Speaker 1: Whether it was reports on the news about inner city
Speaker 1: gang violence, interactions with the police in people of color,
Speaker 1: whether it was rap music telling hood stories and then
Speaker 1: people reporting on said rappers talking about hood stories. Industry
Speaker 1: plants as in rappers or artists who really ain't lived
Speaker 1: at life, but the industry put them in and make
Speaker 1: a lot of money. Commentary from the outside, conservative media.
Speaker 1: Whatever it was black people standing in front of the
Speaker 1: camera's telling us what we should do about our communities,
Speaker 1: Latino or Arab or whatever the case may be. People
Speaker 1: making these uh drawing these conclusions about what we should
Speaker 1: do with inner city life, or even pretending like they
Speaker 1: went through it. We have a collective saying about their credibility.
Speaker 1: Who wasn't outside politics, right, little politics? Listen, man, if
Speaker 1: you wasn't outside this is what we mean when we
Speaker 1: were all younger, and I mean, it's just one of
Speaker 1: those like old tropes, like you know you had to
Speaker 1: go home when the street lights came on, or when
Speaker 1: we was all at the kickback, or when there was
Speaker 1: some sort of issue and we had to go to
Speaker 1: the back alley and square up with somebody, like if
Speaker 1: you wasn't there, if you didn't really live through this.
Speaker 1: It really shows. It shows in your commentary. It shows
Speaker 1: when you clearly don't know what you're talking about, and
Speaker 1: it's clear only to us who were outside, not say
Speaker 1: all the time that like, I never gang bang the
Speaker 1: day in my life, but I had to learn how
Speaker 1: to navigate the situations that I was absolutely affiliated. I
Speaker 1: came from a part of town, a part of family
Speaker 1: that were rather active. I chose hip hop, I chose graffiti.
Speaker 1: I was, you know, standing in under under lightpoles at
Speaker 1: three four in the morning, battling foods, foods, pulling guns
Speaker 1: because they was losing. I was. I was tossing my
Speaker 1: bomber jacket on top of barbed wire. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, to hop the fence into the l a
Speaker 1: river to you know, to clack clack my iron lack.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I was, I was. I
Speaker 1: was doing graffiti stuff, you know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: was running from the po PO. But I just had
Speaker 1: a backpack full of spray paint, so I was outside.
Speaker 1: You know, There's there are nuances that I understand about
Speaker 1: the situation that unless you was really outside with us,
Speaker 1: you really you didn't know you had if you had
Speaker 1: a great family, that that's great. You know, even if
Speaker 1: you grew up in this environment, but you had parents
Speaker 1: with the wherewithal to not let you stand on the
Speaker 1: street corner with the rest of us, that's great. I've
Speaker 1: said it before, like my parents split, my father was around.
Speaker 1: You know who was that church? Like I got sit
Speaker 1: the church. Now, granted my church was uh them Little
Speaker 1: Foods was they was outside too. We just happen to
Speaker 1: be at churchill. But there's an authenticity of credibility about
Speaker 1: your hot takes because you was really outside. One thing
Speaker 1: when Nipsey Hustle passed, one thing that everybody would say
Speaker 1: about Nipsey was like, no, Nipsey was really out here.
Speaker 1: A lot of times we talk about rappers, at least
Speaker 1: when you're inside of the industry, there are those of
Speaker 1: us who know for a fact that these fools are
Speaker 1: not lying about what they say. That was really them.
Speaker 1: And then some of these suits are just entertainment or
Speaker 1: they're telling their brothers stories or their cousins stories, but
Speaker 1: it's not really them. There's a few dudes that are like, no,
Speaker 1: that's that's really him. Nipsey was one of those. Nipsey
Speaker 1: was really outside. Those stories are truthful. You run around
Speaker 1: any part of South Central in that Crunchhaw disc Drick. No,
Speaker 1: that's these stories are not fake. Yeah, why are there
Speaker 1: murals everywhere in his honor? It's because he was really
Speaker 1: out here. Then there's other artists like say, oh, I
Speaker 1: don't know a Takashi six nine, right, that's like, okay, Broyeah.
Speaker 1: I mean you snitched on the whole set. I mean
Speaker 1: I don't know if you really lived like this. I
Speaker 1: know I remember times us looking around at each other like, hey,
Speaker 1: do you know this? Niker? I ain't never seen this,
Speaker 1: do you? You know at some point when you run
Speaker 1: these streets, especially in the music industry, when it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: there should be at least one or two degrees of
Speaker 1: separation because we was all outside. That's what I'm trying
Speaker 1: to tell you, what was outside? Like I shouldn't know
Speaker 1: who this dude is, and well you don't know him.
Speaker 1: It's like I would ever die you wasn't outside. You
Speaker 1: wasn't outside. I want to talk about Israel and Palestine.
Speaker 1: This is probably gonna be one of the most difficult
Speaker 1: episodes we record because it's just so thorny and let
Speaker 1: me give y'all the truth. I wasn't there me and
Speaker 1: you was not there. I would venture to say a
Speaker 1: good number of the twitter takes and news feeds you've
Speaker 1: been seeing probably conjure up the same feelings to those
Speaker 1: in Palestine or Israel, for that matter, the same feelings
Speaker 1: that conjured up for me when I saw a report
Speaker 1: on another black on black crime, Like y'all was not here.
Speaker 1: I don't know if anybody that was born to raise
Speaker 1: in America, I don't know if I could take your
Speaker 1: take serious unless you one degree separated. I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: you wasn't outside. Dog Like part of it becomes real
Speaker 1: tricky to me because I know there's so much ancient
Speaker 1: history and beef here, But then from the outside looking in,
Speaker 1: it just looked like running the Middle colonialism, Like this
Speaker 1: is just good old fashioned white ship. But then you're like, wait,
Speaker 1: but it feels like it's like it might be different,
Speaker 1: and you're like, I don't know if I'm just a
Speaker 1: product of the West. I just know we wasn't outside. Now,
Speaker 1: judging of the thousands of people listening to this spot,
Speaker 1: some of y'all work, some of y'all were there, some
Speaker 1: of your daddies. Was there, Some of your mama's was there.
Speaker 1: Some of y'all fled this, some of y'all look here,
Speaker 1: this is my defense for all of y'all involved. I
Speaker 1: get it. We wasn't outside, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So this episode is to help everybody that wasn't there.
Speaker 1: So I don't want to nobody to form no conclusions
Speaker 1: if you will about some beef ship that go back
Speaker 1: to b C. Don't form your opinion based on what
Speaker 1: I tell you. Look, I'm just trying to give you
Speaker 1: a survey from the outside. So today, how I kind
Speaker 1: of want to do this pot is let's get into
Speaker 1: the theological history, which is like a whole other layer
Speaker 1: that us in America really don't understand how important that
Speaker 1: part is. Then we can get into the politics in
Speaker 1: the sense of the modern nation state. Like I think
Speaker 1: it's hard for Americans to understand that when they see Israel,
Speaker 1: we're not talking about your Oh Testament nin Like, we're
Speaker 1: only kind of talking about that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: We're talking about a modern nation state, as in a
Speaker 1: country that hasn't only existed until like, so, I know
Speaker 1: it's hard to get your brain around it, right, we
Speaker 1: need to talk about the ethnic identity of the people
Speaker 1: were talking about here. And then finally, like how to
Speaker 1: really navigate what's going on and how I'm gonna navigate
Speaker 1: that is this idea of like if you were outside,
Speaker 1: if you was really outside with us, you would understand
Speaker 1: these three things. One is that the land location matters. Two,
Speaker 1: if you was outside, you understand you really can't bunch down.
Speaker 1: And then three, if you was outside, you to understand
Speaker 1: that what trauma really due to a brain like if
Speaker 1: you was down bad, that you do anything to stay
Speaker 1: in power because you refused to be down bad like that. Again,
Speaker 1: all right, we're back now. As we get into it,
Speaker 1: I want to make sure that I set the tone
Speaker 1: real quick because again, like I said, it's gonna get
Speaker 1: a real thorny and we're gonna talk about some modern news.
Speaker 1: I want to make sure that everybody understands. And I'm
Speaker 1: gonna come back to this point a bunch of times
Speaker 1: that is Real is a modern nation state. It is
Speaker 1: not synonymous with Judaism. Israel is a country just like
Speaker 1: every other country. So critiquing the nation, modern nation municipality
Speaker 1: of Israel is not tantamount to having some sort of
Speaker 1: ethnic slur towards the Jews or Judaism. Those are two
Speaker 1: different things in the same way that America isn't Christianity. No,
Speaker 1: And and of course in those conversations there are some
Speaker 1: Americans that are like, what are you talking about? These
Speaker 1: colors don't run. I'm I'm gonna good American christian just
Speaker 1: like God made it because God wrote the Bible and
Speaker 1: good old fashioned English, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: then there's those that are like, kick rocks man, America,
Speaker 1: this is where I live because you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like they don't they be making decisions I do not
Speaker 1: approve of. Same season in Israel, the Israeli's have various
Speaker 1: a opinions about what their modern nation is doing. Hell
Speaker 1: non yah who still can't get a majority. Everybody don't agree,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So we talk about modern
Speaker 1: nations here. So it's not the same. Just like Zionism,
Speaker 1: it might as well be manifest destiny. It's a political concept,
Speaker 1: it's not theological. So it's important to remember that we're
Speaker 1: not talking Semites, we're talking countries. So that's what we're
Speaker 1: critiquing here is countries. Okay, now, God, I don't even
Speaker 1: know where to start because of how like far back
Speaker 1: this beef go. One thing to remember again, it's like
Speaker 1: this region of land was just as tribal as every
Speaker 1: other region of land. Those tribes feuded, fought, you know,
Speaker 1: worked over land, conquered each other, and then at some
Speaker 1: point in history, a quote unquote empire rose, just like
Speaker 1: everywhere else, quote unquote, united the feuding tribes right and
Speaker 1: built their sprawling empire. And then empires begin to war
Speaker 1: and clash, and swaths of land get conquered all over
Speaker 1: the place and then reconquered, and then a new empire rises.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is all of our world history books,
Speaker 1: which are just like, you know, a journey of conquering lands, right,
Speaker 1: But we usually only speak of these places in terms
Speaker 1: of like the monarchs of the empires that like continue
Speaker 1: to conquer each other, rather than the existing tribal communities
Speaker 1: that were forced into homogeney. You're following me. I mean
Speaker 1: it's the same in Europe, you know, Danes, Goths, the
Speaker 1: roaming Germanic tribes. There are a lot of different things,
Speaker 1: and then at some point the invention of the modern
Speaker 1: nation state post World War Two, where somebody just drew
Speaker 1: a line in the sand and said that, hey, look,
Speaker 1: I owned this part, and everybody in this part's under
Speaker 1: my control and won't want you to hear you go
Speaker 1: because it means you're not a citizen. Like this is
Speaker 1: a modern idea. Most of our borders are rather recent
Speaker 1: and they don't want to remember a border don't really
Speaker 1: occur in nature, Like it's there's no force field at
Speaker 1: the forty seven parallel that separates Canada from the United States.
Speaker 1: That's it's made up lines. It's the same in Israel
Speaker 1: and Palestine, in Lebanon and Jordan's in Syria like these,
Speaker 1: it's one place that had a lot of different drives. Listen,
Speaker 1: this region of land, I'm talking BC. You have to
Speaker 1: remember it's been conquered so many damn time. I mean
Speaker 1: back to like the Canaanites, you know, like, are you
Speaker 1: listening to me? The Canaanites, then your Bible Times King David,
Speaker 1: King of Israel, right then Babylonians, then Assyrians, then the
Speaker 1: mal Luke's then you know, then Rome right then the
Speaker 1: freaking Turkish Empire, then Britain. Like we're talking like this,
Speaker 1: just like this ship is ancient, because like you ever
Speaker 1: had an ancient beef, Like, we don't get that we
Speaker 1: over here in America, Like oftentimes I try to explain
Speaker 1: to people again hood ship to where it's like it's generational.
Speaker 1: But what we mean by generational we mean the seventies, nigked,
Speaker 1: I'm not talking seventy a d fam When I say
Speaker 1: we from here, like I'm from l A. I live
Speaker 1: in Boil Heights. Boil Heights is the Chicano community, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, hold up, there's a few Shinto and Buddhist
Speaker 1: temples around here. Turns out, before it was Chicano, it
Speaker 1: was Japanese. Boy, it was Japanese, it was Jewish. I
Speaker 1: had no idea. All I knew was that the Chicano
Speaker 1: movement low riders held zoot suits. They all come from
Speaker 1: Boil Heights. So I'm like, this is a historically Latino community.
Speaker 1: It's like, hold on now, because the city has flipped before.
Speaker 1: I did not know that. So when you talk to
Speaker 1: somebody in this swath out of land that we have
Speaker 1: now called either Israel, Palestine, hell, I'm gonna include Jordan's Syria,
Speaker 1: this whole plot of land Lebanon. When somebody say my
Speaker 1: family is from here. They mean no, literally, this building,
Speaker 1: this house, we have never not lived here. I mean
Speaker 1: for how long? They're like, I don't think you get it. Forever, nigger.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about when Mohammed, when the prophet Mohammed was alive.
Speaker 1: This is where we lived. People just keep putting flags
Speaker 1: in the sand and redrawing the lines and calling it mine.
Speaker 1: In the meantime, like I said, it's people that never left.
Speaker 1: They just woke up one morning in another country. We're
Speaker 1: not talking about the children of Israel like most people
Speaker 1: would a Christian background would think of. This discussion is
Speaker 1: about a modern nation state. But diving into your Bible,
Speaker 1: your children of Israel remembered during the Babylonia exile, the
Speaker 1: Syria exile, and then when you start your New Testament.
Speaker 1: According to your Bible, they got scattered. Jews got scattered
Speaker 1: across the world. And remember that that means that they
Speaker 1: show up in every ethnicity I mean, and experienced a
Speaker 1: freakish amount of persecution. Don't You can't nobody lie about that,
Speaker 1: like the Jews went through some ship. Okay, this is real.
Speaker 1: Now set that aside for a second. Politically, what's happening
Speaker 1: in the swath of land from like when the Roman Empire,
Speaker 1: as a diss renamed the whole region Palestine. But again,
Speaker 1: remember that's just what they called it. The people that
Speaker 1: are there just been there. Everybody needed scattered, some people
Speaker 1: never left, and then they were conquered by Muslim forces,
Speaker 1: conquered by Christian forces, conquered by like It's just it
Speaker 1: kept the borders kept getting moved on them. They just
Speaker 1: kept getting occupiers. Right, it's trauma up in back home,
Speaker 1: just like it's trauma happening in Europe now. Between eight
Speaker 1: and nineteen sixty seven, the British Empire had an armatist
Speaker 1: over the land over there. Basically they were like, you're
Speaker 1: not necessarily and I'm doing this a horrible disservice, Like
Speaker 1: I mean again, this is centuries and centuries of history
Speaker 1: and beef. At some point the British Empire was like, look, dude,
Speaker 1: we're just gonna do an armatist of this on this
Speaker 1: you know, chosen day. We're just gonna slide and y'all
Speaker 1: can figure out what y'all gonna do. Jewish people get
Speaker 1: this idea, who just been through them freaking Holocaust. They're like, listen, doc,
Speaker 1: we not want to hear y'all. Clearly, y'all don't want
Speaker 1: us here. We don't have a homeland. We need a homeland. Now.
Speaker 1: They thought about a spot of Africa, but then they
Speaker 1: ended up landing in We're just gonna go back to
Speaker 1: the land of our forefathers. But it's people already there
Speaker 1: that never left. So they come back and they attempt
Speaker 1: to warm a nation again. We're talking a modern nation,
Speaker 1: and it's people that's been here the whole time, and
Speaker 1: they're like, why do you have any rights to this?
Speaker 1: And here's here's what's interesting about it, Like I'm if
Speaker 1: you can tell, I'm switching perspectives between the Arab Palestinian
Speaker 1: and the European jew. The Arab Palestinian is like, y'all
Speaker 1: left Arab and came back white. They like, but you're Russian,
Speaker 1: you German, you Austrian? How do you got rights to this?
Speaker 1: And they're like, we from here, We're from here, just
Speaker 1: like you from here. We got a right to exist, right,
Speaker 1: So when you got that trauma sitting in your bones,
Speaker 1: you're like, listen, man, nobody's gonna wipe us out again.
Speaker 1: Palestine like wait, wait, wait, wait wait, wait, wait, wait wait,
Speaker 1: we got the same ship and we never left. Now,
Speaker 1: what's recently came into the news was some ground squirmishes,
Speaker 1: some bombs being volleyed back and forth, aid execution of
Speaker 1: an eviction of people that it's just one of a
Speaker 1: continuation of a ton of things that shouldn't be going on.
Speaker 1: I mean, some things went down, and there are some
Speaker 1: things that went down that like look here, man, I
Speaker 1: don't know what to tell you. This is verifiably wrong.
Speaker 1: You know, the Alaska mosque being shot up during Ramadan,
Speaker 1: bro Like, come on, because like I mean, they state
Speaker 1: Holy is to day, Like what is you doing? You know?
Speaker 1: And they like hold up, y'all just started the camera
Speaker 1: at the end. You know, these foods were stowing rocks
Speaker 1: hell right now as I'm recording this, tel Aviv on fire.
Speaker 1: I mean, Hermas didn't shot some they didn't shot some
Speaker 1: some damn missiles. Harm's out there in the Gaza strip.
Speaker 1: I mean, we call them terrorists. But again, when we
Speaker 1: weren't outside, the newest squirmish was an actual atrocity. I
Speaker 1: did that, and that's that's why I was like, it's
Speaker 1: kind of simple. There's no way to kind of cut this.
Speaker 1: There's some rules, y'all broke. Okay, this is y'all's holiest
Speaker 1: week at this point, man, everybody chill, like fallback, that's
Speaker 1: the holiest week. We could start scrapping next week like
Speaker 1: Nigga's Ramadan, like you should know better. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's like in the same way that like, Yo,
Speaker 1: you don't pop off during yam Kapoor. You feel me,
Speaker 1: like yo, fallback, Like that's y'all's holiest week. We share
Speaker 1: an ancestor in Abraham, like, let's okay, everybody chill, but
Speaker 1: next week ni gets home, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like at least like that's a but yo, dog, you're
Speaker 1: popping off on Ramadan, like even just in hood rules
Speaker 1: like that's a party foul homie, you out of pocket.
Speaker 1: So another great graham to follow two is called so
Speaker 1: you want to talk about? Right, and they do these
Speaker 1: just little info grams about specific things. So why do
Speaker 1: this thing? Why are we still talking about this particular
Speaker 1: situation now? Is um so something that recently, like in
Speaker 1: the news, happened. It was in sex Girard basically in
Speaker 1: October and Israeli court ruled that they could forcibly evict
Speaker 1: twelve Palestinian families from the East neighborhood Jerusalem called Sex Gerra.
Speaker 1: Now why that's so crazy is like, well, East Jerusalem
Speaker 1: is supposed to be Palestine. You're telling me that this
Speaker 1: is our plays, but yet you still got the rights
Speaker 1: to evict us in the same way that like you know,
Speaker 1: Palestine ain't got no they don't have any of the
Speaker 1: COVID vaccines because because Israel keeping them all but then
Speaker 1: saying that they owned state. And then you wonder why
Speaker 1: these niggas is always mad at y'all. I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: I mean, damn, it's like y'all running around here like
Speaker 1: you don't understand. Is that like, yo, that would make
Speaker 1: y'all mad too. So this ruling really just it just
Speaker 1: put fuel to the fire to a lot of the
Speaker 1: issues that was happening between these two nations and people. Right. So, anyway,
Speaker 1: as a result of this court ruling, like fifty Palestinians
Speaker 1: face the threat of like dispossession. So basically, like we
Speaker 1: kicked you out of one place, not a place you've got,
Speaker 1: We're kicking you out of this one. And the court's
Speaker 1: ruling that like the evicted families got to pay like
Speaker 1: twenty thousand dollars in covering their settlers legal expenses. And
Speaker 1: a little background about this neighborhood. It's like it's three
Speaker 1: thousand Palestinians, all refugees who were ethnically cleansed from their
Speaker 1: homes in the other parts of Palestine, which will get
Speaker 1: to this, you know, in the Night War. So like
Speaker 1: it's so complicated, doc uh. So, there was this agreement
Speaker 1: between Jordan's in nineteen fifty six that these families were
Speaker 1: promised housing in this land and the families were meant
Speaker 1: to receive their ownership titles after three years. But yo,
Speaker 1: this never happened because Israel conquered East Jerusalem before this
Speaker 1: mug was materialized. So before Israel was Israel, they had
Speaker 1: this deal, right, and then obviously Israel ain't honored this
Speaker 1: deal because Israel's like, well, y'all don't have anyway getting
Speaker 1: ahead of myself. The point is they're kicking people out
Speaker 1: of a land that you supposedly said they had freedom
Speaker 1: to exist in. And then so it's this double talk,
Speaker 1: right this like y'all can be cool, like you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's deebo it's basically both of our bikes,
Speaker 1: but it's just gonna stay at our house. It's it's
Speaker 1: like it's confusing, like and at the and the only
Speaker 1: conclusion that again I wasn't outside, but the only conclusion
Speaker 1: you could draw from looking at it is like y'all
Speaker 1: don't want them here. Just like a fifth grader looking
Speaker 1: at a political map from nineteen seven to now and
Speaker 1: just watching Palestine shrink. It's just at some point you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's I don't know, man, kind of feel like you
Speaker 1: don't want me here. And I know y'all keep saying,
Speaker 1: you know, a two state solution. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's like we're neighbors kind of, but let us just
Speaker 1: like running things. But you get everything y'all want. But like, man,
Speaker 1: I've been to Bethlehem, I've been to East Jerusalem and
Speaker 1: it's like it's crazy. You're you're walking through this land
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, on this hill you
Speaker 1: see this beautiful like housing development and you're like, yo,
Speaker 1: who lived there? And they're like, oh, those are Israel
Speaker 1: that's the Israeli settlement. And then some would say those
Speaker 1: are these verily occupiers. It's like depends on who you ask,
Speaker 1: and it's like, well, damn, you gave me this land,
Speaker 1: but then you took the best parts. I wasn't there.
Speaker 1: What I'm trying to tell you is I just this
Speaker 1: is how I look. But God, it's so complicated. So
Speaker 1: I think, ultimately the problems clodialist imperialistic actions. But I
Speaker 1: can't rewrite history. So you have a birth of this
Speaker 1: modern nation state. And this modern nation state was able
Speaker 1: to pull on a good amount of money and a
Speaker 1: good amount of heartstrings, especially from like Western Christianity. That's like,
Speaker 1: for some reason don't know how to read the Book
Speaker 1: of Revelation and think that this is prophecy. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying that Like, Okay, Israel's back where they're
Speaker 1: supposed to be. I mean, Jesus gonna come back soon.
Speaker 1: They ended up being able to really convolute this idea
Speaker 1: of this modern nation with the prophecies of their Old
Speaker 1: Testament Bible. Now, far be it from me to be
Speaker 1: the one to tell you that A plus B don't equal. See,
Speaker 1: because again I wasn't outside, but I've spent some time
Speaker 1: in the region, and I gotta tell you, man, Jews
Speaker 1: come in all colors Ethiopian. There's something that look very Arab,
Speaker 1: and there's something that look white as hell, and it
Speaker 1: looked to me like moving around Israel, this just looks
Speaker 1: like run of the mill white ship because everybody dark
Speaker 1: skinned was in service jobs. Now again that's just my eyes.
Speaker 1: I wasn't outside, but I know when I crossed that wall,
Speaker 1: like a literal wall, into East Jerusalem, I felt like
Speaker 1: I moved from Orange County or Beverly Hills into South
Speaker 1: Central and Watts. I was like, I don't know, it
Speaker 1: just looks like an apartheide. But listen, listen, listen, listen.
Speaker 1: I wasn't outside, So remember that we're talking right now,
Speaker 1: not about your theological positions. That's why the Temple Mountain
Speaker 1: is so interesting to me, because all of these people
Speaker 1: can claim jew Christian Muslim can claim spiritual and theological
Speaker 1: ties to this land as like this is rightfully theirs
Speaker 1: and the truth is in my mind like they all right.
Speaker 1: I just don't know, because again what outside I us? No?
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, like according to y'all, y'all share an ancestors.
Speaker 1: So I mean I guess ship run too deep because
Speaker 1: if somebody draw a border down your neighborhood, which I
Speaker 1: have experienced. Somebody draw a border around your neighborhood. All
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you go, you if you from a
Speaker 1: different district, and this district you in now don't like you.
Speaker 1: There's a story about it's on an NPR pod called
Speaker 1: consider this story about sugar Hill, which was a black
Speaker 1: affluent neighborhood that now the ten Freeway is. They have
Speaker 1: knocked down all the houses and built a freeway. So
Speaker 1: when that happened, you got your little house and vouchers,
Speaker 1: you had to go to a different part of town.
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, you're not in a black neighborhood.
Speaker 1: You up there with white people calling you nigger every
Speaker 1: time you step out the house. It's like, I didn't
Speaker 1: ask to be over here. You told me my house
Speaker 1: was this. Like right now, it's Palestinians who don't have
Speaker 1: a passport into Jerusalem and they like, I can't go
Speaker 1: to my grandma's house because she's in Jerusalem. And they're like,
Speaker 1: what do you mean you can't go there? Why why
Speaker 1: your grandma live over there? There's like because she's always
Speaker 1: been over there since ninety a d We then how
Speaker 1: comes she can't go to her house because her house
Speaker 1: is in Jerusalem, and it's like or houses in Israel.
Speaker 1: It's like, how does this? I understand how this work?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So many of people have
Speaker 1: tried to solve this, and they've tried to solve it
Speaker 1: from outside, the least of which was Bill Clinton and
Speaker 1: then Jared mother freakin Kushner, whose idea this whole two
Speaker 1: state idea, right, this like two nations with an asterisk
Speaker 1: to where it's like your sovereign nation kind of. So
Speaker 1: again you have to think of it as like Palestine
Speaker 1: was all the area, but all the area before it
Speaker 1: was called Palestine was Judea. But it's the same people.
Speaker 1: Like again, it's the same humans. And then these new
Speaker 1: humans came back from Europe doing this Clarton call for
Speaker 1: anybody who got this DNA to come back in here,
Speaker 1: while people that's always been here, it's like hold on,
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, hold on, holo, hold on, I
Speaker 1: get it. Everybody welcomed like you can't just build a nation,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And they're like no, no no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you got that corner. What the hell you mean I
Speaker 1: got this corner? You're moving to my house and say
Speaker 1: I can only live in the bathroom. What the what
Speaker 1: did you talking about? And then they're like, well, we're
Speaker 1: talking about it was our house. First, we just got
Speaker 1: put out. Now we're coming back for our house. I mean,
Speaker 1: didn't you see what happened when we was gone? Like
Speaker 1: they try to wipe us out? Bro, Like, didn't you
Speaker 1: see that where we're supposed to go? Then they like
Speaker 1: ship not here. So it's just look, Nigga, we wasn't there.
Speaker 1: Sit runs super deep for these people because it's cultural, ethnic, religious, nationally,
Speaker 1: like it's so much like Nigga, you don't get it, doc,
Speaker 1: you wasn't there. And what happens when the ship was
Speaker 1: this deep is Nigga starts shooting. Niggets just starts shooting
Speaker 1: right and pending on when you start turning on the
Speaker 1: camera is whose side you end up being on. And
Speaker 1: the problem is cameras wasn't invented. Nigga wouldn't have said,
Speaker 1: started this thorny because and you can't like there's nowhere
Speaker 1: in the world you could part from ten thousand miles away.
Speaker 1: What they should do, y'all gonna hold your black on
Speaker 1: black crime hot takes to yourself you wasn't here, and
Speaker 1: even if you was, I could tell by how you
Speaker 1: move and the conclusions you draw whether you was outside
Speaker 1: or not. Club politics. Look, I could tell from these
Speaker 1: two state solutions that everybody talking about. I'm like, listen,
Speaker 1: man clearly needed one of them. Niggas won't that. So
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to say is we don't know now
Speaker 1: again jail. Politically speaking, you got each Jerusalem, then you
Speaker 1: got or the West Bank, then you got Gaza Strip,
Speaker 1: and then you used to have the Golon Heights, but
Speaker 1: the goalon heights ended up going off to stopped by
Speaker 1: beefing over that. So according to Israel, they're like, listen,
Speaker 1: it's all good, y'all get this swath and this swath
Speaker 1: will take the rest. Cool everybody, cool, Okay, cool. The
Speaker 1: problem is in Palestine, they like, but y'all also get
Speaker 1: to live in the best parts of the places you
Speaker 1: said we had to stay in, So follow me, thinking
Speaker 1: like a native reservation, the natives were just here. And
Speaker 1: then America goes, well, y'all could get that square of land,
Speaker 1: and they're like, all right, I guess, and then they say,
Speaker 1: but wait a minute, there's a grassy hill in that
Speaker 1: state of Land. That's really nice. We want to build
Speaker 1: houses there too, and they're like, well, nigga, then you
Speaker 1: don't mean. My only conclusion is you just don't want
Speaker 1: us hear at all, because whenever you give us stuff,
Speaker 1: you're still move in there. And how is it yours
Speaker 1: to give you? Know? How is there is to give
Speaker 1: money and guns? Money and guns? So what are your
Speaker 1: options if you're trying to stand up to a fucking bully?
Speaker 1: Is asymmetrical warfare? Enter Hamas? What do I mean by
Speaker 1: asymmetrical warfare? I mean you don't square up with one
Speaker 1: of the strongest militaries in the world. No, You're you're
Speaker 1: kicking the balls, your your elbow, your bite. Listen, if
Speaker 1: God forbid, Robert have it my podcast brother, that's six
Speaker 1: foot white boy. That's just that's guns sexual niked it
Speaker 1: just loves guns. If he ever had an issue with me,
Speaker 1: Do you think I'm a square up with Robert Evans.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna square up with him. I'm cheating. Do
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying? That's asymmetrical. I don't stand
Speaker 1: a chance like actually fighting Roberts Yo saying asymmetrical that's
Speaker 1: what Hermas is doing. Are they terrorists? Pending on who
Speaker 1: you ask. This ain't the tape recorder defending them. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying I wasn't outside, and when you're not outside,
Speaker 1: you can't really get your brain around it. Look, look,
Speaker 1: there's been plenty of crimes that have happened on my watch.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying this right. I'm just saying I saw
Speaker 1: what happened, and I get it. I get that. I
Speaker 1: don't get it, which I really feel like should be
Speaker 1: stanti for me. America should be just pro peace like
Speaker 1: I just hope you'll need to stop killing each other.
Speaker 1: And if somebody at trash, you should be able to
Speaker 1: be like niked as trash here Goyo three, if you
Speaker 1: were outside, you'd understand. If you was outside, you would
Speaker 1: understand that location actually matters. I wondered, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: a slave descendant. I understand not having like a homeland
Speaker 1: to officially say is mine. I can do as many
Speaker 1: DNA tests as I as I want to, but that
Speaker 1: transatlantic slave trade just made it impossible for any like
Speaker 1: black person. You'd have to drop into a place that
Speaker 1: already exists. We tried that with Marcus Garvey's back to Africa.
Speaker 1: Movement and the ship just didn't work. It's a bad
Speaker 1: situation because eventually the oppressed to become the oppressor. It
Speaker 1: just happens like that, Like you can't just drop into
Speaker 1: a place, even though even if you can say, well,
Speaker 1: I mean I used to be here because somebody'd been
Speaker 1: toiling this soil the whole time. This is ship just
Speaker 1: don't work, man. But land matters like location matters, because
Speaker 1: specifically in this situation, this ship has prophecy to him.
Speaker 1: Their identity is honest lead tied to the soil. And
Speaker 1: everybody with their neighborhood tattooed on their neck understands it.
Speaker 1: Everybody that you know got the city tattooed on them,
Speaker 1: understand what that means. The soil not a Native American.
Speaker 1: I live right now in the historical tongue of a
Speaker 1: tribe land day for thousands of years they made of
Speaker 1: this clay, so they tied to that land is a
Speaker 1: better parallel than mine is. So the land matters. Our
Speaker 1: families have been here when when I when I went
Speaker 1: to Palestine, one of our guides was saying he was
Speaker 1: a Greek Orthodox Christian Arab is hail like ethnically, he's Arab, right,
Speaker 1: But he's like, look, dude, we were probably Muslim at
Speaker 1: one point, we were probably Jewish at one point. We
Speaker 1: might actually be ethnically historically Israeli, just like everybody else.
Speaker 1: But the place was just conchard so much, and sometimes
Speaker 1: you just do what you gotta do to make sure
Speaker 1: your family don't die. I don't get that. Like that's
Speaker 1: when you talk about identity and like connection to the soil.
Speaker 1: What he's saying is like, you don't get it. We've
Speaker 1: never left. This is who we are. The land matters
Speaker 1: now in the hood scenarios, It's like, yeah, like everything
Speaker 1: been taken from us, This our little corner of this
Speaker 1: little mud pool all we got. I'm anna defend it
Speaker 1: with everything I have because this is literally all we have.
Speaker 1: I get it. The location. You can't just pack up
Speaker 1: and leave. We got too much blood spilled on this.
Speaker 1: Say that's why gentrification is so painful for inner city people.
Speaker 1: It's like, look, man, this is violent. We didn't died
Speaker 1: on these streets. Why everybody's so interested in Compton Because
Speaker 1: we died LBC. You know what it stands for Long
Speaker 1: Beach Crip, Like our family died out here for y'all
Speaker 1: to think it's cool to go visit the LBC. No,
Speaker 1: like you wasn't outside, man, the land, the location actually matters,
Speaker 1: so hell yeah, I'm gonna fight to the DEA for this.
Speaker 1: Both of them believe specifically what I think. It's super
Speaker 1: interesting because that brings us to the current moment that like, Yo,
Speaker 1: the holiest spot the Dome of the rock Man, like
Speaker 1: the holiest spot in the Muslim faith family, or one
Speaker 1: of them is like, Israel just shot it up, Like
Speaker 1: that's crazy, you know what I'm saying. And it Israel
Speaker 1: on the day of celebration was so crazy that it
Speaker 1: falls right at the end of Ramadan, their celebration of
Speaker 1: them actually for forming a nation. They at the whaling wall,
Speaker 1: like praying on Palestinian death, like I just I don't.
Speaker 1: But at the same time it's like they like, nigga,
Speaker 1: we from here, we got kicked out of everywhere else.
Speaker 1: Would you want me to say, if you was outside,
Speaker 1: the turf matters, the land matters. Second thing I say
Speaker 1: is if you was outside, you understand that you can't
Speaker 1: punch down. Okay, you would be lying to yourself if
Speaker 1: you were to say that the Holocaust wasn't one of
Speaker 1: the worst atrocities of the twentieth century. I mean, come on,
Speaker 1: and then you couple that were all the other exiles
Speaker 1: and conquering that the Jews endured. But one thing I
Speaker 1: know about when you finally get up out of that
Speaker 1: is that that trauma really stays in your bone. And
Speaker 1: then when you get on top, it's hard to convince
Speaker 1: us anybody watching that you still that same person. People
Speaker 1: ask me recently what I think about Chance to rapper
Speaker 1: and what happened to his star power? To be honest,
Speaker 1: I think the answer is nothing happened to his star power.
Speaker 1: But part of what was so special about Chance was
Speaker 1: he was the people's champ. He was an independent artist,
Speaker 1: and that's what we loved about him. He was touring
Speaker 1: the world on a mixtape. It was like, Dane, this kid,
Speaker 1: just like this is crazy, Like we all like to
Speaker 1: see this underdog story. But then the other dog became
Speaker 1: a star, got a major deal, and got married, and
Speaker 1: it was like, you're not the underdog anymore, Like you
Speaker 1: made it. How do I relate to you now? Maybe
Speaker 1: you still see yourself as such, but you can't like,
Speaker 1: but you can't punch down and I think even if
Speaker 1: someone's punching up at you, and even if that punching
Speaker 1: up is as crazy as what Hamas did. Literally today,
Speaker 1: they lit Tel Aviv on fire with missile. That's I
Speaker 1: can't imagine a missile landing in my city. But you
Speaker 1: put you down back because you're still the one in power,
Speaker 1: like you're the little nation that could. I just don't
Speaker 1: believe it. He just can't punch down. That's to me why,
Speaker 1: Like you're this is why I talk across and ain't funny,
Speaker 1: Like this is not funny, Rush Limbaugh. You weren't funny
Speaker 1: because you was punching down. Now you take somebody different,
Speaker 1: like like okay, just fothering me check somebody like Larry
Speaker 1: the Cable Guy or like a Jeff Foxworthy day. They
Speaker 1: from the conservative spaces, but they are punching up like
Speaker 1: they're talking about just being poor. They're not punching down.
Speaker 1: They're just talking about how it's hard to be down.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, see that that's still work. And I
Speaker 1: feel like when you outside, you understand that you can't
Speaker 1: be a O G like punching down on this because
Speaker 1: you're just a little crazy, Like why is you doing
Speaker 1: why are you picking on a little me? Boss to
Speaker 1: boss like, what did you doing? You can't punch down?
Speaker 1: And then lastly, when you down bad, if you was outside,
Speaker 1: you understand when you when you were down bad, you
Speaker 1: do everything you can to stay in power, to protect
Speaker 1: the little bit of semblance of peace you think you got,
Speaker 1: even if it means becoming the very thing that had
Speaker 1: you down bad. Now listen, listen to me. I wasn't there.
Speaker 1: I honestly don't know. I'm just saying this high look
Speaker 1: to me, it's hard for me, as a black man
Speaker 1: in America to not empathize with the Palestinians because that
Speaker 1: just looks familiar to me, where someone else gets to
Speaker 1: decide your future. But the difference between who gets to
Speaker 1: decide my future and who's deciding there's is them niggas
Speaker 1: came from trauma too, So that's where it gets like,
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't know what to say. I know
Speaker 1: that my default position is to empathize with the oppressed.
Speaker 1: I know that oftentimes the message from the margins is
Speaker 1: usually the one that carries the most prophetic truth telling.
Speaker 1: So I may have a hot take here and there,
Speaker 1: but listen to problem you and me wasn't outside. I'm
Speaker 1: not telling you this right or wrong. I'm just telling
Speaker 1: you it's gang stuff because politics is really just gang
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