1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: Chapping everybody. Happy for Friday to all of you. 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 2: Happy Black Friday, however you want to refer to it, 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 2: but happy Thanksgiving. Glad you were with us tonight on 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:11,799 Speaker 2: Texans All Access with me and your host John Harris 5 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 2: Foot playing outside the Reporter alongside the voice the Texans, 6 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 2: Mark vandermir Mark. First of all, Happy Thanksgiving, Happy Black Friday. 7 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 2: This is I think the greatest weekend. I don't even 8 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 2: sounding really a weekend, but I guess it is in 9 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 2: all sports, because yes, the football is fantastic, but you 10 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 2: got Maui Invitational going on. 11 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:34,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, I watched some of that. 12 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 2: You got NBA with the Cup that's happening, and the 13 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 2: Rockets have been playing really well. 14 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 15 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 2: I mean I always used to love coming home from 16 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 2: Brown on this weekend and just sitting in front of 17 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 2: the TV. My season was over, you know, didn't have 18 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 2: to worry about offseason for a while, didn't have to 19 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 2: worry about when I was a senior, even going back 20 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 2: and playing football, and just would soak in all of 21 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 2: the Maui Invitational, the college game games, and of course 22 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 2: we've got a great one that's. 23 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: Gonna take place at College Station. 24 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 2: And then of course we've got this little game over 25 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 2: in Jacksonville that we have to take care of them 26 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 2: on Sunday as well. 27 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 28 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 3: I love the Maui and I love all this football stuff, 29 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 3: hot and cold, running football all weekend long, all extended 30 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 3: weekend long. I've actually done a game or done that tournament. 31 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:18,919 Speaker 3: When I was at U mass we played Cal in 32 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 3: the Maui and they had a player named Tony Gonzales 33 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 3: on the basketball, Yeah, who ended up being a pretty 34 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 3: good tight end. Yeah, so that was kind of fun. 35 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 3: They beat us. That was after Caliberry left. But let 36 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 3: me tell you that those tournaments are so special and 37 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 3: that's like kind of the granddaddy of them all. That 38 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 3: the Rainbow Classic was big then. I don't even know 39 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 3: if they still run that one. But I've been there 40 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 3: once too. I've been there, Vince Carter, I've been there. Yeah, yeah, 41 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 3: late Vince Carter. Yeah, it was it was cool. It 42 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 3: was cool to be there. It was cool to be there. 43 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 3: See North Carolina Purdue with Brian Cardinal was playing for 44 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 3: a pod of the time. So this is people are like, 45 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 3: these are old names. 46 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: Vandermere. I know, all right, give me a break, but 47 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: it was wrong. Brian Cardinal had the greatest nickname, the 48 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: human floor burn. That's awesome. 49 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 2: I was the greatest nickname I ever And when if 50 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 2: you if you're going wait a second, human floor burn, 51 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 2: Like if you think of floor burn, like this guy 52 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 2: had him all over his body. 53 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 1: That's just the way that he played. He was a 54 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: really good player. 55 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 2: But he was more known for diving his stands for 56 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 2: a ball, diving on the floor to save one in bounds. 57 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 2: I mean, he just was kind of the to do 58 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 2: it all, do everything for a Purdue back in the 59 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,399 Speaker 2: late nineties. But the human floor burn, it was such 60 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 2: a great name. 61 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: Awesome, you know it was. It was fun to do 62 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: those games. 63 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 3: And it's just fun to be a part of this 64 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 3: weekend with the Texans capping off Sunday for US anyway 65 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 3: with a noon kick against the Jaguars the teal As 66 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 3: I'm going to start calling them because I called the 67 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 3: Colts the Horseshoe. They are now the teal is Tennessee. 68 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 3: I need a good nickname for Tennessee. 69 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: We'll think about it, all right. 70 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 3: I don't want to call them the former Oilers. That's 71 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 3: no good. That's not the thing. But I definitely will 72 00:02:56,120 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 3: call Jacksonville, the Teal and Heal, the Titans, the fight Strunks. 73 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 3: Johnny I began the week saying, many times in Texans history, 74 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,519 Speaker 3: we have needed a win, We've thirsted for a win, 75 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 3: We've been starving for a win, and the Teal has 76 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 3: been there to serve one up to us, and it's 77 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 3: got to happen again on Sunday. You cannot enter this 78 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 3: by with a loss, with back to back losses, and 79 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 3: that would I don't even want to count. That would 80 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 3: be five of seven. No, no, no, no, no, no, 81 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 3: no no, it stops here. You beat the Teal, they 82 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 3: are done. Don't give them any sign of life. And 83 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 3: I look at the numbers and some of them. You know, 84 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 3: you look at Bigsby, Bigsby's back. Yeah, Bigsby could be 85 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 3: a bit of a problem. 86 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: Give us an issue last time, bigs b et. 87 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 3: You know you look at Thomas, other playmakers. You know, 88 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 3: Trevor has a nice day. No, don't turn it over, 89 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 3: don't do anything crazy. Stamiko, as you will hear in 90 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 3: a moment talking about that return game for them and 91 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 3: for the Texans, how big it is. And you always 92 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 3: like to point out how long it's been since you 93 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 3: play on grass and to do it so infrequently, and 94 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 3: I brought that up to him and he's very excited 95 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 3: about it. 96 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, playing on grass. Players love it. They love playing 97 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 2: on grass. And we're outside, so outside on grass, Green Bay, 98 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 2: perfect conditions. And that's the only other one. That's the 99 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 2: only other on the rest of the way. Uh No, 100 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 2: Kansas City. Kansas City will be the other one. And 101 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 2: that'll be dirt by then. That'll be hard. Yeah, that's 102 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 2: their that's their Kansas City dirt by the end of 103 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 2: the year. So that's what we'll face later. But before 104 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 2: we get to Demiko, want to hit this breaking news. 105 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 2: Actually he's breaking news around lunchtime today. Maddi Eberflus, I think, 106 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 2: to no one's surprise, is no longer the head coach 107 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 2: for the Chicago Bears. So a surprised No, probably not. 108 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 2: B Is it a good job? I think it's a 109 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 2: great job. 110 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 1: I think so. 111 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 3: I want to know how the management structure is going 112 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 3: to be his pole is going to stay there or 113 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 3: is he gone too? I want to know because if 114 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 3: I'm let's have a coach like Mike Vrabel, I want 115 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 3: control over the situation. I don't want a GM telling 116 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 3: me what to do and then making moves that I 117 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 3: might not approve of. I need I hate to say 118 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 3: full control, but I gotta say I think he deserves 119 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 3: a shot. Now he needs a general manager. Every coach 120 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 3: Kyle Shanna and you still need a general manager. 121 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: Andy Reid is a general manager, yeah, Bredviach. I mean 122 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: for a long time. 123 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 3: He's got full control over Hey, I don't want you 124 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 3: to sign that guy. 125 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 1: You know. Oh, good idea, GM, nice idea. I like that. 126 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 3: The GM's gonna being creative signings. I found this guy, 127 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 3: found that guy. What do you think? But the coach 128 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 3: who deserves it gets control great and I think Vrabel 129 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 3: deserves that if he wants that job. But again, who 130 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 3: knows what they are looking for? 131 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: Johnny? 132 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 3: Do they want Ben Johnson? Do you give Ben Johnson control? 133 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 3: I don't think so. Ben Johnson the offensive coordinator for Detroit. 134 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 3: So I don't know who they're gonna get. I think 135 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 3: it's a good job. I think there's a lot to 136 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 3: work with with Caleb he I know eber Flues has 137 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 3: to take all the heat because he's the top guy. 138 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 3: But Williams has to get that ball. Snap guys, get 139 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 3: this ball. Snap one thing about yesterday or a couple 140 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 3: of things, and I know it's been relived all day long, 141 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 3: but as that's happening, I'm thinking, Okay, no one figured 142 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 3: sack on second down. 143 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: But here we are. 144 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 3: If you're the Bears and we're out of range, not 145 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 3: only do we take a sack, we're out of field 146 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 3: goal range and we got to get back in field 147 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 3: goal range and we only have a down to do 148 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 3: it and limited time, so you had to just assess it. 149 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 3: The coach is could have banged the time out right 150 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 3: there and just explained everything, because it takes sixteen to 151 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 3: eighteen seconds. 152 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: To get your field goal. Younedized. 153 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 3: You could have called time out and then ran some 154 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 3: kind of hitch whatever you want to run, bang a timeout, 155 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 3: kick the field goal, hopefully you make it go to overtime, 156 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 3: or you as the seconds run off, you don't have 157 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 3: time to do this anymore because you've run out of 158 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 3: time to get your field goal. Unton without a clock stoppage. 159 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 3: So now you're thinking, Caleb, you just got to run 160 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 3: a play and get us ten fifteen or more yards 161 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 3: so we can bang a time out and call the 162 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 3: field goal. Caleb didn't do that quarterbacks got to see it. 163 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 3: Everyone can talk about offensive coordinator, head coach. The head 164 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,159 Speaker 3: coach has to send a memo at that point to 165 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 3: the OC. The head coach doesn't have a direct line 166 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 3: to the quarterback, does he, Johnny, No, it's the OC. 167 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, So how long was yeah? Yeah? 168 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 3: Yeah? 169 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: The play caller so they didn't have time to do 170 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: all that. The quarterback's got to be able to see it. 171 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 3: And look, did you rehearse this exact situation? Maybe not, 172 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 3: but you rehearsed enough situations to tell you this is 173 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 3: a fire drow. We got to get ten yards in 174 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 3: a timeout, so let's just do it unlimited time. And 175 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 3: they had plenty of time to get lined up and 176 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 3: make it happen. They were like wandering around. You know, 177 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 3: the Lions were celebrating the sack. What was that celebration? 178 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 3: I don't know, the crawl or whatever. That's crazy. It 179 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 3: was crazy. But you got to be able to snap 180 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 3: the ball. You might have been being able to catch 181 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 3: them out sides too. 182 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: You know, who's going to practice that situation from now on? 183 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 3: Thirty other two everybody, thirty others going to show it 184 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:49,239 Speaker 3: to the guys. 185 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: If he hasn't already. Yeah. I mean it's it's it's 186 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: already there. 187 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 2: I mean, it's the thing about it is, it's not 188 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 2: a difficult situation to think through, Like you took a 189 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 2: sack banging time out now, you know me. I had 190 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 2: an issue with the timeout they called earlier in the 191 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 2: down and series. 192 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, early in this I'm. 193 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 3: On record with the Thanksgiving Group. Johnny Harris right now 194 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 3: would say, what are you doing calling a time out? 195 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 3: Because it was third and seven from the three. 196 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: It was third seven from the three. 197 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 2: So a penalty of delay a game, which is what 198 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 2: they were looking at, is only a yard and a half, right, Well. 199 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: Take the penalty. It's I mean, that's it. Take the time. 200 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: It's exactly right. 201 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 2: It looks like we needed it because what Eberflus was 202 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 2: trying to do at the end of the game, I 203 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 2: actually don't have a problem with. He was trying to 204 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 2: get to a point where after the third down play 205 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 2: he could bang the timeout so they could use the 206 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 2: entire field and the third down. 207 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: Play you got to run the play right, run the play, 208 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: call the time out, kick the game time, field goal, 209 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 1: and away you go. 210 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 2: But it would have been easier if you had the 211 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 2: two timeouts, which you should have had just called the 212 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 2: time out, of call the time out after second gets 213 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 2: set up, you could still save the last timeout, but 214 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 2: you didn't have that because you called the one back 215 00:08:56,559 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 2: there that you should never have taken. Now, question SHO 216 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 2: becomes at that point Caleb banged the timeout. So was 217 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 2: Caleb calling the timeout or did somebody tell him to 218 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 2: take time out? 219 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: Or did I refuse run down? 220 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 2: Either way, point being that game yesterday was another in 221 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 2: a line of winnable games for. 222 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: The Bears, and there have been many, and there have 223 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:16,959 Speaker 1: been many. 224 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 2: The hail Mary against the Commanders, the blockfield goal against 225 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 2: the Packers, the deplorable ending of yesterday's games. 226 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: That's three. 227 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 3: Let's just say you get two of them to go 228 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 3: your way. You're not fired at that point. Here's the 229 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 3: other thing about yesterday. And you and I noticed this. 230 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 3: If a doone, say, keeps running, it doesn't hold up 231 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 3: on that route. That ball's dropping right into his lap. 232 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 3: He's able to catch that ball. He might score. I 233 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 3: think he's going to score. I think he could drag 234 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 3: guys into the end zone. What the momentum he would 235 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 3: have The throw was a good throwt under those after 236 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 3: everything that went wrong. He actually made a good throat. 237 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 3: He was bracketed. But if a Doonesay doesn't just stop 238 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 3: his route to look for the ball, he's catching that 239 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 3: ball and probably score. 240 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 2: Probably walking into the enze because there was there were 241 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 2: some Honolulu Blue around him, but not in the direction 242 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 2: that he was going. 243 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 3: Everybody was moving, Yeah, and he could have momentum could 244 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 3: have carried him into the end zone with maybe people 245 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 3: making contact. 246 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 2: Yes, I think that. I think Detroit was as shocked 247 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 2: as what was going on any about. To be honest, 248 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 2: I think they were kind of like, what are they doing? 249 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: The good teams win games like that. Yeah, they're exactly right. 250 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 3: They win games and blowouts. They win games like that. 251 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 3: You know, you whatever done your leg in a situation 252 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 3: the opponent does, and you go ahead and win the game. 253 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 3: And that's what they've done. And they have one loss 254 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 3: and it's incredible. 255 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 2: And looking here, Cowboys now five and seven. When last 256 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 2: tun ROADBA Commanders beat the Giants. Good win for Cooper 257 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 2: Rush and Cowboys twenty seven to twenty. 258 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: We needed them to win for BCS points. 259 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely so I think we should go up 260 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 2: in the BCS. There's no question and then in a 261 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 2: night cap, the Dolphins end up losing a future opponent. 262 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:54,959 Speaker 1: We'll see them in a couple of weeks. 263 00:10:55,000 --> 00:11:00,080 Speaker 2: Predictable though, Dolphins lose in the cold of Lambeau and 264 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 2: they are now five and seven. They won three in 265 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 2: a row. Packers get to win. Not too totally surprised 266 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 2: with that. And then you've got games on Sunday. We'll 267 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:09,839 Speaker 2: get to that end a little bit. 268 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: Now. 269 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 2: Texas played Jaguars and every single week that we have 270 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 2: a game, Mark sits down with the Miko Ryans for 271 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 2: a little pregame interview. 272 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 3: And here it is, coach, let's start with the third phase. 273 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 3: Here is your face, Jacksonville. And the return guys are good. 274 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:26,959 Speaker 3: They could be dangerous in this category, right. 275 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's starting off. They have a really good cover unit, right, 276 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 4: cover unit is really good. They're a really good punter. 277 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 4: We have to try to defeat that. We got to 278 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 4: try to get a big return on these guys. And 279 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 4: it's going to be our guys. How long can we block? 280 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 4: How long can we hold up and make smart decisions 281 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 4: on the return unit and then the kick return as well. 282 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 4: It's going to be about our lane discipline, Like how 283 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 4: are we covering everybody exactly where they're supposed to be 284 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 4: swarming in football, and make sure we get their returners 285 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 4: on the ground. 286 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 3: Okay, now, let's talk about their defense a little bit. 287 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 3: You got to knock these guys out of the way 288 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 3: get the ground game going. They have some good ticklers 289 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 3: on this team. 290 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, really good tacklers especially, you know, their linebackers do 291 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 4: a really good job. Long athletic linebackers that fly around. 292 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 4: Good tacklers. For us, it's just can we consistently sustain 293 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 4: blocks again, That'll be the key. 294 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 5: It's we've been on guys and we've kind of fill 295 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 5: off that time. 296 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 4: But if we can sustain blocks, especially at the second level, 297 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 4: if we can get on their linebackers and keep a 298 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 4: hat on them to allow Joe to hit the crease, 299 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 4: and we'll have really productive day in the run game. 300 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 1: All right. 301 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 3: Semi related, maybe it's your first time on grass since 302 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 3: Green Bay. 303 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: How does that affect things? If at all? 304 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 4: Wow, it'll be refreshing toast play football on grass, which is, 305 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 4: you know how you want to play it. But it's 306 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 4: all it'll be good. It's always fun. I think it's 307 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 4: easier on the body as well. When you're playing on 308 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,319 Speaker 4: the grass as a little bit more give to it, 309 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 4: you know, just the one thing you hope is just 310 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 4: not a slippery situation. 311 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 5: So you hope. 312 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 4: Guys have good footing in the grass and just play 313 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 4: fast all right. 314 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 3: Offensively, these backs that they have, Bigsby et N, they're 315 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 3: very good and they can get things going on when 316 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 3: they're on their game. 317 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, really really nice one to you know, one two 318 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 4: combo where you know bigs b or ETN. They both 319 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,839 Speaker 4: have similar run styles. Biggs By is getting more of 320 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 4: the carries now physical. Really, you have to put your 321 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 4: body on him. If you try to arm tackle this guy, 322 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 4: he's gonna run right through it, right, really physical, strong runner. 323 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 4: And the ETN he's a guy who has the juice 324 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 4: ready to take it to the house. So it's about 325 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 4: eliminating space in the run game, everybody playing their gap, 326 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,839 Speaker 4: getting off of blocks and eliminating space. Not giving these 327 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 4: guys even the slightest crease. 328 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 3: I asked you this from time to time, But the 329 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 3: passion you want to see plus technique, and sometimes it's 330 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 3: hard to combine both. 331 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: How do you see that at this point of the year. 332 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely want the technique always want the technique, but 333 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 4: what I want to see from our I want to 334 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 4: see the fire, right tackup. I want to see the 335 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 4: passion for the game, just the love of the game. 336 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 4: Pick up. I know we've been going at it for 337 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 4: a lot of consecutive weeks now without having a break, 338 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 4: and we'll get a break next week. And what I 339 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 4: want our guys to do is just just exhaust everything, 340 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 4: everything that you have. I want them to empty the tank, 341 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 4: leave it all on the field. Play with that fire, 342 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 4: play with that passion, and that'll lead us to victory. 343 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: Sounds great, coach, Thanks a lot of good luck. 344 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 5: Thanks Mark all. 345 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: Right, great stuff as always. 346 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 2: And if we're gonna have one linebacker or former linebacker, 347 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 2: we're gonna have the other captain of defense. A Z's 348 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 2: out Shire These sat down with Drew Doherty. This was 349 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 2: fun because I saw Drew after the interview and he 350 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 2: just looked at me and says, I want a ZZ 351 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 2: to retire a Texan. 352 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: He's so happy with the interview. So here it is. 353 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 6: That's right. Azs is with us now, and Azaz, you're 354 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 6: a captain, your team leader, and first things first, what 355 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 6: must change over what's happened over the last month and change. 356 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 7: Oh man, it's just been some inconsistent football. Truthfully, obviously 357 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 7: we know the potential that we have, but potential if 358 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 7: it's not. 359 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 5: Executed, you know, it means nothing. 360 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 7: So I think everybody in the building understands, like now 361 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 7: more than ever there to see that you have to 362 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 7: have in this league in general, but especially a month 363 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 7: of November December like this is this is where it's 364 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 7: crunch time and you gotta be playing your best ball 365 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 7: and if you're not, you need to figure it out 366 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 7: a sat because you don't have time and losing a 367 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 7: game like how we just lost last week on Sunday. 368 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 7: You know, it was tough, so definitely got to bounce back, 369 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 7: learn from it, and get ready for today's game. 370 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 6: You know, the week of practice we heard wednesday Damiko 371 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 6: Ryan say Man, I was really enthused by what I 372 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 6: saw today. I'm paraphrasing what he said, but he liked 373 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 6: what he saw as a leader. What have you seen 374 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 6: in that regard as far as what went down to 375 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 6: practice and the response after what happened. 376 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 7: Just a whole bunch of guys like with a mentality 377 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 7: and an attitude ready. 378 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 5: To get back to work. 379 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 7: That's the biggest thing is a lot of times, just 380 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 7: as players and even coaches, you know, they like to say, 381 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 7: oh man, this. 382 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 5: Is is a game. Man, it's the best thing in 383 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 5: the world. This isn't a job. 384 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 7: But reality is, this is a business and this is 385 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 7: a profession. And just like anybody who does a profession, 386 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 7: they don't always show up to work feeling good. You know, 387 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 7: some days you show up to work and you don't 388 00:15:58,080 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 7: want to be there. Some days you show up to 389 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 7: work and you got something else going on at home, 390 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 7: but you still got to do your job. 391 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 5: And I think that's what it's really about. 392 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 7: It's regardless of what's going on, not acting like it 393 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 7: doesn't exist, but realizing that whatever is going on externally 394 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 7: cannot get in a way of you getting your job done. 395 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 5: And I think that's that's the mindset we have to have. 396 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 6: Speaking about getting jobs done in a different regard. Since 397 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 6: the start of week six, you guys have absolutely positively 398 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 6: as a team gotten the job done as far as 399 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 6: getting takeaways versus turning the ball over turnover differential. Just 400 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 6: since the start of week six, Texans are plus twelve 401 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 6: overall on the season, plus nine. Only two teams in 402 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 6: the NFL better on the season than that. What's been 403 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 6: going on taking the ball away though since that New 404 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 6: England game, because every single game you guys have won 405 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 6: that turnover battle except for once, and the only time 406 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 6: you didn't win it, you were even. 407 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 7: It's crazy because it's like it's the same things that 408 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 7: we always preach. And I think it's so crazy because 409 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 7: you understand that they say, you know, what's the definition 410 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 7: of insanity doing the same thing over and over expecting 411 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 7: a different result. But it's like when you can see, 412 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 7: like you can see it come like it was different 413 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 7: plays earlier on in the season, whether it's me dropping 414 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 7: the interception, the two interceptions against the Bills, or like 415 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 7: somebody punching the ball out, but it it hit the 416 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 7: sideline instead of standing in bound. So it's like, you know, like, man, 417 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 7: we just consistently keep doing these same things. 418 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 5: Now the sack is turning into strip sacks. 419 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 7: I mean d Hunt had like three sacks early in 420 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 7: the season where he could have stripped the ball out, 421 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,360 Speaker 7: but he just wanted the sacks, so he got the sack. 422 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 7: Whereas now later on, like from really that Patriots game on, 423 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 7: you know, all these guys that are getting sacks are 424 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 7: now turning them into strip sacks. So it's just constantly 425 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 7: just working on your craft, doing the same thing over 426 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,360 Speaker 7: and over, and you see the reward and the benefits 427 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 7: start to start to come from it. And that's why 428 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 7: we talk about playing your best late. It's all about 429 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 7: everything coming together. 430 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 6: No doubt, and it's been remarkable seeing what you guys 431 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 6: have been able to do just in that regard as 432 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 6: far as taking the ball away in that span. All right, 433 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 6: let's talk about the Jaguars. The talk in Jacksonville is 434 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 6: they want to run the ball better, they want to 435 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 6: do things better on the ground. Tank Bigsby, Traves YTM 436 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 6: the two backs there, What do you see from them? 437 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 5: What's the present? 438 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 7: I think they're both really good backs, you know, really talented. 439 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 7: Both got a lot of speed, and I think Bigsby 440 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 7: right now is leading the league and yards after contact. 441 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,439 Speaker 7: I think he has less than half of the carries 442 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 7: as all the other guys that he's competing with. But 443 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 7: both really two dynamic backs eat can make plays out 444 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 7: of the backfield. I mean obviously as a slasher as well, 445 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 7: and so I think it's just what they're able to do. 446 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 7: They do a lot of everything well, and you gotta play 447 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 7: him well. You gotta be physical, you gotta swarm my 448 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 7: whole mentality, everything that we talk about. 449 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:30,199 Speaker 5: You got to bring everything. 450 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 6: The quarterback is Trevor Lawrence. He's practiced this week, he's 451 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 6: missed the last two games. All likelihood he plays, maybe 452 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 6: he doesn't, but let's talk about Trevor Lawrence because he's 453 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 6: the starter there. What's Trevor Lawrence do well? And what 454 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 6: do you remember about him from the first meeting earlier 455 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 6: this season. 456 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 5: I think you could throw the ball really well. 457 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 7: That's a part of why he was seeing as like 458 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 7: this generational talent coming out, just the ability for him 459 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 7: to throw the ball downfield. I mean, he made a 460 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 7: couple throws in the first game that we played him 461 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 7: that I was like, dang, Like I remember this one 462 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 7: time even I got to him and I thought I 463 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 7: got sack, and he freaking launched the ball downfield like 464 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 7: it ended up being incompletion. 465 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 5: But that's still one of those players. 466 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 7: They're like, dang, Like most other quarterbacks, I would have 467 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,120 Speaker 7: had a sack or at least like it would have 468 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 7: been a way more effective play. Whereas he was able 469 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 7: to throw the ball almost forty fifty yards. 470 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 5: Downfield while getting hit in the mouth. 471 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 7: So I think it's little things like that, that toughness 472 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 7: that he has, and even his ability to get out 473 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,239 Speaker 7: of sacks and run the ball a little bit, and 474 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 7: just this toughness overall that makes it challenging the play against. So, 475 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 7: you know, I'm always excited, especially when we're going back 476 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 7: to Florida, you know, being from Florida. So I'm always 477 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 7: excited to go back back to Florida and just know 478 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 7: I'm I'm in the state of Florida. 479 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 6: You kind of lead into my next question. What sort 480 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 6: of representation you're gonna have there in the stands fan wise, 481 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 6: you're gonna have to do a lot, a few more 482 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 6: tickets than normal. 483 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 7: Yeah, my family is playing it on coming, so I 484 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 7: would be good to see everybody. 485 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 5: I'll be exciting for sure. 486 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 6: Who's gonna be the loudest family member in the stands 487 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 6: that you'll be able to hear? 488 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 5: I already either say my mom or one of my nephews, 489 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 5: which nephew my oldest. 490 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 7: His name is a Mirror and he's like fourteen years 491 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 7: old now, but he's like, my god, he was my 492 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 7: biggest fan. 493 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 6: That's awesome. Uncle is so uncle, Ziz, what's a mere 494 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 6: gonna be yelling? What's your mom gonna be yelling? That? 495 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 6: That sets it apart and you can kind of tell 496 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 6: it's them. 497 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 7: Well, my mom will be yelling stuff that I probably 498 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 7: can't repeat, but the miror he'll probably just be yelling 499 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 7: my name and just be trying to get my attention. 500 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 7: And when I make a place like he's it's so 501 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 7: funny whenever I call him. I always call all of them, 502 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 7: all my nieces and nephews and my mom before the games, 503 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 7: like the night before the day of the game, or 504 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 7: we're in the locker room, and he's always. 505 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 4: Like, oh, that team's not good. Oh I'm like, you 506 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 4: know this a little kid fourteen year olds? Man literally 507 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 4: do not understand like how this works. Everybody's good. It's 508 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 4: the NFL. But yeah, man, he just be cheering me on. 509 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 5: Man. So I'll be happy to see him. 510 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 6: Well, hopefully a mirror. Your mom and the rest of 511 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 6: the crew were talking with you after the game after 512 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 6: Texans victory and one in which you play a fantastic job, 513 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 6: but a Zase, thank you so much for the time. 514 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 6: Best of luck on Sunday against the Jacks. 515 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 5: Thanks for having me. 516 00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: Great stuff. 517 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 2: I told Drew before the interview, I said, you ever 518 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 2: talked to Disease And he goes no, I said you may 519 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 2: talk to him for forty five minutes. 520 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: I said, just get ready because a he's al Shire is. 521 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 2: One of the guys you absolutely, without question, you want 522 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 2: to have on your team in your community. 523 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: He is. He's tremendous. 524 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 3: That's what you and I came away with when we 525 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,640 Speaker 3: talked to him during that production. I've been raving about 526 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 3: him ever since, and every time I see him in 527 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 3: the hallway, Hey Mark, Yeah, absolutely say. 528 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 1: We remember we were. Now. 529 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 3: Look, you're not expected to remember everybody's name. I've been 530 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 3: in the Texans for a lot of years, or since 531 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 3: the inception of the franchise, and it's tough for me 532 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 3: to remember everybody in business. Ops here, look at one 533 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 3: hundred and fifty people. Now we've got a little you know, 534 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 3: changeover from time to time. But asease for him to 535 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 3: know me. He doesn't have to. You know, the support 536 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,439 Speaker 3: staff that he works with, the athletic trainers and coaches 537 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 3: and people like that. Yeah, sure me no, but he 538 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 3: does because he's a he's al Shier. He is a 539 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 3: man among men, and yes, I want him to have 540 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 3: a lifetime contract here some sort. 541 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. 542 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 2: Absolutely, he is just so much fun to be around. 543 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 2: His story is absolutely incredible. He's a great player, and 544 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 2: he probably will be challenged on Sunday in a dual 545 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 2: threat way having to stop ETM Bigsby. But then also 546 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 2: in whatever respect, the Jaguars use Evan Ingram. Sometimes he's 547 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 2: in line tight end, sometimes he's in a slot. 548 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: But we he didn't play last time. It's exactly right. 549 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 1: I did not miss him, but I know the Jags 550 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: missed him last time. 551 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 2: The Jags did miss some shot plays. I think I 552 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,919 Speaker 2: think back to Week twelve last year. Christian Kirk was 553 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 2: a big, big factor in that game. He is out 554 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 2: for the season. Gabe Davis went to the Jaguars. He 555 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 2: was a big freegent signing. He is out. So from 556 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 2: a receiver standpoint, it's Brian Thomas Junior and Evan. 557 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 1: Ingram, depending on how you want to want to slice it. 558 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 2: So the guys defensively are going to have their hands 559 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 2: full with those two guys. I would imagine they'll probably 560 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 2: try and take some shots with Brian Thomas down the 561 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,199 Speaker 2: field because a Brian Thomas is really freaking fast and 562 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 2: b We have been giving up the deep shots more 563 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 2: than we should have. So I expect Brian Thomas Junior 564 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,360 Speaker 2: to be a big factor in this game. I think 565 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 2: he's gonna get targeted about ten to twelve times. I think 566 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 2: that Evan Ingram will be targeted about ten to twelve times. 567 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 2: I think Trevor Lawrence is gonna play, and I think 568 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 2: those are the two guys he throws to. 569 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 3: All Right, I know you're gonna do your keys in 570 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,479 Speaker 3: the next segment, but one of my big keys is 571 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 3: if you happen to give up a shot play, you 572 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:25,120 Speaker 3: give up a big play. 573 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: Yep, that's not the end of the world. 574 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 3: Just move on, because we all know the other side 575 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 3: of the ball has to do their part. They've got 576 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 3: to score it. You have to outscore the opponent. This 577 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 3: is brilliant analysis. You can only get right here. All right, 578 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 3: so more than theirs. 579 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: But again, you're gonna give up some plays. It's the NFL. 580 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 3: You're going to take some chances and that's just the 581 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 3: way it goes. But you better eat on some of 582 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 3: the other downs, negative plays, takeaways. You lead the league 583 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,400 Speaker 3: in takeaways, right now, let's go. Let's have at it, 584 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 3: because that takeaway train has to keep rolling. Look, I 585 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,640 Speaker 3: know you've twelve in the last six weeks and you've 586 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 3: gone two and four. That is weird, that's ridiculous. You 587 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 3: should have at least gone four and two leading the 588 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 3: well with what is it twelve? 589 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: You have twelve? 590 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,120 Speaker 3: You'r plus twelve plus twelve in the last six weeks. 591 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 3: That's insane. But it will eventually find its level. Okay, 592 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 3: you're gonna win more than you. 593 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 2: Lose as long as as long as you keep making 594 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 2: those plays, as long as you keep turning teams over. 595 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 2: And Jacksonville is a team that does turn the ball over. 596 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 2: They're minus eight in takeover margin. We played them in 597 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 2: Week four. Prior to that game, they had zero takeaways, 598 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 2: zero takeaways. Some wow, Now they'll be sixteen giveaways and 599 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 2: eight takeaways, so they've they've kind of made up some time. 600 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 2: But still those the defense that's ranked near the bottom 601 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 2: of almost every defensive category, and they've got some talent 602 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 2: on that team. 603 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 3: Some of the numbers with the Jaguars are appallingly bad, 604 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 3: and their fans should be livid that they are. 605 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 1: Going through this right now with that kind of talent. 606 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 3: You started the segment with what do you think of 607 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,880 Speaker 3: the Bear's job as a head coaching vacancy? And if 608 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:08,439 Speaker 3: we just go that versus either known openings or projected openings, 609 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 3: let's say for purposes of argument, that Peterson's gone in Jacksonville. 610 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 3: I still think Jacksonville is a pretty good job. Looking 611 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 3: for the cons, I know Tony wants to sign undrafted 612 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 3: free agents, I get it, But if you can just 613 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 3: entertain Tony in the draft room, yeah, Tony, okay, Yeah, 614 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 3: it's son. 615 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: A kicker, a long snapper. That's your job. You know. 616 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 3: If I were the new GM, because in this hypothetical 617 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 3: they'll have a new GM of the Jaguars, I would 618 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 3: do my best to schedule an All American wrestling event 619 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 3: the night of the draft. 620 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 1: The night of the draft. 621 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 3: It didn't stop it on Saturday night, So Tony, I 622 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 3: know it didn't. Did he have an event that Yes, 623 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 3: it was Saturday night. Many you kept going it was ridiculous. 624 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 2: I mean it's you know, look, cons can do whatever 625 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 2: they want their their mind, of course, but. 626 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: You know it, you will find the McNair's doing that. 627 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 3: Hannah is not on the phone signing undrafted free agents. 628 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 1: No, she's not. They don't do this well. 629 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,360 Speaker 2: They and that's the thing because they understand that they've 630 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:10,719 Speaker 2: hired people to do that. 631 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 3: Can you imagine being Doc Peterson and Trent Balkey and 632 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 3: and the owner's son is making phone calls to try 633 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 3: to sign guys. Come on, Johnny Football. People are like, 634 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 3: what I when I saw that, I've seen the segment. 635 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 3: You have to see this segment. It's all I think. 636 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 3: It's on NFL Film's presents. 637 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 2: And they did like a twenty four hours with Tony 638 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 2: Kahan and Tony the night before the draft started, they 639 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 2: did an aw event and he got power bombed, which 640 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 2: essentially is like not it's not a body slam, but 641 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 2: it's like a head slam. 642 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: Okay. 643 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 2: And so the next day he showed up with the 644 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 2: old school like Brady Bunch neck brace, you know, like 645 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 2: the phone neck brace, and he wore that throughout the 646 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 2: entire draft, and they were filming him in the draft 647 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 2: room and the guys I remember seeing on the NFL 648 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:56,919 Speaker 2: network were like what, they didn't get it because they 649 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 2: didn't understand one person up there I think knew about 650 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 2: out to the AW thing. And so they start talking 651 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 2: through it and the rest of the guys are incredulous 652 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 2: to it. But then the segment went on NFL Film's 653 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 2: Presents and started talking about Tony. He was kind of 654 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 2: a cutaway and he's like, yeah, yeah, I really pride 655 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 2: myself on going out and signing undrafted free agents, and 656 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 2: every year one of my undrafted free agents has made 657 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 2: the team. 658 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 3: Come on, But he never gave a list of those guys, Robinson, 659 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 3: he never talked about any names. 660 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 2: And then they showed him leaving the draft room, walking 661 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 2: across the parking lot, going to Jacksonville vettersmil Colseum which 662 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 2: I don't know what it's called now and doing aw 663 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 2: event over there. And then they showed a little while 664 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 2: later showed Shot Cohn is dad. 665 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 1: Going over there? Is that what the iceman play the 666 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: Jackson Yeah. Yeah, they've they've really improved that place. They've 667 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 1: got a game tomorrow night there. 668 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, they've got a game, because the place where we 669 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 3: want to go watch the Longhorns. 670 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 1: I tried to get a resie there. 671 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 3: They said, we don't do Rezi's, but you'll probably be 672 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 3: in good shape because a lot of seats will empty 673 00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 3: out when people go across the street to the Iceman. 674 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 1: Interesting. 675 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, that place is owned by the brother of one 676 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,679 Speaker 2: of my former students. Oh really yeah, so Ben Davis 677 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 2: started that and his brother, his brother Jed younger brothers 678 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 2: who I I. 679 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: Talk and still have Juice and Jacksonville Johnny. I know people, 680 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 1: but not not like not like I like. 681 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 3: If I were there, hypothetically we're there for a primetime game. 682 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,959 Speaker 3: You will remember play preseason because they're in the division. 683 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 3: But I would love to play because I would practices 684 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 3: go down there. No, I would say, yeah, joint practice 685 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 3: at the divisional put But I'd be like all over 686 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:32,919 Speaker 3: it because I want to go to Sawgrass. 687 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,360 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, did you get us on Sawgrass? I want 688 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: to know somebody that could probably get us there. 689 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 2: Now, the one, the one guy that I I know 690 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 2: or that I knew, Unfortunately he passed away with als. 691 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 2: My friend Henry Tip Graham. Tip would have done anything 692 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 2: for us. Like I got to said to Tip Tip, 693 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 2: we need a thirty five foot limo for this weekend 694 00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 2: and Tip would say, yacht, No, well have that Tip, 695 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 2: Tip would it? 696 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: Definitely. 697 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 2: He used to be the president Chavor Commerce, one of 698 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 2: one of the one of my great friends and one 699 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 2: of the best people I've ever known, and I coached 700 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 2: his kids, and Alex went to dinner with us. You've 701 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 2: met Alex, and I mean just the sweetest, nicest family. 702 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 2: His wife Diane was just just such an angel. 703 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 1: I taught. 704 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 2: His older sister and I taught Alex. And Tip was 705 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 2: a huge fan of mine. Tip would have gotten us 706 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 2: anywhere like he would have He would have done anything 707 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 2: for us. 708 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 3: Late Sawgrass once a night game was it was the 709 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 3: thirteen with the night game. No, No, it was for 710 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,719 Speaker 3: the Gator Bowl with the Hurricanes. Oh, because we were 711 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 3: there for. 712 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: Like a week or whatever. You played Georgia Tech. Right, 713 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: We played Bill O'Brien's Georgia Tech. Right. 714 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 3: I remember that an assistant coach on that team, Gatzi, 715 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 3: was on that team. 716 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 2: I thought that I was supposed to go to that game, 717 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 2: and then something happened and I was not able to 718 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 2: go because I went to a bunch of Gator balls. 719 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 2: I'll tell you my favorite Gator Bowl story. You'll love 720 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 2: this one. It was West Virginia, North Carolina. So it 721 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 2: was like nineteen ninety six, and so you know West 722 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 2: Virginia fans, they traveled try pretty well. 723 00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: So you know back then the bowl games matter. 724 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 3: He's always been East acc back then, that's why it 725 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 3: was Hurricanes. 726 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 2: And so so my wife and I decided to go 727 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 2: because my wife's from North Carolina. I love going football 728 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 2: games to matts Man Heaven, We're gonna go. So we're 729 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 2: sitting up in the stands and about three rows in 730 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 2: front of us, we keep seeing. 731 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: This line of people like, like, what are they doing? 732 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 2: We couldn't couldn't understand what they were doing, and so 733 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 2: I said, I gotta go to the bathroom page. I'll 734 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 2: be right back, but I'm also gonna check and see 735 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 2: what they're doing. A West Virginia fan had snuck a 736 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 2: keg into the game. 737 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: Oh what, Yeah, that's so western. 738 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 2: I don't know how they did it, but they snuck 739 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 2: a keg into the game and they had it sitting 740 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 2: on a seat, and the fans knew, and they were 741 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 2: coming up with their red solo cups and they were kiddings. 742 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: From West Virginia without being I've ever seen. 743 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 2: It happened right there at the Bank as they call 744 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 2: now EverBank Stadium. 745 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's West Virginia fan. 746 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 2: And then a security guard came up with a cop 747 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 2: and told them that they had to leave and you 748 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 2: could see them like taking the keg down the stairs. 749 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: I was like, how did they get the keg in 750 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: the game? 751 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 2: And so my wife and I had discussion for about 752 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 2: twenty minutes like, Okay, they probably dressed. 753 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: It up and put it in a wheelchair. You said 754 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 1: what they did, like, how are they baby? Big? Yeah? 755 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: How'd they get the keg in the game? A very 756 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: big baby covered up here, and no idea how they 757 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: pulled it off. 758 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 2: But people kept coming up and that's how long line 759 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 2: was they were coming up to get beers. 760 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: It was absolutely incredible. 761 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 2: Hopefully that won't happen if you're a Texans fan in 762 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 2: the stands, you just go to the We'll go to 763 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 2: concessions and get a beer. That won't be any kegs, 764 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 2: I don't think at EverBank Stadium, but hopefully you'll be 765 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 2: there and enjoy. At Sunday one pm local time at 766 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 2: Jacksonville twelve o'clock. Here you hear the pregame show with 767 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 2: Sean and Seth, You hear the game with Mark Andre myself, 768 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 2: and then you hear the post game, which hopefully is 769 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 2: talking about a win for the good guys on Sunday, 770 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 2: how they will get there. Well, the key's the game, 771 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 2: I have them for you next right here on Texans 772 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 2: All Access. 773 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 1: What's happen everybody? 774 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 2: Welcome back to Friday Nashear of Texans All Acts. I'm 775 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 2: your host, John Harris, football analyst, sideline reporter for. 776 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: Your Houston Texas. 777 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 2: Getting ready to go to Newall County where I cut 778 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 2: my teeth early in my career as a coach, just 779 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 2: across the river from where we will be playing on Sunday, 780 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 2: e Piscowal High School. 781 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: And it was a great, great run. 782 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 2: But here with Houston and talking about football is one 783 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 2: of my favorite things to do in life, especially talking 784 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 2: about the keys to a game. I've been doing these 785 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 2: for about twenty some odd years and did it as 786 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 2: soon as I got into building here with the Houston Texans. 787 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: So let's get to it. It's give me some music 788 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: because I don't get me hyped as I do this, 789 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: and I'll. 790 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 2: Talk about the keys to win over the Jacksonville Jaguars. Okay, 791 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,959 Speaker 2: let's start with just kind of overall thought. Where the 792 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 2: Jaguars are. They've lost four in a row, lost the 793 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 2: Packers close. That was I think Malik Willis if I 794 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 2: remember correctly, you think Jordan Love got hurt and Malik came. 795 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: In either way, and they lost. 796 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 2: The Eagles traveled through an interception late in the game, 797 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 2: they lost by five. They lost to the Vikings by five, 798 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, it just imploded against 799 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 2: Detroit Lions, losing fifties fifty two to six in Detroit. 800 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 2: Trevor did not playing those last two games. Trevor Lawrence 801 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 2: is on track to play in this game, announced by 802 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 2: Doug Peterson earlier today that even though he's dealing with 803 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 2: an ac joint spray. Now I can speak to an 804 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 2: ac joint sprain. It is some of the worst pain 805 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 2: I've ever had playing any kind of sport. And I 806 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 2: severed the nerve in my finger. I had concussions of 807 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 2: ankle sprains. I mean, you know, you name it. I 808 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 2: had everything but broken bones. That ac joint sprain is 809 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 2: a son of a beat. It is miserable. But Trevor 810 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 2: has worked himself back. He missed two games, he had 811 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 2: the bye week, so he is ready to go. Trevor 812 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 2: Lawrence will be your Jaguars starting quarterback on Sunday. Jacks 813 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 2: are average one hundred two yards per game on the ground, 814 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 2: that's twenty fifth in the league. They're only average one 815 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,719 Speaker 2: hundred and eighty nine yards through the air, it's twenty seventh. 816 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 2: That number would be a lot higher had Trevor hit 817 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 2: some deep balls against the Texans in Week four. He 818 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 2: had a couple of three opportunities missed them that he 819 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 2: cannot do. The text the Jaguars. I throw nine picks, 820 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,760 Speaker 2: seven fumbles lost through minus eight turnover margin. 821 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 1: So let's talk about his offense. 822 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 2: First of all, I didn't do a key because of the 823 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 2: time I didn't know whether Trevor was going to start. 824 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,359 Speaker 1: I figured he was going to But what I did 825 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: was I thought through, if Trevor does start, who. 826 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,839 Speaker 2: Ends up being a key? What ends up being a key. 827 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 2: The first one is Evan Ingram. Evan Ingram didn't play 828 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 2: against us. He is tight end, really a name only, 829 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 2: and he'll line up there, but he's not really a 830 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 2: tight end. He doesn't really block like a tight end. 831 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,399 Speaker 2: He gives good efforts, he's willing, but. 832 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: He's not a tight end. 833 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 2: He's a pass catching, big pass catching wide receiver for 834 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 2: the Jaguars. He missed our first game, but he's back. 835 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 2: He came back in a game against the Bears. He 836 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 2: has been targeted forty five times since and I think 837 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 2: six games, so that's like seven and a half targets 838 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 2: a game. He is a guy that Lawrence relies on heavily, 839 00:34:55,840 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 2: and with no Jalen Peatrie for us at safety, that. 840 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 1: Probably means they're gonna probably pick it that a little bit. 841 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 2: Whether it's a he's a Shire, whether it's Jimmy Ward, 842 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 2: or whether it's Kaylen Bullock, Eric Murray the safety's lineback, 843 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 2: They're gonna go to Evan Ingram a bunch. I think 844 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 2: Evan Ingram is gonna see eight to ten targets. I 845 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 2: think another guy's gonna get eight to ten targets. We'll 846 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 2: talk about him in a second, but Evan Ingram, I 847 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 2: think we'll get eight to ten targets. Texas have got 848 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 2: to do a good job of tackling him in space. 849 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 2: He's really good after the catch, really good. Texas wll 850 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 2: miss Jalen Peatree. And one of the main reasons why 851 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:31,319 Speaker 2: is Evan Ingram now McKee number two is actually a 852 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 2: Texas daneil Hunter. The Vikings traded for Cam Robinson a 853 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 2: few weeks ago, who was a Jaguar starting left tackle 854 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 2: Houston native Walker Little, a twenty twenty one second round pick, 855 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 2: will It has been taking over. He's been banged up 856 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 2: throughout his CREB, but he's healthy and one healthy he 857 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 2: can be a solid pass protector. But he's seeing a 858 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 2: guy that is on a heater right now. Daniel Hunter 859 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 2: has been unbelievable. Last week three five TFLs Titans could 860 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 2: not stop him. I think they will struggle again with 861 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:11,280 Speaker 2: him finally. Brian Thomas Junior. If there's something that Texans 862 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:16,360 Speaker 2: defense has as an achilles heel, it is their inability 863 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,400 Speaker 2: to take away and completely eliminate explosive plays. 864 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 1: Brian Thomas Junior is inexplosive play waiting to happen now. 865 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 2: Back during the draft, everybody thought, well, you know, he's 866 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:29,920 Speaker 2: kind of a one trick pony. He just kind of 867 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 2: runs deep and they throw it to him. He's a 868 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 2: really big athlete. He is a complete wide receiver. He's 869 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,399 Speaker 2: one of the better rookie wide receivers I've ever seen 870 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 2: up close and in person. He can't be a major 871 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 2: major problem for the Texans, and I don't want that 872 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 2: to happen, but I think that could be the case. 873 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 2: So will the Texas travel Derrick Stingley Junior with Brian 874 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:50,760 Speaker 2: Thomas Junior. 875 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 1: Two LSU guys will they go out at one on 876 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:54,359 Speaker 1: one and they'll play everybody else. 877 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 2: Straight up because there is no Christian Kirk, there is 878 00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 2: no Gabe Davis. There's a Tim Joe and Devin Duverney. 879 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 2: But those guys really kind of pay in comparison to 880 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 2: the other two. So I think that Trevor will get 881 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 2: the ball to Evan Ingram, You'll get the ball to 882 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 2: Brian Thomas Junior. 883 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:13,360 Speaker 1: And you gotta know that going in. 884 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 2: And if the Texas Texas can slow those two down, 885 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,239 Speaker 2: and they've got a really good chance to keep this 886 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,879 Speaker 2: Jaguars offense out of the end zone and go get 887 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:23,360 Speaker 2: a win against the Jaguars. 888 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 1: All right, slipped it over to this defense now. 889 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 2: Ryan Nielsen took over this defense former Falcons defensive coordinator. 890 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,280 Speaker 2: I thought this defense would be better, just purely better. 891 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 2: They're given up one hundred and thirty six yards per 892 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 2: game in the ground. That's twenty six in the NFL. 893 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 2: Passing yards allowed per game two hundred and seventy eight, 894 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 2: it's last. 895 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 1: In the league. And they're given up four and fourteen 896 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 1: yards per game that's last in the league. 897 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 2: They've only generated eight turnovers, so they're minus eight and 898 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 2: turnover margin. The last time we played them week four, 899 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,239 Speaker 2: in the first three games they didn't even turnover a 900 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 2: team they were zero. But they've got pieces back, and 901 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 2: one in particulars Tyson Campbell. 902 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 1: In the game we played because Foyer. 903 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,800 Speaker 2: Lucon who will be back as well, was out, Ventro 904 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 2: Miller got to play and the Jags were like, oh 905 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:09,799 Speaker 2: my god, they found one hundred bucks in their pocket. 906 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 1: With Ventro Miller. 907 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 3: It's now. 908 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,400 Speaker 2: Ventro Miller has been a stud with the Jaguars defense. 909 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 1: So let's get into the keys against him, and I 910 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:17,280 Speaker 1: start with Foyer Luacun. 911 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:21,840 Speaker 2: Even though Ventro Miller has given them a lot in 912 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,760 Speaker 2: when Foyer was out and Devin Lloyd. 913 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,560 Speaker 1: Has done some good things, I still think this. 914 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:30,320 Speaker 2: Defense revolves around twenty three Foyer Luca and with Ventro 915 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:34,359 Speaker 2: Miller and with Devin Lloyd. This linebacking group looks ten 916 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 2: times better than it did even in Week four, and 917 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 2: that bothers me. 918 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 1: So if you see twenty three run. 919 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,880 Speaker 2: Stuff down from behind and tackling Joe Mixon because we 920 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:44,720 Speaker 2: can't get a. 921 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:48,239 Speaker 1: Hat on a hat early in the game. It's not 922 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:49,239 Speaker 1: a good thing. 923 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 2: Texans need to get a body on twenty three. 924 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 1: Occupy him. 925 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 2: Let Joe Mixon then do his thing, make cuts off 926 00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,799 Speaker 2: of those blocks and run the ball at one hundred 927 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 2: and thirty six yards per game. 928 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:02,879 Speaker 1: Clip as the Jaguars are giving up. 929 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 2: But they didn't get a hat on fifty one last time, 930 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:10,400 Speaker 2: Ventrel Miller. They better get one on twenty three. They 931 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 2: better get one on both of them. The guy to 932 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 2: control the down guys first. We'll get to them a 933 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 2: little bit, but keep it eye on twenty three and 934 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 2: fifty one. If they are running to the ball and 935 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 2: nobody's getting hats on them, they'll make plays all day. Secondly, 936 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 2: I mentioned the fact that the Jaguars are last last 937 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 2: in the NFL in past yardage given up two hundred 938 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,879 Speaker 2: and seventy eight yards per game, and last week Jared 939 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,319 Speaker 2: Goff lit them up. Now, there's been a lot of 940 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 2: scuttle bud about CJ nationally and even some locally. 941 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,160 Speaker 1: I'm here to tell you that CJ. Stroud is a godsend. 942 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 2: He is the absolute one player we need to have 943 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,280 Speaker 2: in this building for a number of reasons. 944 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 1: If you want to call it a slump or you 945 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 1: want to call what it is. 946 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,399 Speaker 2: He hasn't been protected this year, and because he hasn't 947 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,960 Speaker 2: been protected this year, it's probably impacted a lot of 948 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 2: throws that could have been there for a lot more 949 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 2: yards and a number of a number more touchdowns. He's 950 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 2: gotta be protected. We'll get to a little bit more 951 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:12,759 Speaker 2: of that. That's said. 952 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,920 Speaker 1: They can blow up this Jaguar secondary. They really can. 953 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,719 Speaker 2: With Tank, with Nico Metchi playing well, get x a 954 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,879 Speaker 2: big play, tight ends catching the ball, they can. They 955 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 2: can go for two seventy eight plus on this Jaguar secondary, 956 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,719 Speaker 2: and they need to. Now Tyson Campbell's back, that's gonna 957 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,240 Speaker 2: help them a little bit. Darnell Savage is back at safety. 958 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 1: But I still think they can light that secondary up. 959 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 2: But if they don't, there's gonna be a reason. And 960 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,560 Speaker 2: it leads me to the final key, and that's that 961 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 2: defensive front. Everybody knows about Josh Hein's Allen and Treyvon Walker. 962 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:44,920 Speaker 2: They do a good job on the edge, but Texans 963 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,880 Speaker 2: tackles Titus Howard, Lenmert Tunssel have done a decent job 964 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,960 Speaker 2: and pass protection, but it's the interior and that's where 965 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 2: Devon Hamilton has done some good things lately. 966 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,239 Speaker 1: That's where Eric Armstead can rush from. 967 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,759 Speaker 2: This Interior's gotta have as good a game as it's 968 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:02,799 Speaker 2: had all year. Juice Scruggs, Jared Patterson, Shack Mason. The 969 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 2: spotlight will be on those three players. I can promise 970 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,920 Speaker 2: you the spotlight will be on them because if they 971 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 2: protect better, then CJ. 972 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,080 Speaker 1: Strad will light the Jags up. It's that simple. 973 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 2: If they don't, CJ can still light them up. But 974 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:19,320 Speaker 2: he's gonna have to put the cape on to be 975 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 2: able to do it, and he's. 976 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,799 Speaker 1: Done it before. But I'd rather him not have to. 977 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 2: I'd rather CJ take his steps, final receiver, throw it 978 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 2: and not have a jaguar breathing down his throat. 979 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,360 Speaker 1: Now, it's gonna happen at some point because the Jags 980 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:32,840 Speaker 1: o blitz. 981 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 2: If they're not getting pressure, a guy will get beat 982 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:35,799 Speaker 2: every now and again. 983 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 1: But it can't happen repeatedly. 984 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,000 Speaker 2: They have got to have the game of the year, 985 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,920 Speaker 2: put points up on the board, go into. 986 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 1: The bye week, get some rest to be ready for 987 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 1: the Final four. 988 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,360 Speaker 2: But that interior offensive line has all the pressure on 989 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:50,000 Speaker 2: it this week. 990 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,919 Speaker 1: CJ is the quarterback everybody thought he was last year. 991 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,440 Speaker 2: He just run into some bumps in the road because 992 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 2: he has been tortured with pressure, torture with pressure since 993 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:06,520 Speaker 2: the Packers game for multiple reasons. Now, He'll tell you 994 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:10,320 Speaker 2: a hasn't played very well and he's thrown some interceptions, 995 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 2: like the interception to Kenth Murray last week. 996 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 1: He said it that was bad throw. It was bad throw. 997 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:18,600 Speaker 2: But there were a lot of really, really good throws 998 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,200 Speaker 2: he didn't get credit for last week because he didn't 999 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:21,959 Speaker 2: have time to throw. 1000 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,480 Speaker 1: He had receivers open, he can hit them. He needs 1001 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:25,120 Speaker 1: a little time. 1002 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:26,799 Speaker 2: And I'm not saying he's got to sit back there 1003 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,440 Speaker 2: and make forty throws and forty times he drops back. 1004 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,240 Speaker 1: He's not gonna get pressure. No, he's gonna get pressure, 1005 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,959 Speaker 1: but it can't be forty eight percent of the time. 1006 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 1: That's got to change. And if it does, Texas blow 1007 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:38,440 Speaker 1: him out. 1008 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,400 Speaker 2: It doesn't, it'll be game all the way into the 1009 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,439 Speaker 2: fourth quarter that I don't want to see. 1010 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 1: I'd rather see a nice little blowout. 1011 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:49,400 Speaker 2: Okay, we get back. The injury slash status report is out. 1012 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,640 Speaker 2: Who's in, who's out. I already told you about Trevor Lawrence. 1013 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,400 Speaker 2: He will be in with that ac joint for the 1014 00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:00,200 Speaker 2: Jacksonville Jaguars. But who is out for your Texans? Who 1015 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,680 Speaker 2: was out for the Jaguars. We'll talk about that next 1016 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:07,239 Speaker 2: Right here in Texas Access Stats Challenge is brought to 1017 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:11,960 Speaker 2: you by SLB. Check out Houston Texas dot com for 1018 00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:16,759 Speaker 2: information on the Stats Challenge, presented by our friends at SLB. 1019 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,120 Speaker 1: Okay, Today's number. 1020 00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 2: And I try to think I got a number of 1021 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,839 Speaker 2: them in my head, but I think the number I'm 1022 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:23,800 Speaker 2: going with is nine. 1023 00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,360 Speaker 1: The number is nine. That's our stat. 1024 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:33,000 Speaker 2: The Texans have nine straight AFC South. 1025 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:34,600 Speaker 1: Road game wins. 1026 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:39,240 Speaker 2: Said it again, nine straight AFC South Road game wins. 1027 00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,560 Speaker 2: So this takes us all the way back to twenty 1028 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:46,120 Speaker 2: twenty one season. We beat Tennessee in the rain, then 1029 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,279 Speaker 2: we beat Jacksonville in the rain for the final two. 1030 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,439 Speaker 2: We lost Indy earlier in the year, but we won 1031 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:54,480 Speaker 2: those two. Then we swept twenty twenty three. In fact, 1032 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,319 Speaker 2: we were three and fourteen, but we won all three 1033 00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,479 Speaker 2: games on the road in the division. Twenty twenty three 1034 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,760 Speaker 2: again won all three games in the division on the road. 1035 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,120 Speaker 2: And then at twenty twenty four, we started off the 1036 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,560 Speaker 2: season with the Colts went over the Colts in Week 1037 00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:11,000 Speaker 2: one on the road. 1038 00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:15,400 Speaker 1: That's nine. It's pretty damn impressive, to be honest. 1039 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:16,759 Speaker 2: With you, with some of the troubles that we had 1040 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,480 Speaker 2: from twenty twenty through twenty twenty two, to be able 1041 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:25,480 Speaker 2: to have nine straight road wins in the division, that's crazy. 1042 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:29,280 Speaker 2: Sundays game will be at Jacksonville, where we have won 1043 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,040 Speaker 2: every road game. If you want another number from SLB, 1044 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:37,320 Speaker 2: here's eight. Eight of nine. I've been on the sideline 1045 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 2: starting in twenty fourteen. That's why our little old streak 1046 00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,719 Speaker 2: started against Jacksonville. We have won every time in Jacksonville 1047 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:47,120 Speaker 2: since except for once. That was twenty seventeen now twenty nineteen. 1048 00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:47,720 Speaker 1: We went to London. 1049 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:51,000 Speaker 2: We beat them there too, So eight of nine. The 1050 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,920 Speaker 2: only time was that lost to That was a brutal loss. 1051 00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:55,480 Speaker 2: That was a really good Jacksonville team that won a 1052 00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:59,360 Speaker 2: division at twenty seventeen. We have won every other time. 1053 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:03,000 Speaker 2: COVID twenty twenty yep, the year they wanted a vision 1054 00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:04,520 Speaker 2: at twenty twenty two, yep. 1055 00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,960 Speaker 1: Beat him earlier in the year last year in week three, YEP. 1056 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:13,920 Speaker 2: So all that being said, uh, we've got eight of 1057 00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,719 Speaker 2: the last nine in Jacksonville, so a lot going on 1058 00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,279 Speaker 2: with those numbers. Brought to you by slb Okay, let's 1059 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,360 Speaker 2: get into the status report for this one. It's pretty 1060 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:29,840 Speaker 2: for week thirteen, it's pretty close to being well somewhat impeccable. 1061 00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:31,880 Speaker 2: I guess the only three players that are out, and 1062 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,160 Speaker 2: I think we know one. We knew one of them, 1063 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:38,359 Speaker 2: and guess that another one. Especially on the Texans side, 1064 00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,080 Speaker 2: we knew Jalen Petrie be out. He's dealing with that 1065 00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:43,000 Speaker 2: shoulder issue that he injured last week, so he'll definitely 1066 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:43,239 Speaker 2: be out. 1067 00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:43,759 Speaker 1: Fully thought of. 1068 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,960 Speaker 2: Cassi would love to face his former team, but unfortunately 1069 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:51,719 Speaker 2: deal with that foot injury. He is also out. So 1070 00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,680 Speaker 2: you got two guys out in one question book. Xavie 1071 00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:59,000 Speaker 2: Hutchinson going back to his hometown, going back to Jacksonville, 1072 00:45:59,120 --> 00:45:59,920 Speaker 2: he is questioned. 1073 00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:01,560 Speaker 1: That's it. 1074 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:06,759 Speaker 2: Will Anderson in? Did he go Autry in? They were 1075 00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:10,320 Speaker 2: both full participants on Friday in practice. That's good news. 1076 00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:11,200 Speaker 1: They are in. 1077 00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,520 Speaker 2: Also, Blake Fisher is back after dealing with a concussion. 1078 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:19,960 Speaker 2: So five out, ninety one out, that's it. Questionable. Xavier 1079 00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,040 Speaker 2: Hutchinson Hopefully x will be ready to play. I know 1080 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,640 Speaker 2: he wants to his hometown over on the Jacksonville side. Yes, 1081 00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:29,280 Speaker 2: Sir Abdullah is out dealing the hamstring. Linebacker Trevor Lawrence 1082 00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:33,760 Speaker 2: is questionable, but Doug Peterson said today that Trevor will play. 1083 00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,640 Speaker 2: So been expecting Trevor Lawrence to play all along. Tank 1084 00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,040 Speaker 2: Bigsby is back, Brandon Sheriff. 1085 00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:41,240 Speaker 1: Is also in. He'll play through. It is a Warriors. 1086 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:41,719 Speaker 1: That's it. 1087 00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:47,480 Speaker 2: Five players with designations, that's it. Three out, Patacasi Petrie 1088 00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,879 Speaker 2: on the Texans side, Abdullah out on the Jacksonville side, 1089 00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:54,280 Speaker 2: too questionable, Xavier Hutchinson on the Texans side, and Trevor Lawrence, 1090 00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:58,400 Speaker 2: even though dealing with that ac sprain on his left shoulder, 1091 00:46:58,880 --> 00:46:59,960 Speaker 2: he is questionable. 1092 00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,880 Speaker 1: He's going to play. So there you go. There's your 1093 00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,120 Speaker 1: status report for Sunday. All right, we get back. 1094 00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,719 Speaker 2: We're gonna talk to our buddy Jonathan Alexander from the 1095 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,880 Speaker 2: Houston Chronicle to kick off our second hour Texans All 1096 00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:11,440 Speaker 2: Access day. 1097 00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:12,960 Speaker 1: Right where you are? What's happened? Everybody? 1098 00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:14,480 Speaker 2: We got one hour now, one hour left to go 1099 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,960 Speaker 2: right here on a Friday edition of Texans All Access. 1100 00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,440 Speaker 1: Glad you are here with me on his Black Friday. 1101 00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,440 Speaker 2: Got a lot of stuff to do in this second 1102 00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:25,840 Speaker 2: hour to feel good Friday, so we'll get to Demico 1103 00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:29,160 Speaker 2: Ryan's a little later, but every Friday we get a 1104 00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:33,680 Speaker 2: chance to sit down with Jonathan Alexander from the Houston Chronicle. 1105 00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,719 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what I've really enjoyed getting the opportunity 1106 00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:38,759 Speaker 2: to catch up with Jonathan. He does a great job 1107 00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,320 Speaker 2: carving a team and the stuff for the Chronicle, and 1108 00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,280 Speaker 2: at the very end he'll tell you about the Texas Insider. 1109 00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:45,920 Speaker 2: And as a subscriber to the Chronicle, I get it 1110 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,839 Speaker 2: to my email every week and it's awesome. I love 1111 00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:53,280 Speaker 2: seeing just right there, just nuts and bolts, and maybe 1112 00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,960 Speaker 2: sometimes I don't even know about the team, just seeing 1113 00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:57,440 Speaker 2: what Jonathan's got to say about them. 1114 00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,279 Speaker 1: So definitely want to check that out. But check this out. 1115 00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,759 Speaker 3: Stout at Alexander with Mark and myself in studio with 1116 00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:07,200 Speaker 3: us from the Houston Chronicle. Jonathan Alexander, Jonathan, how's it going? 1117 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:08,120 Speaker 3: Happy Thanksgiving? 1118 00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,360 Speaker 8: Happy Thanksgiving to you. This is my favorite holiday, so 1119 00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:11,319 Speaker 8: I'm ready for it. 1120 00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,839 Speaker 3: Well, we're still digesting, and we're digesting the Texans having 1121 00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,719 Speaker 3: lost four of their last six games, which is hard 1122 00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,400 Speaker 3: for me to say. I'm too full to say it, 1123 00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:24,040 Speaker 3: but it's happened, but they can do something about it. Sunday, Jonathan, 1124 00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,000 Speaker 3: your thoughts on the current state of the franchise. 1125 00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,759 Speaker 8: Yeah, last week's game against the Titans was probably as 1126 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,919 Speaker 8: ugly as I've seen it, just the simple fact that 1127 00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:38,920 Speaker 8: almost every side of the football played a bad game. 1128 00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:44,440 Speaker 8: You know, the defense uncharacteristically gave up all those explosive plays. Offense, 1129 00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,479 Speaker 8: we saw more of the same from the second half 1130 00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:51,040 Speaker 8: performances that they've been putting on, and even the special 1131 00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,960 Speaker 8: teams with Kyamie Fairbrong missing that twenty yard kick. I 1132 00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:55,719 Speaker 8: think this is a game they have to win. I 1133 00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:57,399 Speaker 8: think they're in desperation mode right now. 1134 00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,600 Speaker 2: Okay, So that being said, Jonathan, there are a lot 1135 00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,479 Speaker 2: of things that have to get fixed. But what one 1136 00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,440 Speaker 2: thing do you go, this has to get fixed on 1137 00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:08,200 Speaker 2: Sunday or else. 1138 00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,000 Speaker 8: That's a great question, because I was actually thinking about 1139 00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,560 Speaker 8: that a few minutes ago. I think the offense in 1140 00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,880 Speaker 8: the second half has to get fixed. Yeah, and I 1141 00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,319 Speaker 8: hate to say this, but you're coming into a bye 1142 00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:23,640 Speaker 8: week and you're playing against the worst defense in the league, 1143 00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:25,600 Speaker 8: or one of the worst defenses in the league in 1144 00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:29,719 Speaker 8: the Jaguars, another division opponent. If the Texans put on 1145 00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:33,360 Speaker 8: a performance like they did last week, then you will 1146 00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:35,640 Speaker 8: see some changes heading into the bye week. You know, 1147 00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:37,319 Speaker 8: I've been on the record saying that I don't see 1148 00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,200 Speaker 8: Demico making any changes, but that changes if they lose 1149 00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,680 Speaker 8: to the Jaguars and put on another bad performance in 1150 00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,640 Speaker 8: the second half, and that's some I think a lot 1151 00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:47,640 Speaker 8: of intends will be up and a lot of people 1152 00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,120 Speaker 8: are on edge around NRG Stadium this week. 1153 00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,120 Speaker 3: How perplexing is it to you that with Joe Mixon 1154 00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,640 Speaker 3: and it's not just him, it's obviously blocking and things 1155 00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:57,240 Speaker 3: like that, because I got a feeling if their holes, 1156 00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,080 Speaker 3: mixing is going to find them. But just the running 1157 00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,920 Speaker 3: game in general, it's feast or famine. Some days it's 1158 00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:05,840 Speaker 3: just not there at all. Other days it's there, plentiful. 1159 00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:10,040 Speaker 3: But you're looking at a situation where, hey, even against Tennessee, 1160 00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,720 Speaker 3: if you had seventy seventy five yards rushing, you probably 1161 00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:13,680 Speaker 3: win the football game. 1162 00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:15,800 Speaker 1: It's just kind of strange that way. Yeah, it is strange. 1163 00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:19,000 Speaker 8: I mean, coming in, we knew that the Titans had 1164 00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,360 Speaker 8: one of the better rush defenses in the league. Jeffrey 1165 00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:25,719 Speaker 8: Simmons is obviously one of the best run stoppers in 1166 00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:28,440 Speaker 8: the NFL, but for Joe Mixon to have twenty two 1167 00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,600 Speaker 8: yards and fourteen carries was just not normal. And the 1168 00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:36,200 Speaker 8: offensive line currently is not playing consistently as they should. 1169 00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:39,640 Speaker 8: I do think Kenyan Green was a better run blocker 1170 00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,880 Speaker 8: than Juice Scruggs. Now I've see Kenyon had his issues 1171 00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,080 Speaker 8: in the passing game. I do think that hurt a 1172 00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:46,920 Speaker 8: little bit, and they're still trying to figure it out. 1173 00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:48,719 Speaker 8: But they're gonna have to find some consistency. 1174 00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:49,239 Speaker 9: They have to. 1175 00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,000 Speaker 8: That is their identity on offense, running the football with 1176 00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,319 Speaker 8: Joe Mixon, Texans are at their best when they're running 1177 00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:56,120 Speaker 8: it well, so they have to figure that part of 1178 00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:56,719 Speaker 8: their game out. 1179 00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:58,960 Speaker 2: Johnathan earlier in the year, when teams were hitting a 1180 00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,040 Speaker 2: few explosives on the TECH since I thought, especially the 1181 00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:02,759 Speaker 2: coltsal first came, I thought that, you know, look that's 1182 00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:03,719 Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson. 1183 00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:05,560 Speaker 1: He had a few over the top. 1184 00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:07,840 Speaker 2: Bill Pears's kind of a go get him down to 1185 00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:11,560 Speaker 2: field kind of receiver. But they haven't really stopped. That's 1186 00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:15,240 Speaker 2: a pretty big concern, I think. But you know, big plays, 1187 00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,800 Speaker 2: sometimes it can be one guy getting busted. It can 1188 00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,160 Speaker 2: I think the other day the Calvin Ridley one is 1189 00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:21,840 Speaker 2: probably the one that worried me the most because the 1190 00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,600 Speaker 2: rush wasn't able to get to Will Levis and Ridley 1191 00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:26,719 Speaker 2: just ran by everybody at the very end. 1192 00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:28,040 Speaker 1: And Levis was able to find him. 1193 00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:31,200 Speaker 2: With the explosive plays that teams have been getting against 1194 00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,640 Speaker 2: the Texans, A is it a bigger issue than I'm 1195 00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:36,319 Speaker 2: thinking it is? Or is it something that you think 1196 00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,000 Speaker 2: they can maybe clean up going forward, especially with though 1197 00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:40,880 Speaker 2: Jalen Petrie now they got to kind of reconfigure the 1198 00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:42,680 Speaker 2: safety Nickels sort of situation. 1199 00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,680 Speaker 1: Is there too much to be made about it? 1200 00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:47,279 Speaker 2: Or do you think you know it's something that they'll 1201 00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,520 Speaker 2: start to curtail here as we get as we finished 1202 00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:49,960 Speaker 2: the season. 1203 00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:51,839 Speaker 8: I don't think it's too much to be made about 1204 00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,120 Speaker 8: it because you look at the play, especially the one 1205 00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:58,279 Speaker 8: where they scored in between Derek Stingley and Eric Murray. Yeah, 1206 00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,680 Speaker 8: that was one that teams have run against the Texans. 1207 00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:04,520 Speaker 8: Even the play with Jimmy Warred got scored on. That's 1208 00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:09,080 Speaker 8: another play. I think teams are seeing that the Texans 1209 00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,640 Speaker 8: are susceptible on film, and there have been times where 1210 00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:14,880 Speaker 8: they've made plays, but there have been times where they 1211 00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:19,279 Speaker 8: haven't and even a couple of times Trevor Lawrence tried 1212 00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,080 Speaker 8: to take that shot against him. Jicks Allen tried to 1213 00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,760 Speaker 8: take that shot against him and just didn't just didn't connect. 1214 00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:27,360 Speaker 8: So I think it's an issue there. I think the 1215 00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:31,160 Speaker 8: Texans were hoping that the pass rush would solve a 1216 00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:34,160 Speaker 8: lot of those issues, and it has, but it can't save. 1217 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:34,560 Speaker 5: You every time. 1218 00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:36,680 Speaker 8: There are going to be times where the pass rush 1219 00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:38,359 Speaker 8: doesn't get there, So they have to be a lot 1220 00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,840 Speaker 8: smarter and play that that defense a a lot better 1221 00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,680 Speaker 8: to prevent those exposive shots because exposive shots are when 1222 00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,720 Speaker 8: they open up things for the offense. You saw once 1223 00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:53,879 Speaker 8: Will Levis hit those explosive plays, the Titans offense was moving, 1224 00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:55,759 Speaker 8: they were running the ball with more efficiency. So the 1225 00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:57,719 Speaker 8: Texans have to figure that out, all. 1226 00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:01,640 Speaker 3: Right, Trevor Lawrence and the Jaguars, the numbers are not pretty, 1227 00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:07,399 Speaker 3: They're downright awful, and it's just inexplicable. As tough as 1228 00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,719 Speaker 3: it is to figure out the Texans offensive issues in 1229 00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:14,279 Speaker 3: the second half, the Jaguars issues everywhere very difficult to 1230 00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,439 Speaker 3: understand and analyze. What is your analysis of what they've 1231 00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:18,160 Speaker 3: been going through? 1232 00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:20,200 Speaker 8: Yeah, I just think they don't have a lot of 1233 00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:24,799 Speaker 8: confidence in what the offensive staff is preaching over there. 1234 00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:26,000 Speaker 8: They don't have I don't think they have a lot 1235 00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:31,439 Speaker 8: of confidence in their head coach in Peterson. I think 1236 00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,960 Speaker 8: a lot of people are losing faith in Trevor Lawrence. 1237 00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:36,320 Speaker 8: And I think you're just starting to see a trickle 1238 00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,480 Speaker 8: down because they have a lot of talent. You know, 1239 00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:41,439 Speaker 8: Trevor Lawrence is a talented player. Even their new wide 1240 00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,640 Speaker 8: receiver Brian Thomas is a talented player. Oh yeah, Travis 1241 00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:46,279 Speaker 8: et In is going through a rough patch. I think 1242 00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:48,680 Speaker 8: he's a talented player as well. I just think the 1243 00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,560 Speaker 8: confidence around that program. I don't get a sense that 1244 00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,280 Speaker 8: they get along and it's had a trickle down effect 1245 00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,640 Speaker 8: and they're just playing bad and and just to get 1246 00:53:56,680 --> 00:54:00,000 Speaker 8: blown out like that in their last game. Those things, 1247 00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:03,160 Speaker 8: especially get started with that Lions game, right to get 1248 00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,600 Speaker 8: blown out like that time and time again, those have 1249 00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:07,759 Speaker 8: a trickle down effect and they'll start to affect you, 1250 00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,279 Speaker 8: which is why did Texans really need to win this game? 1251 00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,879 Speaker 2: So Colts go to New England. Anthony Richardson gets back 1252 00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:17,600 Speaker 2: in the lineup. He looks tremendous against the Jets. I 1253 00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:20,160 Speaker 2: was thinking about the Jets thing. I got really mad 1254 00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,120 Speaker 2: today as I was walking in my car thinking about 1255 00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:23,440 Speaker 2: how the Jets have been a mess for the last 1256 00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:25,680 Speaker 2: couple of years and yet they still beat us both times. 1257 00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,840 Speaker 2: Either way, he has a great game against against the Jets, 1258 00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,240 Speaker 2: then he faces the Lions last week and the Lions 1259 00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:32,200 Speaker 2: have a really good defense. 1260 00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:34,919 Speaker 1: They had some guys out. He doesn't look as good. 1261 00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,759 Speaker 2: So it's the same kind of Anthony Richardson experience of 1262 00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:42,560 Speaker 2: riding the wave. Now it's the Patriots are the Colts, 1263 00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,080 Speaker 2: well the Colts do with Anthony Richardson at this point? 1264 00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,320 Speaker 2: Is he the future? I can imagine he's gotta be. 1265 00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:49,920 Speaker 2: But we were thinking when Flacco came in that, well, 1266 00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:51,640 Speaker 2: Richard's gonna have to fight for his job. How do 1267 00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:55,000 Speaker 2: you go look at the Anthony Richardson situation in Indianapolis, Jonathan. 1268 00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:58,000 Speaker 8: Yeah, Like we've talked about it, Anthony Richard doesn't have 1269 00:54:58,000 --> 00:54:59,600 Speaker 8: a tony experience, and I think he's gonna have to 1270 00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:02,040 Speaker 8: learn from reps. But I think one of the things 1271 00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:05,600 Speaker 8: that the Coats can do, and I saw them do 1272 00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,840 Speaker 8: the opposite against the Texans, is they can run the 1273 00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:12,560 Speaker 8: ball more often and earlier with Jonathan Taylor Jonathan Taylor 1274 00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,520 Speaker 8: in his elite talent. I remember the Texans game they played. 1275 00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:16,880 Speaker 8: I don't know if it was the first or second. 1276 00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:18,600 Speaker 8: I think it was the second one for sure, But 1277 00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:20,640 Speaker 8: they were having success running football and then they went 1278 00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:23,200 Speaker 8: away from it. And I think too often, I think 1279 00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:26,560 Speaker 8: Shane Stichen just gets too caught up in the passing game. 1280 00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:29,600 Speaker 8: You know, that's his forte, and he forgets he has 1281 00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,320 Speaker 8: one of the best runners in the league, and the 1282 00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:34,440 Speaker 8: running back has come back. You know, you have to 1283 00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:36,680 Speaker 8: have an effective running game to be successful, and I 1284 00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:39,160 Speaker 8: think if the Colts can figure out how to marry 1285 00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:41,440 Speaker 8: that running game with Jonathan Taylor and mix it up 1286 00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:43,719 Speaker 8: with Anthony Richardson, then I think you take some of 1287 00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,400 Speaker 8: the pressure off of Anthony Richardson. He can perhaps flourish 1288 00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:47,160 Speaker 8: a little bit better. 1289 00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:50,440 Speaker 3: All right, same question Johnny asked you insert Will Levis's 1290 00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:52,280 Speaker 3: name here and the Tennessee Titans. 1291 00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:52,719 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1292 00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:55,440 Speaker 8: I was actually impressed with Will Levis. You know, I 1293 00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:58,799 Speaker 8: had the impression of him his rookie season, and you know, 1294 00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,400 Speaker 8: I know he's had some moments this year with the turnovers. 1295 00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:03,799 Speaker 8: I think that's the thing for him. If he can 1296 00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:06,360 Speaker 8: cut back on the turnovers I think he can be 1297 00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:10,080 Speaker 8: a starter in this league. Now, is he a franchise 1298 00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:13,200 Speaker 8: caliber player. No, I don't believe that. I still see 1299 00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,280 Speaker 8: deficiencies in his game, but he looked really good against 1300 00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:18,880 Speaker 8: the Texans, and obviously he has the arm. We all 1301 00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:22,000 Speaker 8: knew that he can take off with the football if 1302 00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,920 Speaker 8: he can limit the turnovers, and I see him almost 1303 00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,880 Speaker 8: around the same Ilkiss Anthony Richard. I think Anthony is 1304 00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:29,319 Speaker 8: a little bit of a better thrower when he's on, 1305 00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:31,480 Speaker 8: but if he can take care of the football and 1306 00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,840 Speaker 8: not have so much pressure on him, I think he 1307 00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:38,719 Speaker 8: can help the franchise get to being okay, but I 1308 00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:40,040 Speaker 8: think they need a little bit more to be a 1309 00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:40,720 Speaker 8: really good team. 1310 00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:43,320 Speaker 2: Monday night, we had the Hardball Bowl, that's hard to 1311 00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:47,080 Speaker 2: say sometimes, Hardball Bowl, Harbor Bull Hardball Bowl with the 1312 00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,480 Speaker 2: Chargers taking on the Ravens out in LA. The Ravens 1313 00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:51,600 Speaker 2: came out of there with the victory that put them 1314 00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:52,359 Speaker 2: at eight and four. 1315 00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:54,240 Speaker 1: The Pittsburgh Stuglers are eight and three. 1316 00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:59,640 Speaker 2: The AFC North to me is I don't know all 1317 00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:02,040 Speaker 2: over the place in a sense because the Pittsburgh Steelers 1318 00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:03,080 Speaker 2: have the lead in division. 1319 00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:05,000 Speaker 1: But I think the Ravens to me. Even though the 1320 00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:06,520 Speaker 1: Steelers beat the Ravens. 1321 00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,440 Speaker 2: Like, I get it, that gave us a Pittsburgh I 1322 00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:12,160 Speaker 2: feel like the Ravens are the better team. Plus, how 1323 00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:15,359 Speaker 2: about next week we have AFC North Hard Knocks. Yes, oh, 1324 00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:18,040 Speaker 2: it comes out for the first time December third. So 1325 00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:21,200 Speaker 2: at that point, who would scare you more? The Steelers 1326 00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:23,280 Speaker 2: or the Ravens if you had to face them in 1327 00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,160 Speaker 2: a playoff game? You know, we gotta face the Ravens 1328 00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:29,040 Speaker 2: on Christmas Day, But who would be more dangerous, the 1329 00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:30,280 Speaker 2: Steelers or the Ravens. 1330 00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:32,320 Speaker 8: You know, that's a good question because I think the 1331 00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:35,919 Speaker 8: Steelers and the Ravens have opposite problems. Like I think 1332 00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:38,200 Speaker 8: Russell Wilson has done a good job so far, but 1333 00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:42,120 Speaker 8: he doesn't scare me as a quarterback offensively, but their 1334 00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:43,720 Speaker 8: defense is playing phenomenal. 1335 00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:45,120 Speaker 5: They're keeping them in games. 1336 00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:48,720 Speaker 8: On the other hand, the Ravens, their defense has not 1337 00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:51,200 Speaker 8: been good at all this year, but they have two 1338 00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:54,240 Speaker 8: of the most dangerous players in the NFL and Lamar 1339 00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:57,920 Speaker 8: Jackson and Derrick Henry. Yep, so that team would scare me. 1340 00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,320 Speaker 8: I think the Texans. It could be a shoe doubt 1341 00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:03,840 Speaker 8: between the Ravens, but I think Lamar Jackson is just 1342 00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:06,560 Speaker 8: he's going to be the MVP this year, and he 1343 00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:09,480 Speaker 8: is the best player in the NFL. And anytime you 1344 00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:11,160 Speaker 8: have the best player along with one of the best 1345 00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:13,320 Speaker 8: offensive players alongside you, that makes it difficult. 1346 00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:16,760 Speaker 3: It'll be interesting because the Ravens and Steelers are going 1347 00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:20,720 Speaker 3: to play, and then I think the Barkley Lamar Jackson 1348 00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:22,360 Speaker 3: MVP battle. 1349 00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:23,560 Speaker 1: Will be on full display. 1350 00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:25,840 Speaker 3: And I think Saquon Barkley is going to get a 1351 00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:27,760 Speaker 3: lot of love here because I think a lot of 1352 00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:29,480 Speaker 3: people would love to give it to a running back 1353 00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:32,280 Speaker 3: if possible. You mentioned it, Jonathan, the running back is back. 1354 00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:36,600 Speaker 3: Squon Barkley having an amazing year come up is going 1355 00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:40,080 Speaker 3: to lose his mind. Lose his mind, Johnny. That's right. 1356 00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:43,800 Speaker 3: Jonathan Alexander with us from the Houston Chronicle before the season. 1357 00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:47,280 Speaker 3: Did you have a published record prediction of the Houston 1358 00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:48,080 Speaker 3: Texans season. 1359 00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:53,160 Speaker 8: Yes, I think I predicted them to be eleven and six. 1360 00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:56,120 Speaker 8: I predicted them to be six and four out of 1361 00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,840 Speaker 8: that stretch, lose to the Ravens and Chiefs, and win 1362 00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:00,520 Speaker 8: the rest of the games. I did not made them 1363 00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:03,280 Speaker 8: lose into any of the Titans games. I did not inter. 1364 00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:05,280 Speaker 1: You had six and four. 1365 00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:07,120 Speaker 8: I had six and four. I had them losing the Lions, 1366 00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:10,920 Speaker 8: and I didn't have them losing to the Jets. Okay, 1367 00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:12,520 Speaker 8: maybe I did have them losing to the Titans, but 1368 00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:14,920 Speaker 8: I had them six and four going into Dallas. 1369 00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,840 Speaker 3: Yes, Okay, Well, here we are at seven and five, 1370 00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:22,080 Speaker 3: and I think the Titans game made all record predictions 1371 00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:24,400 Speaker 3: from here on out. All Right, I don't know what's 1372 00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:26,560 Speaker 3: gonna happen, right, because if you can lose to them, 1373 00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:28,200 Speaker 3: you can lose to anybody. And we all know this 1374 00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:31,800 Speaker 3: about the NFL anyway. But to get to last season's 1375 00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:35,200 Speaker 3: win total, you gotta go three and two, and that's 1376 00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:37,960 Speaker 3: gonna be tough, right, you can do it. We all 1377 00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:39,440 Speaker 3: want to see them do it. We all want to 1378 00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:41,840 Speaker 3: see them get going, especially in that gauntlet of those 1379 00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:44,160 Speaker 3: three really tough games and a short amount of time. 1380 00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:46,320 Speaker 1: But what are your thoughts on the finish? Here? We 1381 00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:48,360 Speaker 1: can look ahead, they can. 1382 00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:49,040 Speaker 5: We can. 1383 00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:50,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1384 00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:55,000 Speaker 8: So the Dolphins five weeks ago looked like an easier game, yeah, 1385 00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:58,240 Speaker 8: and now it was not. You know, I think the Texans, 1386 00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:01,280 Speaker 8: depending on how they finishing it the Jaguars. If the 1387 01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:04,960 Speaker 8: Texans can beat the Jaguars handedly develop some confidence. I 1388 01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:07,480 Speaker 8: do think they can get two out of three of 1389 01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:11,520 Speaker 8: the three tough three game scratch fight Dolphins, Ravens and Chiefs, 1390 01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:14,120 Speaker 8: and then they'll beat the Titans. 1391 01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:15,520 Speaker 5: I think they'll beat the Titans at the end. 1392 01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:18,720 Speaker 3: Well, if that happens and they can't improve their status, 1393 01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:21,840 Speaker 3: they're standing, if you will, maybe they rest guys against 1394 01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:24,400 Speaker 3: otase regular season, and I'd love to have that before. 1395 01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:27,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, be there that before. Yeah, it'd be nice. 1396 01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:29,360 Speaker 8: And they can lose that game. But you know, I 1397 01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:32,720 Speaker 8: see deficiencies. We talk about it often. I see deficiencies 1398 01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:34,840 Speaker 8: in the Chiefs. They almost lost to the Panthers with 1399 01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:36,520 Speaker 8: one of the worst teams in the league, so they 1400 01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:40,160 Speaker 8: can be beaten. The Ravens again, I think their defense 1401 01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:43,040 Speaker 8: is weak. So I think the Texans can beat those teams. 1402 01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:46,320 Speaker 8: I think they should beat the Dolphins. Dolphins can beat them, 1403 01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:49,439 Speaker 8: but I think there are opportunities there if they get 1404 01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:51,800 Speaker 8: back on tracking and get their confidence going. 1405 01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:53,680 Speaker 1: Jonathan, what do you have going on in the chronicle 1406 01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:54,040 Speaker 1: for us? 1407 01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:57,120 Speaker 8: I got story uh Sunday on CJ. 1408 01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:58,960 Speaker 5: Stroud, who you know. 1409 01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:01,320 Speaker 8: I think it's taking a a lot of the blame 1410 01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:04,120 Speaker 8: and he's the second year quarterback I think everybody has 1411 01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:07,880 Speaker 8: to put back into focus that he's twenty three years old. Second, 1412 01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:11,040 Speaker 8: there are ups and downs that happen with quarterbacks. He's fine, 1413 01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:13,680 Speaker 8: but looking at what it's like being a twenty three 1414 01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:17,000 Speaker 8: year old and having the pressures of being the franchise 1415 01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:19,320 Speaker 8: face at such an early age, and it's something that 1416 01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:21,760 Speaker 8: he wants to take on. But it comes with his 1417 01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:24,160 Speaker 8: you know, positives in his negatives. 1418 01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:25,840 Speaker 1: All right, Jonathan, thanks a lot for joining us. 1419 01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:29,400 Speaker 2: We appreciate it, thanks for having me stakgiving so obviously 1420 01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:31,120 Speaker 2: we give thanks for a lot of people, a lot 1421 01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:31,640 Speaker 2: of things. 1422 01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:32,760 Speaker 1: There's a lot of stuff. 1423 01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:35,720 Speaker 2: We definitely give thanks to Jonathan Alexander for joining us 1424 01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:38,080 Speaker 2: every single Friday, but very gracious with his time, and 1425 01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:41,800 Speaker 2: really appreciate him being on with us. Now, this is 1426 01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:45,280 Speaker 2: a little less than a full week in the NFL, 1427 01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:48,840 Speaker 2: but everybody's playing. So even though there were three games 1428 01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:52,480 Speaker 2: on Thursday night and there was a game on Black Friday, 1429 01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:55,760 Speaker 2: there's all kinds of games on Sunday, cluding your Texans. 1430 01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:57,720 Speaker 2: I will pick them all straight up and against the 1431 01:01:57,760 --> 01:01:58,560 Speaker 2: spread for fun. 1432 01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:00,200 Speaker 1: It's a fun way to talk about. 1433 01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:02,040 Speaker 2: The NFL games and a fun way to talk about the 1434 01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:04,760 Speaker 2: NFL do that next right here on Texans All Access. 1435 01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:06,439 Speaker 1: All right, here we go. 1436 01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:09,520 Speaker 2: It's Predictions Time right here on a Friday edition at 1437 01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:13,920 Speaker 2: Texans All Access from Monday Texans Radios Studio. 1438 01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:17,280 Speaker 1: I'm your host, John Harris, football analyst. Sad'm reporter and I. 1439 01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:23,000 Speaker 2: Love, love love Prediction Time, love it. I predict games 1440 01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:29,200 Speaker 2: straight up and against the spread. And on Thursday, no sorry, Wednesday, 1441 01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:32,080 Speaker 2: Mark and I did a kind of abreviated version and 1442 01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:35,320 Speaker 2: we got the Lions game right. We said Mins win, 1443 01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:37,560 Speaker 2: but the Bears will cover. That's exactly what happened. We 1444 01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:39,440 Speaker 2: said the Cowboys would cover and beat the Giants. We 1445 01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:41,800 Speaker 2: got that right. And we got the Packers game right 1446 01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:43,520 Speaker 2: because we said the Packers would win and cover against 1447 01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:43,920 Speaker 2: the Dolphins. 1448 01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:45,840 Speaker 1: So we're three zero to start the weekend. But Mark's 1449 01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:49,320 Speaker 1: out here. It's just me to predict these games for 1450 01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:54,240 Speaker 1: the rest of the weekend. So give me some music. 1451 01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:57,400 Speaker 2: Yes, I won't sing, although it would be kind of 1452 01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:00,200 Speaker 2: fun to try and talk sing through my prediction, but 1453 01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:03,120 Speaker 2: I can't sing, so I'm just gonna pick these games. 1454 01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:06,360 Speaker 2: So my music's rolling, and let's go. Colts are going 1455 01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:09,120 Speaker 2: to New England. Colts five and seven Patriots three and nine. 1456 01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:11,480 Speaker 2: Colts will be without a couple of receivers Ashton Dueling 1457 01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:14,400 Speaker 2: Josh Downs. That could hurt them a little bit, but 1458 01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:17,880 Speaker 2: I don't think it's gonna hurt them enough to lose 1459 01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:21,280 Speaker 2: this game. So the Texans are gonna keep pace. The 1460 01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:23,720 Speaker 2: Colts win. Texans gotta win any of the Texans to 1461 01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:27,880 Speaker 2: win regardless. I do think the Patriots can keep it close. 1462 01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:31,160 Speaker 2: I do think that, But Indianapolis favored by two and 1463 01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:33,080 Speaker 2: a half. That's about where I put it. I would 1464 01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:35,720 Speaker 2: think Colts win by three. So let's give the Colts 1465 01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:38,280 Speaker 2: a win and a cover in New England. Not that 1466 01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:41,560 Speaker 2: I want it to happen, but it's going to happen. Okay, 1467 01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:45,360 Speaker 2: Steelers taking on the Bengals. I find it's fascinating. Steelers 1468 01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:48,000 Speaker 2: are eight and three, the Bengals are four and seven. 1469 01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:51,800 Speaker 2: They're playing in Cincinnati. Cincinnati's favored by three. It's crazy 1470 01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:54,880 Speaker 2: to think about, but I think the Steels are gonna 1471 01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:58,240 Speaker 2: bounce back. They've had a week to kind of, you know, 1472 01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:01,680 Speaker 2: lick the wounds, if you will, of taking that loss 1473 01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:04,520 Speaker 2: last was it Thursday? That was Thursday in the snow 1474 01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:08,400 Speaker 2: against Jamison Browns. I think the Steelers will bounce back 1475 01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:11,439 Speaker 2: and win this game. They're obviously an underdog, so they'll 1476 01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:14,160 Speaker 2: cover that number. I think so much has been made 1477 01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:16,600 Speaker 2: about the Bengals. They just can't win close games. So 1478 01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:18,480 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with the Steelers to win this one. 1479 01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:20,440 Speaker 2: Although I wouldn't mind seeing the Steelers lose to get 1480 01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:22,880 Speaker 2: to eight and four, but I just don't. 1481 01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:24,200 Speaker 1: Think it will happen. 1482 01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:27,640 Speaker 2: Steelers are gonna win this thing on the road against Cincinnati. 1483 01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:29,960 Speaker 2: The Chargers are going to take on a Falcons. This 1484 01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:32,680 Speaker 2: is a sneaky hot game. This is a really sneaky 1485 01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:37,280 Speaker 2: hot game. The Chargers played well against the Ravens, not 1486 01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:40,160 Speaker 2: well enough, but well against the Ravens. 1487 01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:43,200 Speaker 1: But now after a Monday night, now it's a short week. 1488 01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:46,440 Speaker 2: Now they gotta fly across country. I've seen the negative 1489 01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:49,360 Speaker 2: body clock not work, especially with the Chargers. Even this year, 1490 01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:51,840 Speaker 2: seen a lot of West Coast teams go win noon 1491 01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:53,880 Speaker 2: games over on the East Coast or one o'clock on 1492 01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:56,600 Speaker 2: the East Coast. The Falcons are coming off of bye, 1493 01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:59,000 Speaker 2: so they're rested, they're ready for the Chargers. 1494 01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:02,800 Speaker 1: The Chargers are favor by one in Atlanta, and I. 1495 01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:05,320 Speaker 2: Do think the Chargers are a better team overall than Atlanta, 1496 01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:09,240 Speaker 2: but I think when you factor in long trip, short week, 1497 01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:11,880 Speaker 2: Harboll's gonna have him ready. But I think in the 1498 01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:13,440 Speaker 2: end of Falcons are gonna find a way to win 1499 01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:15,520 Speaker 2: this game. And I wouldn't mind it see a. 1500 01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:18,000 Speaker 1: Charger fall to seven and five NFCAFC. I'm always going 1501 01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:18,800 Speaker 1: to the NFC, but. 1502 01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:21,400 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with the Falcons in a mild upset 1503 01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:24,240 Speaker 2: here because charge fair by one is basically. 1504 01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:24,320 Speaker 1: A pick them. 1505 01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:27,080 Speaker 2: Let's go Falcons to win this thing and obviously cover 1506 01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:30,040 Speaker 2: getting an upset at home. The Seahawks are taking on 1507 01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:33,800 Speaker 2: the Jets. Jets quarterback is still Aaron Rodgers for now. 1508 01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:37,200 Speaker 2: Seattle's fair by a half point in New York and 1509 01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:39,080 Speaker 2: I don't even know what to think about this game. 1510 01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:41,240 Speaker 2: If I'm being honest, if I were to flip a coin, 1511 01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:46,400 Speaker 2: it would probably come up Jets barely. That's such a 1512 01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:48,040 Speaker 2: mess there. I don't know what to think, but you 1513 01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:49,640 Speaker 2: know what, let's do. Let's go with the Jets. It's 1514 01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:51,680 Speaker 2: basically a pick them. Let's go with the Jets to 1515 01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:55,680 Speaker 2: win that thing at home. One last salvo for Aaron 1516 01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:59,520 Speaker 2: Rodgers and then it will be done. Okay, Cardinals Vike 1517 01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:02,520 Speaker 2: is this so I said sneaky hot game was Charters 1518 01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:06,280 Speaker 2: Falcons right there, and maybe just the hot category is 1519 01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:08,440 Speaker 2: Cardinals taking on the Vikings. This would have been a 1520 01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:10,919 Speaker 2: hotter game if the Cardinals had won the game last 1521 01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:14,160 Speaker 2: week against Seattle, but they did not. They're six and 1522 01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:16,120 Speaker 2: five coming in face the Vikings nine and two. The 1523 01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:18,560 Speaker 2: Vikings are favored by three and a half. The Vikings 1524 01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:21,760 Speaker 2: did sign Daniel Jones, he won't play. It's Sam Donald, 1525 01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:24,160 Speaker 2: and I think the Vikings will win as a result 1526 01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:26,360 Speaker 2: of Sam Donald because Sam has played very very well. 1527 01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:28,000 Speaker 1: So let's go Vikings to winness. 1528 01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:32,560 Speaker 2: Thing by six thirty to twenty four at home. 1529 01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:36,480 Speaker 1: Vikings get the win and the cover Titans taken on 1530 01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:40,080 Speaker 1: the Commanders. Well we all know the Titans did last week, right. 1531 01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:43,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, and to take on the Commanders. The Commander's on 1532 01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:47,200 Speaker 2: our couple game losing streak here hoo. I want the 1533 01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:49,360 Speaker 2: Commanders to win the Commanders fairy bout five and a half. 1534 01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:51,600 Speaker 2: I don't think Levis will have the same deep ball 1535 01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:54,120 Speaker 2: luck and accuracy, whatever you. 1536 01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:54,760 Speaker 1: Want to call it. 1537 01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:57,200 Speaker 2: I think Commanders will win this, will win this by 1538 01:06:57,200 --> 01:07:00,280 Speaker 2: a touchdown twenty four to seventeen in the command will 1539 01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:02,160 Speaker 2: help us out, but knocking off the fantasy South team 1540 01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:05,400 Speaker 2: Bucks Panthers. Panthers have played much better. Bryce Young was 1541 01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:08,880 Speaker 2: very good last week. Bucks will still win this game. 1542 01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:12,680 Speaker 2: They're favorite by six at Carolina. I think Bryce keeps 1543 01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:13,840 Speaker 2: it close for a while, but in the end of 1544 01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:15,800 Speaker 2: the Buccaneers win thirty four to twenty four. It's a 1545 01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:18,520 Speaker 2: winning a cover for Baker and Tampa Bay. The Rams 1546 01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:21,560 Speaker 2: are taking on the Saints. The Rams just can't get 1547 01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:24,280 Speaker 2: it over the top the Saints. They're all over the map. 1548 01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:25,960 Speaker 2: I think the Rams are gonna win this thing. They're 1549 01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:28,800 Speaker 2: favored by two and a half. It's about right. I'm 1550 01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:31,600 Speaker 2: thinking twenty eight to twenty four Rams. That's a cover 1551 01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:33,840 Speaker 2: for the Rams in a win for the Rams in 1552 01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:38,600 Speaker 2: an afternoon, delightful game. The Eagles are taking on the 1553 01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:42,080 Speaker 2: Ravens in Baltimore. Baltimore favored by three. These teams are 1554 01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:45,240 Speaker 2: gonna slug it out. I mean slug it out. This 1555 01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:46,959 Speaker 2: is as good a game as it gets. We won't 1556 01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:48,760 Speaker 2: see it because we'll be on a plane coming back, 1557 01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:50,960 Speaker 2: hopefully with a win over Jacksonville. But I'm gonna go 1558 01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:54,160 Speaker 2: with the Ravens at home to win this thing thirty 1559 01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:58,680 Speaker 2: one to twenty four Eagles. I'm sorry, Ravens get to 1560 01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:01,760 Speaker 2: win and the cover even though short week going to 1561 01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:05,280 Speaker 2: Ravens forty nine Ers, Bills, great game at night, Bills 1562 01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:07,920 Speaker 2: at home, fair by seven. I think they'll win this 1563 01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:11,600 Speaker 2: thing by seven, honestly, but we'll go Buffalo to get 1564 01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:13,160 Speaker 2: the win in the cover against the forty nine Ers. 1565 01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:15,440 Speaker 2: It's kind of been a mess right there, Browns and Broncos. 1566 01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:17,519 Speaker 2: I want the Browns with the Broncos to win that 1567 01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:19,320 Speaker 2: thing and cover the five and a half. So there 1568 01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:22,000 Speaker 2: you go your picks for this weekend. We get back 1569 01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:24,880 Speaker 2: fiel Good Friday. That meets Tomko Ryan's Joints. That's next 1570 01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:27,200 Speaker 2: to Texas All Access. Yes, sir, we got more all 1571 01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:30,719 Speaker 2: access coming to you from eight to nine. Mark's got 1572 01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:32,960 Speaker 2: you for that hour before we turn it over to 1573 01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:35,759 Speaker 2: eight or Area forty five for the rest of the weekend. 1574 01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:39,120 Speaker 2: And then obviously we got on a bird tomorrow and 1575 01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:41,799 Speaker 2: fly to Jacksonville for the game on Sunday. 1576 01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:44,200 Speaker 1: If you're in Jacksonville one pm. 1577 01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:46,639 Speaker 2: Get that in mind, one pm Eastern time if you're 1578 01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:49,960 Speaker 2: in Jacksonville, but twelve o'clock New Kick for all of 1579 01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:52,479 Speaker 2: us back here in Houston. Shawn Seth with the pregame 1580 01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:55,920 Speaker 2: show starting at nine. Then you've got Mark Andre and 1581 01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:58,920 Speaker 2: myself the broadcast starting at noon, and then hopefully it 1582 01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:01,360 Speaker 2: will be a joyous Jean Pendergass and Clinch Sturr are 1583 01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:03,160 Speaker 2: talking about a win over the Jaguars. 1584 01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:05,840 Speaker 1: Hopefully. It's got a lot of work to do to 1585 01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:06,880 Speaker 1: get there. 1586 01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:09,160 Speaker 2: Now, to get there, there are a lot of things 1587 01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:12,400 Speaker 2: that have got to happen. This past Monday was one 1588 01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:16,559 Speaker 2: of our favorite, one of my favorite discussions with Timiko Ryans. 1589 01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:17,920 Speaker 2: There are a lot of things that we got into. 1590 01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:19,559 Speaker 2: I know the guys who were at Portreo six ten. 1591 01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:22,920 Speaker 2: We're talking about those things this week. In particular, my 1592 01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:25,720 Speaker 2: question about the twenty four hour rule where you got 1593 01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:28,519 Speaker 2: to forget a loss, forget a win, gotta move on 1594 01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:30,840 Speaker 2: to next week. To Meeko had a different answer. He 1595 01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:33,240 Speaker 2: gets into that here. Because it's a field good Friday, 1596 01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:37,559 Speaker 2: and even though the Texas lost last Friday or last Sunday, 1597 01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:41,880 Speaker 2: still hearing from Dmiko Ryans makes me feel good. So 1598 01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:45,280 Speaker 2: we're gonna hear from the man himself right here on 1599 01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:47,040 Speaker 2: a field good Friday with Tamika. 1600 01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:49,800 Speaker 3: Ryans joining us in studios. Head coach Tamiko Ryans coach, 1601 01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:50,360 Speaker 3: how's it going. 1602 01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:52,400 Speaker 5: Good to see him, Good to see you guys as well. 1603 01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:55,200 Speaker 1: Happy Thanksgiving week. We'll get to that in a moment. 1604 01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:57,759 Speaker 3: Let's review a little bit about what happened against Tennessee. 1605 01:09:57,800 --> 01:09:59,519 Speaker 3: And I know you want the guys playing loose and 1606 01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:02,960 Speaker 3: making plays like they did. How do you balance that 1607 01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:04,640 Speaker 3: out with trying to correct some of the mistakes at 1608 01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:07,400 Speaker 3: the same time but keep that big play making ability. 1609 01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:09,880 Speaker 5: And we had a lot of you know, explosive plays 1610 01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:10,400 Speaker 5: being made. 1611 01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:12,519 Speaker 4: I mean, no bigger Damien opening the game with a 1612 01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:15,439 Speaker 4: big return what we wanted to do in the return 1613 01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:17,800 Speaker 4: game and we knew it was therefore, so for him 1614 01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:20,839 Speaker 4: to get the explosive k to get the touchdown. 1615 01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:22,000 Speaker 5: What a way to open the game. 1616 01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:24,040 Speaker 4: There are a lot more explosive plays we made with 1617 01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:28,160 Speaker 4: Nico with Tank like, we have the explosive playmakers, right, 1618 01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:31,400 Speaker 4: we can protect it and give us the opportunity to 1619 01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:33,720 Speaker 4: have those plays, but we just have to make sure 1620 01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:36,880 Speaker 4: we clean up all the things in between and all 1621 01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:39,679 Speaker 4: those things when it comes to the mistakes and things 1622 01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:42,439 Speaker 4: that happened for us, it's all things that we can control, 1623 01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:46,200 Speaker 4: and I'm encouraged by when I watched the tape and 1624 01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:49,800 Speaker 4: showing our guys, like every thing that happened that was 1625 01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:53,680 Speaker 4: a negative, it was something that we did to ourselves. 1626 01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:57,559 Speaker 4: It wasn't anything. No slight to the Titans. They did 1627 01:10:57,560 --> 01:10:59,880 Speaker 4: a good job of finishing and winning the game. But 1628 01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:02,400 Speaker 4: a lot of the things we can control, we can 1629 01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:04,679 Speaker 4: clean up, and we have to clean it up moving forward. 1630 01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:07,000 Speaker 4: And I'm excited to see our guys, you know, take 1631 01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:09,840 Speaker 4: ownership of it and make it happen in Jacksonville. 1632 01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:10,960 Speaker 1: Coach to Neil Hunter. 1633 01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:16,640 Speaker 2: The last two games, five sacks, eight TFLs maybe so 1634 01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:19,600 Speaker 2: something along those lines. Has been an unbelievable performance what 1635 01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:22,720 Speaker 2: he's given you off the edge when you went back 1636 01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:25,679 Speaker 2: and watched the film, was it as dominant on film 1637 01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:28,479 Speaker 2: as it looked from what we were watching it live? 1638 01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:30,920 Speaker 1: Did it look that dominant the way he played yesterday? 1639 01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:33,360 Speaker 4: This was the Nil's best game he's had thus far 1640 01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:36,600 Speaker 4: this year. It was extremely dominant. And that's what I 1641 01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:39,680 Speaker 4: would love to be highlighting right today. It is just 1642 01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:42,800 Speaker 4: the performance that he had, Like the rushes that he had, 1643 01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:45,200 Speaker 4: not only the rushes. Everybody sees the sacks and those 1644 01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:47,680 Speaker 4: things that happened, but and the way he played in 1645 01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:50,400 Speaker 4: the run game, the way his effort to the football, 1646 01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:54,719 Speaker 4: it was just a phenomenal effort by him, phenomenal game 1647 01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:56,880 Speaker 4: by him. Would love to be giving him a game 1648 01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:59,679 Speaker 4: ball right now for what he did, but he continues 1649 01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:03,040 Speaker 4: to rank have it for us and just man so 1650 01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:05,479 Speaker 4: excited to have him on our side. Such a great 1651 01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:08,439 Speaker 4: signing for us, and he's shown up and proving to 1652 01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:10,320 Speaker 4: be that impact player that we knew he was. 1653 01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:14,120 Speaker 2: Along those lines. Coach, how are you seeing teams start 1654 01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:17,040 Speaker 2: to adjust for him? Because obviously you've got other guys 1655 01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:18,560 Speaker 2: that can get to the quarterback as well from a 1656 01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:22,479 Speaker 2: lot different spots. But how are you seeing teams change? Okay, 1657 01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:24,439 Speaker 2: that's fifty five. Okay, we got to do some different 1658 01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:25,599 Speaker 2: things to maybe account for him. 1659 01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:27,519 Speaker 4: Well, we try to move those guys around a lot. 1660 01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:29,880 Speaker 4: We try to move Daniel and Will their different side. 1661 01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:32,120 Speaker 4: But what you see teams do is they'll try to 1662 01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:34,080 Speaker 4: get a tight end or running back in and they'll 1663 01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:36,400 Speaker 4: try to call chip them, so they'll try to give 1664 01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:38,759 Speaker 4: him a shot in the chest to slow them. 1665 01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:39,240 Speaker 5: Down a little bit. 1666 01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:42,160 Speaker 4: But even sometimes on the chips, you know, we kind 1667 01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:45,240 Speaker 4: of convert those chips into a game on the inside, 1668 01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:47,280 Speaker 4: and Daniel and Will have been doing a really good 1669 01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:51,160 Speaker 4: job of not allowing the chip just to stall their rush. 1670 01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:54,000 Speaker 4: But they're still continuing to press forward and get after 1671 01:12:54,040 --> 01:12:57,040 Speaker 4: the quarterback, even though we're seeing a lot more chips 1672 01:12:57,040 --> 01:12:58,160 Speaker 4: than we've seen earlier in the year. 1673 01:12:58,240 --> 01:13:00,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're able to get all those sacks, coach, but 1674 01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:01,559 Speaker 3: I know you want to do a better job against 1675 01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:03,320 Speaker 3: the run by and large. So what were some of 1676 01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:05,559 Speaker 3: the difficulties you were having in that aspect. 1677 01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:08,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, in the run game where you know Pollard got 1678 01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:10,200 Speaker 4: out on us, a lot of the runs were on 1679 01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:13,639 Speaker 4: the perimeter where we have to set the edge much better, 1680 01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:16,160 Speaker 4: and a lot of those runs they did a good 1681 01:13:16,240 --> 01:13:20,200 Speaker 4: job schematically pinning our defensive end, and now they're getting 1682 01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:23,720 Speaker 4: offensive linemen out on our corner, and the corner has 1683 01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:26,240 Speaker 4: to step up. Even though it's a bigger body guy, 1684 01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:28,120 Speaker 4: you still have to step up and just keep your 1685 01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:30,920 Speaker 4: outside on free and turn the ball back inside to 1686 01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:34,479 Speaker 4: the rest of the other ten defenders. And so we 1687 01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:36,240 Speaker 4: got a couple of runs out like that, and a 1688 01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:39,719 Speaker 4: couple of the inside runs we just didn't tackle well. 1689 01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:42,799 Speaker 4: One we had we were backed up. We had Pollard, 1690 01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:46,640 Speaker 4: I mean tackle behind a line of scrimmage and there 1691 01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:48,639 Speaker 4: was just felt like there was just a little let 1692 01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:51,400 Speaker 4: up where somebody else thought he was down or you 1693 01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:54,240 Speaker 4: thought the other guy made the play. But as I 1694 01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:56,400 Speaker 4: try to teach our guys, you always have to finish 1695 01:13:56,600 --> 01:13:58,599 Speaker 4: like you make sure you wrap up, secure the tackle 1696 01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:02,320 Speaker 4: and make sure we so some mistackles there and we 1697 01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:05,639 Speaker 4: can clean up, and some perimeter runs where he got 1698 01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:06,400 Speaker 4: the edge on us. 1699 01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:08,880 Speaker 2: Coach, I don't know what I'm about to say is 1700 01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:11,840 Speaker 2: a good thing or a bad thing, but I'll let 1701 01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:13,320 Speaker 2: you kind of wrong with it. We'll Levis threw for 1702 01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:16,320 Speaker 2: two hundred and seventy eight yards yesterday. One hundred and 1703 01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:18,679 Speaker 2: ninety eight of those yards came on. 1704 01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:19,759 Speaker 1: Four pass plays. 1705 01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:23,160 Speaker 2: So he had those four completions and you gave us 1706 01:14:23,160 --> 01:14:25,640 Speaker 2: some big poss plays, but basically the rest of the 1707 01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:29,080 Speaker 2: game he had eighty yards passing. How do you kind 1708 01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:31,240 Speaker 2: of look at something like that where he did get 1709 01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:34,360 Speaker 2: some explosive plays, but basically everything else with the rush 1710 01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:36,920 Speaker 2: and with some of the coverage, you're really hold to 1711 01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:39,280 Speaker 2: eighty yards if you don't have those plays. Fortunately he 1712 01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:40,120 Speaker 2: did have those plays. 1713 01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:42,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, he did have those plays, and I give credit 1714 01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:43,439 Speaker 4: to Levis. 1715 01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:44,639 Speaker 5: That was his strong suit of. 1716 01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:47,080 Speaker 4: Throwing the ball deep, and our guys knew that going 1717 01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:50,559 Speaker 4: into the game. But we give up one touchdown there 1718 01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:53,080 Speaker 4: once they crossed midfield. I mean, we got a guy 1719 01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:56,760 Speaker 4: running free. Our coverage isn't right, We're not deep enough 1720 01:14:56,840 --> 01:14:58,840 Speaker 4: on the inside and the guy is free on our 1721 01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:01,760 Speaker 4: safety and another one on third down. We get him 1722 01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:05,320 Speaker 4: in the third and long situation and you know where's 1723 01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:08,720 Speaker 4: Ridley running across the field. Like the rush there, and 1724 01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:11,960 Speaker 4: that was the one player our rush wasn't as effective, 1725 01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:14,960 Speaker 4: Probably one of our worst rushes of the game from 1726 01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:17,760 Speaker 4: a D line perspective. Gave Levis a little bit more time. 1727 01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:20,040 Speaker 4: He puts the ball in the air, and we're not 1728 01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:22,960 Speaker 4: deep enough at the safety position allowing to get a 1729 01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:23,559 Speaker 4: big play. 1730 01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:25,840 Speaker 5: So yew most of those plays. 1731 01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:28,240 Speaker 4: Try to give them credit, but a lot of those 1732 01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:32,320 Speaker 4: are things where we just have to be in better 1733 01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:34,600 Speaker 4: position and we have to be able to make the 1734 01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:36,120 Speaker 4: play when the ball is in their. 1735 01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:38,240 Speaker 3: You mentioned opening the game with the big kickoff return, 1736 01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:40,120 Speaker 3: then you find Stover right away in the end zone. 1737 01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:42,240 Speaker 1: Great to see the rookie get his first career touchdown 1738 01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:42,760 Speaker 1: and all of that. 1739 01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:45,559 Speaker 3: Great start to that game, and CJ made numerous other 1740 01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:48,479 Speaker 3: good throws in the game. But sometimes obviously it wasn't 1741 01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:51,400 Speaker 3: there as far as it was it pass protection or 1742 01:15:51,439 --> 01:15:54,320 Speaker 3: just the opportunities didn't present themselves in the passing game 1743 01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:56,000 Speaker 3: to score as much as you wanted to. 1744 01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:56,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, we had. 1745 01:15:57,120 --> 01:16:00,360 Speaker 4: We had a lot of opportunities, and you know, when 1746 01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:03,160 Speaker 4: it came down to it in a passing game, like 1747 01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:06,120 Speaker 4: there are some misses that we would like to have back, 1748 01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:09,800 Speaker 4: a couple like the third down miss or the two turno, like, 1749 01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:11,720 Speaker 4: we would like to have those throws back. Those are 1750 01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:14,040 Speaker 4: throws I know, and I tell CJ to day app 1751 01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:17,280 Speaker 4: I trust that he'll make those throws one hundred percent 1752 01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:19,120 Speaker 4: of the time. I put him back in the same 1753 01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:22,240 Speaker 4: situation again, and I know he'll make those throws because 1754 01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:24,960 Speaker 4: I believe in who he is as a person, and 1755 01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:26,920 Speaker 4: I believe in the talent that he has as a 1756 01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:30,759 Speaker 4: quarterback leading our team. So some unfortunate mistakes that happened 1757 01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:34,160 Speaker 4: there with the ball placement, but uh, you know for us, 1758 01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:36,639 Speaker 4: and I tell you keep going right, you keep going 1759 01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:39,599 Speaker 4: after it, you keep on keep playing aggressive, and we'll 1760 01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:41,320 Speaker 4: make those story. I thought the olon did a good 1761 01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:43,640 Speaker 4: job for protecting. For the most part. We had a 1762 01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:46,720 Speaker 4: couple you know, miscues there we got beat but for 1763 01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:49,200 Speaker 4: the most part we held up in protection and we 1764 01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:50,479 Speaker 4: had time coach. 1765 01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:53,160 Speaker 2: The last couple of games we've had Nico back, and 1766 01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:55,160 Speaker 2: unfortunately for the second straight game. 1767 01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:57,320 Speaker 1: Yes, he has a touchdown. 1768 01:16:56,880 --> 01:17:00,599 Speaker 2: Called back, but it just just feels better when he's 1769 01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:01,559 Speaker 2: in the line of them. 1770 01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:05,280 Speaker 1: It because he can make he can catch that dig route. 1771 01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:08,000 Speaker 2: He caught it probably about the twenty yard line and 1772 01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:09,880 Speaker 2: it's like boom, he at the boosters and he was 1773 01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:10,639 Speaker 2: in the end zone. 1774 01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:12,479 Speaker 1: And also you have to lead. Of course there's a 1775 01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:13,320 Speaker 1: penalty on that play. 1776 01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:16,040 Speaker 2: But what is he what is he giving your offense 1777 01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:18,800 Speaker 2: being back, not just the numbers, but just being out 1778 01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:21,960 Speaker 2: there and the threat that he possesses against the defense. 1779 01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:25,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's gonna garner the attention of two guys, like 1780 01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:27,760 Speaker 4: they have to make sure they account for Nico. Man, 1781 01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:31,000 Speaker 4: people fall asleep on how fast Nico is. Like he's 1782 01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:33,679 Speaker 4: he's a big receiver, big target, but man, he has 1783 01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:36,720 Speaker 4: he has wills, so he can roll and they're just 1784 01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:37,840 Speaker 4: having that thread. 1785 01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:38,760 Speaker 5: Of the deep playability. 1786 01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:42,000 Speaker 4: It opens up a lot of the intermediate throws in 1787 01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:44,120 Speaker 4: the middle of the field that we're able to connect on, 1788 01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:47,000 Speaker 4: Like we caught one with Tink going across the middle. 1789 01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:50,240 Speaker 4: So Nico just opens up the entire offense, and not 1790 01:17:50,320 --> 01:17:51,920 Speaker 4: only the deep threat, but you can give him a 1791 01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:54,400 Speaker 4: screen and he can take that to the house as well. 1792 01:17:54,439 --> 01:17:58,599 Speaker 4: It's just unbelievable talent. Mean, he's having an outstanding year. 1793 01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:01,280 Speaker 4: We just got to make sure it's downs count. Let's 1794 01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:04,600 Speaker 4: not hurt ourselves, make sure it's touchdowns count by just 1795 01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:05,679 Speaker 4: playing cleaning football. 1796 01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:08,639 Speaker 3: You talked about the running game in your press conference 1797 01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:09,720 Speaker 3: a little bit, coach, and is. 1798 01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:10,840 Speaker 1: It kind of a chicken and egg thing. 1799 01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:12,160 Speaker 3: You got to be better on third down so you 1800 01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:14,759 Speaker 3: get more opportunities to run the football, get more snaps, 1801 01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:16,000 Speaker 3: more attempts ated. 1802 01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:17,400 Speaker 1: Is it that kind of thing in a way? 1803 01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:18,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, it is. 1804 01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:20,080 Speaker 4: When we're running the football, like, we have to be 1805 01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:23,160 Speaker 4: able to control the line of scrimmage, and yesterday they 1806 01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:25,320 Speaker 4: we did not control the line of scrimmage right. 1807 01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:25,800 Speaker 5: We wanted to. 1808 01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:28,960 Speaker 4: Press the ball outside. We didn't handle the edges well 1809 01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:31,760 Speaker 4: enough to get the ball outside. So you saw Joe 1810 01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:33,840 Speaker 4: putting the foot of the ground and cutting back, Well, 1811 01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:36,280 Speaker 4: we're cutting back right into the teeth of their defense 1812 01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:39,720 Speaker 4: into the strong part of their defense where both of 1813 01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:42,400 Speaker 4: their detackles are. So you know, we're not gonna have 1814 01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:45,080 Speaker 4: a lot running versus those two guys. So we just 1815 01:18:45,160 --> 01:18:47,559 Speaker 4: did it execute on the edge a proper way, and 1816 01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:50,280 Speaker 4: we didn't stay on the second level well enough. We 1817 01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:53,160 Speaker 4: didn't sustain our blocks, and now you end up you're 1818 01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:56,200 Speaker 4: second and long, right, you're third and long, and now 1819 01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:58,680 Speaker 4: you're fighting at uphill battle again because now you have 1820 01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:00,840 Speaker 4: to run deeper round. I also have to protect a 1821 01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:03,840 Speaker 4: little bit longer, and now they're able to put more 1822 01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:06,800 Speaker 4: guys in coverage and it's hard to win those now. 1823 01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:08,439 Speaker 4: So we got to be able to stay in third 1824 01:19:08,439 --> 01:19:10,840 Speaker 4: and manageable or stay out of third down. 1825 01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:12,320 Speaker 5: And that's where I want to be, staying. 1826 01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:14,920 Speaker 4: Out of third down, and you know, getting those more 1827 01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:19,280 Speaker 4: positive plays on first down. But too many times yesterday 1828 01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:22,800 Speaker 4: where we go out, we have a big play, we 1829 01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:26,880 Speaker 4: have a positive throw completion on first down, and we 1830 01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:30,000 Speaker 4: turn around and we're going backwards. So we just have 1831 01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:31,519 Speaker 4: to eliminate the backward plays. 1832 01:19:31,720 --> 01:19:33,559 Speaker 2: Could you talk about this all the time, the twenty 1833 01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:36,439 Speaker 2: four hour rule, you know, dealing with Wednesday, to you 1834 01:19:36,479 --> 01:19:38,200 Speaker 2: go twenty four hours, and you also talk about it with. 1835 01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:41,240 Speaker 1: Losses, but in a loss, and we've. 1836 01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:42,640 Speaker 2: Got to know you or march on you for a 1837 01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:44,360 Speaker 2: little bit longer than I have, But I've got to 1838 01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:44,600 Speaker 2: know you. 1839 01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:48,759 Speaker 1: I know that the game it's it's you're always thinking 1840 01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:49,280 Speaker 1: about it. 1841 01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:52,120 Speaker 2: How tough is it to actually apply the twenty four 1842 01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:56,680 Speaker 2: hour rule and really let it go before you move 1843 01:19:56,720 --> 01:19:58,760 Speaker 2: on and get ready for the jacksonvill jryguars. How tough 1844 01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:01,160 Speaker 2: is it to really like, is it really twenty four hours? 1845 01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:03,280 Speaker 2: Do you have to like say, Okay, I gotta get 1846 01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:04,920 Speaker 2: my mind on something else. I gotta do something else. 1847 01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:06,680 Speaker 2: So I've got this one behind me. How tough is 1848 01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:08,960 Speaker 2: it to kind of apply that rule for yourself? 1849 01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:11,880 Speaker 4: This is extremely tough, and I'm not letting this one go. 1850 01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:15,120 Speaker 4: This will be a week long one that I make 1851 01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:18,360 Speaker 4: sure we all remember. And so I mean, we gotta change, 1852 01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:21,360 Speaker 4: we gotta play better. So this one is gonna sit 1853 01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:23,439 Speaker 4: with me all week until we get the opportunity to 1854 01:20:23,479 --> 01:20:27,360 Speaker 4: go out and compete again versus the Jaguar. So I 1855 01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:29,720 Speaker 4: want this to sit I want this to sting all 1856 01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:32,400 Speaker 4: week for our guys, and I want everybody to feel 1857 01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:35,000 Speaker 4: I know that's how I'm gonna be feeling all week 1858 01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:37,440 Speaker 4: until we were able to go and change it. 1859 01:20:37,439 --> 01:20:40,160 Speaker 3: It's the second time you face them and they're coming 1860 01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:40,639 Speaker 3: off the buy. 1861 01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:42,160 Speaker 1: What about that aspect of it? 1862 01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:44,320 Speaker 3: A team coming off a buye because they do self 1863 01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:46,240 Speaker 3: scout or whatever else they do. I know they can't 1864 01:20:46,280 --> 01:20:49,960 Speaker 3: go wholesale different, but there's gonna be some wrinkles maybe. 1865 01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:51,240 Speaker 1: How do you look at that kind of thing? 1866 01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:51,679 Speaker 5: For sure? 1867 01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:54,080 Speaker 4: Coming off a bye, you do have the advantage being 1868 01:20:54,120 --> 01:20:55,919 Speaker 4: the team that's on the buy. You have an advantage 1869 01:20:55,960 --> 01:20:58,160 Speaker 4: to look at yourself see kind of like you say, 1870 01:20:58,160 --> 01:21:00,639 Speaker 4: self scout, to see things where you can proved, things 1871 01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:02,760 Speaker 4: you can change. And they had a little extra time 1872 01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:05,800 Speaker 4: to watch us, right, and so a little extra time 1873 01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:08,439 Speaker 4: to scout us and see where we're weak, what areas 1874 01:21:08,439 --> 01:21:10,519 Speaker 4: they can to try to attack us in. So you 1875 01:21:10,600 --> 01:21:14,559 Speaker 4: really have to be be on it. Nothing different for 1876 01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:16,559 Speaker 4: us to do. We just got to go out and execute. 1877 01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:18,760 Speaker 4: But for them, they may have some more wrinkles. But 1878 01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:20,960 Speaker 4: I always believe and if we play our rules the 1879 01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:24,000 Speaker 4: proper way, if we execute and we're on the details 1880 01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:25,960 Speaker 4: how we're supposed to be on the details, and it 1881 01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:28,320 Speaker 4: really doesn't matter how much they've studied or how much 1882 01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:31,760 Speaker 4: they watch, they still have to cover twelve and that's 1883 01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:34,599 Speaker 4: always a difficult matchup no matter what adjustments you make. 1884 01:21:35,080 --> 01:21:38,280 Speaker 1: So face them earlier, now you face them again. Trevor 1885 01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:40,040 Speaker 1: Lawrence hasn't played for a few weeks. 1886 01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:42,560 Speaker 2: I know we talked about it when we're facing the 1887 01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:45,320 Speaker 2: first time, and what type of quarterback he is. Now 1888 01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:47,280 Speaker 2: he's been out for a few weeks and we really 1889 01:21:47,320 --> 01:21:48,800 Speaker 2: don't know if he's gonna play or not. He's dealing 1890 01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:51,759 Speaker 2: with the shoulder issue. What are your thoughts about facing 1891 01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:55,280 Speaker 2: potentially Lawrence, but then getting ready for Mac Jones potentially 1892 01:21:55,400 --> 01:21:56,160 Speaker 2: quarterback as well. 1893 01:21:56,479 --> 01:21:58,800 Speaker 4: And for me, as I go in, I'm preparing for 1894 01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:01,240 Speaker 4: or prepared for Trevor. We'll see how the reports go 1895 01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:02,559 Speaker 4: throughout the week, see if he's. 1896 01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:03,040 Speaker 5: Playing or not. 1897 01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:05,800 Speaker 4: But we have to look at both guys, right, be 1898 01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:08,559 Speaker 4: ready for Mac and be ready for Trevor. But to me, 1899 01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:11,960 Speaker 4: it's this week, man, I'm not even that's not even 1900 01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:14,559 Speaker 4: the way. It's not even My focal point is who's 1901 01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:16,200 Speaker 4: playing quarterback for Jacksonville. 1902 01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:19,599 Speaker 5: My focal point will be strictly on the Texans. 1903 01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:21,760 Speaker 2: You talked about this in your press conference, and I know, 1904 01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:25,120 Speaker 2: we've talked about this before, and you talk about defensively 1905 01:22:25,160 --> 01:22:27,439 Speaker 2: in particular, if we play the defense the way it's 1906 01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:30,040 Speaker 2: supposed to be played, we've got answers to the test. 1907 01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:34,519 Speaker 1: How important is for is it for us coaching staff 1908 01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:36,640 Speaker 1: to make sure players understand it? 1909 01:22:36,640 --> 01:22:40,759 Speaker 2: Hey, look, there are answers right there, just just apply 1910 01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:43,240 Speaker 2: them properly. I mean, obviously that's the heart of coaching. 1911 01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:45,320 Speaker 2: But then you get this late in the season. Buys 1912 01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:47,840 Speaker 2: are fatigued a little bit mentally fatigued. How do you 1913 01:22:47,880 --> 01:22:50,759 Speaker 2: make sure that they do run the defense in particular 1914 01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:51,400 Speaker 2: the way you want it? 1915 01:22:51,479 --> 01:22:52,040 Speaker 5: And that's the thing. 1916 01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:54,800 Speaker 4: You have to overcome that mental fatigue of you're doing 1917 01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:57,320 Speaker 4: the same thing and kind of get monotonous over and 1918 01:22:57,360 --> 01:23:01,400 Speaker 4: over again, and get a little relaxed in this area. 1919 01:23:01,439 --> 01:23:04,240 Speaker 4: And I decide to, let's say, jump a route when 1920 01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:06,280 Speaker 4: I shouldn't be jumping a rounde, or I decide to 1921 01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:08,559 Speaker 4: not get as much depth when I should be deep, 1922 01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:11,479 Speaker 4: and those just come back to bite you. It's nothing 1923 01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:13,679 Speaker 4: that I always look at, nothing that the offense did, 1924 01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:17,280 Speaker 4: because you know, we understand the issues and the plays 1925 01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:19,760 Speaker 4: that people will run versus our scheme. A lot of 1926 01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:22,240 Speaker 4: times we see a lot of repeat plays. So there 1927 01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:25,240 Speaker 4: are other teams that hit plays on us, we'll see 1928 01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:28,360 Speaker 4: those plays again. We call it, you know, copycat offenses. 1929 01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:30,679 Speaker 4: They'll try to run the same thing because structurally we're 1930 01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:31,960 Speaker 4: not changing defensively. 1931 01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:35,360 Speaker 5: So we work those issue plays. 1932 01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:39,000 Speaker 4: And so we hang our hat on being a stickler 1933 01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:41,360 Speaker 4: for the details and being on it to the point 1934 01:23:41,439 --> 01:23:43,320 Speaker 4: where we know what the offense is running and we're 1935 01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:45,160 Speaker 4: gonna defend it better than you can run it. 1936 01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:47,599 Speaker 3: Coach, what can you tell the audience about the difference 1937 01:23:47,640 --> 01:23:51,200 Speaker 3: between say, a Monday team meeting and a Friday team meeting. 1938 01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:53,080 Speaker 3: And I know a Monday team meeting after a loss 1939 01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:55,320 Speaker 3: versus a win very different. But what can you share 1940 01:23:55,360 --> 01:23:57,680 Speaker 3: with us about those those meetings because we can't get 1941 01:23:57,720 --> 01:23:58,320 Speaker 3: inside the room. 1942 01:23:58,439 --> 01:24:03,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, Monday meeting like to very quiet, very quiet meeting 1943 01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:06,800 Speaker 4: today where you know, I go through and I cut 1944 01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:09,840 Speaker 4: out some plays from our game and the entire game, 1945 01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:13,720 Speaker 4: the special teams offense, defense, and I go through just 1946 01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:17,400 Speaker 4: it's called it a rundown of the game and seek 1947 01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:20,960 Speaker 4: sequential orders just to show you guys, Okay, what really. 1948 01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:23,120 Speaker 5: Happened in the game and how did we lose? 1949 01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:27,160 Speaker 4: So I just go play by play, highlighting the good 1950 01:24:27,160 --> 01:24:29,880 Speaker 4: things that happen and also highlighting the bad things, like, hey, 1951 01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:33,960 Speaker 4: if we were just on this small detail could have 1952 01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:37,599 Speaker 4: been I don't know, a potential touchdown for us right 1953 01:24:37,680 --> 01:24:40,240 Speaker 4: or this could have been a potential takeaway for us. 1954 01:24:40,360 --> 01:24:42,000 Speaker 5: So I go through and highlight that today. 1955 01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:44,240 Speaker 4: It probably had about fifty or sixty plays a little 1956 01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:46,880 Speaker 4: long winded in there today, and the guys have to 1957 01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:49,559 Speaker 4: sit through it or suffer through it, however you look 1958 01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:53,000 Speaker 4: at it. And then our Friday meeting, Friday meeting is 1959 01:24:53,040 --> 01:24:56,400 Speaker 4: definitely more it's more upbeat, energetic meeting. 1960 01:24:56,439 --> 01:24:57,160 Speaker 5: Friday meetings. 1961 01:24:57,200 --> 01:25:00,000 Speaker 4: We're going kind of around the league and we're seeing 1962 01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:03,320 Speaker 4: things that happen in the previous week around the league 1963 01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:06,360 Speaker 4: of things we can learn from mistakes other teams made 1964 01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:09,880 Speaker 4: or some really good things teams did, and we can 1965 01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:12,720 Speaker 4: highlight and just so our guys have a really good 1966 01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:15,320 Speaker 4: understanding a grasp of the game, because there are a 1967 01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:18,080 Speaker 4: lot of situations and things that come up around the 1968 01:25:18,160 --> 01:25:20,840 Speaker 4: league that may not happen in our game, or may 1969 01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:23,720 Speaker 4: not happen but only like one time a year, but 1970 01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:26,080 Speaker 4: we get the chance to teach off of that from 1971 01:25:26,120 --> 01:25:28,960 Speaker 4: other teams. So it's more of a teaching meeting. And 1972 01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:32,080 Speaker 4: also in that Friday meeting, we go over our we 1973 01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:35,280 Speaker 4: have a third down compete period, and so I put 1974 01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:38,280 Speaker 4: those four plays up and go through it offense, defense, 1975 01:25:38,280 --> 01:25:40,639 Speaker 4: and we highlight you know, who wins the down, who 1976 01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:42,719 Speaker 4: loses it down, and then we always have a little 1977 01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:46,040 Speaker 4: friendly competition amongst the offense and defense or third down. 1978 01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:47,960 Speaker 1: I love that competition everything you do. 1979 01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:51,280 Speaker 2: When you were a player and you knew you were 1980 01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:53,799 Speaker 2: having one of those Monday meetings where you knew coaches 1981 01:25:53,800 --> 01:25:56,400 Speaker 2: bringing forty five to fifty plays to show you, was 1982 01:25:56,439 --> 01:25:58,000 Speaker 2: that one of those You're like, man, I hope you 1983 01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:00,920 Speaker 2: missed that third down. You never have that kind of 1984 01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:03,160 Speaker 2: thought like, man I do that third down? I hope 1985 01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:06,400 Speaker 2: you don't that all there? It is, oh Dad, over. 1986 01:26:06,320 --> 01:26:08,640 Speaker 4: Your heads down a little bit like hurry up and 1987 01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:16,120 Speaker 4: get past that place quickly as possible. But it's it's 1988 01:26:16,120 --> 01:26:18,479 Speaker 4: always tough as a player. You know it's coming and 1989 01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:21,120 Speaker 4: you can't you're waiting on that moment. You just hope 1990 01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:23,519 Speaker 4: it is not as severe as you think it will be. 1991 01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:27,960 Speaker 4: But I always, I never, always try to do it 1992 01:26:27,479 --> 01:26:30,280 Speaker 4: in a way to make sure I'm encouraging with it 1993 01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:33,040 Speaker 4: and just hey, if we were just one step better here, 1994 01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:35,479 Speaker 4: or if we just had our eyes right here, like 1995 01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:37,640 Speaker 4: just think about what it could have been. Like, I 1996 01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:40,640 Speaker 4: know everybody understands the mistakes. I don't try to go 1997 01:26:40,720 --> 01:26:44,479 Speaker 4: back and overemphasize the mistake and I emphasize what we 1998 01:26:44,479 --> 01:26:45,160 Speaker 4: can do different. 1999 01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:47,960 Speaker 3: Going on the road is one thing, and you've been 2000 01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:49,519 Speaker 3: on the road, but you haven't been on the road 2001 01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:52,280 Speaker 3: in the division since opening day. And there's just something 2002 01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:55,160 Speaker 3: about that, isn't there when you're facing a division opponent. 2003 01:26:55,240 --> 01:26:57,000 Speaker 3: You just faced the division opponent, You saw what they 2004 01:26:57,000 --> 01:26:59,920 Speaker 3: brought to the table, So what about that aspect of it? 2005 01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:02,200 Speaker 4: Excited to get on the road, Excited to get on 2006 01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:05,439 Speaker 4: the road again, especially versus our division opponent and in 2007 01:27:05,560 --> 01:27:10,080 Speaker 4: Jacksonville team, we know this is a big game for us, right, 2008 01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:11,960 Speaker 4: this is one we have to go out. 2009 01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:12,920 Speaker 5: We have to win this game. 2010 01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:15,280 Speaker 4: We have to clean up all of our issues right 2011 01:27:15,320 --> 01:27:17,639 Speaker 4: and make sure we go out and play the game 2012 01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:19,880 Speaker 4: the right way, so just so we're able to compete. 2013 01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:22,360 Speaker 4: I think for me is the main thing is getting 2014 01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:25,439 Speaker 4: out our own way and let's go and compete and 2015 01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:28,040 Speaker 4: may the best man win. But let's go out and 2016 01:27:28,040 --> 01:27:31,920 Speaker 4: play Texans brand of football that's operating with precision, effort 2017 01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:35,840 Speaker 4: and physicality. Right, If we do that, that travels on 2018 01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:37,960 Speaker 4: the road. Right, One thing I know, going on the road, 2019 01:27:37,960 --> 01:27:40,840 Speaker 4: we've ran the ball well for whatever reason it's been, 2020 01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:43,639 Speaker 4: we ran the ball well on the road. So hopefully 2021 01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:46,120 Speaker 4: that shows up. You have to be able to travel 2022 01:27:46,160 --> 01:27:48,840 Speaker 4: with the run game. So let's play well in the 2023 01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:52,040 Speaker 4: run game. Let's play good defense, and let's make this 2024 01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:53,879 Speaker 4: a win for the Texans. 2025 01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:56,280 Speaker 1: And we're back outside on grass, which is something we 2026 01:27:56,400 --> 01:27:59,439 Speaker 1: do and that's rare. It's really rare in the NFL. 2027 01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:03,160 Speaker 2: Now, coach, you mentioned your press conference, you're earlier in 2028 01:28:03,160 --> 01:28:07,679 Speaker 2: the game. We lost Jalen Petrie. What what is lost 2029 01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:11,680 Speaker 2: with Jalen? And how do you go about replacing all 2030 01:28:11,720 --> 01:28:13,000 Speaker 2: the different things he did for you? 2031 01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:14,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, Jay want to be out for a couple of 2032 01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:17,960 Speaker 4: weeks with the with the shoulder injury. Uh man, it's 2033 01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:22,240 Speaker 4: just it's a gut punch to me. He's a guy 2034 01:28:22,360 --> 01:28:25,120 Speaker 4: that he did so much for me defensively and what 2035 01:28:25,160 --> 01:28:26,800 Speaker 4: we're what I was able to call what I was 2036 01:28:26,840 --> 01:28:30,200 Speaker 4: able to do just with the different things that he 2037 01:28:30,240 --> 01:28:32,800 Speaker 4: was able to do, whether it's blitzing or covering, like 2038 01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:35,720 Speaker 4: fitting in the run like being a nickel and being 2039 01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:37,320 Speaker 4: able to fit in the run fit. The way he 2040 01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:39,479 Speaker 4: fits in a run fit is just you don't You 2041 01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:41,599 Speaker 4: don't see that much. Most people are trying to keep 2042 01:28:41,680 --> 01:28:43,640 Speaker 4: him out of the run fit, but I'm trying to 2043 01:28:43,640 --> 01:28:47,040 Speaker 4: get Jalen into the action as much as possible. He's 2044 01:28:47,040 --> 01:28:51,240 Speaker 4: just been such a dynamic playmaker for us all throughout 2045 01:28:51,240 --> 01:28:53,800 Speaker 4: the year. So yeah, we had to pick up the 2046 01:28:53,840 --> 01:28:57,200 Speaker 4: slack there. It's gonna be tough. That's because how active 2047 01:28:57,240 --> 01:29:00,439 Speaker 4: he was, and you know just how instrument mental he 2048 01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:03,920 Speaker 4: was to just how our scheme started to shift and 2049 01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:05,080 Speaker 4: change throughout the year. 2050 01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:06,639 Speaker 5: So we'll pick it up. 2051 01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:08,360 Speaker 4: We'll pick it up and try to hold it down 2052 01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:10,320 Speaker 4: for him as as long as he needs to be 2053 01:29:10,360 --> 01:29:11,000 Speaker 4: out well. 2054 01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:13,280 Speaker 5: Man praying for Jalen to have a speed on recovery. 2055 01:29:13,400 --> 01:29:15,439 Speaker 3: So somebody's gonna have to step up. And you have 2056 01:29:15,560 --> 01:29:17,120 Speaker 3: this a lot where you have to either elevate a 2057 01:29:17,160 --> 01:29:19,519 Speaker 3: guy from the practice squad or address a guy might 2058 01:29:19,560 --> 01:29:21,599 Speaker 3: not normally dress or hasn't dressed that often. 2059 01:29:21,680 --> 01:29:24,000 Speaker 1: How do you deal with those guys? What do you 2060 01:29:24,040 --> 01:29:24,519 Speaker 1: say to them? 2061 01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:27,360 Speaker 3: Because the guy might be disappointed he's not playing this week, 2062 01:29:27,400 --> 01:29:28,920 Speaker 3: but he's got to be ready because he might play 2063 01:29:28,960 --> 01:29:31,360 Speaker 3: next week. A guy the practice squad could be elevated 2064 01:29:31,400 --> 01:29:33,799 Speaker 3: Tommy Togy as a sack in the game against the Titans. 2065 01:29:34,200 --> 01:29:35,599 Speaker 1: How do you address those guys? 2066 01:29:35,720 --> 01:29:38,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, how I address him is everybody has to be ready. 2067 01:29:38,920 --> 01:29:41,519 Speaker 4: Like I always tell our guys practice squad, you're not 2068 01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:45,280 Speaker 4: just a practice player, like you're one play away from 2069 01:29:45,320 --> 01:29:47,799 Speaker 4: being in and playing, just like Tommy was. And Tommy 2070 01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:50,800 Speaker 4: has been playing really good for us, right And it's 2071 01:29:51,360 --> 01:29:54,320 Speaker 4: is you can never relax. And that's the main message 2072 01:29:54,360 --> 01:29:56,160 Speaker 4: to all of our guys. You can never relax because 2073 01:29:56,160 --> 01:29:58,840 Speaker 4: it may just be your moment and you won't know 2074 01:29:58,840 --> 01:30:00,880 Speaker 4: if you're ready for that moment until you get thrust 2075 01:30:00,920 --> 01:30:03,120 Speaker 4: into the moment and the bright lights are on. 2076 01:30:03,320 --> 01:30:06,240 Speaker 5: But uh, it's not. 2077 01:30:06,479 --> 01:30:08,640 Speaker 4: I mean I always try to let our guys know, 2078 01:30:08,840 --> 01:30:11,920 Speaker 4: like any given moment, everybody prepares like you're a starter 2079 01:30:12,240 --> 01:30:14,880 Speaker 4: because you are a starter, and our guys have taken 2080 01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:17,840 Speaker 4: that mindset and their role and sometimes you don't even 2081 01:30:17,880 --> 01:30:21,120 Speaker 4: know as the week goes on. Sometimes guys have nicks 2082 01:30:21,120 --> 01:30:23,400 Speaker 4: and injuries throughout the week and it may change at 2083 01:30:23,400 --> 01:30:26,000 Speaker 4: the last minute. It may change on Friday, all right, 2084 01:30:26,040 --> 01:30:28,280 Speaker 4: if a guy's getting elevated or a guy's not. 2085 01:30:28,720 --> 01:30:31,720 Speaker 5: So you don't I don't know. They don't know. So 2086 01:30:32,120 --> 01:30:34,960 Speaker 5: we don't have time to worry about. Are you ready? 2087 01:30:35,040 --> 01:30:36,200 Speaker 5: Did you prepare all week? 2088 01:30:36,320 --> 01:30:38,840 Speaker 4: No, you're taking the same notes in a meeting, just 2089 01:30:38,880 --> 01:30:39,880 Speaker 4: as if you were a starter. 2090 01:30:40,160 --> 01:30:42,200 Speaker 5: And we'll see on Saturday. 2091 01:30:42,280 --> 01:30:44,800 Speaker 4: Sometimes a guy, Hey, we got to elevate this guy 2092 01:30:44,840 --> 01:30:45,479 Speaker 4: on Saturday? 2093 01:30:45,600 --> 01:30:46,320 Speaker 5: Is he ready to go? 2094 01:30:46,400 --> 01:30:51,280 Speaker 1: Get on the plane. Let's go this we've reached now 2095 01:30:51,560 --> 01:30:52,840 Speaker 1: one of I don't know. 2096 01:30:52,840 --> 01:30:54,719 Speaker 2: It can be a magical time of year can also 2097 01:30:54,760 --> 01:30:57,200 Speaker 2: be a difficult time of year because it's the holiday season. 2098 01:30:57,600 --> 01:30:58,840 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving is this week. 2099 01:30:59,080 --> 01:31:01,360 Speaker 2: Some great holidays are happening over the next how many 2100 01:31:01,400 --> 01:31:03,640 Speaker 2: ever weeks. We also got a job to do. You 2101 01:31:03,640 --> 01:31:05,519 Speaker 2: gotta go out there and play football. You gotta coach. 2102 01:31:05,560 --> 01:31:07,720 Speaker 2: We got to do our jobs. How tough does this 2103 01:31:07,800 --> 01:31:11,760 Speaker 2: time of year become because of the holidays and families 2104 01:31:11,800 --> 01:31:13,360 Speaker 2: and all the different get togethers and all that kind 2105 01:31:13,360 --> 01:31:15,800 Speaker 2: of stuff. Does it become more difficult or you kind 2106 01:31:15,840 --> 01:31:17,479 Speaker 2: of welcome to challenge in some respects? 2107 01:31:18,000 --> 01:31:20,280 Speaker 4: It is difficult. I mean to be honest, it is 2108 01:31:20,280 --> 01:31:23,519 Speaker 4: a difficult time, because it's such a distraction, right, you 2109 01:31:23,560 --> 01:31:26,960 Speaker 4: have family in town or whatever the case, it's a 2110 01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:30,519 Speaker 4: distraction to guys because our week really doesn't change, Like 2111 01:31:30,600 --> 01:31:33,240 Speaker 4: it's just like we have another game to prepare for. 2112 01:31:33,800 --> 01:31:36,120 Speaker 4: And what I don't want our guys or coaches to 2113 01:31:36,360 --> 01:31:40,280 Speaker 4: get distracted with the holidays and try to make that 2114 01:31:40,400 --> 01:31:43,400 Speaker 4: bigger than it needs to be. Like the big game 2115 01:31:43,439 --> 01:31:46,280 Speaker 4: for us, the big holiday for us is next Sunday 2116 01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:48,840 Speaker 4: in Jacksonville, Like that's my holiday, and I want our 2117 01:31:48,840 --> 01:31:51,760 Speaker 4: guys to have that mindset to prepare the same way. 2118 01:31:51,800 --> 01:31:55,120 Speaker 4: Our preparation doesn't change, Like we'll adjust our schedule. Of course, 2119 01:31:55,160 --> 01:31:58,480 Speaker 4: I'm not just oblivious to the fact that it's Thanksgiving. 2120 01:31:58,520 --> 01:32:01,200 Speaker 4: I want guys to spend that time with your families, right, 2121 01:32:01,240 --> 01:32:04,320 Speaker 4: So we'll we'll cut our guys loose after practice, right 2122 01:32:04,360 --> 01:32:06,439 Speaker 4: to give them the afternoon to hang with their families. 2123 01:32:06,479 --> 01:32:11,400 Speaker 4: But it's also like, don't overeat, don't stay up too 2124 01:32:11,479 --> 01:32:13,960 Speaker 4: late like all those days, like you still have to 2125 01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:17,559 Speaker 4: show up on Sunday, your families going back home wherever 2126 01:32:17,600 --> 01:32:19,840 Speaker 4: they coming out of town, and you got to go 2127 01:32:20,080 --> 01:32:23,720 Speaker 4: perform on Sunday at a high level. So don't overdo it. 2128 01:32:23,760 --> 01:32:25,559 Speaker 4: On Thursday and allow that to affect you. 2129 01:32:25,640 --> 01:32:25,920 Speaker 1: All right. 2130 01:32:25,960 --> 01:32:28,920 Speaker 3: Speaking of which, the Amergy Bank asked Coach question another 2131 01:32:28,920 --> 01:32:30,839 Speaker 3: week now. Last year we asked you what your favorite 2132 01:32:30,840 --> 01:32:33,360 Speaker 3: dish was, Okay, which I forgot already, so I'm sorry 2133 01:32:33,360 --> 01:32:33,800 Speaker 3: about that. 2134 01:32:33,880 --> 01:32:35,120 Speaker 1: So refresh our memory. 2135 01:32:36,040 --> 01:32:39,679 Speaker 4: Favorite this Thanksgiving things probably sweet potato casse. 2136 01:32:39,560 --> 01:32:40,680 Speaker 1: Role Okay, beautiful. 2137 01:32:40,880 --> 01:32:43,639 Speaker 3: But this year we're going to ask you to replace 2138 01:32:43,760 --> 01:32:47,080 Speaker 3: turkey on the table. You're replacing the starting quarterback of 2139 01:32:47,160 --> 01:32:48,400 Speaker 3: Thanksgiving turkey. 2140 01:32:48,680 --> 01:32:52,679 Speaker 1: What else would you serve if you had to, Coach? 2141 01:32:52,840 --> 01:32:56,080 Speaker 4: If I had to replace the turkey, Let's get some 2142 01:32:56,640 --> 01:32:58,519 Speaker 4: I guess you go with the ham. You go with 2143 01:32:58,560 --> 01:33:02,120 Speaker 4: the honey baked ham, before you go with some man, 2144 01:33:02,120 --> 01:33:03,400 Speaker 4: I would love some jerk chicken. 2145 01:33:03,479 --> 01:33:06,439 Speaker 5: That would go really awesome? Can we do that? 2146 01:33:06,520 --> 01:33:15,839 Speaker 1: I'd rather have that the week. That's awesome. Barbecue briss. 2147 01:33:16,400 --> 01:33:20,599 Speaker 4: You can here in Texas every day of the week. 2148 01:33:20,680 --> 01:33:22,439 Speaker 1: Coach, Thanks for the time, good luck, Thanks you guys 2149 01:33:22,560 --> 01:33:23,040 Speaker 1: enjoying it. 2150 01:33:23,200 --> 01:33:26,639 Speaker 2: I love every single one of those conversations every single Monday, 2151 01:33:26,840 --> 01:33:28,160 Speaker 2: and that's why we bring it back to you on 2152 01:33:28,200 --> 01:33:30,760 Speaker 2: Friday so you can feel good this weekend heading in 2153 01:33:30,840 --> 01:33:34,400 Speaker 2: because that man is your head coach, and that makes 2154 01:33:34,439 --> 01:33:35,120 Speaker 2: me feel good. 2155 01:33:35,160 --> 01:33:38,439 Speaker 1: Has it gone one hundred percent right? This? Uh, this fault? No, 2156 01:33:39,240 --> 01:33:40,639 Speaker 1: but that man will get. 2157 01:33:40,479 --> 01:33:43,640 Speaker 2: It right, and hopefully it starts on Sunday against the 2158 01:33:43,760 --> 01:33:48,040 Speaker 2: Jacksonville Jaguars, more than likely seeing Trevor Lawrence. We know 2159 01:33:48,120 --> 01:33:51,599 Speaker 2: we'll see Brian Thomas Junior, Evan Ingram. They've got some weapons. 2160 01:33:51,840 --> 01:33:54,240 Speaker 2: The offensive line is better than people think. The defense 2161 01:33:54,280 --> 01:33:58,200 Speaker 2: of front in particular is really really good. So Texans 2162 01:33:58,200 --> 01:34:02,200 Speaker 2: have got to get their house in order on this 2163 01:34:02,400 --> 01:34:05,760 Speaker 2: thirteenth straight football game in a row of the year. 2164 01:34:06,000 --> 01:34:08,400 Speaker 2: That's a lot, man, so more than the Texas have 2165 01:34:08,439 --> 01:34:11,519 Speaker 2: ever done. So suck it up for sixty minutes, get 2166 01:34:11,560 --> 01:34:15,840 Speaker 2: a dub in Duval County, and then take a cyberlief 2167 01:34:16,720 --> 01:34:19,280 Speaker 2: whatever you want to do the week of the bye, 2168 01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:21,839 Speaker 2: and then get into those final four games, which everybody 2169 01:34:21,880 --> 01:34:24,599 Speaker 2: has talked about since this schedule came out. But those 2170 01:34:24,640 --> 01:34:27,400 Speaker 2: four games won't matter a whole heck of a lot 2171 01:34:27,840 --> 01:34:29,960 Speaker 2: if you don't go into Jacksonville and take care of 2172 01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:32,880 Speaker 2: business against AFC South Folk. 2173 01:34:33,280 --> 01:34:34,759 Speaker 1: Jacksonville. 2174 01:34:34,920 --> 01:34:37,400 Speaker 2: You have been winning games on the road in the 2175 01:34:37,479 --> 01:34:40,920 Speaker 2: division for a long time, dating all the way back 2176 01:34:40,920 --> 01:34:46,280 Speaker 2: to twenty twenty one, do it again one more time, 2177 01:34:46,400 --> 01:34:49,080 Speaker 2: going to the buy feeling really good. A big thanks 2178 01:34:49,080 --> 01:34:52,040 Speaker 2: to Damiko Ryans, to Mark Vandermir, to Drew Doherty, to 2179 01:34:52,240 --> 01:34:55,120 Speaker 2: ziz al Shire, to Jonathan Alexander, to all of you 2180 01:34:55,200 --> 01:34:57,120 Speaker 2: for listening. It's time to go get another one of 2181 01:34:57,240 --> 01:35:00,320 Speaker 2: Jacksonville folks. Thank you, my guys the Sports Radio six ten. 2182 01:35:01,040 --> 01:35:03,879 Speaker 2: Have a great weekend everyone, and as always, go Texans. 2183 01:35:05,520 --> 01:35:08,280 Speaker 3: Hello Texans, Welcome to the program. It's the Friday night 2184 01:35:08,439 --> 01:35:11,360 Speaker 3: Bonus hour of Texans Radio and it's so great to 2185 01:35:11,360 --> 01:35:14,720 Speaker 3: have you along because we've got some choice cuts content 2186 01:35:15,280 --> 01:35:15,680 Speaker 3: for you. 2187 01:35:15,720 --> 01:35:18,240 Speaker 1: That we have showcased throughout the week. 2188 01:35:18,280 --> 01:35:20,479 Speaker 3: We've taken some of the best of as we always 2189 01:35:20,520 --> 01:35:24,040 Speaker 3: do Friday night at this hour, Black Friday. Hope you're 2190 01:35:24,160 --> 01:35:28,599 Speaker 3: digesting your meal from yesterday and whatever you put down today, 2191 01:35:28,680 --> 01:35:32,040 Speaker 3: and let's hope we digest. I'll win on Sunday afternoon 2192 01:35:32,080 --> 01:35:36,240 Speaker 3: after the Texans take on the Jacksonville Jaguars on the road. 2193 01:35:36,640 --> 01:35:40,679 Speaker 3: Haven't been on the road in the division since opening day, 2194 01:35:40,800 --> 01:35:43,600 Speaker 3: so we'll talk about that with Executive vice president and 2195 01:35:43,720 --> 01:35:47,599 Speaker 3: general manager Nick Cassario. Next coming up later in the show, 2196 01:35:47,880 --> 01:35:49,920 Speaker 3: some stuff from Eric Murray We caught up with. 2197 01:35:49,880 --> 01:35:51,040 Speaker 1: The safety this week. 2198 01:35:51,080 --> 01:35:53,760 Speaker 3: How's he taken things as he's a veteran man, he's 2199 01:35:53,760 --> 01:35:55,360 Speaker 3: been in this league a long time now, how does 2200 01:35:55,400 --> 01:35:56,880 Speaker 3: he take care of his body? How does he get 2201 01:35:56,920 --> 01:35:59,960 Speaker 3: ready for a big outing like Sunday at the Jaguars. 2202 01:36:00,240 --> 01:36:04,120 Speaker 3: And also Matt Burke defensive coordinator, super interesting guy, and 2203 01:36:04,200 --> 01:36:06,400 Speaker 3: a lot more along the way, but let's get to it. 2204 01:36:06,479 --> 01:36:10,400 Speaker 3: Our conversation with Nick Cassario, starting off with what happened 2205 01:36:10,479 --> 01:36:13,040 Speaker 3: last week, Not so much let's move out to Jacksonville, 2206 01:36:13,080 --> 01:36:15,080 Speaker 3: but some things about the game that they have to 2207 01:36:15,120 --> 01:36:18,040 Speaker 3: remember and correct, of course, as they just came off 2208 01:36:18,080 --> 01:36:20,040 Speaker 3: a loss to the Tennessee Titans. 2209 01:36:20,200 --> 01:36:22,960 Speaker 10: Regardless of the result on this past Sunday, all we 2210 01:36:22,960 --> 01:36:25,120 Speaker 10: can do is prepare for what's in front of us, 2211 01:36:25,160 --> 01:36:26,920 Speaker 10: which is Jacksonville's hard to believe. We haven't playing the 2212 01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:31,040 Speaker 10: road since the opener with Indy, but played a good, 2213 01:36:31,080 --> 01:36:33,000 Speaker 10: you know, pretty good game they or the first time 2214 01:36:33,000 --> 01:36:35,320 Speaker 10: against Jacksonville kind of came down to the wire. We're 2215 01:36:35,320 --> 01:36:37,080 Speaker 10: able to execute the end of the game, So that 2216 01:36:37,200 --> 01:36:38,639 Speaker 10: was one of the games we were able to execute, 2217 01:36:38,720 --> 01:36:40,280 Speaker 10: you know, made some winning plays there at the end. 2218 01:36:40,439 --> 01:36:42,479 Speaker 10: So they're a good football team. We'll talk about them 2219 01:36:42,520 --> 01:36:44,439 Speaker 10: here in a minute. So you know, whatever happened is 2220 01:36:44,479 --> 01:36:46,680 Speaker 10: past Sunday. In the end, we didn't do enough to 2221 01:36:46,720 --> 01:36:49,000 Speaker 10: win the game against Tennessee. Give them credit. Now we've 2222 01:36:49,000 --> 01:36:51,080 Speaker 10: got to get ready for the next opportunity division, which 2223 01:36:51,120 --> 01:36:51,880 Speaker 10: is the Jaguars. 2224 01:36:52,040 --> 01:36:54,200 Speaker 2: Nick I always love when you have hard decisions to make, 2225 01:36:54,280 --> 01:36:57,439 Speaker 2: such as a guy like Tommy Togii. He's been on 2226 01:36:57,479 --> 01:36:59,760 Speaker 2: a practice squad, gauts his opportunity because these guys are 2227 01:36:59,760 --> 01:37:02,480 Speaker 2: banged up and he's doing the most with that opportunity. 2228 01:37:03,240 --> 01:37:04,880 Speaker 2: I don't want you to get into how tough the 2229 01:37:04,920 --> 01:37:07,800 Speaker 2: decision is, but with the fact that he's playing that, well, 2230 01:37:07,840 --> 01:37:09,680 Speaker 2: how tough does the decision become. When you have a 2231 01:37:09,680 --> 01:37:11,360 Speaker 2: guy playing like that, you really don't want to take 2232 01:37:11,400 --> 01:37:13,320 Speaker 2: him out of the lineup, even though he's a practice 2233 01:37:13,360 --> 01:37:13,840 Speaker 2: squad guy. 2234 01:37:14,000 --> 01:37:15,759 Speaker 9: Yeah, it's a good thing about our program. 2235 01:37:15,880 --> 01:37:17,680 Speaker 10: So regardless of where you come from or how you 2236 01:37:17,720 --> 01:37:19,479 Speaker 10: get here, when you get here, if you go in 2237 01:37:19,520 --> 01:37:21,960 Speaker 10: there take advantage of your opportunity, you potentially have a 2238 01:37:22,040 --> 01:37:23,920 Speaker 10: chance to earn more playing time. So we're kind of 2239 01:37:23,960 --> 01:37:27,080 Speaker 10: forced into a situation where with fully being out when 2240 01:37:27,120 --> 01:37:29,120 Speaker 10: he GEDs some reinforcements on the defensive line. I've been 2241 01:37:29,120 --> 01:37:30,960 Speaker 10: shuffling some guys back and forth. I had to deal 2242 01:37:31,000 --> 01:37:34,080 Speaker 10: with Mario situation kind of on and off. But Tommy's 2243 01:37:34,120 --> 01:37:36,720 Speaker 10: going in there and giving us some good plays. He 2244 01:37:36,800 --> 01:37:39,040 Speaker 10: showed up again there the other day in the game 2245 01:37:39,080 --> 01:37:41,960 Speaker 10: on Sunday. So experienced player has been in the league. 2246 01:37:41,960 --> 01:37:43,599 Speaker 10: I mean he was a fourth round pick or whatever 2247 01:37:43,600 --> 01:37:45,599 Speaker 10: he was by the Browns there going back. So it's 2248 01:37:45,640 --> 01:37:48,360 Speaker 10: kind of bounced around roster practice squad and was on 2249 01:37:48,400 --> 01:37:50,120 Speaker 10: our practice squad here for a little bit, still is 2250 01:37:50,120 --> 01:37:52,320 Speaker 10: on our practice squad. So we'll look at where we 2251 01:37:52,360 --> 01:37:54,240 Speaker 10: are roster wise going into the week and figure out 2252 01:37:54,240 --> 01:37:56,080 Speaker 10: what makes the most sense relative to you know, who 2253 01:37:56,080 --> 01:37:57,960 Speaker 10: gives us the best chance to win on Sunday. 2254 01:37:58,360 --> 01:37:59,960 Speaker 1: At the end of the day against Tennessee. 2255 01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:02,120 Speaker 3: You look at it, it's a loss, but you look 2256 01:38:02,120 --> 01:38:04,439 Speaker 3: at so many big plays that were made throughout the 2257 01:38:04,439 --> 01:38:05,840 Speaker 3: course of the game, a lot of things that you 2258 01:38:05,880 --> 01:38:07,400 Speaker 3: can build on moving forward. 2259 01:38:07,840 --> 01:38:09,799 Speaker 9: Yeah, that game is really emblematic of our season. 2260 01:38:09,880 --> 01:38:12,160 Speaker 10: So for their number of positives that took place in 2261 01:38:12,200 --> 01:38:14,920 Speaker 10: the game, but they're offset by the negatives. So we 2262 01:38:15,120 --> 01:38:16,600 Speaker 10: just have to figure out a way to maybe e 2263 01:38:16,640 --> 01:38:19,120 Speaker 10: eliminate some of those negative things that we can control, 2264 01:38:19,320 --> 01:38:22,000 Speaker 10: you know, penalties, the turnovers, those are things that we 2265 01:38:22,040 --> 01:38:25,000 Speaker 10: can control. So going into the game, you know, John 2266 01:38:25,000 --> 01:38:27,240 Speaker 10: and I we talked about what was some of the keys, 2267 01:38:27,280 --> 01:38:30,800 Speaker 10: and those kind of came to fruition. You know, in 2268 01:38:30,840 --> 01:38:33,160 Speaker 10: some senses that was good. In other senses it kind 2269 01:38:33,160 --> 01:38:36,120 Speaker 10: of was a negative. It'd say, the explosive plays on 2270 01:38:36,160 --> 01:38:38,200 Speaker 10: both sides of the ball, and we gave up. Anytime 2271 01:38:38,200 --> 01:38:40,840 Speaker 10: you have explosive plays, regardless of the side of the 2272 01:38:40,880 --> 01:38:43,640 Speaker 10: ball that you're on, it's likely going to increase the 2273 01:38:43,760 --> 01:38:46,599 Speaker 10: chances of scoring drives taking place. So even going back 2274 01:38:46,600 --> 01:38:49,439 Speaker 10: in the Jacksonville game, they hit some explosive plays. Brian Thomas, 2275 01:38:49,479 --> 01:38:51,840 Speaker 10: you know who we'll talk about here. So there's a 2276 01:38:51,920 --> 01:38:54,599 Speaker 10: number of positives, but it's kind of two steps forward, 2277 01:38:54,600 --> 01:38:57,400 Speaker 10: three steps back. So when you have those negative plays, 2278 01:38:57,400 --> 01:38:59,080 Speaker 10: we just have to figure out a way to eliminate 2279 01:38:59,120 --> 01:39:01,760 Speaker 10: those negative plays to put ourselves in the position where 2280 01:39:01,800 --> 01:39:03,639 Speaker 10: we can go ahead and finish the football game. 2281 01:39:03,800 --> 01:39:06,160 Speaker 2: Something Mark and I had talked about a while for 2282 01:39:06,200 --> 01:39:08,720 Speaker 2: a long time, but something that you brought up to 2283 01:39:08,720 --> 01:39:10,639 Speaker 2: the day and it really just resonates in my head, Nick, 2284 01:39:10,680 --> 01:39:12,920 Speaker 2: And that's first down production. You keep talking about first 2285 01:39:12,920 --> 01:39:15,360 Speaker 2: down production, first down production on both sides of the ball. 2286 01:39:16,280 --> 01:39:19,080 Speaker 1: How do you think that's gone both sides offense? 2287 01:39:19,160 --> 01:39:22,280 Speaker 2: Defensively, staying basically ahead of the sticks with good first 2288 01:39:22,280 --> 01:39:25,200 Speaker 2: down productions, whether it's two, three, four yards, getting the 2289 01:39:25,200 --> 01:39:27,080 Speaker 2: second and six can be a good thing. How do 2290 01:39:27,120 --> 01:39:29,120 Speaker 2: you think that first down production has been on both 2291 01:39:29,120 --> 01:39:29,679 Speaker 2: sides of the ball. 2292 01:39:29,800 --> 01:39:31,840 Speaker 10: Yeah, it's always a point emphasis and at times it 2293 01:39:31,840 --> 01:39:33,760 Speaker 10: has been pretty good and other times it hasn't been 2294 01:39:33,760 --> 01:39:36,920 Speaker 10: good enough. So offensively, you know when you have zero 2295 01:39:37,400 --> 01:39:40,160 Speaker 10: or negative yardage plays and you're in second and long 2296 01:39:40,360 --> 01:39:41,960 Speaker 10: and then you're just trying to get back on track 2297 01:39:41,960 --> 01:39:43,639 Speaker 10: there to put yourself and you know, I think we've 2298 01:39:43,680 --> 01:39:47,080 Speaker 10: had amongst the most third and longs in the league. 2299 01:39:47,080 --> 01:39:48,320 Speaker 9: However you categorize that. 2300 01:39:48,920 --> 01:39:52,160 Speaker 10: And then defensively, there's a couple examples there, and again 2301 01:39:52,200 --> 01:39:53,760 Speaker 10: the first play of the game, you know it's a 2302 01:39:53,800 --> 01:39:56,360 Speaker 10: situation where they run a keeper. You know, we kind 2303 01:39:56,360 --> 01:39:58,439 Speaker 10: of have an assignment that we didn't execute and they 2304 01:39:58,479 --> 01:40:00,760 Speaker 10: were able to create a showing play and then to 2305 01:40:00,800 --> 01:40:03,639 Speaker 10: play the chig. The winning touchdown was a first down play. 2306 01:40:03,680 --> 01:40:05,120 Speaker 10: It was the start of the drive. So those are 2307 01:40:05,120 --> 01:40:06,800 Speaker 10: always key plays. You want to try to get off 2308 01:40:06,840 --> 01:40:09,599 Speaker 10: to a good start those p and ten plays, So 2309 01:40:10,040 --> 01:40:11,760 Speaker 10: it's always a point of emphasis. And when you go 2310 01:40:11,800 --> 01:40:13,680 Speaker 10: through the league, it's funny, I was looking at that 2311 01:40:13,760 --> 01:40:15,800 Speaker 10: the other day. Here, you know the teams at they're 2312 01:40:15,840 --> 01:40:17,920 Speaker 10: top of the league in first down production or some 2313 01:40:17,960 --> 01:40:19,360 Speaker 10: of the better teams that we're kind of in the 2314 01:40:19,400 --> 01:40:24,080 Speaker 10: middle to the bottom. So it's about making incremental improvements 2315 01:40:24,120 --> 01:40:26,680 Speaker 10: in some areas. So I think first down production is 2316 01:40:26,680 --> 01:40:28,640 Speaker 10: going to enhance your overall ability once you get to 2317 01:40:28,680 --> 01:40:29,080 Speaker 10: third down. 2318 01:40:29,120 --> 01:40:30,920 Speaker 9: So it's all tied together in the end. 2319 01:40:31,160 --> 01:40:33,400 Speaker 3: Nick, why is it so hard? Just tell the audience 2320 01:40:33,400 --> 01:40:35,479 Speaker 3: why is it so hard on special teams? Because I 2321 01:40:35,520 --> 01:40:37,960 Speaker 3: watch tons of football, we all do, and every time 2322 01:40:37,960 --> 01:40:39,559 Speaker 3: there's a punt, I'm holding my breath. 2323 01:40:39,600 --> 01:40:41,280 Speaker 1: No flags, because you. 2324 01:40:41,240 --> 01:40:43,160 Speaker 3: Get this illegal block and the back kind of thing 2325 01:40:43,240 --> 01:40:45,280 Speaker 3: going on, and it happens to a lot of teams 2326 01:40:45,360 --> 01:40:47,240 Speaker 3: all across the league and beyond. 2327 01:40:47,520 --> 01:40:48,559 Speaker 1: Why is that difficult? 2328 01:40:48,680 --> 01:40:49,719 Speaker 9: Yeah, typically you've seen. 2329 01:40:49,680 --> 01:40:52,280 Speaker 10: The perimeter with the gunners, and a lot of times 2330 01:40:52,280 --> 01:40:55,280 Speaker 10: the gunners there's a speed element, so if they defeat 2331 01:40:55,320 --> 01:40:58,400 Speaker 10: the vice or the block, you know, on the right 2332 01:40:58,400 --> 01:41:00,400 Speaker 10: off the line of scrimmage, then you're sort of in 2333 01:41:00,400 --> 01:41:03,360 Speaker 10: a catchup mode. Or if you don't move your feet 2334 01:41:03,479 --> 01:41:05,479 Speaker 10: laterally and stay in front of the gunner, now the 2335 01:41:05,520 --> 01:41:07,679 Speaker 10: gunners are trying to release, they got to either release 2336 01:41:07,680 --> 01:41:10,240 Speaker 10: outside or if there's advice, got to split them or 2337 01:41:10,320 --> 01:41:11,200 Speaker 10: go inside. 2338 01:41:11,439 --> 01:41:14,040 Speaker 9: And if you don't play with the right technique. 2339 01:41:13,600 --> 01:41:16,719 Speaker 10: Then you're in a position where you're grabbing or you're holding, 2340 01:41:16,840 --> 01:41:18,800 Speaker 10: or you're not just playing with the proper technique. So 2341 01:41:19,360 --> 01:41:22,400 Speaker 10: a lot of plays go back to basic fundamentals hand placement, 2342 01:41:22,439 --> 01:41:25,680 Speaker 10: foot placement technique, running your feet on contact, even on 2343 01:41:25,720 --> 01:41:27,679 Speaker 10: the offensive side of the ball. A lot of holding 2344 01:41:27,720 --> 01:41:30,560 Speaker 10: penalties or when guys end up outside of the framework 2345 01:41:30,840 --> 01:41:33,120 Speaker 10: because their hands are too wide or they don't run 2346 01:41:33,160 --> 01:41:35,040 Speaker 10: their feet on contact, so they're in a good initial 2347 01:41:35,040 --> 01:41:39,000 Speaker 10: position and defender tries to x off and then they flail, 2348 01:41:39,280 --> 01:41:41,880 Speaker 10: or they grab them or you pull them down. So 2349 01:41:42,560 --> 01:41:44,599 Speaker 10: it's just things happen at a high rate of speed, 2350 01:41:44,640 --> 01:41:46,200 Speaker 10: so you have to be able to react. So that's 2351 01:41:46,200 --> 01:41:48,240 Speaker 10: where you have to trust your technique. And if you're 2352 01:41:48,280 --> 01:41:51,519 Speaker 10: out there, specifically on the punt return team going against Avice, 2353 01:41:52,200 --> 01:41:55,559 Speaker 10: you have to hope that your teammate that's involved is 2354 01:41:55,600 --> 01:41:58,240 Speaker 10: also going to execute the technique the proper way. So 2355 01:41:59,160 --> 01:42:01,360 Speaker 10: you just see a lot of ain't even on kickoff return. 2356 01:42:01,640 --> 01:42:04,759 Speaker 10: So even though we've reduced a space because of the rules, 2357 01:42:05,439 --> 01:42:08,040 Speaker 10: so you go, you defeat that initial block, you're either 2358 01:42:08,040 --> 01:42:09,840 Speaker 10: inn catch up mode and you're out a position. Then 2359 01:42:09,840 --> 01:42:11,840 Speaker 10: it's gonna lead to potentially a negative play. 2360 01:42:11,960 --> 01:42:15,920 Speaker 2: Speaking of kickoff returns, Damian Pierce has given us kickoff 2361 01:42:15,960 --> 01:42:18,920 Speaker 2: returns the old way the new way, Nick, what are 2362 01:42:18,920 --> 01:42:21,400 Speaker 2: your thoughts about him back there, because we've talked about 2363 01:42:21,400 --> 01:42:23,719 Speaker 2: it on the broadcast, that he might be the perfect 2364 01:42:23,720 --> 01:42:27,200 Speaker 2: guy because he is such a difficult guy to tackle 2365 01:42:27,680 --> 01:42:29,280 Speaker 2: that if you don't get a good shot on him, 2366 01:42:29,280 --> 01:42:30,519 Speaker 2: he can bounce off and do what he did the 2367 01:42:30,600 --> 01:42:33,320 Speaker 2: other day. Her thoughts about Damian being a kickoff returner 2368 01:42:33,360 --> 01:42:35,120 Speaker 2: or maybe finding a really good role for him. 2369 01:42:35,200 --> 01:42:37,080 Speaker 10: Yeah, he's really done a great job with this opportunity. 2370 01:42:37,120 --> 01:42:38,400 Speaker 10: You can go back to last year, like alluded to 2371 01:42:38,439 --> 01:42:40,960 Speaker 10: you at the kickoff return against Cleveland. So if a 2372 01:42:40,960 --> 01:42:43,440 Speaker 10: guy is good with the ball in his hands, sometimes 2373 01:42:43,439 --> 01:42:45,120 Speaker 10: you may just try him back there to see if 2374 01:42:45,120 --> 01:42:47,439 Speaker 10: he can handle it. And on kickoff returns typically there's 2375 01:42:47,479 --> 01:42:50,400 Speaker 10: gonna be some traffic element or traffic running where you're 2376 01:42:50,400 --> 01:42:52,120 Speaker 10: gonna have to deal with some contact. So a guy 2377 01:42:52,160 --> 01:42:54,680 Speaker 10: that has balance, a guy that has strength, a guy 2378 01:42:54,720 --> 01:42:58,000 Speaker 10: that can break tackles. Not all running backs can handle 2379 01:42:58,000 --> 01:43:01,080 Speaker 10: that role of responsibility. Going back to my time in 2380 01:43:01,120 --> 01:43:03,439 Speaker 10: New England, you know, we put Brandon Bolden back there, 2381 01:43:03,520 --> 01:43:06,320 Speaker 10: who had never handled the ball as a kickoff returner, 2382 01:43:06,360 --> 01:43:08,320 Speaker 10: but he had good size, he could handle the ball, 2383 01:43:08,640 --> 01:43:10,720 Speaker 10: had a good running style and he was able to 2384 01:43:10,760 --> 01:43:12,920 Speaker 10: get some positive plays. So you've had guys like Boldin, 2385 01:43:12,960 --> 01:43:15,360 Speaker 10: We've had guys like Dan Lewis, you know who is 2386 01:43:15,400 --> 01:43:19,960 Speaker 10: it different? He gets size than guys like Brandon or DP. 2387 01:43:20,200 --> 01:43:22,960 Speaker 10: But dp's done a really good job and it really 2388 01:43:23,040 --> 01:43:25,040 Speaker 10: you have to have a sensor of feel for space. 2389 01:43:25,320 --> 01:43:27,040 Speaker 10: And then the play that he made the other day 2390 01:43:27,200 --> 01:43:28,840 Speaker 10: was really more just he was able to stay on 2391 01:43:28,880 --> 01:43:31,040 Speaker 10: his feet, keep his balance and then he was able 2392 01:43:31,040 --> 01:43:32,840 Speaker 10: to kind of bounce it outside and then Hutch and 2393 01:43:33,560 --> 01:43:36,559 Speaker 10: Boyd were actually able to finish their block. So but 2394 01:43:36,640 --> 01:43:39,639 Speaker 10: we've gotten some explosive plays on kickoff returns, no question, 2395 01:43:39,760 --> 01:43:41,880 Speaker 10: and dp's done a good job with those opportunities. 2396 01:43:42,080 --> 01:43:43,519 Speaker 3: We know you want to move the ball better in 2397 01:43:43,560 --> 01:43:45,920 Speaker 3: the second half, that's clear, and CJ Stroud after the 2398 01:43:45,960 --> 01:43:48,719 Speaker 3: game taking a lot of things upon himself, taking blame 2399 01:43:48,840 --> 01:43:49,360 Speaker 3: for stuff. 2400 01:43:49,720 --> 01:43:50,720 Speaker 1: What do you make of that? 2401 01:43:50,880 --> 01:43:52,960 Speaker 3: And the unit as a whole is they try to 2402 01:43:53,000 --> 01:43:55,719 Speaker 3: improve moving into these final five games of the regular season. 2403 01:43:56,000 --> 01:43:59,240 Speaker 10: Yeah, players and coaches likewise, sometimes you internalize things and 2404 01:43:59,280 --> 01:44:01,200 Speaker 10: you put everything on your shoulders. But in the end, 2405 01:44:01,200 --> 01:44:03,240 Speaker 10: it's not about one person or one player. It's a 2406 01:44:03,240 --> 01:44:05,600 Speaker 10: collective effort. So I think all of us just have 2407 01:44:05,640 --> 01:44:08,720 Speaker 10: to do our jobs a little bit better. Quarterback is 2408 01:44:08,760 --> 01:44:11,640 Speaker 10: going to take responsibility, probably gets his share of the 2409 01:44:11,640 --> 01:44:13,360 Speaker 10: blame on both sides of it because of the nature 2410 01:44:13,360 --> 01:44:16,400 Speaker 10: of the position. But CJ cares a lot. He's very competitive. 2411 01:44:16,520 --> 01:44:18,360 Speaker 10: He wants to do the right thing by the football 2412 01:44:18,400 --> 01:44:20,760 Speaker 10: team at all times. So in the end, we just 2413 01:44:20,800 --> 01:44:22,400 Speaker 10: got to come up with some solutions, just try to 2414 01:44:22,439 --> 01:44:25,360 Speaker 10: find some things that we can incorporate or improve upon 2415 01:44:25,960 --> 01:44:28,000 Speaker 10: and put ourselves in a better position in a second 2416 01:44:28,000 --> 01:44:29,680 Speaker 10: a half. It's really more as a team, not one 2417 01:44:29,680 --> 01:44:33,040 Speaker 10: particular position, one side of the ball. It's just collectively 2418 01:44:32,360 --> 01:44:34,080 Speaker 10: as an entire group. 2419 01:44:34,080 --> 01:44:35,439 Speaker 5: Because but that one behind us. 2420 01:44:35,520 --> 01:44:39,360 Speaker 2: We talked to Demiko on Monday and talked about twenty 2421 01:44:39,360 --> 01:44:41,920 Speaker 2: four hour reels. Sometimes twenty four hour rule extends, but 2422 01:44:42,040 --> 01:44:45,160 Speaker 2: he talked about wanting to really not forget this game 2423 01:44:45,280 --> 01:44:48,200 Speaker 2: as you get ready for this one against Jacksonville. We 2424 01:44:48,280 --> 01:44:50,160 Speaker 2: go on the road Nick to take on the Jaguars 2425 01:44:50,320 --> 01:44:53,200 Speaker 2: place we've had success, but really doesn't matter because it's 2426 01:44:53,240 --> 01:44:56,840 Speaker 2: this one. Let's get into what's different about them? What 2427 01:44:56,880 --> 01:44:59,600 Speaker 2: are they bringing to the party. Trevor Or mac Or 2428 01:44:59,640 --> 01:45:02,479 Speaker 2: does it thoughts on the Jaguars Discovery report. 2429 01:45:02,560 --> 01:45:04,439 Speaker 10: Yeah, it's an interesting team when you look at it, 2430 01:45:04,439 --> 01:45:06,280 Speaker 10: and going back we played on whatever that was Week 2431 01:45:06,320 --> 01:45:07,840 Speaker 10: four or five, so it's kind of in the middle. 2432 01:45:08,760 --> 01:45:11,040 Speaker 10: A lot of the things carry over, but they've had 2433 01:45:11,080 --> 01:45:13,519 Speaker 10: some injuries and had some things that have affected who's 2434 01:45:13,560 --> 01:45:16,440 Speaker 10: actually on the field. The one thing that's been consistent 2435 01:45:16,560 --> 01:45:19,519 Speaker 10: defensively is their front. Their front's probably the strength of 2436 01:45:19,640 --> 01:45:22,160 Speaker 10: their team on that side of the ball. And I'd 2437 01:45:22,200 --> 01:45:24,360 Speaker 10: say the one guy that's really elevated his level of 2438 01:45:24,360 --> 01:45:27,280 Speaker 10: play has been Hamilton, so kind of started slow, but 2439 01:45:27,400 --> 01:45:29,759 Speaker 10: provides a really good presence on the interior. Their defense, 2440 01:45:29,800 --> 01:45:32,479 Speaker 10: really good run player and two players on the edge. 2441 01:45:32,560 --> 01:45:35,040 Speaker 10: I mean, they've been as good as any edge combination. 2442 01:45:35,200 --> 01:45:35,479 Speaker 1: League. 2443 01:45:35,479 --> 01:45:38,439 Speaker 10: Walker has improved and gotten better, and heinz Allen is 2444 01:45:38,479 --> 01:45:40,720 Speaker 10: just a good football player who pretty much plays well 2445 01:45:40,720 --> 01:45:43,320 Speaker 10: every week. So strength of their defenses. In the front, 2446 01:45:43,680 --> 01:45:46,920 Speaker 10: they've had a little bit of turnover at linebacker. The 2447 01:45:46,960 --> 01:45:49,880 Speaker 10: biggest difference or biggest change is Miller has assumed a 2448 01:45:49,920 --> 01:45:52,760 Speaker 10: little bit more responsibilities, even with Olacon kind of being 2449 01:45:52,960 --> 01:45:55,720 Speaker 10: back or in and out. But Miller's emerged as one 2450 01:45:55,760 --> 01:45:58,000 Speaker 10: of their leading tacklers. I think he's third or fourth, 2451 01:45:58,080 --> 01:46:01,160 Speaker 10: and he's played really well. He's fast, he's off, he's instinctive. 2452 01:46:01,240 --> 01:46:04,320 Speaker 10: So they really have three for two a linebacker with Olacon, 2453 01:46:04,400 --> 01:46:08,160 Speaker 10: Lloyd and then now and now Miller. In the secondary, 2454 01:46:08,160 --> 01:46:10,880 Speaker 10: they got Campbell back and you know, so that's a 2455 01:46:10,880 --> 01:46:13,040 Speaker 10: player they didn't have earlier in the season who's a 2456 01:46:13,040 --> 01:46:16,280 Speaker 10: good young corner. Darby's been pretty consistent on a perimeter 2457 01:46:16,720 --> 01:46:18,479 Speaker 10: and then at nicol If kind of had some guys 2458 01:46:18,520 --> 01:46:20,320 Speaker 10: in and out. It really looks like they kind of 2459 01:46:20,360 --> 01:46:23,519 Speaker 10: said a on Jones, the rookie there, and then Cisco 2460 01:46:23,760 --> 01:46:26,280 Speaker 10: in safety was kind of moved Savage back to safety. 2461 01:46:26,360 --> 01:46:29,800 Speaker 10: So a lot of good individual players. They've played well 2462 01:46:29,800 --> 01:46:31,960 Speaker 10: in Spurts. I mean, they played well against Minnesota, I 2463 01:46:32,000 --> 01:46:34,719 Speaker 10: mean held them the thirteen points, had three turnovers, whatever 2464 01:46:34,760 --> 01:46:37,519 Speaker 10: it was. So they present some challenges on the defensive 2465 01:46:37,520 --> 01:46:40,400 Speaker 10: side of ball and offensively again to your point, you know, 2466 01:46:40,479 --> 01:46:42,280 Speaker 10: Max had to play the last couple of games. We'll 2467 01:46:42,280 --> 01:46:45,080 Speaker 10: see where they are with Trevor. But the key to 2468 01:46:45,120 --> 01:46:47,360 Speaker 10: you know, at least on the perimeter with some of 2469 01:46:47,360 --> 01:46:49,960 Speaker 10: the receiver kirks out and gave Davis's out. But Thomas 2470 01:46:50,000 --> 01:46:52,000 Speaker 10: has emerged is really one of the better young receivers 2471 01:46:52,040 --> 01:46:54,960 Speaker 10: in the League's big he's strong, he's fast. They made 2472 01:46:55,000 --> 01:46:57,599 Speaker 10: a number of explosive plays and in the first game 2473 01:46:57,600 --> 01:46:59,760 Speaker 10: we had a hard time covering him, and they've kind 2474 01:46:59,760 --> 01:47:01,599 Speaker 10: of you the tight ends. A little bit more strange 2475 01:47:01,680 --> 01:47:03,760 Speaker 10: is his role has kind of emerged. They've used a 2476 01:47:03,760 --> 01:47:06,840 Speaker 10: little bit more twelve than thirteen person out offset the 2477 01:47:06,880 --> 01:47:09,880 Speaker 10: e love and personnelity has some losses and then Bigsby's 2478 01:47:09,960 --> 01:47:11,840 Speaker 10: kind of taken on a little bit more of the 2479 01:47:11,880 --> 01:47:14,280 Speaker 10: heavy lifting there another you know, the long run there 2480 01:47:14,320 --> 01:47:16,080 Speaker 10: against us, you know where we knock them out of 2481 01:47:16,160 --> 01:47:18,280 Speaker 10: the two and we're able to stop them on fourth down, 2482 01:47:18,320 --> 01:47:20,960 Speaker 10: which is to keep playing the game. So certainly presents 2483 01:47:20,960 --> 01:47:22,920 Speaker 10: some challenges on both sides of the ball, and it's 2484 01:47:22,920 --> 01:47:25,400 Speaker 10: a good kicking game unit as well. So let's say, 2485 01:47:25,439 --> 01:47:29,080 Speaker 10: like most teams, you go into it like they've played 2486 01:47:29,120 --> 01:47:32,080 Speaker 10: well at different points their record is I'm sure they 2487 01:47:32,080 --> 01:47:34,160 Speaker 10: hope their record is a little bit better. But by 2488 01:47:34,200 --> 01:47:36,640 Speaker 10: the same token, we understand the challenges of playing this 2489 01:47:36,680 --> 01:47:39,800 Speaker 10: particular team and playing on the road. So bottom line 2490 01:47:39,840 --> 01:47:41,880 Speaker 10: is we're just going to play good football and we'll 2491 01:47:41,960 --> 01:47:44,360 Speaker 10: have to prepare to play a good Jacksonville team well. 2492 01:47:44,400 --> 01:47:46,840 Speaker 3: And the things we have no control over department, the 2493 01:47:46,880 --> 01:47:50,240 Speaker 3: buy doesn't come until after this game Jacksonville coming off 2494 01:47:50,280 --> 01:47:53,400 Speaker 3: of buy. Historically, what does your data say about teams 2495 01:47:53,439 --> 01:47:55,840 Speaker 3: coming off of bye They tend to do this and 2496 01:47:56,080 --> 01:47:58,360 Speaker 3: they work on that. Is it different? Do they come 2497 01:47:58,360 --> 01:48:00,719 Speaker 3: out with more rest and maybe rushed? 2498 01:48:00,760 --> 01:48:01,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. 2499 01:48:01,960 --> 01:48:03,960 Speaker 10: It worked both ways. I think the big thing you're 2500 01:48:04,040 --> 01:48:07,080 Speaker 10: just probably a little bit recovered physically. You're probably in 2501 01:48:07,120 --> 01:48:08,920 Speaker 10: a better position because you haven't had to go through 2502 01:48:08,920 --> 01:48:11,559 Speaker 10: the rigors of the previous game. And then typically what 2503 01:48:11,600 --> 01:48:13,720 Speaker 10: most teams will do is just go back and figure out, 2504 01:48:13,760 --> 01:48:15,280 Speaker 10: all right, what are some things that we might be 2505 01:48:15,280 --> 01:48:17,479 Speaker 10: able to incorporate a little bit more or maybe make 2506 01:48:17,560 --> 01:48:20,599 Speaker 10: some subtle modific cases and adjustments. Even when we get 2507 01:48:20,600 --> 01:48:22,040 Speaker 10: to the bye week, it's not going to be like 2508 01:48:22,120 --> 01:48:25,120 Speaker 10: you're going to have a wholesale change of offensive schematics 2509 01:48:25,240 --> 01:48:27,519 Speaker 10: or you know, maybe you have a few wrinkles or 2510 01:48:27,520 --> 01:48:29,600 Speaker 10: have a few complimentary things off of some of the 2511 01:48:29,640 --> 01:48:31,600 Speaker 10: things that you do well. So each team is a 2512 01:48:31,600 --> 01:48:33,360 Speaker 10: little bit different how they handle the buye week, but 2513 01:48:33,680 --> 01:48:35,599 Speaker 10: the expectation is that they're going to be fresh, they're 2514 01:48:35,600 --> 01:48:37,639 Speaker 10: going to be prepared, and we're ready to go. They're 2515 01:48:37,640 --> 01:48:39,720 Speaker 10: playing at home, you know, there's going to be a 2516 01:48:39,720 --> 01:48:41,360 Speaker 10: lot of energy there, so we're just going to be 2517 01:48:41,400 --> 01:48:43,360 Speaker 10: ready to match their energy and be prepared and just 2518 01:48:43,439 --> 01:48:46,160 Speaker 10: study the team, study what they've done here over the 2519 01:48:46,200 --> 01:48:48,920 Speaker 10: last how many weeks before the buye, and then prepare 2520 01:48:49,000 --> 01:48:51,400 Speaker 10: for I would say those things, and it goes back 2521 01:48:51,439 --> 01:48:53,479 Speaker 10: to schematically, there's probably not going to be a lot 2522 01:48:53,520 --> 01:48:55,719 Speaker 10: of change. Then it's going to go back to understanding 2523 01:48:55,720 --> 01:48:57,800 Speaker 10: the personnel. Understanding some of the changes that they made 2524 01:48:57,840 --> 01:48:59,680 Speaker 10: from a personnel standpoint one are. 2525 01:48:59,600 --> 01:49:01,679 Speaker 2: The things that struck me. You were talking to Sean 2526 01:49:01,680 --> 01:49:07,160 Speaker 2: at SETH last week. Your recall is really good. You 2527 01:49:07,200 --> 01:49:08,880 Speaker 2: talked about the game with Randy Moss where he had 2528 01:49:08,920 --> 01:49:10,840 Speaker 2: one catch for fourteen yards, but it was just that 2529 01:49:10,920 --> 01:49:12,880 Speaker 2: was what we had to play that game, and you know, 2530 01:49:12,880 --> 01:49:16,320 Speaker 2: in a year and Moss was incredible. When you're thinking 2531 01:49:16,320 --> 01:49:18,280 Speaker 2: of Marion Thomas, you're not comparing to Moss, but just 2532 01:49:18,320 --> 01:49:21,519 Speaker 2: your recall, does he remind you of anybody? And as 2533 01:49:21,520 --> 01:49:25,960 Speaker 2: you're going through your draft assessment, as you want to 2534 01:49:26,000 --> 01:49:28,640 Speaker 2: face Brian Thomas, do you think about you know, that 2535 01:49:28,640 --> 01:49:31,360 Speaker 2: guy reminds me of this guy? And you know, against 2536 01:49:31,360 --> 01:49:34,160 Speaker 2: this guy, we did these different things that were successful 2537 01:49:34,160 --> 01:49:34,800 Speaker 2: against him. 2538 01:49:35,000 --> 01:49:37,400 Speaker 1: Do you does your recall kind of take you there 2539 01:49:37,400 --> 01:49:38,479 Speaker 1: when you look at a guy like him. 2540 01:49:38,640 --> 01:49:39,840 Speaker 9: No, it's a good question, John. 2541 01:49:40,000 --> 01:49:42,320 Speaker 10: You maybe have a reference point, but you kind of 2542 01:49:42,360 --> 01:49:44,880 Speaker 10: have to treat each player sure as their own entity 2543 01:49:44,920 --> 01:49:48,040 Speaker 10: and just understand their strengths, understand maybe some of the 2544 01:49:48,080 --> 01:49:51,240 Speaker 10: things that they may need to improve, and you got 2545 01:49:51,240 --> 01:49:53,679 Speaker 10: to be careful of making some comparisons. I think there's 2546 01:49:53,720 --> 01:49:57,800 Speaker 10: a natural tendency each year player comes on a draft, Okay, 2547 01:49:57,800 --> 01:49:59,080 Speaker 10: this guy is like so and so. 2548 01:49:59,600 --> 01:50:03,160 Speaker 9: Well, well he might be, but he really isn't. 2549 01:50:03,200 --> 01:50:06,559 Speaker 10: So I would say in Brian's case, he's big, he's fast, 2550 01:50:06,640 --> 01:50:09,360 Speaker 10: he has real good speed for his size, and he's 2551 01:50:09,479 --> 01:50:13,200 Speaker 10: faster than maybe you think he appears, but he's moving, 2552 01:50:13,800 --> 01:50:16,120 Speaker 10: so I mean he has a good, really good skill set. 2553 01:50:16,320 --> 01:50:17,800 Speaker 10: I mean when you go back and look at the 2554 01:50:17,880 --> 01:50:21,559 Speaker 10: LSUE receivers from last year, you're watching neighbors, you're watching 2555 01:50:21,600 --> 01:50:25,519 Speaker 10: Thomas Lacey's in a draft. This year, Mason Taylor is 2556 01:50:25,520 --> 01:50:27,639 Speaker 10: probably going to be in the draft. So you're always 2557 01:50:27,680 --> 01:50:30,360 Speaker 10: kind of looking at everything, but you're really studying that 2558 01:50:30,400 --> 01:50:33,240 Speaker 10: particular player and focusing on what he does well. And 2559 01:50:33,280 --> 01:50:35,040 Speaker 10: you just have to be careful of making just too 2560 01:50:35,040 --> 01:50:38,160 Speaker 10: many extrapolations about this player and he's like so and so, 2561 01:50:38,200 --> 01:50:40,759 Speaker 10: because every player in the end is their own entity. 2562 01:50:41,000 --> 01:50:43,360 Speaker 3: I wanted to ask you about penalties because the NFL, 2563 01:50:43,400 --> 01:50:46,600 Speaker 3: there's a human element here. You have players, you have officiating, 2564 01:50:46,840 --> 01:50:49,720 Speaker 3: you have all of it factoring in, right, So how 2565 01:50:49,720 --> 01:50:52,640 Speaker 3: do you get better at that? Because some penalties have 2566 01:50:52,680 --> 01:50:54,960 Speaker 3: to be about playing aggressively and maybe you take it 2567 01:50:54,960 --> 01:50:55,320 Speaker 3: too far. 2568 01:50:55,439 --> 01:50:57,599 Speaker 1: Others are mental mistakes. How do you see it? Nick? 2569 01:50:57,760 --> 01:51:00,160 Speaker 10: Yeah, as we all know, there's a little bit of 2570 01:51:00,200 --> 01:51:03,000 Speaker 10: a subject development when it comes to officiating. It's a 2571 01:51:03,080 --> 01:51:06,160 Speaker 10: very hard job, so we can't it's just it's difficult 2572 01:51:06,240 --> 01:51:09,360 Speaker 10: and each crew maybe looks at the game or calls 2573 01:51:09,400 --> 01:51:12,200 Speaker 10: the game a little bit differently, which that's just the 2574 01:51:12,240 --> 01:51:13,840 Speaker 10: reality of it. So what we have to do is 2575 01:51:13,880 --> 01:51:17,920 Speaker 10: just understand the crew. What's their tendency, how do they 2576 01:51:17,960 --> 01:51:20,280 Speaker 10: call the calls that are obvious false start some of 2577 01:51:20,320 --> 01:51:22,599 Speaker 10: those penalties, I mean, like anybody, I mean, the three 2578 01:51:22,600 --> 01:51:24,360 Speaker 10: of us can figure those out. It's some of the 2579 01:51:24,360 --> 01:51:26,080 Speaker 10: other ones that are a little bit more subjective. So 2580 01:51:26,120 --> 01:51:28,400 Speaker 10: we ultimately can't control what the officials are going to do. 2581 01:51:29,080 --> 01:51:32,200 Speaker 10: All we can do is play within the rules, understand that, 2582 01:51:32,360 --> 01:51:34,040 Speaker 10: you know, we got to play with a certain technique 2583 01:51:34,160 --> 01:51:36,479 Speaker 10: and each crew is going to maybe call a little 2584 01:51:36,479 --> 01:51:39,320 Speaker 10: bit differently, So I mean, we got to be careful about, 2585 01:51:39,360 --> 01:51:41,479 Speaker 10: you know, making too many comments about the officials and 2586 01:51:41,479 --> 01:51:42,600 Speaker 10: what we think of it, because in the end, it 2587 01:51:42,600 --> 01:51:44,680 Speaker 10: doesn't really matter what we think. All we can do 2588 01:51:44,760 --> 01:51:46,320 Speaker 10: is go out there and play and execute the right 2589 01:51:46,360 --> 01:51:49,040 Speaker 10: way within the rules, and understand maybe how the crew 2590 01:51:49,080 --> 01:51:49,840 Speaker 10: is going to call the game. 2591 01:51:49,960 --> 01:51:52,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, you can leave the comments to us. We'll we'll 2592 01:51:52,200 --> 01:51:53,000 Speaker 1: leave you out of that. 2593 01:51:53,840 --> 01:51:56,519 Speaker 2: Nick, as Mark was asking a question about the Jaguars 2594 01:51:56,520 --> 01:51:58,720 Speaker 2: coming off of by us going into the buy, I 2595 01:51:58,760 --> 01:52:01,960 Speaker 2: kept thinking about this is our latest buye we've ever had, 2596 01:52:01,960 --> 01:52:04,080 Speaker 2: and I know that's next week, but this is that 2597 01:52:04,160 --> 01:52:07,920 Speaker 2: last game before bye. Do you guys take away? I mean, 2598 01:52:07,960 --> 01:52:10,120 Speaker 2: that's what this is gonna be. Thirteen games in row. 2599 01:52:10,520 --> 01:52:12,280 Speaker 2: I don't know how many teams play thirteen games in 2600 01:52:12,280 --> 01:52:14,080 Speaker 2: a row. Do you take a look at the analytics 2601 01:52:14,080 --> 01:52:16,920 Speaker 2: and look at whether you know players are showing some 2602 01:52:16,960 --> 01:52:18,840 Speaker 2: wear and tear and kind of how do you do 2603 01:52:18,880 --> 01:52:20,240 Speaker 2: you build that in at all? 2604 01:52:20,560 --> 01:52:22,360 Speaker 1: Or do you treat it as a normal week. 2605 01:52:22,560 --> 01:52:24,280 Speaker 2: Do you kind of look at it because it is 2606 01:52:24,360 --> 01:52:26,479 Speaker 2: the thirteenth game of thirteen in a row. How do 2607 01:52:26,520 --> 01:52:28,280 Speaker 2: you kind of look at that as you go into 2608 01:52:28,479 --> 01:52:30,439 Speaker 2: the last week before bye playing so many games in 2609 01:52:30,400 --> 01:52:30,680 Speaker 2: a row. 2610 01:52:30,800 --> 01:52:33,000 Speaker 10: No, it's an interesting idea. We're tracking everything during the 2611 01:52:33,000 --> 01:52:35,479 Speaker 10: course of season. So each practice we go out there, 2612 01:52:35,560 --> 01:52:39,000 Speaker 10: we're measuring their loads high speed running. Where our players 2613 01:52:39,080 --> 01:52:40,880 Speaker 10: maybe some a little bit more tax and others are 2614 01:52:40,880 --> 01:52:43,080 Speaker 10: just certain players we have to manage. Are there certain 2615 01:52:43,080 --> 01:52:44,959 Speaker 10: players we have to be able to lighter on Wednesday 2616 01:52:45,080 --> 01:52:47,439 Speaker 10: and then give them a higher load Thursday, and then Friday, 2617 01:52:47,600 --> 01:52:49,840 Speaker 10: you know, you pull back, so you rely on your 2618 01:52:49,880 --> 01:52:54,080 Speaker 10: internal information and ultimately I think the mindset this week 2619 01:52:54,160 --> 01:52:56,920 Speaker 10: is put everything we have to and can into this 2620 01:52:56,960 --> 01:52:59,040 Speaker 10: game because it's the most important game on the schedule. 2621 01:52:59,560 --> 01:53:01,400 Speaker 9: Then worry about the buy next week. 2622 01:53:01,439 --> 01:53:03,680 Speaker 10: And then typically when you come back, you have to 2623 01:53:03,680 --> 01:53:05,839 Speaker 10: figure out what makes the most sense on that Monday, 2624 01:53:06,680 --> 01:53:09,000 Speaker 10: because you have an extra day, so you want to 2625 01:53:09,040 --> 01:53:11,800 Speaker 10: make sure the players are still rested, recovered, fresh, so 2626 01:53:11,840 --> 01:53:14,200 Speaker 10: you don't want to overdo it Monday, and then you're 2627 01:53:14,240 --> 01:53:16,439 Speaker 10: off and you go multiple days, so you have to 2628 01:53:16,439 --> 01:53:18,559 Speaker 10: figure out schedule the wise, what makes the most sense, 2629 01:53:19,000 --> 01:53:20,960 Speaker 10: not to get too far ahead, but once you get 2630 01:53:21,000 --> 01:53:23,880 Speaker 10: past the buy, the schedule I would say has some 2631 01:53:24,000 --> 01:53:26,400 Speaker 10: nuances that we haven't had in the past, but we 2632 01:53:26,479 --> 01:53:29,240 Speaker 10: have some experience because of the way the schedule had been. 2633 01:53:29,160 --> 01:53:29,799 Speaker 9: Set up earlier. 2634 01:53:29,880 --> 01:53:32,120 Speaker 10: So you try to modify and it just as we 2635 01:53:32,120 --> 01:53:33,720 Speaker 10: go to Miko does a great job and kind of 2636 01:53:33,720 --> 01:53:35,719 Speaker 10: having a pulse of where the team is and taking 2637 01:53:35,720 --> 01:53:38,720 Speaker 10: the information, and you want to make sure physically the 2638 01:53:38,720 --> 01:53:41,040 Speaker 10: players are in a position where they go out there 2639 01:53:41,040 --> 01:53:43,320 Speaker 10: and perform an optimal level on Sunday or Monday or 2640 01:53:43,320 --> 01:53:43,920 Speaker 10: whenever we play. 2641 01:53:44,040 --> 01:53:45,639 Speaker 3: I think I asked you this a couple of years ago, 2642 01:53:45,680 --> 01:53:48,240 Speaker 3: but where are we at now? With you sending somebody 2643 01:53:48,280 --> 01:53:51,559 Speaker 3: to a game where the team is that's two weeks 2644 01:53:51,560 --> 01:53:53,360 Speaker 3: down the line in the schedule, you're going to face 2645 01:53:53,400 --> 01:53:54,559 Speaker 3: them and you're in the building. 2646 01:53:54,640 --> 01:53:56,639 Speaker 1: You're still allowed to do those kinds of things. 2647 01:53:56,720 --> 01:54:00,200 Speaker 10: Yeah, typically the advanced scout will go watch the game 2648 01:54:00,320 --> 01:54:02,840 Speaker 10: of the opponent the week before, unless there's a buy 2649 01:54:02,920 --> 01:54:04,240 Speaker 10: and then maybe you go two weeks out. 2650 01:54:04,280 --> 01:54:06,439 Speaker 9: So it's pretty standard procedure across the league. 2651 01:54:06,520 --> 01:54:09,920 Speaker 10: So, you know, Miami, whenever they play, we'll have somebody 2652 01:54:09,920 --> 01:54:12,439 Speaker 10: that's advanced in Miami that will see them play live. 2653 01:54:12,760 --> 01:54:15,599 Speaker 10: And really you're not looking for too many things other 2654 01:54:15,680 --> 01:54:17,960 Speaker 10: than a couple things to kind of clean up their report, right, 2655 01:54:18,040 --> 01:54:20,280 Speaker 10: maybe send the injuries, what took place during the course 2656 01:54:20,280 --> 01:54:22,920 Speaker 10: of the game, so the coaches have the most updated 2657 01:54:22,960 --> 01:54:26,320 Speaker 10: information in terms of their preparation for that week. 2658 01:54:26,479 --> 01:54:28,519 Speaker 1: How do you do that for yourself? Right? 2659 01:54:28,640 --> 01:54:30,800 Speaker 3: Do you have different people and they have different roles 2660 01:54:30,840 --> 01:54:32,640 Speaker 3: every week looking at specific things. 2661 01:54:32,880 --> 01:54:37,520 Speaker 10: Yeah, every opponent has a specific scout assigned to that team, 2662 01:54:37,560 --> 01:54:40,520 Speaker 10: and then you have other people within the organization, analytics, 2663 01:54:40,560 --> 01:54:42,720 Speaker 10: some of the other different groups will provide information on 2664 01:54:42,760 --> 01:54:46,600 Speaker 10: that particular team, So you kind of segment the responsibility 2665 01:54:46,640 --> 01:54:49,880 Speaker 10: to spread the responsibilities out and everybody kind of has 2666 01:54:49,880 --> 01:54:52,960 Speaker 10: a certain workload each week, all to provide the information 2667 01:54:53,040 --> 01:54:54,560 Speaker 10: to the staff and to the players so we can 2668 01:54:54,720 --> 01:54:57,560 Speaker 10: utilize it and put ourselves in the best position on Sunday. 2669 01:54:57,680 --> 01:54:59,400 Speaker 1: So it's the scouting report on Mount Union. 2670 01:55:00,560 --> 01:55:04,280 Speaker 10: They're a good football team that we haven't beaten I 2671 01:55:04,280 --> 01:55:05,080 Speaker 10: think in a long time. 2672 01:55:05,160 --> 01:55:05,360 Speaker 5: Yeah. 2673 01:55:05,400 --> 01:55:07,440 Speaker 9: Sure, if you ask Cecil, he'll tell you if and 2674 01:55:07,480 --> 01:55:08,320 Speaker 9: when it's ever happened. 2675 01:55:08,360 --> 01:55:10,320 Speaker 3: They have all those players, right, don't They have two 2676 01:55:10,360 --> 01:55:11,600 Speaker 3: hundred players or something. 2677 01:55:11,880 --> 01:55:14,760 Speaker 10: They've done a great job with the program, so they do. 2678 01:55:14,800 --> 01:55:17,800 Speaker 10: They have a massive amount of kids at their disposal. 2679 01:55:17,920 --> 01:55:20,560 Speaker 10: So however, many dress you know, varsity and then they 2680 01:55:20,560 --> 01:55:23,640 Speaker 10: have the university program. But it's a great program. Have 2681 01:55:23,680 --> 01:55:25,600 Speaker 10: a lot of respect for their program what they've done 2682 01:55:25,640 --> 01:55:27,640 Speaker 10: through the years. There's not so many programs in college 2683 01:55:27,640 --> 01:55:31,360 Speaker 10: football that can compete with what Mount Union does, regardless 2684 01:55:31,400 --> 01:55:33,840 Speaker 10: of the level. So it'll be I'm sure it'll be 2685 01:55:33,840 --> 01:55:35,240 Speaker 10: a fun environment alliance there. 2686 01:55:35,320 --> 01:55:38,760 Speaker 3: This week, there's executive vice president and general manager Nick Cassario. 2687 01:55:38,880 --> 01:55:42,400 Speaker 3: Some of our weekly visit with him coming up. Matt Burke, 2688 01:55:42,520 --> 01:55:45,640 Speaker 3: defensive coordinator man is he interesting, has a lot of 2689 01:55:45,680 --> 01:55:49,360 Speaker 3: tools to work with Texans top five defense in this league, 2690 01:55:49,440 --> 01:55:52,200 Speaker 3: leading the NFL and takeaways. Let's get to the DC 2691 01:55:52,360 --> 01:55:55,400 Speaker 3: Matt Burke next here on Texans Radio. Grateful to have 2692 01:55:55,480 --> 01:55:59,560 Speaker 3: you listening to Texans Radio this holiday weekend. Grateful it's Thanksgiving. 2693 01:55:59,600 --> 01:56:02,240 Speaker 3: We have to mention these things, and we truly are 2694 01:56:02,360 --> 01:56:05,320 Speaker 3: always grateful to have you listening. As we've got the 2695 01:56:05,360 --> 01:56:07,760 Speaker 3: Friday night Bonus Hour in progress for you here on 2696 01:56:07,800 --> 01:56:10,200 Speaker 3: Texans All Access. And this features some of our best 2697 01:56:10,200 --> 01:56:12,960 Speaker 3: content of the week, some choice cuts. Things like that 2698 01:56:13,280 --> 01:56:15,880 Speaker 3: Matt Burke is the defensive coordinator of this team. 2699 01:56:15,920 --> 01:56:17,000 Speaker 1: Now, Burke's been around. 2700 01:56:16,760 --> 01:56:19,280 Speaker 3: The block in this league and he's a super interesting 2701 01:56:19,320 --> 01:56:23,640 Speaker 3: guy off the field as well as He's hiked Mount Kilimanjaro. 2702 01:56:24,160 --> 01:56:28,400 Speaker 3: He's studied gorillas in the wild in Africa. He's done 2703 01:56:28,440 --> 01:56:32,200 Speaker 3: a bunch of stuff that's non football related that's really interesting. 2704 01:56:32,240 --> 01:56:33,760 Speaker 3: I mean, you'd love to just do a three hour 2705 01:56:33,840 --> 01:56:36,480 Speaker 3: podcast with Matt Burke and talk about anything but football. 2706 01:56:36,520 --> 01:56:37,040 Speaker 1: At times. 2707 01:56:37,440 --> 01:56:39,440 Speaker 3: Of course, you do want to talk about football because 2708 01:56:39,440 --> 01:56:41,360 Speaker 3: the defensive unit is playing so well. They are a 2709 01:56:41,440 --> 01:56:44,400 Speaker 3: top five defense, lead the league in takeaways. So many 2710 01:56:44,440 --> 01:56:47,680 Speaker 3: different things to highlight here, including Danil Hunter, and we'll 2711 01:56:47,680 --> 01:56:51,000 Speaker 3: get to that, but it started off this conversation with 2712 01:56:51,320 --> 01:56:53,640 Speaker 3: a few things, including, but not limited to the fact 2713 01:56:53,680 --> 01:56:55,840 Speaker 3: that he went to Dartmouth and John Harris went to 2714 01:56:56,080 --> 01:56:57,880 Speaker 3: Brown and the two just played each other. 2715 01:56:57,920 --> 01:56:59,600 Speaker 1: So you have to let the Ivy League guys have 2716 01:56:59,680 --> 01:57:00,520 Speaker 1: at it little bit. 2717 01:57:00,840 --> 01:57:05,960 Speaker 3: And also, it's my Cause, My Kicks weekend for not 2718 01:57:06,280 --> 01:57:08,720 Speaker 3: just the players they have my Cause, my cleats, but 2719 01:57:09,120 --> 01:57:12,000 Speaker 3: support personnel, coaches, they have my Cause, my kicks. I 2720 01:57:12,000 --> 01:57:14,920 Speaker 3: have my own cause with my Kicks, Junior Achievement. I'm 2721 01:57:14,960 --> 01:57:17,240 Speaker 3: on the board of directors of Junior Achievement, have been 2722 01:57:17,320 --> 01:57:19,440 Speaker 3: for over twenty years, and I have my annual golf 2723 01:57:19,520 --> 01:57:21,520 Speaker 3: tournament in the spring. A little plug there. We'll get 2724 01:57:21,560 --> 01:57:24,640 Speaker 3: to that later. But for Matt Burke, it's the Diane 2725 01:57:24,680 --> 01:57:30,880 Speaker 3: Fosse research efforts that go into the preservation of gorillas 2726 01:57:31,280 --> 01:57:34,920 Speaker 3: in the wild. Because the population was nearly extinct in 2727 01:57:34,960 --> 01:57:36,360 Speaker 3: the eighties, they've built it back up. 2728 01:57:36,400 --> 01:57:37,400 Speaker 1: She was a huge part of it. 2729 01:57:37,600 --> 01:57:40,200 Speaker 3: She was featured in a movie called Gorilla's in the 2730 01:57:40,240 --> 01:57:43,680 Speaker 3: Mist in nineteen eighty eight. Some of you may have 2731 01:57:43,760 --> 01:57:45,800 Speaker 3: seen that the young people here had never heard of it, 2732 01:57:46,040 --> 01:57:47,040 Speaker 3: but it's Sigourney Weaver. 2733 01:57:47,080 --> 01:57:47,880 Speaker 1: It's a really good movie. 2734 01:57:47,920 --> 01:57:51,240 Speaker 3: Actually, Brian Brown good cast, good flick, and it's a 2735 01:57:51,280 --> 01:57:55,680 Speaker 3: biopick about Diane Fosse, who Matt Burke and his now 2736 01:57:55,760 --> 01:57:57,200 Speaker 3: wife then fiance. 2737 01:57:57,440 --> 01:57:59,400 Speaker 1: I guess she became his fiance on the trip. You'll 2738 01:57:59,440 --> 01:58:00,200 Speaker 1: hear the story. 2739 01:58:00,320 --> 01:58:03,680 Speaker 3: They became very interested in this cause that's some off 2740 01:58:03,680 --> 01:58:04,480 Speaker 3: football stuff. 2741 01:58:04,480 --> 01:58:05,240 Speaker 1: But let's get to. 2742 01:58:05,120 --> 01:58:08,720 Speaker 3: That conversation big part of it with Matt Burke defensive coordinator. 2743 01:58:09,280 --> 01:58:13,000 Speaker 2: Let's address the eight hundred pound gorilla in the room. Oh, 2744 01:58:13,720 --> 01:58:18,200 Speaker 2: we'll get to that in a second. Okay, Darbu beat Brown. Alright, 2745 01:58:18,240 --> 01:58:20,839 Speaker 2: this past week, go and gloat. You got thirty seconds 2746 01:58:20,840 --> 01:58:21,400 Speaker 2: to glove. 2747 01:58:21,360 --> 01:58:23,840 Speaker 11: Go beat first of all beats probably an understatement. Yes, 2748 01:58:24,600 --> 01:58:25,680 Speaker 11: fifty six we hung up. 2749 01:58:25,760 --> 01:58:26,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I don't know. 2750 01:58:26,960 --> 01:58:28,760 Speaker 1: Fifty six It was not good and it's not a 2751 01:58:28,760 --> 01:58:29,080 Speaker 1: good thing. 2752 01:58:29,160 --> 01:58:31,560 Speaker 11: And bought us to share the title of the league title. 2753 01:58:31,680 --> 01:58:35,120 Speaker 11: So I think that's three in a row for the Green. Yeah, someday, someday, 2754 01:58:35,200 --> 01:58:35,600 Speaker 11: you know. 2755 01:58:35,600 --> 01:58:38,280 Speaker 2: Someday, I mean a man could dream. It's been since 2756 01:58:38,320 --> 01:58:40,320 Speaker 2: I think two thousand and five maybe for us. 2757 01:58:40,400 --> 01:58:42,280 Speaker 1: So do they play this weekend or is it done? 2758 01:58:42,360 --> 01:58:42,680 Speaker 5: That's it? 2759 01:58:42,840 --> 01:58:43,240 Speaker 1: That's over. 2760 01:58:43,360 --> 01:58:46,320 Speaker 11: It's a ten game schedule. They literally start the Saturday 2761 01:58:46,360 --> 01:58:49,040 Speaker 11: before Thanksgiving and work backwards and no buys ten straight. 2762 01:58:49,840 --> 01:58:51,760 Speaker 1: That's it. It's over, Wowell. They've done it the way 2763 01:58:51,800 --> 01:58:52,800 Speaker 1: they will always do it. 2764 01:58:52,840 --> 01:58:56,200 Speaker 2: Now let's address the real eight hundred pound gorilla in 2765 01:58:56,280 --> 01:58:59,240 Speaker 2: the room, and that are these beautiful You see how 2766 01:58:59,280 --> 01:59:01,760 Speaker 2: I did that that you learned at IVY these schools 2767 01:59:02,120 --> 01:59:05,920 Speaker 2: we have your my cause, Mike. Yeah, these are freaking awesome, 2768 01:59:05,960 --> 01:59:09,880 Speaker 2: by the way. Cool the Diana Fossey Gorilla Fund International. Now, 2769 01:59:10,040 --> 01:59:11,880 Speaker 2: we had a feeling when these were sitting in here 2770 01:59:12,560 --> 01:59:14,600 Speaker 2: that there was a story in The very first words 2771 01:59:14,600 --> 01:59:17,080 Speaker 2: out of your mouth were, well, there's a story always, 2772 01:59:17,480 --> 01:59:19,960 Speaker 2: So let's get a story with First of all, why 2773 01:59:20,360 --> 01:59:21,280 Speaker 2: why this foundation? 2774 01:59:21,800 --> 01:59:23,160 Speaker 5: And what do you think about the kicks? 2775 01:59:23,240 --> 01:59:25,360 Speaker 11: Kicks are sweet, man, I like them, great job. 2776 01:59:25,760 --> 01:59:27,360 Speaker 1: I was appreciative. Honestly, this is cool. 2777 01:59:27,360 --> 01:59:28,760 Speaker 11: This is like the first team I've been on that 2778 01:59:29,400 --> 01:59:31,800 Speaker 11: kind of lets coaches participate in and helps us out. 2779 01:59:31,640 --> 01:59:32,040 Speaker 5: With this stuff. 2780 01:59:32,080 --> 01:59:35,280 Speaker 11: So that's that's pretty sweet. I'm appreciated the organization for that. 2781 01:59:35,320 --> 01:59:42,120 Speaker 11: But my wife and I got engaged in Uganda hiking 2782 01:59:42,160 --> 01:59:44,800 Speaker 11: with gorillas. Oh nice, So we were on a trip 2783 01:59:44,840 --> 01:59:50,000 Speaker 11: over there and there's it's actually at the time there 2784 01:59:50,000 --> 01:59:52,920 Speaker 11: were only this was however many years ago that was 2785 01:59:52,960 --> 01:59:55,960 Speaker 11: but there were only about eight hundred mountain gorillas in 2786 01:59:56,000 --> 01:59:58,400 Speaker 11: the wild still in the eighties. It was down like 2787 01:59:58,440 --> 02:00:00,840 Speaker 11: it was like two hundred and fifty left obviously in 2788 02:00:00,920 --> 02:00:05,000 Speaker 11: dangered species, and so it's obviously near and dear to us. 2789 02:00:05,000 --> 02:00:07,240 Speaker 11: Like we got engaged over there like that just obviously 2790 02:00:07,360 --> 02:00:09,360 Speaker 11: a big moment in our lives, and it was a 2791 02:00:09,400 --> 02:00:11,960 Speaker 11: huge experience for us besides the besides an engagement part, 2792 02:00:12,000 --> 02:00:14,400 Speaker 11: like just being around it. We spent three days where 2793 02:00:14,400 --> 02:00:18,480 Speaker 11: you hike out into the been windy impenetrable forest. There 2794 02:00:18,480 --> 02:00:20,840 Speaker 11: as a national park there right in the Rwanda you've 2795 02:00:20,840 --> 02:00:24,880 Speaker 11: gone to border and you can kind of track the 2796 02:00:24,880 --> 02:00:27,840 Speaker 11: gorillas and see them. I mean we were ten feet 2797 02:00:27,880 --> 02:00:31,440 Speaker 11: from from gorilla pods, which is really really cool experience. 2798 02:00:31,520 --> 02:00:34,160 Speaker 11: So the fund is one of the ones that we 2799 02:00:34,200 --> 02:00:39,160 Speaker 11: actually give to regularly annually that just continues to protect 2800 02:00:39,160 --> 02:00:42,560 Speaker 11: the environment, protect the habitat, preserve poaching still that goes 2801 02:00:42,600 --> 02:00:45,560 Speaker 11: on there and stuff. And just like I said, probably 2802 02:00:45,600 --> 02:00:49,040 Speaker 11: in the last we call it thirty forty years, I 2803 02:00:49,040 --> 02:00:54,040 Speaker 11: mean they've almost like probably quadrupled the population of Mounta 2804 02:00:54,080 --> 02:00:57,360 Speaker 11: gorillas in the wild. So it's just part of that 2805 02:00:57,400 --> 02:01:00,400 Speaker 11: process to help continue preserve those environments. Obviously now with 2806 02:01:00,560 --> 02:01:04,360 Speaker 11: just the forests and stuff that their their habitats are 2807 02:01:04,360 --> 02:01:07,600 Speaker 11: getting affected and stuff. So and then obviously we have 2808 02:01:07,640 --> 02:01:10,160 Speaker 11: a personal connection to the area and to the animals. 2809 02:01:10,160 --> 02:01:13,560 Speaker 11: So yeah, that's kind of where that started. So that's cool, 2810 02:01:13,640 --> 02:01:14,240 Speaker 11: that'll be fun. 2811 02:01:14,360 --> 02:01:17,960 Speaker 3: So when Lindsay Fox, our pr goddess, informed me that 2812 02:01:18,240 --> 02:01:21,959 Speaker 3: the Coach Burke Cause was the Diane Fozzy Gorilla Foundation, 2813 02:01:22,240 --> 02:01:25,680 Speaker 3: I went full Sigourney Weaver. Gorilla's in the Miss nineteen 2814 02:01:25,720 --> 02:01:27,920 Speaker 3: eighty eight. I've seen the movie, so that's how I'm 2815 02:01:27,960 --> 02:01:30,360 Speaker 3: familiar with and I read up on Diane Fosse after 2816 02:01:30,360 --> 02:01:32,680 Speaker 3: seeing the movie, and I saw it again relatively recently 2817 02:01:32,720 --> 02:01:35,360 Speaker 3: within the last year and a half. Ye did that 2818 02:01:35,400 --> 02:01:37,640 Speaker 3: movie have a lot to do with the support really, 2819 02:01:37,640 --> 02:01:40,400 Speaker 3: because it's great publicity at the time in the eighties 2820 02:01:40,840 --> 02:01:42,120 Speaker 3: to alert everybody to this. 2821 02:01:42,240 --> 02:01:45,920 Speaker 11: Absolutely like her work over there and obviously like spending 2822 02:01:45,960 --> 02:01:47,840 Speaker 11: time and I think she was a little bit more 2823 02:01:47,840 --> 02:01:49,640 Speaker 11: focused in on the Rwanda side of things. It's the 2824 02:01:49,640 --> 02:01:52,240 Speaker 11: borders right there, and so like I think ninety percent 2825 02:01:52,280 --> 02:01:54,800 Speaker 11: of the world's gorilla population is in that one region, 2826 02:01:55,640 --> 02:01:57,600 Speaker 11: and those there's like a mountain range that runs through there. 2827 02:01:57,640 --> 02:02:02,640 Speaker 11: So obviously her like sort of recognition internationally like allow 2828 02:02:02,680 --> 02:02:04,960 Speaker 11: there to start this and and sort of like continue 2829 02:02:04,960 --> 02:02:07,400 Speaker 11: to preserve the animals. So it's been cool, like just 2830 02:02:07,400 --> 02:02:10,000 Speaker 11: to see them, even like I said, my way's gonna 2831 02:02:10,040 --> 02:02:13,560 Speaker 11: kill me, I gauged. I think what year that was, 2832 02:02:14,120 --> 02:02:17,120 Speaker 11: seventeen maybe, so like even the last seven years, I 2833 02:02:17,160 --> 02:02:20,800 Speaker 11: think it's it's added another like almost two hundred gorillas 2834 02:02:20,800 --> 02:02:22,480 Speaker 11: have been added into the wild population. 2835 02:02:23,000 --> 02:02:26,920 Speaker 2: So did you go there, I mean, obviously were you 2836 02:02:27,000 --> 02:02:30,080 Speaker 2: aware at the time or was this something that when 2837 02:02:30,080 --> 02:02:33,080 Speaker 2: you got there you were made aware of that situation. 2838 02:02:33,160 --> 02:02:35,080 Speaker 2: Did you go there with that thought in mind? Or 2839 02:02:35,080 --> 02:02:37,200 Speaker 2: did you go there just want to have a great 2840 02:02:37,680 --> 02:02:40,320 Speaker 2: situation and then oh, man, look at this, this is 2841 02:02:40,360 --> 02:02:42,400 Speaker 2: something that we had discovered while we were there. 2842 02:02:42,440 --> 02:02:44,560 Speaker 11: No, we went specifically for this, Like you have to 2843 02:02:44,600 --> 02:02:48,240 Speaker 11: kind of plan ahead. They because gorillas are so close 2844 02:02:48,320 --> 02:02:52,320 Speaker 11: to like humans, like a lot of the diseases of 2845 02:02:52,400 --> 02:02:54,480 Speaker 11: same diseases affect them and things, so they actually limit 2846 02:02:54,520 --> 02:02:56,720 Speaker 11: the exposure. So you kind of have to buy almost 2847 02:02:56,720 --> 02:02:58,920 Speaker 11: like lottery tickets to like actually like go on some 2848 02:02:58,960 --> 02:03:01,440 Speaker 11: of these tracks. They try to limit the number of 2849 02:03:02,120 --> 02:03:04,400 Speaker 11: humans that actually get up and and things like that, 2850 02:03:04,480 --> 02:03:05,920 Speaker 11: so you have to kind of plan ahead to like 2851 02:03:05,920 --> 02:03:07,320 Speaker 11: actually get a get a chance to do this. 2852 02:03:07,360 --> 02:03:08,480 Speaker 5: So that was our goal. 2853 02:03:08,560 --> 02:03:10,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was cool when you got engaged on the trip. 2854 02:03:10,800 --> 02:03:15,160 Speaker 3: Was that so you would win every engagement story I've. 2855 02:03:14,960 --> 02:03:16,440 Speaker 1: Got right here? 2856 02:03:16,680 --> 02:03:18,200 Speaker 5: No, I think this the clock was ticking. 2857 02:03:18,240 --> 02:03:20,280 Speaker 11: We've been danged for about five years already, so I 2858 02:03:20,280 --> 02:03:21,720 Speaker 11: had to do it at some point. But no, we 2859 02:03:21,920 --> 02:03:24,160 Speaker 11: just we travel a lot. It's like been part of 2860 02:03:24,200 --> 02:03:26,080 Speaker 11: that was part of our relationship still is to this day, 2861 02:03:26,160 --> 02:03:28,160 Speaker 11: like poth of us to a lot of international travel, 2862 02:03:28,240 --> 02:03:30,080 Speaker 11: and so it just kind of felt like the right 2863 02:03:30,200 --> 02:03:30,800 Speaker 11: right thing to do. 2864 02:03:31,160 --> 02:03:36,320 Speaker 2: Speaking of marriage, your work, marriage, Yes, with obviously the 2865 02:03:36,320 --> 02:03:38,760 Speaker 2: defense you're being married to the defense just your thoughts 2866 02:03:38,880 --> 02:03:41,640 Speaker 2: thus far, coach, because the last couple of games, especially 2867 02:03:42,000 --> 02:03:46,760 Speaker 2: at home, we've had situations where five interceptions, eight sacks. 2868 02:03:46,800 --> 02:03:48,920 Speaker 2: I mean, you're doing stuff that we're looking up during 2869 02:03:48,920 --> 02:03:50,520 Speaker 2: the third or fourth quarter of a game, going, hey, 2870 02:03:50,520 --> 02:03:53,600 Speaker 2: what's the record for sacks in a game? How many interceptions? 2871 02:03:53,600 --> 02:03:55,720 Speaker 2: What's our record for interceptions? We're doing things that the 2872 02:03:55,760 --> 02:03:59,200 Speaker 2: Texans have never done before. Defensively, how do you kind 2873 02:03:59,200 --> 02:04:01,040 Speaker 2: of feel about what the unit has been able to 2874 02:04:01,040 --> 02:04:01,520 Speaker 2: do lately. 2875 02:04:01,960 --> 02:04:03,960 Speaker 11: Yeah, obviously there's a lot of a lot of good things, 2876 02:04:04,560 --> 02:04:08,160 Speaker 11: all those things. That's and and I would say, you know, 2877 02:04:09,120 --> 02:04:10,480 Speaker 11: we have dynamic playmakers. 2878 02:04:10,560 --> 02:04:10,920 Speaker 5: We do. 2879 02:04:11,040 --> 02:04:13,960 Speaker 11: We have good players, and there's explosive talent on the board. 2880 02:04:14,000 --> 02:04:17,280 Speaker 11: And I think really and really the messaging this week 2881 02:04:17,320 --> 02:04:19,440 Speaker 11: has been like that's all well and good and and 2882 02:04:19,640 --> 02:04:23,440 Speaker 11: and being an explosive defense, and everyone talks about explosive outfits. 2883 02:04:23,480 --> 02:04:25,880 Speaker 11: I look at us as an explosive defense and the 2884 02:04:25,880 --> 02:04:28,320 Speaker 11: ability to create big plays and sacks and we've had 2885 02:04:28,400 --> 02:04:31,400 Speaker 11: a touchdown last two games, and the turnovers and all 2886 02:04:31,440 --> 02:04:35,400 Speaker 11: those things. But you know, there's still a little bit 2887 02:04:35,400 --> 02:04:38,240 Speaker 11: of inconsistency in the play and play out execution of 2888 02:04:38,280 --> 02:04:40,880 Speaker 11: your job, and so that can either carry so far 2889 02:04:41,000 --> 02:04:43,600 Speaker 11: or can mass things or that's when to me, that's 2890 02:04:43,600 --> 02:04:46,080 Speaker 11: when the results are a little up and down, right, 2891 02:04:46,200 --> 02:04:47,760 Speaker 11: when you when you have to cut through and say, 2892 02:04:47,760 --> 02:04:50,840 Speaker 11: hey man, we have to be able to execute consistently 2893 02:04:50,880 --> 02:04:53,040 Speaker 11: playing and play out within the details of your job 2894 02:04:53,120 --> 02:04:56,080 Speaker 11: or whatever your responsibility is. And if that's missing then 2895 02:04:56,480 --> 02:04:59,240 Speaker 11: the big plays happened, but that fluctuates, right, and then 2896 02:04:59,480 --> 02:05:01,840 Speaker 11: you're giving up big plays also at stuff. So I 2897 02:05:01,840 --> 02:05:04,560 Speaker 11: think our messaging, especially coming off last week, is like, hey, 2898 02:05:04,600 --> 02:05:07,400 Speaker 11: we've got like great things and we wish we could 2899 02:05:07,440 --> 02:05:10,200 Speaker 11: be celebrating those things more. I mean, Daniel Hunter had 2900 02:05:10,200 --> 02:05:12,160 Speaker 11: an unbelievable game last week, you know what I mean, 2901 02:05:12,200 --> 02:05:15,000 Speaker 11: with three sacks and five TFLs. But we're not talking 2902 02:05:15,000 --> 02:05:17,800 Speaker 11: about that because we lost and because and why did 2903 02:05:17,840 --> 02:05:20,320 Speaker 11: that happen? And so I think the messaging has been, hey, 2904 02:05:20,360 --> 02:05:24,200 Speaker 11: we need to work on the consistency level of execution 2905 02:05:24,480 --> 02:05:26,640 Speaker 11: play and play out. I know Demico talked about focus 2906 02:05:26,720 --> 02:05:29,360 Speaker 11: or in the week and saying like, hey, this play, 2907 02:05:29,400 --> 02:05:32,640 Speaker 11: what's my responsibility like hyper focus on this? And when 2908 02:05:32,640 --> 02:05:34,600 Speaker 11: you do that in the consistency level comes now the 2909 02:05:34,640 --> 02:05:37,280 Speaker 11: talent and the explosive and those big plays are leading 2910 02:05:37,320 --> 02:05:38,120 Speaker 11: to bigger results. 2911 02:05:38,600 --> 02:05:42,080 Speaker 3: So what about facing Trevor Lawrence possibly most likely and 2912 02:05:42,120 --> 02:05:44,480 Speaker 3: the Jacksonville Jaguars whatever they put on the field, because 2913 02:05:44,480 --> 02:05:46,800 Speaker 3: they do have explosive playmakers. They haven't always done it 2914 02:05:46,840 --> 02:05:48,600 Speaker 3: this year, but they're capable of doing. 2915 02:05:48,440 --> 02:05:49,280 Speaker 1: No doubt, no doubt. 2916 02:05:49,320 --> 02:05:50,760 Speaker 11: I mean, I think it's the same thing. I mean, 2917 02:05:51,080 --> 02:05:53,800 Speaker 11: two good running backs, a great tight end, a great receiver. 2918 02:05:53,960 --> 02:05:56,960 Speaker 11: I mean, and yeah, they're starting quarterback. We're asuming coming back. 2919 02:05:57,000 --> 02:05:58,040 Speaker 5: We'll see how that plays out. 2920 02:05:58,040 --> 02:06:01,880 Speaker 11: But you know, division game and on the road again, 2921 02:06:01,960 --> 02:06:04,080 Speaker 11: so I mean all those things like it's it's it's 2922 02:06:04,120 --> 02:06:06,800 Speaker 11: gonna take our best effort. And I think again we're 2923 02:06:06,800 --> 02:06:09,040 Speaker 11: starting with hey man, like, we got to do it 2924 02:06:09,120 --> 02:06:11,560 Speaker 11: play in and play out, and we can't. We can't 2925 02:06:11,560 --> 02:06:13,440 Speaker 11: slip all my bad. There's there's not a week for 2926 02:06:13,520 --> 02:06:15,120 Speaker 11: my bads. I mean, they have a lot of talent 2927 02:06:15,160 --> 02:06:18,320 Speaker 11: and a lot of capability of creating plays on you. 2928 02:06:18,400 --> 02:06:21,520 Speaker 11: So hopefully we can go down and show really what 2929 02:06:22,040 --> 02:06:24,240 Speaker 11: what improvements we've made going through this process. 2930 02:06:24,520 --> 02:06:27,880 Speaker 2: Coach, you mentioned Danil the last two games. It feels 2931 02:06:27,920 --> 02:06:29,960 Speaker 2: like there are things that he's doing on a field 2932 02:06:30,000 --> 02:06:32,120 Speaker 2: where if you're watching on film and you got to 2933 02:06:32,120 --> 02:06:34,400 Speaker 2: a little quicker, you're like, what what did I do? 2934 02:06:34,520 --> 02:06:37,880 Speaker 1: What am I? Holy cow? What did he just do 2935 02:06:38,360 --> 02:06:39,680 Speaker 1: to get to the quarterback here? 2936 02:06:39,880 --> 02:06:42,520 Speaker 2: It feels like he's hitting a stride that I don't 2937 02:06:42,520 --> 02:06:45,000 Speaker 2: even know that he hit Minnesota. What's been kind of 2938 02:06:45,000 --> 02:06:46,880 Speaker 2: the biggest thing for him to kind of get to 2939 02:06:46,920 --> 02:06:48,360 Speaker 2: this level, because it feels like he's played at a 2940 02:06:48,440 --> 02:06:49,280 Speaker 2: high level all year. 2941 02:06:49,560 --> 02:06:51,080 Speaker 5: Last two weeks, it's almost like he went to a 2942 02:06:51,080 --> 02:06:51,800 Speaker 5: different level. 2943 02:06:51,920 --> 02:06:56,280 Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, he's on a heater for sure. I don't know, man, 2944 02:06:56,400 --> 02:06:58,600 Speaker 11: Like I do think he's kind of just growing into it. 2945 02:06:58,640 --> 02:06:59,840 Speaker 11: You know, we all I say this a lot. 2946 02:07:00,040 --> 02:07:00,200 Speaker 2: Man. 2947 02:07:00,240 --> 02:07:02,640 Speaker 11: It's it's a different system of it's it's a different 2948 02:07:02,680 --> 02:07:04,800 Speaker 11: style of kind of how we how we play and 2949 02:07:04,800 --> 02:07:07,000 Speaker 11: preach things here and it and and even though when 2950 02:07:07,040 --> 02:07:09,400 Speaker 11: he's a great player and he is, like, it still 2951 02:07:09,440 --> 02:07:12,400 Speaker 11: takes some growth and some time to really acclimate to 2952 02:07:12,400 --> 02:07:14,480 Speaker 11: to our our system and our style. And so I 2953 02:07:14,520 --> 02:07:18,720 Speaker 11: think he's just getting more and more comfortable within that. 2954 02:07:18,800 --> 02:07:21,320 Speaker 11: And so the sort of like you know, for anyone, 2955 02:07:21,360 --> 02:07:23,920 Speaker 11: not just him, like when you're learning something new, like 2956 02:07:24,040 --> 02:07:27,560 Speaker 11: the hesitation and the uncertainty, like obviously the more reps 2957 02:07:27,560 --> 02:07:29,720 Speaker 11: you get, that part's going away. And again now he's 2958 02:07:29,800 --> 02:07:32,240 Speaker 11: just he's such a he's like in a flow state 2959 02:07:32,360 --> 02:07:34,560 Speaker 11: right now, and it's just it's just happening naturally. He's 2960 02:07:34,600 --> 02:07:37,800 Speaker 11: not thinking, he's just really out there just playing and 2961 02:07:37,840 --> 02:07:39,960 Speaker 11: reacting to what he's seeing. So he's just to me, 2962 02:07:40,000 --> 02:07:41,800 Speaker 11: it's been a little bit like more he's playing with 2963 02:07:41,800 --> 02:07:45,120 Speaker 11: a little more freedom almost mentally because he's just not 2964 02:07:45,320 --> 02:07:47,000 Speaker 11: I think he's kind of he's got it. 2965 02:07:47,000 --> 02:07:48,000 Speaker 9: It kind of clicked for him. 2966 02:07:47,920 --> 02:07:52,520 Speaker 1: And yeah, players getting it in. It's kind of in 2967 02:07:52,560 --> 02:07:53,160 Speaker 1: that area. 2968 02:07:53,160 --> 02:07:55,840 Speaker 11: Is I think he sure has been, so I hope 2969 02:07:55,840 --> 02:07:57,320 Speaker 11: he stays that way for a couple of months. 2970 02:07:57,640 --> 02:08:00,720 Speaker 3: Like I said, outstanding stuff with defensive coordinate Matt Burke 2971 02:08:00,800 --> 02:08:03,240 Speaker 3: in this bonus hour of Texans All Access some of 2972 02:08:03,240 --> 02:08:05,400 Speaker 3: the best stuff of the week, including but not limited 2973 02:08:05,440 --> 02:08:09,440 Speaker 3: to Eric Murray starting safety on this unit. 2974 02:08:09,640 --> 02:08:12,000 Speaker 1: And Eric Murray is a veteran. 2975 02:08:12,240 --> 02:08:14,440 Speaker 3: He's learned how to take care of his body differently 2976 02:08:14,520 --> 02:08:17,320 Speaker 3: over the years. On Tuesday, during the Players Show with 2977 02:08:17,440 --> 02:08:21,440 Speaker 3: nd Kalou, we talked about Murray's recovery efforts. He was 2978 02:08:21,480 --> 02:08:24,480 Speaker 3: talking about needles. This is sort of an acupuncture thing. 2979 02:08:24,520 --> 02:08:28,280 Speaker 3: We'll discuss that, and we talked about red light therapy 2980 02:08:28,400 --> 02:08:30,680 Speaker 3: and a whole bunch of other region and rehab stuff 2981 02:08:30,880 --> 02:08:34,000 Speaker 3: that Murray uses, among other things, to keep his body 2982 02:08:34,120 --> 02:08:37,440 Speaker 3: going as he marches on through his career as an 2983 02:08:37,560 --> 02:08:38,520 Speaker 3: NFL defender. 2984 02:08:38,800 --> 02:08:41,360 Speaker 12: Yeah, this week to week, sometimes you fo get stepped on, 2985 02:08:41,560 --> 02:08:43,760 Speaker 12: or you might take a different hit so whatever you 2986 02:08:43,840 --> 02:08:46,040 Speaker 12: feel in for that week, just make sure you can 2987 02:08:46,200 --> 02:08:47,680 Speaker 12: kind of configure your plan and fit that. 2988 02:08:48,080 --> 02:08:48,240 Speaker 1: Now. 2989 02:08:48,280 --> 02:08:50,280 Speaker 13: I know, you know, my last year was in two 2990 02:08:50,320 --> 02:08:51,880 Speaker 13: thousand and eight, so I'm an old man, so I 2991 02:08:51,920 --> 02:08:55,160 Speaker 13: know massage, I know the needles, you know, but the 2992 02:08:55,160 --> 02:08:56,440 Speaker 13: red light explain that to me. 2993 02:08:56,480 --> 02:08:59,120 Speaker 12: And some of these it's more on a cellular level 2994 02:09:00,160 --> 02:09:04,000 Speaker 12: to kind of facilitate healing from that standpoint. So you know, 2995 02:09:04,240 --> 02:09:06,280 Speaker 12: as we go through life, we're influenced by light some 2996 02:09:06,560 --> 02:09:09,920 Speaker 12: like you know, sunset, So that's kind of the idea 2997 02:09:10,000 --> 02:09:12,920 Speaker 12: behind it, in these different forms of light to help 2998 02:09:13,080 --> 02:09:14,840 Speaker 12: heal the body from inside out. 2999 02:09:15,200 --> 02:09:17,160 Speaker 1: Well, this is interesting, all right. 3000 02:09:17,160 --> 02:09:19,960 Speaker 3: And the needles, it's kind of acupuncture ish. 3001 02:09:20,280 --> 02:09:22,320 Speaker 12: Yeah, it's dry kneeling, the needles a little bigger. It's 3002 02:09:22,320 --> 02:09:25,480 Speaker 12: a little bigger, so it's more of a a more 3003 02:09:25,520 --> 02:09:29,480 Speaker 12: of a palpitation rather than acupuncture. Is like needle and 3004 02:09:29,520 --> 02:09:31,640 Speaker 12: then you kind of rest and you know, sit there. 3005 02:09:31,880 --> 02:09:33,280 Speaker 1: So does that hurt? 3006 02:09:33,360 --> 02:09:35,880 Speaker 3: I actually had this done once, indeed, because I had 3007 02:09:35,880 --> 02:09:38,840 Speaker 3: a foot problem playing basketball and Jeremy, one of the 3008 02:09:38,840 --> 02:09:41,120 Speaker 3: guys in there, he said, I we'll try the needle, 3009 02:09:41,160 --> 02:09:44,040 Speaker 3: and I was like, I'm not gonna look and it does. 3010 02:09:44,240 --> 02:09:46,960 Speaker 3: You know, it feels interesting, like there's a needle in 3011 02:09:47,000 --> 02:09:49,400 Speaker 3: your foot. Okay, so you go through this a lot. 3012 02:09:49,760 --> 02:09:52,960 Speaker 12: Yeah, it really anything that happens like right away, it 3013 02:09:52,960 --> 02:09:55,920 Speaker 12: helps alleviate it pretty fast, so you can kind of 3014 02:09:56,040 --> 02:09:58,280 Speaker 12: sense like if it worked or not right away. 3015 02:09:58,320 --> 02:10:00,360 Speaker 1: Are they hitting the nerve or something and notknock it 3016 02:10:00,400 --> 02:10:01,320 Speaker 1: out or not? 3017 02:10:01,360 --> 02:10:03,720 Speaker 12: Really the nerve more more so the muscle. They try 3018 02:10:03,760 --> 02:10:07,200 Speaker 12: to avoid the nerves, but you know, sometimes things happen. 3019 02:10:07,320 --> 02:10:08,720 Speaker 1: So I think it's a big distraction. 3020 02:10:08,880 --> 02:10:10,920 Speaker 3: I got a needle in me, so I don't feel 3021 02:10:10,960 --> 02:10:11,760 Speaker 3: the other thing anymore. 3022 02:10:11,760 --> 02:10:16,080 Speaker 13: I'm definitely so a lot of guys like for me, 3023 02:10:16,880 --> 02:10:19,360 Speaker 13: you listen to the older guys Brian Dawkins, you know, 3024 02:10:19,400 --> 02:10:21,520 Speaker 13: he really talked to me and taught me about cold 3025 02:10:21,520 --> 02:10:24,400 Speaker 13: tub hot tub. When you were first in the league. 3026 02:10:24,440 --> 02:10:26,400 Speaker 13: Was there an older vet that you looked up to 3027 02:10:26,480 --> 02:10:29,720 Speaker 13: that kind of talked about this rehab process not rehabbing? 3028 02:10:29,920 --> 02:10:32,320 Speaker 12: Yeah, more so when I got I got drafted by 3029 02:10:32,400 --> 02:10:34,680 Speaker 12: Kansas City. So I follow Eric Berry around a lot, 3030 02:10:35,360 --> 02:10:37,240 Speaker 12: just watching him. How he you know, took care of 3031 02:10:37,320 --> 02:10:40,040 Speaker 12: himself a lot of epsom, salt baths, a lot of 3032 02:10:40,080 --> 02:10:42,240 Speaker 12: sauna and like you said, a lot of hot and cold, 3033 02:10:42,320 --> 02:10:45,680 Speaker 12: tough therapy. He was religious with that stuff because he 3034 02:10:45,800 --> 02:10:48,480 Speaker 12: you know, he played a physical game, so he had 3035 02:10:48,480 --> 02:10:49,800 Speaker 12: to take care of himself throughout the week. 3036 02:10:50,080 --> 02:10:50,400 Speaker 1: All right. 3037 02:10:50,440 --> 02:10:53,000 Speaker 3: So, Eric, at this point of the year, and maybe 3038 02:10:53,040 --> 02:10:55,640 Speaker 3: earlier in the year too, when you practice, is it 3039 02:10:55,720 --> 02:10:58,560 Speaker 3: more mental or physical right now? Because you want to 3040 02:10:58,760 --> 02:11:01,920 Speaker 3: maintain your body, maintain and your energy for game day. 3041 02:11:02,320 --> 02:11:04,240 Speaker 3: But you got to learn the schemes and whatever else 3042 02:11:04,320 --> 02:11:06,320 Speaker 3: you guys need to learn exits and those Wise, how 3043 02:11:06,320 --> 02:11:07,640 Speaker 3: does that go for your practice? 3044 02:11:08,080 --> 02:11:10,560 Speaker 12: It's more it's a little bit about honestly, I think 3045 02:11:11,040 --> 02:11:12,840 Speaker 12: in the beginning of the season, like you, like you said, 3046 02:11:12,840 --> 02:11:16,280 Speaker 12: you're preparing, getting the body ready, but as you begin 3047 02:11:16,400 --> 02:11:18,840 Speaker 12: to taper down, want to keep the mind as sharp 3048 02:11:18,840 --> 02:11:20,520 Speaker 12: as possible, but you want to keep the body as 3049 02:11:20,560 --> 02:11:21,560 Speaker 12: fresh as possible too. 3050 02:11:21,600 --> 02:11:23,440 Speaker 9: So it's a healthy balance. 3051 02:11:24,000 --> 02:11:26,200 Speaker 13: When you talk to some of the younger guys, Obviously, 3052 02:11:26,320 --> 02:11:28,480 Speaker 13: the ebbs and flows of a season, ups and downs. 3053 02:11:28,480 --> 02:11:30,680 Speaker 13: I'm sure right now you know after the loss is 3054 02:11:30,720 --> 02:11:32,600 Speaker 13: feeling down, Like, what are some of the things that 3055 02:11:32,640 --> 02:11:34,880 Speaker 13: you're telling the younger guys to keep the spirits up 3056 02:11:34,960 --> 02:11:37,520 Speaker 13: and let them know the big picture, the ultimate goal 3057 02:11:37,560 --> 02:11:38,520 Speaker 13: is still in reach. 3058 02:11:38,800 --> 02:11:41,120 Speaker 12: You got to take a game by game still, like 3059 02:11:41,680 --> 02:11:44,360 Speaker 12: you know, at the top of our division and very 3060 02:11:44,440 --> 02:11:47,600 Speaker 12: much control our destiny. So continue to come out and 3061 02:11:47,640 --> 02:11:51,040 Speaker 12: put together consistent performances against our remaining schedule, and that's 3062 02:11:51,200 --> 02:11:52,200 Speaker 12: that's all you can really do. 3063 02:11:52,520 --> 02:11:55,480 Speaker 3: Is it a weird situation because we've only had this 3064 02:11:55,600 --> 02:11:58,960 Speaker 3: maybe once, maybe twice, really only once in the history 3065 02:11:59,000 --> 02:12:01,720 Speaker 3: of the franchise where you have this kind of cushion 3066 02:12:01,720 --> 02:12:02,960 Speaker 3: and you have a two game lead, but you don't 3067 02:12:03,000 --> 02:12:05,520 Speaker 3: want to see that evaporate either, do you guys think 3068 02:12:05,560 --> 02:12:06,560 Speaker 3: about that kind of stuff. 3069 02:12:06,600 --> 02:12:08,640 Speaker 1: You know that you're in the lead, but you know 3070 02:12:08,680 --> 02:12:09,880 Speaker 1: the job's not done yet. 3071 02:12:10,480 --> 02:12:13,640 Speaker 12: I think just from what we've seen throughout throughout last week, 3072 02:12:14,240 --> 02:12:15,880 Speaker 12: you just got to come out and play every Sunday. 3073 02:12:16,760 --> 02:12:19,120 Speaker 12: It's you know, I think Kansas City what won by 3074 02:12:19,120 --> 02:12:22,600 Speaker 12: three points against the Panthers. So you know, you got 3075 02:12:22,640 --> 02:12:24,520 Speaker 12: to come out there and play your best ball every Sunday. 3076 02:12:24,600 --> 02:12:28,600 Speaker 12: And you never know however somebody's feeling that day, how 3077 02:12:28,600 --> 02:12:31,200 Speaker 12: they prepare it that week. It's the NFL, so you 3078 02:12:31,200 --> 02:12:32,040 Speaker 12: gotta come ready. 3079 02:12:32,240 --> 02:12:33,520 Speaker 5: You know, he's a good guy to ask. 3080 02:12:33,840 --> 02:12:36,879 Speaker 13: I'm going back a couple of weeks. But I've always 3081 02:12:36,960 --> 02:12:40,920 Speaker 13: thought that the fans buy into certain rivalries more so 3082 02:12:41,000 --> 02:12:44,080 Speaker 13: than the players. With you not being from Texas and 3083 02:12:44,120 --> 02:12:46,480 Speaker 13: I'm going back a couple of weeks for you. Was 3084 02:12:46,520 --> 02:12:49,800 Speaker 13: the Dallas Cowboy game just another game which is important? 3085 02:12:49,960 --> 02:12:52,160 Speaker 13: Or was there a little added umph to it? 3086 02:12:53,440 --> 02:12:55,840 Speaker 12: Like you said, I'm not from here, so I can 3087 02:12:55,880 --> 02:12:58,960 Speaker 12: only get the sentiment I get from other people who 3088 02:12:59,080 --> 02:13:02,000 Speaker 12: was born in Texas, you know. So I feel like 3089 02:13:02,360 --> 02:13:03,960 Speaker 12: even if it's a lot of people who live in 3090 02:13:04,000 --> 02:13:06,880 Speaker 12: Houston that might be Dallas fans, and then it might 3091 02:13:06,920 --> 02:13:09,360 Speaker 12: be a smaller percentage of people who live in Dallas 3092 02:13:09,400 --> 02:13:11,640 Speaker 12: who might be Houston fans. So I just tried to 3093 02:13:11,640 --> 02:13:13,720 Speaker 12: catch the vibe from them to see, you know, how 3094 02:13:13,760 --> 02:13:15,040 Speaker 12: things went okay? 3095 02:13:15,160 --> 02:13:17,800 Speaker 13: Okay, Because when I played in Philadelphia and I grew 3096 02:13:17,880 --> 02:13:21,120 Speaker 13: up in San Antonio, they hated Dallas. So you know, 3097 02:13:21,120 --> 02:13:23,480 Speaker 13: they're like, we don't care what happens, just beat the Cowboys. 3098 02:13:23,720 --> 02:13:25,200 Speaker 13: And part of me was like, I just want to 3099 02:13:25,240 --> 02:13:27,520 Speaker 13: win every game, like I don't care that much who 3100 02:13:27,560 --> 02:13:30,600 Speaker 13: were playing. So I just did you know you're from Wisconsin, right, Yeah, 3101 02:13:30,720 --> 02:13:33,000 Speaker 13: old guy from Wisconsin. You know, I just want to 3102 02:13:33,000 --> 02:13:34,560 Speaker 13: get your fill in the Cowboy week. 3103 02:13:35,320 --> 02:13:38,200 Speaker 3: So coach Ryans was in here yesterday Eric Eric Murray 3104 02:13:38,280 --> 02:13:40,560 Speaker 3: joining us, and he talked about the team meeting, and 3105 02:13:40,800 --> 02:13:42,560 Speaker 3: we talked about the twenty four hour rule, but he 3106 02:13:42,560 --> 02:13:44,560 Speaker 3: said this week, I might let it sit a little 3107 02:13:44,600 --> 02:13:47,120 Speaker 3: longer because that one really hurt. But you wanted to 3108 02:13:47,200 --> 02:13:49,000 Speaker 3: kind of motivate you at the same time, how do 3109 02:13:49,040 --> 02:13:50,360 Speaker 3: you see that and how is the team meeting? 3110 02:13:50,360 --> 02:13:51,680 Speaker 1: What can you tell the listeners about that? 3111 02:13:51,760 --> 02:13:55,720 Speaker 12: Anyway, Like you said, the sentiments was it was embarrassing 3112 02:13:55,760 --> 02:13:58,320 Speaker 12: loss for us. I think we all as an organization 3113 02:13:58,960 --> 02:14:00,880 Speaker 12: and as a whole, we have a high expectation of 3114 02:14:00,920 --> 02:14:04,520 Speaker 12: what we want to accomplish this year. So you just 3115 02:14:04,600 --> 02:14:07,160 Speaker 12: lay that out and be transparent about it, and you know, 3116 02:14:07,200 --> 02:14:09,080 Speaker 12: look yourself in the mirror and find ways to improve. 3117 02:14:09,200 --> 02:14:12,240 Speaker 13: So you know, I'm gonna question you on that because 3118 02:14:12,640 --> 02:14:14,440 Speaker 13: I'm of the belief it's tough to win in the 3119 02:14:14,560 --> 02:14:17,440 Speaker 13: NFL every week. So why did you use the word embarrassing? 3120 02:14:18,520 --> 02:14:18,680 Speaker 3: Uh? 3121 02:14:21,080 --> 02:14:23,560 Speaker 12: I use that word mainly because of I think the 3122 02:14:23,640 --> 02:14:27,560 Speaker 12: expectation we set for ourselves coming out in the season, 3123 02:14:28,520 --> 02:14:31,160 Speaker 12: with the acquisitions that we had over the summer and 3124 02:14:31,200 --> 02:14:34,720 Speaker 12: stuff like that. So we felt like our ceiling was 3125 02:14:34,800 --> 02:14:38,840 Speaker 12: up here, right. So I think as the season has 3126 02:14:38,880 --> 02:14:42,840 Speaker 12: progressed and some of the losses we took, I think 3127 02:14:42,840 --> 02:14:46,400 Speaker 12: our outlook looks a little different and it's just going forward. 3128 02:14:46,400 --> 02:14:48,160 Speaker 12: How do we continue to get better and grow? 3129 02:14:48,560 --> 02:14:50,600 Speaker 1: All right, good answer. I like that a lot. 3130 02:14:50,920 --> 02:14:54,160 Speaker 3: Playing Jacksonville on Sunday and these guys, you're in the 3131 02:14:54,200 --> 02:14:56,600 Speaker 3: division again. You haven't been on the road in the 3132 02:14:56,640 --> 02:14:59,120 Speaker 3: division since opening day, and I don't know if that's 3133 02:14:59,120 --> 02:15:01,320 Speaker 3: a big factor or not, but you're on natural grass 3134 02:15:01,360 --> 02:15:04,080 Speaker 3: in the division. They're coming off a buy and they're 3135 02:15:04,080 --> 02:15:06,040 Speaker 3: gonna be hungry even though they don't have a lot 3136 02:15:06,040 --> 02:15:08,440 Speaker 3: of victories. What do you see on Sunday? How do 3137 02:15:08,440 --> 02:15:09,280 Speaker 3: you see this matchup? 3138 02:15:09,560 --> 02:15:12,240 Speaker 12: Division games always tough, Like I said, it's any given Sunday, 3139 02:15:12,280 --> 02:15:15,440 Speaker 12: and you always got to prepare that week for that team. 3140 02:15:15,520 --> 02:15:19,120 Speaker 12: So Tennessee got us last week, were moving on the Jags, 3141 02:15:19,120 --> 02:15:20,680 Speaker 12: and you know we're going to do our best prepared 3142 02:15:20,680 --> 02:15:21,640 Speaker 12: this week and get the dub. 3143 02:15:22,040 --> 02:15:24,520 Speaker 13: Speaking of preparation, you're a pros pro. I can just 3144 02:15:24,560 --> 02:15:27,960 Speaker 13: tell obviously you don't last them along this long, last 3145 02:15:27,960 --> 02:15:30,280 Speaker 13: in the league this long without being pros pro. And 3146 02:15:30,320 --> 02:15:32,120 Speaker 13: the way you take care of your body. But as 3147 02:15:32,160 --> 02:15:35,160 Speaker 13: you prepare for this game, when you watch film at home, 3148 02:15:35,400 --> 02:15:38,120 Speaker 13: like what do you watch? You watch the receiver's movements, 3149 02:15:38,160 --> 02:15:40,360 Speaker 13: you watch your formations, Like what do you look at? 3150 02:15:41,160 --> 02:15:44,160 Speaker 12: Really, I try to go look at other teams that 3151 02:15:44,280 --> 02:15:48,480 Speaker 12: duplicate the same defense we have. So if they play 3152 02:15:48,520 --> 02:15:50,600 Speaker 12: the Colts or something like that, we might have the 3153 02:15:50,640 --> 02:15:53,560 Speaker 12: same front and then we might play the same coverages 3154 02:15:53,600 --> 02:15:55,560 Speaker 12: on the back end. So just look at how they 3155 02:15:55,640 --> 02:15:59,080 Speaker 12: attack those coverages and I guess what that coordinator likes 3156 02:15:59,120 --> 02:16:01,000 Speaker 12: to do against that certain tree of defense. 3157 02:16:01,240 --> 02:16:03,840 Speaker 13: So you look more big picture and not so much 3158 02:16:03,960 --> 02:16:05,880 Speaker 13: individual receiving running back. 3159 02:16:06,040 --> 02:16:07,320 Speaker 12: But I mean, at the end of the day, it's 3160 02:16:07,400 --> 02:16:10,160 Speaker 12: like a coordinator. He has tendencies and what he likes 3161 02:16:10,200 --> 02:16:11,520 Speaker 12: to do at the end of the day. So like 3162 02:16:11,800 --> 02:16:14,320 Speaker 12: the people out there, yes they matter, but he gonna 3163 02:16:14,320 --> 02:16:16,600 Speaker 12: call what he's gonna call in those crucial situations. So 3164 02:16:17,160 --> 02:16:19,400 Speaker 12: if you privy to those situations, I think you can, 3165 02:16:19,600 --> 02:16:21,000 Speaker 12: you know, make some hay on those plays. 3166 02:16:21,120 --> 02:16:22,680 Speaker 1: Eric Murray with us when you're on the road. 3167 02:16:22,680 --> 02:16:26,200 Speaker 3: For you guys on the defensive side, the crowd has 3168 02:16:26,280 --> 02:16:28,720 Speaker 3: to be quiet or should be quiet for their offense 3169 02:16:28,760 --> 02:16:31,480 Speaker 3: so they can communicate. Does that help you guys communicating? 3170 02:16:31,520 --> 02:16:33,200 Speaker 3: The way the crowd getting into a bit of a 3171 02:16:33,280 --> 02:16:34,560 Speaker 3: hush while their offense. 3172 02:16:34,360 --> 02:16:37,120 Speaker 12: Is opera definitely helps in communication. But I think you 3173 02:16:37,200 --> 02:16:39,879 Speaker 12: still need that energy to feed on defense, so you 3174 02:16:40,000 --> 02:16:42,080 Speaker 12: just have to bring it yourself. But communication will be 3175 02:16:42,080 --> 02:16:43,960 Speaker 12: at an all time high, and we make some plays, so 3176 02:16:44,000 --> 02:16:45,280 Speaker 12: we'll get the energy up there too. 3177 02:16:45,240 --> 02:16:47,400 Speaker 3: Because at home, you guys have signals and stuff like that, 3178 02:16:47,480 --> 02:16:49,840 Speaker 3: because it does get loud while you're trying to communicate, 3179 02:16:50,240 --> 02:16:50,680 Speaker 3: for sure. 3180 02:16:50,800 --> 02:16:53,240 Speaker 12: So we just you know, do the best you can 3181 02:16:53,360 --> 02:16:55,120 Speaker 12: and the crowd will help us out a little bit 3182 02:16:55,120 --> 02:16:55,640 Speaker 12: in that regard. 3183 02:16:55,760 --> 02:16:58,440 Speaker 3: They're starting safety Eric Murray as we continue some of 3184 02:16:58,520 --> 02:17:01,080 Speaker 3: the best stuff stuff from the week here on Texans 3185 02:17:01,080 --> 02:17:03,720 Speaker 3: All Access the Bonus Hour on Friday Night. Coming up, 3186 02:17:03,760 --> 02:17:07,680 Speaker 3: one more segment and concussions the Guardian caps What is 3187 02:17:07,680 --> 02:17:10,520 Speaker 3: that all about? Doctor Kenneth Padel. This is one of 3188 02:17:10,520 --> 02:17:13,640 Speaker 3: the leading concussion experts in the country. He weighs it 3189 02:17:13,680 --> 02:17:15,640 Speaker 3: on that and a few other things on the way 3190 02:17:15,640 --> 02:17:19,879 Speaker 3: out here on Texans All Access. Final segment of the 3191 02:17:19,879 --> 02:17:23,160 Speaker 3: week here on Texans Radio. And not to get overly 3192 02:17:23,200 --> 02:17:26,240 Speaker 3: medical here, but concussions obviously a huge part of this game, 3193 02:17:26,280 --> 02:17:30,359 Speaker 3: and you've noticed the guardian caps. Guys wearing them during practice, 3194 02:17:30,720 --> 02:17:33,720 Speaker 3: training camp. Impossible not to notice, and also impossible not 3195 02:17:33,800 --> 02:17:36,720 Speaker 3: to notice guys wearing them during games. You'll see a 3196 02:17:36,800 --> 02:17:39,400 Speaker 3: helmet covered up. It looks like it's a little bit bigger, 3197 02:17:39,440 --> 02:17:43,039 Speaker 3: it looks kind of strange ish, But those guardian caps 3198 02:17:43,040 --> 02:17:47,199 Speaker 3: are really helping these guys in concussion prevention and coming back, 3199 02:17:47,280 --> 02:17:50,000 Speaker 3: making sure that when they do get back, they're safe. 3200 02:17:50,320 --> 02:17:52,960 Speaker 3: Let's get some great information here from one of the 3201 02:17:53,000 --> 02:17:56,039 Speaker 3: best experts in the country on the subject, from the 3202 02:17:56,080 --> 02:18:00,280 Speaker 3: Houston Methodist Concussion Center. It's doctor Kenneth Padel, and I 3203 02:18:00,280 --> 02:18:02,400 Speaker 3: asked them about guardian caps. 3204 02:18:02,720 --> 02:18:06,160 Speaker 14: The guardian cap actually goes back to about twenty ten 3205 02:18:06,280 --> 02:18:10,240 Speaker 14: when it was first introduced, wasn't used a lot. There 3206 02:18:10,280 --> 02:18:14,480 Speaker 14: were some issues about whether it would avoid warranties on helmets, 3207 02:18:14,520 --> 02:18:17,640 Speaker 14: but that turns out not to be the case, and 3208 02:18:17,800 --> 02:18:20,080 Speaker 14: it started to pick up a little steam, and in 3209 02:18:20,200 --> 02:18:27,080 Speaker 14: twenty twenty two, the NFL decided to test it in preseason. 3210 02:18:27,520 --> 02:18:31,280 Speaker 14: And the reason they did that, excuse me, preseason is 3211 02:18:31,320 --> 02:18:35,879 Speaker 14: the highest rate of concussions in the NFL. Obviously, you're 3212 02:18:35,920 --> 02:18:39,160 Speaker 14: carrying seventy men for teams, so you have more players, 3213 02:18:39,200 --> 02:18:42,320 Speaker 14: and that's part of it. But they decided to try 3214 02:18:42,360 --> 02:18:46,080 Speaker 14: it in preseason, and over the two years that they've 3215 02:18:46,120 --> 02:18:50,879 Speaker 14: had it in preseason, their data that they report is 3216 02:18:50,920 --> 02:18:55,279 Speaker 14: a fifty percent reduction in the number of concussions in preseason. 3217 02:18:56,000 --> 02:18:59,760 Speaker 14: Now that data is still private, it hasn't been vetted 3218 02:19:00,280 --> 02:19:03,760 Speaker 14: in the public yet, but assuming that's accurate data, that's 3219 02:19:03,800 --> 02:19:09,160 Speaker 14: a remarkable reduction. So earlier this year, in April twenty 3220 02:19:09,200 --> 02:19:12,920 Speaker 14: twenty four, the NFL made the decision that any player 3221 02:19:13,120 --> 02:19:19,000 Speaker 14: can wear the Guardian cap during the regular season. It's voluntary, 3222 02:19:19,040 --> 02:19:21,280 Speaker 14: so nobody's forced to do it. That's going to take 3223 02:19:21,320 --> 02:19:24,880 Speaker 14: a little time for that to take hold. Any type 3224 02:19:24,920 --> 02:19:28,720 Speaker 14: of new technology rule always takes a little time to 3225 02:19:28,800 --> 02:19:33,400 Speaker 14: gain popularity. Now, the science behind the Guardian cap is 3226 02:19:33,440 --> 02:19:37,240 Speaker 14: to reduce the amount of energy or force that's going 3227 02:19:37,280 --> 02:19:42,160 Speaker 14: through a helmet into the player's head and therefore reduced concussions. 3228 02:19:42,400 --> 02:19:44,640 Speaker 14: If you've ever seen the guardian caps, a bunch of 3229 02:19:44,640 --> 02:19:50,000 Speaker 14: little foam padding squares that are around the helmet and 3230 02:19:50,920 --> 02:19:55,879 Speaker 14: by design, it supposedly absorbs that force and therefore less 3231 02:19:55,959 --> 02:20:00,480 Speaker 14: goes into the player unless concussions. However, the actual is 3232 02:20:00,560 --> 02:20:03,640 Speaker 14: that's not how they actually work. They work because they're 3233 02:20:03,760 --> 02:20:08,280 Speaker 14: slippery and they move around the helmet and that deflects 3234 02:20:08,360 --> 02:20:12,440 Speaker 14: the direction of the energy away from the helmet. In 3235 02:20:12,600 --> 02:20:17,200 Speaker 14: laboratory testing both by the NFL and the NFL's Players 3236 02:20:17,280 --> 02:20:21,720 Speaker 14: Association as hired engineers in Virginia, Tech, which is completely 3237 02:20:21,760 --> 02:20:26,959 Speaker 14: independent from the NFL or any manufacturer, chows a significant 3238 02:20:27,040 --> 02:20:32,720 Speaker 14: reduction in the force the energy that happens when they collide. 3239 02:20:32,840 --> 02:20:36,640 Speaker 14: It's additive, meaning that if one player wears it, there's 3240 02:20:36,800 --> 02:20:40,840 Speaker 14: anywhere from about an eight to fifteen percent reduction in energy. 3241 02:20:41,200 --> 02:20:45,200 Speaker 14: If both players wear it, it's about fifteen to maybe 3242 02:20:45,480 --> 02:20:50,000 Speaker 14: twenty five thirty percent. So that's a lot of reduction 3243 02:20:50,160 --> 02:20:54,640 Speaker 14: and energy and technically should reduce the number of concussions. 3244 02:20:55,040 --> 02:20:57,520 Speaker 3: Great information, doctor, We look forward to catching up soon 3245 02:20:57,560 --> 02:20:59,600 Speaker 3: on more information on concussions. 3246 02:21:00,000 --> 02:21:02,080 Speaker 14: All right, Mark, you're welcome, Thanks a lot for having me. 3247 02:21:02,240 --> 02:21:04,920 Speaker 3: All Right, there's doctor Kenneth Padel from Houston Methodist, the 3248 02:21:04,920 --> 02:21:08,920 Speaker 3: official healthcare provider of the Houston Texans. Houston Methodist leading medicine, 3249 02:21:09,240 --> 02:21:11,040 Speaker 3: and that's going to do it for the week here 3250 02:21:11,080 --> 02:21:13,840 Speaker 3: on Texans Radio. We thank you for listening all of 3251 02:21:13,879 --> 02:21:17,560 Speaker 3: this stuff is available in podcast form on Spotify, Apple, 3252 02:21:18,160 --> 02:21:20,560 Speaker 3: on Houston Texans dot Com, the Texans App, wherever you 3253 02:21:20,600 --> 02:21:22,640 Speaker 3: get your podcasts, and we encourage you to listen to 3254 02:21:22,720 --> 02:21:24,600 Speaker 3: some of the content you might have missed throughout the 3255 02:21:24,640 --> 02:21:27,240 Speaker 3: course of the week and win or lose. We always 3256 02:21:27,240 --> 02:21:28,959 Speaker 3: do it, We always put it out and it's fun 3257 02:21:29,000 --> 02:21:31,600 Speaker 3: to hear from the players coaches find out what's going 3258 02:21:31,640 --> 02:21:34,959 Speaker 3: on as they navigate their way through the ups and 3259 02:21:35,000 --> 02:21:38,000 Speaker 3: downs of a seventeen game schedule, and we all know 3260 02:21:38,040 --> 02:21:40,680 Speaker 3: that they've lost four of six, but an opportunity to 3261 02:21:40,720 --> 02:21:44,760 Speaker 3: get things right on Sunday against Jacksonville divisional matchup on 3262 02:21:44,800 --> 02:21:45,160 Speaker 3: the road. 3263 02:21:45,160 --> 02:21:47,320 Speaker 1: We're going to be live at nine am. 3264 02:21:47,120 --> 02:21:52,160 Speaker 3: With Countdown presented by Medelo Especial with Sean Pendergast and 3265 02:21:52,200 --> 02:21:54,560 Speaker 3: Seth Payne, then the game call, then the post game 3266 02:21:54,560 --> 02:21:56,199 Speaker 3: with Sean and Clint Stirner. 3267 02:21:55,840 --> 02:21:57,400 Speaker 1: And we'll have it all for you Monday. 3268 02:21:57,440 --> 02:22:00,240 Speaker 3: We'll be back on the air eight am with Texans Monday, 3269 02:22:00,480 --> 02:22:02,640 Speaker 3: So we thank you for listening. Area forty five is 3270 02:22:02,680 --> 02:22:06,560 Speaker 3: coming up next. Don't miss Sean and Patrick as they 3271 02:22:06,760 --> 02:22:08,760 Speaker 3: will take you through the rest of the night. 3272 02:22:08,879 --> 02:22:10,800 Speaker 1: Have a great weekend, Go Texans.