WEBVTT - #323 - Aaron "Ace" Christian 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.360 What up. It's Ace. Catch you on the Bootleg Cab Show. 0:00:05.800 --> 0:00:09.200 Bootleg cap Podcast Special guests in here. My guy Ace. 0:00:09.600 --> 0:00:11.879 If you guys do not know who Ace is, big 0:00:11.920 --> 0:00:15.920 time manager in the music industry, Manager's Corday managing Turbo. 0:00:16.600 --> 0:00:17.440 Who else you managed? 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:24.160 Tommy Genesis? Okay, Tommy Genesis, A couple other couple other developments. 0:00:24.360 --> 0:00:26.080 So how did you get started in the music industry 0:00:26.079 --> 0:00:27.360 because you're from Boston. 0:00:27.080 --> 0:00:30.720 Right, Yeah, I'm from New Bedford, Massachusetts. Man, it's like 0:00:30.760 --> 0:00:34.720 forty minutes south of Boston. I had a mutual friend, 0:00:34.760 --> 0:00:37.880 her name is Susante James. She was living in Miami 0:00:37.920 --> 0:00:39.680 at the time. I was going to school in Florida, 0:00:40.600 --> 0:00:44.000 and we had a mutual friend of White Club Jean Ah. Yeah, yeah, 0:00:44.080 --> 0:00:48.599 so White Club out of concert down in Miami. I 0:00:48.640 --> 0:00:52.000 came down from Daytona Beach to kick it with Susie 0:00:52.600 --> 0:00:55.279 on her college campus, Lynn University at the time. It's 0:00:55.280 --> 0:00:57.840 in Boca Raton, Florida, went down and watched class in 0:00:57.920 --> 0:01:01.160 Miami at the film One. Me and him just connected backstage. 0:01:01.240 --> 0:01:05.160 We like, just you know, he's he was just cool 0:01:05.160 --> 0:01:07.319 as fucking He took a genuine interest to me. I 0:01:07.400 --> 0:01:09.440 was a school at the time. I was playing scholarship basketball, 0:01:09.480 --> 0:01:12.960 so I wasn't even the music industry but play Saint 0:01:13.040 --> 0:01:17.160 Andrew's University. No, but through Cooking University at this time 0:01:17.600 --> 0:01:18.440 in Daytona Beach. 0:01:18.680 --> 0:01:20.040 So you were going to school in Florida. 0:01:20.240 --> 0:01:22.400 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was playing scholarship basketball. 0:01:22.560 --> 0:01:24.880 That's great. So you ended up meeting white Cliff just 0:01:24.920 --> 0:01:27.520 through her. Through her, I just fucked with you and 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:30.479 from there. From then what happens with white Cliff? 0:01:30.720 --> 0:01:34.600 I went back to school. This is like my with 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:39.680 my sophomore yet we just stayed in touch. Unfortunately, he 0:01:39.760 --> 0:01:42.399 was running for president haiti, Oh. 0:01:42.360 --> 0:01:44.440 I remember that? Yeah, I forgot he did that? 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:45.119 Yeah bro? 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:48.000 What year was that? Was that? 0:01:48.080 --> 0:01:49.960 Like eight? Yeah? Nine? Yeah? 0:01:50.920 --> 0:01:51.400 Oh nine? 0:01:51.840 --> 0:01:55.720 So he lost, right, he dropped out, he got shot, 0:01:56.000 --> 0:01:57.160 and he was just like, I'm good. 0:01:57.160 --> 0:02:00.280 How do I not remember why Cleiff getting shots? 0:02:00.280 --> 0:02:03.120 Like the president of that time, you know, it wasn't 0:02:03.120 --> 0:02:03.800 really that that. 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:05.520 Important trying to kill white Cleft. 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:09.360 I mean, that's important, but like what the fuck? 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:12.760 Yeah, assassination attempt on one of the members of the 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:15.040 Fuji's and the other guys in. 0:02:15.040 --> 0:02:18.520 President for it, what the fun? Maybe there's some lineas 0:02:18.560 --> 0:02:19.000 between the two. 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:26.480 Who knows the conspiracies anyway, So continue he was running 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:27.600 for president at the time. 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:29.600 Yeah, he was one of the president at the time, 0:02:29.919 --> 0:02:32.839 and he was just using me as like his young 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:35.919 eyes and ears for the landscape where music was at 0:02:35.960 --> 0:02:38.640 because even though he was in politics, like it's like 0:02:38.680 --> 0:02:41.200 he's still he's still a musician and he was out 0:02:41.200 --> 0:02:43.360 of his deal Sony. You know he had that song 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:47.360 with with Akon and Lil Wayne that was a smash. 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:51.160 I'm gonna tell you who told me Cash moves everything 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:53.880 around me? So get down down the bills. The sweetest girl, 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:55.079 the sweetest. 0:02:54.639 --> 0:02:59.440 Girl, sweetest girl, sweetest girl. I remember this. 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:01.079 I remember, okay now that what she was. 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:04.919 Remember it was like the last kind of like radio record. 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:06.560 Yeah, yeah, it was the last one. Yeah, I remember 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:10.280 so like he had that record and like this is 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:12.960 like two years later when I met and he was 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:14.640 just like this is one. Like it was cool to 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:17.280 be independent. Remember, like YouTube like took over TV and 0:03:17.280 --> 0:03:20.080 it was the forefront and the centerpiece of all contents. 0:03:20.080 --> 0:03:22.560 Like right now, you're really it's really like the when 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:24.639 it's cool to be independent though right now for real, 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:26.720 everybody wants to be indie. 0:03:26.800 --> 0:03:30.000 You get it out right now. The labels on the DSPs, 0:03:30.040 --> 0:03:35.640 they're like squeezing the juice side of like everyone kid no, 0:03:35.840 --> 0:03:38.360 but it's like it's like but it's like if you 0:03:38.440 --> 0:03:40.280 upload your music to distro Kid, where's it going. 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:40.560 To go then? 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:42.080 And you're paying for your own ads? Like, how are 0:03:42.080 --> 0:03:44.520 you gonna get into the playlist where you get visibility 0:03:44.680 --> 0:03:47.320 for the first twenty four to forty eight hours, playlists 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:50.800 actually work. After that, it's just visibility. But visibility is 0:03:50.800 --> 0:03:52.600 everything awareness. 0:03:52.680 --> 0:03:54.680 I think l Russell's done a good job getting on playlist. 0:03:54.720 --> 0:03:58.640 That's one guy, Russo Core you know. 0:03:58.600 --> 0:04:00.520 Tell me what what's the iron even both of those 0:04:00.560 --> 0:04:01.440 names you just mentioned. 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:03.600 I know if you guys who are doing very well 0:04:03.400 --> 0:04:06.000 we work together on Distro Kid and on. 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:09.240 But if you look at if you just look again, 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:09.880 I'm gon use this word. 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:11.480 I don't want to get well, we'll get to all this. 0:04:11.520 --> 0:04:12.680 But okay, why CLEF. 0:04:14.120 --> 0:04:19.400 Twelve, this is why? Like being independent was like cool, 0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:23.440 like you had like you know, funk volume you have okay, yes, yeah, 0:04:24.000 --> 0:04:28.279 volume wave and tis strange music and like it was 0:04:28.360 --> 0:04:31.119 you could be independent at the chance was like acid 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:32.120 rap chance that was. 0:04:33.080 --> 0:04:34.960 Both him and Chance were independent. 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:37.040 Is yeah, even mac Miller like was Roster, but like 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:40.280 that's independent, Like rostro was independence. They weren't the time, 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:44.120 you know. But in any case, I was just like 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:46.160 putting cleft onto like what was happening at that time. 0:04:46.400 --> 0:04:49.599 Like j Cole was like, you know for this like 0:04:49.640 --> 0:04:52.240 Friday night lights, Ga, you know what I'm saying, like 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:54.880 section eighty Kendrick and Ship. So I was just keeping 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:56.760 him privy to like who was popping and what was 0:04:56.800 --> 0:05:01.040 going on and b the time, like my senior year 0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:03.040 came around, like I've been playing ball my whole life 0:05:03.360 --> 0:05:04.760 and at a high level, I just got to like 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:06.560 burn down, tired of it. It's not being fun because 0:05:06.560 --> 0:05:08.479 it became a business to me in our age. So 0:05:08.520 --> 0:05:11.080 I reached out the Clefts and I was like, Yo, 0:05:12.040 --> 0:05:15.960 I want to be in the music industry. Would you 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:17.360 want to be like my an R. I'm like yeah, 0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:19.680 that's like I was searching the consultants in the music 0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:22.760 consulting in an R kind of fitsed an exact description 0:05:22.839 --> 0:05:25.400 of what that is. And he's like, Okay, don't call 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:27.680 me when you graduate. I'm like, dude, I'm in college, 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:32.360 Like I can go play pro overseas. I have a degree, 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:35.680 and it's like, you're like, that's my like stamp of reassurance. 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:36.880 When I got out of college, it's like call me 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:37.480 when you graduate. 0:05:37.520 --> 0:05:39.040 I'm like, I graduated today. I quit. 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:42.920 Yeah, bro, so I fucking I did. I mean, I graduated. 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:45.080 I just I went out to New York to his crib. 0:05:45.880 --> 0:05:47.400 We chopped it up and kicked him more, and then 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:49.479 I just started making back and forth trips from like 0:05:49.600 --> 0:05:52.960 Massachusetts to New York. She's getting in the studio and 0:05:53.000 --> 0:05:54.240 he was working at Daddy's house. 0:05:55.920 --> 0:05:57.760 Were you at a I saw? The only time I 0:05:57.760 --> 0:06:00.880 saw white Cliff live was rare animally at south By 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:03.640 Southwest and like two thousand and fourteen. 0:06:03.880 --> 0:06:05.560 I didn't go with him, man, I remember that, but 0:06:05.560 --> 0:06:05.880 I didn't go. 0:06:06.000 --> 0:06:09.159 It was just on stage with a guitar. Schoolboy Q 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:12.839 opened and it was fucking gnarly. It was like White 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:15.279 Cleff with a guitar and like a basement in Austin. 0:06:15.560 --> 0:06:19.480 Just yeah, nah, he's an incredible performer. Roads he plays 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:20.200 every instrument. 0:06:20.360 --> 0:06:21.080 He's a beast man. 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:23.560 Well but yeah, no, I mean in short for him, 0:06:23.640 --> 0:06:25.240 that was kind of how like I got him. It 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:28.240 was just like I got him with Clef. I was like, 0:06:29.480 --> 0:06:31.799 once I was working with him, I was just bringing 0:06:31.920 --> 0:06:34.440 in all of the people who were like my peers 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:37.120 who I was a fan of, right, but they are 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:40.760 fans of why Cleff. So because I'm there, Pier and 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:42.920 I'm young, and I'm able to bring them in studio 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:46.240 with Cleff and put them on records and curing videos 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:48.320 and all types of shit, like they're looking at me 0:06:48.360 --> 0:06:50.880 like I'm lit because they're like this is a legend 0:06:50.880 --> 0:06:53.240 and like this is the guy who's next to him Ace, 0:06:53.560 --> 0:06:55.039 And he relied on me to do that, and he 0:06:55.120 --> 0:06:58.000 gave me, fortunately, he gave me his platform in the 0:06:58.040 --> 0:06:59.919 green light to be able to just speak on his behalf, 0:07:00.680 --> 0:07:03.839 currate anything around him that I thought was dope, youthful 0:07:03.880 --> 0:07:05.520 and what was in because he was a little disconnected 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:07.520 from Right. So I built a lot of my relationships 0:07:08.040 --> 0:07:15.080 from originally utilizing clubs likeness in my positioning around him. 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:18.880 But then those relationships as time would pass, like I 0:07:18.960 --> 0:07:21.240 continue to add value to them and they became a 0:07:21.280 --> 0:07:22.120 relationship with my own. 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:23.480 So how do you end up linking up with the 0:07:23.560 --> 0:07:26.720 YBN kids because you obviously I met in the mirror 0:07:26.720 --> 0:07:30.360 through you. Yeah, Corde through You told me about cord shit. 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:33.320 You were like, there's this kid out in Maryland. Here's 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:36.080 a SoundCloud link. Yeah, before the freestyle. 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:38.840 So crazy, Bro, you know what's crazy yet, that's a 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:41.680 fact you really like you really were the first person 0:07:41.960 --> 0:07:44.800 who like, outside of like me of course, like work 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:46.320 with him. You were the first person who was on 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:50.080 corday for because no one even knows that the first 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:52.800 music got heard from Cordiyo was a SoundCloud thing. Brow. 0:07:52.840 --> 0:07:53.040 I know. 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:55.000 You send me a link and it was like it 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:56.680 was before any of those videos came out. It was 0:07:56.720 --> 0:07:57.560 before he was out here. 0:07:57.600 --> 0:07:59.200 Yeah, I just want to see your opinion because you 0:07:59.200 --> 0:08:02.720 were super supportive of the YBN shit. You always supported us, 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:04.760 so I wanted your opinion. That's so funny though, Bro, 0:08:04.800 --> 0:08:07.440 you really were the first one on him. Now, I 0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:12.480 got a call from my boy he's a OG James, 0:08:12.520 --> 0:08:15.360 he's a lawyer, and he was like, yeah, I got 0:08:15.360 --> 0:08:19.280 this kid. Actually it was from my boy Byron who 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:22.400 called me first, who was working with us O Management 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:24.480 at the time. He was a part of management. He's like, Yo, 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:28.880 me and James have this kid YB in the mirror 0:08:30.120 --> 0:08:32.640 and he needs you know, he needs a manager, Like 0:08:32.880 --> 0:08:36.240 he's about to be on the road and he's leaving tomorrow. 0:08:36.520 --> 0:08:37.920 Was it his mom was involved at first? 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:41.120 Two? Right? His moms was just always around my business. 0:08:41.160 --> 0:08:43.760 He's just like that's her only child. She just like 0:08:43.800 --> 0:08:46.080 couldn't let him leave home. But I was about to 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:47.840 go on like a five day road trip with Denverrick 0:08:47.920 --> 0:08:50.080 just to go fuck off from party with Coco. He 0:08:50.160 --> 0:08:52.560 was on tour with with fucking Dizzy. Sorry, I bet 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:53.800 we're about to jump on the tour of us to 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:56.800 go party in Denver Salt Lake City, Vegas. And I 0:08:56.800 --> 0:08:58.520 got that call and I don't even know who I 0:08:58.520 --> 0:09:00.280 mean it was. Bro. I was pretty much actually about 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:02.320 to be done with the music industry. I was about 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:05.360 to just stay on the brand's side of ship and 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:10.120 in corporate. I was just tired of like hustling so much. Bro. 0:09:10.559 --> 0:09:14.400 And then I got that call and he's like, yo, 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:17.360 uh it's a it's a it's a California leg of 0:09:17.360 --> 0:09:19.760 a tour and he needs someone who helped. I'm like, yo, 0:09:19.760 --> 0:09:22.360 I'm about to I got plans though, I'm like abo 0:09:22.480 --> 0:09:25.000 to just go fuck off. And he's like, all right, Well, 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:26.880 I'm just telling you, like, this kid's doing a million 0:09:26.960 --> 0:09:28.960 views a day on YouTube right now for his first 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:32.360 of a video, and whoever we put out there is 0:09:32.400 --> 0:09:34.440 probably gonna end up bonding with him, and that's gonna 0:09:34.559 --> 0:09:38.120 be like the solidified position, right. So I was like, 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:40.719 give me five minutes, hung up stalking a con call. 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:43.960 I'm like, yo, yeah, I checked them out and I'm like, oh, ship, 0:09:44.040 --> 0:09:48.079 like eight million views and nine days on this video. 0:09:48.760 --> 0:09:51.240 At the time, yeah, it was And if you remember, 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:52.920 a million views for a video at the time was 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:56.960 still like kind of like that was traditionally like a 0:09:57.000 --> 0:09:58.880 big record for an artist if you had a million 0:09:58.920 --> 0:10:01.800 views on YouTube, for sure. It's not like we hit 0:10:01.840 --> 0:10:03.760 the SoundCloud wave right after that. If you remember when 0:10:03.800 --> 0:10:05.120 people could do a million views in the day, but 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:06.280 Cole Bennett kind of changed that. 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:08.960 Yeah, now, the YouTube shit was big for sure. 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:10.760 Yeah, before that, if you had a million views, that 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:12.400 was a big record. So for him to have like 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:14.160 eight million views and nine days, I was like, yo, 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:17.520 I can't miss this opportunity. So I met him at 0:10:17.520 --> 0:10:21.720 the Montre on like an hour later, it's like one 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:24.560 in the morning, found out that we didn't have a 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:26.920 bus driver. It was a shitty van. I was gonna 0:10:26.960 --> 0:10:29.760 have to drive it. I had no license. I showed 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:31.640 back up for I was there like five in the morning, 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:36.120 jumped in with like five of these like little wild 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:39.360 young kids. Now, Mirror was super cool. He's pretty quiet. 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:41.640 He didn't know what the fuck was happening. Bro, Like, 0:10:41.679 --> 0:10:43.960 this is all happened so fast, and we went on 0:10:44.080 --> 0:10:49.559 like six city California run like kind of like the 0:10:49.600 --> 0:10:56.760 shittiest talents in California, like Bakersfield, Yes, Fresno was one. 0:10:57.520 --> 0:11:00.400 It was like, what what's what was it? Now? I 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:02.440 let the no that I let this local. It was 0:11:02.480 --> 0:11:05.839 like Oxnard, No, that's a pretty cool time to be 0:11:07.920 --> 0:11:10.360 it was Stocked was one of them. No, Modesta was 0:11:10.360 --> 0:11:11.960 one of them. And then it went way up into 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:14.120 Humble County, bro, like where people don't even go. But 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:16.520 we bought. And then we came back down into Arizona, 0:11:16.760 --> 0:11:18.440 so we bonded. We go real close and the rest 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:20.960 of his kind of history, bro, Like you know he 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:22.400 mia moved in with me. 0:11:23.080 --> 0:11:25.599 I know he was living with you. 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:30.800 I had the hype man whose name is Glizzie. I 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:33.800 had not mere had many j I had our DJ 0:11:34.880 --> 0:11:36.679 living with us. Bro. I had like five of these 0:11:36.720 --> 0:11:39.760 little niggas living in my love Jesus with fucking two dogs. 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:41.679 And then that mel went and bought a dog from 0:11:41.800 --> 0:11:47.760 Jazz Prince and it was a it was with. 0:11:47.720 --> 0:11:49.920 You when he was fucking black China. 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:54.160 Yeah, I made the phone call, like, I called TMZ 0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:56.319 to pull up on him outside of the bowl in 0:11:56.360 --> 0:11:59.920 alley Wood, China. Yeah. I was on a plane players 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:02.360 to take off. He calls me. He's like, yo, what 0:12:02.480 --> 0:12:05.480 at the bowling alley because he was fucking with China 0:12:05.480 --> 0:12:07.200 for like two weeks. But I'm like, you know, we 0:12:07.240 --> 0:12:09.600 gotta get this out, bro. I was just like, this 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:12.400 is like gold, Bro, you're fucking China. Like Jay's all 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:14.880 skinny and it's like eighteen. So I'm like, yo, at 0:12:14.880 --> 0:12:16.360 some point, you just gotta let me know when y'all 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:18.120 are in the public and I'm gonna do what I 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:20.640 gotta do. He calls me, he's like, Yo, I'm at 0:12:20.640 --> 0:12:23.840 the bowling out of China about to leave. I was like, Yo, 0:12:23.960 --> 0:12:25.480 I need you to hold her there for ten minutes. 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:29.000 I'm gonna call Temz to have them pull up. He's like, a, YO, 0:12:29.040 --> 0:12:30.120 I don't know if I can hold her, but I'm 0:12:30.120 --> 0:12:32.560 gonna try. My plane's want leave in like five minutes. 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:35.200 So I'm like, Yo, where you guys are. He's like, man, 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:37.520 we're going off the left entrance, out the side that 0:12:37.559 --> 0:12:39.080 goes into the parking lot. I need you to go 0:12:39.080 --> 0:12:40.959 out the other side, the other side, on the street side, 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:43.000 and this bush is there, teams He's way, he said, 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:44.839 I'm gonna redirect the hold on. I'm gonna call it 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:48.800 right back. My plane took off. So now I'm sitting 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:52.400 there in the air waiting right WiFi kicks in him 0:12:52.400 --> 0:12:55.440 like thirty minutes he texted me. He's like, YO, my bad. 0:12:55.480 --> 0:12:57.199 He's like, Yo, they got it. They got it. They 0:12:57.200 --> 0:13:00.400 all jumped out. She's pissed. I'm like, that's perfect. They 0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:03.000 got it thought. He's like yeah. I was like, what 0:13:03.080 --> 0:13:04.880 did you do? He was like I just asked like 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:06.080 I didn't know what was going on. I was like, 0:13:06.080 --> 0:13:08.480 what did she do? He's like, she just kept on walking. 0:13:10.000 --> 0:13:12.400 She's pissed, though, Bro, I'm like, Yo, it don't matter. 0:13:12.440 --> 0:13:14.360 We got it. Yo. The next day, so I'm flying 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:17.400 across country right to New York. So I land in 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:22.080 New York off of Red Eye. So it's like six am. 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:26.440 But it's like three am in La y'all. Like I 0:13:26.480 --> 0:13:28.319 take a nap in New York because I'm jet Like 0:13:28.360 --> 0:13:30.640 I wake up like nine am. It's already everywhere on 0:13:31.120 --> 0:13:33.840 like all over the fucking media. About like six seven am, 0:13:33.960 --> 0:13:35.080 it was fucking everywhere. 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:38.960 That's such a weird problem child for real. I wasn't 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:39.480 he eighteen? 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:42.959 It was eighteen. Oh my god, he was eighteen. Yo 0:13:43.040 --> 0:13:44.959 J was knocking him down. Bro, I'm not gonna lie. 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:50.800 Jay hit everything. Bro Jay's hit more. Yo Jay's hit 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:58.000 every bad bitch and in black, in brown American hip 0:13:58.000 --> 0:14:02.800 hop culture. Bro Jay's hit him all. Bro, Interesting Jay's 0:14:02.840 --> 0:14:05.760 hit him all you have, you know, almost Adeny chick. 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:09.440 You can think of who's popping right now in the 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:10.400 female landscape. 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:12.920 Rat Almighty J's been. 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:16.200 There, Almighty J. Almighty Jay's the man. What a list, 0:14:16.320 --> 0:14:16.880 He's the one. 0:14:16.960 --> 0:14:17.920 I can't wait to talk to him. 0:14:17.960 --> 0:14:19.720 And he's still on a run. But now it's just 0:14:19.760 --> 0:14:22.640 like it's way more under wraps because he's under wraps. 0:14:22.960 --> 0:14:25.840 So at what point in time did you uh? Because 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:30.280 obviously there was the YBN split, Corday dropped the YBN 0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:33.600 from his name. Everyone's still cool, you know, everyone's still kosher. 0:14:34.200 --> 0:14:36.000 But like you kind of just dove in with Corda. 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:40.680 So what was like the the like, obviously Corday's fucking 0:14:41.080 --> 0:14:44.640 you know, generationally talented guy's great, great kid. Like what 0:14:44.680 --> 0:14:46.120 was it about Corday that made you want to like 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:49.400 really focus on him as a client. 0:14:50.720 --> 0:14:53.560 Like once I already was working with all three of 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:57.360 the guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was focused. He wanted 0:14:57.400 --> 0:14:59.720 to be great. He wants to be great. He still does. 0:14:59.800 --> 0:15:02.560 But I'm saying, like I noticed that from the very 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:06.200 moment that I started working with Corday, our conversations were 0:15:06.200 --> 0:15:09.320 different than what I was having with Jay and I Miir, 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:13.720 you know, And I mean look to like Jay and 0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:16.360 Amir's defense, Like Namir never like wanted to be like 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:19.560 a professional rapper. Noamir always made music eve when he 0:15:19.600 --> 0:15:22.560 was younger, but like he didn't have like that like 0:15:22.840 --> 0:15:26.360 that bug, you know, like that burning desire to be 0:15:26.960 --> 0:15:29.560 Yeah he wants to be famous, yeah yeah actually yeah, 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:31.440 and he got famous and then it was just like 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:33.320 he's like what the fuck do I do now? And 0:15:33.360 --> 0:15:36.600 everything was happening so fast. Namir always just wanted to 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:38.360 be a kid. He just wanted to be famous while 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:41.600 doing it right. The industry doesn't really allow you to 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:44.120 do that once you have a real demand, like it 0:15:44.120 --> 0:15:48.640 becomes a business. So he struggled with that. Jay always 0:15:48.680 --> 0:15:52.080 just wanted the fun bitches. So like once he achieved that, 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:54.960 once he was successful with that, it was hard to 0:15:55.040 --> 0:15:59.520 keep him focused. Corday always was like he would wake 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:02.400 up and go to sleep just talking about like music, ideas, 0:16:02.560 --> 0:16:04.400 idea and like what's the next step, and like, Yo, 0:16:04.480 --> 0:16:06.520 I did this, I did that. I'm going to meet 0:16:06.520 --> 0:16:09.000 with this person. I was networking with this person, said 0:16:09.040 --> 0:16:10.280 this person hit me up, Yo, what do you think 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:13.160 about this record? Everything was just music music, music, So 0:16:13.240 --> 0:16:14.000 he was focused. 0:16:14.280 --> 0:16:16.320 Was it his idea to do the Jake Cole reply? 0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:18.800 It was. We were living together at the time. He 0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:21.120 was living upstairs in my loft. He came downstairs one morning. 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:24.080 I woke up. He came downstairs and he's like, yo, 0:16:24.680 --> 0:16:27.080 I was thinking, mind you, I never. 0:16:27.040 --> 0:16:28.960 Even heard the Jake Cole nineteen eighty five. 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:33.320 Yeah, I never heard nineteen eighty five. He came downstairs like, yo, 0:16:33.360 --> 0:16:35.440 you know the nineteen eighty five record by Jake Cole. 0:16:35.760 --> 0:16:37.320 I'm like, that's why I was a new project. I 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:40.280 ain't heard it. He's like, well, basically, it's like he's 0:16:40.320 --> 0:16:43.680 touching upon like how this new era of youth and 0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:45.600 rappers and kind of like what you would consider me 0:16:45.640 --> 0:16:48.240 the sound cloud era. He's like, my generation, how everyone's 0:16:48.280 --> 0:16:50.120 kind of lost and a lot of the mistakes were 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:53.360 making they're not going to last, you know. I feel 0:16:53.400 --> 0:16:55.120 like making a response for that on behalf of like 0:16:55.160 --> 0:16:58.360 my peers and my generation and the youth explaining to 0:16:58.480 --> 0:17:02.800 him and even just those who represent that older generational mentality, 0:17:03.480 --> 0:17:05.320 like this is why we do this. Why don't you 0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:08.800 looking at from our perspective? And I'm like, sounds dope, 0:17:09.600 --> 0:17:11.879 but I never heard the original, so I'm just supporting. 0:17:11.960 --> 0:17:14.560 H'm like, go do it. When he came back and 0:17:14.560 --> 0:17:17.000 played me the record, I still never heard the gen con. 0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:21.680 I was just like, Yo, this is wild. The narration, Yeah, 0:17:21.920 --> 0:17:23.840 I was just like the narration of it is bridging, 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:27.280 like this separation in this gap that was becoming like 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:30.960 really really obviously that talent was all aware between traditional. 0:17:30.520 --> 0:17:32.960 Right of course, yeah that was like SoundCloud shit, and 0:17:32.960 --> 0:17:35.120 it was like yeah yeah, And I mean there wasn't 0:17:35.119 --> 0:17:36.280 even anybody who was doing real. 0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:38.360 Rode from the new school at the time, nobody, nobody 0:17:38.440 --> 0:17:40.080 was making traditional hip. 0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:40.480 Hop for sure. 0:17:40.560 --> 0:17:40.760 Yeah. 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:43.119 He was like, wait, this kid's eighteen and he's fucking 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:45.520 rapping over eminem Yeah. 0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:48.320 Yeah, So I was like that all that collectively kind 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:51.000 of was what made me really really focused on cord 0:17:51.200 --> 0:17:53.439 because I have a job to do, and quite frankly, 0:17:53.480 --> 0:17:56.840 like people in my position, we empower those who allow 0:17:56.960 --> 0:18:01.560 us to do our job and who see their who 0:18:01.640 --> 0:18:02.680 take their job seriously. 0:18:02.920 --> 0:18:04.919 What is like for people who don't know what a 0:18:04.960 --> 0:18:07.840 manager does in it? Like a role like yourself? What 0:18:08.000 --> 0:18:10.200 is like your duties as a manager, like for people 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:12.320 who are interested in maybe getting into the music industry 0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:13.600 or you know. 0:18:14.560 --> 0:18:20.080 I think that the job description itself has a few 0:18:21.320 --> 0:18:26.480 kind of unwavering core responsibilities for everybody, right, no matter 0:18:26.520 --> 0:18:29.400 what client you represent, because it does vary every clients, 0:18:31.119 --> 0:18:35.800 but managing relationships. Managing relationships first and foremost. Right, you 0:18:35.800 --> 0:18:38.360 don't even have to like your manager. If you're doing 0:18:38.400 --> 0:18:41.040 your job as an artist and your manager is good 0:18:41.080 --> 0:18:44.880 at managing relationships, you guys can be extremely successful together, 0:18:45.760 --> 0:18:47.880 you know what I'm saying. Because as an artist, it's 0:18:47.880 --> 0:18:51.439 like you're the centerpiece, Like you're you're the engine of 0:18:51.440 --> 0:18:54.399 the vehicle, Like what you do determines if it goes up. 0:18:55.119 --> 0:18:57.680 If your manager is good at managing relationships, he's likable, 0:18:57.960 --> 0:19:02.400 he's dependable, he's charismatic, he's genuine, he's friendly. He does 0:19:02.440 --> 0:19:06.600 good business by thinking about what the other party is 0:19:06.600 --> 0:19:08.720 getting out of every equation, not just where you guys 0:19:08.760 --> 0:19:11.040 are getting, so that people see him as fair. You 0:19:11.080 --> 0:19:14.960 guys can be great together. That's first. Second, I think 0:19:15.040 --> 0:19:18.879 that your manager has to have if you're managing a 0:19:19.320 --> 0:19:23.119 this is difference, right, Managing a rapper is different if 0:19:23.160 --> 0:19:27.879 you're managing an artist, right, then I think that there 0:19:27.880 --> 0:19:31.840 has to be a vision attached to it because there 0:19:32.359 --> 0:19:36.320 has to be a long term goal, not just near 0:19:36.440 --> 0:19:41.920 sighted accomplishments as the focus when you think of rappers, right, 0:19:42.040 --> 0:19:44.439 and this isn't to discredit anybody, but this is just 0:19:44.520 --> 0:19:49.399 like if this is just a fact, there's country artists, 0:19:49.960 --> 0:19:57.239 pop artists, reggae artists, hip hop artists. Right when they 0:19:57.280 --> 0:20:00.840 say rappers, it's kind of because like rap is the 0:20:00.880 --> 0:20:03.920 evolution of hip hop. It kind of created its own 0:20:03.960 --> 0:20:07.240 image almost like its own genre. It's like it came 0:20:07.320 --> 0:20:12.119 kind of with the evolution of production, right, like not 0:20:12.119 --> 0:20:15.800 necessarily baselines, but like eight o eights and scent pads 0:20:15.840 --> 0:20:19.159 and different things like that. And then the concepts in 0:20:19.200 --> 0:20:21.800 the subject matter of what rap talks about. Hip hop 0:20:21.840 --> 0:20:24.919 stems from like black and brown people coming from like 0:20:25.000 --> 0:20:29.840 inner cities in just places in America where your voices 0:20:30.280 --> 0:20:32.800 couldn't be heard, it didn't fit a certain political statue 0:20:32.800 --> 0:20:36.920 of economic stature. So through breakdancing and graffiti and song form, 0:20:36.920 --> 0:20:40.280 people would listen now DJ yeah, people would listen now. 0:20:40.480 --> 0:20:42.280 But then rap is the evolution that where it's like 0:20:42.320 --> 0:20:47.000 it represents black and brown people who have now achieved 0:20:47.119 --> 0:20:49.160 those things that we didn't have. Now now you have well, 0:20:49.480 --> 0:20:52.240 now you have money. Now you have a political stature. 0:20:52.640 --> 0:20:54.760 So it's like we can talk about different subject matters 0:20:54.760 --> 0:20:57.600 like cars and wealth and all these different glorified things 0:20:57.680 --> 0:20:59.960 we never used to see raps like the El loose 0:21:00.119 --> 0:21:02.280 and hip hop. So I feel like, if you're managing 0:21:02.359 --> 0:21:05.520 rappers the landscape of what that lifestyle entails. 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I had them say 0:24:31.359 --> 0:24:31.960 yeah it was the gap? 0:24:32.200 --> 0:24:37.080 Yeah yeah, But like it's like not all like I think, well, 0:24:37.119 --> 0:24:40.040 I think most people, like most artists or rappers would 0:24:40.040 --> 0:24:41.760 be like how much is it? Yes? 0:24:42.119 --> 0:24:44.120 Yeah, yeah, some gap on you know what I mean. 0:24:44.240 --> 0:24:46.240 So I think that the responsibilities coming out to just 0:24:46.280 --> 0:24:49.399 like having like a long term vision for where you 0:24:49.440 --> 0:24:51.760 guys want to go, because now it's kind of going 0:24:51.840 --> 0:24:53.959 to serve as your moral compass that allows you to 0:24:54.000 --> 0:24:57.959 know what's right and wrong for you, for your business 0:24:58.000 --> 0:25:02.080 and for the image of the artists. Again, just focusing 0:25:02.119 --> 0:25:03.560 on like the low term and goal and not near 0:25:03.720 --> 0:25:08.880 set of accomplishments, right, And then I think I think 0:25:09.000 --> 0:25:15.479 just like yeah, bro, just no, only had knowingly how 0:25:15.480 --> 0:25:20.199 to work cohesively within the team, right, So your representation 0:25:20.240 --> 0:25:23.359 of the artists. So it's not just managing relationships, it's 0:25:23.440 --> 0:25:25.960 understanding the functionality of teams. So if it's a label, 0:25:25.960 --> 0:25:28.080 for example, you got no the difference between your A 0:25:28.119 --> 0:25:30.359 and R. You got no difference between that role and 0:25:30.400 --> 0:25:34.840 your product manager, your admin the executive vice president of 0:25:34.880 --> 0:25:39.080 A and R versus the ones who do research your 0:25:39.320 --> 0:25:45.280 music video commissioner, you know, the legal department, the president 0:25:45.800 --> 0:25:49.000 versus the CEO, you know versus. 0:25:50.119 --> 0:25:53.360 You know, because you're kind of like you're also kind 0:25:53.359 --> 0:25:55.520 of the liaison too, between him and the label, right 0:25:55.560 --> 0:25:57.359 when it comes to certain communication. 0:25:57.040 --> 0:25:59.119 Like, yeah, you're kind of the liaison between the artists 0:25:59.119 --> 0:26:01.520 and everything. Yeah, ultimately, and that's why it's so important 0:26:01.520 --> 0:26:02.960 for an artist and a manager to be on the 0:26:02.960 --> 0:26:07.080 same page, just psychologically and also in terms of like 0:26:07.400 --> 0:26:10.720 the orientation of your goals, because you're speaking on their behalf. 0:26:10.720 --> 0:26:12.120 If you guys are on the same page, you're gonna 0:26:12.119 --> 0:26:14.960 have a lot of false narrative conversations on their behalf. 0:26:15.000 --> 0:26:18.000 And eventually those types of convos and narratives get back 0:26:18.040 --> 0:26:20.080 to the artists, and that's an artists say, wait, why 0:26:20.119 --> 0:26:22.480 didn't I know about this? You didn't tell me this? 0:26:22.520 --> 0:26:25.639 The manager's having conversations behind my back. Yeah, yeah, all 0:26:25.680 --> 0:26:26.080 kinds of shit. 0:26:26.200 --> 0:26:29.359 Yeah, So like when the conversations represent the artists best, 0:26:29.800 --> 0:26:33.440 those conversations never get back to the artists because it's fluid, 0:26:33.680 --> 0:26:34.640 you know what I'm saying. 0:26:34.440 --> 0:26:35.920 Like, transparency is important. 0:26:36.119 --> 0:26:38.240 Yeah, and when something's wrong, you know, like you know, 0:26:38.320 --> 0:26:41.199 it's like a DJ and also an entrepreneur and you 0:26:41.200 --> 0:26:43.439 know many other things. If you have relationships now like 0:26:43.440 --> 0:26:46.320 little artists, if you're talking to their managers, you know, 0:26:46.359 --> 0:26:48.280 where it sells is coming from the manager or not 0:26:48.320 --> 0:26:48.680 the artist. 0:26:48.760 --> 0:26:50.639 Oh for sure, it happens a lot because. 0:26:50.359 --> 0:26:53.760 The manager is not it's not upholding the representation of 0:26:53.800 --> 0:26:57.400 the artists that you know personally. So when it's clear 0:26:57.440 --> 0:27:00.600 and it's concise, it feels consistent in or. 0:27:00.640 --> 0:27:02.280 It'll feel like There'll be times I'll be talking to 0:27:02.320 --> 0:27:06.200 like some guys managers and I'll be like, dude, listen, man, 0:27:06.960 --> 0:27:09.879 there's guy's clearly putting a whole out on top of 0:27:09.920 --> 0:27:12.960 whatever he's quoting me so he can put it in 0:27:13.000 --> 0:27:14.879 his pocket. But like, it happens. 0:27:15.160 --> 0:27:16.919 And I think that's the other thing too, dude, Like 0:27:17.000 --> 0:27:22.720 to be real with you, Like again, rap is different 0:27:22.760 --> 0:27:25.280 because like it's just such a lucrative industry where there's 0:27:25.320 --> 0:27:26.000 so much money. 0:27:27.119 --> 0:27:29.880 Yeah, and it's a cash heavy business. So he says, Yo, 0:27:29.960 --> 0:27:33.399 I could tell this promoter twenty five and get my 0:27:33.520 --> 0:27:36.000 artists twenty Yeah, for sure. 0:27:36.200 --> 0:27:38.159 But when you're dealing with almost any other genre and 0:27:38.200 --> 0:27:39.120 it like that you like. 0:27:39.080 --> 0:27:40.600 That was just yeah, that was just happening with a 0:27:40.600 --> 0:27:43.639 big artists who's a female where she found out that 0:27:43.760 --> 0:27:47.760 like she was like whoever she was doing parties with, 0:27:48.080 --> 0:27:50.239 Like I think it was her road manager was just 0:27:50.280 --> 0:27:51.080 like taking. 0:27:51.640 --> 0:27:54.040 Yeah, lots of bread off the top. Yeah, And I 0:27:54.080 --> 0:27:59.280 really do believe that, like money is what focusing on money, 0:27:59.280 --> 0:28:03.159 putting money for is what ruins businesses. Like you have 0:28:03.240 --> 0:28:04.119 to focus on. 0:28:04.160 --> 0:28:06.960 Purpose and like all that shit will come. 0:28:07.359 --> 0:28:08.880 It does as long as you don't put it first. 0:28:09.200 --> 0:28:10.760 Because at the end of the day, no one pays 0:28:10.800 --> 0:28:13.560 you money because you want money, right. People pay you 0:28:13.600 --> 0:28:16.639 for a service or a byproduct that you're selling. So 0:28:16.880 --> 0:28:19.880 if you focus on the quality of your service where 0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:22.520 people feel like they either can't get it anywhere else 0:28:22.880 --> 0:28:25.359 or that you just do it better than most. 0:28:26.960 --> 0:28:30.200 That's what The New Sun's owner just made news because 0:28:30.200 --> 0:28:33.240 he u the Sons had like a deal with like 0:28:33.400 --> 0:28:35.760 Bally Sports for the last like five years, so if 0:28:35.760 --> 0:28:38.440 you didn't have cable, you can watch Suns games in Phoenix. Yeah, 0:28:38.560 --> 0:28:40.560 and he's like, fuck that, I want my ship to 0:28:40.560 --> 0:28:43.880 be free everywhere. Yeah, So now the Sun's like you 0:28:43.920 --> 0:28:47.200 can watch like I think starting next season, Like, wherever 0:28:47.200 --> 0:28:49.320 you're at, you could either stream Suns games for free, 0:28:49.360 --> 0:28:51.360 you don't have to have a league pass, or if 0:28:51.400 --> 0:28:54.000 you're in Arizona, it's just on the fucking normal channel three. 0:28:54.120 --> 0:28:56.360 So like, and he said, I just heard an interview. 0:28:56.400 --> 0:28:58.120 He was like, I don't give a few He's like, 0:28:58.120 --> 0:29:00.560 I give a fuck about the fans. He's like, because 0:29:00.920 --> 0:29:03.160 like the short term money doesn't matter, like I'm gonna 0:29:03.160 --> 0:29:03.920 own this team forever. 0:29:04.080 --> 0:29:04.280 Yeah. 0:29:04.760 --> 0:29:07.000 Other thing to remember to build diehard fans. I want 0:29:07.240 --> 0:29:09.280 the more people who watch the game, the more Suns 0:29:09.320 --> 0:29:10.800 fans we have, Like what are we doing here? 0:29:10.960 --> 0:29:12.719 And the other thing to a member is right like 0:29:12.920 --> 0:29:17.840 and I'll draw a comparison in lineage what I'm about 0:29:17.880 --> 0:29:20.640 to say, even with sports, like you brought the Suns. 0:29:21.360 --> 0:29:23.480 I'm a Celtics fan, right, Go look at the Celtics 0:29:23.480 --> 0:29:26.120 five years ago. Go get the Suns five years ago. Right. 0:29:26.480 --> 0:29:29.440 Look at any rapper, any hip hop artists, any pop art, 0:29:29.480 --> 0:29:32.840 just any act. Go look at any corporate business, any brand. 0:29:33.040 --> 0:29:38.080 It takes five years to build a strong in identifiable business. 0:29:38.320 --> 0:29:40.600 Or Branda because five years ago they went to the 0:29:40.600 --> 0:29:41.480 Eastern Conference finals. 0:29:41.480 --> 0:29:43.640 Though go look at what who in the Celtics. 0:29:44.400 --> 0:29:45.680 That was the year that Kyrie was hurting and they 0:29:45.680 --> 0:29:49.200 went to Thestern Conference Finals. Really mm hmm, I was 0:29:49.240 --> 0:29:49.920 twenty eighteen. 0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:51.240 You went to the Eastern Conference Finals. 0:29:51.400 --> 0:29:54.000 Yeah, and lost to Lebron James. 0:29:54.200 --> 0:29:57.120 Right, but well, in any case, go look at the place. 0:29:57.240 --> 0:29:59.840 No, no, no, but nobody expected that and it was 0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:03.840 kind of like a it felt like it felt like 0:30:03.880 --> 0:30:05.840 when the Hawks made it to the Eastern Conference Finals 0:30:05.880 --> 0:30:08.640 two years ago, nobody was like well, and also I think, no, 0:30:08.720 --> 0:30:09.760 the Celtics have built. 0:30:09.840 --> 0:30:11.600 My point is we have a team that belongs to 0:30:11.680 --> 0:30:13.520 us now, though Kyrie was a traded player. 0:30:13.320 --> 0:30:17.960 Like everybody's drafted, everybody's Marcus Smart, Jason Tatum and those. 0:30:18.120 --> 0:30:21.440 Until time to developed those plays. I'm saying, squad, it's 0:30:21.440 --> 0:30:26.000 felt like Robert Williams like four years of Jason Tatum. 0:30:25.720 --> 0:30:29.800 And six or seven years ago, but it's like, what 0:30:29.840 --> 0:30:31.760 the fuck is Danny Ainge's doing with all these picks? 0:30:31.840 --> 0:30:36.200 Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, Devin book. So my point is 0:30:36.240 --> 0:30:39.240 like it's the same thing with artists, bro, Like even 0:30:39.240 --> 0:30:42.320 if you see like a success that seems to just 0:30:42.320 --> 0:30:44.240 like come out of nowhere, like why be in the mirror, 0:30:44.480 --> 0:30:47.240 like in the like a yeat or something like that. 0:30:47.960 --> 0:30:49.680 Five years is going to tell you where it's really yet, 0:30:49.720 --> 0:30:53.040 it's either gonna tail off because you didn't through the 0:30:53.080 --> 0:30:55.440 necessary things, break by break to make sure that you 0:30:55.480 --> 0:30:59.680 were building something sustainable, or it's going to completely start 0:31:00.520 --> 0:31:04.200 to catapult an in calling because you did all the 0:31:04.240 --> 0:31:07.080 groundwork to build something sustainable. Now you're seeing the foods 0:31:07.080 --> 0:31:09.680 in your labor pay off. So I think that as 0:31:09.720 --> 0:31:11.960 a manager like you have to you have to be 0:31:12.080 --> 0:31:14.600 focused on that because ain't nobody bigger than the program. Right, 0:31:14.720 --> 0:31:17.600 There's no such thing as elevators. They go up just 0:31:17.640 --> 0:31:20.080 as fast as they come down. You gotta take the 0:31:20.080 --> 0:31:22.400 stairs because the only way that you can fall off 0:31:22.520 --> 0:31:25.480 we literally infinatively is if you choose to. You gotta 0:31:25.520 --> 0:31:27.560 go back down those steps. You have to make terrible 0:31:27.560 --> 0:31:30.360 decisions on your behalf that sends you back down them. 0:31:30.760 --> 0:31:34.400 But you built it yourself, break by britt, so at 0:31:34.480 --> 0:31:35.480 least you have that option. 0:31:36.160 --> 0:31:37.959 I think that's like obviously, what you guys have been 0:31:37.960 --> 0:31:40.520 building with Corde, it's like it's a fan base, it's 0:31:40.560 --> 0:31:44.280 a twenty year plan. It's not a you know, fucking 0:31:44.440 --> 0:31:47.080 short sighted I just when I think of Cordea, I'm like, well, 0:31:47.080 --> 0:31:49.080 Cornea will be here, and I feel like he'll be 0:31:49.120 --> 0:31:50.760 here forever. So it's like, you know, a lot of 0:31:50.760 --> 0:31:52.360 these guys, I can't say that about Yeah. 0:31:52.400 --> 0:31:54.320 And the hardest part for the artists, I'm not. 0:31:54.240 --> 0:31:56.200 Sure anyone's gonna care about y Eat in three years. 0:31:56.360 --> 0:31:58.600 I could be wrong, I could be wrong. 0:31:59.080 --> 0:32:00.000 I'm this guy's crazy. 0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:03.520 I just don't think anyone's gonna care. Personally, seems like 0:32:03.520 --> 0:32:03.960 a nice. 0:32:03.920 --> 0:32:05.480 I love you. You know what I like about ship, Leff, 0:32:05.600 --> 0:32:08.360 You get to just say what the fuck you want. 0:32:08.400 --> 0:32:12.880 Nobody can fire his music's fucking terrible, but if someone likes. 0:32:12.760 --> 0:32:14.720 It, I like, you know what I like? You know 0:32:14.800 --> 0:32:15.280 the thing that. 0:32:15.400 --> 0:32:18.040 Somebody likes Yeat, somebody likes Playboy CARDI all this ship 0:32:18.160 --> 0:32:20.240 is just going over my head. I'm under my head. 0:32:20.280 --> 0:32:22.320 What I think is super important too. 0:32:23.320 --> 0:32:28.200 It all likes Yeat heat sucking piece, yeh yeah, oh 0:32:28.240 --> 0:32:29.840 this guy, this guy's a fucking but. 0:32:29.760 --> 0:32:31.760 You know what, I think it's super important. I think 0:32:31.800 --> 0:32:33.400 this is so important. I think this is the fucking 0:32:33.400 --> 0:32:35.800 reason why we have so many trolls. Also because it's 0:32:35.840 --> 0:32:38.360 like little white kids who don't know anything about. 0:32:38.360 --> 0:32:41.920 They're gonna grow up. They're gonna be twenty one and 0:32:41.960 --> 0:32:44.640 they're gonna be like, I'm a little old for this 0:32:44.760 --> 0:32:45.240 yeat ship. 0:32:45.400 --> 0:32:47.520 Oh yeah, and then they're gonna still be posted on 0:32:47.600 --> 0:32:49.960 like that, no id. But like oh my grandma I said, 0:32:50.480 --> 0:32:54.840 the reality is this conceptual music that's made with intent 0:32:55.480 --> 0:32:58.840 and purpose. It's always gonna outlast the ladder. And the 0:32:58.840 --> 0:33:00.800 reason why is because he's young kids who adapt to 0:33:00.840 --> 0:33:03.680 shit so quickly. They're young minded, they don't have responsibilities 0:33:03.680 --> 0:33:05.200 and not going through real things. But as they get 0:33:05.240 --> 0:33:08.160 older and they have bills, they're going through real relationships. 0:33:07.680 --> 0:33:10.200 They're not gonna still want the same microwavable shit. 0:33:10.320 --> 0:33:12.600 Yeah. They need things that get them through the times 0:33:12.640 --> 0:33:16.080 and relate to them during the times that they're dealing with, 0:33:16.120 --> 0:33:17.800 and who they're gonna turn to the things that they 0:33:17.800 --> 0:33:21.040 once criticized and turned a cheek to that they didn't 0:33:21.120 --> 0:33:23.560 understand at the time. And that's why you have the 0:33:23.600 --> 0:33:26.040 Scissors and the janni Cos and the Lizzos and the 0:33:26.120 --> 0:33:27.160 Kendricks and the j Coles. 0:33:27.160 --> 0:33:29.800 They outlast everybody for sure, because it's quality. Yeah, I 0:33:29.840 --> 0:33:30.560 mean I always say that. 0:33:30.520 --> 0:33:34.400 Because people are always gonna go through the same troubles, tribulations, 0:33:34.640 --> 0:33:37.200 life experiences over and over. They just have to reach 0:33:37.200 --> 0:33:39.840 a certain age when it clicks in, and some people 0:33:39.920 --> 0:33:41.920 hit it earlier than others. But it's gonna click no 0:33:41.920 --> 0:33:43.040 matter what. It's inevitable. 0:33:43.400 --> 0:33:47.400 How do you see AI affecting what you do and 0:33:47.600 --> 0:33:49.120 or just the music industry as a whole. 0:33:50.280 --> 0:33:52.560 I mean, bro, you know it's crazy cord. They put 0:33:52.560 --> 0:33:56.880 me onto this website where I forget the name of it, 0:33:56.920 --> 0:33:59.360 but like you can type in celebrities and you can 0:33:59.440 --> 0:34:01.160 ask questions, is about those celebrities? 0:34:01.520 --> 0:34:05.000 And I take the question is it chat GBT? 0:34:05.800 --> 0:34:07.160 I forget that one. 0:34:07.200 --> 0:34:09.160 Yeah, that's the main one. Yeah. 0:34:09.200 --> 0:34:11.480 I typed the question about an artist and I said, like, 0:34:12.840 --> 0:34:15.000 what can this artist do? I put the artist's name, 0:34:15.280 --> 0:34:20.080 I said, what can this artist do to elevate their career? Yo? 0:34:20.320 --> 0:34:23.719 The four responses that came back were so fucking on 0:34:23.800 --> 0:34:25.560 point that I'm like, yo, A I can put mantages 0:34:25.600 --> 0:34:28.360 out of business. I just can't show up physically. 0:34:28.440 --> 0:34:29.640 I feel like they can make it. I feel like 0:34:29.640 --> 0:34:31.680 they're gonna end up like someone's going to figure out 0:34:31.680 --> 0:34:35.040 how to make AI produce records. There's going to be 0:34:35.040 --> 0:34:36.920 an app where like you could just be like I 0:34:36.960 --> 0:34:40.040 want to beat that sounds like this and uses this 0:34:40.160 --> 0:34:42.520 riff and then they're just gonna make a beat like 0:34:42.760 --> 0:34:43.280 it's coming. 0:34:43.640 --> 0:34:47.160 But you know the problem with AI, AI can't AI 0:34:47.360 --> 0:34:54.040 is predicated purely on data and the pure injection and 0:34:54.160 --> 0:34:57.319 consumption of analytics. It's never going to be able to 0:34:57.320 --> 0:35:00.600 form an opinion. So and we we're a lot of 0:35:00.600 --> 0:35:04.080 work where nobody has the answers. It's it's just a current. 0:35:04.160 --> 0:35:07.160 It flows and it changes and tomorrow this can be 0:35:07.239 --> 0:35:08.840 a trend and the next day can be a trend 0:35:08.920 --> 0:35:10.440 and the only way to keep up with that is if you, 0:35:10.560 --> 0:35:12.440 as a human being are actually in tune or something. 0:35:12.520 --> 0:35:15.160 And that's what we're always gonna have over technology is 0:35:15.960 --> 0:35:19.080 free thought and opinion. Free thought opinion, and you're never 0:35:19.120 --> 0:35:21.239 gonna be able you can put a price on that 0:35:21.280 --> 0:35:23.439 of value, because that's why we all have a job, 0:35:24.040 --> 0:35:27.719 you know what I'm saying, Because to certain degrees, we're 0:35:27.760 --> 0:35:32.200 all experts in some way, shape or form, some more 0:35:32.239 --> 0:35:35.200 than others, some lesson others. But like we're doing this professionally, 0:35:35.719 --> 0:35:38.040 you know what I'm saying. So if not experts, we're 0:35:38.080 --> 0:35:41.440 definitely professionals. AI is not a professional it's the consumption 0:35:41.520 --> 0:35:45.000 and injection of that and data. Data can be wrong. 0:35:45.200 --> 0:35:47.880 Machines are always wrong at some point, And who you're 0:35:47.880 --> 0:35:49.839 gonna blame, Like an artist at some point is gonna 0:35:49.880 --> 0:35:51.480 sit there and look at it, like you you're putting 0:35:51.480 --> 0:35:54.360 my fucking career. Yeah, you're putting my career in the 0:35:54.400 --> 0:35:56.839 hands of technology. Like what would you. 0:35:56.840 --> 0:35:58.920 If you're like a listen, there's an up and coming 0:35:59.040 --> 0:36:04.160 artist they're fucking in Saint Louis and they're like, the 0:36:04.239 --> 0:36:06.200 guy got a local buzz. They don't have a manager. 0:36:07.320 --> 0:36:11.680 What would be a fair percentage for that up and 0:36:11.719 --> 0:36:16.160 coming artist to give up to a to a new manager? 0:36:16.320 --> 0:36:17.160 What would be fair? 0:36:17.320 --> 0:36:18.799 Yeah, Like, cause you know, we always hear about people 0:36:18.800 --> 0:36:21.160 getting taken advantage of. We always hear, like, you know, 0:36:21.200 --> 0:36:24.719 they're shitty production deals that happen. There's like if you're like, like, 0:36:24.760 --> 0:36:27.239 what would be like a standard fair percentage for a 0:36:27.320 --> 0:36:30.560 new artist to give to a manager who maybe has 0:36:30.560 --> 0:36:33.040 some experience to kind of without them getting kind of 0:36:33.080 --> 0:36:37.480 like bent over, you know, because I hear some crazy. 0:36:37.200 --> 0:36:39.840 Shit percentage artists to give a brand new manager. 0:36:40.080 --> 0:36:41.959 Yeah, no, no, not a brand new. Like let's say 0:36:43.360 --> 0:36:49.799 rapper X has thirty thousand monthly listening is running around 0:36:49.840 --> 0:36:52.800 whatever hometown getting five hundred to one thousand dollars to do. 0:36:52.840 --> 0:36:54.400 A club has a song kind of doing all right 0:36:54.440 --> 0:36:58.160 on TikTok no management, someone approaches them, what would you 0:36:58.200 --> 0:37:03.279 say is like a fair uh number that that they 0:37:03.360 --> 0:37:05.960 could get what they want without getting taken advantage of, 0:37:07.040 --> 0:37:09.319 because what is the industry standard between like ten twenty, 0:37:09.400 --> 0:37:10.880 fifteen fifteen. 0:37:10.480 --> 0:37:13.239 Okay, fifteen, ten minimum twenty on the high if you're 0:37:13.239 --> 0:37:16.600 doing ten, you should usually have a partner because then 0:37:16.600 --> 0:37:18.800 you're ever doing ten your co manager because then like 0:37:18.840 --> 0:37:20.719 both you gouts split ten and the equals the max, 0:37:20.719 --> 0:37:22.240 which is twenty twenty. 0:37:23.040 --> 0:37:23.680 You gotta do a lot. 0:37:23.719 --> 0:37:25.960 You gotta be you got to be bringing a lot 0:37:26.040 --> 0:37:27.120 and a lot in. 0:37:27.360 --> 0:37:29.560 So between ten and twenty, depending on the cerch. 0:37:29.480 --> 0:37:33.080 Fifteen is safe because like if, for whatever reason that 0:37:33.160 --> 0:37:36.520 hopefully is fair and justifiable, the artist decides that they 0:37:36.520 --> 0:37:38.520 want to decrease your percentage, there's wigga room for you 0:37:38.600 --> 0:37:42.120 to come down between from fifteen to ten is the floor, 0:37:42.640 --> 0:37:44.560 but also there's wigga room for you as a manager 0:37:44.600 --> 0:37:47.840 where you can may justify going up if you're just 0:37:47.880 --> 0:37:52.359 fucking crushing it, you know what I mean. There's also 0:37:52.360 --> 0:37:54.080 a Wiga room where, like you know, you may want 0:37:54.080 --> 0:37:55.400 to bring the day to day manager and give them 0:37:55.400 --> 0:37:58.200 five percent so that you can grow as a manager. 0:37:58.400 --> 0:38:00.759 You can accomplish more things with your time instead of 0:38:00.800 --> 0:38:04.240 being spread thin, and so the artist has someone around 0:38:04.560 --> 0:38:07.160 all the time to be able to handle the small nuts, 0:38:07.160 --> 0:38:09.879 small that you're overqualified to be able to handle. Even 0:38:09.920 --> 0:38:12.520 though you can handle it. We only have so many 0:38:12.520 --> 0:38:13.920 hours in the day. Where do you want to apply 0:38:13.960 --> 0:38:15.400 your focus? You know, you should be doing on the 0:38:15.440 --> 0:38:18.360 things that only you are capable of doing around that 0:38:18.440 --> 0:38:23.160 artist and bringing somebody else in who's qualified to consider 0:38:23.200 --> 0:38:27.480 themselves a manager, but not quite for a percentage where 0:38:27.560 --> 0:38:29.800 the artist is kicking more out of the person. 0:38:29.880 --> 0:38:32.080 Are you how involved are you with the high level 0:38:32.680 --> 0:38:33.160 high level? 0:38:33.440 --> 0:38:37.120 I mean me and Corday like we're partners, which is yeah, 0:38:37.160 --> 0:38:38.960 that's his brand, it's his label. We just did a 0:38:38.960 --> 0:38:40.400 pub deal with Posts. 0:38:40.160 --> 0:38:42.279 So he just I mean I just saw like a 0:38:42.320 --> 0:38:43.400 high level Puma. 0:38:43.120 --> 0:38:45.240 That dropped right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, we. 0:38:46.920 --> 0:38:47.560 There they are. 0:38:48.360 --> 0:38:49.480 I mean I've been wearing them. 0:38:49.360 --> 0:38:51.279 But those are sick. I don't have any, but they're nice. 0:38:51.680 --> 0:38:53.040 I thought I put you on the list for him. 0:38:53.480 --> 0:38:54.520 No, I'm not on any lists. 0:38:54.600 --> 0:38:56.719 Yeah, we've been with Puma for four years. Shout out boom. 0:38:56.840 --> 0:39:01.879 We've we actually have the longest current activity with Puma. Yeah, 0:39:01.960 --> 0:39:06.600 of any of their music artists. That's big indoor seas. 0:39:07.120 --> 0:39:09.680 Uh so you know it was. It was something that 0:39:09.680 --> 0:39:11.560 we were working up for two years, between the designs, 0:39:11.560 --> 0:39:13.759 the business of it, the roll out, the planning and shit. 0:39:14.160 --> 0:39:17.120 But yeah, it's dope. We did a high level Puma 0:39:18.120 --> 0:39:22.920 capsule clothing collab and it went through nationwide distribution and 0:39:22.960 --> 0:39:25.759 foot lockers all throughout the country, even in Puerto Rico, 0:39:25.800 --> 0:39:30.000 which was tight. Yeah, that was tight. So, I mean 0:39:30.400 --> 0:39:35.440 we're just focusing on making like small strategic moves in 0:39:35.520 --> 0:39:37.520 terms of like the collapse we do because it's really 0:39:37.520 --> 0:39:40.680 early still the brands two years ago. Cordet's been in 0:39:40.680 --> 0:39:42.400 the music industry for four and a half years. So 0:39:42.440 --> 0:39:44.759 as the artist gets bigger, everything around them does as well. 0:39:45.000 --> 0:39:46.760 So we're on the rush to try to like explode 0:39:46.760 --> 0:39:48.560 the brand. We just want to start building the story 0:39:49.280 --> 0:39:50.840 in terms of like where you see it, who we 0:39:50.880 --> 0:39:56.080 align with. So it's sexy, it makes sense. And you know, 0:39:56.160 --> 0:39:59.200 as we continue to grow, as he continues to grow, 0:39:59.440 --> 0:40:01.800 the brand will with it. 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It ain't fun though, because it's like, you know 0:43:01.320 --> 0:43:04.200 me bodyguard is like just like level it, like yo, 0:43:04.280 --> 0:43:06.480 come on, yo, like yo, we're just trying to do this, 0:43:06.560 --> 0:43:09.160 Like can y'all move? I don't know, you just cheat 0:43:09.160 --> 0:43:12.120 people with respect, you know, people always reciprocated in return. 0:43:12.200 --> 0:43:14.239 You know. Bodyguards ain't out there for that. Then they're 0:43:14.280 --> 0:43:17.480 like look intimidating, be intimidating, neutralized. But when I first started, 0:43:17.480 --> 0:43:20.319 when I mere unfortunately we couldn't afford to have like 0:43:20.360 --> 0:43:24.040 a professional bodyguard on retainer, so like I wasn't really 0:43:24.080 --> 0:43:28.560 the bodyguard. I was just, like I guess, like the 0:43:28.560 --> 0:43:31.480 big brother, a parental figure who was just like moving 0:43:31.560 --> 0:43:34.600 him around as such. Right, And and this is like 0:43:34.640 --> 0:43:36.920 in the very early stages, like in the first few months, 0:43:37.320 --> 0:43:39.640 you know what I'm saying. It was mad unsettling though, 0:43:39.640 --> 0:43:42.279 because I'm trying to do business and like do my job, 0:43:42.320 --> 0:43:43.719 and then I also have to be like having my 0:43:43.760 --> 0:43:45.960 head on swift. We're looking at like who's looking and 0:43:46.000 --> 0:43:48.279 watching because he folked a lot of negative energy. Bro, 0:43:48.360 --> 0:43:50.320 he's talking about guns and shooting people and killing. 0:43:50.080 --> 0:43:53.759 The music video. Yeah, first time I met him, I 0:43:53.800 --> 0:43:54.960 was like, Bro, you're a good kid. 0:43:56.600 --> 0:43:57.320 You're a sweetheart. 0:43:57.360 --> 0:43:59.160 I was like, I was like, bro, you're a good kid. 0:43:59.480 --> 0:44:02.560 Like so, like that type of energy. Had a lot 0:44:02.560 --> 0:44:04.520 of other young niggas pulling up, And it's always the 0:44:04.520 --> 0:44:06.480 young niggas in every city who everyone's shooting and doing 0:44:06.520 --> 0:44:08.520 dumb shit because they have all that time in their hands, right, 0:44:08.560 --> 0:44:10.680 you know, So those are the That was the shit 0:44:10.719 --> 0:44:12.839 I was dealing with early on, was like looking at 0:44:12.840 --> 0:44:16.040 the looking at the eyes of like five hooded up 0:44:16.400 --> 0:44:19.640 sixteen year old is watching our sprint van pull up, 0:44:19.719 --> 0:44:22.080 or looking at him in the crowd, not cheering, not celebrating, 0:44:22.160 --> 0:44:25.000 not joining in on the crowd interaction. They're just there 0:44:25.080 --> 0:44:26.560 just to talk shit and say fun. Why be in 0:44:26.600 --> 0:44:29.360 at the end of the performance? So Jesus, yeah, it 0:44:29.360 --> 0:44:30.840 was a wild time. It was fun though, because like 0:44:30.880 --> 0:44:32.640 at the end of the day, it's like, even though 0:44:32.680 --> 0:44:34.640 shit does get real, I have no choice but to 0:44:34.680 --> 0:44:35.879 look at it for what it is, Like, you guys 0:44:35.880 --> 0:44:36.520 are fucking kids. 0:44:37.040 --> 0:44:39.520 For sure. You know what I mean, what's coming up next? 0:44:39.560 --> 0:44:39.719 Man? 0:44:39.760 --> 0:44:44.520 Anything you want to promote or I know you you 0:44:44.520 --> 0:44:47.479 you obviously just signed Turbo, which is a big, big deal. 0:44:47.680 --> 0:44:52.640 Yeah. Yeah. I'm a partner at Range, which is we're 0:44:52.680 --> 0:44:55.560 a management company. There's like, I think twelve of us, 0:44:56.480 --> 0:44:58.319 and then we have a you know, a really really 0:44:58.360 --> 0:45:03.000 dope staff, like I think like sixty individuals who all 0:45:03.000 --> 0:45:07.000 come from different labels and companies and things of that nature. 0:45:07.520 --> 0:45:12.160 And yeah, we just started working with Turbos, So I'm 0:45:12.200 --> 0:45:16.160 working with him now, and you know, he's dope. You know, 0:45:17.080 --> 0:45:22.839 Diamond Diamond, credited producer, crazy tons of plaques and he's 0:45:23.200 --> 0:45:27.800 working on an album, oh you know, his debut album, 0:45:27.800 --> 0:45:31.960 which is very very premature stages, but it's something that 0:45:31.960 --> 0:45:36.799 he's gonna be working on. We have a really really 0:45:36.840 --> 0:45:39.120 dope single coming out. I can't say with who. When 0:45:39.120 --> 0:45:43.760 I say we, I mean Corday in June, June sixteenth. 0:45:43.960 --> 0:45:46.520 I think it's gonna shake the world. It's it's not 0:45:46.680 --> 0:45:49.960 just us, it's kind of I can't really say what 0:45:50.000 --> 0:45:51.960 it is without giving us h much information, but it's 0:45:52.000 --> 0:45:52.480 something that's. 0:45:52.320 --> 0:45:53.480 Really big deal coming. 0:45:53.760 --> 0:45:56.239 Yeah. Yeah, it has like several parties involved that make 0:45:56.280 --> 0:45:59.960 it something that's like really monumental and special. For June sixteen, 0:46:00.120 --> 0:46:07.359 that's happening corde As a tour taking place domestic. It'll 0:46:07.360 --> 0:46:08.799 be announced, you know, it'll be in the fall and 0:46:08.800 --> 0:46:11.600 then go over seas the world toilets and on the horizon. 0:46:12.280 --> 0:46:17.680 But yeah, bro, just just working and just you know, honestly, Bro, 0:46:17.840 --> 0:46:20.080 it's if you talk with anybody but any a and 0:46:20.160 --> 0:46:23.600 r any manager, anybuddy who's want that fashion like you, 0:46:23.680 --> 0:46:24.960 it will be the same thing if I ask you 0:46:24.960 --> 0:46:26.680 what you have going on, it's all the things you're 0:46:26.719 --> 0:46:28.680 doing now. But you just have to keep it going. 0:46:28.760 --> 0:46:31.920 You to keep working at it because everything is just 0:46:32.040 --> 0:46:33.879 like one foot in front of the other. You've never 0:46:33.920 --> 0:46:37.640 really arrived, you know, so there's there's no finishing. So 0:46:37.760 --> 0:46:38.680 just continuously working. 0:46:38.719 --> 0:46:39.600 Bro, there it is. 0:46:39.640 --> 0:46:41.400 You know what I'm saying, What are you? What do 0:46:41.440 --> 0:46:43.080 you got coming up? keV? What are you working on? 0:46:43.320 --> 0:46:45.040 No one ever asked you questions? Man, I want to 0:46:45.040 --> 0:46:45.799 ask about you know. 0:46:45.840 --> 0:46:47.360 Man, I'm just you know, trying to rack up the 0:46:47.440 --> 0:46:50.480 radio stations on the syndicated show and up. 0:46:50.440 --> 0:46:55.160 The club Baby Club eleven eleven, Arizona. What made you 0:46:55.160 --> 0:46:55.959 want to open the club. 0:46:57.920 --> 0:47:00.640 It was an opportunity that is, like I wanted to 0:47:00.640 --> 0:47:04.520 open the club. It was just an opportunity that fell 0:47:04.520 --> 0:47:08.600 in my lap. That was a slam dunk of a 0:47:08.640 --> 0:47:09.880 gamble as it could be. 0:47:10.120 --> 0:47:12.320 Some homies, some good friends that you have a relationship 0:47:12.360 --> 0:47:14.080 were opening the club and they saw like no. 0:47:14.440 --> 0:47:18.319 So one of my close friends had reached out to me, 0:47:18.360 --> 0:47:21.960 my boy Corey, and he was like, hey, there's an 0:47:21.960 --> 0:47:25.799 opportunity here. I'm not going to do it without you 0:47:25.960 --> 0:47:28.840 and Daveon if you guys are in, you know, we 0:47:29.200 --> 0:47:31.920 figured it out. We kind of Yeah, it was just 0:47:31.920 --> 0:47:34.399 a it was like a slam dunk. 0:47:34.560 --> 0:47:34.759 Yeah. 0:47:35.160 --> 0:47:37.000 So it was like, I mean i'd be because I 0:47:37.000 --> 0:47:38.680 had turned down opportunities to be a part of clubs 0:47:38.680 --> 0:47:43.320 in Phoenix before or in Arizona rather, but this particular 0:47:43.320 --> 0:47:48.560 opportunity was like the other parties who were involved, Yeah, 0:47:48.600 --> 0:47:52.680 it was just there was like a missing just I mean, look, 0:47:52.880 --> 0:47:54.680 there's no hip hop clubs. I mean in Scotstale, all 0:47:54.680 --> 0:47:58.040 the hip hop clubs got closed was done international clothes. 0:47:58.880 --> 0:48:01.080 There was a there's a small st there called Pretty Please, 0:48:01.120 --> 0:48:03.600 which is like a fucking shoe box. But there was 0:48:03.640 --> 0:48:05.600 really nothing else going on, So it was like, damn 0:48:05.640 --> 0:48:08.520 if we do this the right way, and super Bowl 0:48:08.560 --> 0:48:10.960 was coming up. Yeah, so it's like, shit, super Bowl's 0:48:11.000 --> 0:48:11.359 next year. 0:48:11.680 --> 0:48:13.680 There's something else happening in Arizona next year. I was 0:48:13.719 --> 0:48:15.479 just texting you about when I found out super Bowl 0:48:15.560 --> 0:48:16.000 just happened. 0:48:16.040 --> 0:48:17.600 But I think Final Force that's what. 0:48:17.560 --> 0:48:19.799 It is, the Final Four. Oh dude, you're gonna. 0:48:19.320 --> 0:48:21.600 Final Force come in. We get spring training. 0:48:21.640 --> 0:48:23.320 You know, it's like two weeks of games. 0:48:23.840 --> 0:48:26.480 Spring training is you know, a month and a half. 0:48:26.760 --> 0:48:28.040 There's a lot of shit, But yeah, I. 0:48:28.000 --> 0:48:33.759 Like about you. Kevin djaying is I think DJing in 0:48:33.880 --> 0:48:39.560 terms of like one of the core forms of art 0:48:39.840 --> 0:48:46.680 in music, it's the hardest job to be it's the 0:48:46.719 --> 0:48:49.439 hardest job to be successful at by way of making 0:48:49.440 --> 0:48:52.000 a real living. Now, I'm not talking about being able 0:48:52.080 --> 0:48:54.200 to afford bills. I'm talking about like to the point 0:48:54.200 --> 0:48:57.040 where like you can continue to progress and you can 0:48:57.080 --> 0:48:58.400 make the type of money that we all hope to 0:48:58.440 --> 0:49:00.799 make one day and to be able to acquire things 0:49:00.840 --> 0:49:03.560 that we want, just not that we need, and where 0:49:03.600 --> 0:49:05.920 you don't have to worry about bills because DJ's all 0:49:06.000 --> 0:49:07.919 the time and the last people to get paid. When 0:49:07.920 --> 0:49:10.920 you look at the overhead costs of a club or 0:49:11.520 --> 0:49:15.280 a festival, or even if you're looking at artists, dude, 0:49:15.280 --> 0:49:17.200 like you look at it, it's like how much is this DJ? 0:49:17.280 --> 0:49:19.600 Is dope, but like how much do it cost? Okay? Cool, 0:49:19.640 --> 0:49:21.479 we can go find another DJ who'll do it for less. 0:49:21.640 --> 0:49:23.560 And that's the problem. It's almost like graphic designers. 0:49:23.640 --> 0:49:25.600 Yeah, you guys had hit me up to be Corde's first. 0:49:25.520 --> 0:49:27.000 DJ, Yeah, I would have loved that. I would have 0:49:27.040 --> 0:49:27.319 been tight. 0:49:27.640 --> 0:49:29.040 I just was like, I can't do it, man, I 0:49:29.080 --> 0:49:29.640 got too many. 0:49:29.760 --> 0:49:31.040 What I mean, you look when artists are just starting, 0:49:31.040 --> 0:49:33.719 but we couldn't afford you. Somebody would jump in. It 0:49:33.760 --> 0:49:35.920 would have been tight, you know what I mean. But 0:49:35.960 --> 0:49:39.920 my point is I love what you're doing because like 0:49:39.960 --> 0:49:43.400 you're like the ultra entrepreneur because you've been able to 0:49:43.440 --> 0:49:49.120 take DJing as just kind of like the identifiable aspect 0:49:49.160 --> 0:49:50.680 in the core of what you do that made everybody 0:49:50.680 --> 0:49:53.920 give a shit, right, And then from there you're like, Okay, 0:49:54.600 --> 0:49:58.080 if I'm in the DJ, what's the next step of 0:49:58.120 --> 0:50:00.920 how I can how I can generate something that's lucrative, 0:50:00.920 --> 0:50:02.960 Like it's okay, let me get the radio. Then you 0:50:03.000 --> 0:50:07.040 get the radio. You're okay, cool. Radio now is transitioning 0:50:07.480 --> 0:50:11.840 to podcasts. Let me start a podcast, okay cool. So 0:50:11.880 --> 0:50:14.520 now if I'm on radio and I'm interviewing artists because 0:50:14.560 --> 0:50:18.600 I have relationships with them, what's the next step? Let 0:50:18.640 --> 0:50:19.640 me bring them to a club. 0:50:19.760 --> 0:50:22.200 And Hannibal is calling, Let me give you my phone 0:50:22.200 --> 0:50:22.920 real quick fire. 0:50:23.120 --> 0:50:25.319 How do you know that number? Without his name popping out? Oh, 0:50:25.360 --> 0:50:29.400 it is popping up. We're with them. And so I 0:50:29.440 --> 0:50:31.200 wanted to tell you because I don't think anybody's ever 0:50:31.239 --> 0:50:33.080 told you this one, bro, but you deserve to hear it. 0:50:33.440 --> 0:50:35.600 It's dope. You've been able to make a business out 0:50:35.640 --> 0:50:38.719 of yourself instead of a byproduct, but a business out 0:50:38.760 --> 0:50:42.799 of yourself. And and there's several different verticals of the 0:50:42.800 --> 0:50:43.560 bootle like Kevi. 0:50:43.440 --> 0:50:44.600 Bra trying to run it up. 0:50:44.640 --> 0:50:47.759 Man, it's hard to do that, bro, It's hard to 0:50:47.760 --> 0:50:48.080 do that. 0:50:48.080 --> 0:50:51.359 That's like pure entrepreneurialism. That's the word, right, entrepreneurialism. Yeah. 0:50:51.400 --> 0:50:53.759 I might be buying another clip too. I'm sorry, I 0:50:53.840 --> 0:50:55.080 might be buying another club too. 0:50:55.560 --> 0:50:58.120 I need it on that one. I need it on 0:50:58.160 --> 0:51:00.480 that one, bro, Yeah, need. 0:51:00.320 --> 0:51:05.320 I can't tell you what city. But it's in California 0:51:06.880 --> 0:51:10.719 to Modesto. I'm actually now I actually start doing nights 0:51:10.719 --> 0:51:14.719 out there next Monday. I'll be the night show in Modesto. Y. 0:51:15.040 --> 0:51:20.040 Let's Hannibal, Yes, Hannibal man? 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