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Speaker 1: What an incredible game six between the Celtics and the Sixers,

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Speaker 1: an absolute nightmare game from Jason Tatum that turns around

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Speaker 1: at the end on the strength of four made three

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Speaker 1: point shots. Interesting adjustment as well from Joe Missoula that

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Speaker 1: they had not really tried much during the series. A

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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk some basketball. So you know, it's

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Speaker 1: funny I was sympathizing with Jason Tatum tonight because the

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Speaker 1: game of basketball can be really cruel sometimes specifically jump shooting, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just there's so much variance. And you

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Speaker 1: see this a lot with sports that are low percentage sports,

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Speaker 1: things like baseball, things like golf, where you fail a

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Speaker 1: lot more than you succeed. Right, you know, you're aiming

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Speaker 1: for fairways and on really different difficult courses. You might

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Speaker 1: have a day where you hit seven out of eighteen fairways,

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Speaker 1: Like if you're the best baseball player on the planet,

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Speaker 1: you fail six out of ten times. Like Steph Curry

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Speaker 1: is shooting below forty percent from three in this playoff run,

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Speaker 1: and he's the best shooter to ever touch a basketball.

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Speaker 1: You work, You know, these guys. A lot of people

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Speaker 1: don't realize. If I were to put Jason Tatum on

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Speaker 1: and shoot threes, he's gonna make seventy seven seventy eight

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Speaker 1: And that's how cool the game of basketball can be.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes your hard work can fail you, specifically when it

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Speaker 1: comes to jump shooting. You guys have seen this a

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Speaker 1: lot with Lebron James in this playoff run. Lebron James

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Speaker 1: five straight postseason runs where he shoots thirty seven percent

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Speaker 1: You know, Philly's gonna come thinking they can win. They've

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