Speaker 1: Welcome to Bill and Juliana the Podcast.
Speaker 2: Hey everyone, welcome to the Bill and Juliana Podcast. What
Speaker 2: a week it's been, Hubbell.
Speaker 1: Been amazing lot of press clippings.
Speaker 2: That's a lot of breaking news. Okay, So here's the deal.
Speaker 2: While we were on vacation last week we do my
Speaker 2: phone was blowing up, like suddenly, it just started blowing
Speaker 2: up with emails and texts from my agent, from an
Speaker 2: old publicist so I don't even work with anymore, getting
Speaker 2: requests from People Magazine, Entertainment Weekly in page six, and
Speaker 2: all these other outlets all wanting me to comment on
Speaker 2: something in particular, and I was like, what is going on? Like,
Speaker 2: nothing exciting is happening, is it? Well? Yes, actually, so
Speaker 2: they all wanted me to comment on my ex boyfriend's
Speaker 2: recent podcast appearance. So my ex boyfriend, being an actor
Speaker 2: named Jerry O'Connell, well he's a TV host now followed
Speaker 2: in my footsteps. So we dated back in three two
Speaker 2: thousand and three, and Jerry went on a podcast and
Speaker 2: he said he couldn't recall the exact words he used
Speaker 2: when he broke up with me via an intercom. Okay,
Speaker 2: and did it really happen over an intercom that's to
Speaker 2: be discussed. So he shared his side of the story,
Speaker 2: and I have no problem sharing my side of the
Speaker 2: story and very very open. So first before I do that, though,
Speaker 2: let me say something nice about Jerry. I do love
Speaker 2: that Jerry is an open book, even if his memory
Speaker 2: is a little fuzzy. Okay. And the entire podcast that
Speaker 2: we're doing today is coming from a nice place. It's
Speaker 2: coming from a place of love.
Speaker 3: Okay. Oh, Hi, like.
Speaker 1: Jerry, excuse me, it's always been very nice to me.
Speaker 2: We did invite Jerry to join us, Okay. Our iHeart
Speaker 2: producing team did reach out to him, and Jerry, you
Speaker 2: should know you do have an open invitation to join
Speaker 2: us here on the podcast anytime. He did not take
Speaker 2: us up on the invitation. Unless he's suddenly calling in
Speaker 2: and it's.
Speaker 1: Going to be surprised, it wouldn't surprise me.
Speaker 2: Yes, but listen, at the end of the day, I
Speaker 2: truly believe everything happens for a reason. We are both
Speaker 2: happily married now, we both have great families, and we
Speaker 2: are both exactly where we're meant to be. However, his
Speaker 2: memory is a little fuzzy, and we're going to unfuzz
Speaker 2: it today. So let's start from the very beginning.
Speaker 4: We're going to unfuzz a thank Jerry because he actually
Speaker 4: introduced me and Juliana.
Speaker 2: True story, and I forgot this story.
Speaker 1: So am I allowed to tell this?
Speaker 2: Of course, you are tell whatever you want.
Speaker 1: So I was.
Speaker 4: I just won the Apprentice. It was like the second
Speaker 4: season of The Apprentice. I'd become a judge on the show.
Speaker 4: We were at an event called Upfronts at NBC. It's
Speaker 4: where they introduced the new seasons of all these shows.
Speaker 4: And Donald Trump and I were doing a meet and
Speaker 4: greet at NBC Tower thirty Rock, and this guy came
Speaker 4: up to me and he starts chatting, chatting me up
Speaker 4: and we're talking looking for like twenty minutes, and at
Speaker 4: the end of the conversation, he said, you know, I
Speaker 4: would introduce you to my girlfriend, but I'm afraid the
Speaker 4: two of you would run off together.
Speaker 1: True story.
Speaker 2: Isn't that crazy?
Speaker 1: And then she's like, stop, Jerry, I'm Juliana, nice to
Speaker 1: meet you. We watched the show. Blah blah blah. We
Speaker 1: just know. And that was the first time I met
Speaker 1: Juliana to Pandy.
Speaker 2: Isn't that so crazy? So it's a it is a
Speaker 2: very like little known story. So Jerry and I were
Speaker 2: dating and I was watching The Apprentice with my best
Speaker 2: friend Colette, who is also here. Hi, Coco, Hi, let's introduce.
Speaker 2: I was going to say, so that's the thing. We
Speaker 2: want to have fun today. So of course, like my friends,
Speaker 2: had a lot of questions when this came out, because
Speaker 2: it surprised a lot of people. It surprised me, and
Speaker 2: it surprised all my friends. And Bill, So Kate is
Speaker 2: joining us and a stage.
Speaker 1: She's in the Witness Protection program.
Speaker 2: Last no Kate Anna Stagia from Australia's introduce Shrimp on
Speaker 2: the Barbie Ava who we love Rianna narrated, So we're
Speaker 2: all here and Bill, this all happened so quickly, and
Speaker 2: then all my friends start texting me like everyone's like
Speaker 2: what is going on? Like wait what and what did
Speaker 2: he say? And I don't remember you ever telling that story?
Speaker 2: So I love that, like all of you guys. So
Speaker 2: many nine out of ten people here are very new
Speaker 2: to this story. Well not very new to it, but
Speaker 2: no like a lot of it. Some no, not so
Speaker 2: much of it. But Collette, who I've been friends with
Speaker 2: over twenty years, lived it with me. She was there,
Speaker 2: so like, Bill wasn't even there for this, because you know,
Speaker 2: when Jerry and I were dating, Bill wasn't my husband,
Speaker 2: thank god died, and so Coco with the communities that
Speaker 2: would be yes, but not our family. So Coco was
Speaker 2: there for the whole thing. And so she's going to
Speaker 2: have a very interesting perspective on all of it.
Speaker 1: Collat has a memory like a steel trip she does.
Speaker 1: It's incredible.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so buckle up, buckle up, baby. But I just
Speaker 2: going back to your Apprentice stories. So, yeah, I was
Speaker 2: watching The Apprentice like most people. It was a huge
Speaker 2: show with Collette. Every week we were watching it. I
Speaker 2: was working on E News. I was just promoted to
Speaker 2: anchor of E News, and I was dating Jerry, and
Speaker 2: we were watching The Apprentice, and I was obsessed with
Speaker 2: the show. And I was rooting for Bill to win
Speaker 2: the show just because he was like a nice guy
Speaker 2: and I just liked him. I mean, yeah, I kind
Speaker 2: of know and just well, ooh okay, yeah, I guess
Speaker 2: I'm the bad one.
Speaker 5: Jerry.
Speaker 2: I guess I'm the bad one. I kind of knew.
Speaker 2: I loved Bill, so I literally was watching I loved
Speaker 2: watching Bill when she.
Speaker 1: Said, Jerry was fire.
Speaker 2: Jerry, Well, I was. You know what though? This was
Speaker 2: so when Apprentice was on, I think that Jerry and
Speaker 2: I were already kind of on the rocks a little bit.
Speaker 2: And so we were in New York and then all
Speaker 2: of a sudden worded an NBC party and his Bill said,
Speaker 2: Bill walked in, and I go, Jerry the Apprentice. No, no,
Speaker 2: Jerry looked at me and he goes, you're gonna die.
Speaker 2: I go what he goes, the apprentice just walked in.
Speaker 2: I go, what I go? Do not embarrass me, whatever
Speaker 2: you do, because he's like very like funny, embarrassing, And
Speaker 2: I was like, don't embarrass me, don't introduce me, Tom,
Speaker 2: don't embarrass me. Like, if you're gonna introduce me, be cool,
Speaker 2: like just be normal. And then when Bill came over,
Speaker 2: oh I.
Speaker 1: Didn't come over. Sorry, Sorry, we're waiting in an hour
Speaker 1: long line. Just be clear. Okay, it was kind of
Speaker 1: a big deal.
Speaker 2: Back, you're right, yes. So when he finally, like when
Speaker 2: we were finally near Bill, I said, okay, Jerry introduced me,
Speaker 2: but like, be cool. And then Jerry just turns his
Speaker 2: back to me and starts talking to Bill for like
Speaker 2: twenty minutes and like ignore it, you know, like like
Speaker 2: he forgot about me, and these two were having like
Speaker 2: a total like bro moment, blah blah blah, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: so then finally I go, I start coughing, and Jerry
Speaker 2: turns around. He looks at me. He looks at Bill,
Speaker 2: and he says, oh, I'm sorry. I'd introduce you to
Speaker 2: my girlfriend, but the two of you would run off together.
Speaker 2: That's what he said.
Speaker 1: Isn't that the story just told? Sorry?
Speaker 2: And then because it's such a good story, and then
Speaker 2: Bill goes, Bill like almost spit out his wine. Bill's like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, like like you know, that's odd for
Speaker 2: someone to say, and I go, you're so embarrassing, Jerry.
Speaker 2: I go, no, the reason he said that, Bill is
Speaker 2: because I'm a big fan and I watch it and
Speaker 2: it's just really nice to meet you. And then that
Speaker 2: was it. And then I met Bill a lot later
Speaker 2: after Jerry and I broke up, or I should say
Speaker 2: Jerry broke up with me. So that's where we are
Speaker 2: with that story. But anyway, so when this whole thing
Speaker 2: kind of came up, it was like so weird because
Speaker 2: I had to like go back and relive it. And
Speaker 2: I'm going to be very honest with you, guys. I've
Speaker 2: only seen.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 2: I was looking for the phone. I sent you the
Speaker 2: clip of him on the podcast watched Kelly, I love Kelly.
Speaker 2: I haven't even watched it, of course, Oh have you
Speaker 2: guys watched it? Can we can? We just listen to
Speaker 2: the no?
Speaker 7: What the I want to ask you about what your
Speaker 7: ex wrote about you?
Speaker 5: And so I dated a young lady whose initials are Juliana.
Speaker 1: Pretty funny.
Speaker 3: I gotta say we had a lot of fun together.
Speaker 7: Did she run by you?
Speaker 3: No? But but we did break up on We broke
Speaker 3: up poorly. It was poorly.
Speaker 5: Now listen in Juliana ran six defense of this memoir
Speaker 5: or whatever.
Speaker 3: I was a pretty terrible boyfriend. I was his hand up.
Speaker 3: I was not a good says that you cheated on her.
Speaker 5: Okay, I was expecting more of a laugh when I
Speaker 5: said I was a terrible boyfriend.
Speaker 3: You said it cheated on her? And I heard audible
Speaker 3: guests from here.
Speaker 5: Now I wish Gelman was here saying let's go to commercial.
Speaker 3: Yeah, wrap it up, wrap it up.
Speaker 7: Jerry Hallowell.
Speaker 5: Okay, that is those who don't know that is Gingers,
Speaker 5: beautiful young lady who I recently saw, who is me remarried,
Speaker 5: has a great family. I was a terrible boyfriend that
Speaker 5: Jerry halliwell too, so I apologize to her. Let me
Speaker 5: take this moment to apologize to Juliana Ransick. I'm not
Speaker 5: kidding for being a terrible boyfriend.
Speaker 6: I was.
Speaker 3: I was the worst. I was the worst. I wasn't
Speaker 3: the worst boyfriend like I didn't like. I was just
Speaker 3: a bad boyfriend.
Speaker 7: When she caught you cheating, you had as much as
Speaker 7: emotion as the customer service representative who tells you you okay,
Speaker 7: your bags missed the flag.
Speaker 5: Okay, shout out to Juliana Ransick.
Speaker 3: That is a great line. Okay, that is a good line.
Speaker 3: That is very uh what do you call it in
Speaker 3: literary terms? Very colorful?
Speaker 5: Yes, Juliana Ransick said I broke up with her through
Speaker 5: an intercom.
Speaker 1: Yes, she said that.
Speaker 5: You said.
Speaker 7: This is very funny, because I don't in my mind,
Speaker 7: I cannot picture you saying this over an intercom or
Speaker 7: otherwise I'm going to do so yeah in quotes. Nope, sorry, homegirl,
Speaker 7: things change, but you take care.
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm sweating now.
Speaker 3: This is like a trial. By the way, I feel
Speaker 3: like like a like a transcript that's just read to
Speaker 3: me in a court room.
Speaker 1: You know, here's the deal, and I will I've never so.
Speaker 5: Juliana Ransay claimed I broke up with her through an
Speaker 5: intercom in my building. I broke up with her through
Speaker 5: an intercom because Juliana Ransick came to my condominium.
Speaker 1: Yes, where I had.
Speaker 5: Julian Radsick came to my condominium and hit the intercom.
Speaker 5: I was not expecting Juliana Rasick to come to said condominium.
Speaker 8: Did you have come?
Speaker 6: Which I?
Speaker 3: Which? I? Which was the one was inside of my condominium? First?
Speaker 3: That someone was inside?
Speaker 2: Did not know there was someone inside, and I did
Speaker 2: not around.
Speaker 3: Sick wanted an entry into my condominium. Thank goodness, my
Speaker 3: boyfriend gate security. I mean, I paid a pretty heffy homeowner.
Speaker 3: Are these things cameras and everything? Yeah, it doesn't.
Speaker 5: Sound like something I would say, But again, I mean,
Speaker 5: if I was writing.
Speaker 3: A memoir, it made for a good quote.
Speaker 5: So you know what, I'm going to applaud Juliana for
Speaker 5: using colorful dialogue and everything and.
Speaker 3: Uh and not forgot your exes.
Speaker 4: We go around, especially with the younger generation, because and
Speaker 4: maybe they could ask some questions.
Speaker 1: So he wants to dig in.
Speaker 8: Jerry O'Connor. You know, how did you like Google that?
Speaker 3: Just now.
Speaker 1: O'Connell not O'Connor.
Speaker 2: And I still don't know who he is.
Speaker 1: He was in stand By Me. He was the.
Speaker 4: Okay, stand By Me was a classic movie back when
Speaker 4: we were kids, Kangaroo.
Speaker 2: Jack as I call it, kangaroo Jerry.
Speaker 4: So he was an actor and now he is in
Speaker 4: one of the chairs on the talk but he's films.
Speaker 4: Stand By Me was a classic. It was It was
Speaker 4: an epic movie. It was very successful commercially.
Speaker 2: Wait, do you know what I just read though? That
Speaker 2: I totally forgot he was in Jerry Maguire was Jerymire.
Speaker 4: He played the quarterback that cheated on the agent. He
Speaker 4: had an agent and then he decided to sign a
Speaker 4: deal with another agent when he was under.
Speaker 1: Fire. Tom Crue.
Speaker 4: You've never seen Jerry Maguire with Tom Cruise. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 4: it's a great movie about football.
Speaker 3: You complete me.
Speaker 2: Oh that's a great line.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch it tonight.
Speaker 2: He didn't say that line, but that was a great
Speaker 2: line from the movie, right. That was.
Speaker 1: A great life from the movie.
Speaker 4: Wait, did I have a pretty well no, now you're
Speaker 4: like a valley girl, I swear to god.
Speaker 2: God, Wait a second, Okay, so collect, let's go to
Speaker 2: collect Firsteconcus Collette was there during the whole thing. So,
Speaker 2: since we're fresh off of this clip, collect, you and
Speaker 2: I were probably together or we're on the phone when
Speaker 2: I went over to his house, because what happened was
Speaker 2: we were at that Maxim Park.
Speaker 1: So, okay, Max, do you want me to give you.
Speaker 2: Like the footnote version real quick of the.
Speaker 6: We should definitely give the cliff note.
Speaker 2: Or the cliff Notes version how you met Jerry? Oh
Speaker 2: my god. Okay, so we'll go back. Okay. So I
Speaker 2: was working at E and I had a weekend off
Speaker 2: because I was working all the time, and I had
Speaker 2: just been there like a couple of years at E
Speaker 2: and so I just been or maybe a few years
Speaker 2: I was and I became the anchor, so I was
Speaker 2: always really busy. But that weekend, I had the weekend off,
Speaker 2: and it was the super Bowl in San Diego, and
Speaker 2: I was supposed to go with friends, but then I'd
Speaker 2: canceled because I was like, no, I'm sure I have
Speaker 2: to work. Then I didn't have to work. So I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get in my car and drive to San
Speaker 2: Diego and like see some friends there. So I go there,
Speaker 2: I'm at the w Hotel. I'm walking in to meet
Speaker 2: friends or like find where that party was. I was
Speaker 2: like a little confused trying to find this party, and
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, I hear a male voice say, oh,
Speaker 2: let me pull up the book. Yeah. I remembered the libe,
Speaker 2: but it was something like along the lines of, oh
Speaker 2: my gosh, like an angel has just walked in. I know,
Speaker 2: it's good, right Bill, And I go. I literally like
Speaker 2: looked around because there were so many celebrities that weekend,
Speaker 2: and so I'm like looking around. I'm like, who's that
Speaker 2: guy talking to? Like is there some actress by me?
Speaker 2: And I go and I literally look around left and
Speaker 2: right like a movie and I go and he goes,
Speaker 2: you, you're like an angel who just walked in? And I
Speaker 2: go me, and he goes yeah. And I recognized him
Speaker 2: immediately that he was this actor Jerry O'Connell, and I
Speaker 2: was like, oh, hi, you know, and he walks up
Speaker 2: to me, and literally that was it. Do you even
Speaker 2: know the story? Villain?
Speaker 1: I don't care to.
Speaker 2: Look over.
Speaker 1: I'm good, all right. No, I don't know what happened.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to tell everything.
Speaker 2: But bottom line is we like literally, I kid you,
Speaker 2: not like I'm not going to get into all the
Speaker 2: details because my husbands sitting here. But like when I
Speaker 2: tell you, for the next year and a half, except
Speaker 2: for the one breakup with Spice, Ginger Spice, we were
Speaker 2: together twenty four to seven, like every day, okay, every night,
Speaker 2: so sorry, honey, No, sorry, okay, every day, every day?
Speaker 2: Sorry Phil, We were together every well. I mean that's
Speaker 2: what you do when you have, like when you're in.
Speaker 1: A real relationship. I understand.
Speaker 2: The reason I'm saying this is because I think you
Speaker 2: could listen to his interview and think that maybe this
Speaker 2: was like just like a kind of like easy relationship.
Speaker 2: Oh I was dating a bunch of girls or something.
Speaker 2: It's like, no, it was a real relationship. You know.
Speaker 2: Everyone knew it, everyone at e everyone in Hollywood. We
Speaker 2: were photographed all the time on red carpets at a
Speaker 2: million events. And so I think that like all these
Speaker 2: years later, he's like downplaying it what the relationship was.
Speaker 2: And so the only reason I bring it up is
Speaker 2: because you know, I do remember, and we were together
Speaker 2: and then when he went to London to shoot a movie,
Speaker 2: we were literally like, you know, like everything was perfect,
Speaker 2: thing was totally fine. He goes to shoot a movie
Speaker 2: starring his co star is going to be Jerry halliwell,
Speaker 2: Spice Girl, and literally he's like so sad that I'm
Speaker 2: leaving London to go back to LA to work. And
Speaker 2: about a week later, I'm walking Bill, You're gonna die.
Speaker 2: A week later, I'm walking through the E newsroom over there.
Speaker 2: He's not even listening. Are you even listening to any
Speaker 2: of this? You want to go? Okay?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 1: So a week later, yeah, we're on air.
Speaker 2: So a week later, okay, Jerry goes to shoot a
Speaker 2: movie in London. I go back to work in LA
Speaker 2: like I was with him in London, getting him ready
Speaker 2: to shoot this movie whatever. I go back to LA
Speaker 2: and a week later, You're gonna die, Bill, getting ready
Speaker 2: to shoot what.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about this.
Speaker 2: So a week later, I'm walking through the newsroom and
Speaker 2: this guy comes up to me who actually worked for
Speaker 2: US Weekly at the time, and he was doing a
Speaker 2: segment for E and he goes hey, and he's like
Speaker 2: a big like gossipy and it was Kene Bigger. He's
Speaker 2: like a gossip columnist. And he comes up to me
Speaker 2: and he goes, hey, is everything okay with you and Jerry?
Speaker 2: And I don't know what. And I just immediately knows, like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, something is wrong here, Like I have
Speaker 2: good instincts like that. I was like, why is he
Speaker 2: asking it like that?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: So to save face, I thought quickly on my feet
Speaker 2: and I go, oh, he's in London shooting a movie.
Speaker 2: And he goes, are you guys still dating? Like why
Speaker 2: would he ask me that? We were literally like connected
Speaker 2: at the heap forever? And I go, I don't know.
Speaker 2: We're figuring things out. He goes, oh, phew, So you
Speaker 2: are you trying to get a quote from you? No?
Speaker 2: He goes, look at this, okay, and he pulls out
Speaker 2: pictures of Jerry O'Connell and Jerry halliwell, walking out of
Speaker 2: a restaurant holding hands.
Speaker 8: But was he trying to get a quote for you
Speaker 8: for no?
Speaker 2: I think he was so shocked when he saw the pictures. First,
Speaker 2: they hadn't come out yet, and when he saw the pictures,
Speaker 2: he was so shocked that he kind of came up
Speaker 2: to me and approached me like, oh, like casually, are
Speaker 2: you guys still dating instead of like did you see
Speaker 2: these pictures? Yeah, because of course we're still dating, like
Speaker 2: there's no reason we're not dating. And he was like
Speaker 2: saying it kind of like, I think, softly, like approaching me,
Speaker 2: almost thinking like there's no way he would be out
Speaker 2: in public with the girl if they were like still dating.
Speaker 2: And it was so shocking. How long was it?
Speaker 1: How long was it since you left London getting ready?
Speaker 1: And then the photograph?
Speaker 9: Probably a week ish holding hands quick?
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe maybe a week to two weeks. I don't
Speaker 2: know the exact date. Meredith Bill, what's going on over there?
Speaker 2: They're holding hands now? But I don't know the exact date,
Speaker 2: but it was within two weeks, I'd say, around a
Speaker 2: week or two. And so he shows me the pictures
Speaker 2: and I look at them and I go, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: and he walks away and I went into the I
Speaker 2: walked down the hall and I was literally, you guys,
Speaker 2: when I tell you, I it was like the most
Speaker 2: shocking moment of my life so far. And I walked
Speaker 2: into the voiceover booth, which is like a little insulated booth,
Speaker 2: and I just like fell to the ground crying hysterically
Speaker 2: like it was awful. Sorry, Bill, but I have to
Speaker 2: be honest, Like I'm just being honest because I think
Speaker 2: you know that's that's the truth, Bill. And it was
Speaker 2: so upsetting and it was so devastating, and so Collette.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna bring Collette in here, because that was the
Speaker 2: first big Jerry chakra was in London, right, Goko, Yeah.
Speaker 6: It was that. And I I mean for me personally,
Speaker 6: you know, because I love you so much in your
Speaker 6: my family and my sister. I got a little offended
Speaker 6: when he inferred that the relationship wasn't serious because I
Speaker 6: lived the whole relationship with you guys. You know, I
Speaker 6: was at dinner with you guys every night. We were
Speaker 6: doing karaoke, we were doing they were doing karaoke, singing
Speaker 6: endless love to each other till five in the morning,
Speaker 6: like literally every night. I would be he.
Speaker 2: Like the guys still.
Speaker 6: Three years, Jerry, I really genuinely kidding me. Look at
Speaker 6: You're like her life, your everything, and you.
Speaker 1: Know this is the replaced me.
Speaker 6: But for him to kind of imply that it wasn't serious,
Speaker 6: I mean he called me when they got when he
Speaker 6: came back and he was crying. He's like, cocoa, please
Speaker 6: tell her to take me back, Please tell her to
Speaker 6: take I mean he was he was in love with
Speaker 6: you after There's no two ways about it.
Speaker 2: So she took him, which is she took him so
Speaker 2: when when it was so devastating, So I would see
Speaker 2: pictures of them, like coming out of in and out
Speaker 2: of her house. I mean they were like a public
Speaker 2: couple in London.
Speaker 8: Did you talk to him after the pictures the first
Speaker 8: pictures came out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did, of course immediately, and I was like,
Speaker 2: are you kidding me right now? And he just you guys.
Speaker 2: I went from literally a year of like like ten
Speaker 2: like a plus plus plus plus ten ten ten, like
Speaker 2: not one little not one no no, like a year
Speaker 2: no no no, sorry, not like no. What I mean
Speaker 2: is okay, let me rephrase one little red flag, thank you.
Speaker 3: It a year.
Speaker 2: A year of literally, as Pete, literally not one red flag, literally,
Speaker 2: not one red flag. Every single pursue Metis was like
Speaker 2: he is so like in love with you, obsessed with you,
Speaker 2: like you know, it was like crazy. And then it
Speaker 2: went from all that to like all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: I call him and I'm so in shock, and he's like,
Speaker 2: and this is before AI, I would have thought they
Speaker 2: were fake I'm not kidding, seriously, would have thought they
Speaker 2: were fake pictures. And I was so in chuck, and
Speaker 2: he was like, yeah, I'm sorry, just yeah, sorry, one thing.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what to tell you, Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I screwed up. Like basically, have a nice life. Yeah,
Speaker 2: can you freaking believe that? He basically was just like,
Speaker 2: that's it, And so I was just left to like
Speaker 2: pick up the pieces of a year relationship that was
Speaker 2: like literally a perfect relationship for a year, Like there's
Speaker 2: no signs at all. Did you guys say, did you
Speaker 2: guys say I love you?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 2: My god? Long, I mean, yes, great question.
Speaker 1: Let's get to the so a.
Speaker 4: There's an old saying, you know, screw me once, shame
Speaker 4: on you screw me twice, no pun intended, shame on me.
Speaker 1: Why did you take him back?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 2: He that was just once, right, I mean, so, I mean, wait,
Speaker 2: you met the second time. I thought you had the
Speaker 2: second time?
Speaker 1: No, Bill, no, no, no.
Speaker 2: I thought you meant the second time.
Speaker 6: Like the first time though. He was so in love
Speaker 6: with her though this is the thing that It was
Speaker 6: like incomprehensible for the people around her at the time,
Speaker 6: like me, I was like, okay, well maybe you should
Speaker 6: give him another chance, forgive him, to forgive him.
Speaker 1: She took him back more than once.
Speaker 2: No, so just that time, it only happened once, when
Speaker 2: this happened in London. Then all of a sudden, so
Speaker 2: they're hot and heavy. It's totally over between he and I.
Speaker 2: We don't haven't spoken at all, Like it's completely over.
Speaker 2: He's moved on and I have to pick up the
Speaker 2: pieces while he's having this great life like with his
Speaker 2: new girlfriend after like just out of nowhere breaking up
Speaker 2: with me. So then one night I come home from
Speaker 2: work and Bill, you remember, I lived on in a
Speaker 2: building on Wilshire Boulevard in Westwood and Klett live next
Speaker 2: door to me in the building next door to me,
Speaker 2: And I come home, just like any night, I go
Speaker 2: to the vallet, I walk into the building and there's
Speaker 2: Jerry's standing in the lobby and he looks at me
Speaker 2: and I look. I go like I was so in shock.
Speaker 2: I didn't expect him to be standing there like we
Speaker 2: were done. He had a new girlfriend, in a new life.
Speaker 2: They're probably gonna get married, And I go, what are
Speaker 2: you doing here? And he's like I got to talk
Speaker 2: to you, And I go, get out of my way
Speaker 2: right now. So I go around him and I'm trying
Speaker 2: to get in the elevator and he's like right next
Speaker 2: to me in the elevator. He gets in the elevator
Speaker 2: with me. I'm like, I want nothing to do with you.
Speaker 2: You are the worst, Like I can't believe what. I
Speaker 2: can't believe you did.
Speaker 1: This me is this is going to end with like
Speaker 1: some rebound activity.
Speaker 3: I'm going to.
Speaker 1: Passionate. I just just.
Speaker 2: Give I don't no, so okay. So then he basically
Speaker 2: all I'm getting at is that night he basically I
Speaker 2: was so upset and he basically I was like, are
Speaker 2: you kidding me right now? Like what you did to me?
Speaker 2: What are you even doing here? And he's like, I
Speaker 2: am so sorry. I made the biggest mistake of my
Speaker 2: entire life. I don't know what I was thinking. Please
Speaker 2: take me back. I love you, loved my life, all
Speaker 2: the stuff they say. And I took him back because
Speaker 2: to Kleet's point two, like it went from so hot
Speaker 2: to so cold in one second that it's like I
Speaker 2: actually believed him, like, yes, it was a terrible mistake,
Speaker 2: like he would never do that. He made a mistake,
Speaker 2: He'll never do it again. And that's what I believed.
Speaker 2: And then there we were again out and about paparazzi, photographers,
Speaker 2: red carpets, the whole thing. And then this was like
Speaker 2: what four or five months later, and I have it all.
Speaker 2: I mean you could look up all the dates of
Speaker 2: all these parties, like and when he was on set.
Speaker 2: And then Maxim magazine at the time was this like magazine. Okay,
Speaker 2: that would like yeah, it was like all these you know,
Speaker 2: girls in the magazine whatever. And Maxim magazine had something
Speaker 2: called the Hot one hundred List and they called me
Speaker 2: and they're like, you're on the Hot one hundred list,
Speaker 2: which was very sweet, and they have a party every
Speaker 2: year in Las Vegas for this Hot one hundred list.
Speaker 2: So Jerry and I go to the party what boyfriend
Speaker 2: and girlfriends do, and we are in reviewed on the
Speaker 2: red carpet by everyone, including E and all the footage
Speaker 2: is there of us being interviewed and he's so complimentary
Speaker 2: and he's like so proud of her. I mean, I
Speaker 2: love you know, she's hot. Okay, Yes, I'm so proud
Speaker 2: of her for being hot.
Speaker 1: Don't bring your boyfriend who's cheated on you to a maximum.
Speaker 4: Hun Yeah, it's like throw into a lion's day.
Speaker 2: In the world.
Speaker 1: He was in the in the lion pit.
Speaker 2: And so we move on. And then when I was
Speaker 2: in the we were both in the party and then
Speaker 2: I got kind of pulled away to do press and
Speaker 2: you know some stuff you do when you're on the
Speaker 2: maxim line one hundred was like, like you pour like
Speaker 2: wine on the No, I'm kidding you. What's that thing?
Speaker 8: Champagne?
Speaker 1: Champagne.
Speaker 2: Sorry, Like I don't know, I'm probably making that up.
Speaker 2: I don't think I did a champagne tower, but like
Speaker 2: that's kind of what you would imagine. You'd get pulled, Hey,
Speaker 2: thank you doing photo ops and then you guys are
Speaker 2: going to die, like literally, have a great weekend in Vegas,
Speaker 2: go back home to La We go back home to
Speaker 2: La like we probably drove or flew. He and I
Speaker 2: and then the next thing I know, that week, he's
Speaker 2: acting really weird and I'm like, what is going on?
Speaker 2: So he tells me at the end of the week,
Speaker 2: I have to go to Vegas to go to some
Speaker 2: shoot like I have a shoot that I'm going to.
Speaker 2: I don't even know what it is about, but I
Speaker 2: was like, are you filming something?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 2: And then I kept trying to call him to see
Speaker 2: when he was going to get back from Vegas. I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm his girlfriend, like when you're getting back from Vegas?
Speaker 2: Like are we going to dinner next week? Like what
Speaker 2: are we doing? Like I see you every day and
Speaker 2: cut to can't get in touch with them? And then
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, this is what happened exactly. I
Speaker 2: think I texted him. I said, Jerry, I'm just worried
Speaker 2: about you, like I haven't heard from you in a
Speaker 2: few days.
Speaker 1: You're to make a wellness check on him?
Speaker 2: Thank you?
Speaker 8: Can I have like an insight into the technology at
Speaker 8: this time? Are you like T nine texting?
Speaker 1: It's the the thing that you flip up the T
Speaker 1: mobile sidecarch psychic?
Speaker 8: What color was it?
Speaker 2: I think mine was pink?
Speaker 1: And no idea what that it was?
Speaker 2: Not dazzled. I had a pink one. I had a
Speaker 2: pink psychic and I think he had like a razor
Speaker 2: a motorole eraser.
Speaker 6: Okay, or he had a psychic read message or oh god, no.
Speaker 1: This is like two thousand.
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, So we were either so we were calling, calling, calling,
Speaker 9: and then texting, and so I texted and so this
Speaker 9: is what he was not responding at all.
Speaker 2: And finally what made him respond is I said, I said, hey,
Speaker 2: I can't find you in Vegas. Everyone's looking for you.
Speaker 2: Can you just let me know where you are. I'm
Speaker 2: worried about you. No message, no response. And then finally
Speaker 2: I said, Jerry, I'm gonna like, I'm gonna call the police,
Speaker 2: like I'm really worried about you. Where he writes back,
Speaker 2: do not call the police. He goes, I just got
Speaker 2: back to La. I'm at my condominium. I'm at my condominium,
Speaker 2: which he loves to say, and he goes, I'm fine,
Speaker 2: I'm fine. So I was like, oh my god, okay,
Speaker 2: So I write, I'm coming over like I haven't seen
Speaker 2: you in like five days. What's going on? So I
Speaker 2: go over there, and that's where this whole thing happened.
Speaker 2: So I go to the intercom and I ring the
Speaker 2: bell and normally it's like the second I ring it,
Speaker 2: the door opens, the buzzer goes, and I go upstairs. Well,
Speaker 2: I ring it, I ring it, I ring it and
Speaker 2: I see his lights on and I'm like and he's
Speaker 2: like hello, I'm like, hey, open the door. He's like
Speaker 2: what's up. I'm like what's up. I'm like, uh, your
Speaker 2: girlfriend's here. Open the door, like what's going on? I'm
Speaker 2: and see you and he's like oh. And he comes
Speaker 2: out to the balcony and that's where he really said it,
Speaker 2: kind of said it on the balcony and I go, Jerry,
Speaker 2: what is going on? He goes hey, and I go hey,
Speaker 2: open the door, like what is going on? I was
Speaker 2: just so shocked, like I'm your girlfriend. And so finally
Speaker 2: we kind of go back and forth. I don't remember
Speaker 2: every detail, but I mean he was very like dismissed,
Speaker 2: like just like whatever, and he's like, I'm so and
Speaker 2: he goes and he basically said he's like, sorry, homegirl,
Speaker 2: it's over.
Speaker 1: It changes take care.
Speaker 8: And he used to call you home.
Speaker 2: He did, he did. And so it's also start.
Speaker 6: Like he knew this girl was like now that I
Speaker 6: was hearing it, and was like trying to act so
Speaker 6: cool and like all this girl downsays doesn't mean anything
Speaker 6: to me, Like you know.
Speaker 2: Right, well, what's so crazy is until he told his
Speaker 2: story on that podcast I had. I had no even
Speaker 2: for a second, didn't think there was someone in his
Speaker 2: apartment ever. I really just thought that he was on
Speaker 2: the balcony breaking up with me, like it's over, and
Speaker 2: I knew, like, obviously he's met someone, something's going on.
Speaker 2: But I didn't think for a second until he said
Speaker 2: that on the podcast last week that I was like,
Speaker 2: wait a second, there was someone in there.
Speaker 1: I didn't even know.
Speaker 2: You didn't know that there was someone in there. I
Speaker 2: did not know that I promised was.
Speaker 6: Someone there.
Speaker 2: Wait, wal Coco, Wait Coco said.
Speaker 6: I said, that was God's saving you because if you
Speaker 6: had known someone was in there, deep with ropes climbing
Speaker 6: the building literally.
Speaker 2: Been so he found my way in there.
Speaker 8: Did you just walk away after he broke up with you?
Speaker 2: Or kind of what I mean? Can I be honest,
Speaker 2: Like it was again like so shocking. I think like
Speaker 2: I was going back to like you know, when I
Speaker 2: heard when I saw the pictures of him with Jerry Hallowell,
Speaker 2: and it just was that like sinking feeling again like
Speaker 2: oh my God, like it's over again. And it was
Speaker 2: just so shocking because I put all my faith back
Speaker 2: into him and took him back and everything was amazing,
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, there he was again,
Speaker 2: just like cold as ice, and he was like, it's over,
Speaker 2: And I was like what.
Speaker 4: In his defense, people grow you grow up in five days. No,
Speaker 4: but I'm saying, twenty two years later, you got to
Speaker 4: you know, wow, you have some grace?
Speaker 1: Yeah, no question was my balcony.
Speaker 2: Was the balcony like a first floor balcony or like
Speaker 2: a tenth floor second floor?
Speaker 6: Okay?
Speaker 1: He was right there, so you couldn't scale the wall.
Speaker 2: The whole thing was just very shocking, and so he
Speaker 2: broke up with me. And why I did not scale
Speaker 2: the wall or try to do something is a I
Speaker 2: didn't know there was anyone in there until he just
Speaker 2: admitted that last week.
Speaker 1: But also, come on, you had to have some suspicion, Phil.
Speaker 2: I promised you. I did not know that. That's how much.
Speaker 2: Can I be honest? That's how perfect things were?
Speaker 3: Really?
Speaker 1: I'm out of here?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, can I be honest you guys?
Speaker 2: I promised you, Like I thought. He was literally standing
Speaker 2: on the balcony looking at me, and he had changed,
Speaker 2: obviously changes my broke out up. He didn't want to
Speaker 2: see me in person. He didn't want to see me
Speaker 2: in person because I mean, he didn't want to come
Speaker 2: face to face like downstairs, because he thought maybe I'll
Speaker 2: be like I want to kill him, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, like like I want to like punch him,
Speaker 2: or I don't know. He didn't I obviously he wasn't
Speaker 2: didn't have enough courage to come down and see me
Speaker 2: face to face, like a foot away, and instead did
Speaker 2: it from a balcony. He broke up with me from
Speaker 2: a balcony, and I honestly thought it was because he
Speaker 2: was just like over it done and he was just
Speaker 2: like bye, and I was like and it was so
Speaker 2: it was a million things right. It was devastating, heartbreaking, humiliating,
Speaker 2: It was traumatizing. It truly was, and I just could
Speaker 2: not believe what I was hearing.
Speaker 1: Again, are you tearing up?
Speaker 2: No, I'm not tearing I'm not tearing up. But I
Speaker 2: got in my car and it was and he literally, like,
Speaker 2: to be honest, I think he actually turned around and
Speaker 2: went back inside and closed the door. Oh wow, yeah,
Speaker 2: And so what am I going to do? And so
Speaker 2: I got in my car, Wait, Collete, what am I missing?
Speaker 2: Am I missing something with you? Then I called you right,
Speaker 2: Collette when I got my gun.
Speaker 6: And then we went over to your condo and like,
Speaker 6: I mean, you were devastated. He he broke your heart,
Speaker 6: you know. And I was devastated. I mean I was
Speaker 6: enraged all the things because I trusted him too, and
Speaker 6: I was like get back together within my head, you know.
Speaker 2: So I then I went on E News to anchor
Speaker 2: and I had a T shirt that said you were
Speaker 2: never my boyfriend.
Speaker 1: Do you remember that?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 8: No, I just remember those like T shirts.
Speaker 2: Do you remember those T shirts?
Speaker 8: It wasn't like Drew Barrymore wearing one one time.
Speaker 2: I love it. Yeah, they were like popular back in
Speaker 2: the early two thousands, and so I said you were
Speaker 2: never my boyfriend. And then I think he might have
Speaker 2: like called E and he didn't love that T shirt.
Speaker 6: I remember, Yeah, he called He was so mad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, And so you know, the whole thing was
Speaker 2: just crazy. Listen, at the end of the day, you know,
Speaker 2: here we are twenty two years later, and obviously we
Speaker 2: both moved on. We can speak about.
Speaker 7: Sure.
Speaker 2: Okay, we're literally at the forty minute mark, so we
Speaker 2: have to wrap things up. So we are gonna do
Speaker 2: a part two. We're gonna have to do a part two,
Speaker 2: so we're gonna do Part two tomorrow. We're literally just
Speaker 2: coming up with this right now, so okay, we're gonna
Speaker 2: say goodbye right now. Everyone, Tune in tomorrow, Bill and
Speaker 2: Juliana the podcast for Part two, where I'm gonna take
Speaker 2: specific questions, burning questions that people have, So we'll see
Speaker 2: you tomorrow