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Speaker 1: Final Hour on this Thursday, Dan and the Danna's Dan
Speaker 1: Patrick Show. Glad to have you on board. We have
Speaker 1: covered a lot of ground, some of its sports related.
Speaker 1: I think Fritzie saying that Springsteen was overrated. And we
Speaker 1: also talked about the NFL the seventeen games schedule regular season,
Speaker 1: adding a couple of wildcard teams to the playoffs. And
Speaker 1: what happens in these kind of negotiations is it comes
Speaker 1: down to one or two items. Now, you can agree
Speaker 1: on a lot of things, but it's you see one
Speaker 1: or two things that will hold up a deal. And
Speaker 1: in this situation, I think that the players were looking
Speaker 1: for a little more protection healthwise, getting vested at after
Speaker 1: three years, which means you could get your benefits. And
Speaker 1: it used to be four years, a little more than
Speaker 1: four years. Now you get it three years where you're
Speaker 1: vested with health benefits and also the amount of money
Speaker 1: that's going to be made. It's a ten year deal
Speaker 1: with the owners that they're on the verge of signing
Speaker 1: agreeing to. And I was told this morning that ten
Speaker 1: years and the percentage one and a half percent going
Speaker 1: up with revenue is going to be worth about five
Speaker 1: billion dollars to the players. You got a seventeen game schedule.
Speaker 1: Because of the seventeen games, I was told you have
Speaker 1: to have two more playoff teams because you have to
Speaker 1: create interest in those final couple of weeks during the
Speaker 1: regular season. So just some of the things. You know,
Speaker 1: the NFL floating out this playoff expansion plan, it felt
Speaker 1: like it escalated quickly, but this has been in the
Speaker 1: works for a long time. I go back to what
Speaker 1: I told you around Thanksgiving. Prior to Thanksgiving, a source
Speaker 1: told me we have to get this done by Thanksgiving,
Speaker 1: and then the same source said, look the owners. There
Speaker 1: are owners who feel like we are headed for a recession.
Speaker 1: They want to get this done before the new year.
Speaker 1: Here we are in February, and it looks like they're
Speaker 1: inching closer to getting this deal done. And I think
Speaker 1: the players feel like this is a win for them
Speaker 1: as well. Normally in these negotiations it feels like there's
Speaker 1: a winner and a loser. I think the players are
Speaker 1: going to come away with this thinking that they held
Speaker 1: their ground and they did quite well against the NFL. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Point saw a lot of people debating this morning on
Speaker 1: if there's a player vote, would it be seventeen or
Speaker 1: sixteen games? Stay with what it is. And a lot
Speaker 1: of the athletes we have on on a show are stars,
Speaker 1: Like we have Drew Brees on the show, and he
Speaker 1: doesn't want a seventeenth game because he's got fifty million
Speaker 1: in the bank. But don't you think all the yea
Speaker 1: the second tier guys, third tier guys, because you play
Speaker 1: four years in the NFL, you get four extra game checks.
Speaker 1: That's a big deal if you're a backup linebacker. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would. I don't know what the vote's going to be.
Speaker 1: And even talking to his source this morning and he said,
Speaker 1: you know, this isn't going to be a slam dunk
Speaker 1: with the players, Like not everybody's going to agree to this.
Speaker 1: And if I'm a star player, if I'm Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 1: or Deshaun Watson, one of these younger quarterbacks here, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be thrilled about playing a seventeenth game because your
Speaker 1: goal is to try to stay healthy for the playoffs,
Speaker 1: and it's hard to do that for any quarterback, even
Speaker 1: with the protection rules that we have in place here.
Speaker 1: A younger quarterback, I don't want to have a seventeenth game.
Speaker 1: Certainly if I'm Deshaun Watson, you know I'm going to
Speaker 1: have a hard time staying healthy for sixteen game schedule.
Speaker 1: Now I'm going to add one more. Now? Is there
Speaker 1: going to be load management here? Plus you the fans,
Speaker 1: do you know what you're getting when you go to
Speaker 1: those games? Week fifteen weeks sixteen, week seventeen. Are we
Speaker 1: going to have a team with a losing record make
Speaker 1: the playoffs? And I'm gonna it's inevitable. We had that
Speaker 1: a few years ago with Seattle with a losing record.
Speaker 1: Are we going to have an eight and nine team
Speaker 1: in the playoffs? It sounds strange to say that, but
Speaker 1: it feels like we're headed towards them. Bob Costas will
Speaker 1: join us get his thoughts on the astro situation the
Speaker 1: Red Sox. From what I'm told, that decision is probably
Speaker 1: coming down a week from today or tomorrow. I don't
Speaker 1: know the severity of this, but I don't know if
Speaker 1: we're gonna be looking at the Red Sox now like
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna change our viewpoint on who we
Speaker 1: want punished here. I can't punish the players, can I
Speaker 1: there's nothing in place that says I'm allowed to punish
Speaker 1: the Red Sox players. I like how Dad Martinez, their
Speaker 1: Red Sox great hitter, said Hey, maybe we should be
Speaker 1: easying up on the Astros here. I think he's trying
Speaker 1: to soften that venom that's coming the Red Sox way here. Hey,
Speaker 1: let's come on, let's ease up on the astros here,
Speaker 1: because the Red Sox are the next men up, or
Speaker 1: at least they've already lost their manager here, and I
Speaker 1: wonder what Baseball is going to do to them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the glub, Yeah, I feel like everybody should be a
Speaker 1: little nervous. I've gotta take all these guys bragging about
Speaker 1: their numbers if they had the sign and call. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear from gen Carlos Stanton, like, dude,
Speaker 1: stay healthy, all right, you know you had a great
Speaker 1: year A couple of years ago. You know, everybody is
Speaker 1: going to get eighty home runs in Batch seven hundred, easy,
Speaker 1: all right. Yeah. I'm also didn't totally understand the Union
Speaker 1: chief Tony Clark's statements. He basically said that, you know,
Speaker 1: he basically said that the MLB told us they didn't
Speaker 1: want to pis these players. And I have that for you.
Speaker 1: Here's Tony Clark, the head of the Players Union for
Speaker 1: Major League Baseball. The regis that we're in place prior
Speaker 1: to this conversation didn't afford the league an opportunity to
Speaker 1: discipline players. The conversation that was had leading into the
Speaker 1: investigation with respect to Houston, but just no intent to
Speaker 1: discipline players. The conversation moving forward and as we engage
Speaker 1: players just like we did in this room, will garner
Speaker 1: an appreciation for where the guys are on player discipline
Speaker 1: on this particular issue moving forward, and we'll address it
Speaker 1: a quarter hunting. Yeah, I just did anybody ask Tony Clark, Hey,
Speaker 1: what do you say to all these players who are
Speaker 1: angry at the astros? What are you going to say
Speaker 1: to them? You're the head of the players Association, what
Speaker 1: are you going to say to these But Mike Trout
Speaker 1: is criticizing Lebron James is criticizing you. You're protecting these players. Now,
Speaker 1: I know that's your job, but it feels like the
Speaker 1: Players Association getting off easy here. Yeah, it's almost like
Speaker 1: lawyer on lawyer there only using semantics and with illegal.
Speaker 1: Tony Clark is saying, there was no language in the
Speaker 1: CB collective bargaining before this to have punishment for this
Speaker 1: specific act, so you can't punish this specific act. And
Speaker 1: he's just he's basically reading from a sheet that's some
Speaker 1: lawyer handed him. I'm hopeful that the commissioner is drawing
Speaker 1: up some new language or a rule that might be
Speaker 1: a deterrent here for the players. Yes, but we should
Speaker 1: have already set that precedent where it's like steroid. They
Speaker 1: weren't testing for steroids, so it wasn't illegal, so you
Speaker 1: can't punish those people. Yes, that's already been the common
Speaker 1: in language there. Yeah, two thousand and three when that
Speaker 1: was leaked out of these guys who tested positive, but
Speaker 1: they had no rules in place where they could punish them,
Speaker 1: and then they finally got around to doing them. Mcleven
Speaker 1: new Pole question, Oh, I don't know. I'm just curious
Speaker 1: if you had another. Oh, I thought you were the
Speaker 1: one that had the new poll question. No, did someone
Speaker 1: to tell you add a new pole? Guys, Well, I
Speaker 1: still have a lot of questions about NFL. Seventy percent
Speaker 1: say they do not like the expansion. But what about
Speaker 1: the playoff expansion because everyone in this room is going
Speaker 1: to watch more playoff games. I'll watch it. I don't
Speaker 1: like it. I don't need I should say I don't
Speaker 1: need it. I don't need a seventeenth game. What about
Speaker 1: going farther into February. Well, I would stretch out the
Speaker 1: season absolutely, I'd have the super Bowl at the end.
Speaker 1: I'd have a I haven't have an extra bye week
Speaker 1: at some point during the regular season, and stretch this
Speaker 1: out as far as you can. So then you go
Speaker 1: from February with the super Bowl. So then you're going
Speaker 1: to go into the combine and free agency coming up,
Speaker 1: and then you go into the draft. So you have
Speaker 1: basically corralled about nine months here from September. I mean,
Speaker 1: it really doesn't end. I mean, if you're thinking about
Speaker 1: it like you have maybe May and June that don't
Speaker 1: matter in the NFL. Well, I mean they're close to
Speaker 1: ten months out of the year where they're dominating the
Speaker 1: news cycle. But if you can stretch the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: towards the end of February and then you turn right around,
Speaker 1: you got free agency coming up, and then you got
Speaker 1: the combine, then you got the draft, that's pretty good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm glove another poots. Should the NBA cut down from
Speaker 1: eighty two games? And if that's too obvious, should they
Speaker 1: cut down and have a midseason tournament that Adam Silver
Speaker 1: has floated out They don't totally understand. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't get the mid season tournament there. I thought
Speaker 1: maybe it's an excuse to cut down the games, because
Speaker 1: there seems to be such a call for that to
Speaker 1: get out of eighty two. Yeah, but you can't now
Speaker 1: because of all of the TV money and the player's
Speaker 1: salaries and the owners want to make their money. Now
Speaker 1: I'm going to cut down on the number of games.
Speaker 1: How do I make my money to pay these guys? Like?
Speaker 1: It's kind of the tail wagon the dog here, and
Speaker 1: I think it'd be difficult to do that. How are
Speaker 1: you going to do this in baseball where all of
Speaker 1: a sudden you say we'd like to lop off twenty
Speaker 1: games Meanwhile, we're gonna pay Mike Trout four hundred million
Speaker 1: dollars or Bryce Harper three hundred million dollars. It's we're
Speaker 1: pretty far down the rabbit hole with this that I
Speaker 1: don't think you can do that, but I agree, I'd
Speaker 1: love to, you know, take away twenty games in the NBA,
Speaker 1: take away twenty games in baseball, and make it like
Speaker 1: more exciting. College basketball rendered meaningless. You know, will getting
Speaker 1: rid of the one and done help college basketball? That
Speaker 1: if you stay, you got to stay for at least
Speaker 1: two years. You can come out of high school. Great
Speaker 1: that I know it doesn't help the NBA because the
Speaker 1: NBA wants you to get a little more experience. They
Speaker 1: don't want to babysit eighteen year olds. But if you
Speaker 1: want to give them an opportunity, great, you can come out.
Speaker 1: College football has three years now. There are certain players
Speaker 1: that should come out earlier. It'd be any great running
Speaker 1: back in college should come out early. And if I'm
Speaker 1: a quarterback just had a great year, I should I
Speaker 1: should be allowed to come out because if you stay,
Speaker 1: it feels like nothing good ever happens, your draft status
Speaker 1: goes down. It just it feels like you're on display
Speaker 1: too long and then we start to nitpick you. Po.
Speaker 1: If Trevor Lawrence were available in this draft, he would
Speaker 1: be taken ahead of Joe Burrow. Is that for sure
Speaker 1: or likely? Mcle What do you think the way people
Speaker 1: were write about him? I would say for sure, but
Speaker 1: that might be that, you know how you always say
Speaker 1: that people kind of evaluate the guys who are in
Speaker 1: the draft a little better. Well, everybody, what's what they weren't,
Speaker 1: what they can't have. Therefore, Trevor Lawrence, man, he's unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow just gave you the greatest season a quarterback
Speaker 1: has ever given to a team in college football history,
Speaker 1: much better than anything Trevor Lawrence has done. We're just
Speaker 1: not quite sure how what the ceiling is for Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 1: Lawrence has only lost one game. It's entire career. He's
Speaker 1: not lacking for any success. Is he a great quarterback? Oh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: great by college standards? Yes, okay, I mean he's only
Speaker 1: lost one game in two years. Oh gotta prove. I
Speaker 1: know he's around playing. I mean, you know, Greg McElroy
Speaker 1: probably didn't lose too much at Alabama. I mean, Burrows
Speaker 1: got pros all over and around him too, although he
Speaker 1: did elevate that team a lot. I mean two or
Speaker 1: two years ago was the hot thing after the title game.
Speaker 1: You know, the Dolphins were tanking for two of So
Speaker 1: I think a lot of times we get these quarterbacks
Speaker 1: and it's new and you go, oh my gosh, he
Speaker 1: checks all the boxes there, he's six six, he looks
Speaker 1: like a quarterback. He's strong arm. It feels like he's
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck, though the one exception that goes wire to wire.
Speaker 1: I think Trevor Lawrence is the new and he gets
Speaker 1: compared to Luck a lot. He's been his ninth grade,
Speaker 1: he's been the wonder time. Okay, I take but maybe not.
Speaker 1: I mean you I always think that on him, always wrong.
Speaker 1: And I thought Matt Barkley was a top ten pick.
Speaker 1: I think so did Matt Sam Darnold two or three three.
Speaker 1: But people are still waiting for that greatness, I know,
Speaker 1: kissing to these out. Yeah, yeah, you know what, Trevor
Speaker 1: Lawrence doesn't have that rhyme like suck for Luck, you know,
Speaker 1: tank for Tua that you need a rhyme off his name.
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence a look too wordy, I would say, Todd
Speaker 1: what rhymes with Trevor, but it won't rhyme with Trevor.
Speaker 1: I was gonna go sever for Trevor, like sever your
Speaker 1: your attempts to win games, but if it's not a
Speaker 1: rhyme thing, but it's just like losing for Lawrence. It's alliteration, right, Yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: I know you haven't really dovid all these projects. But
Speaker 1: I keep seeing this guy Jordan Love from Utah stage
Speaker 1: first round of every mock draft. His numbers are terrible.
Speaker 1: I can't. So you talk about college success doesn't mean
Speaker 1: anything to these guys because he's like, you know, he's
Speaker 1: terrible passerad We'll look at Daniel Jones, yeah, Mitchell Truebisky.
Speaker 1: So having a great college here doesn't necessarily mean that
Speaker 1: you the NFL us you the same way it would
Speaker 1: for me, Like I want to see how successful you are.
Speaker 1: You know, Daniel Jones didn't play on a good he
Speaker 1: didn't play well on a average team. Mitchell Trubisky played
Speaker 1: okay on an average team. I still like what I see.
Speaker 1: I still like when I go, oh, that guy, that
Speaker 1: guy Teddy Bridgewater. People I doubts about him. I said,
Speaker 1: I watched him on Saturday seems like he knows what
Speaker 1: he's doing here. But the bad PRO Day, Oh, I go,
Speaker 1: and it felt so bad. It's like, oh, he ruined
Speaker 1: it bad PRO Day, and I go. I'd still tak him.
Speaker 1: What he did was ruined anyone who takes pro days
Speaker 1: seriously after him? Everyone's got why am I watching this?
Speaker 1: We'll get phone calls. Bob Costas will join us. M Fritzie,
Speaker 1: who has been very critical Bruce Springsteen on today's show.
Speaker 1: I made him entertain the nation when our live looking
Speaker 1: if you were watching on TV, some of the responses,
Speaker 1: that was the best look in live look in ever.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Fritzie. Uh oh that's from Fritzie. Never mind,
Speaker 1: Uh that look in was awful, Fritzie. Uh. Fritzie is
Speaker 1: only spewing these terrible music takes to distract from the
Speaker 1: fact that he didn't book any That's cold. Do you
Speaker 1: realize Bob Costas booked himself today? Now I'm being honest,
Speaker 1: that's true. Bob wanted to clarify something he said last
Speaker 1: time may be gone now not a few times. Now.
Speaker 1: He's got an open window, an open invite, Bob. But
Speaker 1: but you didn't even book Bob Costas. I didn't. We
Speaker 1: had Leggie Miller on the reason he's a weekly regular guests.
Speaker 1: So that's that's the true right there for Uh. This
Speaker 1: is from another listener. I always feel sorry for Fritzie
Speaker 1: because of how awkward he is, and I try to
Speaker 1: root for him. But his segments like the last one
Speaker 1: helped me understand why he gets picked on so much.
Speaker 1: Somebody also liked the fact that we suggested Fritzie suggested uh,
Speaker 1: flipping bowling pins that were on fire today, and we
Speaker 1: were all for that. We wanted to go get bowling
Speaker 1: pins and set them on fire and let Fritzie juggle those.
Speaker 1: I don't know how to use a lighter s something
Speaker 1: that is true. That was an amazing piece of video.
Speaker 1: Not the most of all the different things you've seen
Speaker 1: me on not be able to do you you you
Speaker 1: can't do any helse or chores, like if you were
Speaker 1: left alone. You know, when you can't leave a child
Speaker 1: at home for any extended people one of those bracelets
Speaker 1: like that I'm falling and I can't get up kind
Speaker 1: or like a pet, you can't leave the pet there
Speaker 1: for too long like that your wife must say, Hey, Todd,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be back in four hours or you gonna
Speaker 1: be okay. No canned grids like you can't open I say,
Speaker 1: one of those things with the ring where you can
Speaker 1: just gotta pull it open. But but Fritzie couldn't use
Speaker 1: a lighter. You eventually got it, but I only was
Speaker 1: able to hold it for like a half a second.
Speaker 1: It took you over a minute to figure out how
Speaker 1: to use a lighter. I was looking at it like
Speaker 1: it was some kind of NASA project. But the fact
Speaker 1: you used a broom like it was shuffle board I did.
Speaker 1: It was one of words to describe how it wasn't
Speaker 1: a bit like you didn't know how to use a broom. No,
Speaker 1: I wasn't looking for laughs. I was looking for a pity.
Speaker 1: I guess that was genuinely. And then and then we
Speaker 1: were cutting down the nets. When we left the old
Speaker 1: man left scissor no, no, no, no. We were cutting
Speaker 1: down the nets, and Fritzie got up there because I
Speaker 1: wanted all of us to cut down the nets, symbolic
Speaker 1: that where you're leaving the old man, kid Todd, you
Speaker 1: couldn't do it. You couldn't actually cut down the nets.
Speaker 1: It took a very long time. With instead of taking
Speaker 1: the righty scissors and and putting it in his right hand.
Speaker 1: He kept it in his left hand and tried to
Speaker 1: I stuck with the left hand. But ultimately that was
Speaker 1: very poor. Everybody did it like in a matter of
Speaker 1: like a second and a half, and it seemed like
Speaker 1: it was several minutes before I could even make an
Speaker 1: a dent in the netting. That never mind actually cutting
Speaker 1: a piece off. It was bad, it was. It was
Speaker 1: very bad. Yes, it was sad. It wasn't bad. It
Speaker 1: was just sad. It was it was. It was sad. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was very unfortunate. That's such a limited we're showing
Speaker 1: that now we're Fritzy's up there, and then he claimed
Speaker 1: whether they're right handed scissors. You know, it's funny. Look
Speaker 1: at my hand. I could do this. I can close
Speaker 1: the gap. I think. I thought, there's not these things
Speaker 1: for a reason. But there's no excuse for that poor
Speaker 1: neddic cutting performance. But there must be a reason why
Speaker 1: they make lefty food. And you do not how to
Speaker 1: do the tongs either, did not like, I don't know
Speaker 1: how to unlock it. I didn't realize there was a
Speaker 1: lock on tongue. Yeah, there's some kind of thing you
Speaker 1: had to turn to actually remove some kind of and
Speaker 1: around it to be able to freely open and close.
Speaker 1: He was showing that now, so I just could to
Speaker 1: pick it up and you know, kind of go at
Speaker 1: my own length or space that I needed up tong
Speaker 1: to pick This is definitely its own TV show, just
Speaker 1: asking Todd to do like can you like this lighter?
Speaker 1: And then just film it. Yeah, And remember when he
Speaker 1: was cutting Pauli's birthday cake, there's like dd IY, like,
Speaker 1: don't do it yourself, But I can't do it yourself.
Speaker 1: Is there anything Tod can do on its own? Ella?
Speaker 1: Now we're showing him cutting the cake. So so he
Speaker 1: he leaves it in the box and he's gonna try
Speaker 1: to cut it, but he can't get the knife all
Speaker 1: the way down trying to contain all the cubs in
Speaker 1: the box. The box is Oh, that's that's a struggle.
Speaker 1: It was a little struggle for me man versus cake.
Speaker 1: And then Seaton is trying to help him, like dismantling
Speaker 1: the box, and then paul he said no, no, no,
Speaker 1: He's like no, no, no, no no, don't it. Don't leave it.
Speaker 1: Let him figure it out. You're fascinating getting sharp in
Speaker 1: those plastic that plastic knights helped me cutting fast the
Speaker 1: way it's a knife fault. It was. It was like
Speaker 1: a nurse for knife, not a left handed knife, cake
Speaker 1: cutting knife. It actually says on the box that we
Speaker 1: think it's for cake cutting it and it didn't have
Speaker 1: like those look sharp edges where you could actually take
Speaker 1: a break here. Bob cost just well, John, it's like
Speaker 1: a butter knife. What's the uh what's he make of
Speaker 1: the astros? Because every piece and what does he think
Speaker 1: he's going to happen with the red songs? We'll talk
Speaker 1: to Bob cost Is coming up next twenty after the hour.
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Speaker 1: poll results if you can the clun Are you okay
Speaker 1: with seventeen games? Also, we're gonna get less preseason games,
Speaker 1: probably three, and I'm fine with that if you could
Speaker 1: have those, uh, team versus team scrimmages. But if you're
Speaker 1: going to have the preseason games and you want to
Speaker 1: drop it down to three, now, that means that you
Speaker 1: got some rookies who are trying to prove themselves might
Speaker 1: not get that kind of opportunity they've had before. Tom
Speaker 1: and Florida joins us Hi. Tom, Yeah, that was my question. Dan.
Speaker 1: Your guy tell you they were going to cut preseason
Speaker 1: down to two and one other thing. Did you see
Speaker 1: the Illinois Penn State game with the coaches Dan Mikes, Yeah,
Speaker 1: getting inside the huddle? Yeah, that was pretty cool. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean they're trying to all kinds of different ways
Speaker 1: to bring you closer to the game. And I was
Speaker 1: watching that game where the Illinois Penn State head coaches
Speaker 1: were miked up during the game. Let's bring in Bob Costs,
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame broadcaster, MLB network host, play by play voice.
Speaker 1: Good morning, Bob. Let me start with the NFL. What
Speaker 1: do you make of this expansion? Don't don't start with
Speaker 1: the NFL. Let's start with Fritzie. I think on tomorrow's
Speaker 1: show he should just open up with this overrated list
Speaker 1: Willie Mays, Wayne Grets, Michael Jordan, and Jim Brown and
Speaker 1: then let the conversation go wherever it's going to go.
Speaker 1: Love Family in with the grotesquely overrated Beatles and Bruce
Speaker 1: Fringsy and go from there. Can an opinion be factually wrong? Yeah, okay, ridiculous? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, this is this is why callers call in.
Speaker 1: People write songs and they say stuck at back row.
Speaker 1: Because of the comments I have from the back row
Speaker 1: here and Fritzie Fritzie leading the charge here. Well, actually
Speaker 1: there were no stats except for record soul and I
Speaker 1: guess concert attendants. There's no stats when it comes to
Speaker 1: the Beatles or Springsteen or whoever. But when it comes
Speaker 1: to sports, yeah, you can argue around the edges whether
Speaker 1: Will Chamberlain was better than Kareem, but you at least
Speaker 1: have some statistics to refer to, so you can't say
Speaker 1: outright that either one of them is greatly overrated. I
Speaker 1: remember you did the interview with Springsteen when he was
Speaker 1: throwing the halftime show. Yeah, how big of a sports
Speaker 1: fan at Springsteen huge baseball fan. But he actually said
Speaker 1: on that occasion, I don't really follow football. And he said,
Speaker 1: with a laugh, We've got a record to promote and
Speaker 1: this is the best possible place to promote it. So
Speaker 1: he said, don't don't ask me any football, but you've
Speaker 1: has he been to a game that you've been at baseball? Yes.
Speaker 1: In nineteen ninety eight, he brought his then young son
Speaker 1: Evan to Saint Louis on the weekend that Sosa and
Speaker 1: McGuire were vuying. They're reach close to sixty or sixty
Speaker 1: one and he went down into the Cardinal Clubhouse and
Speaker 1: actually traded a Springsteen guitar for a Mark McGuire bat,
Speaker 1: and he stayed for the whole series. He stayed for
Speaker 1: all three games. No, that's cool. What do you make
Speaker 1: of NFL expansion? Did they eventually Yeah? Can we get
Speaker 1: to the point of no return with the NFL? I
Speaker 1: guess you could have, but I don't think they've reached it.
Speaker 1: The interest is extremely high, and football is different from baseball.
Speaker 1: They play a shorter regular season. The only real difference
Speaker 1: would be, I guess, as I understand it, only the
Speaker 1: top division winner in each conference would get a buy
Speaker 1: instead of the first two. But it doesn't drastically alter
Speaker 1: the setup. It swortens the preseason, which fans like, I
Speaker 1: guess they'll throw in an extra BUYE week. They might
Speaker 1: push the super Bowl, and this also makes sense the
Speaker 1: President's Weekend. The whole thing actually makes sense both from
Speaker 1: a business stand point and from a competitive stampoint. I
Speaker 1: think it makes sense they're going to have to expand
Speaker 1: the rosters because the wear and tear of the season
Speaker 1: if you're going to add an next game and add
Speaker 1: an extra FI week. But it seems like all those
Speaker 1: necessary steps are logical and don't really upset the apple
Speaker 1: cart all that much. Yeah, I agree with the President's
Speaker 1: weekend because then that gives you that holiday that Monday
Speaker 1: after the Super Bowl that a lot of people take off. Anyway,
Speaker 1: now you're saying, hey, we acknowledge that you can take
Speaker 1: off that day work. I'm told they're only going to
Speaker 1: add maybe one or two more players to the roster
Speaker 1: when they go to seventeen game regular season schedule. I'm
Speaker 1: no expert on this, but that doesn't seem like enough
Speaker 1: to me, and I think the Players Association would have
Speaker 1: a very strong case to argue for more. Why isn't
Speaker 1: the astro story going away because the players? I think
Speaker 1: the players are keeping it going and adding extra fuel.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you've mentioned this before. At the height or
Speaker 1: depth of the steroid era, lots of players would privately
Speaker 1: express their concern and eventually they push the Players Association
Speaker 1: to recognize that many of their own members were victims
Speaker 1: rather than participants in ped us, but they never said
Speaker 1: anything publicly. This was before players had Twitter accounts and
Speaker 1: Instagram and everything else, and that adds fuel to the
Speaker 1: fire too. But I think what's really keeping it going
Speaker 1: is how outspoken and adamant the players themselves have been,
Speaker 1: because we in the press and baseball officials had their
Speaker 1: say within the last few weeks. But now it's the
Speaker 1: players when spring training has arrived and they're being asked
Speaker 1: questions are going on their social media accounts. It's the
Speaker 1: players now that are really keeping it going. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: trying to figure out how this ends. You know, everybody
Speaker 1: wants something out of this, and I don't know what
Speaker 1: that something is. And I said, look, if you want
Speaker 1: to take away the trophy and vacated, okay, fine. If
Speaker 1: I can't punish the players, then I don't want people
Speaker 1: picking up a baseball and thrown at night, five month
Speaker 1: an hour at them and extracting some kind of revenge.
Speaker 1: But what would be your solution where you think that
Speaker 1: you could play kate the players and the fans affected
Speaker 1: by this. I said this the day the story broke,
Speaker 1: after the athletic had Mike fires information, and then eventually
Speaker 1: the commissioner came down with this penalties and Jim Crane
Speaker 1: fired hints and lu now that my suspicion was and
Speaker 1: it turned out to be correct that they had to
Speaker 1: grant immunity to the players, both because of existing understandings
Speaker 1: in the Basic Agreement and because they would have gotten
Speaker 1: huge pushback from the Players Association in any case, So
Speaker 1: that was a road they didn't want to go down.
Speaker 1: But I speculated at that time that they could very
Speaker 1: well wind up in the same place they wound up
Speaker 1: with steroids and peeds, which was that eventually they recognized
Speaker 1: that there was mutual interest here. The Players Association would
Speaker 1: have to agree and they're hearing it from their members now.
Speaker 1: When it comes to the astros, they'd have to agree
Speaker 1: that the majority of players are victims when other players cheat,
Speaker 1: and so in the next Basic Agreement, I think they're
Speaker 1: going to have to codify penalties, just like they eventually
Speaker 1: did with steroids. They're gonna have to codify penalties. This
Speaker 1: is what happens to players if then when they're caught
Speaker 1: doing this kind of stuff. But if I can Dan,
Speaker 1: I'm going to go against the tide a little bit.
Speaker 1: When a lot of people have said fans and some
Speaker 1: people in the press, this is though deterrent Manfred's initial ruling.
Speaker 1: This is very decurrent because the players themselves weren't punished.
Speaker 1: But I don't think that makes that much sense because
Speaker 1: they said beforehand and the memo in September of twenty seventeen,
Speaker 1: and then their penalties Hinge fired, suspended, then fired, then
Speaker 1: lu now than Car then eventually Beltron, although that wasn't
Speaker 1: a commissioner's decision, but the Mets decided. What's clear is this,
Speaker 1: there's no way that players, even if they want to
Speaker 1: do it again. If some players somewhere wants to do
Speaker 1: it again, there's no way the coaches and managers wouldn't
Speaker 1: know about it. Hinch knew about it all right. No
Speaker 1: manager is going to say, you know what, one the way,
Speaker 1: the risk reward, it's worth it to destroy or at
Speaker 1: least significantly derail my entire career and look the other
Speaker 1: way while these players are cheating. So I think, actually,
Speaker 1: if you think about the practical effect, this is a deterrent.
Speaker 1: No coach or manager or general manager, if he knows
Speaker 1: about it, is going to let this go on and
Speaker 1: run the risk to his career. Talking to Bob Constance,
Speaker 1: what do you think happens with the Red Sox? You know,
Speaker 1: I'm a little vague on that. I don't know most
Speaker 1: of it is Cora related. Going back to Houston and
Speaker 1: then compounded by whatever might have happened with the Red Sox.
Speaker 1: But the few Red Sox who have commented JD. Martinez
Speaker 1: and Keith Morland have said not Keith Morland, I'm thinking
Speaker 1: back to the old Cubs. I got my Morlands confused.
Speaker 1: I'm on the west coach. Then it's early in the
Speaker 1: morning for me anyway. Mitch Moreland, Mitch Moreland, they kind
Speaker 1: of flatly said, we're not aware of anything that went on.
Speaker 1: We don't expect that we as a team are going
Speaker 1: to be hit all that hard, but we'll see within
Speaker 1: a week. They say that the decision will be rendered
Speaker 1: by the end of next week. Well, we'll be the
Speaker 1: players because they can't get punished, right, right, But they
Speaker 1: were saying we weren't aware of anything going on at all.
Speaker 1: They can't be punished. But if you were aware that
Speaker 1: something was going on, you would think you wouldn't walk
Speaker 1: out on a limb that way and say nothing to
Speaker 1: see here. But we'll find out. And last time you
Speaker 1: were on, you were talking about expanding the playoffs or
Speaker 1: you wanted to clarify something you said last time you
Speaker 1: were on. Yeah, baseball has floated an idea about expanding
Speaker 1: the playoffs where you'd have the three division winners and
Speaker 1: the best division winner would get a buy and then
Speaker 1: you would have four wildcards. And I said to you
Speaker 1: that I thought that some of this had merit and
Speaker 1: was worth discussing. I don't have any problem with a
Speaker 1: television show as a selection show. It's an interesting night
Speaker 1: to let the higher seeded teams pick their opponents. That
Speaker 1: might be some strategy involved there. But it was made
Speaker 1: to seem not by you, but by some people, as
Speaker 1: if I was promoting this idea or that I was
Speaker 1: all in, And what I actually said was this is
Speaker 1: a starting point, and there's lots of ways that you
Speaker 1: could come at it. And the one thing that you
Speaker 1: have to be mindful of, and I've always said this
Speaker 1: going back to when they added the first wildcard, is
Speaker 1: the difference between baseball and other sports, the difference between
Speaker 1: the history of a pennant race and mere playoff qualifying,
Speaker 1: and of course the difference in the length of the season.
Speaker 1: The NFL goes and expands, as we just talked about,
Speaker 1: their season is a tenth as long, roughly as baseball's season.
Speaker 1: So you can't I don't think you can throw division winners.
Speaker 1: Last year, for example, in the American League, three teams
Speaker 1: won more than one hundred games. It's one thing to
Speaker 1: say the two wildcards have to play a one game
Speaker 1: knockout or a best two out of three. If you
Speaker 1: come in through the side door, that makes sense. Or
Speaker 1: if you play a whole season and you wind up
Speaker 1: at a dead heat. Giants and Dodgers played two out
Speaker 1: of three and fifty one the Buffy Dent game. The
Speaker 1: Yankees and Red Sox played a single game, but that
Speaker 1: makes sense because they played to a dead heat over
Speaker 1: one fifty four or one fifty two. But if you
Speaker 1: play one hundred and sixty two games or wherever they
Speaker 1: wind up one fifty six, and one team wins one
Speaker 1: hundred and the other is the fourth wildcard and has
Speaker 1: a five hundred record, then a best two out of
Speaker 1: three might not be an acceptable craft. Shoot, think of
Speaker 1: how often this is baseball, not basketball a football. Think
Speaker 1: of how often a team that wins ninety plus games
Speaker 1: loses two out of three at home during the course
Speaker 1: of the season to a team that finishes under five hundred.
Speaker 1: Because it's baseball, So I'm saying that what they've thrown
Speaker 1: out there is interesting and has some merit, but they've
Speaker 1: got to reconcile it with the validity of the long season.
Speaker 1: So if you have two more minutes here, I would
Speaker 1: say where they are now us with the five playoff
Speaker 1: qualifiers and two wildcards per league, they could make the
Speaker 1: wildcard round best two out of three, with all three
Speaker 1: on the home field of the better wildcard qualifier. That
Speaker 1: makes sense, And they could make the division series best
Speaker 1: out of seven instead of best out of five. That
Speaker 1: also makes competitive sense. And they'd only have to cut
Speaker 1: the season back to one fifty six, which is one
Speaker 1: three game home series for each team in order for
Speaker 1: the World Series not to push into November. Or if
Speaker 1: they wanted to add one wildcard. In the present setup,
Speaker 1: they could give first round buys to the two highest
Speaker 1: playoff qualifiers. They have less of a chance of an
Speaker 1: extreme inequity there, or if and when they go to
Speaker 1: thirty two teams, which is going to happen somewhere down
Speaker 1: the road, then you could reconfigure into two eighteam divisions
Speaker 1: per league, arranged geographically, then logically completely logically, the two
Speaker 1: division winners get a buy and you have four wildcard
Speaker 1: teams per League. There you wind up with something that's expanded,
Speaker 1: it's modernized, but it still respects the importance of the
Speaker 1: long baseball season. You feel better. I feel so much, Bend.
Speaker 1: I don't even have to. I don't pay you seventy
Speaker 1: five dollars for the hour on the out. I'm here
Speaker 1: for you, Bob. I'm here, you always happening. I'm here.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Bob. You're welcome to thank you. Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame roadcaster. You know he loves the game so much
Speaker 1: that you wouldn't want to be the commissioner. Because you
Speaker 1: love the game so much, I think the last thing
Speaker 1: you want to do is like I gotta I gotta
Speaker 1: get involved in all the thing you can always you
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Speaker 1: you're Bob, because people are always going, yeah, Bob, make
Speaker 1: a big, great commissioner. Why would I do that to Bob?
Speaker 1: I think it feels like he just wants to call games,
Speaker 1: go to games. Yeah, No need to get involved in
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Speaker 1: Triggers in the house, Chad, our good buddy from Tregger
Speaker 1: out there cooking up, cooking up a storm, a little
Speaker 1: pulled pork, some pulled porch sliders coming up here, lunch,
Speaker 1: hunt me up. Paul. He's a fantastic chef, but it
Speaker 1: seems like he just sits around and stairs at the grilla.
Speaker 1: Lotton has a cocktail his hands. Yeah, he's just pretty
Speaker 1: good living even now we're showing him. It's he's got
Speaker 1: his staff that feels like he's They do all the work.
Speaker 1: And Chad just if you can see him now, he
Speaker 1: just kind of standing there. Maybe he's good a delegator.
Speaker 1: I have seen him in action at the super Bowl
Speaker 1: when he had those triggers fired up at the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: That was some unbelievable food there. Yeah. One of the
Speaker 1: nice things about the grillas. You could put it outside
Speaker 1: and you're doing like a three hour smoke on some ribs,
Speaker 1: and you could say you're monitoring the grill, You're keeping
Speaker 1: an eye on things. You could say here, you're doing that.
Speaker 1: You could avoid your family and sit out there with
Speaker 1: the drink. All right, A couple of things. Let me see,
Speaker 1: I got Scott and South Carolina says I'd rather listen
Speaker 1: to Fritzie's mock headlines than Todd ragging on Bruce Springsteen.
Speaker 1: Let me see, I've always thought Bruce Springsteen was a
Speaker 1: poor man's Bob Seeger. And if Seeger was from New
Speaker 1: Jersey and Springsteen was from Detroit, Springsteen would be an afterthought. Wow,
Speaker 1: no contest. When it comes to bodies of work, Seeger
Speaker 1: light years better. Oh. I like Bob Seeger, but body
Speaker 1: of work I don't know about that. Mike in Michigan,
Speaker 1: I don't know about that. Here's a email from Jimmy
Speaker 1: and Phoenix to me, you two is overrated. I like them,
Speaker 1: but I can go without. Yeah. I appreciate YouTube, you know,
Speaker 1: just to be able to do it that long, that
Speaker 1: that amount of time. That that's the sustainability of some
Speaker 1: of these great acts. And I go back to you
Speaker 1: know that who's still touring the Stone still touring? You know,
Speaker 1: Robert Plant of led Zeppelin is still touring making music. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, David Bowie for a long time was still
Speaker 1: putting out great music. Prince still putting out was putting
Speaker 1: out great music. Aerosmith is still together, you know. And
Speaker 1: that's just a name. You know, five or six of them.
Speaker 1: But those are bands. John Fogerty of Credence, Clearwater Revival
Speaker 1: still performing. These are Neil Young is still performing. Like
Speaker 1: that's that's the sustainability to be, you know, relative where
Speaker 1: somebody is still watching you and new people are finding
Speaker 1: your music. I've always been impressed with that. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm still fast ad with the one hit Wonders. But
Speaker 1: you have those bands, those artists who are Elton John
Speaker 1: is still performing, Billy Joel is still performing, and you know,
Speaker 1: That's that's great. Yeah, alright, Uh, Trigger Meet Friday songs.
Speaker 1: We start with Nick in Hawaii, so we all right,
Speaker 1: that's pretty good. That's blur. I believe that's Nick in Hawaiian?
Speaker 1: Is that blur? Seaton? Yeah? So it's a song song
Speaker 1: two song two. Max and Florida has his Meat Friday song.
Speaker 1: You know you shouldn't line up that truck. I have
Speaker 1: a triggered meat Fridays. I'm leaving. I need a few
Speaker 1: burger gritting me the morn I'm watching me drugging. Want
Speaker 1: to say, stuck it? Now? Back row? Nick Loving's on
Speaker 1: the band wagon for the next team. I know he
Speaker 1: plays all right, Max and Florida a little Bobby Doling.
Speaker 1: That sounded really that sounded well well done. T J
Speaker 1: and Washington would a trigger Meat Friday. So I'm at up,
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Speaker 1: I will them met on the tragger. So that's TJ
Speaker 1: in Washington. I think that's better than the original Maroon
Speaker 1: five songs. Is this way better? Yeah? Send your tragger
Speaker 1: Meat Friday songs and we will get ready. Once we
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Speaker 1: Keep them to under a minute if you can, No,
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Speaker 1: Let me go to John in Indiana. John, what do
Speaker 1: you have for me to fight? Five? Hey had some
Speaker 1: thoughts on the seventeenth game of the NFL having it
Speaker 1: being a neutral site. There's so many great venues that
Speaker 1: would set up for you. You've got it may not
Speaker 1: work with the Bengals and the Browns and the Horseshoe
Speaker 1: because that'd be an extra divisional game, but you've got
Speaker 1: the Colts and the Bears could play in the house,
Speaker 1: the Rockney build. You got the Eagles and the Steelers
Speaker 1: could play in Happy Valley, you got the Jets and
Speaker 1: the Giants. I mean they could play at Rutgers. Okay,
Speaker 1: maybe that idea doesn't work. No, I think they're all
Speaker 1: great ideas. If because you got to decide what are
Speaker 1: you doing with that extra game? You got eight home,
Speaker 1: eight away, and then what do you do with the
Speaker 1: seventeenth game? Get creative. You could go to different venues
Speaker 1: that wouldn't normally get this. You could go to college stadiums. Yeah, Polly,
Speaker 1: if I were the Minnesota Vikings, I'd play my final
Speaker 1: regular season home game where the Gophers play outside. And
Speaker 1: think of the advantage you'd have of a team coming
Speaker 1: late in a season if you're in a playoff run
Speaker 1: and playing out game in Minnesota. Yeah, but you have
Speaker 1: to be ready to play outside as well. You're more ready.
Speaker 1: Well if you live there full time, well you're there,
Speaker 1: you're around the elements, but you're not playing in the elements. Yeah.
Speaker 1: If you now, all of a sudden, you know you're
Speaker 1: gonna be out there, and you're gonna say, what now,
Speaker 1: is this an advantage for us? It feels like Mike
Speaker 1: Zimmer would be okay with that. Yes, in Green Bay
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Speaker 1: you okay with the seventeen game schedule? Sixty five percent
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