WEBVTT - Marlene

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<v Speaker 1>A note to the listener. The following story contains some

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<v Speaker 1>adult content and language. Welcome back to the podcast. Full disclosure.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we get started, I want you to know that

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of ground to cover in this episode,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of history, and I promise it's all necessary, necessary,

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<v Speaker 1>because Marlene Marie Evans was a real person, not just

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<v Speaker 1>a body found in a parking lot. So I hope

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<v Speaker 1>you enjoy getting to know her as much as I did.

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<v Speaker 1>I already answered the detective's questions when they went through

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<v Speaker 1>all of the things. I'm just following up to see

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<v Speaker 1>if there's anything that cops may missed. They've pretty thorough.

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<v Speaker 1>Please Glass, Yeah, all right, but I gotta make it brief.

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<v Speaker 1>All I can tell you is what I know, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>She was a sweetheart, a bit of a neat freak,

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<v Speaker 1>always funcks him with her hair. When she first moved in.

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<v Speaker 1>She was a Shylottle brunette girl who loved ile of Lucy.

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<v Speaker 1>She would never miss a Monday Night. She got the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest kick out of the little cartoon Lucy and Daisy.

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<v Speaker 1>Before every episode you two together a line, No, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean day. She was at the doctor's office at the

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<v Speaker 1>jewelry counter bullocks. But you had to come home at

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<v Speaker 1>some point. You're telling me you didn't see your roommate

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<v Speaker 1>except for Monday's No, not really. Why is that she

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<v Speaker 1>spent a lot of time in her room. When I

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<v Speaker 1>asked her what she was always doing in there, she said,

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<v Speaker 1>reading plays and practicing addiction and stuff like that. Six

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<v Speaker 1>nights a week. Even Jane Mansfield took a night off

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<v Speaker 1>from diction. Look, I don't know what to tell you,

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<v Speaker 1>a buddy, glad don't look over there. There's no one

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<v Speaker 1>over there. Why aren't you telling me, Gladys, nothing looked

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<v Speaker 1>me in the eyes. Nothing looked me in the eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>And tell me that Marlene were part time at a

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<v Speaker 1>doctor's office during the day and was home every night

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<v Speaker 1>in her room, but you never saw each other. She

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want a parents to know what. She didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>her parents to know. Didn't want her parents to know what, Gladys.

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<v Speaker 1>She started working knights as a cocktail waitress where Cereos,

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<v Speaker 1>Cereals Jazz joined up on Sunset. Yeah, I know what

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<v Speaker 1>Cereos is. It's a pretty swank nightclub. She got it

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<v Speaker 1>in the head. Will someone got it in her head?

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<v Speaker 1>That if she started sling and drink, she'd have a

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<v Speaker 1>better chance of getting discovered by some real high role

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<v Speaker 1>is her words, not mine. I mean I told her

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<v Speaker 1>she'd have to go to Vegas for those. I think

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<v Speaker 1>she meant big wigs, as if some producer was going

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<v Speaker 1>to see this cocktail waitress as the next Marilyn Monroe

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<v Speaker 1>and put her on the cover of Life the next day.

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<v Speaker 1>And around one was that, I don't know a few

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<v Speaker 1>months before maybe do you ever mention any trouble there,

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<v Speaker 1>anyone she had any problems with? But, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>passing ships, which was fine, I was tired of hearing

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<v Speaker 1>all about Hollywood talk all the time. You may be

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<v Speaker 1>in the wrong town for that. I just part of

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<v Speaker 1>me felt bad for her. How do you mean? Look,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not trying to degrade this poor girl. God rest

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<v Speaker 1>the soul. I'm just pointing out she was pretty, but

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<v Speaker 1>nothing remarkable. And the way she went on and on

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<v Speaker 1>about what was filming and when she was going to

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<v Speaker 1>get a big break enough that the star was born nonsense.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm. I wish you would just have settled down

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<v Speaker 1>with it. A nice doctor that's real stability, not not

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<v Speaker 1>the one she worked with. Obviously, but when was the

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<v Speaker 1>last time you saw her? Two days before they found her,

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<v Speaker 1>my girlfriend, Sylvia was moving back to Michigan with her

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<v Speaker 1>fiance Berry, and stopped over to say goodbye before they

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<v Speaker 1>hit the road. After that, I went to work, and

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<v Speaker 1>I assumed that's where Marlene was going, because she said

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<v Speaker 1>she was working that evening She said she was working, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And the morning after that I had the early shift,

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<v Speaker 1>so I assume she was still in a room when

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<v Speaker 1>I left. Any of this helping. I'm not in trouble,

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<v Speaker 1>am I she she didn't want to parents tonight. No trouble.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for your help. Hey, how can we not

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<v Speaker 1>bringing any of this down? I got a photographic memory.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's it. You're real, sweetheart. Gladys. You're welcome from

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<v Speaker 1>Vot's Popula and the Los Angeles. Harold, this is the

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<v Speaker 1>Angel of fine ainking in no ground, because my Angels.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a small town in southern Idaho between the Snake

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<v Speaker 1>River and the Albion Mountains with no noticeable connection to Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 1>A sign on the edge of town reads Burley, a

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<v Speaker 1>great place to live. The population of Burley has hovered

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<v Speaker 1>around ten thousand for many years now, but back in

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<v Speaker 1>the fifties it was just over half of that Interstate

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<v Speaker 1>eighty four had yet to be built, so the highway

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<v Speaker 1>ran right through main Street, making Burley quite the thoroughfare

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<v Speaker 1>for travelers needing rest. On a stretch equivalent to two

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<v Speaker 1>city blocks, you had your choice of four restaurants, the

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<v Speaker 1>Oregon Trail Cafe, Boyd's, Nelson's, or the Sportsman's Cafe. There

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<v Speaker 1>was the National Hotel, in Bank, the Idaho Bank and Trust,

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<v Speaker 1>right across the street, a thrift way drug store, a Texico,

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<v Speaker 1>and at the center of it all the Burly Theater,

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<v Speaker 1>an old vaudeville house built in seventeen and later converted

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<v Speaker 1>to accommodate a screen and projector. There was a perfect

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<v Speaker 1>little town that wrapped most evenings up by nine o'clock

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<v Speaker 1>seven o'clock on Sundays. But if you had grandiose fantasies

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<v Speaker 1>of fame and fortune, or desired the kind of glamours

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<v Speaker 1>shown on the silver screen, Burley might not keep you

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<v Speaker 1>as entertained as it did the majority of its residence.

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<v Speaker 1>So as soon as Marlene Marie Nudson was old enough,

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<v Speaker 1>she bought a one way bus ticket out of her

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<v Speaker 1>bustling hometown. She headed to Hollywood, California, to make her

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<v Speaker 1>dreams come true as Marlene Marie Evans and while you

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<v Speaker 1>can take the Girl out of Burley. When the detective

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<v Speaker 1>searched Marlene's apartment, what they found stuck in the mirror

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<v Speaker 1>of her vanity was a photograph of a sea of

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<v Speaker 1>people outside of her hometown theater. The caption read in

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<v Speaker 1>celebration of Shirley Temple's birthday circa nineteen thirty six. Perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>she dreamt that one day all those people would be

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<v Speaker 1>standing on Main Street celebrating her. There's only one way

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<v Speaker 1>to keep warm, stripped down to your painting suit, that is,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're a girl. Our first story takes us to Idaho.

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<v Speaker 1>Who we are fifty beautiful girls up for the title

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<v Speaker 1>of Miss flash Bull. Let's see what develops in this

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<v Speaker 1>photographer's holiday. Here are the ten best. Marlene was one

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<v Speaker 1>of the ten finalists for Miss Flashbulb. She won a

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<v Speaker 1>very small trophy, but hey, a trophy is a trophy, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I've never won a trophy and she got to keep

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<v Speaker 1>the Catalina swimsuits she wore during the pageant that was

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<v Speaker 1>the only contest entry of hers that I could find,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's certainly not because there were a shortage of

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<v Speaker 1>them in Boca Raton, Florida, a bevy of beauties out

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<v Speaker 1>for the title of Miss Bicycle of nineteen fifty two,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the snappiest titles of the century. Later that summer,

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<v Speaker 1>the very first Miss Universe took place in Long Beach, California.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know whether or not the excitement of that

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<v Speaker 1>event played a role in her decision making process, but

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<v Speaker 1>the following year, Marlene headed west. I found this clip

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<v Speaker 1>at u c l A's Film and television archive, but

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<v Speaker 1>at this point it's got to be somewhere on the

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<v Speaker 1>internet before we carry on with a program. How about

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<v Speaker 1>some Harrington? Why yes, I love some Harrington. There really

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<v Speaker 1>is more flavor and every spiritful. And remember, with Father's

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<v Speaker 1>Day just around the corner, wouldn't it be nice to

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<v Speaker 1>surprise Dad this Sunday morning with a cup of rich,

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<v Speaker 1>smooth Harrington instant coffee. That was Marlene's first professional acting gig,

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<v Speaker 1>a live sponsor ad during the Dewey Bowers Review Hour.

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<v Speaker 1>She turns to camera during the jingle, lift the cup

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<v Speaker 1>to her mouth and then with eyes and a smile

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<v Speaker 1>as wide as the lens. She delivers her line. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure it's a little cheesy, but it was the nine fifties,

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<v Speaker 1>the era of ah Chucks and Gee Whizz. And what

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<v Speaker 1>you notice about Marlene immediately was that she wasn't the

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<v Speaker 1>girl next door type. She was very simply put a

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<v Speaker 1>girl from next door, not play by any strap, but

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<v Speaker 1>definitely more of a Merry Anne than a Ginger and

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<v Speaker 1>she was a perfect fit. This clip was dug up

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<v Speaker 1>by the press from the vaults of Classic Pictures shortly

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<v Speaker 1>after Marlene's death. It's her screen test for a small

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<v Speaker 1>role in the nture Aimless Lute and Bally. Who can

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<v Speaker 1>you take a few steps forward for me? Um without

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<v Speaker 1>your hand in your pockets? Right there? Okay, fell us?

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<v Speaker 1>Your name and are you're reading for? My name is

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<v Speaker 1>Marley Marie Evans. I'm five ft six and I'm reading

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<v Speaker 1>for the role of Lady Babcock. And where are you from?

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<v Speaker 1>Marley Early? I'd hill tell me one thing you love

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<v Speaker 1>about Early? Oh there are so many things. Just one

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<v Speaker 1>is fun? Okay. Well, my my mother she used to

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<v Speaker 1>take me to Nelson's, her friend, and Net was the

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<v Speaker 1>piano player in the lounge. There we used to sit

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<v Speaker 1>and listen to ant A Gershwin for what seemed like ours.

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<v Speaker 1>It's wonderful was my mother's favorite? Was that enough? Perfect?

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<v Speaker 1>Whenever you're ready, Pardons to start the scene. Oh, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so sorry. I couldn't believe his character. I couldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't believe his behavior. Yes, dear, I thought that

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<v Speaker 1>it was absolutely dreadful, Yes, dear dreadful. Charles. Are you

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<v Speaker 1>listening to a word I'm saying? I don't understand why

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<v Speaker 1>we make the drive out here every summer? Great? Please

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts your name again? Marlene Marie Evans. Marlene didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>the role in Vali Who, but she did land her

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<v Speaker 1>first on screen role in another of classics movies called

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<v Speaker 1>Broadway Tangle. She has two lines as a department store

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<v Speaker 1>sales girl regarding the price of a child's kaleidoscope, opposite

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<v Speaker 1>the film's lead Geane Hagen. Now I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 1>go into the entirety of Marlene's resume here. I'm simply

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<v Speaker 1>trying to paint a picture for you. So many Hollywood

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<v Speaker 1>hopeful as actors and actresses arrived every day by the

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<v Speaker 1>bus load, literally to make their mark to this day.

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<v Speaker 1>They still do, but where so few actually make it.

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<v Speaker 1>Marlene was already working. I'm not saying that from a

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<v Speaker 1>few lines in a commercial and two speaking lines in

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<v Speaker 1>a little known romantic comedy. Marlene was destined for stardom,

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<v Speaker 1>but she was working. She was doing exactly what she

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<v Speaker 1>came to Hollywood to do, and at the very least,

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<v Speaker 1>she had a promising future one cut tragically short. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just crazy to think that she would have does. She'd

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<v Speaker 1>be all but forgotten if not for your grandfather. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we hope, yeah, hopefully. Yeah. I have a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>listening to do. This bottle of blue label was extremely

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<v Speaker 1>generous of you. No, no, no, not at all. I please,

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<v Speaker 1>I was I was taught to never show up anywhere

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<v Speaker 1>empty handed. Thank you. No, I didn't. I didn't mean

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<v Speaker 1>yet open it now, I not. I think it's the

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<v Speaker 1>perfect way to mark the moment. I'm not gonna argue

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<v Speaker 1>with you. Thanks. So, do you have any early memories

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<v Speaker 1>of your family? Good ones? No, they don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>be No, No I do. Uh. He used to read

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<v Speaker 1>me three little kittens, remember that? Oh the candy dish

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<v Speaker 1>so in between the club chairs, which I wasn't supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to touch. But come on, who leaves an unattended candy

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<v Speaker 1>dish in a house with kids? That was my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>thing about visiting Gigi. See, I clearly remember the recorder.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh interesting. So so he didn't buy them any phone

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<v Speaker 1>once he became a private investigator. Oh no, he always

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<v Speaker 1>had it. I remember pressing the buttons and speaking into it,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he would play it back, and I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was funny that my voice was coming out of it.

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<v Speaker 1>And sometimes I'd see him talking into it, and I'd

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<v Speaker 1>sit in one of the club chairs across the room

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<v Speaker 1>and listen. Oh god, those club chairs were the ugliest color,

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<v Speaker 1>color of puke. Oh they'd be worth a fortune. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>G was ahead of our time. He used to record himself.

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<v Speaker 1>He had his wingback leather chair in the corner on

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<v Speaker 1>the front room where he'd sit when he read the paper.

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<v Speaker 1>These rituals of Hanks were some of my favorite moments

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<v Speaker 1>on his tapes. As I began listening, I expected to

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<v Speaker 1>hear this. I don't know, Sam Spade, Humphrey Bogart type

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<v Speaker 1>serves me right for watching too many movies. Instead, though,

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<v Speaker 1>I found a cop who loved to read poetry. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're up against the bruiser and you're getting knocked about.

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<v Speaker 1>Grin if you're feeling pretty groggy and your lick beyond

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<v Speaker 1>a doubt. Rn. I remember his police uniform. The squad

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<v Speaker 1>car was a big deal. Anytime the squad car showed up,

0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:13.079
<v Speaker 1>it was like Christmas. He would surprise us during a

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<v Speaker 1>shift and he would put me in the driver's seat

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<v Speaker 1>and put his hat on my head and let me

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<v Speaker 1>turn on the lights. Don't let him see your funking.

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<v Speaker 1>Let him know with every clout, though your face is

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<v Speaker 1>battered to a pulpe, your blooming heart is stout. Just

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<v Speaker 1>stand upon your pins until the beggar knocks you out

0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:38.040
<v Speaker 1>and grin. But most of what I know about him

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<v Speaker 1>is from my mother. Such as he loved being a cop.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing made him happier. He would have done it for free.

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<v Speaker 1>It was all he used to talk about. But but, but,

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<v Speaker 1>and as happy as it would make him. She was

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<v Speaker 1>never happy about the fact that he was a cop.

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<v Speaker 1>I shouldn't say never happy, but it clearly didn't help

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<v Speaker 1>their marriage. M Was it the hours and the danger. No,

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<v Speaker 1>not the danger, not on the job anyway, and that

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<v Speaker 1>was the fifties. The danger was that he would have

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<v Speaker 1>won too many with the boys after work, stay out

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<v Speaker 1>all night, hitting on the girls in dispatch. She was

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<v Speaker 1>a mother of two. That was enough stress on its own,

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<v Speaker 1>and it only got worse when he started his own agency.

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<v Speaker 1>No red tape, no partner, no set hours, no one

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<v Speaker 1>to answer to about that. Um. How much do you

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<v Speaker 1>know about the circumstances that led to him leaving the

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<v Speaker 1>l a p D. I know some, but this is

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<v Speaker 1>more her department. I found all of the newspaper clippings

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<v Speaker 1>he kept. Wow, So this is what the papers said.

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<v Speaker 1>And there are a couple of names to remember to

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<v Speaker 1>understand exactly what went down. First, the Honorable Benton Francis Hughes.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a judge in the Los Angeles Superior Court

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<v Speaker 1>at the time Hank was on the police force. The

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<v Speaker 1>other is Benton's son, Forrest Hughes. Forrest was attending Dartmouth

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<v Speaker 1>majoring in finance with a minor in Russian, probably two

0:16:15.280 --> 0:16:19.120
<v Speaker 1>hits off his father. Anyway, the the short of it is,

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<v Speaker 1>Forrest was home for a break during the summer. Hank

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<v Speaker 1>comes across a drunken forest one night while he's off

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<v Speaker 1>duty outside the King Eddie Saloon. Apparently he'd beat the

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<v Speaker 1>crap out of Forest, broke his jaw, fractured his eye

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<v Speaker 1>socket for no apparent reason. Right, But mom, Hank's best friend, Ed,

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<v Speaker 1>a fellow cop, was with Hank that night, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>not in the paper. No, it's not. They said Hank

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<v Speaker 1>acted alone. My mother said, my father swore that he

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<v Speaker 1>and Ed saved a girl that night. He and Ed

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<v Speaker 1>came out of the ball are and took the alley.

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<v Speaker 1>They heard a struggle and found this guy trying to

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<v Speaker 1>force himself on a young woman. But there's also no

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<v Speaker 1>mention of a girl anywhere in the clippings. Just off

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<v Speaker 1>duty cop assaults judge's son and no word. Nope. A

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<v Speaker 1>little background on ed Hess. At that time, Ed was

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<v Speaker 1>one of less than sixty black officers in the l A.

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<v Speaker 1>P D. It's no question that he faced racism, both

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<v Speaker 1>from those he did his best to protect and serve

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<v Speaker 1>and also under a police chief who at that time

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<v Speaker 1>made certain that any officer of color faced almost impossible

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<v Speaker 1>odds when it came to being promoted. While he's not

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<v Speaker 1>in the report from the following tape, I do know

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<v Speaker 1>that Ed was there that night, and my best guess

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<v Speaker 1>is that if Ed was in an off duty altercation.

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<v Speaker 1>It would have been exponentially worse for him than for Hank.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. This is a big help. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>know exactly who I'm dealing with here. The last thing

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<v Speaker 1>I need is to track this guy down to find

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<v Speaker 1>out he's a gun runner for the mob. No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>there's nothing like that on his rap sheet. In a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of beanies talking us orderly, and you got to

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<v Speaker 1>get along the way. Hey, you know something? You got

0:18:04.520 --> 0:18:09.560
<v Speaker 1>funnier money, still breathing down your neck? Hell, I wish

0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:12.959
<v Speaker 1>How do you mean there's nobody around me? I had

0:18:13.000 --> 0:18:15.639
<v Speaker 1>four walls and in box and a filing cabinet. It

0:18:15.720 --> 0:18:19.119
<v Speaker 1>sounds like my office. You got windows, of course they

0:18:19.160 --> 0:18:25.720
<v Speaker 1>have windows. And then it's not like your office. And

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<v Speaker 1>he luck with the girl nothing, she's a ghost. Damn

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<v Speaker 1>should have stayed. What are you gonna do? Walker bruised

0:18:34.560 --> 0:18:36.639
<v Speaker 1>white girl into my hospital. I had my back and

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<v Speaker 1>two whiskeys. I had no problem inmitting my part in it.

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<v Speaker 1>It wouldn't have changed the thing. Still a judge's kid,

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<v Speaker 1>Still a judge's kid. Hell. He wasn't even at the

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<v Speaker 1>station long enough to make a damn phone call. A

0:18:51.320 --> 0:18:57.400
<v Speaker 1>little ship you know death duties bad. The only time

0:18:57.400 --> 0:19:00.159
<v Speaker 1>outside has been with you. I could always use the

0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:02.760
<v Speaker 1>company on a steak out if you missed me so much, sweetheart,

0:19:03.640 --> 0:19:08.040
<v Speaker 1>No thanks, I need my pension. Damn. I'm sorry. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>He relax, and I know you didn't mean nothing by it.

0:19:13.920 --> 0:19:16.439
<v Speaker 1>But I'll tell you what. Give me that apology again,

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<v Speaker 1>but this time louder. For the record. I don't understand

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<v Speaker 1>why you can't just write it down like the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of us. That you can't write down the background noise

0:19:27.160 --> 0:19:29.560
<v Speaker 1>of the way a person stutters or pauses, and you

0:19:29.600 --> 0:19:32.680
<v Speaker 1>can't write down how somebody sounds like a liar. Why

0:19:32.760 --> 0:19:36.200
<v Speaker 1>would I lie to you? Not you? It's just easier

0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:39.840
<v Speaker 1>for me. Yet I can't explain it. Yeah, because you

0:19:39.920 --> 0:19:42.680
<v Speaker 1>made a life of ship. What if I just really

0:19:42.720 --> 0:19:46.800
<v Speaker 1>love the sound of your beautiful voice and just stupid.

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<v Speaker 1>After I finished my first visit with Beth and Phillis

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<v Speaker 1>and returned to Los Angeles, I went to one of

0:19:54.240 --> 0:19:55.920
<v Speaker 1>the herald sources of the L A. T. D. To

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<v Speaker 1>see if they could find anything regarding Hank's dismissal with

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<v Speaker 1>the pulled was his personnel file. As it turns out,

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<v Speaker 1>Hank Briggs wasn't fired. Hank Briggs chose to resign from

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<v Speaker 1>the l a p D instead of putting his future

0:20:09.520 --> 0:20:12.960
<v Speaker 1>in the hands of a disciplinary committee of speers. Had

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<v Speaker 1>they decided to remove him from the force, and let's

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<v Speaker 1>be honest, there was a Superior Court judge hanging over

0:20:18.480 --> 0:20:21.960
<v Speaker 1>this whole thing, he would have been fired. Had that happened,

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<v Speaker 1>Hank would have lost his ability to be a licensed

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<v Speaker 1>private detective. So by resigning, he basically took a plea

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<v Speaker 1>deal that allowed him to keep doing what he loved.

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<v Speaker 1>He had this artist c for camera. I never even

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<v Speaker 1>heard of Argus before, but apparently it was affordable and

0:20:37.280 --> 0:20:41.080
<v Speaker 1>had a quick learning curve. This was his business card,

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<v Speaker 1>serving Los Angeles in strict Confidence, which he later changed

0:20:47.240 --> 0:20:51.240
<v Speaker 1>to serving Hollywood in strict confidence. He kept clippings of

0:20:51.320 --> 0:20:56.600
<v Speaker 1>certain cases. There's corporate embezzlement, one about an exoneration involving

0:20:56.600 --> 0:21:00.080
<v Speaker 1>a witness. The prosecution was hiding drugs being dealta a

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<v Speaker 1>studio A lot. I mean, all all these cases, but

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<v Speaker 1>he's not mentioned in any of them. Ah, but that

0:21:07.200 --> 0:21:10.280
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't exactly have been serving in strict confidence. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>never mind. I answered my own question. So the Briggs

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<v Speaker 1>Detective Agency was born, and Hank Briggs wasn't a company more.

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<v Speaker 1>And because he was no longer a cop, there was

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<v Speaker 1>an entire world of information and new methods of collecting

0:21:24.760 --> 0:21:29.000
<v Speaker 1>that information now available to him, especially in some of

0:21:29.000 --> 0:21:32.600
<v Speaker 1>the cedier areas of Los Angeles is underbelly where even

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<v Speaker 1>a reliable informant never told the police everything they knew.

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<v Speaker 1>And let's not forget that Hank also had ed offering

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<v Speaker 1>him help when he was able to. It would seem

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<v Speaker 1>that it was the best of both worlds. Really, except

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<v Speaker 1>for one detail. Hank wasn't a company. Moore m artists

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<v Speaker 1>It okay, this is the document the maiden voyage of

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<v Speaker 1>the s. S. Briggs makes. She float m There's nothing

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<v Speaker 1>gained by whining, and you're not that kind of stuff.

0:22:23.960 --> 0:22:26.920
<v Speaker 1>You're a fighter from a way back, and you won't

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<v Speaker 1>take a rebuff. Your trouble is that you don't know

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<v Speaker 1>when you have had enough, don't give in. If fates

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<v Speaker 1>you down, you just get up and take another cuff.

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