1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: Dear listeners of Hollywood Land, does it feel like you're 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: stuck in limbo? Standing under a flickering street light at 3 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 1: the corner of Hollywood and True Crime, waiting for the 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:13,159 Speaker 1: next episode of hollywood Land to drop. I got you. 5 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: Welcome to hollywood Land, the Rap Party. What is going on? 6 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: My good people of Hollywood Land. We are back at 7 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 1: it once again, back in the saddle back on this 8 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: thing we call the Rap Party. This is the show 9 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 1: that gets you from one full episode of hollywood Land 10 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 1: to the next. The place for obsessives just like you, 11 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: the movie geeks, the true crime freaks, the ones who 12 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: liked our movie history with a side of grit and grime. 13 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: My name is Deeth Lundy, writer at Double Elvis and 14 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: showrunner for hollywood Land, the sister show to Disgrace Land, 15 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: the og Music and True Crime Pod. And on this 16 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: bonus episode of hollywood Land, we are talking about this 17 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: week's full episode subject Benedicte Cumberbatch. We are previewing next 18 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:08,759 Speaker 1: week's episode on John Waters. We're talking about kidnappings, chair companies, 19 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 1: and of course we're gonna check out your voicemails, text 20 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: dms and emails. So come on everybody, let's party. 21 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 2: Well. 22 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: In the words of the immortal Rick Okasik, Hello, hello again, 23 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: and welcome to another installment of this thing we call 24 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: the Rap Party. I hope that you and yours had 25 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: a relaxing and fulfilling Thanksgiving holiday. It was nice and 26 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: quiet and uneventful, and the best possible way up here 27 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: in my neck of the woods. Though, I will say 28 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: that after a couple of less than impressive winters, it 29 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: would seem that we are in for it this year, 30 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: as the tempts have been already dropping, and as I'm 31 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: recording right now, we are getting the first snowstorm of 32 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: the season. I'm watching the flakes fall outside my window here, 33 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: and yeah, I know that we are technically still a 34 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: few weeks away from actual winter winter winter, but you know, 35 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving is kind of the unofficial end of fall, or 36 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: at least that's how it's always felt to me. Hey, listen, 37 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: a little bit later in the show, We're gonna do 38 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: something different here this week. I'm just I'm psyched about it, 39 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: so I'm gonna tell you guys about it now. In 40 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: the recommendation section, the part of the show where I 41 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: usually tell you what I'm watching listening to and reading. 42 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do something a little different. I'm gonna get 43 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: my buddy, my coworker, Matt Bowden in here. We're going 44 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: to talk about this HBO show called The Chair Company, 45 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: which just ran at season finale this past weekend. And 46 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 1: the two of us have been watching this show week 47 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 1: to week. We've been texting about it NonStop with each other, 48 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: and I've kind of saved holding off talking about this 49 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: with you guys until now because I knew that I 50 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: wanted to have Matt come on and just he and 51 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: I just have an old fashioned, just casual conversation about this, 52 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: So you're gonna want to stick around for that. We're 53 00:02:57,680 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 1: going to break down what we loved about it, why 54 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: the show works so well, and honestly, what makes this 55 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: different than anything else that's on TV right now or 56 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: perhaps even ever in some regard. But back here in 57 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: what we call the B block of the show, a 58 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: little inside baseball there for you. I would be remiss 59 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: if I didn't mention that it's all about Benedict Cumberbatch 60 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 1: this week. I always have a problem saying his name 61 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: without tripping over a syllable here or there, So to 62 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 1: please forgive me if I do that. Benedict cumber Batch, who, incidentally, 63 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: it was recently announced he will star in the upcoming 64 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: film directed by Guy Ritchie called Wife and Dog. This 65 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: also co stars Rosamond Pike, Anthony Hopkins, and Patty Considine. 66 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: According to the press, it takes place in quote the colorful, 67 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: backstabbing world of the British aristocracy, and it will also 68 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: reportedly be similar in tone to Guy Ritchie's excellent twenty 69 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: nineteen film The Gentleman, which you may or may not 70 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,119 Speaker 1: know is later spun off into a possibly even more 71 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: excellent series for Netflix. Now, there was a time when 72 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: Guy Ritchie was dismissed as just another Tarantino facsimile, like 73 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: he was the British version of what Quentin Tarantino was doing. 74 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: And I remember this very well. In fact, it was 75 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 1: the second half of the nineties. I was in college. 76 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: This was in the wake of reservoir Dogs and pulp fiction, 77 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 1: when the indie film boom intersected with true crime. In 78 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: this way, you had Guy Ritchie's lock Stock and Two 79 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 1: Smoking Barrels, and then you had Snatch after that, and 80 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: then you had all these other movies by these other 81 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: upstart directors who were interested in similar things. You know, 82 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: you had the Boondock Saints, things to do in Denver 83 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: when You're dead, two Days in the Valley, the Way 84 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: of the Gun. It just goes on and on, And 85 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: especially in the case of Guy Ritchie's films, you had 86 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 1: a similar Tarantino thing where they had these soundtracks that 87 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: doubled as these like bespoke curated collections of you know, 88 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: some familiar songs, but a lot of forgotten gems or 89 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: tracks that were suddenly made cool again by the movie. 90 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,239 Speaker 1: Right in the case of Lockstock and Two Smoking Barrels, 91 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: I'm thinking of a song like Lease and Thieves by 92 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: Junior Mervin, or I Want to Be Your Dog by 93 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: the Stooges, or Spooky by Dusty Springfield, which is the 94 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: best version of that song, by the way. But again, 95 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: at the time, as popular as these films were with 96 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: some people, you know, Guy Ritchie was largely derided as 97 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 1: a Tarantina wanna be Now. I watched both of these 98 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: films again recently, and I've got to say, as much 99 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 1: as I do like them, they do feel dated in 100 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,359 Speaker 1: a way that a film like pulp fiction does not. 101 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 1: You can really feel the influence of like nineties era MTV, 102 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: the way that they're shot and cut. I still enjoy them. 103 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 1: Like I said, listen, you put a bunch of English 104 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: slang and English, British, Welsh, Irish, Scottish accents in a movie, 105 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: and I'm there it can be six hours long. I'll 106 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 1: be riveted. I just love that shit. But probably goes 107 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: back to my roots, my ancestors. I guess coming over 108 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 1: from Lundy Island. There's an island off the coast of 109 00:05:55,440 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 1: England called Lundy Island that I'm determined to visit these days. 110 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: Just FYI. But then, you know, something happened with Guy Ritchie, right, 111 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: and I think this is after his divorce from Madonna, 112 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: but he finds his own voice and it would have 113 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: been there all along. But in twenty nineteen he makes 114 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: The Gentleman, which is my favorite Guy Ritchie film if 115 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: you haven't seen it. Matthew McConaughey, Colin Farrell, Hugh Grant, 116 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: Jeremy Strong, Matthe McConaughey is this American drug lord in 117 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: England who's like looking to sell his business. And then 118 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: Guy Ritchie makes Rathamann in twenty twenty one with Jason Statham, 119 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 1: which is a super dope action film. He's got his 120 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: mojo back, you know. Of course he's also tossing around 121 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 1: these clunkers at the same time as he is wont 122 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:39,239 Speaker 1: to do you know, he's got to pay the bills. 123 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: I'm thinking of that Fountain of Youth film that came 124 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 1: out earlier this year on Apple TV Plus, which I've 125 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: wasted a couple of hours of my life on. And 126 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 1: I'm also never gonna watch his live action Aladdin either. 127 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: Think I'm pretty safe in saying that. But this is 128 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: all to say I'm stoked for this new guy Ritchie 129 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: film Wife and Dog intriguing title. Excited to see him 130 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: working with Bennett Cumberbatch. No word yet if this new 131 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: film will involve a kidnapping, but if you've listened to 132 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: our Benedict Cumberbatch episode, you know that the whole thing 133 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: revolves around this real life thing that happened in two 134 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: thousand and four. I believe when the English actor was 135 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: kidnapped at gunpoint while making a film in South Africa. 136 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: He was thrown into a car, he was tied up, 137 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: He feared for his life. He like literally thought he 138 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: was going to die. They were going to like execute 139 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: him somewhere. It is indeed an insane story. And you know, 140 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: the whole concept of kidnapping. Growing up as I did 141 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: in the eighties as a gen xer, kidnapping was so 142 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: imprinted on our brains, and looking back, it's wild because 143 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: on the one hand, we were latch key kids. We 144 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: walked to and from school, We came home in the 145 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: afternoon to an empty house. We were told to come 146 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: home at night when the street lights came on for dinner. 147 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: In my case, I wasn't allowed to cross the bridge 148 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: that went over the river that cut my hometown in 149 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: half when I was younger, at least to stay on 150 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: our side of the bridge. But what I mean is 151 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: it's wild because we were given that kind of freedom, 152 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: yet at the same time, this notion of kidnapping just 153 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: was so ever present and it really hung heavy over 154 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: our heads. This was peak stranger danger days. You know, 155 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: peak you see a white van, you turn around and 156 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: walk the other way days. And honestly, it's not something 157 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: I think about a ton now. It's not something I 158 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: worry about with my own kids. But thinking about this 159 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: this week, I was curious to know what other instances 160 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: of kidnapping had occurred here in Hollywoodland. Beyond mister cumber Batch. 161 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 1: Of course, there was Patty Hurst infamously kidnapped by the 162 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: Symbionese Liberation Army, who then indoctrinated her. This is back 163 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy four, and we have an episode on 164 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: that here in Hollywood Land. But there are others, and 165 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: specifically like Benet and a Cumberbatch, there are instances where 166 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: people were kidnapped while they were making movies and TV shows, 167 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: like on set, which is fascinating. Back in nineteen ninety six, 168 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: Jessica Alba, when she was just fifteen, she was filming 169 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 1: the Flipper TV series in Australia. Haven't seen it, can't 170 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 1: speak to that, sorry, but she was started getting these 171 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,439 Speaker 1: weird anonymous phone calls and there was just this day 172 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: where she just vanished and it wasn't for like fourteen 173 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: hours later they found her bound and gagged in the 174 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 1: trunk of a car miles away from the film set. 175 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 1: I don't believe her kidnappers were ever found or any 176 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: kind of motive was ever determined either. Just totally freaky. 177 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 1: And then in two thousand and eight, Justin Long has 178 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: talked about being drugged and driven around Michigan. He was 179 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: there filming the movie Youth in Revolt with Michael Sarah 180 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: and apparently Justin Long was out drinking and chatted up 181 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 1: some locals or something and they gave him, I don't know, 182 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: a hit off a joint or something, and the joint 183 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: was like laced with PCP and he had no idea 184 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 1: and so it like completely fucked him up. These dudes 185 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: kidnapped him. They threatened to film him while he was 186 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: high and release the footage to TMZ. So he jumped 187 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: from a moving vehicle to escape, got a little nerve 188 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: damage on his leg there. But that's a crazy story. 189 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: This other one lesser known here in the States. This 190 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: is back in nineteen ninety. There's a Hong Kong actress 191 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: named Karina Lao. She was on her way to a 192 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: fellow actress house and she was kidnapped by men who 193 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,959 Speaker 1: were following her, who then released her three hours after 194 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: she was taken. But the really fucked up part of 195 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: this story is that twelve years later, in two thousand 196 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: and two, this publication called East Week magazine in Hong Kong. 197 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: It seems to be like a rag. Really, they published 198 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 1: these topless photos of her that apparently have been taken 199 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: while she was abducted, and a bunch of celebrities spoke 200 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: out in Hong Kong about this, including Jackie Chan calling 201 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: out this East Week magazine for the pieces of shit 202 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: that they are. Apparently the magazine forced to suspend its 203 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: operations temporarily and everything just so fucked up, crazy crazy 204 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: stories here. But you know, in the movie world, the 205 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: make believe world that is kidnapping, I suppose is its 206 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: own subgenre of the crime or thriller film classification. Right, So, 207 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: just thinking about this, I want to know what you think. 208 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,839 Speaker 1: What's the best film about a kidnapping or the best 209 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: film that involves kidnapping in some way? The first one 210 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: that comes to my mind immediately, as soon as I thought, 211 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:34,479 Speaker 1: soon as I thought about that question is that movie Prisoners, 212 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: the Denis Villeneuve movie with Jake Jillenhall and Hugh Jackman. 213 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: My second favorite Villaineuve behind Sakario, I think, I think. Anyway, 214 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,559 Speaker 1: let me know what's the best film about kidnapping? Hit 215 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,839 Speaker 1: me up six one seven nine oh six six six 216 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: three eight. You can text me, you can leave me 217 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: a voicemail and Hey, maybe I'll play that voicemail or 218 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: read that text in a future episode of hollywood Land, 219 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 1: just like I'm going to do right after this quick break. 220 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 3: So hang tight, oh write. 221 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: All you beautiful people out there, listening at work, on 222 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 1: the go, in the kitchen, in the car, walking around 223 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 1: the block, running up that hill, wherever you are, Welcome 224 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: back to hollywood Lands, specifically to the part of the 225 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: show where I talk with all of you, whether it's 226 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: responding to your voicemails or texts or dms or Patreon 227 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: combos or whatever. So let's get into it, shall we. 228 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: Last week I was waxing poetic about Thanksgiving movies, or 229 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: I guess the lack thereof, and Bill in the six 230 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: oh four gave us a call, Matt, can you play 231 00:12:58,640 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: that voicemail? 232 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 4: Hi, my name is Bill. I'm phoning from the six four, 233 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 4: which is the Greater Vancouver area, British Columbia. I have 234 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 4: a comment. Actually, this is for hollywood Land, for or 235 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 4: the Thanksgiving episode, and there was no mention of a 236 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 4: movie that I quite like, That's all about Thanksgiving made 237 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 4: in two thousand and eight with Katie Holmes and that 238 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 4: Patricia Clarkson, among others. Is called Pieces of April. Takes 239 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 4: place at Thanksgiving, kind of like the kid that doesn't 240 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 4: fit in, the young adult that doesn't fit in with 241 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 4: the family trying to find themselves, and she's decided she 242 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 4: wants to host her family for Thanksgiving dinner if she's 243 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 4: never made turkey before. You find out later the mother 244 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 4: is dying and this might be the last time. And 245 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 4: when they finally show up, so many things have gone wrong. 246 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 4: The oven doesn't work in their heart, some of their 247 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 4: neighbors come to the rescue. Some of it's very funny. 248 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 4: It's really really really touching. It's not a perfect movie, 249 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 4: but it's a great moment. That's all Bill. 250 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,559 Speaker 1: Great to hear from you, and excellent call on this film, 251 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: Pieces of April. I have actually never seen this before, 252 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: but oddly enough, it's one of those movies where I 253 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: could pick the poster out of a lineup if you 254 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: took all the text out of the poster and it 255 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: was just the image. For whatever reason, that image of 256 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: Katie Holmes on that poster has stuck in my mind. 257 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: And it's not because I'm all like I have a 258 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: crush on Katie Holmes or whatever. I had nothing to 259 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: do with that. It's just because I think she looks 260 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: so much against type, against the type that that she'd 261 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: been cast as at the time. It was a negative 262 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: the opposite of her Dawson's Creek image. Like she's like 263 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: has like an alt girl vibe going on, right. So 264 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: I was curious about this movie, Bill, so I looked 265 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: it up, and it's written and directed by this guy, 266 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: Peter Hedges, who also wrote the screenplay for What's Heed 267 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: and Gilbert Grape based on his own novel, and he 268 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: also wrote the adaptation of About a Boy then the 269 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: Quarmi novel that was turned into a movie with You 270 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: Grant with a great, great, great original soundtrack by Badly 271 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: Drown Boy. Shit. If you don't know that, you should 272 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: check that out. I think it's just called about a Boy, 273 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: or maybe the record has a different title. I think 274 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: it's just about a boy. The soundtrack Bally and drown 275 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: Boy killing it there, Man Manchester represents speaking about England earlier. 276 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: So this is very interesting though, Bill. You know I'm 277 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: going to check this out next Thanksgiving for sure. And 278 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: you know, hearing you talk about this movie unlocked another 279 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: movie for me too, which is The Family Stone with 280 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: Diane Keaton, and I think this is said at Christmas 281 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: and not Thanksgiving, but it just feels like a similar vibe. 282 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: And I remember when I saw this. I think I 283 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: saw it a few years after it originally came out. 284 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: My mother just recently passed away, and I didn't realize 285 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: that the mom Diane Keaton dies in this movie. Sorry guys, 286 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: spoiler alert, and it just it wrecked me. The Family 287 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: stone far, far, far from a perfect film, but one 288 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: of the only ones to ever make me cry. All right, Bill, 289 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: thanks again for reaching out, and happy Holidays to you 290 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: up there in Canada. A I need to mention that 291 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: Bill's message was not the only one I got about 292 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: this movie Pieces of April. I also got a text 293 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: that reads high on Rose in the seven seven five. 294 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: I am surprised Pieces of April was not included in 295 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: your Thanksgiving classics list. It's an indie gym with great performances. 296 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: It's not family friendly for the first five minutes or so, 297 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: but after that it's a movie we can all relate to. 298 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: Happy Thanksgiving to all. I am off to prepare the potatoes. Rose, 299 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: Thank you. I hope those potatoes were delish. And what 300 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: can I say I miss some I miss some big ones. 301 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: Apparently this feels like a big Thanksgiving movie and it 302 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: was completely off my radar. I was called out not 303 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: only by Bill and Rose, but also by my guy 304 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: Matt and the three one seven who wrote in and 305 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: mentioned this movie. And Matt also I'm not going to 306 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: read the whole text here, but Matt also corrected me 307 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: I misspoke last week. He wanted to let me know 308 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: that the Big Chill was not set during Thanksgiving. Shit, dude, 309 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: this is what happens when I just go off the 310 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 1: old dome here, you know, old school style. So I 311 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: appreciate you keeping me honest as you as you always do. Matt. 312 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 1: Thank you. Okay. Also on the holiday movie tip, we 313 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: got a text here from Robin in the four one 314 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 1: two and it reads lundy Robin from the four one two. 315 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 1: My pick for a holiday movie. Okay, technically it isn't, 316 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: but in my mind it absolutely is is the wildly 317 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 1: underrated Kiss Kiss Bang Bang. I watch it every Christmas 318 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: season without fail. It's got Robert Downey Junior, it's got 319 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 1: Val Kilmer, It's got film noir attitude, sharp humor, a 320 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: strategic sprinkle of romance, and it provides exactly the level 321 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: of emotional warmth I need to function in December, Robin, 322 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 1: I one hundred percent agree. I love this film. Look 323 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: up idiot dictionary. You know you'll find a picture of me. No, 324 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: the definition of the word idiot, which you fucking are 325 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 1: great lines. I love this movie. Bell Kilmer as Gabe Perry. 326 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 1: What an incredible character name. And of course this was 327 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: written and directed by Shane Black, also in the underrated category. 328 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 1: He wrote the screenplay for the first Leath of Weapon movie, 329 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: and then he went on to write screenplays for The 330 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: Last Action Hero, The Last Boy Scout seeing the theme here, 331 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 1: and The Long Kiss good Night. So he's got the 332 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: funny action buddy movie on lock right. Then he goes 333 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: and he writes and directs this movie. And also after 334 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: this one, he did a movie called The Nice Guys 335 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 1: with Russell Crowe and Ryan Gosling, which Robin, I don't 336 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: know if you've seen this, it's probably as good as 337 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 1: Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang, definitely up there. But I recommend 338 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: those both of those to anybody listening here. If you 339 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: haven't seen them, check those out. And thanks Robin for 340 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 1: sending in that tip. All right over on Facebook which 341 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: I'm sorry to say I've been neglecting in the messaging 342 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: department for a while, so apologies. There. Few weeks back, 343 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: we got a message from Steven who just wrote in 344 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 1: Hollywood Land Lana Turner episode uh and then he quotes 345 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 1: the episode he sounded like a sinus infection with a grudge. 346 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: That's simply wonderful writing. Goodness. Well, thank you, Steven. I 347 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: don't remember writing that line, but I did write that episode, 348 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: so I know I wrote that line, but I really 349 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: appreciate the feedback. I'm glad that resonated. And for everyone 350 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 1: else here, listen, I'm here to talk whatever you want 351 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: to talk about. You want to talk about writing in 352 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: the episodes. You want to talk about dramatic moments in 353 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 1: the episodes. You want to talk about movies. You want 354 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 1: to talk about music in the movies. You want to 355 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: talk about your crime the movies. Whatever you got, give 356 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: it to me, right, remember, give me your favorite kidnapping 357 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 1: flicks two six, one seven nine six six, six three eight. 358 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 1: All right. I'm stoked to bring in my guy, Matt 359 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 1: Boden here. He's headed production at Double Elvis. I've known 360 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: him for most of my life and as I mentioned 361 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: at the top of the show, he's going to join 362 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: me to break down this first season of The Chair Company, 363 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 1: this rat show on HBO. We're calling it our Chair 364 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 1: Co Comvo, by the way. We're gonna do that in 365 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 1: just a moment right after this quick break. So stick around, 366 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 1: come on, go on, Welcome back to the Rap Parties. 367 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 1: Zeth Lundy here with you once again. And this is 368 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 1: the part of the show where I usually do recommendations. 369 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: I give you guys recommendations on things that I'm watching, 370 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: listening to, reading, and that sort of thing. This week, 371 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 1: I wanted to do something a little bit different because 372 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: this great HBO show, The Chair Company, just aired its finale, 373 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 1: its season finale this past weekend. And my buddy, my coworker, 374 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 1: Matt Boden, and I are both big fans of this show. 375 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: So I was like, Hey, Matt, why don't you come 376 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 1: on the Rap Party and you and I can kind 377 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: of like talk about this show, deconstruct it, whatever. So Matt, 378 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 1: what's happening. 379 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 2: Dude, Not too much, just excited to talk with you 380 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 2: about this insane show. It's an insane show. 381 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 1: So for those of you who don't know about this show, 382 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: this is the latest vehicle from Tim Robinson and his 383 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 1: creative partner Zach Cannon Canaan. I think it's canon, yeah, canon, Okay, 384 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 1: of course they're the guys behind I Think You Should Leave, 385 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: which is an incredible sketch comedy show on Netflix. Tim 386 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: Robinson was also recently in a movie called Friendship with 387 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: Paul Rudd, and he used to be a writer on 388 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: Siren Live. He brought a couple of stone cold classic 389 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: skits for that show, like the basketball skit, which is just. 390 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 2: When it came as well all time. 391 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: If you haven't seen the John Tesh NBA theme skit 392 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 1: on Saray Live, you just like pause this and go 393 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:49,120 Speaker 1: watch it. Anyways, So this show, Matt the Chair Company 394 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 1: is about this guy. Tim Robinson plays this guy I'm 395 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: blanking on his character's name, Ron Trosper Ron Trosper right, 396 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: and he works at this company, Fisher Robe. He's like 397 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: leading this new project to design this big new mall. 398 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: And in the first episode he gives this little speech 399 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: and he goes to sit on a chair in front 400 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: of the entire company, and the chair breaks and he 401 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: falls and has this embarrassing moment and then I mean, 402 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: maybe you can describe sort of like what happens from there. 403 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 2: He's rather rapidly begins to think that there's some kind 404 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 2: of nefarious plot with this chair company, as he starts 405 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 2: doing some research into it to try to let them 406 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 2: know that they have this defective chair that humiliated him, 407 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 2: and slowly he begins to uncover what seems to be 408 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 2: a conspiracy. He goes deeper and deeper into this maddening 409 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,120 Speaker 2: sense of conspiracy. Is that is that fair to say? 410 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's very fair to say. And I think from 411 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 1: the jump what I love about this show, and I 412 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 1: think this is the core I think of Tim Robinson's 413 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: humor in general, is that it's a moment of embarrassment 414 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: that sets off the entire arc of this show. He's 415 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 1: so embarrassed. It couldn't be it couldn't just be his fault. 416 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 1: He fell on the chair and like, had this impairs 417 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 1: Someone must be responsible for this, right, right? 418 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 2: Yeah? 419 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: And then when the answer isn't super clear, he keeps 420 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: on going down this rabbit hole, and then it becomes 421 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 1: about something that's not even about the chair, about the 422 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: incident anymore. It's something much much deeper. And what is it? 423 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 2: I don't even know what well. I think it's interesting 424 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 2: you say that it's much deeper, because I think it's 425 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 2: really easy to say that this is just a goofy 426 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 2: show that you know, people might say, oh, it's so 427 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 2: random or that sort of thing, but I actually do 428 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 2: think it's about much deeper things, and the show sort 429 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 2: of gets into that as well. With you know, Ron's identity. 430 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 2: It seems he has a history of maybe some mental 431 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 2: illness where he's had this kind of these sort of 432 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 2: obsessive problems before. And I think the show goes beyond 433 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 2: the comedy, which it is incredibly funny, oh yeah, and 434 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 2: gets into some deeper issues. 435 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: So to kind of piggyback off what you were saying, 436 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 1: you and I talked a lot of how how absurd 437 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 1: this show is, how it's it's really a show about absurdities, 438 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,439 Speaker 1: and it's really I think it's a it's a very 439 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: human thing to want to make sense out of something 440 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 1: like why did this happen? Or who's it fault? Or 441 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: you know what, what's what's at the core of this mystery? 442 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: And sometimes sometimes it's just like, well, shit happens, or 443 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: or life is absurd or whatever, and there's a moment 444 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: in the recap for the finale when they're showing you 445 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 1: and it's this very dramatic recap of all these dramatic 446 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: things that happen. I don't know if you caught this 447 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 1: in the In the middle of it, there was a 448 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: scene from like last week where he's like, wait, Wendy's 449 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: is coming out with a ham. His daughter's fiance is 450 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 1: like doing these photographs for this new Wendy's Ham. They 451 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: just drop that in the middle of all this dramatic 452 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,919 Speaker 1: shit that happen for me, Like that is the crux 453 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: of the show, you know what I mean. It's it's 454 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 1: so it's like has nothing to do with anything, but 455 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: they make it seem like it does. 456 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, yeah, you said absurd. I think the 457 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 2: show really really connects with the literary movement around absurdism. 458 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 2: I've been thinking a lot about the theater of the absurd. 459 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 2: A few weeks ago, you and I were talking about 460 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:09,120 Speaker 2: Ianesco's Rhinoceros play from nineteen fifty or something, the Absurdists. 461 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 2: We're into this idea that there's this conflict between our 462 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 2: search for meaning and the sort of apparent or inherent 463 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 2: meaninglessness of life or randomness or chaos, and I think 464 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 2: you nailed it. That's really what the show is about. 465 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 2: It's Ron trying to make sense of something that really 466 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 2: doesn't make sense. And I think what's really cool is 467 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 2: the way that the show plays with forms and conventions 468 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:44,400 Speaker 2: it really leans into, especially early on the paranoid seventies thrillers. 469 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,679 Speaker 2: The way it's using like zoom lenses. Totally, there's some 470 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 2: serious Michael Mann vibes in a couple episodes. 471 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: You know what it really reminded me of, Especially on 472 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: the last episode. I was thinking a lot about this 473 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: is it reminds me so much of Twin Peaks, Oh 474 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,360 Speaker 1: very much so. Yeah, and that David Lynch didn't care 475 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: about who killed Laura Palmer, not really right. He was 476 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 1: interested in the absurdities of life, just like this show 477 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:06,719 Speaker 1: is too. 478 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 2: I think, you know, yeah, I agree. And it's funny 479 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,679 Speaker 2: you mentioned Twin Peaks because I think that's kind of 480 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,120 Speaker 2: the er text of these kind of puzzle box shows 481 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 2: like Lost and things like that, where viewers get really 482 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 2: into trying to figure out what the mystery is. And 483 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 2: if you've looked at any of the online discourse around this. 484 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: Show, I have not. 485 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 2: It's worth it. It's really fun to see people trying 486 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 2: to pick apart the various clues and post theories and 487 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 2: things like that, where I love that. I don't think 488 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 2: the show is doing that at all. I mean, I 489 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,959 Speaker 2: think it's a kind of troll where we're we're kind 490 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 2: of using the brain we use when we watch mystery shows, 491 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 2: where we watch puzzle box shows, but we're confounded at 492 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 2: every turn, just like Ron is, he uncovers or he 493 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 2: thinks he's uncovered a solution and it turns out to 494 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 2: not be the case, and it just leads to something 495 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 2: even crazier. Totally know, like what was it? One episode ago, 496 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 2: we thought we had the answer to what the conspiracy was, 497 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 2: and we were like, okay, we know what it is, 498 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 2: and now what's going to happen? And then they blew 499 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 2: it all up in the last episode. 500 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: And there are so many questions that things that happened 501 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: in like the first or second episode, Like it was 502 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 1: the second episode where he goes and he finds what 503 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 1: he thinks is is the the the headquarters of this 504 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 1: company with the giant red ball in the room, and 505 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: those first episode actually the photocopies of like naked people 506 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: and like various sexual engagements on the photo, Like where 507 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 1: did that? That hasn't gone anywhere right. 508 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 2: Like, well, it did lead to what six episodes later, 509 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 2: him going in a really crazy scene to the pornos store. 510 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 2: Oh that's right, showing the guy screenshots of these photograph 511 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,679 Speaker 2: of this photographed pornography and saying something, this is a 512 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,400 Speaker 2: great example of another thing I wanted to talk about, 513 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 2: saying something like do you think this pornography, these pictures 514 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:02,360 Speaker 2: have anything to do with a corporate cone? I mean, 515 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:06,959 Speaker 2: just completely unhinged. There's so much of that in this show, 516 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,479 Speaker 2: which again to me, leads back to that theater of 517 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 2: the absurd thing, because when you read some of these 518 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 2: plays by Beckett or somebody like that, there's this kind 519 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 2: of uncanny way people have of speaking. It doesn't sound 520 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 2: really like people would normally talk. And that is all 521 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:27,880 Speaker 2: over this show. Like the guy who says I kind 522 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 2: of think I can wish things into the world. Now, 523 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 2: what a strange way of expressing that thought. Or let 524 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 2: me put the present in the place where the presents 525 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 2: are going. Yeah, yeah, I can't have you suspecting I'm 526 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 2: doing the jeep tours every time I want a cup 527 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:44,719 Speaker 2: of wine. 528 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 1: Oh a cup of wine. That was one of my favorites. Yeah, 529 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: it's like spoken by a guy who's like never had 530 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: wine before. Yeah, yeah, that strikes me. There's also this 531 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: like narcissistic streak too that I think runs through a 532 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 1: lot of his comedy, which is there in the premise 533 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: of him falling in the chair and being humiliated, you know. 534 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: And again, I'm sorry, it's hard to spoil this show 535 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: because it's just so batshit crazy and you never really 536 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: know where it's going to go. But if you haven't 537 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 1: seen the final episode and you you don't want anything spoiled, 538 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: like I guess, skip ahead a few minutes. But in 539 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: this final the season finale here he still is making 540 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: it all about himself, where he's like, I'm the one 541 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: who's falling on the sword so that your mom can 542 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: have her company because they're all behind this or whatever, 543 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: and so I'm not gonna do my thing anymore, like 544 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: I'm the hero, or like I found your dog, take 545 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: my picture, I'm the hero, you know what I mean. 546 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: It's just a huge narcissistic streak running through the show. 547 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, and particularly in that last episode where almost every 548 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 2: scene is him going right up to the line of 549 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 2: telling everybody what's happened to sort of a grandize himself 550 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 2: that he, you know, did this amazing thing. I think 551 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 2: that happens three or four times in the episode. 552 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. 553 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting. I find I'm curious what you think 554 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 2: about this, because you know you're a big Tim Robinson 555 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 2: fan as well. Like, I don't find Ron as insufferable 556 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 2: as other Tim Robinson characters, Like at his heart, I 557 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 2: think Ron is actually a pretty okay guy, and his 558 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 2: heart's in the right place. He does have that narcissistic streak, 559 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 2: but he doesn't have that He's not as instantly irritating 560 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 2: as other characters he plays. 561 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: I completely agree, and I wonder why that is. Even 562 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: his character in Friendship was far more irritating than this. Yeah. Yeah, 563 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 1: it's interesting. They've kind of like struck this sympathetic note 564 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: here with him, I guess. 565 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 2: So. 566 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: One of the things I love about Tim Robinson's world 567 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: is that you see these actors that you feel like 568 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: you've never seen before. I actually looked up the guy 569 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: who plays Mike in the show, and he's like a 570 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: legit actor who has numerous credits and real films or whatever. 571 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 1: But I swear to god, it's almost like he was 572 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: plucked from obscurity and dropped into this show. What was 573 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,479 Speaker 1: like a revelation for you or like, who are your favorites? 574 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 2: Well, certainly the guy who plays Mike, and I don't 575 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 2: have his name in front of me right now, and 576 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 2: we should say Mike is sort of becomes Ron's partnering crime. 577 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 2: He's sort of an early antagonist in the show, and 578 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 2: then he kind of becomes Ron's really very close friend 579 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 2: in a way. 580 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: Right. He's played by Joseph Todisco. 581 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 2: By the way, he has been a revelation. I mean, 582 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 2: he is incredible. But oh man, Yeah, I have a 583 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 2: list of actors who would maybe have one line or 584 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 2: one scene in the show, and they are incredible. I 585 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 2: don't know who the casting director is on this, yeah, 586 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 2: but I think my favorite would probably be Oliver Problo. 587 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 2: He's played by an actor named Alberto Isaac. His way 588 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 2: of speaking again, it's so uncanny. He has this very 589 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 2: unique way of speaking. He has this very unique look. 590 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 2: I would say him and you know, I looked him 591 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 2: up and he's been a working actor for fifty years. 592 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: That's so crazy. 593 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 2: There's examples that people have one line, very Tim Robinson, 594 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 2: I think you should leave moment. There's a scene where 595 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 2: someone throws up at a birthday party and this guy 596 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 2: decides the way to solve this problem is he picks 597 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 2: up the earthday cake platter and sets it on top 598 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 2: of the vomit and says, there no one has to 599 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 2: see it now, Like that's his only line. 600 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 1: Again, with the Lynch thing, it's almost like a dream, 601 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: like this is the kind of shit that happens in 602 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 1: your dreams that people don't actually do it relightly, but in. 603 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 2: A weird way. The more you watch the show, the 604 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 2: realer it starts to feel in a weird way. This show, 605 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 2: as surreal as it is, really captures for me what 606 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 2: it feels like to be alive in this moment, if 607 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 2: that makes any sense. 608 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: It does make sense, And it also feels like a 609 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: show for this moment where you can jump on the 610 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: Internet and come to your own conclusions on any kind 611 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: of mystery that you're trying to solve. You can be like, look, 612 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: these colors match these colors over here, and in that 613 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 1: way it's very very relevant. I think, just this absurd 614 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: universe that we find ourselves in these days so this 615 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: was renewed for a second season in a very uncharacteristic move. 616 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 1: I think it has to do more with maybe business 617 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 1: dealings are going on with companies trying to buy companies 618 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 1: and all that jazz right now. But HBO announced they 619 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: were renewing the series before the season even ended, which 620 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: they usually don't do, especially for a comedy. What are 621 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 1: your predictions? Where do you think where's the show going 622 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 1: to go? 623 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,479 Speaker 2: I can't predict where the show is going to go 624 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 2: from one minute to the next. There's nothing in this 625 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 2: show that I've really been able to predict. 626 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: Like that opening scene in the finale, I was like, 627 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 1: what the hell is happening? 628 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 2: Did that not feel very much like a breaking bad 629 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 2: episode where totally opens with this thing that's not even 630 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 2: connected and we're going to find out later how it's connected. 631 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 2: And we find out at the very end of the 632 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 2: episode how that was that scene was connected, but we 633 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 2: have no idea how or why. You know, certainly we 634 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 2: learned and again spoilers for the last episode, that Ron's 635 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 2: boss is somehow involved in this situation. But honestly, I 636 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 2: think the way the show is going to go is 637 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 2: it's going to continue doing what it's doing, which is 638 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 2: using this kind of nonsensical plot as a vehicle for 639 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 2: sketch comedy, because the show very much kind of moves 640 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 2: from sketch to sketch. And I think it's gonna be that. 641 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 2: And I think I think if you're watching the show 642 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 2: thinking you know, what's gonna be the answer, I think 643 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 2: you're gonna be disappointed. 644 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: Totally. 645 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 2: What do you think? 646 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 1: I think you're right on the money. You know, unless 647 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 1: HBO does what ABC did to David Lynch and says 648 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 1: we need to know the answer, right, that's how you're 649 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 1: gonna end your season. But I think you're totally right. 650 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: I think that's what's so exciting about this show is 651 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,319 Speaker 1: that we have no idea. I'm just looking forward to 652 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: a a cast of new character actors that I've never 653 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 1: seen before, and crazy line readings and and uh and 654 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 1: all that jazz. And I gotta say too, you were 655 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 1: right on the money about that opening scene in the 656 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,840 Speaker 1: In the finale, I swear they told that actor, like, 657 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 1: go watch James Gandalfini for a couple of hours and 658 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 1: then do James gandalfin his face. His expression is the 659 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 1: way he's listening to that guy. 660 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 2: It was made me miss James Gandalfini a lot. 661 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, totally, totally, Well, man, I really appreciate you jumping 662 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 1: on Mike here and uh talking about this this was 663 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 1: It was so much fun talking about it with you 664 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 1: on text back and forth every week that I just 665 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 1: I really wanted to talk to about it in person. 666 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 2: So now maybe when the show comes back, we can 667 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 2: do a little quick recap every week or something if 668 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 2: we continue to be obsessed by this show. And I 669 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 2: guess I would just say to the listeners too, if 670 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 2: you haven't seen it, it's really something that's more to 671 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,959 Speaker 2: be experienced, then you should just just check it out, 672 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 2: give it, give it a chance, because it's really an 673 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 2: incredible show. 674 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, agreed, and know that moment to moment, episode to 675 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: episode it's things are always gonna be changing and be different. 676 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 1: So yeah, well, I appreciate you, thanks for jumping on 677 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 1: here and everybody else hang tight, I will be right 678 00:35:38,120 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 1: back right after this. Well that was fun. Always a 679 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 1: good time to hang with Maddy Bee and talk about 680 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 1: funny and absurd shit, which I feel like has been 681 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 1: the topic of many of our conversations for the last 682 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 1: thirty something years or so. Hope you all enjoy getting 683 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 1: to listen in on one of those said conversations and 684 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 1: let me know if you dug it, and if you 685 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,320 Speaker 1: want us to do that more often. Matt and I 686 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 1: are always talking about something, so maybe we can make 687 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 1: it a recurring part of the show somehow to let 688 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,319 Speaker 1: me know what you think. Ladies and gents of Hollywood Land, 689 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,760 Speaker 1: It is that time again, time to bid you all adieux. 690 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 1: What's that cheap trick song? Off? We dezaing off, weazaing off, 691 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 1: we tozaing. It's another word better a cumberbatch. It's a 692 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 1: rough week, guys for pronunciations. All right, Just know that 693 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,320 Speaker 1: we'll be back next week, same Bat time, same BAT channel, 694 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,319 Speaker 1: only this time we'll be talking about John Waters. I 695 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 1: have well one of my most memorable introductions to a 696 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:03,280 Speaker 1: song from a John Waters film, speaking of the absurd, 697 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 1: Holy shit. But I will save that little nugget for 698 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 1: next week and I won't burn it here, and so 699 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 1: until then, until next week when we meet again, and 700 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 1: remember these five very important things. Number one available right 701 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 1: now in your Hollywood Land feed our episode on Benedict's 702 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 1: cumber Batch. Number two coming next week on Monday, Our 703 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,760 Speaker 1: episode on John Waters. Number three over in the feet 704 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 1: of our sister show, Disgraceland, our brand new part two 705 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 1: episode on Merle Haggard which involves Christmas Orgy's in cocaine 706 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 1: on a houseboat in northern California and a fight with 707 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 1: Graham Parsons. They'll not necessarily in that order to go 708 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 1: over there to check it out. You know you want 709 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 1: to Number four if you want more Merle Haggard, if 710 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:50,439 Speaker 1: you want bonus mini episodes of disgrace Land, plus add 711 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,239 Speaker 1: free listening right here in Hollywood Land, and perhaps you 712 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:54,720 Speaker 1: want to get in on that twenty four to seven 713 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 1: group chat action happening over on this little thing called Patreon. 714 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,359 Speaker 1: Make sure you go to disgrace Land pod dot com 715 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 1: to become an all access member. All the deats are there, 716 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,719 Speaker 1: as they say. Number five in honor of this week's episode, 717 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 1: me reading you the list of the top grossing films 718 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 1: of two thousand and four, the year that Benett Cumberbatch 719 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 1: was kidnapped in South Africa. Number one Shrek two, directed 720 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 1: by Andrew Adamson, Kelly Asberry and Conrad Vernon. Number two 721 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:31,319 Speaker 1: Spider Man two directed by Sam Raimi. The number three 722 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 1: they directed The Passion of the Christ directed by Mel Gibson. 723 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 1: The number four Harry Potter and The Prisoner of Azkaban 724 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 1: directed by Alfonso Coronis. Number five Speaking It's Incredibles being 725 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 1: directed by Brad Bird and directed in number six. Number 726 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 1: Now The Day After Tomorrow was directed Quit talking and 727 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 1: start mixing