1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: with on our radio. 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 2: Hey guys, we welcome to the Almost Famous podcast. Today, 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 2: Ben and I are here to recap episode two of 5 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 2: Grant season. 6 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 3: Hi, Ben, what's up. 7 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 4: It's a big episode obviously every season. It's where we 8 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 4: start to get to know the contestants involved and we 9 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 4: start to see maybe some themes that will understand from 10 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 4: the Bachelor or wherever the lead is throughout the season. 11 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 4: I remember Joey's season, Episode two is where we're really 12 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 4: started to go. This guy's got what it takes to 13 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 4: be a really good lead. He was listening, he was responding, 14 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 4: and the season kind of picked up from episode two. 15 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 4: This episode, we were just talking, have a lot of 16 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 4: high hopes for the season in front of us. There 17 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 4: is some shocking moments that we're going to talk about. 18 00:00:56,440 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 4: One of the most shocking moments I've had in recent 19 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 4: history when it comes to eliminations. The other Mark and 20 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 4: I don't know listeners argue with us on this. I 21 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 4: don't want this to sound like a bashing of the show. 22 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 4: We're obviously still into the show when we have a 23 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 4: lot of high hopes for us this season, but one 24 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 4: of the words I would use to describe this episode 25 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 4: specifically was a little cringey. It was had a lot 26 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 4: of like dead awkward moments for me. 27 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 5: There was so many unimportant moments for me. 28 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 2: You know, I always say, like the moments that make 29 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 2: me want to grab my phone and start scrolling. 30 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 5: I had a. 31 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 2: Number of those where I was just listening and I 32 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 2: was like, this is so inconsequential. 33 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 4: It felt like, you know, we watched the Bachelor franchise 34 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 4: because it is that upper level reality show where yeah, 35 00:01:54,320 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 4: you know, you can fantasize, you can romanticize, you can 36 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 4: get hooked into the storylines, and it feels like, in 37 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 4: a lot of ways, it's not reality and it isn't right. 38 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 4: You're not gonna go on helicopter rides, You're not going 39 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 4: to go these fancy dates. You're not gonna have this 40 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 4: person show up to a random place and play a 41 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,399 Speaker 4: private concert for you. A lot of this is all overblown. 42 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 4: This episode, I think, almost to me felt like watching 43 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:24,239 Speaker 4: a home video. 44 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 2: Like yeah, okay, wow, I was gonna say we TV, 45 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 2: but you just beat it there with the home video. 46 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 5: It felt really low budget. 47 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 4: It did okay, so let's dive in and talk about 48 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 4: this episode, the good, the bad's the uglies, and why 49 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 4: we maybe felt like it missed the mark when it 50 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 4: comes to the standard that's been placed for over twenty 51 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:47,679 Speaker 4: five seasons on The Bachelor. 52 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 3: So start at the very beginning. 53 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 4: The ladies are in the house, they're excited, and we've 54 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 4: had enough Grant puns so far to fulfill those quota 55 00:02:58,760 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 4: for the rest of the season. 56 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:05,399 Speaker 2: And we're still continuing with the that's my husband, that's 57 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 2: my husband talk. I still think it's way more this 58 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 2: season than ever before. 59 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 5: Oh my god, Parisa gets through this week and Alicia didn't. 60 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 5: I'm just discovering this reading out that group list. 61 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 4: We're going to talk about that in a bit, Ashley. 62 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 4: That's obviously one of the most shocking moments for us 63 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 4: this season. This is a group date where they're going 64 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 4: to play basketball. It makes sense. It's what Grant loves, 65 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 4: it's what he did professionally. We knew this was coming. 66 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 4: They weren't going to miss the opportunity to do a 67 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 4: basketball date. They had the kids involved, which is always 68 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 4: a good added touch. However, I felt the kids were 69 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 4: underutilized when it comes to their comedic relief, their energy levels, 70 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 4: the ways they could almost put pressure on these women 71 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 4: a little bit because they ask good questions. I felt 72 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 4: like the kids this episode or this date were underutilized, 73 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 4: I agree, and almost made it not make sense on 74 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 4: why they were there. 75 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, that was a point that I didn't 76 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 2: think about, but now that you mention it, I agree, 77 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 2: because they were really cute when they were fair. The 78 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 2: shining moment with them was definitely with Natalie. Was she 79 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 2: sat with that girl and what did they even I 80 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 2: don't remember what they talked about. 81 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 3: That girl was like. 82 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 4: Out of breath and now kind of like calm back down, 83 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 4: which was very sweet. It was very much a show 84 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 4: of comfort that she knows what she's doing, She's fine 85 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 4: in those situations. This date really is marked by the 86 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 4: fact that they played basketball. Nobody there as a contestant 87 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 4: is extremely good at basketball, but they The whole point 88 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 4: of this date I think leads up to the most 89 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 4: climactic moment, which is where Zoe steals Grant away from 90 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 4: really their only group activity during this date, which is 91 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 4: a dunk contest, which could have been funny to watch. 92 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 4: I could have seen where it made like decent television 93 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 4: to see these women trying some fancy dunks and doing 94 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 4: some funny stuff. 95 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 5: How are they gonna dunk? Is that why it never happened? 96 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 4: Okay, okay, not on ten foot, But Zoe steals grant Away. 97 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 3: So my first question to you, Ashley as we break 98 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 3: this episode. 99 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 4: Down, is Zoe in the wrong for stealing grant Away 100 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 4: in this moment? 101 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 2: Maybe did it when she did it when she was 102 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 2: told to do it. 103 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 5: I can't get around it. 104 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 3: But she did. 105 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 4: She did it, and so it doesn't matter if she 106 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 4: was go erst or told hey, this is a good idea. 107 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 3: She did it. She made the choice to do it, 108 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 3: and so was it a good decision? 109 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 5: No, No, it's never a good decision. 110 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 2: It's it's a good decision sometimes if you actually is 111 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 2: it really ever a good decision? 112 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 5: Is it really ever? 113 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 3: I don't think it's a good decision. 114 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 5: No, I don't think so. I thought that she also 115 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 5: seemed so. I don't know. 116 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 2: When she took up to the roof, I didn't like 117 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 2: the way she was talking to him. I can't really 118 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 2: describe how she was talking to him, but like it 119 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 2: was just like yeah, no, yeah no, And I was 120 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 2: just like, God, this is why you stole him to 121 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 2: have this kind of conversation. 122 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it always shows a little desperation when 123 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 4: somebody does something like this. I don't know if it's 124 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 4: a bad decision. In two or three weeks, when you're 125 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 4: on a group date and you're like, Hey, we haven't 126 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 4: had any one on one time. I want to make 127 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 4: the effort to get someone on one time with you 128 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 4: because it doesn't seem to be happening any other time, 129 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 4: and so I am going to ask you to spend 130 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 4: some time with me. This on the first group date, 131 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 4: when the women are still trying to figure out what 132 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 4: and the heck they're doing here and how these things 133 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 4: even work. Yeah, it felt like there's only one way 134 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 4: this could go, and it would be controversial with the 135 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 4: women involved. Now, the controversy is going to happen. Issues 136 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 4: are going to happen in the house. That's how the 137 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 4: show's set up. But I think a philosophy for most 138 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 4: people as they come on the show Kelsey on Joey's 139 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 4: season would be a great example of this is, hey, 140 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 4: try not to force controversy or try not to allow 141 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 4: controversy to slip in. And this interruption feels like it 142 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 4: would only go one way with everybody else in the house. 143 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 4: And honestly, I don't know if Grant's far enough into 144 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 4: it yet, but at some point he'll get there or 145 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 4: he should have said no. The reason is it distracts 146 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 4: him from the date. It makes everybody stand around for 147 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 4: as long as they were away from each other. So 148 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 4: it does make the women a little bit upset with 149 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 4: him or just not having a good time. And the 150 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 4: best thing he has on his side right now, Ashley, 151 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 4: is that the women could at least have a good 152 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 4: time during these dates. Like that's the one thing he 153 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 4: has to his advantage is these dates are going to 154 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 4: be set up for everybody to enjoy themselves, and if 155 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 4: he loses that, he just has a bunch of bored, angry, 156 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 4: confused people. 157 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 5: Yeah. 158 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 2: Well, the steal that I thought was interesting was later 159 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 2: at the cocktail party, Ali Joe did she interrupt? I 160 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 2: feel like she was the one that she was like 161 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 2: totally done with Zoe and Kauz. Zoe interrupted Juliana, We 162 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 2: like Juliana, but Ali Joe. 163 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 5: Is like, hey, can I can I steal you? 164 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 2: And then she was like he hesitated, and he was like, 165 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 2: I'm going to come back to you. Like he's still 166 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 2: into Zoe, doesn't care about any of these interruptions. Yeah, 167 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 2: he said, I want to give you the two minutes. 168 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 2: You're right, I want to give your last two minutes 169 00:08:58,679 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 2: or something. 170 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 4: I think Grant's going to be a great bachelor. I 171 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 4: think he's a very handsome. I think he's kind. I 172 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 4: think he cares. I'd say, if we're at all picking 173 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 4: apart his strategy or how he's looking at things right now, 174 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 4: I would say his mistake is that he might be 175 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 4: too easily swayed by some of these interruptions and that 176 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 4: he should have said no to both of these. They're 177 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 4: not helpful. Right, You've already had your time. What's going 178 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 4: to be said in the next five minute conversation that 179 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 4: you have that wouldn't be said already. 180 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 3: When she stole you? 181 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 4: And so he needs to, in a sense, manage this 182 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 4: thing before it blows up on him, and that every 183 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 4: woman in the house is mad at each other or 184 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 4: they're mad at Zoe. If he likes her, one of 185 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 4: the ways to show that he likes her is to 186 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 4: protect her and say, hey, this isn't a good points like, hey, 187 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 4: we're good, you're going to be here next week. 188 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 3: We'll get another week together. It's gonna be fine. 189 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, But I'm want to go move and talk to 190 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 4: some of the other ladies. He also has some This 191 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 4: is the wrong word, but I think it will make 192 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 4: sense fighters in the house, meaning they aren't afraid to 193 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 4: stand up for what they believe in and what they 194 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 4: think is right. And I think we're already seeing that, 195 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 4: which is a great quality to a human. It's not 196 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 4: a bad quality. But what it does do when you 197 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 4: have enough of those and they have a common enemy, 198 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 4: it can get very chaotic. Yeah, in the house and 199 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:30,119 Speaker 4: on these dates. 200 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,839 Speaker 2: Yes, So we know that Zoe is a fighter. We 201 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 2: know Ali Joe is a fighter. Anyone else who's like 202 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 2: really sticking out to you. I'm even thinking that Chloe 203 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 2: could be. 204 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think Chloe could be. I do 205 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 4: think Juliana has a little bit of it in her. 206 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 4: And I think we're gonna see, like some of the 207 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 4: Baileys of the world stand up at some point. But 208 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 4: I think so far what we're seeing is at least 209 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 4: we've got a few on this date specifically. Now, honestly, 210 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 4: it doesn't matter which team won. One team blew out 211 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 4: the other wasn't even a game, which I don't think 212 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 4: really mattered when it came to this date at all. 213 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 4: It it almost I wish it would have because it 214 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 4: would have made this date a little more important, But honestly, 215 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 4: it felt like the basketball date, for all they could 216 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 4: have done with it, was just a filler in a 217 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 4: lot of ways, Like that. Was there anything really that 218 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 4: came from that date of importance other than Chloe getting 219 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 4: a little bit. 220 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 3: Of time with him? 221 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 5: Not really. 222 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 2: I could it would be nice if he did one 223 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 2: on one with both the girls. Yeah, it could have 224 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 2: also been like kind of intimates. 225 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 4: So we're through the first part of the date and 226 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 4: we move on to a really beautiful date with Alex. 227 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 4: On one date, Alex did receive the first impression Rose, 228 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 4: which Commit promised her the first one on one date 229 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 4: of the season. 230 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 3: I love that idea. 231 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 4: I love that the first impression Rows also gets the 232 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 4: first one on one. However, I do think it really 233 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 4: catapults them to the top and far beyond for a 234 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 4: few weeks everybody else. But I do like what the 235 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 4: show did this season where add a little bit uh 236 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 4: more to that first impression Rose, Alex and Grant have 237 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 4: a tremendous first date. 238 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 3: I think it was again odd for the show. They 239 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 3: did it in like a mall. 240 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 5: I was like, this is the Beverly summer, like I 241 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 5: used to just go shop there. Yeah, it's just like 242 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 5: the most average. Honestly, it's a really average mall these days. 243 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 4: I mean, it looks like any other mall that like 244 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 4: isn't really in business anymore. And they had it to themselves, 245 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 4: which is cool. And I love the smell of them all. 246 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 5: I love the smell of them all. 247 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 3: The fountain in the middle that makes them all. 248 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:04,439 Speaker 4: Like chlorine, and then you know everybody's like germs everywhere 249 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 4: and the prencil like malls a cool place. I wish 250 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 4: the mall would make its resurgence, even though I don't 251 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 4: know how it would, but to have it the day 252 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 4: stable at the mall, it feels again like it missed 253 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 4: the mark because it wasn't. I don't know what it 254 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 4: was like. I don't know the point of going to 255 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 4: the mall. And then they like had some stars open 256 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 4: to them and they got to. 257 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 3: Do that. 258 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 4: But I don't even know if. I mean, these people 259 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 4: are so young, did they even ever go to a 260 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 4: mall growing up? I mean, Grant said he did, but 261 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 4: did he really? 262 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 5: Yeah he did. 263 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, there is a there's a four year 264 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 2: age gap with us. 265 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:48,559 Speaker 5: Isn't he thirty two? 266 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 2: Oh he's thirty, so he's six years there. The malls 267 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 2: were still around. I understand what they were doing. The 268 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 2: purpose was to make them feel like kids again. It 269 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 2: was silly though. It's like the big wow factors, like 270 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 2: there's a big rose on the screen and she's supposed 271 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 2: to be like, holy cow, oh there's a rose on 272 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 2: the screen. And then they go around and do these 273 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 2: silly bachelor things where it's like they bump each other 274 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 2: with these moving stuff animal horses, and they jump on 275 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 2: a bed as if like in life, we ever effing 276 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 2: jump on a bed. 277 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 3: I've never jumped on a bed in my life. And 278 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 3: they broke that bed. 279 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 4: So the show really backfired on if they're doing low 280 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 4: budget date, they're like, no, now I have to buy 281 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 4: a bed. I can see how this played out, though, 282 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 4: for whatever reason, this is what the show chose to do. 283 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 4: These are my least favorite dates, Ashulely when I was 284 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 4: a bachelor, because there was so many activities that the 285 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 4: show wanted you to do. You can't like get in 286 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 4: a rhythm and you're like bouncing around from the thing. 287 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 4: Now the show's like how fun would it be if 288 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 4: you got on those things and hit each other? And 289 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 4: you're like, wasn't really thinking about that, but yeah, let's 290 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 4: do it. 291 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 2: That's just like it's stupid giggles to me, like I 292 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 2: think i'd be doing this. I'm just feeling like really dumb, 293 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 2: like I would never do this with somebody, and like 294 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 2: this isn't that much fun. I can't pretend like it's fun. 295 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 4: It's too planned, is what I would say. Is it's 296 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 4: too formulaic to make it fun. There's too many things 297 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 4: that we're asked. If they just said, hey, let's go 298 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 4: to the mall, we're going to open up a few stores, 299 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 4: you guys like have your pick and have a little 300 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 4: fun with them, great, But they had all this set 301 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 4: up and so it was like almost like they were 302 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 4: moving station to station to station instead of just like 303 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 4: kind of letting loose. So as a result, I don't 304 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 4: know how much of their personality we actually got to see, 305 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 4: because I think it was also planned and it felt 306 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 4: planned to me. I do, though, think they're date together. 307 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 4: They have the chemistry, they have the comfort it feels 308 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 4: like the two of them are very attracted to each other, 309 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 4: and so I am leaving this date going a great 310 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 4: first date again it so let usfies our idea that 311 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 4: Alex is going to probably be here a while. 312 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 2: Great first date. You forgot to mention the most important 313 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 2: part to the date to me, and that was when 314 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 2: he played the piano for her. That could have been 315 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 2: the only stop. 316 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 3: It was good, It was really good. 317 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 2: I had so much respect for him ad liping that song, 318 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 2: coming up with that from the top of his head 319 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 2: like there is a hook there. It was a romantic 320 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 2: That was a That was a good bachelor moment. 321 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 4: Shout out to Grant for coming out with his first 322 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 4: single on Spotify last week. 323 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 5: I would download it like, there's that dune, dune dune? 324 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 2: How do you come up with that on the spot 325 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 2: That's just a lot about somebody's No, he did actually. 326 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 4: Come out with the song on Spotify last week. Oh really, 327 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 4: not that song, but a different song. Oh yeah, party 328 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 4: girl or something. 329 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 3: Really need to hear this, No, you gotta look it up. 330 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 3: It's not the song you heard it girl. 331 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 2: Wouldn't it make sense if it was this song? Because 332 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 2: I would actually want to listen to this song again. 333 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it did. He did. I mean he's great. 334 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 4: He's he's very swoony in these moments, and you can 335 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 4: see why people or why the girls are like, hey, 336 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 4: I like this guy. 337 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 3: Again. 338 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 4: I go back to thinking, I think he's going to 339 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 4: be a great lead if he doesn't get in trouble 340 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 4: in the house, meaning that this chaos becomes such a 341 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 4: focus point that he can't actually invest in these relationships 342 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 4: because he's going to have four or five dates and 343 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 4: the women are going to go I got to tell 344 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 4: you what's going on in the house. And that's always 345 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 4: some annoying moment of the season, and I think it's 346 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 4: going to happen a lot this season. I just expect it, 347 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 4: and then it's going to take away from who he 348 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 4: is and what the relationships could be. But I think 349 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 4: you and I both agree, Ashley, we walk away from 350 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 4: this one on one outside of everything else going, this 351 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:47,199 Speaker 4: is a they have a legitimate shot, right Oh yeah. 352 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 2: And they have a lot of commonality in their background 353 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 2: with having issues with parents and feeling like they come from. 354 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 5: Sort of a broken home. Yeah, especially with her. 355 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 4: Definitely they talk about it, and I think there is 356 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 4: a comfort, and I think she says it, there's a 357 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 4: comfort knowing that like Grant can relate with me and 358 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 4: that he understands the situation I'm in. I think that 359 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 4: obviously is a huge point. And here's the interesting part, Ashley. 360 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 4: Some seasons we see this being told second third one. 361 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 4: I went in right later in the season like, hey, 362 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 4: I just want to let you know Hometown's is going 363 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 4: to be rough for me because here's my family dynamic. 364 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 4: It's interesting to me that this was brought up right 365 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:37,199 Speaker 4: away and that they both could be shared, you know, 366 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 4: similar experiences, and that that's already on the table, so 367 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:45,360 Speaker 4: both of them know when they talk about family, this 368 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 4: is what the response is going to be, or maybe hey, 369 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 4: I'd rather not talk about family. I do think it 370 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 4: showed a level of comfort with the two of them 371 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,719 Speaker 4: that isn't always shown so early on. 372 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 5: Mm hmm. 373 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 2: I also think that it's nice that the two of 374 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 2: them know that they want to raise families, knowing that 375 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 2: they want to do the opposite of how they were raised. 376 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 4: That's yeah, and that's such a I mean, here's maybe 377 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 4: I'm just picky. I would love in those moments for 378 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 4: either of them to be like can you tell me 379 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 4: more about what you mean by that? 380 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 2: And you know, maybe they did and we just didn't 381 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 2: see it, because obviously they had a long time there. 382 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 2: And I actually think that they may have been there 383 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 2: until the sun rose, because I feel like I was 384 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 2: seeing glimmers of sunlight in there, and you know that 385 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 2: they didn't start until it got dark, So that's a 386 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,360 Speaker 2: really late time to start a one on one. 387 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 3: This sounds terrible. I think we how bad your breath 388 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 3: would be by the time the date's over. 389 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 2: I know, especially after're talking all that time than having champagne, 390 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 2: who the heckry mouth? 391 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 5: Gross? 392 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 3: Okay, disgusting? 393 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 2: So next day we actually probably have good amount to 394 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 2: talk about here. This is the singing and dancing group 395 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 2: date where they have to beasically be a girl band. 396 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 5: It was led by Robin Anton and. 397 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 2: She created the Pussycat dolls, so you know it's gonna 398 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 2: be sexy and I would I was just thinking how 399 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 2: I would fail this date because I can't sexy dance. 400 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 4: I was thinking about my wife and I was like, 401 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 4: just just would hate this so much, like she. 402 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 2: Doesn't Nat turned Jess and I on a date like this, 403 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 2: like overtly sexual, no. 404 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 4: Like they couldn't, like she wouldn't do it, Like I 405 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 4: don't know what she would do, it would be hilarious. 406 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 5: Oh my gosh. 407 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 2: So I feel bad for them, But the girls do 408 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 2: a great job. The thing to talk about on this 409 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 2: date is Carolina and the fact that she gets she 410 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 2: gets picked as like, you know, the winner of the date, 411 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 2: and then she goes ahead and straddles him and makes 412 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 2: out with him in front of the other girls, like 413 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever seen anyone do before. It 414 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 2: was like sex make out. It was like it was whoa, 415 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 2: it was whoa. 416 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 4: You know, I've talked about it one of my philosophies. 417 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 4: I think another safety mechanism for being the lead girl 418 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 4: or guy is to try your best not to kiss 419 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 4: any contestant in front of other contestants. 420 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 3: I think that. 421 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 4: I mean, it doesn't always work right, and it doesn't 422 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 4: always happen, especially when you're in the mansion. There's so 423 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 4: many viewing points that people can see you from if 424 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 4: they want. But to be blatantly in front of everybody 425 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 4: and do this, I do think causes some damage to 426 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 4: these relationships, and it makes everybody question where they actually 427 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 4: stand in these relationships and it heightens I think everybody's 428 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 4: thought process, and I need to do that at some point. 429 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 4: So then there's a world in which he's kissed every 430 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 4: girl in front of every other girl, and then things 431 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 4: get really weird because I think one of the benefits 432 00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 4: and Caitlin Bristow I think did a great job at 433 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:04,959 Speaker 4: this after a certain important time was you there's a 434 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 4: mystery to where the other relationships stand. Yeah, and everybody's mind. 435 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 4: So you're like, I really I think they like each 436 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 4: other a lot, but I don't really know because I've 437 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 4: never really seen them together. But it feels like, you know, 438 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 4: their eyes light up a little bit when they come 439 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 4: in the room. But maybe I'm reading too far into it. 440 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 4: I think if you get too physical with anybody in 441 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 4: front of anybody else, it it eliminates that mystery in 442 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 4: that other person's mind, and I think that's a dangerous 443 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 4: path to go down, especially this early haun. 444 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,439 Speaker 5: I feel like he's kissed everyone thus far. He's even 445 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 5: eliminated people he's kissing. 446 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 4: Week two. 447 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, that is nuts. That is nuts. It's actually worth discussing. 448 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 2: It might be it might be the first time that 449 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 2: anyone who has kissed night one is eliminated week two 450 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 2: and that would be Alicia. 451 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is shocking. 452 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 4: We're going to talk about alisiha a lot here as 453 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 4: this episode continues, because it is a shocker to us all. 454 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 4: But to end this kind of dancing date Carolyna obviously one. 455 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 4: I do think it was great. It was a fun date. 456 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 4: It had a lot of It was aesthetically fun like 457 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 4: a bachelor date would be right there, all out there. 458 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:18,120 Speaker 3: Doing their thing. 459 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 4: They're trying to get creative, They're putting themselves in a 460 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 4: little bit of an embarrassing moment, and they all step 461 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 4: up to the challenge. I didn't know if they all would, 462 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,199 Speaker 4: but they all stepped up. And I think that's always 463 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 4: something to applaud as we break down each episode. Is 464 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 4: it takes a lot of courage for them to get 465 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 4: up and do this. Even if you were uncomfortable doing it, 466 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 4: it doesn't matter. 467 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 3: You just did it. And so kudos all the contestants 468 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 3: for doing Bravo hard. 469 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 2: And hey, he voluntarily sang as well. Maybe that was 470 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 2: the single that you put out or does he just 471 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 2: want to be a rapper or like an R and 472 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 2: B artist. 473 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 4: With his release on Spotify, I think we're seeing where 474 00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 4: grants passions lie. You know, maybe if somebody asked him, 475 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 4: what would you love if you had a dream, where 476 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 4: would the Bachelor go for you? And he would say maybe. 477 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:11,679 Speaker 4: Music At this point is probably our best guess because 478 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 4: it is what he's focused on so much. And I 479 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 4: don't think it's going away. I think he's going to 480 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 4: continue to play and sing and write and do those 481 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 4: things throughout the season, and that would be fun to 482 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 4: watch because he is an entertainer and he crushed it 483 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 4: on stage during this date. But this day ends. No 484 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 4: shocking moments for me. During the dancing part, like everybody 485 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 4: did great. 486 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 5: I think right right, everybody did great. 487 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 4: I mean Carolina obviously straddling him making out with him 488 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 4: was the you know, the only takeaway that. 489 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 2: Was my biggest takeaway, well, between Alicia getting eliminated and 490 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 2: the most memorable Okay, those are the two most memorable moments. 491 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 2: Like I just can't believe the type of makeout that 492 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,199 Speaker 2: was not only in front of all the girls, but 493 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 2: in front of the audience, and it was just so strange. 494 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 3: I would feel very uncomfortable. 495 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 5: I would feel very unomfortable watching that if I wasn't 496 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 5: supposedly dating him either. 497 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd be uncomfortable if I was I close my 498 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 4: eyes during people making out on TV, so like if 499 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 4: I was an audience member, I'd be like, definitely feeling uncomfortable. 500 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 5: So weird. 501 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:24,120 Speaker 2: Okay, So after party cocktail party, he he pulls Rebecca 502 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,679 Speaker 2: aside to see if that there was any like energy 503 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,120 Speaker 2: off because he was sensing that, and she was like, oh, 504 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 2: you know, we all just feel feel like weird, you 505 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 2: know when you're out with other people, Like yeah, okay, 506 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 2: Well he I definitely think he pulled her aside because 507 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 2: he this sounds bad. I think he wasn't that into her. 508 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 2: That's why she doesn't get a rose. And he pulled 509 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 2: her aside because he was like, Oh, if I'm going 510 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 2: to talk about the vibe with someone, maybe i'll talk 511 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 2: to her to talk to the talk to a woman 512 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 2: who I'm not really into. 513 00:25:58,400 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 3: She's another shocker. 514 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, she was really high for you. 515 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 4: Well she was high for me, and she was a 516 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 4: big character during this whole episode. It's weird, I know, 517 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,400 Speaker 4: to have characters that have been focused on be eliminated 518 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 4: so quickly. It almost makes me feel like the show 519 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 4: didn't know or expect any some of these women to 520 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 4: be going home when they did. 521 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 3: She was a big character of this episode. 522 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 4: She was highlighted almost a whole time during the writing 523 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 4: part of this date, and there wasn't any controversy with 524 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 4: her other than the fact that he did feel like 525 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,120 Speaker 4: her vibes, you know, were off. 526 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 2: They even have like a character building scene with her 527 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 2: when she was talking about makeup with Dina. Yeah, so 528 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 2: why would they even throw that in there. 529 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 4: Either there's two options to this from my opinion. One, 530 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 4: they don't have enough content yet to really fill an 531 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,360 Speaker 4: episode and they have to find whatever they can get, 532 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,919 Speaker 4: which is never a good sign. Or they didn't expect 533 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 4: her to go home, but they had so much content 534 00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 4: on her because they thought she was going to be 535 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 4: a front run that they had to show it. 536 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, Letia gets the group date. 537 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 5: Rose. 538 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 2: I think she's sticking around longer than we thought she would. Oh. 539 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,919 Speaker 4: I think that conversation they had between the two of them, 540 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 4: I think her ability to bring up something that hurt 541 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:29,360 Speaker 4: her and there was a misunderstanding and the two of them, 542 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 4: you know, reconciling or coming to some type of understanding 543 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 4: shows a. 544 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 3: Big step in the relationship. 545 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 4: This early on, right, if this was your first date 546 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 4: with somebody or second date, let's say, second conversation and 547 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 4: you brought up Hey, you said something and it kind 548 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 4: of hurt me last time we talked. But I'm still 549 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 4: into this enough to still be here, and I want 550 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 4: to under I want to hear you out and what 551 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 4: you meant by that. For him to own it and say, 552 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I said something to do upid, didn't really 553 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 4: mean it. Jumped to some conclusions there, I think shows 554 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 4: that they they have some strength. I also just think 555 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 4: that he's obviously very into her, think she's beautiful, which 556 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 4: she is. But I think he very quickly when he 557 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 4: said you're so pretty, I bet you don't get said 558 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 4: said no to very often. I think that was a 559 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 4: sign that he is kind of infatuated with her, like 560 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 4: he's like, I want you around. So yes, she would 561 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 4: definitely be in my top three at this point. 562 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 5: Well, you're gonna have to fill in your top three 563 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 5: after the Alicia. 564 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 3: And I'm really messed over right now. 565 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 2: All right, Well, I guess it is. Oh, we'll talk 566 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 2: about Bailey before we talk about those eliminations. So Bailey, 567 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 2: I really I wasn't feeling her last week because I 568 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 2: was like, this girl's embarrassing with her like Emily and 569 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 2: Paris shtick where everything's on camera and she's like influencer girl. Well, 570 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 2: she was like really expressing how insecure she was, and 571 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 2: I felt her in this moment because she was like 572 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 2: just you could tell that she was like, oh wow, 573 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 2: I thought I was going to rock this process, but 574 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 2: this is not as easy as I thought it was 575 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 2: going to be, and everything that comes out of my 576 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 2: mouth seems awkward. So I really appreciated her just being 577 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 2: like being open about that, and I'm glad that she 578 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 2: got through. And yeah, I want to see more from 579 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 2: her now because I think that I just thinks she 580 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 2: came across so surface level the first episode and now 581 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 2: she's like, oh, okay, so this is me. Yeah, and 582 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 2: I'm not as confident as I was putting out there. 583 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean last I think last week, when we 584 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 4: broke this down, I made it pretty clear I thought 585 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 4: Bailey was going to cause some issues in the house. 586 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 4: I would backtrack on that statement now and say I 587 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,479 Speaker 4: think I might be wrong, and that there was a 588 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 4: huge jump in my mind for her this episode, saying yeah, 589 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 4: you know what, she had a weird first week. That's okay, 590 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 4: it happens. Everybody's nervous, everybody's awkward. They're trying to figure 591 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 4: out how they fit in this house. And I'm glad 592 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 4: she's around long enough so that we do get to 593 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 4: see it. I don't have the same opinion of Bailey 594 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 4: after two weeks that I did after last week. 595 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 5: We're on the same page, all right. 596 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 2: Now for the eliminations, Alisha's gone, Ella is gone, and 597 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 2: I Ella didn't really you know, we didn't really see 598 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 2: too much of her except for during this cocktail hour 599 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:36,959 Speaker 2: where she was all concerned that she was gonna leave, 600 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 2: and then Rebecca. So Alisha's got to be one of 601 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 2: the weirdest eliminations we've ever seen because we thought that 602 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 2: she was possibly going to get the first impression Rose 603 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 2: last week she was the first serious conversation that he had, 604 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 2: the kiss during the first night, the first kiss, as 605 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 2: so far as we saw, it was the first kiss. 606 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 2: And this week we had no screen time from her 607 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 2: and she went home. I need know, like, actually, guys, 608 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 2: instead of showing us some of the one on one 609 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 2: situations that we had or even fun makeup moments, I 610 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 2: would have loved to see if his interaction with her 611 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 2: was awkward enough to send her home like that? How 612 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 2: did they go from having a great connection conversation that 613 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 2: first night to this, like, did something happen? Was there 614 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 2: the most awkward conversation that just stalled out? 615 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 3: Here's my Ashley. I'm concerned. 616 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 5: I love it when he did things like that. 617 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 4: I'm concerned because I thought we took huge strides with 618 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 4: Joey's season when it came to character development and storylines 619 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 4: and making sense of things, so that we were, you know, 620 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 4: we had a great season with a big following because 621 00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 4: people were in the know right they could watch an 622 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 4: episode and kind of see and predict and understand why 623 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 4: things were happening the way they were happening. 624 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 3: Season's previous to that. 625 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 4: You and I sat on this podcast and we continued 626 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 4: to say, I don't know how this happened? What did 627 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 4: we miss? Yeah, stories don't seem to be completed. Why 628 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 4: are we not getting better storytelling? Why are we so 629 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 4: lost each episode on how things are going to happen? 630 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 4: Joey season fixed that for us, and people watched and 631 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 4: they invested into it, and they celebrated it and it 632 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 4: made sense. I'm afraid we're going back to what we 633 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 4: had We thought we had gotten through. Yeh, where we're 634 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 4: going to be sitting here week after week going I 635 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 4: don't understand, Like the story isn't complete, Like how did 636 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 4: Rebecca and him all of a sudden have a conversation 637 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 4: and she was such a main character and now she's 638 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 4: just gone and we don't know why she's gone. We 639 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 4: have no explanation for why she's gone. Alicia, they make 640 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 4: out last week. We thought she was at the front 641 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 4: runner on this show, and we shouldn't be that far off. 642 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 4: We shouldn't be predicting, like, hey, our top three and 643 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 4: one of our top three goes home in week two 644 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 4: after week one. 645 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 3: That shouldn't be a thing. We watched this show for 646 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,479 Speaker 3: long enough. We've been on the show ourselves. We should 647 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 3: know enough to make accurate predictions for at least who 648 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 3: we think could be there at the end. And that 649 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 3: could change a week of a week. 650 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 5: I have a stupid suggestion. 651 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 2: Do you think that any part of them was like, Oh, 652 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 2: this will really throw people off. It'll be shocking, and 653 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 2: shocking is good, kind of like back in the day 654 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 2: when somebody was eliminated from American idol. 655 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 5: And nobody ever would assume that they would be. And 656 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 5: then like it got headlines the next day and everybody was. 657 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 2: Like, could you believe that so and so is eliminated? 658 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 2: To do you think that in any way? They're like, 659 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 2: let's eliminate that scene so that people can wonder more. 660 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 2: I think this is I hope not. I actually don't 661 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 2: even think so. I'm just trying to come up with 662 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 2: a reason. 663 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 4: Maybe later on in the season, right but right now, 664 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 4: I don't think anybody's that invested into any of these 665 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 4: characters yet. Like, I don't think anybody is causing that 666 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 4: much controversy from their literal right. 667 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 2: Nobody's gonna make a real headline likes even as we 668 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 2: we are Bachelor podcasters, of course we're going to be 669 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,320 Speaker 2: shocked as alicia elimination. But I don't think US Weekly 670 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,839 Speaker 2: is covering it tomorrow, you know, yeah, I. 671 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,320 Speaker 4: Mean maybe they're trying to create the note next grocery 672 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 4: Store Joe, where you know, somebody's eliminating, people freak out 673 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 4: and it gets like great headlines and then they go 674 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 4: on to do the thing. But it's we're not very yeah, 675 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,320 Speaker 4: we don't know that yet, Like it's impossible. That happened 676 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 4: almost organically because people freaked out there wasn't a show 677 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 4: cultivating that. 678 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, they probably didn't even know that was gonna happen 679 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:53,359 Speaker 2: with Joe. 680 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 5: Joel Mobla is an anomaly, he. 681 00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 4: Is, but it's it is just confus me and I 682 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 4: would love to know even more from him, Like they 683 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 4: didn't do a lot of in the moments with him 684 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 4: or interviews with him, or maybe they would have asked him, 685 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 4: what do you think about Alicia, Like this is gonna 686 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 4: be a little bit shocking, what do you think about Rebecca? 687 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,760 Speaker 4: And he could explain, Hey, it just feels like we're off, 688 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 4: Like it feels like every time we sit down and 689 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 4: have a conversation, we're not on the same page. 690 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 3: Or I'm just not into it as much. 691 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 4: I was hoping or thought I would be after week one, 692 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 4: and then it would give us that kind of that 693 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 4: would bridge the gap between us just being completely confused 694 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 4: and being in the know, and they're not giving us 695 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,840 Speaker 4: enough yet for us to understand why he's making the 696 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 4: decisions he's making. 697 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 3: Now, is it that important? 698 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 4: No, so early, but if this continues throughout this season 699 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 4: where we're just always confused and we feel like we 700 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 4: haven't really watched the season even though we have. Then 701 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 4: it becomes a problem because people just check out. Why 702 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,399 Speaker 4: would they watch if they're not going to get any 703 00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,879 Speaker 4: like they're not invested into it. 704 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 5: I don't know, but that's how I felt leaving this episode. 705 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 2: This episode made me think if I wasn't on the 706 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 2: show and I didn't have this podcast, I want to 707 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 2: be watching this show anymore. 708 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 3: Like you would stop this season. 709 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I would be watching these two episodes, especially 710 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 2: this episode, and been like, Eh, I think I'm going 711 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 2: to skip this one. 712 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:19,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. 713 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,839 Speaker 4: I could see where you would think that, because one, 714 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 4: is there anything gripping leading us into next week? There's 715 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 4: not yet, And that's another. I mean it's something I want. 716 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 4: I want to be gripped to where I'm like, I 717 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 4: cannot wait to see what happens next week, and they 718 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 4: have the cliffhangers and they have the storylines to do that. Also, 719 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 4: we could pick out some women that we think he's into, right, 720 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 4: Alex would definitely be above everybody right now. However, we 721 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 4: don't really have much relationship build. 722 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 5: Up yet, which is fine, and we are in episode two. 723 00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 3: We always say it takes like four weeks. 724 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 5: So maybe it's just us being like an episode two. Yeah, 725 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 5: but that's what I mean. You know how like with shows, 726 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 5: a lot of the times. 727 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 2: You have got to give it three your episodes. I 728 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 2: do think that applies to the Bachelor. But when the 729 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 2: episodes are two hours long, that's a lot of time, 730 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 2: not a cap again, that's like, honestly, that's like watching 731 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 2: an HBO show. 732 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 5: And giving it six episodes, yeah. 733 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,880 Speaker 2: Saying oh no, you just got to wait six episodes, 734 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:27,359 Speaker 2: and I'm like, I'm not gonna do that. 735 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 3: I don't get I don't have that time in me. Yeah. 736 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 4: We will be watching here, though, and we are excited 737 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 4: to see things progress forward. I'm not out on this 738 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:41,319 Speaker 4: show yet this season. However, I am concerned that we 739 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:46,279 Speaker 4: aren't going to get much from this season for many 740 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,759 Speaker 4: weeks because so far we're off to a what I 741 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,440 Speaker 4: would say of an odd start. 742 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,799 Speaker 5: Yeah, and I would love to say that we had 743 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 5: we had so much. 744 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 2: Momentum last year, like Gary season did so well, and 745 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:03,320 Speaker 2: then Joey season did so well, and then with Gens, 746 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 2: I feel like like a lot of people fell off 747 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:06,880 Speaker 2: again and I'm just like, oh, we're in, Like the 748 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 2: wheels are falling off territory again, which sucks. 749 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,800 Speaker 5: Sucks because we were we had so much potential. 750 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 4: I'm still holding out hope. I believe in the producers 751 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 4: of the show. I believe that they want a good story. 752 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,799 Speaker 4: I believe they want to make a good show, and 753 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 4: so my hope is that that will start next week 754 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 4: and we'll be here breaking down the next episode of 755 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 4: the Arm of the Bachelor on the Almost Famous Podcast 756 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 4: until next time. 757 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 3: I've Been Ben, I've Been Ashley. 758 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:39,800 Speaker 5: I Love you guys. 759 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 1: Follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast on 760 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.