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Speaker 1: Swine Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio podcast.

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Speaker 2: Well, I feel like we just need to start with

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Speaker 2: how's your trip?

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Speaker 1: Which one? I know? Wow, York, Tampa.

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Speaker 3: I try really harder time I say Tampa not to

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Speaker 3: sound like I'm from Michigan, so hard to Tampa.

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Speaker 4: I feel like if I didn't watch so like, I

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Speaker 4: see you every week.

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Speaker 1: I see all every week.

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Speaker 4: But if I had not watched social media, I would

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Speaker 4: have had zero clue that you were gone last week

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Speaker 4: on two different trips.

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Speaker 1: Well it was back to back, I know, which is amazing.

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Speaker 1: That was great.

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Speaker 3: It's also weird because the kids are getting more into sports,

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Speaker 3: into all their things, where things are less easy to miss,

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Speaker 3: you know, and so like, while we homeschool and we

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Speaker 3: do that for the freedom flexibility, we're still all these

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Speaker 3: other obligations.

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Speaker 2: Do you have a question around a post that you put?

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Speaker 1: Oh, I hope this is good. Ah, I love it

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Speaker 1: when she.

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Speaker 2: But first, let's talk about how was New York incredible?

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Speaker 2: Love Live, Best Life and by Sarah Jessica.

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Speaker 1: Parker's I will cry right now. Yeah, I mean it's

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Speaker 1: such a moment.

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Speaker 3: It's so good, guys, I can cry literally right now

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Speaker 3: it's going to forever be in my DNA and I can.

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Speaker 3: I am fine being ridiculous about that and being so dramatic.

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Speaker 1: I don't even care.

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Speaker 3: I got the uber door opened, and I wish it

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Speaker 3: was a taxi, but Preston's like, I have to get

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Speaker 3: you the right kind of taxi.

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Speaker 2: I feel a lot of pressure about it. I had

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Speaker 2: to be a black car like Big, or a tax.

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Speaker 1: A black card like Big. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: He's like, I'm not letting you get out of here

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Speaker 3: in a minivan, no offense. He's like, you just deserve it.

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Speaker 1: But he was just.

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Speaker 3: That's so Miranda Minivan, so good about he just and

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Speaker 3: Preston was like all right, like you know, people kept

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Speaker 3: coming up and taking pictures. Anyways, we don't spend too

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Speaker 3: much time on it. But he was such a good

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Speaker 3: husband in that moment. He just would not take stop

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Speaker 3: taking He's like, we got a walk again, any more arms,

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Speaker 3: any more movement for the shot?

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Speaker 1: Like it was amazing, so good at taking photos. I

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Speaker 1: know it was awesome. So was this his idea or

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Speaker 1: was it your idea?

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Speaker 3: Well, he was floored that I had never been well,

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Speaker 3: I can't believe that's what I was going to say,

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Speaker 3: I know, but it's almost like, I don't know I

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Speaker 3: needed it.

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Speaker 2: It was it too close chapter of a book, end

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Speaker 2: of you know how you don't like to read the

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Speaker 2: end of a book.

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Speaker 3: Maybe I think I just wanted to be in a

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Speaker 3: really like a good place in life or something.

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Speaker 1: I know that's silly, but I I don't know.

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Speaker 3: It's just so it was so meaningful, and it was

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Speaker 3: the love's tenth birthday trip and we both did like

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Speaker 3: bucket list things. We neither of us had ever seen

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Speaker 3: a Broadway production at Gershwin, so that was my first

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Speaker 3: Gershwin and her first Gershwin together. And it just feels

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Speaker 3: better when things are you're not just checking them off

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Speaker 3: the list, which, by the way, you saw Wicked, we did,

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Speaker 3: and I ended up I ended up watching Wicked for

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Speaker 3: good oh good second one. And I was making pizza

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Speaker 3: because we're big into making pizzas now, because I know

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Speaker 3: I needed to make her It is so fun and

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Speaker 3: get the kids into it.

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Speaker 1: It's great.

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Speaker 2: But while we were making the pizza, that scene came

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Speaker 2: on and I'm like, oh, come on, oh good. It

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Speaker 2: didn't bother me for a minute neither, and it didn't

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Speaker 2: bother me. I just understand. Yes, a five year old,

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Speaker 2: it could be a little, of course, but it did

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Speaker 2: it bother me either. I just remember going Jolie saying,

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Speaker 2: oh they're kissing. No, yeah, that she comprehended that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the thing.

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Speaker 4: I mean, really, what five year old is really comprehending

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Speaker 4: what that was?

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Speaker 2: Insinuating more of Again, if it was Elsa, it would

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Speaker 2: be a different I would be more exactly. I agree,

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Speaker 2: absolutely wicked taste. I thought it was tastefuly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I loved that movie so good.

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Speaker 2: I need to go back and watch because we The

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Speaker 2: problem is is we did it in like a five

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Speaker 2: long too, so yeah, and you just want to see

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Speaker 2: the whole story, you know, like we take the baby,

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Speaker 2: which there comes a judgment, but we took Wyane with

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Speaker 2: us to go watch it, and so there was a

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Speaker 2: couple of parts. Even we've watched it at home, I've

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Speaker 2: been like, oh, I didn't even get to see that part, right,

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Speaker 2: you know, just busy all right, back to your trips.

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Speaker 3: Anyways, it was weird. It was we left lying girl

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Speaker 3: behind and that was the best thing we've ever done.

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Speaker 3: She's not old enough to get into Wicked. So that

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Speaker 3: was our deciding factor, which, by the way, no pun intended, which.

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Speaker 1: Which has to do with the post, has to do

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Speaker 1: with the post. Uh oh.

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Speaker 2: When I read your post saying this was the last

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Speaker 2: trip we're not doing with Lyon, mm hmm, but like, really, no, really,

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Speaker 1: She's she's at the age.

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Speaker 3: It's like we forget, right, we forget that they're little

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Speaker 3: humans that are like understanding, digesting feelings in English. Sure,

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Speaker 3: like legend's been guilty, so it's a European thing. No,

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Speaker 3: like I'm saying without her, like either it's all kids

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Speaker 3: at home or it's all kids with us.

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Speaker 4: But understood why you did it. She's just a little

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Speaker 4: too young for New York.

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Speaker 3: And and I thought, listen, the weather typically in January,

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Speaker 3: I thought, if we're dealing with snows and strollers and

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Speaker 3: car seats, I can't lot. Those big kids absolutely impressed me.

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Speaker 3: I have never been more proud of them. They walked,

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Speaker 3: We did that. I'd never walked the Brooklyn Bridge before.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, we walked to the Brooklyn Bridge together, and

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Speaker 3: we were all a little scared, could get a nervous

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Speaker 3: about heights except for data, and it was just incredible.

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Speaker 3: So it just was hard because I missed her, and

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Speaker 3: so selfishly I facetimed home.

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Speaker 1: Do you want this is embarrassing. I shoudn't even say

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Speaker 3: Preston was like, I can't believe you just did that,

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Speaker 3: Like even I would never do that. Oh god, what

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Speaker 3: I didn't just FaceTime? I face timed her from the

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Speaker 3: Museum of ice Cream.

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Speaker 1: Oh, Kristin. They were in the sprinklepool President's of course,

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Speaker 2: It's like if I facetimed roman A, like I don't

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Speaker 2: know a monster truck.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like it's not fun to show. Yeah, look where

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Speaker 1: And the kids are eating.

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Speaker 3: I was legend her doing snow angels and sprinkles, and

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Speaker 3: she just was like you could just see her devastation.

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Speaker 3: And I've just never seen her actually have hurt feelings.

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Speaker 3: but I've never seen something kind of like hit and

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Speaker 1: And then we.

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Speaker 3: Flew Dada and Legend flew onto Tampa to the other

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Speaker 3: half of the duo, and Love and I came home

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Speaker 3: in Jesus name, and then she had mandatory cheer living

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Speaker 1: And we flew to Tampa that next night and that

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Speaker 3: That was, guys. Another admittance. I brought sickness to someone

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Speaker 3: else's house knowingly. Well, no, I didn't know, and I

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Speaker 1: Just still.

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Speaker 3: I thought something different. It was something different, Janna, I

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Speaker 3: wanted to die, poor thing.

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Speaker 1: You've been in it. We've been so in it. We

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Speaker 1: did eight days of belly fleu. Oh, just g.

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Speaker 3: It was out of It was out of like a

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Speaker 3: Will Ferrell movie, the kind of you know, like it's

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Speaker 1: And then we got over that.

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Speaker 1: Other side of that. But I felt so bad.

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Speaker 3: Chris and Caitlin might be the most patient humans on

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Speaker 3: the planet because they were like, it's not like you

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Speaker 3: were finding voluntarily. No, but that's still just we're in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well nothing you can do.

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Speaker 3: overcompensate because I felt so bad. But all in although

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Speaker 3: you like the family aspect of the closeness, do you

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Speaker 1: Are you good? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: We needed it, Yeah, we really needed it. And I

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Speaker 3: It's just interesting because I feel like Love is hitting

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Speaker 3: Ten and I don't want to get emotional talking about this,

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Speaker 1: Getting so big, yeah, but then there's so little.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes it's like precious And I knew, I just knew

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Speaker 3: And I thought, God, what would it feel like if

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Speaker 3: And we went to a vintage shop and she picked

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Speaker 3: And I know it's just then down to logistics, right

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Speaker 3: if you're traveling in groups, and it's eight people at

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Speaker 3: of us just travel so similarly together that we just

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Speaker 3: rocked and it was awesome. So I'm really really grateful.

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Speaker 3: I got to sit next to her doing Wicked, We

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Speaker 4: I just think preserving those family trips are so important,

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Speaker 4: especially as they get older, because they always want to

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Speaker 4: bring a friend, and there's going to be trips where

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Speaker 4: you do have friends. But like we just went to

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Speaker 4: We're and it's the most we've connected in a very

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Speaker 4: core family trips are absolutely my favorite memories, favorite moments,

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Speaker 4: even if they're fighting the whole time. It doesn't even matter,

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Speaker 4: you know, like it's just I would always preserve those

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Speaker 4: it was, and why she wanted to make changes. And

442
00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:23,399
Speaker 4: I'm like, you're stunning, but you don't look like you. Yeah,

443
00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:24,120
Speaker 4: you probably you don't.

444
00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:24,560
Speaker 1: You don't.

445
00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,159
Speaker 4: You're a different looking person. And they may love that,

446
00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,879
Speaker 4: and that's fine, and that's for them. That would be

447
00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:32,399
Speaker 4: hard for me when you start doing all the things

448
00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,440
Speaker 4: and the nose and that, and then you don't even

449
00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,240
Speaker 4: look like how you did a couple of years. You

450
00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,439
Speaker 4: know that, that would just be really hard for me.

451
00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:41,920
Speaker 4: I think we're recognizing myself about.

452
00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:45,359
Speaker 3: Whitney from real lives of Mormon wives.

453
00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:45,880
Speaker 2: Don't.

454
00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,240
Speaker 1: I can't figure her. I can't figure that with yes,

455
00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:49,400
Speaker 1: I can't figure that one I.

456
00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,439
Speaker 3: Was like blown away I wouldn't have recognized that that

457
00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,400
Speaker 3: was her. You don't think it was just wait, No,

458
00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,760
Speaker 3: something in her face is so different, and listen, she's

459
00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,800
Speaker 3: I've always thought she was really beautiful, and I think

460
00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:02,920
Speaker 3: she's beautiful now. But there's something she's.

461
00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,159
Speaker 4: So I thought that too, but I had not watched

462
00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:08,000
Speaker 4: the third season. And then I watched the third season,

463
00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,800
Speaker 4: and you can slowly see it changing, and I do

464
00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,399
Speaker 4: now think the majority of it was just wait, you do.

465
00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,560
Speaker 4: And I didn't think that at first because it was

466
00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:21,320
Speaker 4: so drastically different. There are something other thing, probably some

467
00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,960
Speaker 4: filler or botox or something. But to me now as

468
00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,080
Speaker 4: you watch her losing weight through the season just a

469
00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,560
Speaker 4: little bit gradually, and then where she's at now, to me,

470
00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,480
Speaker 4: the majority absolutely feels like she just lost a lot

471
00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:34,440
Speaker 4: of weight in her face.

472
00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:35,160
Speaker 1: I guess we.

473
00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,360
Speaker 3: Don't know her not pregnant either, at least I don't, right.

474
00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:38,359
Speaker 1: I have a question.

475
00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:42,760
Speaker 2: And this is just me being like Devil's advocate, and

476
00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:46,720
Speaker 2: we're not those girls to talk about other people's like

477
00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:52,199
Speaker 2: faces and wait or what they've gotten done. It's not

478
00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,600
Speaker 2: coming off in like a judge way, is it that were?

479
00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,480
Speaker 3: I don't think so, so I just I think that

480
00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,439
Speaker 3: we've lost the art of like really and I have

481
00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:02,760
Speaker 3: like I'm just taking accountability for like.

482
00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:04,320
Speaker 1: And I was thinking that same thing.

483
00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,720
Speaker 4: And I truly don't think that we are being I

484
00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,919
Speaker 4: think we're very because again, no stunning.

485
00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:11,960
Speaker 1: You know, everyone I'm talking about or.

486
00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,879
Speaker 4: Thinking about I actually think are like the most beautiful

487
00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,000
Speaker 4: people in the So I hope it doesn't come off

488
00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:17,560
Speaker 4: that way.

489
00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,960
Speaker 2: Like I want you to do you want to do

490
00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:23,439
Speaker 2: bo talks to bow talks and foh herd isn't for

491
00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,359
Speaker 2: me because I want to move my face when I

492
00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:29,160
Speaker 2: move but or like when I act or whatever. But yeah,

493
00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,720
Speaker 2: it's not and the fillers of the people that are

494
00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,560
Speaker 2: doing it, I don't want it to I don't. I

495
00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:38,040
Speaker 2: think we in a society we go what did Whitney

496
00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:39,960
Speaker 2: do to her face? Instead of she looks beautiful?

497
00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:41,760
Speaker 1: No, and I did. I was like, that's the only

498
00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:42,560
Speaker 1: thing I'm just calling out.

499
00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,800
Speaker 2: I'm not calling that, not even saying I'm just saying like,

500
00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,440
Speaker 2: as a society, we fall into that trap of going

501
00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,199
Speaker 2: what just happened here? And I think that's where it's like,

502
00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:53,520
Speaker 2: why can't we just be like this person looks beautiful?

503
00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:54,760
Speaker 2: Why do we have to say, oh, they did a

504
00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,680
Speaker 2: GLP one or you know what I mean. Yes, agree,

505
00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:58,600
Speaker 2: it's the only thing.

506
00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:00,399
Speaker 1: That I think one of the reasons we do that.

507
00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,080
Speaker 4: And this is just being completely and it's not like

508
00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,480
Speaker 4: a against I.

509
00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:07,840
Speaker 1: Love this discussion.

510
00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,280
Speaker 4: To me though, I looked at that and go, man,

511
00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:16,080
Speaker 4: look at that, like she is. She's such a beautiful person,

512
00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,960
Speaker 4: always has been. I think she is absolutely stunning. So

513
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,600
Speaker 4: when I'm and when she what before whatever the before

514
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,560
Speaker 4: and after are I don't know, but I look at

515
00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,199
Speaker 4: that and I go, you know, part of me, if

516
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,639
Speaker 4: I'm being completely honest, is like, wait, how did she

517
00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:31,639
Speaker 4: do that? You know?

518
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:32,040
Speaker 1: And not?

519
00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,000
Speaker 2: And I get it, like judge, I need to do

520
00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,480
Speaker 2: I look like my wrinkles. When I see ninety percent

521
00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:44,240
Speaker 2: of the women having a glossy, non botox forehead, there's

522
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,280
Speaker 2: a piece of me that's like, oh that looks so pretty.

523
00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,440
Speaker 2: I look old and worn because I haven't done botox.

524
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:49,680
Speaker 3: YEP.

525
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:54,040
Speaker 2: So that's where I think where I highlight looking at

526
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 2: other people. But then I draw back to well, know,

527
00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,760
Speaker 2: like I want to believe that this is pretty too,

528
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 2: instead of reading a comment being like, God, she looks

529
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,640
Speaker 2: rough because she hasn't had like that's where I think

530
00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,200
Speaker 2: the society goes. If you have wrinkles, you look rough,

531
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:15,159
Speaker 2: If you have a frozen forehead, you're overdoing it and

532
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,359
Speaker 2: you're just like trying to fit into society. So it's like,

533
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 2: why can't we just be like you look beautiful, you

534
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:19,560
Speaker 2: look beautiful.

535
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:23,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think for me, my ownership, it's fully me

536
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 3: saying this about myself. I have been really hard on myself,

537
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:32,560
Speaker 3: really hard on myself, and just recently I've gone because

538
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,359
Speaker 3: of the Julia Roberts and the Sara Jessica Parker's and

539
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,919
Speaker 3: the Kate Winslet's and the Pamela Anderson. You know, not

540
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,239
Speaker 3: that she didn't do something along the way, but like

541
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 3: there's something about just owning who we are and our

542
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:51,159
Speaker 3: best versions of us and stop the comparison, comparison, the

543
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 3: copy pasting of treatments and all of the things, Like

544
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 3: and I have just needed to I've needed to get

545
00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,520
Speaker 3: to this place for myself for a while. Like, I mean,

546
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:02,720
Speaker 3: I get comments all the time like how do you

547
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 3: sit next to Jana Kramer. It's like she's stunning. I

548
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 3: mean truly. That was part of the conversation we had

549
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,440
Speaker 3: about celebrities, even yesterday that you seem to get pretty

550
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:11,160
Speaker 3: as you get older.

551
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 1: Everyone agreed, would you like to know that? Yeah?

552
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 3: No, Like our whole room was like no, Like, so

553
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:21,919
Speaker 3: it's there is something I just feel like, I know

554
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 3: I have friends in my hometown that also are doing

555
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,160
Speaker 3: this game, and it's just not fair to any of us.

556
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 3: Like it's okay to do what makes you feel good,

557
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 3: which is kind of our motto always I think is

558
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 3: a try all of a sudden, like I got boobs,

559
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 3: Like I can't say anything against plastic surgery. You want

560
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 3: to get your nose and get your nose done, you

561
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 3: know what I mean?

562
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:45,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I've lived, moved do that, but yeah, you

563
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:46,879
Speaker 2: know sure got them done.

564
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I and I don't.

565
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,359
Speaker 3: I just admire greatly the women that can stand in

566
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 3: the skin that they were given and just go because

567
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 3: I there's been times where I don't know if I

568
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 3: can even do that, you know.

569
00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,040
Speaker 4: But I think you can say that and say I

570
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 4: feel like I admire people who don't do these things

571
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,679
Speaker 4: to themselves, and that does not mean we're judging the

572
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 4: people that do.

573
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'm still a person that I think

574
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:14,880
Speaker 2: I'm just highly more like I because I all get

575
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 2: the comments of like, oh, she looks for off for

576
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 2: this or what is or what is she doing blah

577
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 2: instead of you know, going like when we when the

578
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 2: Whitney thing came up, it's like, why can't we just

579
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,399
Speaker 2: became that being like what did she do? Instead of

580
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 2: you know, I don't know, I just like it's the

581
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 2: conversation of highlighting something when it's just why is that

582
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:32,640
Speaker 2: a conversation?

583
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 1: But I see what you're saying, Yeah.

584
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's just gets a societal question, yeah, which

585
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 4: I don't know.

586
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 3: And it kind of always has been. Do you just

587
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 3: remember it wasn't social media driven. I remember flipping through

588
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,360
Speaker 3: magazines when we were young and it would be like, oh,

589
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,159
Speaker 3: so and so steps out for the first time, but

590
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,360
Speaker 3: it was like a paper printed article and were keeping

591
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 3: up in real time with what these people are doing whatever. Right, Yeah,

592
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 3: it's but it's it goes back to even the weight

593
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 3: things too, like if they had a little bit of

594
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 3: a bump, she must be pregnant or maybe she just

595
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,920
Speaker 3: a little bit like I've always had a little poach. Yeah,

596
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 3: well pre you know, yeah, testosterones really helped. Oh good,

597
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 3: I was like pre what I've always liked.

598
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 2: But I mean like I've I've never once I did

599
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 2: a gut cleanse and like testosterone, working out and change

600
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 2: eating habits a little bit. I don't have that bloat anymore.

601
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:18,639
Speaker 2: It's wild.

602
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:19,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. Good.

603
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,439
Speaker 3: Anyways, I love women. I just want to say that.

604
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 3: I really just I wasn't going yeah, I just really

605
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 3: love like, I just think women are really truly so beautiful.

606
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,120
Speaker 1: And I'm just really proud of us for whatever way.

607
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 2: We're navigating it, because we while into the trap of

608
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 2: going what did she do?

609
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 1: I do want to know what she did? So still

610
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 1: she's stunning.

611
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 2: Anything to whine about it, ladies, Oh man, I can,

612
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 2: but I want you to Catherine take it away. I don't.

613
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 1: I know.

614
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 3: I'm pinnion mine because I have to get my hormones

615
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 3: in check. This is a real tricky week for me

616
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:10,639
Speaker 3: to navigate.

617
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 1: Me very good is just not very kind of boring.

618
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:15,679
Speaker 2: That's okay, what do you got kick and bore it.

619
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 2: Let's see it.

620
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 1: We'll take it over your the spice department. What do

621
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,439
Speaker 1: you got kick? Okay?

622
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 4: So obviously I was like running a little bit late

623
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 4: today and we've talked about this because you've changed doctors,

624
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 4: like in the past, like pediatricians, right, yes, I have. Yeah,

625
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,880
Speaker 4: So my complaint today is about my doctor, my daughter.

626
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 4: My doctor's appointment with my daughter today.

627
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 2: Did you go to the one that I used to

628
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 2: go to? Yes, Okay, we have left that, which I

629
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 2: still like her. Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna say I

630
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:44,479
Speaker 2: still like her.

631
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:49,880
Speaker 4: But I just was just really frustrated today because it's.

632
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,119
Speaker 1: What vaccine did she push on you? Well, I had

633
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 1: already decided to do and we've on board it.

634
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've already decided to do this vaccine.

635
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,439
Speaker 1: So and that's you and we can talk about that.

636
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 1: That's fine.

637
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 4: I know it's a very controversial one and I have

638
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 4: gone back and forth part of it. Yeah, this is

639
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 4: part of But I did decide to get Caden the

640
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 4: HPV vaccine after he was fifteen, so he had to

641
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 4: do three doses of it, which was unfortunate because they're

642
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 4: pretty uncomfortable, like they hurt a good bit. So we

643
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 4: had already done the three and I you know, i'd

644
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:21,959
Speaker 4: gone back and forth on how I felt about it,

645
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 4: you know, all the things. But she had definitely, like

646
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 4: had she had been the one who had convinced me,

647
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 4: even though she's not Caden's doctor. Caden's doctor is in

648
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,439
Speaker 4: the practice, but not the same doctor she had already

649
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 4: kind of not guilt tripped me, but.

650
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 2: You told her that like your child got in your

651
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,439
Speaker 2: infection because I didn't give him a vaccination.

652
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 1: On board. And this is where the comment section really

653
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: spices that.

654
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 4: This is why I was like, well, I'll talk about

655
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 4: this because I say that wasn't even guilt me for

656
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,919
Speaker 4: not knowing what vaccine.

657
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 2: And I know you were a doctor, and that's fine.

658
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 2: The doctors will remember there, They're like they they're knowledge,

659
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,159
Speaker 2: they have all the knowledge. I okay, fine, and I

660
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 2: want more time and.

661
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 4: I still just need as I get well, that's the

662
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 4: hard part and that's part of like my frustration is like,

663
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 4: you know, I gave it more time with Caden, but

664
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 4: then since it was after fifteen, which how does that

665
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 4: make sense? I need someone to explain to me why

666
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 4: a fifteen is just this magical age they've decided now

667
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 4: you have to have three shots instead of two.

668
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: That makes no sense to me. That's stupid, right, But.

669
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,239
Speaker 4: I was already waiting because I knew this was the

670
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 4: one because she's fourteen where we were probably gonna have

671
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 4: to do gardasil. But we walk in and they have

672
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 4: the little finger prick thing, and she is deathly afraid

673
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 4: as a fourteen year old of this freaking finger prick,

674
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 4: which she has had to do two or three times,

675
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 4: because about a year and a half ago, I was

676
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 4: worried that she had leukemia. It was like a whole thing, yes,

677
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 4: and it was like traumatized by it. Right, So we

678
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 4: did a full CBC and her white blood cell count

679
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 4: was a little low, but everything else looked fine. They

680
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 4: weren't concerned. So then we reran it. It was still

681
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 4: a little low, but they still weren't concerned. It ended

682
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 4: up that it was not bruises on her body that

683
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 4: scared me. Ended up being like an acid burn from

684
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 4: a lime. Interesting, look that up. That's a whole other thing.

685
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 4: But I've always been slightly worried about her white blood

686
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 4: cell count. So when we go in today, I wasn't

687
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 4: going to ask for it because I know Emmy was

688
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 4: just like traumatized by these two finger pricks. But I

689
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 4: was like, I won't ask. I think everything's probably fine,

690
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 4: she hasn't been sick, you know whatever.

691
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 1: But the right when we walk.

692
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 4: In, the little finger prick thing is just sitting there.

693
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 4: So she's like anxious the whole time, right, and then

694
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 4: they want to do like the whole depression and anxiety thing,

695
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 4: and she's over here all she can think about. It's

696
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 4: like it's like, well, she's very anxious right now. Yeah,

697
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 4: But anyway, so they do they do the thing. I mean,

698
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 4: she immediately starts crying before she even gets it. It's

699
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 4: not even when she gets it. It's like the anxiety

700
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:46,719
Speaker 4: leading up to it, but she gets the prick. I guess.

701
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,479
Speaker 1: No, it's very syndrome all this.

702
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 4: I mean, she gets like bawling before it even and

703
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 4: then she let me gets it that She's like, it's

704
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 4: not bad, but she's like bawling, you know, and I'm like, okay,

705
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 4: so it's like it doesn't hurt.

706
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 1: She's like before here, yeah, but of course.

707
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 4: She cried for like thirty minutes after, but it's fine anyway.

708
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 4: So I'm like, in the back of my head, I

709
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 4: was like, she really needs to take this artistical shot

710
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 4: today because she cannot take three, Like I cannot make

711
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 4: her take three, so I have got to like make that.

712
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 4: So honestly, the pressure was more myself. I knew that

713
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 4: she would add that third one for some reason hurts

714
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 4: even more like Kayden said, they progressively hurt more like

715
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 4: even Kayden like hurt for a while. So anyway, so

716
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 4: she whatever, and I'm like, Okay, godnessil's going to come up.

717
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: We're just going to do this. It's going to be fine, right.

718
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 4: Well, then she comes in and she's like, okay, so

719
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 4: something's like weird with the CBC and I'm like, oh,

720
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 4: it's her white blood cell count low again, and she's like, no,

721
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 4: remind me of what. And I was like, I remember,

722
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 4: we went through all this blah blah. So it's back up,

723
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 4: thank thank god. But something else had flagged. And she

724
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 4: sits there and she's like, I mean, I'm not worried

725
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 4: about it, but if you're worried about it.

726
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 1: We should rerun it. And I was like, I don't

727
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 1: know what to be worried about. I don't know correct

728
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: what you're even saying.

729
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like she's like, the white blood cell is normal range,

730
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 4: it's fine, but these something that starts with an M

731
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 4: is flagging.

732
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I don't know what that means.

733
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 3: And so she give you like any sort of because

734
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 3: sometimes they'll say which could sometimes be, she said.

735
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 1: She said it could.

736
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 4: Mean that maybe she's like starting to fight off like

737
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,959
Speaker 4: a viral infection, which is what they say for the

738
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 4: CBC all the time, because that is kind of a

739
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 4: marker for like a viral whatever. Sure, but I'm like,

740
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 4: once again, this tells me nothing. So she says it again,

741
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 4: and she's like and I'm like just sitting there, and

742
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 4: she's like, if you're worried, and I'm like, well, now

743
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 4: I'm worried.

744
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: I'm not not worried, right, I'm like, well.

745
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 4: Now, yeah, I'm worried because you're sitting here saying well,

746
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 4: you're worried.

747
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 3: And I'm like talking in front of someone who fully

748
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 3: understands what we're saying. It already is sweating.

749
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 4: Exactly, even though she apparently had tuned out this entire

750
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 4: conversation because I had to like restaring needle that will

751
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 4: yet there.

752
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 2: But it's like you know when you get blood work

753
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 2: and it's like, oh, you probably just were coming down

754
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 2: with a little cold right before, right, is normally what

755
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 2: like he would say like you're fine, right, It's where

756
00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 2: it's like not cause for alarm, right right, which is

757
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 2: what we need. Right then our heads go too, well,

758
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 2: what should we be worried?

759
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 1: But she kind of started that way.

760
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 4: She's like, I'm not worried, but if you're worried, and

761
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:10,719
Speaker 4: I'm like and then she said that twice and I

762
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 4: was like, well, now I'm worried, so I guess we're

763
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 4: gonna run it again. Yeah, and she's like I could

764
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 4: just be the machine whatever, and I'm like how, but okay, okay,

765
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 4: that's fine. So Emmy has tuned this all out because

766
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 4: she's actually filling out like a form or whatever. So

767
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 4: then I'm like, she's like, so, what's happening? And I

768
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 4: was like, well, did you not hear that conversation? She's

769
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 4: like no, and I was like, well, we're a little

770
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 4: worried about flagging, which doesn't worry her. She's like, okay,

771
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 4: so I'm sick, you know whatever, but we're going to

772
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 4: have to do it again. So she starts bawling again.

773
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 4: So we had to redo the thing anyway, and then

774
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 4: we took the Garda soil shot. It was all like

775
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 4: a whole traumatic experience, but that was just my complaint.

776
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 4: I'm like, don't, like, I need some more confidence in this,

777
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 4: and I understand that there are questions, sure, but also

778
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 4: don't sit me there. And basically she was putting it

779
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 4: on me, right, she was putting it on me to go,

780
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 4: but if you're worried, then we'll take this. And so

781
00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:59,719
Speaker 4: I finally looked at her and I go, no, no, no,

782
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 4: I need you to tell me if we need to

783
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 4: retake it. And I was just really, I was like,

784
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 4: you need to say this worries me, or this doesn't

785
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 4: worry me. Let's just retake it to make sure good

786
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 4: for you instead of yeah, instead of putting it on me.

787
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 2: You shouldn't have had to have even say exactly.

788
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:14,719
Speaker 4: That's where I was frustrated. And of course they did

789
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 4: it again and everything came back fine. It was the

790
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 4: machine and everything was fine, but I'm like, I didn't

791
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 4: have to, like, you know, put her through all of that. Anyway,

792
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 4: I was just like, Okay, this is where I'm getting.

793
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 4: And then side note to all of that, you know,

794
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 4: they just came out with like the different vaccine stuff.

795
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: They sure did.

796
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 4: And literally the day before I had gotten Caden the

797
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 4: freaking meningitis. He had taken both meningitis vaccines, which I

798
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 4: might still be four because meningitis is very, very like

799
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 4: dangerous if you get meningitis.

800
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I was like, are you joking me?

801
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 4: Like, literally the day before I had gotten him the

802
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 4: meningitis vaccine and now they're saying we don't need it.

803
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 3: I'm wondering if there is a little bit of movement

804
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 3: in the doctorhood the medical field, because when we went

805
00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 3: to our last we moved to a brick and mortar

806
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 3: patrician kind of like they're not like by the book,

807
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 3: But I did notice on our last two visits ago

808
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 3: this kind of like, well, if you feel like you

809
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 3: need it, And I'm like, is this maybe, and I'm

810
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:17,760
Speaker 3: giving them gracious assumption.

811
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: Is this their.

812
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 3: Reaction to this, like you have to advocate for yourself

813
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 3: movement that everyone's having, and so that maybe they're more

814
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 3: leaning towards us getting the care that we feel we

815
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 3: deserve instead of being because a confident doctor can sometimes

816
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 3: come off as disregarding You're worrying.

817
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, like I remember when I brought my worries

818
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 2: and concerns. She laughed at me like, oh, these people

819
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 2: on the internet, I have such misinformation. I'm like, well,

820
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 2: I would just like to know the information then, yeah,

821
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 2: you know, and not to me to feel stupid that

822
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 2: I'm looking into other research for why my six months

823
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 2: old six month old needs all.

824
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 3: This right right, yeah, I'm going to read till to

825
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:55,879
Speaker 3: my doctor friend and ask her because I do feel

826
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 3: like there's more of a movement recently, like you have

827
00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 3: to advocate for yourself.

828
00:34:58,960 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: These are the things you want to ask.

829
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 3: Like We've even talked to people on you know, adult

830
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 3: education and it said like this is the blood test

831
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 3: that you need to ask for specifically or whatever, and so.

832
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 4: See, that's what I need more of. My thing is

833
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 4: is I personally don't need someone that's like, well, whatever

834
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 4: you want to do, Like I need some direction here.

835
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 4: And I am still a vaccinator. My kids have had

836
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 4: their vaccines. Now we don't do flu, and we don't

837
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 4: do COVID. I did COVID, the kids don't, you know.

838
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 4: But I like, you know, I like doing my own research.

839
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 4: But at the same time, I do still need a

840
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 4: doctor that's like giving me an expert.

841
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 2: So I followed doctor green Mom on Instagram, and I

842
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 2: love her insight.

843
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 1: She's a neutral.

844
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 2: She's like, she's like she I always love how she

845
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 2: entered starts her video. She's like, Hi, you know, I'm

846
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 2: neutral when it comes to vaccines. If you want to

847
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 2: vaccinate that that's wonderful. If you don't, that's wonderful. I'm

848
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 2: just here to give you information. And she's really down

849
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 2: the middle with a lot of her stuff. So doctor

850
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 2: Green mom shout out to her. So she talks about

851
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 2: I mean, all the different vaccine vaccinations, what it means,

852
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 2: like it's I'm sure she talks about the GARDI soole one,

853
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 2: but she's she's great. Yeah, and she is just factual

854
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 2: on kind of both sides.

855
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I do think for me, at least, like

856
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 4: with vaccines and stuff, it is, I think that there

857
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 4: are negatives to not and negatives to doing, and I

858
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 4: just think I've just gotten to this place of what

859
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:18,959
Speaker 4: scares me more.

860
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 2: And listen, I'm excited that they have a new thing,

861
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 2: Like there's no reason that a baby needs all these

862
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 2: from my state side, you know, like you said the

863
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 2: first first Jolie, she got them all.

864
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 4: Yeah.

865
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, and I've slowly changed that and I'm really

866
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 2: glad they're seeing and changing. And I think that is

867
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 2: what so many people have wanted to see, that change.

868
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 4: And it's okay to change, Yeah, it's okay to change,

869
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,240
Speaker 4: Like Okay, maybe we don't need this anymore, or maybe

870
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 4: we do, or hey, maybe it's not recommended. But like,

871
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 4: meningitis actually still scares me, you know, I mean, going

872
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 4: to college and you get meningitis, Like it's still scared.

873
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 4: Now it's only one of them, and there's like several

874
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 4: meningitis ones you still have, you know, you still have

875
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 4: to get. But anyway, that was my complaint for today.

876
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 4: I was like, I was already the running late and

877
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 4: then she's like, well, you know what if you're concerned,

878
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 4: I'm like, I need you to tell me if I'm concerned, right, yeah.

879
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yes.

880
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 2: Group of parents vows not to buy their seven year

881
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 2: old cell phones until the eighth grade, then surprise them

882
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 2: with land and then they surprise them with land lines.

883
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 2: I love this so much. I actually walked into the

884
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,280
Speaker 2: AT and T store the other day because uh, Santa

885
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 2: had gotten Jolie, had got Jolie a Apple Watch. The

886
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:38,720
Speaker 2: only people she can contact on the phone is me, Alan,

887
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 2: her stepdaddy. I mean sorry, sorry, let me go back

888
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 2: to that heard ad. So yeah, so those are the

889
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,879
Speaker 2: people that she can talk to, and it's been really

890
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 2: nice and she's not you know, there's no games on,

891
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 2: there's not playing anything, but it is nice to have that, Like,

892
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,439
Speaker 2: for example, today she has to get off the bus,

893
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 2: I have a meeting, and you know, I can just

894
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 2: be like, hey, all you good because you're coming to

895
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 2: pick her up for volleyball, you know, and so it's

896
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 2: it's nice to have that communication with her. But I

897
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 2: love the landline idea. I think it's great.

898
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 1: So we have one. We love that we have the

899
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: ones they're using.

900
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 3: Oh really, And I really want them to sponsor me

901
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 3: because I've really spread this word far and wide. It's

902
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 3: called tin can phone. Tin can phone, Okay, they are brilliant.

903
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 3: You can get one that looks like a tin can,

904
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 3: or you can get just an old school regular phone.

905
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 3: It has to be close to a router and it

906
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,280
Speaker 3: runs off the internet, but it has on the app

907
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,399
Speaker 3: you have access to who can call it and who

908
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 3: it can call. They can also down nine one one

909
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 3: from it, which I love. And it's really neat because

910
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 3: you said the times that they can call day and

911
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,760
Speaker 3: night and you can move those. It's just very super

912
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 3: user friendly. And I can't tell you the feeling that

913
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 3: comes over my whole body when the house phone rings.

914
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

915
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 2: I love that, honestly, I will. I want to do

916
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 2: it for the girls in the neighborhood too, because a

917
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 2: lot of the moms were just like yeah, no, yeah,

918
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 2: and then we obviously we can share numbers.

919
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

920
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:02,919
Speaker 3: I'm wondering if you could just not do that because

921
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 3: we actually kind of already did the birthday gift.

922
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 1: Oh okay, wait what.

923
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 2: Fine, got it? Okay, blocked it? Yeah, thank you, thank

924
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 2: you two o'clock. Okay, my ex husband already did the

925
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 2: Jolie birthday gifts. I just think it's sweet because they

926
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 2: can just talk with their friends like we used to do.

927
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: What's the monthly on that?

928
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 3: It's like it's very low, like maybe thirteen ten dollars

929
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 3: a month? Right, Yeah, well great.

930
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 2: My ex husband cheated on me during our marriage, and

931
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:48,240
Speaker 2: now he's marrying the woman he cheated with. We shared

932
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 2: children in their young teen years, and he's asking me

933
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 2: to be kind and welcoming to her for the sake

934
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 2: of the kids. I understand wanting peace for them, but

935
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 2: I don't know how I'm supposed to move on when

936
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,439
Speaker 2: I'm expected to be friendly with the person who help

937
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 2: break my family apart. I don't want to fake it.

938
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,720
Speaker 2: Or betray my own healing. How do you move forward,

939
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 2: set boundaries and protect your kids without forcing yourself into

940
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 2: a version of co parenting harmony that feels dishonest and painful.

941
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 1: Oh that's tough, tough.

942
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 4: I this is probably not going to be a popular

943
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 4: thing to say. I do think though, in my mind,

944
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:27,240
Speaker 4: being kind to someone like that isn't necessarily being fake.

945
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 4: I think that you can keep going with that, be

946
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 4: kind to someone out of maturity. I think that you

947
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 4: can be kind and loving it for other people and

948
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,720
Speaker 4: I in it not again be fake or be messing

949
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 4: up your healing if you have the right attitude around it.

950
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 4: I mean, I think that if you have the wrong

951
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 4: attitude around it, like I feel like I'm being fake

952
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 4: and that is going to mess up with your healing.

953
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,720
Speaker 4: But I think that just out of just being mature.

954
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 4: I think that's just part of being mature sometimes unfortunately.

955
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, And you don't have to give too much of

956
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 2: yourself to it, like you don't have to be overly

957
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 2: because again that's faking it. But if you are who

958
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 2: you are and you stand in your womans listen he

959
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 2: cheated on you, like that's that's not your dude, then

960
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 2: you know, and let her have the cheating husband, you know,

961
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 2: because regardless if he can cheat on you during that

962
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 2: flip it to that.

963
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 3: I promise you that new wife that crosses her mind often.

964
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:34,240
Speaker 2: And it's not like she's getting this totally honest dude

965
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 2: that because that right there doesn't spark. That's not an

966
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 2: honest guy someone that she did when you're married. So

967
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 2: that's what she's getting. Is that what you want? You know,

968
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 2: like she's not getting this amazing great version. Agreed, That's

969
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 2: what I think. Also, I will say from personal experience

970
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 2: having this happen in my childhood, if you are too

971
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 2: vocal about your disc taste for her and what she

972
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 2: did to break up the family, that will filter on

973
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 2: your kids. And I will say, from again personal it

974
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 2: does then cause this energy. And I'll just say I

975
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 2: put up a guard with my dad's x now ex

976
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 2: wife because of it, because of what I knew, and

977
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 2: then what I knew that my mother may have felt better.

978
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 1: Yep.

979
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 4: Well, I mean kids, don't you know, they want to

980
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 4: side with their parents, They want to protect their parents

981
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 4: in an odd way in those times. So at the

982
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 4: end of the day, you're just you're really doing it

983
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 4: more for them. You're doing it for them so that

984
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 4: they don't have to hold this grudge against the other.

985
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 2: No, granted it was I'm not definitely by any means

986
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 2: putting that on my mom because I didn't like how

987
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 2: his last wife treated me regardless, you know what I mean.

988
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 2: So there was a piece of that, But I'm not

989
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 2: gonna say that some of her comments didn't slip into

990
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 2: my mind, you know, or make me taint my decision

991
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,240
Speaker 2: of that relationship, which I think ultimately affected my relationship

992
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 2: with my sisters because it wasn't closely to them, you know.

993
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 2: And there's again, there's regretting pieces of that. So yeah,

994
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,720
Speaker 2: but I'm sorry, and that sucks. And like you're gonna

995
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 2: you're gonna be so much happier without a cheating man.

996
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 3: Well, so make sure you find a perace that you

997
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 3: can say that to someone, like it's a therapist or

998
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 3: a really good girlfriend, because I think it's part of

999
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 3: it is just holding it in and not knowing to

1000
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 3: do with all those feelings. It's like, ugh, greed, Well,

1001
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 3: I'm glad we're all back three together, ladies.

1002
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: Oh I missed you girls. Welcome back. Couldn't be happier

1003
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:45,839
Speaker 3: Right,