WEBVTT - Martha Stewart Speaks Her Mind 0:00:05.080 --> 0:00:09.000 Hi Brian, Hi Katie, and hello lovely listeners. This week, 0:00:09.119 --> 0:00:12.840 we are very excited because we're taking you all with 0:00:12.960 --> 0:00:19.599 us to Martha Stewart headquarters. Literally, well literally we interviewed 0:00:19.680 --> 0:00:24.200 Martha at her company headquarters, Martha Stewart Living Omni Media, 0:00:24.920 --> 0:00:27.760 and had a really wonderful time, didn't we We did. 0:00:27.800 --> 0:00:30.960 The offices are incredible. They take up a giant city 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:34.120 block in Chelsea, right on the Hudson River, and they 0:00:34.159 --> 0:00:37.360 definitely passed the white glove test. They were beautiful and 0:00:37.479 --> 0:00:40.800 so clean Martha, Ladies and gentlemen, no surprise here is 0:00:40.840 --> 0:00:44.200 not particularly messy. But we also walked around the joint 0:00:44.560 --> 0:00:48.160 afterwards and that place is stocked, isn't it. It's amazing, 0:00:48.240 --> 0:00:52.320 from color coded design books to a five thousand dollar 0:00:52.400 --> 0:00:56.760 cappuccino machine that she talks about to test kitchens. And 0:00:56.800 --> 0:00:59.960 also they have tons of props for when they do shoot. 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:04.120 They have a million different shares and napkins and tablecloths 0:01:04.120 --> 0:01:06.720 and even a bin that said Hanky's. There's even a 0:01:06.800 --> 0:01:10.880 Martha Stewart cafe in the lobby. As Martha herself might say. 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:14.800 It's a good thing. Brian. Anyway, for nearly thirty five years, 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:17.760 she has dominated all things domestic. She has lent her 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:21.560 good taste and her name to everything from TV shows 0:01:21.600 --> 0:01:26.039 to cookbooks, to carpet tiles, meal kits, magazines, and much 0:01:26.240 --> 0:01:29.360 much more. She's like a cottage industry. And I think 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:33.600 she has actually made elegance accessible and said to the 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:39.399 average homemaker, male, female, whatever, somebody who wants to nest 0:01:39.520 --> 0:01:43.560 and make their home their castle, that it's doable and 0:01:43.680 --> 0:01:46.760 actually affordable. And Martha, after all, is the woman who 0:01:46.760 --> 0:01:50.480 New York Magazine once called an emblematic figure of our times. 0:01:50.680 --> 0:01:52.640 And in our conversation today, we wanted to get a 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:56.280 better sense of the woman behind the empire, things like 0:01:56.600 --> 0:01:59.880 how on earth does she stay so productive? What motivates her? 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:01.960 I mean, she's incredible. I think she's got a new 0:02:02.000 --> 0:02:04.960 cookbook out, the Slow Cooker Cookbook, which is her eighty 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:09.160 ninth book, and we should mention she's seventy six years old. 0:02:09.200 --> 0:02:12.799 She looks amazing. But her energy, I mean she is 0:02:12.880 --> 0:02:16.880 indefatigable and no signs at all of slowing down. Just 0:02:16.919 --> 0:02:20.000 as ambitious as ever. That's right. In her latest foray 0:02:20.040 --> 0:02:24.120 into the entertainment world is a show with Snoop Dogg 0:02:24.480 --> 0:02:26.720 called pot luck dinner, which is a bit of a 0:02:26.840 --> 0:02:31.320 double Entendre came up with that name herself. Funny funny 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:35.720 funny stuff is Johnny Carson might say. Anyway, here's our conversation, 0:02:35.880 --> 0:02:39.680 and please ignore the chewing, because we did enjoy some 0:02:39.840 --> 0:02:43.560 delicious apple Crisp. I said that like Julia Child, didn't 0:02:43.600 --> 0:02:49.120 I like Martha delicious apple? Chris. Here's our conversation with 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:58.640 the one and only Martha Stewart. Brian, your dream finally 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:00.720 came true. We're sitting here air with the one and 0:03:00.760 --> 0:03:04.320 only Martha Stewart, not only doing our podcast, but we're 0:03:04.320 --> 0:03:08.320 actually in Martha's office. I wanted to be in my office. 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:11.680 You wanted to be in some dingy conference room someplace. 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:15.359 Now we actually wanted to be on your farm in Bedford, 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:18.760 or your estate in Maine, or your house in East Hampton. 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:23.080 But this is much easier. I'd rather be in any 0:03:23.080 --> 0:03:25.800 of those places to spend the whole weekend with you. 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:30.560 Another dime. Let's do a block that that would be great, 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:35.920 a podcast in real time for a weekends. Tell us though, 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:40.120 about this office. It's very cool, very industrial, and very white. Yes, 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:43.280 well this was this is the st Lee High building, 0:03:43.480 --> 0:03:45.920 one of seven buildings in New York City that is 0:03:46.080 --> 0:03:49.760 one city block in size, and it was at the 0:03:49.800 --> 0:03:54.120 time it was built, it was a storage warehouse building. 0:03:54.760 --> 0:03:57.520 And when I found the space, which was almost twenty 0:03:57.600 --> 0:04:01.480 years ago, this floor, the ninth lore was about a 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:07.080 hundred different little like switch shops. There was a letter press. 0:04:07.200 --> 0:04:10.280 There are a lot of really loud industrial kinds of 0:04:10.320 --> 0:04:14.280 company switch shops, but they were not just one big switch. 0:04:14.560 --> 0:04:19.039 That's right, it was. It was a dollar a square foot, 0:04:19.120 --> 0:04:23.160 that's what people. That was the rent whole. We have 0:04:23.520 --> 0:04:27.080 the whole floor soon to be just the south side 0:04:27.120 --> 0:04:30.880 of the floor and how many people um right now 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:33.440 it'll be about three d people on this floor. But 0:04:33.480 --> 0:04:37.039 we have satellite offices to for other ones. I'm part 0:04:37.040 --> 0:04:40.720 of Sequential Brands Group now and the Martha brand is 0:04:40.760 --> 0:04:44.880 now licensed through Sequential, but it is but we still 0:04:44.920 --> 0:04:48.160 do our TV shows, and we still do our various 0:04:48.160 --> 0:04:51.960 and sundry other appearances, and make all our products for 0:04:52.120 --> 0:04:59.360 Macy's and and Home Depot and Michael's. And actually working 0:04:59.480 --> 0:05:03.040 harder now that I probably worked ten years ago, although 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:05.680 who knows. I mean, I don't keep track. Before Brian 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:08.400 interjects and has a question. I just want to mention 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:11.839 if people here a little noise. I'm drinking a delicious 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:16.240 Martha Stewart cappuccino and that's a Martha coffee. That's still 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:18.600 say coffee that we sell in our cafe down on 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:20.520 the first floor. Did you see the cafe? Did? It 0:05:20.600 --> 0:05:22.800 was so cool? What's it like walking into no building 0:05:22.839 --> 0:05:25.279 and seeing the Martha Stewart cafe. I want the Katie 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:28.200 currentt cafe. Well, you should have one. You should have 0:05:28.240 --> 0:05:31.320 one on the coffee. Oh yes, you can buy the 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:35.000 coffee downstairs at the cafe nowhere else and online I 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:38.600 went on it is Martha Stewart. Martha Stewart cafe, UM 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:41.440 dot com. We're working on a whole line of these 0:05:41.480 --> 0:05:45.040 cafes now. The whole team is down the hall working 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:47.800 away today people from all over the country or in today, 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:51.520 looking at and tasting samples of different things that we're 0:05:51.560 --> 0:05:53.719 going to be selling at the kind of Howard Schultz 0:05:53.880 --> 0:05:56.720 run for his money. UM. It's a very different concept 0:05:56.920 --> 0:06:01.520 as a smaller footprint. Basically in office buildings like this one. 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:07.000 This this building has I think over five hundred people 0:06:07.080 --> 0:06:10.320 working in it, and there was no cafe. Well, looking 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:12.400 at this wall of Emmy's that I'm staring at. I 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:16.599 wouldn't bet against you. But before we we delve into 0:06:16.680 --> 0:06:19.000 your bio, which is something we do on this show. 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:22.080 We do, we do, we do, But before we go 0:06:22.160 --> 0:06:25.040 all the way back. It was interesting you just mentioned 0:06:25.240 --> 0:06:27.039 your company being sold, and I think a lot of 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:31.400 people remember that moment when Martha Stewart Living on the 0:06:31.560 --> 0:06:35.000 Media went public and you served homemade briyosh at the 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:39.520 New York stock Et. Tell us a little bit about 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:42.120 the journey of the company since then to the point 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:43.880 that you're sort of selling it now you're no longer. 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:48.680 That was the probably one of the most exciting days 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:51.679 in my life, except for the day that my daughter 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:56.280 Alexis was born. Uh, and maybe the day I got married, 0:06:56.720 --> 0:07:00.240 and then two days that my grandchildren were born. Uh uh, 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:05.360 maybe my cats and my dogs, But most exciting day 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:07.800 of your life. But I have a lot of I 0:07:07.839 --> 0:07:10.200 have a lot of pets. So this was a very 0:07:10.240 --> 0:07:13.080 exciting day going public because I had worked really hard 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:17.560 to build a superb company, Martha Stewart Living Omnimedia, and 0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:19.520 it was kind of a cutting edge company, and this 0:07:19.600 --> 0:07:24.320 was a company that actually took into consideration the Internet, 0:07:25.320 --> 0:07:31.080 the television, the printed word, the media as well as merchandising. 0:07:31.440 --> 0:07:33.920 So it was really truly on the media. And we 0:07:33.960 --> 0:07:36.320 still are. We're still on the media. I love I 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:39.760 love the idea of being omni media. And we took 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:44.160 ourselves away from publishing the magazine with Time Inc. We 0:07:44.200 --> 0:07:48.240 started publishing on our own uh And that day, um, 0:07:48.320 --> 0:07:51.480 we went public at a share of I think it 0:07:51.560 --> 0:07:54.920 was eighteen dollars a share, which went up to about 0:07:54.960 --> 0:07:59.040 thirty two dollars. I was a multibillionaire at that day. 0:07:59.120 --> 0:08:04.480 It was so day. And I drove up Madison Avenue 0:08:04.560 --> 0:08:08.000 after after the long day, and I said, I said, God, 0:08:08.040 --> 0:08:11.640 I can buy pretty much anything. Did you know? I 0:08:11.800 --> 0:08:15.200 was so stupid. I should have I should have spent 0:08:15.280 --> 0:08:18.120 it all then because everything was much cheaper then than 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:23.840 it is now. And I, well, I should have bought, 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:25.360 could have, should have, would have, could have. That's a 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:28.640 whole chapter in my autobiography, which I am penning right now. 0:08:30.440 --> 0:08:33.560 You are making one too. We're gonna I'm not gonna 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:36.000 tell you anything else then because you'll you'll copy me, 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:42.160 my sister. But that should would could is I'm sure 0:08:42.200 --> 0:08:45.240 it's a big chapter in your life too, And it's 0:08:45.679 --> 0:08:49.680 one of those things that happens to everybody. I mean you. 0:08:50.040 --> 0:08:53.720 I remember every single antique that I didn't buy it, 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:56.240 every single auction I went to from the time I 0:08:56.320 --> 0:08:59.480 was married in nineteen sixty one. Can you imagine seem 0:08:59.559 --> 0:09:01.600 to expend of at the time. No, it just seemed 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:04.720 though I can't afford it, or maybe it will fit. 0:09:04.920 --> 0:09:08.160 And I should have bought everything. I should have been 0:09:08.160 --> 0:09:10.720 the biggest consort because but I am a very frugal 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:15.880 person and I still, Oh my god, and my daughter 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:20.160 is more frugal than you are. My daughter points out 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:23.000 all the time, why don't you have your own airplane? Mom? 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:25.199 Why don't you have your own yacht? And the river? 0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:27.520 And you know, she she knows. I could have had 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:31.079 pretty much anything. I still actually I've done pretty well 0:09:31.080 --> 0:09:33.960 in the real estate department, and I should still do 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:36.800 some of those things. But I'm not an extravagant liver. 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:40.719 I live simply personally, although I do have you know, 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:45.880 I live on a farm up. I know, but it's simple. 0:09:46.400 --> 0:09:48.559 I don't know. I I looked at your blog the 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:50.679 last few days preparing for this interview, and I thought, 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:53.400 who lives like this, maybe the Queen of England. No, 0:09:54.040 --> 0:09:56.440 I think the Queen of England and Martha I don't 0:09:56.480 --> 0:10:04.679 have fault, but we have a lot of staff anyway. Well, 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:07.679 I think the thing about Martha's that, you know, I've 0:10:07.679 --> 0:10:11.760 always thought that you have made elegance accessible and I 0:10:12.280 --> 0:10:15.080 think you predated sort of this whole notion of nesting 0:10:15.679 --> 0:10:18.920 and of making beautiful things and making a house a 0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:22.719 home and all that, And what what made you realize 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:25.480 that there was an appetite for that in this country. 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:28.000 I was brought up by a mother who really took 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:33.439 the art of homemaking to the next level. She made everything, 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:38.480 She sewed our clothes, she canned the tomatoes, she made 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:42.640 a delicious meal three times a day for eight people. 0:10:43.400 --> 0:10:45.560 My mom was you know, she was a very good 0:10:45.559 --> 0:10:50.880 example to me of wanting to elevate a simple life 0:10:50.960 --> 0:10:54.960 into a good, really good life, healthy life. And we 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:56.840 were simple, I mean we I lived in a in 0:10:56.880 --> 0:10:59.520 a three bedroom house on Elm Place and the New 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:02.360 Jersey see which I go back to see sometimes that 0:11:02.480 --> 0:11:04.360 people almost had a heart attack when I knocked on 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:07.120 the door the last time, And did you bring them 0:11:07.160 --> 0:11:09.440 some cookies? At least? So I just went to I said, 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:11.080 you know, I used to live here. They said, we 0:11:11.120 --> 0:11:15.120 know you used, and uh, could I please see my 0:11:15.200 --> 0:11:18.200 old bedroom which I shared with my sister Kathy, And 0:11:18.240 --> 0:11:20.439 I would put Kathy on the right hand side of 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:22.480 the bed, which had the night light where I could read. 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:24.760 I would make her go to sleep on that side 0:11:24.800 --> 0:11:26.680 to warm the bed because we didn't keep it. We 0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:30.040 kept the house pretty cold, saving fuel all that stuff. Um. 0:11:30.120 --> 0:11:31.960 And so then I would drag her to her side 0:11:31.960 --> 0:11:36.520 of the bed. Before Martha was in, she had six 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:41.640 years younger. She she has not forgiven me. Believe me. Um, 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:43.920 it sounds like your your mom was like the CEO 0:11:44.040 --> 0:11:46.520 of the house. Well she was. She was pretty much 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:49.600 my dad was the CEO of the garden and the 0:11:49.679 --> 0:11:52.280 fixture upper of the place. Uh. And we had an 0:11:52.280 --> 0:11:54.199 next door neighbors. We could throw a stone and hit 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:56.960 the next door neighbors door, you know, but we were 0:11:56.960 --> 0:11:59.960 friends with our neighbors. We had. It was a nice street. 0:12:00.280 --> 0:12:02.360 It was a very pleasant place to grow up. And 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:04.160 I think a lot of people imagine you're like this 0:12:04.240 --> 0:12:08.160 major wasp, and I know I'm I'm a daughter of 0:12:08.240 --> 0:12:13.440 two Polish American people. They were born here but my grandparents, 0:12:13.480 --> 0:12:16.520 all four grandparents were born in Poland, and they came 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:19.640 to the United States on ships, and you know, they 0:12:19.760 --> 0:12:22.280 could see the island where they landed, right here in 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:26.240 New York Harbor, and they signed in and two went 0:12:26.320 --> 0:12:29.680 to Buffalo, New York. My grandfather was a trained in 0:12:29.800 --> 0:12:32.680 My grandfather was ski My mother's father was a trained 0:12:32.720 --> 0:12:38.040 iron monger decorative iron work, and uh, and my other 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:41.319 my father's family all moved to Jersey City. I think 0:12:41.360 --> 0:12:43.600 about you because I know how close you were to 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:49.120 your mom, Big Martha, unbelievably close. And and did you 0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:51.000 ever come on the Today Show with me? You know, 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:53.640 I don't know. I feel like she might have, but 0:12:53.720 --> 0:12:56.720 I feel like I've met her definitely, and I know 0:12:56.840 --> 0:13:00.360 you always spoke of her. And it was really really 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:04.160 great mother. Uh, and one of those mothers who had 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:09.440 six kids and every child was equal, no matter what, 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:12.320 no matter what the bad things we did, we were 0:13:12.360 --> 0:13:14.760 all equal. And then my parents and that was until 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:17.680 the day she died. We were all equally all around 0:13:17.679 --> 0:13:20.320 her bed when she died. And she died at four 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:22.920 and almost ninety four years old. So she's she had 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:26.480 a great life, never sick. She just finally decided it 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:29.400 was time. How many years ago was that that was about? 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:32.480 I don't. I don't remember things like years, um, which 0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:35.319 is a good thing. Do you remember things are years? Well? 0:13:35.360 --> 0:13:39.319 I remember, I do. My mom died three years ago 0:13:39.400 --> 0:13:43.320 on day and and and so I remember everything, but 0:13:43.400 --> 0:13:46.439 not I just I think about my mom so much, 0:13:46.480 --> 0:13:48.440 and I missed her so much. So I wondered if 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:50.480 you felt the same. I missed my mother a lot, 0:13:50.600 --> 0:13:52.800 and I wonder, I wonder, you know, what would mother 0:13:52.840 --> 0:13:57.560 think about this or that? Um, when I'm making a 0:13:57.559 --> 0:14:00.840 delicious meal. She would come over on Sundays, pretty much 0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:03.920 every Sunday from from Western Connecticut where she lived with 0:14:03.920 --> 0:14:06.959 my sister Laura. She would drive herself and then when 0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:09.600 she got in past ninety, I used to sit and 0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:13.000 send somebody to pick her up. Um, and she would 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:16.040 come to my house and eat the healthiest, delicious lunch. 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:18.760 She had a great appetite that she'd take a walk 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:21.080 with me. Then she'd have a massage. I always got 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:24.520 my massure over for mom, and uh, and we'd go 0:14:24.560 --> 0:14:28.200 to a movie and she'd have a fabulous day and um, 0:14:28.320 --> 0:14:31.480 but she was What I really loved about her was 0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:37.040 that egalitarian attitude towards all of her children, and so 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:40.520 even though her daughter was rich and famous, the other 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:44.880 five kids were just as famous, just as successful in 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:48.360 her eyes. Yeah, So it occurred to me as we 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:50.720 were preparing for this that you know, you were a 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:53.840 model early in your career. You were a stockbroker for 0:14:53.920 --> 0:14:58.480 several years, and you didn't really become quote Martha Stewart 0:14:59.080 --> 0:15:01.920 until you were in forty. I was a late bloomer, 0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:04.680 which is like Julia Child. Actually that's who it reminded 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:07.400 me of. I was a late bloomer. And my gynecologist, 0:15:08.280 --> 0:15:13.840 uh there, I don't know he even called me a 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:17.200 late bloomer. So in what context? And because said that 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:18.960 I was a late bloomer in terms of my in 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:23.280 terms of my business life. And isn't that funny that 0:15:23.840 --> 0:15:26.280 your doctor would call you a late bloomer? I thought 0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:29.040 it was great, like like my gardener calling me a 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:34.359 late bloomer. So when your first book came out, well, 0:15:34.040 --> 0:15:37.480 I Martha didn't really answer that earlier question though, which is, 0:15:37.800 --> 0:15:42.760 how did you know that this was a really potentially 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:45.840 huge market for what you were saying After being a 0:15:45.840 --> 0:15:50.160 stockbroker and and working with people's money. I then retired 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:53.480 to Westport, and I did started looking around for what 0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:55.400 you were doing, a catering business, and I started a 0:15:55.440 --> 0:15:59.200 catering business with a friend called Norma Collier, and she 0:15:59.280 --> 0:16:00.960 was a famous mall it at the time, and she 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:03.160 wanted to have a business too, So we started this 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:07.360 catering business dealing with people's appetites other than their and 0:16:07.680 --> 0:16:10.680 not their pocketbooks really but the same thing. And they 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:12.960 were very similar. I mean, people could be real nasty 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:17.680 or real nice, money or appetite. And then Norma had 0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:21.360 to retire early because she was way too hard the work. 0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:24.320 And I liked the physical labor. I liked the building 0:16:24.320 --> 0:16:27.680 a restaurant every night and then breaking it down and 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:31.080 cleaning the cards. I mean, believe me, I'm a glutton 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:33.880 for punishment worker. I am. I am a worker. B 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:37.320 I just brought up like that. But um, I realized 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:40.600 that the art of homemaking really and truly had not 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:45.120 been celebrated in an appropriate way. And I thought of 0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:48.560 my mother all the time. Here's this fabulous woman who 0:16:48.680 --> 0:16:51.280 was also a very hard worker, but she hadn't been 0:16:51.280 --> 0:16:54.720 celebrated as a homemaker. And to be able to raise 0:16:54.760 --> 0:16:56.800 the kids on they were making when my when my 0:16:56.840 --> 0:17:00.440 mother wasn't teaching, my father was working. They were living 0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:03.320 on a salary of about eleven thousand a year. And 0:17:03.360 --> 0:17:06.080 this is a long time ago, but still that's very 0:17:06.119 --> 0:17:10.440 little money to manage. That's why the garden was so good. Yeah, 0:17:10.720 --> 0:17:12.520 that's why the garden was so big. That's why the 0:17:12.560 --> 0:17:16.160 clothing was made by hand. The sewing machine was always busy. 0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:18.240 Mom didn't get very many hours of sleep, you know, 0:17:18.359 --> 0:17:20.640 the whole thing. And we were not poor. We did 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:23.840 not consider ourselves poor in any way. So when did 0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:27.800 you realize that this thing you were doing, that homemaking 0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:31.640 and cooking and sewing and gardening, could become a business. 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:34.680 And well, I started writing books in two And I'm 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:37.399 sure you have my Entertaining Book, because I probably and 0:17:37.440 --> 0:17:40.199 I actually still remember the pretty picture of you on 0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:42.520 the cover. Your hair was long and I think it 0:17:42.600 --> 0:17:47.200 was maybe in a half updo or something, and I yes, 0:17:47.280 --> 0:17:51.560 and I remember your basket weave um with frosting. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:17:51.560 --> 0:17:54.280 it wasn't that in there? Oh yeah, definitely. Well I 0:17:54.280 --> 0:17:56.600 think I read that before I started. I started to 0:17:56.640 --> 0:17:59.480 write books because I started, I started to realize that 0:17:59.800 --> 0:18:03.400 my friends were just like me. We all needed some 0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:08.240 encouragement to entertain better. We needed better recipes that could 0:18:08.280 --> 0:18:11.400 be done, that aren't weren't too complicated, And there were 0:18:11.440 --> 0:18:16.439 no at that time, very few illustrated cookbooks. And I, 0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:19.280 you know, I consider myself as crazy, I know, but 0:18:19.320 --> 0:18:21.439 I considered myself kind of a really good cook at 0:18:21.480 --> 0:18:25.000 the time. And so I wrote this book entertaining and 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:28.600 my publisher I remember saying, if you sell ten thousand copies, 0:18:28.600 --> 0:18:31.480 you should be happy. I said, I know twenty five 0:18:31.560 --> 0:18:33.920 thousand people who will buy this book, because I have 0:18:34.000 --> 0:18:36.600 been catering for a while and I had all South 0:18:36.680 --> 0:18:40.439 Bese clients. I had the museums in New York hired 0:18:40.520 --> 0:18:42.920 my me for my services. I did parties at the 0:18:42.960 --> 0:18:47.080 Metropolitan Museum of Art. How many didn't. So it's it's 0:18:47.200 --> 0:18:50.360 way way over a million copies. So um, I don't 0:18:50.359 --> 0:18:53.600 know the latest. I should, I should know the exact number. 0:18:53.680 --> 0:18:56.160 But you don't wake up in the morning and say, 0:18:56.280 --> 0:18:59.640 let's look and see. I'm sure. I'm sure it's way 0:18:59.640 --> 0:19:02.359 over because by the way, that was for the first 0:19:02.440 --> 0:19:05.119 of what over a Well, we're up to we're up 0:19:05.160 --> 0:19:08.919 to ninety now, and we just published here this is 0:19:08.960 --> 0:19:12.399 the right. That's what a new one called Slow Cooker nine. 0:19:12.680 --> 0:19:16.080 And then the Newlywed cookbooks coming out very shortly, and 0:19:16.119 --> 0:19:19.320 that will be our nine. And then Martha's Flowers comes 0:19:19.359 --> 0:19:22.600 out in February. I'm excited about that. So does that 0:19:22.680 --> 0:19:25.600 teach you how to arrange flowers? How to grow and arrange? 0:19:25.640 --> 0:19:30.719 It's growing, enjoying and arrange flowers. What's your favorite flower? 0:19:31.119 --> 0:19:33.959 I like fragrant flowers. I like lilacs. Oh, I love 0:19:34.480 --> 0:19:39.639 I like true lips, I like roses, I love you know. 0:19:39.720 --> 0:19:42.159 I I love piannies. But I feel like they become 0:19:42.280 --> 0:19:45.080 everybody's favorite flowers, so that makes me not like them. 0:19:45.760 --> 0:19:48.239 Don't don't feel like that. Now you know what I'm 0:19:48.280 --> 0:19:51.480 meant to Martha? Well, obviously hydranges, I don't. My hydranges 0:19:51.560 --> 0:19:56.680 were on steroids. They needed this year. This was the 0:19:56.800 --> 0:20:00.920 big year for hydranges, right, Oh my go apples like apple. 0:20:01.000 --> 0:20:04.360 It was crazy. But I'm really into dahlia's right now. 0:20:04.720 --> 0:20:09.040 Are fabulous. They're so pretty. They're so gigantic. Dahlias and zinnias, 0:20:09.200 --> 0:20:14.880 I think together they're pretty. They're pretty. Brian. Yes, every 0:20:14.920 --> 0:20:18.480 now and then I can surprise you. It's time to 0:20:18.560 --> 0:20:20.920 take a quick break. We'll be back with more surprises 0:20:20.960 --> 0:20:32.679 and more Martha right after this. And now back to 0:20:32.720 --> 0:20:36.560 our conversation with the one and only Martha Stewart. You're 0:20:36.640 --> 0:20:41.160 so incredibly productive, all these books and TV shows and magazines, 0:20:41.200 --> 0:20:43.280 and I ready only need four to five hours of 0:20:43.359 --> 0:20:46.640 sleep per night. Can you walk us through a typical 0:20:46.920 --> 0:20:49.920 Martha day? I mean, what did you do today? For example, 0:20:50.119 --> 0:20:52.680 Today's today's like New York, So that's not so interesting. 0:20:52.760 --> 0:20:55.920 Yesterday was a good day. Okay, Okay, so yesterday I 0:20:56.520 --> 0:20:59.239 have I don't have live in help, but I do 0:20:59.359 --> 0:21:03.680 require that my housekeeper or keepers. Sometimes I have to 0:21:03.720 --> 0:21:06.080 come in at seven, so I can't be in bed 0:21:06.119 --> 0:21:09.000 if my housekeeper comes. I just don't do that. So 0:21:09.080 --> 0:21:11.280 I get I'm up before they're up, and I take 0:21:11.520 --> 0:21:14.800 um the covers off the bird cages, and I have 0:21:15.400 --> 0:21:18.639 read factor canaries in my house. They're beautiful and they're singing. 0:21:19.000 --> 0:21:22.159 And then I have three cats and five dogs in 0:21:22.960 --> 0:21:25.600 Bedford and where I live most of the time I 0:21:25.640 --> 0:21:28.280 can I commute to New York and so um, they're 0:21:28.320 --> 0:21:30.560 they're all kindness. Am I taken care of? By the 0:21:30.640 --> 0:21:33.199 time the housekeeper comes on a Sunday. I only have 0:21:33.240 --> 0:21:37.359 one housekeeper and I have a driver who also comes. 0:21:37.560 --> 0:21:40.720 I read somewhere you have four drivers. Well yeah, but 0:21:40.760 --> 0:21:42.639 not all the same time. No, no, I know, but 0:21:42.720 --> 0:21:45.399 I have my days are days are so long and 0:21:45.440 --> 0:21:47.720 you can only they can only we can't forty hours 0:21:47.760 --> 0:21:50.760 a week and they can't be tired. So that's why. 0:21:50.960 --> 0:21:56.719 All right, but um, but is just jealous. But all right, 0:21:56.760 --> 0:21:59.440 so we've we've taken care of them. So then, um 0:21:59.480 --> 0:22:03.880 and so then I I make breakfast for everybody. So 0:22:04.000 --> 0:22:07.239 I made the cappuccinos for everybody, because the eggs come 0:22:07.280 --> 0:22:10.240 from your chickens. Right, Yes, yes, you've mentioned. We have 0:22:10.320 --> 0:22:12.760 salmon for breakfast because some a friend had sent me 0:22:12.800 --> 0:22:15.880 two beautiful big salmon's. A lion caught salmon's from Alaska 0:22:16.000 --> 0:22:17.800 last week and I had to eat them. So I 0:22:17.840 --> 0:22:20.560 poached salmon. I'm doing I'm doing a little blog on 0:22:20.640 --> 0:22:23.240 that on how to poach the salmon and its oats, 0:22:23.400 --> 0:22:27.199 pretty pictures, and so I photographed the blog and I 0:22:27.320 --> 0:22:30.359 make the salmon. No, no, we just eat it with 0:22:30.440 --> 0:22:35.280 lemon juice. It's so tasty. Yeah, like yogurt, cucumbers, nothing, 0:22:35.440 --> 0:22:38.359 nothing for breakfast. That this is breakfast and then for 0:22:38.480 --> 0:22:42.600 lunch and so then so then after that I and 0:22:42.960 --> 0:22:45.520 my green juice. We have green juice every morning. Everybody 0:22:45.600 --> 0:22:48.280 drinks green juice because it's like power. So what do 0:22:48.320 --> 0:22:53.679 you put in your green So it's spinach, celery, parsonally mint, 0:22:54.359 --> 0:22:56.840 maybe a piece of fruit of some sort, like a pear. 0:22:57.080 --> 0:22:59.800 Green pear is good. Um, a piece of melon or 0:23:00.040 --> 0:23:04.600 to papaya or mango. Whatever. It's very good juice. Everybody's 0:23:04.640 --> 0:23:09.919 delicious and very drink that. Then I went on a 0:23:09.920 --> 0:23:12.680 horseback ride, and that was at ten o'clock. I was 0:23:12.720 --> 0:23:14.639 ready for the horseback right after doing you know, getting 0:23:14.680 --> 0:23:17.879 make sure everybody's doing lots of horses and I have 0:23:17.920 --> 0:23:22.040