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Speaker 1: Hi Brian, Hi Katie, and hello lovely listeners. This week,

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Speaker 1: we are very excited because we're taking you all with

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Speaker 1: us to Martha Stewart headquarters. Literally, well literally we interviewed

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Speaker 1: Martha at her company headquarters, Martha Stewart Living Omni Media,

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Speaker 1: and had a really wonderful time, didn't we We did.

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Speaker 1: The offices are incredible. They take up a giant city

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Speaker 1: block in Chelsea, right on the Hudson River, and they

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Speaker 1: definitely passed the white glove test. They were beautiful and

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Speaker 1: so clean Martha, Ladies and gentlemen, no surprise here is

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Speaker 1: not particularly messy. But we also walked around the joint

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Speaker 1: afterwards and that place is stocked, isn't it. It's amazing,

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Speaker 1: from color coded design books to a five thousand dollar

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Speaker 1: cappuccino machine that she talks about to test kitchens. And

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Speaker 1: also they have tons of props for when they do shoot.

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Speaker 1: They have a million different shares and napkins and tablecloths

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Speaker 1: and even a bin that said Hanky's. There's even a

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Speaker 1: Martha Stewart cafe in the lobby. As Martha herself might say.

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Speaker 1: It's a good thing. Brian. Anyway, for nearly thirty five years,

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Speaker 1: she has dominated all things domestic. She has lent her

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Speaker 1: good taste and her name to everything from TV shows

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Speaker 1: to cookbooks, to carpet tiles, meal kits, magazines, and much

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Speaker 1: much more. She's like a cottage industry. And I think

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Speaker 1: she has actually made elegance accessible and said to the

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Speaker 1: average homemaker, male, female, whatever, somebody who wants to nest

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Speaker 1: and make their home their castle, that it's doable and

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Speaker 1: actually affordable. And Martha, after all, is the woman who

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Speaker 1: New York Magazine once called an emblematic figure of our times.

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Speaker 1: And in our conversation today, we wanted to get a

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Speaker 1: better sense of the woman behind the empire, things like

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Speaker 1: how on earth does she stay so productive? What motivates her?

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Speaker 1: I mean, she's incredible. I think she's got a new

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Speaker 1: cookbook out, the Slow Cooker Cookbook, which is her eighty

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Speaker 1: ninth book, and we should mention she's seventy six years old.

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Speaker 1: She looks amazing. But her energy, I mean she is

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Speaker 1: indefatigable and no signs at all of slowing down. Just

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Speaker 1: as ambitious as ever. That's right. In her latest foray

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Speaker 1: into the entertainment world is a show with Snoop Dogg

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Speaker 1: called pot luck dinner, which is a bit of a

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Speaker 1: double Entendre came up with that name herself. Funny funny

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Speaker 1: funny stuff is Johnny Carson might say. Anyway, here's our conversation,

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Speaker 1: and please ignore the chewing, because we did enjoy some

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Speaker 1: delicious apple Crisp. I said that like Julia Child, didn't

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Speaker 1: I like Martha delicious apple? Chris. Here's our conversation with

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Speaker 1: the one and only Martha Stewart. Brian, your dream finally

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Speaker 1: came true. We're sitting here air with the one and

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Speaker 1: only Martha Stewart, not only doing our podcast, but we're

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Speaker 1: actually in Martha's office. I wanted to be in my office.

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Speaker 1: You wanted to be in some dingy conference room someplace.

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Speaker 1: Now we actually wanted to be on your farm in Bedford,

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Speaker 1: or your estate in Maine, or your house in East Hampton.

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Speaker 1: But this is much easier. I'd rather be in any

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Speaker 1: of those places to spend the whole weekend with you.

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Speaker 1: Another dime. Let's do a block that that would be great,

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Speaker 1: a podcast in real time for a weekends. Tell us though,

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Speaker 1: about this office. It's very cool, very industrial, and very white. Yes,

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Speaker 1: well this was this is the st Lee High building,

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Speaker 1: time it was built, it was a storage warehouse building.

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Speaker 1: And when I found the space, which was almost twenty

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Speaker 1: hundred different little like switch shops. There was a letter press.

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Speaker 1: company switch shops, but they were not just one big switch.

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Speaker 1: That's right, it was. It was a dollar a square foot,

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Speaker 1: that's what people. That was the rent whole. We have

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Speaker 1: we have satellite offices to for other ones. I'm part

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Speaker 1: of Sequential Brands Group now and the Martha brand is

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Speaker 1: now licensed through Sequential, but it is but we still

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Speaker 1: do our TV shows, and we still do our various

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Speaker 1: and sundry other appearances, and make all our products for

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Speaker 1: Macy's and and Home Depot and Michael's. And actually working

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Speaker 1: harder now that I probably worked ten years ago, although

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Speaker 1: who knows. I mean, I don't keep track. Before Brian

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Speaker 1: if people here a little noise. I'm drinking a delicious

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Speaker 1: was so cool? What's it like walking into no building

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Speaker 1: currentt cafe. Well, you should have one. You should have

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Speaker 1: one on the coffee. Oh yes, you can buy the

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Speaker 1: wouldn't bet against you. But before we we delve into

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Speaker 1: your bio, which is something we do on this show.

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Speaker 1: We do, we do, we do, But before we go

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Speaker 1: all the way back. It was interesting you just mentioned

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Speaker 1: your company being sold, and I think a lot of

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Speaker 1: people remember that moment when Martha Stewart Living on the

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Speaker 1: the journey of the company since then to the point

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Speaker 1: That was the probably one of the most exciting days

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Speaker 1: exciting day going public because I had worked really hard

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Speaker 1: to build a superb company, Martha Stewart Living Omnimedia, and

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Speaker 1: it was kind of a cutting edge company, and this

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Speaker 1: the television, the printed word, the media as well as merchandising.

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Speaker 1: love the idea of being omni media. And we took

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Speaker 1: could have, should have, would have, could have. That's a

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Speaker 1: whole chapter in my autobiography, which I am penning right now.

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Speaker 1: You are making one too. We're gonna I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: my sister. But that should would could is I'm sure

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Speaker 1: it's a big chapter in your life too, And it's

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Speaker 1: one of those things that happens to everybody. I mean you.

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Speaker 1: I remember every single antique that I didn't buy it,

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Speaker 1: was married in nineteen sixty one. Can you imagine seem

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Speaker 1: And I should have bought everything. I should have been

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Speaker 1: all the time, why don't you have your own airplane? Mom?

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Speaker 1: Why don't you have your own yacht? And the river?

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Speaker 1: some of those things. But I'm not an extravagant liver.

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Speaker 1: I live simply personally, although I do have you know,

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Speaker 1: I think the thing about Martha's that, you know, I've

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Speaker 1: But you, and then when I didn't finish my day though,

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Speaker 1: then sorry, then can I just interrupt and ask a question?

427
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Speaker 1: How many people did you prepare lunch for? And did

428
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 1: you have no? No, it was just just the people

429
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 1: who were hanging, you know, working around in the place.

430
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 1: So Carlo's Jama and Frank and who else was there yesterday?

431
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 1: A dawa. Then we made fifty gallons of apple cider,

432
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 1: or would you bring some of that apple cider over here?

433
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 1: Fifty gallons of this and you know how hard it

434
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 1: is to crush the apples. It's delicious apple. Take a sip,

435
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 1: it's so good. What kind of apples did you use?

436
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 1: Who knows? On my property? We must have fifty varieties

437
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 1: of apps, so delicious I've ever had. We compare it

438
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,640
Speaker 1: to other I think it's really what makes it so good,

439
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 1: just the variety of apples, I think. Um. So we

440
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 1: did that. And while they were doing that, I shucked

441
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 1: and scraped the corn off, about maybe sixty ears of corn.

442
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 1: And I searched and I saw tade all the kernels

443
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Speaker 1: and a little bit of butter with some some water,

444
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,640
Speaker 1: and then I froze. I think I froze ten quarts

445
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 1: of corn kernels. And then I made a great pot

446
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 1: of from again, there's so many tomatoes. I made a

447
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 1: great pot of tomato soup, just tomatoes and onions. Just

448
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,439
Speaker 1: threw them all in this giant pot and cooked and

449
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 1: cooked and cooked until then put it through the food

450
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 1: so you get all the seeds and skits on. I

451
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 1: think we made eight quarts of tomato soup and relaxing Sunday.

452
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 1: So then I went, Oh, my friend called Memory. My

453
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 1: friend Memory called and said, you have to go see

454
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Speaker 1: this garden. It's on the open days and Greenwich open

455
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 1: Days is the Garden Conservancy, which is a very fantastic organization.

456
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,120
Speaker 1: I belonged to that, and people who belong open their

457
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Speaker 1: gardens to other gardeners. So I went to see Mr

458
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 1: Landman's garden and Greenwich, which is incredible, fifteen acre garden.

459
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 1: Made me sick because because if I feel jen we're

460
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 1: happy for him. When I when I get jealous, the

461
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 1: only time I ever jealous, it's not envy, it's just jealous.

462
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: I it's anyway. His garden is so beautiful. Then I

463
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 1: went to see my friend Memory, who was lying in

464
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 1: bed because she has a cut on her leg. Who knows.

465
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,360
Speaker 1: And then I left there. I got in a bad

466
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: mood because she was in bed. And then I went

467
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 1: home and I went we searched for my missing peacocks.

468
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: Were always missing two peacocks. They were out eating with

469
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 1: the it's a busy day. It is a busy day.

470
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: It sounds fun, it is fun. The peacocks were hanging

471
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,199
Speaker 1: out with the wild turkeys. Now there's a gang of

472
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: five wild male turkeys and my two male peacocks that

473
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 1: I allow out of their enclosure. Uh, they have kind

474
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: of befriended the wild turkeys. And is there any nookie

475
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: going on? Peacocks a band of boys and uh, so

476
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,479
Speaker 1: we could tell her forever. I mean, you don't know,

477
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 1: these are so silly. I hope this is not boring

478
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 1: to you. Love you love. I went to get a massage.

479
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 1: I went to a Chinese reflexology and did something where.

480
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,199
Speaker 1: Then I went home and I did a little bit

481
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 1: more cooking. But I had a column do this morning,

482
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 1: so I had to work on my column on the

483
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 1: restoration of furniture. So I had to write that, and

484
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 1: then I went and watched the Emmys. Thank god the

485
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: Emmys were on, because I had such a good time

486
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: watching the Emmy's and that relaxed me. And that's that

487
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,439
Speaker 1: was my day. See, that's the Sunday. So speaking of

488
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: Donald Trump, right, because that was the topic when he

489
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 1: absolutely should have won. And by the way, didn't Alec

490
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: look good. Lass he looks so good. I thought he

491
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 1: looks so it's a couple of and he looked great. Yeah. Yeah,

492
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 1: you were there and that was a fun night and

493
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 1: opening night of the the US Open. But can I

494
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: ask you about him seriously because after um, well there's

495
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 1: another topic. But after your release from prison, you did

496
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: Martha Stewart the Apprentice or the apprent to Martha Stewart

497
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: and this office. It was right here in this office.

498
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: We built their bedrooms, here, their kitchens. The whole thing

499
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: was the most monstrous production you have ever seen. And

500
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: Donald Trump was the executive producer of it. Well, yes,

501
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: one with Mark Burnett. And Mark Burnett promised me when

502
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: I agreed to do it, that I would fire Donald

503
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: at the end of my show, that Donald, we're going

504
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 1: to replace him. Yes, and Donald did not want to

505
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 1: be replaced. By the time of Blind President, I know,

506
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: he maligned my show so badly. He was nasty. Well, no,

507
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: who knows why he wanted. He wanted to stay on TV.

508
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: He had he had, you know, he drank the kool

509
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: aid and he loved it so much. I show did

510
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: really well in Europe, and it did really well in Japan.

511
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: But um, but the ratings in America were not as

512
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: good as Donald's ratings. But I was as outrageous as

513
00:29:55,840 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 1: Donald either. I think people like outrage and as know,

514
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 1: after this whole year, Um and so so. But he

515
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: but we remained, uh some semi cordial. And what did

516
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: you learn about him from working with him? Well, he

517
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: had very little to do with my show. What did

518
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: you learn about him from what he said about you around?

519
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: I was not happy and my daughter. He said nasty

520
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: things about my daughter and she was on the radio

521
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 1: at the time he was, and she was on the

522
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: Apprentice for a little bit and I did not like that,

523
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 1: and none of us did, and it was not nice.

524
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: I would never say anything untoward of his about his children.

525
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 1: You don't talk about people's children, but he does. How

526
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: do you think he's doing as president? Do we have

527
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: to really get there? I was not. I was not.

528
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 1: I'm not happy at the state of things at all.

529
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: You were a big Hillary Clinton supporter. Did you have

530
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: you read her new book yet? No? I haven't. I've

531
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: I've listened to many of the interviews and have you

532
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 1: have you interviewed here? We had an interviewed or where

533
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: hoping to get her on our podcast. You know, she

534
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: had known her. I did her first interview when she

535
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: became First Lady in the early I remember, I remember,

536
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: and I saw her in the attempt. And she was

537
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: walking on Louie Pond Lane the other day, really, and

538
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 1: I was walking my dogs and she I bumped into

539
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: I saw the black van's first and I thought, oh God,

540
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: who's coming? And it was Hillary. She know, she was

541
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: with a friend, Liz Robbins, and we talked for quite

542
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: a while standing there in the middle of the street.

543
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 1: And uh, and she looked well and she told me

544
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: her book was just about to be released. It was right,

545
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: I guess it was a week before her book came out.

546
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: And um, so I haven't read it yet, but but

547
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: she has to speak out, she has to say what

548
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: she said. And uh, and you know, it's a it's

549
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: too bad. She's really damned if she does. Damned if

550
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: she does. And I mean I've been, I've been, I guess,

551
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: not surprised, but it's still I'm always taken aback at

552
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 1: the vitriol and hatred that is directed at her. And

553
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: you know, well, today I saw Bernie Sanders on Morning

554
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: Joe now he I don't know if he was on

555
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: there or they were just they were just showing film

556
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: with Bernie. Nobody has pointed out Bernie saying, oh, I

557
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: did so much to support Hillary this. Why isn't anybody

558
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: pointing out that Bernie Sanders lost the election. Well, a

559
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: lot of his supporters are kind of of the view

560
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: that she stole it with the super delegates, and nothing

561
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 1: could be more wrong. She actually beat him fifty in

562
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: terms of the popular vote in the primaries, but that's

563
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 1: not the that's not the approach. Like he he really

564
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: disturbed the election by being the third kendidate, Bernie Sanders,

565
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: and I never felt as if he really supported her

566
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: fully And all those shots of her, of Bernie at

567
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: the convention, he looked like he'd been sucking on a limit, right,

568
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: I mean, he did not look particularly pleased or supportive.

569
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I wouldn't want my supporters that she is.

570
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: If she had put him on the ballot as the

571
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: vice president, that would have helped a lot. So you've

572
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: been on the receiving end of some sexist treatment and behavior.

573
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: How big of a role do you think sexist and

574
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: played in the election last year? A lot a lot. Obviously,

575
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 1: I think people still are not comfortable. Not all, not

576
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: all people, but many people are still uncomfortable with the

577
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: notion of a woman in power very much. So. I'm

578
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: sure you've dealt with that, oh, of course, But but

579
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: I'm strong enough to sort of brush it off. And

580
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: when you're running for president's pretty hard just to brush

581
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 1: it off. Although I probably would have behaved a lot

582
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 1: differently than Hillary did on those debate stages, what would

583
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 1: you have done? I told him to get lost. I mean,

584
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: she she was calling her names, and she wasn't calling

585
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: him names. Call him some names. Really, I don't know.

586
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: Do you catch her decor? Room did not, She didn't.

587
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 1: I don't think people have to be so decorous to

588
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 1: ugly people. What's the what's the old line about you

589
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 1: get into a mud pit with a pig and the

590
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: pig is gonna win. Let me ask you. The one thing,

591
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: uh many questions we had, Martha, is and I don't

592
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: think you've talked about it that much, is you know,

593
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: I look at you and everything you've accomplished, and then

594
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: you had this moment in your life when you were

595
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: in prison, and I imagine in my mind's eye that

596
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 1: was sal I went to Yale for five months. I

597
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: read a lot, I learned a lot. And what was

598
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: that like for you mean, was that sort of like?

599
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: It was horrifying. It was horrifying. And no one, no

600
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: one should have to go through that kind of indignity,

601
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 1: really except for murderers, and and you know there are

602
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: a few other categories, but no one should have to

603
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: go through that. It's a very very awful thing. Having

604
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: said that, I mean, was it a growth experience in

605
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 1: any way? I know that you would read out to

606
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: a lot of the other women, and you can make

607
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: lemons out of lemonade, and what what? What hurts you

608
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: makes you stronger? No, none of those adages fit at all.

609
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 1: It's a horrible experience. Nothing is good about it. Nothing

610
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 1: was What was so horrible about it? Oh, being taken

611
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:28,399
Speaker 1: away from your family, being maligned, being treated the way

612
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: you were treated, it's horrible, um, and especially when one

613
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: does not feel one deserves such a thing. I mean,

614
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: I was not a bad person. Well, I think a

615
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: lot of people are under the misconception that you were

616
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 1: convicted of insider trading. You were You were not. I

617
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: wasn't even accused of insider trading. But I don't want

618
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 1: to get into that either. I mean, it's just like

619
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: like and one thing I do not ever want is

620
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: to be identified or I don't want that to be

621
00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 1: the major thing of my life. It's just not it's

622
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: just not fair. But um, but it's not a good

623
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: experience and it doesn't make you stronger. I was a

624
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: strong person to start with, and thank Heavens, I was,

625
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: and I can still hold my head up high and

626
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: know that I'm fine. Did you get to know any

627
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 1: of your fellow inmates and what was that like? I

628
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: know you helped them with certain things and become friendly

629
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: with them. Um, No, I'm not really friendly. I wouldn't

630
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 1: say that. As much as I tried. I've tried to

631
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 1: help certain of them. Um, there are lots and lots

632
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 1: of odd stories and disturbing things that go on in

633
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 1: a in a incarceration like that, even a minimum security, well,

634
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 1: you couldn't walk in minimum security. Still couldn't walk out

635
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: the gate, you know, across the river. Um it was. Um,

636
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: there's still guards and they're still it's still nasty and

637
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 1: it's still but but that's that's America has so many

638
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: people in prison. You go to Finland and there's about

639
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 1: I think there's like a hundred people in prison in

640
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: Finland or some tiny number. Uh. They don't believe in

641
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: in that kind of incarceration. Uh, And I don't think

642
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 1: we should have the numbers of people in prison. And

643
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: the most of the women that were in this in

644
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: this institution were there because of the New York state

645
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: drug laws. And now we have legalized marijuana in seven states.

646
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: I think it is Uh, that's incredible. And those and

647
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: people who had a few ounces of marijuana on them

648
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,240
Speaker 1: and are in there for twenty years, it just doesn't

649
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: make sense to some of those people get to be

650
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 1: released as as a result. I know that there was

651
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 1: a big movement with President Obama to change sort of

652
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:52,760
Speaker 1: minimum mandatory. Much was done, not not enough was done.

653
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 1: So on a happier note, you've had this friendship with

654
00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: Snoop Dogg. But I think as uh surprised and delighted

655
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: some of your some of your fans more just surprised

656
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,439
Speaker 1: others of your people. People seem to really like our

657
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: public dinner party. Yeah no, there of course there's a

658
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 1: double one ding Sarcastic. That was my name. I came

659
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 1: up with that name. He did just very get to

660
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,879
Speaker 1: know each other. The green we had the green meal,

661
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 1: we had all kinds of stuff, funny names. Well, he

662
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 1: was on My show a couple of times, and he

663
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 1: was always just a pleasant guest and fun and made

664
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: people and and the response was always good. Did you

665
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 1: get a contact high from the green room after he

666
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 1: came not in New York? He didn't. He didn't partaken,

667
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: and he was on my my show once and honestly,

668
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: I opened the door and it was like one of

669
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 1: those cartoons where this smoke just billowed down. I think,

670
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 1: I think, I don't. I think that's probably why he

671
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 1: doesn't come to New York very much, because he's not

672
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: free to just that's true. This was in California, yea,

673
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: oh no, California, and then um, and then you go

674
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: to then Um we did the Justin Bieber Roast together

675
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: and that was that which is hilarious for anybody. It was.

676
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: It was hilarious. And there I did get a contact

677
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 1: high sitting next to him for four hours on the stage.

678
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 1: Oh you couldn't help it. I mean he had these

679
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: you know, he was smoking for four hours right next

680
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: to us. Oh yeah, soun doing the show with him. Yeah,

681
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 1: it really is fun and it's um. I call it

682
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 1: a melding of cultures. I mean, here's Compton and Nutley

683
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:38,919
Speaker 1: probably not so probably not so different. Way down under.

684
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,320
Speaker 1: I met his mother. He brought his mother to the show.

685
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: She's a lovely lady, very intelligent, very well spoken. He

686
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: had other family members there. I mean, it's it's kind

687
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 1: of an interesting situation. And then we have these great

688
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: guests and we cook, and he's a fun cook. He

689
00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 1: and he is his uncle Rio, who is this jovial um,

690
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:06,760
Speaker 1: very fancily dressed on gentlemen, who wears very jazzy clothes,

691
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: you know, spats and gold suits and whatever and hats

692
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 1: and anyway, Uncle Rio kind of creates all the recipes

693
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: for Snoop and my my straight laced team of Thomas,

694
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,280
Speaker 1: Joseph and uh and the rest of the kitchen here

695
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:27,959
Speaker 1: they're they're all like but it's fun. I mean, it's fun.

696
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,760
Speaker 1: I think, what's so great about you? You you're always

697
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 1: reinventing yourself. You're always Change is good. That's one of

698
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,760
Speaker 1: my mottos. Change is good. And when you're through changing,

699
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: you're through in my book, So and you've done that

700
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: you've changed, You've changed so nicely and evolved, and I've tried,

701
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 1: but you do you do, You're you're You're prettier now

702
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,399
Speaker 1: than you were when I first met you, by the way,

703
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 1: And uh, I think it's because I had such a

704
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: fat pace when I was younger, and aging makes you

705
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 1: kind of hollow at a little bit. But had had

706
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: enough excess that I don't look on you not now

707
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: look normal, right, you look great, And so I think

708
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: all of that is uh, is good and um, and

709
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: it's been it's been interesting to also challenge myself. I mean,

710
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: it's hard to go on the stage with Jamie Foxx

711
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: and um Puff Daddy or PGTT or whatever his name

712
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: is now and uh us sure and all those guys

713
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: and and uh a little YACHTI And it's extraordinary the

714
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,240
Speaker 1: talent that comes on our show. Really amazing challenge. Yeah,

715
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:38,280
Speaker 1: that's fun. And meanwhile, UM, as a business person, I'm curious,

716
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 1: as a hugely successful woman in business, what do you

717
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 1: think are the most important lessons you've learned along the way,

718
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 1: Because I don't know, I'm at the point in my

719
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 1: career that I want to mentor more young women, and

720
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 1: so what would you tell them, well, it's UM. It's

721
00:41:54,320 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 1: all about having ideas, having energy to grow those ideas

722
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 1: into something UM, and having the wherewithal, whether it be

723
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: personal or borrowed or education, to build something of lasting value.

724
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: And I think just my library of books is of

725
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 1: lasting value. Many of the other things that I've done also,

726
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 1: I think will have a lasting value. Building a brand

727
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 1: is interesting, but it's unless it's a really good brand

728
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 1: and has a wide audience. Uh. What the heck, I'm

729
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 1: not a Bill Gates. I didn't I didn't invent software.

730
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: I wish I had. But in the meantime, I utilize

731
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: what's available and and learning how to use what's new

732
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: and different has made a big difference in my business.

733
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: And I think learning you know, when I started my business,

734
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: the internet was a baby uh and but I had

735
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: a computer. I learned how to use that computer. I

736
00:42:56,120 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 1: learned how to to to write and and uh and

737
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 1: use the internet to do research to do all of

738
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,879
Speaker 1: the things. Now, social media is another challenge for all

739
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: of us. How do we how do we maneuver and

740
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 1: uh and uh and negotiate social media to make a

741
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 1: difference without wasting a tremendous amount of time doing so,

742
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: so a lot of plays open to open to new

743
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 1: ideas and to and to I was I'm one of

744
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: the early adopters of the computer. Believe it or not.

745
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: I mean, isn't that crazy? But I am. And two,

746
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 1: I got my first computer. When did you get your computer?

747
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,800
Speaker 1: Were you born yet? I was when I was just born.

748
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: When did I got my first computer? I think it

749
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: was in the late eighties at some point. I got

750
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: my adrink in the early nineties. Well when I oh, no, yeah,

751
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 1: I think in the early or even late eighties, when

752
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 1: broadcasting wasn't using computers in We were the first magazine

753
00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: to design on an Apple and that's why I wanted you.

754
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure that we were doing it

755
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:05,760
Speaker 1: in the new and different way. It was no cutting

756
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: and pasting on the big tables, so it's a it's

757
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 1: that So making use of what's available currently available was

758
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 1: very important to me. My dad used to say that

759
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: you really had to stay on top of this ever

760
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: changing world. And I think now more than ever it's

761
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 1: a good thing. As you would say, Martha, By the way,

762
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 1: do you remember when I gave you the Matrix Award?

763
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 1: So I you know, I worked so hard on this poem,

764
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 1: and I have to just repeat the first couple of

765
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 1: verses and in communications, and Martha was, of course so deserving.

766
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 1: I remembered. I was terrified because the dais was full

767
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 1: of very impressive women that year. Of course you and

768
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: then Whoopi Goldberg, and I think Amy tan and and

769
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: Richards and all these people. But I was what went

770
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 1: before me, and I was like, oh, I'm I'm screwed

771
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 1: because she's so funny and relaxed, and I was a

772
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 1: nervous wreck. But I had worked really hard on a

773
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 1: poem for Martha, and it went like this, Martha, Dear Martha,

774
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 1: what should I do? These people have asked me to

775
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,760
Speaker 1: introduce you. I haven't eaten, I haven't slept. Talk about

776
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 1: making a girl fill in at anything I can do,

777
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: you can do better dipping a candle, knitting a sweater.

778
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 1: A room needs repainting, you'll make it, saying with Robin's

779
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 1: a blue because it's a good thing. And only a

780
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 1: woman who's in your position makes a gingerbread house. This

781
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: air condition tartar ta marsi, pacco vent to, bruschetta panchetta

782
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 1: is not all you can do your holiday meals are

783
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 1: a feast for the eyes. Why can't you use stovetop?

784
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 1: And Mrs smiss pies anyway, went on and on anyway,

785
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 1: why heart, Well, you know what I think what. I

786
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 1: worked so hard on this and it was so much

787
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 1: fun to do and I was so honored to be

788
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: asked to present it to you. Um. So that's one

789
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: of my my favorite poems because my dad said I write.

790
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: My dad used to say I write dogg rol, not poetry. Um.

791
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: By the way, before we go, we have a listener

792
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: voicemail question. We have a listener who called in with

793
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:08,760
Speaker 1: a question for Martha. Okay, I am calling from St. Pete, Florida,

794
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: where I'm reading Martha Stewart Living by the Light of

795
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:15,760
Speaker 1: a lantern because I'm still without power. But I've always

796
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 1: been curious about whether or not Martha Stewart has ever

797
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: done something she shouldn't have done, like stood up on

798
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: a chair instead of a ladder, or didn't we have

799
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: the safety glasses she was supposed to do. She's trying

800
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: to have all how to do things right, but I'm

801
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: just wondering about where she's made some goose that taught

802
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: her a lesson. Well, Oh, my gosh, that's a good one.

803
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: That's your biggest screw up. My biggest grew up was

804
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 1: riding under the branch of a tree on my giant

805
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: horse and getting knocked off because I thought I could

806
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:53,919
Speaker 1: bend backwards under it. That was a stupid thing because

807
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: then I broke my arm. But were there any other

808
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 1: things where? Well? Now, when she says standing on a

809
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 1: chair and seat of the ladder, um, I would never

810
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 1: do that because I have taught everyone. I mean, you know,

811
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,800
Speaker 1: as as an employer of people, you have to teach

812
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 1: good lessons. So I'm very strict about having a ladder

813
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: available in most places, so that if you have to

814
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: reach a high shelf, you step on a ladder. Um

815
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: in the garden there, they must wear their ear muffs

816
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 1: when they're using loud machinery. Uh, they have to have

817
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: safety lessons for chain sauce because I know how I

818
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 1: know how to use chain sauce. I mean, I really

819
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 1: do practice good healthy living well or either that or

820
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: your control free. No, no, no, I practice safety for

821
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 1: our safety. Well no I'm not. I mean, I'm not

822
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 1: a nut nudge about it, but I'm serious about it.

823
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 1: But you're so um, you're so good at everything. It's

824
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 1: and I gave a big gift to the emergency room

825
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:01,839
Speaker 1: both in Westport and in Mount Kisco, just in case,

826
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 1: Just in case. They're They're always taken care of. But

827
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: what is the biggest Have you ever screwed something up terribly?

828
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 1: Please tell me you have? Like, what is the biggest thing?

829
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 1: You messed my marriage by being a caterer? Really? Probably?

830
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 1: Do you know? I think about you? I'm thinking that

831
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: I was attractive enough or something like that. I I

832
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: see you at some social events, are passed across on

833
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 1: a number of occasions, and you never remarried. I have not,

834
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: um are you? Are you sorry if I could have

835
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: married the next guy or the next guy, but I didn't.

836
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not unhappy about that. I don't. And

837
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: now when I see some of my friends with her husbands,

838
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: I'm so happy that are they? Are they unhappy? And

839
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 1: that makes you happy that you're not unhappy? Or do

840
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 1: you just feel like who needs it? No? None of

841
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,800
Speaker 1: the above. When Mr Wright comes along, I'll marry And

842
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 1: are you still open to datings? How do we have

843
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 1: some librant woman? You are and you're beautiful? How does

844
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: somebody do you go to match. Do you go on

845
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 1: match dot com? Or I think you went on for

846
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:15,359
Speaker 1: today's show. Can you imagine the algorithm just doesn't fit me.

847
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Speaker 1: It doesn't know. Maybe you could go on Farmers dot com.

848
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Speaker 1: Maybe that might be a match made in heaven, Martha.

849
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,959
Speaker 1: They could help you with your garden, my farm. I don't,

850
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Speaker 1: I don't want I want I want them. I don't

851
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 1: want them to help me with my farm. I want

852
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 1: not going to be hoping on Farmers dot com. It's

853
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Speaker 1: sorry O'Brien to talk about your new cook books before

854
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Speaker 1: we go, because it's your eighty nine. Is that Martha Cooker?

855
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 1: We laugh because in the intro you said you'd never

856
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 1: really used a slow cooker before, but you knew that

857
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 1: they were really popular and they are now. Isn't this

858
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 1: what people used to call a crock pot? Yeah, this

859
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: is the evolution of a croc pot and um, and

860
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 1: it is so the food is so delicious. And this

861
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 1: book we we set out with no holds barred and

862
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 1: no preconceptions because it's not just dump a bunch of

863
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: meat and vegetables in a pot and add some water

864
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: and turn it on like creem of mushroom soup. No, no,

865
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Speaker 1: it isn't any of that. So you can make savory,

866
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 1: you can make sweet, you can make cinnamon buns. You

867
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: can make apple crisp. And made apple crisp from start.

868
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Speaker 1: Some of that. Our producer Gianna is standing next to

869
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Speaker 1: the everything. I don't think, Brian, I don't know. No,

870
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 1: I'm not coming. It's okay. You can share it with me. Yeah, anyway,

871
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 1: so you had did you have fun making this? This

872
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 1: cookbook as usual? So much fun. I mean, I'm excited

873
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 1: because I have to walk a few miles a day

874
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Speaker 1: back and forth from the kitchens here. This is a

875
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Speaker 1: block long and long block eleventh twelfth Avenue. But to

876
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Speaker 1: eat all this food here, give that to Katie. It's

877
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 1: apple cris and this is I just picked so many

878
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:09,839
Speaker 1: apples for something to do with my Brian. You take

879
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: a taste, okay, okay, that is so good. And it's

880
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 1: the apples. See fresh apples. The apples are delicious. Here,

881
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get that to Martore. You have, Brian, and

882
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 1: I can care you guys have some. There's a whole

883
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 1: croc butter, cramberries in it, dried crabbers, and now, um,

884
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 1: that's amazing. Isn't that good? So did that dryed? I

885
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 1: take it back, it's fresh crambers. This is the best

886
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 1: interview we've ever done. I know, I know this. And

887
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: Nose made us, uh these really delicious crampled eggs that

888
00:51:54,560 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 1: were so slowly with truffle butter and a brioche toe. Yeah.

889
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: When I brought my house in Easthampton, I know what

890
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:10,800
Speaker 1: had still had the barefoot contests to shop in town

891
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,959
Speaker 1: and we became friends and I started her TV show.

892
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 1: Did you know that I knew? Imagine? She said that

893
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 1: you were. She forgot that I started her television. Actually,

894
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 1: I think she did mention that. Martha. She said that

895
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 1: you wrote the introduction to her first cookbook and you

896
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 1: were enormously helpful to her. So we have a lightning round. Okay, yeah,

897
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 1: but I was going to ask Martha about what iinus said,

898
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:41,919
Speaker 1: how she couldn't understand if somebody who didn't cook why

899
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:45,320
Speaker 1: they would watch her show. But Brian and I were saying,

900
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 1: we love to watch cooking shows because even if we're

901
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 1: not cooking, whatever is being made you learn and they're

902
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:58,359
Speaker 1: so relaxing. There's something that they're kind of hypnotic and eat. Yeah,

903
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 1: you get hungry. These apples are They are delicious? This

904
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 1: whole thing is super yummy. All right, well I eat Brian.

905
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 1: Why don't you start the lightning wrap. You're making a

906
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 1: simple dinner at home just for you. What are you cooking? Well?

907
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 1: Because I have so many eggs, um, I will oftentimes

908
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 1: make something out of the eggs. But I will also

909
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 1: just bake a fresh potato that's just freshly dug. I

910
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 1: love baked potatoes and um um, just just butter and

911
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 1: sour cream or crime fresh so good um and lots

912
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 1: of chopped herbs. Um. I will um cook a whole

913
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 1: head of cauliflour or broccoli because I love that too.

914
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:45,800
Speaker 1: I'm healthy. Yeah. And what do you put on the

915
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 1: cauliflower or broncoli? Oh? Just cooking and salted water, heavily

916
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 1: salted water, and maybe a dab of butter. Are there

917
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 1: any recipes you hate making? Anything? You hate cooking? I

918
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 1: won't do it. Why? Why ball many food? You hate brains?

919
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:06,280
Speaker 1: I won't eat brains. I don't that's wait. Weight breads

920
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 1: are intestines. They're they're finest glance or something. I don't know.

921
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: They're nasty. That's all I have to say that in

922
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 1: shad Row, which my dad used to I know, but

923
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 1: the eggs are so big and it's in this and

924
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 1: millions of little eggs inside the sacks. You're eating the

925
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 1: sack of eggs. Okay, what's your biggest strength and your

926
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 1: biggest weakness? Um? I think my biggest strength is my curiosity,

927
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 1: and probably my biggest weakness is also my career, because

928
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 1: you want to do too many things? Yeah? Probably. Um

929
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 1: do you think marijuana should be legal? Um? Yeah, I

930
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 1: think so. I think so, but I worry about but

931
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 1: it should be controlled by parents because I just think that,

932
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 1: you know, there's too much in gender. I'm understanding that

933
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 1: that school children are partaking too much and it's her

934
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 1: their studies. I don't. I don't like anything that interferes

935
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 1: with growing up in a healthy, vibrant environment. I agree,

936
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:10,439
Speaker 1: I feel like you don't. Why do you? I mean,

937
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 1: I understand would train drugs, but you know, because what

938
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,919
Speaker 1: does the child need that for? I don't understand having

939
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: sort of this artificial Why worry about all the prescription

940
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 1: drugs that kids are getting in school as well? Like

941
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 1: little in adderall and all of that. Anyway, we have

942
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:28,280
Speaker 1: a listener question that's very quick. It's the longest podcast

943
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 1: I ever did. Messages the Martha Stewarts. What is the

944
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:35,799
Speaker 1: best way to cook pork chops? I want to know,

945
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 1: thank you? The best way to put cook pork chops? Um? Well,

946
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 1: I think pork chops should be. Um. You could bread

947
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:50,320
Speaker 1: them if you want, but I just I just dredge

948
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 1: them in in a salty peppery flower and then I

949
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 1: just cook them lightly in um, a little olive oil

950
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 1: and a little bit of butter until they are pretty

951
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 1: much done. And then I squeeze fresh oranges over them

952
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 1: and let the juices sort of caramelize. They're the best.

953
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 1: It's hard to make a juicy pork chop. Yeah, but

954
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 1: that's that's the best way to something my mom was

955
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:20,240
Speaker 1: never able to do. I'll tell you that. Don't broil them, yeah,

956
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 1: because they get dried out. What's your favorite thing to

957
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:26,800
Speaker 1: do with your grandkids? Oh? Explore? I mean these kids

958
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 1: are such explorers. Sore how old now Martha five and six.

959
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 1: But they are great travelers. And we went to the

960
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 1: Galapagos already, we bunch of Botswana. We go to Maine.

961
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 1: They're climbing rock walls now. Um. They the boys, a

962
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:43,479
Speaker 1: girl and a boy. Girl and a boy, and they're

963
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 1: they're very, very fun to be with. And how's your daughter?

964
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 1: Alexis is great, she's a very good mother. And these

965
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 1: children are the result of close attention. Now we talked

966
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 1: about reinventing. So as we bring this to a close,

967
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 1: what what would you like to do mark that that

968
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 1: you haven't done yet? Like would you like to be

969
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 1: in Martha the musical? I mean, actually can to do that? Actually? No,

970
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 1: actually that would be really music. Um, I'm gonna be

971
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 1: h Yeah, I have I have some business kind of

972
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 1: things to give us a little hint. Well, I've I've

973
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 1: been working on an organizer for for the homemaker and

974
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 1: I'm going to build that. Always fun to see what

975
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 1: Martha does next. Mary, thank you that was really young.

976
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 1: If you're going to produce for sure, Well that was

977
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 1: very delicious. And your new cookbook is called slow Cooker

978
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 1: and I'm excited to have one. And I guess I'm

979
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 1: gonna have to buy a slow cooker now. Thank you, Martha,

980
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 1: thank you Katie. Thank you brilliant, and I'm glad you

981
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 1: came to my office. Thank you for having us, and

982
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 1: thank you for making Apple cider and apple Chris the cappuccino.

983
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 1: Thanks as always to our production team, the intrepid, brilliant

984
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 1: Gianna Palmer, our producer that was Virgianna's dad who fast

985
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 1: forwards to the credits totally. I hope that still counts

986
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 1: as a listen. Nora Richie are wonderful production assistant, and

987
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 1: especially Jared O'Connell, our audio engineer, who helped us take

988
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 1: our show on the road for this episode. Thanks also

989
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 1: to Alison Bresnik for all she does to shine a

990
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 1: light on our podcast via her social media mastery, and

991
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 1: to Emily Beena from Katie Currik Media for her production

992
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 1: prowess as well. Thanks Mark Phillips for our theme music. Wow,

993
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 1: we are laid it on thick today. Ladies, gentlemen, we

994
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Speaker 1: heard from a lot of you who left voicemails and

995
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 1: wrote in with your questions for Martha Stewart for this episode.

996
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 1: It was great. We loved it, so remember you can

997
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 1: email us your questions for Marie Condo too. You may

998
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 1: have heard of her best selling book, The Life Changing

999
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 1: Magic of Tidying Up, and if you're a slob like me,

1000
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 1: you're going to have a lot of questions or if

1001
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 1: you just want to say hi, or that you're enjoying

1002
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 1: our podcast, be starting a little pathetic you you want

1003
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 1: to know, you know, like what Brian's hobbies are when

1004
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 1: he's not reading eight thousand newspapers and newsletters. You can

1005
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 1: do so at comments at currect podcast dot com or

1006
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 1: leave us a voicemail at nine to four or six

1007
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 1: three seven. The lines are open seven. And yes, I

1008
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:25,439
Speaker 1: do think we sound a little pathetic, like we don't

1009
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 1: have any don't we don't have any friends. If you

1010
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 1: want to further cyber stock us, I'm Katie Curic on Twitter,

1011
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 1: um and actually read my comments and UM, if you're

1012
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 1: a jerk, I block you, so please don't be a jerk. Also,

1013
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:41,959
Speaker 1: I'm on Instagram and Katie dot curric on Snapchat. Find

1014
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 1: me on Facebook as well, and Brian is at goldsmith

1015
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 1: b on Twitter. And last but not least, if you

1016
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 1: like the show, please please subscribe. I figured we're pathetic already,

1017
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 1: so might as well just lean into it. Subscribe, rate

1018
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 1: and review the show over at Apple podcast and helps

1019
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:02,919
Speaker 1: us out. Someone stop us. Talk to you next time,

1020
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 1: and we promised to be less beggy and whiny and pathetic.

1021
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 1: Have a good day, yeah,