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Wow, all right, are 16 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 3: you done? 17 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 5: Somebody go get this best struggling struggling Breaking news in 18 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 5: the NFL. Former Cardinals number one overall pick Kyler Murray 19 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 5: has a new home. He's taking his talent to Minnesota. 20 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 5: He's going to be the quarterback for the Minnesota Vikings 21 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 5: one year veteran minimum deal because, as we mentioned, the 22 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 5: Cardinals are paying his whole salary basically, and we haven't 23 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 5: confirmed it yet. All they're saying is the competition, But 24 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:20,559 Speaker 5: all signs point to Kyler Murray replacing former first round pick, 25 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 5: the guy who got sam Donold out of town, the 26 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 5: guy who got Daniel Jones out of town, the guy 27 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 5: who prevented Aaron Ryder come into town. JJ McCarthy looks 28 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 5: like his days are numbered in Minnesota. 29 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 3: And I give credit to the Vikings. Give credit. 30 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: We talk about this all the time that at some 31 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: point you got to just say, hey, we might have 32 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: gotten something wrong. 33 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 3: It's time to move on. That's a bar. 34 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 1: And I think this is the case with the Vikings 35 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: that I've been saying. It's one of the first things 36 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: I said since joining this show, because joined right as 37 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: football season was starting the two seasons ago now, and 38 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: I said, man, you know, I've seen JJ McCarthy, seen 39 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: every one of his throws as a person born and 40 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: raised an Robert Michigan and I was like, he's he 41 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: played solid. 42 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 3: But I wouldn't have jumped up the tenth. 43 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have given up picks to go get him 44 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: when you might have been able to get him at 45 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: the end of the first round, maybe early second round, 46 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: and have your guy. And they let him slowly come 47 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: along and maybe he's your guy in the future. They 48 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: whatever reasons, bought in at JJ McCarthy, and and if 49 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: it weren't for him getting injured that rookie year, he 50 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: may have started right off the bat income Sam Darnold, 51 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: who we did not know him. He was gonna have 52 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: an amazing season that year for them and then go 53 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: on to have a good season this past one for 54 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 1: the Seahawks to the tune and winning in Super Bowl. 55 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: So JJ McCarthy got to play, did not perform well, 56 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:28,119 Speaker 1: was up and down. 57 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 3: Have a couple of quarters where he's good. 58 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 4: How many games did he start actually at Michigan, No, no, No, 59 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 4: For the Vikings, okay, all right, yeah, keep going. 60 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: And so what I was saying was, so we saw 61 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: the ups and down, so sometimes to have a good quarter, 62 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: good half, they don't have a bad couple of games. 63 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: So I think for him there is something there eventually. 64 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: But what I think the Vikings did and realized that 65 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: we have a really good defense, We have maybe the best, 66 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: maybe the second best receiver in Justin Jefferson, and I 67 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: think and some other good pieces on offense as well, 68 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:01,119 Speaker 1: Tye and receivers. 69 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 3: So I think they realize we got. 70 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: A chance to get a guy that has been very 71 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: explosive at times, who has all the talent in the world, 72 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: hasn't put it together most of his career thus far. 73 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: But again, they believe with Kevin O'Connell on the way 74 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: they coach up that they can get it done with 75 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. It's a one year deal, and I think 76 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: they're just trying to say, let's see what we can 77 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: look like if we put JJ back a little bit, 78 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: give him some more time, get a guy who's explosive 79 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 1: with a bunch of weapons who wants to revitalize his 80 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: career in Kyler Murray, and see if we can do 81 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: that and get back in a competitive division. And where 82 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: they won nine with JJ, and I think they feel like, well, 83 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: we won nine with him, what can we do with 84 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray? So I think this is something where they're 85 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: going to say another reclamation project like we did with 86 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: Sam Darnold, like we did with Daniel Jones, and now 87 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: he's out here making one hundred million, he's winning super Bowls? 88 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: Can we get Kyler Murray to play his best ball 89 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: and help us get into the postseason. 90 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 4: I just think this is again. The guy's playing ten games, 91 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 4: has been injured twice. He also won the biggest game 92 00:03:58,000 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 4: of the year, went to Detroit and beat the Lions. 93 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 4: Watch the tape like he made all the big throws 94 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,839 Speaker 4: that they needed him to make. I'm not sitting here 95 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 4: to tell you that JJ McCarthy's going to be the 96 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 4: next coming of anything. But after ten games, the idea, 97 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 4: we're just so ridiculous that everybody is supposed to be 98 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 4: the same and develop the same Aaron Rodgers set for 99 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 4: three years and JJ McCarthy is supposed to play and 100 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 4: win fourteen games. Is after ten games, I just think 101 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 4: that the whole mindset is messed up with the way 102 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 4: that they draft quarterbacks. But I'll tell you this, if 103 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 4: Kyler Murray's healthy and can play with that team, is 104 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 4: this on? Because I'm here to tell you right now 105 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 4: that the Lions have officially dropped the last place in 106 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 4: the NFC North. The Lions have dropped the last place. 107 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 4: The Lions will finish behind the Minnesota Vikings, who last 108 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 4: year only won. 109 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 3: One less game than the Lions without a quarterback. 110 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 4: Supposedly without a quarterback, they only law they only had 111 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 4: one less. 112 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 3: Loss than the Detroit Lions, and now you're gonna get 113 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 3: a former first overall. 114 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 4: Pick as a quarterback with a coach who's done very 115 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 4: well with coaching quarterbacks up with their weapons and their defense, 116 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 4: and not think that they're not gonna be better than 117 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 4: the Lions with all the changes that have taken place 118 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 4: in Detroit. 119 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 3: Hello, three to one three? Do you hear me? 120 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 4: You should be shaking in your boots today. You should 121 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 4: be scared to death that this division, that the opening 122 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 4: that you had and a chance to get to the 123 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 4: super Bowl has closed. The division is way tougher. I 124 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 4: look at all of I look at the four teams. 125 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 4: The Lions are the least favorite team to win that division. 126 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:56,359 Speaker 4: To me, I'm convinced they'll finish in fourth place. I 127 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 4: like the Packers better. I like the Bears to get 128 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 4: even better win the division. And I like the Vikings 129 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 4: I do. They have so much talent, so many players 130 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 4: all over the place. Last year was a disappointing year, 131 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 4: nine wins. So the Vikings can do whatever they want 132 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 4: one year year. You know, approve it, Let's see what 133 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 4: you got whatever. Kyler Murray can be playing for something, 134 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 4: for his respect, for his credibility, for his career. Those 135 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 4: are dangerous thing to mix in with with that when 136 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 4: you have weapons, when you have a defense, and when 137 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 4: you have a coach that has been able to coach 138 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 4: people up. 139 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: But that's why I go back to what you just said, 140 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: is why they did this. And JJ McCarthy, here's the 141 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 1: other thing too. You mentioned Aaron Rodgers sitting and he 142 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 1: was sitting behind Brett Favre, so obviously we knew. That's 143 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 1: why he said. I don't think they, JJ McCarthy. They 144 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: feel like, as they're looking at this, as we have 145 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: a window right now, We've got the certain guys from 146 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: the offensive side, we got receivers, we got a good defense. 147 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: We don't know if Brian Flores is gonna be here 148 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 1: much longer. So for them, this is go time. This 149 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: is the chance they got to draft him though. But 150 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: that and that's why I like that. They're saying he's 151 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: not ready. That's why I like it because the setup 152 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: having pride. No, well I did it, So I gotta 153 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: sit on this. I gotta wrest on our laurels. He's 154 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: the guy, he's the guy. 155 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 3: He's ten games. 156 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: No nobody and nobody's saying games. 157 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 3: Ten games is ridiculous. 158 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: But what they're saying has been hurt twice, So now 159 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: you got to add that to the mix. 160 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 4: Now, the other thing, Caylin Murray loses the first four 161 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 4: games and throws eight interceptions. 162 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: Now what we get more on you, because that'd be Lions. 163 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: I'm asking you, Well, yeah, I mean he's that's why 164 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: you keep him. He's your guy. You've invested with him. 165 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: He's not like you're kicking him out the NFL. But 166 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: what they're saying is, right now, we got a chance. 167 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: This division looks like it could be tough for a 168 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: while with the Bears and Caleb william Williams. Obviously Jordan 169 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: loves still that the packers is gonna pack her and 170 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: the Lions. So they're saying, we got to try to 171 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: win now and go get a guy who can be 172 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: hopefully explosive, and the only challenge I would say with 173 00:07:57,800 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: you and the Vikings. And then when you're talking about 174 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: the conference or the division, Kyler Murray's only played thirty 175 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: of the last fifty five games. He's been heard a 176 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: lot too, so that would worry me with him. And 177 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: then the Bears won a whole lot of last second games. 178 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: Does that come back like the Chiefs did the year before. 179 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: It came like that, So I look at the thing 180 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: that what I saw from the Bears that they can 181 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: get better. That was only his first first year with 182 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: now the hardest with the hardest schedule too, so it'll 183 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:26,239 Speaker 1: be interesting. 184 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 3: The division is really good them in the NFC West. 185 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 3: I just don't. I don't see what the Lions. I 186 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 3: see the Lions losing people left and right every day. 187 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 1: Getting an offensive lineman. We'll see, though, I don't. I 188 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: don't see the upgrade. 189 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 3: I don't like it. As a Lions fan. I don't 190 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 3: like them getting Kyler Murray. That's more explosive. 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I don't 219 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 5: know if you guys know this, but they just fired 220 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 5: their head coach after three seasons, Adrian Autrey, the handpicked 221 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 5: successor to Jim Beheim and Syracuse all right, I was 222 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 5: just a quick background on Autrey before we get to 223 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 5: the sound here was there for three seasons forty nine 224 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 5: and forty eight overall this season. He had a winning 225 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 5: record this season fifteen and seventeen, failing to reach the 226 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 5: NCAA Tournament and now finishing with consecutive losing seasons for 227 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 5: the first time at Syracuse since nineteen sixty nine, since 228 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 5: the Louisiana Purche. 229 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 3: Terrible since Moby Dick was a guppy. 230 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 5: So Jim Beaheim, who's working the tournament I guess for 231 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 5: the ACC Network, was on the broadcast yesterday during one 232 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 5: of the games and had this to say about why 233 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 5: things went sideways there in Syracuse. 234 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 3: Tic Listen, Well, you know what happens. 235 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 8: Don't have enough resources that put you behind. We look 236 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 8: at the league, DC, Georgia Tech now Syracuse three of 237 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 8: the latest least Nile money in the league. You have 238 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 8: to look at that with Adrian Oughtry, his two best 239 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 8: players had horrible years. If you take any team in 240 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 8: this league and you take their two best players and 241 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 8: they have really really bad years, like Cam Booser and 242 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 8: Isaiah Evans have a bad year, Duke, they don't win. 243 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 3: That's what happened this year Turkeys. 244 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 8: His two best players just didn't play well, at the 245 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 8: end of the day, the head coach is responsible. 246 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 3: Adrian Outry knows that. I think he's a good coach. 247 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 8: I think he got in a situation where his best 248 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 8: players just didn't play the way they needed to play 249 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 8: and it cost him his job. 250 00:11:56,240 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 4: Shame on, Jim Behon, Shame, shame. 251 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 3: These coaches. Kill me. 252 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 4: You're gonna bury the kids, really, Kelvin, you're gonna bury 253 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 4: the kids. They're the reason Syracuse didn't win because they 254 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 4: didn't play well enough. They had horrible years, terrible years, right, 255 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 4: that's the reason that they lost. I thought they didn't 256 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 4: make the tournament for three years, so it was just 257 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 4: those two kids who didn't play well this year. Okay, 258 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 4: is there anybody on that damn desk who's gonna push 259 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 4: back on. 260 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 3: Any of these guys? 261 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 4: Why have eight people on the desk? If no one's 262 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 4: gonna push back, stop it. We don't need all these analysts. 263 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 4: If no one's going to question, hey, coach, they've struggled 264 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 4: for three years. One of those kids having a bad 265 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 4: year this past year have to do with the two 266 00:12:55,679 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 4: previous Make them answer that question. Maybe Audrey wasn't a 267 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 4: good enough coach. Maybe he let the kids down. Maybe 268 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 4: he didn't do a good job and used them the 269 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 4: best way in their talents. Can we even have a 270 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 4: hint of that that maybe he's not a good coach. 271 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 4: Maybe he was a great assistant for you, Jim Beheim, 272 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 4: but he's not a good head coach. It happens all 273 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 4: the time. What is wrong with these people? They go unchallenged, unchecked, unmarked. Oh, 274 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 4: right away, they don't have nil money. 275 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 3: He didn't play it didn't play well. 276 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 4: Who gets the big contract and extensions when the team 277 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 4: plays well? 278 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 3: Kelvin at wins coaches? Who gets the big Nike sneaker 279 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 3: deal for the team? Coaches? And now it's the two 280 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 3: players who had an off year. 281 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 4: That's the reason that Syracuse hasn't made the tournament I 282 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,319 Speaker 4: think five straight years, but three years under him. 283 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 3: That's why, Jim, what happened in your last two years? 284 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 4: Did you not have nil money and the kids were 285 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:08,719 Speaker 4: terrible for you? 286 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 3: Coach? 287 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 4: How could somebody ask Jim Beheim? How did you stick 288 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 4: around for fifty five years and you only won one 289 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 4: national championship? And if Carmelo never happened to wander on 290 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 4: the Syracuse campus for one year, you'd have none. But 291 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 4: you want to blame the kids. Man, that is so low, 292 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 4: so bad. And if you want to go, give me 293 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 4: the examples, give me the what happened? Why nobody could 294 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 4: ask him what happened to those players? Why didn't they perform? 295 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 3: Well? Why was it shooting off? Did you see something? Coach? 296 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 4: Was he used in the right the situation? That's what 297 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 4: I want to hear. Break it down for me. 298 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 3: Tell me. 299 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 4: That this player, this player, that whoever you're talking about, well, 300 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 4: the year before he. 301 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 3: Was really good at threes. 302 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 4: And this year or whatever, reading it about blah blah blah, 303 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 4: give me something. 304 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 3: Nobody pushed back. 305 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 4: They sat there and allowed him to dump on college 306 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 4: players without a pushback. 307 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 3: It disgusted me. 308 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 4: Why do you have nine analysts up on the desk 309 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 4: and nobody be willing to check these guys or question 310 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 4: them or make them explain their takes. 311 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 3: I need more than that. 312 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: So, unfortunately, this is the odd couple, and usually we 313 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: disagree on a bunch, and this is one of those times. 314 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: Go to even couple because I agree number one. I 315 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: don't like him calling kids out drastically. He could have said, hey, 316 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: some guys were underperforming, but to put the onus on 317 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: them and make it like, well, the kids didn't weren't good. 318 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: That's the problem. The kids weren't good. Let's talk about 319 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: not good. Your coach, who you chose. And a part 320 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: of this, I think you hear, is because he felt like, ooh, 321 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: it was on me. I personally hand picked him all 322 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: to you to have the position. So I got to 323 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: make sure they know what him because it's a reflection 324 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: of me and the choice, the choice that I made. 325 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 3: So that's number one. 326 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: Secondly, you cannot be good for three years in a 327 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: row and then blame and then blame all the kids. 328 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: And let's get more specifically with the kids. So your 329 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: star player JJ Sterling, Starling. JJ Starling was averaging eighteen 330 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: points last year Rob he dropped to eleven. So usually 331 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: with a really good coach, you know what players do. 332 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: They improve, You get better, and you get better and 333 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: you get better, you don't regress. And it's not just 334 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: by points. 335 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 2: Right. 336 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: He could go from eighteen to seventeen but improved as 337 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: a player. You could go from eighteen to sixteen, which 338 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: you improved as a player. He actually regressed as a player. 339 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: And so their other star player, Freeman, who went down 340 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: as well. His scoring went up a couple but all 341 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: of his numbers, shooting, stat that, rebounds, assists, everything went down. 342 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: So to me, that screens poor coaching, poor player of development. 343 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: So how's that on? Said players? So I'm blown away 344 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 1: by that. And this is a sport we're unlike the NBA, 345 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: unlike the NFL for the most part, where the players 346 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 1: are the star. In college who are the stars the 347 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 1: college basketball? Including Jim Behin We just mentioned tom Azzo, 348 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: you mentioned when Bill tel was there, coach k The 349 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: coaches are these stars. You're the big thing. You're bigger 350 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: than the players. So the idea to just go, well, 351 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 1: the players didn't do this. College is where players get better, 352 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: especially you got guys who are seniors. 353 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 3: This wasn't like a one to none. 354 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: And he didn't look as good as he did in 355 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: high school because he's worried about the NBA. You had 356 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,439 Speaker 1: guys for him three years, multiple years, and they didn't improve. 357 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: That's on your clock in my opinion. So I'm to me, 358 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: this was an escapegoat. I'm not saying players, maybe something 359 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: didn't work out, but then you say that, you address it, 360 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 1: you get more specific. But to just do a blanket 361 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: statement that two of your best players you know, didn't 362 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 1: show up. Usually you don't call out kids in that 363 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 1: position because we like to wait till their pros And 364 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 1: I know Nil's out there, so I kind of thought 365 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: that was interesting that when he's not in a position, 366 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: because he would have a massive issue. Of course, somebody 367 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: would have called out one of his players. But do 368 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 1: you think when he was coaching. 369 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 4: Anybody would have said to behim, coach, did you make 370 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 4: a mistake recommending Audrey to be the head coach? 371 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 5: Three? 372 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 3: And that's a fair question. And that's a free question. 373 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 4: Just sing regressed right too straight? Losing seasons three years 374 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 4: in a row, not making a tournament. Maybe he wasn't ready, Like. 375 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: I said, someone also could ask, hey, but let's go 376 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 1: to JJ Starr. You mentioned those players, what happened? Where's 377 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: the development? I'm looking at the stats in the average eighteen? 378 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: I was average eleven? What went wrong? Asked the question 379 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 1: to say his players suck? 380 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 3: That's it? Like, No, you gotta elaborate on that. No, 381 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 3: Nil money and his players suck and coach? 382 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 1: And also why Syracuse would want to move on rop 383 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 1: because now with Nil and every school can't have a 384 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 1: bunch of money right like some other schools. So then 385 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 1: you guess what's gonna be even more important? Having great 386 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: coaching so that I can't get a guy who might 387 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: be a three star not a five, and I'm able 388 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: to help you have these guys play their absolute best. 389 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 1: So therefore coaching is going to be very important mile 390 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 1: maybe not more than ever, but more than recent because 391 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: I can't just cut on. Well, I got a bunch 392 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: of money to go pay the best players. 393 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 7: I gotta have. 394 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: Great coaching to coach these guys who might not have 395 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: been five stars. So after three years at a big school, 396 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 1: like a basketball school like Syracuse, and for one game 397 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 1: above five hundred, it'd be time to move on. 398 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 3: And that's fair to me. That is a fair run. 399 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: Three years, one game above five hundred, not making the tournament, 400 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: guys are regressing. That sounds like a way to say, hey, 401 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: thanks a lot, but we're moving on. 402 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 4: I just I really, And you notice you watch sports, 403 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 4: they got all these people up there. I just don't 404 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 4: even know what are they up there for. They just 405 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 4: sit there, They sit on their hands. No one's gonna 406 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 4: question people push back. Just ask him one what went 407 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 4: wrong coach with those players. Can you give me that 408 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 4: you're a coach? You watch Syracuse, I'm sure you watch 409 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 4: the games. What were they coach correct when they coached up? 410 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,239 Speaker 4: Coach when they coach correctly? If you say he has 411 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 4: hearn to be here, what was his strengths? What did 412 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 4: he do right then if it help us? Did he 413 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 4: develop under you or did he already make players who 414 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 4: are already developed. 415 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 3: There's a big difference between the two. We used to 416 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 3: talk about this all the time. 417 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 4: Matt Miller and I'm when he's on television doing the 418 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 4: NFL on the finished product, could identify players as good 419 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 4: as anybody and talk about their strangs, how they play, 420 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 4: develop it from college absolutely worse. 421 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 3: Different and there's a different skill set. 422 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 4: And now people thought, oh, Matt, he knows everything whatever 423 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 4: with that, But but going and getting a kid who's 424 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 4: not finished and in college, completely different thing. 425 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 3: And that and that is I just these shows drive 426 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 3: me crazy. 427 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 4: And I know everybody's not a reporter, but that's why 428 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 4: sometimes you need a reporter up there. 429 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 3: And I'm not just saying that because I'm a reporter. 430 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 3: I really do. 431 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 4: I think you cheat the viewer when you don't put 432 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 4: somebody up there. If the other guys are uncomfortable to 433 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 4: former player because they don't want to come off of 434 00:20:55,680 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 4: That's why you get somebody who's independent, who can ask 435 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 4: the questions that need to be asked. I just don't 436 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 4: understand why TV executives don't see that. And there's so 437 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 4: many That's why they go through so many guys. You 438 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 4: know that, how many guys? Yeah, they want then they're 439 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 4: gone and they want to because they don't want to 440 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 4: offer anything. 441 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 3: I'm telling you. 442 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 4: You gotta be able to in no situations, have somebody 443 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 4: who's willing to ask the obvious questions or the questions 444 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 4: that need to be asked. 445 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 1: Just how long it's too long that I'd ask them? 446 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 1: Three years one in above five hundred, no tournaments and 447 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: guys are regressing. 448 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 3: Sell me on why he is the guy to keep. 449 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 450 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 451 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 2: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 452 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 2: listen live. 453 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: NBA Champs, Serious Sex, m NBA Radio, Pelicans, CV Analysts, 454 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio, NBA Analysts, What's up man, how are you? 455 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 7: What's the fellas that's the fellas, how are you guys? 456 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 4: We're good and of course uh sham only has six points. 457 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 3: You hear what we're dealing with. Hed Tony's so what 458 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 3: I did? I? 459 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 7: Oh my god, man, I already know where this is going. 460 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 7: You already know where it's going. 461 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: Well is split. He calls him sham out of bayou. 462 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 1: That's what he called him. Was it a sham or 463 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: sham or good job bam? I was good job bam. 464 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: He was obviously sham. 465 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,360 Speaker 7: Here's the thing. Number one, I already knew what side 466 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 7: of the censeurab will be if answer a bunch about it. 467 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 7: Given there's no gray area here, you're either gonna celebrate 468 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 7: it or you're gonna critique it, okay, one or the others. 469 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 7: There is no great area out of out of all 470 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 7: the conversations that I had yesterday for our serious at 471 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,679 Speaker 7: Them show, two hours of it was about this and 472 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 7: this one way or the other. The years man like 473 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 7: eighty three is Eddy three first and foremost. This does 474 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 7: not take away from Kobe Bryant's legacy. That's what gets 475 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 7: me with people. People are acting like this has something 476 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 7: to do with Kobe's legacy, and it doesn't damn out 477 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 7: of Bioka Sport thirty three points and in that impact 478 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 7: in any way, shape or form, how we feel about 479 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 7: the great Kobe Bryant. Kobe was great, right, damn out 480 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 7: of Bayos point eighty three points does not change that whatsoever, 481 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 7: not at all. Here's what gets me, Fellas, why is 482 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 7: everybody aiming the hate towards man? Because this is what 483 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 7: I'll tell you, guys, and I'm not telling you something 484 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 7: you don't know. He had thirty one at the end 485 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 7: of the first, forty three at the half, so why 486 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 7: start double teaming him the moment Kobe Bryant's record was 487 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:44,640 Speaker 7: in reach. 488 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 3: No, I mean, ad, that's not the issue I have. 489 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 7: I have. 490 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 4: What they did at the end of the game, well, 491 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 4: I just had somebody who's covered the lease is nineteen 492 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 4: eighty seven. I'm gonna tell you I thought was awful. 493 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 4: I didn't feel good about it. I needed to just 494 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 4: take a shower after that game. There was nothing redeeming 495 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 4: about it. 496 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 3: It just wasn't. 497 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 4: And if a guy had a great shooting night, somebody's 498 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 4: feeling it fine. Forty three free throw attempts and it's 499 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 4: not just me, it's other guys. It's other coaches and 500 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 4: people in the league and the people the former NBA 501 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 4: players who texted me the next morning. Nobody was saying, 502 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 4: oh my god, what a what a feat? I can't believe. No, no, 503 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 4: it was like that. 504 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 3: That was lame. 505 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 7: Here's the thing. Number one, eighty three is never lain. 506 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 7: I don't care at what level you're talking about. Eighty 507 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 7: three has never lamed. Because you know what, I can 508 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,439 Speaker 7: guarantee you. I can guarantee you out of all the 509 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 7: NBA players that text you, none of them has scored 510 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 7: eighty three points. 511 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 2: No. 512 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 3: Right, they won NBA championships. 513 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 8: You're right. 514 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 7: I'm just telling you. I'm just telling you. But here's 515 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 7: the thing, Rob, here's the thing. If you watch those fouls, 516 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 7: it fouls. 517 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 4: No, I'm talking about when they're fouling the Wizards to 518 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 4: stop the game in the twenty five point blowout. 519 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 3: What you know what, that's the issue I have with 520 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 3: the game. 521 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 7: The Wizards were also intentionally failing obam Outebayo wouldn't go 522 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 7: through the outline. There's no, there's no, there's no. 523 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 4: That's a basketball game. We want to see that. That's 524 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 4: what the twenty and the twenty five point blowout. Both 525 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,199 Speaker 4: guys were fouling each other at the end of a 526 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 4: twenty five point blowout in the NBA. 527 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 7: I didn't say it was the prettiest watch. I didn't 528 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 7: say it was the prettiest watch. But there is no 529 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 7: way in today's NBA that you're going to score one 530 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 7: hundred points or eighty one points or eighty three points 531 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 7: and it's going to be ethical. It's always going to 532 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 7: be something that's in question. When I was in Oklahoma 533 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 7: City or Russell Westbrooks and he broke off the triple 534 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 7: double records, people were questioning the the how ethical with 535 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 7: the triple doubles? When he did it the next year, 536 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 7: how ethical with people are getting out of this weight? 537 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 7: Like he can't just celebrate anyone. We can't celebrate anyone. 538 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 7: It is impossible in today's culture to be successful with 539 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 7: anything without people breaking you down for something. 540 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I said the same thing because I think we're 541 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 1: everything is visible now and we see everything all the time. 542 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 1: And I mentioned it, there's gonna be a LaMelo ball 543 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: type guy who's gonna be able to break this record 544 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 1: one day because he's gonna shoot forty threes and make 545 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: twenty something of them. 546 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:24,199 Speaker 3: And then we'll be mad at that. 547 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: So everybody saying it's free throws, it'll be three point 548 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: attempts next time. 549 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 7: You're right, it's always going to be something. Well, Will 550 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 7: scored one hundred points. You know what they did. They 551 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 7: took all the starters out the game except for Wills. 552 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 7: Why because he had a chance to do something great 553 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 7: When Kobe Bryant scored as eighty one points. 554 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 4: Today found Will teams follow each other every position of 555 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 4: the year. 556 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 7: Rotten. 557 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 3: And what I'm not That's why. 558 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 7: I'm not saying you're wrong. Well, I'm not saying you're wrong. 559 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 7: What I'm saying is what I'm saying is, in today's NBA, 560 00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 7: there is no completely ethical way of scoring eighty points 561 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 7: or ninety points or one hundred points. Something's want to 562 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 7: be a question, Okay, want to be dugout? It's a given. 563 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 3: Even what do you think of Udokah's comments right after 564 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 3: the game. 565 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 4: Of course, as any coach, he looked at the box 566 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 4: scorer and he thought, oh, he must have had like 567 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 4: twenty three pointers or something. He goes, oh, he only 568 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 4: had six three pointers. Then I see he had forty 569 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 4: free throws. And it was the Wizards I mean, what 570 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:24,640 Speaker 4: was that? What was that? 571 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 7: I think he may you dookas he may U Dokah's 572 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 7: response to that question is a reflection of basketball culture. 573 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 7: People always have a comment on games that they don't watch. 574 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 7: People always want to give their opinion on games where 575 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 7: they simply look at the stats. See, that's the basketball 576 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 7: coature we live in. Often during our stereoth XIM show, 577 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 7: somebody will call in and say something about the game. 578 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,919 Speaker 7: And the first question I asked him is did you 579 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 7: watch the game? 580 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 4: And there we responses then the no, but I agree, 581 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,199 Speaker 4: I agree, you need to watch the game. We were 582 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 4: fortunate because we had the game on. We watched the 583 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 4: whole game, the whole game, you know what. 584 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 7: That's how you know didn't watch it either because he 585 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:07,639 Speaker 7: was coaching to get the Toronto right. 586 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 4: I get it, And they asked him a question and 587 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,199 Speaker 4: he just wanted to see what the how it was 588 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 4: put together when you and it just it wasn't a masterpiece. 589 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 3: It wasn't something where. 590 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 7: You could say, give me a masterpiecesterpiece looked like to 591 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 7: score eighty three points. 592 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 4: I'm just saying it would have to be hold on, 593 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 4: hold on, I could give you that in the flow 594 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 4: of a game where you have a real basketball game, 595 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 4: and I'll just give you what was it the who 596 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 4: scored one hundred and fifty. 597 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 3: Three points last night? The Clippers scored one hundred and 598 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 3: fifty three points. 599 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 4: If you had a game with two teams slugging it out, 600 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 4: and then there's one player on there who's just red hot, 601 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 4: Kwhi's red hot, and he shoots something incredible, knocks down 602 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 4: twelve threes, there is a game or path where you 603 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 4: would look at that, where it's a competitive game. In 604 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 4: a twenty five point blowout, there is nothing like that. 605 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 7: And when Devin Booker, when Devin Booker scored seventy, they 606 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 7: were getting blown out. But it's not just about the game. 607 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 7: It's not simply about the game. When in the eighty 608 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 7: one point game where Kobe Bryant scored his eighty one 609 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 7: point no, no, no, no, no, here's my thing. It was 610 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 7: a close game, but no other Laker took a shot 611 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 7: in the last six minutes of the game. 612 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 3: It was all him. 613 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this real quick, if we don't 614 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 1: have much time, if it weren't Bam, if it were Luca, 615 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: if it were stats. 616 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 3: I said the same thing would we would people be 617 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 3: as mad? 618 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: I think, is there no way how they're Bam passed Kobe? 619 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 7: You know why? I don't even think it's It's also 620 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 7: the fact that when you think about Bam out of Byo, 621 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 7: as good as he is, you don't think about him 622 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 7: as a score. Right, So if this was Luca, if 623 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 7: it was Shay, if it was Devin Booker, if it 624 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 7: was guy that you were accustomed to leading the leading 625 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 7: scoring or putting up like Sam out of Bayo before 626 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 7: he got yesterday, only scored forty points in the NBA 627 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 7: one time. It's career high was forty one. 628 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 3: And he never was six points? Right, is yes, the 629 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 3: left half got six? Yeah. 630 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, He's never scored fifty, he's never scored sixty, He's 631 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 7: never scored seventy. So there's a narrative around bam Adebayo, 632 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 7: great player, but not considered a score. So I think 633 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 7: people have a problem with that as well. Who passed 634 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 7: Kobe Bryant? 635 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 3: Yeah for sure? All right, all right, we got to 636 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 3: get on that. 637 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:25,479 Speaker 1: Man. 638 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 3: You get your thoughts on today. Do you appreciate it as. 639 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 7: Always appreciate bolts? 640 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 3: Yep, thank you