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Speaker 1: Welcome to Part Time Genius, a production of I Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: I Guess what Will? What's that Mango? So, if you're

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Speaker 1: anything like me, you've probably noticed that there are a

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Speaker 1: lot of different dollar store chains out there, Like pretty

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Speaker 1: much everywhere you look, there's like a Dollar Tree or

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Speaker 1: a Dollar General or a Family Dollar. There's a five below.

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Speaker 1: I looked this up. There's a ninety nine cents only.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just dollar stores all the way down.

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Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, I feel like maybe I

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Speaker 1: haven't cataloged them quite as extensively as you have. I

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Speaker 1: had forgotten this was one of your hobbies. But but

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Speaker 1: I will acknowledge there are a lot of them. So

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Speaker 1: I looked into it this week, and it turns out

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Speaker 1: that even though the stores seem the same, each brand

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Speaker 1: actually targets a completely different market. So what does that

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Speaker 1: mean exactly? Dollar General A Friendly targets older customers in

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Speaker 1: more rural areas, so they've intentionally built their stores in

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Speaker 1: small towns with fewer than twenty people. And then on

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Speaker 1: the opposite side, you've got things like five Below and

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Speaker 1: it's target demographics teens and young adults, so you actually

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Speaker 1: find those in suburban shopping malls. Actually, when you mentioned

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Speaker 1: that the first time, I was I didn't remember that,

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Speaker 1: But now that you say that, I can picture these

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Speaker 1: being in shopping malls. So what about Dollar Tree and

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Speaker 1: what was that you said? Family Dollar? Like, I know

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Speaker 1: I've seen both of those around. What who do they target?

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Speaker 1: So what's weird is they're actually owned by the same company.

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Speaker 1: Dollar Tree bought Family Dollar back in two thousand fifteen,

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Speaker 1: for I believe it's a nine billion individual dollars and

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Speaker 1: a huge reason for that, biot was because Dollar Tree

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Speaker 1: caters to middle income shoppers and Family Dollar goes after

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Speaker 1: the lower income ones, and the company wanted both markets. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's funny, but I I feel like we do sort

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Speaker 1: of treat these dollar chains interchangeably, like they're just kind

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Speaker 1: of there. You You really would never guess that behind

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Speaker 1: the scenes they were playing this pretty intricate game with

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Speaker 1: each other, like carving up the market in the way

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Speaker 1: that they are. Yeah, there's actually way more going on

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Speaker 1: with dollar stores than people might guess from you know,

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Speaker 1: how they turn to profit, whether one dollar steaks are

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Speaker 1: really a good deal after all? So why don't we

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Speaker 1: dig in? Y he Their podcast listeners welcome to part

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Speaker 1: time genius. I'm Will Pearson and it's always I'm joined

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Speaker 1: by my good friend Manes Ticketer and on the other

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Speaker 1: side of that soundproof glass testing out his latest fine

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Speaker 1: from the dollar store. That's our friend and producer Lowell Berlante.

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Speaker 1: And what a fine this was. I mean, hold the

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Speaker 1: box up again, low I need to see it just

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Speaker 1: a little bit higher. So it's basically a Nettie pot,

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Speaker 1: except it's called a Yetti pot for some reason, and

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Speaker 1: on the front called it a little bit closer. The

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Speaker 1: front of the box shows a couple of what I

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Speaker 1: presume are meant to be yettis wearing a teapot up

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Speaker 1: its nose. It's it's kind of a weird, but I

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Speaker 1: would definitely pay two dollars for that twice twice as much.

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Speaker 1: So I definitely want to talk about some of the

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Speaker 1: other strange stuff that turns up, you know, at dollar stores.

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Speaker 1: But why don't we start by getting a sense for

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Speaker 1: just how big a success story dollar stores really are

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Speaker 1: so they don't get a ton of respect. But in

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Speaker 1: doing the research, Gate basically pointed out that they're kind

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Speaker 1: of the unsung kings of retail. Yeah, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: if this is true, but it feels like there are

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Speaker 1: more dollar stores now than there were when when we

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Speaker 1: were growing up. It's definitely true. So dollar stores have

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Speaker 1: been a fixture of American strip malls since the nineteen fifties,

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Speaker 1: but one of their biggest booms came during the Great

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Speaker 1: Recession of two thousand seven, and as the economy declined,

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Speaker 1: dollar stores sales went way way up, and it resulted

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Speaker 1: in this swell of like news stores opening up all

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Speaker 1: over the country. But the really surprising part is that

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Speaker 1: this popularity hasn't worn off like dollar stores just keep

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Speaker 1: on thriving. And in fact, between two thousand ten and

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Speaker 1: two thousand thirteen, the Family Dollar chain opened fifteen hundred

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Speaker 1: news stores, which is more than one a day for

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Speaker 1: four years in a row. Holy cow. And so I

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Speaker 1: was guessing insane. Yeah, I'm guessing it wasn't just a

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Speaker 1: Family Dollar doing this too. Yeah. So the other chains

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Speaker 1: like Dollar Tree and Dollar General they were expanding to.

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Speaker 1: Two thousand thirteen ended up being this banner year for

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Speaker 1: dollar stores, And in July of that year, so many

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Speaker 1: new locations open that it averaged out to one new

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Speaker 1: store opening every six hours all month long. That's interesting.

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Speaker 1: It does feel like too many dollar stores if we're

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Speaker 1: being so how many nights? You don't? You disagree strongly said, so,

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Speaker 1: how many are we up to now? So all told,

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Speaker 1: there are more than thirty thousand dollar stores in the

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Speaker 1: US right now, And according to Forest, that's more locations

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Speaker 1: than the six biggest US retailers put together. So that's

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Speaker 1: like Walmart, Walgreens, CVS, Costco, Kroger, and Home Depot that's

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Speaker 1: on this list here. So you know, the wildest part

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Speaker 1: is that analysts say new dollar stores will key popping

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Speaker 1: up like this for at least another three years before

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Speaker 1: the demand levels out. You know, I'm guessing a good

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Speaker 1: deal of that success is thanks to the strategy you

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Speaker 1: the way dollar store brands tend to divvy up the

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Speaker 1: on really like every person who might potentially shop at

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Speaker 1: a dollar store. That's right, And and dollar stores really

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Speaker 1: do have a much more mixed income clientele than you

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Speaker 1: might guess, But that comes with some issues as well,

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Speaker 1: Like one of the big concerns with having a high

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Speaker 1: number of dollar stores is that the company's mostly targets

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Speaker 1: struggling communities when opening new locations, and as a result,

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Speaker 1: a single small talent or a city neighborhood can wind

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Speaker 1: up with three or four different dollar stores but no

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Speaker 1: actual grocery stores, which obviously is an ideal, since most

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Speaker 1: dollar stores don't carry fresh fruits or vegetables or meats. Alright,

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Speaker 1: so dollar stores can and do contribute to the problem

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Speaker 1: of what we call like food deserts. But but you're

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Speaker 1: saying that high earners shop at dollar stores too, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and in much larger volume than you might expect. So

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Speaker 1: according to this two thousands sick Team report from Reuter's

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Speaker 1: twenty nine, of millennial households earning more than a hundred

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Speaker 1: of the big three dollar chains. So all together, these

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Speaker 1: think about it. But it also makes sense since everyone

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Speaker 1: you know likes a bargain. Yeah. Well, well, speaking of bargains,

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Speaker 1: that was something I wondered about this week, Like our

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Speaker 1: that no, they're really not, or at least not always so.

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Speaker 1: For example, dollar stores tend to sell milk in sixteen

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Speaker 1: a steal, but at that rate, you're actually paying eight

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Speaker 1: Maybe don't shop for milk at dollar stores. But what

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Speaker 1: you look at something like raisins or aluminum foil. Like

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Speaker 1: The trick in all of these cases is to offer

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Speaker 1: cost breakdown when they're in the aisle. But that said,

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Speaker 1: there are some dollar store products that are generally solid deals,

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Speaker 1: like toiletries paper goods, for example, and you can buy

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Speaker 1: cotton swabs for half the price that you would at

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Speaker 1: a big box store. So keep that in mind next time.

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Speaker 1: You love the idea of buying wrapping paper and just uh,

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Speaker 1: there's another dollar store perk that I learned this week,

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Speaker 1: because even though shopping at the dollar store may not

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Speaker 1: a budget. So if you're someone who enjoys going shopping,

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Speaker 1: actually think your brain for that. So whenever we anticipate

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Speaker 1: our brains respond by triggering this kick of dopamine. So

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Speaker 1: for an average shopper, the more things you buy, the

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Speaker 1: why some people become compulsive shoppers, right, Yeah, that's exactly right.

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Speaker 1: And so that's where dollar stores come in because for

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Speaker 1: So the next time you feel the urge for a

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Speaker 1: listening to part time Genius and we're talking about the

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Speaker 1: best and worst deals to be had at the dollar store. Now,

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Speaker 1: speaking of which, the time has come at last, Mango,

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Speaker 1: we need to talk about the one dollar steaks. I love,

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Speaker 1: like how offended you were by this, Like we were

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Speaker 1: talking about this beforehand. It just feels ridiculous, and it's

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Speaker 1: not like someone's actually gonna force you to eat what

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Speaker 1: it is. It's the principle of the thing, Mango. But

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Speaker 1: So we mentioned earlier that dollar stores don't usually carry

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Speaker 1: freezer section. So these four ounds boneless beef steaks are

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Speaker 1: sold preseasoned in a brine, and they're what's called you know,

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Speaker 1: the util the cut I guess, which are the parts

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Speaker 1: Dollar Tree cells are sourced from a company called Stampede

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Speaker 1: Meat Ink. I'm really jealous. I wish I had started

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Speaker 1: a company called Stampede Meeting. It's like the worst name.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like they sell steaks made from cows that

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Speaker 1: got trampled by bigger cows. Well, you never know, but

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Speaker 1: say rubber, or or maybe they just say it doesn't

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Speaker 1: cook that well. So I'm really curious. Now, so did

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Speaker 1: you find anyone who actually liked these one dollar sticks?

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Speaker 1: I did find one positive review but even then, the

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Speaker 1: one who actually bought the steak, she didn't like it.

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Speaker 1: So why is that? Why is that a positive review?

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Speaker 1: local firefighters. So they were asked to sample a butcher's cut,

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Speaker 1: Part Time Genius for myself, Mango, Gabe, and Little Thing.

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