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Speaker 1: the wrong side of thirty. Welcome to another edition of
Speaker 1: the Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansas,
Speaker 1: coming to you from a room that's filled with heroes,
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and Greg Rosenthal. What is up boys?
Speaker 1: Hey Dan? Hey, feeling hope and something new, a new,
Speaker 1: a new frontier for this podcast this season go on.
Speaker 1: We may just judging on the lineup that we are
Speaker 1: looking at for this show. Log an episode that comes
Speaker 1: in under a hundred and twenty minutes. I think our
Speaker 1: Championship game review was under an hour. Then this could
Speaker 1: be this could be a thirty two minutes show. If
Speaker 1: we stay focused, it could be we could be in
Speaker 1: our cars heading home in thirty two minutes. But yeah,
Speaker 1: there's there's different seasons in in Los Angeles. You know,
Speaker 1: there's there's fire season where the fires come there fire
Speaker 1: pit season where West does fire pit in his background,
Speaker 1: and then there's Mark's really upset we didn't start on
Speaker 1: time season, which officially started well, but it kicks up
Speaker 1: what in what in? What? Ridiculous humor begins when Dan
Speaker 1: like lastly, it's like, hey, guys, cool with the twelve
Speaker 1: a twelve pm start for the show? Yes right away,
Speaker 1: of course I'd start at eight am. We could be
Speaker 1: done by nine am, but we have to wait twenty
Speaker 1: Right now, you're you don't have the send it because
Speaker 1: we know you want to start earlier. It is twelve
Speaker 1: twenty Mark. Mark likes his podcast like his NFL games,
Speaker 1: like over well, let I would say, let's do a
Speaker 1: good job with it, but why do we Why was
Speaker 1: must we wait and wait and wait to begin? It's
Speaker 1: a little reminder Mark how this works. We've done like
Speaker 1: seventy shows, uh, to try to do the best show possible. Uh.
Speaker 1: Eric and I we talked behind the scenes. We try
Speaker 1: to get things to bake into the show to make
Speaker 1: it a better show, and sometimes we have technical issues.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I don't think of something until, let's say, and
Speaker 1: it leads to just a brief delay that makes the
Speaker 1: show better hopefully. And when you think of it that way,
Speaker 1: does that change anything for you? Market? We're trying to
Speaker 1: make a better show for people as as opposed to
Speaker 1: getting you out of the office. As soon as I
Speaker 1: would say for the record, I will say yes, it
Speaker 1: does change things. Well, how I feel they're there to
Speaker 1: varying degrees. Do I believe in those theories? But new
Speaker 1: shirt though, Mark like not really? How do you said
Speaker 1: we've shipped everything in a box to Miami? How do
Speaker 1: you feel about the episodes that start late solely because
Speaker 1: everyone's trying to mess with you? You know how I feel?
Speaker 1: I feel annoyed? All right, Great to have you here, Mark, Um, Yes, Miami,
Speaker 1: we will be there one week today. Colleen Colleen will
Speaker 1: be in Miami as well. And uh, and we're really
Speaker 1: excited and looking forward to another big super Bowl week. Uh,
Speaker 1: so much to talk about, but this this is a
Speaker 1: good show, Greg. Where we can this Tuesday show during
Speaker 1: the bye week, essentially before the super Bowl. Let's not
Speaker 1: talk about the super Bowl? Really, I think this is
Speaker 1: a good episode to stay away from the Super Gonna
Speaker 1: plenty of time to talk about the super Bowl. Uh.
Speaker 1: And we have, of course Mina Kimes coming on Thursday.
Speaker 1: Have we figured out yet? Is Mina gonna be here
Speaker 1: or is she gonna be on a skype call? What's
Speaker 1: going on? Where's the update on that front? I assume
Speaker 1: she's coming here. She lives in Los Angeles, she knows
Speaker 1: she's coming on the pod. But yeah, I guess, I
Speaker 1: guess we should straighten these things out. She has been
Speaker 1: on the show once before, and it was a phone
Speaker 1: or as our call. Okay it was I wasn't there
Speaker 1: for that one, alright. We we informed her that you
Speaker 1: were intimidated by her and chose to set the show out,
Speaker 1: which I don't think she believed that. All right, So
Speaker 1: for today's show, Uh, Greg wrote a banker, Greg, what
Speaker 1: one of those pieces that sometimes you're reading you're thinking yourself,
Speaker 1: is this guy just looking for the clicks because some
Speaker 1: of this stuff is really interesting and goes outside the box. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like some of you know Greg's top what is thirty
Speaker 1: free agents? I didn't think it was two outside and
Speaker 1: multiple people check to see, Hey, anything crazy on us,
Speaker 1: and people, as Alan said, no, it seems fine. So
Speaker 1: it feels like a it's a harder year, more challenging
Speaker 1: year with the but you can let me know, Dan, Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: the over the hill quarterbacks make it a very challenging year. Yeah. Absolutely, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know what to do. You know that, I Gregor,
Speaker 1: I respect your football acumen. So it's not like I'm
Speaker 1: casting doubt upon these but some of the names where
Speaker 1: they fit on this list, And I will say, because
Speaker 1: we're all spinning forward uh and looking forward to not
Speaker 1: only the Dan and Mark top one on one free
Speaker 1: agents uh article that will come out after the super Bowl,
Speaker 1: but when West and Greg do their piece as well, um,
Speaker 1: you always it's it's fun to see the scientists battle
Speaker 1: it out. So this is the preliminary one point oh list.
Speaker 1: And sometimes you guys do these lists and there's all
Speaker 1: this build up. Oh yeah, the scientists. Who's gonna be
Speaker 1: a big winner. And then it's like Eric Fisher is
Speaker 1: the number one free agent on the market, not this year.
Speaker 1: Then it's like cha out At that point, why why is?
Speaker 1: Why is this list authored by Greg? And West has
Speaker 1: just left by the side of the road. She's your
Speaker 1: writing partner on this this front. West just put his
Speaker 1: hands up? Does West want extra writing assignments during the playoffs?
Speaker 1: West doesn't want any writing assignments ever, I rest my case,
Speaker 1: I arrest well, So he was consulted, does he want
Speaker 1: an extra column? He was consulted and said no, or
Speaker 1: you just ran with it on your own. This was
Speaker 1: years ago. I was asked for I don't know but
Speaker 1: a questions, and I think it's safe. I think it's
Speaker 1: safe to say, Can I tell Can I be honest
Speaker 1: with you? We can I be frank? Yes? Breaks my
Speaker 1: heart to hear you say that this isn't a cave all.
Speaker 1: We don't need to communicate that way anymore. Nobody reads anymore.
Speaker 1: Read a lot that has been on the steed for
Speaker 1: a while. But I I write an article and all
Speaker 1: anybody wants to talk about is the number Besides the analysis,
Speaker 1: not the actual analysis. So I even write of night
Speaker 1: happy to to the last the old guys are fired
Speaker 1: up to yeah the last minute. Um, you know it
Speaker 1: might be part of it. When West and I are
Speaker 1: both doing it, then it becomes a whole process. This
Speaker 1: thing is that it's relatively I already disagree with some
Speaker 1: of these rankings. I'm going to change it a lot
Speaker 1: in a month when we have a little more time,
Speaker 1: and West will certainly change it a lot. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: you only have names here, so I'm just assuming Geno
Speaker 1: Smith is twenty six and I have to call I
Speaker 1: did do it? Just missed? I should throw Geno out
Speaker 1: a little bit of a wink to the audience, all right,
Speaker 1: so we'll hit that. And also, uh uh, we're gonna
Speaker 1: do some news in fact, Ricky, how are you, by
Speaker 1: the way, doing great? How are you? I want to
Speaker 1: hear you know, some good cheer from somebody. So you
Speaker 1: had a nice weekend. It looked like I had a
Speaker 1: nice weekend. Shout out Jada's birthday, Edie Spaghetti's girlfriend, Uh,
Speaker 1: we're he's a firecracker. That yeah, she's a woman woman.
Speaker 1: I met her Thanksgiving Eve. For our listeners, Eddie Spaghetti,
Speaker 1: a member of the Dave Damask football program. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: that was fun. Yeah, guys got a lot of birthday parties.
Speaker 1: Do you guys have like three birthdays each? Uh, normally
Speaker 1: it's about for the weekend. Yeah. Now let me say this,
Speaker 1: and this is you know, Yes, it's coming up on
Speaker 1: February ten. You knew it. Now, let me say this
Speaker 1: you on repeat before. I'm not giving I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: give Damn this credit. I um, you are a young
Speaker 1: woman and far younger than all of us. But I
Speaker 1: have to tell I just have to say something. I
Speaker 1: know this gets into slippery slope territory. You're talking to
Speaker 1: a girl about her age. But this has to be
Speaker 1: your last birthday where you do it for a whole week. Why,
Speaker 1: I just at a certain point, it's got to just
Speaker 1: celebrate the day. Don't you stop at thirty? I'm not
Speaker 1: thirty yet. No, you'll just know naturally when it's time
Speaker 1: to well, I know, I know plenty of at some
Speaker 1: make up and you're like, oh good, sorry, go go ahead, Greg,
Speaker 1: just to forget good about what I was saying. Just
Speaker 1: march on in let market. I'm done. I would like
Speaker 1: to hear you. I want to hear this thought. This
Speaker 1: must be once all your friends start to get married
Speaker 1: and move away, then you will have no choice but
Speaker 1: just to celebrate for a single day. Mark. I want
Speaker 1: to hear what your thought. I didn't remember at this point.
Speaker 1: It was just like I got run over by a car.
Speaker 1: So anyway, yeah, I guess you'll know. Just don't don't
Speaker 1: be the person that takes it too far. Well, I
Speaker 1: have to do multiple days because, like we were talking
Speaker 1: before the show, you guys are all like old, So
Speaker 1: we need to go to the like the early Bird
Speaker 1: special dinner with you guys, and then I'll do my
Speaker 1: other things later. Right now, like the idea of inviting
Speaker 1: us to a West Hollywood nightclub hot spot at this
Speaker 1: juncture of our respective lives, it just doesn't quite. It's
Speaker 1: not a good connection. Why live a little but that's not.
Speaker 1: At some point you'll realize, like, oh I was having
Speaker 1: fun then, but I was sort of yeah some of
Speaker 1: those times, convincing myself I was having more fun than
Speaker 1: I was having I there's other ways I can have
Speaker 1: fun with just like my closest friends are in a
Speaker 1: different way, and it'll change. That's how That's how it changes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you might not want us stare at right, you don't,
Speaker 1: you don't anyway, you guys are blessing Lakisha were the
Speaker 1: only ones that came all the way to West Hollywood
Speaker 1: last year. Well, they're in. They were they were in
Speaker 1: a different phase of their lives, which was kind of
Speaker 1: like a couple on parade where you're they were there.
Speaker 1: There was the young hot couple engaged. They were on
Speaker 1: a world tour promoting the wedding, and they didn't have
Speaker 1: no kids, not yet. Anyway, different realm. Try to get
Speaker 1: West Alikisha this party next year. This is The takes
Speaker 1: that are flying around here are ridiculous. I mean, you
Speaker 1: guys promoted the hell out of that wedding. You get
Speaker 1: the whole you did the whole night, all the late
Speaker 1: night talk shows, you did Colbert, you did the Daily Show. Well,
Speaker 1: when you have to get to fly across the country,
Speaker 1: you have to you do have to promote it a
Speaker 1: little bit. But the idea, Yes, it's true, you guys
Speaker 1: have kids. We've hit the hour mark. By the way,
Speaker 1: you guys have kids, so it's harder for you to
Speaker 1: get the get two places. But we just wanted to
Speaker 1: go to hang out with Ricky because we were on
Speaker 1: some couples tour. We are flying today, all right, all right,
Speaker 1: but let's do some news. Eventually, as we were both
Speaker 1: single guys in our twenties, the talk turned to girls.
Speaker 1: Maybe we should get out of here, go find where
Speaker 1: the action is, he said. I looked at him, Dude,
Speaker 1: you're JFK Jr. All right, you don't need to go anywhere.
Speaker 1: He looked at me and laughed. And as he did,
Speaker 1: I saw a glimpse of his father and was reminded
Speaker 1: of his family's legacy of sacrifice and tragedy. I was
Speaker 1: glad that he was carrying the mantle so well and
Speaker 1: with so much promise for the future. Audio accer from
Speaker 1: the great two thousand eleven Rob Low autobiography Stories. I
Speaker 1: only tell my friends it was. It was exciting to
Speaker 1: hear him read that for the first time. He was like, Wow,
Speaker 1: this is pretty good. He didn't seem remotely familiar with it.
Speaker 1: What a great thing. This is good stuff, What a
Speaker 1: great book. He's a real rock and tour that Rob
Speaker 1: blow and Mark, that's that's that's what caused a slight delay.
Speaker 1: And you are a huge JFK fan, So just imagine
Speaker 1: being in the shoes of a young low looking face
Speaker 1: to face and seeing in that laugh the great John
Speaker 1: Fitzgerald Kennedy nineteen seventeen to nineteen very relevant tail by
Speaker 1: Rob Low. So I'm glad that that that we waited for.
Speaker 1: That we're eleven minutes in here, not to the news
Speaker 1: that might be a record cot. Uh. Jason Garrett's got
Speaker 1: a job. He agreed to become the Giant. So see,
Speaker 1: we kind of missed this in all the Championship Sunday hullabaloo.
Speaker 1: But Garrett, who finally got let go by the Cowboys
Speaker 1: at their nine seasons, he takes over and joins Joe
Speaker 1: Judge's staff. Um, and Greg, it's been a while since
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett called plays. That was a big subplot about
Speaker 1: halfway through his tenure as Cowboys coach. But I guess
Speaker 1: when you have a Joe Judge, a guy with very
Speaker 1: little experience, uh, having somebody like Garrett feels like a
Speaker 1: good situation. Yeah, in terms of helping navigate all the
Speaker 1: challenges of being a head coach, you know, in a
Speaker 1: big market. I would imagine Garrett would be a great
Speaker 1: guy to kind of have with you. We haven't seen
Speaker 1: him call plays. I mean he he was the coordinator
Speaker 1: of the Cowboys back in two thousand seven, so he
Speaker 1: had a run there. And it might be Garrett thinking, hey,
Speaker 1: if I want to re establish myself as a head
Speaker 1: coach in this league, and I have to show other
Speaker 1: teams that I can kind of update with the times
Speaker 1: and call plays, because I think that would be a
Speaker 1: big time question if he's ever interviewing for top jobs again.
Speaker 1: I I like the move when the experience head coach
Speaker 1: goes to the coordinator role and you've got someone who's
Speaker 1: new in New York with Judge at the at the
Speaker 1: head coach. Well, I love bringing in I would like
Speaker 1: the idea of bringing in a guy that has been
Speaker 1: through it all. And I get that Jason Garrett isn't
Speaker 1: necessarily seen as like the hot young coordinator who's gonna
Speaker 1: unfurl like some sort of scheme we've never seen before.
Speaker 1: But they have parts in place like this is not
Speaker 1: a bad place for Garrett to land. They they have
Speaker 1: some common history. They both worked for Nick Saban. I
Speaker 1: think people forget that about you know, Garrett's background, but
Speaker 1: Joe Judge came up under Saban and then under Bill Belichick.
Speaker 1: Garrett did too, and I don't know. I like the
Speaker 1: fact that Jason Garrett's in the NFC East going up
Speaker 1: against the Cowboys. I mean as as a fan of
Speaker 1: just dropping on the opposite sideline, that's that's gonna be fun.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, if if Jason Garrett's dropping bombs on
Speaker 1: the Cowboys defense, that would be kind of fun. There's
Speaker 1: no there's no loser here for you know, a fan
Speaker 1: of neither team. It guarantees without any question to primetime
Speaker 1: Cowboys giant schemes. There always are, though, aren't they And
Speaker 1: there's at least one, but we're getting um. The Garrett
Speaker 1: had two choices. He could go away for the year
Speaker 1: du the Mike McCarthy, but he didn't have a paycheck coming.
Speaker 1: And this is also a smart move. Like we said,
Speaker 1: he he has some weapons and can build his name
Speaker 1: back up. I'm sure his goal again is to get
Speaker 1: back into a big chair. Uh and we'll see if
Speaker 1: you can do it. St and P's retires after sixteen
Speaker 1: seasons in the NFL. The Titans defensive coordina announced it
Speaker 1: on Monday. He almost retired um around the time Mike
Speaker 1: Rabel was hired, but Rabel was able to talk Peas
Speaker 1: into Um coming to Tennessee to coordinate the defense. But
Speaker 1: now it is time for the coach to walk away.
Speaker 1: Tennessee finished at number three UH in terms of opposing
Speaker 1: points scored in twenty twelve and twenty nineteen forty takeaways
Speaker 1: under the two seasons UM and UM sixteen season NFL
Speaker 1: career for Peace, it was worth it to come back.
Speaker 1: What a great showing in the playoffs this year by
Speaker 1: Dean Peas. And he's been around so long. I was
Speaker 1: reading an article and on Antonio Gates yesterday talking about
Speaker 1: his college career and why he chose Kent State because
Speaker 1: he wanted to play basketball and football, and Nick Saban
Speaker 1: was at Michigan State with Dean pas who ended up
Speaker 1: being the Kent State coach for For Antonio Gates, he's
Speaker 1: been around forever, right, He's been a part of a
Speaker 1: lot of historical teams. I mean, he was the defensive
Speaker 1: coordinator of the two thousand seven Page Streets. I don't
Speaker 1: think anyone remembers that the eighteen in one season. He
Speaker 1: was the defensive coordinator of the two thousand twelve Super
Speaker 1: Bowl champion Ravens team who did not have a good defense,
Speaker 1: but did win the Super Bowl. And then now he
Speaker 1: knocks off the Ravens as a one seed, and do
Speaker 1: we say farewell? It's Dean a friend of Cynthia Freeland.
Speaker 1: Another person Cynthia Freeland somehow knows. Cynthia is one of
Speaker 1: those people. She knows everybody. So watch what you say
Speaker 1: around Cynthia Freedland. That's what I take away from it.
Speaker 1: You want to bury somebody in the NFL sphere, good chance,
Speaker 1: Cynthia will be texting about it shortly thereafter. She'll be
Speaker 1: telling on you. If you well, I will keep my
Speaker 1: mouth shut around to her if I wasn't. We're gonna
Speaker 1: have her back on the podcast soon. She wants to
Speaker 1: be back. We've got a lot of people going on
Speaker 1: vacation coming up, and that's not how you frame it
Speaker 1: now that UM other coordinator news, as expected, Romeo Crannell
Speaker 1: will not return as the Texans d C. The Texans
Speaker 1: instead will promote defensive line coach Anthony Weaver to replace Krnell.
Speaker 1: Cornell had been on O'Brien Bill O'Brien Stephen Houston since
Speaker 1: UM and was a tough year for Houston's defense, averaging
Speaker 1: about three nine yards a game which was in the
Speaker 1: bottom five in the NFL. UH they went a playoff
Speaker 1: game against the Bills and then yikes, fifty one point
Speaker 1: a fifty burger you get dropped on you in the
Speaker 1: divisional round against the Chiefs, and that essentially seemed to
Speaker 1: seal Cornell's fate. I found this more interesting um in
Speaker 1: Cornell might stay with the organization in some capacity as
Speaker 1: an advisor. Uh as the other part of the story,
Speaker 1: which was O'Brien firing a vice president Personnel department, a
Speaker 1: senior VP who the owner of Cal McNair of the
Speaker 1: Texans and O'Brien had recently said is one of the
Speaker 1: the best salary cap you know guys in the higher
Speaker 1: NFL that he's like made a huge difference for organization.
Speaker 1: This was during the last kind of changeover where O'Brien
Speaker 1: was taking more power, and here it is after the season.
Speaker 1: He's saying, hey, we're going in a great direction. We
Speaker 1: feel like everything's going in the right way. And then
Speaker 1: out Romeo care now and outs another VP, and O'Brien
Speaker 1: just swallows up more of the power coaches in terms
Speaker 1: of like power within their team. One through thirty two
Speaker 1: is the top five. He certainly wasn't a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago, and he's shot into that. Let's Sean Payton,
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll. Pete Carroll's up there. But I would say
Speaker 1: O'Brien now is also more than anyone else has has
Speaker 1: sort of a flair for power where he does these
Speaker 1: flashy things every five or six months that remind you
Speaker 1: he how much power he. I want to know which
Speaker 1: head coaches have the least amount of power. Zach Taylor. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that's maybe. Maybe Bill O'Brien's pastor can run
Speaker 1: the defense right up there. And if this isn't for Romeo,
Speaker 1: just goodbye to a great football life. A special teams
Speaker 1: coordinator of those Grade eighties Giants, then the defensive line
Speaker 1: coach back with the Parcels when he went to the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl and the Patriots, Uh, the coordinator of the
Speaker 1: Patriots when they won three Super bowl I mean he's
Speaker 1: done a largely forget right, Yes, and Chief's head coach.
Speaker 1: We had a conver we had a whole conversation downstairs,
Speaker 1: and no one remember that Romeo Cornell was once the
Speaker 1: head coach of the Chiefs. DNPS retires Romeo Cornell heading
Speaker 1: in that direction, Tom Brady heading towards retirement, Bill Bell
Speaker 1: checking of the year older. Really is it's the end
Speaker 1: of something, it's getting it's getting there. I mean Brady
Speaker 1: is gonna be uh playing for the Raiders, and Bell
Speaker 1: Chick and Jared stid him will be in the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl next year. Get to that in a second. One
Speaker 1: more bit of coaching news. The Dolphins have coaxed Chan
Speaker 1: Gailey out of retirement. He's their new o C. A
Speaker 1: day after fire chat o'shay um, Miami made Gailey it's
Speaker 1: new coordinator sixties seven years old. See all these old guys,
Speaker 1: especially the coordinators, they just stick around forever, and they
Speaker 1: usually keep getting jobs until they decide they're done. If
Speaker 1: you establish yourself in that, you know, in your thirties,
Speaker 1: forties and fifties, early fifties, it feels like you can
Speaker 1: work from your fifties into your sixties and then walk away.
Speaker 1: And Gailey certainly is a guy that's been kind of
Speaker 1: all over the map. Another former head coach. UH. He
Speaker 1: was previously with the Jets, the Cowboys, the Bills, Ers,
Speaker 1: the head coach the Dolphins, UH, and now he is
Speaker 1: back full circle in Miami, reunited with Ryan Fitzpatrick. You
Speaker 1: know they made beautiful magic together and that's two teams. Yeah,
Speaker 1: back with the Bills too. Maybe that was that part
Speaker 1: of it. Wow, he's with the Bills two thousand, two
Speaker 1: thousand twelve, I was with he was with Fitzy with
Speaker 1: the Jets. In Bills, he was always very forward thinking
Speaker 1: in terms of uh approach to offense. I remember that
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight Chiefs team, I think with Tyler
Speaker 1: thig Been. I mean, they were running some stuff that
Speaker 1: everyone's saying now is so newfangled, and I'm just shocked
Speaker 1: kind of that they that Brian Flores, that that was
Speaker 1: his big move this offseason. Get rid of Jim Caldwell,
Speaker 1: who was technically still on their staff ed health problems,
Speaker 1: get rid of Chattosha who was his coordinator, and bringing
Speaker 1: Jan Gaily. I just I want to know what he's
Speaker 1: been out of the loop, not just for one season
Speaker 1: or something, but four years. What has he been doing
Speaker 1: with his time? Is he like grinding film like West
Speaker 1: over Here and like coming up new schemes and things
Speaker 1: like maybe a consultant than He's better not be watching
Speaker 1: condensed there. You're gonna be in trouble if chan Gailey's watching, well,
Speaker 1: is he watching anything that especially viewed within the prism
Speaker 1: of our time here at NFL media Jet season, it
Speaker 1: is so weird. They had Right Fitzpatrick throw for thirty touchdowns,
Speaker 1: a team record, They had two one yard receivers, they
Speaker 1: won ten games, and they didn't make the playoffs. But
Speaker 1: and then just awful. Five years before that and five
Speaker 1: years after it. That's life Chilly back in the game.
Speaker 1: Phil Rivers egon out of San Diego. That is, he's
Speaker 1: moved permanently from San Diego to Florida to be closer
Speaker 1: to his family. Uh. A text to ESPN went as follows.
Speaker 1: What this means football wise is to be determined, but
Speaker 1: it was time for us to move back closer to home.
Speaker 1: His family is settled in the South. His football future,
Speaker 1: who knows. The Chargers don't seem to want to do
Speaker 1: business anymore. This Rivers thing was interesting because you could
Speaker 1: see it kind of both ways that maybe it was
Speaker 1: just everybody connecting the dots. He's moving to Florida, so
Speaker 1: talk radio has him going to the Buccaneers. They need
Speaker 1: a quarterback. Winston is a free agent arians with like
Speaker 1: late career Carson Palmer, could be the same thing all
Speaker 1: over again. Arians doesn't have much time left. But then
Speaker 1: when you look further, you're like, does he really want
Speaker 1: to go to the Bucks? To the Bucks? Really want
Speaker 1: to give up Jamis for Philip Rivers. Philip Rivers doesn't
Speaker 1: have the arm to to do Arians downfield offense. I
Speaker 1: don't see that. I actually reached out the e en
Speaker 1: and he kind of pooh pooed it and said he
Speaker 1: would he thinks they still want Jameis Winston back. I
Speaker 1: just don't think you can as a Philip Rivers in
Speaker 1: his position moved to Florida and say I'm going to
Speaker 1: now limit where all play to these three Florida teams
Speaker 1: because I agree, I don't see a natural fit. I mean,
Speaker 1: the Dolphins feel like more of a fit to take
Speaker 1: a veteran for a year if they want to, like
Speaker 1: have a quarterback grow underneath them. But I don't think
Speaker 1: that that does much for Philip Rivers or the Dolphins, right.
Speaker 1: I thought about that to it when it came to
Speaker 1: thinking of teams with Brady, because you know he had
Speaker 1: he has the connection with the staff there. But I mean,
Speaker 1: a Ryan Fitzpatrick is under contract, and then be they
Speaker 1: I think they got all these picks to get a
Speaker 1: rookie to develop, and maybe it's not easy to get
Speaker 1: to Ah. But Ta and Ryan Fitzpatrick, to me, makes
Speaker 1: a lot of sense, not to A and Philip Rivers
Speaker 1: or or Tom Brady. He is living in the Panhandle,
Speaker 1: which is like they say, Florida you point to the
Speaker 1: south markets, like Florida is huge. He's further away from
Speaker 1: Miami than he is from like Indianapolis or just eastern Alabama. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it is, it is. It's basically Alabama, Alabama, right, he's
Speaker 1: his man, his wife are a parental Alabama man. Close close,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Like we've talked about geography for three minutes.
Speaker 1: I think keep an eye out on West's colts. That
Speaker 1: is where the little buzzes is popping up. Frank Reich
Speaker 1: used to coach him. There's another assistant there that that
Speaker 1: used to be with him and loves him, and that
Speaker 1: they could do a pretty seamless swap of Brissette for
Speaker 1: Rivers an offensive line. You gotta running game. You're trying
Speaker 1: to win, now. I know I know that Rivers showing
Speaker 1: signs of decline, but that feels like an upgrade. And
Speaker 1: they don't have a high draft. Pick from like a
Speaker 1: from an ursay ownership angle, it's it would be a
Speaker 1: nice year to sell philip rivers to a end based
Speaker 1: at Lost Andrew Luck. From a business side, I think
Speaker 1: you could sell that. But the families in Florida, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I mean you take the bus to Indy. I
Speaker 1: think you're just not gonna be seeing your family that much. Right,
Speaker 1: You're gonna you're gonna be flying home on Fridays on
Speaker 1: like a jet and spending thirty six hours. I mean,
Speaker 1: how much are they really spending it together in the season.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Does the Florida Panhandle more importantly west?
Speaker 1: Is that part of the Midwest? No, that is part
Speaker 1: of the Deep South. I mean I know that area well.
Speaker 1: I would drive from New Orleans to Golf Breeze Pensacola area,
Speaker 1: where one of my good buddies in college all the time.
Speaker 1: You go through Florabama mobile, you drive through North Florida,
Speaker 1: and it's not anything like you think of Florida, like
Speaker 1: the vacation destination. North Florida is deep deep South. Uh.
Speaker 1: The article that I was getting this info from also
Speaker 1: has a paragraph that I find incredibly alarming. The Chargers
Speaker 1: have Tyrod Taylor under contract for next season and have
Speaker 1: been impressed with his play throughout the past season, and
Speaker 1: he could wind up as Los Angeles is starting quarterback.
Speaker 1: That's from mort and Schefter. I mean, can we watch
Speaker 1: out their Chargers? Come on, that's how you opened the
Speaker 1: new stadium. Hasn't have been made abundantly clear that Tyrod
Speaker 1: Taylor is a very good backup quarterback. I just I
Speaker 1: don't listen to any of this stuff in you know,
Speaker 1: late January, utter nonsense, pall me. Brady is quote open
Speaker 1: minded about playing elsewhere. Here's what he said in his
Speaker 1: weekly interview with Westwood one Radio. I'm open minded about
Speaker 1: the process. At the same time, I love playing football
Speaker 1: and I want to continue to play and do a
Speaker 1: great job. I'm looking forward to what's ahead. Whatever the
Speaker 1: future may bring, I'll embrace it with open arms. This
Speaker 1: this would be potentially the first time Greg ever he
Speaker 1: you know, takes a phone call from a different team
Speaker 1: to test the market. Not bad if you could wait
Speaker 1: until you're forty two for that to happen, that's true.
Speaker 1: And once he starts taking phone calls that are allowed,
Speaker 1: he's already gone. Because why isn't he on the free
Speaker 1: agent list? By the way, what's the contract? He's number nine? Um,
Speaker 1: he tom Brady's number nine. Doesn't become a free agent
Speaker 1: so March eighteenth, like the rest of the league. But
Speaker 1: the difference is that's the moment that the Patriots get
Speaker 1: thirteen point five million dollars on their cap, whether he
Speaker 1: signs with them or not. And so the Patriots are
Speaker 1: not signing him after free agency started. It either either
Speaker 1: they're signing him before it starts, or he's going out.
Speaker 1: So now I'm sure he'll have an idea of what
Speaker 1: kind of market because all these players and agents like
Speaker 1: they figure it out behind the scenes. Anyways, well well
Speaker 1: before uh it happens. But if he gets if he
Speaker 1: starts taking those calls and he's just open for business,
Speaker 1: he's gone. And I and I think there's an I
Speaker 1: think there's a real chance of it. Come on, you
Speaker 1: don't think. So he's earned the right to do whatever
Speaker 1: he wants. I mean, if anybody's earned the right. But
Speaker 1: who wants to watch him behind a rotten Chargers offensive
Speaker 1: line or something. Well, but nobody wants to see that.
Speaker 1: The longer this goes and the more talk around it.
Speaker 1: I really think it's about do the Patriots want him,
Speaker 1: And I think the answer is probably not if they
Speaker 1: have to pay him um a going rate for quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: which is amazing. But I think the answer is unless
Speaker 1: he's willing to take a pretty big discount, which he
Speaker 1: had to after winning Super Bowls and after winning m vps,
Speaker 1: they didn't pay him what he was worth. So unless
Speaker 1: he's willing to do that again, and maybe he will
Speaker 1: because he doesn't see a good option out there, I
Speaker 1: think he's gone. I don't think Belichick's gonna pay him,
Speaker 1: and I think Belichick might look at this year is
Speaker 1: a beautiful time to say he signed those contracts. He
Speaker 1: could have held out or fought for more money when
Speaker 1: he accepted those contracts. So that's not That's not all
Speaker 1: on New England, but I I think Belichick is one
Speaker 1: factor here. But I cannot I wonder if if Robert
Speaker 1: Craft could even he's the big swallow the concept of
Speaker 1: watching Tom Brady on the Cults on the charge. I
Speaker 1: know he said he'd rather just Tom Brady retire. I
Speaker 1: just think that this is the owner of the team
Speaker 1: that is very attached to Tom Brady and the whole
Speaker 1: Jimmy g Thing went to own because of loyalty to
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. In aging tom Brady, it just belichicks one person,
Speaker 1: but he's not running the team. I just nobody wants
Speaker 1: to see Tom Brady getting his ass kicked in some
Speaker 1: weird uniform for a year. It's the worst way that
Speaker 1: you can see a lot of these teams talking themselves
Speaker 1: into him. That's where I haven't have Should we save
Speaker 1: that from the agency? All right? Put a stick a
Speaker 1: pin in that. Let's move on the NFL to test
Speaker 1: two potential rule changes in the Pro Bowl. Here they are,
Speaker 1: I'm reading this for the first time. The second one
Speaker 1: is a team may elect to give Team BE the
Speaker 1: ball at the team b's twenty five yard line, beginning
Speaker 1: a new series of downs with the first and ten. Oh.
Speaker 1: That's after a successful bield goal or extra point attempt.
Speaker 1: Number two, Team A may elect to take the ball
Speaker 1: at its own twenty five yard line for a fourth
Speaker 1: and fifteen play. If Team A is successful in making
Speaker 1: this sounds very familiar making a first down, Team A
Speaker 1: will maintain position uh possession, and a new series of
Speaker 1: downs will continue as normal. If Team A is unsuccessful
Speaker 1: in making a first down, The result will be a
Speaker 1: turnover on downs and Team B will take possession at
Speaker 1: the dead ball spot. This is from last year, wasn't it.
Speaker 1: It was a rule proposal at the owners meetings that
Speaker 1: came up as UH an effort to kind of make
Speaker 1: the game we're interesting and get a get rid of
Speaker 1: onside kicks, which they're kind of getting rid of. Anyways.
Speaker 1: I think it's really interesting. You take a fourth and
Speaker 1: fifteen basically when you're down ten at your own twenty five,
Speaker 1: instead of taking, you know, going for an onside kick.
Speaker 1: Sign me up. I love it. I mean I I
Speaker 1: would imagine both coaches have essentially been ordered to dial
Speaker 1: this up once or more than once in this game,
Speaker 1: because why not, let's see it in action. I I
Speaker 1: do think the on side kick has become such a
Speaker 1: low percentage play at this point that you don't even
Speaker 1: have to do this. If they if they ever became
Speaker 1: a rule, and it wasn't just only you can only
Speaker 1: use it in the last five minutes of each half
Speaker 1: or something. Why there's gonna be some wild team out
Speaker 1: there that, like a kid in Madden, tries to dial
Speaker 1: this up over and over and over and hold onto possession.
Speaker 1: For like straight minutes. That's what I try to do.
Speaker 1: I have another imagine the chief Imagine the Chiefs do.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you can, if you can convert two
Speaker 1: of that three, you won't. You don't start the game. Nothing.
Speaker 1: The Titans never even have the ball. How about this option?
Speaker 1: This is all fun, but this is all malarkey. What
Speaker 1: if you just got rid of that on side uh
Speaker 1: kick rule? Tweak they made a couple of years ago
Speaker 1: that made it impossible again in the first place. Yeah,
Speaker 1: after your safety reasons they did so. By the way,
Speaker 1: it was kind of all out. It was kind of
Speaker 1: always impossible. I'm not involved in this. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: with every generation, the foot comes out of football even more. Uh.
Speaker 1: Nice way to put a button on at Wes liked it.
Speaker 1: Speaking of Wes, the Bengals, they got the number one
Speaker 1: overall pick. Wes is ready to dive back in and
Speaker 1: look at this guy. You got the kid Joe Burrow
Speaker 1: at l s U. Who's more excited uh than all
Speaker 1: those the Westling family members and everybody else on the
Speaker 1: west side of Cincinnati. This kid is the future and
Speaker 1: Ohio native. The kid is There was a report that
Speaker 1: Cincinnati had no intention of trading the top draft pick,
Speaker 1: and they better not um ostensibly with the purpose of
Speaker 1: using it to select the Heisman Trophy winner Burrow, but
Speaker 1: player Bengals Director of player Personnel Duke Tobin said Monday
Speaker 1: that the Bengals are nowhere near making such an evaluation.
Speaker 1: That's news to me. Well, even when a generational passer
Speaker 1: like Peyton Manning came out, Bill Pullian still did his
Speaker 1: due diligence, still thought do I draft Ryan Leef or
Speaker 1: do I draft Peyton mann And he still did the research.
Speaker 1: And that's what a smart team has to You don't
Speaker 1: have to tell anybody what your intentions are. Right, and
Speaker 1: Chase Young is out there. This guy, if if he
Speaker 1: is every bit as good as people think he is,
Speaker 1: like a generational pass rusher, you at least have to
Speaker 1: look into it. So five years later people aren't thinking
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow flopped. Why do you why do you you
Speaker 1: consider Chase Young? Well, if they ever passed on Joe
Speaker 1: Burrow and he became what people think they're that's sir. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just closed the shut down the entire operation. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying Joe Burrow will flop. I'm just saying, no,
Speaker 1: I believe. I also think the NFL wes just guarantee
Speaker 1: it would be very Bengals for Zach Taylor to fall
Speaker 1: in love with some second round quarterback at this year's
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. And oh, I hope not. I mean I
Speaker 1: it finally a group of a group of players that
Speaker 1: listens to me. I love this Senior Bowl. And you
Speaker 1: know he's you used to love Za. I love him.
Speaker 1: I just making random shots. I at the a f C.
Speaker 1: North has reloaded at quarterback in a pretty crazy way.
Speaker 1: And I'm not even pointing to the Browns at this point.
Speaker 1: I don't know what will happen with Baker Mayfield, but
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson and if they get Joe Burrow and Cincinnati Steers,
Speaker 1: well that's the one They've They've got issues. They've reloaded
Speaker 1: in a crazy way too, uh with your type. Finally,
Speaker 1: in the news, Richard Sherman and Darrell Reeves, they've kind
Speaker 1: of beefed over the years, the great Niners cornerback in
Speaker 1: the former Jets Bucks and Patriots and Jets cornerback Darell Reevs.
Speaker 1: And during the NFC Title Game after Davante Adams beat
Speaker 1: Sherman on a long completion, Revis took a photo of
Speaker 1: his television and tweeted out fear of getting beat and
Speaker 1: man to man coverage every snap, every play. The fact
Speaker 1: that he doesn't travel as a cornerback is lame, except
Speaker 1: the challenge is the best and shut Adams down the
Speaker 1: entire game. Do it for the game of football. Stop
Speaker 1: hiding in a cover three zone and Richard Sherman, as
Speaker 1: the kids say, clapped back, got it. Ricky. I would
Speaker 1: go in on this has been but I have a
Speaker 1: Super Bowl to prepare for. Enjoy the view from the couch.
Speaker 1: Your ninth year looked a lot different than this. L
Speaker 1: m a O laughing my rs off. I mean you
Speaker 1: want to get into a battle of wits with Richard Sherman.
Speaker 1: Durrell Reeves is not prepared for that battle. Maybe a
Speaker 1: much better cornerback one on one, but in a battle
Speaker 1: of which although it lose to Sherman, right, although he
Speaker 1: happened to, he was just taking shots without knowing what
Speaker 1: he was talking about. He happened. In his ninth year,
Speaker 1: Darrell Reeves won a Super Bowl and was the first
Speaker 1: team All Pro and had the most turn up four
Speaker 1: turnovers of any team in the league. So Sherman couldn't
Speaker 1: have if no one cares about whether that the burn
Speaker 1: was like remotely accurate. Darrell Rivis was better than Richard Sherman,
Speaker 1: and he's sitting on the couch and taking pot shots
Speaker 1: at someone else like a loser. Yeah he is. And
Speaker 1: uh my favorite comment was like the first Twitter, you know, Greg,
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta stop. Yes, the Patriot season was
Speaker 1: his eighth year. So what did he do with his
Speaker 1: with his name? He did, that's what he signed a
Speaker 1: huge deal with the Jets. I think he was a
Speaker 1: pro bowler, but he was in a little bit decline.
Speaker 1: But he's the Sherman's long. Sherman wrong in the sense
Speaker 1: that he's probably thinking about the second year Revas had
Speaker 1: the last I knew he was a pro bowler, someone
Speaker 1: had pointed out. But that's my bad. I mean it
Speaker 1: just looks petty to me. I don't I get it people.
Speaker 1: This This probably was the highest ranks story in NFL
Speaker 1: dot com. I mean, that's like he does why does
Speaker 1: he Why does he have such a think about It's like, oh,
Speaker 1: like you're a you're a zone you play on a
Speaker 1: team that has zone defense, and you play zone defense
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, that's that's everyone in the NFL does.
Speaker 1: That's like your job. I get why he doesn't, because
Speaker 1: he's saying, you know, for the purity of football, Like
Speaker 1: for the game, it's a better game if you're playing
Speaker 1: man demand and you're good enough to do it. But
Speaker 1: he's like the only one who's been able to do that.
Speaker 1: It's just the way of tooting his own horse. I'm
Speaker 1: not in the news cycle, have not been for years,
Speaker 1: but now I am. I loved derrel Rivas. I hate
Speaker 1: the way his career ended, but he was one of
Speaker 1: the grades of all time. But why engage in this.
Speaker 1: You should have respect for another early thirties something cornerback
Speaker 1: who's at the top of the profession. What are we
Speaker 1: doing here? I agree? Well it um, that's what's happening
Speaker 1: in the news, Ricky, get us a plug in for
Speaker 1: next Thursday night. Oh yeah, tickets are going fast for
Speaker 1: our Miami Improv show Miami, Miamis and make sure you
Speaker 1: guys get tickets. We've been tweeting them out there on
Speaker 1: our Instagram. It is Miami Improv Slash Events. Come hang
Speaker 1: out with us in Miami. I heard some bubbling. Good
Speaker 1: job Ricky. I heard some bubbling up on on the
Speaker 1: Twitter verse. You know when you did your live show
Speaker 1: in London, sold out in less than a minute, and
Speaker 1: you're still hawking tickets for this. Well, maybe you're not
Speaker 1: aware that the Miami improv seats on thousand people, right,
Speaker 1: So before you talk like Drrell Reavis or Richard Sherman,
Speaker 1: just have the background back check, please. We also have
Speaker 1: way more listeners in London. I mean that's no no,
Speaker 1: uh surprise, Miami, come come, correct. You're not in the
Speaker 1: one of the American cities, which makes sense because as
Speaker 1: you know, it's a totally spread out city that doesn't
Speaker 1: love its pro sports. Right all right, I mean it
Speaker 1: could have just left it. Dan was trying to come
Speaker 1: from a different angle there, but unmasked also on Wednesday,
Speaker 1: we're bringing it up. We're coming from that angle, and
Speaker 1: I gotta be honest. Wednesday of that week, you can
Speaker 1: go downtown to South Beach and see Greg Swim live
Speaker 1: with the Dolphins. Yeah, no tickets for that, that's just
Speaker 1: sort of just just just follow your Google Maps to
Speaker 1: South Beach. You'll see me there. Go to the pool.
Speaker 1: You could be great. I'm right right there on the left. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, here we go. It's time any blowback by
Speaker 1: the way about the d and the mass potatoes. No,
Speaker 1: it was beeped out on our podcast. What about your comments?
Speaker 1: Aimed at my wife at the end of Was there
Speaker 1: an apology after the show? I missed it, but I
Speaker 1: heard it's not that. It's not not then? Why do
Speaker 1: about a phone call to uh? That would be awkward?
Speaker 1: Is this? Yeah? How about hat in hand at the
Speaker 1: front door? I stand if anything, she would give me
Speaker 1: like a fist bump. She was like, yeah, I was
Speaker 1: ready to go and get Mark com. You guys are
Speaker 1: honking too much? How are we back? Here? Was Simone
Speaker 1: doing the Friday Night Lights mom thing with the wineglass
Speaker 1: and the living room just spinning explosions and sky plane.
Speaker 1: I know that's what you want me to tell you
Speaker 1: was happening, But I came home to a pretty controlled household.
Speaker 1: That's actually kind of disappointing, a little disappointed. All right,
Speaker 1: let's get into it. The top twenty five NFL free
Speaker 1: agents of Colin. This is the headline, folks, no shortage
Speaker 1: of intriguing QBS. Now is that your headline? Greg Or?
Speaker 1: Was that something they put on there? And not mine
Speaker 1: you sign off on, don't you kind of just find
Speaker 1: out right when it's okay? I did the headlines. You
Speaker 1: can't worry about what you can't control, you know, That's
Speaker 1: what I said. Used to be a good headline writer.
Speaker 1: I used to be into the headline. H Yeah, except
Speaker 1: for when whenever you had to write or which bost headlined.
Speaker 1: By the way, a lot of a lot of you
Speaker 1: they try to they try to fill it up, fill
Speaker 1: up the whole line. It's annoying. So Greg, you um,
Speaker 1: as you're putting together and doing the research on this
Speaker 1: and then going through the process of figuring out that order,
Speaker 1: what kind of jumped out to you as you were
Speaker 1: doing it from a kind of a a macro perspective. Well,
Speaker 1: Number one, that it was. It's the toughest year to
Speaker 1: rank these players, first of all, because there's more big
Speaker 1: names than I can ever remember in the top twelve.
Speaker 1: But more more to the point, how how do you
Speaker 1: you know, ranked Tom Brady and Philip Rivers versus like
Speaker 1: Joe Tuney and Byron Jones. It's just this sort of
Speaker 1: you know, meta it's it's a question that cannot be answered.
Speaker 1: But I struggled with it, partly because a like Tom
Speaker 1: Brady is still worth more to a team that could
Speaker 1: use a quarterback. Then I think Byron Jones would be
Speaker 1: to a team maybe that needs a cornerback, but there's
Speaker 1: only a few teams out or that Tom Brady would help.
Speaker 1: And Byron Jones and guys like Joe Touney, who would
Speaker 1: be a plug and play guard for basically any team,
Speaker 1: they could help almost every team. So it it was
Speaker 1: very hard to to figure out because you look at Rivers,
Speaker 1: I'm giving him a bonus that he's younger than Tom Brady,
Speaker 1: like he's got maybe a longer runway and he's thirty
Speaker 1: eight years old. It's all, it's all impossible. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: look at a guy like Drew Brees and think, Okay,
Speaker 1: he's got a thirty yard arm in a dome with
Speaker 1: no wind, what's he worth at Chicago Bears when come November?
Speaker 1: You just have to sit him on the sideline because
Speaker 1: his arm is not strong enough to cut through the wind.
Speaker 1: I'm a little I'm a little higher on breeze, I
Speaker 1: think than you are. If you if you put him
Speaker 1: on the Bears, I do think they'd be a much
Speaker 1: better team. They'd figure it out. No, I'm not talking
Speaker 1: about on the road. I'm talking about when wind is
Speaker 1: actually blowing, like more than four miles an hour. I
Speaker 1: guess Risky not too great in the wind either. Just
Speaker 1: throwing that out there. Absolutely, Tom Brady at nine, I'm
Speaker 1: another in another world. I'm curious were would Brady be
Speaker 1: in the same exercise if we were coming off last
Speaker 1: season where he had the nice playoff run but was
Speaker 1: in showing those sides as well, would he have been
Speaker 1: in the top five? Yeah? Probably, And he was yet
Speaker 1: lower on this list for a while, and he eventually
Speaker 1: they inched up as I went. And I have a
Speaker 1: feeling West might rank them lower. Am I right? West? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So I do not want a forty three or whatever.
Speaker 1: I don't want a quarterback who can't get out of
Speaker 1: the way of pressure, because what we've seen over the
Speaker 1: last few years is that those guys struggle. I find
Speaker 1: it interesting both PFF and Greg Badard. Greg Badard, who
Speaker 1: does a good job at Boston Sports General breaking down
Speaker 1: every all the film of Tom Brady had him ranked
Speaker 1: higher for the two thousand nineteen season than he did
Speaker 1: for two thousand eighteen. So did PF. And I think
Speaker 1: that's been lost a little. He wasn't that great last
Speaker 1: year either. He had a very good playoff run. But
Speaker 1: I probably say he's been a top fifteen, top twelve
Speaker 1: quarterback both years and it wasn't like a huge decline
Speaker 1: this year. Is the Patriots that declined? If I was
Speaker 1: all right right above Brady. We mentioned Drew Reas, He's
Speaker 1: at number eight on this list, and I guess it
Speaker 1: it really it depends on what you thought about what
Speaker 1: you saw from Breeze this year. But you know, you
Speaker 1: have Yannick and Gockway ahead of him. Ryan Tannehill's ahead
Speaker 1: of him, you have Shack Barrett ahead of I mean,
Speaker 1: I feel like if you were a team looking for
Speaker 1: a quarterback and thought you you had a chance to
Speaker 1: get over the hump Drew Brees, you would be doing
Speaker 1: cartwheels that to have him join your team in the
Speaker 1: short term on a one or two year deal. I'm
Speaker 1: with you over over Ryan's I liked, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: suddenly that was the most was trying to do Tannehill
Speaker 1: versus those guys, and this was done before that last
Speaker 1: playoff run, and I'm open to that being different, But
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think Yannick and Gockway helps thirty
Speaker 1: two teams? How many teams? You know? How many brings
Speaker 1: Payton with you? Right, Drew Brees, it has to be
Speaker 1: the right situation. It's it's sort of impossible to ranked
Speaker 1: quarterbacks versus any position because they just matter so much more.
Speaker 1: Where does PFF have Drew Brees after twenty? Where was he?
Speaker 1: Was he in the top ten? I like, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of hate and Drew Brees right now. No, I
Speaker 1: think it's realistic about what his arm is. Sure, sign
Speaker 1: them for a warm weather team or a dome team,
Speaker 1: but I don't think you can play him and expect
Speaker 1: great results in December in a cold weather city. Um,
Speaker 1: let me just for for framework. But your quarterbacks is
Speaker 1: where where? I surprised. That's the whole Tannehill over Breeze
Speaker 1: and Brady thing. I don't I don't know. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have to think about that a little more. And you
Speaker 1: almost like take these quarterbacks and break them out in
Speaker 1: their own category, because I have no issue with all
Speaker 1: the way you rank these. But I think it's just
Speaker 1: your eyes are all over the place reading this because
Speaker 1: you're seeing these huge, mega names in the middle of
Speaker 1: these in terms of like how guys are going to
Speaker 1: get paid though, which is not how it's done. But
Speaker 1: Chris Jones will make more money, then Tom, Let me
Speaker 1: read the top ten here, just so the listeners have
Speaker 1: this frame a little bit. I know they're going to
Speaker 1: read the story too, of course at NFL dot Com.
Speaker 1: So doubted to free agents one, dock to Chris Jones three,
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper four Clowney five, Shack Barret six, Ryan Tannehill seven,
Speaker 1: In Gockway eight Breese nine, Brady Justin Simmons at ten.
Speaker 1: Now one more thought. I just wanted to get out
Speaker 1: about Breeze because you've got a factor in the you know,
Speaker 1: the money end of this as well. Would I rather
Speaker 1: have a Drew Brees at age thirty nine on a
Speaker 1: one or two year deal or Dak Prescott's age seven
Speaker 1: through thirty two year old season at like the highest
Speaker 1: rate in the league for a quarterback or around there.
Speaker 1: I would rather have forty one. All right, Well, who
Speaker 1: do you think Terry Jones would rather have? You think
Speaker 1: he'd rather have Drew Brees for two years and not
Speaker 1: resigned Dak Prescott. I'm just talking about what the value
Speaker 1: on the market is I would rather have Drew Brees
Speaker 1: on a short term deal than invest a ton of
Speaker 1: money in Dak Prescott as a superstar quarterback over half
Speaker 1: a decade. I'd rather have Dak because I think having
Speaker 1: a long term superstar quarterback is the last valuable thing
Speaker 1: you can have. Yeah, I do think Dak Prescott had
Speaker 1: a better year than Ryan Tannehill on balance unbalanced, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean per game maybe not. They're they're in the
Speaker 1: same ballpark and Doc I've seen a lot more uh
Speaker 1: from over the years. The Tannehill thing is tricky because
Speaker 1: it was just a ten game sample and it was
Speaker 1: really impressive. But I think the Titans will be happy
Speaker 1: to use one of their tags on Tannehill because you
Speaker 1: don't have to then you don't have to pay them
Speaker 1: eighty million dollars guaranteed. And let's let's see him for
Speaker 1: some Because when I was trying to think of teams
Speaker 1: for Tom Brady, I mean, the Titans are are right
Speaker 1: up near the top if they if they wanted to
Speaker 1: go for Tom because John Robinson was with the Patriots,
Speaker 1: Mike Brabell obviously was a teammate with the Patriot and
Speaker 1: they have a team that is looking to get over
Speaker 1: the top. If they thought Brady was a better one
Speaker 1: year option than Tannehill, it's not that crazy. If I
Speaker 1: was the Titans, I would want to run back Derrick
Speaker 1: Henry and Tannehill and try to build more around him
Speaker 1: and see what that looks like next year. That's a
Speaker 1: great call, because if this Tannehill thing didn't happen, which
Speaker 1: really shocked everybody, everybody would be pointing at Tennessee with
Speaker 1: Rabele there, but now makes a lot of sense, good
Speaker 1: old line. It's still not that crazy that they would
Speaker 1: at least consider it. But I think the way they
Speaker 1: finished the year, to your point, West, I think they
Speaker 1: would have to want to see Tannehill in that uniform
Speaker 1: for another sixteen games at least. A J. Green just
Speaker 1: misses the top ten, which it's surprising, but I also
Speaker 1: get it. He just missed a full year. He's on
Speaker 1: the wrong side of thirty. We've talked about that name
Speaker 1: where he would make a lot of sense to go
Speaker 1: as um a guy could be a final piece for
Speaker 1: a team that needs wide receiver help. Well, he said
Speaker 1: he would like to stay in Cincinnati. The Bengals. Duke
Speaker 1: Tobin told rap Sheet that they want a J. Greenback
Speaker 1: and and franchise tech could be an option there because
Speaker 1: especially if you if Joe Burrow is coming in and
Speaker 1: A J. Green is excited about that, you know, if
Speaker 1: they tag him then then it's not as fun to
Speaker 1: watch what happens because I don't think the year off
Speaker 1: would hurt him that much relatively in terms of the
Speaker 1: teams that would be after me. If you look at
Speaker 1: the teams that could use an outside receiver, I mean
Speaker 1: they're pretty great. The Ravens after seeing him twice year,
Speaker 1: you're telling me they wouldn't want him. The Patriots need
Speaker 1: an outside receiver. The Raiders are gonna be looking to
Speaker 1: spend money. They could use an outside receiver. The Eagles
Speaker 1: really could use an outside like I just even though
Speaker 1: A J. Green hasn't been a J. Green for a
Speaker 1: little bit, I just feel like he would have a
Speaker 1: monster market regardless. And there's so much cap space this year,
Speaker 1: it's outrageous. There's teams almost every team has more cap
Speaker 1: space than they can use. Jenevan Clowney might be the
Speaker 1: highest paid player in the NFL, I feel like, or
Speaker 1: the defensive player I cannot believe. And I know running
Speaker 1: backs can't get paid in the open market. But I
Speaker 1: guess what is this? It's the top free agents or
Speaker 1: I know you're obviously factoring position, But Leonard Williams of
Speaker 1: the Giants, you have an eighteen and you have Derrick
Speaker 1: Henry who has been the best running back in the
Speaker 1: world for a while. Are you going buy money or
Speaker 1: earning potential here now? Henry at twenty? When you when
Speaker 1: I first saw this couple of days ago, that jump
Speaker 1: out at me. But what do you pay him? That?
Speaker 1: I kind of get it though, because it's like, I
Speaker 1: don't again, I don't know what metrics you're using. Is
Speaker 1: he is he best player on this list? No? I
Speaker 1: just I feel like much higher. I feel like the
Speaker 1: running game is he is an exceptional player that is
Speaker 1: coming off a incredibly high workload who doesn't help you
Speaker 1: on third downs really, which is kind of crucial. I mean,
Speaker 1: and you can generate like a running game is a
Speaker 1: function of the team more than the player for the
Speaker 1: most part. That that is not where I would want
Speaker 1: to be spending my money. Look at all the running
Speaker 1: backs have been paid lately, and almost everyone is regrettable
Speaker 1: left Bell Talk, Gurley, Zeke Elliott didn't have a great year,
Speaker 1: David Johnson. I mean, you're gonna pay a guy who
Speaker 1: just have four touches. I think that's the conundrum. But
Speaker 1: I mean, like with tannehill I would just defind the Titans,
Speaker 1: find a way to bring the whole band back and
Speaker 1: see where you are year from now. I I agree,
Speaker 1: and they well, they're both tough, but it's the toughest too.
Speaker 1: It's one of the two toughest positions Tannehillen and Derrick
Speaker 1: Henry on this list or a conundrum pay one so
Speaker 1: that this year is the final year of the collective
Speaker 1: Bargaining Agreement and there are different rules, and there are
Speaker 1: a lot of different rules in this year, some of
Speaker 1: which I can't wrap my head around, but one of
Speaker 1: them I get, which is that there are two tags
Speaker 1: available for the first time ever. I believe you can
Speaker 1: use a franchise tag and a transition tag. Transition tag
Speaker 1: means you just have the ability to match the offer.
Speaker 1: And I could see the Titans using those two tags
Speaker 1: for those two players because they're kind of the perfect
Speaker 1: players to keep one more year that you don't want
Speaker 1: to give Henry the girly contract, but sign me up
Speaker 1: for I would be happily pay them one year sixteen
Speaker 1: million dollars. That's where I think the running back thing
Speaker 1: gets a little too crazy. Don't pay them at all.
Speaker 1: It's like, no, I'll pay them for one year. I
Speaker 1: just don't want to essentially at another team do the
Speaker 1: negotiation for you and then decide in teams don't generally
Speaker 1: like using the trans transition tag for that reason, and
Speaker 1: it would be it would be risky, But I don't
Speaker 1: know which player you would use it on in that case.
Speaker 1: I would tend to think Henry Henry, and if someone
Speaker 1: signs the way, you're gone. But maybe it's Tannehill too
Speaker 1: that you just let someone else do. And who's gonna
Speaker 1: swoop in and craft a massive contract from Ryan Tannehill?
Speaker 1: I love what he did this year, but it's like
Speaker 1: he fits the Titans. Where where are the other landing
Speaker 1: spots GM fallen in love with? I can see it,
Speaker 1: But it's like I could easily see them reaching an
Speaker 1: agreement with him, so they could have the tag available
Speaker 1: for Henry right, and they also have Jack Conklin, who
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna want to keep it right tackle
Speaker 1: to um is there a player because a lot of
Speaker 1: times with this exercise, as fun as the names are,
Speaker 1: when you factor in the franchise tag and all that,
Speaker 1: when deals just getting done, um, the amount of the
Speaker 1: players actually end up changing teams, it's not as many
Speaker 1: big names. Who's a kind of a bigger name here
Speaker 1: that you think falls through where he doesn't get franchise,
Speaker 1: where he doesn't end up getting a new deal, and
Speaker 1: he moves somebody that we haven't talked about yet, perhaps
Speaker 1: somebody that we talk to. Bowny I think will move
Speaker 1: because he he's like gonna get Khalil mac type money
Speaker 1: because there's so much money just out there in the market,
Speaker 1: and he his agent made the Seahawks agreed and not
Speaker 1: franchise tag him as part of that trade. Wasn't like
Speaker 1: Clowney way more of a risk than Derrick Henry in
Speaker 1: terms of money, But how much money you have to
Speaker 1: pay him relatively you have to pay Derrick Henry and
Speaker 1: the injury risk and all that, there's a case to
Speaker 1: be made. Uh. I think he'll get out there. I
Speaker 1: don't totally know if a Mari Cooper stays with the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: I think with the way that duck that they can't
Speaker 1: use the tag, you know, if they have to use
Speaker 1: the tag on Doc, I could just couldn't you just
Speaker 1: see a Mario Joe Douglass on that one. Once you
Speaker 1: get to this part of the year, if you get
Speaker 1: to the market, it's like you're gone. So I don't
Speaker 1: know that the Cowboys have some work to do with
Speaker 1: They also have Byron Jones. I don't think they would
Speaker 1: prioritize him ahead of a Marie Cooper, but Cooper someone
Speaker 1: I think could change teams. Got see him staying. I
Speaker 1: just I just don't ever see Jerry losing his stars.
Speaker 1: Joe Tuney, who's a guard on the pages, that's not
Speaker 1: a big name, He's gonna be gone. I'd rather sign
Speaker 1: these guards than some of these receivers. Hunter Henry, I
Speaker 1: think is a fun one. Austin Hooper is out there
Speaker 1: potentially too, so unless those guys get tagged, which is possible.
Speaker 1: Uh that some good tight ends out there. Feel like
Speaker 1: Hunter Henry was drafted like four weeks ago. I mean
Speaker 1: the time is I feel like there's been about fourteen.
Speaker 1: A C. L. Tears as well. He's a buyer beware guy,
Speaker 1: but a guy that's obviously flashed. I can tell you
Speaker 1: a couple of guys who will be moving up the
Speaker 1: list once I vote, are moving some dead drushers up
Speaker 1: this list. Judean and Bud Duprie will be voted up
Speaker 1: higher than they are on here. Yeah, for both of them,
Speaker 1: it was a little bit of one year wonder thing,
Speaker 1: just like Zadarius Smith. Yeah, but to me, no, we
Speaker 1: had Smith a lot higher, right, but he was a
Speaker 1: one year wonder going and I get it. But Judean,
Speaker 1: I think watching them is a great player, but he's
Speaker 1: nowhere near as a dairy said dude. Pre's interesting because
Speaker 1: if you're just basing this year, he was incredible and
Speaker 1: the Steelers desperately won him back exactly anything else West
Speaker 1: that you're seeing. No, it was a great job by
Speaker 1: Greg in a very challenging year to do this. What
Speaker 1: about famous Jamis Winston. I feel like there would be
Speaker 1: a war over the soul of Jamis, who's at nineteen
Speaker 1: on this list. West would probably want him in the
Speaker 1: range of four hundred to seven hundred, I would imagine
Speaker 1: I probably put him much closer to like thirty to forty.
Speaker 1: Why do I need to sign a guy who I
Speaker 1: want to replace immediately? This? This is I don't want
Speaker 1: him as where we're on Earth? Does he live? This
Speaker 1: is a strategic mistake. You ever you know, you ever
Speaker 1: you know with your significant other, with rife, there's some
Speaker 1: battles that you you figure like, uh, I don't need
Speaker 1: to fight this battle. I'll just meet you halfway to start,
Speaker 1: because there's something else I want to battle you on.
Speaker 1: Maybe Jamis. I figured by putting him around twenty, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm already knowing what's coming from West. I'd love to
Speaker 1: put him even higher. Frank lay and I thought, Okay,
Speaker 1: this prevents anything. It was a bad move because I'm
Speaker 1: still getting the battle. I might as well have just
Speaker 1: he you think he's gonna get more money than Kirk Cousins. Philosophically,
Speaker 1: where do you rank players you don't want on your team.
Speaker 1: That's where it comes down to. Nobody wants Jamis Winston
Speaker 1: is the quarterback. My my point for Jamis is if
Speaker 1: if he actually got to the open market, I just
Speaker 1: think people would be astounded with the contract he would get.
Speaker 1: I do think it'd be better than Kirk Cousins. I
Speaker 1: just think I do not because I want to know
Speaker 1: what team that is that You've got to sell that
Speaker 1: to you two people buying tickets. What are they doing
Speaker 1: with all this cap space? What sell guy through for
Speaker 1: five thousand yards and thirty two days this past season?
Speaker 1: Which team is desperate for Jamis Winston? I'd like this exciting.
Speaker 1: He's a mess, but he is. He gives the ball
Speaker 1: away two to three to four times a game, So
Speaker 1: a Mariota type than about Chargers. You know, the Chargers
Speaker 1: and Bucks just do a swap. You take our interception machine,
Speaker 1: we'll take yours. And everybody like Winston on the Chargers
Speaker 1: is interesting that will fill the stadium. Well we still
Speaker 1: we say that about every single charg scenario At this point.
Speaker 1: It's nothing that's gonna fill tom Brady. Tom Brady could
Speaker 1: get people excited here until they're one in five and
Speaker 1: he looks like the best quarterback in the NFL. Like,
Speaker 1: why why would Tom Brady wanna I don't know, play
Speaker 1: for Anthony Lynn behind the terrible offensively? That's why when
Speaker 1: you think of the whole Brady thing, where is he
Speaker 1: really going to want to do it? There can't be
Speaker 1: that many maybe in Adianapolis if they were interest, I mean,
Speaker 1: there might be a few, but I can't imagine he's
Speaker 1: just gonna go to any team like one of the
Speaker 1: worst offensive lines in the league year after year, You're
Speaker 1: gonna put Tom Brady behind that. You're gonna go to
Speaker 1: the franchise that essentially cracked the egg onto flate Gate.
Speaker 1: I mean there's still people in that building attached to that.
Speaker 1: I mean that's the owner. Oh the cults. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: would be an an interesting landing. Good stuff. Check it
Speaker 1: out the Greg Peace on NFL dot com slash Top
Speaker 1: twenty three agents and also the upcoming piece by the
Speaker 1: scientists top one on one for you, but most importantly
Speaker 1: first time we've teased it for a couple of years.
Speaker 1: But both Mark Sessler and Dan Hansas will be putting
Speaker 1: the other our top one o two free agents on
Speaker 1: Mark and Dan dot com March, as you can find
Speaker 1: on the on the internet and West. I'm taking your
Speaker 1: comments today as an invitation next year, Monday after Division
Speaker 1: all round, while you're trying to grind that game pass,
Speaker 1: I'm calling you up and we're going to hash out
Speaker 1: these top agents. That was not something I put on
Speaker 1: the table. Um breaking news before we go. This just
Speaker 1: announced via Twitter from the Saturday Night Live handle the
Speaker 1: night before the Super Bowl. J. J. Watt will host
Speaker 1: the venerable Late night Comedy Institution Saturday Night Live musical
Speaker 1: guest Luke Combs J J. Watt, Oh, that monologue is
Speaker 1: gonna be stiffer, loots back. They'll help him with us
Speaker 1: and they'll help him out sometimes it's just that you
Speaker 1: gotta you gotta work around it. There's gonna be it
Speaker 1: would be a question and answer. There'll be a lot
Speaker 1: of other you know, he'll he'll dress and dragon stars
Speaker 1: are gonna come up during his monologue. It's not going
Speaker 1: to be him speaking for based on some history for
Speaker 1: this show. I'm just gonna say, I think he's gonna
Speaker 1: do a phenomenal Yeah, I think he's gonna be great.
Speaker 1: What would west? I know, you're not really an SNL guy, right,
Speaker 1: I'm not really a TV guy. Got you what would be?
Speaker 1: If you had to choose one SNL to watch? They
Speaker 1: announced the next two shows, So you got J. J. Watton,
Speaker 1: Luke Hombs, who sounds like a country singer but he
Speaker 1: is I don't know. Oh my god, that's right out
Speaker 1: of the country music. Will build a name for you,
Speaker 1: and then your other choice is the February eight show,
Speaker 1: which will be hosted by RuPaul and Justin Bieber as
Speaker 1: the music. Which episode are you watching? Can I read
Speaker 1: a book instead? No, you must pick. I'm watching RuPaul.
Speaker 1: I think I would do right. And that was the
Speaker 1: name out of all those who I think can bring
Speaker 1: the most work. Cover girl, work at work, covering what
Speaker 1: you could talk about it a little on the podcast
Speaker 1: could could help. Actually that Woul wouldn't be a terrible
Speaker 1: assignment for West. Bieber will do a skitter two and
Speaker 1: add some pop. I'm getting no entertainment from Biber. Bieber
Speaker 1: famously um one of the worst people ever at SNL
Speaker 1: behind the scenes. I'm a little surprised he came back,
Speaker 1: but I guess he's matured a little bit. So difficult
Speaker 1: to work with. Yeah, just not a nice person. I
Speaker 1: heard from a source close to the production. He's trying
Speaker 1: to Yeah, maybe he's trying to change that image. But
Speaker 1: I feel good about this one. J J. Watt on
Speaker 1: U S and No. I'll be watching from the hotel
Speaker 1: room in Miami. I mean, all you need to do
Speaker 1: is be in a little skit where they do everything
Speaker 1: for you and people will give you a lot of lot.
Speaker 1: It's like Eli Manning throwing the footballs at the kid,
Speaker 1: people love you and you you know SNL as I
Speaker 1: do Greg. It is littered with the carcasses of sational
Speaker 1: athletes who were asked to do almost nothing and couldn't
Speaker 1: do it, and it just it derails an entire episode
Speaker 1: when they're bad. When they're good, Joe Montana comes to mind,
Speaker 1: Peyton comes to mind. Eli did a nice job. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's okay and sometimes inspired, but when it's bad, Oh
Speaker 1: my god, go watch the Michael Phelps SNL. No, thank you, No,
Speaker 1: it's rough. I would slow down on Peyton Manning though.
Speaker 1: I've always just felt that he's not nearly as funny
Speaker 1: as everyone williams he is. But are we talking about
Speaker 1: this again? Oh this is a dangerous hot take. No,
Speaker 1: it's not at all. But if he's just not funny,
Speaker 1: I mean you put it up there that he brought
Speaker 1: life to the show or whatever. But like Michael Jordan
Speaker 1: was terrible, but there was any I guess that's because
Speaker 1: he's Michael Jordan's it was still fun just because it
Speaker 1: was he was there. I mean, I've heard the take
Speaker 1: that Peyton Manning is not funny. You're not going to
Speaker 1: get an argument from me. You find that he is funny,
Speaker 1: He's had his moments. Okay, that's all I'm not saying,
Speaker 1: like you and then do I say that he never
Speaker 1: cracked a joke, But I'm just saying it's it's the
Speaker 1: it's not on the top one thousand list of who
Speaker 1: I want to see love Ricky. I got it and
Speaker 1: I have to signing off for Quiet Storm the Old
Speaker 1: Boston Ricky Hollywood behind the Glass until Thursday. How one
Speaker 1: hour