1 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: The oven that heats up in seconds and cooks an 2 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:08,560 Speaker 1: entire meal in minutes. 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 2: What's going on. 4 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 3: I'm Rich Demiro. 5 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: This is Rich on Tech, and I'm here at a 6 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: restaurant in Westwood, California, where I'm getting a demo of 7 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: a new type of high tech oven. It's called the 8 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:21,760 Speaker 1: Brava and this thing is really neat. It's kind of like, 9 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,240 Speaker 1: you know, one of my favorite scenes in a movie 10 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: is that rehydrator scene and Back to the future too. 11 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: That's what this reminds me of because it's kind of 12 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: this new high tech way of cooking. 13 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 2: But enough of me explaining it. John Pleasants is the CEO. 14 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 2: Thanks so much for joining me. 15 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 3: Thank you, Rich. I love that analogy. I may, I may, 16 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 3: I may plagiarize that. That's okay. 17 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:41,599 Speaker 2: Has anyone ever told you that the first one? 18 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: That's literally when I got the pitch for this oven, 19 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: that's what I thought of. It was like that little 20 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 1: tiny pizza they put it in and seconds later it 21 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: comes out. 22 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 2: To that big pizza. 23 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 3: Great image. 24 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 2: Thank you so describe the Brava oven, like, what is 25 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 2: this thing? 26 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 3: Right? So it is a smart countertop oven, but. 27 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 4: What makes it truly different is that it's cooking with 28 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,639 Speaker 4: infrared light. So think about cooking in the past, right, 29 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 4: Convection is what an oven does. Means you heat up 30 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 4: the air, you heat up the environment inside some type 31 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 4: of oven going back hundreds of years. 32 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:10,759 Speaker 2: Doesn't sound very efficient anymore. 33 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 3: Not very efficient and not very accurate. Right. 34 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 4: The temperature fluctuates a lot in ovens, and also you 35 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 4: can't target any one area of the oven. It just 36 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 4: trying to get the entire thing into one sort of 37 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 4: homogeneous temperature. Of course, people cook with conduction, which is 38 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 4: anything over fire or stovetop, when you have something cold 39 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 4: touching something. 40 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 3: Hot and the heat transfers. 41 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 4: The big invention after those two technologically was the microwave 42 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 4: sixty years ago, and of course that changed everybody's life 43 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 4: and it became ubiquitous in households. When they came out, 44 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 4: they were super expensive, thousands and thousands of dollars, and now, 45 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 4: of course you can get them incredibly cheaply at any 46 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 4: mass merchant. 47 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 2: Well Amazon just introduced one for sixty. 48 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 4: Bucks, and they can be much cheaper than that if 49 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 4: you got to like Walmart. 50 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 3: But that one, of course has a Lexento, which is 51 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 3: their main deal. 52 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 4: But microwaves are really good for some things, and they're 53 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 4: really not so good at other things. Right, they don't 54 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 4: really cook food. Their reheating is very inconsistent. And I'm 55 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 4: not here to slam microwaves. It's just that they have 56 00:01:58,280 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 4: a sort of limited function. 57 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 2: No one's ever thought of a microwave as cooking high 58 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 2: quality food. 59 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 3: It's just for heating things up. 60 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 2: Can you never serve something from a microwave to a 61 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 2: dinner party? 62 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 3: Yeah? 63 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 4: And what's actually happening with the microwave, which I get, 64 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 4: I suppose most many many people know of your audience, 65 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 4: is it's simulating water molecules. So it's pretty good for 66 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 4: doing a cup of coffee. Matter of fact, it's really 67 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 4: great at that a heating liquids. Outside of that, when 68 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:20,839 Speaker 4: you get into foods, it really starts to become much 69 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 4: less consistent. We have the fourth next big way of cooking, 70 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 4: and it's worth using infrared light. And it is a 71 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 4: little bit like cooking over an open campfire, which is 72 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 4: if you know, if the hood's not down, if it's 73 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 4: just a fire light is the main thing that's cooking. 74 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 4: The heat is just going up into the atmosphere and 75 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 4: dissipating into the air. An easy bake oven is a 76 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 4: great example of this. It was cooking with infra red light. 77 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 4: But an easy bake oven is to Brava what a 78 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 4: golf cart, which is an electric car is to a tesla. 79 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 3: Right, it is people. 80 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 4: This technology has been for around around for a long time. 81 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 4: It's the primary you know, it's a primary part of 82 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 4: physics of life. 83 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 3: But we've just harnessed it with. 84 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 4: Some very specific bulbs and then a ton of software 85 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 4: feedback loop sensors, AI machine vision that controls these lamps. 86 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 4: We have six lamps inside the oven and we're controlling 87 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 4: them very specifically to deliver the perfect food result, hopefully 88 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 4: every time. 89 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: So you've got six lights. There's also a touch screen 90 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: on the top. Yeah, tell me the function of that 91 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: touch screen. 92 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 4: That's your basic navigation. It's just like using an iPhone, 93 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 4: if you will. You go to there and we have 94 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 4: different sections. We have recipes, so our chefs have come 95 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 4: up with what we think are fantastic recipes and we'll 96 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 4: continue to add daily in perpetuity. And those tend to 97 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 4: be multi ingredient items that could be a little trickier 98 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 4: if someone didn't want to try to figure that out 99 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 4: on their own. But you can also go into combos, 100 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 4: which is simple two combinations. You can go into single ingredients, 101 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 4: so to think of it as all sweet potatoes or 102 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 4: all chicken breasts or all pork chops or whatever you 103 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 4: may be cooking versus no, I want my steak and 104 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 4: potatoes cooking at the same time, So we give you 105 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 4: the ability to toggle between those as much as you want. 106 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 4: There's also another function there where you can take control 107 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 4: the lamps yourself, So if you want to cook something 108 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 4: that we don't know, we allow some to take control 109 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 4: of the lamps and basic build what they think is 110 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 4: the perfect recipe. You can then save that and very 111 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 4: soon coming to a theater near you, you will be 112 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 4: able to share. 113 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 3: These recipes out with the community. 114 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 4: So everybody who's using Brava can basically be a chef 115 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 4: and transfer their expertise to other people in the community. 116 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: Okay, so the demo you showed me we took a 117 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: piece of salmon, we put it in the tray is 118 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 1: sort of specially made for your oven. It's divided into 119 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 1: three kind of zones, so you put, you know, whatever 120 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: you put in Zone one. Maybe it's a vegetable zone two, 121 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: the salmon zone three. Whatever you put in there, you 122 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 1: tell the oven what you put in there, so it 123 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: adjusts those lights accordingly to kind of sear and to cook. 124 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 2: And what is the result? 125 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 1: I mean the salmon and I had tasted fantastic and 126 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: it tasted like it was seared on the bottom but 127 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: nicely cooked on the top. 128 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 2: What's going on inside that oven? 129 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 4: It's kind of exactly what you just said, like it. No, 130 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 4: you were kind of painting by numbers. When you get 131 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 4: into a complicated cook which is in this case, three 132 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 4: different ingredients, one of them super sensitive, which is a 133 00:04:56,320 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 4: cherry tomato broccolini which wanted to be seared, a salmon 134 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 4: which you wanted to be very very gentle on the 135 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 4: inside and see the heck out of the skin on 136 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 4: the bottom to. 137 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 3: Make it actually not only edible, but delicious. 138 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, you need to put it in the right zone 139 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 4: and it will take care of itself. 140 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 3: There's just some very few simple steps that you saw. 141 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 4: There's a temperature sensor that goes into the proteins, You 142 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 4: put it in the right zone, you pick the right recipe, 143 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 4: and you're off and running. If you want to mess 144 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 4: with it, and like not, you know, put the put 145 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 4: food in the right zone or put the tray on 146 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 4: the wrong thing, it can go off. I mean there 147 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 4: is some agency each users. You have to do a 148 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 4: little bit of something. But once you do that, the 149 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 4: recipes kick in and then the AI on the machine 150 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 4: vision and the temperature centers drive to cook so that 151 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,559 Speaker 4: it gets into the perfect temperatures in the perfect extra 152 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 4: you know, seer levels and that kind of thing. 153 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: And the oven itself does not get hot on the outside. 154 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 1: It's a small kind of a table all right, I 155 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: guess not tabletop. 156 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 2: Countertop is what we call it. You countertop kind of 157 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 2: bigger than a standard toaster oven. 158 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 4: Slightly bigger than a radiotoaster of and I think it's 159 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 4: twelve by thirteen by fourteen in terms of a cubic space. 160 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:01,679 Speaker 1: Got kind of a rubber top which you can almost 161 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: you can set like a hot plate on absolutely so. 162 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 2: Once you take the tray out, you can put it 163 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 2: on there. 164 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 4: And as an illumining case, you know, we wanted to 165 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 4: make it designed to look kind of high tech and cool, 166 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 4: and that aluminum casing also is protecting for temperature, so 167 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 4: that the oven itself that you touched. 168 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: Doesn't get too hot, and the camera inside. Yeah, tell 169 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 1: me about the functionality because there's no window on the door. Correct, 170 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: probably for cooking reasons. I'm guessing the way you're cooking. 171 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: Tell me about the camera. 172 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 3: The camera has two main functions. 173 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 4: The first is is that as you as you point out, 174 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 4: you can actually see what's going on inside the oven, 175 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 4: and we send it to your phone, so you can 176 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 4: see what's going on when you're in the living room, 177 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 4: not in the kitchen, to see where it where's my 178 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 4: cook and we'll show you the time, the temperature, where 179 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 4: everything is, as well as the view of the oven. 180 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 1: So wait, that's perfect because I do this thing when 181 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:43,679 Speaker 1: I broil salmon where I'm checking it every one minute, 182 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: I'm pulling out the salmon to see. 183 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 4: And the heat's coming on and then you might have 184 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 4: to take it out and see it later in the 185 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 4: top I mean all that stuff, right, So you basically 186 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 4: can can watch all that. 187 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 3: So that's the I'm gonna call it. 188 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 4: The UXX part of the experience. The more complicated thing 189 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 4: is using it for a machine vision. So we'll use 190 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 4: the example of toast where you say, okay, I like 191 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 4: my toast a certain shade of brown. Well that's out 192 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 4: of a continual of you know, an infinite number of 193 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 4: shades of brown, right, you get very very specific there. 194 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 4: So we're using the camera to do things like look 195 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 4: at the specific piece of toast and monitor its color. 196 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 4: But it even gets more complicated because obviously different different 197 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 4: pieces of bread can start. 198 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 3: At different color levels, so you have. 199 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 4: To be able to watch the differentiation in the texture 200 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 4: of the toast. And this is a lot of algorithms 201 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 4: and machine vision going on. It's basically a neural network 202 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 4: where we've pumped in tens of thousands of different photographs 203 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 4: of what's going on with toast, so that it is 204 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 4: learning from that consistently and watching what's happening in the 205 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 4: pock marks of the toast so they can deliver you 206 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 4: the perfect toast. That's where the thing gets pretty complicated. 207 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 4: It starts to feel more like self driving car than 208 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 4: it does just a countertop of it. 209 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:43,679 Speaker 1: It sounds great and we tried it. It's the food 210 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: tasted fantastic. I'm really impressed. But the reality is it's 211 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: an expensive device. 212 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 3: Yep. 213 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: It's one thousand dollars yep. And to some people that 214 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: may be fine. I mean, we're spending one thousand dollars 215 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: on a cell phone now, yep. And then of in 216 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: is something this can actually save you money, I believe 217 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: over the term of a couple of years, or even 218 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: maybe in the first year by not eating out as much. Yeah, 219 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: if yeah, if we have it. 220 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 4: Is nine ninety five, we have a finance plan that 221 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 4: can be as low as thirty two dollars a month. 222 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 4: And if you just use that number or it'll exaggerated 223 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 4: up to fifty. 224 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 3: Dollars a month. For a second, if you're eating out, you. 225 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 4: Know, I don't know, eight, ten, twelve, fifteen times a 226 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 4: month because it's sort of your go to. 227 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 3: If you just knocked one of those nights off. 228 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 4: You basically would be paying for the oven in real 229 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 4: time because you'd be saving fifty dollars a month, right, 230 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 4: and it's also healthier and so and then again, what's 231 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 4: your time worth? Like, you know, if you're saving how 232 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 4: long did it take you to go out to get 233 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 4: to get a meal when you could have been ten 234 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 4: minutes been eating something you have better quality with, less 235 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 4: healthier and healthier. Right, So when you start to think 236 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 4: about all those things, what's my time worth? What's my 237 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 4: health worth? What's actually me doing things that I enjoy 238 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 4: doing more? 239 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 3: And I'm not eating out, I'm not spending that money. 240 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 4: When you think about it in that context, I would 241 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 4: argue it is not cheap, and it is nine hundred 242 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 4: ninety five dollars, But boyd is it if it really 243 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 4: if you really bring in your life, it can change 244 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 4: it and I feel like it can pay itself back 245 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 4: in matters of months, not years. 246 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: Okay, do you think you're going to change the kitchen 247 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: with this? I mean the microwave was kind of like 248 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 1: the last revolution in the kitchen. We've had assorted gadgets 249 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: come and go. Is this the next big wave in cooking? 250 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 3: I think yes. 251 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 4: So this way of cooking within thread light is more precise, 252 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 4: more energy efficient, makes better tasting and healthier food. So 253 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 4: when I say that and stand by that comment, I 254 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 4: think that I'm making this up now. Twenty five percent 255 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 4: of all ovens worldwide and fifteen or years will have 256 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 4: this technology in it. I mean, it is a better 257 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 4: it is a it is a step function change in 258 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 4: the way people can cook. I hope Proves continues to 259 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 4: be a company that can capitalize on it. We certainly 260 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 4: intend on being a company that can go out and 261 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 4: continue to build more skews, and we have different applications 262 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 4: we're thinking about. But even if we were for some 263 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 4: reason not to be successful, I think that the core 264 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 4: technology is going to be proven to be Wow. I 265 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 4: like eating with that that mechanism. As for Brava, I 266 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 4: think that we're in our V one product that we're 267 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 4: coming out of. I think we will integrate into people's lives. 268 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:03,439 Speaker 4: I mean, we really have a philosophy. We want to 269 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 4: meet people where they are, which is why it's so 270 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 4: important that we can do toast or a twelve inch pizza. 271 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:09,839 Speaker 1: And you said pizza. I mentioned the pizza at the 272 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 1: beginning with Back to the Future. Yeah, so you can 273 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: just stick I mean, clearly, we're gonna hope people make 274 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: nice you know, flaming Yon's and salmon and you know, 275 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: lamb in this thing. 276 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 2: But the reality is a lot of people are going 277 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:22,199 Speaker 2: to stick a pizza in there. 278 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 3: It's great, It's perfect because you want pizza really hot. 279 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 4: You want that bottom stone that it sits on in 280 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 4: this case, on our on our trays. You want that 281 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 4: thing to get up to you know, you want that 282 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 4: oven at eight hundred degrees or whatever. Right, so you 283 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 4: need intense power and that's, you know, thankfully what we 284 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 4: have in this thing. 285 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: John Pleasant, CEO of Brava, the oven that is trying 286 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: to change the way we cook in the kitchen. 287 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 2: Thanks for joining me, Rich, Thank you so much. 288 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 3: I really appreciate it. 289 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 2: Thanks for a good meal too, all right. 290 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: Man, And if you want to learn more about the 291 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: Brava Oven, you can look in the show notes or 292 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: go to my website rich on tech dot tv to 293 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: see some pictures and. 294 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 2: Video, and you can also see the meal that I 295 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 2: ate from it. Thanks so much for listening. 296 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: I'm Rich Termiro. 297 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 3: I'll talk to you real soon.