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Speaker 3: of the games and moments from last night in the NBA.

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Speaker 3: But first, guys, we're playing a little Is this news.

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Speaker 3: I've rounded up some headlines and I'm gonna pitch them

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Speaker 3: or not they're actually newsworthy. Guys. First one, Milwaukee Journal

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Speaker 3: Sentinel Chris Middleton is expected to miss three to four

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Speaker 3: weeks with a thigh bruise suffered Sunday. Is this news.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna call it good news. I know it sounds stupid.

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Speaker 2: Good news.

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Speaker 4: They need Chris Middleton obviously. He is their number two score.

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Speaker 4: They need him, but they play in the Eastern Conference.

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Speaker 4: And it's good news in that I'm always harping about

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Speaker 1: Now, who is gonna replace him in the originally in

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Speaker 1: Botenholz is just going to say one four on five

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Speaker 6: That Middleton's out.

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Speaker 3: So, yeah, he should miss. You know, the timeline says

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Speaker 5: But he's so.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Middleton is one of those strange players. To me,

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Speaker 3: average player. The guy can score and he's important, I

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Speaker 3: They shoot a ton of threes, jack a ton of

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Speaker 3: Maybe some of those shots go to the other guys.

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Speaker 3: Be it you know your Brooks and your bled Stones

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Lean nailed the things that Middleton gives to the Bucks.

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Speaker 5: They're going to have to get now from three or

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Speaker 5: four different guys, because, like you're saying, Middleton gives them

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Speaker 5: the spacing. He's also a guy when a play breaks

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Speaker 5: a shot up. He's got some size, he's got some athleticism,

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Speaker 5: he can hit the glass. I'm I'm I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I don't ever know how I feel about Chris Middleton.

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Speaker 5: I honestly feel Chris Middleton about him. He's a good player.

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Speaker 5: He'll make an All Star team, he'll probably make two

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Speaker 5: or three in his career, and then he's also not

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Speaker 5: a super important guy throughout the entire league. That being said,

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Speaker 5: I think you want him out there. It's a good

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Speaker 5: schedule for the Bucks. They got the Balls twice in

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Speaker 5: the next week, They got the Hawks twice in the

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Speaker 5: next ten games, they play the Knicks, they play the Caves.

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Speaker 5: If you're gonna be missing your second best player, those

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Speaker 5: being said, if the Sixers are able to go on

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Speaker 5: a little bit of a run here, maybe it matters

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Speaker 5: for seeding come playoff time, and maybe the Sixers are

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Speaker 3: In We also just don't see the Milwaukee Bucks without

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Speaker 3: Middleton a lot. This guy's been fairly reliable. I think

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Speaker 3: he had that torn hamstring in twenty sixteen. Other than that,

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Speaker 3: he plays like seventy seven flame right, yeah, yeah, that

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Speaker 3: he appears in a lot of games, like something like

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Speaker 3: seventy seven plus games in five of the six seasons

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Speaker 3: prior to this. So it's just going to be a

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Speaker 3: look from here the Bucks that you just were not

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Speaker 3: used to with him not playing him just being that

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Speaker 3: he is the classic, Like, you're right, he'll have monster games.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes he has quiet games, but he's in the end,

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Speaker 3: he's like you look at the box where you're like, well,

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Speaker 3: Middleton gave you twenty points. You know, he hit he

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Speaker 3: hit three or four threes. You know, gave you some

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Speaker 3: on a on a team to have a like like

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Speaker 3: a almost like a super role player. A look at him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you don't think he's an elite player,

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Speaker 1: but he's certainly not a you know, scrub. But no,

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Speaker 1: I think his contributions just get overlooked as well because

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Speaker 1: he's not all that sexy. He's just very reliable and

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Speaker 1: he's very consistent.

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Speaker 6: So they will miss him.

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Speaker 1: He of course did play in the summer as well,

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Speaker 1: so having having a little rest here maybe that's a

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Speaker 1: that's af a little bit. Yeah, you know, I have

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Speaker 1: clash of knees didn't look all that serious, but obviously

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Speaker 1: it was. So he'll take some time off and maybe,

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Speaker 1: you know, that's the thing. Maybe if he's going to

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Speaker 1: Bucks you know, are okay with it.

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Speaker 5: Eric Bledsoe has been balling a little bit to start

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Speaker 5: the season. The guy has been good in the regular

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Speaker 5: a little bit more responsibility for Bledsoe will be all

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Speaker 5: right and then hopefully Middleton is healthy for the playoffs,

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Speaker 5: because that's when you're a little bit more worried about

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Speaker 5: Eric Bledsoe all right well.

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Speaker 3: In other injury news, this headline from Dime Sports Deer

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Speaker 3: and Fox will miss at least three to four weeks

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Speaker 3: after spraining his ankle in practice. Is this news.

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Speaker 5: Bad news? This is bad news for the Kings. Uh,

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Speaker 5: tuck them in, they're done. Good night thirteen or their

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Speaker 5: next twenty are on the road.

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Speaker 5: that's how I'm talking in dearon Fox and Yeah, exactly right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess Corey Joseph comes into the starting lineup.

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Speaker 2: Now, I looked up.

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Speaker 3: His numbers out of curiosity, like when he starts, He's

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Speaker 3: It had just started to turn around a little bit.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, teammates stepped on his foot, not the other way around.

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Speaker 2: Let's see the tapes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this it's uh, this is a bummer of a

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Speaker 4: The King season. But this is why they got their

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Speaker 4: Fox out there. They're three and six. I agree. This

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Speaker 4: But now, yeah, what kind of story can they write

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Corey is likely going to start Yogi Farrell off

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Speaker 3: this is about last night s I writing Porzingis struggles

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Speaker 3: oh six. Is this news either struggling or the Kemba

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Speaker 1: Well you tell them me, Well, the Celtics are the

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Speaker 3: Master chieve in the Beetown Boy's coming for yours.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing. When I'm looking at this.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I can't not show love to the Celtics

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Speaker 1: because they've been they've been pretty good. But Pauzingis that

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Speaker 6: He It's funny.

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Speaker 3: Because he has won for eleven and twenty minutes. He

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he had a good game against the Knicks.

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Speaker 6: He could just stand there and shoot it over him.

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Speaker 4: Well yeah, not just because he's a big, toll wake guy,

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Speaker 4: But he looked like Dirk early in his career when

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Speaker 3: And Marcus Smart amazing incredible love challenge Lake Lowry that

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Speaker 3: Stop to stop working on your biceps, start working on

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Speaker 5: Just kidding. He needs a little more booty in those

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was It was wild to watch one for eleven.

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Speaker 3: I mean, and we can get to Jason Tatum. Yea,

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Speaker 3: it was even worse one of eighteen. But according to

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's as post ups.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's one of the worst.

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Speaker 1: otherwise it looked last night like don't you if they

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Speaker 6: But again, it's early.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, he's been playing five Yeah, fine, Yeah, hasn't

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Speaker 4: been bad. It's averaging eighteen points. It's three point percentages

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Speaker 3: I liked that he did what he said after the game.

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Speaker 1: I'm just like, but this team just looks loose than

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Speaker 3: We're gonna beat you to death with green hats, pile

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Speaker 5: But it feels like groundhog Day to be honest, this

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Speaker 6: For sure.

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Speaker 1: But they've been very, very good, so it's definitely a

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Speaker 3: I loved Tommy Heinsen going crazy on that kemba step

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Speaker 5: Get the camera.

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Speaker 2: Exact.

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Speaker 4: Thomas thriving two years ago. Doesn't have to do absolutely everything,

436
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Speaker 4: but when you get the ball, he just shoots any scores.

437
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Speaker 4: And you know, this system is not built for a

438
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Speaker 4: really like a superstar like Kyrie. And this is everybody

439
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Speaker 4: is arriving right now.

440
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Speaker 3: Everybody eats right now on the Celtics. Yeah, looking looking solid.

441
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Speaker 3: Just bite again the Tatum one of eighteen game All right,

442
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Speaker 3: another headline from last night, throwing this one at you

443
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Speaker 3: specifically tested. I know you're a big m live Yeah subscription, Yeah,

444
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Speaker 3: Pistons fall to te Wolves despite return of play Griffin

445
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Speaker 3: and Derrick Rose. Is this news?

446
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Speaker 4: Yes, I was the only one who wanted to talk

447
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Speaker 4: about this because I do believe there's going to be

448
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Speaker 4: a big shake up in Detroit. Okay, I got to

449
00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:36,520
Speaker 4: read a lot into one game. But Andre Drummond was

450
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Speaker 4: being hailed as potentially the best center in the league. Yeah,

451
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Speaker 4: you heard me. There's talk about him being a monster,

452
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Speaker 4: you know, being the twenty and twenty guy.

453
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Speaker 5: You can't deny it. You can't deny it. We've heard

454
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Speaker 5: about the Bean Town boys. You got to watch out

455
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Speaker 5: for the Detroit dudes because I said Andre Drummond didn't

456
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Speaker 5: get a lot better, and they are like, excuse me, sir,

457
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Speaker 5: he got a lot better. Our defense is good when

458
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Speaker 5: he's on the floor, he rebounds a lot. All of

459
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Speaker 5: these things are true. Watch out for Detroit dudes.

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Speaker 4: I don't really think he got a lot better either,

461
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Speaker 4: But but the ball is, the ball was going through

462
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Speaker 4: him a lot. He was playmaking a lot and now

463
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Speaker 4: all of a sudden, Blake Griffin comes back to the lineup.

464
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Speaker 4: Derek Rose also comes back into the lineup. That changes

465
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Speaker 4: big time. So he was he had a lot of

466
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Speaker 4: slump shoulders yesterday. And you know, it's really stupid to

467
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Speaker 4: read into body language, but I think if there's one

468
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Speaker 4: guy who really wears his heart on his sleeve, it's

469
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Speaker 4: Andre Drummond and TBD. I think as they go along here,

470
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Speaker 4: they're four and seven. If they are, you know, along

471
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Speaker 4: those same lines, maybe five hundred at the maximum. Around

472
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Speaker 4: the trade deadline, what do you do with this team?

473
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Speaker 4: Are you going to go forward with a Blake and

474
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Speaker 4: Andre Drummond front court? Because Andre Drummond is a free

475
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Speaker 4: agent this offseason. I think you have to make a

476
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Speaker 4: decision come February. And so this is it's a strange,

477
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Speaker 4: strange scenario for Andre Drummond getting the most love in

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Speaker 4: his NBA career these first few months in terms of

479
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Speaker 4: the media coverage talking about him and him being one

480
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Speaker 4: of the better centers in the league, and now it's

481
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Speaker 4: going to be a heck of a lot different with

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Speaker 4: Blake Griffin in there.

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Speaker 1: I think he said just the day or two ago,

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Speaker 1: Andre Drummond, I want to spend my entire career here

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Speaker 1: in Detroit. So I wonder if he is sort of

486
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Speaker 1: thinking maybe they're going to look to move me here.

487
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Speaker 1: You know he wants to play the good guy. He

488
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Speaker 1: doesn't want to say I want out, I want to

489
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Speaker 1: move on. Maybe he's reading the riding on the wall

490
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Speaker 1: so he if he gets traded, he looks like the

491
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Speaker 1: good guy and not the sort of guys like I

492
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Speaker 1: need to go for somewhere else.

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Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: Sort of possibly, I didn't think I know what you're

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Speaker 3: saying with the wolves, though. I have two things i'd

496
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Speaker 3: like to sell you guys. First, I have some subway

497
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Speaker 3: sandwich coupons here that maybe you guys would be interested,

498
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Speaker 3: specifically talking to Lee and Trey. Here's I know, I

499
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Speaker 3: know that. For the second thing, I have some beachfront

500
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Speaker 3: property that i'd like to see if you're interested in

501
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Speaker 3: Wiggans Island.

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Speaker 5: What did the coupons have to do with that?

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Speaker 3: Well, I just say saw them there. Maybe it comes

504
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Speaker 3: with the property. You guys have a subway then, yeah,

505
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Speaker 3: we opened a subway franchise on the island of Wiggans Island.

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Speaker 3: Who's ball in right now and people are flocking to

507
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Speaker 3: this island. Maybe there's a fire right now.

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Speaker 5: He is killing it right now. Wiggins Island to me

509
00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,960
Speaker 5: is a little bit like Cuba. I don't want to

510
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Speaker 5: live there, but now that you can visit, I would visit.

511
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Speaker 5: I would go see. He's been good to start the season.

512
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Speaker 5: It looks like him in Towns have kind of found

513
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Speaker 5: the perfect balance of Towns is the main guy. He's

514
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Speaker 5: going to kill you a little bit from the outside.

515
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Speaker 5: He's in like James Harden territory for shooting right now,

516
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Speaker 5: so he's killing you outside. Wiggins is so much more

517
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Speaker 5: focused on getting into the lane and not just pulling

518
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Speaker 5: up for the twos. You can see the benefit of

519
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Speaker 5: having a coach in Ryan Saunders, who is a modern

520
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Speaker 5: coach who has invested in Wiggins in Towns both being good.

521
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Speaker 5: You know, when Flip Saunders was the coach, he was

522
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Speaker 5: a great coach, but he's an old school guy who

523
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Speaker 5: would encourage a twenty footer. So Wiggins is like twenty footers,

524
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Speaker 5: Thank you very much, sir. Then Tom Thibodeaux came around.

525
00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,920
Speaker 5: It was the Jimmy Butler show. Now we finally got

526
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Speaker 5: a coach, a young coach who is a modern coach,

527
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Speaker 5: who's putting these guys in the right position. And Wiggins

528
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Speaker 5: has been great.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Wolves are six and four now, sorry.

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Speaker 6: Twenty nine assists in his last six guys just stagger.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not like people are excited about like the

532
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Speaker 3: twenty five plus points came in the last little bit.

533
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Speaker 3: But you're right, it's that stat that's the eye opening.

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Speaker 6: That is unbelievable him.

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Speaker 1: But what I've noticed, he's actually just being way more

536
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Speaker 1: aggressive and way more engaged. He's not if he's not

537
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Speaker 1: like previously, if he's not being involved in the offense,

538
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Speaker 1: he would just stand there. Now he's like moving his body.

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Speaker 1: He's like, oh, maybe if I get into the lane,

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Speaker 1: I won't get the shot, but I can pass it

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Speaker 1: off to somebody else. And that that's what's really stood

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Speaker 1: out for me. It's like, oh, wow, there are other

543
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Speaker 1: things you can do on offense other than scoring the ball.

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Speaker 1: And then when he is out in transition and and

545
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Speaker 1: you know, he can use that speed to get past defenders.

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Speaker 6: He's getting a lot of easy looks around the basket.

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Speaker 3: So it's great.

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Speaker 6: Can he sustain it? I'm skeptic.

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Speaker 3: We've seen these little week or two flashes from Wiggins

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Speaker 3: before this is I mean, we haven't seen it in

551
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Speaker 3: a while. We definitely didn't see Hi much last year,

552
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Speaker 3: but years prior you're right. We had seen a couple

553
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Speaker 3: of these weeks where that he would string together where

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Speaker 3: he couldn't miss from three and was yeah, and was

555
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Speaker 3: maybe facilitating a little bit more and getting in the lane.

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Speaker 3: Can he sustain it? Yeah, because it's a you know,

557
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Speaker 3: there's something there when Town is playing the way he

558
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Speaker 3: is and you compare him with Wiggins, that's a pretty

559
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Speaker 3: explosive one too offensively, and then you guys got like

560
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Speaker 3: Covington defensively to help on that end, and other guys

561
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Speaker 3: like that, I mean, Josh Cold, that's good. There's something there.

562
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Speaker 3: So yeah, so they to see the Wolves putting it

563
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Speaker 3: together a little bit here early in the season. At

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Speaker 3: six and four, next headline Bleacher Report, NBA sends memo

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Speaker 3: declaring load management is not a description for injury? Is

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Speaker 3: this news continues to be?

567
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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 2: Well, that's it?

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Speaker 1: It does it just it's it's such a black eye

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Speaker 1: on the league right now because people are saying load

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Speaker 1: management when it's rest. And this is what we talked

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Speaker 1: about yesterday with the guy from the Memphis Grizzlies.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, you can't say his name, John Moran. Right, Yeah,

574
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Speaker 4: got the memo, but.

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Speaker 6: That that that's you know.

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Speaker 1: That's basically where it's sort of starting from his people

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Speaker 1: just saying, well, we're just we're just resting guys now.

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Speaker 1: So the NBA they I don't know how they really

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Speaker 1: fix this though, unless they just say just don't say

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Speaker 1: load yes, easy, but then we are going to buy

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Speaker 1: it when Kawhi Leonard, who last season sat out for

582
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Speaker 1: load management, is sitting at back to backs again this

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Speaker 1: season or you know, one day of the back to

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Speaker 1: backs because he's likely.

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Speaker 3: Going to do it again, and uh right, Well do

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Speaker 3: we get angrier over the idea that they're lying to

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Speaker 3: us if they put, oh, it's an injured knee and

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Speaker 3: we everyone knows it's like not really, it's just rest

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Speaker 3: or are we angrier with? Well, why are you resting?

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Speaker 5: That's a tsue question?

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Speaker 3: Paid to play eighty two games like Michael Jordan's.

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Speaker 5: That's exactly right. Ethan Schurwitztrass had a great article up

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Speaker 5: on the Athletic. He can subscribe if you want at

594
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Speaker 5: the Athletic dot com slash no donks you should. He

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Speaker 5: mentioned that literally giving it a name, giving rest, calling

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Speaker 5: it load management is what gives people a chance to

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Speaker 5: talk about it. And now we're getting memos from the

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Speaker 5: league specifically about the phrase. I think it's because load

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Speaker 5: management to me, sounds proactive. You're like, we are going

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Speaker 5: to rest this guy so he doesn't get tired. However,

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Speaker 5: if you call it resting, it means the guy's already tired,

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Speaker 5: right right, And that, to me perhaps is the problem

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Speaker 5: because people are like, oh, he's already tired, Cool, he's resting,

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Speaker 5: rather than you're not even tired yet and you're resting.

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Speaker 5: That doesn't make sense. I don't know. It's like Li

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Speaker 5: says j Morant getting the game. I don't know. Things

607
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Speaker 5: are never going to go back to the way they were.

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Speaker 5: People are not going to be playing forty minutes a

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Speaker 5: night for eighty two games. So in that Ethan Strauss article,

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Speaker 5: I kind of agree with the person who says, let's

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Speaker 5: act like this isn't a big deal.

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Speaker 3: People rest right, right, right right. The memo said, quote

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Speaker 3: load management is not an injury or an appropriate description

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Speaker 3: of an injury under the injury reporting procedures. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: so like put any put put What the reason you're

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Speaker 3: resting is? Is it because of your legs? Is it

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Speaker 3: because you're just got it? Your eyelids are heavy? Injured eyelids. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: get a little more creative. Just don't put load management, don't.

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Speaker 4: Put don't put rest, don't put rest because that's the problem.

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Speaker 4: Because yeah, even if it does say rest, like John Morant,

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Speaker 4: they're all over it, right, like that's that's a problem.

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Speaker 4: Like I mean, the the casual viewer was yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: but he's resting after days off and yeah, and just

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Speaker 4: put it put an injury. See, they're the weird.

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Speaker 3: Should they put for they should literally just put stupid

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Speaker 3: scheduling like.

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Speaker 4: Well they did. They did put load management, slash knee. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's just put knee. You don't need a slash, you

629
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Speaker 4: don't need two reasons. Just lose it.

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Speaker 5: And what about the guys then that rest without an injury.

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Speaker 4: Well, of course that's what I mean. Kawi could be playing.

632
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Speaker 4: Other guys are doing it. You're totally right. Yeah, yeah,

633
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Speaker 4: well after you're left to lie, I mean they're resting.

634
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Speaker 4: Are they resting for a reason other than.

635
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Speaker 5: This is the thing. It's basically saying, be good about

636
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Speaker 5: lying or be honest. I don't know which it is.

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Speaker 5: Be honest about lying, Yeah, sure, it's important to be

638
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Speaker 5: good at lying if you're gonna lie.

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Speaker 3: Stick to it.

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Speaker 5: You can't have Doc Rivers saying one thing and everybody

641
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Speaker 5: else saying the other thing. I guess, get your stories.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. The other part of the memo that I found confusing,

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Speaker 4: Jeff still Gey wrote, load management or a similar phrase

644
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Speaker 4: such as return from an injury is a permissible description

645
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Speaker 4: only in connection with a healthy player who misses a

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Speaker 4: game due to rest. That is permissible under the resting policy.

647
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Speaker 4: What is the resting policy? There's a resting policy. That's dumb.

648
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Speaker 4: What is a resting policy? So you can rest when

649
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Speaker 4: you want? What is there? Like a, Hey, it's three

650
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 4: and four games? Resting is cool?

651
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 3: Right?

652
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 4: John Morandon? Rest?

653
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 3: Yeah?

654
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:27,199
Speaker 4: Is it?

655
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,719
Speaker 3: You're over thirty three? It's cool you No, you're right.

656
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 5: It's no different than when there were flopping warnings. Remember

657
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 5: those still exist. Nobody cares about HI anymore. Nobody ever

658
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 5: gets called for one anymore. The league is just saying

659
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 5: things because everybody's talking about load and management. So they

660
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 5: have to try and slap some people on the wrist.

661
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 5: Seems like they're doing something, but they're not. The thing

662
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 5: to do would be getting rid of back to backs.

663
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, shorting the season, getting rid of back to backs,

664
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Speaker 3: there is something drastic that is uh. I mean maybe

665
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 3: the back to backs. If they lengthen the season, they

666
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 3: can get rid of them. But we all we don't

667
00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 3: need to get into the whole. Are they going to

668
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 3: go down to six, eight or sixty six games? It's

669
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,640
Speaker 3: not happening anytime soon. Let's put it that way.

670
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,439
Speaker 4: But there are it is on the table apparently that

671
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 4: they are discussing shortening the season, right and find.

672
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 3: A couple of tournaments.

673
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, they probably find a way to make money. It's

674
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 4: it's it's about the Greenbacks and figuring out, hey, maybe

675
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,199
Speaker 4: we're getting money from League passer, we're getting money from X,

676
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 4: or we're getting money over the top all this.

677
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 1: Money, let's play a few extra games. That's I mean,

678
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,360
Speaker 1: that's the big problem. I just can't see the owners saying, oh, yeah,

679
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: that's right, maybe cut four or five games from ow

680
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 1: our home gate revenue, because that's what it comes down to.

681
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 3: That that's huge proble. What's your what's your favorite term?

682
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 3: You're saying green Backs just got anything? What's your favorite

683
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 3: term for money?

684
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 5: Bones? The bones?

685
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 3: I like, I like Finn Dugs. That's a classic.

686
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 4: I mean Lee brought up Bucks the other day when

687
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 4: he was we're doing I throw back Thursday. Yeah, trying

688
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 4: to open a pack cards, were trying to guess a

689
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 4: Milwaukee Buck. Hey, you just dropped one. They're also out

690
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 4: in the wild just trying to get to the Milwaukee Bucks.

691
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 4: I'm a big Benjamin's guy. That's all about m still bangs.

692
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 4: Still a good job.

693
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, just a box or I mean in England

694
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 6: it's quid, you know.

695
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a fun word. It is quick.

696
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 6: How much is that ten quid?

697
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fun, that's nice.

698
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 4: I think we should write our own policy as to

699
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 4: how to how to get people to lie properly. And

700
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 4: as soon as people start lying properly, like Trey said,

701
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 4: we won't be talking about it anymore. It's like the

702
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 4: dress coat scenario. It was a big deal. You got

703
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 4: to wear a blazer on the bench until it wasn't.

704
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 4: Now brandon Ingram is wearing a dow rag in warm ups.

705
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 4: Everybody's wearing not everybody's wearing dow rags, and one of us,

706
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 4: but lots of guys are. Lebron's wearing dow rags in

707
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 4: practice is you know, it's fine, it's fine until it's not.

708
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 4: So we just got to get people to say, hey,

709
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 4: Mabor guy brings a blanket on the bench, that's cool.

710
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 3: If it lies down like Chris Caman, he's super resting. Yeah.

711
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 3: I thought you were gonna say, we as a group

712
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 3: here as no dunks needs need to write our own

713
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 3: resting procedure so so we can miss shows, but we

714
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 3: have to go through the protocol.

715
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 5: And well, actually, I'm gonna load manage tonight. I was

716
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 5: looking at the schedule. I was like, not really into

717
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 5: the schedule tonight. I'm gonna watch Bowls Versus next and

718
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 5: then I'm gonna go to bed. I'm managing that load

719
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 5: up and been up too late watching the Raptors play

720
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 5: on the West Side.

721
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 3: Yeah you hey, I didn't see you tweeting late last

722
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 3: out of bed.

723
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Speaker 1: I was the first half last night ten thirty tip off.

724
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 1: Though it was gonna be tough because again Sunday and

725
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 1: a Monday. Oh man, if you're up watching those West

726
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 1: Coast games.

727
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 3: Hell, I can hear the people right now that are

728
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 3: tweeting in stop your whining and move to move the

729
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 3: show to Hawaii. They're they're writing in they say it's

730
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 3: perfect for our for our schedule, So what you just

731
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 3: catch up in the morning, you know, news and that's right.

732
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 3: End games. Yeah, look, your load management long season, man,

733
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 3: for you got to treat your body right.

734
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 5: Sleep is very important. Lebron James's trainer told me. Lebron

735
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 5: James sleeps, you should sleep. Agree.

736
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 3: You need to get rid of this cough you've had

737
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 3: for like five or six weeks too. It always hits you.

738
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 5: Then I need to get rid of my children because

739
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 5: every time it feels like it's gone, they just bring

740
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 5: everyone back in right in those nostrils.

741
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right. Our final headline here, guys. Pro Basketball

742
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 3: Talk reports Nicks trying to hire Raptors president massi Ugieri

743
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 3: could fire coach David Fizdale. This this coming from a

744
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 3: Francisola article with The Athletic, This idea that the Knicks

745
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 3: might be trying to go for messi Usuri for maybe

746
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 3: like the third time. Here is this news WI.

747
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 4: What do you got You got any insight info?

748
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: No, no, no inside info other than no, that's not

749
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: gonna happen. Not to dispute Frank's reporting, of course, because

750
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: I'm sure the Knicks would love Yeah, I have.

751
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 3: You're saying, you're saying the idea of Ujeri, who's under

752
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 3: contract with the rapt till twenty twenty one. I believe

753
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 3: you think they would do anything to keep them. You

754
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 3: don't think Dolan and the Knicks could, uh, you know, just.

755
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: I can't imagine that brings truck even if they did

756
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: the Wizard's Trade. I can't even imagine if they did that,

757
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: you jury would want to go to that situation. I

758
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: think it's I don't think it's a welcoming I don't

759
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: know it's fun.

760
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 6: Sure, and and the way that.

761
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 5: You know, you may get a huge paycheck and then

762
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 5: get fired a couple of seasons and and you're still

763
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 5: getting the huge paycheck.

764
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: But but again, I don't think at this level, you

765
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: know that that money is going to make a huge difference.

766
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: What messiahs probably one three or four million a year

767
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: from the Raptors, maybe gets ten million from the Knicks. Sure, great,

768
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: but at that point it's like, does it really make

769
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: that much of a difference when you know you're going

770
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: to go there and it's just going to be such

771
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: a stressful, awful situation if.

772
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 3: The work environment is toxic. Yeah, but if Messiah jury believes, hey,

773
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 3: I could do this, it is my next goal in look,

774
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 3: brought the Toronto Raptors a championship team. Yeah, well let

775
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 3: me go get one for the note.

776
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 6: But he was given the freedom and the flexibility to

777
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 6: work there.

778
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 1: And we know from the situation with David Griffin a

779
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: couple of years ago when the Knicks apparently were very

780
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: interested and they wouldn't let him have a final sort

781
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 1: of authority on basketball move So that's the thing.

782
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 3: Has Dolan sort of, in his defense, I can't believe

783
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 3: I'm saying that has he sort of not at times

784
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 3: at least allowed the guys that he's hired to have

785
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 3: free reign well with Phil, try to stayed out of

786
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 3: his own way, but not that maybe the guys he's

787
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 3: hired hasn't done a good job.

788
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 6: With Phil Jackson.

789
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: Apparently that was the case that he was like, Phil,

790
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: you do everything, and Phil was very bad at and

791
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: that ended in disaster as well. I just it just

792
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: doesn't seem to me that that's the sort of challenge

793
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: that Masai would want to bring on to himself, knowing

794
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 1: that it's not just trying to rebuild the team. There's

795
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: so much more internal care. Because I think in that

796
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: same article it said they want Eujiri and then Yannis.

797
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: It's like, all right, just maybe go for one first.

798
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,719
Speaker 1: Let's not you know, I get the biggest general manager,

799
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: you know, free agent perhaps, and then the biggest free

800
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 1: agent player. Like the Knicks don't have a history of

801
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 1: signing either.

802
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 3: And I think I heard Dan Devine say this on

803
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 3: The Ringer Podcast this week. The Knicks just can't stay

804
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 3: out of their own damn way, because what Dan was

805
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 3: saying is like the next actually had something to sort

806
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 3: of sell to their fans this year. If they had

807
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 3: just like pretended like these fake you know, expectations that

808
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 3: they were gonna be Mills saying that they're gonna be

809
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 3: highly competitive in the Eastern Conference like they had, you

810
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 3: know RJ. Barrett, like a high draft pick, some of

811
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 3: their young guys, Mitchell Robinson looking good, you know, Franklin

812
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 3: Lakeini even turning it around a little bit. You know,

813
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 3: Kevin Knox. Okay, if you still believe in him, but

814
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 3: at least you could be selling the idea to obviously

815
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 3: a rabid basketball fan base. Hey there's a youth movement here.

816
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 3: Don't worry, We're gonna win only twenty games again. But

817
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 3: you look at this look at the steps these guys

818
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 3: are developing. Instead they like nope, they this happens where

819
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 3: it's like suddenly an impromptu press conference and it's like, oh,

820
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 3: we're you know, we're disappointing right now, Well are you really?

821
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 3: I mean no, you're.

822
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 5: Not exactly the exactly right. Everybody thought that they were

823
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 5: gonna be bad this season, and they have came out

824
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 5: and been bad. I guess the problem is that they've

825
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 5: been so bad, particularly in front of their fans, that

826
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 5: the next kind of just panicked and said, yeah, something,

827
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 5: they had say something. You can trast them with the

828
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 5: Brooklyn Nets, who were a joke three seasons ago for

829
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 5: losing the Paul Pierce Kevin Garnett trade. But basically they

830
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 5: just use three seasons to act like a normal team,

831
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,399
Speaker 5: put things in place, and then they got two huge

832
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 5: free agents that the Knicks. We're going at. You are

833
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 5: in the same city. You could have done the exact

834
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 5: same thing. Just play it cool, have a plan, but

835
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 5: stick to the plan. Your plan doesn't have to be

836
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 5: we're getting the best of everything right away, So to

837
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 5: be honest, that's a good plan.

838
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 3: Survivor reference. They don't know. The Knicks do not know

839
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,720
Speaker 3: when to just lay low. They got to make everything

840
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 3: a bigger deal than it is or bring attention upon

841
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,240
Speaker 3: them such a temper, boys exact, and that's the worst

842
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,760
Speaker 3: thing you can do in Survivor, the game of Survivor, guys,

843
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 3: sometimes you just gotta want it. You just gotta lay low,

844
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 3: just chill, get to the merge, you know, relax. You

845
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 3: don't gotta be making moves that brings attention to you.

846
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:52,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, but this is a problem.

847
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,879
Speaker 1: Like every year it's like, Okay, come on, finally make

848
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: a move, do something, make us good again.

849
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:56,879
Speaker 3: Yeah.

850
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 6: Yeah.

851
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 3: Honestly, Steve Mills, by the way, would be awesome on

852
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 3: Survivor because that's all this guy does, is Survivor's He

853
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 3: just squirms his way out of everything. He's His record

854
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 3: since he's been there is one sixty five and three

855
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:14,760
Speaker 3: thirty seven since him in play, yes, like just around

856
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 3: the team, forty eight since he took over for Phil Jackson.

857
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's awful. It's awful. He's hired and fired all

858
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 6: the coaches, so or maybe he hasn't.

859
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 1: I guess, I guess Phil Jackson hired he hired Fish,

860
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 1: didn't he who hired Horn?

861
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:28,839
Speaker 5: To say?

862
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 6: Oh that was Phil too.

863
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 3: Phil was bad.

864
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 1: But listens, but Steve Mills like that, that's the thing,

865
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,359
Speaker 1: and people talking about him coming out and saying all

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's what I mean, guys. And that guy

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Speaker 3: sure Fizdale take him? Yeah, got him. I don't care

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Speaker 3: he would go back and pick one of those other teams.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. He. Fitzdale had a ton of hype as an

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Speaker 5: assistant coach with Miami because he was such a player

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Speaker 5: just had two bad situations back to back between the

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Speaker 5: Grizzlies and the Knicks hopefully. I don't know. I mean,

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Speaker 5: I don't know. Is he a good coach? Who knows? Honestly,

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Speaker 5: be nice to see him get a shot with a

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Speaker 5: But I don't know. I would love to go back

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Speaker 5: and just read all those Knicks tweets, all those Knicks

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Speaker 5: player that they've drafted in thirty years. They were celebrating

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's how quickly things change, isn't it like that?

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's he was the right draft choice at

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Speaker 6: He was. Things were going in the right direction.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then before you know it, he's gone and

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Speaker 1: the players they got in return to Smith and who

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Speaker 3: it out today, Guys Tray Top five, Top.

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Speaker 5: Five, Top five, Top five, Top by, top five top five.

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Speaker 5: Last week, SB Nation unearthed the nineteen ninety two Japanese

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Speaker 5: video game A Super Dunk Shot. It's a, like I said,

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Speaker 5: the Japanese version of the video game NCAA Basketball, but

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Speaker 5: it is not licensed. It's also obviously not an NBA game,

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Speaker 5: right because you know it's supposed to be the college

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Speaker 5: version of them. Nonetheless, they're they, so they had to

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Speaker 5: change the names. So before I give you my top five,

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna hit you with the t Top five changed

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Speaker 5: names from Super Dunk Shot according to SB Nation. Number

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Speaker 5: five Los Angeles Lasers, Yeah sure, just one letter change,

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Speaker 5: a Laker becomes a laser. Number four Houston Pockets, very good.

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Speaker 5: Number three Boston Celeries.

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Speaker 3: That's up there. That's that's I love Celery too.

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Speaker 5: This guy loves the crunch. Number two would have been

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Speaker 5: my number one the Phoenix Suns s o NS, not

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Speaker 5: s u NS. But number one for ESB Nation was

945
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Speaker 5: the Milwaukee Backs, not the Bucks, the Backs, and that

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Speaker 5: is what inspired the greenest of backs. That is what

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Speaker 5: inspires this top five. These are your top five NBA

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Speaker 5: teams if they were body parts, just like a back.

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Speaker 5: At number five, I'm then to group these three teams together,

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Speaker 5: so you're really getting a top seven. Here. Got a

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Speaker 5: group these three together, you'll understand why at number five

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Speaker 5: the New York Dicks, Chicago Balls, and Atlantic Cocks.

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Speaker 4: Understanding those five are.

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Speaker 3: Together those hold on, hold on, hold on, let me

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Speaker 3: think about it. Ah yeah, I understand why not too.

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Speaker 5: Couldn't let him take up three separate spots in the

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Speaker 5: top five. You can hang out there at number five,

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Speaker 5: number four, similar to the Phoenix Suns, the Cleveland Calves

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Speaker 5: c A L V. Yes, gods are very importantly. I

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Speaker 5: would say it's between you and Skeets having the best

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Speaker 5: calves here. I know it's not me. I got chicken legs.

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Speaker 3: He's got. He's got big old calves, big hairy calves.

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Speaker 5: Number three, the Brooklyn Necks.

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Speaker 1: Ah well, I was gonna jump in and say, I

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Speaker 1: thought you were gonna say the New York next. I

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Speaker 1: know you said them at the stop, and I was

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Speaker 1: gonna say that, yeah, but yeah, okay, great, I knew

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Speaker 1: I knew you bring out next at some point.

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Speaker 5: Man, that's one specialty for some people out there. I

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Speaker 5: imagine number two the Miami Feet.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yesterday, we're talking this morning thing too, I think.

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Speaker 5: Talking feet. And number one coming in at number one

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Speaker 5: again Milwaukee. They're not the Backs anymore now, the Milwaukee Butts. Well,

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Speaker 5: we love it.

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Speaker 2: Exactly right.

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Speaker 5: So that's your top seven New York Dicks, Chicago Balls,

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Speaker 5: Atlanta Cox at number five, number four, Cleveland Calves, number three,

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Speaker 5: Brooklyn next, number two, Miami Feet, and number one the

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Speaker 5: Milwaukee Bucks. Your top five NBA teams if they were

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Speaker 5: body parks. Just sad, Milwaukee Bucks, Milwaukee Butts. Nonetheless, tweet

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Speaker 5: to us hashtag NBA body parts. That was with your

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Speaker 5: best NBA body parts.

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Speaker 3: I love that. I love that.

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Speaker 5: Do you this?

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Speaker 3: That list reminded me remember the Nintendo game Double Dribble.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, that was awesome, awesome Nintendo game. There

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Speaker 3: was four teams in that. It wasn't licensed by the

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Speaker 3: NBA either. Do you remember the names of the teams?

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Speaker 3: The four teams. I'll give you the cities. I don't

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Speaker 3: know if that would help. The Boston Yeah, this is

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Speaker 3: very tough. Okay, I'll just give them to you. Boston Frogs,

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Speaker 3: the Chicago Stags or close Box yeah yeah, the l A.

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Speaker 3: Ponds Breakers okay, and the New York Eagles for the

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Speaker 3: four teams in the in double trium.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that was a great game.

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Speaker 3: I love that game with the cutaway when you get

997
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Speaker 3: a dunk and then I had sure remember I was

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Speaker 3: rocking that trip for a while. All right, great top

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Speaker 3: five hit us up. Like Trey said on Twitter, at

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Speaker 3: no dunk sank but hashtag NBA body parts.

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Speaker 4: That's right.

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Speaker 3: We'll keep our eye on that. Let's get that trending

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Speaker 3: in America.

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Speaker 5: Hopefully nothing else happens in America today so we can

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Speaker 5: maybe get on the top of the charts.

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Speaker 3: Okay, let's get to tweet up the night, m tweet

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Speaker 3: out the night. Wow, guys, I had the honor of

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Speaker 3: combing Twitter for the tweet of the night. And here's

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Speaker 3: what I came up with. It's a two parter. At

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Speaker 3: Talk Hoops tweeting last last night, Chuck the condor doesn't

1011
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Speaker 3: need to be out there for everything at HP Basketball

1012
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Speaker 3: responded to Zach Harper. There at Talk Hoops was just

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Speaker 3: thinking this. We honored a one hundred and four year

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Speaker 3: old veteran by having a giant cartoon condor Condor stick

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Speaker 3: his finger in his ear. God bless America. Now what

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Speaker 3: these guys, these guys are talking about. Obviously the Raptors

1017
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Speaker 3: Clippers game, and it was Veterans Day. It was remembered

1018
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Speaker 3: stay up in Canada, but Veterans Day in the States,

1019
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Speaker 3: and they brought out this one hundred and four year old,

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Speaker 3: you know, war vet. They were giving him like his

1021
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Speaker 3: own jersey said one oh four on it like it

1022
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Speaker 3: was all framed, everything very nice, and Chuck the Condor

1023
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Speaker 3: at one point, like standing beside him, decides to give

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Speaker 3: this guy, one hundred and four year old man a

1025
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Speaker 3: war vet on Veterans Day, a wet willie.

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Speaker 5: He just sticks.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I guess it's it could have

1028
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Speaker 3: been right, but anyway, he's sticking his giant foam finger

1029
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Speaker 3: in this old man's ear.

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Speaker 4: It was weird.

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00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 3: It's very weird, pretty offensive oddly, and then and I

1032
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Speaker 3: tweeted this, like I don't know, it was worse. Like

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Speaker 3: after that, the old man salutes and then like this

1034
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Speaker 3: mascot sort of semi sarcastically salutes like with them that

1035
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Speaker 3: might even be more offensive and I think that's why

1036
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Speaker 3: he doesn't need to blie out there for this out there. Yeah,

1037
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Speaker 3: like I get it's for the photo op and I

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Speaker 3: and again, I understand the mascot trying to bring silly

1039
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Speaker 3: and funny. I'm sure, but I don't know about sticking

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Speaker 3: your finger in his ear.

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Speaker 4: I missed this moment, so I'm checking it out. Currently,

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Speaker 4: the veteran is smiling, big smile on his face with

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Speaker 4: that finger in his ear.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he doesn't seem upset about it, that's for sure.

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Speaker 4: That's a big smile. That's a really big smile. Pulling

1046
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Speaker 4: the Delante west dry Willy. Yeah, I remember the Delante

1047
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Speaker 4: Gordon Hayward way back in the day. Yeah, I hear

1048
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Speaker 4: what you're saying, though, he just doesn't. I'm getting video now.

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Speaker 4: This is great. Yeah, it's just can barely walk.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's awkward. It's very awkward.

1051
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 4: That's weird. Yeah, that is so weird. It wasn't like

1052
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 4: a poke in the ear too, it was really that's a.

1053
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Speaker 1: Wing Willie plus Delontae Westlide twenty five grand bat ten

1054
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Speaker 1: years ago when he gave Golden Willie.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, maybe the condo was going to cup it.

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Speaker 3: He should he should. Zach Harper's right. He doesn't need

1057
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Speaker 3: to be out there for everything. We didn't even get

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Speaker 3: into that game, by the way, very very entertaining. Great

1059
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Speaker 3: performance again by the Raptors. They came up short, Clippers

1060
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 3: pulled away, Raptors really looked to appeared to run out

1061
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Speaker 3: of gas in the back to back after playing the

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Speaker 3: Lakers the night prior. But defensive game, man, there was

1063
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Speaker 3: some defense being played in that one. And actually that's uh,

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Speaker 3: that was the game in our pick the results. So

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Speaker 3: let's get to that.

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Speaker 3: That game wraps clips Clippers favored by ten and a half.

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Speaker 3: Some of us here thought it was a little too high.

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Speaker 3: That didn't seem right. Raptors are a scrappy bunch.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, if it was nine and a half, I would

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Speaker 4: have gone the other way.

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Speaker 3: Wow, Well it was, I mean, as these always sort

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Speaker 3: of tend to do. It came down to a final

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Speaker 3: sort of pointless possession or two. You know, the Clippers

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Speaker 3: were up big, not enough though they were up ten

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Speaker 3: I should say, I guess, And were they up to

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Speaker 3: know they were up nine maybe and Matt Thomas decides

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Speaker 3: to foul to put the Clippers to the line. Was

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Speaker 3: Jamichael Green Is that correct?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I think it was.

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Speaker 5: I think they were up eight and it was like

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Speaker 5: he caught the ball underneath and Thomas tried to wrap

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Speaker 5: them up, so he went up to that's right, one

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Speaker 5: free throw. But though Jamichael greenbacks were not money left

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Speaker 5: it short and then the Clippers still played defense on

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Speaker 5: the other end, which was pretty weird. Uh, but you know,

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Speaker 5: a one point loss. That's why they built the big hotels.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Trey had the Clippers went in by eleven or more,

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Speaker 3: so he just comes up short as the Clips got

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Speaker 3: the ten point win. So that's a win for tass

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00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 3: Lee and myself got a nice little uh November pick.

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Speaker 3: I'm going here though it's tight right now. I lead

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Speaker 3: with a four and three record. Everybody else three and four,

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Speaker 3: so we are right there. Reason we do this, by

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Speaker 3: the way, at the end of the month, somebody's got

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Speaker 3: to do something. Whoever's in the last place. Gotta do

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Speaker 3: something weird, something embarrassing that we blast on social media.

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Speaker 3: All right, So what's tonight's game? Oh, we talked to it.

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Speaker 3: I guess we talked about this yesterday. It's gotta be

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Speaker 3: the uh, the users game, loser ball.

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Speaker 4: It's a bit of a toilet bowl here the next

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Speaker 4: visiting the Bulls. Five and a half points for the

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Speaker 4: Chicago Bulls. They're the favorites at Oh my goodness, Oh my,

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Speaker 4: that's a perfect line line really yeah, but it makes

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Speaker 4: it tough. It makes it tough to pick because if

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Speaker 4: it was lower, you'd say the home team, the Knicks

1133
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,399
Speaker 4: are boopy, but you got you got some points there.

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Speaker 4: They have to cover. They got to win by six

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Speaker 4: or more.

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Speaker 3: Oh my, oh my goodness, how do you pick this?

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 5: The Bulls have already lost to the Knicks once this.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's great. Yeah, that's good information.

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Speaker 5: Very cool, But it's not happening again. Boiling in the

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Speaker 5: Boys taking the Knicks out to the woodshed tonight, twenty

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Speaker 5: five point victory for Chicago. See tomorrow, David, you.

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Speaker 3: Think we'll be leading the show with Fisdale fire.

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Speaker 5: Day Fizdale fired, boiling, bawling.

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Speaker 3: So Trey's got the Bulls.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I'm just remembering the Nicks on

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Speaker 1: Friday had a full point when Ian Dallas like yeah, and.

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Speaker 3: Surely Marcus Morris man looking great.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so against the Bulls. Surely they can cover that

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Speaker 6: line kind of thing.

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Speaker 3: But give me the bulls.

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Speaker 5: Getting Ah, that's it is a tough form is tough.

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Speaker 4: I'll take the Bulls, thank you.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how, but okay, hold on, okay, I'll

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Speaker 3: take the next.

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Speaker 5: Let's swerve it on the mix.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna swerve it.

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Speaker 2: Really a swift this case.

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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, right, I know who knows what to expect.

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Speaker 3: I'm not confident about this one at all. But I'll

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Speaker 3: give you the next, and we'll make things a little

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Speaker 3: more interesting here. And they look, they only have to

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Speaker 3: lose by five points or less or get the win.

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Speaker 3: Go get that win. Next save coach Fizzdale's you know,

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Speaker 3: I was gonna say, career life. He probably you know

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Speaker 3: what they might want to he may want out set

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Speaker 3: them free. Okay, so I got the next. Everybody else

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Speaker 3: has the Bulls by five and a half.

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Speaker 4: All right. I will say about that Clippers Raptors game,

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Speaker 4: real quick, we talked about guys needing to be better

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Speaker 4: liars or teams needing to be better liars. I think

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Speaker 4: Kawhi Leonard was an awesome liar in this game because

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Speaker 4: because he talked about a post game he said it

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Speaker 4: was it was fun just be able to compete against

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Speaker 4: guys who you're with last year. It's a little bit

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Speaker 4: more competitive because you do talk to them. What a

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Speaker 4: layar and didn't talk to anybody. So, see, he's great.

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Speaker 4: You just say just say, rest Or say I've got

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Speaker 4: a knee injury. I should say. You know, he's a layer,

1180
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Speaker 4: but he's good at it and he's good at basketball,

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Speaker 4: and so are the Raptors.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was That was a heck of a fight.

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Speaker 3: There was a moral victory there for Raps fans and

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Speaker 3: the team desplay coming up ten short.

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Speaker 1: What about Nick Nurse getting a tech foul two minutes

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Speaker 1: into the game because Og got poked in the eye

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Speaker 1: and he had to leave the game and he couldn't return.

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Speaker 1: I mean, and there was no foul called on the play,

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Speaker 1: right that tea should be rescinded? Okay, I mean the

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Speaker 1: guy was injured for the rest of the game. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you've got you've got a case, haven't you to say?

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Speaker 1: Come on, how did you miss that? And you see

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Speaker 1: the replay he definitely smoked in the ripped his contact.

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Speaker 6: I think, is is that what they said?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: they well I don't know, Kennedy, I guess it can

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Speaker 3: I guess they're saying within the game itself.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's like it cost them a point and

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