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Speaker 3: Oh, good morning everybody.

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Speaker 4: Welcome in here as we get you all set for

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Speaker 4: a fun football weekend. We are loaded in the NFL

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Speaker 4: and we've got Army Navy in college football.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, a little more than.

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Speaker 3: That, guys, Good morning to you.

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Speaker 4: How did we get here where it feels like we

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Speaker 4: should be getting ready like week four of the college

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Speaker 4: football season.

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Speaker 1: It's not October.

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Speaker 3: You got our Army Navy.

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Speaker 1: It's it's not fair, It really isn't.

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Speaker 6: It happens every season to us because we're so invested

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Speaker 6: like many people out there watching. But when, uh, when

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Speaker 6: when the season clicks over to the halfway point, I

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Speaker 6: always try.

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Speaker 1: To, you know, have a moment like where I'm like,

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Speaker 1: all right, you know.

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Speaker 6: Most of these teams had their bye week, Like just

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Speaker 6: we're getting we're getting close, buddy, Like make sure you

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Speaker 6: you really value this time.

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Speaker 1: And then I never do.

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Speaker 6: And then we get to this point and I'm like,

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Speaker 6: you know what, I wish I really marinated in it more.

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Speaker 1: I really, but that such is the Such is the

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Speaker 1: time of year.

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Speaker 6: We're into conference championship games, we're into the postseason, and

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Speaker 6: we're into national national championship and then it's done, and

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Speaker 6: then it then all we have to look forward to

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Speaker 6: is the NFL playoffs and then the desert that.

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Speaker 5: Is off season, the desert.

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Speaker 7: The desert here in Vegas has been very hospitable for

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Speaker 7: Brian and I so far now there, I yeah, right,

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Speaker 7: Like where did the season go? But that's that's the

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Speaker 7: beauty of it. I think that's what makes this college

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Speaker 7: football season so unique. It's the shortest of all the

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Speaker 7: major sports seasons. I know the NFL it's a pretty

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Speaker 7: short season too, but college football is even shorter. Now

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Speaker 7: it's different this year. I feel differently about bowl season

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Speaker 7: this year than I have any prior year. Obviously, it's

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Speaker 7: starting on a different day. I don't recall and Brian,

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Speaker 7: you correct me if I'm wrong. I don't recall a

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Speaker 7: time we've ever had a bowl game the same day

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Speaker 7: as Army Navy.

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Speaker 4: I can't remember either, Right, we get a we got

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Speaker 4: a couple today. Yeah, nothing off the top of my head.

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Speaker 4: But the bowl season is loaded, and we got bowl

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Speaker 5: It's like a whole month.

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Speaker 7: And then of course the Kachuwall Playoff has expanded too,

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Speaker 7: So like it's it feels it does feel differently even

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Speaker 5: It doesn't feel like we're in that normal bull campaign.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: We do have what Jackson State and South Carolina State?

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Speaker 4: That's the Celebration Bowl. Today we got south Western.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I haven't heard of this company before, have you?

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Speaker 1: Is it?

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Speaker 3: I S four S?

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Speaker 5: I have not heard of that at all.

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Speaker 3: Salute to Veterans Bowl. That's fine with that.

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Speaker 5: I don't know what I ask for it, I mean,

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Speaker 7: Like every Bolt Bowl games change sponsors, right, Yeah, there

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Speaker 3: What's going on over here?

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Speaker 5: I didn't know this company?

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Speaker 4: Do love the Snoop DOGG Arizona Bowl yeah, I been

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Speaker 4: familiar with that. So lots to get to today. We'll

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Speaker 4: get you all set for Week fifteen. In the NFL.

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Speaker 4: We've got four games for every every team not named

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Speaker 4: Week fifteen. We will get to today. The first thing

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Speaker 4: there's a lot to get to Army Navy today. But

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Speaker 4: the biggest story football wise this week is Bill Belichick

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Speaker 4: going back to college. It's funny because I said I

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Speaker 4: He does have a ten million dollar buyout that drops

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Speaker 4: How long do you think Bill Belichick is gonna be

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Speaker 1: I could very easily see that being the case.

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Speaker 1: Look, you know that's the first part of it.

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Speaker 6: Since college is looking more like the pros every single day,

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Speaker 5: And you said it. College is more like the pros

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Speaker 7: I consider Bill Belichick now to be a pioneer to

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Speaker 5: Of what college football is. What did the when they

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Speaker 7: But again, if these programs are built like professional franchises

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Speaker 5: On the fundamentals of the game.

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Speaker 7: I think the biggest indicator that this is going to work,

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Speaker 7: Like if you had a choice, do I want to

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Speaker 5: I mean, I don't I think that decision is easy.

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Speaker 7: But Brian, you mentioned the buyout, he might not make

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Speaker 7: He might have been saying it tongue in cheek, but

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right. Yeah, isn't that weird?

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Speaker 4: The buyout drops to one million dollars after June of

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Speaker 4: help me get in the NFL. That could be his thinking.

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Speaker 4: Also his son Steve Belichick. Maybe this is greasing the

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Speaker 4: Belichick leaves, right, it could be a.

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Speaker 3: Double win for UNC.

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Speaker 4: This is the funny thing to me, there's been so

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Speaker 4: And it's like, guys, this is North Carolina.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I just looked.

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Speaker 4: They've been playing football at North Carolina since nineteen o two.

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Speaker 6: I think I think it's gonna work. It's just a

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Speaker 6: But I think if I'm like you said, and you

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Speaker 6: perfectly stated it, Brian, if I'm North Carolina. I'm much

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'd be way more skeptical if this was Bama

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Speaker 5: Like what? Like what happened? Like like why?

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Speaker 7: Like so it's it's not as simple as would you

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Speaker 5: You have nothing to lose.

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Speaker 7: Now, I'm not gonna go out here and preach about

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Speaker 7: it is like a glove. It's perfect because there is

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Speaker 5: Like now, the next step is, okay.

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Speaker 7: Show me who your quarterback is, show me what your

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Speaker 7: We'll get those questions when we get a spring game.

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Speaker 7: We can analyze some film. But I think this is

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Speaker 7: in college it's like the Gestapo, Like you don't get

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Speaker 5: But again, the success of the team. Let's see him

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll just put a real quick bow on this.

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Speaker 4: Something you said, Jared made me think about this. Think

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Speaker 8: Hey, guys going to be back well, curveball here, hoops talk,

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Speaker 8: all right? I mean it's a loaded slate. I mean

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it is actually funny how quickly you start to

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Speaker 6: Hey, Seamus, is it more difficult for sports books to

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Speaker 8: us to book. We just have to hang a number

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Speaker 8: and then be quick on the sharp money that comes

445
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Speaker 8: in as soon as soon as you see it. The CFP,

446
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Speaker 8: it's pretty much just like booking coffee championships. Most big

447
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Speaker 8: college football games so a lot easier to book than

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Speaker 8: just say, yeah, you know, it's actually the East Texas

449
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Speaker 8: A and M instead of A and M Commerce. Now

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Speaker 8: they changed their name, by the way.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's right.

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Speaker 6: They changed it in the season, by the way, in

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Speaker 6: the middle of the season.

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Speaker 8: So yeah, the college football it's certainly going to be

455
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Speaker 8: harder to beat than just like you know, the pitting

456
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Speaker 8: Stripe bull or the Bahamas Ball.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So Week fifteen in the NFL, Shamus, the headliner game,

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Speaker 4: of course is Bill's Lions. But what do you think

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Speaker 4: the headliner is based on the point spread?

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Speaker 3: Right? What do you like in the most?

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Speaker 8: I've been on the Eagles all year. I really think

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Speaker 8: this is a team that can actually, you know, up

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Speaker 8: end the Lions and go to the Super Bowl this year.

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Speaker 8: And even with Russ at quarterback, I'm still like not

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Speaker 8: entirely there with this Steelers team. So I really like

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Speaker 8: the Eagles this week.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's kind of interesting because I'm in that time now, Shamus,

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Speaker 7: and we text a lot on the side where like

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Speaker 7: all of these different like usually in October, especially like

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Speaker 7: early season, like I'm so tunnel vision on college football

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Speaker 7: and NFL, But now we have all these outside influences

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Speaker 7: of different sports and different types of as we get

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Speaker 7: to like the transition time.

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Speaker 5: From college football season to NFL.

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Speaker 7: Is this more difficult for you because we talk about

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Speaker 7: bowl season. But I had a bookmaker interview once that

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Speaker 7: said the beginning of college basketball season keeps him up

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Speaker 7: at night because of the confluence of sports happening right now.

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Speaker 7: Should we be focusing perhaps on some of the undercards,

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Speaker 7: because that's where maybe you guys can't focus your full

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Speaker 7: attention right now with all this different stuff going on.

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Speaker 8: This is an excellent time of year if you're looking

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Speaker 8: to you know, catch the book sleeping, you know, take

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Speaker 8: advantage of like an edge that you may have have

486
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Speaker 8: a been on Western Carolina unc Ashvill at two o'clock.

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Speaker 8: I couldn't maybe three basketball players on the team, but

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Speaker 8: we got to book them. So there's there's a million

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Speaker 8: different events that we have to book, a lot of options.

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Speaker 8: You can go, you go NHL, NBA, NFL, college basketball,

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Speaker 8: any of the bowl games today. We even have college

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Speaker 8: hockey up on some of the sites that it's available

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Speaker 8: in Yuca State, So there's plenty of options for you

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Speaker 8: to attack the book.

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Speaker 6: Before the college football playoff officially kicks off. You know,

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Speaker 6: you look at the odds on favorites to be the

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Speaker 6: national champion, it's the usual subject suspects. But is there

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Speaker 6: is there a team or team that you think are

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Speaker 6: good value in terms of the in terms of.

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Speaker 1: The odds they have on that list? Could I get

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Speaker 1: a Penn stage shout out? Maybe?

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Speaker 5: Is that tough loss the other night?

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Speaker 8: Okay, yeah, you sure can. I mean this is this

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Speaker 8: is the easiest to aw that you could possibly ask for.

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Speaker 8: I think in this playoff s MU at home. I

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Speaker 8: like SMU a lot, but Penn State getting that team

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Speaker 8: at home, that's a huge advantage. And then you get

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Speaker 8: Boise State on a neutral and then you can get

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Speaker 8: either you know, what's the status of the quarterback position

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Speaker 8: in Georgia? How good is the name going to stack

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Speaker 8: up against Penn State. It's a really nice path to

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Speaker 8: get to the final where you can avoid an Oregon

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Speaker 8: in Ohio State.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Seamus Moment of truth, the Shamus Special today.

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Speaker 3: I dont even know what sport it's gonna be. What

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Speaker 3: do you have for good?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: I got I gotta go back, gotta go back to

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Speaker 8: my roots here, guys, and we're going with an old

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Speaker 8: favorite incarnate word.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: That why they's moving up the plus twenty. They played

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Speaker 8: South Dakota State early in the season. They lost by

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Speaker 8: twenty one, but that was a seven point game almost

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Speaker 8: halfway through the fourth quarter. Dark Calzada is in one

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Speaker 8: of the best quarterbacks in the country Texas A and

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Speaker 8: M the legend Zack Calzada for incarnate word. I think

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Speaker 8: they can keep this within the number.

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Speaker 3: Of the Okay, wow, seamous sounds.

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Speaker 5: They're playing the defending national champions, South Dakota State.

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Speaker 1: Pas. I love this so much, so great.

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Speaker 4: I just I would love you know, whenever you sit

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Speaker 4: down to have coffee or whatever it is, whatever your

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Speaker 4: process is, where you're like, it's incarnate words today.

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Speaker 5: It's great.

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Speaker 4: And what what was like, what the short list was like? Well,

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Speaker 4: who else was in the running?

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: I gotta make it to one of those coffee sessions

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Speaker 4: one of these years. Here, Seamus, you're the best man.

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Speaker 4: Fantastic stuff. I hope you enjoyed the day and the

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Speaker 4: weekend and especially if you're in the garden, huh.

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Speaker 3: I hope you enjoy that if you're there tonight, Seamus.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I hope I can snag a cheaper ticket than

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Speaker 8: what they're at now. But yeah, we're trying to get

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Speaker 8: in there tonight.

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Speaker 1: Good luck with that.

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Speaker 3: Very nice. We appreciate that, Seamus. We'll catch you soon.

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Speaker 1: There.

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Speaker 4: He is Seamus McGee, team lead of Sports Trading at BEDMGM.

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Speaker 4: It is Fox Sports Radios Campdown to kick Off, presented

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Speaker 4: by BEDMGM. Okay, so we got a good five solid

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Speaker 4: five minutes to just whine and complain, you know, sometimes

554
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Speaker 4: good for the soul.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 4: The playoff seating. This college football playoff here, it is

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Speaker 4: just an absolute joke. First things first, Oregon's reward for

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Speaker 4: going undefeated and being the number one team in the

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Speaker 4: country is getting the winner of Tennessee versus Ohio State. Really,

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Speaker 4: it's it's gotta be a better system than this. Boise

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Speaker 4: State is ranked number nine, yet they're the three seed.

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Speaker 4: Arizona State is ranked twelfth and they're the four seed.

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Speaker 4: Both those teams get buys. This can't be the system

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Speaker 4: that we have. It's got to be an easier path

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Speaker 4: for the number one team like Oregon. It's got to

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Speaker 4: be a tougher path for ninth and twelfth ranked teams

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Speaker 4: that might win their conference championship. It's just it's got

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Speaker 4: to change. It has to change. These automatic buys. They

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Speaker 4: have to go away because it screws everything up.

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Speaker 6: I agree with you, and that's the reason why I'm

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Speaker 6: cheerleading expansion already. I think that if you expand the

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Speaker 6: bracket further, it takes away a lot of your problems.

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Speaker 6: It takes a lot of what ills this system already.

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Speaker 6: If there are sixteen teams in, you don't have any

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Speaker 6: more problems. You know, let's start in a round of sixteen,

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Speaker 6: go to an elite eight, just like in college hoops,

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Speaker 6: and then you know, whittle the field to four than two,

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Speaker 6: and let's.

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Speaker 1: Let's crown our champ.

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Speaker 6: I comple completely agree with you, and I think I

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Speaker 6: think the answer to the question, or the answer to

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Speaker 6: the test is four more teams in.

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Speaker 7: We cannot give buys to the ninth and twelfth ranked

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Speaker 7: teams into the top eight of a twelve team field.

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Speaker 7: I will repeat that because I know those numbers can

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Speaker 7: probably sound a little bit for gazy, but that is

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Speaker 7: what happened. The ninth and twelfth ranked teams in the

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Speaker 7: college football Playoffield Bois in Arizona State received buys into

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Speaker 7: the top eight of a twelve team field cannot happen.

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Speaker 7: One of the dumbest things I've ever seen happen in

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Speaker 7: college sports, and that's a long list. Now, there's an

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Speaker 7: easy way to fix this. Here's how you fix it.

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Speaker 7: Just remove the whatever line of text in the rules

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Speaker 7: that said automatic qualifiers get buys if you win your conference. Like,

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Speaker 7: remove that line of text. Just give the byes to

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Speaker 7: the top four ranked teams. You rank the teams, and

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Speaker 7: then you do like a secondary ranking where you slop

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Speaker 7: them into brackets like it's basketballs. Remember the scene in

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Speaker 7: basketballs where it was like the Northwest Central Western Division

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Speaker 7: gets enough of that forgetting rank the teams and then

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Speaker 7: put one, two, three, and four in buys. Forget about

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Speaker 7: the automatic qualifier or the conference championship meaningless. Now, what

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Speaker 7: it does is it devalues the conference championships. But let's

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Speaker 7: be honest. You watch conference championship weekend, there weren't a

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Speaker 7: lot of close games. There was like one close game.

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Speaker 7: It's Penn State Oregon. Actually know the Clubson SMU game

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Speaker 7: is pretty good too, but that was, frankly a college

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Speaker 7: football play in game. It just it feels like they're

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Speaker 7: trying to do too much. We hear that all the time.

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Speaker 7: You're doing too much, do it too much. They tried

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Speaker 7: to do too much. They tried to get too cute

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Speaker 7: with the buys. We need to say bye bye to

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Speaker 7: the buys.

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Speaker 4: Or bye bye bye and see bye bye bye that going.

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Speaker 4: But I understand the thinking. You wanted more more variety, right, That's.

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Speaker 5: Why they did this got too cute.

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Speaker 4: If you look at the top four, it's two SEC

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Speaker 4: teams and two Big ten teams. One through four is Oregon, Georgia, Texas,

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Speaker 4: Penn State.

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Speaker 5: Those four teams are bus.

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Speaker 4: They do, absolutely they do, and that should be the

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Speaker 4: top four seeds in this college football playoff. But they

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Speaker 4: looked at it and they said, well, we don't want

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Speaker 4: two teams from the SEC or two teams from the

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Speaker 4: Big ten.

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Speaker 3: We don't have any acc we don't have a dash

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Speaker 3: of Big twelve. You know, we don't have a helping

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Speaker 3: of group of five.

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Speaker 4: And so they tried to open it up a little

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Speaker 4: bit more, and it bit them. It bit them because

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Speaker 4: what you get is when you actually plug those teams

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Speaker 4: in and after an entire season, you can see how

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Speaker 4: unfair the format is to the teams. That achieved the most,

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Speaker 4: like two teams that achieved the least based on the

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Speaker 4: twelve they're in. One is Clemson, they're ranked number sixteen,

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Speaker 4: and the other one is Arizona State, who's ranked number twelve.

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Speaker 3: And somehow Arizona State has a buye. How they're not even.

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Speaker 4: In the top ten and they're one of the four

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Speaker 4: teams with the buye. It's lunacy. It has to change immediately.

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Speaker 6: It just also devalues ranking these teams in the first place.

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Speaker 1: Like ye, the seeding doesn't really matter.

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Speaker 6: Here's the reason why I'm already cheerleading expansion and why

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Speaker 6: I think they got it so wrong in college football

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Speaker 6: with this new playoff bracket is because why is college

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Speaker 6: hoops so exciting? Because it really feels like you get.

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Speaker 1: To know a Cinderella.

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Speaker 6: So when you have a one taking on a sixteen

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Speaker 6: seed or two taking on a fifteen, and somehow that

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Speaker 6: fourteen topples a three and they win.

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Speaker 1: Their next round game in the lead eight, and.

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Speaker 6: All of a sudden, you're like, oh my goodness, we

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Speaker 6: need to start paying attention to dot dot dot. Say

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Speaker 6: it's Boise State, say it's SMU, Say it's Clemson. Whoever,

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Speaker 6: because we did not expect them to survive. But here

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Speaker 6: are the Cincinnati Bearcats. Like the point being, that's what

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Speaker 6: makes the college basketball postseason so unique and special. That's

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Speaker 6: why the brackets, literally the piece of paper we all

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Speaker 6: used to hold when we were in high school and

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Speaker 6: now all the daily fantasy apps that everybody holds in

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Speaker 6: their hands during college hoops postseason is so important to

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Speaker 6: you because it actually means something.

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Speaker 1: The problem with college football.

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Speaker 6: Is they've completely devalued their postseason by adding way too

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Speaker 6: much subjectivity and loopholes. Just make this straight up. We're

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Speaker 6: seeding you one through sixteen. We're gonna play this out

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Speaker 6: like an actual tournament, and we're gonna see who the

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Speaker 6: champ is and guess what, you'll have better ratings, more interest,

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Speaker 6: and you can actually print out a damn bracket that

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Speaker 6: makes sense when you look at it. I can't wait

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Speaker 6: for them to spend and I hope they don't screw

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Speaker 6: it up when they do.

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Speaker 4: Yeah no, no, I hear you on that, Rich and

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Speaker 4: we'll see it seems like it's gonna go to fourteen

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Speaker 4: before sixteen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but they might screw up fourteen also, and they will.

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Speaker 7: It'll give the twenty team a bye, and when we

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Speaker 7: get the fourteen there instead of the instead of the twelve.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll say super fast because we're up against it.

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Speaker 3: But like think of March madness.

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Speaker 4: You got me thinking, Rich, Remember like the play in

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Speaker 4: game where it's like sixteen versus sixteen. Yeah, imagine if

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Speaker 4: the winner gotta buy, they didn't face the number one seed,

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Speaker 4: they gotta buy past that round to the next round.

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Speaker 4: That's essentially what happened with Arizona State.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 4: Correct, It's like, what makes no sense. It makes no

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Speaker 4: sense at all, at all at all. It's crazy. But

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Speaker 4: we've got Rich orn Berger Penn State, all American. That

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Speaker 4: makes sense. We've got Jared Smith FSR, betting analyst, that

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Speaker 4: makes sense for him to be on the show. Also,

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Speaker 4: I'm Brian, No, that makes no sense. I'm kidding when

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Speaker 4: the show as well.

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Speaker 3: All right, Coming up next the parlay platter.

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Speaker 4: We each have one selection, we pull it together for

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Speaker 4: a greater payout. We'll share our picks with you. Coming up,

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Speaker 4: it's Fox Sports Radios Countdown to Kickoff presented by BETMGM.

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Speaker 4: bonus bets or converted to MGM rewards points that could

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Speaker 4: twenty MGM resorts.

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Speaker 3: All let's do this.

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Speaker 2: Check this out, parlay ladder.

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Speaker 4: Ah, Yes, the platter over here, And there's a theme

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Speaker 4: we go back to last week when Jared said this

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Speaker 4: tutty time. Maybe you just run it back here today

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Speaker 4: as well, Right.

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Speaker 2: Jared, the tody time, it's toudy time.

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Speaker 7: I think this might be And I know we've kind

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Speaker 7: of gone through a few iterations.

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Speaker 5: Of the platter over time. Right, this is your three

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Speaker 5: of the show.

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Speaker 7: I think this might be a one we stick with

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Speaker 7: for a while. I really like Tuddy time, at least through.

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Speaker 5: Of course football season.

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Speaker 7: We'll have to figure something out when we get to

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Speaker 7: the basketball season. But I am targeting this Bill's Lions

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Speaker 7: game makes sense. Highest total of the week should be

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Speaker 7: multiple touchdowns.

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Speaker 5: On both sides. But I think the sun God will

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Speaker 5: be shining bright here. I'm on Ralph Saint Brown.

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Speaker 7: He is a coin flip to score a touchdown even

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Speaker 7: though it's puls one hundred and he's already scored nine.

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Speaker 5: Times this year. That's the second most in the NFL

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Speaker 5: for receivers.

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Speaker 7: Hasn't found the end zone though, in three games, so

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Speaker 7: we could say he's due. His last touchdown was against

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Speaker 7: the Jags that's blowout in Week eleven. But he has

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Speaker 7: scored a touchdown in eight of his thirteen games played

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Speaker 7: this year. That is more than half. And we get

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Speaker 7: this at a coin flip price. So I love I'm

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Speaker 7: on Ralph Saint Brown the first tidy time in the parloft.

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Speaker 6: I like Jalen Hurts, so he's one of the league's

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Speaker 6: leaders in rushing touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: They're hosting the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 6: You know that means it's gonna be tough times as

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Speaker 6: you get closer and closer to the goal line, which

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Speaker 6: is where Jalen Hurts his number gets called because they

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Speaker 6: still do the toush push they've been executing and Saquon

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Speaker 6: Barkley as a pension of getting the ball all the

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Speaker 6: way down to the two or one yard line and

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Speaker 6: then it's Jalen Hurts time. So give me Hurts, Adam

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Speaker 6: to the parlay it's touddy time, Toddy.

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Speaker 3: Time, all right.

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Speaker 4: I will go with that Bill's Lions game that Jared

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Speaker 4: started talking about. Give me Lions running back David Montgomery.

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Speaker 4: Now he's minus won fifty five at bet MGM. So

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Speaker 4: I don't love the juice, but in terms of a parlay,

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Speaker 4: that's the time to use it, right, And I just

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Speaker 4: see David Montgomery.

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Speaker 3: I go back to that Bill's loss.

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Speaker 4: Remember earlier in the season at Baltimore and Baltimore just

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Speaker 4: punish them between the tackles, that physical running style with

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Speaker 4: Derrick Henry. I think you're gonna get a heavy dose

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Speaker 4: of David Montgomery and from the five yard line in

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Speaker 4: this dude, this is just so hard to tackle. So

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Speaker 4: I see David Montgomery scoring a touchdown in this game.

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Speaker 5: I don't like.

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Speaker 3: That we're on the same team, Jared.

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Speaker 4: You know it could still happen, could absolutely still come through.

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Speaker 7: It absolutely could because the Lions team total in the

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Speaker 7: game is in the high twenties, right, you get the

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Speaker 7: Lions slight favorite in the game. The totals at fifty

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Speaker 7: four and a half, so they are expected to score.

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Speaker 7: I would say I would bet the touchdown prop for

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Speaker 7: the Lions is three and.

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Speaker 5: A half, so they're definitely expected to score three touchdowns.

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Speaker 7: I don't see any reason why Montgomery can't score two

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Speaker 7: in bat. One of my buddies, Brad Evans, calls a

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Speaker 7: mandatory Montgomery because it just he always seems to find

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Speaker 7: the end zone. But if you combine these together, right,

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Speaker 7: a bit of a nuance with the parlay, it's a

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Speaker 7: same game parlay with a Monra and Montgomery, and then

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Speaker 7: we tack on Jalen Hurts in the bet MGM's year.

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Speaker 5: We call that an SGP plus. I don't know why

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Speaker 5: they call it a plus. I guess you can kind

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Speaker 5: of figure it out, but that's just what they call it.

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Speaker 7: Plus five eighty nine on the ops almost six to one.

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Speaker 1: Not bad.

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Speaker 7: I think that's a pretty decent, tunny time parlay for

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Speaker 7: your Sunday.

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Speaker 6: I also, like, you know, because even though it's the Lions,

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Speaker 6: you're both on that side. The Bills have been in

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Speaker 6: a couple of shootouts, one earlier in the season with

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Speaker 6: the Cardinals and then was it the Rams a couple

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Speaker 6: of weeks ago, where last week forty four forty two, Yeah,

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Speaker 6: freaking crazy, it was last week they I mean so

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Speaker 6: so it could happen again.

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Speaker 1: I mean and the Lions.

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Speaker 6: The Lions have been in a couple of shootouts, so

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Speaker 6: let's see a lot of touchdowns in that game. And

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Speaker 6: all I need is really one in that Philadelphia Eagles Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 1: Steelers game, and then we're just off to the race,

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Speaker 1: just cashing.

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Speaker 5: Checks this Manday time.

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Speaker 4: I also think about long shot touchdown scorers.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, give me one, what do you got?

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Speaker 4: Maybe maybe like Stone Smart of the Chargers. With Will

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Speaker 4: Disley being out, you get twenty to one.

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Speaker 5: Sounds like a smart bet to Bead McConkey. Still, lad, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I don't know what's going on in then that's actually

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Speaker 5: a tough game to cap because of my conky.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, interesting stuff over there, all right, if you my

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Speaker 4: Will Disley horror story around the corner.

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Speaker 3: And also little Army Navy action.

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Speaker 4: Welcome in here as we get just set for some

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Speaker 4: college football action and then Week fifteen of the NFL.

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Speaker 4: You know, we just did our tuddy time parlay platter

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Speaker 4: last segment, and it just it gave me nightmares of

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Speaker 4: what happened last week. I was on the Will Disley train.

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Speaker 4: This was Sunday night football. Well you were there Jared, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I bet.

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Speaker 7: Is over in a bunch of different ways. Gosh didn't

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Speaker 7: turn out.

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Speaker 5: Well for us. It's brutal.

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Speaker 4: So if you missed it the cliffs Notes version over here,

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Speaker 4: So what'd you get it at?

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Speaker 3: Like forty four and a half somewhere?

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Speaker 7: I think I've got a ladder too, which made it

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Speaker 7: even worse with multiple bets.

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Speaker 4: Made all the sentence world right, kids City. They don't

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Speaker 4: do a good job guarding tight ends this season. Will Disley,

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Speaker 4: no lad McConkey. Last week, it's like Herbert's gonna target

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Speaker 4: Will Disley and he ain't get much action in the

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Speaker 4: first half, but right before halftime there's like, I don't know,

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Speaker 4: four or five seconds left, Herbert just drops it off

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Speaker 4: to Will Disley, go ahead run for fifteen yards. And

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Speaker 4: for you and I, Jared, it looked great until he

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Speaker 4: got thrown down on his shoulder and he didn't play

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Speaker 4: another down the rest of the night. And you're watching

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Speaker 4: Stones Smart, the backup tight end, catch three passes for

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Speaker 4: fifty four yards. Every time he caught a pass. I'm like,

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Speaker 4: that would be Will Disley right now. We would have

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Speaker 4: gotten there.

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Speaker 1: Oh.

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Speaker 3: The injury bug on over props is just the worst.

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Speaker 1: It ill bad.

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Speaker 6: It is because also it can be a situation where

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Speaker 6: a guy lands hard on his shoulder middle point of

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Speaker 6: the second quarter, and then they ease him back in

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Speaker 6: after halftime.

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Speaker 1: It's just you can, you can. It doesn't even have

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Speaker 1: to be.

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Speaker 6: A situation where you're taking out of the game, taken

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Speaker 6: out of the action for the rest of the game.

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Speaker 1: It could just be.

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Speaker 6: As simple as slowing down the stat line. So yeah,

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Speaker 6: those props, man, it's you gotta be a little brave,

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Speaker 6: especially with some of those ladder props.

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Speaker 5: The ladders. I love a good Louis k What is

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Speaker 5: it in the game of throat Chaos?

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Speaker 1: Is a ladder? Like?

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Speaker 7: It's just it's one of my favorite speeches in that

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Speaker 7: entire show. No, the prop market, and I don't bet

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Speaker 7: a ton of props, at least I don't give out

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Speaker 7: a ton of props. I do like handicapping the games

858
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 7: themselves and kind of the market and how the sides

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00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 7: and totals are impacted by all of the other injuries

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Speaker 7: and storylines and everything that we talk about on a

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Speaker 7: weekly basis. The prop market, though, if you were gonna

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Speaker 7: ask me, all right, Jared, I have a thousand bucks,

863
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Speaker 7: I'm gonna start my gambling journey.

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Speaker 5: What should I focus on every single day?

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Speaker 7: I would tell you props, because I think the market

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00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 7: is more beatable than sides and totals. But you put

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Speaker 7: yourself in those types of situations more often than not.

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Speaker 7: And that's why I like spreading out, Like I like

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Speaker 7: if I was a prop better, if I really was like,

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Speaker 7: all right, I'm just gonna bet props and nothing else,

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Speaker 7: like it's all we're gonna do, I would have at

872
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,800
Speaker 7: least ten to fifteen prop bets on every game because

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Speaker 7: I would like map out the script and then bet

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Speaker 7: the script via the prop market. Instead of thinking, here's

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Speaker 7: how I think the script is gonna go. Let's bet

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00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,839
Speaker 7: the Giants to cover, which I wouldn't do that much

877
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 7: this year, but you get the point. I would just

878
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 7: bet the script, like, hey, I think the Giants offensive

879
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 7: line has an edge here, so we're gonna bet the

880
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 7: running back props over. Or I think the secondary for

881
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 7: this team is bad, so let's bet the receiver props over.

882
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 7: And I would blanket because Thissley happens and then you're screwed.

883
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,919
Speaker 3: Yeah that's rough, right there, man.

884
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 4: And it's the opposite if you're That's what's kind of

885
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 4: weird about the prop market to one of the things

886
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 4: that are weird. And trust me, I love the market itself,

887
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 4: but every now and then it makes you.

888
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 3: Tear your hair out.

889
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 4: If you're on over will Disley yardage and he has

890
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 4: this random fluke shoulder injury before halftime and he's out

891
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 4: for the rest of the game, You're like, really, now,

892
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,879
Speaker 4: if you're on the under, you cast your ticket immediately,

893
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 4: And that's kind of weird. That's the weird part where

894
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 4: it's not like you want to start high five in

895
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 4: your buddy's like, shoulder injury, baby, Yeah it was one

896
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 4: of our outs, right, Like, it's kind of odd. But yeah,

897
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 4: there are times where you get home specifically because an

898
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 4: injury occurs. Otherwise you would have been wrong. That's what's

899
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 4: weird about the prop bet market. Okay, we get to

900
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 4: Army Navy here today and looking forward to it, I

901
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 4: think this is do you want to brand this as

902
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,359
Speaker 4: the two teams who got waxed by Notre Dame?

903
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 3: Is that how you want to build this matchup? Yeah,

904
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 3: that's right.

905
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 4: And then also what stands out to me, Army quarterback

906
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 4: Bryson Daily, this stat We know how special Ashton gent

907
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 4: has been for State, right He's a Heisman Trophy finalist.

908
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 4: Twenty nine touchdowns this season for Ashton genty that's the

909
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 4: same number of rushing touchdowns as Army quarterback Bryce and

910
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 4: day Low. That's pretty remarkable, is it not?

911
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 1: It is? It really is.

912
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 6: And this is actually a fun one, or more fun

913
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 6: than some years past, because you have a situation where

914
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 6: both these teams are pretty good. You know what I mean,

915
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 6: you look at the records. You have a what is

916
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 6: an eleven win Army team taking on an eight win

917
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 6: Navy team? If I have the records, crip, that's that's

918
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 6: It's just it's I don't know, listen, does.

919
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: It really matter?

920
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 6: No, because the pomp and circumstance and just a quick sidebar,

921
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 6: I mean, the sacrifice that our uniformed men and women

922
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,439
Speaker 6: making this country to protect us so we can goof

923
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 6: around on sports talk radio. I mean, it is a

924
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 6: sacrifice that is a beautiful one and the reason why

925
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 6: we live so free and so alongside the football, we're

926
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 6: gonna celebrate those brave souls on the field who are

927
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 6: gonna protect us. But yeah, I mean, it makes it,

928
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 6: It makes it even more interesting. It makes it all

929
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 6: the better when there's some national interest in the players,

930
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 6: and also the fact that these teams are good, like

931
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 6: we're gonna see some pretty good football out there today.

932
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, and I'm glad you mentioned the wins, Rich because

933
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 7: it's a historic game. Nineteen combined wins is the most

934
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 7: ever entering this matchup ever, so these are and I

935
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 7: know Army and Navy have had successful seasons in years past,

936
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 7: they played fewer games, so you have to take that

937
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 7: stat for what it is. And I know they won

938
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 7: national championships of course back in the day, and then

939
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 7: you know the new Rockney era, and so again there

940
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 7: was more on the line in those days in terms

941
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 7: of football acumen and prowess and championships. But I think

942
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 7: in terms of the modern day Army Navy game, this

943
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 7: is probably the most the best matchup we've had of

944
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 7: these teams and the success that they've had on the field.

945
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 5: But you also alluded to the.

946
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 7: Pomp and circumstance, which I love that phrase because as

947
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 7: much as this game is a football game, it means

948
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 7: a lot more.

949
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 5: And I'm a bit nostalgic, getting.

950
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,320
Speaker 7: A little older, a little more conservative in my older

951
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 7: age hair as I approached forty. But to me, this

952
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,760
Speaker 7: game is on the bucket, like I need to attend

953
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 7: this game at some point in my life. I will

954
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:34,280
Speaker 7: not consider my life complete as a sports fan unless

955
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 7: I attend this game in person and actually see what transpires.

956
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 7: It is from what I've heard from people who have

957
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 7: attended it covered it, it is everything you could possibly

958
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:47,280
Speaker 7: ask for in terms of just representing what this country

959
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 7: is and how difficult college sports can be. And then

960
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 7: you throw on the fact that they have to go

961
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 7: represent their country and go protect their country, and that

962
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 7: added level of responsibility I think gives this game so

963
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 7: much more meaning. As for the game itself, I think

964
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 7: we're gonna have more offense this year, guys, I honestly do.

965
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 5: I hope we do, because I bet the over in

966
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:06,919
Speaker 5: the game.

967
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 7: These teams have been offensively challenged in years past, but

968
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:13,439
Speaker 7: that's not the case this year.

969
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 5: In fact, I did some of the stats.

970
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 7: How about this army Last year averaged twenty and a

971
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 7: half points per game, three hundred and eleven yards per game,

972
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 7: four point six yards per play. This year we're up

973
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 7: to thirty three points per game, almost four hundred yards

974
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 7: per game. Six point two yards per play.

975
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 5: Navy's almost doubled.

976
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 7: How about that Navy went from seventeen points per game

977
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 7: last year to thirty two points per game this year.

978
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 5: Just, I mean, talk about a renovation.

979
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 7: And Drew Kronik, their offensive coordinators, nominated for the Broyles

980
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 7: Award as the nation's.

981
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 5: Top assist and he's done such a good job.

982
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 7: I think this is gonna be an awesome football game,

983
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 7: not just because of that pomping circumstance, but I think

984
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 7: there's some really good players on the field and we're

985
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:50,399
Speaker 7: gonna have some offense in this game.

986
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 5: So give y up.

987
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 4: Maybe you know it's funny you start talking about maybe

988
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 4: you're like your bucket list type thing, like wanting to

989
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 4: go see Army Navy. Thought about it until you said that, Jared,

990
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 4: Where what if you did the opposite, where whatever your

991
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 4: list is, one of the experiences that you could take

992
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 4: off of the list and it wouldn't.

993
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 3: Have it wouldn't hurt you at all. Like, you know,

994
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 3: I went to this game and man, it was a dud.

995
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 4: You know, if I could if I couldn't.

996
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, if I could trade.

997
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 4: That experience for something else like whatever.

998
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 7: When sakwon Barkley returned the opening kick for a touchdown,

999
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 7: and I blew a three touchdown lead in the fourth quarter.

1000
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 3: Yeat, okay, you would trade that in.

1001
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 5: I would trade that out for Army Navy right now.

1002
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:34,280
Speaker 4: You would pawn that game, right and whatever cash? Yeah

1003
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 4: for Army and Navy.

1004
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 3: But no, I hear you. Like listen, Army.

1005
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 4: Has been really good this season and Navy has had

1006
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 4: a good year too. And there are some years where

1007
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 4: you look at the records. Both you guys have made

1008
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 4: this point.

1009
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 3: You look at the.

1010
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 4: Records and you're like, oh my gosh, we gotta sell

1011
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 4: this four and eight Army team versus like three and

1012
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 4: nine Navy or like these teams have been good this season. Yeah,

1013
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:01,839
Speaker 4: And it reminded me this is years go but soon

1014
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 4: to be president again. Donald Trump, he was at an

1015
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 4: Army Navy game and like he's being interviewed and he's

1016
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 4: trying to say nice things, and this is all he

1017
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:10,720
Speaker 4: could say about the game.

1018
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know if it's necessarily the best football,

1019
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 6: but it's very good.

1020
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 1: But but do they have spirit? They have spirit?

1021
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 5: You got spirit?

1022
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 1: Yes, you do?

1023
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1024
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 1: Got spirit.

1025
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 4: I don't know if this is any good, but man,

1026
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:25,359
Speaker 4: they're trying, man, they are.

1027
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 3: They're giving it the old college try. That's all he had.

1028
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 4: But you can actually say this is actually good quality football.

1029
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:33,879
Speaker 5: Yep.

1030
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 4: I mean it's not gonna like drop your jaw, but

1031
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 4: it's going to be better than it has been in

1032
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 4: other instances.

1033
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 3: These are good teams.

1034
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Army.

1035
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 6: I think they kind of went through a mid season

1036
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 6: rebirth a little bit, you know, they they they toiled

1037
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 6: a little bit there, but pulled it together nicely. They

1038
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 6: seem slightly different than they were when they started this

1039
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,359
Speaker 6: season in terms of Navy if you look at them

1040
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 6: and maybe a little bit of the same story. They're

1041
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:04,280
Speaker 6: definitely a different team, like many teams late this season

1042
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 6: than they were to start with. But this offense over

1043
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 6: the offseason changed in a big way. Obviously still employing

1044
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 6: you know, option offense, but the hybrid offense, the play

1045
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 6: action pass game has really really helped them pile up

1046
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 6: some points when they need to. That first six game

1047
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 6: run they went on was insane. I mean they were

1048
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 6: just scoring fifty points. It felt like every week they

1049
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 6: won six in a row. So again, like you said,

1050
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 6: we're actually gonna see offense, and I think that's been

1051
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 6: hallmark of this game. Army Navy plays, Hey, we're gonna

1052
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 6: bet the under, We're gonna salute the troops, we're gonna

1053
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 6: move on with our day. But with two teams who have,

1054
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 6: like Jared pointed out, had more wins combined than at

1055
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 6: any point we've ever seen in this matchup, this is

1056
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 6: going to be one of those those celebrations not only

1057
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 6: of the bravery of the literal kids on the field

1058
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 6: who have signed up for for a length of time

1059
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:16,359
Speaker 6: to protect us, but also a pretty dang good football game.

1060
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 6: So it's more than we can say in years past.

1061
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 6: It's not just about spirit this time. It's it's about

1062
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 6: some serious bragging rights, some serious bragging rights.

1063
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,439
Speaker 7: I really hope they interview Trump again and he hits

1064
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,839
Speaker 7: a chance to you know, I don't want to say

1065
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 7: amend his original opinion. His original opinion was correct on

1066
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 7: the game. It was very spirited. It wasn't great football

1067
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 7: that year he watched. I hope he gets a chance

1068
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 7: to talk about how great the football is this year,

1069
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:46,800
Speaker 7: because it really has been fantastic. There was a point

1070
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 7: early in the year where I was kicking myself just

1071
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 7: for not betting Army Navy just bet Army Navy. Every

1072
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 7: week you're gonna win, you're gonna cover. That was the

1073
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 7: vibe very early in the year. And as they do,

1074
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 7: defenses a jost right, they managed up in schedule.

1075
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 5: Again, it's Notre Dame and you saw all right.

1076
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 7: You know they're good against Air Force and UAB and

1077
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 7: Temple and Charlotte, but they're not great against.

1078
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 5: The big boys.

1079
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 7: But also then injuries became a big factor just because

1080
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 7: of the style that these two teams play play. Corback

1081
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 7: has been in and out of the lineup. He says

1082
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,800
Speaker 7: he's healthy, so that is an important part of this game.

1083
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 7: He's had two weeks off. Of course, Army had to

1084
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 7: play last week. Bryson Daily also dealing with an injury.

1085
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 7: He looked healthy last week, but we'll get to it

1086
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 7: in the prop segment. I think there's another runner on

1087
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 7: Army's team that, because of the Bryson Daily injury, is

1088
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 7: probably somebody you should focus on today. But I'm just

1089
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:35,879
Speaker 7: excited to, you know, sit back and watch this one.

1090
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 7: It's a standalone game noon Pacific. Nothing else going on

1091
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 7: besides the college Basketball card today and a couple of

1092
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 7: those FCS games. But just in general, the market has

1093
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 7: responded to these teams. Like last year, this total was

1094
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 7: twenty eight. I repeat that, the total in this game

1095
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 7: last year was twenty eight. It landed right on the

1096
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 7: total because of a safety on the last play. Go

1097
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 7: back and watch the last sequence of the final drive

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00:53:58,120 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 7: of last year's game.

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Speaker 5: It was an awesome finish.

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00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 7: But we've seen an eleven point adjustment on the total

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00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 7: now of thirty nine, and I don't know if it's

1102
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,720
Speaker 7: a big enough adjustment. I think you know, the average

1103
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 7: total in this game over the last twenty years.

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00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 5: Has been about forty five.

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00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 7: I frankly think that's where the total should be this year,

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00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:15,959
Speaker 7: definitely in the low forty, So I think we're gonna

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Speaker 7: see more points.

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Speaker 5: I think the over is the way.

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Speaker 1: To play it.

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Speaker 4: It's just funny, man, when you start. I'm sure you

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00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 4: guys feel the same way. Sometimes when you're breaking down

1112
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 4: a game, you can get lost in the weeds.

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00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 3: And sometimes that's a good thing.

1114
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 4: Sometimes it's a bad thing, because every now and then

1115
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:34,320
Speaker 4: a game is surface level. Yeah, and if you start

1116
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 4: with the surface level, Army can run the ball really well.

1117
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 4: Navy cannot stop the rush very well. Like Navy, you

1118
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:47,359
Speaker 4: start with that how's Navy against the rush because they're

1119
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 4: taking on Army. Well, they're ranked eighty third in rushing

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Speaker 4: yards allowed.

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Speaker 3: Whoa, that's that great.

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00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 4: They're actually ranked one hundredth in rushing success rate. That's

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00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:02,399
Speaker 4: Navy's defense. So slow down this Army running attack. They've

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00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 4: got their work cut out for them because Notre Dame

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00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,280
Speaker 4: ran it all up and down the field on Navy,

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00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 4: and Tulane rushed for over two hundred yards against Navy.

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Speaker 4: I say all of this and my dad was in

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Speaker 4: the Navy, you know, shout out to my pops over here.

1129
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Speaker 4: While if he's listening right now, you know, go.

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Speaker 5: Nate probably excited today.

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Speaker 7: This is I mean, I know, for the people that

1132
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Speaker 4: Like, yeahs oh, he's always into the Army Navy game

1135
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Speaker 4: every single year. But yeah, it's that's job number one

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Speaker 4: for Navy obviously is slowed down the rushing attack, and

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Speaker 4: all right, So Deon Sanders, Coach Prime he made some

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00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 4: headlines this week. His team is getting ready for the

1161
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:02,959
Speaker 4: Alamo Bowl, and he was asked, hey, are you gonna

1162
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 4: have any opt outs over here?

1163
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 1: Right?

1164
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 4: Is typically what we see this time of year, especially

1165
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 4: for teams that are not in the playoff. Coach Prime

1166
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 4: was basically saying, hey, we don't tap out. There's a

1167
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 4: certain player who might win the ht What am I

1168
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 4: saying is going to win the Heisman this week that

1169
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 4: will be playing. There's a certain quarterback who will be playing.

1170
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 4: Every senior, every NFL hopeful is going to suit up

1171
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 4: and play. And he's like, it's a privilege to play

1172
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 4: this game, and so we don't tap out. I love it,

1173
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:40,439
Speaker 4: and it's a it's a weird tightrope we're walking here

1174
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 4: right where. Yes, I understand if you're projected to be

1175
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:47,479
Speaker 4: a first round or a top ten pick and you're

1176
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,919
Speaker 4: literally risking millions of dollars should you suffer a big

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00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 4: time injury.

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00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 3: I get it why there are opt outs.

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00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 4: But at the same time, remember when Bryce Young did

1180
00:57:56,720 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 4: this at Alabama. He played a non playoff bowl game

1181
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 4: through like five touchdown passes and went on to be

1182
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 4: the number one overall pick. I just think sometimes we

1183
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 4: overstate how much risk or how much of a chance

1184
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 4: a player is taking by getting out on the field

1185
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 4: one more time, you know. And it's just funny to

1186
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 4: me where a lot of fans have complained over the

1187
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 4: years that players are just like all about the money

1188
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 4: and they don't care about the game or any and

1189
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 4: now we get players that actually show you they're caring

1190
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 4: about the sport, their teammates, the love of the game,

1191
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 4: all that good stuff, and people are calling them out

1192
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 4: for it, like why you're risking all your money?

1193
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 1: What's going on here?

1194
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 4: It's like they're doing what you want, and now you

1195
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:42,919
Speaker 4: have a problem with that too.

1196
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 3: There's no pleasing you. So I love what Colorado is doing.

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00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 4: I obviously hope there are no injuries at all, especially

1198
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 4: major injuries, But I think it's awesome that they're going

1199
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 4: out there and playing the game. That's I don't think

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00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 4: there's anything wrong with that whatsoever.

1201
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 6: It's it's the scene and gladiator, you know, are you

1202
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 6: not entertained?

1203
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 1: Are you not entertained?

1204
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 6: It's that's exactly what you're talking about. There is no

1205
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 6: pleasing everyone. There is no pleasing everyone. You could be

1206
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 6: a winner, but you didn't win the right way. You

1207
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 6: could be a loser, but you know what you should

1208
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 6: have won. It doesn't it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.

1209
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 6: So if you if your effort is to make sure

1210
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 6: that everyone loves you, you will spend your life trying

1211
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 6: to fill a bottomless void. It's not gonna work. It's

1212
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:39,920
Speaker 6: not gonna happen. Move on, find a different pursuit. Pursuit

1213
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 6: because that's a trivial pursuit. This is what what it

1214
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 6: should be. Get Get with your coach, Get with the

1215
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 6: people who love you the most. Speak to maybe some players,

1216
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 6: former collegiate players, uh and current pros who may have

1217
00:59:57,080 --> 01:00:00,080
Speaker 6: some advice for you, and some perspective for you, and

1218
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 6: some outlook for you that maybe you weren't thinking of.

1219
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 6: You know, since you've never done any of this before,

1220
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 6: reach out to people. Speak to the community. Because I'm

1221
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 6: telling you, as a former professional football player, if I

1222
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 6: had a college kid from Penn State, try to reach

1223
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 6: out to me because he wanted advice on what he

1224
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:22,440
Speaker 6: should do in a situation, it would be my pleasure

1225
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 6: to give.

1226
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 1: Him a little advice.

1227
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:27,479
Speaker 6: So find somebody who you can you know, grab great

1228
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 6: advice from, and and and find a lot of people

1229
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 6: who you can grab great advice from and make the

1230
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,920
Speaker 6: decision best for you. Deon Sanders is doing what Deon

1231
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 6: Sanders should do because it's it's almost like.

1232
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 1: A television show.

1233
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 6: A television show will say, hey, we are the top

1234
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 6: show in prime time. Well, you only say you only

1235
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 6: talk about ratings when you got him. It's not like

1236
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 6: if you're the twentieth place show on TV, you're gonna

1237
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 6: be like, hey, gang, we cracked the top twenty. Like, no,

1238
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 6: you're gonna stee away from that. So so this year,

1239
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 6: Dion has the buy in from the top players on

1240
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 6: his team. He's also related to one of them, so

1241
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 6: that helps. But he's got the buying. So that's the

1242
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 6: reason why he's talking about this. If Deon Sanders continues

1243
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 6: his collegiate coaching career next season, he's got a bunch

1244
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 6: of guys opting out of the bowl game that Colorado

1245
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 6: pears in. Do you think he's gonna be up there

1246
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 6: cheerleading the same way he is this year? The answer

1247
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 6: is no. But he's got the ratings. So he's talking

1248
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 6: about being number one in prime time and that's what

1249
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 6: Dion does best. He pounds his chest when it's good

1250
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:36,800
Speaker 6: for him, good for his football program, and we all

1251
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 6: know that, and so that is what he's doing. These

1252
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 6: players are making the best choice they feel for themselves,

1253
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:45,920
Speaker 6: and I think, you know, you could call it selfish

1254
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 6: or not, that's the state of the game, and they

1255
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 6: want to play.

1256
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:49,439
Speaker 1: They're gonna play.

1257
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 6: The next crop of Colorado Buffalo superstars to come out

1258
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 6: of that school may opt out of their bowl game,

1259
01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 6: and guess what, In my opinion, that's a good choice too,

1260
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 6: because it's their choice.

1261
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1262
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 7: I think true power in this case is the ability

1263
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 7: to control the outlook, not the outcome. And I think

1264
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 7: that that's where coach Prime's.

1265
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 5: Really good at being a coach.

1266
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 7: Agree, I think I think the mindset for him and

1267
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 7: how he translates that mindset to his players I think

1268
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 7: has led to this culture change with Colorado.

1269
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 5: Does that mean the rest.

1270
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 7: Of the sport will piggyback off of this and maybe

1271
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 7: be a little bit more aggressive with with how many

1272
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 7: players play during bowl season.

1273
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 5: That are not obviously college football playoff games.

1274
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 7: Maybe I could see the pendulum swinging back right like

1275
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 7: we were in a two year period there where it's

1276
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 7: like nobody was playing, and now we've had a couple

1277
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 7: of guys that have maybe kind of broken the picket line.

1278
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 7: And you know, Bryce Young, you mentioned that one that

1279
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 7: was a pretty big one, Brian, There's been a couple of.

1280
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 5: Other ones over time.

1281
01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 7: I think another big one is Colin McCord, the Syracuse

1282
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 7: quarterback announce actually live during like a charity event on

1283
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 7: local Syracuse TV that he was gonna be playing in

1284
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 7: their bowl game. So you're starting to get some big

1285
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 7: time in common courts supposed to be other than Shudur Sanders,

1286
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 7: one of the top quarterbacks in this class. So you're

1287
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 7: you're starting to see maybe the pendulum swing back right,

1288
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:20,320
Speaker 7: just like just like everything else, like.

1289
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 5: It, it goes and then it comes.

1290
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:26,240
Speaker 7: And I would not be shocked if more college football

1291
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 7: players grasped onto the nostalgia of playing in their last game,

1292
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 7: because again, true power is not the ability to control

1293
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 7: the outcome, but the outlook.

1294
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 5: And I think that's.

1295
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 7: Where college football needs a little bit more of a

1296
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 7: positive spin on this ball season, because over the last

1297
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 7: few years it's been negative. It has been very, very negative,

1298
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 7: and I think that's the to go back to your

1299
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 7: original point, Brian, like people almost don't know how to

1300
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 7: respond when they get what they want, Like we're crying

1301
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 7: for these guys to play, then they play.

1302
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 5: Like whoa, whoa, You're gonna actually play? That's crazy. And

1303
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 5: that's more about the indecision in the level of uh.

1304
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 7: I guess I'll call it insightfulness of our society as

1305
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 7: a whole. It could be a little shallow sometimes, but

1306
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 7: I applaud it, like whatever decision best suits you, I

1307
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:13,640
Speaker 7: applaud well.

1308
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:16,959
Speaker 4: And cam Ward from Miami he expected to play. Also,

1309
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 4: he could be a top five pick.

1310
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 5: How about that?

1311
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:22,680
Speaker 7: Three top quarterbacks in the draft, Sanders, Ward, and McCord

1312
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:23,600
Speaker 7: probably all gonna play.

1313
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:26,440
Speaker 6: That's I will say this though, And Brian, I'm curious

1314
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 6: your thoughts on this. Does it change how you feel

1315
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 6: about it if you know that they're making say, each

1316
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:35,120
Speaker 6: of them is gonna make a cool million for their

1317
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 6: appearance in the Bowl game. So this is less about

1318
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 6: hey school spirit, Hey man, it's for my teammates. Gosh,

1319
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 6: I love this coach. He's been like a father to me.

1320
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:48,560
Speaker 6: And it's more about you know what, through name, image

1321
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:51,440
Speaker 6: and likeness appearing in the Holiday Bowl.

1322
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 1: If you're Kyle McCord.

1323
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:56,920
Speaker 6: You're gonna make an extra five hundred thousand dollars because

1324
01:04:56,960 --> 01:05:00,760
Speaker 6: corporate sponsors have attached themselves to you like an race

1325
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 6: car driver. So I mean, does that change how you

1326
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 6: feel about it?

1327
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 3: Be no, no, no, it really doesn't.

1328
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:09,480
Speaker 4: Because listen, these guys are gonna go to the NFL

1329
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 4: and make way more than what they're gonna make in

1330
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 4: the bowl game. And I could play Devil's advocate and say, hey,

1331
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:17,600
Speaker 4: you're you're taking is.

1332
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:20,080
Speaker 3: The is the risk worth the reward?

1333
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:20,680
Speaker 1: Right?

1334
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 4: Like, if we're just looking at it dollars and cents wise,

1335
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 4: you could absolutely make the argument where whatever you're gonna

1336
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:29,920
Speaker 4: make five hundred k a million dollars this one game,

1337
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:32,680
Speaker 4: what if you suffer a big time injury and that

1338
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:35,480
Speaker 4: drastically hurts your draft stock, you're taking it on the

1339
01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 4: chin much more there. So just financially, the risk doesn't

1340
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 4: outweigh the reward for guys that are expected to be

1341
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 4: top draft picks. So this is for playing football. I

1342
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:48,880
Speaker 4: want to get out there with my guys. You know that,

1343
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 4: that's predominantly what it is. And hey, if you get

1344
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 4: an extra payday on top of it, great, But if

1345
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 4: these guys were maybe gonna be seventh round draft picks.

1346
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:02,200
Speaker 4: I would look at that a lot more getting paid

1347
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 4: in the bowl games. But when you know when Shador

1348
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 4: Sanders and cam Ward could easily be top five picks,

1349
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 4: I don't think that that registers as much the payday

1350
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 4: for the bowl game.

1351
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:17,600
Speaker 3: So yeah, I just think I think it's great.

1352
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:19,320
Speaker 4: I think it's great that they want to suit up

1353
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 4: and play, And again I would get it if they didn't,

1354
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 4: but it's cool that it's changed.

1355
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:27,200
Speaker 3: Where think of cam Ward in Miami, they were.

1356
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:30,480
Speaker 4: This close to a playoff berth and now they're not

1357
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 4: even in the playoff. He could easily say I'm a

1358
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:36,000
Speaker 4: top five pick, I don't have time for this, and

1359
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:38,520
Speaker 4: he's like, I'll be out there against Iowa State.

1360
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 5: I think he saw Gransfer too, so he has no

1361
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 5: affiliation in Miami besides this year.

1362
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 4: That's right, that's right. Now we go from that to

1363
01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:48,959
Speaker 4: a player who did tap out. So this is forty

1364
01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 4: nine Ers linebacker Devondre So this was Thursday Night Football

1365
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:58,520
Speaker 4: Niners taking on the Rams, and the backstory is so

1366
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:02,960
Speaker 4: Devondre cam he started twelve games this season and played

1367
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:07,919
Speaker 4: ninety percent of the defensive snaps and so Dre Greenlaw,

1368
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 4: another linebacker, he was back from injury. Finally on Thursday night,

1369
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 4: he suffered this fluke injury in the Super Bowl against

1370
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 4: the Chiefs where he's just running on the field and

1371
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 4: jacked up his achilles. So dev Andre Campbell had been

1372
01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:26,440
Speaker 4: playing all this time. Dre Greenlaw comes back, and now

1373
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 4: Defondre Campbell isn't playing anymore. So another linebacker gets hurt

1374
01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 4: and the Niners are like, hey, Campbell, you're in and

1375
01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:35,200
Speaker 4: Defandra Campbell's like.

1376
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:35,920
Speaker 5: No, I'm not.

1377
01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:39,000
Speaker 3: He's like, oh, now you need me.

1378
01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:41,600
Speaker 4: Huh, and he refused to go back in the game.

1379
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 4: That is the worst sin you can commit as an athlete.

1380
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 4: It's not just about you and not being on the field.

1381
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:52,200
Speaker 4: You're giving up on your teammates right there. And to

1382
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 4: hear what some of the Niners had to say after

1383
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:57,120
Speaker 4: the game, Wow, they did not.

1384
01:07:57,280 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 3: Hold anything back. This was George Kittle what he had done.

1385
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:00,280
Speaker 5: Say.

1386
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:03,360
Speaker 9: I don't like distractions on the sideline. I think that's ignorant,

1387
01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:07,400
Speaker 9: and I think it's just dumb. It's just stupid, and

1388
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 9: it's very immature, and I just don't I don't see

1389
01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:12,120
Speaker 9: how that's a I just don't see how you can

1390
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:12,920
Speaker 9: do something like that to.

1391
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:14,520
Speaker 1: You know, to your team.

1392
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:19,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, they called it dumb and stupid, a distraction. Tarvarius Ward,

1393
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:21,120
Speaker 4: he said, that's some sucker stuff.

1394
01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:23,759
Speaker 5: I heard that. Yeah, funny.

1395
01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:25,559
Speaker 3: It's probably get cut soon.

1396
01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 4: You normally don't hear teammates say things like that about

1397
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:33,400
Speaker 4: other teammates. But the Niners they were not feeling DeAndre

1398
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:36,519
Speaker 4: Campbell not going into that game and leaving the field early.

1399
01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:38,839
Speaker 4: That's the last time he'll suit up for the Niners.

1400
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 4: Wild You could speak to this better than anybody.

1401
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:41,639
Speaker 1: Rich.

1402
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:43,599
Speaker 3: What do you think of a teammate that just.

1403
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:45,639
Speaker 4: Refuses to go back in the game because he's got

1404
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:46,719
Speaker 4: to be for some reason.

1405
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:51,599
Speaker 6: It is the ultimate expression of selfishness. What the Devondre

1406
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:57,200
Speaker 6: Campbell did? You are a player on a team who

1407
01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 6: these opportunities are fleeting. You know, Brock Purdy is an

1408
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 6: example of a guy who he's the last pick of

1409
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 6: the draft. He got an opportunity, he made the most

1410
01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:11,880
Speaker 6: out of it, and he's the starting quarterback for a

1411
01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:14,720
Speaker 6: team that has visited the Super Bowl. Now, you know,

1412
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 6: this is a league of opportunity, and what he's doing

1413
01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:22,200
Speaker 6: is potentially stealing bread off the table of a teammate

1414
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 6: because he made that decision in game. There's only forty

1415
01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 6: six active players who can suit up every Sunday, every Thursday,

1416
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:34,680
Speaker 6: every Monday night, and so somebody else should have been

1417
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:37,880
Speaker 6: on that sideline, backing up the linebacker position instead of you,

1418
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:42,439
Speaker 6: de Andre, How dare you put on your helmet for

1419
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:46,439
Speaker 6: that game and steal bread off of your teammate's table.

1420
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:51,800
Speaker 6: It's it's when you said sin that's right. I mean,

1421
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:54,519
Speaker 6: this is this is damning, this is the stuff that

1422
01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:57,800
Speaker 6: ends careers. Is a young man and it's a young

1423
01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:01,519
Speaker 6: man's game, and young men make bad decisions. Young people

1424
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:04,400
Speaker 6: make bad decisions. So I hope he learns from it,

1425
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:08,680
Speaker 6: and I hope that he feels the weight of the decision,

1426
01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:13,440
Speaker 6: and I hope that if he if he is, you know, apologetic,

1427
01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:17,360
Speaker 6: if he is remorseful, that he's given a second chance

1428
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:20,719
Speaker 6: and he can continue playing throughout his career and have.

1429
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:22,880
Speaker 1: A successful career. I really do wish that for him.

1430
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:26,800
Speaker 6: But I hope he learns from this lesson, because that's

1431
01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 6: a big mistake, and that's one that there's gonna be

1432
01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:32,200
Speaker 6: a lot of pro personnel directors around the NFL going

1433
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:36,480
Speaker 6: not on our squad nope, not for a backup linebacker,

1434
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:39,559
Speaker 6: not for a teamer, not for a special teams guy, like,

1435
01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:41,680
Speaker 6: we don't got room on our roster for that kind

1436
01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 6: of attitude. So I hope it's not a career ender.

1437
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:48,320
Speaker 6: If he can learn from it, I hope he's remorseful.

1438
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:52,000
Speaker 6: But this is the height of selfishness, and he didn't.

1439
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:54,120
Speaker 6: He may not have realized all that in the moment,

1440
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:56,840
Speaker 6: but that's that's essentially what he did.

1441
01:10:57,080 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 1: And and by the.

1442
01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:00,200
Speaker 6: Way, he's on a team where a lot lot of

1443
01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:03,960
Speaker 6: guys are playing through some some stuff now, a lot

1444
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:06,439
Speaker 6: of injuries on this team, a lot of people playing

1445
01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:11,599
Speaker 6: through some personal turmoil that nobody expected. Look at Chavarius Ward,

1446
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:14,200
Speaker 6: what he's going through personally, lost a kid.

1447
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 1: Look at Trent Williams.

1448
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:19,679
Speaker 6: Still born birth him and his wife had to suffer

1449
01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 6: through this season. He's trying to fight his ass to

1450
01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:23,560
Speaker 6: get back on that football.

1451
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:24,160
Speaker 1: Field for his brothers.

1452
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:29,720
Speaker 6: Look at look at their first round draft pick, oh gosh, which.

1453
01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:33,160
Speaker 1: He was shot in the chest.

1454
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:35,439
Speaker 6: He fought his ass off to get on that field

1455
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:38,559
Speaker 6: that you refuse to go out on. Are you kidding me?

1456
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:43,639
Speaker 6: I mean, it is the height of selfishness. So again,

1457
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:47,559
Speaker 6: I hope he learns his lesson. I I don't understand it.

1458
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:51,040
Speaker 6: I I don't think many people can understand it, But

1459
01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 6: I hope he learned his lesson.

1460
01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was well said.

1461
01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:56,800
Speaker 7: And again I the player aspect of it and what

1462
01:11:56,840 --> 01:11:59,560
Speaker 7: you've gone through, Rich, I think is the perfect backdrop

1463
01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:03,800
Speaker 7: to this, because you've probably been hired to do some

1464
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:06,639
Speaker 7: gigs on the football field where you knew, all right,

1465
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:09,040
Speaker 7: I've got to I really gotta work hard here. And

1466
01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:12,080
Speaker 7: even if I work hard, when the starter comes back,

1467
01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:15,440
Speaker 7: or if I'm filling in for someone else, that starter.

1468
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:18,120
Speaker 5: Usually gets his job back, Like unless.

1469
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 7: You're Wally Pipped to Luke Garrett or Tom Brady to

1470
01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:23,760
Speaker 7: Drew Bledsoe, and like unless you're the greatest quarterback that's

1471
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:27,759
Speaker 7: ever lived, you are not going to keep that gig

1472
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:31,120
Speaker 7: after the starter comes back. So maybe there was some

1473
01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:34,120
Speaker 7: miscommunication when the Niner signed him and they said, hey,

1474
01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:36,840
Speaker 7: this is your job. But I'm betting on that not

1475
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:38,960
Speaker 7: being the case. I bet John Lynch looked him right

1476
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:41,479
Speaker 7: in the eyes and said, you are the placeholder for

1477
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:44,960
Speaker 7: Drake Greenlaw, and when Drake comes back, you were gonna

1478
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:46,320
Speaker 7: go back to the bench. Now, maybe you can go

1479
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:48,720
Speaker 7: play in another element, but you're not gonna keep that

1480
01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:52,839
Speaker 7: starting spot after dra comes back. I've thought a million

1481
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:56,679
Speaker 7: filling gigs in my life when the starter comes back.

1482
01:12:56,880 --> 01:12:59,479
Speaker 5: I've never kept one of those filling gigs. It's always

1483
01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:00,439
Speaker 5: gone back to the starter.

1484
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:05,320
Speaker 7: So again, unless you're Tom Brady, which Devondra Campbell is not. Yeah,

1485
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:07,559
Speaker 7: one of the one of the dumbest decisions he's probably made.

1486
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:08,840
Speaker 7: I'm sure he's regarding it today.

1487
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:09,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1488
01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:13,000
Speaker 4: And add to the list Fred Warner, another linebacker who's playing.

1489
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 3: With a fractured ankle.

1490
01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:14,400
Speaker 1: Yep.

1491
01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:19,639
Speaker 4: And I would love to hear Fred Warner's take on

1492
01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:21,920
Speaker 4: that after the game, where it's like, oh my.

1493
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:23,960
Speaker 7: God, well that's probably why the Niners push back so

1494
01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:25,800
Speaker 7: hard in the locker. Like you never hear that kind

1495
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:29,240
Speaker 7: of pushback from the players, right right, And a lot.

1496
01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:31,479
Speaker 4: Of times even the head coach he'll just be like, yeah,

1497
01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:34,280
Speaker 4: you know, vague, you don't get any specifics.

1498
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:35,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just one.

1499
01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:38,320
Speaker 4: Of those deals. What do you mean, one of those deals. Yeah,

1500
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:39,559
Speaker 4: just one of those deals, you know.

1501
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:41,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't even know.

1502
01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:43,720
Speaker 4: He was like, yeah, no, he decided he was gonna

1503
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:45,800
Speaker 4: go in the game. Yeah, that's that's what happened right

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1528
01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:03,080
Speaker 3: All right, let's do this.

1529
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:07,880
Speaker 2: Prop it up plays.

1530
01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 4: By the way, before the prop bets, when I just

1531
01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:17,200
Speaker 4: mentioned Jackpot, I've got a new leg tattoo, Rich, Oh yeah,

1532
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:19,840
Speaker 4: it was courtesy of Jared's dog, Jackpote.

1533
01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:22,040
Speaker 1: Real.

1534
01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:25,040
Speaker 7: Jackpot got so excited to meet Brian the other day

1535
01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:26,920
Speaker 7: and his nails are a little bit out of control

1536
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:27,320
Speaker 7: right now.

1537
01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:29,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, a little little scratcherinio there.

1538
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:32,519
Speaker 4: Oh man, I felt it at the time, and then

1539
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:34,599
Speaker 4: I looked at my leg and I'm like, wow, that's

1540
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:35,400
Speaker 4: gonna be there for.

1541
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:35,960
Speaker 3: A little while.

1542
01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 6: When I was at the sports book there in Vegas

1543
01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:42,600
Speaker 6: and Jared came down, I was hoping you brought Jackpot

1544
01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:47,160
Speaker 6: as his like emotional support animal, bring him to the

1545
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:49,479
Speaker 6: sports book. Actually, because he has he is a service

1546
01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:51,000
Speaker 6: dog when it comes to my bets. I'll tell you

1547
01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:52,960
Speaker 6: right now, I needed the service dog with all the

1548
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:55,760
Speaker 6: Tyson tickets I had for that Jake Palfie.

1549
01:15:57,320 --> 01:16:01,040
Speaker 7: I used the fodder as betting for Jack's cage with

1550
01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:03,360
Speaker 7: all the tickets that you rip. All right, let's try

1551
01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:07,719
Speaker 7: not to rip up this ticket with this prop. Kanye Udo,

1552
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:11,320
Speaker 7: he is the tail. He's the main running back on Army.

1553
01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:12,960
Speaker 7: You don't talk about him too much because we usually

1554
01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:15,160
Speaker 7: talk about Bryson Dally with the guy running the football.

1555
01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:19,240
Speaker 7: But Udo's coming off a huge AAC title game, a

1556
01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:23,160
Speaker 7: buff fifty eight, including a seventy two yard tuddy, and

1557
01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:25,320
Speaker 7: I want to give a big shout, right, it's called

1558
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:25,960
Speaker 7: prop it up.

1559
01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:28,240
Speaker 5: Let's give some props to Army.

1560
01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:31,840
Speaker 7: They are the winners of the Joe Moore Award, which

1561
01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:36,320
Speaker 7: is the nation's top offensive line. I did not have

1562
01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:38,759
Speaker 7: that on my Bengal card this year that Army would

1563
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:41,240
Speaker 7: win that award. But Bryson Daly is still maybe a

1564
01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:43,559
Speaker 7: little bit less than one hundred percent Udo's prop at

1565
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:45,080
Speaker 7: seventy two and a half yards.

1566
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 5: Navy can't stop the run. Kanye be a gold digger

1567
01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:51,719
Speaker 5: for that rushyards. Baby, Let's go over seventy two.

1568
01:16:51,680 --> 01:16:53,360
Speaker 1: And a half, all right, I like that one. How

1569
01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:54,080
Speaker 1: about this one?

1570
01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:58,679
Speaker 6: Bill's Lions Jamiir Gibbs, Lions running back. He's been getting

1571
01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:01,760
Speaker 6: a bunch of carriers starting to tick over as the

1572
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:06,200
Speaker 6: favorite running back in that backfield. Now, Montgomery's great, he's

1573
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:09,320
Speaker 6: a rain maker, especially near the goal line in the

1574
01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:13,000
Speaker 6: low red zone. But it's Jamiir Gibbs who I'm focused

1575
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:16,040
Speaker 6: on here with this sixty eight and a half rushing yards.

1576
01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:18,439
Speaker 6: Give me the over. Also, if you look at the

1577
01:17:18,479 --> 01:17:21,919
Speaker 6: Bills defense, I talked about it earlier, they've been involved

1578
01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:23,040
Speaker 6: in a couple of shootouts.

1579
01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:24,680
Speaker 1: Part of the reason why is.

1580
01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:27,479
Speaker 6: They have a hard time getting offenses off the field

1581
01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:28,599
Speaker 6: because they.

1582
01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:29,880
Speaker 1: Don't stop the run well.

1583
01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:33,840
Speaker 6: Running backs against the Bills averaging four point seven yards

1584
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:37,840
Speaker 6: per carry. Give me Jamiir Gibbs over that sixty eight

1585
01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:38,400
Speaker 6: and a half.

1586
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:46,240
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm gonna go to the Giants hosting the Baltimore Ravens,

1587
01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:49,800
Speaker 4: and I like the spot for a backup running back.

1588
01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:53,479
Speaker 4: And I'm looking at Justice Hill. I like his prop

1589
01:17:53,560 --> 01:17:56,719
Speaker 4: over fifteen and a half rushing yards. It just makes

1590
01:17:56,760 --> 01:18:00,640
Speaker 4: sense to me because I'm expecting the race to have

1591
01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:05,040
Speaker 4: a healthy lead. They're facing the Giants and Tommy Cutlet's right,

1592
01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:08,400
Speaker 4: Tommy DeVito is gonna get the start. So the Ravens

1593
01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:12,600
Speaker 4: favored by sixteen, they should have a comfortable lead and

1594
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:17,800
Speaker 4: Dereck Henry. He's been an absolute workhorse this season. If

1595
01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:20,280
Speaker 4: they're leading comfortably, they're not going to keep running him

1596
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:24,040
Speaker 4: into the ground. Even if they're not leading comfortably in

1597
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:26,160
Speaker 4: the first half, I could see Justice Hill getting a

1598
01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:28,120
Speaker 4: little bit of work here in there.

1599
01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:30,000
Speaker 3: The Giants can't stop the rush.

1600
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:34,400
Speaker 4: No Sexy Dexi Dexter Lawrence is on the shelf, so

1601
01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:37,040
Speaker 4: it makes sense to me the spot. I don't always

1602
01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:40,040
Speaker 4: love playing these backup runner running backs, but in a

1603
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:41,960
Speaker 4: spot like this, Giants.

1604
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:44,000
Speaker 3: Can't stop the rush should have a healthy lead.

1605
01:18:44,120 --> 01:18:46,800
Speaker 4: I think Justice Hill's gonna get enough opportunities to get

1606
01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:48,599
Speaker 4: over fifteen and a half rush yards.

1607
01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:50,120
Speaker 3: I'll take that prop here.

1608
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:51,240
Speaker 1: I don't have it.

1609
01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:54,200
Speaker 7: I am excited to bet a couple more overs in

1610
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:56,439
Speaker 7: this Army Navy game today. I think I'm gonna bet

1611
01:18:56,560 --> 01:19:00,200
Speaker 7: the Navy running back Texca Texca, I can't pronounce his name,

1612
01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:02,480
Speaker 7: Alex Tecza.

1613
01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:05,600
Speaker 5: Good luck pronouncing that one. His props at thirty one

1614
01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:08,439
Speaker 5: and a half. That's another guy that has really thrived

1615
01:19:08,439 --> 01:19:11,960
Speaker 5: in this new offense under under Drew Phonic and again

1616
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 5: with more bat a little banged up. You would imagine

1617
01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:17,120
Speaker 5: both quarterbacks are going to be Option A in the

1618
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:19,080
Speaker 5: run game, which means the defenses are also going to

1619
01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:20,840
Speaker 5: be king in so go running backs today for the

1620
01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:21,519
Speaker 5: Army Navy game.

1621
01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:21,760
Speaker 1: Game.

1622
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:25,559
Speaker 4: All right, good stuff coming up next, a little bowl

1623
01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:31,200
Speaker 4: pregame extravaganza. Oh, good morning, hope your Saturday is off

1624
01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:34,240
Speaker 4: to a great start. We do have some ball today,

1625
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:39,360
Speaker 4: Army Navy, couple of bowl games. Obviously NFL Week fifteen.

1626
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:44,000
Speaker 4: We will get to a a full breakdown, heavy breakdown

1627
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:47,879
Speaker 4: in about twenty minutes, but let's stick with college football

1628
01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:53,439
Speaker 4: here to start this hour full bawl preview. You know,

1629
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:57,360
Speaker 4: obviously the college football playoff games, but any other non

1630
01:19:57,400 --> 01:19:59,479
Speaker 4: playoff games that you.

1631
01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:01,840
Speaker 3: Know what the a little bit over here.

1632
01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:06,800
Speaker 4: Let's start with the college football playoff matchups, because next

1633
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:11,559
Speaker 4: Friday we get it going. We've got IU against Notre Dame.

1634
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:14,559
Speaker 4: So next Saturday, at this same time, it will either

1635
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:18,120
Speaker 4: be the happiest version of me or the saddest version

1636
01:20:18,160 --> 01:20:20,720
Speaker 4: of me, the most pankerous version of me.

1637
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:22,479
Speaker 5: You are you watching that game next Friday? Be you

1638
01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:23,960
Speaker 5: know you want to make some plans, want to hang out?

1639
01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:26,040
Speaker 3: I don't know if I can.

1640
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:29,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, I kind I was saying it almost tongue and

1641
01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:31,719
Speaker 7: cheek because I almost want to you you, it's almost

1642
01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:33,919
Speaker 7: like it's almost like going to an exhibited a museum

1643
01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:34,439
Speaker 7: and watching.

1644
01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:37,080
Speaker 4: I might be a nervous, rectoring negatve, but no, maybe

1645
01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:40,040
Speaker 4: maybe it we'll make something like that happen. But Notre

1646
01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:42,760
Speaker 4: Dame favored by eight and a half against I you,

1647
01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:46,360
Speaker 4: I'll tell you this, and I'm as diehard a Notre

1648
01:20:46,439 --> 01:20:49,759
Speaker 4: Dame fan as you're ever gonna see. But Notre Dame's

1649
01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:53,120
Speaker 4: passing game just worries me to no end. They were

1650
01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:57,439
Speaker 4: so bad to begin the season, and I just wonder.

1651
01:20:57,479 --> 01:21:00,640
Speaker 4: I don't think it trips them up against IU, but

1652
01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:03,720
Speaker 4: I you as more physical than you might give them

1653
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:04,360
Speaker 4: credit for.

1654
01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:07,559
Speaker 3: They can run the ball and they can stop the run.

1655
01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:10,519
Speaker 4: Some dismiss it and say, well, look at who they

1656
01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:14,840
Speaker 4: played against Michigan. They couldn't move the ball. Against Ohio State,

1657
01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:17,839
Speaker 4: they did nothing. Against teams with the polls, they did nothing,

1658
01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:21,639
Speaker 4: and so that could be the case against Notre Dame.

1659
01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:24,960
Speaker 4: But I just I worry about Notre Dame's passing attack.

1660
01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:28,080
Speaker 4: I expected a lot more passing wise from Riley Leonard.

1661
01:21:28,520 --> 01:21:30,640
Speaker 4: He can run it great, He's been a threat with

1662
01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:33,240
Speaker 4: his legs, but I think it trips him up at

1663
01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:35,800
Speaker 4: some point, the lack of a passing attack for Notre Dame.

1664
01:21:36,680 --> 01:21:41,559
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I'm excited obviously for Penn State SMU.

1665
01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:43,800
Speaker 6: I'm excited for the college football playoff just to see

1666
01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:46,400
Speaker 6: what it all looks like. But in terms of non

1667
01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:50,840
Speaker 6: college football playoff action that I'm interested in. I live

1668
01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:55,439
Speaker 6: in San Diego. Holiday Bowl, typically high scoring game, got

1669
01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:58,040
Speaker 6: the Koog's taking on the Syracuse Orange.

1670
01:21:58,080 --> 01:21:59,160
Speaker 1: So wazoo.

1671
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:04,280
Speaker 6: John Mattier, by the way, Washington State starting quarterback mulling

1672
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:05,760
Speaker 6: the transfer.

1673
01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:07,840
Speaker 1: Portal, So I'm not sure if.

1674
01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:11,519
Speaker 6: He's going to be heading up the Cougars football program

1675
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:12,479
Speaker 6: in that bowl game.

1676
01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:15,200
Speaker 1: We'll see dot dot dot to be continued.

1677
01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:18,840
Speaker 6: But if he ends up sticking around, maybe they pulled

1678
01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:23,160
Speaker 6: together some nil cash or whatever. This situation is there

1679
01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:27,280
Speaker 6: in Pullman and Kyle McCord. As you mentioned, he made

1680
01:22:27,320 --> 01:22:30,759
Speaker 6: the announcement he will be appearing in the bowl game.

1681
01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:34,920
Speaker 6: He'll he'll be playing in the Holiday Bowl for Syracuse.

1682
01:22:35,400 --> 01:22:39,439
Speaker 6: I think that could be one of the better bowl

1683
01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:44,200
Speaker 6: matchups because of the way these offenses match up, or

1684
01:22:44,240 --> 01:22:46,320
Speaker 6: I should say these teams. I think it's gonna be

1685
01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:49,799
Speaker 6: a shootout. I think it's gonna be a classic Holiday

1686
01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:52,799
Speaker 6: Bowl shootout. I think it's it's gonna be a fun watch.

1687
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:56,880
Speaker 6: I loved watching McCord sling it throughout the course of

1688
01:22:57,280 --> 01:23:00,360
Speaker 6: his season with Syracuse. I got to watch k John

1689
01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:03,680
Speaker 6: m Matteira was broadcasting one of his games during my

1690
01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:10,320
Speaker 6: college football analyst obligations this season, So it, yeah, to me,

1691
01:23:10,479 --> 01:23:13,760
Speaker 6: that feels like a game I'm gonna be specifically interested in.

1692
01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:14,320
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1693
01:23:14,360 --> 01:23:16,559
Speaker 7: One of the higher totals in bolseason two is that

1694
01:23:16,720 --> 01:23:19,840
Speaker 7: Qus Washington State game, sixty one and a half, and

1695
01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:23,559
Speaker 7: that's you know, I know that doesn't sound crazy, but

1696
01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:25,680
Speaker 7: in this day and age of college football, that is

1697
01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:26,920
Speaker 7: a relatively high total.

1698
01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:29,759
Speaker 5: So the market certainly agrees with you as well.

1699
01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:33,640
Speaker 7: There actually is one game I'm intrigued for because I

1700
01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:36,280
Speaker 7: think it is two teams that are kind of on

1701
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:38,880
Speaker 7: the rise and we're not talking, well, we talked about

1702
01:23:38,920 --> 01:23:40,320
Speaker 7: one of the actually we talked about both of them

1703
01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:42,960
Speaker 7: a couple times this year, and it's the Birmingham Bowl.

1704
01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:45,040
Speaker 7: It's actually the same day as the Holiday Bowl, December

1705
01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:45,719
Speaker 7: twenty seventh.

1706
01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:47,240
Speaker 5: Georgia Tech and Vandy.

1707
01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:50,479
Speaker 7: Really good game, right, tight line, tight spread, two and

1708
01:23:50,520 --> 01:23:52,960
Speaker 7: a half Georgia Tech's a slight favorite in the game.

1709
01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:55,840
Speaker 7: We've seen Georgia Tech pull off big upsets this year

1710
01:23:55,840 --> 01:23:58,960
Speaker 7: over Miami, almost over Georgia. We've seen Vandy just play

1711
01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:02,240
Speaker 7: everybody in the SEC tough, and I'm always interested to

1712
01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:06,439
Speaker 7: see if the teams that kind of spark this new

1713
01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:10,040
Speaker 7: age of the program. Brent Key has done an unbelievable

1714
01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:14,080
Speaker 7: job at Georgia Tech, and Clark Lee's done fantastic work

1715
01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:15,840
Speaker 7: at Vandy. I think a lot of it is Jerry

1716
01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:20,479
Speaker 7: Kill and the offensive renovation that they've had with Diego Pavia,

1717
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:23,320
Speaker 7: But I do think these are two i'd call them

1718
01:24:23,479 --> 01:24:27,320
Speaker 7: mid tier Power Conference teams that are trying to ascend

1719
01:24:27,400 --> 01:24:29,960
Speaker 7: to the upper tier, and the best way you can

1720
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:32,439
Speaker 7: do that is to go win a bowl game and

1721
01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:34,800
Speaker 7: to kind of push that momentum forward. And I think

1722
01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:36,439
Speaker 7: these are two teams that have had a lot of

1723
01:24:36,479 --> 01:24:40,160
Speaker 7: momentum this year, and you want to end your season

1724
01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:42,880
Speaker 7: on a win, whereas Vandy's had big wins Overbama, you know,

1725
01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:45,800
Speaker 7: play Texas tough. If you end your season on a win,

1726
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:47,960
Speaker 7: especially for Vandy, who six and six, you end your

1727
01:24:47,960 --> 01:24:50,240
Speaker 7: season seven and six, it's a whole lot different than

1728
01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:53,439
Speaker 7: six and seven, and I take stock in that when

1729
01:24:53,479 --> 01:24:55,280
Speaker 7: we go into the next season, like if Vandy wins

1730
01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:58,560
Speaker 7: his game, I'm gonna be thinking that, hey, that momentum

1731
01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:01,640
Speaker 7: hopefully helps them on the recruiting trail and just overall

1732
01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:04,840
Speaker 7: as you push your program forward. So that of all

1733
01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:06,679
Speaker 7: the there's not a ton of ball games. Of course,

1734
01:25:06,680 --> 01:25:09,280
Speaker 7: the Cultural Wall playoffs kind of skewed the ball schedule

1735
01:25:09,320 --> 01:25:11,800
Speaker 7: a little bit, but that game kind of stood out

1736
01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:13,320
Speaker 7: to me as two teams that I think, you know,

1737
01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:15,719
Speaker 7: maybe trying to ascend to that upper tier of power

1738
01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:16,519
Speaker 7: conference football.

1739
01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:21,080
Speaker 4: It's kind of crazy in the relia Quest Bowl. We've

1740
01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:22,640
Speaker 4: got Alabama and Michigan.

1741
01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:23,640
Speaker 3: Think about that.

1742
01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:26,559
Speaker 4: Those two teams met in the College Football Playoff last

1743
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:31,320
Speaker 4: season and that was the traumatic ending. Remember they gave

1744
01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:34,840
Speaker 4: it to Jalen Milroe to try to run in from

1745
01:25:35,439 --> 01:25:37,840
Speaker 4: how many yards maybe like three or four yards out,

1746
01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:40,320
Speaker 4: and Michigan stopped them in dramatic fashion.

1747
01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:42,000
Speaker 3: And now those teams are in the.

1748
01:25:41,960 --> 01:25:45,280
Speaker 4: RelA Quest Bowl. You know, it's like whoa man, Life

1749
01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:50,680
Speaker 4: comes at you fast. But Michigan, last time we saw

1750
01:25:50,720 --> 01:25:54,320
Speaker 4: in beat Ohio State. So to tee it up against Alabama.

1751
01:25:54,360 --> 01:25:56,960
Speaker 4: Alabama was a big favorite, favored by ten and a

1752
01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:59,519
Speaker 4: half in that one. But look at us talking about

1753
01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:02,679
Speaker 4: non play off games. Huh, we're geeks for the sport.

1754
01:26:02,720 --> 01:26:03,200
Speaker 3: We love it.

1755
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:07,080
Speaker 4: If we look at the four college football playoff matchups,

1756
01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:13,800
Speaker 4: so every home favorite is at least minus seven, right,

1757
01:26:14,160 --> 01:26:18,080
Speaker 4: maybe more than that, but at least right now, Actually

1758
01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:21,360
Speaker 4: everybody is over a touchdown. Sorry, I was looking at

1759
01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:24,120
Speaker 4: the wrong thing. Where Ohio State opened as a touchdown favorite,

1760
01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:27,240
Speaker 4: they're now minus seven and a half. So every home

1761
01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:32,640
Speaker 4: favorite is favored by over a touchdown. So the question becomes,

1762
01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:38,080
Speaker 4: which road dog do you think will win the game outright?

1763
01:26:38,200 --> 01:26:42,720
Speaker 4: If any how many road dogs cover. We're looking at Indiana,

1764
01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:46,800
Speaker 4: They're at Notre Dame, SMU at Penn State, Clemson is

1765
01:26:46,840 --> 01:26:49,719
Speaker 4: at Texas, and Tennessee is at Ohio State.

1766
01:26:50,160 --> 01:26:53,240
Speaker 3: Rich, you've been rolling with the road dogs here lately.

1767
01:26:53,479 --> 01:26:55,519
Speaker 4: I know how many of them at least cover any

1768
01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:57,040
Speaker 4: outright winners in your eyes?

1769
01:26:57,360 --> 01:27:01,960
Speaker 6: Oh man, I'll tell you what. It pains me to

1770
01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:05,400
Speaker 6: say this. But could I see Penn State sneaking away

1771
01:27:05,439 --> 01:27:09,840
Speaker 6: with a round one win, Yeah? Could I see SMU

1772
01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:11,639
Speaker 6: potentially playing it close with them?

1773
01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:12,800
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1774
01:27:12,840 --> 01:27:15,040
Speaker 6: And like I said, it pains me to say that

1775
01:27:15,080 --> 01:27:17,400
Speaker 6: because I don't want that to be a good sweat.

1776
01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:20,360
Speaker 6: I want my nit Kney Lions to beat the Brakes

1777
01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:25,439
Speaker 6: off as other methodists. But it feels like in big

1778
01:27:25,520 --> 01:27:29,840
Speaker 6: games that's when the heartache occurs for Penn State. And

1779
01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:31,640
Speaker 6: I do think it is a little bit of a

1780
01:27:31,640 --> 01:27:35,799
Speaker 6: self fulfilling prophecy, but I also think there is something

1781
01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:40,080
Speaker 6: to that, like teams and coaches need how to learn

1782
01:27:40,120 --> 01:27:43,280
Speaker 6: how to put away opponents, and I don't know if

1783
01:27:43,280 --> 01:27:46,599
Speaker 6: that culture has learned it yet. In Franklin's time there,

1784
01:27:46,720 --> 01:27:49,400
Speaker 6: they've had big wins, they've had blowout wins, but in

1785
01:27:49,439 --> 01:27:54,320
Speaker 6: important games it's either always close or it's a narrow loss,

1786
01:27:54,479 --> 01:27:56,000
Speaker 6: or it's a blowout loss.

1787
01:27:55,680 --> 01:27:57,280
Speaker 1: And it stings for a long time.

1788
01:27:58,520 --> 01:28:01,519
Speaker 6: So yeah, as much is it pains me, Like if

1789
01:28:01,560 --> 01:28:05,040
Speaker 6: there was a side now money line, I'm all, if

1790
01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:08,799
Speaker 6: you Penn State, I mean, but if there's a side,

1791
01:28:08,840 --> 01:28:12,479
Speaker 6: I like, I think the Stangs could keep it close

1792
01:28:12,560 --> 01:28:13,320
Speaker 6: with the Nittnees.

1793
01:28:13,960 --> 01:28:17,599
Speaker 5: Mm yeah, I maybe I'm biased.

1794
01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:21,240
Speaker 7: Maybe Uh this is a little anger resentment talking, But

1795
01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:24,400
Speaker 7: I am so sick of the small game James narrative.

1796
01:28:24,520 --> 01:28:27,360
Speaker 5: I'm just sick of I'm sick of it. I'm so

1797
01:28:27,400 --> 01:28:27,840
Speaker 5: sick of it.

1798
01:28:27,960 --> 01:28:30,240
Speaker 6: He's a good coach, he's he's a very I mean,

1799
01:28:30,640 --> 01:28:32,479
Speaker 6: that sounds so ridiculous because I buy it too.

1800
01:28:32,600 --> 01:28:33,800
Speaker 1: All Right, it's your turn, Jared.

1801
01:28:33,800 --> 01:28:35,800
Speaker 7: All no, but but no, but you're you're you're right,

1802
01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:38,880
Speaker 7: like and we talk about this all the time, like, oh,

1803
01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:41,000
Speaker 7: you got a fire and this guy, and we're always

1804
01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:44,920
Speaker 7: very quick to fire people in this in our side

1805
01:28:44,920 --> 01:28:47,120
Speaker 7: of the industry, not realizing that if we made one

1806
01:28:47,160 --> 01:28:50,200
Speaker 7: mistake and get fired, we would probably feel terrible about it.

1807
01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:56,479
Speaker 7: But there is no evidence this year to support any

1808
01:28:56,720 --> 01:29:01,240
Speaker 7: kind of small game James narrative. If if that was true,

1809
01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:05,280
Speaker 7: they would have wilted under the pressure against Wisconsin when

1810
01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:07,840
Speaker 7: they lost Drew Holler. They would have wilted under the

1811
01:29:07,880 --> 01:29:11,280
Speaker 7: pressure at USC when they were down what ten fifteen,

1812
01:29:11,320 --> 01:29:12,800
Speaker 7: I forget what the score was at halftime, they were

1813
01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:14,519
Speaker 7: down big at half, came back and one. They would

1814
01:29:14,560 --> 01:29:17,559
Speaker 7: have wilted under the pressure on a cold night in

1815
01:29:17,600 --> 01:29:21,800
Speaker 7: Minneapolis when Minnesota was doing special teams, fake punts and

1816
01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:25,800
Speaker 7: returning block field goals for two point convertion like they

1817
01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:26,200
Speaker 7: would have.

1818
01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:27,040
Speaker 5: Lost those games.

1819
01:29:28,200 --> 01:29:31,320
Speaker 7: There is something to be said about the mental toughness

1820
01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:36,040
Speaker 7: and the perseverance of college football this year because of

1821
01:29:36,040 --> 01:29:39,439
Speaker 7: all the parody and the ability to make it through

1822
01:29:39,479 --> 01:29:43,840
Speaker 7: a power conference schedule with just one loss to a

1823
01:29:43,880 --> 01:29:47,439
Speaker 7: really good Ohio State team. I think we need to

1824
01:29:47,479 --> 01:29:51,240
Speaker 7: eliminate that from the vocabulary. And if you are betting

1825
01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:55,800
Speaker 7: SMU next Saturday because you think James Franklin comes up

1826
01:29:55,840 --> 01:29:58,960
Speaker 7: small in big games, I think you're gonna be disappointed

1827
01:29:58,960 --> 01:30:01,280
Speaker 7: with the result. That's the only take I have on that.

1828
01:30:01,680 --> 01:30:05,439
Speaker 7: As the other games go, you know, I think the

1829
01:30:05,479 --> 01:30:07,080
Speaker 7: Clemson Texas number is getting.

1830
01:30:06,840 --> 01:30:10,160
Speaker 5: A little too little, too heavy, right, Yeah, Like who's

1831
01:30:10,280 --> 01:30:12,960
Speaker 5: like Texas hasn't played anyone either. I know Clemson's in

1832
01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:16,040
Speaker 5: the ACC. Texas played six out of the seven bottom.

1833
01:30:15,800 --> 01:30:19,800
Speaker 7: Teams in the SEC, and they don't have a ranked win.

1834
01:30:20,320 --> 01:30:22,760
Speaker 7: So I thought that number was a little heavy. And

1835
01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:25,759
Speaker 7: I know Clemson, you know, I don't love Clemson personally.

1836
01:30:25,800 --> 01:30:27,799
Speaker 7: I think that was their super Bowl against SMU.

1837
01:30:28,439 --> 01:30:31,240
Speaker 5: But eleven's a lot. That's that's a lot of points

1838
01:30:31,240 --> 01:30:33,479
Speaker 5: in a college football game with how crazy this year's been,

1839
01:30:33,479 --> 01:30:35,800
Speaker 5: and Texas has not shown the ability to separate, So

1840
01:30:36,240 --> 01:30:38,519
Speaker 5: that number stood out to me a little bit. But

1841
01:30:38,640 --> 01:30:40,519
Speaker 5: I think the rest of the games are probably lying right.

1842
01:30:41,439 --> 01:30:45,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, listen, let me be the voice of dissension with

1843
01:30:46,080 --> 01:30:51,080
Speaker 4: small Game James over here. No, listen, I know you,

1844
01:30:51,200 --> 01:30:54,439
Speaker 4: Penn State Hanks. You want to ride hard for James

1845
01:30:54,479 --> 01:30:57,479
Speaker 4: Franklin over here. But it's not gonna to change the

1846
01:30:57,560 --> 01:31:00,600
Speaker 4: narrative and to change the nickname. It's gonna take a

1847
01:31:00,640 --> 01:31:04,120
Speaker 4: win against a top five team. That's the whole reason

1848
01:31:04,160 --> 01:31:08,439
Speaker 4: why small Game James exists. It's wilting against Ohio State.

1849
01:31:08,479 --> 01:31:12,280
Speaker 4: It's not, you know, getting it done against row the Boat,

1850
01:31:12,720 --> 01:31:17,120
Speaker 4: Minnesota or Wisconsin or a down USC team like who

1851
01:31:17,200 --> 01:31:20,240
Speaker 4: cares Well. It's gonna change the narrative is getting it

1852
01:31:20,280 --> 01:31:22,759
Speaker 4: done against one of the big boys. And those teams

1853
01:31:22,760 --> 01:31:25,839
Speaker 4: don't qualify this year. So if you want the narrative

1854
01:31:25,880 --> 01:31:28,400
Speaker 4: to change, in the nickname to change, beating SMU is

1855
01:31:28,439 --> 01:31:30,640
Speaker 4: not gonna do it. Beating Boise State's not gonna do

1856
01:31:30,680 --> 01:31:34,080
Speaker 4: it. It's surviving those games and beating Georgia if that's the

1857
01:31:34,120 --> 01:31:35,760
Speaker 4: next opponent, that's what.

1858
01:31:35,800 --> 01:31:36,479
Speaker 3: It's gonna take.

1859
01:31:36,600 --> 01:31:40,000
Speaker 4: It's gonna take a top five win and SMU ain't it.

1860
01:31:40,600 --> 01:31:42,639
Speaker 4: But that's the only thing that's gonna get it changed.

1861
01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:45,120
Speaker 4: And I understand I fully understand why you're sick and

1862
01:31:45,160 --> 01:31:47,960
Speaker 4: tired of it. I would be too, But you know,

1863
01:31:48,040 --> 01:31:51,439
Speaker 4: beating SMU or surviving against Minnesota, that's not gonna make

1864
01:31:51,439 --> 01:31:52,760
Speaker 4: the nickname go away at all.

1865
01:31:54,240 --> 01:31:58,799
Speaker 6: It's it's it's a shame when like so, for example,

1866
01:31:59,640 --> 01:32:04,759
Speaker 6: a Marty Schottenheimer with the Chargers, he gets fired after

1867
01:32:04,800 --> 01:32:10,120
Speaker 6: a fourteen win season, and Andy Reid with the Philadelphia Eagles,

1868
01:32:10,400 --> 01:32:17,920
Speaker 6: successful team, great coach, great offensive dynamic, just couldn't get

1869
01:32:17,960 --> 01:32:21,840
Speaker 6: over the hump playoffs wise, and you know, you look

1870
01:32:21,880 --> 01:32:25,719
Speaker 6: at you look at Andy Reid, even with Alex Smith

1871
01:32:25,920 --> 01:32:28,720
Speaker 6: early in his tenure with the Chiefs, a lot of

1872
01:32:28,760 --> 01:32:34,000
Speaker 6: the same conversation around Reid when he was coaching Alex

1873
01:32:34,040 --> 01:32:37,439
Speaker 6: Smith and the Chiefs because they were saying, yeah, you know, gosh,

1874
01:32:37,479 --> 01:32:40,040
Speaker 6: some of his you know, end of half, end of

1875
01:32:40,080 --> 01:32:44,840
Speaker 6: game decision making. You know, in Smith he's not a closer, right,

1876
01:32:45,280 --> 01:32:49,240
Speaker 6: all of a sudden, one quarterback changes everything, And Andy

1877
01:32:49,280 --> 01:32:52,320
Speaker 6: Reid is heralded as either one of the greatest coaches

1878
01:32:52,320 --> 01:32:54,479
Speaker 6: of all time certainly the greatest coach in the game

1879
01:32:54,560 --> 01:32:57,840
Speaker 6: right now. So my point is kind of like, yes,

1880
01:32:57,920 --> 01:33:01,519
Speaker 6: you're right, there's work to be done for Franklin but

1881
01:33:01,880 --> 01:33:02,879
Speaker 6: at the same token.

1882
01:33:03,600 --> 01:33:06,160
Speaker 1: All it takes sometimes.

1883
01:33:05,600 --> 01:33:10,000
Speaker 6: Is like one special quarterback, one special player, one special year,

1884
01:33:10,400 --> 01:33:13,400
Speaker 6: and it completely changes that narrative.

1885
01:33:13,640 --> 01:33:15,760
Speaker 1: Guess what the coach is the same guy.

1886
01:33:16,120 --> 01:33:20,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, yep, it's it's just the the circumstances were slightly

1887
01:33:20,160 --> 01:33:23,439
Speaker 6: tweaked and and and you know, I mean the Chargers,

1888
01:33:24,920 --> 01:33:28,200
Speaker 6: they they lost some games after they moved on from Schoenheimer.

1889
01:33:28,240 --> 01:33:30,840
Speaker 1: It wasn't it wasn't a perfect transition.

1890
01:33:31,040 --> 01:33:33,120
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, I guess the Turner years, we're gonna look,

1891
01:33:33,160 --> 01:33:35,960
Speaker 6: I guess I digress on that point to prove the

1892
01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:40,400
Speaker 6: greater point that coaches are I think are harshly judged,

1893
01:33:40,800 --> 01:33:42,200
Speaker 6: even successful ones.

1894
01:33:42,360 --> 01:33:44,120
Speaker 1: And James Franklin falls in that category.

1895
01:33:44,200 --> 01:33:46,120
Speaker 4: So let me say something real fast here and I'll

1896
01:33:46,120 --> 01:33:48,840
Speaker 4: give you the final because what rich said made me

1897
01:33:48,920 --> 01:33:49,240
Speaker 4: think of it.

1898
01:33:49,360 --> 01:33:50,559
Speaker 3: Think about college football.

1899
01:33:50,560 --> 01:33:53,439
Speaker 4: Think about what Ryan Day is going through right now

1900
01:33:53,479 --> 01:33:54,360
Speaker 4: at Ohio State.

1901
01:33:54,560 --> 01:33:55,599
Speaker 1: Right what he's.

1902
01:33:55,439 --> 01:33:59,200
Speaker 4: Known for is you can't beat Michigan, right And imagine

1903
01:33:59,200 --> 01:34:01,720
Speaker 4: if some some Ohio State fan was like, but he

1904
01:34:01,800 --> 01:34:04,800
Speaker 4: beat in Illinois, what about that? And it's like, that's

1905
01:34:04,800 --> 01:34:08,360
Speaker 4: not what we're talking about, Okay, John Cooper. He couldn't

1906
01:34:08,360 --> 01:34:10,880
Speaker 4: beat Michigan. That's what he was known for. It's going

1907
01:34:10,920 --> 01:34:15,360
Speaker 4: to take slaying that dragon for the narrative to change.

1908
01:34:15,400 --> 01:34:18,040
Speaker 4: So for small game James, it's gonna take a win

1909
01:34:18,080 --> 01:34:19,200
Speaker 4: against the top five team.

1910
01:34:19,760 --> 01:34:23,560
Speaker 7: Here's the problem, though, expectations don't meet reality.

1911
01:34:24,479 --> 01:34:25,080
Speaker 5: Penn State.

1912
01:34:25,120 --> 01:34:28,200
Speaker 7: For the last five six years, however long James been there,

1913
01:34:28,200 --> 01:34:32,160
Speaker 7: I think seven, he hasn't had players that can compete

1914
01:34:32,200 --> 01:34:35,880
Speaker 7: with Michigan and Ohio State. I've talked to several players

1915
01:34:35,960 --> 01:34:40,080
Speaker 7: that have been on the teams of the last recent

1916
01:34:40,160 --> 01:34:43,519
Speaker 7: Penn State run and they all tell me the same thing.

1917
01:34:44,080 --> 01:34:45,200
Speaker 5: James is a great coach.

1918
01:34:45,479 --> 01:34:47,600
Speaker 7: The team on the other sideline, Ohio State, they have

1919
01:34:47,640 --> 01:34:52,280
Speaker 7: better players, They have better players, they spend more money

1920
01:34:52,280 --> 01:34:58,040
Speaker 7: on assistant coaches, they have more resources. So is James

1921
01:34:58,040 --> 01:35:03,880
Speaker 7: Franklin coaching above expectation. No, he is meeting expectation. He's

1922
01:35:03,880 --> 01:35:10,800
Speaker 7: not small, he's not big, he's medium expectation like that.

1923
01:35:10,800 --> 01:35:14,080
Speaker 7: That is what bothers me. You are blaming James.

1924
01:35:14,280 --> 01:35:14,400
Speaker 1: Now.

1925
01:35:14,400 --> 01:35:16,920
Speaker 7: You want to say go out and get better players, Sure, fine,

1926
01:35:17,439 --> 01:35:20,679
Speaker 7: but that takes money and Penn State doesn't have as much.

1927
01:35:20,960 --> 01:35:25,479
Speaker 7: Go look at the assistant coach salaries for Ohio State.

1928
01:35:25,520 --> 01:35:31,000
Speaker 7: And Michigan go look at Chip Kelly and what he's

1929
01:35:31,080 --> 01:35:33,600
Speaker 7: making compared to what Penn State, and they're about to

1930
01:35:33,640 --> 01:35:36,320
Speaker 7: lose another ZC codal Nicky. Actually, I hope he doesn't leave.

1931
01:35:36,360 --> 01:35:38,720
Speaker 7: I don't think he's going to, but you never know.

1932
01:35:39,080 --> 01:35:42,240
Speaker 7: Could be another offer that swoops in. But they don't

1933
01:35:42,320 --> 01:35:45,040
Speaker 7: have that. They don't have better players. You're asking James

1934
01:35:45,040 --> 01:35:49,880
Speaker 7: to coach above reproach. Should he sure? I'd like him too,

1935
01:35:50,320 --> 01:35:53,920
Speaker 7: But the narrative that he's coming up small in big games.

1936
01:35:54,000 --> 01:35:56,799
Speaker 7: They're an underdog in these games they're supposed to lose.

1937
01:35:57,600 --> 01:36:01,320
Speaker 7: It just doesn't make sense to me how you could blame.

1938
01:36:01,920 --> 01:36:04,720
Speaker 7: It's like blaming a chef for not cooking you a

1939
01:36:04,760 --> 01:36:07,920
Speaker 7: five star meal when you're giving him crappy ingredients. He's

1940
01:36:07,960 --> 01:36:11,719
Speaker 7: doing the best he can with the ingredients he has.

1941
01:36:12,439 --> 01:36:15,280
Speaker 5: Now they've had better players recently.

1942
01:36:15,280 --> 01:36:17,599
Speaker 7: For example, thank god they have a quarterback finally who

1943
01:36:17,640 --> 01:36:20,200
Speaker 7: can play cool and listen. It's not a knock on

1944
01:36:20,280 --> 01:36:23,680
Speaker 7: guys like Sean Clifford or Trace McSorley, but those are

1945
01:36:23,720 --> 01:36:28,000
Speaker 7: not NFL caliber quarterbacks. And that is who has been

1946
01:36:28,120 --> 01:36:31,040
Speaker 7: under the helm under center for Penn State over the

1947
01:36:31,080 --> 01:36:31,840
Speaker 7: last few years.

1948
01:36:31,880 --> 01:36:32,479
Speaker 1: It just it.

1949
01:36:32,880 --> 01:36:34,360
Speaker 5: That's why I hate the narrative.

1950
01:36:34,600 --> 01:36:38,440
Speaker 7: You are blaming a coach for not taking Sean Clifford

1951
01:36:38,800 --> 01:36:42,400
Speaker 7: and making him look like Patrick mahomes A.

1952
01:36:42,600 --> 01:36:43,480
Speaker 5: That's a tough.

1953
01:36:43,240 --> 01:36:49,719
Speaker 4: Ask, I hear you, but still, right like, it reminds

1954
01:36:49,760 --> 01:36:52,240
Speaker 4: me of Belichick. It'd be like saying Belichick after the

1955
01:36:52,240 --> 01:36:58,040
Speaker 4: Brady years, explaining why he's not getting it done. It's like, well, Belichick,

1956
01:36:58,160 --> 01:37:01,200
Speaker 4: the GM is kind of getting the way of Belichick

1957
01:37:01,240 --> 01:37:04,160
Speaker 4: to coach, and that's true. But anybody banging on Belichick

1958
01:37:04,240 --> 01:37:06,960
Speaker 4: is basically saying the same thing about James Franklin. Get

1959
01:37:07,000 --> 01:37:10,400
Speaker 4: it freaking done right. Don't explain it to me why

1960
01:37:10,439 --> 01:37:13,600
Speaker 4: you're not. And it's the less talented team. Find a

1961
01:37:13,640 --> 01:37:15,960
Speaker 4: way to get better players. If that's what tripping you.

1962
01:37:15,960 --> 01:37:17,599
Speaker 3: Up, right, Like, that's it.

1963
01:37:18,040 --> 01:37:21,120
Speaker 4: I'll meet you on one point though, Jared real fast

1964
01:37:21,280 --> 01:37:24,320
Speaker 4: is that's what makes it so damning with Ryan Day

1965
01:37:24,520 --> 01:37:27,639
Speaker 4: having the better roster than Michigan this season and losing

1966
01:37:27,680 --> 01:37:30,120
Speaker 4: when you're a twenty point favorite or whatever it was.

1967
01:37:30,720 --> 01:37:32,040
Speaker 3: As I hear you.

1968
01:37:32,240 --> 01:37:36,320
Speaker 4: But still we're like, don't explain it to us.

1969
01:37:36,439 --> 01:37:39,160
Speaker 3: Just find a way.

1970
01:37:39,320 --> 01:37:40,000
Speaker 5: But here's the problem.

1971
01:37:40,040 --> 01:37:42,320
Speaker 7: They're gonna beat Georgia in the semis, and they're gonna

1972
01:37:42,360 --> 01:37:44,040
Speaker 7: be like, oh, Georgia didn't have their quarterback.

1973
01:37:44,880 --> 01:37:50,000
Speaker 4: Small game dogs, Hey, don't don't count don't count out,

1974
01:37:50,400 --> 01:37:56,360
Speaker 4: big game Marcus Freeman okay before Oh yeah that Georgia.

1975
01:37:56,800 --> 01:37:59,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, so look aheadlines, how about this. Notre Dame is

1976
01:37:59,080 --> 01:38:01,680
Speaker 7: probably gonna be favorite in that maybe, oh my goodness.

1977
01:38:01,560 --> 01:38:04,800
Speaker 4: Will be yeah ucl Yeah, Carson becks a big deal.

1978
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Speaker 1: Hey.

1979
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Speaker 3: All right, we've got Rich.

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1985
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1986
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Speaker 3: All right, we got.

2002
01:39:15,120 --> 01:39:21,640
Speaker 4: Buffalo at Detroit NFL Week fifteen tomorrow. Can't wait for

2003
01:39:21,720 --> 01:39:24,160
Speaker 4: that with That is top billing. That is the main

2004
01:39:24,240 --> 01:39:27,680
Speaker 4: attraction in Week fifteen in the NFL. And I just

2005
01:39:27,720 --> 01:39:31,160
Speaker 4: want to throw the question out there. Are the Lions

2006
01:39:32,280 --> 01:39:36,360
Speaker 4: maybe the best team in football? Are they getting disrespected here?

2007
01:39:36,479 --> 01:39:39,200
Speaker 4: Maybe not by leaps and bounds, but only a two

2008
01:39:39,240 --> 01:39:42,280
Speaker 4: and a half point home favorite against Buffalo. And we

2009
01:39:42,320 --> 01:39:46,320
Speaker 4: know Buffalo is good, but Detroit is twelve and one. Yeah,

2010
01:39:46,400 --> 01:39:48,559
Speaker 4: you had they're banged up. Maybe that goes into it,

2011
01:39:49,240 --> 01:39:54,160
Speaker 4: but I keep going back to Buffalo earlier this season

2012
01:39:54,439 --> 01:39:59,360
Speaker 4: had no answers for Baltimore. None Baltimore just played smash Mouth.

2013
01:39:59,479 --> 01:40:01,960
Speaker 4: It was a dose of Derrick Henry and you can't

2014
01:40:01,960 --> 01:40:08,320
Speaker 4: stop us. Can you not see at least the tea

2015
01:40:08,439 --> 01:40:12,559
Speaker 4: leaves of Detroit being successful in the same manner here.

2016
01:40:12,400 --> 01:40:14,240
Speaker 3: And yet they're only favored by two and a half.

2017
01:40:14,280 --> 01:40:19,280
Speaker 3: They've won eleven straight games, Buffalo gave up forty four.

2018
01:40:19,280 --> 01:40:24,200
Speaker 4: Last week, and they're not your standard home three point favorite.

2019
01:40:24,439 --> 01:40:28,800
Speaker 4: I just think it's at a minimum slightly disrespectful for

2020
01:40:28,880 --> 01:40:30,920
Speaker 4: what Detroit brings to the table here.

2021
01:40:31,160 --> 01:40:33,200
Speaker 1: I think that's fair. I think that's fair.

2022
01:40:34,080 --> 01:40:37,799
Speaker 6: Look, you are what your record says you are, is true,

2023
01:40:38,680 --> 01:40:42,280
Speaker 6: but but there are times.

2024
01:40:41,960 --> 01:40:43,120
Speaker 1: Where you can argue it.

2025
01:40:43,240 --> 01:40:45,439
Speaker 6: Like, for example, are the Chiefs as good as their

2026
01:40:45,520 --> 01:40:46,559
Speaker 6: record says they are?

2027
01:40:46,680 --> 01:40:51,759
Speaker 1: No, No, they're not. Is Detroit as good as their record?

2028
01:40:52,080 --> 01:40:55,360
Speaker 6: I would argue, yeah, yeah, they are what their record

2029
01:40:55,439 --> 01:40:57,760
Speaker 6: says they are. That is a winning football team, that's

2030
01:40:57,760 --> 01:41:00,640
Speaker 6: a winning culture. That's a bunch of bad dudes with

2031
01:41:00,720 --> 01:41:03,840
Speaker 6: bad intentions getting great things done on the football field,

2032
01:41:03,840 --> 01:41:07,959
Speaker 6: and I love to watch them. But however, the Bills

2033
01:41:08,560 --> 01:41:12,559
Speaker 6: aren't as bad as their record says they are, you

2034
01:41:12,560 --> 01:41:14,720
Speaker 6: know what I mean. Like they've had some stumbles, but

2035
01:41:15,360 --> 01:41:19,400
Speaker 6: I mean, are they Are they that much worse than Detroit?

2036
01:41:19,640 --> 01:41:22,479
Speaker 6: I guess the better way to say it is they're

2037
01:41:22,600 --> 01:41:25,960
Speaker 6: they're closer to Detroit than their record would say they are.

2038
01:41:26,520 --> 01:41:29,160
Speaker 6: I think that Buffalo has built a really good mouse

2039
01:41:29,200 --> 01:41:32,240
Speaker 6: trap and it all circles around one man, and that's

2040
01:41:32,320 --> 01:41:35,240
Speaker 6: Josh Allen, and they go as he goes. And he's

2041
01:41:35,240 --> 01:41:38,120
Speaker 6: been going this season, and he's been going really well.

2042
01:41:38,400 --> 01:41:41,280
Speaker 6: And that is a big problem to sort out and

2043
01:41:41,360 --> 01:41:44,559
Speaker 6: to figure out, you know. And it doesn't matter what

2044
01:41:44,640 --> 01:41:48,000
Speaker 6: style game you're playing, whether game he's got it handled,

2045
01:41:48,320 --> 01:41:50,880
Speaker 6: a shootout, he can score with the best of them.

2046
01:41:51,640 --> 01:41:51,840
Speaker 1: You know.

2047
01:41:51,880 --> 01:41:54,839
Speaker 6: If it's gonna be a tough and rumble game, low scoring,

2048
01:41:55,280 --> 01:41:58,719
Speaker 6: you know, he can make it happen. In situational football,

2049
01:41:59,200 --> 01:42:02,320
Speaker 6: the biggest albatross for the Bills is winning in the postseason,

2050
01:42:02,439 --> 01:42:04,960
Speaker 6: especially against that team in red from Kansas City.

2051
01:42:05,400 --> 01:42:06,240
Speaker 1: But we're not there yet.

2052
01:42:06,240 --> 01:42:09,360
Speaker 6: We're talking about a regular season matchup against the Detroit Lions.

2053
01:42:09,800 --> 01:42:11,759
Speaker 1: I think they match up well. So I do agree

2054
01:42:11,800 --> 01:42:12,120
Speaker 1: with you.

2055
01:42:13,000 --> 01:42:17,040
Speaker 6: Is Detroit not getting the love they deserve because they're

2056
01:42:17,120 --> 01:42:21,160
Speaker 6: flying all this success under the Detroit Lions banner, which

2057
01:42:21,200 --> 01:42:24,160
Speaker 6: has been a banner of misery for years and years

2058
01:42:24,160 --> 01:42:27,320
Speaker 6: and years. Yeah, I think to a certain extent, but

2059
01:42:27,439 --> 01:42:31,960
Speaker 6: I think this spread probably accurately represents what we're gonna see.

2060
01:42:32,000 --> 01:42:33,120
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a tight game.

2061
01:42:34,040 --> 01:42:34,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree.

2062
01:42:34,960 --> 01:42:37,880
Speaker 7: I think I actually had these teams rated the same

2063
01:42:38,360 --> 01:42:40,960
Speaker 7: in my power ratings right at the top. They are

2064
01:42:41,000 --> 01:42:44,320
Speaker 7: the top three teams at the top. If Buffalo, Detroit,

2065
01:42:44,360 --> 01:42:46,400
Speaker 7: Baltimore are all rated the same, which means if they

2066
01:42:46,439 --> 01:42:49,200
Speaker 7: all played on a neutral, the game should be a

2067
01:42:49,200 --> 01:42:52,760
Speaker 7: pick them all. Right, Well, games not being played on

2068
01:42:52,800 --> 01:42:57,160
Speaker 7: a neutral, it's being played in a frenzied MotorCity dome,

2069
01:42:57,800 --> 01:43:02,320
Speaker 7: so crowd all that will be factor. Yeah, and there's

2070
01:43:02,439 --> 01:43:05,920
Speaker 7: just this element of travel and situational handicapping that I

2071
01:43:05,960 --> 01:43:06,400
Speaker 7: do think.

2072
01:43:06,280 --> 01:43:07,320
Speaker 5: Favors Detroit here.

2073
01:43:07,479 --> 01:43:11,439
Speaker 7: First of all, Buffalo's kind of in this weird all

2074
01:43:11,479 --> 01:43:15,160
Speaker 7: over the place zone where they went from, Hey, maybe

2075
01:43:15,160 --> 01:43:17,559
Speaker 7: we can win the one seed to like, all right,

2076
01:43:17,640 --> 01:43:19,479
Speaker 7: let's just make sure we win the two seed and

2077
01:43:19,520 --> 01:43:22,880
Speaker 7: get that home playoff game in the divisional round now,

2078
01:43:24,160 --> 01:43:26,920
Speaker 7: because after losing to the Rams, I just don't think

2079
01:43:26,920 --> 01:43:29,280
Speaker 7: the one seeds possible. Like, I just don't see Kansas

2080
01:43:29,280 --> 01:43:30,920
Speaker 7: City losing twice down the stretch.

2081
01:43:30,640 --> 01:43:31,080
Speaker 5: Maybe they do.

2082
01:43:31,720 --> 01:43:33,840
Speaker 7: Maybe they do that to play Denver, to play Pittsburgh.

2083
01:43:34,120 --> 01:43:37,080
Speaker 7: But they've lost once all year and there's only four

2084
01:43:37,080 --> 01:43:38,800
Speaker 7: games left. So the odds of them losing twice in

2085
01:43:38,800 --> 01:43:41,360
Speaker 7: the last four you're asking a lot. That's what would

2086
01:43:41,400 --> 01:43:44,000
Speaker 7: need to happen. Buffalo would have to win out Ken Saity.

2087
01:43:44,040 --> 01:43:46,160
Speaker 7: We have to go two and two in order for

2088
01:43:46,200 --> 01:43:48,080
Speaker 7: the Bills to get the one seed. Of course they

2089
01:43:48,080 --> 01:43:50,040
Speaker 7: do hold the tiebreaker. The only loss this year for

2090
01:43:50,120 --> 01:43:53,040
Speaker 7: Kansas City was to Buffalo. The other part of this

2091
01:43:53,160 --> 01:43:56,040
Speaker 7: that I think is intriguing here to me is I'm

2092
01:43:56,040 --> 01:43:59,160
Speaker 7: hearing a lot of oh off the loss Buffalo bounce back,

2093
01:43:59,560 --> 01:44:02,519
Speaker 7: they're more motivated than Detroit. All right, well, let me

2094
01:44:02,600 --> 01:44:06,479
Speaker 7: just stop you right there. If your argument for any

2095
01:44:06,560 --> 01:44:09,760
Speaker 7: team beating the Lions in a football game this year

2096
01:44:10,400 --> 01:44:12,960
Speaker 7: is they are more motivated.

2097
01:44:13,439 --> 01:44:15,520
Speaker 5: That is freaking crazy.

2098
01:44:15,560 --> 01:44:15,760
Speaker 2: Man.

2099
01:44:16,280 --> 01:44:18,080
Speaker 5: Have you seen this Lions team.

2100
01:44:18,800 --> 01:44:24,160
Speaker 7: There is not one team maybe an NFL history, that

2101
01:44:24,320 --> 01:44:27,360
Speaker 7: is more mentally up week in.

2102
01:44:27,960 --> 01:44:30,640
Speaker 5: And week out than the Detroit Lions.

2103
01:44:31,000 --> 01:44:36,000
Speaker 7: I'm sorry, but any argument situational handicap motivation.

2104
01:44:36,360 --> 01:44:40,040
Speaker 5: No, This Lions team knows one speed.

2105
01:44:40,720 --> 01:44:45,599
Speaker 7: It's the most impressive, toughest mental team I have watched

2106
01:44:45,680 --> 01:44:49,200
Speaker 7: in my time short time doing this handicapping bit over

2107
01:44:49,240 --> 01:44:51,040
Speaker 7: the last four or five years, I have not seen

2108
01:44:51,080 --> 01:44:53,800
Speaker 7: a team more up than the Lions are week in

2109
01:44:53,880 --> 01:44:57,040
Speaker 7: and week out stats wise. Yeah, I think you can

2110
01:44:57,120 --> 01:44:59,000
Speaker 7: make a case the Buffalo is the better team. But

2111
01:44:59,439 --> 01:45:01,760
Speaker 7: I think I think Detroit wins this game at home.

2112
01:45:01,800 --> 01:45:04,080
Speaker 7: I honestly do. And I wouldn't be shocked if they win.

2113
01:45:03,960 --> 01:45:07,280
Speaker 3: It big, wow, win it big, interesting.

2114
01:45:07,160 --> 01:45:10,120
Speaker 5: Two ten, fourteen points. I would be shocked if they

2115
01:45:10,160 --> 01:45:10,439
Speaker 5: win it.

2116
01:45:10,400 --> 01:45:12,320
Speaker 3: Big, not like fifty two to six, Like.

2117
01:45:12,400 --> 01:45:14,160
Speaker 5: No, I think that's I think that's.

2118
01:45:16,439 --> 01:45:18,080
Speaker 3: How about Steelers Eagles?

2119
01:45:18,520 --> 01:45:22,000
Speaker 4: You got the Eagles home favorites by five and a half.

2120
01:45:22,479 --> 01:45:26,360
Speaker 4: And we've had the AJ Brown saga this week. So

2121
01:45:26,600 --> 01:45:29,800
Speaker 4: Brandon Graham, Eagles player, he's banged up, but he won

2122
01:45:29,880 --> 01:45:33,479
Speaker 4: our radio show and said, hey, Jalen Hurtz and AJ

2123
01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:34,719
Speaker 4: Brown used to be cool.

2124
01:45:34,920 --> 01:45:35,559
Speaker 1: Not anymore.

2125
01:45:36,120 --> 01:45:39,200
Speaker 4: They're they're beef And basically I'm paraphrasing. And then all

2126
01:45:39,240 --> 01:45:41,759
Speaker 4: of a sudden, it's this huge story the entire week,

2127
01:45:42,320 --> 01:45:44,760
Speaker 4: and I look at Philly. This is amazing to me.

2128
01:45:45,080 --> 01:45:51,120
Speaker 4: Philadelphia's passing offense thirty first in the NFL this season,

2129
01:45:51,240 --> 01:45:55,439
Speaker 4: only the Patriots averaged less passing yards per game than

2130
01:45:55,479 --> 01:45:56,120
Speaker 4: the Eagles.

2131
01:45:56,680 --> 01:45:59,600
Speaker 3: Does that not blow your mind? Yeah, that's amazing to me.

2132
01:45:59,680 --> 01:46:02,760
Speaker 4: With A Brown Devonte Smith, it boils down to this,

2133
01:46:02,960 --> 01:46:05,000
Speaker 4: Jalen Hurts is a mediocre quarterback.

2134
01:46:05,400 --> 01:46:06,479
Speaker 3: That's the bottom line.

2135
01:46:06,960 --> 01:46:09,640
Speaker 4: There are times AJ Brown is wide open, doesn't get

2136
01:46:09,720 --> 01:46:12,240
Speaker 4: him the football. There are times other receivers are open

2137
01:46:12,360 --> 01:46:15,040
Speaker 4: and he doesn't get him the football because it's either.

2138
01:46:14,880 --> 01:46:16,320
Speaker 3: A bad throw or a bad read.

2139
01:46:16,880 --> 01:46:20,720
Speaker 4: And Jalen Hurts after they the Eagles went toe to

2140
01:46:20,720 --> 01:46:22,519
Speaker 4: toe with Mahomes and the Chiefs and it was like,

2141
01:46:22,640 --> 01:46:25,120
Speaker 4: this guy's amazing. Pay him, give him the bag. And

2142
01:46:25,160 --> 01:46:28,360
Speaker 4: it's like, yeah, give it a little bit of time

2143
01:46:28,680 --> 01:46:31,280
Speaker 4: and see what you have. And right now he is

2144
01:46:31,360 --> 01:46:34,800
Speaker 4: not one of the upper echelon quarterbacks. He's not even

2145
01:46:34,840 --> 01:46:37,840
Speaker 4: sniffing the top ten. He's got to pick his game up.

2146
01:46:37,920 --> 01:46:41,679
Speaker 4: Everybody's focused on AJ Brown being a diva or Yeah,

2147
01:46:41,680 --> 01:46:44,320
Speaker 4: he can be pretty whiny, he can be selfish, but

2148
01:46:44,360 --> 01:46:46,280
Speaker 4: I would argue he's got reason to be when a

2149
01:46:46,760 --> 01:46:49,559
Speaker 4: when Jalen Hurts is not doing his job, Jalen Hurts

2150
01:46:49,600 --> 01:46:51,479
Speaker 4: got to do a much better job for Philly to

2151
01:46:51,479 --> 01:46:52,160
Speaker 4: get anywhere.

2152
01:46:52,160 --> 01:46:52,679
Speaker 5: This season.

2153
01:46:53,280 --> 01:46:54,840
Speaker 1: So here's my take on this game.

2154
01:46:54,880 --> 01:46:59,639
Speaker 6: First and foremost, the NFL is a business first, and

2155
01:47:00,360 --> 01:47:03,559
Speaker 6: it is a business of winning, but it's also a

2156
01:47:03,680 --> 01:47:05,960
Speaker 6: business of public relations.

2157
01:47:06,360 --> 01:47:09,200
Speaker 1: And Jared he remembers this as well as I do.

2158
01:47:09,760 --> 01:47:12,639
Speaker 6: When you're on that campus at Penn State and you're

2159
01:47:12,720 --> 01:47:17,920
Speaker 6: walking through the dorm quad at the Pollock Commons or

2160
01:47:18,000 --> 01:47:22,760
Speaker 6: East Halls, and all the windows are open and you're

2161
01:47:22,760 --> 01:47:27,400
Speaker 6: hearing people excitedly root for their Eagles or their Pittsburgh

2162
01:47:27,400 --> 01:47:31,760
Speaker 6: Steelers on the Penn State campus. I mean, you know,

2163
01:47:31,840 --> 01:47:35,800
Speaker 6: it's important. This is the unofficial you know, Pennsylvania championship

2164
01:47:35,880 --> 01:47:38,200
Speaker 6: right here right, you know, the Eagles and the Steelers.

2165
01:47:38,200 --> 01:47:39,559
Speaker 1: So this matters.

2166
01:47:39,640 --> 01:47:43,240
Speaker 6: This matters to fan bases, and so it matters to

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01:47:43,320 --> 01:47:45,920
Speaker 6: coaches in a big way. Maybe these players are from

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Speaker 6: a smattering at different places, but the words on the

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01:47:50,479 --> 01:47:53,799
Speaker 6: front of those jerseys are meaningful to the fan bases

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Speaker 6: who they represent. And so this is a big one.

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01:47:57,600 --> 01:48:01,120
Speaker 6: It is. It is a rivalry game. It is an

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01:48:01,160 --> 01:48:05,760
Speaker 6: important win for either side to get the lean is

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01:48:05,960 --> 01:48:10,599
Speaker 6: in terms of roster construction and and and some other

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Speaker 6: you know tangible statistics Philadelphia.

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Speaker 1: But I'm staying off of it. Because I can't.

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Speaker 6: I can't put my finger on it, but it just

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01:48:25,000 --> 01:48:30,439
Speaker 6: feels like Nick Sirianni is missing that it factor to

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01:48:30,720 --> 01:48:36,360
Speaker 6: keep this thing organized. I think Saquon Barkley has covered

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01:48:36,439 --> 01:48:40,640
Speaker 6: up a lot of blemishes in Philadelphia. That was a

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01:48:40,760 --> 01:48:45,000
Speaker 6: brilliant move by Howie Roseman. I think that stability in

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01:48:45,040 --> 01:48:48,840
Speaker 6: the culture. Not moving on from Nick Sirianni this offseason

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01:48:49,520 --> 01:48:53,160
Speaker 6: helped the situation. It certainly didn't hurt it, But I

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01:48:53,200 --> 01:48:57,040
Speaker 6: don't know if he's if he's the right voice at

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01:48:57,080 --> 01:49:00,479
Speaker 6: the head of the class to tamp down some of

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01:49:00,520 --> 01:49:03,839
Speaker 6: the distractions that are now roiling to the surface.

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Speaker 1: So can I see the Eagles winning? Yeah?

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01:49:06,200 --> 01:49:08,680
Speaker 6: Sure, I could see the Eagles beating the Steelers. I

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01:49:08,680 --> 01:49:12,880
Speaker 6: think they're a better football team in construction. But who

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01:49:12,960 --> 01:49:15,360
Speaker 6: do I think is gonna win this game? If I

2190
01:49:15,439 --> 01:49:18,160
Speaker 6: close my eyes and I picture who's gonna win this game,

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01:49:18,200 --> 01:49:20,880
Speaker 6: it's the Steelers. So I'm gonna stay off of it

2192
01:49:20,920 --> 01:49:25,160
Speaker 6: because I'm torn. My gut says it's the Steelers, my

2193
01:49:25,200 --> 01:49:27,920
Speaker 6: brain says it's the Eagles. So it's a no go

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01:49:28,080 --> 01:49:31,320
Speaker 6: for me in terms of picking a side. And I'm

2195
01:49:31,439 --> 01:49:35,000
Speaker 6: very curious if the Eagles lose this game, and especially

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01:49:35,040 --> 01:49:37,760
Speaker 6: if it's a bad loss, like if they get like

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Speaker 6: a two score loss fed to them by the Steelers

2198
01:49:41,400 --> 01:49:44,200
Speaker 6: and they get beat up a little bit, what happens

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01:49:44,360 --> 01:49:47,240
Speaker 6: to the commentary inside of the locker room? How much

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01:49:47,360 --> 01:49:50,320
Speaker 6: more are we gonna hear about all that next week?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I like the way you broke that down. Fun story.

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01:49:53,880 --> 01:49:55,799
Speaker 5: Two thousand and four, My freshman year at Penn.

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01:49:55,600 --> 01:50:00,360
Speaker 7: State Philly was undefeated. Steelers were six and one. Played

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01:50:00,360 --> 01:50:02,720
Speaker 7: each other early in the year.

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01:50:02,720 --> 01:50:05,080
Speaker 5: It was like, yeah, it was like early November, and

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01:50:05,120 --> 01:50:07,400
Speaker 5: I remember that week on the bus.

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01:50:07,680 --> 01:50:10,720
Speaker 7: The the white Loop bus. Oh my goodness, people work out.

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Speaker 7: It was like you would think it was World War

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01:50:12,800 --> 01:50:15,120
Speaker 7: Three between the Eagles and the and the and the

2211
01:50:15,120 --> 01:50:19,000
Speaker 7: Steelers fans. And the Eagles lost the game. They got

2212
01:50:19,080 --> 01:50:20,920
Speaker 7: killed in the game, but then they ended up going

2213
01:50:20,920 --> 01:50:22,360
Speaker 7: to the super Bowl and then lost, of course to

2214
01:50:22,360 --> 01:50:22,839
Speaker 7: the Patriots.

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01:50:22,880 --> 01:50:24,080
Speaker 5: That was one of the been of Arry Kicks.

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01:50:24,800 --> 01:50:26,760
Speaker 7: But that's a side note for this game that has

2217
01:50:26,760 --> 01:50:29,000
Speaker 7: nothing to do with this game. I think this game

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01:50:29,040 --> 01:50:33,559
Speaker 7: comes down to can the Eagles control the tempo because

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01:50:33,560 --> 01:50:36,200
Speaker 7: the Steelers, like, that's what when you pick, when you

2220
01:50:36,200 --> 01:50:38,200
Speaker 7: close your eyes and you picture Steeler football. It's like

2221
01:50:38,280 --> 01:50:42,040
Speaker 7: Jerome Bettis running the ball, controlling the clock. It's a

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01:50:42,040 --> 01:50:44,600
Speaker 7: bit of a different Steelers offense this year, and I

2223
01:50:44,640 --> 01:50:47,439
Speaker 7: credit Arthur Smith. Arthur Smith, I know he's a meme

2224
01:50:47,520 --> 01:50:50,040
Speaker 7: in Atlanta, but he has done a really good job

2225
01:50:50,640 --> 01:50:53,519
Speaker 7: in getting Russell Wilson in the right place. No George

2226
01:50:53,520 --> 01:50:56,639
Speaker 7: Pickens this week, I think is impactful. But I think

2227
01:50:56,640 --> 01:51:01,559
Speaker 7: this Steelers offense is a modern version of the Roethlisberger Bettist,

2228
01:51:01,600 --> 01:51:05,360
Speaker 7: like the really successful offenses they've had. Like Roethlisberger didn't

2229
01:51:05,400 --> 01:51:07,400
Speaker 7: wow you with his physical traits, but he always put

2230
01:51:07,439 --> 01:51:09,200
Speaker 7: the ball in the right spot and he kept plays alive.

2231
01:51:09,400 --> 01:51:11,360
Speaker 7: And I think that's what Russell Wilson's able to do.

2232
01:51:11,840 --> 01:51:13,960
Speaker 7: And I think they've got a really good defense. So

2233
01:51:14,520 --> 01:51:17,040
Speaker 7: to me, taking the points here made sense. I took

2234
01:51:17,040 --> 01:51:19,599
Speaker 7: Pittsburgh plus five and a half. Where do I think

2235
01:51:19,600 --> 01:51:22,840
Speaker 7: the number moves. I think it probably touches six. I

2236
01:51:22,840 --> 01:51:24,559
Speaker 7: do see a six at a shop here in town.

2237
01:51:24,800 --> 01:51:27,000
Speaker 7: But I still feel like I would rather be on

2238
01:51:27,040 --> 01:51:29,160
Speaker 7: the plus side of the points led during this game.

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01:51:29,200 --> 01:51:30,680
Speaker 5: Based off of the matchup.

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Speaker 4: Hey, real fast, a couple of the scraps we wanted

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Speaker 4: to work into the show. We got a tweet here

2242
01:51:35,920 --> 01:51:39,920
Speaker 4: Preller Forever shout out to him. He wrote, after you

2243
01:51:40,120 --> 01:51:44,639
Speaker 4: changed the college football seeding, please change the NFL seeding

2244
01:51:44,680 --> 01:51:45,160
Speaker 4: as well.

2245
01:51:45,240 --> 01:51:47,040
Speaker 3: And eleven and two Minnesota team.

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01:51:46,880 --> 01:51:50,400
Speaker 4: Shouldn't be the five seed behind Tampa and Seattle.

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01:51:50,439 --> 01:51:52,800
Speaker 3: He's right, amen to that. I've been yelling about that

2248
01:51:52,920 --> 01:51:53,840
Speaker 3: for years and years.

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Speaker 5: I wonder why they can't figure that out.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's the thing college football.

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Speaker 4: You win your conference, you're in NFL, you w in

2252
01:52:00,640 --> 01:52:04,479
Speaker 4: your division, you're in. You're not getting it a bye right,

2253
01:52:04,520 --> 01:52:07,360
Speaker 4: Like you're not getting an automatic home game in the NFL.

2254
01:52:07,400 --> 01:52:10,760
Speaker 4: Like you're just in and your record will determine where

2255
01:52:10,760 --> 01:52:14,160
Speaker 4: you're slotted. I don't know why that's so difficult. And

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Speaker 4: the other thing I wanted to mention cam Ward Miami quarterback.

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01:52:19,080 --> 01:52:21,400
Speaker 4: He made me come up with the new slogan. Okay,

2258
01:52:21,479 --> 01:52:23,600
Speaker 4: so he's still unhappy that the Canes are not in

2259
01:52:23,640 --> 01:52:27,400
Speaker 4: the college football playoff and his quote is they left

2260
01:52:27,400 --> 01:52:29,880
Speaker 4: out the best quarterback in the country, they left out

2261
01:52:29,920 --> 01:52:31,839
Speaker 4: the best offense in the country.

2262
01:52:32,320 --> 01:52:33,720
Speaker 3: And it's like, dude, beat Syracuse.

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01:52:33,920 --> 01:52:35,760
Speaker 1: I don't know what you tell you that, right?

2264
01:52:36,280 --> 01:52:39,240
Speaker 3: And Georgia Tech, Yeah, you played no one.

2265
01:52:39,280 --> 01:52:39,960
Speaker 1: You beat no one.

2266
01:52:40,360 --> 01:52:43,720
Speaker 3: So here's what. Here's the new slogan. All right, I'm

2267
01:52:43,720 --> 01:52:44,680
Speaker 3: gonna try it out.

2268
01:52:45,320 --> 01:52:51,599
Speaker 4: Wins matter, whining doesn't. Oh that win freaking game. Spare

2269
01:52:51,640 --> 01:52:52,760
Speaker 4: me the tears.

2270
01:52:52,520 --> 01:52:57,719
Speaker 1: Right, I mean, look, I'll be brief here. Winning.

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01:52:58,320 --> 01:53:03,320
Speaker 6: Winning isn't everything, but it is, it really is. I mean,

2272
01:53:03,840 --> 01:53:06,280
Speaker 6: we were just talking about the Chiefs. The Chiefs are

2273
01:53:06,360 --> 01:53:08,599
Speaker 6: they kind of stink this season if you look at

2274
01:53:08,600 --> 01:53:12,320
Speaker 6: their offense, I mean, they stink. But they're a winning

2275
01:53:12,360 --> 01:53:16,080
Speaker 6: football team, so it changes the whole conversation. You could

2276
01:53:16,120 --> 01:53:20,599
Speaker 6: be a great two win team. Guess what, everyone's getting

2277
01:53:20,640 --> 01:53:25,599
Speaker 6: fired everyone. So winning overwhining makes sense.

2278
01:53:25,640 --> 01:53:25,960
Speaker 1: Buddy.

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Speaker 7: If the Chiefs record straight up was what their Ats

2280
01:53:30,080 --> 01:53:34,719
Speaker 7: record was this year, which is five and eight against

2281
01:53:34,720 --> 01:53:38,519
Speaker 7: the number, yeah, I mean, there'd be there'd be riots

2282
01:53:38,600 --> 01:53:41,000
Speaker 7: in the streets of Kansas City.

2283
01:53:41,240 --> 01:53:44,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, there would be. But we go by straight up.

2284
01:53:44,600 --> 01:53:49,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, ATS great teams cover though, Well let's go.

2285
01:53:49,520 --> 01:53:51,280
Speaker 3: It doesn't say that on the Super Bowl ring.

2286
01:53:51,520 --> 01:53:53,960
Speaker 5: You know it does not love And by the way,

2287
01:53:53,960 --> 01:53:55,320
Speaker 5: the Chiefs are winning all again this year.

2288
01:53:55,320 --> 01:53:57,639
Speaker 3: You guys know the outcome, right, They're gonna stink all year.

2289
01:53:57,800 --> 01:54:03,280
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Speaker 3: I think he'd do the same, right.

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Speaker 7: Oh, I would eat the pork shoulder, but I would

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Speaker 7: let Rich heavy lifting.

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Speaker 3: I'm Brian.

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Speaker 4: No sign me up for that. You know, Rich does everything.

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Speaker 4: Coming up next, rapid Fire. We each have three picks

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 3: We got some picks to make.

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Speaker 1: Let's do it.

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Speaker 3: Rapid fire, Okay, share, We start with you.

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01:55:52,720 --> 01:55:53,240
Speaker 1: What do you like?

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01:55:53,720 --> 01:55:55,600
Speaker 7: It's been a terrible year if you're running college fotball.

2331
01:55:55,640 --> 01:55:57,520
Speaker 7: But guys, I'm just gonna not only change today, but

2332
01:55:57,560 --> 01:55:58,120
Speaker 7: bull season.

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01:55:58,160 --> 01:56:00,000
Speaker 5: We're gonna be hot like a firecracker.

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01:56:00,560 --> 01:56:03,320
Speaker 7: It's not going to be hot like a firecracker in Brookings,

2335
01:56:03,560 --> 01:56:05,760
Speaker 7: South Dakota today. That's why we're going to bet the

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01:56:05,920 --> 01:56:08,880
Speaker 7: under in the incarnate Whorred South Dakota State Game. I

2337
01:56:08,920 --> 01:56:11,640
Speaker 7: know the shame of special is incarnate word plus two points.

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01:56:11,680 --> 01:56:12,400
Speaker 5: I don't hate that.

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01:56:12,800 --> 01:56:17,080
Speaker 7: Because the temperature in this game the highest twenty seven degrees. Yes,

2340
01:56:17,160 --> 01:56:19,800
Speaker 7: these teams played earlier this year, back in September. It

2341
01:56:19,880 --> 01:56:22,920
Speaker 7: was also in South Dakota. The temperature was seventy two degrees.

2342
01:56:22,960 --> 01:56:25,040
Speaker 7: It was a very high scoring game. I do not

2343
01:56:25,280 --> 01:56:27,680
Speaker 7: think it is going to be that today, not only

2344
01:56:27,720 --> 01:56:29,360
Speaker 7: the weather, but also second time these.

2345
01:56:29,280 --> 01:56:30,680
Speaker 5: Teams have faced each other this year.

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01:56:30,880 --> 01:56:35,240
Speaker 7: You have two great defenses, especially South Dakota State, averaging

2347
01:56:35,360 --> 01:56:37,480
Speaker 7: just nine point two points per game allowed since.

2348
01:56:37,320 --> 01:56:39,400
Speaker 5: That Incarnate Ware game. Under fifty four and a half.

2349
01:56:39,480 --> 01:56:42,200
Speaker 7: How about it over in the salute to the Veterans Bowl.

2350
01:56:42,200 --> 01:56:44,440
Speaker 7: That's gonna be a theme here with these last two picks.

2351
01:56:44,560 --> 01:56:47,040
Speaker 7: South Alabama, Western Michigan over fifty seven and a half.

2352
01:56:47,040 --> 01:56:48,360
Speaker 7: I'd be lying to you if I said I'd watched

2353
01:56:48,400 --> 01:56:51,320
Speaker 7: one second of Western Michigan this year, but it allowed

2354
01:56:51,320 --> 01:56:53,600
Speaker 7: thirty points in half of their games, and three of

2355
01:56:53,600 --> 01:56:56,200
Speaker 7: those games were wins. So let's get a shootout in

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01:56:56,240 --> 01:56:59,120
Speaker 7: this first Bowl game. And the over in Army Navy

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01:56:59,200 --> 01:57:01,560
Speaker 7: it is thirty nine. We've seen a slight move up

2358
01:57:01,600 --> 01:57:03,840
Speaker 7: with this total. I think it is the right move.

2359
01:57:04,080 --> 01:57:06,560
Speaker 7: Army huge increase in their offensive out but this year,

2360
01:57:06,680 --> 01:57:07,480
Speaker 7: same with Navy.

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01:57:07,640 --> 01:57:09,480
Speaker 5: Over thirty nine in Army Navy.

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01:57:09,760 --> 01:57:10,240
Speaker 1: Like it a lot.

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01:57:10,320 --> 01:57:13,280
Speaker 6: Okay, so we're on the same side in terms of

2364
01:57:13,320 --> 01:57:16,520
Speaker 6: the total. Over thirty nine on Army Navy.

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01:57:16,840 --> 01:57:18,960
Speaker 1: How about this, I'm taking.

2366
01:57:18,760 --> 01:57:21,720
Speaker 6: Navy plus the six and a half. I like the

2367
01:57:21,760 --> 01:57:25,120
Speaker 6: mid chipman. I like the passing game that they employed

2368
01:57:25,160 --> 01:57:28,080
Speaker 6: this season. I like the play action stuff they do.

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01:57:28,360 --> 01:57:30,720
Speaker 6: I think they'll catch Armies defense sleep in a couple

2370
01:57:30,760 --> 01:57:31,280
Speaker 6: of times.

2371
01:57:31,560 --> 01:57:33,360
Speaker 1: This is going to be a high scoring affair.

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01:57:33,880 --> 01:57:36,440
Speaker 6: Two good teams facing each other in the Army Navy

2373
01:57:36,440 --> 01:57:39,440
Speaker 6: game this year nineteen combined wins.

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Speaker 1: I mean, just a ton of fun. Okay. Moving on

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01:57:42,720 --> 01:57:44,400
Speaker 1: to the NFL for my final pick.

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01:57:44,440 --> 01:57:48,360
Speaker 6: Here in rapid Fire, give me the Giants dog by

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01:57:48,400 --> 01:57:52,800
Speaker 6: a million. Here, who come on, Baltimore favored by sixteen.

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01:57:52,920 --> 01:57:55,680
Speaker 1: I'm taking the points. I'm eating them up. This is

2379
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Speaker 1: the NFL. These players play for something.

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01:57:59,400 --> 01:58:01,600
Speaker 6: I know it's a lost season for the Giants, but

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Speaker 6: all of these New York Giants football players are auditioning

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Speaker 6: for their next job. They're gonna put up a fight.

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Speaker 6: Give me the sixteen points.

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Speaker 1: In New York.

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Speaker 4: I love it, Okay, I'll hit you with a couple

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Speaker 4: of props. First off, Justice Hill, Raven's running back. I

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Speaker 4: head it for you and prop it up. Just makes

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Speaker 4: sense to me. Over fifteen and a half rushing yards

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Speaker 4: against those feisty giants of yours, rich right, I expect

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Speaker 4: a pretty comfortable lead.

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Speaker 3: You're not gonna run Dereck Henry straight into the ground.

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Speaker 4: So Justice Hill gets a couple of carries, he gets

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Speaker 4: over fifteen and a half rush yards. Give me Carolina

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Speaker 4: Panthers quarterback Bryce Young over thirteen and a half rush yards.

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Speaker 4: He ran it seven times last week. He's tucking it

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Speaker 4: and running. He's showing his athletic ability. So against the Cowboys,

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Speaker 4: I think there are some rushing yards to be gained

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Speaker 4: from him.

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Speaker 3: And then I'll go with the side.

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Speaker 4: Give me Tampa Bay plus three at the Chargers. Herbert

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Speaker 4: a little bit nicked up. Not the same juice offensively

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Speaker 4: without JK. Dobbins. That's what I'm on. Good stuff. Enjoy

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Speaker 4: the weekend.