Speaker 1: Hi Brian, Hi Katie, and hello lovely listeners. This week,
Speaker 1: we are very excited because we're taking you all with
Speaker 1: us to Martha Stewart headquarters. Literally, well literally we interviewed
Speaker 1: Martha at her company headquarters, Martha Stewart Living Omni Media,
Speaker 1: and had a really wonderful time, didn't we We did.
Speaker 1: The offices are incredible. They take up a giant city
Speaker 1: block in Chelsea, right on the Hudson River, and they
Speaker 1: definitely passed the white glove test. They were beautiful and
Speaker 1: so clean Martha, Ladies and gentlemen, no surprise here is
Speaker 1: not particularly messy. But we also walked around the joint
Speaker 1: afterwards and that place is stocked, isn't it. It's amazing,
Speaker 1: from color coded design books to a five thousand dollar
Speaker 1: cappuccino machine that she talks about to test kitchens. And
Speaker 1: also they have tons of props for when they do shoot.
Speaker 1: They have a million different shares and napkins and tablecloths
Speaker 1: and even a bin that said Hanky's. There's even a
Speaker 1: Martha Stewart cafe in the lobby. As Martha herself might say.
Speaker 1: It's a good thing. Brian. Anyway, for nearly thirty five years,
Speaker 1: she has dominated all things domestic. She has lent her
Speaker 1: good taste and her name to everything from TV shows
Speaker 1: to cookbooks, to carpet tiles, meal kits, magazines, and much
Speaker 1: much more. She's like a cottage industry. And I think
Speaker 1: she has actually made elegance accessible and said to the
Speaker 1: average homemaker, male, female, whatever, somebody who wants to nest
Speaker 1: and make their home their castle, that it's doable and
Speaker 1: actually affordable. And Martha, after all, is the woman who
Speaker 1: New York Magazine once called an emblematic figure of our times.
Speaker 1: And in our conversation today, we wanted to get a
Speaker 1: better sense of the woman behind the empire, things like
Speaker 1: how on earth does she stay so productive? What motivates her?
Speaker 1: I mean, she's incredible. I think she's got a new
Speaker 1: cookbook out, the Slow Cooker Cookbook, which is her eighty
Speaker 1: ninth book, and we should mention she's seventy six years old.
Speaker 1: She looks amazing. But her energy, I mean she is
Speaker 1: indefatigable and no signs at all of slowing down. Just
Speaker 1: as ambitious as ever. That's right. In her latest foray
Speaker 1: into the entertainment world is a show with Snoop Dogg
Speaker 1: called pot luck dinner, which is a bit of a
Speaker 1: double Entendre came up with that name herself. Funny funny
Speaker 1: funny stuff is Johnny Carson might say. Anyway, here's our conversation,
Speaker 1: and please ignore the chewing, because we did enjoy some
Speaker 1: delicious apple Crisp. I said that like Julia Child, didn't
Speaker 1: I like Martha delicious apple? Chris. Here's our conversation with
Speaker 1: the one and only Martha Stewart. Brian, your dream finally
Speaker 1: came true. We're sitting here air with the one and
Speaker 1: only Martha Stewart, not only doing our podcast, but we're
Speaker 1: actually in Martha's office. I wanted to be in my office.
Speaker 1: You wanted to be in some dingy conference room someplace.
Speaker 1: Now we actually wanted to be on your farm in Bedford,
Speaker 1: or your estate in Maine, or your house in East Hampton.
Speaker 1: But this is much easier. I'd rather be in any
Speaker 1: of those places to spend the whole weekend with you.
Speaker 1: Another dime. Let's do a block that that would be great,
Speaker 1: a podcast in real time for a weekends. Tell us though,
Speaker 1: about this office. It's very cool, very industrial, and very white. Yes,
Speaker 1: well this was this is the st Lee High building,
Speaker 1: one of seven buildings in New York City that is
Speaker 1: one city block in size, and it was at the
Speaker 1: time it was built, it was a storage warehouse building.
Speaker 1: And when I found the space, which was almost twenty
Speaker 1: years ago, this floor, the ninth lore was about a
Speaker 1: hundred different little like switch shops. There was a letter press.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of really loud industrial kinds of
Speaker 1: company switch shops, but they were not just one big switch.
Speaker 1: That's right, it was. It was a dollar a square foot,
Speaker 1: that's what people. That was the rent whole. We have
Speaker 1: the whole floor soon to be just the south side
Speaker 1: of the floor and how many people um right now
Speaker 1: it'll be about three d people on this floor. But
Speaker 1: we have satellite offices to for other ones. I'm part
Speaker 1: of Sequential Brands Group now and the Martha brand is
Speaker 1: now licensed through Sequential, but it is but we still
Speaker 1: do our TV shows, and we still do our various
Speaker 1: and sundry other appearances, and make all our products for
Speaker 1: Macy's and and Home Depot and Michael's. And actually working
Speaker 1: harder now that I probably worked ten years ago, although
Speaker 1: who knows. I mean, I don't keep track. Before Brian
Speaker 1: interjects and has a question. I just want to mention
Speaker 1: if people here a little noise. I'm drinking a delicious
Speaker 1: Martha Stewart cappuccino and that's a Martha coffee. That's still
Speaker 1: say coffee that we sell in our cafe down on
Speaker 1: the first floor. Did you see the cafe? Did? It
Speaker 1: was so cool? What's it like walking into no building
Speaker 1: and seeing the Martha Stewart cafe. I want the Katie
Speaker 1: currentt cafe. Well, you should have one. You should have
Speaker 1: one on the coffee. Oh yes, you can buy the
Speaker 1: coffee downstairs at the cafe nowhere else and online I
Speaker 1: went on it is Martha Stewart. Martha Stewart cafe, UM
Speaker 1: dot com. We're working on a whole line of these
Speaker 1: cafes now. The whole team is down the hall working
Speaker 1: away today people from all over the country or in today,
Speaker 1: looking at and tasting samples of different things that we're
Speaker 1: going to be selling at the kind of Howard Schultz
Speaker 1: run for his money. UM. It's a very different concept
Speaker 1: as a smaller footprint. Basically in office buildings like this one.
Speaker 1: This this building has I think over five hundred people
Speaker 1: working in it, and there was no cafe. Well, looking
Speaker 1: at this wall of Emmy's that I'm staring at. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't bet against you. But before we we delve into
Speaker 1: your bio, which is something we do on this show.
Speaker 1: We do, we do, we do, But before we go
Speaker 1: all the way back. It was interesting you just mentioned
Speaker 1: your company being sold, and I think a lot of
Speaker 1: people remember that moment when Martha Stewart Living on the
Speaker 1: Media went public and you served homemade briyosh at the
Speaker 1: New York stock Et. Tell us a little bit about
Speaker 1: the journey of the company since then to the point
Speaker 1: that you're sort of selling it now you're no longer.
Speaker 1: That was the probably one of the most exciting days
Speaker 1: in my life, except for the day that my daughter
Speaker 1: Alexis was born. Uh, and maybe the day I got married,
Speaker 1: and then two days that my grandchildren were born. Uh uh,
Speaker 1: maybe my cats and my dogs, But most exciting day
Speaker 1: of your life. But I have a lot of I
Speaker 1: have a lot of pets. So this was a very
Speaker 1: exciting day going public because I had worked really hard
Speaker 1: to build a superb company, Martha Stewart Living Omnimedia, and
Speaker 1: it was kind of a cutting edge company, and this
Speaker 1: was a company that actually took into consideration the Internet,
Speaker 1: the television, the printed word, the media as well as merchandising.
Speaker 1: So it was really truly on the media. And we
Speaker 1: still are. We're still on the media. I love I
Speaker 1: love the idea of being omni media. And we took
Speaker 1: ourselves away from publishing the magazine with Time Inc. We
Speaker 1: started publishing on our own uh And that day, um,
Speaker 1: we went public at a share of I think it
Speaker 1: was eighteen dollars a share, which went up to about
Speaker 1: thirty two dollars. I was a multibillionaire at that day.
Speaker 1: It was so day. And I drove up Madison Avenue
Speaker 1: after after the long day, and I said, I said, God,
Speaker 1: I can buy pretty much anything. Did you know? I
Speaker 1: was so stupid. I should have I should have spent
Speaker 1: it all then because everything was much cheaper then than
Speaker 1: it is now. And I, well, I should have bought,
Speaker 1: could have, should have, would have, could have. That's a
Speaker 1: whole chapter in my autobiography, which I am penning right now.
Speaker 1: You are making one too. We're gonna I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: tell you anything else then because you'll you'll copy me,
Speaker 1: my sister. But that should would could is I'm sure
Speaker 1: it's a big chapter in your life too, And it's
Speaker 1: one of those things that happens to everybody. I mean you.
Speaker 1: I remember every single antique that I didn't buy it,
Speaker 1: every single auction I went to from the time I
Speaker 1: was married in nineteen sixty one. Can you imagine seem
Speaker 1: to expend of at the time. No, it just seemed
Speaker 1: though I can't afford it, or maybe it will fit.
Speaker 1: And I should have bought everything. I should have been
Speaker 1: the biggest consort because but I am a very frugal
Speaker 1: person and I still, Oh my god, and my daughter
Speaker 1: is more frugal than you are. My daughter points out
Speaker 1: all the time, why don't you have your own airplane? Mom?
Speaker 1: Why don't you have your own yacht? And the river?
Speaker 1: And you know, she she knows. I could have had
Speaker 1: pretty much anything. I still actually I've done pretty well
Speaker 1: in the real estate department, and I should still do
Speaker 1: some of those things. But I'm not an extravagant liver.
Speaker 1: I live simply personally, although I do have you know,
Speaker 1: I live on a farm up. I know, but it's simple.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I I looked at your blog the
Speaker 1: last few days preparing for this interview, and I thought,
Speaker 1: who lives like this, maybe the Queen of England. No,
Speaker 1: I think the Queen of England and Martha I don't
Speaker 1: have fault, but we have a lot of staff anyway. Well,
Speaker 1: I think the thing about Martha's that, you know, I've
Speaker 1: always thought that you have made elegance accessible and I
Speaker 1: think you predated sort of this whole notion of nesting
Speaker 1: and of making beautiful things and making a house a
Speaker 1: home and all that, And what what made you realize
Speaker 1: that there was an appetite for that in this country.
Speaker 1: I was brought up by a mother who really took
Speaker 1: the art of homemaking to the next level. She made everything,
Speaker 1: She sewed our clothes, she canned the tomatoes, she made
Speaker 1: a delicious meal three times a day for eight people.
Speaker 1: My mom was you know, she was a very good
Speaker 1: example to me of wanting to elevate a simple life
Speaker 1: into a good, really good life, healthy life. And we
Speaker 1: were simple, I mean we I lived in a in
Speaker 1: a three bedroom house on Elm Place and the New
Speaker 1: Jersey see which I go back to see sometimes that
Speaker 1: people almost had a heart attack when I knocked on
Speaker 1: the door the last time, And did you bring them
Speaker 1: some cookies? At least? So I just went to I said,
Speaker 1: you know, I used to live here. They said, we
Speaker 1: know you used, and uh, could I please see my
Speaker 1: old bedroom which I shared with my sister Kathy, And
Speaker 1: I would put Kathy on the right hand side of
Speaker 1: the bed, which had the night light where I could read.
Speaker 1: I would make her go to sleep on that side
Speaker 1: to warm the bed because we didn't keep it. We
Speaker 1: kept the house pretty cold, saving fuel all that stuff. Um.
Speaker 1: And so then I would drag her to her side
Speaker 1: of the bed. Before Martha was in, she had six
Speaker 1: years younger. She she has not forgiven me. Believe me. Um,
Speaker 1: it sounds like your your mom was like the CEO
Speaker 1: of the house. Well she was. She was pretty much
Speaker 1: my dad was the CEO of the garden and the
Speaker 1: fixture upper of the place. Uh. And we had an
Speaker 1: next door neighbors. We could throw a stone and hit
Speaker 1: the next door neighbors door, you know, but we were
Speaker 1: friends with our neighbors. We had. It was a nice street.
Speaker 1: It was a very pleasant place to grow up. And
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people imagine you're like this
Speaker 1: major wasp, and I know I'm I'm a daughter of
Speaker 1: two Polish American people. They were born here but my grandparents,
Speaker 1: all four grandparents were born in Poland, and they came
Speaker 1: to the United States on ships, and you know, they
Speaker 1: could see the island where they landed, right here in
Speaker 1: New York Harbor, and they signed in and two went
Speaker 1: to Buffalo, New York. My grandfather was a trained in
Speaker 1: My grandfather was ski My mother's father was a trained
Speaker 1: iron monger decorative iron work, and uh, and my other
Speaker 1: my father's family all moved to Jersey City. I think
Speaker 1: about you because I know how close you were to
Speaker 1: your mom, Big Martha, unbelievably close. And and did you
Speaker 1: ever come on the Today Show with me? You know,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like she might have, but
Speaker 1: I feel like I've met her definitely, and I know
Speaker 1: you always spoke of her. And it was really really
Speaker 1: great mother. Uh, and one of those mothers who had
Speaker 1: six kids and every child was equal, no matter what,
Speaker 1: no matter what the bad things we did, we were
Speaker 1: all equal. And then my parents and that was until
Speaker 1: the day she died. We were all equally all around
Speaker 1: her bed when she died. And she died at four
Speaker 1: and almost ninety four years old. So she's she had
Speaker 1: a great life, never sick. She just finally decided it
Speaker 1: was time. How many years ago was that that was about?
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't remember things like years, um, which
Speaker 1: is a good thing. Do you remember things are years? Well?
Speaker 1: I remember, I do. My mom died three years ago
Speaker 1: on day and and and so I remember everything, but
Speaker 1: not I just I think about my mom so much,
Speaker 1: and I missed her so much. So I wondered if
Speaker 1: you felt the same. I missed my mother a lot,
Speaker 1: and I wonder, I wonder, you know, what would mother
Speaker 1: think about this or that? Um, when I'm making a
Speaker 1: delicious meal. She would come over on Sundays, pretty much
Speaker 1: every Sunday from from Western Connecticut where she lived with
Speaker 1: my sister Laura. She would drive herself and then when
Speaker 1: she got in past ninety, I used to sit and
Speaker 1: send somebody to pick her up. Um, and she would
Speaker 1: come to my house and eat the healthiest, delicious lunch.
Speaker 1: She had a great appetite that she'd take a walk
Speaker 1: with me. Then she'd have a massage. I always got
Speaker 1: my massure over for mom, and uh, and we'd go
Speaker 1: to a movie and she'd have a fabulous day and um,
Speaker 1: but she was What I really loved about her was
Speaker 1: that egalitarian attitude towards all of her children, and so
Speaker 1: even though her daughter was rich and famous, the other
Speaker 1: five kids were just as famous, just as successful in
Speaker 1: her eyes. Yeah, So it occurred to me as we
Speaker 1: were preparing for this that you know, you were a
Speaker 1: model early in your career. You were a stockbroker for
Speaker 1: several years, and you didn't really become quote Martha Stewart
Speaker 1: until you were in forty. I was a late bloomer,
Speaker 1: which is like Julia Child. Actually that's who it reminded
Speaker 1: me of. I was a late bloomer. And my gynecologist,
Speaker 1: uh there, I don't know he even called me a
Speaker 1: late bloomer. So in what context? And because said that
Speaker 1: I was a late bloomer in terms of my in
Speaker 1: terms of my business life. And isn't that funny that
Speaker 1: your doctor would call you a late bloomer? I thought
Speaker 1: it was great, like like my gardener calling me a
Speaker 1: late bloomer. So when your first book came out, well,
Speaker 1: I Martha didn't really answer that earlier question though, which is,
Speaker 1: how did you know that this was a really potentially
Speaker 1: huge market for what you were saying After being a
Speaker 1: stockbroker and and working with people's money. I then retired
Speaker 1: to Westport, and I did started looking around for what
Speaker 1: you were doing, a catering business, and I started a
Speaker 1: catering business with a friend called Norma Collier, and she
Speaker 1: was a famous mall it at the time, and she
Speaker 1: wanted to have a business too, So we started this
Speaker 1: catering business dealing with people's appetites other than their and
Speaker 1: not their pocketbooks really but the same thing. And they
Speaker 1: were very similar. I mean, people could be real nasty
Speaker 1: or real nice, money or appetite. And then Norma had
Speaker 1: to retire early because she was way too hard the work.
Speaker 1: And I liked the physical labor. I liked the building
Speaker 1: a restaurant every night and then breaking it down and
Speaker 1: cleaning the cards. I mean, believe me, I'm a glutton
Speaker 1: for punishment worker. I am. I am a worker. B
Speaker 1: I just brought up like that. But um, I realized
Speaker 1: that the art of homemaking really and truly had not
Speaker 1: been celebrated in an appropriate way. And I thought of
Speaker 1: my mother all the time. Here's this fabulous woman who
Speaker 1: was also a very hard worker, but she hadn't been
Speaker 1: celebrated as a homemaker. And to be able to raise
Speaker 1: the kids on they were making when my when my
Speaker 1: mother wasn't teaching, my father was working. They were living
Speaker 1: on a salary of about eleven thousand a year. And
Speaker 1: this is a long time ago, but still that's very
Speaker 1: little money to manage. That's why the garden was so good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why the garden was so big. That's why the
Speaker 1: clothing was made by hand. The sewing machine was always busy.
Speaker 1: Mom didn't get very many hours of sleep, you know,
Speaker 1: the whole thing. And we were not poor. We did
Speaker 1: not consider ourselves poor in any way. So when did
Speaker 1: you realize that this thing you were doing, that homemaking
Speaker 1: and cooking and sewing and gardening, could become a business.
Speaker 1: And well, I started writing books in two And I'm
Speaker 1: sure you have my Entertaining Book, because I probably and
Speaker 1: I actually still remember the pretty picture of you on
Speaker 1: the cover. Your hair was long and I think it
Speaker 1: was maybe in a half updo or something, and I yes,
Speaker 1: and I remember your basket weave um with frosting. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it wasn't that in there? Oh yeah, definitely. Well I
Speaker 1: think I read that before I started. I started to
Speaker 1: write books because I started, I started to realize that
Speaker 1: my friends were just like me. We all needed some
Speaker 1: encouragement to entertain better. We needed better recipes that could
Speaker 1: be done, that aren't weren't too complicated, And there were
Speaker 1: no at that time, very few illustrated cookbooks. And I,
Speaker 1: you know, I consider myself as crazy, I know, but
Speaker 1: I considered myself kind of a really good cook at
Speaker 1: the time. And so I wrote this book entertaining and
Speaker 1: my publisher I remember saying, if you sell ten thousand copies,
Speaker 1: you should be happy. I said, I know twenty five
Speaker 1: thousand people who will buy this book, because I have
Speaker 1: been catering for a while and I had all South
Speaker 1: Bese clients. I had the museums in New York hired
Speaker 1: my me for my services. I did parties at the
Speaker 1: Metropolitan Museum of Art. How many didn't. So it's it's
Speaker 1: way way over a million copies. So um, I don't
Speaker 1: know the latest. I should, I should know the exact number.
Speaker 1: But you don't wake up in the morning and say,
Speaker 1: let's look and see. I'm sure. I'm sure it's way
Speaker 1: over because by the way, that was for the first
Speaker 1: of what over a Well, we're up to we're up
Speaker 1: to ninety now, and we just published here this is
Speaker 1: the right. That's what a new one called Slow Cooker nine.
Speaker 1: And then the Newlywed cookbooks coming out very shortly, and
Speaker 1: that will be our nine. And then Martha's Flowers comes
Speaker 1: out in February. I'm excited about that. So does that
Speaker 1: teach you how to arrange flowers? How to grow and arrange?
Speaker 1: It's growing, enjoying and arrange flowers. What's your favorite flower?
Speaker 1: I like fragrant flowers. I like lilacs. Oh, I love
Speaker 1: I like true lips, I like roses, I love you know.
Speaker 1: I I love piannies. But I feel like they become
Speaker 1: everybody's favorite flowers, so that makes me not like them.
Speaker 1: Don't don't feel like that. Now you know what I'm
Speaker 1: meant to Martha? Well, obviously hydranges, I don't. My hydranges
Speaker 1: were on steroids. They needed this year. This was the
Speaker 1: big year for hydranges, right, Oh my go apples like apple.
Speaker 1: It was crazy. But I'm really into dahlia's right now.
Speaker 1: Are fabulous. They're so pretty. They're so gigantic. Dahlias and zinnias,
Speaker 1: I think together they're pretty. They're pretty. Brian. Yes, every
Speaker 1: now and then I can surprise you. It's time to
Speaker 1: take a quick break. We'll be back with more surprises
Speaker 1: and more Martha right after this. And now back to
Speaker 1: our conversation with the one and only Martha Stewart. You're
Speaker 1: so incredibly productive, all these books and TV shows and magazines,
Speaker 1: and I ready only need four to five hours of
Speaker 1: sleep per night. Can you walk us through a typical
Speaker 1: Martha day? I mean, what did you do today? For example,
Speaker 1: Today's today's like New York, So that's not so interesting.
Speaker 1: Yesterday was a good day. Okay, Okay, so yesterday I
Speaker 1: have I don't have live in help, but I do
Speaker 1: require that my housekeeper or keepers. Sometimes I have to
Speaker 1: come in at seven, so I can't be in bed
Speaker 1: if my housekeeper comes. I just don't do that. So
Speaker 1: I get I'm up before they're up, and I take
Speaker 1: um the covers off the bird cages, and I have
Speaker 1: read factor canaries in my house. They're beautiful and they're singing.
Speaker 1: And then I have three cats and five dogs in
Speaker 1: Bedford and where I live most of the time I
Speaker 1: can I commute to New York and so um, they're
Speaker 1: they're all kindness. Am I taken care of? By the
Speaker 1: time the housekeeper comes on a Sunday. I only have
Speaker 1: one housekeeper and I have a driver who also comes.
Speaker 1: I read somewhere you have four drivers. Well yeah, but
Speaker 1: not all the same time. No, no, I know, but
Speaker 1: I have my days are days are so long and
Speaker 1: you can only they can only we can't forty hours
Speaker 1: a week and they can't be tired. So that's why.
Speaker 1: All right, but um, but is just jealous. But all right,
Speaker 1: so we've we've taken care of them. So then, um
Speaker 1: and so then I I make breakfast for everybody. So
Speaker 1: I made the cappuccinos for everybody, because the eggs come
Speaker 1: from your chickens. Right, Yes, yes, you've mentioned. We have
Speaker 1: salmon for breakfast because some a friend had sent me
Speaker 1: two beautiful big salmon's. A lion caught salmon's from Alaska
Speaker 1: last week and I had to eat them. So I
Speaker 1: poached salmon. I'm doing I'm doing a little blog on
Speaker 1: that on how to poach the salmon and its oats,
Speaker 1: pretty pictures, and so I photographed the blog and I
Speaker 1: make the salmon. No, no, we just eat it with
Speaker 1: lemon juice. It's so tasty. Yeah, like yogurt, cucumbers, nothing,
Speaker 1: nothing for breakfast. That this is breakfast and then for
Speaker 1: lunch and so then so then after that I and
Speaker 1: my green juice. We have green juice every morning. Everybody
Speaker 1: drinks green juice because it's like power. So what do
Speaker 1: you put in your green So it's spinach, celery, parsonally mint,
Speaker 1: maybe a piece of fruit of some sort, like a pear.
Speaker 1: Green pear is good. Um, a piece of melon or
Speaker 1: to papaya or mango. Whatever. It's very good juice. Everybody's
Speaker 1: delicious and very drink that. Then I went on a
Speaker 1: horseback ride, and that was at ten o'clock. I was
Speaker 1: ready for the horseback right after doing you know, getting
Speaker 1: make sure everybody's doing lots of horses and I have
Speaker 1: six horses. And so yesterday I rode Rins and my
Speaker 1: uh and my horse groom Sarah, she rode Ramon and
Speaker 1: we went off property and two and a half hours
Speaker 1: later came home. I was dying, as is a long
Speaker 1: horseback ride, and we were doing a lot of trotting.
Speaker 1: And that we went down Maple Avenue and through the woods,
Speaker 1: and Bedford has a has a series of bridle trails
Speaker 1: about three hundred miles, so you can get lost, you
Speaker 1: can have a good time does Ralph Lauren live up there?
Speaker 1: He was extraor to me, we like, hey, Ralph, Martha, Hi,
Speaker 1: Ralph riding by. I'm I'm the farm at to Ralph's stay. Eat.
Speaker 1: I'm the farm at Okay, yes, the modest farm next
Speaker 1: to Ralph, a very nice neighbor. And then, oh, I
Speaker 1: should have told you. Then then I'll tell you about
Speaker 1: Friday night afterwards. But and then I came back from
Speaker 1: the horseback ride. I made the lunch, so I sautade
Speaker 1: some onions from the garden, fresh onions, and some red
Speaker 1: and yellow peppers, and I made a for Tata, delicious
Speaker 1: for Tata, studded with little lots of cream cheese, which
Speaker 1: I like for Tata. I don't know why, but I
Speaker 1: just like it. And I we had little cheese puffs
Speaker 1: that were left over from Friday night supper. And that
Speaker 1: was a salad of dark red and green lettuce um
Speaker 1: from a night's supper, the one that was on the blog.
Speaker 1: But you, and then when I didn't finish my day though,
Speaker 1: then sorry, then can I just interrupt and ask a question?
Speaker 1: How many people did you prepare lunch for? And did
Speaker 1: you have no? No, it was just just the people
Speaker 1: who were hanging, you know, working around in the place.
Speaker 1: So Carlo's Jama and Frank and who else was there yesterday?
Speaker 1: A dawa. Then we made fifty gallons of apple cider,
Speaker 1: or would you bring some of that apple cider over here?
Speaker 1: Fifty gallons of this and you know how hard it
Speaker 1: is to crush the apples. It's delicious apple. Take a sip,
Speaker 1: it's so good. What kind of apples did you use?
Speaker 1: Who knows? On my property? We must have fifty varieties
Speaker 1: of apps, so delicious I've ever had. We compare it
Speaker 1: to other I think it's really what makes it so good,
Speaker 1: just the variety of apples, I think. Um. So we
Speaker 1: did that. And while they were doing that, I shucked
Speaker 1: and scraped the corn off, about maybe sixty ears of corn.
Speaker 1: And I searched and I saw tade all the kernels
Speaker 1: and a little bit of butter with some some water,
Speaker 1: and then I froze. I think I froze ten quarts
Speaker 1: of corn kernels. And then I made a great pot
Speaker 1: of from again, there's so many tomatoes. I made a
Speaker 1: great pot of tomato soup, just tomatoes and onions. Just
Speaker 1: threw them all in this giant pot and cooked and
Speaker 1: cooked and cooked until then put it through the food
Speaker 1: so you get all the seeds and skits on. I
Speaker 1: think we made eight quarts of tomato soup and relaxing Sunday.
Speaker 1: So then I went, Oh, my friend called Memory. My
Speaker 1: friend Memory called and said, you have to go see
Speaker 1: this garden. It's on the open days and Greenwich open
Speaker 1: Days is the Garden Conservancy, which is a very fantastic organization.
Speaker 1: I belonged to that, and people who belong open their
Speaker 1: gardens to other gardeners. So I went to see Mr
Speaker 1: Landman's garden and Greenwich, which is incredible, fifteen acre garden.
Speaker 1: Made me sick because because if I feel jen we're
Speaker 1: happy for him. When I when I get jealous, the
Speaker 1: only time I ever jealous, it's not envy, it's just jealous.
Speaker 1: I it's anyway. His garden is so beautiful. Then I
Speaker 1: went to see my friend Memory, who was lying in
Speaker 1: bed because she has a cut on her leg. Who knows.
Speaker 1: And then I left there. I got in a bad
Speaker 1: mood because she was in bed. And then I went
Speaker 1: home and I went we searched for my missing peacocks.
Speaker 1: Were always missing two peacocks. They were out eating with
Speaker 1: the it's a busy day. It is a busy day.
Speaker 1: It sounds fun, it is fun. The peacocks were hanging
Speaker 1: out with the wild turkeys. Now there's a gang of
Speaker 1: five wild male turkeys and my two male peacocks that
Speaker 1: I allow out of their enclosure. Uh, they have kind
Speaker 1: of befriended the wild turkeys. And is there any nookie
Speaker 1: going on? Peacocks a band of boys and uh, so
Speaker 1: we could tell her forever. I mean, you don't know,
Speaker 1: these are so silly. I hope this is not boring
Speaker 1: to you. Love you love. I went to get a massage.
Speaker 1: I went to a Chinese reflexology and did something where.
Speaker 1: Then I went home and I did a little bit
Speaker 1: more cooking. But I had a column do this morning,
Speaker 1: so I had to work on my column on the
Speaker 1: restoration of furniture. So I had to write that, and
Speaker 1: then I went and watched the Emmys. Thank god the
Speaker 1: Emmys were on, because I had such a good time
Speaker 1: watching the Emmy's and that relaxed me. And that's that
Speaker 1: was my day. See, that's the Sunday. So speaking of
Speaker 1: Donald Trump, right, because that was the topic when he
Speaker 1: absolutely should have won. And by the way, didn't Alec
Speaker 1: look good. Lass he looks so good. I thought he
Speaker 1: looks so it's a couple of and he looked great. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you were there and that was a fun night and
Speaker 1: opening night of the the US Open. But can I
Speaker 1: ask you about him seriously because after um, well there's
Speaker 1: another topic. But after your release from prison, you did
Speaker 1: Martha Stewart the Apprentice or the apprent to Martha Stewart
Speaker 1: and this office. It was right here in this office.
Speaker 1: We built their bedrooms, here, their kitchens. The whole thing
Speaker 1: was the most monstrous production you have ever seen. And
Speaker 1: Donald Trump was the executive producer of it. Well, yes,
Speaker 1: one with Mark Burnett. And Mark Burnett promised me when
Speaker 1: I agreed to do it, that I would fire Donald
Speaker 1: at the end of my show, that Donald, we're going
Speaker 1: to replace him. Yes, and Donald did not want to
Speaker 1: be replaced. By the time of Blind President, I know,
Speaker 1: he maligned my show so badly. He was nasty. Well, no,
Speaker 1: who knows why he wanted. He wanted to stay on TV.
Speaker 1: He had he had, you know, he drank the kool
Speaker 1: aid and he loved it so much. I show did
Speaker 1: really well in Europe, and it did really well in Japan.
Speaker 1: But um, but the ratings in America were not as
Speaker 1: good as Donald's ratings. But I was as outrageous as
Speaker 1: Donald either. I think people like outrage and as know,
Speaker 1: after this whole year, Um and so so. But he
Speaker 1: but we remained, uh some semi cordial. And what did
Speaker 1: you learn about him from working with him? Well, he
Speaker 1: had very little to do with my show. What did
Speaker 1: you learn about him from what he said about you around?
Speaker 1: I was not happy and my daughter. He said nasty
Speaker 1: things about my daughter and she was on the radio
Speaker 1: at the time he was, and she was on the
Speaker 1: Apprentice for a little bit and I did not like that,
Speaker 1: and none of us did, and it was not nice.
Speaker 1: I would never say anything untoward of his about his children.
Speaker 1: You don't talk about people's children, but he does. How
Speaker 1: do you think he's doing as president? Do we have
Speaker 1: to really get there? I was not. I was not.
Speaker 1: I'm not happy at the state of things at all.
Speaker 1: You were a big Hillary Clinton supporter. Did you have
Speaker 1: you read her new book yet? No? I haven't. I've
Speaker 1: I've listened to many of the interviews and have you
Speaker 1: have you interviewed here? We had an interviewed or where
Speaker 1: hoping to get her on our podcast. You know, she
Speaker 1: had known her. I did her first interview when she
Speaker 1: became First Lady in the early I remember, I remember,
Speaker 1: and I saw her in the attempt. And she was
Speaker 1: walking on Louie Pond Lane the other day, really, and
Speaker 1: I was walking my dogs and she I bumped into
Speaker 1: I saw the black van's first and I thought, oh God,
Speaker 1: who's coming? And it was Hillary. She know, she was
Speaker 1: with a friend, Liz Robbins, and we talked for quite
Speaker 1: a while standing there in the middle of the street.
Speaker 1: And uh, and she looked well and she told me
Speaker 1: her book was just about to be released. It was right,
Speaker 1: I guess it was a week before her book came out.
Speaker 1: And um, so I haven't read it yet, but but
Speaker 1: she has to speak out, she has to say what
Speaker 1: she said. And uh, and you know, it's a it's
Speaker 1: too bad. She's really damned if she does. Damned if
Speaker 1: she does. And I mean I've been, I've been, I guess,
Speaker 1: not surprised, but it's still I'm always taken aback at
Speaker 1: the vitriol and hatred that is directed at her. And
Speaker 1: you know, well, today I saw Bernie Sanders on Morning
Speaker 1: Joe now he I don't know if he was on
Speaker 1: there or they were just they were just showing film
Speaker 1: with Bernie. Nobody has pointed out Bernie saying, oh, I
Speaker 1: did so much to support Hillary this. Why isn't anybody
Speaker 1: pointing out that Bernie Sanders lost the election. Well, a
Speaker 1: lot of his supporters are kind of of the view
Speaker 1: that she stole it with the super delegates, and nothing
Speaker 1: could be more wrong. She actually beat him fifty in
Speaker 1: terms of the popular vote in the primaries, but that's
Speaker 1: not the that's not the approach. Like he he really
Speaker 1: disturbed the election by being the third kendidate, Bernie Sanders,
Speaker 1: and I never felt as if he really supported her
Speaker 1: fully And all those shots of her, of Bernie at
Speaker 1: the convention, he looked like he'd been sucking on a limit, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, he did not look particularly pleased or supportive.
Speaker 1: I mean, I wouldn't want my supporters that she is.
Speaker 1: If she had put him on the ballot as the
Speaker 1: vice president, that would have helped a lot. So you've
Speaker 1: been on the receiving end of some sexist treatment and behavior.
Speaker 1: How big of a role do you think sexist and
Speaker 1: played in the election last year? A lot a lot. Obviously,
Speaker 1: I think people still are not comfortable. Not all, not
Speaker 1: all people, but many people are still uncomfortable with the
Speaker 1: notion of a woman in power very much. So. I'm
Speaker 1: sure you've dealt with that, oh, of course, But but
Speaker 1: I'm strong enough to sort of brush it off. And
Speaker 1: when you're running for president's pretty hard just to brush
Speaker 1: it off. Although I probably would have behaved a lot
Speaker 1: differently than Hillary did on those debate stages, what would
Speaker 1: you have done? I told him to get lost. I mean,
Speaker 1: she she was calling her names, and she wasn't calling
Speaker 1: him names. Call him some names. Really, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Do you catch her decor? Room did not, She didn't.
Speaker 1: I don't think people have to be so decorous to
Speaker 1: ugly people. What's the what's the old line about you
Speaker 1: get into a mud pit with a pig and the
Speaker 1: pig is gonna win. Let me ask you. The one thing,
Speaker 1: uh many questions we had, Martha, is and I don't
Speaker 1: think you've talked about it that much, is you know,
Speaker 1: I look at you and everything you've accomplished, and then
Speaker 1: you had this moment in your life when you were
Speaker 1: in prison, and I imagine in my mind's eye that
Speaker 1: was sal I went to Yale for five months. I
Speaker 1: read a lot, I learned a lot. And what was
Speaker 1: that like for you mean, was that sort of like?
Speaker 1: It was horrifying. It was horrifying. And no one, no
Speaker 1: one should have to go through that kind of indignity,
Speaker 1: really except for murderers, and and you know there are
Speaker 1: a few other categories, but no one should have to
Speaker 1: go through that. It's a very very awful thing. Having
Speaker 1: said that, I mean, was it a growth experience in
Speaker 1: any way? I know that you would read out to
Speaker 1: a lot of the other women, and you can make
Speaker 1: lemons out of lemonade, and what what? What hurts you
Speaker 1: makes you stronger? No, none of those adages fit at all.
Speaker 1: It's a horrible experience. Nothing is good about it. Nothing
Speaker 1: was What was so horrible about it? Oh, being taken
Speaker 1: away from your family, being maligned, being treated the way
Speaker 1: you were treated, it's horrible, um, and especially when one
Speaker 1: does not feel one deserves such a thing. I mean,
Speaker 1: I was not a bad person. Well, I think a
Speaker 1: lot of people are under the misconception that you were
Speaker 1: convicted of insider trading. You were You were not. I
Speaker 1: wasn't even accused of insider trading. But I don't want
Speaker 1: to get into that either. I mean, it's just like
Speaker 1: like and one thing I do not ever want is
Speaker 1: to be identified or I don't want that to be
Speaker 1: the major thing of my life. It's just not it's
Speaker 1: just not fair. But um, but it's not a good
Speaker 1: experience and it doesn't make you stronger. I was a
Speaker 1: strong person to start with, and thank Heavens, I was,
Speaker 1: and I can still hold my head up high and
Speaker 1: know that I'm fine. Did you get to know any
Speaker 1: of your fellow inmates and what was that like? I
Speaker 1: know you helped them with certain things and become friendly
Speaker 1: with them. Um, No, I'm not really friendly. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: say that. As much as I tried. I've tried to
Speaker 1: help certain of them. Um, there are lots and lots
Speaker 1: of odd stories and disturbing things that go on in
Speaker 1: a in a incarceration like that, even a minimum security, well,
Speaker 1: you couldn't walk in minimum security. Still couldn't walk out
Speaker 1: the gate, you know, across the river. Um it was. Um,
Speaker 1: there's still guards and they're still it's still nasty and
Speaker 1: it's still but but that's that's America has so many
Speaker 1: people in prison. You go to Finland and there's about
Speaker 1: I think there's like a hundred people in prison in
Speaker 1: Finland or some tiny number. Uh. They don't believe in
Speaker 1: in that kind of incarceration. Uh, And I don't think
Speaker 1: we should have the numbers of people in prison. And
Speaker 1: the most of the women that were in this in
Speaker 1: this institution were there because of the New York state
Speaker 1: drug laws. And now we have legalized marijuana in seven states.
Speaker 1: I think it is Uh, that's incredible. And those and
Speaker 1: people who had a few ounces of marijuana on them
Speaker 1: and are in there for twenty years, it just doesn't
Speaker 1: make sense to some of those people get to be
Speaker 1: released as as a result. I know that there was
Speaker 1: a big movement with President Obama to change sort of
Speaker 1: minimum mandatory. Much was done, not not enough was done.
Speaker 1: So on a happier note, you've had this friendship with
Speaker 1: Snoop Dogg. But I think as uh surprised and delighted
Speaker 1: some of your some of your fans more just surprised
Speaker 1: others of your people. People seem to really like our
Speaker 1: public dinner party. Yeah no, there of course there's a
Speaker 1: double one ding Sarcastic. That was my name. I came
Speaker 1: up with that name. He did just very get to
Speaker 1: know each other. The green we had the green meal,
Speaker 1: we had all kinds of stuff, funny names. Well, he
Speaker 1: was on My show a couple of times, and he
Speaker 1: was always just a pleasant guest and fun and made
Speaker 1: people and and the response was always good. Did you
Speaker 1: get a contact high from the green room after he
Speaker 1: came not in New York? He didn't. He didn't partaken,
Speaker 1: and he was on my my show once and honestly,
Speaker 1: I opened the door and it was like one of
Speaker 1: those cartoons where this smoke just billowed down. I think,
Speaker 1: I think, I don't. I think that's probably why he
Speaker 1: doesn't come to New York very much, because he's not
Speaker 1: free to just that's true. This was in California, yea,
Speaker 1: oh no, California, and then um, and then you go
Speaker 1: to then Um we did the Justin Bieber Roast together
Speaker 1: and that was that which is hilarious for anybody. It was.
Speaker 1: It was hilarious. And there I did get a contact
Speaker 1: high sitting next to him for four hours on the stage.
Speaker 1: Oh you couldn't help it. I mean he had these
Speaker 1: you know, he was smoking for four hours right next
Speaker 1: to us. Oh yeah, soun doing the show with him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it really is fun and it's um. I call it
Speaker 1: a melding of cultures. I mean, here's Compton and Nutley
Speaker 1: probably not so probably not so different. Way down under.
Speaker 1: I met his mother. He brought his mother to the show.
Speaker 1: She's a lovely lady, very intelligent, very well spoken. He
Speaker 1: had other family members there. I mean, it's it's kind
Speaker 1: of an interesting situation. And then we have these great
Speaker 1: guests and we cook, and he's a fun cook. He
Speaker 1: and he is his uncle Rio, who is this jovial um,
Speaker 1: very fancily dressed on gentlemen, who wears very jazzy clothes,
Speaker 1: you know, spats and gold suits and whatever and hats
Speaker 1: and anyway, Uncle Rio kind of creates all the recipes
Speaker 1: for Snoop and my my straight laced team of Thomas,
Speaker 1: Joseph and uh and the rest of the kitchen here
Speaker 1: they're they're all like but it's fun. I mean, it's fun.
Speaker 1: I think, what's so great about you? You you're always
Speaker 1: reinventing yourself. You're always Change is good. That's one of
Speaker 1: my mottos. Change is good. And when you're through changing,
Speaker 1: you're through in my book, So and you've done that
Speaker 1: you've changed, You've changed so nicely and evolved, and I've tried,
Speaker 1: but you do you do, You're you're You're prettier now
Speaker 1: than you were when I first met you, by the way,
Speaker 1: And uh, I think it's because I had such a
Speaker 1: fat pace when I was younger, and aging makes you
Speaker 1: kind of hollow at a little bit. But had had
Speaker 1: enough excess that I don't look on you not now
Speaker 1: look normal, right, you look great, And so I think
Speaker 1: all of that is uh, is good and um, and
Speaker 1: it's been it's been interesting to also challenge myself. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's hard to go on the stage with Jamie Foxx
Speaker 1: and um Puff Daddy or PGTT or whatever his name
Speaker 1: is now and uh us sure and all those guys
Speaker 1: and and uh a little YACHTI And it's extraordinary the
Speaker 1: talent that comes on our show. Really amazing challenge. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's fun. And meanwhile, UM, as a business person, I'm curious,
Speaker 1: as a hugely successful woman in business, what do you
Speaker 1: think are the most important lessons you've learned along the way,
Speaker 1: Because I don't know, I'm at the point in my
Speaker 1: career that I want to mentor more young women, and
Speaker 1: so what would you tell them, well, it's UM. It's
Speaker 1: all about having ideas, having energy to grow those ideas
Speaker 1: into something UM, and having the wherewithal, whether it be
Speaker 1: personal or borrowed or education, to build something of lasting value.
Speaker 1: And I think just my library of books is of
Speaker 1: lasting value. Many of the other things that I've done also,
Speaker 1: I think will have a lasting value. Building a brand
Speaker 1: is interesting, but it's unless it's a really good brand
Speaker 1: and has a wide audience. Uh. What the heck, I'm
Speaker 1: not a Bill Gates. I didn't I didn't invent software.
Speaker 1: I wish I had. But in the meantime, I utilize
Speaker 1: what's available and and learning how to use what's new
Speaker 1: and different has made a big difference in my business.
Speaker 1: And I think learning you know, when I started my business,
Speaker 1: the internet was a baby uh and but I had
Speaker 1: a computer. I learned how to use that computer. I
Speaker 1: learned how to to to write and and uh and
Speaker 1: use the internet to do research to do all of
Speaker 1: the things. Now, social media is another challenge for all
Speaker 1: of us. How do we how do we maneuver and
Speaker 1: uh and uh and negotiate social media to make a
Speaker 1: difference without wasting a tremendous amount of time doing so,
Speaker 1: so a lot of plays open to open to new
Speaker 1: ideas and to and to I was I'm one of
Speaker 1: the early adopters of the computer. Believe it or not.
Speaker 1: I mean, isn't that crazy? But I am. And two,
Speaker 1: I got my first computer. When did you get your computer?
Speaker 1: Were you born yet? I was when I was just born.
Speaker 1: When did I got my first computer? I think it
Speaker 1: was in the late eighties at some point. I got
Speaker 1: my adrink in the early nineties. Well when I oh, no, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think in the early or even late eighties, when
Speaker 1: broadcasting wasn't using computers in We were the first magazine
Speaker 1: to design on an Apple and that's why I wanted you.
Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure that we were doing it
Speaker 1: in the new and different way. It was no cutting
Speaker 1: and pasting on the big tables, so it's a it's
Speaker 1: that So making use of what's available currently available was
Speaker 1: very important to me. My dad used to say that
Speaker 1: you really had to stay on top of this ever
Speaker 1: changing world. And I think now more than ever it's
Speaker 1: a good thing. As you would say, Martha, By the way,
Speaker 1: do you remember when I gave you the Matrix Award?
Speaker 1: So I you know, I worked so hard on this poem,
Speaker 1: and I have to just repeat the first couple of
Speaker 1: verses and in communications, and Martha was, of course so deserving.
Speaker 1: I remembered. I was terrified because the dais was full
Speaker 1: of very impressive women that year. Of course you and
Speaker 1: then Whoopi Goldberg, and I think Amy tan and and
Speaker 1: Richards and all these people. But I was what went
Speaker 1: before me, and I was like, oh, I'm I'm screwed
Speaker 1: because she's so funny and relaxed, and I was a
Speaker 1: nervous wreck. But I had worked really hard on a
Speaker 1: poem for Martha, and it went like this, Martha, Dear Martha,
Speaker 1: what should I do? These people have asked me to
Speaker 1: introduce you. I haven't eaten, I haven't slept. Talk about
Speaker 1: making a girl fill in at anything I can do,
Speaker 1: you can do better dipping a candle, knitting a sweater.
Speaker 1: A room needs repainting, you'll make it, saying with Robin's
Speaker 1: a blue because it's a good thing. And only a
Speaker 1: woman who's in your position makes a gingerbread house. This
Speaker 1: air condition tartar ta marsi, pacco vent to, bruschetta panchetta
Speaker 1: is not all you can do your holiday meals are
Speaker 1: a feast for the eyes. Why can't you use stovetop?
Speaker 1: And Mrs smiss pies anyway, went on and on anyway,
Speaker 1: why heart, Well, you know what I think what. I
Speaker 1: worked so hard on this and it was so much
Speaker 1: fun to do and I was so honored to be
Speaker 1: asked to present it to you. Um. So that's one
Speaker 1: of my my favorite poems because my dad said I write.
Speaker 1: My dad used to say I write dogg rol, not poetry. Um.
Speaker 1: By the way, before we go, we have a listener
Speaker 1: voicemail question. We have a listener who called in with
Speaker 1: a question for Martha. Okay, I am calling from St. Pete, Florida,
Speaker 1: where I'm reading Martha Stewart Living by the Light of
Speaker 1: a lantern because I'm still without power. But I've always
Speaker 1: been curious about whether or not Martha Stewart has ever
Speaker 1: done something she shouldn't have done, like stood up on
Speaker 1: a chair instead of a ladder, or didn't we have
Speaker 1: the safety glasses she was supposed to do. She's trying
Speaker 1: to have all how to do things right, but I'm
Speaker 1: just wondering about where she's made some goose that taught
Speaker 1: her a lesson. Well, Oh, my gosh, that's a good one.
Speaker 1: That's your biggest screw up. My biggest grew up was
Speaker 1: riding under the branch of a tree on my giant
Speaker 1: horse and getting knocked off because I thought I could
Speaker 1: bend backwards under it. That was a stupid thing because
Speaker 1: then I broke my arm. But were there any other
Speaker 1: things where? Well? Now, when she says standing on a
Speaker 1: chair and seat of the ladder, um, I would never
Speaker 1: do that because I have taught everyone. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: as as an employer of people, you have to teach
Speaker 1: good lessons. So I'm very strict about having a ladder
Speaker 1: available in most places, so that if you have to
Speaker 1: reach a high shelf, you step on a ladder. Um
Speaker 1: in the garden there, they must wear their ear muffs
Speaker 1: when they're using loud machinery. Uh, they have to have
Speaker 1: safety lessons for chain sauce because I know how I
Speaker 1: know how to use chain sauce. I mean, I really
Speaker 1: do practice good healthy living well or either that or
Speaker 1: your control free. No, no, no, I practice safety for
Speaker 1: our safety. Well no I'm not. I mean, I'm not
Speaker 1: a nut nudge about it, but I'm serious about it.
Speaker 1: But you're so um, you're so good at everything. It's
Speaker 1: and I gave a big gift to the emergency room
Speaker 1: both in Westport and in Mount Kisco, just in case,
Speaker 1: Just in case. They're They're always taken care of. But
Speaker 1: what is the biggest Have you ever screwed something up terribly?
Speaker 1: Please tell me you have? Like, what is the biggest thing?
Speaker 1: You messed my marriage by being a caterer? Really? Probably?
Speaker 1: Do you know? I think about you? I'm thinking that
Speaker 1: I was attractive enough or something like that. I I
Speaker 1: see you at some social events, are passed across on
Speaker 1: a number of occasions, and you never remarried. I have not,
Speaker 1: um are you? Are you sorry if I could have
Speaker 1: married the next guy or the next guy, but I didn't.
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not unhappy about that. I don't. And
Speaker 1: now when I see some of my friends with her husbands,
Speaker 1: I'm so happy that are they? Are they unhappy? And
Speaker 1: that makes you happy that you're not unhappy? Or do
Speaker 1: you just feel like who needs it? No? None of
Speaker 1: the above. When Mr Wright comes along, I'll marry And
Speaker 1: are you still open to datings? How do we have
Speaker 1: some librant woman? You are and you're beautiful? How does
Speaker 1: somebody do you go to match. Do you go on
Speaker 1: match dot com? Or I think you went on for
Speaker 1: today's show. Can you imagine the algorithm just doesn't fit me.
Speaker 1: It doesn't know. Maybe you could go on Farmers dot com.
Speaker 1: Maybe that might be a match made in heaven, Martha.
Speaker 1: They could help you with your garden, my farm. I don't,
Speaker 1: I don't want I want I want them. I don't
Speaker 1: want them to help me with my farm. I want
Speaker 1: not going to be hoping on Farmers dot com. It's
Speaker 1: sorry O'Brien to talk about your new cook books before
Speaker 1: we go, because it's your eighty nine. Is that Martha Cooker?
Speaker 1: We laugh because in the intro you said you'd never
Speaker 1: really used a slow cooker before, but you knew that
Speaker 1: they were really popular and they are now. Isn't this
Speaker 1: what people used to call a crock pot? Yeah, this
Speaker 1: is the evolution of a croc pot and um, and
Speaker 1: it is so the food is so delicious. And this
Speaker 1: book we we set out with no holds barred and
Speaker 1: no preconceptions because it's not just dump a bunch of
Speaker 1: meat and vegetables in a pot and add some water
Speaker 1: and turn it on like creem of mushroom soup. No, no,
Speaker 1: it isn't any of that. So you can make savory,
Speaker 1: you can make sweet, you can make cinnamon buns. You
Speaker 1: can make apple crisp. And made apple crisp from start.
Speaker 1: Some of that. Our producer Gianna is standing next to
Speaker 1: the everything. I don't think, Brian, I don't know. No,
Speaker 1: I'm not coming. It's okay. You can share it with me. Yeah, anyway,
Speaker 1: so you had did you have fun making this? This
Speaker 1: cookbook as usual? So much fun. I mean, I'm excited
Speaker 1: because I have to walk a few miles a day
Speaker 1: back and forth from the kitchens here. This is a
Speaker 1: block long and long block eleventh twelfth Avenue. But to
Speaker 1: eat all this food here, give that to Katie. It's
Speaker 1: apple cris and this is I just picked so many
Speaker 1: apples for something to do with my Brian. You take
Speaker 1: a taste, okay, okay, that is so good. And it's
Speaker 1: the apples. See fresh apples. The apples are delicious. Here,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get that to Martore. You have, Brian, and
Speaker 1: I can care you guys have some. There's a whole
Speaker 1: croc butter, cramberries in it, dried crabbers, and now, um,
Speaker 1: that's amazing. Isn't that good? So did that dryed? I
Speaker 1: take it back, it's fresh crambers. This is the best
Speaker 1: interview we've ever done. I know, I know this. And
Speaker 1: Nose made us, uh these really delicious crampled eggs that
Speaker 1: were so slowly with truffle butter and a brioche toe. Yeah.
Speaker 1: When I brought my house in Easthampton, I know what
Speaker 1: had still had the barefoot contests to shop in town
Speaker 1: and we became friends and I started her TV show.
Speaker 1: Did you know that I knew? Imagine? She said that
Speaker 1: you were. She forgot that I started her television. Actually,
Speaker 1: I think she did mention that. Martha. She said that
Speaker 1: you wrote the introduction to her first cookbook and you
Speaker 1: were enormously helpful to her. So we have a lightning round. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: but I was going to ask Martha about what iinus said,
Speaker 1: how she couldn't understand if somebody who didn't cook why
Speaker 1: they would watch her show. But Brian and I were saying,
Speaker 1: we love to watch cooking shows because even if we're
Speaker 1: not cooking, whatever is being made you learn and they're
Speaker 1: so relaxing. There's something that they're kind of hypnotic and eat. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you get hungry. These apples are They are delicious? This
Speaker 1: whole thing is super yummy. All right, well I eat Brian.
Speaker 1: Why don't you start the lightning wrap. You're making a
Speaker 1: simple dinner at home just for you. What are you cooking? Well?
Speaker 1: Because I have so many eggs, um, I will oftentimes
Speaker 1: make something out of the eggs. But I will also
Speaker 1: just bake a fresh potato that's just freshly dug. I
Speaker 1: love baked potatoes and um um, just just butter and
Speaker 1: sour cream or crime fresh so good um and lots
Speaker 1: of chopped herbs. Um. I will um cook a whole
Speaker 1: head of cauliflour or broccoli because I love that too.
Speaker 1: I'm healthy. Yeah. And what do you put on the
Speaker 1: cauliflower or broncoli? Oh? Just cooking and salted water, heavily
Speaker 1: salted water, and maybe a dab of butter. Are there
Speaker 1: any recipes you hate making? Anything? You hate cooking? I
Speaker 1: won't do it. Why? Why ball many food? You hate brains?
Speaker 1: I won't eat brains. I don't that's wait. Weight breads
Speaker 1: are intestines. They're they're finest glance or something. I don't know.
Speaker 1: They're nasty. That's all I have to say that in
Speaker 1: shad Row, which my dad used to I know, but
Speaker 1: the eggs are so big and it's in this and
Speaker 1: millions of little eggs inside the sacks. You're eating the
Speaker 1: sack of eggs. Okay, what's your biggest strength and your
Speaker 1: biggest weakness? Um? I think my biggest strength is my curiosity,
Speaker 1: and probably my biggest weakness is also my career, because
Speaker 1: you want to do too many things? Yeah? Probably. Um
Speaker 1: do you think marijuana should be legal? Um? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think so. I think so, but I worry about but
Speaker 1: it should be controlled by parents because I just think that,
Speaker 1: you know, there's too much in gender. I'm understanding that
Speaker 1: that school children are partaking too much and it's her
Speaker 1: their studies. I don't. I don't like anything that interferes
Speaker 1: with growing up in a healthy, vibrant environment. I agree,
Speaker 1: I feel like you don't. Why do you? I mean,
Speaker 1: I understand would train drugs, but you know, because what
Speaker 1: does the child need that for? I don't understand having
Speaker 1: sort of this artificial Why worry about all the prescription
Speaker 1: drugs that kids are getting in school as well? Like
Speaker 1: little in adderall and all of that. Anyway, we have
Speaker 1: a listener question that's very quick. It's the longest podcast
Speaker 1: I ever did. Messages the Martha Stewarts. What is the
Speaker 1: best way to cook pork chops? I want to know,
Speaker 1: thank you? The best way to put cook pork chops? Um? Well,
Speaker 1: I think pork chops should be. Um. You could bread
Speaker 1: them if you want, but I just I just dredge
Speaker 1: them in in a salty peppery flower and then I
Speaker 1: just cook them lightly in um, a little olive oil
Speaker 1: and a little bit of butter until they are pretty
Speaker 1: much done. And then I squeeze fresh oranges over them
Speaker 1: and let the juices sort of caramelize. They're the best.
Speaker 1: It's hard to make a juicy pork chop. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: that's that's the best way to something my mom was
Speaker 1: never able to do. I'll tell you that. Don't broil them, yeah,
Speaker 1: because they get dried out. What's your favorite thing to
Speaker 1: do with your grandkids? Oh? Explore? I mean these kids
Speaker 1: are such explorers. Sore how old now Martha five and six.
Speaker 1: But they are great travelers. And we went to the
Speaker 1: Galapagos already, we bunch of Botswana. We go to Maine.
Speaker 1: They're climbing rock walls now. Um. They the boys, a
Speaker 1: girl and a boy. Girl and a boy, and they're
Speaker 1: they're very, very fun to be with. And how's your daughter?
Speaker 1: Alexis is great, she's a very good mother. And these
Speaker 1: children are the result of close attention. Now we talked
Speaker 1: about reinventing. So as we bring this to a close,
Speaker 1: what what would you like to do mark that that
Speaker 1: you haven't done yet? Like would you like to be
Speaker 1: in Martha the musical? I mean, actually can to do that? Actually? No,
Speaker 1: actually that would be really music. Um, I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: h Yeah, I have I have some business kind of
Speaker 1: things to give us a little hint. Well, I've I've
Speaker 1: been working on an organizer for for the homemaker and
Speaker 1: I'm going to build that. Always fun to see what
Speaker 1: Martha does next. Mary, thank you that was really young.
Speaker 1: If you're going to produce for sure, Well that was
Speaker 1: very delicious. And your new cookbook is called slow Cooker
Speaker 1: and I'm excited to have one. And I guess I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have to buy a slow cooker now. Thank you, Martha,
Speaker 1: thank you Katie. Thank you brilliant, and I'm glad you
Speaker 1: came to my office. Thank you for having us, and
Speaker 1: thank you for making Apple cider and apple Chris the cappuccino.
Speaker 1: Thanks as always to our production team, the intrepid, brilliant
Speaker 1: Gianna Palmer, our producer that was Virgianna's dad who fast
Speaker 1: forwards to the credits totally. I hope that still counts
Speaker 1: as a listen. Nora Richie are wonderful production assistant, and
Speaker 1: especially Jared O'Connell, our audio engineer, who helped us take
Speaker 1: our show on the road for this episode. Thanks also
Speaker 1: to Alison Bresnik for all she does to shine a
Speaker 1: light on our podcast via her social media mastery, and
Speaker 1: to Emily Beena from Katie Currik Media for her production
Speaker 1: prowess as well. Thanks Mark Phillips for our theme music. Wow,
Speaker 1: we are laid it on thick today. Ladies, gentlemen, we
Speaker 1: heard from a lot of you who left voicemails and
Speaker 1: wrote in with your questions for Martha Stewart for this episode.
Speaker 1: It was great. We loved it, so remember you can
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