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Speaker 2: No matter how many messed up things you've seen in

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Speaker 2: They used to tell me Flintstone vitamins worked. Did they work?

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Speaker 1: Big ten schedule stuff. Got that on the show tonight.

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Speaker 2: We're not running this show out of a broom closet

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Speaker 2: For some people that's more fun. You know my stance

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Speaker 2: I know all the follow ups to that. The follow

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Speaker 2: And there may be like five percent fringe on either side.

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Speaker 2: person there from Mobile, Alabama hit us up. He said,

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Speaker 2: what are some of the quarterback battles to watch this spring? Okay?

436
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Speaker 2: I got five situations I'm watching. I don't think all

437
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Speaker 2: these are battles. You're from Mobile. Got to talk about Alabama.

438
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Speaker 2: I have done some digging the shovels over here in

439
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Speaker 2: the corner. I think ty Simpson's the overwhelming favorite to

440
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Speaker 2: win that starting job. I know there's going to be

441
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Speaker 2: a lot of talk as there should be about the

442
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Speaker 2: fact that Debor when he was at Washington, he recruited

443
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Speaker 2: Austin Mack and Ryan Grubb was there and they recruited

444
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Speaker 2: Austin Mack, and so you know, they've worked with him,

445
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Speaker 2: they know who he is. And now he's transferred to

446
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Speaker 2: Alabama and he's been there a year.

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Speaker 1: I know all that.

448
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Speaker 2: Knowing all that, I'm telling you, I think it's ty

449
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,200
Speaker 2: Simpson's job to lose.

450
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Speaker 1: And he could lose it.

451
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Speaker 2: That's what God invented spring football for, so he could

452
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Speaker 2: lose it. I mean, once upon a time, Jalen Hurts

453
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Speaker 2: was going to have to wait his turn, and Blake

454
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Speaker 2: Barnett was going to be the starter, and then he wasn't. However,

455
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Speaker 2: if I were at FanDuel and FanDuel was sick enough

456
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Speaker 2: to put odds on who the starting quarterback is going

457
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Speaker 2: to be in February, ty Simpson minus six fifty or so.

458
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Speaker 2: That's That's where I'm putting the money right now. I

459
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Speaker 2: like ty Simpson to win that job at Notre Dame.

460
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Speaker 2: No portal pickup. It's been pretty normal for them to

461
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Speaker 2: go to the portal. Last couple of cycles. Steve Angelli,

462
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Speaker 2: you see him there we got CJ. Carr in the mix,

463
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Speaker 2: We got Kenny Mitchie in the mix. I think most

464
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Speaker 2: people around the program and tell you pretty strong lean

465
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Speaker 2: to Angelly. We saw him come in the Penn State

466
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Speaker 2: game and we were right there watching it, and he

467
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Speaker 2: looked good.

468
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Speaker 1: Now, what do we make of a driver or two?

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Speaker 1: Who knows?

470
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Speaker 2: But I think the pretty overwhelm sentiment around there going

471
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Speaker 2: into spring at least is that's his job to lose.

472
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Speaker 2: But again, competition is a great thing, and it's not

473
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Speaker 2: so overwhelming at many of these places that it's a

474
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Speaker 2: formality like I wouldn't classify it as that. At Colorado,

475
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Speaker 2: this one will be up in the air. So when

476
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Speaker 2: Juju Lewis went there, when he committed there, you know,

477
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Speaker 2: the thinking is, Okay, Schudour's gone to the NFL draft,

478
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Speaker 2: Juju Lewis commits, five star quarterback, etc.

479
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Speaker 1: And so he'll be the starter. He'll just start as

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Speaker 1: a freshman. I think that.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to say he was promised that. I

482
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Speaker 2: don't know the details of his recruitment, but it seemed

483
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Speaker 2: like he was under the impression that would be the case. Again,

484
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Speaker 2: I don't speak firsthand there. And then Caden Salter transferred

485
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Speaker 2: from Liberty Now in twenty twenty three. Salter lit it

486
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Speaker 2: up in twenty twenty four, much different story. I thought

487
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 2: something was wrong with him last year, not confide to

488
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Speaker 2: my knowledge, they didn't conf that, But you know, like

489
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Speaker 2: we didn't have it confirmed quote unquote that quinn Ewers

490
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 2: was hurt at Texas this year. But yet I kept

491
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Speaker 2: winking and nodding at you every week when I talked

492
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Speaker 2: about Texas because everyone behind the scenes knew quinn Ewers

493
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Speaker 2: was hurt. It's just Sark never confirmed it, so we

494
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Speaker 2: didn't really say it. Well, I don't know that they

495
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 2: ever confirmed that Kayden Salter was hurt. But if he

496
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Speaker 2: wasn't hurt, then there's got to be some other explanation

497
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Speaker 2: from why he dipped precipitously in production this past year.

498
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Speaker 2: So he goes to Colorado. If he regains that twenty

499
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Speaker 2: twenty three form, i'd expect him to be able to

500
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Speaker 2: start there, But it'll be a good battle to watch

501
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Speaker 2: Ohio State. I don't know that that's a battle, Like

502
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Speaker 2: I really expect Julian Sahan to be the starting quarterback there.

503
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Speaker 2: Former five star guy commits to Bama. Sabin leaves, he

504
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Speaker 2: transfers to Ohio State. He's on the team last year,

505
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Speaker 2: so he's not a true freshman. He'd just be a

506
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Speaker 2: first year starter. Tavian Saint Clair is a monster man.

507
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Speaker 2: We watched both of these guys the last two years

508
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Speaker 2: out in California at Elite eleven. Saint Clair, Hey, look,

509
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Speaker 2: here's the way I would look at that. If he

510
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Speaker 2: started as a true freshman, that would mean he beat

511
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Speaker 2: out another stud, which means he's an extreme stud an ES.

512
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Speaker 2: I think that's recruiting terminology, scouting terminator. I'm sure Jordan

513
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 2: Reid's saying that a lot in Indianapolis this week in

514
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Speaker 2: ES got him classified as an extreme stud. So I'm

515
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Speaker 2: saying Julian's saying, until otherwise noted. Now you've got an

516
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Speaker 2: offensive coordinator change there. So Chip Kelly's out the door,

517
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 2: heartline elevated. Ryan Day says he's calling the plays, it's

518
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Speaker 2: his offense. There's still familiarity there, no matter what I'm

519
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Speaker 2: going Julian saying. At Michigan, the big question, the multi

520
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Speaker 2: million dollar question, literally is will Bryce Underwood start as

521
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Speaker 2: a true freshman. He doesn't have to. Mikey Keanes on

522
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Speaker 2: the roster. He has started many many games. He played

523
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Speaker 2: at UCF, he's played at Fresno. So it's a good situation.

524
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Speaker 2: You've got an experienced guy of a veteran guy, and

525
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 2: that's that makes your floor not so low. But the

526
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Speaker 2: ceiling is of course with Bryce Underwood, and he looked

527
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Speaker 2: different to me than any player that's come out of

528
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Speaker 2: high school the last few cycles. It was a huge

529
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 2: deal when he decommitted from LSU. Now we get to

530
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Speaker 2: find out. See the question that you've you've found out

531
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Speaker 2: with coaches a lot is if you pay coaches more money,

532
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 2: does the fan base expect quicker results.

533
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Speaker 1: The answer is a resounding yes.

534
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Speaker 2: Is that a fair way to look at roster construction

535
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 2: and team chemistry and whatnot? Not necessarily, but it hasn't

536
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,919
Speaker 2: mattered well now with the players. Since the players are

537
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 2: getting paid this much money, especially at quarterback, you will

538
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,400
Speaker 2: have a lot of people who say, well, you don't

539
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 2: have time to develop anymore. We're not paying you to

540
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 2: sit on the bench and develop. You could pay the

541
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Speaker 2: guy five million dollars. You could pay him five billion dollars.

542
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 2: His evolution as a player is going to be what

543
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Speaker 2: it's going to be. You don't get to toss him

544
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 2: in the microwave just because you paid a lot of

545
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 2: money for him, you know, And even just saying that sentence,

546
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 2: I feel kind of gross. But it's college football right now.

547
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 2: It's okay, Hey, good for everybody. We're all making money now.

548
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,360
Speaker 2: Next up, a tough part of the show. Probably won't

549
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 2: have director Colin clip this for the YouTube channel, so

550
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Speaker 2: you know, this is just going to kind of live

551
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 2: in the live show or the long form show, and

552
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 2: if you listen to the whole thing, it's your reward.

553
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 2: I am not perfect, yep. So since we do the

554
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Speaker 2: show live, there's no editing. We can't go back and

555
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 2: cut stuff out, and it makes it all It makes

556
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 2: it easier, but it makes it more difficult in moments

557
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 2: like these. So San Jose State not San Jose State,

558
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 2: Oh no, yeah, Sam Houston State, one of the states

559
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 2: the other day caught astray on the show. They didn't

560
00:28:54,920 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 2: deserve it. It wasn't intentional, but many of you have

561
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 2: let me hear about it. Kats on Top hits me

562
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 2: up and he asks, will you apologize to the sam

563
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 2: Houston State fans for saying we're in the FCS. Yes,

564
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 2: I will apologize for saying that Sam Houston is in

565
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 2: the FCS. They elevated to the glorious levels of the FBS.

566
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Speaker 2: Two years ago they went ten and three. Last year

567
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 2: they went to a Bowl game. Hardy golf clap for

568
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 2: everyone involved. The other night, flippantly, I was making a point,

569
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Speaker 2: I think about strength of schedule or something like that.

570
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 2: I just needed a name to pop in my mind

571
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Speaker 2: really quick, and Sam Houston State popped in my mind.

572
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 2: And yes, because they've been FCS my whole life, I

573
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 2: mistakenly just mentioned them as an example of an FCS team.

574
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Speaker 1: I think bigger.

575
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Speaker 2: And more egregious crimes have been committed in my lifetime,

576
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Speaker 2: But this one I got called out for Colin.

577
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Speaker 1: Do you have that other tweet?

578
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Speaker 2: By the way, it got ugly today all for one.

579
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 2: Cusa comes and says, that's him just doing Josh paid things.

580
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 2: This is a real tweet for those of you listening

581
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 2: on podcasts, This is something someone really said about me.

582
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Speaker 2: When he's not bragging about eating Vienna sausages to hide

583
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 2: his rise to privilege, he's busy licking power four hind

584
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 2: quarters at the expensive programs that have to actually earn

585
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 2: their successes. Success eyes the plural instead of buying them.

586
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 2: So I'm not so sure I deserved it, but I

587
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 2: got it. So yes, I state my regret. It'll probably

588
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 2: happen again, so I'm not gonna tell you it'll never

589
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 2: happen again.

590
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Speaker 1: But it was. It was just an innocent.

591
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Speaker 2: Mistake, okay, And I apologize, and now my balls are

592
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 2: in your court. We move on to a much happier

593
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 2: point of the show. It's just brutal out here. Like

594
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Speaker 2: I said earlier, you don't want to be messing up

595
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Speaker 2: in February. If you mess up, mess up in the

596
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 2: football season, because no casuals are watching in February. It's

597
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 2: just diehards and they don't miss anything. And I was

598
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 2: just off my game a little bit the other night.

599
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 2: I'm can take sip of water right quick. But I

600
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 2: think what hurts the most is the Vienna sausage reference,

601
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 2: because I hate those things because I had to grow

602
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 2: up on them. So I don't know what a rise

603
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 2: to privilege is because look, I'm wearing the same white

604
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 2: T shirt I've always worn. But you are right if

605
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 2: you think I'm still eating Vienna sausages and scrapping those

606
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 2: is reflective of a rise to privilege. I guess it's

607
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 2: privileged time around here, because I've never eating those things again.

608
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 2: Next question, we got to move on. Next question, love

609
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 2: of the game? Excuse me, love for the game? Read

610
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 2: in other words from Pittsburgh. He hit me and said,

611
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 2: what advice or feedback have you received going into college

612
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 2: football's media space. I'm just getting started. I want to

613
00:31:58,600 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 2: know your thoughts.

614
00:31:59,600 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: Well.

615
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Speaker 2: First thing I'd ask read is do you love college football?

616
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 2: This seems so simple, doesn't it. This seems like an afterthought.

617
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: Of course.

618
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 2: Of course, if you want to cover college football you

619
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Speaker 2: love college football, you'd be surprised, read, You'd be really

620
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 2: surprised at how many people are out here covering sports,

621
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Speaker 2: including college football, for a living, who do not love

622
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 2: college football. Now, it's the free market, so hey, if

623
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 2: you can get a job doing it and you want it,

624
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 2: you should be able to have it. But my advice

625
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 2: would be, if you don't love this stuff, I would

626
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 2: pursue other avenues. If you do love it, then pursue it.

627
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 2: But it's always kind of disappointing, you know, when you

628
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 2: look at someone and you see them just like I do.

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Speaker 2: There are people in the sports media world who seem

630
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 2: to only come alive when there's a scandal or you know,

631
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 2: when a coach gets fired or when there's an investigation,

632
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 2: and it's like everything but the game on the fields

633
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 2: what they're the most passionate about. I have a theory

634
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 2: that's why a lot of these folks dove headfirst into

635
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 2: the story about playoff expansion because it had to do

636
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 2: with storyline, drama, intrigue, you know, combating conferences, but it

637
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 2: had nothing to do with the play on the field.

638
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: Same thing exists in the NBA.

639
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 2: You got folks who get ten times more excited talking

640
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 2: about a trade then they do the games on the court.

641
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 2: And it's because they don't really love the game. They

642
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 2: love basically treating it like a Netflix series they kind

643
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 2: of love that, or treating it like politics because a

644
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 2: lot of these folks would rather be covering politics. It's

645
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 2: just that when they were you know, headed down the

646
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 2: interstate of media, the political off ramp was closed, so

647
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 2: they had to wait and get off on the next

648
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 2: when it just happened to be sports.

649
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Speaker 1: So love it. Make sure you love it if you're

650
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Speaker 1: going to cover it. Next thing.

651
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Speaker 2: Don't even check your numbers for like two years when

652
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 2: I got here and we started the show, and me

653
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 2: and director Colin were doing this thing down in Brentwood,

654
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 2: which is in Tennessee, and it was during the middle

655
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 2: of COVID. I mean, we were not even looking at

656
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Speaker 2: the numbers because we were starting from scratch. And even

657
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 2: if you're doing a great job, which we weren't necessarily doing.

658
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 2: But even if you're doing a great job, even if

659
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 2: you're doing the best show in the world, you don't

660
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:14,320
Speaker 2: take off overnight. Which is a good thing because long

661
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 2: term that means that it takes being the cream to

662
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 2: rise to the top.

663
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Speaker 1: That's a net positive for the space.

664
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Speaker 2: But in the short term that means you're gonna struggle

665
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 2: and you're gonna get twenty three views. Even though you

666
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 2: think you just did the best segment of your life,

667
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 2: and you may be right about it, you don't get

668
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 2: validated by the numbers early on. That'll just depress you.

669
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 2: Stack your show for your audience and not yourself. So

670
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 2: big mistake that a lot of people make is they

671
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 2: put stuff in their show or they put stuff in

672
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 2: their rundown that they want to talk about, but you're

673
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 2: not your audience. The audience is the audience So there

674
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 2: are a lot of things that I love that we

675
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 2: never talk about on the show. There's a lot of

676
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 2: stuff I could do without that we do talk about

677
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 2: on the show because over time, you guys have definitively

678
00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 2: told me what you do and you don't care about.

679
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 1: So that's the show.

680
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 2: I think these are all very simple concepts. It's just

681
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 2: so many people screw them up that if you get

682
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 2: the basics figured out, you can really succeed big time.

683
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 2: I would say, also, this is a huge benefit be

684
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 2: your audience. I was at dinner last night with someone

685
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 2: and we were talking about the psychology of audience building,

686
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 2: and you know, looking for a cheap code or a shortcut.

687
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 2: How do you relate to college football fans? Well, here's

688
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 2: a secret. Grow up a college football fan. Hang out

689
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 2: with normal people your whole life. Go to lunch with

690
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 2: your buddies every day who are also working nine to

691
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 2: five jobs in West central Georgia, and eat barbecue and

692
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 2: talk about college football. It's what normal people who grew

693
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 2: up where I'm from do. That is our audience for

694
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 2: this show. So I am the audience. So it's not

695
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,439
Speaker 2: very hard to relate to people when you are those people. Now,

696
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 2: if you paarasale in from the northeast and you went

697
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 2: to one of the classic journalism schools.

698
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 1: And you kind of have to to tighten.

699
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 2: The bow tie a little bit, make sure the sweater

700
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 2: vest is properly aligned before you go on air. You

701
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 2: may struggle relating with these folks, but these are my folks.

702
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 2: I am these folks, so there's no struggle.

703
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: So read.

704
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 2: I would ask you, before you define the audience that

705
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 2: you want to have, are you that audience? And then

706
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 2: if you are. The final question is the toughest one.

707
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 2: Why would anyone care what you have to say? I

708
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 2: always pause when I asked that one, because when someone

709
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 2: asked me that for the first time, it like slap

710
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,399
Speaker 2: me in the face, because that's really what it comes

711
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 2: down to. Does anyone care what you have to say?

712
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 2: If you walk up to someone and say two plus

713
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 2: two is four, but they don't care. It doesn't really

714
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 2: matter that two plus two is four. If you tell

715
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 2: them Mississippi State's going to beat Georgia Saturday, but they

716
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 2: don't really care. Why you think that it doesn't matter

717
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 2: if Mississippi State wins. You gotta be able to do

718
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 2: the hardest thing in the world, which is make the

719
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,240
Speaker 2: most stubborn group of people in the world sports fans.

720
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 2: I'm one of them. Be willing to shut up and

721
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,439
Speaker 2: listen to what you have to say. They defer their

722
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 2: attention to you. If you've ever hung around normal college

723
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 2: football fans like most of us grew up with and

724
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 2: grew up being, you know how hard it is thinking

725
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 2: you know everything, thinking we all know everything. To have

726
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 2: a guy walk in a room and you say, oh man,

727
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be quiet and see what he has to

728
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 2: say about this. Hardly anyone in your social circle demands

729
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 2: that kind of authority from you, so or commands that

730
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 2: kind of authority from you. I'm the same way, so

731
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 2: like you gotta become that and it takes a while.

732
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 2: It takes a while, and it's fun if you love it.

733
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 2: It's fun, but it takes while. So that's some quick

734
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 2: advice and stop it quick trip because they fuel our

735
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 2: show and maybe read one day they'll fuel your show.

736
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 2: I've got a long drive home tonight, multiple quick trips

737
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 2: on the way. I'm not worried about that. I'm not

738
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 2: worried that the raisin free trail mix will be there.

739
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 2: I know it will I'm not worried the fuel. I

740
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 2: know it'll be there. I know the cole Brew on

741
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 2: tap will be there.

742
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: You know.

743
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 2: They also sent me a Thera gun with a Quick

744
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 2: Trip logo on it. I know it sounds random and

745
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 2: that I'm making it up, but I'm not. It's on

746
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 2: my nightstand right now. Let's pull it out of the

747
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 2: gut or please. And then they told me last night

748
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 2: We've got five more that we're gonna give away, So

749
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna give them away tonight, but this is

750
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 2: just a little teaser for Sunday if I remember, if

751
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 2: Jesse reminds me, I'm gonna give away five of those

752
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 2: Thera guns now again. It's the most random giveaway imaginable,

753
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 2: but it's a theo gun, like top of the line

754
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 2: theragun Canal sent me one one time, but now I've

755
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 2: scrapped it because Quick Trip sent me one and it's

756
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 2: got the Quick Trip logo on the side. It's just

757
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 2: the most random giveaway product from Quick Trip that you

758
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 2: can imagine. But it's great. I'm gonna give away a

759
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 2: few of them, probably in the live chat Sunday. So

760
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 2: it just kind of happened. We appreciate quick trip and

761
00:38:56,000 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 2: I will I'll see you guys later tonight. Let's move

762
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 2: it along. Got a few more questions to go. Oh,

763
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 2: it's only thirty eight after man, I thought we were

764
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 2: like an hour in. Okay, we're good, We're good. Uh.

765
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,439
Speaker 2: The Deboor question, Colin, let's go with that one next.

766
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:19,280
Speaker 2: Jim from Hiltonhead, South Carolina asked, well, Caylin Deboor eventually

767
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 2: get Alabama back to the level of success that Nick

768
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 2: Sabin created. Well, of course he won't. That sounded rude, Jim.

769
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 2: I don't think he will.

770
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 1: Was that better? Like Jim, I doubt anyone.

771
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 2: Will be able to do that. That's a very diplomatic

772
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 2: way to answer this, ladies and gentlemen. I know that

773
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 2: we're still very very closely removed from the Nick Saban era.

774
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 2: So whether you're Wayne and Watumka or you're Larry in

775
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 2: Los Angeles, you probably haven't come to realize how impossible

776
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 2: what he did is to accomplish again, especially in the

777
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:57,359
Speaker 2: new era of college football. But it's pretty much impossible

778
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 2: to accomplish what Nick Saban just accomplished in the new

779
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 2: era of college football. And the reason I know that

780
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 2: it's called Nick Saban knew that.

781
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:06,879
Speaker 1: Now.

782
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 2: I'm not going to sit here and tell you that

783
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 2: I know all the definitive reasons that Nick Saban chose

784
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 2: to retire when he did. I'll leave that to the

785
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:18,800
Speaker 2: experts on the internet. But I think you're kidding yourself

786
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,399
Speaker 2: if you don't think that man took a long, hard

787
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 2: look at this sport and said, yeah, this ain't for

788
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 2: me anymore. The way I do it, it's not going

789
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,720
Speaker 2: to work as effectively. There's a standard, there's a level

790
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 2: that I want to achieve to, and I'm not sure

791
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 2: that the new era of college football is conducive to

792
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:40,280
Speaker 2: my ways still working now. The more foolish minded person

793
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 2: will look at that and say, what a coward. The

794
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 2: more wisdom, well, the person that's a little wiser will

795
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 2: look at that and say, good move, good move. If

796
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 2: you don't like the way the pieces are lined up

797
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 2: on the board, just quit, just walk away, especially if

798
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 2: you've already won several matches. Just walk away, Jim, I

799
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 2: don't think anyone will do it. Look at the records

800
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 2: on the screen, Colin is showing you. That's just what

801
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 2: he just did in any era is unbelievable. I think

802
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 2: it's the greatest stretch that we'll ever see. I remember

803
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 2: telling Fine bamb one time that I always was in awe,

804
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 2: Like when I was growing up as a kid, I

805
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 2: was always in awe that there were people who were

806
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:29,240
Speaker 2: still mainstream figures in the sports media who covered guys

807
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 2: that I viewed to be legendary coaches. You can go

808
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 2: to Alabama like Bear Bryant a legend at Alabama, Vince

809
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 2: Dooley at Georgia, like the guys that I grew up

810
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 2: hearing about in the South. Or you could go with

811
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 2: Woody or Bow in the Big Ten. I was fascinated

812
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 2: that there were like people in my adolescence whose careers

813
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 2: had spanned so far back that they covered some of

814
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 2: those legends. Well, we don't think about Saving like that.

815
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 2: You think about him as the goat, you think about

816
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 2: him as this and that. But he's still here, He's

817
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,720
Speaker 2: still around the player, Some of the players he recruited

818
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 2: are still on campus at Alabama. Now you see him

819
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 2: on TV every Saturday, So you don't view him in

820
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 2: like rushmore context like you will down the road and

821
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 2: thirty years from now when you're talking to like kids

822
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 2: about him, the way you'll talk about him totally different.

823
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 2: So it's kind of hard to contextualize the run he

824
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 2: had because it's still so fresh.

825
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 1: You can still hear the echoes of it.

826
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 2: But to apply that standard to anyone Kaylin de Boorr

827
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 2: or Kirby or Napier or Ryan Day or Lincoln Riley

828
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 2: or Dan Lannings unfair because they're not competing in the

829
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 2: same era he did. And you've got this mechanism right

830
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 2: now that, while it's built for you to take advantage of,

831
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 2: it's also shaving off layers of depth that in a

832
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:52,879
Speaker 2: previous area you would have been able to build up.

833
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 2: And that was what separated those teams. I remember a

834
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 2: couple of playoff games they had, Like I remember a

835
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 2: playoff game saban and Alabama had against Washington one year

836
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 2: where it's not esthetically pleasing, it was just the formula

837
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 2: was basically, we're Alabama, they're Washington. We have recruited to

838
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 2: where some of the threes on this roster are five

839
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 2: star players. All we have to do is lean on

840
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,359
Speaker 2: them for four quarters and we can just grind out

841
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 2: a win. You don't have the kind of competitive depth

842
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 2: to grind out wins against other playoff caliber teams as

843
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 2: much these days, you just don't have that. So I

844
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 2: think that there's not the competitive balance per se, Like

845
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 2: there's not going to be fifteen random teams all of

846
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 2: a sudden winning the national title. But what you will

847
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 2: have is the teams that used to average ten plus

848
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 2: wins a year, or the programs like Alabama that used

849
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 2: to average ten plus wins a year. Like you'd never

850
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 2: see Saban dip below ten wins. You've become accustomed to

851
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 2: knowing Kirby will never dip below ten wins at the

852
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 2: very worst. You think the elite programs in the sport

853
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:08,240
Speaker 2: are recession proof. I don't think that's the case anymore.

854
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,879
Speaker 2: I think even for the best of the best out there,

855
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 2: you get some bad injury luck and you don't have

856
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 2: that championship caliber depth behind you. Georgia could have a

857
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 2: season randomly where they went eight, Oregon could have a

858
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 2: season randomly where they went eight or nine and it

859
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 2: not be that terrible of a year. Bama just won nine.

860
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 2: That's not a terrible year. It's not a terrible year

861
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 2: in any context. But you have this period where I'm

862
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,760
Speaker 2: not sure the expectations have been recalibrated, yet they will

863
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 2: and once they are, I think everyone's answer to that

864
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 2: question will be very close in line with what I

865
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 2: just said. No one's doing that anymore. Saban wouldn't do

866
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:46,879
Speaker 2: that if Saban coached for another ten or fifteen years.

867
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 2: I'll give you one better, if I could turn back

868
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 2: the clock on age for Nick Saban twenty years and

869
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 2: have him be like in his early fifties. But he

870
00:44:55,920 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 2: takes over Alabama today, he's not having a mirror image

871
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 2: of the success that he had when he took over

872
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 2: in seven.

873
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 1: I don't believe. I'm not gonna say anything's impossible, but

874
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: I don't believe that.

875
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 2: I don't believe that's possible. They're watching us in Elk View,

876
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 2: West Virginia, Chapel Hill, Tennessee, and San Jose, California. Thank

877
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 2: you guys so very much. A big week this week.

878
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 2: Bill Connolly's returning production numbers came out and we had

879
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 2: a question about it, which I was hoping for because

880
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 2: we always dive into this this time of year. A

881
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 2: lot of the teams that I end up circling, I

882
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 2: circle because I combed through Bill Connolly's numbers. It's on

883
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 2: ESPN dot com right now. He does a lot of

884
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 2: work on this. I don't work for the same company

885
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 2: he does, but always like to promote good work, so

886
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 2: he does his returning production numbers every year. So a

887
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 2: few of the teams I circled like. Clemson has the

888
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 2: most returning production in America this year. Now that's not

889
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 2: number of returning starters, it's snaps, like returning amount of

890
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 2: snaps eighty one percent of their's return They're the number

891
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 2: one returning production offense in the country. They've got eight starters, back, quarterbacks, back,

892
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 2: wide receivers are back. Thirteen of their eighteen players with

893
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 2: two hundred plus snaps on defense are back.

894
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,399
Speaker 1: So love where Clemson's at.

895
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,839
Speaker 2: I've spoken a couple of times the past few weeks

896
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 2: about how I think this year is almost like immune

897
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,439
Speaker 2: a little bit from the overall concern I have about them.

898
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty six and beyond.

899
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 2: I have concerned about Clemson, but twenty twenty five they

900
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 2: are the favorite twin the AC seat. They should be

901
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 2: over in the Big twelve. Got to like what you're

902
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:39,399
Speaker 2: looking at. With Arizona State and Texas Tech, Arizona State

903
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 2: is the number two team in returning production. According to

904
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 2: Bill Connolly. Texas Tech's number four. So at Arizona State,

905
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 2: they get Levit back at quarterback. They got Jordan Tyson back.

906
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 2: They're number two overall in defensive returning production. So it's

907
00:46:55,239 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 2: a crazy conference. It's a very randomized, variance laid conference

908
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 2: in the Big twelve.

909
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:03,720
Speaker 1: But there are some themes.

910
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 2: There are threads woven in that could be a little

911
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 2: clue as to who's going to make a run here.

912
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 2: Texas Tech. They just loaded up in the portal. It

913
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 2: it's open. Did you see the facilities at Texas Tech?

914
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 2: Did you see that building? We have prioritized a trip

915
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,280
Speaker 2: out to Lubbock. I haven't been there since a church

916
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 2: mission trip circa like two thousand and two. So I'm

917
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 2: long overdue Lubbock, Texas and Rockford, Illinois. I'm long overdue

918
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:31,879
Speaker 2: for return trips to both cities. And Rockford doesn't really

919
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 2: have a good team right now. The Peaches are an afterthought,

920
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 2: and so I got to go to Lubbock to see

921
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 2: Texas Tech. But number one returning production team on defense

922
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 2: Texas Tech Boom. What about Illinois? So earlier in the show,

923
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 2: we talked about Illinois having a really good scheduling draw

924
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 2: in the Big ten well, guess what. They're number three

925
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 2: in returning production in the country. They are top ten

926
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 2: on offense and defense returning production. Luk Altmeyer at quarterback

927
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 2: is among those players who are returning. Five of their

928
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 2: six primary offensive lineman return They were five and one

929
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 2: in one possession games last year, so you just get

930
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 2: a bunch of guys who know how to win close

931
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 2: games back again, have you heard the allegations that we

932
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 2: are becoming ALLIONI homers? Has anyone heard that? Has Brett

933
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 2: Beelamer heard that he popped off with those clown emojis

934
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 2: last week? And we really haven't heard anything since we've

935
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 2: been heaping praise on Illinois. You know, it's almost like

936
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,839
Speaker 2: when we speak positively about teams, we get ignored, and

937
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 2: the radar only goes up. The antenna only goes up

938
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:39,280
Speaker 2: when we say something not even negative but just critical.

939
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,280
Speaker 2: It could all be in my mind in the SEC,

940
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 2: A and m and Vandy and Oklahoma were the ones

941
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:50,839
Speaker 2: that I circle. They're all top ten. Those are the

942
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 2: SEC teams that are top ten in returning production. Now

943
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 2: I'm going to say something quietly, very quietly, because I

944
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 2: don't want to create a panic. This is gonna be

945
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 2: a pretty hot take, so bear with me. It is

946
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 2: my belief that Oklahoma could be either very good or

947
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 2: very bad this year. Pause for effect. Yes, so that's

948
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 2: the hot take with Oklahoma. Now, on the plus side,

949
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 2: they get a lot on defense back If that quarterback

950
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator transfer combo clicks, Oklahoma could surprise a lot

951
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 2: of people. On the down side, they play like an

952
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 2: NFL schedule this year. So there's that they have. You're

953
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 2: gonna have to bear with me, Colin. They have the two, four, six,

954
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 2: eight ten, They got the twelve best odds to win

955
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 2: the SEC. Uh huh, So FanDuel not exactly what you

956
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 2: would call sold on Oklahoma yet, but returning production looks good.

957
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 2: Texas A and M number six overall in returning production,

958
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 2: quarterback sixty of sixty five offensive line starts. That's really

959
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,280
Speaker 2: what you're looking at there. And some of the areas

960
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 2: on defense that they were a little deficient in, they

961
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 2: addressed those with the portal. And there are two G

962
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 2: five's in the top ten.

963
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,320
Speaker 1: Kenna saw is one of them. The other one's Boise.

964
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 2: There's gonna be a lot talked about this week about

965
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,839
Speaker 2: Ashton gent and the NFL combine and this and that,

966
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,399
Speaker 2: and he left Boise State, pretty much everyone else came back,

967
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 2: so they look like the favorite again. And the G

968
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 2: five ranks. If you're going to pick a team that's gonna,

969
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 2: you know, bring home that G five auto bid shocker,

970
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 2: Boise again would be the favorite, which you can go

971
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 2: bet at FanDuel right now. There are the odds right

972
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,120
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973
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974
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975
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976
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 2: but if you want to just skip right on the fall,

977
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,640
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978
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,880
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980
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,160
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981
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982
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983
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984
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1008
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Speaker 2: because it's a mailbag episode.

1009
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Speaker 1: Dustin hit us.

1010
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 2: He said, what do you think Arkansas's chances are for

1011
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 2: an eight win season? And on the flip side, what

1012
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 2: are the chances they retain Sam Pittman pass this year.

1013
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 2: I love Arkansas, I love our people there. I love

1014
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 2: Trey Biddy for my money, he does the best post

1015
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,879
Speaker 2: game scene of any Beat reporter out there, the walk

1016
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 2: and talk around Reynolds razorback stadium. I'm saying a lot

1017
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 2: of positive things right now to build you up for

1018
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 2: the negativity that's coming. They're over underwent totals five and

1019
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 2: a half. Are they gonna win eight games? My guess

1020
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 2: would be no. They got the number three toughest schedule

1021
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 2: in FBS as we see it. They've got eight teams

1022
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 2: on their schedule that we classify as either Tier one

1023
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:32,879
Speaker 2: or Tier two. They're road games their road schedule this year.

1024
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 2: They're gonna go to Texas, to LSU, to Tennessee and

1025
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 2: too Old Miss. There are teams over the next half

1026
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 2: decade at the Power four level that will not play

1027
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 2: that kind of road schedule. Arkansas has got it this year.

1028
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 2: They play Notre Dame in out of conference action, They've

1029
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 2: got A and M at home, they got Auburn at home,

1030
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 2: they got Missouri at home. They are middle of the

1031
00:53:55,680 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 2: pack in returning production. So I'd say that total is

1032
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 2: pretty unlikely. I would say, man, look, you're good if

1033
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 2: you hit the over six and a half, so you're

1034
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 2: good if you win seven games. Winning eight or more

1035
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 2: is tough, very tough.

1036
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 1: Now.

1037
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 2: As for Sam Pittman, so his records, there have been

1038
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,359
Speaker 2: three and seven. That was the COVID year, So three

1039
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:19,959
Speaker 2: and seven, nine and four, seven and six, four and eight,

1040
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 2: and they actually rebounded a little last year back up

1041
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 2: to seven and six. But do we expect another little

1042
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 2: trampoline year here? And if the team's improved because of

1043
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 2: that schedule, will you know it? And you know how

1044
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:36,839
Speaker 2: pathetic it is. By the way, that, as far back

1045
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:40,399
Speaker 2: as my mind can go, I don't ever remember saying, boy,

1046
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,720
Speaker 2: you know who's got a workable schedule in the SEC

1047
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 2: this year? Arkansas? Dude, you've seen how pillow soft Arkansas

1048
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:50,240
Speaker 2: schedule is. I know this is supposed to be random,

1049
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 2: and the league didn't tell him to schedule Notre Dame.

1050
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 2: But I know it's supposed to be random, but man,

1051
00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 2: some teams randomly catch the short end of the stick disproportionately.

1052
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:04,280
Speaker 2: They got back to back recruiting classes outside the top thirty.

1053
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 2: I'll just put it this way. Nobody had reason to

1054
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 2: believe Arizona State was going to the playoff this time

1055
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 2: last year. The sport surprises us every year, so I

1056
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 2: always leave room for that possibility.

1057
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 1: I'll do that with Arkansas.

1058
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 2: But I'll just say this, if I'm searching for the

1059
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 2: blinking red light, I don't see it with Arkansas right now.

1060
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 2: Maybe we're coming out of spring and we're saying that,

1061
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 2: maybe we're going in the fall, and I've got some

1062
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 2: reason to believe eight or nine wins or in the cards,

1063
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:37,240
Speaker 2: Memo always told me, write your predictions in pencil, write

1064
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 2: your opinions in pencil in the spring, because you got

1065
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:41,839
Speaker 2: to be ready to erase, because you got a lot

1066
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 2: of information that you'll learn. So I've written that in pencil.

1067
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 2: I've written no to Arkansas winning eight games in pencil.

1068
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 2: And as for what they would do with Pittman, I'm

1069
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 2: not really sure, not really sure, And that's mutual. That's

1070
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 2: on his end on their end. I know the vibe

1071
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 2: around there is not the best. I know the vibe

1072
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:02,800
Speaker 2: around the fan base is not the best, which I hate,

1073
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 2: but let's just keep an eye on it. Not the

1074
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:09,399
Speaker 2: worst roster in the world. Tough schedule, but something worth

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