1 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: Mm hmmmm. 2 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 2: Welcome to part two of our interview with wit Hertford 3 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 2: a k a. Duck Face, a k a. Stephanie's secret boyfriend. So, 4 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 2: without further ado, here's witt People, always as. 5 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 3: You do, you want to hear this anecdote? 6 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: I know, I'm kind of like, that's the point. 7 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 4: Please please lead, because some days my brain can't follow myself. 8 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 3: Do you remember this on the Friday take that first 9 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 3: episode we had. I've said this on other podcasts, so 10 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 3: this is like my full house. Uh so why would 11 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 3: I not bring it to the you know, big we 12 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 3: we had like banked some hours. 13 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you do that right, right, and like like 14 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 4: banked school hours. I'll explain that to our audience a 15 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 4: little bit like banking. Banking school hours is like you 16 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 4: have to have a certain amount of school hours every day, 17 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,839 Speaker 4: but there are some things that you can do where 18 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 4: if you know the following day you're going to have 19 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 4: a really crazy schedule or it's a tape day or whatever, 20 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 4: and you have chance, a chance maybe earlier in the 21 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 4: week or the day before, you can get in an 22 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 4: extra couple of school hours so that it will you'll 23 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 4: get all of the work done that you need, it's 24 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 4: just not on that particular day. So that's when we 25 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 4: say banking hours, it's you're kind of putting away hours 26 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 4: in the school bank of the exact hours that you 27 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 4: need to get every week. So anyway, a continue perfect. 28 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 3: So then what was the teacher's name? What was her name? 29 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: Adria? 30 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 3: That was it. Yeah, she was like, we're going to 31 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 3: do homec today and we baked banana bread. 32 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, we used to. I remember we used to 33 00:01:59,720 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: do this. 34 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,919 Speaker 3: I'm going to say this to you for the books. 35 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 3: I don't think I said this to you when we 36 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 3: met before. Maybe I did. That was the most romantic 37 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 3: moment of my life. Maybe still is. Maybe still is making. 38 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: Banana breadet Oh my god, I love it. And k 39 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: keen It's true. 40 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 4: We were basically we were we were having our own 41 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 4: Hallmark rom com. 42 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: It was. 43 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,399 Speaker 3: It was a documentary. It should have been a documentary. 44 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 3: And then when I got in my mom's minivan after 45 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 3: the tape to go home and drive back to Agora, 46 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 3: cried like a babe, heartbroken because I was like, I'll 47 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 3: never see it again. 48 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 2: Okay, you two should have gotten married. Add that to 49 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 2: your married and divorced. Add that to your tally. 50 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 4: Right, yeah, right, oh documentary, let's go. 51 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: Oh my god, there is so set. 52 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 4: And then to know that you came back for two 53 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 4: more episodes. 54 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 3: Oh, and I had to play it so cool, Like 55 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 3: in my brain. 56 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 4: I was gonna say, what was what was that like 57 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 4: like when you when you found out you were coming 58 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 4: back for a couple more episodes, And it really was 59 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 4: because people fell in love with the character, like you 60 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 4: did such a great job that the writers and the 61 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 4: audience was like, we need more of this character and 62 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 4: of Stephanie and him uh and I just loved their 63 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 4: dynamic that Steph finally was like yet, no, you guys 64 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 4: are not You're not doing this Like I I was 65 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,239 Speaker 4: so proud of Steph in that moment. So what was 66 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 4: it like for you when you sure were like, oh 67 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 4: my god, I get to come back and do this 68 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 4: a couple more times? 69 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 3: Thrilled, like you get addicted and it's that whole Hollywood 70 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 3: thing where it is a it's a bit of a 71 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 3: full goal because you're you do like episodes two three, 72 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 3: I think I'm an end up to between three and five. 73 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was more than was it three? It's three? 74 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 3: It might have been, And that you think it's then forever. 75 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 3: That's what you know, Hollywood, You're like, oh, this is forever. 76 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 3: That's why whenever people go I'm going to get on 77 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 3: a series, it's going to be great, it's like for 78 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 3: that time. My middle sister was on a network TV show, 79 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 3: not a great one, for like five seasons and it 80 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 3: was her life. And when that stopped because it was 81 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 3: so all encompassing. I think she did like American Beauty 82 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 3: or something like a bit in that movie. But then 83 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 3: she she retired and she's never done it again, which 84 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 3: is a bummer because she's actually and I've said this already, 85 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 3: she's so so, so so funny, but she was. Yeah, 86 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 3: she was worn out because it was like life was 87 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 3: a little to stop start. 88 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 1: Right, So I do. 89 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 4: I remember my parents sort of always reminding me, not 90 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 4: in a way of like you're gonna lose this and 91 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 4: you should freak out, but like the reminder of this 92 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 4: is so amazing right now, but remember like, this isn't forever. 93 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 4: There will come a time when this will you know, 94 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 4: and you can't really prepare for it. But it was 95 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 4: a conversation that they always had, which was there will 96 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 4: be life out sight of this. 97 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: There will be life. 98 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 3: Good for that after this? 99 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: Damn like that too? 100 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 2: Yeah they did. They were very good about saying, Okay, 101 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 2: this is your Hollywood life and then this is your 102 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 2: normal life. But that's hard to grasp as a kid 103 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 2: because you don't think too long term as a kid. 104 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 2: Just think about what am I going to do today 105 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 2: and tomorrow. So I didn't really get it until Fuller House, 106 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 2: until thirty years later, and I was like, oh, this 107 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 2: was this is so special and so fleeting. It's like 108 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 2: lightning in a bottle and we're going to capture it twice. 109 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 1: And that's so can we talk? 110 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 3: Can we talk about that show? 111 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 2: Let's talk about that show, Fuller Why didn't we invite 112 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 2: Why didn't we talk about? Why didn't we get you 113 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 2: on Fuller House? That seems I can't what very rude. 114 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 2: Why didn't we do that? 115 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: Why didn't that happen? 116 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 3: I don't know. But if I came in with tattoos 117 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 3: and earrings as duck Face, how dope would that? 118 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: That would have been so amazing? 119 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 3: It was like duck Face Duckfest found is like. 120 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 4: Duck Face found his grewed you know, yeah, right? Or 121 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 4: we find out we find. 122 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 3: Out I think I was in London. I think when 123 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 3: you guys started, I was in London. 124 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 4: Maybe that way, maybe that was it, because I do 125 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 4: know we like we went out to everybody that we 126 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 4: went out to, like everybody that had been in the 127 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 4: I don't know that we would not have gone to 128 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 4: duck I'm calling John as I'm gonna call Jeff right 129 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 4: now and complain. We're gonna have to go back and 130 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 4: reshoot a couple of episodes of the season. 131 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 3: Let's get back to. 132 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 4: What I was gonna say, is is I think what 133 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 4: happened is is that duck Face, much like Steph, they 134 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 4: both became They both traveled the world and became DJs. 135 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 4: It was DJ Tanner, which was me and DJ Duckface, 136 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 4: and they sort of operated in the same circles like 137 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 4: Innibitha and all these places, you know, where they were 138 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 4: like in their little party life or whatever. But it was, 139 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 4: you know, it was the kind of nothing ever really happened. 140 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 4: But now they're both back in San Francisco and and 141 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 4: I think that's where we see things take off. 142 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 3: This is great, you yeah, it's great. 143 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 4: We're shooting in my garage next week. Here we go, guys. Yeah, 144 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 4: I'll start painting backdrops. 145 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: Now, do you. 146 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 3: Remember that when we when that last time I thought 147 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 3: about doing a sketch with you that my friend had 148 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 3: written yes for. It was like when Funnier died first. 149 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was what did we wind up doing it? 150 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:16,679 Speaker 1: Or we know? We didn't? What happened? 151 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 3: No? We no, we did, No, we never ended up. 152 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 3: The producer shut it down for some reason. But I remember, Yeah, 153 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 3: my friend Matt, who's on Breaking Bad, he was very 154 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 3: excited about the idea. And I do I think like 155 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 3: there was a I. 156 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: Think there's definitely something there. So you let me know. 157 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 3: You let me know, come see my check off. Let's go, 158 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 3: let's go figure it out. 159 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 4: I am coming to see your chek Off. I'm so excited. 160 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 4: Vanna is such a great and I I also love 161 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 4: Chekoff always such intensity. 162 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 3: And let's let's be nerds about it. How did you 163 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 3: find out about checkof? I'll talk about this. 164 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 4: I mean I took I mean, I did acting class, 165 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 4: I did I went to a musical I was a 166 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 4: performing arts student. I did musical theater. I did you 167 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 4: know of all sorts of musical theater history? And I 168 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 4: you know, and I'm also a nerd so I like 169 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 4: to read, and I like to do a lot of stuff. 170 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 3: I won't I won't be labored. But yeah, there was 171 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 3: a part of my grad degree in London where we 172 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 3: went to Moscow for sixteen and I was one of 173 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 3: the older directing students and so nobody liked me. So 174 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 3: I traveled around Moscow not reading a lick of cyrillic 175 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 3: and just was up to my neck in snow and 176 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 3: I loved it. And I went to his house in 177 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 3: the country and played his piano and it blew my 178 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,839 Speaker 3: mind apart. So I have directed four of the major 179 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 3: works that I've adapted, and adapted all of them. 180 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 4: Wow, okay, yeah, you you, you take the you win, obviously, 181 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 4: I know, just a little bit here and there. 182 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,239 Speaker 1: I just I think it's so amazing that you really. 183 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 4: Tried so many new things like and and and didn't 184 00:08:55,559 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 4: let anything stop you. I mean, sounds like you had 185 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 4: a pretty incredible journey, my friend traveling the world theater 186 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 4: London and took. 187 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 2: You to England. What what where did that come from? 188 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: Theater? 189 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 3: You're going to do well? I So at the end 190 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 3: of my second tour of duty here, I was really 191 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 3: disenchanted with being submitted for like horse jockeys and stuff 192 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 3: for coke commercials. Literally that happened one time and I 193 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 3: went into a big waiting room that was all little 194 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 3: people in me and they looked at me like I 195 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 3: was the Like they were like, get out of here. 196 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,559 Speaker 3: This isn't for you. And I kind of was like, yeah, 197 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 3: you're right, it's not for me. And I called my 198 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 3: agent and I was like, can you guys get creative? 199 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 3: Not submit me for just physical descriptions because I'm an actor? 200 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 3: Can you get creative anyway? So I then got disenchanted 201 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 3: and was My family all migrated up to Utah, and 202 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 3: so I was at my parents' house over the holidays 203 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 3: a decade ago and they were like, all right, what's next? 204 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 3: I don't know. My mom goes, you should apply for 205 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 3: graduate school, and I was like, yo, I'm in my 206 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 3: late thirties. Me being in a room full of actors, 207 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 3: I'd be a nightmare. I would not be a fun 208 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 3: person to be around. And she went, no, stupid, you 209 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 3: should apply for directing. You've always been a director. And 210 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 3: I thought of my dad, who pass around I was ten. 211 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 3: Was this guy I look a lot like him? And 212 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 3: his death sort of completely changed our entire life family trajectory, 213 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 3: and I went, maybe that's right, and I remember my 214 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 3: mom was like, you can be your own mayor and 215 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 3: go do it. So I applied for grad school, but 216 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 3: only a handful, and like four or five of them 217 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 3: were in the States, and then there's one in England, 218 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 3: and I was like, very not wit. I kept my 219 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 3: mouth shut and I was like, I'm not gonna tell 220 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 3: anyone that that's my sweetheart pick at all, and it's 221 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 3: just going to be a thing that I'm gonna I'm 222 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 3: gonna kind of cross my fingers. And then I got 223 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 3: in and the way I got this is a fun story. 224 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 3: I'm in the interview with the rep from the school 225 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 3: and we're sitting forward and he's very English and I'm 226 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 3: wearing like a suit and mint socks. I look really proper. 227 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 3: And he goes, all right, witch, so why you and 228 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 3: why this school? And I went, look, man, I don't 229 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,439 Speaker 3: know how a fancy reason for you. My full name 230 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 3: is would be flint Hertford and if I don't live 231 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 3: in the UK. At some point in my life I've 232 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 3: slapped Fate in the face and he stood up and 233 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 3: he hugged me, and that's how I got into drag school. 234 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: That's amazing, that's amazing, what an approach. Well, but what 235 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 1: that shows is is. 236 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 4: Thinking on your feet, improv humor, self efficacy, humor, you know, 237 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 4: like so I mean in that one response or like 238 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 4: so many things, honesty, you're like, look, I don't have 239 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 4: a fancy, like all of the things that probably a 240 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 4: college recruit would be like this person would make for 241 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 4: a really great student. 242 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 3: And again thematically coming back to like give zero, I 243 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 3: think that that's where that really started, because you know, then, 244 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 3: I remember our first assignment was just to direct some 245 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 3: Shakespeare scenes with the with the BA students. Everybody did 246 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 3: pretty kind of straightforward, and I was given Henry the 247 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 3: Fourth and I read it and I had not read 248 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 3: this particular scene between this like he seemed like a 249 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 3: cop and his you know, barefoot and pregnant wife. I 250 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 3: was like, this is Tennessee Williams. This isn't Shakespeare. And 251 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 3: so I had my actors do verse Shakespeare with Southern 252 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 3: dialects as though it was a Tennessee Williams play. So 253 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 3: I started off being weird as hell, and it kind 254 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 3: of is like where that's where I operate. That's how 255 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 3: it goes. 256 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 4: What a fascinating choice. I mean making interesting choices, that's all. 257 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 4: I remember acting teachers and directors always saying make an 258 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 4: interesting choice. The fits, but make but do but do 259 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 4: an interesting choice. Do something that's a little bit left 260 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 4: of normal. 261 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 3: Right right. And I remember on Day's podcast he was 262 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:16,719 Speaker 3: asking me about the guy on set that was sort 263 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 3: of like the acting cork. 264 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 5: Yeah. 265 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 3: So awesome, right, so awesome. I remember that, like he 266 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 3: figured out the lifts thing and I kind of just 267 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 3: mimicked it and then I just ran with it and 268 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 3: the whole like take my glasses off. He kind of 269 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 3: enabled me to I remember that literally that he enabled 270 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 3: me to like make ould choices. 271 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it. 272 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, he really, that was He was one of the 273 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 4: first people that was like do something, you know, like 274 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 4: be go for it, try this, try something funny. 275 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: And he was so great with us. 276 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 3: And I was going to wear these to like to 277 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 3: like make it feel kind of but those look. 278 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: Great on you? They really do? You know, like you 279 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 1: look great? Those are not? I know that you look fabulous. 280 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: I would I would. Yeah, you look also on glasses 281 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: in honor. 282 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 4: Of I don't wear I'm sorry, I don't wear glasses 283 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 4: yet I'm on the I'm trailing behind, but I'm sure 284 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 4: at some point and it'll happen thirty minutes. 285 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 3: I'm not bad eyesight. My whole life. When I was 286 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 3: a little kid, I had to do this thing, I 287 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 3: had like a patch. Oh and then over it like 288 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 3: I look like a really. 289 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 4: Like, well that was where the uh, that was where 290 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 4: the pirate started. Really, that was where you're the pirate 291 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 4: actor guru stage started. 292 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 3: That's right, you've just. 293 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: Been perfecting it for all the time. 294 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 3: True. 295 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 4: Now, of course we would be remiss if we did 296 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 4: not mention other things that you have been in Jurassic Park, 297 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 4: Nightmare on Elm Street, family man. 298 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: I mean you've done You've been. 299 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 4: A voice, actor, a writer, producer, director, musician, so many things. 300 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 4: You are a renaissance man. But no, but you're you're 301 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 4: an awesome creative human being. But what has been your 302 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 4: favorite thing that you've done in any realm create which 303 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 4: might is probably hard to pick, but like top top 304 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 4: experience for you creatively that you've really been, like, this 305 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 4: is what feeds my soul? 306 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 3: Good question? I mean recently, when I get recognized in 307 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 3: Trader Joe's for my karaoke week and my karaoke efforts 308 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 3: and work. That's very exciting. But you know, I think 309 00:15:56,400 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 3: that this this Greek play because I hadn't lacked in 310 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 3: a long time. And what I wrote that this Oedipus 311 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 3: into tick anything we did a couple of years ago. 312 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 3: The actress had never done any theater, but she again, 313 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 3: I got her through my workshop and she well, she 314 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 3: done some short films and modeling or whatever, but she 315 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 3: was just like that alien where I was like, I 316 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 3: think I can give you text and you're gonna embody 317 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 3: it and it's going to be so easy. And she 318 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 3: was curious about it, and I told her, look, Antimmy 319 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 3: speaks for seventy five minutes. Wow. By herself, she was fine. 320 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 3: She was a great team partner. And what happened with 321 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 3: me through that process, why, I think it was kind 322 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 3: of you know, when you worked with Spielberg, that's that's 323 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 3: cool as hell. That's to two days to change your life. 324 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 3: And he was very normal. But you know, it's it's 325 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 3: not about really processed there. You just try not to 326 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 3: screw up. And with Oedipus, first of all, I couldn't 327 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 3: find a sixty five year old man to do what 328 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 3: I wanted that character do, which is you know, he's blind, 329 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 3: he's grieving. It's really rough, there's nudity. I couldn't find 330 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 3: a sixty five year old male actor, shockingly that wanted 331 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 3: to do all that stuff. And so the antigony is 332 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 3: she went, look, bitch, you're old, why don't you play it? 333 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 3: And I was like, okay, I guess I am now 334 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:32,239 Speaker 3: dad adjacent, right, So I went and did that, and 335 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 3: I really did him blindfold. So I did the whole 336 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 3: rehearsal process and all the performances in darkness. And again 337 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 3: I had never done nudity, and maybe it was really 338 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 3: good that I was blindfolded so I couldn't see the audience. 339 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:52,360 Speaker 3: Be like, but it was such a thing where it 340 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 3: took me. It took me to a place where I 341 00:17:55,800 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 3: really had to just let go. And I was in 342 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 3: flow the entire time. You know that thing when when 343 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 3: actors say, if you don't remember how it went, it 344 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 3: probably weren't. Every night. I was totally in a fever 345 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 3: dream and I would end and I would you know, 346 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 3: my director, I would ask the co director, I'd ask themone, 347 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 3: was that garbage? And he was like, no, it was, 348 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 3: and it was one of these cool things where I 349 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 3: had friends that I had grown up with, friends from 350 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:31,120 Speaker 3: my LA chapters who've never seen me do theater, these 351 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 3: big chunks of my life where I've been invested in 352 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:37,239 Speaker 3: London and in undergrad but they'd never seen me. They 353 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 3: just see on Instagram me, you know, pontificating about it, 354 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 3: and they got to come see me do that. And 355 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 3: I remember at the end of the play, I rip 356 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 3: off the bandages to metaphorically say that I regained sight 357 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 3: and I could for the first time look at the 358 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 3: audience and it was these people that I. 359 00:18:56,520 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 5: Love and I felt so for lack of a better term, 360 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 5: no pun intended steam, I felt so seen and that 361 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 5: my art, as. 362 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 3: You know, a balding, gray less fit forty five year old, 363 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 3: that it was landing and it was resonating, and I 364 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 3: had grown men sobbing, and I thought, that's it, man, 365 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 3: that's it. When the thread is short, when you can 366 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 3: connect and it can land and it doesn't feel like 367 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 3: it's museum glass and you're behind velvet rope, that's it. 368 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 3: So that experience was the one that sort of shifted 369 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 3: everything and then made me go cool, what other old men, Oh, BONNYA, 370 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 3: let's go do that. So I'm kind of in this 371 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 3: this is my mode right now. 372 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 1: I love it. 373 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 4: I mean, that's the ultimate reason that we do this, right, 374 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 4: is to get that free flying feeling when you're like, 375 00:19:57,840 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 4: oh my god, that was it? 376 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: Like you just kind of land and you're like, did 377 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,360 Speaker 1: I just do we just fly? 378 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 3: Like? 379 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 1: What do we just do that? 380 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 3: And you get cred with than anything, right, Like like 381 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 3: when I did impront at uc B, I wouldn't say 382 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 3: I was the greatest sumpervisor because I actually that was 383 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 3: a period of my life when I was judging myself 384 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 3: and that real me up within bra and I was 385 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 3: doing a lot of imposter syndrome where I was going, oh, 386 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 3: they're all much funnier than me, And yeah it was. 387 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 3: It was a rough education. But even in that the 388 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 3: times that I would sort of lose myself, you could, 389 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 3: you know, and even more painting seven hours then if 390 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 3: I if I finish and it doesn't look like a disaster, 391 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:48,439 Speaker 3: that's that's that's a cool sort of start and finish. 392 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 3: I wouldn't say that the product is what I care about. 393 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 3: I really do care about process. But you can you 394 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 3: can figure this out when I make a batch of 395 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 3: guacamole that I'm proud of. People love that, you know 396 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 3: what I mean, that's true. 397 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 1: It's like but the weirdest Yes, oh my god. 398 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 4: No, no, not in the least, No, not at all. 399 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 4: You're this is the conversations we like to have. These 400 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 4: are the things like this is it right? We're we're 401 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 4: all still in this business like because there's something about 402 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 4: it that we absolutely love or that torments us, or 403 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 4: that pushes us to want to be different or better 404 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 4: or more creative. And I mean I love hearing you 405 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,120 Speaker 4: break it down like that, you know, and people will 406 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 4: love to hear that. 407 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: Like someone who. 408 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 4: Grew up in this business as a kid has made 409 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 4: such broad and interesting and like forward thinking choices. 410 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 1: That's just really cool. I have a lot of admiration 411 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: for you, my friend. 412 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 3: Thanks jud you know, I mean, my my circle of 413 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 3: dudes that I auditioned with from like eight to fifteen 414 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 3: are all very very famous names, like the same room 415 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:02,959 Speaker 3: as you know, you're in the same room. So it 416 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:08,679 Speaker 3: was me, uh, Toby Maguire, Elijah Wood, Seth Grain, Giovanni 417 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 3: Rubc and then me and I'm the one that kind 418 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,199 Speaker 3: of failed and went and lived life and had a 419 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 3: bunch of failed marriages, and you climb up hills, you 420 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,199 Speaker 3: fall down others, and I'm just really and again this 421 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 3: is gonna sound really corny, and I don't care, but 422 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 3: I just feel really lucky to be on my own 423 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 3: feet and to be curious. The curiosity is what keeps 424 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 3: me afloat and so uh. Without that, I think you 425 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 3: start to calcify, you start to really corrode, and I 426 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 3: hope to hang on to that forever. You know, Like, 427 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 3: I've been single here for a minute, and it's cool 428 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 3: because I figured out it's really important lesson to be 429 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 3: alone and not be lonely. It's the It's the radest thing. 430 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,959 Speaker 4: Enjoy enjoy your own company, your own space, your own thoughts. 431 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 4: You're not trying to run away from yourself, because that's 432 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 4: I've done that, and that's it turns out you can't. 433 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 3: You can try, and and look I'm in my sea. Yeah, 434 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 3: this is all I've had to you know what I mean. Like, 435 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 3: it's not for lack of. 436 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 4: Tronic right, well, well exactly, I mean, look, we're I mean, 437 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 4: the pandemic really put a damp around things. 438 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: I'll say that, you know what I mean. 439 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 4: It's been so amazing catching up with you over all 440 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 4: this and like hearing what an incredibly successful human you've 441 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 4: become aside from career, aside from all of that stuff, 442 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 4: you like, you know, you're just game recognized game, my friend. 443 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 4: I see those of us who have done the work, 444 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 4: we know, we can sense the bullshit, and we can 445 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 4: sense and someone's being really genuine And I see that 446 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 4: in you, And I'm really really happy for you, because 447 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 4: this this business can two people up and spit them out, 448 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 4: and it takes a lot of self discovery and a 449 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 4: lot of digging and a lot of hard conversations with yourself. 450 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 4: But I think, yeah, but you know what. 451 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 3: This has got to happen on your own podcast too. 452 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 3: Jody is like, I'm proud of you. Look at your moms, 453 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 3: look at what you've done, yo. So like you taught 454 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 3: me the ropes. We've kind of had like walkie talkies 455 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 3: the whole time. 456 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 6: So like it's what a lovely thing this entire moment 457 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 6: as felt like And even like before I got on today, 458 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 6: I was thinking, why does this feel like normal to 459 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,400 Speaker 6: talk to people I haven't talked to? Like I literally 460 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 6: feel like I was talking to my friend incident and 461 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 6: that's wild. 462 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,239 Speaker 4: No, I know, but like that we I mean, that 463 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 4: is again one thing that I will say that I'm 464 00:24:56,000 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 4: incredibly proud of with this show that somehow it brought 465 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 4: into its orbit. 466 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 1: Some of the most. 467 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 4: Genuine, talented, interesting, incredible people who have not only been 468 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 4: that since we did the show in the eighties, but 469 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 4: who have continued on and been just incredible people. I mean, 470 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 4: we've had some stars guest stars on here, and we're 471 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 4: just like, oh my god, we had no like, we 472 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 4: had no idea as kids. Some of the incredible legendary 473 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 4: people that were writing on our show that we're working 474 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 4: on our show, that were guest starring on our show, 475 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 4: and it just I'm never it never fails to amaze me. 476 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 4: Just the really fabulous people that were brought into the 477 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,360 Speaker 4: orbit of this and that continued to be that way. 478 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:55,919 Speaker 4: And you are definitely one of them, my friends. So 479 00:25:56,560 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 4: I cannot wait to see Vanya. I am so excited. 480 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,479 Speaker 4: I'm just I'm so proud of you, man, like it really, Uh, 481 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 4: you've killed it. It's not easy to find your place 482 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 4: in this business and you've done it. 483 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 3: So do people usually cry on this podcast? 484 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 4: Not always, but but now, I just you know, I 485 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 4: like to give people their flowers when they when they 486 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 4: deserve them, because we you know, we all need to 487 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 4: hear it. 488 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 1: And I just i've well, you know, do you guys. 489 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 3: You guys did it obviously, I think, you know, with 490 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 3: Bob the last little bit, it was kind of a 491 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 3: reminder to think that, like, what a special place that was. 492 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,199 Speaker 3: I said this to Dave. I totally still stand by it. 493 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 3: That set, what you guys created. However, the puck that 494 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 3: happened was so warm and lovely and and most of 495 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 3: those sets were not like that. You guys were rare, 496 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 3: and so I think like that spirit and what everybody 497 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 3: is carried with them as fans is a real thing. 498 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:07,199 Speaker 3: It's not phony. And I'm literally so proud to be 499 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 3: Walter because that's rips. 500 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: Walter's awesome. 501 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 4: I love Walter. I love Stephan Walter. I can't wait 502 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 4: to watch the next episodes coming up. It's been so long, 503 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 4: I don't even remember what happens, but I can't wait 504 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 4: to see. 505 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 1: And I just I love Steph. 506 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 4: You know in this episode where she's just like, you 507 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 4: know what, actually, you guys are being Dick's knock it 508 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 4: off and then and then just reads everyone in the 509 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 4: room and it's like, oh yeah, well I wouldn't be 510 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 4: talking so quick about your you know, it just gives everyone. 511 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 4: I was like, yes, Steph, get them, get them. 512 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 3: The later episodes, I definitely remember that. Like I was, 513 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 3: you know, going through life, so I was growing and 514 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 3: evolved as a person, and I was in like turtlebacks 515 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,919 Speaker 3: and I was like not okay, and turtle macks and 516 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,640 Speaker 3: so like, the clothes started to feel a little bit 517 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,199 Speaker 3: like not that they're bad clothes, but I you know, 518 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 3: you're get encapsulated. You guys know this, and it's like 519 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 3: you're immortalized for a period that most people in their 520 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,640 Speaker 3: regular life, Like when people bring up the Dinosaur movie, 521 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 3: I'm like, that's cool. I felt so shabby and pre 522 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 3: pewbascent and whatever. So like it is that road where 523 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 3: you have to go that doesn't matter and stop, you know, 524 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 3: looking at it that way anymore. And now I'm so grateful. 525 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 4: Well, good, well, this has been a fabulous conversation with 526 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 4: Thank you so much for joining us today. 527 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: We have loved having you back on the show. 528 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:45,959 Speaker 4: And big salute to Duckface for starting the trend that 529 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 4: would become Instagram. 530 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: And the ducklips. It's true. 531 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 3: It's an amazing I still get it. I still get 532 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 3: sure in every single one. 533 00:28:57,880 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 4: I feel like we need to put a side by 534 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 4: side of him K and duckface and be like, this 535 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 4: is this is where it started. 536 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, she stole it. 537 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: That's it, that's it, that's exactly that. 538 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,959 Speaker 2: You should get a residual every time she makes that. 539 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I would like to. 540 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 4: I would like you to get the credit that is due, 541 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 4: which is that you started. 542 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 3: Should for sure, for sure, for sure. 543 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 4: All right, Well, thank you so much for joining us 544 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 4: today when we just loved having you on the show. 545 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: This was a great conversation. 546 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 2: This is so great, a love fest. 547 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: I loved this today was and uh yeah. 548 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 3: And this is what you give it a scorpio. You 549 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 3: get with a scorpio, you get like big big sleep 550 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 3: yeah big yeah. 551 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 4: Well that you look forward to seeing you in your 552 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 4: amazing work coming up, and we will talk to you later. 553 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: By bye bye. 554 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 4: That was such a great conversation, such a great interview. 555 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 2: Yea, And it's true, like I I mean, I haven't 556 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 2: seen him in thirty five years, but it just felt 557 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 2: so natural and just like, yeah, we're just old friends. 558 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 4: Catching Yeah, absolutely, just what a cool dude, right, We're 559 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 4: a rat dude. 560 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: It's super cool. 561 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 4: And I remember that about him too when we were young, 562 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 4: like he was just again, just a really interesting human. 563 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 4: And he was a couple of years older than I was, 564 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 4: so I think we were it was like seven and 565 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 4: maybe ten, which you know, when you're seven and ten 566 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 4: feels like a little bit like an age gap. But 567 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 4: he and I just really hit it off and like 568 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 4: always smart and funny and yeah, just what a what 569 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 4: a really awesome human and again love to see him succeeding. 570 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 1: So cool. 571 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 2: Yep, he's the real deal. 572 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: Yep. 573 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 4: But you guys, thanks for tuning in to another episode 574 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 4: of how Rude tanner Rito's. 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I don't what what. 591 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 4: Another episode of how Rude Tanner Rito's right, And remember, everybody, 592 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 4: I think. 593 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: That do you remember world? That the world is small 594 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 1: and the door is always open? 595 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 4: Okay, which I don't know if that implies that the 596 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 4: entire world can fit in the full Househouse, but I 597 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 4: think it can because a shape shift. 598 00:31:48,760 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 1: So that's what we're going with. Hey, Yes,