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Speaker 3: Welcome to another edition of the Giants Little Podcast, brought

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Speaker 3: to you by Citizens Official Bank at the Giants. I'm

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Speaker 3: in the Hackensack Coriney Health Podcast Studio. Keep getting better.

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Speaker 3: It's time for another beat, right, a round table. I

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Speaker 3: wish I went back and counted how many of these

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Speaker 3: we've done. I think we're probably at like five or

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Speaker 3: six straight years to to preview the season with this

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Speaker 3: and joining me this year, as usual, we have Art

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Speaker 3: Stapleton from the Record, we have Paul Schwartz and The

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Speaker 3: New York Post, and now we have Chris Busy Nano

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Speaker 3: as the fourth member of our quartet here from Giants Insider.

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Speaker 1: Gentlemen, how are you hope you are well?

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Speaker 3: I want to start with this, Uh, Paul, You've been

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Speaker 3: the longest on the beat, so we will give you

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Speaker 3: the honors of going first, age before beauty Here. What's

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Speaker 3: the most important thing you think you learned about this

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Speaker 3: team this spring and summer?

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Speaker 4: Why the hell do I always go first?

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Speaker 1: It's it's it's it's an honor.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, it's it's not it's it's one of those.

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Speaker 4: It's one of those. You've been here the longest, so

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Speaker 4: you go first. What do you think I'm gonna fall

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Speaker 4: asleep by the end of this, So you have to

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Speaker 4: get me. You have to get my words going now,

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Speaker 4: all right, I I understand. This is a it's a

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Speaker 4: it's a it's a man.

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Speaker 5: Body.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I get it, Okay.

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Speaker 1: Paul, Paul.

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Speaker 3: This is basically the equivalent of abdual part trying to

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Speaker 3: get to the podium and Brian Burns saying no, no, no,

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Speaker 3: you go away now, and I'm going first.

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Speaker 4: You know what. And it's funny because I've often been

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Speaker 4: compared with Brian Burns in a lot of different aspects.

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Speaker 4: So you're that's You're right on with that one. You

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Speaker 4: know what I learned. I learned that what new quarterbacks

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Speaker 4: can do to the atmosphere of a room and a team. Okay,

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Speaker 4: we don't know if they're going to add more wins yet.

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Speaker 4: We think they will. But it's just they added one, two,

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Speaker 4: three new quarterbacks. And this is not going to be

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Speaker 4: a referendum on Daniel Jones today, right, We're not going

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Speaker 4: to do that. But it just seems like the atmosphere

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Speaker 4: and the attitude and it was like the window was

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Speaker 4: open and this breath of freshness came in. All three

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Speaker 4: were different. I think we kind of got a sense

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Speaker 4: what Russell was beforehand. I think we kind of got

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Speaker 4: a sense what Jamis was beforehand. And I think those

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Speaker 4: what our senses were multiplied and magnified because they are

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Speaker 4: more than what we thought they were. And I think

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Speaker 4: we whenever, you know, when I've been covering to beat,

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Speaker 4: whenever you bring a rookie quarterback in who they think

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Speaker 4: could be the future, that adds juice. And I'll speak

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Speaker 4: for myself and I would think that all four of

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Speaker 4: us will say that we were either blown away or

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Speaker 4: surprised that Jackson Dart was so much of a revelation

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Speaker 4: this summer. So that was my take on this team.

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Speaker 4: That boy, the quarterback room is different and refreshing and interesting,

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Speaker 4: really interesting art.

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Speaker 1: How about you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I don't want to, you know, just

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Speaker 2: go online. But I think Paul makes a great point

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Speaker 2: and it's definitely a talking point going into the season,

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Speaker 2: the idea that you know, look these quarterbacks. I think

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Speaker 2: I maybe underestimated the lack of overall leadership from the

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Speaker 2: quarterback position on the team. And like Paul said, it's

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Speaker 2: not a referendum on who is here, it's just it's

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Speaker 2: not easy to construct the quarterback room. And they brought in,

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Speaker 2: you know, personalities that went from you know, milk toast

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Speaker 2: to fireball. I mean that's pretty much what I was

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Speaker 2: told back in March, and it carried through. I think

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Speaker 2: it's interesting the way they pieced it together. You know,

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Speaker 2: it was almost like a puzzle. I think Russell Wilson

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Speaker 2: is the pick me up guy. Russell Wilson is the

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Speaker 2: come on guy seven o'clock, like Darius Slayton said this week,

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Speaker 2: disgustingly consistent that he's always there for smile and if

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Speaker 2: he didn't do it every day, you would say, man,

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Speaker 2: I'm just so tired of that. But it's like, how

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Speaker 2: are you up so much? And then I look at

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Speaker 2: But I think Jameis Winston is also the heavy. I

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Speaker 2: I think there's accountability. I saw it this summer. A

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Speaker 2: to the point where Russell and Jamis kind of play

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Speaker 2: two sides of the coin. And I think that has

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Speaker 2: different guys, two different perspectives, and how they handle it.

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Speaker 2: So I think Paul nailed it from March until now,

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Speaker 2: and now let's see when they get on the field

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Speaker 2: and landover on September seventh.

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Speaker 1: The same question to you, you can expand or go

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Speaker 1: somewhere else.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I hate to give what's so much credit, but

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna do it. He's the captain here, so I'm

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Speaker 5: gonna have to ride with the captain that Brian burns

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Speaker 5: it team. Look, this organization needed a bolt of energy

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Speaker 5: in the worst way, and the quarterback room has provided

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Speaker 5: that this spring and summer, and no question about it.

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Speaker 5: The drafting of the franchise quarterback and he think is

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Speaker 5: the franchise with Jackson and Russell Wilson. Like Paul said before,

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Speaker 5: I'm not gonna sit here talk about Daniel Jones. But

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Speaker 5: it's a much different quarterback room now with Russell Jamis

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Speaker 5: and of course bringing in Jackson.

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Speaker 6: This organization was blah. Let's face it.

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Speaker 5: I remember standing in training camp last year and saying,

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Speaker 5: oh man, it's just like this year. Much different. Much

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Speaker 5: need energy through the building. The future is bright with

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Speaker 5: Jackson thought he showed that this summer, and of course Russell,

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Speaker 5: and it brings up a good point.

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Speaker 6: You know, there's a lot of.

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Speaker 5: Russell behind the scene that we don't see. And he's

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Speaker 5: a leader. Everybody said that talk deal that this guy

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Speaker 5: is just a natural leader.

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Speaker 6: And what he prove to this quarterback room and.

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Speaker 5: To this organization was much much eated. That was the

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Speaker 5: biggest thing I took for his training camp to all right.

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Speaker 3: So let's stick with the quarterbacks the art and Paul

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Speaker 3: mentioned this in his first answer. Now the rubber hits

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Speaker 3: the road, right. You know, the leadership is great, the

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Speaker 3: feelings are great, the vibes are great. I agree with

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Speaker 3: everything all you guys said. I you know, even what

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Speaker 3: Eli was here, right, he led in a different way,

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Speaker 3: like I don't feel like even he had an impact

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Speaker 3: But then Eli went out there and led in the

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Speaker 3: two super Bowls? Right, So what do you think now

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Speaker 3: this is gonna look like offensively when Russell Wilson gets

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Speaker 3: on the field as the starting quarterback in this offense?

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Speaker 3: How have they built this thing around him? How is

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Speaker 3: Brian Dave and Mike Kafka going to try to make

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Speaker 3: this thing work? And what will look like with Russell

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Speaker 2: That is the ten point five million dollars question, right

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Speaker 2: with Russell Wilson, I mean we know what he's gotten

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Speaker 2: off the field, and if you pay attention, whenever Russell

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Speaker 2: Wilson has been talked about the last couple of months,

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Speaker 2: it's always been about what he brings off the field

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Speaker 2: and on the field in the huddle and personality wise

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Speaker 2: and his approach. And he has a Super Bowl ring

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Speaker 2: and he's in the same locker that he had Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl week way back when I'm at life. But the

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Speaker 2: reality is, I think that is the biggest uncertainty and

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Speaker 2: mystery regarding the Giants in that we've spent so much

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Speaker 2: time this summer talking about what this offense looks like

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Speaker 2: with Jackson Dart and asking Brian Dable about Jackson Dark.

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Speaker 2: I think on Wednesday was the first press conference that

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Speaker 2: Brian Dable was asked a question about Jackson Dart. Actually,

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Speaker 2: I think I said that to you biz, you know

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Speaker 2: the idea, you know, hey, we didn't ask about Jackson today,

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Speaker 2: and it was actually an intriguing thing we saw in

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Speaker 2: practice after the fact Gable kind of breaking off during

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Speaker 2: an individual period and working with Jackson in the end zone.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know what we're going to see from Russ.

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Speaker 2: I don't expect to see the washed player that I

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Speaker 2: thought we were gonna see this season. I think he's

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Speaker 2: shown a lot more than he was given credit. Four

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Speaker 2: in eleven games in Pittsburgh, leads a team to the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: and the reality is if he did that this year,

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Speaker 2: the Giants fans would be looking to put him in

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Speaker 2: the Ring of Honor next year. I mean, that's how

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Speaker 2: much of a difference it is. You know, I always

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Speaker 2: talk war, you know, or the value of replacement in baseball,

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Speaker 2: you know, value of replacement here for Russell Wilson and

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Speaker 2: the quarterbacks, I think is a big jump. Does this

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Speaker 2: offense rely a little bit more on Tyrone Tracy, the

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Speaker 2: the you know play action. I think that's where Russell's

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Speaker 2: at his best. And you know, we all anticipated the

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Speaker 2: vertical game last year and we didn't see it at all.

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Speaker 2: Do we see the vertical game this year? Maybe guys

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Speaker 2: But I think that's the biggest thing is that I

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Speaker 2: just don't know what this offense is gonna truly look

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Speaker 2: like with Russell Wilson when the lights go on and

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Speaker 2: you know they're to let's go, let's see how good

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Speaker 2: this offense can be. Because that's why I asked Brian Dabele,

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Speaker 2: Russell's a pro and Russell's this. I don't know what

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Speaker 2: they're going to look like. And I'm not afraid to

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Speaker 2: admit that it's a little bit of a mystery for

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Speaker 2: me when I walk into that stadium down there and

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Speaker 2: FedEx and have to watch the game from like this

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Speaker 2: because it's obstructive view in the press box.

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Speaker 3: All right, So biz Art said, that's a mystery. Put

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Speaker 3: your detective hat back on here, try to get to

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Speaker 3: the bottom of this.

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Speaker 1: What are we looking at here? What is that that's

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Speaker 5: Yeah, look it's got a point. We're not going to

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Speaker 5: know that we start seeing him playing on you know,

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Speaker 5: starting next.

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Speaker 6: Week in Washington. But what we do expect is this.

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Speaker 5: You know, Brian Daves is never gonna come out and

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Speaker 5: tell us, well, we're going to attack down a field

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Speaker 5: more and all that stuff, because you know, Dave would

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Speaker 5: either have fifteen root canals that tell us anything, you

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Speaker 5: know what he expects to do this season. Uh, what

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Speaker 5: the what the way you're going to attack it? But look,

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Speaker 5: that's what we expect, right John. Uh, we expect Russell

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Speaker 5: to be more vertical. That's what they want from him.

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Speaker 5: And we'll see out of place that we're gonna steal

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Speaker 5: out of boots. That's what Russell loves to do. And

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Speaker 5: guy's a slate. Look, there's there was times last season

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Speaker 5: we all looked at the film after the games.

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Speaker 6: I'm sure well there was guys opened.

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Speaker 5: Down the field that the previous quarterback just didn't pull

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Speaker 5: offense now is gonna be a lot of Well, we're

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Speaker 5: gonna get guys down the field, and we're gonna hit

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Speaker 5: them down the field, Okay, and that's what Russell's gonna provide.

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Speaker 5: So because look, that's what Russell provides, right, we all

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Speaker 6: He gets it.

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Speaker 5: Down the field, and that's what Brian Dabo and Mike

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry, John, Look, Russell's lot of turnover machine.

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Speaker 6: That should cut down.

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Speaker 5: Okay, but that's what they hope for all. Let's get

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Speaker 3: Look, more exposive plays and fewer turnovers. I think is

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Speaker 4: I don't even know what wins against RW runs runs

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Speaker 6: It's a boy boy, you're really old now, buddy.

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Speaker 4: People go, well, he's in two seventeen, but I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: we got dangerous, you know, we got the Seattle. I

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Speaker 4: But I think they're going to want to run the ball,

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Speaker 4: We're gonna, you know, try to get twenty one points,

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Speaker 4: to be Russ Russ Russ. It's going to be Russ

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Speaker 4: people ask me how's Russ? How he doesn't look physically

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Speaker 4: He throws the ball. I mean, I didn't watch him

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Speaker 4: the neighbors, and let's just keep it tight, keep it together,

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Speaker 4: hit a shot when we can and let Abdul Carter

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Speaker 1: Yeah and go ahead, biz Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So like, look, that's what he did in Pittsburgh, La

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Speaker 5: Lesh yet right, they had the defense and all that.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, Jay is what he did when

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean they you know, like Paul said, this

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Speaker 6: More aggressive with RUSS.

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Speaker 5: But like Paul just said, you know, like they did

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Speaker 6: You're gonna see a lot of that.

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Speaker 6: That Russ could go vertical.

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Speaker 5: Okay, that's the difference. Russ could go vertical this year.

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Speaker 2: It wouldn't surprise me John and guys that if they

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Speaker 2: Get meleak Neighbor. When did Malik Neighbors catch the ball

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Speaker 4: let's go here, let's let's let's move the ball down

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Speaker 4: the field a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny.

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Speaker 3: I think I go back to the one bomb that

436
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Speaker 3: rushed through in the preseason. When he let that ball

437
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Speaker 3: go to bow Collins, he was almost surrounded by two guys.

438
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Speaker 3: Bo Collins had not gone open yet when that ball

439
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Speaker 3: came out of Russ's hands, but he anticipated the bad

440
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Speaker 3: angle the safety took and it turned into an eighty

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Speaker 3: r cat.

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Speaker 1: So I think that's a perfect example. All Right, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna leave this open ended.

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Speaker 3: For each of you give me your X factor for

445
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Speaker 3: the Giants offense this season. If you want to hit

446
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Speaker 3: the quarterback again, you can, but we've done that. I

447
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Speaker 3: think a lot. This can be a player, it can

448
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Speaker 3: be just something they need to do better. It could

449
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Speaker 3: be a unit. Any way you want to go, Will go,

450
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Speaker 3: Biz Art Schwartz, Biz, why don't you lead us off

451
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Speaker 3: with this one?

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Speaker 6: My X factor for the offense.

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Speaker 5: It's gonna be Thealo Johnson. I think Deal's gonna be

454
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Speaker 5: a big part of this. Everybody talks about when you

455
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Speaker 5: talk about Giants took about the leak. Right, we're gonna

456
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Speaker 5: talk about Russ. But you know what, I think this

457
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Speaker 5: tight end room is gonna be a big factor, and

458
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Speaker 5: THEO John's is gonna be a big fact of this offense.

459
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Speaker 2: I would go, I'm gonna go player as well mentioned

460
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Speaker 2: him a little bit earlier, Tyrone Tracy. I think Tyrone Tracy,

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Speaker 2: with what he did in such a limited resume as

462
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Speaker 2: a running back last year in the NFL and just

463
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Speaker 2: kind of growing by fire, so to speak, during the season,

464
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Speaker 2: I really think that Tracy thinks he can be something

465
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Speaker 2: special and I think by watching him, I think he

466
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Speaker 2: could be by the end of the season. And we're

467
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Speaker 2: talking about a top twelve back in the league. Now,

468
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Speaker 2: what does that mean. It doesn't mean anything if they

469
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Speaker 2: don't produce and they don't win games. But I really

470
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Speaker 2: think that this offense, as much as it's going to, yes,

471
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Speaker 2: it's gonna revolve around Malik Neighbors number one, and I

472
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Speaker 2: agree with Biz. I think Theo Johnson could have the

473
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Speaker 2: second number of targets on the team. But I think

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Speaker 2: Tyrone Tracy could be a player that you know, he's

475
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Speaker 2: gonna get a lot of attention because of the fantasy

476
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Speaker 2: football aspect, so a lot of people week one to

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Speaker 2: Week two might be talking Tyrone Tracy. Tyrone Tracy. I

478
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Speaker 2: think for this offense, all of the rookies we talked

479
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Speaker 2: about last year need to take a big step forward.

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Speaker 2: I think Tracy eight hundred yards rushing last year. If

481
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Speaker 2: you're talking a full season and a quarterback that doesn't

482
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Speaker 2: turn the ball over, you could see Tyrone Tracy at

483
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Speaker 2: twelve hundred yards rushing, rushing with without even forcing it.

484
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Speaker 2: Like I don't even know if you have to be

485
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Speaker 2: the most optimistic person in the world to think Tyrone Tracy,

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Speaker 2: he could be the guy that does that.

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Speaker 1: Huddle up, get in here.

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Speaker 7: If you're lined up here you gotta go over the

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Speaker 7: middle with at the score great.

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Speaker 2: How do we make that happen?

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Speaker 7: I don't know, but Citizens does? It makes sense of

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Speaker 5: This ball on the ground concern you heading into the season?

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Speaker 2: Well, I didn't hear you. I got I got our landscapers.

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Speaker 5: Now all of a sudden, Oh okay, I saw a

504
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Speaker 5: guy steaking up behind you.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. Does Tyrone Tracy putting the ball on the ground

506
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Speaker 6: concern you?

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Speaker 5: You want, that's something he's.

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Speaker 2: Got to pay attention to. I mean, talked about how

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Speaker 2: he got grippers and off of Amazon in the spring,

510
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Speaker 2: and how he's working on ball security. You know, I

511
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Speaker 2: don't want to. You know, John now has a colleague

512
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Speaker 2: that he spends his weekends with who had a ball

513
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Speaker 2: security issue seemed to figure out a way to fix

514
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Speaker 2: it and get to a point where he became the

515
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Speaker 2: best running back in franchise history. So maybe I'll give

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Speaker 2: Tyrone Tracy a little bit of opportunity to not put

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Speaker 2: the ball on the carpet. But if he does that,

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Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, you're looking elsewhere in.

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Speaker 3: Art I could tell you, and and Paul will get

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Speaker 3: to you in a second. Talking to tatiky On, I

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Speaker 3: forget what it was one of the pregame shows we

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Speaker 3: did in the preseason. He said, look, he has talked

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Speaker 3: to Tyrone. He said, look, the one thing you need

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Speaker 3: to do is not fumble, because that will like short

525
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Speaker 3: circuit your career. You know, you got to do the

526
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Speaker 3: X with the one hand over, the young handover. You're

527
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Speaker 3: not going to lose it. And he has talked to

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Speaker 3: you about that. They have talked this. Tiki actually has

529
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Speaker 3: told me that Tyrone Tracy reminds him a lot of him,

530
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Speaker 3: his running style, his slashing style, his ability to catch it.

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Speaker 3: So I'm with you on that, Paul, what's your X factor?

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Speaker 4: I like how Art and Biz were pandering to the

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Speaker 4: fantasy football you know, they absolutely trying to get a

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Speaker 4: fantasy football action here. Oh, the tight end, the tight

535
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Speaker 4: end is going to have a million.

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Speaker 2: Catches, target shares, a target share.

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Speaker 6: Target.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're in.

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Speaker 4: A if you're in a uh you know uh what

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Speaker 4: reception per point point per you know you go with him. Look, look,

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Speaker 4: I'm old school, okay, you know who the key to

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Speaker 4: this offense is Andrew Thomas.

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Speaker 3: Well, by the way, we've set a record. We've done

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Speaker 3: a million of these. We're like twenty five minutes in.

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Speaker 1: That's the first time someone mentioned the offensive wide.

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Speaker 4: It is Andrew Thomas.

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Speaker 2: You know when I'm hanging fruit.

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Speaker 4: Come on, no, no, because if you know what, if

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Speaker 4: you know, you know what I do. Sometimes I always

550
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Speaker 4: think and I try to project team, and I'll say,

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Speaker 4: if you could give me like one or two stats

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Speaker 4: at the end of the year, if you tell him

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Speaker 4: to me at the start of the year, like what

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Speaker 4: would be the most important to me? You know what

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Speaker 4: I mean? Like, Okay, maybe it is Tyron Tracy fourteen hundred,

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Speaker 4: maybe it's Neighbors, you know, fourteen touchdowns, and maybe it's

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Speaker 4: Russell Wilson. You know, this is an interesting one, Russell

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Speaker 4: Wilson games played, Right, If Russell Wilson's game played is

559
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Speaker 4: fifteen or sixteen or seventeen, then they've had a pretty

560
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Speaker 4: darn good year to Yeah, games played. Andrew Thomas. We

561
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Speaker 4: know he's a good player. I mean, you guys saw him, right.

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Speaker 4: I mean he didn't have a lot of time to

563
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Speaker 4: run because of his because of his foot, he had

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Speaker 4: a lot of time to lift right man alive his

565
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Speaker 4: upper body is. I mean, he's never to look like

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Speaker 4: that before.

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Speaker 6: So I was talking about that yesterdays. Abotter of fact point.

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Speaker 4: I mean he's got some guns on him now. So

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Speaker 4: to me, games played Andrew Thomas, because I know he's

570
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Speaker 4: a good player, you know, I know he's good. I

571
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Speaker 4: know he could be really good. If Andrew Thomas is

572
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Speaker 4: playing fifteen games this year, I can say the offensive

573
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Speaker 4: line is gonna be Okay. It's not gonna be It's

574
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Speaker 4: not gonna be top ten, I don't think, but it's

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Speaker 4: gonna be not gonna be bottom ten. It's gonna be okay.

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Speaker 4: They have answers now, and they have some depth and

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Speaker 4: they have some pieces, but they don't have an answer

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Speaker 4: for fifteen games that left tackle without him. So, I mean,

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Speaker 4: I really want to see him on the field in Washington,

580
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Speaker 4: I get it. If he can't be. If he can't be,

581
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Speaker 4: I really want to see him on the field in

582
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Speaker 4: Dallas because they need him. They need him, they need him.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's about time us, all of us stop

584
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Speaker 4: hyperventilating about the offensive line, right and it's been more

585
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Speaker 4: than a decade and we have to do it because

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Speaker 4: they just cripple the team half the time. So if

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Speaker 4: he plays, I think they'll be okay. So he is

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Speaker 4: my ex factor. Just get on the field and do

589
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Speaker 4: what you do because we know what he can do.

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Speaker 3: And look, I'll be honest with you guys, I think

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Speaker 3: I think the Giants' best player offensively in the summer

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Speaker 3: might have been Jamada Luminor. I mean he's had the

593
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Speaker 3: block Brian Burns and Abdul Carter and he did not

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Speaker 3: lose many of those reps against some very good pass

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Speaker 3: rushers in those one on one drills. I think that's

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Speaker 3: to Paul's point, if this offensive line can be what

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Speaker 3: the seventeenth best offensive line in the league this year,

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Speaker 3: I think little, okay, fine, fourteenth, right, I think that

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Speaker 3: is more than good enough for this offense to function

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Speaker 3: the way Biz and Art you guys described that you

601
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Speaker 3: want this offense to look like. And I think they

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Speaker 3: have the guys to do it. And I do think

603
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Speaker 3: to Paul's point, they have some depth behind the guys.

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Speaker 3: If they have some injuries too.

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Speaker 2: I would get enough.

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Speaker 5: No, No, I was just saying, man, I'll take seventeenth best.

607
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 5: Know Schwartz is getting greedy over it, and I'll want fourteenth.

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Speaker 5: I'll take seventeen best, but what this line has been

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Speaker 5: the last few years.

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Speaker 2: I'll take seventeenth best NFL ranking of the offensive lines.

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Speaker 2: Post Sports Plus Paul will have it next week for you.

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Speaker 2: I'll give you a little, uh little hatchet. You know

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Speaker 2: what the other X factor I was going to go for.

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Speaker 2: I was going for players, but to go on the

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Speaker 2: offensive line. To me, John Michael Schmiz. Will John Michael

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Speaker 2: Schmitz be the player that the Giants thought they were drafting.

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Speaker 2: I remember talking to Sean o'harow when Schmiz was drafted

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Speaker 2: and it was one of those you know, give him

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Speaker 2: a little time. You know, he's gotta gotta get into

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Speaker 2: his NFL body, he's got to get stronger, and you know,

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Speaker 2: we think that he could be this and that's what

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Speaker 2: O'Hara told me. Obviously, the Giants loved him. If John

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Speaker 2: Michael Schmiz can deal with the behemoths that will be

624
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Speaker 2: up front, you know, the jail and Carters of the world,

625
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Speaker 2: and give a semblance of continuity up front at the center,

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Speaker 2: I think that that could make a big difference. And

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Speaker 2: on the flip side, if JMS can't be that guy, now,

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden are you're looking at having to

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Speaker 2: move guys around? Do you want Van Roten at center?

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Speaker 2: And I think that kind of specula so I agree

631
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Speaker 2: with Paul as far as Andrew Thomas goes, but I

632
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Speaker 2: think it even goes deeper. I think illumin Or is

633
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Speaker 2: a big player. I think Marcus bo eventually could be

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Speaker 2: a big component to this offensive line at some point

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Speaker 2: this year, the rookie fifth rounder. He's shown really really

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Speaker 2: well at both tackle spots this summer. I personally thought

637
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Speaker 2: they were going to move him the guard immediately when

638
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Speaker 2: they drafted him. They stuck him at tackle and he's

639
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Speaker 2: looked really good this summer. But I go back, I

640
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Speaker 2: keep going back to JMS. JMS is funny. You know,

641
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Speaker 2: we kind of have this thing, you know, past each

642
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Speaker 2: other in the locker room and laugh and you know,

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Speaker 2: AJMS a R what's up? What's up? And he probably

644
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 2: does it with you guys too. It's funny because JMS

645
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Speaker 2: has the center when the Giants are going well, I

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Speaker 2: mean from O'Hara and then I even remember talking to

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Speaker 2: David Boss and when Kevin Booth played center here and

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Speaker 2: even Weston Richburg when he was here. It was always

649
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Speaker 2: that's the guy you want to talk to. You want

650
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 2: to talk about the guy. It's the center of the

651
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Speaker 2: offensive line. JMS has managed to kind of you know,

652
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 2: he'll do his media responsibility, but he won't tell you anything.

653
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 2: You know, you go and you interview him, and I've

654
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 2: joked with him about that. You know, if JMS can

655
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 2: be a front line player here, not in the league,

656
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 2: but a frontline player for the Giants, I think it

657
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 2: changes the complexion of this offense because now all of

658
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 2: a sudden, you're not just saying Andrew Thomas and who

659
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 2: you can actually say, Okay, they have their center, and

660
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 2: this guy, now a Joe Shane draft pick, is stepping

661
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 2: into big shoes and actually coming into his own and developing.

662
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 2: So that would would have been I was thinking about

663
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 2: him when I went with Tracy. But you know, you

664
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 2: guys talking the offensive line got me going in terms of,

665
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 2: you know, a real key that really isn't talked about.

666
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 2: I mean, let's be honest, how many times has John

667
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 2: Michael Schmid's been on the podium this summer? Because I

668
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 2: think the media, the beat, I'll speak for myself, we've

669
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 2: given up on the idea of getting good answers from JMS.

670
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 2: So every time John Runyan gets trotted out to the podium,

671
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 2: it's like, hey, it's great because running's great. Running gives

672
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 2: great answers running. You know, he's the guy. But like

673
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 2: to me, the key cog right here is JMS.

674
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Speaker 3: All right, let's jump to the defensive side of the ball. Here, guys,

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Speaker 3: defensive side of the ball, Biz, let's.

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Speaker 2: Start du Carner Abdul Carter, Abdul Carter A Carter.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the from.

683
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Speaker 3: So, I guess Mike, I'm gonna start this way though

684
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 3: we know the personnel's better. They drafted Carter, they bring

685
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 3: in Holland into de Bo. But do you think the

686
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 3: way this defense plays BIZ, and the way the personnel

687
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 3: is going to be utilized by Shane Bowen will look

688
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 3: different than what it looked like last year?

689
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 5: Scheme wise, Yeah, it better, John, it better. You have

690
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 5: to just to your talent. I expect a lot of

691
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 5: diff schemes from Shane Bonen this year. You got you

692
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 5: got man press corners. That's what you brought Paulson over

693
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 5: here for. Okay, he could play that man press and

694
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 5: the other side you got Tate Banks, you got flat

695
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 5: whatever on the other side is going to be.

696
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 6: You got to change your scheme.

697
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Speaker 5: Brother. And I think Shane brook Bowing well, as far

698
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 5: as that duel, you're gonna see him lined up all

699
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 5: over the damn place, all right, So Shane Bone's gonna

700
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Speaker 5: adjust to his personal I think we've talked about this before.

701
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Speaker 5: I think everybody's been talking about that. In the summer.

702
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 5: You always have to adjust to what you have. I

703
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 5: think Shane Bone, well, I think you see a lot

704
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 5: You're gonna see a lot morement you still. Look, we

705
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 5: saw in practices, we saw in preseason games. You're gonna

706
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 5: see a lot more man press this this starting next week.

707
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 5: You know you got the person that will to do it. Now,

708
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 5: I'm sure they feeling have the person that will do it.

709
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 5: I think you'll see that.

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Speaker 6: Paul.

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Speaker 3: I think the the combination of bringing in the two

712
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 3: veteran dbs last year's defensive backfield was very young, and

713
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 3: I think we saw that turn in the big plays.

714
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 3: Having Holland at the debo here and not just how

715
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 3: good they play, but they're in tels. Combined with the

716
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 3: fact that I think you can count on the front

717
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 3: to get to the quarterback, I think it is going

718
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 3: to allow a lot more freedom to Bowen to basically

719
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Speaker 3: do whatever he wants, right, whether it's post snapped the skies,

720
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 3: moving the secondary around to try to confuse the quarterback.

721
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Speaker 3: You know, these guys can sit on routes a little bit.

722
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Speaker 3: The Giants had five interceptions last year, five only one

723
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,280
Speaker 3: event fewer the Cleveland Browns who had four. There should

724
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,760
Speaker 3: be a lot more freedom here for Bowen to basically

725
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Speaker 3: do whatever he wants on defense to try to create

726
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Speaker 3: some more big plays, which they desperately need.

727
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Speaker 4: Look, it's really hard to run a defense when you

728
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 4: like trust eight or nine guys, right, it's really good,

729
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 4: But it's also a challenge to run a defense when

730
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Speaker 4: you have like thirteen or fourteen and they all have

731
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 4: to get on the field at some point and you

732
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 4: got to now figure out I mean, Chauncey Goldston was

733
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 4: signed here to play to play, you know, and so

734
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 4: is he on the field at first down? And maybe

735
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Speaker 4: Brian Burns is not on the field, you know, I

736
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 4: mean this things they need to figure out now, Roy

737
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,359
Speaker 4: Robertson Harris was signed to play to stop the run,

738
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Speaker 4: So is he on the field? And then Micah and

739
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,879
Speaker 4: then and then you know a case.

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Speaker 6: That's like what.

741
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Speaker 4: You know what I'm obsessed with. I'm obsessed with the

742
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:21,399
Speaker 4: Packers roster.

743
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Speaker 6: What can I tell you?

744
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:28,280
Speaker 2: He's talking about McFadden, You guys, stay, the best Micah

745
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 2: in the NFC East is McFadden.

746
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 4: The New York Post might have a Michael McFadden's feature

747
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 4: coming up soon. Okay, that's why. Yeah, And as Art

748
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 4: mentioned sports plus plus sports plus, he didn't mention it's

749
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 4: only four ninety nine. It's like the greatest bargain ever.

750
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Speaker 4: But I digress obviously. I just think it's a big challenge. Now.

751
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 4: You know, it's easy to say, oh, Burns, Carter, Decks, Cavon,

752
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 4: let him run. You know, that's easy. But if it's

753
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 4: if it's second and three, they can't be on a field.

754
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 4: They can't be on a field, you know what I mean?

755
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 4: So I think the biggest challenge, Yes, I look at

756
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 4: this and other than the other boundary corner. You know,

757
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 4: I don't think Deontay Banks or Cordell Flott won the job.

758
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 4: Someone will get the job. You know, they both will

759
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 4: hurt the summer. I don't think anyone I look at

760
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 4: and say it was a challenge and he picked it up.

761
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 4: They were both fine, they were okay, But no one

762
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 4: I won the job. So that I question. But I

763
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 4: think almost every defense in the league. I don't think

764
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 4: you go one through eleven and say I have no

765
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 4: questions about anything. So my question is with this imported

766
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 4: talent with Abdul Carter, who we think is going to

767
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 4: be a you know, stand them up, put him down,

768
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 4: go here, go here inside outside. You know, I can

769
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 4: probably scheme something for him, but they're paying Shane Bowen

770
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 4: to scheme it right and exactly right. Golston with Paris,

771
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 4: with all the you know, just to it's not just

772
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 4: cookie cutter anymore. And I think he's the key to

773
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 4: the defense. Really is the defensive coordinator? Is he up

774
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 4: to this?

775
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 5: Do you see a lot of different schemes? Do you

776
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 5: see him changing a lot of this year?

777
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 4: Well, I think they're going to play more man.

778
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 7: I just do.

779
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 4: I mean they have they have two men boundary corners.

780
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 4: I think you know, look, Tyler Neuban was a unbelievable

781
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 4: ballhawk at Minnesota, right he had eleven or thirteen, I

782
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 4: mean that was thirteen. I mean you know I saw

783
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 4: those games. He was taking a ball out of the

784
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 4: air all the time. Was he even near the ball

785
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 4: last year? So I mean, you know, I mean and

786
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 4: and I think javal Holland is going to be a

787
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 4: huge impact. First of all, he can go sideline to sideline.

788
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 4: He is going to run down touchdowns that you know,

789
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:54,439
Speaker 4: rundown plays that were touchdowns last year. And he's good

790
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 4: with us, with the media, He's good. A little bit attitudey,

791
00:37:58,239 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 4: but good.

792
00:37:58,960 --> 00:37:59,439
Speaker 5: He's good.

793
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's right.

794
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,320
Speaker 4: But I think he's really good in the room. I

795
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 4: think he's really good in the room. And I think

796
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 4: whoever said about you know they were young last year,

797
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 4: I mean Nubin and and and Drew Phillips, I mean

798
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 4: they have two guys now that they Tay Banks unquestionably,

799
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,320
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. You know, Tay Banks is

800
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 4: not going to be able to pull stuff that he

801
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 4: pulled last year. He's got new coaches, and I think

802
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 4: these guys will jump down his throat if they don't

803
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 4: see him hustling, now, you know, so yeah, I mean

804
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 4: on paper, Adebo and Holland are really smart, good you know,

805
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 4: twenty five, twenty six year old Silings signings. You know,

806
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 4: these are guys in their prime. We'll see if it

807
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 4: works out that way. You know, there's always a reason

808
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 4: why guys are free agents, right. George Young said that,

809
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 4: always a reason why he was a free agent. You

810
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 4: know what I mean. So we'll see. I mean, dex L.

811
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,399
Speaker 4: Lawrence never is never going to become a free agent,

812
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 4: right because he won't be allowed to. We'll see, we'll see.

813
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 4: But it's it's the guy who's who's who's cooking the

814
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 4: medians now, has got to get it right.

815
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Speaker 1: What are you thinking about with the defense?

816
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's three significant upgrades. And

817
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 2: I'll put it like this, Javon Holland over Jason Pinnock.

818
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 2: Uh And again we all I'll speak for myself, I

819
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 2: think we all liked JP what he brought to the table, waiverclaim,

820
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 2: solid player in the NFL, and still think he might

821
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 2: still be running on that interception down in Miami. You know,

822
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 2: they brought back for a pick six. But I think

823
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Speaker 2: the Holland from Pinnock is huge. I think you know,

824
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 2: I'll give you four. I think Tyler nuben year two

825
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 2: is a big upgrade from Tyler Nuban year one. Hill

826
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Speaker 2: it even a bit that I was talking to him

827
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Speaker 2: yesterday he said, my head was spinning. I had no

828
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,399
Speaker 2: idea last year. You know how fast I could play

829
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 2: Paulson Adebo to what Tay Banks was last year. In

830
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 2: year two, I think should be a significant upgrade and

831
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Speaker 2: that allows either bangs are floted to be the second

832
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 2: corner as you guys said, and Abdul Carter from Azizo Jalari.

833
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 2: I think is it as significant just based on again

834
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,800
Speaker 2: fingers crossed, he's on the field and he's healthy, because

835
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 2: that was always Easy's biggest issue. But I think that

836
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 2: upgrade in of itself when you're talking about Abdul and

837
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,399
Speaker 2: the things you can do with him versus remember last

838
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:29,399
Speaker 2: year when Shane Bowen talked about getting the three pass

839
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 2: rushers on the field, and it was the idea of

840
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 2: can we play a z's inside. They could not do

841
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 2: that with disease, So maybe that package got scrapped. That

842
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 2: maybe Bowen was willing to do, but they just didn't

843
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 2: have the personnel to do it. They're gonna do it

844
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,240
Speaker 2: this year with Abdul Carter and Brian Burns and Kevon

845
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 2: Tibeaux and Chauncey Golston. I think that edge group is

846
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 2: a significant upgrade. So I think that's why this defense

847
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 2: will be better, just because on paper they've upgraded in

848
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 2: numerous spots and then bring back everybody else that that

849
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 2: did their jobs for the most part last year.

850
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Speaker 5: And Paul ahead, miss, I'm sorry, yeah, fell all we

851
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 5: all in agreement that there's a lot of pressure on

852
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 5: Shane boning this shit to get it done because Joe. Look,

853
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 5: Joe provided him more upgrading talent. Now it's like, okay, Shane,

854
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 5: get it done. I think there's a lot of pressure

855
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 5: on Shane this year.

856
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 3: All right, So Paul, you kind of mentioned this, and

857
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Speaker 3: I'll go back to what has you guys worried about

858
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 3: the defense? What could be the pendulum swing that can

859
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 3: make this not work? And you mentioned I think Paul,

860
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Speaker 3: and I don't need to lead you into an answer

861
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,720
Speaker 3: here if you disagree with me, but you can't unleash

862
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 3: your pass rusher if it's second to three. If it's

863
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 3: started in four, you can't you know, put your you know,

864
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 3: four guys on him. They're just gonna run the ball

865
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 3: and they're gonna get a first down. So everyone keeps

866
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 3: asking me about the run defense, and my answer is

867
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 3: that we haven't seen Dexter Lawrence on the field yet

868
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 3: with the first team defense in a real situation.

869
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: So what the hell do we know what this run

870
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 1: defense is gonna look like?

871
00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 3: And I don't think we're gonna know until we get

872
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 3: until we get into that first game in a real

873
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,879
Speaker 3: situation against a real team, do you think that's going

874
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 3: to be good enough? And frankly, the authense can get

875
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 3: to seem enough leads to allow this pass rush to

876
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:13,800
Speaker 3: be everything that it could be.

877
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 4: I'm not sure, you know, I'm not afraid to say,

878
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 4: I'm not sure. You know, Art was bringing down the

879
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 4: guys who you know, this is who they have now,

880
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 4: this is who they replaced them with, which I didn't

881
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 4: think of it that way. And it's like, oh yeah,

882
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 4: when you think of it that way, big upgrade, big upgrade.

883
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,479
Speaker 4: And you mentioned Nuben now versus Nuben, then how about

884
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 4: BOBBYO Karaka twenty twenty five versus BOBBYO Karaka twenty twenty

885
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 4: four versus BOBBYO Karak twenty twenty three. Right, I mean,

886
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 4: I'm not sure what BOBBYO Karaka is is he was

887
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,320
Speaker 4: he the guy? I mean, Bobbyokarake came in and was

888
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 4: named the captain within ten minutes, right, you know what

889
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 4: I mean, and and deserved it. You know, nobody even

890
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:54,479
Speaker 4: knew who the heck he was and he was voted

891
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 4: a captain because he was such a forceful personality in

892
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 4: the locker room and in the meetings with us. And

893
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 4: then last year we know, you know, no more wing Martindale,

894
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 4: his his his sense of being to seem to dissipate,

895
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 4: you know, in front of our eyes. He was not

896
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 4: the same player. He did have a back issue, which

897
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 4: is alarming, but he says he feels better about it.

898
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 4: So what is Bobbiokaake? Because if Bobbio Caaake is one

899
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:22,399
Speaker 4: hundred and thirty five tackle guy, one hundred and forty

900
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 4: tackle guy, then okay, this run defense is gonna be

901
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 4: pretty good, you know what I mean. So I'm you know,

902
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 4: looking at him also, I mean I thought, sitting here

903
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 4: now at this time, Darius Alexander would have won a

904
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 4: starting job as a rookie. You know, I think the

905
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 4: front office and the coaching staff was looking and thinking,

906
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 4: you know what, this third round pick from Toledo. We

907
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 4: think when the summer goes through, he's going to win

908
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 4: a job. He got hurt a little bit, and he

909
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 4: did not win the starting job, you know, he did not.

910
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 4: I mean, I think Roy Robinson Harrison is going to

911
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 4: be the starting defensive tackle next to Dexter larn. That

912
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 4: doesn't mean he's not going to play, and that doesn't

913
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 4: mean he's a bust, but so you know, I thought

914
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,879
Speaker 4: he would be more horse right now. So I think

915
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 4: I'm in wait and see with the run defense, you know,

916
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, look, Dexter's we know that. I'm

917
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 4: just gonna wait and see because I I don't know,

918
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean, I mean, I'm not the

919
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 4: wait and see with the pass rush. I mean, if

920
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 4: the pass rush is not good, it's a big problem,

921
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 4: you know, if they were allowed to pass rush. But

922
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 4: the run defense, I'm you know, is Bobby Okarake, that

923
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 4: guy I mentioned, we mentioned MIKEL. McFadden, right, He's a

924
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 4: really good player, you know, he's a good player, so

925
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 4: we'll see. We'll see.

926
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 3: So, Biz, I want to jump build on that with

927
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 3: with the run defense, and you're gonna add to that.

928
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 3: Do you think we might see more base defense on

929
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 3: early downs this year where you have Nacho Lawrence and

930
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 3: Roy Robertson Harris with the two edge guys at the

931
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 3: same time.

932
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you will.

933
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 6: I mean, and then you gotta get like you before

934
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 6: we gotta get Goalston.

935
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 5: I mean. One of the reasons they bought Golston over

936
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 5: here is for run defense too.

937
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 3: Sure, Okay, were you surprised that he got listed as

938
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 3: a defensive lineman on the depth chart and not like

939
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,080
Speaker 3: it outside linebacker, which which which I thought was a

940
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 3: little interesting.

941
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 6: Yeah. I found that a little interesting too.

942
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 2: I had heard, guys that there's not to intructor you.

943
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 2: I had heard that may have been a processing thing

944
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 2: through the through the league, and that's how the that

945
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 2: if you looked at the roster, he had been listed

946
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 2: as d L all year. That's through the database that

947
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 2: Golston was a defensive lineman in Dallas, So that's how

948
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,760
Speaker 2: he's listed. So I agree with you. That definitely jumped

949
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 2: out and said, wait a minute, but I wonder if

950
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 2: it's just when they were putting together the roster they

951
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 2: just kind of spit it out and it had d

952
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 2: l and nowhere took the time to change it. Maybe

953
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 2: that that's what I had heard.

954
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 5: That's very very possible.

955
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 6: Very it's very possible.

956
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 5: But but John, you know, getting back to the run defense,

957
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 5: that's why he brought That's why Shane Boyd, Roy Robinson, Harrison,

958
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:46,399
Speaker 5: Georgy Golston over here.

959
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 6: But a run defense, and.

960
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 5: We're gonna have to see how how it turns out,

961
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 5: because right now that's still a question mark, you know.

962
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 6: And you could, like Paul was saying before, you know, you.

963
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 5: Could have all these set carters on the field all

964
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:57,359
Speaker 5: you want.

965
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 6: They were in third, three, third, four's all the time.

966
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 5: It's not to mean anything, man, I mean, the run

967
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 5: defense has been a big issue the last two years.

968
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 5: If they don't get that straightened out, I don't care

969
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 5: how many guys you have on a feel to get

970
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 5: to the quarterback, it's not gonna matter.

971
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 2: I have a defensive tackle that we haven't mentioned that

972
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 2: had really impressed me the last three weeks of the summer.

973
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 6: And ya, I know you go with this, so I

974
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 6: know where you go with this.

975
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 2: DJ Davidson is somebody that I know they really like

976
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,879
Speaker 2: that has had his issues with inconsistency and everything else.

977
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 2: And I'm not trying to make him out to be again,

978
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 2: not a frontline player, but one of those things. You know,

979
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 2: I think of DJ Davidson, I think of like Daniel Bellinger.

980
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 2: The value of him is much more internal than it

981
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 2: is external. People aren't going to look at DJ Davidson

982
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden say, we got to get

983
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 2: this guy on our roster. But I think Davidson shouldn't

984
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 2: be forgotten in this mix. I think that's why Elijah

985
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 2: Chapman ended up on the practice squad is because Davidson

986
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,320
Speaker 2: is one of those guys that in early downs you

987
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,240
Speaker 2: could see them putting him in the base and saying,

988
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 2: you know what, try to run at this guy. You

989
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like run at these guys and

990
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 2: we have some muscle, some beef up front, rather than

991
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 2: them taking their shots at trying to run at you know,

992
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 2: Abdulah at defensive tackle or Elijah Chapman or you know,

993
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 2: anyone else that they may try to just stick in there.

994
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 2: So he's another guy that I think David's in the

995
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 2: last couple of weeks has kind of flown under the radar.

996
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 2: I think they're really happy with how he kind of

997
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 2: came out of the spring, coming back from an injury

998
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 2: and played really well the last couple of weeks.

999
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 4: And you don't know what and you know what else,

1000
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 4: I mean, this is going to mitigate the having these guys,

1001
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 4: these edge rushers on the field too much. I really

1002
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 4: think that's going to be where they're gassed in the

1003
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 4: fourth quarter, right, you know, where they they're playing too

1004
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 4: many snaps. I mean, I mean, I don't think it's crazy.

1005
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 4: I mean, it's probably not true, but I don't think

1006
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 4: it's crazy that the first snap on defense, Brian Burns

1007
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,399
Speaker 4: is not on the field and Golston is. I don't

1008
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 4: think that's insane, you know, I mean, I mean, it

1009
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 4: probably won't happen. I just think that they're a cognizant

1010
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 4: of we're not you know, kvon and and and Burns

1011
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 4: do not have to play ninety percent of the snaps anymore.

1012
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 1: Eighty Yeah, have him at seventy, right.

1013
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 4: You know, you know what I mean, just just and

1014
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:16,879
Speaker 4: so when they really need it in the fourth quarter,

1015
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 4: God forbid, they have a lead, right and and they

1016
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 4: can play that way that they're fresh. So I think

1017
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 4: you know that's part of this manipulation now is who

1018
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 4: goes where? And then what's gonna happen is, look, you

1019
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 4: can get burned that way right all of a sudden,

1020
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 4: you know, a play goes bust and Art or or

1021
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 4: Biz or me not you, John, you won't do this.

1022
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 4: You know, as as in print or you know, says

1023
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,800
Speaker 4: why was this guy on the field? You know that

1024
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 4: was a bad matchup? Why was he on the field?

1025
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 2: Why wasn't Dexter Lawrence on the field? How many times

1026
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,359
Speaker 2: have we said that? And as of those things where

1027
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 2: it's like you gotta give the guy a break. You

1028
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 2: can't play one.

1029
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 5: Hundred, you can't play sixty game.

1030
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 4: Why wasn't Brian Burns on the field. Why Golston on

1031
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 4: the field during that play? Well, because you know, for

1032
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 4: that screen pass or whatever that went bust? So you know,

1033
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,720
Speaker 4: I mean, you can get too cute here with this stuff.

1034
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 4: But they do have more depth and you don't. There's

1035
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,320
Speaker 4: no reason to have depth just because you're waiting for

1036
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 4: guys to get hurt. You know, maybe DJ Davison can

1037
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 4: be a guy on the third series on defense. You

1038
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 4: put them out there for decks, right, you put them

1039
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 4: out there for decks, and it's not it's not just okay,

1040
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 4: it's it's it's you know, it's it's the Cross Bronx

1041
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 4: Express away at two in the morning. Let's just, you know,

1042
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 4: the only time where it's open. So maybe maybe that

1043
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 4: can work. I mean, that's what you need. You can't

1044
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 4: wear these guys down too much, even though you have

1045
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 4: to lean on them.

1046
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 1: If you want to know how to manage two minutes

1047
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:43,359
Speaker 1: of crunch time football, I'm your man.

1048
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 7: But if you're wondering about a long term financial plan,

1049
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:47,320
Speaker 7: you should talk to citizens.

1050
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 1: Hey, I can also talk long care.

1051
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 7: I'd like to learn about amiliar team. Yes, I knew

1052
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 7: I could help make sense of your money with citizens.

1053
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,359
Speaker 6: So Paul first and ten. Next week, first and ten.

1054
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 6: Washington's got the ball. Who do you have about you?

1055
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 6: Up front? You have the base?

1056
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 5: You have you do you have a Nacho Decks where

1057
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,280
Speaker 5: Robinson Harrison look with burns and tips.

1058
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 4: I think so, because I think you have.

1059
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,879
Speaker 3: I'm not sure as Washing Washington doesn't run it though

1060
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 3: they're gonna have all these receivers out there.

1061
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're gonna have big personnel.

1062
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:21,320
Speaker 2: And I think that's the big thing. John, you nailed it.

1063
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 2: Look at their schedule early on. Look at their schedule.

1064
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 2: Who's especially after Washington just got just traded away Brian

1065
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 2: Robinson Junior last week. The reality is that, yeah, I

1066
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 2: know they have crosskey merit that you know Bill that

1067
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 2: everyone wants to talking. If they're gonna come out and

1068
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 2: give him thirty carries, I think the Giants will say, Okay,

1069
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 2: that's great, we'd rather have that. So to me, I'm

1070
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 2: looking at it going if the Giants defense, the run

1071
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 2: defense is so much of an Achilles heel, and you

1072
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:55,919
Speaker 2: could make teams like Washington and Dallas and Kansas City,

1073
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 2: those first three want to just come out and try

1074
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:02,359
Speaker 2: to run the football at you. You know what, I'll

1075
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 2: take that. I'd rather have that than have Jade and

1076
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 2: Daniels running all around like he did last year. And

1077
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:11,839
Speaker 2: you know, then all of a sudden, Dak Prescott when

1078
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 2: I'm going to Dallas, I'm worried about Dak and the

1079
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 2: receivers and how am I going to cover these guys?

1080
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 2: And Dak gets the ball out quick, I'm not worried about.

1081
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 2: You know, it's no more emmittt Smith, Ezekiel Elliott. You

1082
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 2: know guys that Dallas is gonna run the football with.

1083
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 2: So it's a very interesting aspect of this is that

1084
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 2: the Giants may want teams to test their run defense

1085
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 2: because then it takes them away from their strength, and

1086
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:37,720
Speaker 2: I think their strength. Uh, you know, Busy, you mentioned

1087
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 2: just the last thing I thought of. Abdul Carter could

1088
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 2: be an off the ball linebacker starting the game in Washington.

1089
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 2: And you know what, Abdull, you're gonna You're gonna be

1090
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 2: the guy that's spying Jayden Daniels and you're on the field,

1091
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 2: and we trust your instincts and your your goal is

1092
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 2: number five. You watch number five. You tell me, we

1093
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 2: got our guys, we know who's gonna rush, We got

1094
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,919
Speaker 2: their responsibilities. We want Abdul to be off the ball,

1095
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 2: use his instincts, use his vision, and just say wherever

1096
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 2: Daniels goes, get them.

1097
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: And I think the third down maybe, are we really

1098
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 1: see him? You get used as an off ball linebacker

1099
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 1: on early downs in camp.

1100
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 2: That's not something you see more than us. But do

1101
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 2: you really think they've shown everything?

1102
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 1: John, No, of course not.

1103
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 2: And I think that's the thing, is that the fact

1104
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 2: that they've shown it wouldn't surprise me to see it

1105
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 2: out there right off the bat, the idea of give

1106
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:34,919
Speaker 2: Washington something that they weren't anticipating and see how it works,

1107
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 2: you know, and if it's a failure on the first drive,

1108
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 2: well then you shelve it and you do something else.

1109
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 2: But I think they cannot also go into a game

1110
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,439
Speaker 2: where they're putting their best players on the sideline either.

1111
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 2: I mean, that's the hard part. And it goes back

1112
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:52,319
Speaker 2: to Shane Bowen. I mean, I know it circles back,

1113
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 2: but you know, this defensive staff has to be cognizant

1114
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 2: of the fact that these are our best players. What

1115
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 2: can we do to max their talents, give them breaks,

1116
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 2: give them ideas that they're not not at one hundred

1117
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 2: percent snap count, but also what are their best talents

1118
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 2: Where can they fit best. You're not gonna want to

1119
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:14,280
Speaker 2: put Abdul first and ten from the twenty at defensive tackle,

1120
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 2: but we got to also have Abdul Carter on the field.

1121
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 2: I mean, if Abdul Carter is this good, we got

1122
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 2: to maximize as snaps. And I think that's kind of

1123
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 2: that back and forth that they're gonna have to go

1124
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 2: through week to week. It really is a week to

1125
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 2: week thing based on the opponent.

1126
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 3: All right, let's let's wrap your boys. I'm not gonna

1127
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 3: ask for a wins prediction. We've all looked dumb enough

1128
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 3: over the past five years trying to play that game.

1129
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 3: But give me some type of what you think this

1130
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:43,240
Speaker 3: season is going to look like something that you're watching.

1131
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 3: Just you're kind of a big overarching thought about what

1132
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 3: this season is going to look like. What's important? Anywhere

1133
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 3: you want to go, I'll start here with mine. Look,

1134
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 3: you just got to figure out a way when to

1135
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 3: win one of those first two games. And people of

1136
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 3: that listen programming here, they're tired of me saying this.

1137
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 3: The last thing you want to do is come into

1138
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 3: your home building at oh and two oh into in

1139
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 3: the division and you're staring at Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelsey,

1140
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 3: Chris Jones, and Taylor Swift like that is not what

1141
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 3: you want to be looking at. In week three at

1142
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 3: oh and two, you gets you got to figure out

1143
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 3: a way to win one of these division games on

1144
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:16,839
Speaker 3: the road.

1145
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 1: I think both teams have vulnerabilities.

1146
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 3: I think it's possible and you just have to get

1147
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 3: off to a reasonably good start this year for the

1148
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 3: path for what this season, if it goes well, is

1149
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 3: going to look like it has to start well early

1150
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 3: in some way, shape or form.

1151
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 1: So that's where I'll go. Uh, Paul, I'll let you

1152
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 1: lead off here. Arth and Biz.

1153
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 3: Just give me some overarching thoughts here. You want to

1154
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 3: make a prediction, you can of kind of well. Season

1155
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 3: for the Giants is going.

1156
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 6: To bait Schwartz can't wait the week three John.

1157
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 5: He can't wait to meet tailor Swift. That's what I heard.

1158
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 5: I have he's looking phone to tail.

1159
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 4: I have someone in my family who's already trying to

1160
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 4: figure out just do you have access Do you have

1161
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 4: access to the suits there? I think she might be

1162
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,800
Speaker 4: sitting in the Jets suite. Do you have access to

1163
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:07,359
Speaker 4: the sweets? I'm like, oh, Bullieve, yeah, that is early

1164
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:11,879
Speaker 4: season pressure. I'm telling you, yeah, that is early season pressure. Look,

1165
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,359
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna I understand. I mean I can look

1166
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 4: at the schedule two and say you can't be owing

1167
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 4: to then you have the chiefs. I'm gonna take a

1168
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 4: bigger picture. Okay, this is not an unseerious roster Okay,

1169
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 4: this is not a fly by night situation anymore. It's

1170
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 4: time to win some games, okay, and by some I'm

1171
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:36,399
Speaker 4: not saying ten. I'm not saying nine. I'm not saying eight.

1172
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:38,439
Speaker 4: I'm not saying eleven. I don't know what I'm saying.

1173
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 4: I'm not saying three, okay, and I'm probably not saying

1174
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 4: six either. This roster, I can this roster is better

1175
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 4: than last year's. Art just went this guy, this guy,

1176
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 4: this guy, this guy. This roster is better. Okay. There

1177
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 4: is no reason why this defense is not a top

1178
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 4: ten defense in the league. There is no reason. I mean,

1179
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 4: there's just no reason for it. We think the quarterbacks

1180
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:01,919
Speaker 4: are better. We think the offensive line is better.

1181
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 6: You know.

1182
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 4: I don't think anyone's thinking that the skilled position guys

1183
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:09,360
Speaker 4: are bonkers, but we think they're okay, you know, potentially

1184
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 4: better than okay.

1185
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 1: And they have a real number.

1186
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:12,839
Speaker 3: One of the elite neighbors who haven't talked a lot

1187
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 3: about by the way, he could have an absolutely monster year.

1188
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he's yes, he's he's you know, I mean,

1189
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 4: fantasy football whatever, he's he's the first guy on the

1190
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 4: Giants who's taken you know, in fantasy football, and you

1191
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 4: know what, is it going to be number three? Is

1192
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 4: it going to be number eight? Whatever it's gonna be,

1193
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 4: it's gonna be. It's gonna be high right, fine, And

1194
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 4: they have a quarterback and we think and can you know,

1195
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 4: get him the ball in some some way shape or form.

1196
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 4: But I'm just looking at this and I'm saying, this

1197
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 4: can't be that again. You know, this can't be one

1198
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 4: in six. I mean, if it's owing to it's own two,

1199
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 4: it's not good, you know what I mean, It's not good.

1200
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 4: But it can't be owned five, you know it Just

1201
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 4: this is a team that needs to win. This is

1202
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 4: a front office that needs to win. It's a coaching

1203
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 4: staff that needs to win. You know, I'm not putting

1204
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:57,240
Speaker 4: hot seats on anybody.

1205
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 5: We know this.

1206
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 4: That Jackson Dart specter at there, you know what I mean.

1207
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:03,320
Speaker 4: But you know I thought, Jackson Dart, I'll leave you

1208
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 4: with this. Jackson Dart, you know, was really remarkable on

1209
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 4: the podium, on the field, on the practice field. I

1210
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 4: mean he really was. You know, it's like, really this

1211
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 4: guy was. I mean, this guy's hitting everything here. When

1212
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 4: he said after that game where he started and played

1213
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 4: really well right against the Patriots, and he said it's

1214
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:23,919
Speaker 4: time for me, you know, And we were all leading

1215
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 4: him with the questions, you know, you think you should play,

1216
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 4: you know, how is it going to feel to sit

1217
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 4: now after this great summer? And he said, it's time

1218
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 4: for me to change my perspective. Right that he told

1219
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 4: us what he said, it's time for me to change

1220
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 4: my perspective. And I was thinking, holy smokes, he's right.

1221
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 4: He's telling me what I should do. It's time for

1222
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 4: me to change my perspective. We put him away for now,

1223
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 4: and it's Russell Wilson, and it's about the commander's week one,

1224
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 4: Russell Wilson and this team trying to play and win.

1225
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 4: And that's it's time for this whole operation to change

1226
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 4: its perspective. They're not sad sacks anymore. It's a decent

1227
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 4: roster and they have to in some games. And that's

1228
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 4: whatever prediction you want to make of that big at

1229
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 4: the end of this year, there's no reason why this

1230
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 4: group shouldn't say we got something cooking. You know, I'm

1231
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 4: looking forward to twenty twenty six as opposed to my god,

1232
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 4: I couldn't wait for the twenty twenty five to be over.

1233
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 5: Art.

1234
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 2: I think it's it's all about the panic button and

1235
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 2: doing enough so that the only people who are pressing

1236
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 2: the panic button are people who want to see you

1237
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 2: fail this year. And I think for the Giants, Paul,

1238
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 2: you mentioned the Jackson Dart thing. Jet halftime of Week one,

1239
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 2: people are going to be talking about is a time

1240
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 2: for Jackson Dart. If Russell Wilson throws a pick or

1241
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 2: they only have three points. That is the overarching storyline

1242
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 2: for this season is that people see Jackson Dart's presence

1243
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 2: as a parachute of sorts for the coaching staff, for

1244
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 2: the front office that well, if they put Jackson Dart in,

1245
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 2: even if they're struggling, you can look at the future

1246
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 2: and say, look we got a guy, we got our guy.

1247
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 2: You panic too soon and you put him in too

1248
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 2: soon and he doesn't look good, kind of takes away

1249
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 2: your parachute. You know, there is no failsafe there. So

1250
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 2: I think that is the challenge. Whether it's not internal,

1251
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 2: I think it's externally. They need to fight that off

1252
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 2: as long as they possibly can, and that comes with

1253
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 2: winning games. Like you guys said, because it's not going

1254
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 2: to be easy. It's easy when you're winning games to

1255
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 2: tune out the people who are criticizing you. It's not

1256
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 2: easy to tune out criticism, and you know, people slamming

1257
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 2: you if you're not winning games and you're losing games

1258
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 2: and you're not producing the way you need to. And

1259
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 2: I do think that that does start at the quarterback.

1260
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 2: And I think Russell Wilson is the one who's probably

1261
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 2: under the most pressure starting the year is because everybody

1262
00:59:57,160 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 2: saw what Jackson did this summer. Everybody he knows where

1263
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 2: the future is. The writing's on the wall. Russell Wilson

1264
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 2: has to keep that at arm's length, and he does

1265
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 2: that by the Giants winning games and Russell Wilson playing

1266
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 2: well at quarterback because I think internally there are a

1267
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 2: lot of players in this locker room who believe Jackson's

1268
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 2: time will come. But this is Russell's team.

1269
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 5: Absolutely.

1270
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 2: That can change quickly if things are not going well,

1271
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 2: because all of a sudden, you're looking for answer, and

1272
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 2: then you look at that locker over there and you

1273
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 2: see number six and you say, hmm, is he our

1274
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 2: answer to turn this around? You don't want that question

1275
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 2: in October. You don't want that question in September. If

1276
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson could push that question by leading this team

1277
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 2: to wins until December and after Thanksgiving and then you

1278
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 2: see where you're at. I think that's kind of what

1279
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 2: this season is all about.

1280
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 1: I Diz wrap us up.

1281
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, I hate to agree with a Mets fan and

1282
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 5: boll Schwartz, you know, because I'll still never forgive him

1283
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 5: for eighty six and that lucky World Series win for

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Speaker 5: his team. But look, you gotta win some games. This

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Speaker 5: roster is the best roster Joe Shane has had in

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Speaker 5: his four years. John better than even the playoff roster.

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Speaker 6: This is a better roster.

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Speaker 5: And this it brought in Russell Wilson, a guy that's

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Speaker 5: going to camp one day, Okay, So you gotta win

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Speaker 5: some games, no question about it. You don't want to

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Speaker 5: start off that zero to four, one in five type record,

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Speaker 5: because like God said that, a hip comes to Jackson,

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Speaker 5: dark questions, a million of them. By week three, week four,

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01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 5: it's all everybody's gonna be talking about. So, hey, you

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Speaker 5: brought in Russell Wilson to win games.

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Speaker 6: You upgrade the roster.

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Speaker 5: Like I just said, this is Joe's bet. Joe Shane's

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Speaker 5: best roster the four years is yere. You have to

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Speaker 5: win some games, no question about it. You want to

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01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 5: like and like Aunt just said too, you want to

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Speaker 5: be around Thanksgiving, okay, talking about Giants football, talking about

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01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:56,920
Speaker 5: meaningful games. It's gonna be so important to do that.

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01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 5: You don't want to have that. You know, your family

1304
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 5: sitting around you, sitting around Thanksgiving dinner saying yeah, another

1305
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:05,920
Speaker 5: year we've done useless December. No, you want to have

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01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 5: meetingful football, but the end of them going into December,

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Speaker 5: that's gonna be so important for this organization. That's something

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01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:15,560
Speaker 5: you have to keep it. Onye Let Russell Wilson, this

1309
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 5: is like Art just said, this is Russell Wilson's team.

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Speaker 5: Forget about the Jackson darts stuff. Now this is Russell's team.

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Speaker 5: Get some wins. Try to get a split out of

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Speaker 5: the first two games. Because John's funny because when the

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01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 5: schedule came out in May, nobody had the Giants winning

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Speaker 5: for any of the first two games. First three games, right,

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Speaker 5: different story. Now they change really quick.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I guess you could say four with the charges too.

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Speaker 5: You're right on. Hey, now it's a different story. Dallas

1318
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 5: is a mess. We all know what's going on in Washington.

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Speaker 6: Will see in the year.

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Speaker 5: Two they just got the Terry situation resolved. But John

1321
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 5: got to get a couple wins early in the season.

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01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 5: Get some wins, you know, don't don't don't start that

1323
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:56,760
Speaker 5: oh four and five stuff and taken from there. So

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01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 5: hopefully that's you get some wins he got Russell, and

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Speaker 5: we'll see what.

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Speaker 1: Gentleman, same Water. Thank you for doing this. I know

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01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 1: Paul Aready kind of did this once, but he can

1328
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 1: do it again. Promote what you want to promote. The

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01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 1: floor is yours, mister Schwartz, aren't then biz.

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Speaker 4: What I want to promote? Well? Post Sports plus, New

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01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 4: York Post dot Com, New York Post newspaper edition. We're

1332
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Speaker 4: starting a California Post fairly soon, so you can you

1333
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 4: can based out of LA how about that? Maybe I'll

1334
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 4: go cover the the the Rams.

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Speaker 1: Is it going to be called the California Post of

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Speaker 1: the Los Angeles.

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Speaker 4: Post California Posts.

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01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 1: Oh okay, so it's statewide.

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Speaker 4: Okay, but I'm not really promoting that so much yet

1340
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 4: because I'm really based in New York here. You know,

1341
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 4: you know what, No, this is fun. I enjoy this

1342
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 4: every year business A newcomer to this, and you know,

1343
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 4: we all compete, and we all you know, bust each other,

1344
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:50,880
Speaker 4: and we you know, kid around and everything like that.

1345
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 4: But I think I hope everyone else does. I think

1346
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 4: we all make ourselves better, We make each other better,

1347
01:03:57,240 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 4: and I think we you know, I don't know if

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01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 4: there's any day that I go out there and when

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Speaker 4: I don't laugh with one of these one of these

1350
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 4: two or three guys at least once, you know what

1351
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 4: I mean, And that's that's good, you know what I mean,

1352
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 4: that's good in his crazy world. It's good to you know,

1353
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. There's plenty of people who

1354
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:19,800
Speaker 4: don't do that. So yeah, And by the way, I

1355
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 4: was at Game seven in eighty six, this up in

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01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 4: the stands.

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Speaker 1: I was there. I was there.

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Speaker 3: Okay, congratulations A very deep and profound answer from from

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01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:36,960
Speaker 3: from Paul Schwartz there.

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Speaker 1: I like that.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what happened with that. You can edit

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01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 4: that out if you want, and I can just say

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01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:44,920
Speaker 4: something else.

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Speaker 3: But okay, no, I think we've seen a different side

1365
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 3: of the Paul Sorts personality.

1366
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Speaker 1: I like that. How about you?

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01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 5: Art?

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Speaker 1: Is your is your landscaping done behind you? They've done? Okay?

1369
01:04:55,840 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 2: Good? You know where you want to talk California po today,

1370
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:03,160
Speaker 2: we got the USA today. We're all a USA baby.

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01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:08,480
Speaker 2: North Jersey dot Com print editions of the record obviously

1372
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:14,480
Speaker 2: and are all in with Art Stableton Podcast year five,

1373
01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:18,640
Speaker 2: which is amazing that we've done it this long. So

1374
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 2: much appreciated to everyone who enjoys our coverage and always

1375
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 2: to you guys and to John thanks for having us on.

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Speaker 2: This is always a fun thing and bye week. Didn't

1377
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 2: we do what we do it on bye week? Don't

1378
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:32,880
Speaker 2: we where the rest of the season is? Don't we

1379
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 2: have In the past? Every year it's always been, well,

1380
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:38,680
Speaker 2: you said they would win this many games and guess

1381
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:42,960
Speaker 2: what now the last There's one thing that the Giants

1382
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 2: need to lose this year. That's the bookmark and everybody's

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01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:50,120
Speaker 2: search engine for Tankathon.

1384
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Speaker 6: Lose it.

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Speaker 2: You have to lose it. The Giants have to earn

1386
01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 2: the right to not be involved with Tankathon in dec

1387
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:02,960
Speaker 2: because that's where the fan base has been and they've

1388
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 2: been conditioned to go there and see where are they

1389
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:07,880
Speaker 2: going to be picking in the next draft?

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Speaker 1: Yes or right?

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01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 3: Please don't don't make me start breaking down the opponent's

1392
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 3: with average winning percentage for tiebreaker purposes for draft picks.

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Speaker 2: Please, we've done way too much of that over the

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Speaker 2: last fifteen years or I don't even know how long

1395
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 2: Tankathon has existed, but yeah, that would be my parting shot.

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Speaker 2: Go away Takathon earn the right to not be included

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Speaker 2: in Tankathon when everyone is pumping up their traffic on

1398
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Speaker 2: the website to see where they're going to be drafting

1399
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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 5: All right, biz, yeah, John, First of all, thank you

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Speaker 5: for having me on, and Paul brings up a good point.

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Speaker 7: Man.

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Speaker 6: We just you know, so many times we.

1404
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Speaker 5: Just standing there and watching practice. Somebody we just enjoy

1405
01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:51,000
Speaker 5: I have a last we ought all other guys and

1406
01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:53,920
Speaker 5: it's so important today, right, So he Schwartz will continue

1407
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:56,440
Speaker 5: this conversation about the Mets what I see in person?

1408
01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 2: Okay, your finger down, you know all right?

1409
01:06:59,880 --> 01:07:02,360
Speaker 1: I love how the thing it's the Red Sox Mets

1410
01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:05,800
Speaker 1: rival the Yankees crazy, you.

1411
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:07,760
Speaker 2: Know, right, job, you got.

1412
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 5: Armust breaking my chops in April, and then all of

1413
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 5: a sudden he's faded with that. I don't hear much

1414
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:20,960
Speaker 5: of him anymore so anyway, football season, yeah, right, so hey,

1415
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:22,680
Speaker 5: you can find you know, me and Jerry falling the

1416
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:25,720
Speaker 5: Giant's side of the podcast, and of course you can

1417
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:29,600
Speaker 5: find me and Bob Popper on the Magic Cast talking

1418
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 5: a lot of good food, a lot of good football.

1419
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Speaker 1: So to bring any pasta today, Biz, what's going on?

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Speaker 6: Man?

1421
01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 1: What's going on here?

1422
01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:40,160
Speaker 5: It's nine in the morning.

1423
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Speaker 6: John, you know you know what I mean?

1424
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 1: So little sandwich, maybe come on give me something here.

1425
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:49,520
Speaker 5: I should have put the English muffin I eight. But anyway, Hey,

1426
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Speaker 5: thanks everybody.

1427
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Speaker 6: Hey, it's been a blast. Hey, let's hope we have

1428
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Speaker 6: a really a.

1429
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Speaker 5: Really good season. Something that's everybody wants to talk about it.

1430
01:07:57,640 --> 01:08:00,320
Speaker 5: Like I just said, no tank on tour at the

1431
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 5: end of in December and all that.

1432
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Speaker 6: So hey, let's have a good season. Thanks. It was

1433
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Speaker 6: a blessed being on with.

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Speaker 3: Everybody, gentlemen, from your lips to God's ears, Thank you

1435
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:10,439
Speaker 3: gentlemen for doing this right here on the Giants Little

1436
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:12,919
Speaker 3: Podcast or annual Riders Roundtable to previe the season. Brought

1437
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 3: to you by Citizens Official Banking the Giants for Paul

1438
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 3: for Art for Biz from the Hackensack Marine Hell Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Do you keep getting better? I'm John Schmilk. We will

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Speaker 1: see you next time. Everybody