Speaker 1: Why isn't Bill ni addressing this in any of his
Speaker 1: television programs? Do you know, You're like, why why are
Speaker 1: you sitting here? You're still teaching me how to make
Speaker 1: fucking volcanoes out of bacon, soda and vinegar that I'm
Speaker 1: trying to see how much come it takes for a
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Speaker 1: There it is, there, it is. Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome
Speaker 1: to another phenomenal episode of My Amma Told Me, the
Speaker 1: podcast where we dive deep, keep into the pockets of
Speaker 1: black conspiracy theories, and we finally work to prove that
Speaker 1: Peebo Bryson is a terrible name, poor a person, but
Speaker 1: a wonderful name for a very obedient police dog. It
Speaker 1: is the type of name that you want to hear
Speaker 1: an officer yell out right before he bites a black
Speaker 1: person in the leg. That is That's the theory I'm
Speaker 1: spreading poor Peobo. But you know he had some classic hips.
Speaker 1: He he did all right for himself. People was doing
Speaker 1: fun with that goddamn dog name. I'm your host, Slankston
Speaker 1: Kerman as always, I'm I'm coming in hot, baby. This
Speaker 1: is how I do. Don't pretend like you don't know
Speaker 1: how I behave. I'm doing me, baby. I'm excited. I'm
Speaker 1: fucking excited today because my guest. My guest is a
Speaker 1: dear friend, a person I've known for many years, all
Speaker 1: the way back to when I was living in Boston.
Speaker 1: I lived in Boston for for some time, and he
Speaker 1: was he was sort of a king of Boston, if
Speaker 1: you will. He was a man. He's from Boston, but man,
Speaker 1: he was a man who knew Boston. He walked the
Speaker 1: streets and he pointed people, and people be like, hey,
Speaker 1: oh ship you here. That's tight. Oh man, oh oh.
Speaker 1: They make noises like that, just in in enthusiasm at
Speaker 1: his presence. He's so funny. You know him from his
Speaker 1: appearances on Jesus and Merrill, on on Pause with Sam j.
Speaker 1: He is also on the fucking this is what's so
Speaker 1: amazing about this gentleman. He's on the goddamn Advisory Board
Speaker 1: of Urban Agriculture in New York City. That's insane. And
Speaker 1: he is the director of a few community gardens in
Speaker 1: Brooklyn and otherwise a dear friend, so funny. Give it
Speaker 1: up for my friend Mr Kofy Thomas Wild Or's some Homi,
Speaker 1: what's something man good good saying hey you helly. I
Speaker 1: was hoping you're gonna keep the accident going now and
Speaker 1: then they just didn't know that you don't talk like
Speaker 1: that for the entire episode. No, no, no, we speaking
Speaker 1: young k talk already lost, So I already lost some
Speaker 1: of y'all. Keep up, Yeah, Nick, keep keep up, and
Speaker 1: I'll go back to my to my my hood binocular.
Speaker 1: What's up everybody out there. Yeah, I'm very excited you're here.
Speaker 1: And I'm even more excited because you came with a
Speaker 1: conspiracy theory that is it's both lofty in nature but
Speaker 1: also very I think it. It covers a lot of
Speaker 1: territory in terms of hip hop rumors and and sort
Speaker 1: of legend. And I've actually added or reshaped the title
Speaker 1: a bit to make it so that it's all encompassing
Speaker 1: for some of the things that we're going to talk about.
Speaker 1: But you said, my mama told me the legend of
Speaker 1: Leo Kim, tell me all of the legend that you know.
Speaker 1: So this is and let me let me and let
Speaker 1: me playing the picture. Okay, is that whispers in the dark,
Speaker 1: little Jim. This is a time when when people had
Speaker 1: on a freshman prayer of luxe boots. When when when
Speaker 1: you got excited to see the jet beauty of the week.
Speaker 1: All right, so this is so, this is a time,
Speaker 1: this is a climate of us. All right, you you
Speaker 1: heard something you weren't thinking. Let me go try and
Speaker 1: check a smartphone. It wasn't that it was it was
Speaker 1: it was excitement, and it was who else can I
Speaker 1: tell about this? You know? Because then you felt like
Speaker 1: you had an insight to the streets if you could
Speaker 1: then tell somebody who didn't know what was going on there.
Speaker 1: There was a to what you're describing. There was a
Speaker 1: point in our society before the Internet really or social
Speaker 1: media really had taken over, where you could legitimately be
Speaker 1: in charge of what another person knew. And it was
Speaker 1: a real power that that no longer exists because we
Speaker 1: all have a Twitter feed that can easily break our
Speaker 1: brains quicker and more effectively. Yeah, yeah, it's not. It's
Speaker 1: not nearly as fun when you can just debunk something
Speaker 1: so quickly, and it's and it really was magical to have,
Speaker 1: like any young middle school kid with the power to
Speaker 1: like shift the conversation of the entire school for a
Speaker 1: day to come in hot with the rumor that like
Speaker 1: his cousin told him. And then by like third period,
Speaker 1: everybody was like murmuring and whispering like what what Derek
Speaker 1: it told him. Yeah, So that was And then it
Speaker 1: was so cool about the source was like if you said,
Speaker 1: you know, like my boy um the one and his
Speaker 1: cousin was in the game, so you know, it's come
Speaker 1: back with good stories. So whatever he'd come back, people
Speaker 1: be like, like, what's going on out there? Almost like
Speaker 1: he was like like he was the plug talking about
Speaker 1: let's they talking about right? So and it's funny because
Speaker 1: it's like like you could almost just see people whispering
Speaker 1: around like the you know, around like recess and like
Speaker 1: the lunch room. And and then the story when it
Speaker 1: got to me was I heard, I heard, Oh I
Speaker 1: love the tension. I just love your building. God damn it.
Speaker 1: Go ahead that little Kim. Little Kim had to get
Speaker 1: her stomach pumped because she had so much semen from
Speaker 1: blowing the Wu Tang clan. Whoa, okay, this is okay,
Speaker 1: this didn't go exactly where I thought it was gonna
Speaker 1: go because this is actually and I'm so happy it
Speaker 1: went where it went. Please do not take this as
Speaker 1: me pushing back kofy. Don't you dare take it that
Speaker 1: I won't. I'll let you. I won't let you. What
Speaker 1: I'll say is I had heard the rumor of her
Speaker 1: having sucked so many dicks that she had to get
Speaker 1: her stomach pumped. And I had heard the rumor of
Speaker 1: her son, of her fucking every member of the Wu
Speaker 1: Tang clan. I had not heard that those were one
Speaker 1: in the same. M M, so it's one of those things.
Speaker 1: Were like, are these are these separate incidents or was
Speaker 1: it one day full of heat and has been fornication,
Speaker 1: you know, in the back of a tour bus, and
Speaker 1: then she blew them. But she would have to have
Speaker 1: blown them before the show happened, because I heard that
Speaker 1: she passed out then has to get it pumped that
Speaker 1: she had a show. Let's let's just paint the picture
Speaker 1: for the audience as clearly as possible. In theory, the
Speaker 1: suggestion that that this person brought to you in middle school,
Speaker 1: to your lunch table, is that little Kim before a
Speaker 1: show was like, I need to suck some dicks who's
Speaker 1: around every member of Wu Tang perfect, bring those fellas
Speaker 1: back to this tour bus. And she proceeded to suck
Speaker 1: every single dick so often because there's no way just
Speaker 1: sucking uh nine dicks at the time. I believe by
Speaker 1: this time all dirty Gaster had to have been dead.
Speaker 1: Nine dicks would have filled her stomach to the brim.
Speaker 1: So she sucked every dick over and over again toil
Speaker 1: it was full. And then she went out to perform.
Speaker 1: And at the performance is when she passed out, and
Speaker 1: then subsequently had to go to the hospital to get
Speaker 1: her stomach pumped right, a very rare, serious, severe medical procedure.
Speaker 1: And and and what was I think also what was
Speaker 1: so delightful about their story was when you heard that
Speaker 1: in middle school, you didn't like, You didn't question it
Speaker 1: in terms of, oh, are you sure like? Was it
Speaker 1: was inspected? Was inspected? Deck there like doing that? It
Speaker 1: was its back to Deck has a family. He would
Speaker 1: never do that to his wife and his children. He
Speaker 1: would not turn his back. And I know you got
Speaker 1: personally he's got God in the name, he believes in it.
Speaker 1: He's an about Christian with a couple of bodies leave
Speaker 1: him out of this. So there was none of that
Speaker 1: trying to to to retort or debunk it. It was
Speaker 1: it was an excitement about the possibilities of women out there,
Speaker 1: who could who could for late in a way, because
Speaker 1: we don't even know what the blowjob was. We weren't,
Speaker 1: none of us, to my knowledge, we're even coming yet,
Speaker 1: so we didn't know. Wait a minute, hold on, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna stop you, because that's how they get you. If
Speaker 1: you ain't coming, that's how they get you. Anyway, tell
Speaker 1: the rest of your story. You know, I don't know
Speaker 1: who got me. I don't, but that's how they get you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But as far as I could tell, because we were
Speaker 1: like we were, we were fifth grade, So everybody's about
Speaker 1: ten years old, so nobody's coming, right, and that they
Speaker 1: could be lying about it, but nobody is coming, so
Speaker 1: they lied about it, right. So I'm like, so we
Speaker 1: don't even know how much seemen it would take for
Speaker 1: someone to need their stomach to medically be pumped, so
Speaker 1: we're just believing it on the on the on the
Speaker 1: strength of yo, this is so wild and also like
Speaker 1: what kind of like amazing world is outside when we
Speaker 1: get older, well, when a woman are blowing so many
Speaker 1: guys at a time that they got to get it
Speaker 1: pumped and all the wu tang is together and like
Speaker 1: they're tighten friends and getting blown as friends. Oh man,
Speaker 1: you know what I will say that you just articulated
Speaker 1: uh something about this that I don't think I had
Speaker 1: ever considered or at least it. Maybe it's because of
Speaker 1: when I originally heard this, is that it I think
Speaker 1: I heard it at an older age. I think it
Speaker 1: came to you a little younger than I got it,
Speaker 1: And I think because of that some of that magic,
Speaker 1: that twinkle in my eye had had been lost, But
Speaker 1: for you there was like a beauty to this where
Speaker 1: it's like when I become a big man, I can
Speaker 1: I can be around all my favorite artists getting my
Speaker 1: dick sucked by by women and who who will go
Speaker 1: until until they literally can't go anymore? Right, which is
Speaker 1: just being so uh so amazed by like hearing somebody
Speaker 1: climbs Mount Everest. You know, at the time, I think
Speaker 1: the most I've never like, like, I never even thought
Speaker 1: about somebody being that being that passionate about about anything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she had to have really loved dick sucking in a
Speaker 1: way that that that you know, you Malcolm Gladwell talks
Speaker 1: about ten thousand hours and she had to have been
Speaker 1: willing to put in her ten thousand for for dick sucking. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was that was that That night was her tipping point.
Speaker 1: She went through the thirty six chambers and then stopped
Speaker 1: just kept sucking and sucking. Okay, so so you this person,
Speaker 1: uh what'd you say? His name was the wand what
Speaker 1: what was? The Wan had an older cousin who was
Speaker 1: in a gang, and he used to always have like
Speaker 1: the latest info on the streets, all the stuff that
Speaker 1: King Magazine wasn't publishing. He had it exclusive. So the
Speaker 1: wind comes, he says this to you and your your
Speaker 1: classmate size him at this table. Do you then go
Speaker 1: on to help spread this this rumor? Or are you like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep this close to the chest and this
Speaker 1: is just this just for kofe? Now, I mean I
Speaker 1: took a moment, you know, just just to inhale it,
Speaker 1: you know, just to be present. But after it was
Speaker 1: really the type of that type of scene where like
Speaker 1: you're smiling and you look up and you look around
Speaker 1: the room and everybody's talking about it, and this thing is,
Speaker 1: this thing is has already has already made its way
Speaker 1: around the school. You ain't gonna tell nobody. Everybody's talking
Speaker 1: about it. This isn't this isn't a thing where like
Speaker 1: you you have even the chance to uh to be
Speaker 1: the rumor spreader, because the rumor has already taken hold
Speaker 1: and and done done the zombie bite around the room.
Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking. It's like it was, It's
Speaker 1: just like that. It's it's just like you know, Will
Speaker 1: Smith looking around, but everyone's talking about little Kim blown
Speaker 1: blue tank. You mean, right at the end of at
Speaker 1: the end, when he's looking at the apartment the house
Speaker 1: for the last time, everybody talking about look kimful thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's a legend. J is a legend. And I don't
Speaker 1: know that this is the legend that she wanted for herself.
Speaker 1: I don't know that this is this is the legend
Speaker 1: little Kim imagine, but maybe it is. Maybe maybe in
Speaker 1: your mind, this is exactly where she wanted to be. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, and she has and she said things and
Speaker 1: songs that are i'd say, almost equally as impressive in
Speaker 1: terms of sexual acumen to that. So I mean I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't remember her trying to like hop
Speaker 1: on the TV like that never happened, So I don't
Speaker 1: know if it against her her image of time because
Speaker 1: because that poster, like the iconic poster, I feel was
Speaker 1: like somewhere around there too, and that was sending a
Speaker 1: lot of young boys into men. Me included imagination was
Speaker 1: running wild. I do love the idea that you feel
Speaker 1: like Little Kim should be getting on television and being
Speaker 1: like that Nigga do Win is lying whatever is guys
Speaker 1: that told him? Is that true? I didn't suck off
Speaker 1: master Killer. I I an upstanding woman. Yes, I Little
Speaker 1: Kim kind of growthy denied everything the one and his
Speaker 1: big head cousin said about me. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: ship coming out of Dorchester, which which I don't know
Speaker 1: about because I'm not from that area. But I've heard
Speaker 1: a lot of ship and I just want to address
Speaker 1: it here with you on TRL. Right, you, Carson Bailey,
Speaker 1: get the exclusive about me little Kim Queen be I might,
Speaker 1: I might do some howish things, but I I am
Speaker 1: not a hoe and I do not know who tag
Speaker 1: like that. Fuck you fuck you the wrong, you personally
Speaker 1: your little ten year old ass. Fuck you all right,
Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break. We'll be back with more Kofe,
Speaker 1: Thomas and more, my mama told me. And we are
Speaker 1: not no, no, We're back here with Marco Vi, Thomas more.
Speaker 1: My mama told me. We're still talking about the possibility
Speaker 1: that little Kim sucked so many dicks, specifically woul Tang
Speaker 1: clan member dicks, that she eventually needed to get her
Speaker 1: stomach pumped, had to go to the hospital and ruin
Speaker 1: that show for a lot of fans, has there ever
Speaker 1: been a point now considering the rumor, considering what Dwan
Speaker 1: told you, where you started to second guess the possibility
Speaker 1: of this being true where you went. I don't know
Speaker 1: if Dwan was being completely straight with me that day, honest,
Speaker 1: old the older I get, I haven't lost any of
Speaker 1: my love for the rumor. I've only kind of tempered
Speaker 1: it a little bit to say, maybe it was just
Speaker 1: like a couple members of I can concede it's not plausible,
Speaker 1: plausible for them all to be in the same place
Speaker 1: at the same time, but it is well within reason.
Speaker 1: At that time, everyone's party together. They were at a
Speaker 1: party something happened. They got very intimate, and to this day,
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a limit to how much
Speaker 1: semen smoke as well. Maybe she had, you know, an
Speaker 1: alleged reaction. There's a lot of things that could have
Speaker 1: happened when she had to get her stomach pumped. It
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that she didn't blow more than one member
Speaker 1: of the Wu Tang clan. Sure that she could have
Speaker 1: still blown multiple members of the Wu Tang clan. Even
Speaker 1: if you're being you're coming in this with with the
Speaker 1: rational mind, you're saying, there's still a possibility she blew
Speaker 1: multiple members. And maybe she didn't need to have her
Speaker 1: stomach pump, but merely did have to go to the
Speaker 1: hospital for some sort of like difficulties relating to those
Speaker 1: those penises exactly exactly, And and it's it's also one
Speaker 1: of those things where where where nobody to this day,
Speaker 1: in my entire life, has ever tried to even prove
Speaker 1: me wrong. Nobody from the world, nobody from Kim's camp, nobody,
Speaker 1: not Little Sees, nobody. And the rumors were around the
Speaker 1: quantity of it, and you know that's not something that
Speaker 1: we know. I know, people get stomach hates all the time,
Speaker 1: you know. I know, people get all kinds of food allergies.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I eat some, you know, sometimes if I get like,
Speaker 1: you know, like a street burrito, you might have to
Speaker 1: you know, be on the toilet. So who knows who.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of possibilities, that's all. It's not beyond reason.
Speaker 1: Uh okay, Well, let's let's start to address some of
Speaker 1: the reasons that you're referring to these salacious rumors as
Speaker 1: there were. According to everything that I could find, and
Speaker 1: and Kyfe, I can't wait to hear your thoughts on this.
Speaker 1: According to everything that I could find, there is no
Speaker 1: evidence of little Kim having sex with all ten members
Speaker 1: of the Wu Tang clan. I should say that I've
Speaker 1: sort of separated some of these conspiracies, right because I
Speaker 1: originally understood them as separate things. So I'm going to
Speaker 1: address the conspiracy separately, but you feel free to address
Speaker 1: them however you need to. I'm ready to finally get
Speaker 1: to the bottom. Yeah. Yeah, there's no evidence. Traditional evidence. Now,
Speaker 1: you and I both know traditional evidence ain't always how
Speaker 1: it works, you know what I mean, Like there's there's
Speaker 1: there's facts, and then there's facts and it is a,
Speaker 1: it's a what I've been saved. There's a whole lot
Speaker 1: of I heard, there's a lot of word. She didn't
Speaker 1: say nothing about it. So apparently because I there is
Speaker 1: no evidence necessarily of her having sex with all time members. However,
Speaker 1: to my surprise, and this got me really excited, there
Speaker 1: does seem to have been I was able to track
Speaker 1: down a bit of an origin story for where this
Speaker 1: story might have come from. I did not anticipate finding this.
Speaker 1: I thought it was just gonna be complete nonsense. But
Speaker 1: apparently in April of a person named Nathan Sellers was
Speaker 1: on an episode of Divorce Court. I assume you're a
Speaker 1: big fan of Divorce Court. You you know the show? Well?
Speaker 1: U on Divorce Court, this person, Nathan Seller's accused his
Speaker 1: a strange girlfriend of sleeping with every member of the
Speaker 1: Wu Tang clan. He went on divorce Court to say, A,
Speaker 1: you nasty whore. You've hurt me in a way that
Speaker 1: can never be undone because you had sex with literally
Speaker 1: every member of the Wu Tang claim boom. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't want to say exhibit A, but y'all out
Speaker 1: there herritt So we've all so we have just established
Speaker 1: in our public court of opinion that the Wu Tang
Speaker 1: clan has on more than one occasion allegedly been together
Speaker 1: for a sexual act. Okay, so you hear this and
Speaker 1: you go, well, this ain't little Kim, but this is
Speaker 1: evidence that they would do it previous to this and
Speaker 1: or after this, which means that Little Kim very well
Speaker 1: could still be on the table. Oh yes, that just
Speaker 1: increased the possibility because because previously, any member of the will,
Speaker 1: whether it be ghost Face, whether it be reside, could
Speaker 1: have said, we don't do that. But now illeginally you
Speaker 1: did that. You did that to somebody's wife who's now
Speaker 1: getting divorce. You broke up a happy home, and y'all
Speaker 1: are gonna have to pay for this eventually. So, uh,
Speaker 1: Leah palm quizt is the accused woman's name, and she's
Speaker 1: saying on on divorce court she said, there is in
Speaker 1: fact no basis to this story that this gentleman Nathan Sellers,
Speaker 1: who was a black man, and Leo palm quiz is
Speaker 1: a white woman. I don't know why those facts matter,
Speaker 1: but they do to me. I think it's especial and
Speaker 1: happy Black History Month everybody, honestly. But so she said
Speaker 1: there that that's not true. She said she went to
Speaker 1: a Wu Tang Clan show where she was able to
Speaker 1: meet them the members. After the show, she managed to
Speaker 1: get to sneak backstage and then onto their tour bus,
Speaker 1: where they later went to a hotel room and partied
Speaker 1: until seven am. They partied together until seven am. Now, Leah,
Speaker 1: this is where I'm curious to hear your thoughts. Leah
Speaker 1: also claims that the quote unquote partying included them spending
Speaker 1: hours talking about politics. Leah says that they spent lots
Speaker 1: of hours talking about politics and and that uh it
Speaker 1: was not actually sex. Mm hmm. Okay, okay, okay, now
Speaker 1: let me now, let me just let me just let
Speaker 1: me just put this out there, okay, to everybody out there,
Speaker 1: right to the jury. If I tell you, okay, if
Speaker 1: I tell you, I went to Red Lobster, Okay. And
Speaker 1: I was there till two in the morning, all right,
Speaker 1: And I came home, but I said I didn't eat
Speaker 1: any biscuits. Would you believe me? That's that is what
Speaker 1: we are dealing with. Him, Leah, Leah, Liah Hall of
Speaker 1: family whatever whatever, whatever. Her last name is, pala Man.
Speaker 1: She there is no and this type of thing that
Speaker 1: I know, we're like people will put up like a
Speaker 1: little bit of truth then to a story so that
Speaker 1: you don't know that they're lying. So she tried to
Speaker 1: put in the fact that they were talking about politics,
Speaker 1: which is believable because I could see, like I could
Speaker 1: see Rison talking about politics for like way too long,
Speaker 1: you know, like like going from like talking about like
Speaker 1: how there's parallels between between like the Shawling and and
Speaker 1: local politics and like and we all know, we all
Speaker 1: know ray Kuan's running for city council. We know that
Speaker 1: they're they're passionate about politics, right support his campigny ray
Speaker 1: Kun is definitely out there city council. Yeah, so that's
Speaker 1: I feel so like that part, like that little bit
Speaker 1: of truth is that throw you off the scent of
Speaker 1: it being a lot, you know, because there and there's
Speaker 1: again you don't you don't sneak backstage, sneak all the
Speaker 1: sneak and sneak backstage, sneak onto the tool bus, stay
Speaker 1: to the hotel till seven in the morning. No, and
Speaker 1: then they were all in the same hotel room, all
Speaker 1: the members, right, And I will say that is the
Speaker 1: odd part of this story is is the the way
Speaker 1: that they all sort of like continue to hang out
Speaker 1: together for the whole of the night feels a little
Speaker 1: bit like one of two things happened. Either y'all were
Speaker 1: having sex with this woman and that was the reason
Speaker 1: that you decided to kick it all night, and it
Speaker 1: was specifically for being able to like run this odd
Speaker 1: super train, or alternatively, you don't know what the Wu
Speaker 1: Tang claim members look like, and so there were just
Speaker 1: ten niggas around you, and you were like, yeah, Ray
Speaker 1: Mama was there and space and and it was like,
Speaker 1: now you were just hanging out with Inspector Deck all
Speaker 1: night and end of his friends. But you thought it
Speaker 1: was the Woutanglan Yo. That that's that's so hilariously plausible,
Speaker 1: going to be like yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm hanging out
Speaker 1: with the Liza with specsa a quit. Yeah, they're all here,
Speaker 1: and dudes would do that, We would lie why yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, yeah, I mean, I mean I'm in
Speaker 1: the boutang come back to our hotel. I remember being
Speaker 1: in college and going to Michigan and there was a
Speaker 1: point where we would go to like white frat parties
Speaker 1: and because the white kids didn't actually know what the
Speaker 1: football team looked like. If enough black dude showed up
Speaker 1: at one time, they would assume we were football players.
Speaker 1: And are fully remember leaning into being like our star
Speaker 1: running back for the sake of benefiting from whatever energy
Speaker 1: I could get, you know, pussy drinks, whatever, it didn't matter.
Speaker 1: Good good on you using that car, black bro. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm from Boston, Dorchester. So I've been, you know,
Speaker 1: confused by the black people my entire life. And there's
Speaker 1: been times when I've walked up to bars and they've
Speaker 1: been like, oh, like, oh, you here early from Kanye's party,
Speaker 1: and I was like, yes, I've sat in v I
Speaker 1: P for like an hour before Kanye and his party
Speaker 1: came to a bar way back when because they thought
Speaker 1: I was, Oh, you're black, so you must have been
Speaker 1: with Kanye earlier party. Yeah, I've been letting two bars
Speaker 1: into Oh after a Boston Celtics game, I can go
Speaker 1: to a ball and and and people be like oh yeah,
Speaker 1: like same thing. Oh yeah, we got your section ready.
Speaker 1: I'll go to session, have a couple of drinks and
Speaker 1: then when like this is back in the day, So
Speaker 1: then like like Walter McCarty and like Rigond Rondo came
Speaker 1: in and I was like, yo, what up and daped
Speaker 1: him up, and they just sapped me up because I'm
Speaker 1: the black guy. Oh whit, you're You're a tall dude.
Speaker 1: You you can you can sort of play the line
Speaker 1: enough that they're like, I maybe he's the fifteen player
Speaker 1: on this Celtics thing that I I don't know about,
Speaker 1: and I can't prove it that we took advantage. And
Speaker 1: the somethings were not good at all, so nobody really
Speaker 1: knew their faces that way, except for like me because
Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan. But like me and Rond, they
Speaker 1: were like the same height, so we'd come in, dap
Speaker 1: them up, yeah, hang out, drank. Walter McCarty would trying
Speaker 1: to sing like that's a whole night, oh not a party,
Speaker 1: and under under like the confusion that I might be
Speaker 1: another black person. Yeah. So so in theory, are are sweetheart?
Speaker 1: Leah palm Quiz was, in fact liar palm Quiz excuse me,
Speaker 1: was in fact just talking politics with somebody who kind
Speaker 1: of looked like method Man all night long. And uh,
Speaker 1: she even has a quote. I want to read this
Speaker 1: quote to you. She said, let me just put on
Speaker 1: the record that Wu Tang is nothing but gentlemen. This
Speaker 1: is what she told the court. She said, they treated
Speaker 1: me highly respectful, and I would never cheat on him.
Speaker 1: I I don't even know if this is appropriate to say,
Speaker 1: but I'd never be a bus down or a groupie
Speaker 1: in that type of situation. I kept my lady points together,
Speaker 1: kept my lady points together. I would never be a
Speaker 1: groupie or a bus down in that type of situation. Okay,
Speaker 1: here's you know. And again it's like little like she's
Speaker 1: she's saying too much, and that's how I know she lying.
Speaker 1: She's talking too much, saying saying what she say about
Speaker 1: the woud Tang. What was that quote? But nothing, nothing
Speaker 1: but that right there, because nobody, no buddy I know,
Speaker 1: is nothing but a gentleman. And for you to say that, no,
Speaker 1: Immediately in my mind I'm like, oh, they like they
Speaker 1: dicked you down so well that you are grateful and
Speaker 1: you don't want to jeopardize any future dick downs. So
Speaker 1: you're like no, and you're like winking at the camera,
Speaker 1: like no, gentle method man. He would never, he would never.
Speaker 1: He's he's the salt. He's assaulted. Earth's great, great guy.
Speaker 1: And I would never do that, and they a matter
Speaker 1: of fact, they kept bringing up how much charity work
Speaker 1: they do about the city. He's like, yeah, no, I
Speaker 1: don't know if they're nothing but gentlemen. I think first
Speaker 1: and foremost they're cocaine salesman and they're gentlemen. Yeah. They
Speaker 1: they've said in in most of their lyrics and how
Speaker 1: how they have cases and people to hurt, uh, and
Speaker 1: how they're not to be fucked with. They don't say
Speaker 1: funk with us. Yeah with us, we're very classy boys.
Speaker 1: We have very demonati. Please keep your distance, ladies, do
Speaker 1: that funk with us, don't come back to our hotel room.
Speaker 1: So this goes viral, this this clip of Leo palm
Speaker 1: Quist and her boyfriend, so much so that when it
Speaker 1: went viral, and I'm excited to hear your response to
Speaker 1: this before we go to break. Interestingly enough, after it
Speaker 1: goes viral, it gets so popular that multiple Wu Tang
Speaker 1: clan members actually addressed the rumors directly. There. There's a
Speaker 1: couple of them that I would say, I think I
Speaker 1: have four or five of them that that directly addressed
Speaker 1: the rumors. Method man first and foremost immediately denied having
Speaker 1: sex with her calling her, quote unquote, an older thought.
Speaker 1: That's method Man's response to Leo palm Quiz. Rizza said
Speaker 1: he watched the episode and similarly said, and I ain't
Speaker 1: been there. That that's the quote from what Riz. He said,
Speaker 1: I ain't been there, and ghost Face kill us at
Speaker 1: the same thing, he said, I ain't been there, and
Speaker 1: then Massacula. This is my personal favorite. He exclaimed. They
Speaker 1: said he yelled out, I never seen it. That's that's
Speaker 1: what he said, I've never seen it. So this is
Speaker 1: four members Art Records saying that they did not fuck
Speaker 1: Leo palm Quiz. Your thoughts, Oh, man, I ain't been there.
Speaker 1: I've never seen it. Great answer. Somebody somebody took dictation,
Speaker 1: like he exclaimed, he shouted from the roofs I ain't
Speaker 1: seen it. Yeah. I love that they like made sure
Speaker 1: to get through that emotion. I ain't seen it. Oh
Speaker 1: that's lovely, that's just precious. I look, I think it's
Speaker 1: within their best interest to to publicly denouncing it. Have
Speaker 1: hant have Sington, have had to have been there is
Speaker 1: only a negative to where they are, especially where with
Speaker 1: their ambitions within acting and other media. To have something
Speaker 1: like that out, I think that you know, they've kind
Speaker 1: of made several efforts to kind of distance themselves from
Speaker 1: that facaul that image of the woo and running up
Speaker 1: and in that type of life. So it's interesting you
Speaker 1: say that. I think I think you're making an interesting
Speaker 1: point because the three three of the four people we
Speaker 1: have on record denying it are also three of the
Speaker 1: four most or three of the most famous members of
Speaker 1: the group. And so subsequently, may they have a little
Speaker 1: bit more on the line if they agree to have
Speaker 1: having sex with this quote unquote Older thought that like,
Speaker 1: maybe it's to their benefit to just be like, no,
Speaker 1: I ain't never been there, rather than to continue to
Speaker 1: to sort of tow this line of their former selves.
Speaker 1: Oh see big facts, big facts on that bro, bro,
Speaker 1: Because if they was to keep quiet, right and then
Speaker 1: he could then he could be like, oh, it don't
Speaker 1: really matter to him, because if it's with the image
Speaker 1: that they want out there or even like close to it,
Speaker 1: then they don't really give a ship who killed with this,
Speaker 1: who killed with lee ah liar on the voice court set,
Speaker 1: even if it gets retweeted whatever. So if something is
Speaker 1: possibly against your image, then you verbally denounce it. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying you wait, you weigh that out. However,
Speaker 1: if you might have done it and it's with your image,
Speaker 1: then you might keep quiet. I don't know, like a
Speaker 1: like a Little Kim, I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 1: how we got that. Well. I think that's the perfect
Speaker 1: way to throw us the break. We're gonna take a break.
Speaker 1: We'll be back with Marko Be Thomas and more. My
Speaker 1: mama told me we are Kenny Lenda Nigga a pencil. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're back here with more, Kofie, Thomas more. My mama
Speaker 1: told me. We're still talking about the possibility that Lo
Speaker 1: Kim could have sucked all them Woo Tang members dicks.
Speaker 1: This is the the theory that's on the table. Kofi
Speaker 1: does not seem to be in the least bit suede
Speaker 1: by the story of Leah palm Quist and her denial
Speaker 1: of having had sex with all nine living members of
Speaker 1: the Wu Tang claim. Now, I want to circle us
Speaker 1: back to Little Kim a little bit, because because we
Speaker 1: got real lost in the weeds of this Leah palm
Speaker 1: Quist character, one of the questions I had is how
Speaker 1: a journey like that of Leah palm Quist might be
Speaker 1: appropriated or unfairly or maybe fairly associated with Little Kim.
Speaker 1: How does this white woman on divorce court suddenly become
Speaker 1: the journey that Little Kim is meant to take on?
Speaker 1: And I'm curious to hear your thoughts on that. Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1: So how so how does she kind of how does
Speaker 1: she take the spotnight or how does she take like
Speaker 1: when you say take the journey? Elaborate on this on
Speaker 1: this seem adventure. Yes, so, I think I think there
Speaker 1: is an argument to be made that this was not,
Speaker 1: in fact Little Kim's story. This was just Leah palm
Speaker 1: Quist story. Now, I know you're not making that argument.
Speaker 1: I'm listening. I know that ain't your argument, but I
Speaker 1: do think that that there is an argument to be
Speaker 1: made that way, and I'm curious to know how you
Speaker 1: think it it comes to be that a Leah palm
Speaker 1: Quist story becomes Little keep story. Okay, okay, I will
Speaker 1: I will extend. I will extend a an olive branch
Speaker 1: here we love because yeah, yes, yes, I am merciful
Speaker 1: bringing it because if again we can bring it back
Speaker 1: to our time of of you know, of of baggy
Speaker 1: jeans and clothes on backwards, where rumors really spread like wildfire,
Speaker 1: and it was a bit of a giant game of
Speaker 1: telephone where facts get misplaced and get substituted, and people's
Speaker 1: names get rearranged, maybe to make something more appealing and
Speaker 1: more exciting. And so if they're I mean, and very
Speaker 1: well could have been I'd say the high probability that
Speaker 1: wu tang. At the time, they're rappers, they're on top
Speaker 1: of the world. Women are sneaking backstage and we'll do,
Speaker 1: you know what, whatever they like at that point, you know,
Speaker 1: and you know, going going into that there, it's a
Speaker 1: high possibility that some some woman got backstage. You know.
Speaker 1: The guys had a long night, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: They decided, hey, this is one of our bonding moments,
Speaker 1: like when you go to Thailand together, and they started
Speaker 1: to you know, get a hotel room, do some type
Speaker 1: of orgy or a train, depending on where you're from.
Speaker 1: She she she had to go to the hospital for
Speaker 1: I'm was still going to get her stomach pump for
Speaker 1: some reason. But it could have been a mix of
Speaker 1: It could have been like too much hypnotic and and
Speaker 1: blowing and blowing nine dudes don't know what you don't
Speaker 1: know what coming hypnotic mixed together is like, but oh
Speaker 1: that's a ricking the song drank a little hip, no
Speaker 1: throwing it up, that's ship that So so there's more
Speaker 1: evidence of hypnotic and come making people sick. All right,
Speaker 1: So I'm wish you take this woman this Leah Liar Right,
Speaker 1: she's had this this escapade till seven in the morning,
Speaker 1: talking politics with these great gentlemen and blowing them, gets sick,
Speaker 1: has to go to the hospital. She just not pumped
Speaker 1: people hear about that story. It's a real story. My
Speaker 1: bad to her husband. Now we don't know, Leah, the
Speaker 1: story is not doesn't have enough scizzle on it as
Speaker 1: a young kid who kill some lea person. But we
Speaker 1: already know that little Kim has been on tracks talking
Speaker 1: about she could fit like a what do you say,
Speaker 1: like like like a can in her mouth, like a
Speaker 1: whole pepsi can wild ship. She the you know, the
Speaker 1: guy with a hurricane tongues all this, so so she
Speaker 1: already has that right. Olivia Olivia, our producer, immediately jumped
Speaker 1: in to clarify that it was a stripe can. Apparently
Speaker 1: we have deep branding roots with sprite and not pepsi
Speaker 1: and she felt the need to enter Jack. This is
Speaker 1: an odd interruption in the middle of of the thing.
Speaker 1: I love it so much, but also shows how widely
Speaker 1: known it is about Little Kim's blowjob skills. In the house,
Speaker 1: she boasts about it. So you take those, you know,
Speaker 1: immaculate next level blowjob skills with this story of the
Speaker 1: whole clan getting blown and now you've got a protagonist
Speaker 1: that is so captivating. That's like, Yo, I heard Little
Speaker 1: Kim suck the Woo Tank clans Dix and has so
Speaker 1: much seamen she has to get her stomach pumped. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think what you're doing makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1: Right in the way that, like conspiracy theory rumor often
Speaker 1: works is that these stories track better with characters we
Speaker 1: can care about. And right now, with a Leah sucking
Speaker 1: on random members of the Wu Tang clan, we we
Speaker 1: aren't fully invested in who Leah is. But if it's
Speaker 1: Little Kim, or even worse if if Little Kim, if
Speaker 1: we flip, it is sucking random dicks to the point
Speaker 1: that she has to get her stomach pumped. There, who
Speaker 1: are these men who do these dicks belong to? Where
Speaker 1: did this come come from? These are all questions that I,
Speaker 1: the reader, the listener, the the receiver of Dwan's rumor
Speaker 1: want to know. But by adding characters that we know about,
Speaker 1: I become invested all the way through, and it's it's
Speaker 1: really a great form of publicity for all members involved.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think everybody involved in that story benefited.
Speaker 1: I can't. I don't have the trusting for me, but
Speaker 1: I'm sure all of their record sales went up, you know,
Speaker 1: after that rumor came out school with new with new
Speaker 1: fact and again it was it was the time when
Speaker 1: it was like these were like bigger than life people
Speaker 1: to us, and they just got like even bigger, like
Speaker 1: oh like what a you know, what a life? What
Speaker 1: a story that people around there, you know, doing things
Speaker 1: like that. And Kim didn't like it wasn't any type
Speaker 1: of shaming either of like oh I heard it. It
Speaker 1: was like it was like it was like, yo, I
Speaker 1: hope someday I can meet little Kim, Like I remember,
Speaker 1: I remember my cousin he used to cut hair. Shout
Speaker 1: out to my big cousin day he was doing my
Speaker 1: hair cut. And I was a young kid and so
Speaker 1: like I didn't have any sexy posts around my room, right,
Speaker 1: But in the barbershop they had this post must have
Speaker 1: been like six ft wide, and it was like that
Speaker 1: little Kim post to the famous one in the leopard
Speaker 1: print type of KINI in the squad. Nice to just
Speaker 1: look at that, like, yeah, that's her. She she a legend,
Speaker 1: and I do I think there there is. And I'm
Speaker 1: cautious to say this, but there is a slight feminist
Speaker 1: lens that you're putting on this in acknowledging that that
Speaker 1: we are not shaming the person who sucked all these
Speaker 1: dicks and in fact just saying it is a legendary
Speaker 1: choice that was made, not one that needs to be braided.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, Yes, you know, I'll take that a
Speaker 1: step further. You know, even even back then, I was like, man,
Speaker 1: I don't know you know what I'm saying, because I
Speaker 1: wasn't there, unfortunately at my young ten year old age.
Speaker 1: But I was like, but then if she's just remember
Speaker 1: hearing her her lyrics and you know, just just so
Speaker 1: musically and so passionately. I remember thinking, man, you know,
Speaker 1: I wish I wish more, I wish more people were
Speaker 1: like little Kim M. You know, it wasn't it wasn't
Speaker 1: that she's she's something said though she's somebody to be
Speaker 1: shown on a found upon No, I wish we had
Speaker 1: a thousand more like passionate can swallow a spright can
Speaker 1: just making the world hurts. I will say, because I
Speaker 1: did some research to look up the potential validity of
Speaker 1: this dick sucking rumor, as it turns out, or at
Speaker 1: least according to the Internet, that there doesn't seem to
Speaker 1: be a lot of correlation of Little Kim and this
Speaker 1: this stomach pumping story right when it is fairly obvious,
Speaker 1: as you pointed out, is that Little Kim has sucked
Speaker 1: a fair amount of dicks uh, and she seems to
Speaker 1: know how to tell when a dick when her bellies
Speaker 1: full from dick sucking. She she doesn't. There's not a
Speaker 1: lot of evidence of her like going overboard goldfish style
Speaker 1: and uh and waiting until her stomach is about to
Speaker 1: explode from in her mouth. Additionally, I will say that
Speaker 1: I looked up how much semen comes out per load,
Speaker 1: that how much a man ejaculates, and as it turns out,
Speaker 1: it's not that much. It's somewhere between like a tea
Speaker 1: on average, somewhere between a teaspoon and a tablespoon amount
Speaker 1: of of come, which means that that's a whole lot
Speaker 1: of dicks to be sucking, and that would have to
Speaker 1: be full dicks, heavy balls to really get that stomach
Speaker 1: all the way to pumping point. M m mmmm. Ok,
Speaker 1: yeah we got so we got some medical journal facts overhead.
Speaker 1: I didn't know he was gonna bring science to this mother, Like,
Speaker 1: oh God, I've been honest. You caught me a little
Speaker 1: bit off God with that whole noise in the medical
Speaker 1: journal thing. All right, So because the the problem is,
Speaker 1: I also gotta I also gotta dumb mind. So I'm
Speaker 1: all right between between a teaspoon and a table spoon
Speaker 1: because I always forget which one is bigger, all right
Speaker 1: in the second league, who who is measuring who? He's
Speaker 1: gonna come right into it because I was a man.
Speaker 1: You're a tablespoon. Yeah, good for you. You got the
Speaker 1: tablespoon spoon. Shame on you, big up. Yeah, I will,
Speaker 1: I will say this. It only takes a tablespoon, just
Speaker 1: just a tablespoon of bacon powder to make a whole cake.
Speaker 1: So yeah, you know, I love that because I don't
Speaker 1: know what that means. But but it's a fair point. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm I'm pretty sure it's right, okay. That
Speaker 1: the other thing that I'll say, and I can't imagine
Speaker 1: at this point you could even possibly be swayed. But
Speaker 1: the the other thing I'll say is that this rumor
Speaker 1: apparently is not limited to Little Kim, And in fact,
Speaker 1: when I originally pitched this show, when I originally pitched
Speaker 1: this podcast, uh tow Big Money Players, one of the
Speaker 1: things that we talked about was this exact rumor that
Speaker 1: Little Kim had sucked so many dicks that she had
Speaker 1: to get her stomach pumped. And the the white producer
Speaker 1: that I was speaking to, a gentleman named Nick, said, Oh,
Speaker 1: that's so funny, because that is a rumor that I
Speaker 1: heard about Rod Stewart, that apparently Rod Stewart, in the
Speaker 1: white community, is the person who sucked so many dicks
Speaker 1: that he had to get his stomach pumped. And in fact,
Speaker 1: this is a a rumor that has existed for a
Speaker 1: number of other celebrities, including Elton John, David Bowie, Make Jagger,
Speaker 1: and Foxy Brown, amongst the host of others. I M hmmm, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, and I'll tell you what from hearing that
Speaker 1: now for the first time, I'm pretty sure that's what
Speaker 1: do we say, except for David Bowie and Falsey Brown
Speaker 1: all true? Probably, like I'll put I put money on it.
Speaker 1: There's just little Kim is not an isolated incident. People stopped,
Speaker 1: stop stop following the media. Yeah, like this is the
Speaker 1: first time it happened. And obviously a lot of times
Speaker 1: rumors replicate life. You know, a little bit of a lie,
Speaker 1: but a whole lot of truth. So it's not just
Speaker 1: lead a liar who got her start pumped, and other
Speaker 1: people throughout history have had to get pumped. And maybe
Speaker 1: it wasn't just to come. Maybe it's a mix of
Speaker 1: a long night of drugs, a few different drinks, some
Speaker 1: hip no throwing it up, and some coming and then
Speaker 1: you've got to get your stuff, and then of course
Speaker 1: you want to be ill. Maybe maybe Elton John had
Speaker 1: a big old play the gumbo and sucked a lot
Speaker 1: of digs and now he had to get his stomach
Speaker 1: pumped and all of that ain't come coming out of there.
Speaker 1: See that's too much sodio. Yeah, that makes sense, that
Speaker 1: makes sense. I know my medical journals too. You can't
Speaker 1: you can't have medical journal meat. Yeah, that's that's gonna
Speaker 1: throw off his his acid base ratio on his stomach.
Speaker 1: I know ship, God damn well Brown, I don't believe either,
Speaker 1: but that's a whole lot of thing. Well, Kofe, I
Speaker 1: think you did it. I think you you made your point. No,
Speaker 1: I think everybody who could who could argue with you
Speaker 1: now given the information that you've you've sort of laid
Speaker 1: out in front of everybody. This was a wonderful episode.
Speaker 1: I had a lovely time with you. Could you tell
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Speaker 1: Before before we get out of here, real quick, god
Speaker 1: to say big, big thank you to my homie Lanks.
Speaker 1: And that's what my homie for real for all y'all
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