1 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: Everybody. Chris Harry with you on a training camp edition 2 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: of Chargers Weekly, a jam packed episode after day two 3 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: with the jackham In Sports Complex, NFL Networks, Cynthia Freeland 4 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: and Alex Marvez of sirius XM NFL Radio join me 5 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: to talk about these twenty nineteen Chargers. But first fifteen 6 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 1: minutes of entertainment with Mike and Ike, Michael Badgeley and 7 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: Isaac rothschell, Well, look what we have here, Ike in 8 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 1: the badger, Isaac and the money Badger. I don't know, 9 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: we're working and Mike and Ike, Yes, sir, we're work 10 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 1: shopping nature of this because I'm telling you this could 11 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: be a show. Isaac Rochelle, Michael Badgeley, Day two a 12 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: Chargers training camp, Fellas, what's up now much? It's exciting 13 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: to be back. We had another beautiful day here in 14 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: southern California, so it's hard not to be excited about 15 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,759 Speaker 1: this season. And just day to day, Isaac was getting 16 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: a little antsy uh, Listen, this is two different experiences 17 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: with camp. Um. I'm excited for the season, but it's 18 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: been a grind. These first two days have been fun 19 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 1: getting back, but it is a grind. Yeah, I mean 20 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: it's hot. Uh, you know, you're trying to get back 21 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: into the flow of things. You can't there's no way 22 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: to mimic like playing out here. You can't do it. 23 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: You can't do it with any type of workout. So 24 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: when you get out here, you're putting different positions that 25 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: you're not used to, so your body reacts differently than 26 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 1: you're used to. So it's a grind and this heat 27 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 1: is different right now. I mean from from OTAs and 28 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: in mini camp, this is a little bit more intense. Yeah, 29 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: don't you feel like we had like we had one 30 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: hot day in OTAs. Yeah, you know, we lived down 31 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: by the beach, so it's like when we come Inland, 32 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: you know, ten degrees out here. But yeah, no, that 33 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: sun's coming down middle of summer. You know it's gonna 34 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: be hot at ep In Racial on the podcast yesterday 35 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: and one of the themes is just everybody knows each 36 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: other man. There's not a lot of new people, not 37 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: a lot of introductions that need to be made. This 38 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: team wonce four games last year. A lot of the 39 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: same characters on the coaching staff and the players are 40 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: here and it's just time to get to work. Yeah, no, 41 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:17,959 Speaker 1: you know, kind of like I guess Ray and A 42 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,399 Speaker 1: P said, a lot of the same faces. Everybody knows 43 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: each other. And one of the bigger things where you 44 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: know we hit on is having that unity as a team. 45 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: And h when you're able to do that with the 46 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: same guys and you know who you're gonna go to 47 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: war with, it's makes it down much easier. It's just 48 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: whether or not you're gonna show up. And I think 49 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: we got the right guys and this organization from the 50 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: top down. Talk to him, Talk to him, I mean, 51 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: and I agree with him. I think like last year, 52 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: so we have the same team, we know that, and 53 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: then you look at how much we were just stuck 54 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: on planes last year. I mean, think about like when 55 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 1: you first came. His first experience really with us was 56 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: being stuck on a plane for eleven Holm, who was bad. 57 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: Yeah today, Yeah you're an Indie rate I was stuck. 58 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: I was out in Indie and you know, it's a 59 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:03,679 Speaker 1: different training camp. I didn't know what to expect. It 60 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: was my rookie season, and then I come out here 61 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 1: for this full season and I kind of feel like 62 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: a rookie again because I didn't know what to expect. 63 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: So I've been here. I've been asking Isaac, you know 64 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: what times lunch with time we're going over to we 65 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 1: wear shoes that walk through it's it's it's different. Yeah, 66 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: it's crazy though, because I feel like you've been here 67 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: for a while though. Yeah, I mean you came to 68 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: the middle of the season like last year. Yeah, week six. 69 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: I remember I was walking around like a ghost, just thinking, 70 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 1: does anybody in this room know my name? The quiet Badger? 71 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: Guess what? They know his name now? And now he's 72 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: got a mullet. Now he's the money badger, and now 73 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: it's like whoa all right, Bade. So we spent some 74 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: time at the draft party, and first of all, how 75 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: crazy was at That was awesome? S that was awesome. 76 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: It's like thousands of fun thousands of charges fans. It 77 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: was like a sea of powder blue. And we were 78 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: talking to badly on stage and I think they put 79 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: up the picture of the mullet. They did after You're like, 80 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: they showed your fifty nine yard field and then they said, oh, 81 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: by the way, this is this is the hair. Due 82 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: is you? And then you told everybody you gotta bring 83 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: it back day. You were a man of your work. 84 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: I mean, you guys setting me up. And I couldn't 85 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: stand in front of those twenty thousand people and then 86 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: come to camp without a mullet. So all right, take 87 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: the hat off, for there was twenty case there were 88 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: twenty thousand people. No, no, no, no, no, but there was. 89 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: There was thousands. I don't know why. I don't know 90 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: that the final number. But it was a seed to 91 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: the ocean. It was awesome. D It was a scene. 92 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: I mean, you were back here in coast to Masa, right, Yeah, 93 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: I was making moves making Jerry got drafted upstairs in 94 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 1: the office. Uh yeah, did you get enough picking? Did 95 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: you get enough notre dame? Guys, holy can you put 96 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 1: the picking? In February, I talked to you about your 97 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: your your off season, and I said, you know, I 98 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: keep seeing Jerry Tillery getting mocked to the Chargers again. 99 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: I just talked to Jerry yesterday for thirty minutes about 100 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 1: the combine. Yeah, and I actually played that, uh like 101 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: the day after he got drafted. It was just surreal. 102 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: It's like almost like he made the pick Listen, That's 103 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: why I was here. I'm joking. I'm definitely not a 104 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: decision maker. If I was, I would never not be 105 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: a charger. You got a lot of golden domes. Yeah, 106 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: and they're showing up. I mean Drew, I was just 107 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: watching him during this practice. I mean he's bawling, Newsome bawling. 108 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: And then Jerry, once he gets these pads on and 109 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: can really play his game, he's gonna ball. The confidence 110 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: that you have, man, you talked about, Hey, being at 111 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: Miami was one thing, but to learn from Adam Valentier, 112 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: you said you got an education in that short time 113 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: spin more than maybe any any of the time in 114 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 1: your life. Yeah, it's one of those things when you're 115 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 1: around somebody like that, you want to soak in as 116 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 1: much as you can. And uh, you know a lot 117 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: of people ask what did you learn kicking wise from Um, Well, 118 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: I say, every kicker kind of has their own style 119 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 1: of kicking. You know, I'm not going to pick up 120 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: what he does on you know, his steps or the 121 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: way he kicks the ball. So it's just kind of 122 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 1: learning how he was around the locker room, how he 123 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: treated everybody in the organization, and just kind of how 124 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: he went about his day, whether it was in training 125 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: camp or during OTAs in mini camp. So it was 126 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: just watching him and learning how he went about the game. 127 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:55,679 Speaker 1: And then you come here and he got two vets 128 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 1: that I walked into with Mike went and Donnie Jones 129 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: and any time with Donnie Yeah no, I mean, you 130 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: know you talk about you know, Donnie was fifteen years 131 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 1: plus and Mike's going into his tenth season. So learning 132 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 1: stuff from those guys, it's you know, you learn the 133 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: professional side with Vinytarian how he goes about his day, 134 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,119 Speaker 1: and then the professional side from Donnie and Mike about 135 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: how you know, enjoy this game, have fun, you know, 136 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 1: take it seriously, but at the same time, know that 137 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 1: you're getting to play a game you love and you 138 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 1: got to enjoy every day. And you you kind of 139 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: came in to a situation where Bosa and Ingram are here. 140 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: You know, right off the bat, you got a pair 141 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: of pro bowlers to learn from them, no doubt. And 142 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 1: it's so easy to learn from them. I tell people 143 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 1: all the time. When you have guys who are really 144 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: athletic and really good and they know what they're doing 145 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 1: and their technicians and understand the fundamentals of the game, 146 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: then they can teach you. You know, some guys are 147 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: just naturally good. They get a sack, They're like, I 148 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: have no clue what I just did them They're like, 149 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: I did this, I swiped, double swipe, and then bent 150 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: whatever it may be. So it's easy to learn from him. 151 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 1: The chemistry in his locker room. Man, you guys have 152 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: a lot of different pockets that just like good friends, 153 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: it seems like outside of just being teammates. Yeah, but 154 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: how does that help on the football field. I think 155 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: it converts completely. Yeah, I think it's a game changer. 156 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: I think it's like, well, one he would probably agree 157 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: with me. I didn't even expect the NFL locker room 158 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: to be like this. I expected it to be very 159 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: business like. And I'm feeling like this is like college again, 160 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: Like I'm really getting to know these guys. There's a 161 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: lot of parallels between like Notre Dame in here. Yeah, 162 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: I mean Notre Dame is a special place. But I'm joking. 163 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: But but you know, like you just don't expect to 164 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: be like, all right, what are you doing after practice? 165 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: Or what are you doing this weekend? Like what are 166 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: your off season plans? You kind of just expect to 167 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: like go to work and then go home. But it's 168 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: been I think a game changer, especially in camp. Like 169 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: I'm talking about the grind and being out here like 170 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: super hot, super tired, and then you got one of 171 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: your good friends, it makes it a lot easier. Yeah, 172 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: And I think one of the biggest changes from college 173 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: as you walk in and you know, guys are married, 174 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: guys have families, they got to go back home to 175 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: after practice is over. So you know, us having such 176 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: we got a pretty young team. You know, you can 177 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: find the right guys to hang out with, and it 178 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: you know, kind of does feel like college again. But 179 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: it's true. You know, it's young dudes kicking it in 180 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: you know, Huntington and Newport HB. And it's it's like, 181 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: if you're gonna enjoy living in Huntington Beach and enjoy 182 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: being in southern California, you want to be enjoying it 183 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: with guys that are like gonna absolutely have your back, 184 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: Guys that you want to be with on the weekends 185 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: that are going to keep you accountable. So, I mean, 186 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: we know how to enjoy living here. We know how 187 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: to get better, uh and be better football players. But 188 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's, like I said, a game 189 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 1: changer having dudes that really care about you. Yeah, and 190 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: taken advantage of everything that Southern California has to offer too. 191 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: What do you think that's in America? It's it's amazing, 192 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 1: no doubt. But one of the things that you guys 193 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,079 Speaker 1: have in comment from off season, you both were featured 194 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 1: on Backstage Chargers and what was funny? First, Isaac, you 195 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: went back to Notre Dame, which was awesome. We'll get 196 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: into it. What was funny? It's like you were I 197 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: think you must have been in Huntington or Newport right 198 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: in HB. How about how about the thing that Charger 199 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: social media team did with you on the beach by 200 00:08:57,880 --> 00:08:59,719 Speaker 1: yourself and I think it was like a holiday. It 201 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: was the was so good, the music by the background, 202 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:07,959 Speaker 1: and it was it was classic and it was just 203 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: it was one of those things where like a media 204 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: teams fire bit. Oh they are Maganet's killing it. They're incredible. Yeah, 205 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: And you know we even touched on that in our 206 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: team meeting before coming out here. They said, what our 207 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: media team has done is gone from this all the 208 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: way up to here and it's it's insane. It's they've 209 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: done an incredible job. But we you know, the team 210 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:29,599 Speaker 1: has to have the personalities on this football team and 211 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: is a success on the football team to actually execute that. 212 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: So it goes a long way having eight Pro Bowlers 213 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: on this team, having guys that come every day to 214 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 1: work and get better. And I tell you, the fans 215 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: are out here in this heat, they see it. One 216 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:46,839 Speaker 1: of the fans yesterday came to me and say, like, 217 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: you know what, doing the high five thing. They look 218 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,079 Speaker 1: you in the eye. They're feeling it. They're feeling the 219 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: bold energy. They're feeling the bold energy. Yeah. But I'll 220 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: tell you, man, it is genular. It's such as such 221 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:58,839 Speaker 1: as YouTube. It's it's a lot of these guys. Man, 222 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,359 Speaker 1: they look you in the eye. They they they're appreciative 223 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: of the fans. And I think that's a big deal. Yeah. 224 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: I think more than anything that has to do with 225 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: retention though, because you're having the same players, I mean 226 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: a lot of times seeing the same fans. Like you're 227 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,319 Speaker 1: starting to build a relationship between the players and the 228 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: fans and I think that's a key factor or winning 229 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: Super Bowls too, because it enhances the entire experience. So yeah, 230 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 1: I think that's been big. So goals, man, we know 231 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: it's it's kind of like Super Bowl or bust in 232 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: your in your eyes, right, But at the same time, 233 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: like you have that, you have that that salty taste 234 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: in your mouth from New England. We've talked about that 235 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: this all season and I think that that's important, right 236 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: to have that going into twenty nineteen. Yeah, I mean, 237 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,319 Speaker 1: I think you're right. The goal is the Super Bowl. Um. 238 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,439 Speaker 1: The saltiness will be there until we get back to 239 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 1: that spot and do what we need to do. Um. 240 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: But I think right now it's kind of the cheesy answer, 241 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 1: but it's true. It's like, all right, how how great 242 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: can we get? Right now? I mean we have pads 243 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:54,719 Speaker 1: tomorrow for the first time, Like how great of a 244 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 1: day is that going to be? And then after that, 245 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: how great of a day is that going to be? 246 00:10:57,760 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: And then you look up at the end of camp 247 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: and you're like, dang, all right, we're ready to play Indianapolis. Well, 248 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 1: you know the way the way I look at it is, 249 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: you know what team doesn't go into training camp thinking, Okay, 250 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 1: we're gonna go run the table and win a Super Bowl. 251 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,959 Speaker 1: It's you know, it's it's it's what, it's what what 252 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: are the Chargers and ourselves gonna do to separate us 253 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: from everybody else. You know, whether that's going one play 254 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 1: at a time, one kick at a time, one game 255 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: at a time, it's what's going to separate us each week. 256 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: And we got a late bye week this week, all 257 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,959 Speaker 1: right this year, so it's it's there's gonna be that 258 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 1: first part of the season. You gotta push yourself and 259 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:36,079 Speaker 1: it's gonna be week to week and you gotta go 260 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: one play at a time, one game, one game. It's 261 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a grind. But it's genuinely what separates 262 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: us from everybody else because right now everyone's saying, yeah, 263 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: we're gonna go to the super Bowl. Yeah, like that 264 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: parody in this league too. I mean, we talked about 265 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: some of the games that you guys lost that you 266 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: could have won, some of the games you won that 267 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: you could have lost. There's so many variables throughout the 268 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 1: course of a season that you don't know. You have 269 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: no idea how how a season's gonna You can just 270 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:04,439 Speaker 1: control what you can control. And one of the things 271 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: coach said earlier in the week, it's like these guys 272 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: can control their effort, they can control their approach, they 273 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,559 Speaker 1: can control their preparation, and it seems like that that 274 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: message has taken the heart. Yeah, and I think a 275 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: lot of that has to do with having key vets. 276 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: So he said we had a super young team, which 277 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: we do, but you look at some of the vets. 278 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 1: We have Thomas Davis, this dud's I'm playing fifteen years. 279 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 1: So what can you learn from him about how to 280 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,199 Speaker 1: have a great routine? You learned it from Vinitary. What 281 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:30,839 Speaker 1: can I do to be the best kicker and have 282 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: a great routine to be the best kicker? So I 283 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: think that's where it starts too. And then the other 284 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: thing too is if you talk to these young guys, 285 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like you're talking to a rookie or 286 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: you're talking to a second third year guy. Everyone is 287 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: took over to the organization and said, Okay, I'm gonna 288 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: be professional. These young guys gotta taste they gotta taste 289 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: it last year. You guys gotta tasted earlier. Yeah, I 290 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: mean Chenna comes in with that strip sack in Baltimore. 291 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 1: Justin Jones started that game. M Darwin had a great game. 292 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: And you know even guys in their third you're Desmond King, Yeah, 293 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: you know all pro, you know, and then you guys 294 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:08,079 Speaker 1: like ap undrafted guys who you know, kind of set that. 295 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: They set the course for everybody else. It's like, hey, 296 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,439 Speaker 1: didn't matter if you're a first rounder or if you're undrafted. 297 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 1: You know, now you're here, you got to make the 298 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: most of it, right exactly. Fans are getting pretty hype 299 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: for Tray over there. All right, Tray Tray, all righty 300 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: Trey's YouTube games. He's listen, he's he's making a push, 301 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:29,719 Speaker 1: making a push, and I respect it. You know what, 302 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: My girlfriend does YouTube too, So yeah, that's right, that's right, 303 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: respect the push. How's that grand going? She liked that, 304 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: she loves it. She does a really good job. And 305 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: you know, you know what's funny about that is I've 306 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: had people come out of nowhere, Oh yeah, he did 307 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: a video because I did a video video. I watched 308 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: the test. I had people coming from left to field saying, hey, 309 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 1: I saw that fried video of you and your teammate Isaac, 310 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: and I'm like, how did you even find that? Dude? 311 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: The fact that you guys were so confident and so wrong, 312 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: and some of them like, boy, you're wrong, No, you're 313 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: like McDonald's McDonald's it's like Jack in the bus. Well, 314 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,839 Speaker 1: you know, the fries were cold, so it was really 315 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: tough and we can we can both agree. Wiener Schnitzel 316 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: was probably the worst frive ever talking. If you're listening, 317 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 1: you're still a great place. All right, no bad press here, 318 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: all right. Winer Snitchel was average. Not a good fry, 319 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: not at all. What's the best fry? Uh? I think 320 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: McDonald's is always going to be your best friends classic. Yeah, 321 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: it's gotta be if you get served hot fries, assuming, 322 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: assuming they're warm and ready to eat, no doubt. Mickey 323 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: D's not Winer Snitzel. Note, let's chill on the winners. Yeah, 324 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: we're like, all right, we're we're done. Great corn dogs. 325 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 1: Look look, big shows up. We were just talking about 326 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: your your video walking into uh work on a Friday 327 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: when nobody's there. Yeah, the fifth of July. Well, the best, 328 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: the best is that you asked for my permission. I 329 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, sure, I expect what are you gonna say? No? 330 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, Yeah, No I hate following, Yeah no exactly. 331 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: I was kind of just felt I was just as 332 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: surprise by it. But yeah, it was all that extra 333 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: footage from what we did have just Yeah, that was hilarious. 334 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: All right, guys. Final thing message to the fans as 335 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: we get training camp, Starr, we get twenty nineteen rolling. 336 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: I think, first off, show up coming to training camp, 337 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: see us grinding, see what it takes am I looking 338 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: at the camera. Yeah, go for it. Come to training 339 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: camp and see what we're doing. I think a lot 340 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: of people love the games, but this is what makes 341 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: us who we are. So come to training camp and 342 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: support us and then be along with us on the 343 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: road to the super Bowl. We're gonna win some games 344 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: and have some fun. Oh man, it's an exciting time 345 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: to be a Chargers fan. So come on buy check 346 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: us out. It's like I said, it's an exciting time. 347 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: Joined the journey. Hit him with the A sap. Oh, 348 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: a sap an he squad any place? All right? Finished 349 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: with that, Mike, and I finished with that with the 350 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: A sap. I feel like you can't have dread. I 351 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: can't with that without throwing a little curse words in there. 352 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: That's that's hard. Yeah, we've we've actually had this. We've 353 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: had this discussion. That's not allowed to say that we'll 354 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: keep it clean. We're done, We're done. You never know 355 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: who you're gonna see at Chargers camp. Cynthia Freeland, NFL 356 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: Network joins me on day two of Charges training camps. Cynthia, 357 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: what's up? How are you? I'm good. I'm ready for football. 358 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: I'm so ready for football. You had a busy year 359 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: with a ton of stuff. You're doing the af stuff rip. 360 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: I know, but still, but still, it's like football never 361 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: stops for you. What's it like just to be out 362 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: at the NFL camps? You know? I have this like 363 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: false belief that I could go work out right now, 364 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: but it's about one hundred degrees and I certainly could. 365 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: To me, I'm gonna correct you. It's seventy seven, but 366 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: it doesn't feel like seventy seven. It's not seventy That 367 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: is a lie. Whoever told you at seventy seven? They're 368 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: lying and it's like a hundred app I don't want 369 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: to get them a trouble, But it says seventy seven. 370 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: But no, it's hot. It was super humid. It felt 371 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: like we were kind of in the South yesterday. I mean, 372 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: I humidity. I'm from Michigan. I understand this is definitely 373 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: not seventy seven. That's all I'm saying. No, it's hot, 374 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: it's super hot, but it's fun. I'm just I'm glad 375 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,360 Speaker 1: football's back in this team. Twelve and four last year, 376 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: pretty good, huh, pretty good. Yeah, it's pretty good. Results 377 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: a lot of the same characters too. And you talk 378 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 1: about the coaching staff and the roster of your initial 379 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 1: thoughts on the twenty nineteen Chargers two days in. You know, 380 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,640 Speaker 1: I'm excited for this team. I think that I liked 381 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: him last year. I might like you even more now. 382 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: There's some really interesting things developing. I love you know. 383 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: I was actually talking a lot about backup quarterback. Sounds 384 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: like a weird thing to talk about, but I've been 385 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 1: doing the value of backup quarterback now and this team 386 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 1: since your guy never gets hurt, knock on wood, like 387 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: that's amazing but right. But you have to remember it's 388 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: not just on the field. It's also like the prep, 389 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 1: the the ability to run the defense, you know, to 390 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: play against the defense, to be the to imitate the 391 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 1: other team. So I think you you got a good 392 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: one with Tyrod Taylor, and you got a little a 393 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: little controversy brewing here, maybe some Cardale Jones challenging for it. 394 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: Come on, let's got yeah Easton stick Yeah kind of 395 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: three in college. But to go back to Tyro because yeah, 396 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 1: it's it's so important to have a guy that the 397 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 1: security at that position. When you have a roster like this, 398 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 1: how about how about a guy who who's been a 399 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl quarterback forty four starts. I believe under his 400 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: belt knows Coach Lynn from his time in Buffalo, and 401 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 1: he's already kind of jelled with these guys, and he's 402 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: got some wheels too, So if he is thrust into action, 403 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 1: he brings kind of a different dimension. Absolutely. And I 404 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: think also when you're thinking about like think about some 405 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: of the teams with with different types of quarterbacks. You're running, 406 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 1: you're running, you're trying to imitate the offense that and 407 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 1: you have these mobile quarterbacks, and these mobile quarterbacks, Tyre 408 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: Taylor can execute that really well. So the defense, oh, 409 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: we've seen that before. Like we've seen that before, So 410 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 1: I think that's really important. It may not be Flacco 411 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: or car but you know, like a Patrick Mahomes, you 412 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 1: know at Patrick Mahomes, like I mean, obviously Kyler Murray, 413 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: you know these other characters, Lamar Jackson, you know, like 414 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: you see all of these people who are huge, huge 415 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: rushing threats all the time, so you gotta have someone 416 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: who can execute that and show your defense what to 417 00:18:56,840 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 1: do with these NFC North quarterbacks Aaron Rodgers, Mistikey and 418 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 1: I mean, the schedule is tough. It's tough for every 419 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: team because we don't know what's going to happen this year. 420 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: But that's what I wanted to ask you about, because 421 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: as far as analytics are concerned, when you do have 422 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,439 Speaker 1: a roster with little turnover, you bring in a guy 423 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: like Thomas Davis and Tyrod Taylor, and then you see 424 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: teams like the Raiders with so many new faces and 425 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: the Chiefs who have kind of changed their defense a 426 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 1: little bit, a lot, a lot, a lot. A thirty 427 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: four to forty three is a huge difference. They run 428 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: in a ton of new people in the middle, their 429 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,959 Speaker 1: safeties are totally different, the front is other. They've got 430 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 1: one holdover. I mean, that's that's a lot of change. 431 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: Christiane's the only one. What's the starting point for you 432 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: when you look at these rosters and how you kind 433 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: of forecast things going into this upcoming season. Well, luckily 434 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: both the Chiefs, So when you bring in Steve Spagnol. 435 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: There's a lot of history on him. He was a 436 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: head coach, he was defensive coordinator before. Yep. Well, I 437 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: mean and Reid's you know, head coach. But when you 438 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 1: bring in Steve Spagnol's defense and bring that in he 439 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 1: knows Andy Reid can, you can kind of forecast what 440 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: he's going to do. You can see what his forty 441 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: three is likely going to look like given the personnel 442 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: that they have. And then the same thing kind of 443 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: with the Raiders too. It's like Gruden has a lot 444 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: of film and he actually did a lot of things 445 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: similar from when he coached the first time last year. 446 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: I didn't know if that was going to be the case, 447 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 1: but he tried to execute some of those same principles 448 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 1: last season. So luckily there are clues like that. But 449 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: that's why training camp is really important, right, because you 450 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 1: get to see kind of who's jelling with whom and 451 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: how they're working together, and you can see which coaches 452 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: are talking to which players. And now we might not 453 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 1: see very much when we you know, they're not really 454 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: doing anything out here. That's like we haven't hit the 455 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: Pats yet either, right, But there's a practice right now. 456 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: But it's like you can see who's starting to talk 457 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: to each other and like little you know which coaches 458 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 1: are really focusing on which players you can you can 459 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 1: start to see sort of patterns emerge. So talking and 460 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 1: being able to talk to everyone while I'm here is 461 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 1: really great to be like, what's going on with this? 462 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 1: And you can see who they really like and hit on, 463 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: and I can sit here and I can like, you know, 464 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 1: make my plead my case for Northwestern running backs because 465 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 1: I gotta give my you know, I know, we gotta 466 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: give our nerdy alma mater like some love here. So 467 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: that's well in school. Seeing number twenty two out here, 468 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 1: he looks he looks good, and he was thrust into 469 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 1: action last year. And I think his kind of his 470 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 1: welcome to the NFL moment was that second half in Pittsburgh. 471 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,120 Speaker 1: Right to have that I think it was sixty three yards, Yeah, 472 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: have a touchdown, really cared low when Melvine was out 473 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: for that game and beat the Steelers on the road 474 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: on Sunday night, just the Steelers, just Sunday night football. 475 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: Do you think like combined that many people had seen 476 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 1: him playing live because our stadiums pretty small but four 477 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 1: years a thousand yards every year Northwest was all time 478 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: leading Rusher to come to come in and have an 479 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: impact the way that he did, and just his work 480 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 1: ethic and just his want to to get better. You're 481 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 1: you're starting to see that early in training camp here. 482 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 1: You know, look, we don't know what's gonna happen with 483 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: melvine Gourd. Maybe you do. I don't. I don't know 484 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: what's going to happen with him yet. But when you 485 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 1: look at things that are forecasting for success, like something 486 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 1: that's really important to the way this team runs has 487 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,360 Speaker 1: been rushing between the tackles and the ability to take 488 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 1: earned yards by rushing between the tackles, and we saw 489 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,400 Speaker 1: him be able to do that really well last season. 490 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: That Steelers game is what comes to mind initially. So 491 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 1: that's promising at least it's some upside here. And if 492 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: and if you get Melvin Gordon back, great more spoils 493 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 1: right like every that's that's even better. So and in 494 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: the weapons on the outside they change a little bit 495 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 1: with Tyrolle Williams going to Oakland, you're bringing Hunter Henry 496 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: though one hundred percent to go with that combination of 497 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 1: Keen and Allen and Mike Williams, who had eleven total touchdowns. 498 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 1: Tom Telesco said on Wednesday, he's almost looking at this 499 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 1: as a sophomore season for Mike Williams, even though it's 500 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: your three, because he didn't get really any reps in 501 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: year one. Well, you know, you get you do benefit 502 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 1: quite a bit when you Keenan Allen's route running is 503 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: like I do a lot of computer vision. Why I 504 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 1: do a lot of computer vision, and his is almost 505 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 1: like if you were to do the prototype of like, 506 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: which is if you want to see all the routes 507 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 1: in the route tree, just watch Keenan Allen and his 508 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: computer vision. Got it? Got it right? Like You're like, 509 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: that's oh, that's what that's supposed to look like. Got it? 510 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 1: So you're like, what's the curl? Okay? You know, if 511 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: you ever want to learn your routes, if you want 512 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: to go to scouting school, just watch this man run routes. 513 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 1: So it's it's impressive. So it does that will also 514 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: help Mike glimps right, because then you you have Kenyan 515 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 1: Allen's just so good drawing defenses away, and then Michae 516 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 1: Williams be like, hey, yeah, I'm here already, and we 517 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 1: shouldn't forget about Travis Benjamin either, because he was hurt 518 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 1: for most of last year and Coashland said this offseason, 519 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: you know, luckily we didn't need Travis last year because 520 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 1: we had Tyroll, but his ability to stretch the field 521 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 1: and open up, you know, the middle of the field 522 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: for a guy like Hunter Henry or Mike Williams or 523 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: Keenan Allen that speaks volumes as well. I know, it's 524 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: very excited, like this is my favorite time every year 525 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 1: because well everyone's like but it's like, here's my best 526 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:37,719 Speaker 1: and we're gonna go up against your best and it's 527 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,400 Speaker 1: your like. It's it's never like, hey, we have seventeen 528 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: people on IR and this is a problem. You know, 529 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: It's like this is my this is the best I 530 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: can like, this is my best. We got it. But 531 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,199 Speaker 1: the thing about training camp too, every day is going 532 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 1: to be different because things will happen yeah and oh yeah, 533 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 1: and there's gonna be a lot to talk about. Defensively, 534 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 1: we go back to that New England game when you 535 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: when you play with seven dbs because you decimate that 536 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: linebacker position. But it was it was awesome in Baltimore 537 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 1: and again I think you ran into the Super Bowl 538 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: champs in New England. You know, at some point when 539 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: you do have a lot of injuries like that and 540 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: you're you're creating, like there's only so much seven dB 541 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: stuff that you can throw at Josh McDaniels and Tom 542 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 1: Brady and before they're going to try to figure out 543 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 1: some seams in it, right, like so they had seen 544 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: it on film the week before, so it was it was. 545 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: I loved it. I think it's really interesting. It's like 546 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 1: small bottoms, like Golden State Warriors style, Like you know, 547 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna just like out run and go really fast 548 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: paced wise, which is really interesting. But you know, look 549 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 1: it was hard. You know what, Brady, it was done 550 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: by necessity too though, because because you're white, got hurt, 551 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 1: him got hurt. Jatavis Brown was out, so none of 552 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: those guys were available. Now they're all healthy, Denzel comes back, 553 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: Jetavis's back, Drew Rank while you drafted in the fourth round, 554 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 1: and Thomas Davis you're bringing his fifteenth NFL season. I 555 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: was joking with Adrian Phillips yesterday, I said, what's it 556 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: been like working with with t D Because tegos TV 557 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: looks like he's about twenty four right now, I mean, 558 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:00,959 Speaker 1: so does your coach, Like, I think he can take 559 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 1: a couple of snaps if you really, like Coach Lynn, 560 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: I wouldn't put it past coach Linda, give us some 561 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: some tough yardage on on a third and two. No, 562 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: for real, Like I'm actually like, if not kidding either, 563 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 1: like I think like, I'm like, wow, he is in 564 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: the of all the coach Now, there are a couple 565 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: coaches that are in really good shape. He is like 566 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: number one on that list though, Coach King training camp ready? 567 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 1: He what is he even doing all off things? I'm like, 568 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 1: never skip, no days off his workout, no days off ever. 569 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: And you know what his his platform. He's just he's 570 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: been using this platform for good too, to open a 571 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 1: school in Tangent. I know, well, I mean obviously, but 572 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 1: that also side effect great great conditioning conditions. That's amazing. 573 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 1: I want to I know you got, but this defense, 574 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 1: I almost feel like this defense can win this team 575 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: some games this year. When you can list off for 576 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: all pros in Adrian Phillip Stirwin, James Desmond, Kings Kings 577 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: like sneaky ones, you can get to football and as 578 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: your adelaide. Yeah, to bring him in a second round. 579 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: He's really lucky to be able to grow up in 580 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 1: this environment, you know what I mean, like the development 581 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: and being Casey is one of the most cerebral players 582 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: that I've tracked, right, Like I would love to be 583 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: in his head and hear like the if then calculations 584 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 1: of like what he's doing, right, like the decision tree 585 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: for him because it's probably like that's like textbook. I'm sure, 586 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: I mean, you just it just it must be. So 587 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,360 Speaker 1: it's really interesting. So Nacira Adderleie is in a great 588 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: situation to like really succeed in like out performing. You know, 589 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 1: second round is still a great high draft pick, but 590 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,360 Speaker 1: you know he probably wants to be a first round 591 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 1: or like just just like everyone if you were a 592 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: first round you want to be the first pick, like 593 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 1: everybody wants something more. Right now, it's time for all 594 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 1: pro He's like, well all these guys are what what's 595 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 1: upping me? Right? Yeah? Yeawn Jenkins too, he right. He 596 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 1: talked about that because he started uh week sixteen or 597 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: Week seventeen against the Denver Broncos. He started in the playoffs, 598 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: and he has played really well at the free safety position. 599 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 1: So it's not like NASA has to come in earned 600 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: the spot right away, because you guys, you have guys 601 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: like Jalen Watkins and Ray Shawn they're kind of competing 602 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,400 Speaker 1: for that role as well. And then rush and cover 603 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 1: they come together when you have a healthy Joey Bosa in, 604 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: Melvin Ingram and Jerry Tillery coming in. Isaac Raschell, I'm excited. 605 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,160 Speaker 1: I'm interested. I'm excited interested to see Jerry Hillory fitting 606 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: in with this because it's like you, like, I love 607 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 1: that configuration of like two guys on the outside that 608 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: are just going to kill the quarterback and then like 609 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: the back end being so supported. It's a really interesting, 610 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 1: like it's a really smart configuration. And then you add 611 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 1: Jerry Tillery, like that's a that's a really that's a 612 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 1: very compelling case to be a very scared opposing quarterback. 613 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, As we get you out of here, just 614 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: overall NFL storylines, what are you excited to see Because 615 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: we just talked about your camp schedule, You're gonna see 616 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: a lot of teams here over the next couple of weeks. Yeah, 617 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 1: So I think it's interesting, Like football is always like 618 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 1: an EBB and flow. Right, So you have like last season, 619 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 1: we saw the most passes on first down ever, so 620 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: fifty point one percent more than more than fifty percent 621 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: of the play call on first down was a pass 622 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 1: for the first time in NFL history. Well, now you've 623 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 1: got teams that are like going kind of different strategically 624 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 1: direction wise, right, Like you have like we're expecting an 625 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: air raid from the Cardinals type of offense, so lots 626 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 1: of passing very fast, like trying to overcome maybe an 627 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 1: old line that's not as helpful for Kyler Murray. Right. 628 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 1: And then then the other end you have like Bill 629 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson's who are like more focused on it's gonna 630 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 1: be slow eighties style, you know, like bringing in like 631 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: the Greg Roman like we saw for the from the 632 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: forty nine, like it's going to see it. So we've 633 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,679 Speaker 1: got this like bifurcation, like as opposed to everyone kind 634 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: of defaulting to this median. You're gonna have like these 635 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: bifurcation of like some are gonna be slow, it's gonna 636 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: be fast. It's really interesting. So it's gonna be it's 637 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: gonna be To me, that just means your defense has 638 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: to be like more important, maybe even than than you 639 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 1: would originally think, right, because you know you saw last season, 640 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: like you didn't like the Rams had a great front, 641 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: but like you know, they thought people scoring them a lot, 642 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: and so did you saw the same thing with the Chiefs. 643 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: But then you know, ultimately it's it kind of the 644 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: defense has had to it got you there, right, Either 645 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: they didn't end up going making it to the whole 646 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: way because they were good in the first half of 647 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 1: that championship game, right, got flipped a little bit. Yeah, So, 648 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: but my point is is, I think it's gonna be 649 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: interesting to see how you know this ebb and flow. 650 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: Now you just have total strategic different lenses to go in. 651 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: And we have a number of first time play callers 652 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: this year, even like sneaky ones like Tennessee first time 653 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: play caller there, Arthur Smith, You've got you know up 654 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: in Green Bay. I don't think it's first time play calling, 655 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: but first time as a head coach, and like that's 656 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: always a little wonky with Aaron Rodgers because like who's 657 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: calling the plays right, right, So there's a lot of 658 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: like interesting storylines with that. Denver first time Scanguarrello is 659 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: an offensive first time play like these are this, We're 660 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: gonna see what happens. Let's go, Cliff Kingsbury, Let's go, 661 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: let's go down up, Let's see what we got. Twenty 662 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,239 Speaker 1: nineteen is gonna be wild. We can't wait to get 663 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: this thing rolling. Cynthia Freeland, NFL Network always appreciate your time. 664 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 1: I'm sure we're going to see you around. This absolutely 665 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 1: be the first time you'll be at Jackhamis sports Cot Place. 666 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: I mean, no, I'm coming back. I love it here 667 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 1: as we roll on here on Chargers Weekly, Alex Marvez 668 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: serious XM NFL Radio joins me. Alex, what's up, buddy? 669 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: How you doing? I'm doing great? Love coming at her too, 670 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: beautiful Coasta Mesa. The only bad part is leaving. I know, 671 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: I know it is beautiful. It's hot. Is it hot 672 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: for you? I live in Gainesville, Florida. Okay, I live 673 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: in a place called the Swamp. One of our our 674 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,959 Speaker 1: VP of marketing was with the Dolphins and I was like, man, 675 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: it's it's human. He's like, dude, don't even don't even come. 676 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: I grew up in South Florida. This is wonderful here, 677 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: no question y'all live in Paradise. Yes, so AFC West made. 678 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 1: You were with the Broncos earlier. This is with the Broncos. Yeah, 679 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 1: you know, that offense to work in progress. Let's just 680 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 1: say that if there was a team that needed an 681 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: extra week of training camp based upon them playing a 682 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: fifth preseason game, well, Denver Broncos would fit that bill. 683 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: And they're just trying to sort of, you know, get 684 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: everything in sync. It's hard when you have a really 685 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: good defense that you're going against. The defense is ahead 686 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: of the offense tradition. It could be a help in 687 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 1: the long run, right exactly, and they're learning, Look, you 688 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: know can who can play. Joe Flacco looks fine when 689 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: he has time and sometimes he doesn't have time. And 690 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 1: the wide receiver position has been hit with some injuries. 691 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: Still don't have Emmanuel Sanders back in eleven on eleven. 692 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 1: He was doing seven on seven when we were there, 693 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: but none of the other wide receivers have really stepped up. Now. 694 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: One thing that's hard to get a real grip on 695 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: with the Broncos right now. As the running game they're 696 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: gonna there, should be able to pound the ball pretty effectively. 697 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: And Philip Lindsay has looked sharp. You know, they have 698 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: Royce Freeman, they have Devontae Bookcase. They have some depth 699 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: kind of a three headed attack there, right, you know, 700 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: And we know Garrett Bowls is a real good run blocker, 701 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: and you got Mike Munchak in and there's been a 702 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: changing of the guard at some positions, I mean literally 703 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: the guards, but also you know, but also you know, 704 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: a right tackle would you want James? So I think 705 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 1: they'll be able to do that. But it's just sort 706 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: of going to be a gritty Broncos team in and 707 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 1: you know what, I think John Elway is fine with that. 708 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 1: I really think that. And it's funny for an offensive coach, 709 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: you know, or not an offensive coach, but a quarterback 710 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 1: who's becoming an executive to think that way. But I 711 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: think he's trying to build the Broncos in the same 712 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: fashion as he did the team that won the Super Bowl, 713 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: which is lead with the defense, have a solid running 714 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: game and a quarterback who's a veteran guy who just 715 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: isn't going to make big mistakes. Yeah, and you get 716 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: the personality of your head coach. You want to try 717 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: to kind of follow that with Vic Fangio, and that's 718 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 1: probably what they're doing there, because you see what Vick's 719 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 1: done it as a defensive coordinator and see if he 720 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: can kind of mirror that as a head coach. Yeah, 721 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: and bring in a West Coast offensive coordinator and Rich 722 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: Ganderello new to the job, but someone who runs a 723 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: type of system that helped bring John Elway two Super 724 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: Bowl titles. So they've got some pieces in place for success. 725 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 1: I just don't think it's going to be overnight with 726 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 1: Vic fanju although do not sleep on this defense. I mean, 727 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 1: this is going to be with Chub and Miller and 728 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 1: Derek Wolf is rejuvenated in this system. You know, DeMarcus 729 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: Walker looked really sharp playing for them, and some additions 730 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: to the secondary of Kareem Jackson for example, Plus the 731 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: guys like each other this year. The past two years 732 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 1: weren't so good. There a lot of chaos, you know, 733 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: really found the coaching staff and just a trickle down 734 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: into the locker room and guys. You know, Derek Wolf 735 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 1: said it, you know, they're more of a team this year. 736 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: And then when I asked John Elway about it, he 737 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 1: told me, hey, you know, the veterans have to be 738 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 1: responsible for this as well. It's their team. They got 739 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 1: to take ownership of it. They have in Denver. Well, 740 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: it's great to have you here coming from Denver because 741 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 1: it gives our fans insight into an AFC West opponent. 742 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: And it's almost the polar opposite here when you talk 743 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: about the continuity have it a guy like Philip Rivers 744 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 1: entering his sixteenth season, there's I don't have to make 745 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 1: an introduction to like, hey, this is this is my 746 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: first day. Phil has been doing it for a long time. 747 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: This coaching staff has been doing it for a long time. 748 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: And the roster really from top to bottom for the 749 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 1: most part, they know each other, right, I mean, and 750 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: that's the great part, for example, about a draft class 751 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 1: when you can you know, obviously you don't want to 752 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,719 Speaker 1: be drafting a ton of injured players, but Jerry Tillery, 753 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,719 Speaker 1: for example, you'd love for him to contribute. But they 754 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: feel good about the defensive line depth. A lot of 755 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: these rookies are going to have a year to be 756 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 1: able to develop, and that's a credit to Tom Telesco, 757 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 1: John Spanos, the personnel department working hand in hand with 758 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 1: the coaches, and talking to Tom about this, he says 759 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: that he spent a lot of time with Gus Bradley 760 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: on the pieces that he needs for this defense. What 761 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 1: is it that he's looking for, And he's identified those 762 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 1: guys and for Tom this offseason with the linebacking corps, 763 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: bringing back to Denzel Perriman, Thomas Davis comes over after 764 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 1: fourteen glorious years with the Carolina Panthers. You know, Davis 765 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 1: Brown is back. I mean, there's more bodies there, Drew 766 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 1: Frank jorg Tree, how he does you're white? Yeah, exactly. 767 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: So there's there's talent there. It's a team, interestingly enough, 768 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 1: because the secondary is so good and so deep, you 769 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: don't always have to play, you know, bass person. Now. 770 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 1: I mean we'll see how teams want to attack the Chargers, 771 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 1: but you know, if you're in nickel and dime most 772 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 1: of the time, this place to the Charger strength. Quite honestly, 773 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 1: they just need some guys, you know, with some gravitas 774 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: and being able to stop the run and you know, 775 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 1: and that's where a Pareman comes in his forte and 776 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 1: I know he's lost some weight. Hopefully he's not too 777 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 1: injured again. I know his hammy get a little tight 778 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 1: in the conditioning drill on Thursday, but in Thomas Davis 779 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,800 Speaker 1: as well. I don't think you need Thomas Davis to 780 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 1: be an every down player for your team, And at 781 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 1: thirty six years old, I'm not sure it behooves you 782 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 1: to do you pick your spots with him because you 783 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: have a guy like Kaisier White too, who he was 784 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,399 Speaker 1: getting first team reps last year. He started the first 785 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: three games of twenty eighteen. I think people forget when 786 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: you go twelve and four, You forget the first three 787 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 1: four weeks of the season and just how impactful he was. 788 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 1: And to bring in a guy like Drew trenk why. 789 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: I talked to Gus Bradley about him and he's really 790 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 1: kind of popped during this offseason. We'll see what he 791 00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,240 Speaker 1: can do. He's got to have to contribute on special 792 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:03,240 Speaker 1: teams obviously, but the rush and the cover they work together. 793 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 1: And to have number ninety seven now Joey Bosa's there, 794 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 1: for see, that's gonna be the key Alex Right to 795 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 1: have the pass rush with with Ingram and Bosa and 796 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,760 Speaker 1: Rochelle and Nuo Sue. And then you talk about Jerry Tillery. 797 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 1: Justin Jones, a guy who's gonna make that next step 798 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 1: from year one to year two. They're high on him 799 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:23,439 Speaker 1: as well, and bringing back Brandon mebame for that veteran leadership. Yeah, 800 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 1: Damien squares back as well. And I know I believe 801 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: Damien was spending a little bit of time with Jerry 802 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 1: Tillery after the practice on Thursday. Was I saw that 803 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: at the beginning of practice. And you know, we talked 804 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 1: about that defensive line room during the offseason and just 805 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,399 Speaker 1: how you know, they want to make each other better. 806 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 1: And it's cool to see a VET take a rookie 807 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 1: first pro practice under his wing on on just individual 808 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: technique and things like that, getting him ingratiated into the 809 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 1: defensive line room because it's one thing to have the 810 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:50,840 Speaker 1: mental reps, it's another thing to implement it on the 811 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 1: football field. Yeah. And you know the thing too is, 812 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: I mean the Chargers had more Pro Bowl selections than 813 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,800 Speaker 1: any team in the NFL. Guys us, It's remarkable. And 814 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 1: you know and that that didn't count Joey Bosa when 815 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 1: you think about it, right, because he was hurt or 816 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,800 Speaker 1: Casey Award, right, and I mean, my gosh, and Casey, 817 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,320 Speaker 1: I mean, he's fantastic. I know the numbers, it was interesting. 818 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 1: I looked team still threw at him. I don't think 819 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 1: they've had very much success still, but you know, he's 820 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 1: traditionally a guy double digit passes defense. You look at 821 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,439 Speaker 1: also his you know, the interceptions that any normally brings 822 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 1: to the table. I think he gets back to doing 823 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 1: that a little bit more this year. I love seeing 824 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 1: Desmond King haven't expanded role now, He's going to be 825 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 1: more than a slot, going to play a little safety, 826 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 1: play a little on the outside, expand his repertoire. It 827 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 1: gives you options in the secondary, especially if there's an injury, 828 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:32,879 Speaker 1: being able to move people over and not skip a beat. 829 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 1: And I think that's what's just so encouraging about this 830 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: Chargers team. And gosh, Darwin James just I mean, he 831 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 1: is a rookie. How he is? How good can he be? 832 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 1: I mean, you don't know yet. I guess could we 833 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 1: say the name Rodney Harrison type good? I mean, when 834 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,800 Speaker 1: we talk to the great safeties and Chargers history, Rodney's 835 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 1: probably right at the top of that list. If if 836 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,799 Speaker 1: you know, if if he's not number one overall, he's 837 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 1: just special and he's a weapon. You can use him 838 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:56,919 Speaker 1: in so many different ways. You know, you can blitz 839 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 1: with him, you can cover with him. You know, he 840 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,320 Speaker 1: tackles and I mean supports in the run game, and 841 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,840 Speaker 1: he does everything he covers ground. I mean he is 842 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 1: essentially the quintessential safety. And you know, kudos to the 843 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 1: Chargers because there were some questions about the fact that 844 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 1: since he was a redshirt sophomore who turned you know, 845 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,800 Speaker 1: pro so early and didn't play a heck of a 846 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 1: lot of FSU I think some teams for squeamish like 847 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,399 Speaker 1: is he you know, what are we really getting in him? 848 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,279 Speaker 1: We'll give Talesco and company credit because they've gotten an 849 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,480 Speaker 1: absolute beast in the middle of the first round. Yeah, 850 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,840 Speaker 1: and I don't think he has a position Alex right, 851 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 1: he may be the third best pass rusher on the 852 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 1: defense outside of Bosa and Ingram. And the secondary's ability 853 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 1: to get the football. You alluded to it. You're bringing 854 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 1: a guy like Nazier Adalie who showcased that at the 855 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 1: University of Delaware. But but Desmond's ability to get his 856 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,439 Speaker 1: hands on the football, whether it's in the return game 857 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 1: or taken back a pick six in Seattle last year. 858 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 1: Casey did that for a couple of years consecutive. He 859 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 1: didn't really have the interception numbers last year. But if 860 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,320 Speaker 1: you get those up, I mean, there's a bunch of 861 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 1: guys that can get the football take it the other way, right, 862 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 1: That's the thing big a big play defense. And listen, 863 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:03,440 Speaker 1: it's not like this Chargers offense needs the defense to 864 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 1: pitch a shutout or have single digits you know in 865 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,880 Speaker 1: the scoring column to win games. They are going to 866 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 1: put up points. They're going to put up points. Whether 867 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,880 Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon is here or whether Melvin Gordon takes an 868 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 1: extended vacation while he works at his contract situation. Hopefully 869 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 1: he'll be here sooner than later. He makes his Chargers 870 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 1: team that much better. But that's the wonderful part about 871 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 1: this team that they're not going to have to rely, 872 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 1: you know, heavily on this defense, like the Broncos team 873 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,959 Speaker 1: will quite honestly to win the majority of their games. 874 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 1: And I also think though this defense could win them games. 875 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,400 Speaker 1: Let's say if there's a Sunday and it's going to 876 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,320 Speaker 1: happen inevitably where the offense just can't get rolling, this 877 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 1: defense can win you a thirteen ten game, right, I mean, 878 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,399 Speaker 1: and it's a deep team, and it's a deep team 879 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,279 Speaker 1: it's a veteran team. It's a team that has continuity. 880 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,319 Speaker 1: I mean, for all the coordinators to come back when 881 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 1: you think around the league and all the turnover that's 882 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 1: gone on everywhere, and for the Chargers, yeah, they lost 883 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 1: an assistant here or there. That happens around the NFL. 884 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 1: No staff returns entirely intact. But to have the coordinators 885 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 1: and to have the same message Anthony Lynn, the consistency 886 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,320 Speaker 1: that he provides a former player, he gets it. He 887 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 1: can he can connect and reach with his players in 888 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 1: so many great ways. I mean, it's just I mean, 889 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,479 Speaker 1: it's really the sky's the limit for this Chargers team. 890 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,440 Speaker 1: And you know, people play at the narrative of the 891 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,879 Speaker 1: lack of homefield advantage. Whatever. These guys are tough, man, 892 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 1: They are a tough, tough group. I mean, and you 893 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:21,920 Speaker 1: saw that when they went to Baltimore did what they did. 894 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,319 Speaker 1: The only team they figured out Lamar Jackson. Of course, 895 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,319 Speaker 1: it's hard Preak going to have to lose the first 896 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 1: time and potentially lose the AFC West in the process, 897 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,839 Speaker 1: but they figured it out. Now the question is figuring out, Okay, 898 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:33,799 Speaker 1: can we get that home field advantage? Can we win 899 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 1: this AFC West and with the Chiefs, you know, rebuilding 900 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,719 Speaker 1: on defense, and when I say rebuilding, it's all brand new. 901 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 1: And who knows some of the players that they drafted 902 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 1: in recent years are they're going to be able to 903 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 1: make the transition to the fourth three defense when you're 904 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 1: drafting for a three four and different ways you use 905 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 1: the personnel, Steve Spagnola has a lot of work ahead. 906 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,320 Speaker 1: I know that the Chiefs, you know, obviously I have 907 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,400 Speaker 1: an extremely talented offense and great news for them. The 908 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 1: Tyree Hill isn't going to miss any playing time. But 909 00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 1: you know, man, I mean that they still got to 910 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,719 Speaker 1: play fence at some point, and I just don't know 911 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 1: how long it's going to take for them to get 912 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 1: that their act together on that side of the ball. 913 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:08,879 Speaker 1: I'm glad you mentioned the road wins because going into 914 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 1: that New England game, every single game they got on 915 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 1: an airplane. They didn't lose every single game, and it's 916 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:17,440 Speaker 1: I don't think they get enough credit for that. We 917 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 1: talked about this. Faults don't get enough credit period. I mean, 918 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,759 Speaker 1: you don't hear it nationally. They're twelve and four team 919 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 1: that returns basically everybody, and it's getting a healthy Joey 920 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,800 Speaker 1: Bosa back, Well, what's not to like? But you know, 921 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:30,640 Speaker 1: you mentioned the Patriots as well. This team has a 922 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 1: New England problem. A lot of teams have in New England. 923 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:34,960 Speaker 1: They're not the only I get it, you know what 924 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,239 Speaker 1: I mean. I I totally understand that, you know, just 925 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,560 Speaker 1: has the Bills, just has to Jets, just has the Dolphins. 926 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,880 Speaker 1: But they've had a couple of decades of Patriot problems, 927 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,080 Speaker 1: right it literally decades because of Brady and Belichick and 928 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:47,920 Speaker 1: the way that they do their business up in Fox 929 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:49,920 Speaker 1: where I get it. Charges though, at some point are 930 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:51,319 Speaker 1: gonna have to get are gonna have to get over 931 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,360 Speaker 1: that hum And that's just a team that you know 932 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 1: last year and you could say, yeah, the defense was 933 00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,120 Speaker 1: you know, hamstrung because of the fact that they didn't 934 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,799 Speaker 1: have linebackers, but offensively it was no great shakes either. 935 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,400 Speaker 1: That was a Patriots team. And maybe we're underestimating just 936 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 1: how good that New England team was. They actually, by 937 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,320 Speaker 1: Patriots standards, in a Super Bowl won by a blowout. 938 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 1: And I'm I'm only half kidding because they had never 939 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,279 Speaker 1: really won a Super Bowl by double digits before. If 940 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,840 Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, in the it's always by the hair 941 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:18,400 Speaker 1: of their chinney chin chin, which will tell you that 942 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,880 Speaker 1: they are mortal, you know. But you know, at the 943 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,360 Speaker 1: end of the day, they always seem to find a 944 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,799 Speaker 1: way to win. But they play that the Chargers particularly well. 945 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,359 Speaker 1: I can't even remember the last time that Philip Rivers 946 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,120 Speaker 1: and the Chargers beat the Patriots. It's been a long 947 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,280 Speaker 1: time uphill battle. Yeah, that's why. But getting that winning 948 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,880 Speaker 1: this division and getting home field advantage so critical for 949 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,480 Speaker 1: this Chargers team because when it's filled with Chargers fans, 950 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,560 Speaker 1: and it would be in the postseason, it's loud. It 951 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 1: does give them an advantage and at some point, you know, 952 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,359 Speaker 1: we talked about the depth of this roster. Like I said, 953 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,880 Speaker 1: this defense can win you a game. The combination of 954 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 1: Keenan Hellen and Mike Williams. I think we're just starting 955 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 1: to scratch the surface on Mike Williams. And it's it's 956 00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,320 Speaker 1: hard to be elevenuntital touchdowns last year, but just watching 957 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 1: this guy on the football field, he looks like he's 958 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 1: going to be a future All Pro And obviously there's 959 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:05,920 Speaker 1: a lot of mouths to feed on this offense. You 960 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 1: bring Hunter Henry back, you got Keenan, you got Mike, 961 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,600 Speaker 1: and you got these kind of the staple running backs. 962 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,799 Speaker 1: But Mike Williams, man, he looks like the real deal. 963 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,279 Speaker 1: What he did against Kansas City last year. I mean, 964 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,320 Speaker 1: if you're a Chargers fan, I mean you're just salivating 965 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,600 Speaker 1: at the at what he provides. He's so big, but 966 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 1: he's so fast. He smooth do yeah, I mean you 967 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,200 Speaker 1: name It's It's funny though, I used smooth with Keenan 968 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,560 Speaker 1: Allen because Keenan Allen to me, has that quality where 969 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,840 Speaker 1: he looks like he's gliding. He's not even like running. 970 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 1: He's just so smooth. We're talking about his footwork with 971 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:39,440 Speaker 1: Cynthy Freeland. It's it's basically a clinic tape. Yeah, he's ridiculous, right, 972 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,440 Speaker 1: you know with Mike, I mean just the mismatches that 973 00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 1: you can get with him is I mean you give 974 00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:47,640 Speaker 1: a team fits. Oh and then by the way, you 975 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,279 Speaker 1: can throw deep to Travis Benjamin. Travis is a guy 976 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,440 Speaker 1: now and it's amazing. He's been on w I think 977 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 1: it's his ninth season coming up. But we don't really 978 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 1: talk about him, you know, in the same terms as 979 00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 1: a lot of other wide receivers, because Allen is so 980 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 1: good and and you know, obviously Mike Williams and Tyroll Williams, 981 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:03,440 Speaker 1: you know, was here last year and did a great 982 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,640 Speaker 1: job for a number of seasons. But Travis Bencher is 983 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,520 Speaker 1: a pretty darn steady player. Yeah, you know what you 984 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,400 Speaker 1: get with him. So that's another target. And he was 985 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,160 Speaker 1: hurt last year he had that foot injury, and coach 986 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,359 Speaker 1: Linn said, hey, luckily we didn't need him last year 987 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,239 Speaker 1: because it's Tyroll Willams, but we're gonna need him this year. 988 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,600 Speaker 1: And his ability to stretch the football field, I think 989 00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,440 Speaker 1: that's so under rated way, especially when you bring in 990 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,960 Speaker 1: a hunterback. Yeah, exactly. The one thing I am curious 991 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:23,480 Speaker 1: about is how is this depth going to play out 992 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,640 Speaker 1: if number four, number five receivers, those positions are not set. 993 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,680 Speaker 1: So you know, we got our Tavis Scott from Clemson, 994 00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 1: the all time receptions leader. You got Jeremy Davis, you 995 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,719 Speaker 1: got Done Cantrell, Andre Patton. A lot of guys there 996 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:36,640 Speaker 1: competing for that four and five role. Yeah, so it's 997 00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:38,759 Speaker 1: good competition. You know, we'll just see if someone can 998 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:40,719 Speaker 1: make a difference if they're called upon, you know, knock 999 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,840 Speaker 1: on what. Everyone stays healthy, but if you have to 1000 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:44,640 Speaker 1: go to a backup. None of those guys have really 1001 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,719 Speaker 1: proven themselves. So that's an area that we're going to 1002 00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 1: continue to watch, not to say that they can't. Yeah, 1003 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:50,200 Speaker 1: you know, we gotta watch that. We gotta watch the 1004 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,279 Speaker 1: offensive line. Tom Talasco basically put it out there when 1005 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,239 Speaker 1: I talked to him for a serious sex emp show. Look, 1006 00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,759 Speaker 1: we're looking for five starters, and they are willing to 1007 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,160 Speaker 1: mix and match. They are to make some changes if 1008 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,400 Speaker 1: need be. I mean, and some of this obviously stems 1009 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:07,960 Speaker 1: the shuffling. Some of it is Russell o'cum sure, but 1010 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 1: it's providing opportunities for others. Now, you know, to be 1011 00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:12,160 Speaker 1: able to say, well, if there are our best five, 1012 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,960 Speaker 1: we're starting with these guys. Just try to figure out 1013 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,600 Speaker 1: how this tackle configuration works. Until Russell is able to 1014 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:19,319 Speaker 1: return to the field, and thank goodness, he is able 1015 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,480 Speaker 1: to return to the field again, that's the most important 1016 00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,960 Speaker 1: thing his hell first and foremost. And you know, you're right, 1017 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:26,880 Speaker 1: it's it's a fluid situation. But you have guys like 1018 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,399 Speaker 1: I think Forrest Lamp where Yeah, this is year three 1019 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,080 Speaker 1: for Forest now, and I think the expectation is he's 1020 00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,680 Speaker 1: going to play a lot, you know, probably maybe a guard. 1021 00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:36,400 Speaker 1: Well we'll see how things I mean, stay too, a 1022 00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,279 Speaker 1: training can't We don't know yet. But to your point, 1023 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 1: the five best are going to play and the competition 1024 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,040 Speaker 1: there kind of an underrated storyline here as well. I 1025 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:46,919 Speaker 1: think so. And you know, when you hear Anthony Lynn 1026 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,800 Speaker 1: talk about Dan Feeney, you know, maybe having a future 1027 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 1: at center in the NFL, I think that when you 1028 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:53,839 Speaker 1: look into the snow globe and you're trying to predict 1029 00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,279 Speaker 1: the future, I'm not saying for twenty nineteen, because Mike 1030 00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 1: Pouncey obviously had a great season here. Maybe come twenty twenty, 1031 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,279 Speaker 1: maybe it's time Mike's a little bit older, you move 1032 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 1: on and Dan Feeney is your guy at the center spot. 1033 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,040 Speaker 1: So I thought that was sort of a either a 1034 00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,440 Speaker 1: very interesting comment base. It's interesting for the future. I 1035 00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,239 Speaker 1: tell you, Mike what he brought to the offensive line 1036 00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,760 Speaker 1: last year, just the attitude and the leadership to compliment Philip. 1037 00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:19,000 Speaker 1: I really think that that that got the running game going. 1038 00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,360 Speaker 1: It got it got that entire line. Just the continuity 1039 00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,600 Speaker 1: and the camaraderie that Mike brings is really invaluable. You know, 1040 00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,799 Speaker 1: It's interesting. So the Chargers. In a history of players 1041 00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:29,600 Speaker 1: getting hurt at the worst possible time, right, and just 1042 00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:33,560 Speaker 1: a terrible injury history. Mike Bounces does heart in reverse. 1043 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,160 Speaker 1: The guy was always hurt with the Dolphins, and they 1044 00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,080 Speaker 1: made a huge investment in him, and they just simply 1045 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,919 Speaker 1: just didn't trust that he could stay healthy. So he moved. 1046 00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 1: They move on, and then they spend all this money 1047 00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:45,279 Speaker 1: on the guy. He comes here at a much lesser 1048 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,320 Speaker 1: contract and ends up being one of the great steals 1049 00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,320 Speaker 1: and free agency of two thousand and eight. Seamen Orlando 1050 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,040 Speaker 1: at the Pro Bowl exactly that that's what you got, 1051 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,680 Speaker 1: and that's the Dolphins knew that he had that potential, 1052 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,560 Speaker 1: but he just could never really escape that. The injury 1053 00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,680 Speaker 1: history never could and then they had problems with the 1054 00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:01,720 Speaker 1: center position, then a ton of problems in South Florida. 1055 00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,520 Speaker 1: I digress, but yeah, Mike Pouncing no longer his problem. 1056 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:06,680 Speaker 1: He's with the Chargers and he's better off for it. Yeah, 1057 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,920 Speaker 1: fairly good on the West Coast. Alex Barvez pub your 1058 00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:11,440 Speaker 1: show man. What do you got going on over the 1059 00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:12,799 Speaker 1: next couple weeks? Now? Are you're gonna be a lot 1060 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,360 Speaker 1: of differ training camp site? Yeah? Oh my gosh. So 1061 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,319 Speaker 1: by the time all is said and done, we're gonna 1062 00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,520 Speaker 1: be mentioned Denver and we're here at the Chargers, We're 1063 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,560 Speaker 1: at Arizona, We're at the Dallas Cowboys, where you know 1064 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,200 Speaker 1: we cover all thirty two teams. These are just the 1065 00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,480 Speaker 1: ones I'm doing. I got the La Rams, We've got 1066 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,480 Speaker 1: a couple of days in Canada, the Pro Football Hall 1067 00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:31,400 Speaker 1: of Fames, Fundan Hall Brother then we got Atlanta, Carolina, 1068 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,320 Speaker 1: Kansas City, Detroit. You can hear all of those on 1069 00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,799 Speaker 1: demand as well through the Serious xMAP. 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On 1080 00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:02,759 Speaker 1: the go from head to toe that's what we do 1081 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:04,719 Speaker 1: one of the best of the bids. Alex Marvez, thanks 1082 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,120 Speaker 1: so much, buddy, father, thank you so much. All Right, guys, 1083 00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,280 Speaker 1: that's gonna do it. A big thanks to Alex Marvez, 1084 00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,719 Speaker 1: Cynthia Freeland, Michael Badgeley, and Isaac Rochelle for joining me, 1085 00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,120 Speaker 1: and of course thanks to you all for listening. Be 1086 00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,120 Speaker 1: sure to subscribe to Chargers Weekly on Apple Podcasts. Why 1087 00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,319 Speaker 1: are you there? Give us a rating and review, help 1088 00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,560 Speaker 1: spread the word. Have a great weekend. We hope to 1089 00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,240 Speaker 1: see a lot of you guys at the Jack Himmett 1090 00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,520 Speaker 1: Sports Complex on Saturday and Sunday. And until next time, 1091 00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:28,560 Speaker 1: I'm Chris Harry