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Speaker 1: Welcome to the OT. This is OTT eight. My name

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Speaker 1: is Mike Keith. Amy Wells is sitting straight across from me. Hello, Hello, Hello, welcome,

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Speaker 1: Thank you. We have lots to discuss because there is

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Speaker 1: football news. Yes, there is football news. That is correct,

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Speaker 1: it wouldn't be there are football news. No, there is

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Speaker 1: football news. Okay, so there is football news. Schedule came out,

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Speaker 1: there's Thursday night schedule comes out, Amy Wells. First, three

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Speaker 1: thoughts from you on the twenty eighteen Tennessee Titans football schedule.

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Speaker 1: All right, thought Number one one. The thing that jumped

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Speaker 1: out at me the most was the amount of primetime games.

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Speaker 1: This team has two Monday night games against the Dallas

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Speaker 1: Cowboys and Houston Texas Thursday night game against the Jacksonville Jaguars,

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Speaker 1: of course, and then potentially who knows what will happen

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Speaker 1: December twenty second or twenty third, but we're looking at

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Speaker 1: three primetime games where that's the Washington weekend. Yes, so

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Speaker 1: three maybe four primetime games, which I find exciting. Well,

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Speaker 1: and you could be flex two exactly, but I mean,

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Speaker 1: we're already starting at a place that is different than

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Speaker 1: that's number one. Yeah, that's number one. Number two love

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Speaker 1: having a middle of the season bye week. That might

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Speaker 1: be the first thing that I look at every year

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Speaker 1: when the schedule comes out is where that bye is placed.

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Speaker 1: I love that it's in the middle of the season.

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Speaker 1: I love obviously that's right after we went overseas. I

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Speaker 1: think it's a great time for guys to rest, recharge

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Speaker 1: So I like that good. The third thing that I noticed,

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Speaker 1: obviously a lot of noon games. We have those primetime games,

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Speaker 1: and then in America the London game will be at

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Speaker 1: So those were my three things you three check out

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Speaker 1: of the most difficult months in franchise history. At Dallas

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Speaker 1: one last year but don't historically play that well. And

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Speaker 1: then add Houston on Monday Night ball. So three road games,

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Speaker 1: So the whole thing about well every game's not at noon, well, okay, fine,

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Speaker 1: told you, I'm concerned about my sleep schedule this year.

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Speaker 1: So the schedules out and scheduled day is one of

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Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, in that period of time. Oh, there are

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Speaker 1: This gets us through the end of twenty eighteen now.

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Speaker 1: Do you agree with that? I do, And in some years,

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Speaker 1: Titans historically don't play fabulously at Miami either. Even when

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Speaker 1: Buffalo in October is better than Buffalo. Yeah any other time.

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Speaker 1: We do get the Giants on December sixteenth, which means

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Speaker 1: at Christmas time. That's nice. I'm okay. See the tree

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Speaker 1: get through some bigger things. How about the draft? How

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Speaker 1: But Amy, nobody has any clue what happens at number

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Speaker 1: course we could. Could we get a great player at fifteen? Sure?

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Speaker 1: they are in the National Football League. Watching lives change

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Speaker 1: in that green room has always been one of the

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Speaker 1: most favorite things that I do. But it's it's hours

432
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Speaker 1: and hours of preparation, which I love. It really is

433
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Speaker 1: a labor of love getting to know all of these guys,

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Speaker 1: and then when you watch them get picked, it means

435
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Speaker 1: that much more. It gets a little emotional. It does

436
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Speaker 1: get emotional. I cry it everything anyway, But as I

437
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Speaker 1: watch just their lives and their families live change. I

438
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Speaker 1: cry right along with them, and it's just part of

439
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 1: doing all the background work is what for me really

440
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 1: makes that connection and makes it so much more meaningful

441
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Speaker 1: because when you see that emotion, you understand where it's

442
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Speaker 1: coming from. And what's cool too, is a lot of

443
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Speaker 1: the moments that are forged there. Those are those transformational

444
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Speaker 1: moments in somebody's life. And a lot of guys, even

445
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 1: going back to Aaron Rodgers who waited and waited and waited,

446
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Speaker 1: like we've always had a connection because of that, Like

447
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Speaker 1: you're there in that moment, and these guys remember you

448
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Speaker 1: from that moment where I came into the league, and

449
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Speaker 1: then you know, it's the building block for the foundation

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Speaker 1: and knowing these guys through the rest of their career.

451
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Speaker 1: Everybody says that knows you, that has worked with you,

452
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Speaker 1: that your biggest skill is your connection to people and

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Speaker 1: the fact that people will talk to you. Where does

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Speaker 1: that rank on your list of things that have made

455
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Speaker 1: you successful? I think that that's really the heart of everything.

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Speaker 1: And you know, like even being at an event like this,

457
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Speaker 1: they see you're kind of here, You're the road war,

458
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Speaker 1: You're out here with us, and That's what I've loved

459
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,640
Speaker 1: so much about being on the sideline for so long.

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Speaker 1: A Monday Night football are now hosting a pregame show

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Speaker 1: on Monday Night because I'm not just in the studio.

462
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Speaker 1: I'm there, so I'm there at the meetings. I'm there

463
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Speaker 1: face to face with the coaches and with the players.

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Speaker 1: And that's how you you, you know, you build up

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Speaker 1: the credibility and respect factor for all of these years,

466
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Speaker 1: and it's and it's really getting to know them, you know,

467
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Speaker 1: through all those these years. Like anything else, everything is

468
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Speaker 1: a relationship business and being on the road, the joy

469
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Speaker 1: of it is seeing all these people that you know

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Speaker 1: for all of these years, and it all comes down to,

471
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Speaker 1: you know, preparation and respect, respecting them and getting your

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Speaker 1: facts right and the trust develops and you know, like

473
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Speaker 1: that's what it's all about. But people notice when you're there,

474
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Speaker 1: you're on the grind along with them. There's a respect

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Speaker 1: that goes with that, right you know what, Like I

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Speaker 1: would never I don't understand this. At the Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: as a host, I don't necessarily have to be at

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Speaker 1: you know, all of the different media functions where players

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Speaker 1: and coaches are available. But why wouldn't you. Yeah, you know,

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00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 1: so that's kind of you know, that's building a reputation

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Speaker 1: that I'm there, because to me, unless you're talking to

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Speaker 1: someone in person and taking your direct quotes from them

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00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 1: or speaking to them on the phone, unless you're actually

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Speaker 1: there doing it, how else do you get the real information?

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Speaker 1: Like three, that's at the heart of everything. You know,

486
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Speaker 1: you actually did my radio show in nineteen ninety three,

487
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Speaker 1: you were promoting the Deuce the Open, the opening of

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Speaker 1: ESPN two. And to think that you're here twenty five

489
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Speaker 1: years later doing more, still at the pinnacle for somebody

490
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Speaker 1: to last. I mean that sort of work ethic and

491
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Speaker 1: that connection coming from there to here, that really is

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Speaker 1: the difference. But I think that isn't that kind of

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Speaker 1: what it's all about. I guess you have to is

494
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Speaker 1: it still though? For some people? Yeah, But to me

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Speaker 1: that's I would hope that's why you're interviewing me, because

496
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Speaker 1: there's there's a difference. And I've lasted so long because

497
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Speaker 1: something sets you apart, and this is a tough business

498
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Speaker 1: and a tough business for women in general. So to

499
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Speaker 1: have established maybe it's something I'm most proud of, is

500
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 1: longevity in this crazy competitive and sometimes cruel business to

501
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Speaker 1: still be, you know, like climbing the ladder and being

502
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Speaker 1: a part of it. So, you know something I'm very

503
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Speaker 1: proud of. You love the game anyway, You really like

504
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 1: the nerdy kind of football parts of it. It It gives

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Speaker 1: you an excuse to geek out about something that you

506
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 1: like anyway. Right, Oh, you're exactly right, and you know

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Speaker 1: it was. It was a thrill to see John Gruden here,

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Speaker 1: you know, and we're going to miss him so much.

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Speaker 1: And that's kind of like a bond that he and

510
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Speaker 1: I always have, is like you just know the people

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Speaker 1: who just genuinely love it. You know, what would you

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Speaker 1: be doing any way you'd be watching football or so

513
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Speaker 1: then to have the opportunity, which I have never taken

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Speaker 1: for granted, that in our production meetings before games, you

515
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 1: get this golden time just hanging out in a room

516
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Speaker 1: with all the top players on the team, the coaches,

517
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Speaker 1: and you get that one on one time and you

518
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Speaker 1: know them, as I would say, as friends some of them.

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Speaker 1: I've never taken that for granted, And I don't think

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Speaker 1: there's ever been a time where I'm at a game

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Speaker 1: where I don't just truly enjoy it. And you know

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Speaker 1: all the years on the sideline too, to have that

523
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Speaker 1: view from the line of scrimmage. Yeah, it doesn't get old.

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Speaker 1: It's something special all the time. It's always you know,

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Speaker 1: every you never know, it's always different and always exciting.

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Speaker 1: And you know, going back to the beginning, professional athlete's say,

527
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Speaker 1: it's hard to replace you know, that adrenaline, that feeling.

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Speaker 1: And if you grew up as an athlete, and I

529
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Speaker 1: was always an athlete, love the competition, it's hard to

530
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Speaker 1: replace that adrenaline flow. But live television is a big

531
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Speaker 1: time adrenaline flow. And then mixing that with a sport

532
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Speaker 1: that you love, that's the greatest. You know, that's the

533
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Speaker 1: greatest combination. And there is no way it's ever going

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Speaker 1: to be boring. And how many people can say that

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Speaker 1: about their job after all of these years, It never

536
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Speaker 1: gets boring. I want to ask you too, Amy Wills

537
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Speaker 1: is standing here interviewing you. You go to any NFL event,

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Speaker 1: there are so many more women around covering it than

539
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Speaker 1: where when I started over twenty years ago in the league.

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Speaker 1: You're a trailblazer in that. How does that make you feel?

541
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Speaker 1: Because you know you're part of it, right And I

542
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Speaker 1: until people bring it up. It's not really something I'm

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Speaker 1: necessarily thinking about. But I do recognize that when I started,

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Speaker 1: there aren't very many women around. And I will say

545
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: too that through the years again, if you're not really

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Speaker 1: serious about it, and your motivation isn't in the right

547
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,479
Speaker 1: place of why you want to do it, you won't last.

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Speaker 1: So it's nice to see lots of women who are

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00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: still in it. Michelle Defoya and Lisa's Soldiers, and Andrea

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00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: Kramer and Pam Oliver, these women who have been around

551
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: this for a really long time, still doing their thing

552
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: and then hopefully blazing the trail in the right way

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Speaker 1: for the women who want to be a part of it.

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Speaker 1: So here's what I wonder. Right we mentioned you're from Philadelphia,

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00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: could you have done it in your mind if you

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Speaker 1: didn't have that Philly girl tough thing that you grew

557
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: up with. There's definitely an edge, there's no doubt about that,

558
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: you know, which I've always been proud of and I've

559
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: always been you know, through the years from the very beginning.

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Speaker 1: It was unusual to see a woman, you know, doing

561
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Speaker 1: local sports as I was. But I was always my

562
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Speaker 1: toughest critic. Nobody could have been a tougher critic on

563
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: me anyway, and I've always been a perfectionist, so nobody

564
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: could have been asking me to work any harder than

565
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: I already would have been anyway. And I think it's

566
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Speaker 1: just because as a kid, I love the game so

567
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: much and always felt connected to it. I never felt

568
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Speaker 1: when I was in the room with all guys, which

569
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Speaker 1: a lot of times I still am now, never felt

570
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Speaker 1: out of place, always felt like I was just a

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Speaker 1: part of it. It's always felt natural, and I think

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Speaker 1: that's really been the biggest part. Good stuff from Susie Calber.

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Speaker 1: That's a real thrill to meet her. Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: it was just the coolest thing. I was so excited

575
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: and like low key, really nervous about it, but I

576
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 1: tried to be cool. But she was very She put

577
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Speaker 1: you at east, Yes, she really. I was very nervous

578
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Speaker 1: to meet her too, and she was not. She didn't

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Speaker 1: big time us at all. Oh gosh. No, she didn't

580
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: talk to us for a really long time and was

581
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: just just an absolute light until the security guards came

582
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Speaker 1: and took us away. It was as pleasant as anything

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Speaker 1: we've had. Next week we have real football on the

584
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Speaker 1: OTP because we're going to talk about the voluntary mini camp,

585
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: which is great. Yes, we're not going to do a

586
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Speaker 1: podcast on the draft until week after next because the

587
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 1: draft won't end until next weekend, right, So next week

588
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: we're going to talk football. I'm so excited. Now. Maybe

589
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: there'll be something to preview. Maybe John Robinson will have

590
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 1: already made a big trade by then. We will just

591
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 1: have to wait and see. But we've got a lot

592
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 1: of a lot of football coming up. And you're on

593
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Speaker 1: the way to Arlington. I am on my way to Arlington.

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Speaker 1: We will be in sunny Texas and it's going to

595
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: be great. I've never been to the Big Stadium, so

596
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: you've never been to Jerry World. I've never been, so

597
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 1: this is a fun opportunity for me. Well good, you'd

598
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Speaker 1: be your third draft. It will be my third draft.

599
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 1: What will be interesting to see is will the Titans

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Speaker 1: number one draft pick be there? Fingers crossed. I really

601
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: hope that he is, but if not, I'll just meet

602
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: him when we get back tonight. And you'll beat a

603
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: lot of Titans fans too, because what they're doing for

604
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: the fans, particularly the Titans season ticket members, is unreal. Oh, gosh,

605
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: it's going to be the coolest thing they're going to have.

606
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: Was it fifty people from each team down on the field,

607
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: right in front of where everything's happening. I'm really really

608
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 1: excited to see what this looks like. And gosh, what

609
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: a cool experience for season ticket members. Awesome stuff. Maybe,

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Speaker 1: well's good job. Thank you. I'm Mike Keith, and you've

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