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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Klay, Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: As of today, as of right now, Biden has decided

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Speaker 2: to go all in on I'm not going anywhere, doesn't

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Speaker 2: care what big names want him out, doesn't care about

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Speaker 2: the reporting. Oh, the big donors, and I've thought that's

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Speaker 2: all along. Yeah, the big donors can squawk and get

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Speaker 2: upset about whatever. Are they going to start writing checks

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Speaker 2: or Republicans are they going to allow Donald Trump to win?

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you're a Democrat billionaire, you're probably a

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Speaker 2: little disconnected from reality and likely to be somewhat emotionally

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Speaker 2: unstable because.

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump is threatening our democracy.

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Speaker 2: So I think that you're going to end up writing

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Speaker 2: a check to Biden no matter what. That's my and

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Speaker 2: I think that's what Biden's calculation is on all of this.

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Speaker 2: To be clear, now, there is another situation here, and

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Speaker 2: I'm not exactly sure how this one's going to go. Well,

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Speaker 2: no one's sure how it's gonna go quite yet. I

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Speaker 2: don't think Biden's sure how it's going to go. And

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Speaker 2: it is not just he's too old, he's got cognition issues,

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Speaker 2: but if it comes out that he is in the

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Speaker 2: grip of a degenerative brain disease, age related. Degenitive brain

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Speaker 2: brain disease, right, usually age related, I think they are,

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Speaker 2: but this is something that's coming up more and more.

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Speaker 2: I want to note that Alex Berenson is going to

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Speaker 2: be with us at the top of the next hour,

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Speaker 2: and he's and this is from White House logs, from

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Speaker 2: official White House logs. This is not some conspiracy theory.

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Speaker 2: He's going to present to you evidence that in his

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Speaker 2: mind shows Joe Biden actually has a true degenerative brain issue.

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Speaker 2: I'll let him tell you specifically what that is, but

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Speaker 2: you'll definitely want to stay around with Remember Alex was

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Speaker 2: the guy who when everyone thought, even a lot of conservatives,

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Speaker 2: the vaccines are amazing, They're going to save us all

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Speaker 2: from COVID. They're going to work, he was like, actually,

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Speaker 2: they don't work at least not in terms of transmissions

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Speaker 2: and very little in terms of anything else.

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Speaker 1: So we're going to listen to him on this one.

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Speaker 1: That'll be coming up in a little bit.

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Speaker 2: But there was one moment on the Morning Joe interview

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Speaker 2: when everybody was kind of looking at each other like, hey, yeah,

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Speaker 2: play a good round of eighteen this weekend. You know,

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Speaker 2: Morning Joe is a very You get to be part

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Speaker 2: of this secret club of smug You get to just

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Speaker 2: sit there and be so smug. That's really the advantage

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Speaker 2: of Morning Joe watching. So it is kind of fun.

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Speaker 2: But they asked, or they brought up this thing about

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Speaker 2: whether he has been tested for age related illness.

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Speaker 1: I want you to hear. This was on the phone

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Speaker 1: call the Morning Joe this morning. This is cut to.

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Speaker 3: Look I had before. I was feeling so badly before

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Speaker 3: the debate. When I came back, they tested me before.

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Speaker 3: I thought maybe I had COVID, maybe there was something wrong,

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Speaker 3: I had an affection or something. They tested me, they

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Speaker 3: gave me those tests that was clear. So but look,

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Speaker 3: I had a bad night. The fact of the matter is,

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Speaker 3: look at what I'm doing. I mean, let me put

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Speaker 3: this way. If there was something that was wrong that night,

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Speaker 3: it's not like it comes and that's one night and

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Speaker 3: goes away. That's why I've been out. I've been testing myself,

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Speaker 3: been testing everywhere I go, going out and making the cave.

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Speaker 3: The night of that debate, I went out.

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Speaker 4: I was out of two o'clock in.

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Speaker 3: The morning that very night, that very night, it drives

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Speaker 3: me nuts people talking about this play.

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Speaker 2: He will always avoid this. He will not do any

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Speaker 2: outside medical cognition testing. If they I think you'll see

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Speaker 2: more and more of this, they will fight tooth and

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Speaker 2: nail to make sure that it doesn't come out, or

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Speaker 2: that rather that there's no official diagnosis of Parkinson's, Alzheimer's,

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Speaker 2: Louis Body, Huntington's, any of the diseases of the mind

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Speaker 2: of the brain that can affect it, because that I

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Speaker 2: think that I think would become too hard to hold

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Speaker 2: back people if they.

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Speaker 1: Found out right now.

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Speaker 2: So they they've they've only got to keep this under

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Speaker 2: wraps for a month, right, that's the whole thing.

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Speaker 1: They've just got to get to the convention. Well.

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Speaker 5: And I think they're intentionally probably avoiding a official diagnosis

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Speaker 5: because we're going to talk with Alex.

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Speaker 1: That's what I mean.

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Speaker 2: You can't you can't pr a diagnosis of degenerative brain disease.

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Speaker 5: But I think the reason they're having all these meetings

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Speaker 5: with people is they're like, oh, we suspect this might

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Speaker 5: let's pretend that this was the condition. What's the best

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Speaker 5: way that we could treat it. Let's just you know, like,

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Speaker 5: let's just hypothesize that we knew someone who is in

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Speaker 5: a really important position of power, and really, what should

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Speaker 5: we be doing? And Buck, this is what really is

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Speaker 5: going on. I think right now where he is, they

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Speaker 5: can somewhat hide him on a teleprompter because he is

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Speaker 5: because he he's done it for fifty years. He's skilled

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Speaker 5: enough to still be able to look at words directly

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Speaker 5: in front of him and respond in a way when

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Speaker 5: it is all set out for him. Now, sometimes he

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Speaker 5: reads things that he shouldn't be reading, like when he

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Speaker 5: said go get him at the end of the at

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Speaker 5: the end of the speech that stayed in the Union

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Speaker 5: a couple of years ago. But as soon as they

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Speaker 5: get him off the teleprompter, that's when he falls apart.

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Speaker 5: And so I don't know how they can protect him

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Speaker 5: from having to react to questions.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Did you watch the Stepanopolis interview on the day? So

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Speaker 5: I watched that. My kids wanted to watch WWE SmackDown,

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Speaker 5: So we were flipping back and forth. It was only

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Speaker 5: twenty two minutes whatever it was. Even there he got

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Speaker 5: helped by Stepanopolis. A couple of times he couldn't remember

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Speaker 5: what the polls were, and Stephanopolis.

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Speaker 1: Kind of gave him the life line there.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if they show him up on September

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Speaker 5: tenth at the second debate and trot it out there again.

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Speaker 1: He can't go off prompter.

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Speaker 5: So I suspect what they'll do is they will claim

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Speaker 5: that he is vigorous, that he is incredibly with it.

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Speaker 5: They'll tell him do not read anything other than what

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Speaker 5: is on the prompter, and they will do their best

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Speaker 5: to try to protect him that way. And if there

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Speaker 5: is an acknowledgment that his counter coup has worked, what

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Speaker 5: you will start to see is what has already begun,

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Speaker 5: which is even Joe Biden with dementia is better than

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Speaker 5: Donald Trump. That's going to become the rallying point that

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Speaker 5: you will see Democrats adopt. Now some of them have

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Speaker 5: already got their legs cut out, Like I think it's

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Speaker 5: funny Stephen King and Rob Reiner and some of some

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Speaker 5: of these left wingers who have been super active on

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Speaker 5: social media, and I think, what is it five or

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Speaker 5: six congress people so far at this point have said

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Speaker 5: he needs to be replaced.

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Speaker 1: But that is where we'll play.

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Speaker 5: An audio clip for you, and we come back of

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Speaker 5: our good friend Whoopee Goldberg basically saying that she would

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Speaker 5: vote for Joe Biden even if he's pooping his pants

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Speaker 5: all the time.

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Speaker 2: That's where they are, that's what Actually she actually said

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Speaker 2: that this and we're being it's not hyperbole. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's a bidenism right there. It's not hyperbole, it's not

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Speaker 2: a joke.

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Speaker 1: It's actually real.

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Speaker 2: Uh no, I I but that's to me, the only

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Speaker 2: there there's induced Biden to drop out, and they're somehow

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Speaker 2: he's forced into a corner or it comes out officially

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Speaker 2: that he has a degenerative degenerative brain disease because he's old,

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Speaker 2: he's lost a step, he's foggy. People can tell themselves

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Speaker 2: that's fine. He has a medically diagnosed condition. That means

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Speaker 2: that his brain is only going to get worse, and

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Speaker 2: you cannot rely on his judgment and cognition right now.

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Speaker 2: Then I think the voices can be loud enough that

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Speaker 2: he realizes it's not going to happen, so that to

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Speaker 2: is the only other risk factor that he runs right now.

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Speaker 5: Remember too, this is not going away. We made the

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Speaker 5: Federman and analogy. You don't suddenly reverse age. He's not

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Speaker 5: gonna Benjamin button things and start doing cartwheels and backflips soon.

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Speaker 5: I do think, though, that Democrats are a little bit

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Speaker 5: whistling past the proverbial graveyard, maybe even the actual graveyard.

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Speaker 5: In this context. He's going to screw up in a

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Speaker 5: big way multiple times between now and November. He may

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Speaker 5: fall coming down Air Force one.

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Speaker 1: St I was gonna say, he said clear that the

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Speaker 2: Room now for I mean, what could be worse than

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Speaker 2: the debate in terms of any of this. He would

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Speaker 2: have to have something. He falls down, he's gonna say

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Speaker 2: he tripped. I mean, well, but.

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Speaker 5: It all just circles back to the debate. The debate

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Speaker 5: was such a disaster that you can't take it away

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Speaker 5: from people's minds.

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Speaker 1: And that's why I think it interesting. I think people

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Speaker 1: will forget.

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Speaker 2: I think you got to I think you got to

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Speaker 2: turn up the cynicism, my man.

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Speaker 1: I media, you're gonna have give it a month. Rob

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Speaker 1: Rygers is gonna be like Joe Biden is defending our democracy.

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Speaker 1: You know it's they're gonna say it.

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Speaker 5: But and there's forty five percent of people out there

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Speaker 5: because they are voting for the team, not the candidate.

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Speaker 5: The problem is, I don't think this is a savable candidacy.

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Speaker 5: And look, there are things we haven't even hardly been

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Speaker 5: giving advice to the Trump team. They've done a good

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Speaker 5: think that Trump is in a unique position where he

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Speaker 5: has house money the likes of which he's never had

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Speaker 5: before in the history of his candidacy. He's a great

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Speaker 5: insurgent candidate. Can Trump run a campaign where he's got

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Speaker 5: needs to avoid creating a big stir. I don't know

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Speaker 5: that he can. I think that's one thing to keep

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Speaker 5: in mind. Can we have a completely disciplined Republican national Convention.

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Speaker 5: Can Republicans get out of the way and not like

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Speaker 5: themselves on fire for the next four months to help Biden?

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure that I think they can.

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Speaker 5: You know, what is Bill Belichick's number one advice, buck

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Speaker 5: when it comes to winning games, do your job. Can

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Speaker 5: Republicans just do their job? Or are they going to

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Speaker 5: they going to trip all over themselves and bring Biden

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Speaker 5: back in the game, not by any virtue of his

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Speaker 5: incredible play, but just by Republican incompetence.

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Speaker 2: I just I want you all to remember that I

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Speaker 2: said this on July eighth. Okay, because I understand right

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Speaker 2: now there's a lot of stuff going on out there,

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Speaker 2: a lot of tripping from people in the interwebs. I

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Speaker 2: still believe that the most dangerous candidate that Joe of

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Speaker 2: that Donald Trump faces is Joe Biden. That doesn't mean

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Speaker 2: I don't think Trump can win. I think Trump is

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Speaker 2: winning right now. But I think that when we get

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Speaker 2: were living in a parallel universe when everybody realized Biden

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Speaker 2: was so far behind and he's so weak and everything else,

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Speaker 2: and this is just where it Clay. I think the

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Speaker 2: COVID experience factors into the way that I view politics

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Speaker 2: in the world so much. They'll just all lie, and

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Speaker 2: they will just all go along with it. They will

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Speaker 5: Feels to me like is going to be a daily

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Speaker 1: All of you, Alex.

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Speaker 2: The as far as I can tell, as far as

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Speaker 1: The Biden campaign is straight up saying but well, they're

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Speaker 5: did you say eight or nine times that we know

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Speaker 5: of running up to March because the dates actually are

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Speaker 5: the visitor logs run behind. How is this not a

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Speaker 5: massive story if you are given all of these conversations

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Speaker 5: that are going on right now about Joe Biden's mental

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Speaker 5: and physical health, how would this not be the number

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Speaker 5: one story which leads to this question? And Buck and

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Speaker 5: I were talking about it. Is this something that and

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Speaker 5: I'm asking you to analyze because otherwise that makes sense.

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Speaker 5: Is this something that the New York Times and the

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Speaker 5: Washington Post are keeping in their back pocket and they're

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Speaker 5: trying to pressure Biden without having to go quote unquote

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Speaker 5: nuclear directly on his health. What do you attribute the

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Speaker 5: reticence to actually report this to I have no idea.

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Speaker 4: But here again, like you could have said that about

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Speaker 4: the Hunter button laptop, you know, and that was pre

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Speaker 4: election in twenty twenty. There was an explicit new media

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Speaker 4: old media Washington establish a conspiracy to block discussion of that,

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Speaker 4: and no one disagrees now that it's real. Okay, So

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Speaker 4: so the same thing like this to me, does not

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Speaker 4: indicate in any way that this is not real. It

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Speaker 4: just indicates that we're not allowed to talk about it yet. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and by the way, again, I'm not saying that we

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Speaker 4: know there Maybe there's another explanation here. They haven't given one.

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Speaker 4: But given what we've all seen in in our own

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Speaker 4: eyes in the last couple of months, how can this

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Speaker 4: You're right, how is this not topic a Alex?

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Speaker 2: Do you think that if if it came out in

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Speaker 2: some way, in an official way, that they couldn't ignore,

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Speaker 2: which I don't even know if that's a possible. You know,

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Speaker 2: we're getting it's getting very Soviet in in this White

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Speaker 2: House in a lot of ways, right. They're they're really

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Speaker 2: telling you that while people are starving, the grain harvest

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Speaker 2: is fabulous. I mean, it's it's pretty crazy out there.

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Speaker 2: But if it came out that that Biden has Alzheimer's.

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Speaker 2: At that point, is it even irrelevant the schedule everything else,

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Speaker 2: you know? Does it become common on your mind or

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Speaker 2: do you think they just try to push through that.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't know it. Here's what I'm saying, Parkinson's,

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Speaker 4: These these neurological diagnoses are essentially clinical, meaning that you

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Speaker 4: go into the doctor, you talk to the doctor, the

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Speaker 4: doctor observes you, and you and you get a diagnosis. Right.

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Speaker 4: It's not like, oh, you have heart failure and it's

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Speaker 4: this level of heart failure based on the blockages in

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Speaker 4: your arm which we can scan for. Or you have

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Speaker 4: cancer and the cancer, you know, has spread to your

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Speaker 4: lift notes so it's stage three or what you know. However,

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Speaker 4: they stage a particular cancer. These are clinical diagnoses, so

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Speaker 4: if you really want to be fine, you can get

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Speaker 4: you can get essentially the medicines that would be diagnosed

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Speaker 4: without the diagnosis. Okay, again, I'm not saying that they're

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Speaker 4: doing that. I'm just saying that that there are ways

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Speaker 4: for them to have played this that don't quite rise

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Speaker 4: to the level I guess of lying or you know,

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Speaker 4: or or criminality, but that are that are obviously problematic.

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Speaker 5: That's the question that we talked about and we need

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Speaker 5: to have this discussion, is that they're basically treating him

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Speaker 5: as if he has Parkinson's without getting the official diagnosis,

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Speaker 5: so they can claim that he hasn't been diagnosed.

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Speaker 4: Is that true? Like nobody knows, we just know.

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Speaker 5: I mean, but that's that's to me, what would make

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Speaker 5: the most sense. I mean, if I told you that

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Speaker 5: I had had I don't know a uh, a doctor

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Speaker 5: come to my come to treat me nine times for

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Speaker 5: uh for a speech speech related issue and uh, and

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Speaker 5: then I said, you know, but I haven't actually been

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Speaker 5: diagnosed with any problem, most of you out there would say, well,

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Speaker 5: that's that's really kind of dancing around the edges. That

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Speaker 5: to me seems the most logical. But the number one

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Speaker 5: thing which you're pointing out is how in the world

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Speaker 5: is this not covered everywhere?

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Speaker 1: It's major news given what's going on right now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So you know, I'm gonna keep pushing it. I

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Speaker 4: know there are a handful of other reporters will keep

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Speaker 4: pushing it. You know, if Elon chooses to retweet one

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Speaker 4: of us and put it in front of one hundred

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Speaker 4: million people on x that can help. But yeah, when

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Speaker 4: the when, the when the major media outlets, you know,

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Speaker 4: sort of have this conspiracy of silence, it becomes very hard.

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Speaker 4: And by the way, conspiracy science is exactly right. There

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Speaker 4: was a piece, a great piece, but you know, a

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Speaker 4: very very troubling piece that I wrote about last week

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Speaker 4: on on Reported Truth. A woman named Olivia Newsy and

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Speaker 4: I'm apologize if I'm mispronouncing her. She's a New York

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Speaker 4: magazine reporter. She wrote about how, you know, Democratic donors

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Speaker 4: have been talking about Biden's problems for the last six months,

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Speaker 4: and then halfway not halfway through, towards the end of

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Speaker 4: the piece, she read and I saw Biden, who I

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Speaker 4: had covered basically throughout the twenty twenty campaign, in may

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Speaker 4: Enterry in April of twenty twenty four, and he did

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Speaker 4: not recognize me and he appeared not to be there. Okay,

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Speaker 4: So who's one of that conspiracy of silence? If not

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Speaker 4: just the donors, it's a media and that's clearly happening

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Speaker 4: with this.

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Speaker 2: Also, we've got Alex's substack right now. Oh, sorry to

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Speaker 2: cut you off, New York Times, New York Times, just

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Speaker 2: breaking Alex. As we're talking to you Parkinson's expert visited

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Speaker 2: the White House eight times in eight months. The story

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Speaker 2: lead story up at New York Times dot com just

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Speaker 2: up right now, literally as we are discussing with you

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Speaker 2: why they are not covering.

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Speaker 4: It, guys, I gotta go, and I think you know why.

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Speaker 1: Yep, all right, man, I could just be clear. We

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Speaker 1: Alex broke it, We gave it.

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Speaker 2: We put Alex on the air, and now the entire

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Speaker 2: country is about to be talking about this. The entire

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Speaker 2: news cycle is about to be obsessed with this. Uh,

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Speaker 2: go subscribe. This is why we tell you go subscribe

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Speaker 2: to Alex's subsets. Literally lead story right now, New York Times,

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Speaker 2: just as we're talking to you live he everybody, Wow,

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Speaker 2: that is quite a thing. All right, Alex, go save

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Speaker 2: the Republic. Yeah, guys up at clayanbuck dot com. Just

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Speaker 2: to make it easy for you, We've got Alex's piece

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Speaker 2: there and you can also click the link and and

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Speaker 2: uh and subscribe to his substack. And this is why

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Speaker 2: we bring him on. This is you know, we look

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Speaker 2: for uh for things that you need to know. This

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Speaker 2: was not something anywhere else, and now it is in

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Speaker 2: real time as I'm speaking to you, the the electrons

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Speaker 2: are flying all over the internet. This is becoming the

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Speaker 2: biggest story in the country. And prices on Buck Island

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Speaker 2: are going down a little bit. Right, the waterfront lots

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Speaker 2: on Buck Island might be a drop it in price

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Speaker 2: a little bit. We'll take your calls on this, honestly

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Speaker 2: love to hear. Let's put her open to docs play.

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Speaker 1: We're talking with Alex Bearnson.

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Speaker 5: We scheduled him on Saturday after his report that a

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Speaker 5: Parkinson's expert had visited the White House that came out

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Speaker 5: on Saturday morning. We scheduled them for one o'clock. News

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Speaker 5: to Alex Barns and we may play that clip for

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Speaker 5: you again. But I just want to share the latest

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Speaker 1: People are trying to get out of the.

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Speaker 5: The purchases that they were considering, making this morning headline.

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Speaker 5: Parkinson's ex expert visited the White House eight times in

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Speaker 5: eight months.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 5: And then I've read this article during the during the

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Speaker 5: break there, but I want to hit you with a

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Speaker 5: couple of paragraphs. An expert on Parkinson's disease from Walter

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Speaker 5: Reed National Military Medical Center visited the White House eight

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Speaker 5: times in eight months from last summer through this spring,

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Speaker 5: including at least once for a meeting with President Biden's physician,

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Speaker 5: according to official visitor logs. Okay, now, the White House

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Speaker 5: has responded to this story. The doctor did not respond

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Speaker 5: to repeated request for comment, uh from the White House from.

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Speaker 1: The New York I mean.

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Speaker 5: Capt yeah, yeah, yeah, he's got Parkinson. Like okay, he

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Speaker 5: says nothing White House. I mean like, I mean like

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Speaker 5: he's under you know, it's oath. He's oath, yes, violated

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Speaker 5: hippocratic oath to come out and tell everybody, Hey, here's

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Speaker 5: what I'm treating him with. The White House comment was

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Speaker 5: as follows. A wide variety of specialists from the Walter

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Speaker 5: Reed system visit the White House complex to treat the

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Speaker 5: thousands of military personnel who work on the grounds. That

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Speaker 5: is the official spokesperson from Andrew Bates' White House spokesman said, Okay,

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Speaker 5: I want to let you react to that in a

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Speaker 5: minute here Buck Bates also said President has not had

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Speaker 5: a neurological test since February. And I want to add

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Speaker 5: this because it's a little bit of detail on the reporting.

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Speaker 5: Doctor Cannard's eight most recent visits started on July twenty eighth,

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Speaker 5: twenty twenty three. He's listed as Alex told us as

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Speaker 5: me with Megan Nasworthy. She is a White House liaison

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Speaker 5: to Walter Reed, as Alex just told all of us.

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Speaker 5: She is someone who has consistently been one of the

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Speaker 5: medical team for Joe Biden.

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Speaker 1: The meetings. This is also important.

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Speaker 5: The meetings consistently occurred early between seven and nine am

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Speaker 5: on Fridays, with the exception of the roast recent meeting

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Speaker 5: on record, which occurred on Thursday, March twenty eighth, the

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Speaker 5: day before Good Friday. There are no updated notices about

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Speaker 5: visits for April, May, June or July to the extent

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Speaker 5: that these medical visits have continued. Okay, your reaction to

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Speaker 5: that information that is all just coming from the New

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Speaker 5: York Times first.

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Speaker 2: Thing is after we were giving what we believe was

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Speaker 2: credit where it's due for a good turnaround effort. In

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Speaker 2: terms of the news cycle from the Biden White House,

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Speaker 2: the letter to Congress was pretty well written and compelling

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Speaker 2: under the circumstances, you know, making the strong I think

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Speaker 2: they made the strongest argument for Biden that you could.

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Speaker 2: And mourning Joe the you know, the smug country club table,

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Speaker 2: they were all, okay, Joe, you called in, you're sounding good.

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Speaker 2: I think that they've mishandled this a little bit because

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Speaker 2: I don't think anyone believes and this is why Clay

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Speaker 2: laid out that information that this is a coincidence. What

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Speaker 2: they're going with here, here's what they could say. We

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Speaker 2: have people checking on Biden.

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Speaker 1: He's great.

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Speaker 2: Of course, of course we've got somebody who has you know,

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Speaker 2: we want to make sure that Joe Biden is mentally

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Speaker 2: fit as a fiddle and he's good to go and

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Speaker 2: no problems here.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: Of course a lot of us would say, well that's

656
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Speaker 2: a lie, but that's at least defensible to say that

657
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Speaker 2: this is a coincidence. And to your point, someone's getting

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Speaker 2: visits at the White House for dementia.

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Speaker 1: This makes us.

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Speaker 2: Remember, nobody at the White House, in any form of employment,

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Speaker 2: should be so old that they have to get frequent

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Speaker 2: visits from a Parkinson's or you know, general motor disorder expert.

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Speaker 1: Right, you see what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, the White House is working and in their

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Speaker 2: in their eighties.

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Speaker 1: I was unfortant.

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Speaker 5: This is what we were saying off air when they're saying, hey, this,

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Speaker 5: there's thousands of people who work in the White House.

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Speaker 5: You don't get Parkins disease if you're a thirty two

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Speaker 5: year old Secret Service agent by and large, And if

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Speaker 5: you did, would the doctor show up eight different times

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Speaker 5: early in the morning at the White House to conduct

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Speaker 5: an examination of you?

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Speaker 1: By the way, you would you would have to. I

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Speaker 1: mean to be very sad, but you would have to.

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Speaker 2: You wouldn't be able to continue in that role, and

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Speaker 2: you'd have to get a form of disability, and that

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Speaker 2: that would be the right thing under that circumstance. So, yeah,

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Speaker 2: who else in the White House is at risk of

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Speaker 2: Parkinson's right now?

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Speaker 1: They shouldn't be in the White House.

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Speaker 2: This is we've created this bizarre world. We're the most important,

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Speaker 2: most powerful job in the entire country is the one

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Speaker 2: job for which you don't actually need to have a

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Speaker 2: functioning brain. We've said this a million times. What other

686
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Speaker 2: we've talked about Walmart Greeder, you've talked about OutKick, you

687
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Speaker 2: talked about what job would Joe Biden get. The job

688
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Speaker 2: would be grandpa who is retired and spends time with

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Speaker 2: his family and feeds ducks. That is the job he

690
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Speaker 2: actually should be doing, and that would be fine, by

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Speaker 2: the way, that would be a beautiful thing. He instead

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Speaker 2: thinks he should be commander in chief for four more years.

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Speaker 2: But well, here's what I think is going on. They

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Speaker 2: realize they're they're running out the clock, meaning that the

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00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 2: whole game here is to get to the election with

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Speaker 2: Biden as the nominee and then figure out what they

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Speaker 2: want to do next. And with each passing day that

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Speaker 2: Biden remains the de facto nominee, it gets harder to

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Speaker 2: replace him. They aren't trying. And I also believe this.

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Speaker 2: I think that for Biden and all the people around him,

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Speaker 2: they recognize. You know, we don't talk about this very much.

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Speaker 2: No one thinks Joe Biden's gonna be running the country

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Speaker 2: for four more years, even if he wins. No one

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Speaker 2: thinks that the whole game here. And this is the

705
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Speaker 2: quiet part not being set out loud yet, But the

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Speaker 2: quiet part is Joe is going to step down and

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Speaker 2: let Kamala take over in twenty twenty five. Of course,

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Speaker 2: I mean, of course that is what they're planning to

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Speaker 2: do here. So in that situation, you can see how

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Speaker 2: they can begin to twist the arms of people who

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Speaker 2: say Joe's not up for this. They'll turn around and say,

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Speaker 2: shut up, He's gonna be okay until the election. He's

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Speaker 2: our best shot, and then we'll figure the rest out.

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Speaker 2: And that's where this diagnosis issue and all the rest

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Speaker 2: of it they're not They couldn't keep this up for

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Speaker 2: four years? Play can they keep it up for four months?

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Speaker 1: Maybe? Here's the here's the other part of this buck.

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Speaker 5: How much of this is about threatening real consequences? You

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Speaker 5: and I talked about. Okay, maybe they give him fifty

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Speaker 5: million dollars and they give him a book deal, and

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Speaker 5: you mentioned Netflix and documentaries and all those things. I

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Speaker 5: want to read this additional paragraph to you, and I

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Speaker 5: want to ask you all this question right now. When

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Speaker 5: does covering up the president's health become potentially a criminal act?

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Speaker 2: Well, what will you have to what's the statute. You

726
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Speaker 2: got to tell me what the statute is that you

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Speaker 2: think it could be violating. Well, it's a it's a

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Speaker 2: really good question, conspiracy to deprive. No, by the way,

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Speaker 2: that question, I don't say that. Look what they did

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Speaker 2: with conspiracy to deprive? Right, let's look at the J

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Speaker 2: six Uh. I think there is zero doubt. And again,

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Speaker 2: this specific statute is a good question, and there are

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Speaker 2: people way smarter than that than me. But when I

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Speaker 2: think about if you are telling America that someone who

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Speaker 2: does not have the mental faculty to be president of

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Speaker 2: the United States based on your knowledge, and again this

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Speaker 2: is why I I think the protection they have is

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Speaker 2: they're avoiding saying he's been diagnosed, and they're saying, let's

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Speaker 2: pretend that we did have a guy who was eighty

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Speaker 2: one years old and had a high stress job and

741
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Speaker 2: he is giving substantial symptoms that he has issues.

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Speaker 1: How should we treat him? What would the.

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Speaker 5: Theoretical example of that be without getting a direct diagnosis.

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Speaker 5: But here I think this is important inside of the Times,

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Speaker 5: and why I bring it up an array I'm reading

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Speaker 5: from the Times, an array of neurologists who have not

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Speaker 5: personally examined. Biden said they observed symptoms in his public

748
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Speaker 5: appearances that were consistent with Parkinson's or a related disease,

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Speaker 5: such as hyphophonic speech, forward flex posture, a shuffling gait,

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Speaker 5: masked face, and irregular speech patterns, but they emphasize that

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Speaker 5: a specific diagnosis could not be given without firsthand examination.

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Speaker 5: Reason why I ring bring this up butt the twenty

753
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Speaker 5: fifth Amendment is there for this, for this exact situation.

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Speaker 5: But how do you force the implementation of the twenty

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Speaker 5: fifth Amendment if everybody surrounding the president owes their entire job,

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Speaker 5: power and status to influencing and implementing the twenty fifth Amendment.

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Speaker 2: And I would yes, And I think it even more

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00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 2: problem problematic situation for those for those individuals. If you

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Speaker 2: invoke the twenty fifth Amendment weeks before the Democrat National Convention,

760
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Speaker 2: the convention will be an absolute yes, just melee of crazy.

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Speaker 2: And I think you guarantee that Donald Trump wins the

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Speaker 2: presidential election because it will to anyone who's still thinking

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Speaker 2: about you know who they're going to vote for whatever,

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Speaker 2: it will show just disarray, dishonesty, and chaos from within

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Speaker 2: Democrat ranks. Let me also raise this is a question.

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Speaker 2: I understand the doctor has a hippocratic oath, but uh, oh,

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Speaker 2: shouldn't shouldn't Congress call him in front of a congressional

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Speaker 2: testimony and ask him under oath? Given the dangers of

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Speaker 2: someone not being mentally and physically able to be president,

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Speaker 2: I don't think.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they could force him to testify.

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Speaker 5: I think that, But can you imagine the visual of

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Speaker 5: Biden's doctor sitting in front of the Uh.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna say that he that he's on it.

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Speaker 2: It would be like having Biden's lawyer or something you're

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Speaker 2: not allowed, or a psychiatrist you're not allowed to force

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Speaker 2: testimony of that.

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Speaker 5: Well, but what I think it could lead to is

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Speaker 5: a demand that there be some form of public test

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Speaker 5: of his mental factor.

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Speaker 2: This is the is what I've said. The test is

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Speaker 2: a thing they have to avoid. If they avoid the test,

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Speaker 2: an outside test of Biden's neurological health, Let's just be

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Speaker 2: honest about it. Exactly what we're talking about here. If

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Speaker 2: he makes it through the convention, they'll just shout anybody

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Speaker 2: down and we'll see how the voting goes.

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Speaker 5: American safety and security And I understand the precedent that

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Speaker 5: you're setting, which is sad and dangerous. And by the way,

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Speaker 5: why we shouldn't have, frankly, eighty two year old who

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Speaker 5: couldn't fly airplanes, allow eighty one year olds allowed to

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Speaker 5: be president of the United States.

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Speaker 1: This is my big thing.

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Speaker 2: They're forcing out, They're forcing out pilots, who are you know,

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Speaker 5: But shouldn't we have a Blue Ribbon panel because the

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Speaker 5: other thing is, I hate to say it, I don't

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Speaker 5: trust who's going to give him the test.

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you, Clay on Biden's neurological health. They're gonna

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Speaker 2: try to go full Biden laptop. They're just gonna say,

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Speaker 2: no test, no test, Shut up, there's no test. He's

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Speaker 2: fine because if they submit the whole the whole thing collapses.

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Speaker 2: And the worst thing would be for Biden to submit

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Speaker 2: to a test like that, which by the way, he

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Speaker 2: will not do. Mark mywork, he will not do it.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know this. This turns into the whole

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Speaker 1: That's why the question.

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Speaker 5: I will play that Alex answer for you again at

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Speaker 5: some point, but we have calls, by the way from

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Speaker 1: Want to wait ten Yeah for sure.

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Speaker 5: about the Biden health related issue and the woman I'm

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Speaker 5: family friend, and allow you to give all of your

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Speaker 5: related analysis, but you have been talking with me and

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Speaker 5: my family for some time about what you see as

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Speaker 5: a neurologist in terms of Joe Biden's physical and mental health.

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Speaker 5: Give us your background, if you would, and then kind

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Speaker 5: of walk through what your diagnosis of Biden would suggest.

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Speaker 6: Well, Hello, nice to talk to you today. Yeah, I've

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Speaker 6: been a neurologist for seventeen years. I do general neurology

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Speaker 6: with some specialization. But you know, it's something Biden is

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Speaker 6: a little bit difficult when you're not in the room,

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Speaker 6: but it's but there's some obvious clinical traits that he's

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Speaker 6: been exhibiting for years. And we're talking since gosh, since

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Speaker 6: dating back to the debates in twenty twenty. Before that election,

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Speaker 6: he was having some difficulties as cognition certainly first, and

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Speaker 6: he certainly is you know, has has memory loss. He

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Speaker 6: does have a dementia, and everyone has to remember that

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Speaker 6: the word dementia is more of an umbrella term where

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Speaker 6: there's lots of different types of dementias, the most common

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Speaker 6: of course being Alzheimer's disease, but you know that doesn't

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Speaker 6: necessarily mean that he has that. More typically we see

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Speaker 6: the you know, the Alzheimer's disease, but we also have

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Speaker 6: front of temporal dementia, basket of dementia, and Louis Valley dementia.

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Speaker 6: And what's interesting is that the movement disorder specialist of

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Speaker 6: Parkinson's disease from Me to the White House is especially

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Speaker 6: interesting because the front of temple dementia patients do exhibit

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Speaker 6: up a lot of Parkinsonian features that can be associated

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Speaker 6: with that diagnosis.

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Speaker 2: How much can be don doc, thanks for being with us.

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Speaker 2: This has often talked about with with the medicines. For

867
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Speaker 2: I know, no one knows what a specific diagnosis is

868
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 2: for Joe Biden right now on this or what whether

869
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 2: he has one or not, and.

870
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Speaker 1: What it would be.

871
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 2: But in general terms, I mean when it comes to

872
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 2: things like Louis Body, Alzheimer's, Parkinson's things we've discussed here.

873
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 2: Is there a lot that can be done with treatment

874
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 2: these days for someone who's in Biden's position, who's trying

875
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 2: to still function at a particularly high level, or are

876
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 2: the drugs pretty limited in their effect?

877
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Speaker 6: So right, it kind of depends on which diagnosis it

878
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Speaker 6: is correct.

879
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 3: So paces with.

880
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 6: Parkinson's disease, for instance, and we're telling and I'm talking

881
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 6: about idiopathic Parkinson's disease, primary, not the secondary parkinson ism,

882
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 6: but primary Parkinson's. Do these patients, do you fairly well

883
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 6: and respond well to something called carvedopa? Leave the dopa

884
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 6: because what it is is it's typically a movement disorder

885
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 6: that has a lack of dopamine or a neurotransmenter that

886
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 6: helps us initiate movements. And that's you see with Biden,

887
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 6: with President Biden with his slowness of movement, difficulty initiating movement,

888
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:06,760
Speaker 6: the stooped posture, difficultly with walking gates, masked or expressionless space.

889
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 6: Those are typical things that can be helped, and particularly tremor.

890
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,720
Speaker 6: But you don't see a tremor necessarily with President Biden.

891
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 6: But those types of symptoms can be managed quite well

892
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 6: with carbon don't believe a DOPA. Parkinson Ism, on the

893
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 6: other hand, due to a different cognitive problem or a

894
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 6: neurodegenerative problem, are not as well treated with the carbon

895
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 6: don't believe it dopa, and they just try to treat

896
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,919
Speaker 6: the symptoms as they come, and it's not really well.

897
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 6: You can't really manage it as well as you'd like.

898
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 6: Particularly Louis body dementia, you see a very rapid decline,

899
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 6: a lot of fluctuation of cognitive status, meaning that one

900
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Speaker 6: day Grandpa might look really great, and the next time

901
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 6: you see him, gosh, Grandpa doesn't look very well. The

902
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 6: swings of commission and mental collapse are very common in

903
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Speaker 6: that diagnosis.

904
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Speaker 5: We're talking to a doctor in Nashville, family friend who

905
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 5: has been talking about this for some time.

906
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Speaker 1: I want to ask you. You mentioned that you could.

907
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Speaker 5: Go back and look at the twenty twenty debates and

908
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:18,879
Speaker 5: start to see some potential symptoms of an issue. When

909
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 5: we now have a report coming out from the New

910
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:24,280
Speaker 5: York Times which also cites in that article many different

911
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 5: neurologists as saying what you're telling us, that there are

912
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 5: a lot of symptoms.

913
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Speaker 1: He is exhibiting when.

914
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 5: You hear that they've had eight different visits in basically

915
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Speaker 5: the last eight months or so to the White House,

916
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 5: and you see, as all of us do, the different

917
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 5: videos of him seeming to freeze up during the June teenth,

918
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 5: looking filled with lack of comfort in many different ways.

919
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 5: Does this appear to you to be progressing? And if

920
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Speaker 5: it is, how fast can progressions like these go? What

921
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 5: would a Joe Biden in your mind in twenty twenty

922
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Speaker 5: six or twenty twenty eight look like based on what

923
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Speaker 5: you've seen from twenty twenty four to now.

924
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Speaker 6: Well, first of all, I don't really think that the

925
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Speaker 6: Parkinson's disease diagnosis is what he has, because what you

926
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Speaker 6: saw in the twenty twenty debates in early and the

927
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Speaker 6: you know, early two twenty twenties, you know, twenty one,

928
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Speaker 6: twenty two, twenty three, you see his memory loss almost

929
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Speaker 6: before the movement's got really bad. And that to that,

930
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 6: I mean that the dementia that comes with Parkinson's disease

931
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Speaker 6: is usually very late in the disease process. He already

932
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Speaker 6: exhibited the memory loss features much earlier a lot, and

933
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Speaker 6: it kind of coincided with his movement problem and so

934
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Speaker 6: that's why I think it tends to be more of

935
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Speaker 6: the neurodegenerative change of gluis by dementia. And now that

936
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Speaker 6: being said, now Parkinson's patients can typically works fairly well.

937
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Speaker 6: I mean, we had Michael J. Fox, for instance, who

938
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Speaker 6: was even on the moon be set, doing fairly well

939
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 6: and trying to work as an actor with the diagnosis

940
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Speaker 6: of idiopathic Parkinson's disease, trying to manage maybe overmanaged with

941
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Speaker 6: some of his carbidope believe a dopa as he had exhibited,

942
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Speaker 6: you know, initiation of movement problems and over stimulating himself

943
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Speaker 6: a little bit with the CARBI. Don't believe a dopas

944
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Speaker 6: because it makes you feel.

945
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Speaker 1: Good, Hey, doctor, problem go ahead, doctor.

946
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Speaker 6: Hensha Is you Yeah. The Louis body dementia, however, will

947
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 6: progress very fairly rapidly. It doesn't, It won't. It won't.

948
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Speaker 6: The memory problems especially will you'll progress and certainly by

949
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Speaker 6: twenty twenty six. I don't think the few people you'll

950
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 6: see a definite decline.

951
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Speaker 2: General question, doc, And it ties into that for somebody

952
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 2: who has one of these conditions that we're discussing here,

953
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:56,760
Speaker 2: does the stress of I mean, look, it's the stress

954
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,280
Speaker 2: of being the president we're talking about. But does staying

955
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 2: in a high stress job, you know, effect the day

956
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 2: to day of the progression of the disease. You know,

957
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 2: it's like if you if you were in a super

958
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 2: high stress role and you were at risk of stroke, Like,

959
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:15,360
Speaker 2: that's not a good idea, right, or maybe heart attack

960
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 2: not a good idea. What about with this, Like does

961
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 2: it make it worse if there's more taxing demands on

962
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:22,399
Speaker 2: your mind?

963
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, With any type of dementia, and I'm particularly thinking

964
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 6: that President Biden has the luid paty type, it will

965
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 6: be important to have a routine. You have to be

966
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:40,879
Speaker 6: very careful and getting good sleep, and you can only

967
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 6: function just a few hours out of the day. We

968
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:46,840
Speaker 6: as neurologists will tell patients to kind of use the

969
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:50,399
Speaker 6: best times with mom or dad or Grandpa grandma at

970
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 6: the times when they're really really good, maybe between the

971
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 6: hours of seven am and eleven am, because after that

972
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:59,359
Speaker 6: it's really not help. They can't function well. So it's

973
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 6: really important them to be on a good routine. You know.

974
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 6: At my patients with bad mentioned, we'll take the keys away.

975
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 6: I mean, we don't let them drive a car. You

976
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 6: just can't function at a normal They have to be

977
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 6: watched all the time.

978
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 1: So let me let me build on that.

979
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:20,359
Speaker 5: Let's say that this, uh, this, these doctors that are

980
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 5: trying to treat Joe Biden. We were talking about on

981
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 5: the air that there's a patient confidentiality aspects of that.

982
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 5: But you just mentioned taking away the keys of the car.

983
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 5: Obviously the president's not driving himself. But what obligations or

984
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 5: responsibilities do you think a doctor treating someone in a

985
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 5: position of this significance might uniquely have as part of

986
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 5: being a doctor that is different than you treating somebody's

987
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 5: grandma or grandpa. Uh, how does that play into the

988
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 5: way that you would respond and be treating someone in

989
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 5: a position like this.

990
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 6: Yeah, certainly what these doctors are doing is trying to

991
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 6: give of medicines that might help you. Start with Kirby,

992
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 6: don't believe it, don't, but to see if any of

993
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 6: the parkinsonian features help you start with the maybe some

994
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 6: medicine at not to stop the sundowning or the confusion

995
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 6: that occurs in the nighttime hours, but the you know,

996
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 6: every physician takes a hypocritical and that hypocritical is to

997
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 6: do no harm.

998
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 4: And so.

999
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 6: The doctors have a responsibility to do no harm to

1000
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 6: the patient, do no harm. And the president of the

1001
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 6: United States has also an oath to be honest with

1002
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 6: the country, as you know, to do no harm and.

1003
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:35,439
Speaker 4: In his position as well.

1004
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 6: So it's really up to the physicians to honor that

1005
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 6: oath of to do no harm. And certainly letting patients

1006
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 6: do a job that they cannot fully function in is

1007
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:49,280
Speaker 6: doing harm.

1008
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 5: What do you think last question for you, and thank

1009
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 5: you for the time here. What do you think doctor

1010
00:55:55,560 --> 00:56:00,320
Speaker 5: Jill Biden, Joe Biden's wife would be seeing bah behind

1011
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 5: the scenes compared to what we see in public. In

1012
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 5: other words, I'm sure when you talk to a lot

1013
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 5: of your patients, one of the people that's bringing them

1014
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 5: in kids, you know, wives, husbands, whoever, it might be

1015
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 5: because of what they see that others might not see.

1016
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 5: And initially they may not want to believe it. They

1017
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 5: might not want to believe that their life partner is

1018
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 5: having these sort of challenges. From a psychological perspective, what

1019
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:28,800
Speaker 5: do you think she's going through?

1020
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 1: What do you think she's seeing?

1021
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 5: Because we're only seeing Joe Biden, the President of the

1022
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 5: United States, for five percent of the day at most,

1023
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 5: what do you think she seeing behind the scenes?

1024
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 1: Right?

1025
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:40,879
Speaker 6: And there's a reason why you're seeing only at five

1026
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:43,799
Speaker 6: percent of the day, right, because it can cognitively only

1027
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 6: be there five percent of the day. You know, it

1028
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 6: is really tough on caregivers and family members. The diagnosts

1029
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 6: believe the demssia in particular is difficult because of the

1030
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 6: fluctuation of the cognitive status and the swings that you'd see.

1031
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 6: But more important, you know, if you could really if

1032
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 6: I could talk to him, it would be interesting to

1033
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 6: hear if he'd have any that. Most of the patients

1034
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:09,320
Speaker 6: do have some visual hallucinations. For instance, they might see

1035
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 6: some animals or people that aren't there, and typically they

1036
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 6: don't even bother the patient. They'll admit that they see them,

1037
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 6: but they're not truly hallucinations that are bothersome to the patient.

1038
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 6: But he might so he might be taught, you know,

1039
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 6: being able to talk. He certainly wouldn't tell us that,

1040
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 6: but but that would be one of the things. Sundowning

1041
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 6: at night, the confusion at night is a big problem

1042
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:36,479
Speaker 6: with patients with any type of dementia. Remember that any

1043
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 6: any type of dementia would have sun downing that's what

1044
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 6: it's called. And then there's certainly some executive function problems,

1045
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 6: some kind of a disinhibition where they do things or

1046
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 6: say things that they might not we might not want

1047
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 6: them to say in book, might be what they're saying

1048
00:57:58,680 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 6: at home.

1049
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 2: Doc, really appreciate the expertise telling us about what the

1050
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 2: possibilities are here, and thank you so much for.

1051
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:08,439
Speaker 1: Calling in, and we may have to have you back,

1052
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 1: so please keep your pager.

1053
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 2: Wait do you guys still have but you don't have

1054
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 2: pagers anymore? Yeah, okay, thanks Doc, thank.

1055
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 1: You, thanks for being with us.

1056
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 2: So, yeah, Clay, remember that when doctors, doctors abulers had

1057
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 2: pagers and that was pretty much it for a while.

1058
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, And kids who were trying to seem like really

1059
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 5: big deals in high school, do you remember that, like

1060
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 5: one or two kids in a classroom, but.

1061
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 1: My mom's got a page me. It's like, yeah, I

1062
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 1: don't know if that's true.

1063
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, we often talk here about building

1064
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 2: a economy that aligns with your values. And there's a

1065
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 2: whole bunch of different things that companies, for example, that

1066
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 2: are coming to the forefront. Now they're doing that and

1067
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 2: guess what, there's a credit card company, and I've got

1068
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 2: mine right here. That's right, this is my credit card

1069
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 2: from Coin. It's spelled co I g N. It's a

1070
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 2: credit card back by Visa. See Clay says, we the

1071
00:58:59,000 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 2: people it's got.

1072
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 5: To just looking at it, hoping you weren't given away info.

1073
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 5: But I think everything's on the backside.

1074
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:06,959
Speaker 2: I checked with Kerry beforehand, so I'm not sharing because

1075
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 2: you can see it on the live stream, I'm not

1076
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 2: sharing any any personal confidential information. You can see the

1077
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 2: front of it though, very cool design from coin. Why

1078
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 2: should you get a coin credit card? Well, because Coin

1079
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 2: was created to advance conservative values and embrace the American spirit.

1080
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 2: I've got one, Clay's got one. They donate a portion

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Speaker 2: of every purchase you make to conservative causes. So you

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Speaker 2: can stay with some left wing credit card company that's

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Speaker 2: trying to fund nonprofits and things that are really hurting

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Speaker 2: your mind, where your heart is. And like I said,

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Speaker 2: I've got my coin actually just arrived over the week

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Speaker 2: and I'm gonna start using it this week. Go to

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