1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast 2 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: Day and Paranormal Podcast Network. Now get ready for another 3 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 1: episode of Dark Becomes Light with Heidi Hollis. The thoughts 4 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: and opinions expressed by the host our thoughts and opinions only, 5 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: and do not necessarily reflect those of I Heart Media, 6 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:20,319 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio, Coast to Coast a out, employees of 7 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: premier networks or their sponsors and associates. You are encouraged 8 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: to do the proper amount of research yourself, depending on 9 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 1: the subject matter and your needs. You are listening to 10 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: Dark Becomes Light with Me, Heidi Hollis on the I 11 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: Heart Radio and Coast to Coast and paranam Podcast Network. 12 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: Welcome to my show. Remember each week I welcome you 13 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,559 Speaker 1: the listener to send in your personal experiences to gain 14 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: some insight on everything from angels to aliens and of 15 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: course my specialty of shadow people and hat man. I 16 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: am that person who first named and defined both phenomena 17 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:22,839 Speaker 1: and I have received thousands of stories over the years 18 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: where I feel very grateful and humbled that I've been 19 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: able to give any insights on these very peculiar topics. 20 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: And let me tell you it wasn't easy to be 21 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: the first to be speaking of such a thing and 22 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: uh introducing something the world had never quite heard of, 23 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: and the challenges that came with that were wide. But 24 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: eventually the world caught on and now we sit in 25 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: the reality of knowing that these things are real. Did 26 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: you know the first time that I started speaking on 27 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:04,919 Speaker 1: these things, I knew that at some point it would 28 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: be so widely experienced that it would be overwhelming for most. 29 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: But when I started speaking on it, the strangest thing happened. 30 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 1: People started acknowledging these things were going on in their lives, 31 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 1: and I was absolutely floored and shocked, absolutely, And then 32 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 1: to also learn that people felt this presence having gone 33 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: on in their lives for forty years sometimes absolutely stunning 34 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: and amazing to myself. I originally wrote my book on 35 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: the topic, and I circulated it among other authors who 36 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: were the only ones that really published anything out of 37 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:55,679 Speaker 1: the ordinary, like ghostly things, alien things. So it got 38 00:02:55,720 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: widespread among this select few, and I know that there 39 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: was chatter among others to try to figure out, what 40 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: is she talking about? It happened, and yeah, sometimes people 41 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 1: talk about the manuscript they've got sitting there and little 42 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: chatter came and went on the topic of shadow people 43 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: before I got the chance to get the book out there, 44 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 1: but I finally did, and now the rest is history. 45 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 1: It has been quite a ride, and I am absolutely, 46 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: just again very humbled to be in the position that 47 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: I am, to be the first person to have ever defined, named, 48 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: and now even trademarked to paranormal realities. It has been 49 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: something else. And again I am here to try to 50 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: help you gets understand that though these topics are very dark, 51 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: we can bring them into the light. We can see 52 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: positivity come through. In the end. We don't have to 53 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: sit alone. We don't have to ponder why is this 54 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: going on? You can reach out to somebody like myself. 55 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: So I welcome you to go to my main website, 56 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:21,359 Speaker 1: which is Heidi Hollis dot com, h E I D 57 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: I H O L L I S dot com and 58 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: send me as much detail as you would like about 59 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 1: whatever it is that you have experienced out of the ordinary. 60 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: And I'm learning, just like everybody else, people are very 61 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: picky with their choices of words when it comes to 62 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: the paranormal to say, oh, don't say expert. Well, I'm 63 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: gonna say I'm the expert because I did put those 64 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 1: two topics out there, so that's where I stand with it. 65 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 1: But with everything else, I am still learning and growing, 66 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 1: and I am still learning and growing when it comes 67 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 1: to shadow people and hat Man as well. This is 68 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: us the way life is. We all contribute to the puzzle. 69 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 1: We put our pieces in there, and we try to 70 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: paint a picture. We are all trying to do our best. 71 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: And if you come from a good place, that's automatically known, 72 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: isn't it so again, go to Heidi Hollis dot com. 73 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: Put as much detail as you'd like about whatever it 74 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: is that you've experienced, and let's get there. Let's rise 75 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 1: to the occasion, let's leave ego aside, and let's just 76 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 1: do this thing, okay. On my website, you'll find that 77 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: I have a lot of different things on there, from 78 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 1: books to articles and links to my other websites. I 79 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 1: cover the gambit in hopes of hitting the right spot 80 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 1: for everybody to try to come to the understanding the 81 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: type of situation we're in. When it comes to dealing 82 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: with the very different and strange presences on this planet. 83 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:00,679 Speaker 1: There are methods, there are patterns, and there are ways 84 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: to get over and through these things. And again together, 85 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: hand in hand, let's do this, okay. And you know, 86 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: I have to say I have been really really impressed 87 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 1: with the turnout of people writing in, so thank you 88 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: so much. Once again and again let's mix it up. 89 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: I get so much about the darker topics. I do 90 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: cover these lighter topics quite a bit, and it's one 91 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: of the reasons why I try to highlight on this 92 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 1: show that having the faith that you need to be 93 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 1: able to get through these things it is very important. 94 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 1: There's no way I'm going to acknowledge the darkness without 95 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: talking about the lights. So yes, I'm Christian. I talk 96 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: about it on every show. The topic of Jesus, the 97 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: topic of angelic presences, it's all very important when I'm 98 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: speaking of demons and the devil visiting people, because that's 99 00:06:56,440 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 1: where this all leads. And again, shedding some light, bringing 100 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 1: the dark into the light is what this show is about. 101 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: So I want to get to some of your emails 102 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: that have been sent into me, and again I appreciate it. 103 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: And this first one comes from Joel or Joel, and 104 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: it starts off with dear hiding. I'm sure you have 105 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: a thousand emails to reply to, but I thought i'd 106 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: get in contact with you, and nevertheless, well, thank you. 107 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: I appreciate that I will eventually get to everybody's emails 108 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: so far. I wanted to tell you about my story 109 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: after surfing the web and hearing about you and your podcast. 110 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: I am twenty nine years old. However, my first and 111 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: only experience of the hat Man happened when I was 112 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: around eighteen years old. The experience happened as a dream 113 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: which started out with serenity. There was a horizon with 114 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: a beautiful, a red and orange sky behind it, and 115 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: on the horizon, in the far far distance, stood a 116 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: tiny figure in black, and he began to get closer 117 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: and closer. As he drew closer, I could make out 118 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: his shape more and more. The figure was quite tall. 119 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: He had no facial features, but he was just a 120 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: silhouette of black mass, and he wore a hat much 121 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: like the old time, like New York Detective's type of hat. 122 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 1: He was in what seemed to be a long draping 123 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: garment as well. He drew closer to me, still not 124 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: walking towards me, but almost as if the horizon was 125 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: drawing closer to me or me floating towards him. To 126 00:08:56,400 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: help you better understand my visualization of the dream, take 127 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: your hand and extend your arm out as far away 128 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: as you can, and then slowly bring it towards your eyes. 129 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: This was his movement towards me. It was like a 130 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: strong pull. I could not stop. As he approached, he 131 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 1: became larger, and his presence just more and more sinister. 132 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: He finally got so close that all I could see 133 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: was a black mass, and it engulfed me. His energy 134 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: was unequivocally negative. At that point, I remember waking up, 135 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: and this was the first time I experienced sleep paralysis. 136 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: I literally could not move. The room seemed darker than usual, 137 00:09:55,880 --> 00:10:01,559 Speaker 1: and inside my spirit I was experiencing a falling sensation, 138 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: like being on a fast theme park ride or roller coaster. 139 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: My bedroom also felt a little cold, and I vividly 140 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: remember being shaken up. Actually, I was so shaken up that, 141 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: even at eighteen years old, I had to sleep in 142 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: my parents bedroom on the spare sofa. Typically of me. 143 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 1: I didn't even explain the ordeal to my parents and 144 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: just went in and went to sleep. The next day 145 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: at school, I did tell some of my classmates because 146 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: I could not rest mentally. After the experience, a teacher 147 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 1: weirdly overheard my story and told me that I should 148 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: go to church because what I described, which was, to 149 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: be honest, just a very short version of what happened, 150 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: that they didn't think it sounded right. Unfortunately, I did 151 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: not trust her spiritual judgment at the time because I 152 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:15,679 Speaker 1: didn't respect her much as a teacher. I asked some 153 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: friends and they said they had heard of this thing 154 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: called sleep paralysis, and it is called r e M. 155 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: I left it at that and carried on with my life. 156 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: But fast forward ten or eleven years, and a lot 157 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: has happened to me since then. A lot of highs 158 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: and also some lows, but all in all, I've always 159 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 1: felt like I've had this monkey on my back. Thank 160 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: God for the Internet because it's enabled me to reach 161 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: out to people who have experienced similar things. Honestly, I 162 00:11:56,000 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: didn't expect anyone to have experienced anything even remotely similar 163 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: to my story. I'm not sure why I had gotten contact, 164 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 1: but hopefully this story may be of use to you, 165 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 1: and I am hopeful that you are able to enlighten 166 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: me further on anything in any possible way. Oh my goodness, 167 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: I just clicked hat man on your website, Heidi Hollis 168 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: dot com, and the cover of your book is exactly 169 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: what I saw in the dream, the orange clouds, the colors, everything, 170 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 1: and they signed this anonymously, so you guys were gonna 171 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: go into more depth about what we just went over here. 172 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: You are listening to Dark Becomes Light with me Heidi 173 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: Hollis on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast 174 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: a Paranormal podcast network, and we will be right back. 175 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: We're happy to let you know that Ourst to Coast 176 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:04,559 Speaker 1: am official YouTube channel has now reached three hundred thousand subscribers. 177 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: You can listen to the first hour of recent and 178 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: past shows all for free, so head on over to 179 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 1: Coast to Coast a M dot com and hit the 180 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: YouTube icon at the top of the page. 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Just before the break, 198 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: I had a very fascinating email that was sent to 199 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: me anonymously about a very peculiar dream state that began 200 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: as something very serene, only to see hat Man coming closer, 201 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: almost as if to be pulled directly in front of 202 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: the person. And the scenery was very unique in that 203 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: they saw orange ish read clouds in the horizon and 204 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: just suddenly was engulfed in the darkness of hat Man. 205 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: The person described hat Man as having an old fashioned 206 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: New York detective type of hat and a draping type 207 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: of gown. And how this sinister presence absolutely overcame them. 208 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: When they woke up, they realized they couldn't move, that 209 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: it was outright sleep paralysis, as well as something there 210 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: high school friends had told them, and their high school 211 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: teacher said you should go to church. This is not right. Wow, 212 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: well the teacher was onto something. But of course, as 213 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: a teenager who listens to that, right, I understand a 214 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: lot of people when they're met with something like this, 215 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: it really shakes them up. And those were the exact 216 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: words of this person. And being an eighteen year old 217 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: old and knowing that whatever took place, it wasn't natural, 218 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: and it wasn't anything you wanted to invite to happen again, 219 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: you ran into your parents bedroom and slept on the sofa. 220 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: I get it. What you described as a pulling sensation 221 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: is something I have heard described a lot and a 222 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: lot of different scenarios. And the way that you described 223 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: it like having your hand extended and just having it 224 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: zip up to your face. If you can all just 225 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: imagine something moving unnaturally like that to you. And a 226 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: lot of people say, oh, it's just a nightmare, it's 227 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: just a dream. Well, why did dreams like this type 228 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: of thing stick with us for a lifetime. This was 229 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: ten years ago, and it still disturbs this person to 230 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: the point that they reached out finally online and found 231 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: other people who have experienced this. Just incredible, absolutely so 232 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: I understand what you're talking about. And unfortunately, again this 233 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 1: is something that others have experienced. And then to wake 234 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: from the so called dream and being unable to move 235 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 1: that sense chills, absolutely chills, And I get it. People 236 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 1: like to tuck it into this definition of something called 237 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: sleep paralysis, which is something that a lot of sleep 238 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: specialists will just term for everybody. But wow, is there 239 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 1: an explosion of this going on in the world or what? 240 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: How do you explain that away? What's going on here? 241 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:38,199 Speaker 1: You know? Sometimes I think it would be cool to 242 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 1: get to the bottom of that. Statistically speaking, if these 243 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 1: sleep specialists are suddenly see an explosion of sleep paralysis, 244 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: I'll put that one in the next book. Oh my gosh, 245 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 1: we'll see if they'd be honest about it. First off, 246 00:17:55,400 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: because none of these people who consider themselves within scientific 247 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: world are really how can I say, anxious to be 248 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,959 Speaker 1: thrown into the paranormal arena. They feel there is an 249 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 1: explanation for everything, and they surely would not want their 250 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 1: name tacked to something like this. But I'll say this, 251 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: any of you sleep specialists out there want to say 252 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 1: they've seen an explosion of those people who come into 253 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 1: their office complaining of quote unquote sleep paralysis. Oh please 254 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 1: do write me please, or any of you that are listening, 255 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: have your doctor explained to them if they've seen an 256 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: explosion in this topic, because I guarantee you it's going 257 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 1: on now. Then to finish up what you're saying now, 258 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 1: even at the ripe old age of eighteen, I wish 259 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,679 Speaker 1: that a lot of us had another place that we 260 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: could retreat to, like our parents bedroom when something like 261 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 1: this goes on. So good for you for not being 262 00:18:55,480 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 1: ashamed to do such a thing, because honestly, sometimes the 263 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,439 Speaker 1: hat man is so direct and coming at somebody. It 264 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: can persist through the night, or it can persist another way. 265 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: But you had a feeling of shelter and perhaps that 266 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: kind of scared him off, like I can't go up 267 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:18,239 Speaker 1: against mom and Dad's couch. So but that coldness that 268 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: you felt in the air very fascinating because that makes 269 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: it physical, doesn't it. Here you had a dream, but 270 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:31,679 Speaker 1: it became physical, and you took note of that, you 271 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: felt that. I think when people take a moment to 272 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: analyze what people are saying when they have these experiences, 273 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 1: that it brings it home. Like, Okay, I had a dream, 274 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 1: but something physical happened in the room. We can feel 275 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: a chill. Sure, okay, blame it on sleep paralysis and whatnot, 276 00:19:56,600 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: But what's that weird chill in the air. When paranormal 277 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: activities going on, you'll hear of temperature drops going in 278 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 1: the room or in the house or in the hallway. 279 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 1: It is a common thing. So something had stepped out 280 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: of their dream state and into the room. Guys terrible, 281 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: you know, I understand too. Not to blame yourself about 282 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 1: not listening to this teacher that you say you didn't respect. Okay, 283 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 1: I get it. It's something that teachers are not supposed 284 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: to talk about as church things. I don't know if 285 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: you're in a Catholic school or what you're setting was, 286 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: but at least somebody mentioned something to you and it 287 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 1: apparently stuck with you that you thought perhaps that should 288 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 1: have been something I took heed of, But hey, it happens. 289 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: It happens. But there are a lot of churchgoers that 290 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 1: have this going on, and people who say I'm a 291 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 1: hard core Christian and still the evil came. It's not 292 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: always you, it's not always what you're doing. It's a 293 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 1: lot of different things that could have been going on 294 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: at the time. But again, I'm only getting a snippet 295 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: of your life, so it's our to analyze by just 296 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 1: this one email. But um, very good that you noticed that. Afterwards, 297 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 1: you felt like you were cursed, you felt like you 298 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: had a monkey on your back since this moment. This 299 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 1: is important, guys, okay, because a lot of times people 300 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: are like, I just feel like you know something's gone wrong, 301 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 1: and you you were able to pinpoint that moment when 302 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: things started going wrong or weird in your life. That 303 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: is special. That took some thinking, I'm assuming on your 304 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: part to know what could it have been. He didn't 305 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: mention that you read about my books or you probably 306 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: heard me talking as you mentioned about how this dark 307 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: presence tries to dig his filthy hands into people's lives 308 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,479 Speaker 1: and leave a mark, and he put a mark on 309 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: you somehow for some reason. We don't know always why, 310 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: and it's not always important either. What's important to know 311 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 1: is that you noticed it. You notice the shift in 312 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: your life. You notice that change, and you know it 313 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 1: was him, and you know he was sinister when he 314 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: did it. And thinking about this, imagine, just just imagine 315 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 1: with me ten years ago this happened to you. Imagine 316 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 1: when somebody would come up to you and say, well, 317 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: Mike guy wasn't negative. He's my guardian angel. How do 318 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 1: you feel about that? I know I get these every 319 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 1: so often. People are like, woll I wasn't scared. He 320 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 1: protected me. It doesn't sound like the same thing, does it. 321 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 1: It is so out of the ordinary to receive these 322 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,679 Speaker 1: types of emails. When I get those, they're like maybe 323 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:20,640 Speaker 1: one and a hundred or more. But these people are 324 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: so hardcore to be like, he's okay, he's a guardian, 325 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: he's helped me out. It's like night and day. So 326 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 1: you're talking about one hit from this dude, and you 327 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: feel the repercussions throughout your life pretty negative? Huh So yeah, um, 328 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 1: I hear you, I feel you, And yes, thank goodness 329 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: for the Internet to bring us closer and to be 330 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: able to compare notes and figure out what may be happening. 331 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: I'm glad you came across me speaking on this horrible 332 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: thing and what he can do and make it stretch 333 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 1: so long throughout your life. But the good news is, 334 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: my friend, you do not have to sit there with 335 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: this rotten piece of craps ink on you. Okay I 336 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: should say stink. You don't have to sit there with that. No, 337 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter why he was there, unless you're practicing 338 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: something that is who do dark type stuff. You don't 339 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: have to sit there with that. And I've talked about 340 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 1: it many times here on the show on how to 341 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 1: first bless your space and work your way out from there. 342 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 1: Sure he's dug a little bit, but you can clear this. 343 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: You really can't. Now. Another thing that's kind of fascinating 344 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 1: to me. You mentioned my book cover. Now, every once 345 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 1: in a while, I get somebody that will say, well, 346 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: maybe it's just you and your work that's spreading these 347 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 1: thoughts out there to the world, and they think they're 348 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: experiencing these things independently. But maybe this person came across 349 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: your book cover and they dreamt about it, and it's 350 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: just a coincidence. Their life started to get really kind 351 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: of weird and dark after seeing that book cover. Now, 352 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 1: you said ten years ago, maybe ten eleven years ago 353 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: that this happened to you. My book came out that 354 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: has that cover you're describing in fourteen, no relation to 355 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 1: what it is that you've experienced, but fascinating to me 356 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 1: that this is the image that you got of him. 357 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 1: For myself, when I chose that background and image of 358 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: him coming on this horizon walking up, it just felt important. 359 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: I wanted to show like flames behind them, you know, 360 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: to show the power of the darkness and of hell 361 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:51,919 Speaker 1: pretty much coming forward. So that's fascinating. It just blows 362 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: my mind that this is it, and that's the first 363 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: thing that came to my mind when you were describing it. 364 00:25:55,960 --> 00:26:00,199 Speaker 1: So again, you can get rid of this. It's not 365 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: all said and done. Light winds over the dark. You guys, 366 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 1: you are listening to Dark Becomes Light with me Heidi 367 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 1: Hollis on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast, 368 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 1: a m paranormal podcast network, and we'll be right back 369 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: with emails from all of you. Stick around, don't go anywhere. 370 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 1: There's more. Heidi Hollis coming right up. 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Today, I'm going through 405 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,479 Speaker 1: my email in box trying to get through some of 406 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: the situations that a lot of you are finding yourselves 407 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: in when dealing with things out of the ordinary. And 408 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 1: remember you can always send me anything that you've experienced 409 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: out of the ordinary. Yes, my specialty are these darker topics, 410 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: but of the eight books that I have out there, 411 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: it's mostly on the positive. So trust me feel comfortable 412 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 1: and at ease if you'd like to send me anything 413 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: having to do with Angelic encounters, Jesus encounters, near death 414 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: experiences and all of the above. Alright, So this next email, 415 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 1: this one comes to us from Evan, and Evan asked, hello, Heidi. 416 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 1: The past few days I have been dealing with shadow people, 417 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: or maybe just one shadow person. I tried to sage 418 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 1: in so far it isn't working. I am desperate. Can 419 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: you give me any tips? Please? Thank you, Evan. I 420 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: have to say when I get emails like this, they 421 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 1: often are titled please help asap, something very urgent, and 422 00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: I don't wait to speak of it here on the air. 423 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: When I see these emails pop up, I try to 424 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 1: open them as quickly as I can and I send 425 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: the help that I know works. And that is something 426 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: that I discussed and I just did before the break 427 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: about blessing your home. I've described it several times here 428 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 1: on the program. I've put it in my books. I've 429 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: put it in my group which is on Facebook that 430 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: is called the Shadow People and hat Man Experiencer Group. 431 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: And I welcome you guys to go there to join us, 432 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: so you can see the pinned post there on how 433 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: to bless your home. So I don't go over each 434 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: step here so repeatedly, but I want to say something 435 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: about this email in particular, and it's something that I 436 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: often am passed or suggested or spoken of, is saging. 437 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: Saging is also known as smudging, and you know, is 438 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: a fantastic ceremonial prey just for Native American and it's 439 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: also been used for New Age or wakened practices and 440 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 1: so many other things. But one thing for myself, because 441 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 1: I don't know those practices, it's not something that I 442 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: personally encourage. I know the Christian method and that is 443 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: what works for the most part. I have again time 444 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: and time again, so many people tell me, Look, I 445 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,959 Speaker 1: did the sage, I walked through and I blessed it 446 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: with this. And my question is are you native? Are 447 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: you Wacan? Do you believe in New Age things? Where's 448 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: your faith lie? If your faith is there within those 449 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 1: practices or if it's just something you saw on a 450 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 1: TV show or somebody suggested that you do, go and 451 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: get feathers and and get the sage and walk through 452 00:31:56,200 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 1: and do this, I think it matters is where you 453 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: are putting your dedication. As I said so many times again, 454 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: it's like, are you going through the motions? Are you 455 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: going through the emotions? There's a difference. Where is your faith. 456 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 1: That's what you need to put in the face of 457 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: something so dark and so evil. You can't just mimic 458 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: or practice what somebody else believes to be true for themselves. 459 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: We have to go and dig in the same well 460 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 1: that we come from. So if you were raised in 461 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: the faith of Christianity, use your Christian beliefs and faith. 462 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 1: And where that is is called holy water. I use 463 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: spring water that I'll keep in the sunlight for a 464 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: couple of hours and then I pray over it. It's 465 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: like a purification for myself to bless it. And then 466 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 1: I use a cross necklace that I always wear in 467 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 1: the blessing of my space, my home, and then I 468 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 1: keep the blessing with me. I keep my cross on me, 469 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: so wherever I go, it's not going to come visit 470 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: me these dark things, because things do like to follow you, 471 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 1: especially of the shadow people level of darkness. So I 472 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 1: really don't understand how people go and practice things that 473 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 1: are just not a part of them. It's very, very 474 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 1: strange to me. I just would never think like, well, okay, 475 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 1: I'm a Christian, let me go look up and see 476 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 1: what they do and say. For instance, voodoo. How do 477 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: they get rid of things? Why would I pick up 478 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: voodoo and try to banish something? Of course this is 479 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 1: not the same level of that, No, but this is 480 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: new age to do that type of thing. If you're 481 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: not of American and practicing something of your faith that 482 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 1: you know to do, it's okay for us to go 483 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: back to our faith of childhood. It really is. It's okay. 484 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 1: There seems to be this stink in the air of 485 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: people being ashamed or just so resilient to want to 486 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,919 Speaker 1: say that, oh, I was raised this or I came 487 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,319 Speaker 1: from that, and it's like they talk about it with 488 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: such disdain. It's like nothing they think warmly of anymore. 489 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 1: It's not like a warm, fuzzy, friendly feeling. It's this 490 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: thing that you had to do. Well. You had to 491 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 1: go to school too. Did you love school? Most people 492 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,439 Speaker 1: won't say that, yeah, it was a blast. The same 493 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 1: thing for church. It wasn't like a blast. But I 494 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 1: sure did have fun with Sunday school. But sitting still 495 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 1: in mass now, now that wasn't fun. I didn't find 496 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 1: it fun. Sure you've got some morsels of information that 497 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 1: could be helpful sometimes, but as a kid, I couldn't. 498 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 1: I just couldn't hear it. I really couldn't. So why 499 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 1: don't we get more comfortable with that in the past, 500 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 1: and why can't we just make it something new for 501 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 1: ourselves in the present. It's okay, it really is. I'm 502 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 1: not saying go out to your building of faith and 503 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 1: have to be there and practice that thing that you 504 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:34,359 Speaker 1: didn't like doing way back when. I'm saying, reinvented, explore it, 505 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:39,720 Speaker 1: start a new and honestly, it's easier when you're an adult. 506 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,319 Speaker 1: It really is, because you're not forcing yourself. You're not 507 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 1: being forced by somebody else either. It's okay. It blows 508 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,399 Speaker 1: my mind when people are met with something so dark 509 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 1: and so evil, they're grabbing anything. It's almost like when 510 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 1: you're being met with your death. People get really, really holy. 511 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 1: They start praying the best pure prayers I've ever heard 512 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,760 Speaker 1: in their lives because they're at the end of their life. 513 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 1: They want to find that faith and make it so 514 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:11,360 Speaker 1: fresh and perfect or somebody that they know is dying 515 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 1: or ill. I mean, boy, you'll never see somebody crack 516 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 1: faster on those knees in prayer until something dire is 517 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 1: going on. Why can't we just exercise that muscle and 518 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:27,919 Speaker 1: be comfortable with things right now where we don't save 519 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 1: it for that last minute. That really good. Fine two prayer. 520 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:37,279 Speaker 1: I don't understand. It's okay, it's okay. We could take 521 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 1: it moderate, we can do it a little bit here, 522 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:44,879 Speaker 1: a little bit there instead of that last minute force thing. 523 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 1: I just wow, but you know we're flawed, so it's okay, 524 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 1: it's okay. I'll tell you I wrote a book for 525 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 1: kids some years ago that it's kind of like diary 526 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,760 Speaker 1: of a wimpy kid type of book, and it's called 527 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 1: The Fickle Finders that you'll find out the other f 528 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,479 Speaker 1: word dot com along with this other book I'm about 529 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 1: to mention. I'm a cartoonist, so I figured I'll just 530 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,759 Speaker 1: do this book and try to get kids comfortable with 531 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,440 Speaker 1: their faith and all this without being a tough bible 532 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 1: thumper or anything like that, but just keeping it real 533 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:23,360 Speaker 1: and making it fun because I love doing comics. And 534 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:28,879 Speaker 1: I did not hear from one kid. Instead, I heard 535 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 1: from a bunch of adults saying, wow, this book is awesome. 536 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 1: It was hilarious. It really helped me with my faith 537 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 1: because I didn't try to cram it. I just kept 538 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 1: a casual and observations that I've made through life, like 539 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,360 Speaker 1: you're to meet the old lady that's just so warm 540 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 1: and special and you just know they got something and 541 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 1: wonder what that thing is. And oftentimes it's this embrace 542 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,960 Speaker 1: of their faith, their love of God or whatever. And uh, 543 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 1: I just thought it would be neat to put into 544 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 1: a kid's book, And all of these adults wrote me 545 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,720 Speaker 1: back to let me know how it made them feel. 546 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 1: So I thought, okay, okay, I will do an adult 547 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 1: version of this. And I call that book the Other 548 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 1: F Word, So if you go to the other F 549 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 1: word dot com, I did an adult version perception of 550 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,799 Speaker 1: faith in our lives, where we're at and how we 551 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,759 Speaker 1: could get to the next level. And again I don't 552 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 1: mean to sound too preachy and stuff here, but again 553 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 1: we're talking about demons and the devil. I don't know 554 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 1: of any film or anything else that goes up against 555 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 1: such a darkness with like I don't know a poem. No, 556 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,400 Speaker 1: they fight fire with fire. So I'm just keeping it 557 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 1: real with you. There's no way to take down the 558 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:57,920 Speaker 1: devil or demons with hope of I don't know, Candy 559 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 1: canes knocking it upside its head or pebbles. No, it 560 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 1: doesn't work. You have to meet it where it's at, 561 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 1: and that is with an equivalent force, and that is 562 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 1: where our faith lies. That something will help us battle 563 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 1: what we are being faced with. And so many times, 564 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,480 Speaker 1: usually in an email like this, the next line will be, 565 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:28,239 Speaker 1: I don't get into that faith thing, but I use sage. Okay, 566 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,239 Speaker 1: you used sage. That is a Native American belief or 567 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 1: wicked belief or New Age. You use the faith of 568 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:40,400 Speaker 1: something though it wasn't your own. So really, let's just 569 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 1: be real and keep it honest. We've got to be 570 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:47,440 Speaker 1: able to take these things on ourselves with that piece 571 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,880 Speaker 1: of faith that can do that. And I won't make 572 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 1: apologies to say that God. Okay, got to go to 573 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:59,359 Speaker 1: God take this thing out. That's our backup plan, that's 574 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:03,879 Speaker 1: our forward plan, that's our middle plan, that's the whole plan. Okay, 575 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 1: just keeping it real with you guys, and we can 576 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 1: do this. We can't, all right, you guys. 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You are listening to Dark Becomes 613 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,320 Speaker 1: Light with me, Heidi Hollis on the I Heart Radio 614 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:50,919 Speaker 1: and Coast to Coast am parano podcast Network. Today it's 615 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 1: all about your emails and getting down to the bottom 616 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,400 Speaker 1: of whatever it is that you're experiencing out there. And 617 00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 1: my next email comes from James and he says, Hi, Heidi, 618 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:07,920 Speaker 1: I lived in a dark house linked to suicide is 619 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:14,400 Speaker 1: started with poltergeist activity and then apparitions. I watched my 620 00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:19,480 Speaker 1: parents go from getting their dream home to consuming each 621 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:26,880 Speaker 1: other with darkness and violence. My dad left or he 622 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:33,560 Speaker 1: said he would kill himself. My mom attempted suicide numerous times. 623 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:41,280 Speaker 1: I attempted suicide, and my brother he did kill himself. 624 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:49,479 Speaker 1: The two previous homeowners killed themselves. There is so much 625 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:54,880 Speaker 1: more to this story. But the reason I went outside 626 00:43:54,880 --> 00:44:01,880 Speaker 1: one night and heard someone running behind me. I turned 627 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:09,080 Speaker 1: around and a figure darker than black and dripping with 628 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:16,040 Speaker 1: hate and fear, ran straight past me as close as 629 00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:27,640 Speaker 1: possible without touching me. That was why. Wow, James, short 630 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,680 Speaker 1: and to the point. And I know you're saying there's 631 00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,759 Speaker 1: so much more to the story, and I'm reading that, 632 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,280 Speaker 1: but I got this picture. And I don't know about 633 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,719 Speaker 1: any of you out there, but I am sitting here 634 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:51,000 Speaker 1: in chills, bad dark chills, and with the twenty plus 635 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:55,360 Speaker 1: years that I have had emails coming to me based 636 00:44:55,440 --> 00:45:00,640 Speaker 1: on these topics, I still get chills. And you know what, 637 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:05,560 Speaker 1: I still get tears. And it's just me sitting here 638 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:10,520 Speaker 1: reading these emails. I don't have a big crew, it's 639 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:15,840 Speaker 1: just me and I read these emails and the tears 640 00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:21,560 Speaker 1: just flow because my God What are we dealing with 641 00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:27,440 Speaker 1: out there? What are we dealing with? And we don't 642 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:33,360 Speaker 1: have the ability always to go to the next person 643 00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:37,480 Speaker 1: in our lives, or even next door or even in 644 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:45,000 Speaker 1: the next bedroom, to say what I just saw maybe 645 00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:51,239 Speaker 1: behind what we are experiencing here? What's wrong with us 646 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:57,200 Speaker 1: that we don't take these types of things serious. Listen 647 00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:01,319 Speaker 1: to this brief story from Jay Aims that is obviously 648 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:08,760 Speaker 1: from across the pond. This is hard, guys, This is hard. 649 00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:14,560 Speaker 1: This is not something that can be taken very lightly 650 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:18,320 Speaker 1: by myself, and it shouldn't be taken lightly by any 651 00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:23,960 Speaker 1: of you who are listening to this. This person is 652 00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:28,239 Speaker 1: living in a house of doom and they saw what 653 00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:35,400 Speaker 1: caused it. Absolutely all of the elements that happens with 654 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:45,600 Speaker 1: a shadow, people, haunting were here, strange happenings, polter geist apparitions, everything. 655 00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:53,560 Speaker 1: The oppression was thick. The depression came and then came 656 00:46:54,120 --> 00:47:00,640 Speaker 1: violence with it. They consumed each other to the point 657 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:07,919 Speaker 1: of each wanting to kill themselves. Can you imagine, say, 658 00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:11,760 Speaker 1: the Brady Bunch moving in, everybody's full of love and joy, 659 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:17,360 Speaker 1: and then they move into this home and this darkness 660 00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:24,400 Speaker 1: overcomes every conversation wouldn't you notice that people might think, well, 661 00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,560 Speaker 1: maybe I don't know, I don't like the new neighborhood, 662 00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:31,640 Speaker 1: or maybe my new job or new school. Maybe that's 663 00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:35,080 Speaker 1: the problem. You try to figure it out, but then 664 00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:39,440 Speaker 1: you notice the next person is having a similar situation, 665 00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,560 Speaker 1: and before you know it, you're starting to hit on 666 00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:47,640 Speaker 1: each other, yell at each other violence out of nowhere. 667 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:55,439 Speaker 1: I mean, what could it be if only these dark 668 00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:59,360 Speaker 1: things raise their hand or walk past you sooner you 669 00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:03,440 Speaker 1: my have been able to figure out, Wow, this is 670 00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:07,920 Speaker 1: something dark going on here, This this dripping with hate 671 00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,840 Speaker 1: and darkness thing just walked past me. Would you be 672 00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:14,239 Speaker 1: able to put two and two together to know it 673 00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:19,120 Speaker 1: was potentially responsible for what was going on? If people 674 00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:24,799 Speaker 1: could only see that they were standing under shade when 675 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:28,680 Speaker 1: they thought they moved into the daylight of a dream home. 676 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:35,319 Speaker 1: When you learned that the previous owners killed themselves. I 677 00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:40,640 Speaker 1: wonder if it crossed the minds of your family, like, wow, 678 00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:44,120 Speaker 1: what could have been so wrong here? And then when 679 00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:48,920 Speaker 1: you all individually wanted an attempted suicide and your brother 680 00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:53,400 Speaker 1: was successful, that pattern had to come to mind and 681 00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:57,920 Speaker 1: had to But again, it's kind of hard people to 682 00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:02,239 Speaker 1: push your mind to that reality something like that going on. 683 00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:07,319 Speaker 1: It's it isn't the easiest thing to move. Point, Like, 684 00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,600 Speaker 1: you hear of tragedy and you're like, I can't imagine 685 00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:14,239 Speaker 1: why someone would do such a thing like that, murder, suicide, 686 00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:19,439 Speaker 1: whatever it is, bank fraud, robbing people. But if you've 687 00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,120 Speaker 1: met those people beforehand and that was not a part 688 00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,520 Speaker 1: of who they are, and if you know yourself well 689 00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:26,480 Speaker 1: enough and it wasn't a part of who you are, 690 00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:31,160 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you're thinking these things, it 691 00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,000 Speaker 1: seems like it's so ingrained. Right when you're in a funk, 692 00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,200 Speaker 1: it seems like, my gosh, I just I can't shake 693 00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:41,480 Speaker 1: past this. I just can't. But if you could look 694 00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:46,279 Speaker 1: around the room and see there was something shoving its 695 00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:52,120 Speaker 1: mouth near your ear and whispering, you are oppressed, you 696 00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:57,400 Speaker 1: are depressed, you're isolated. Could we smack it off and 697 00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:03,919 Speaker 1: shake it off? I think we could. And that's where 698 00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:08,239 Speaker 1: I'm hoping to be of help, to point out, hey, dude, 699 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,200 Speaker 1: you got something on your shoulders really nasty. Just please. 700 00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,279 Speaker 1: And I'm not a psychic to the point that I'm 701 00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,759 Speaker 1: sitting there and looking and seeing these things on people. Yeah, 702 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:20,920 Speaker 1: sometimes I can sometimes I feel it, but can't we all? 703 00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,959 Speaker 1: I think we can. Here, you saw this thing run 704 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:26,759 Speaker 1: past you, and I don't know how many years later 705 00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:28,560 Speaker 1: it took for you to see it, but you saw 706 00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:32,600 Speaker 1: it at some point. If we can point these things 707 00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:36,200 Speaker 1: out and warn the next person, we get more of 708 00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:39,719 Speaker 1: an upper hand. You get that. This is also one 709 00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:42,520 Speaker 1: of the reasons why these dark things look for the 710 00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:46,520 Speaker 1: person who can look at them. So if you have 711 00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:50,520 Speaker 1: perception beyond the norm of the next person, oh, they're 712 00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,200 Speaker 1: coming for you. I hate to say it, but that 713 00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,600 Speaker 1: just means you have to double up and put your 714 00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,360 Speaker 1: big barrier out there, sprinkle some jesus Is on it, 715 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:04,719 Speaker 1: as I always say, and stand your ground. You can 716 00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,760 Speaker 1: do it. We all have to, because these things, again, 717 00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,560 Speaker 1: they're placing their bets on us to not figure them out. 718 00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:16,719 Speaker 1: And honestly, personally, I'm not taking that all right, But 719 00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:22,760 Speaker 1: there's something here. You got to see that dark matter, 720 00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:29,080 Speaker 1: the Dark Maker. Damage was done. There was a loss 721 00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:34,279 Speaker 1: in your family and your family's sanity, and then the 722 00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:40,799 Speaker 1: loss of your brother. Pray for your brother. Okay, he 723 00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:46,080 Speaker 1: got tricked. I don't know if you guys know this, 724 00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:51,239 Speaker 1: but there are some faiths. If you killed yourself. You 725 00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:57,480 Speaker 1: cannot be buried in a religious cemetery. You are disregarded 726 00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:00,399 Speaker 1: because you just gave up on the No. Umber one 727 00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:04,880 Speaker 1: gift from God and that was life. How terrible, And 728 00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:08,560 Speaker 1: of course we get angry. Person killed themselves. You left us, 729 00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:11,399 Speaker 1: You left us? How could you do this to us? 730 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:18,520 Speaker 1: Pray for their soul. It helps to intercede in what 731 00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:25,040 Speaker 1: happened to them. Now, if you think about that darkness 732 00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:28,960 Speaker 1: that oppressed and depressed and isolated a person where they 733 00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:34,319 Speaker 1: feel like there's nowhere to go, do you think it's 734 00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:38,040 Speaker 1: fair this happened to them and they went and they 735 00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:42,640 Speaker 1: took their lives. Do you think that's fair that well, 736 00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,680 Speaker 1: they're going to forever be in the pits of hell 737 00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:49,000 Speaker 1: for what they did to themselves. Does it feel fair 738 00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:54,800 Speaker 1: when they got tricked? I don't think so. I think 739 00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:59,279 Speaker 1: that that soul and that person has the opportunity to 740 00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:03,040 Speaker 1: receive prayer and to receive help to get out of 741 00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:08,200 Speaker 1: their situation. I know it sounds strange, but would God 742 00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:13,440 Speaker 1: be so cruel? Really? I have had people and people 743 00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:18,520 Speaker 1: that I know who supposedly attempted suicide but don't remember it. 744 00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:21,759 Speaker 1: But guess who was sitting next to their bedside when 745 00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:25,000 Speaker 1: they wake up strapped to a hospital bed, is hat 746 00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:30,600 Speaker 1: Man laughing about how he almost had them? So what 747 00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,640 Speaker 1: if they were successful? What if it was hat Man 748 00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:38,440 Speaker 1: the whole time who had perpetrated the whole act because 749 00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:42,040 Speaker 1: he threatens that to people, did you know that? Does 750 00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:47,720 Speaker 1: that feel fair? I would say not have faith people. 751 00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:51,960 Speaker 1: We can get through this together. We will. We just 752 00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:55,960 Speaker 1: have to acknowledge what is going on and help each 753 00:53:55,960 --> 00:54:02,160 Speaker 1: other out. We can do it. We can. In suicide 754 00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:08,560 Speaker 1: is not the end all of these souls. God has mercy. 755 00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,880 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, all right, you guys, don't forget to 756 00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,480 Speaker 1: go to Heidi Hollis dot com and send me your 757 00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:19,560 Speaker 1: emails about whatever you have concerns about, from angels to aliens, 758 00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:23,000 Speaker 1: shadow people to hat Man. You have been listening to 759 00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,680 Speaker 1: Dark Becomes Light with me, Heidi Hollis on the I 760 00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:29,720 Speaker 1: Heart Radio and Coast to Coast a m paranormal podcast network, 761 00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:44,440 Speaker 1: and we'll catch you next time. Goodbye, everybody. 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