1 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 1: These One Bill's Live presented by Called Light of Health. 2 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: Ah the heck are you here on a Tuesday, Chris Brown, 3 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 1: Steve tasking with you? One Bill's Live is your show. 4 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:46,919 Speaker 1: Plenty of stuff going on around the NFL, juicy, juicy, juicy, 5 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 1: and we're here to talk about all of it as 6 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:53,959 Speaker 1: we usually are. Steve, Are you getting into March madness yet? 7 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: I have to say no? Come on, I'm sorry. Don't 8 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: you have a soft spot in your heart for the 9 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: mid majors and small conference teams that are playing for 10 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: all the marbles and their conference tournament? Absolutely? Final, Absolutely, 11 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: there are some good games. Last night I'm watching, you know, 12 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: I'm watching, Uh, who the heck was it? Now? The 13 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: Paladins of what the heck is? The dang school called? 14 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: Now now, I'm not going to remember the dang school 15 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: Furman Paladins. What it's It's a night, don't make that's 16 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: what it's like, Knights Templar. So I had no clue 17 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: either until I saw the mascot. So that's my guess 18 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: as to what a paladin is. So they call them 19 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: the they call them the Dins for short. They actually 20 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: have it on their jersey Dins. I don't know if 21 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: I would have gone with that, you know what I mean, 22 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: like the Champions of the Realm. Yeah, so you're kind 23 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: of I don't know, I feel like they're trying too 24 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: hard down at Fermint. Anyway, they they won, so that 25 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: was good their first listen to this the first tournament 26 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: UH qualification since nineteen eighty. Furman is in in. I 27 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: got I don't know, I gotta, I got a soft spot. 28 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 1: This is my time of the year. Man. I love 29 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: marsh Madness. I live for it. My wife's already yelling 30 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: at me, like, hey, are we really gonna watch basball 31 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 1: all night tonight. Here's the thing, this is a year 32 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: two and I know I spent time with you know, 33 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: Jim Nance and stuff, friend of mine. This is last year, 34 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: last month, and Madness. The thing is for him personally. 35 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: He wants to be it's in Houston, and he wants 36 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: the Houston Cougars to be in there. Right. His was 37 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: a pretty good alumnus, so that's for him. Number one 38 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: for me. Also, when I was back with CBS, Gus 39 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: always did the games. Gus Johnson, Yeah, I love Gus. 40 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: Great story about it, oh from the parking Lotus. I 41 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: knew Gus was. Gus is a star. He's an absolute 42 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: superstar and basketball is his absolute wheelhouse. He was really 43 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: good in football. He had town better at basketball. But 44 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: he's gifted and I always told him, and you know 45 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: it's and it's only because of you know, he was 46 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: so good doing it that the Big Ten, Big twelve. 47 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: He's the voice of the Big Ten and the Big twelve. 48 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: They hired him away from CBS. Otherwise they never let 49 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: him out of the building, right, So, um, that's what 50 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to. Gus. The bigger conference. He doesn't 51 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,119 Speaker 1: even get to do him The bigger conference tournaments are 52 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: starting now. He does do the Big East Tournament because 53 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: it's on Fox. So he does that one. So he 54 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: gets to go back to the Garden every year and 55 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: do that, which is kind of fun. He used to 56 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: live right down there and he walk over to the Garden. 57 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: Yeah you know, yeah, and good gig if you can 58 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: get it. So he walked away. Well, yeah, they weren't 59 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: gonna give enough money. Yeah, they they were a lowballing him. 60 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: He said, thank you very much. But Gus is the 61 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: absolute best man. He's a gem. He's a joy to listen. 62 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: He is and just don't ever get into a negotiation 63 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: with him because he just does not care. Right, Well, 64 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: he's getting what he's getting or he's not doing it. Yeah, 65 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: and good for him. He's the best. He's the absolute best. Yeah. 66 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: My son's a big fan of his. He plays his 67 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: highlights on his Yeah. I consider I consider Gus a 68 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 1: really good friend and he used to listen to him. 69 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: He's one of the few guys, am I right, He's 70 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 1: one of the few guys. It could be like Furman 71 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: and Saint Joe's whoever. Yeah, I'm tuning in to listen 72 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: to Gus. Well, you should watch the Biggest Tournament then, 73 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 1: because I'm pretty sure he's doing those games. I would 74 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: watch it just for Gusts as long as it's Yeah, 75 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: it should be on Fox because they get they have 76 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: the rights. Yeah, it's on Fox. So he should be 77 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: doing those because he did him last year. So yeah, 78 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 1: I am into it. I am too. Start tonight, Like 79 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: a lot of the bigger conference, interest starts, My interest 80 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: starts now. I'll watch the Power I'll watch the Big 81 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 1: Ten Tournament because Northwestern she starts tonight twelve. Northwestern University's 82 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: head coach is the Big Ten coach of the Year. Yeah, 83 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: and his assistant is the assistant. They should they should 84 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: get an at large bit should I think I think 85 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: it'll help if they get a couple of wins in 86 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 1: the big short tournament the first way. It always it's 87 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: always recency biased. It pretend even in recency, I mean 88 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: the last twenty four hours recency. Yeah, it's not like 89 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 1: the way you finished the season with the last two weeks. 90 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 1: It's like the last game almost in that thing. It's 91 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,799 Speaker 1: so so. I'm rooting for Penn State too, right. My interest, 92 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: my interest starts at the selection Sunday, and I'm ready 93 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 1: to watch. Yeah. Um, you know it's my favorite time 94 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: of year. Man. I love it. I love getting enough 95 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: of that thing. When I was a kid, I used 96 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: to have this giant white board that I would take 97 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 1: off of the wall and I had four different color 98 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: markers and I do the regions and different I was. 99 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: I was over the sick. Yeah, I was a connor. 100 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 1: It was Batner And my wife will tell you the 101 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: first few years of our marriage, I was still using 102 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: that way. Like the piece of the eight by eleven 103 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: print out on the fridge wasn't enough for me. I 104 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 1: have a big old board. And that's that's the fun 105 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: part of it, because you know, every gazillion there's a 106 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: gazillion people out there, and they all do a gazillion 107 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 1: different brackets, right, they all try and figure it out 108 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 1: and try and have one that pops out, and nobody's 109 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: ever ever gotten one exactly right. No one's ever gotten 110 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 1: one exactly right ever. Ever, I think it's of mankind 111 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: and I think it's um I want to I want 112 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 1: to say it's somewhere in the quadrillions of the chances 113 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 1: to have a perfect bracket, because there's just too many 114 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: games and too many variables, obviously, and the varials get 115 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 1: even larger the further you go in. I'm sure we 116 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 1: could talk to one of the analytics guys upstairs and 117 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 1: they tell us just how ridiculous it is to try 118 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: to predict the perfect bracket. It's crazy. Um yeah, it'll 119 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 1: it's gonna be fun. It's fun every year. I love it. 120 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 1: It is, and it's it's it's a rival super Bowl week, 121 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 1: you know all that stuff. It's it's just so much. 122 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 1: It's rom far. It's far and away ahead of in 123 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: the United States, is far and away ahead of even 124 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: the NBA Finals or the or the World Series even 125 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: and it was just here last year. I mean I 126 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: went to the games and the first two weekends, I mean, oh, 127 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: just so much going on elect across the country, absolutely 128 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: just taking it here, there and everywhere. I was like, Oh, 129 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: let's go this guy, this game's close, let's go here. 130 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: I was part of the planning committee, the organizing committee 131 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: for the host committee for Hoops two thousand, when the 132 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: when it came here for the first time in the arena, 133 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: and I was on the committee for that getting it 134 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: up and running. And that's when Seton Hall made a 135 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: nice run here. They had a couple of upsets. Bobby 136 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: Knight was here, lost to Pepperdine by twenty, right. It 137 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: was that game. It was awesome. Pepperdine eighty four Indiana 138 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: sixty four and and Bobby Knight was done in Indiana. 139 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: Oh it was glorious. Yeah, it was. And it was 140 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: watching like swear on the sideline. It's pretty enter day. 141 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: So it was it's great, man, I um, it is. 142 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: It's a great It's a great time because you know, 143 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: it's a it's a what is it like a three 144 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: or four week long festival. It's it's a festival, and 145 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: you get those little you get those like three day, 146 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: four or five day breaks. They go Saturday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. 147 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: Well yeah, if they play Thursday, Saturday and Friday Sunday, 148 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: you know the teams that are in town or whatever. 149 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: And then you go the next Thursday, you know, until 150 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: he gets down sixty oh us, yes, and then you 151 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: get the you know the Cinderella stories making a run. 152 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: You know, Saint Peter's last year, the Peacocks look at 153 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: him go unbelieving that was great. Oral Roberts, who has 154 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: another good team this year, right, may want to pick 155 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: them in your bracket again to win a game at 156 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: least um, But yeah, I'm looking forward to it. We've 157 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: got NFL news, as we said that we have to 158 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 1: get to around the NFL, presented by callid to Health, 159 00:08:56,160 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: the official healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills, and do 160 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 1: Do Do Do Do Do Do. This is the first thing. 161 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:09,719 Speaker 1: A day after rumors surface that Tom Brady may be 162 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: rethinking retirement again, with the Dolphins as his most likely 163 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: landing spot, as predicted by many out there, not one 164 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 1: to be outdone for making headlines. Those headlines couldn't stand 165 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: for more than a day before we had to hear 166 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: Steve from one Aaron Rodgers right on time, a day 167 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: after the Brady stuff comes. It's inevitable that Rogers is 168 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: going to try to have a return salvo, if you will, 169 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 1: in terms of headline making. And here it is. Aaron 170 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 1: Rodgers has received permission from the Green Bay Packers to 171 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: speak with the New York Jets, so he is at 172 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: least opening his mind to seeing just what the Jets 173 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: have to offer. What's going to be the most complicated 174 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: part of the this whole thing, Steve, is the money 175 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: that a new team that would acquire Aaron Rodgers services 176 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 1: would have to take on. And it's not cheap. And 177 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 1: then the second part is what is the compensation going 178 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: the other way? Because if you're the Jets, and okay, 179 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: I could see why you would be interested in Aaron Rodgers, 180 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 1: but are you interested in him if you can only 181 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: get him for a year? Like to me, it's got 182 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: to be at least a two year investment. And I'm 183 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: if I'm talking to Aaron Rodgers today in Fair Lawn, 184 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: New Jersey, at the Jets headquarters, I'm talking to him 185 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: saying Hey, bro, like, I don't need you going off 186 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: to Mount kill Him and Jaro next year to find 187 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: yourself again. I want to know, now are you in 188 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 1: for this year and twenty four because if not, we're 189 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: done talking. Yeah. I think there should be a prop 190 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 1: bet on whether Aaron Rodgers visits at Tibetan monastery next offseason. 191 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: I would put it at plus two fifty. I would 192 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: put it minus one fifty. But I is it permissid 193 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:09,839 Speaker 1: the Jet? Did the Packers give him permission or did 194 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: they give him encouragement? Which I think is the question, 195 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: which is I think probably encouragement. The Packers are ready 196 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: to be done with this, yeah, and they're ready to 197 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: get whatever they can get out of the Jets to 198 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:25,319 Speaker 1: come back. Now. Is anybody else gonna get into those sweepstakes? 199 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: Because the draft is a month away and there are 200 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: a bunch of teams at the top of this draft. Brownie, 201 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: if you haven't noticed, who need a quarterback? Would you 202 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: rather say, for instance, you're the Colts, You're whoever the Raiders? 203 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: Do you take Aaron Rodgers for a two year deal? 204 00:11:54,120 --> 00:12:00,719 Speaker 1: Or roll the dice on Stroud richardson Young Levis, if 205 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 1: on the Texans I do, because Aaron Rodgers is not 206 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: taking you all the way. With the way their roster 207 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: exists right now, they're not in a position to The 208 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: Jets are in a position to be a super Bowl 209 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: contender if they add Aaron Rodgers right away. That is 210 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: not the case for the Houston Texans. The Colts are 211 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: kind of a middling team right now. Rogers would make 212 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: him a playoff team, but I don't know if he 213 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: makes him a super Bowl contender. You can probably win 214 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:36,839 Speaker 1: your division with Rogers at Atlanta. Yeah, you can win 215 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: the division with Rogers. You could. You might even be 216 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: able to win a playoff game or two with Rogers. 217 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,839 Speaker 1: You got targets there, Kyle Pitts, the kid they got 218 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: from USC last year, the receiver whose name escapes me. 219 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 1: So Tennessee, No, there's not enough there. They're kind of 220 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: like Houston as I see it. So, yeah, the Jets 221 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: make a lot of sense because you could argue the 222 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: Jets are a quarterback made from being a contender made. 223 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: They are already made for a guy to come in 224 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 1: and have some success. Right, But if it's a one 225 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 1: and done, as badly as I'm you know, as badly 226 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: as the Jets organization may want to win. I get one. 227 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: I get one. Look at it with Rogers. That's it, 228 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like I get it. I 229 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: think it's got to be at least a two year 230 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 1: commitment from Rogers or I'm not even entertaining it. It 231 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: give me two years, not one. Yea almost almost satan 232 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: because I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm giving up at least 233 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: one first round pick. I'm probably giving up like a one, 234 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 1: maybe two. I mean for a forty year old who 235 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: could go completely off the radar in a wall whenever 236 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: he wants, and it's fifty million dollars. Well, that's the 237 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: other part of it. I could I see the Jets 238 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: pulling the trigger even if they only have one year commitment. Yes, 239 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: sure would I do it. Hell to the no, not 240 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: for one year. I need a little more, all right, 241 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: So I can't do Let's talk about And here's the 242 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,079 Speaker 1: thing too, the reason the Packers are given permission. I 243 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: agree with you. I think they are done number one. 244 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: And then, secondarily, and maybe even more importantly for their future, 245 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: they got to find out about Jordan Love. This is 246 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: year three on his rookie contract for Jordan Love. You've 247 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: got to find out if you have your future franchise quarterback, 248 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: and you got to do that by playing him this 249 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: year and playing him next year and see where you're 250 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: at him. I think they like him. I think they've 251 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: seen enough from him. He's playing ten games right one start, 252 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: so they don't know anything about him. Let's talk about 253 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: this though, Let's talk about this. What I mean, how 254 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: do you structure a trade for Aaron Rodgers right now? 255 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: He's gonna be forty, He's flirted with retirement for at 256 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: least the last two offseason. Still one of the five 257 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: most productive quarterbacks in football nine get it? Yeah? So, 258 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: and he's what is he two years removed from his 259 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: last MVP season? Now it will be two years removed. 260 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: Yeah so. I mean that's why if on the Jets, 261 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: I like the talent, but I want the commitment. Give 262 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: me two years and if I if I can get 263 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: a guarantee from Rogers that you play in two more years. 264 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: By the way, this is his fourth year coming up. 265 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: This is Jordan loves fourth year. He came out in 266 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, twenty one, twenty two. He was in the 267 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: twenties raft. Yeah, twenty six to pick. Huh. I thought 268 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: I didn't want to say anything, but yes, that's true. 269 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: I just looked it up. So it's his last year 270 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: of his rookie deal. Yeah, they're the corner. He's got 271 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: a five it's rookie, five year first round pick. He's 272 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: a five year guy. They didn't exercise his fifth year 273 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: option last year, did they? I don't think they did. Okay, well, yeah, 274 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: so yeah, the clock is ticking, man, Yeah, this is it. 275 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: You got to find out. So yeah, I looked up 276 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: his stats and I only saw stats for twenty one 277 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: and twenty two. He must not have played at all, 278 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: and he'll wantake a snap in twenty Okay, Um, so 279 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: that so here, how do you find out? Now? How 280 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: do you structure compensation? You? All right, let's try this. 281 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: You'll be you be the Jets because you're a Long 282 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: Island guy. I'll bring the packers. What are you offer 283 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: me for Rogers? Well, I need to know I'm getting 284 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: a two year commitment, So let's assume that I am. 285 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: Let's all right for now, let's say it's I'm getting 286 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: a two year commitment. I will give you my first 287 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: round pick this year at thirteen mm hmm um, and 288 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: I'll give you a three next year. I'm gonna say 289 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: no to that, Okay. I want your one this year, 290 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 1: and if you go to the playoffs, I want your 291 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: two next year and five or four or five. Oh. 292 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: If I'm getting two years of Rodgers, that's done right. 293 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 1: See that seems too easy for me. I think I 294 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: did this year's one and next year's one. Particularly if 295 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 1: you go to the playoffs. I think that would be 296 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: a little I don't know, maybe not. If you go 297 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,239 Speaker 1: to the playoffs, you gotta I mean, come on, you're 298 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: at the Jets. You gotta go to the playoffs. If 299 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: you get to the playoffs, you give it up. Give 300 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: them two ones for two years of Rodgers. No matter what. 301 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 1: You could pick the top guy in the draft, Stroud, young, whatever, 302 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 1: You're not getting to the playoffs two years in a 303 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: row with that guy you're getting. If you get there 304 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 1: with Rogers in the first year, you gotta think you're 305 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:50,199 Speaker 1: gonna get there in the second year too. I mean, 306 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: you gotta think, right. But I got I want to 307 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:56,199 Speaker 1: win in the playoffs too, you know. Yeah, And in 308 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 1: the AFC that's a tougher row to home. Of course, 309 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: it is. But you gotta. It's like I always said, 310 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: anybody can beat yet in the playoffs. The Bills are 311 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: proof of that on both edges. So I mean the 312 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: Bills have gone into Kansas, you know, going to Kansas 313 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: City and played well, the Eagles almost beat the Chiefs. No, 314 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: I get it, I get it. So getting in is 315 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: really the key. It's gonna be very interesting to see. 316 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 1: So I'm thinking it's two ones broce leeve. And if 317 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 1: you don't make the playoffs, it's a two, a connectional, 318 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: a conditional two that turns into a one in twenty 319 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: twenty five. That's twenty twenty four. And if you make 320 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 1: the playoffs, and if he plays a third year for you, 321 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 1: I get a two. Wow, that's I don't know if 322 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 1: I'm doing that. Two ones. It's pretty steep. So you're 323 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,640 Speaker 1: getting a guy that's a year removed from a from 324 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 1: a back to back MV next year could say yeah, 325 00:18:56,440 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm I'm gonna go sit by if the 326 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 1: torches and rosemar If he does that, you get the 327 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: one back next year. Oh, you're giving me if he retires. 328 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 1: If he retires, and I'm on board, right if he retires, 329 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: that's should be it. That's it. If he retires, he 330 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: gets no way the Packers are doing. If he retires, 331 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: you give back. I don't even know what you give back. 332 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: But if he doesn't retire, you get an extra two 333 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 1: the next year. This is you know what I mean? 334 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: I wonder if Brandon Bean has these kinds of conversations 335 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: with first you got up with this crew up there. 336 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: You gotta set his value well right, And I think 337 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: some of that is predicated on how long, how much 338 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: longer he intends to play. I think that's part of it. 339 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,719 Speaker 1: So that's why job one of the Jets is to 340 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: find out how much longer Aaron Rodgers is willing to play. 341 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: I mean, Brett Farve came there, he played one year 342 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: there and he was gone and they went to Minnesota. 343 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: So it's just like, what are you doing? You know 344 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: what I mean? You gotta have you gotta put in 345 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: some safeguards because that's the big thing. They don't even 346 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 1: know if you guys gonna be there. You don't know 347 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,640 Speaker 1: if you're gonna be there in November. The interesting thing 348 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 1: here is this, both teams are going to want to 349 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: know what direction they're going at the quarterback position. Certainly 350 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 1: before the free agent market opens. That's right, that's a 351 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: week away. So well, they started talking today. They got 352 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: a lot of work to do in a week to 353 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 1: find out all of the parameters involved, the dollars and 354 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: cents involved, the cap figures that are going to be 355 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: incurred on their cap, on green Bay's cap, the whole nine. 356 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: So good for them if they can figure it all out. 357 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: I don't have a terrible amount of confidence in the Jets. 358 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: Call me crazy. It's also franchise tag deadline day four 359 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: PM is a deadline for NFL players to tag those 360 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: players that they want to retain rights to in the 361 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: hope of negotiating a long term contract. Lamar Jackson and 362 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 1: the Ravens are front and center on this subject, and 363 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: while putting the tag on him, I think will come 364 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: as no surprise today, Steve. If they can't get a 365 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: deal done, doesn't look like they are. It's the kind 366 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: of tag that will be of greatest interest here. An 367 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 1: exclusive franchise tag would mean only the Ravens could negotiate 368 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 1: with him on a long term deal, which would be 369 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 1: projected at about around forty five million dollars, could be 370 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: lower based on quarterback contract restructures this offseason. So if 371 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: it winds up in the low forties, maybe the Ravens 372 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 1: just say, forget it, We're going to keep him here, 373 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 1: make them stay here, and give him no option to 374 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 1: go anywhere else. But if the relationship has soured to 375 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,479 Speaker 1: the point where maybe the Ravens are skeptical they can 376 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: get anything done with him, maybe they put the non 377 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 1: exclusive tag on him Steve and at least leave the 378 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: door open to move him in a sign and trade. 379 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: If you're the Jets, don't you like push for that. 380 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: Don't you go to the don't you call Baltimore and say, listen, 381 00:21:58,040 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: we want to make a deal with you guys. We'll 382 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: sign that guy to this deal that Deshaun Watson got 383 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: and we'll sign him right away. We'll give you whatever 384 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: the the two ones did you get if you non 385 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:18,160 Speaker 1: exclusive franchising is Is he a better option than Aaron Rodgers? Well, yeah, 386 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: because he'll play longer. He's not a better thrower, no, 387 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 1: and he's a better athlete. He'll play longer, So he 388 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: could be your franchise guy for seven eight years, not 389 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 1: or ten even not two. So yeah, he is more 390 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: attractive because of the Longe longevity of his career left 391 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 1: in front. The Jets put a better package together for 392 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson than they do for Aaron Rodgers. To know 393 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: how receptive is Baltimore to that. Well, you're trading him 394 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 1: within your own conference, that's number one, so you're gonna 395 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: have to deal with him, presumably, in my opinion, the 396 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: second you do the trade, you make the Jets a 397 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: better team than you. I don't even think that's Jets 398 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: are at thirteen right now. Thirteen what thirteenth pick of 399 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: the Yeah, this draft, so they'd get that. You'd get 400 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: that pick from the Jets right right, not high enough 401 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: to get one of the top four qbs. But you've 402 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: also got your own pick, which is at twenty two. 403 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: So take thirteen and twenty two, get up there and 404 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 1: go get Anthony Richardson. You got the next Lamar Jackson. 405 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 1: Go up there to wherever, to number five where Seattle is, 406 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 1: or number three where Arizona is. Yeah, Arizona will be 407 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,719 Speaker 1: a good place because they don't want a quarterback. Right, 408 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: go up to three and take whoever's left. Arizona's got 409 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 1: like twenty got like thirty unrestricted free agents on their 410 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: roster right now, have fun with that. So and they 411 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: need guys, right, they need cheap labor. Well, a lot 412 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: of teams need cheap labor, so you could, you know, 413 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 1: if I'm Baltimore, I'm thinking about it, right, Oh, I 414 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: think you have to. That's why I think if they 415 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: want to do right by themselves, they should use the 416 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: non exclusive tag and at least least leave the option 417 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:17,199 Speaker 1: open to move him and then see what you can 418 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: negotiate if you're you know, somebody comes in and says, 419 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 1: all right, we'll give you two ones and some other stuff. Yeah, 420 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: you know, at least you leave yourself open with the 421 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: option of that. I don't know, I wouldn't. Knowing how 422 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: the Ravens operate, I'm expecting the exclusive tag, so the 423 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 1: non exclusive tag might be a little bit of a 424 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: surprise to me. Speaking of franchise tag, the Raiders are 425 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: expected to franchise tag Josh Jacobs, who, according to some reports, 426 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 1: isn't all that keen on returning to the Raiders. Be 427 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: interesting to see if Jacob signs that contract or if 428 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: he refuses and then holds out demanding a trade or something. Now, 429 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 1: I know Jacobs is only twenty four years old, and 430 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: you usually don't see a running back decline until your 431 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 1: age twenty eighth season. But there are some miles on 432 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: those tires. He's got over a thousand carries Steve in 433 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 1: four seasons, including three hundred and forty last year. But 434 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: looking at the Raiders situation, they're probably going to draft 435 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 1: a young quarterback. So I can't believe I'm going to 436 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: say this out loud, but I may actually be in 437 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:33,880 Speaker 1: agreement with the Raiders. Move here, you sign up Josh Jacobs, 438 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 1: who gives you enormous productivity in the run game. That's 439 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 1: helps to support a young quarterback if you draft one. 440 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: And where are they picking six? Right? The Raiders are 441 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 1: picking seven seven. So I think with all that in mind, 442 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 1: you keep Josh Jacobs for one more year, you help 443 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: your rookie quarterback, and you know, then do whatever you 444 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: want the next year. You want to bounce him and say, 445 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 1: you know, go into free agency, will just draft another one? 446 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 1: Go ahead and do it. But I think by franchise 447 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 1: tagging him, this is a signal that they're going to 448 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,439 Speaker 1: draft a quarterback because Josh Jacobs is a support system 449 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: for a rookie QB. Don't you think, Yeah, I'm leaning 450 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 1: and not only that, Steve, I don't know that the Raiders, 451 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 1: who have been rumored to have cash flow problems are 452 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: going to be able to sign a veteran quarterback for 453 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 1: giant money when they just threw one overboard so they 454 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 1: wouldn't have to pay him forty million on an option bonus. 455 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: So your franchise, Jacobs, that only costs you ten million 456 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 1: if he signs it. And then you draft a young 457 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 1: quarterback who you're paying a rookie contract to. That, to 458 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: me is the way the Raiders are going. And this 459 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: franchise tag signals that it does make sense. And if 460 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: the players on the draft in the draft four, well yeah, 461 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 1: and if you got to move up a little, you 462 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 1: move up a little. You're at seven, maybe you gotta 463 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: get to four, or maybe you gotta go to Arizona 464 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: at three, right to get one of the guys that 465 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:14,120 Speaker 1: you like. Gino Smith is under contract three years, one 466 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: hundred five million dollars with the Seahawks after his good 467 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,919 Speaker 1: year in Seattle as the starter last season. Steve thirty 468 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: five million a year is more than fair for Gino Smith. 469 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna read you some statistics. Okay. He completed almost 470 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 1: seventy percent of his passes last season through for almost 471 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 1: forty three hundred yards, thirty touchdowns, eleven picks, and a 472 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: passer rating of almost one oh one. That guy deserves 473 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: thirty five million dollars a year. You know who's really 474 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 1: happy about that contract? The New York Giants. Yeah, because 475 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: this gives the Giants supreme leverage. With Daniel Jones, a 476 00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: quarterback in Seattle who threw twice as many touchdown passes 477 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 1: as you're a joker in New York, got thirty five million. 478 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 1: There's no way we're coming within a sniff of forty 479 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: for you, Daniel Jones. As a matter of fact, you 480 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: don't even deserve thirty five. It's right, he doesn't. I mean, 481 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 1: he's the last He's the guy standing in the room. 482 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: You gotta pay somebody, and it's his contracts up. And 483 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: that's why he may get a stupid contract because he 484 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 1: more than thirtysolutely not. But it may be the economics 485 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,159 Speaker 1: and the logistics of how the contracts fall that he 486 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 1: gets more than that. I'm with you, Brownie. I think 487 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: the guy. I don't think the guy can play well 488 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: enough to warrant that kind of contract, and all of 489 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: those for more than twenty touchdowns since his rookie year. 490 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: You take the players out of it, you know who 491 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 1: comes out of this looking like brilliant is Pete Carroll. Yeah, 492 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks. The Seahawks look really sharp in this 493 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: whole thing. So first of all, they trade Russell will 494 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: and he bombs out in Denver. Whether that's all his 495 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: fault remains to be seen. But some of the awards 496 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: on the person that Russell Wilson is was revealed last season. 497 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: I think that's safe to say, whether he's bringing his 498 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: own trainer into the building, whether it's all that garbage. 499 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: Then the windfall on the return for Russell Wilson gives 500 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: them an extra first round pick this year. So I 501 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: think they pick at five and twenty in round one. 502 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: And this is coming off an awesome draft class with 503 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 1: four hits who ended up in the starting lineup last year, 504 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: and now they got two first round picks and the 505 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: quarterback exceeded expectations to the point where they signed him 506 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: to a reasonable contract extension. Now with pick five, you 507 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: can draft your future quarterback and Geno's your bridge until 508 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: that guy's right. Even if you don't, they can draft 509 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: a guy like Jalen Carter. That's true. I mean they're 510 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: the Seahawks. They look really smart, really smart and done 511 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: some good word and just ahead of it, you know 512 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: they Gino came through form big time, no question about it. 513 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 1: And and I'm telling you none of us believe that 514 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 1: was going to happen, but there it is. And now 515 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: they sign them to a three year extension at very 516 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: reasonable money on they've given them out of it is 517 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: up front. But yes, and and and in a position 518 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: to get better if they can hit on draft picks 519 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: that are that should be not that difficult to get. Right, 520 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: we have to go to break here. But before we do, 521 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 1: topic of discussion today, what would be a realistic wild 522 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: card move the Bills could pull off this offseason, something 523 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: you think might catch people by surprise. Maybe it's a trade, 524 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: Maybe it's you know, somebody coming in that you didn't expect, 525 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: like last year. Von Miller is a perfect example of that. 526 00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 1: But we're looking for a realistic wild card move, not 527 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 1: something that seems too outlanders or you know the money 528 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: is going to be too much for the Bills. Give 529 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: us some keen move that you've contemplated that you think 530 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: is realistic for the Bills this offseason. Eight three fifty 531 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 1: one fifty two, five fifty the number to get on board. 532 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: We got an open line for you there and we'll 533 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: take your phone calls when we return here on One 534 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: Bills Live presented by Kalida Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio. 535 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 1: All right, welcome back to one Bills Live. Chris Brown, 536 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you. Tom Brady has spoken in response 537 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 1: to the tweet yesterday that went out that he might 538 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 1: not be done after all with his playing career in 539 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: the NFL. That according to the Rich Eyes and Show, 540 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 1: who was talking about rumblings they heard in Indie to 541 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,479 Speaker 1: keep an eye on Miami concerning Tom Brady. Brady has 542 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 1: responded did tweeting the following about ten minutes ago. Anyone 543 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 1: who thinks I have time to come back to the 544 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: NFL has never adopted a two month old kitten for 545 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: their daughter, Tom indicating that he does not have time 546 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 1: for NFL football because of the kitten. And I'm not 547 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 1: gonna come back. I'm not gonna come back and make 548 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 1: thirty eight million dollars. I've got a kitten at home. 549 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: Yeah right, somebody needs to screen save that tweet. Bro, 550 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: See how that one ages, which that you know what 551 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 1: that means. That means that Stephen Ross has not offered 552 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 1: ownership yet again. Yeah, he's like that. It means it 553 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: doesn't mean no, It means doesn't mean no, I'm not 554 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: coming back. It means no, that offers not good enough. Yeah, 555 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: that's what that means. I heard Howard and Jeremy on 556 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 1: here in Buffalo, or wasn't Howard, Sorry, Jeremy and Joe 557 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: forced a habit. Jeremy and Joe on this morning, and 558 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: they were mentioning how Monday, this coming Monday, is the 559 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: anniversary of when Tom Brady unretired. So just keep that 560 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 1: in the back of your mind over the course of 561 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: the week, see how far we get and how that 562 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: tweet ages as we move through the week. But we 563 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: do want to get to the phones at eight oh 564 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: three oh five fifty one fifty two, five fifties. We're 565 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: asking you today what would be a realistic wildcard move 566 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: the Bills could make this off season. Any idea is 567 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 1: fair game. So we go to the phones and we 568 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: go to Clarence and Buffalo to start us off, what 569 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 1: do you have for his Clarence good afternoon, guys. How 570 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 1: are you doing well? Um? I just wanted to elaborate 571 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: on the Tom Brady and the Aaron Rodgers. Oh yeah, 572 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 1: go for it. First of all with Tom now with 573 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 1: Tom Brady, but with Aaron Rodgers. He's under contract with 574 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 1: the Green Bay and he's pulled us off with them 575 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 1: for the past couple of years of holding holding them 576 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: hostage per se. And one of the things that I 577 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: would like to see is NFL owners do their thing 578 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:23,800 Speaker 1: against them, stop letting these guys do hold them hostage. 579 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,320 Speaker 1: I would you know, I know they don't want to 580 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 1: lose money, but just a million dollars, I'd have to say, Okay, 581 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 1: you don't want to play for us, you signed the contract, 582 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 1: then you won't play. I'm not trading you. I'm not 583 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 1: doing anything. You just have to sit out the year 584 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 1: and and it may go on for a while, but 585 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 1: at least, you know, we started to stop these guys 586 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 1: from doing things to How can I put it to you, 587 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 1: just as far as it's just unreal listening to the 588 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: way that they're going about doing it. As far as 589 00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 1: I'm concerned as a person retiring, If a person retires 590 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 1: and puts the paperwork in then they shouldn't be allowed 591 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 1: to come back for a year at least you said, 592 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 1: because you don't, you're retiring, and that's the name of 593 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: the game. I'll hang up and let you guys talk 594 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 1: about I get what you mean, Clarence Um, it's it 595 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 1: should be. It's tedious, and there's a lot of money 596 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 1: and a lot of other people's lives that are affected 597 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 1: by a quarterback like Aaron Rodgers flirting with retirement, not 598 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 1: the least of which is Jordan Love his air apparent 599 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,359 Speaker 1: and the Green Bay Packers organization. I get it. It's 600 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:39,800 Speaker 1: it's frustrating for fans. It seems petty, it seems juvenile 601 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 1: to to do this every offseason. But there's no way 602 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 1: around that. There's just no way to get away from 603 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:52,839 Speaker 1: having these players exercise their free will. Aaron Rodgers may 604 00:35:52,960 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 1: seriously be considering retirement and he made unconsiderate I mean 605 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 1: me come back. But it's his choice and whatever consequences 606 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 1: you can attach that. So if Tom Brady retired last year, 607 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,359 Speaker 1: then decided not to retire, and you say, well if 608 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,279 Speaker 1: he filled out of the simple fact of the matter 609 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,360 Speaker 1: is Tom Brady never filled out the retirement paper. I 610 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 1: mean it's it's a simple form. It was when I 611 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 1: did it. You sign off to say I'm retiring, and 612 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,799 Speaker 1: you sign a statement a form that the league has. 613 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 1: It's it's very simple, like one paragraph statement. You signed 614 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 1: the bottom of it you're retired. Nobody'd done that, Aaron Rodgers, 615 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 1: Tom Brady, nobody. I don't even know if Gronkowski has 616 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 1: done that yet. So you just until they do that, 617 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 1: there's nothing says they can't. And even after they do 618 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 1: that in the current state, it doesn't matter, they can 619 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 1: come back and sign they still the rights will still 620 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,320 Speaker 1: be held by the other team, the older team. So 621 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,920 Speaker 1: and locking a player out if they're talking like this, 622 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 1: that doesn't work either because their union protected. The NFLPA 623 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 1: would be all over that team like White on Rice. Yeah, 624 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 1: there's just there's no way to get all of that done. 625 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:13,759 Speaker 1: I mean, I see how you know a lot of 626 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,840 Speaker 1: people would fall into that category and say, yeah you should, 627 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,439 Speaker 1: you know, don't want to jerk in your team team around. Yeah, 628 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 1: but I get the frustration. There's just no way around it. Yeah, 629 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 1: I get the frustration, Clarence, but this is the kind 630 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 1: of power the quarterbacks wield in the NFL these days. 631 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,800 Speaker 1: And their movement around the league is a testament to that. 632 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,880 Speaker 1: And we're probably going to see more movement in the 633 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 1: fact the game of musical chairs every offseason and the 634 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,320 Speaker 1: fact that we only talk about the quarterbacks gives you 635 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 1: an idea of why they have that much power. Yeah, 636 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't care if Zeke Elliott does it, 637 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, And we don't care if you know, 638 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,360 Speaker 1: we don't care if you know, Devin Singletary does it, 639 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 1: or we don't care if DK Metcalf does it. You 640 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,240 Speaker 1: know what do we care? But if it's a quarterback 641 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,960 Speaker 1: who's got back to back mv P guy or multi 642 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 1: MBP guy, yeah, we kind of do have We do 643 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,360 Speaker 1: care about that, so they kind of get what they deserve. 644 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 1: Let's go to Brian in Toronto next. What do you 645 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 1: got for us? Brian? You're on one Bill's Live. Hey, guys, 646 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,920 Speaker 1: thanks for having me. Sure. I just think, you know, 647 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 1: the one of the Bills most glaring needs is to 648 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 1: have a legit wide receiver too. I think Dave Davis 649 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 1: hasn't shown me or anybody really that he's that guy. 650 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 1: And I think with DeAndre Hopkins, you know, on the 651 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 1: trade block for the bills to offer up a second 652 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:35,839 Speaker 1: or maybe even a third round pick. I think you're 653 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 1: gonna get them. Obviously, there's some salary concerns there, but 654 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,280 Speaker 1: I think you could restructure. There's a number of bills 655 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 1: I heard early on in the off seasons that have 656 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,759 Speaker 1: contracts that are the prime for restructuring. And anything you 657 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 1: can do to get another, you know, top flight receiver 658 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 1: in here, I think would help the team immensely. Yeah, 659 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:55,759 Speaker 1: I love you, hear your thoughts. Yeah, I mean, I 660 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 1: like the idea, and I do agree with you. They 661 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 1: need a true number or two to add to this 662 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:08,240 Speaker 1: offense you've got. I mean, Gabe Davis is a player 663 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,399 Speaker 1: you like to have on your roster, but I think 664 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 1: at the high end he's a three and at the 665 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 1: low end he's a four in the pecking order of 666 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 1: a receiving corps, and I think he can be productive 667 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:21,920 Speaker 1: for you in that role as a thirty five forty 668 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 1: catch a year guy for six seven touchdowns. That's good 669 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 1: production out of a third or fourth wide receiver. And 670 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 1: I love Gabe Davis, but I think you need to 671 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 1: upgrade the receiving corps with another proven producer on a 672 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 1: weekly basis. DeAndre Hopkins would certainly be that he's entering 673 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:44,799 Speaker 1: his age thirty one season, so he's just a year 674 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 1: older than Diggs and his base salary is nineteen four. 675 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,279 Speaker 1: That's pretty steep knowing the work that the Bills have 676 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 1: to do just to get cap compliant number one and 677 00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,879 Speaker 1: then make room to resign enough people to fill out 678 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:04,440 Speaker 1: a roster, let alone make any big waves in free agency. 679 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 1: Brandon Bean did say it in his season ramp up 680 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,839 Speaker 1: press conference. Don't look for us to do any big 681 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:13,319 Speaker 1: moves like a Von Miller type deal. Does this rise 682 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,799 Speaker 1: to that level. Probably not. He's only got two years 683 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 1: left on his current contract at relatively relatively affordable receiver money. 684 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 1: The question is what can the Bills do with that 685 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 1: contract if they were able to swing a deal, and 686 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,240 Speaker 1: what is the price tag? Because you got to remember, 687 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 1: and I don't get me wrong, I think Arizona would 688 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 1: be open to trading for draft choices because they need 689 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,839 Speaker 1: to retool and rebuild that roster in a big way, 690 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,960 Speaker 1: particularly on the defensive side of the ball, and so 691 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,919 Speaker 1: parting with an aging asset like a DeAndre Hopkins would 692 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,879 Speaker 1: make sense for them, and putting him on a team 693 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:52,839 Speaker 1: like the Bills who's ready to win a Super Bowl 694 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,759 Speaker 1: would make sense too. I think you've got to get 695 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,320 Speaker 1: an assurance from Hopkins and maybe at least add a 696 00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 1: year to his contract to spread that money out a 697 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,520 Speaker 1: little bit and maybe give him a little bonus in 698 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:07,879 Speaker 1: his pocket to make him amenable to that. Then it's 699 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:09,879 Speaker 1: what does it take. Is it a second round pick 700 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 1: or is it a little bit more. I don't know. 701 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 1: If I'm giving up a one for a thirty one 702 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 1: year old receiver, right even even two, I would do it. 703 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,359 Speaker 1: And here's the thing too. You could spread that money 704 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 1: out over five years, give him the exact same money, 705 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,959 Speaker 1: but guarantee all of it, and then he might be, okay, 706 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 1: I'll give it. I'll give you what I got, and 707 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:28,279 Speaker 1: then over you can spread it out over the course 708 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 1: of five years and give and get assurances from him. 709 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:32,480 Speaker 1: He's going to try and play for three of it, 710 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 1: and then by that time the caps up and you 711 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,600 Speaker 1: can kind of live with it. You might be able 712 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 1: to do that, because here's the thing. He doesn't he shouldn't, 713 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,719 Speaker 1: and he won't care if he gets if he's due 714 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,799 Speaker 1: seventeen million this year, but he's got no guarantees left 715 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,480 Speaker 1: on the deal. You say, listen, we'll sign you to 716 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:55,239 Speaker 1: a three year deal worth thirty five million, and will 717 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:59,840 Speaker 1: guarantee that seventeen million of it over the course of 718 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,400 Speaker 1: that you know, four year, half year deal. Keep the 719 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,279 Speaker 1: money the same, but guarantee more of it. He knows 720 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,279 Speaker 1: he's putting it, and spread it out, spread it out, 721 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 1: you know, And that's he'll be a he guaranteed to 722 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 1: get it at some point. And what do you care about, Brian? 723 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:18,160 Speaker 1: Long story short, and probably it's realistic and it would 724 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,440 Speaker 1: be a coup if they could pull it off. So 725 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,200 Speaker 1: he's a great sign me up for that. He's a 726 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,520 Speaker 1: really good player. Him opposite Diggs. I mean, now, now 727 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 1: you're in the stratosphere of what the Dolphins have as 728 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,759 Speaker 1: a one two combination and hill and Waddle and you 729 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,080 Speaker 1: have a better quarterback thrown to it. And here's the 730 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,600 Speaker 1: thing too, about Gabe Davis. I'm I'm you know he 731 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,080 Speaker 1: had like sixty five catches last year. No he did not, 732 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,960 Speaker 1: he had forty eight. Yeah, you want him, you want 733 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,880 Speaker 1: him as a number two, and he played more snaps 734 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,320 Speaker 1: than anybody what that wasn't named Diggs. He's got to 735 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,040 Speaker 1: keep the ball more and I don't know whether, And 736 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 1: you can make an argument about he's the number two, 737 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 1: so Diggs was getting more fine all of that, but man, 738 00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 1: oh man, you need more production. And I'm not saying Gabe. 739 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:03,759 Speaker 1: It's not in there for Gabe Davis to give. He 740 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:05,839 Speaker 1: doesn't have that in the tank. Probably if he gives it, great, 741 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,080 Speaker 1: but I'm not banking on that. After he didn't deliver 742 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:12,120 Speaker 1: last year. I got upgrade. You have to. He needs 743 00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,000 Speaker 1: to be more efficient and get more production now. So 744 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,120 Speaker 1: that's why you look at a guy like Deon right now, 745 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,160 Speaker 1: if John Ry comes in, he's out the same numbers 746 00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 1: at the two that Davis did, well, then it's not them, 747 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,839 Speaker 1: it's something else. Yeah, we gotta take a break here, 748 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,040 Speaker 1: but more of your phone calls when we return here 749 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:28,920 Speaker 1: on one Bill's Live, presented by Collot of Health. It's 750 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:45,360 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right, Right back to the phones 751 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,400 Speaker 1: we go. As we're asking you what would be a 752 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,239 Speaker 1: realistic wildcard move the Bills could make this offseason to 753 00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:54,200 Speaker 1: improve the roster. We go to Rassan in West Seneca. 754 00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,200 Speaker 1: What do you guy for us? Rossan? Yes, so I 755 00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:01,919 Speaker 1: was thinking there. Thanks for having me on about Mike 756 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:05,040 Speaker 1: Evans from Tampa Bay. I think he's a free agent. 757 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 1: I think he's got one year left on his contract. 758 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:13,439 Speaker 1: But it's affordable, thirteen million base salary, that's all you'd 759 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 1: be taking on. Yeah, I like that idea if you 760 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:18,200 Speaker 1: can fit it. But you got some work to do 761 00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:22,480 Speaker 1: before that'll happen, because they're over right now. Oh okay, okay, 762 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,319 Speaker 1: gotta get cap compliant first, but they're going to I mean, 763 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,719 Speaker 1: they gotta get cap compliant. How far they can go 764 00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,480 Speaker 1: to get underneath that remains to be seen. They still 765 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,360 Speaker 1: have to fill out their roster, so they're gonna have 766 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,200 Speaker 1: to do some work. But yeah, but you can get 767 00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:36,920 Speaker 1: creative and find a way to do this. Yeah, if 768 00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:38,960 Speaker 1: you could, if you can break that contract out. He's 769 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 1: only thirty years old, right, is he? Now? Is he 770 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,440 Speaker 1: gonna be? Are they gonna release him or is he 771 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 1: gonna be? No, he's got a year left on his contract, 772 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,279 Speaker 1: But they got to turn that roster over, right, I 773 00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:50,800 Speaker 1: mean I had heard rumors they might release him to 774 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:54,799 Speaker 1: get Camp to help them. Yeah, well, if that happens, then, yeah, 775 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,000 Speaker 1: now you're talking a whole different ball game. Of course, 776 00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,680 Speaker 1: that puts another thirty one teams into play. Maybe maybe 777 00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:02,640 Speaker 1: what you do is you call him and say, hey, 778 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,120 Speaker 1: you know what would it take to get Mike Evans 779 00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 1: off your roster and onto hours. You know, we'll even 780 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,239 Speaker 1: sign him to an extension, and you know, give him whatever, 781 00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,560 Speaker 1: give him a two because here's how I look at it. 782 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:17,200 Speaker 1: Mike Evans is gonna give you a whole lot more 783 00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,040 Speaker 1: than a second round draft choice, and this year's draft 784 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,879 Speaker 1: is gonna give you at the receiver position. Receiver position, Yes, 785 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:26,520 Speaker 1: that's true. And he's more affordable than DeAndre Hopkins. He's 786 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:30,800 Speaker 1: making thirteen million base this year, so that's what you 787 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:36,000 Speaker 1: would inherit. And then you say, look, thirteen million whatever whatever, 788 00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,279 Speaker 1: we're gonna sign you to a two year extension, so 789 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,840 Speaker 1: it'll be a three year deal and we'll put that 790 00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:45,600 Speaker 1: thirteen million in your pocket right now and figure out 791 00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,320 Speaker 1: the rest, you know what I mean? So absolutely, And 792 00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,000 Speaker 1: that's if you're Brandon Bean and you got this on 793 00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:55,760 Speaker 1: your plate. You're reaching out to DeAndre Hopkins in Arizona, 794 00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:57,880 Speaker 1: and you're reaching out to Mike cap you're eating Cardinals, 795 00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,160 Speaker 1: and you know all you're looking at all these guys 796 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,080 Speaker 1: and you're asking, what's this guy worth? What's this guy worth, 797 00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:03,919 Speaker 1: how do we feel and what's it gonna take? Yeah, 798 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,759 Speaker 1: and what's it gonna take? And and Sean McDermott and 799 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,800 Speaker 1: and Ken Dorsey, how do you feel about DeAndre Hopkins 800 00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:14,520 Speaker 1: as a composed as a compared to Mike Evans? Wish 801 00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:18,319 Speaker 1: you like better? What do you want? And both of them? 802 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,600 Speaker 1: Obviously you're gonna you're gonna feel like you're upgrading. But 803 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,319 Speaker 1: which guy you like better? You know that kind of thing. Um, 804 00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:26,440 Speaker 1: not that you can just go shopping and say, well, 805 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,080 Speaker 1: if this guy's you know, you got to the compensation 806 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:32,800 Speaker 1: is important, but man, you're busy. You gotta get it 807 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:36,440 Speaker 1: done and find out. But Steve's right, you gotta get 808 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:40,000 Speaker 1: a cab compliant first, and then you got to clear 809 00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,799 Speaker 1: some more space to sign either some of your own 810 00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,239 Speaker 1: free agents back to fill out your roster and then 811 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,279 Speaker 1: try to upgrade at the same time. And upgrading can 812 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:52,120 Speaker 1: get expensive, so especially at a position like receiver as 813 00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,319 Speaker 1: we see right here. So yeah, they they've got work 814 00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,640 Speaker 1: to do. They've got to be creative and they'll be 815 00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:02,399 Speaker 1: working on it for the next several days to try 816 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,600 Speaker 1: to see how far under the cap they can get 817 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:08,120 Speaker 1: to give themselves as much flexibility as possible to upgrade 818 00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,000 Speaker 1: the roster. Let's quickly go to Bob and Buffalo. What 819 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:14,560 Speaker 1: do you got for his? Bob? Good afternoon, gentlemen. We 820 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,240 Speaker 1: were talking about the Aaron Rodgers trade to the Jets, 821 00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,960 Speaker 1: and I have a spin on it that could be 822 00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:24,840 Speaker 1: maybe interesting to San Francisco. Have the Jets take Aaron 823 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:29,399 Speaker 1: Rodgers and then immediately trade him to San Francisco, which 824 00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:33,520 Speaker 1: makes San Francisco a Super Bowl team right away. Maybe 825 00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,920 Speaker 1: they get Jimmy Garoppolo back, and they can use some 826 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,400 Speaker 1: of that money, you know, under the cap space to 827 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,719 Speaker 1: get some other talent. Now. I don't know if it 828 00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:43,800 Speaker 1: would work, but Green Bay would never trade him to 829 00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:47,399 Speaker 1: San Francisco, but the Jets could maybe make out better 830 00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,719 Speaker 1: if they did something like that. How they I don't 831 00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,120 Speaker 1: see how they're better if they have Garoppolo at quarterback 832 00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,200 Speaker 1: instead of Rogers. That's the only thing that I get 833 00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,600 Speaker 1: more years. You're not going anywhere with Garoppolo, though. I 834 00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:03,120 Speaker 1: don't think Garoppolo's no better. He can't stay healthy, granted, 835 00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,800 Speaker 1: but you know you still get somebody that's an upgrade 836 00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:10,160 Speaker 1: to what you have now. Yeah, um, anything's an upgrade 837 00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,200 Speaker 1: from Zach Wilson. I agree with you there, Bob, But 838 00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,680 Speaker 1: my problem is Garoppolo can't stay healthy, and he was 839 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:17,920 Speaker 1: behind one of the better offensive lines in football in 840 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,439 Speaker 1: San Francisco. Now you're gonna put him behind the Jets 841 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,840 Speaker 1: line that couldn't stop, you know, I mean, couldn't They 842 00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:27,560 Speaker 1: like Turnstiles out, didn't think about it. You're gonna trade 843 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:33,399 Speaker 1: a boatload of stuff maybe for Aaron Rodgers to Green Bay, 844 00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,480 Speaker 1: and then what are you gonna get back? Are you 845 00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:39,040 Speaker 1: gonna get back that same boatload for Garoppolo and Aaron 846 00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,640 Speaker 1: Rodger You're gonna get their picks and Garoppolo you're gonna 847 00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,640 Speaker 1: get less picks and Garoppolo for what you just gave 848 00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,960 Speaker 1: up to get Rogers from Green Bay? I think, yeah, 849 00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:51,680 Speaker 1: the math doesn't wash for me. So and I respectfully say, 850 00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:55,239 Speaker 1: and I'll say this, what if you're and I don't 851 00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,160 Speaker 1: know the Jets work this way, but I would think 852 00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,200 Speaker 1: there's probably at least a voice in their head that says, so, 853 00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:04,279 Speaker 1: Jet fans are gonna love that you got Rogers, and 854 00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:08,200 Speaker 1: then they're gonna love more that you got Garoppolo for Rogers. 855 00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:14,880 Speaker 1: That Jet fans would throw a rock through your window. 856 00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:18,759 Speaker 1: I would think, yeah, that's not gonna fly. Yeah, I 857 00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:22,960 Speaker 1: get the double trade idea, but Rogers and then no, 858 00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,719 Speaker 1: I know it doesn't make sense. That doesn't make sense 859 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,160 Speaker 1: to me. We gotta take a break here because when 860 00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,480 Speaker 1: we come back our number two, we're gonna talk a 861 00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:35,080 Speaker 1: little draft with ESPN NFL Draft analyst Jordan Reed. He 862 00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,239 Speaker 1: joins us for our number two. We'll dice it up next. 863 00:49:37,280 --> 00:50:27,480 Speaker 1: You're on one Bill's Live. Stay tuned these One Bill's 864 00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:32,040 Speaker 1: Live presented by Called Light of Health. All right, welcome 865 00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:34,320 Speaker 1: back to our number two one Bills Live here on 866 00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:36,680 Speaker 1: a Tuesday, Chris Brown, Steve tasking with you. Please to 867 00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:41,160 Speaker 1: be joined now by ESPN NFL draft analyst draft writer, 868 00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,400 Speaker 1: fresh off of his attendance at the NFL Combine. It 869 00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:48,399 Speaker 1: is Jordan rejoining us. Jordan, how you doing, Hey, guys, 870 00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,240 Speaker 1: thanks for having me. I'm great. I want to start 871 00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,600 Speaker 1: here because we coming out of the combine. We hear, 872 00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:57,520 Speaker 1: oh this guy, he killed it. He's a riser, he's 873 00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:01,640 Speaker 1: moving up boards. I want to know who did not 874 00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:05,680 Speaker 1: maybe do enough, or because of what they chose not 875 00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,520 Speaker 1: to do in the workouts, still has the most to 876 00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:12,200 Speaker 1: prove come their pro day. You know, coming up here 877 00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:15,880 Speaker 1: in March or early April. I think it's fair to 878 00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,239 Speaker 1: say Bryce Young would be the answer to that, just 879 00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:22,280 Speaker 1: because of the big four quarterbacks at the top, himself, 880 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,600 Speaker 1: Will Levis, Anthony Richardson, and also C. J. Stroud. He 881 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,600 Speaker 1: was the only one out of the group that did 882 00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,640 Speaker 1: not participate in the throwing session, And I think all 883 00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,920 Speaker 1: those guys really helped themselves just because they showed, they 884 00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,800 Speaker 1: went out there and they competed. But with Bryce, obviously 885 00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,080 Speaker 1: he was using the past few months to bulk up 886 00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,719 Speaker 1: the weight and then also the height that was the 887 00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:42,839 Speaker 1: big questions about him. He ended up coming in at 888 00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,320 Speaker 1: five ten and a half two hundred and four pounds, 889 00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:48,720 Speaker 1: which is pretty identical to Kyler Murray. But he's gonna 890 00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,000 Speaker 1: now use that time to probably slim back down so 891 00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,440 Speaker 1: he can throw at Alabama's Pro day coming up on 892 00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:57,919 Speaker 1: the twenty third, not only throw Jordan, but run right. Yeah, 893 00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:02,040 Speaker 1: absolutely had he had a lot of water weight, yeah, 894 00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:07,080 Speaker 1: a lot of fast food. Do you think he'll weigh 895 00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:10,680 Speaker 1: into this pro day? Kind I doubt it. I mean 896 00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:14,120 Speaker 1: it's probably it's probably a one stop shot. With that 897 00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:16,480 Speaker 1: he already measured in at two hundred and four pounds. 898 00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,520 Speaker 1: He satisfied everybody's requirements. Now he just has to go 899 00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,760 Speaker 1: do the testing then also throw. So if he doesn't 900 00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:26,320 Speaker 1: weigh in, it's it becomes painfully obvious that his weight's 901 00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:28,640 Speaker 1: an issue. I mean, there was rumors going around that 902 00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,360 Speaker 1: he was down to like a buck seventy for the Championship, 903 00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:33,680 Speaker 1: for the bowl game that he played in for Alabama, 904 00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,759 Speaker 1: and now he's at two oh four. Um, he's just 905 00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:40,320 Speaker 1: on the cusp of being, you know, vulnerable because of 906 00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:42,760 Speaker 1: his size and weight. Two big hits in the NFL, 907 00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:47,239 Speaker 1: certainly Kyler Murray this year, notwithstanding he's been able to 908 00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:52,120 Speaker 1: do it. But now he's hurt? Is he now? Obviously 909 00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:55,800 Speaker 1: mentally they say he's off the charts. Awesome guy, great quarterback, 910 00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,560 Speaker 1: good enough arm, but what about you know, what about 911 00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:03,719 Speaker 1: his atcher and how do you think that translates. That's 912 00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,160 Speaker 1: gonna be the big question about his career. Kenny with 913 00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:10,120 Speaker 1: stand and Canny hold up. Just because everybody's seeing Bryce, 914 00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,880 Speaker 1: he's not as thick as some of the shorter quarterbacks 915 00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:15,960 Speaker 1: that we have seen in recent memory, Drew Brees, Russell Wilson, 916 00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,720 Speaker 1: and also Kyler Murray. As you've mentioned, he just doesn't 917 00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,759 Speaker 1: have the same dimensions as those shorter guys, So that's 918 00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,719 Speaker 1: gonna be the big question about him. Kenny withstand a 919 00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,560 Speaker 1: seventeen game season as well as a playoff run. That's 920 00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:29,600 Speaker 1: something we're not going to find out until his career. 921 00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:33,879 Speaker 1: I know, in one of your recent mocks, you pick 922 00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,759 Speaker 1: Brian Branch I believe from Alabama for the Bills at 923 00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:41,920 Speaker 1: twenty seven, and safety is a position that they're going 924 00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,279 Speaker 1: to need to add numbers. Quite frankly, it's not just 925 00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:48,040 Speaker 1: Jordan Poyer, it's Jakwon Johnson's contracts up, so too is 926 00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:50,480 Speaker 1: Dean Marlow. And we still don't know what the situation 927 00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:55,920 Speaker 1: is for Damorrow Hamlin's future playing career. Branch though, seems 928 00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,920 Speaker 1: to be a guy that has a number of split 929 00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:02,520 Speaker 1: opinions on is he a nickel, is he a safety? 930 00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:06,799 Speaker 1: Can he be both? Based on the workout that he had, 931 00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,840 Speaker 1: what are some of the returns that you're hearing on 932 00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:16,759 Speaker 1: him and where he might fit best in an NFL defense. Well, 933 00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:19,040 Speaker 1: the workout wasn't as good because a lot of people 934 00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:22,040 Speaker 1: were expecting from a testing standpoint, but he did test 935 00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,960 Speaker 1: with the corners and a lot of people classify him 936 00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,160 Speaker 1: as a nickel corner, but I think he's more so 937 00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:29,600 Speaker 1: as a safety, and he also can play nickel corner 938 00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:31,640 Speaker 1: as well, so there's a lot of different hats that 939 00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,319 Speaker 1: he can wear. But I just think it was him 940 00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:37,919 Speaker 1: being surrounded by faster players at a position where guys 941 00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,040 Speaker 1: are gonna run flat fast, They're gonna run four threes, 942 00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:41,799 Speaker 1: they're gonna run four four, and I think he ended 943 00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,319 Speaker 1: up his best time was four four eight if I'm 944 00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:47,400 Speaker 1: not mistaken. But if he runs with the safeties, now 945 00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,640 Speaker 1: you're talking about him having one of the better times 946 00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:51,680 Speaker 1: of the day. So I think it was just him 947 00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,640 Speaker 1: being surrounded by faster players that kind of made his 948 00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:57,200 Speaker 1: workout seem underwhelming. But I thought he was fine from 949 00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,839 Speaker 1: an on field drill perspective. But what you're getting as 950 00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:02,280 Speaker 1: a player, you're getting a very fast and physical player. 951 00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:05,080 Speaker 1: And if you just listen to Nick Saban talk about 952 00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:08,320 Speaker 1: Brian Branch, he raves about him. He played that infamous 953 00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:11,359 Speaker 1: star spot that we've seen in years past with Menca 954 00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:14,719 Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick and plenty of other very savvy defensive backs that 955 00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:17,080 Speaker 1: have come out of Alabama. So even though he played, 956 00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,239 Speaker 1: he may not play one of the premier positions like 957 00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:23,360 Speaker 1: corner or edge rusher or quarterback. You think he is 958 00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:28,400 Speaker 1: he's a first round guy. Yeah, I think he is, 959 00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:30,640 Speaker 1: and I think he can be a Day one starter 960 00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,480 Speaker 1: at NICOL. But also, even though he hasn't shown that 961 00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:34,880 Speaker 1: he can do it, I think he can be a 962 00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,319 Speaker 1: free safety or a strong safety. I don't think there's 963 00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:40,279 Speaker 1: a position in the secondary outside of outside corner that 964 00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:44,200 Speaker 1: he cannot play and survive at on the next level. Okay, 965 00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:47,160 Speaker 1: going back to some of the guys that didn't do 966 00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:50,920 Speaker 1: everything at the workouts, we know Jackson Smith and Jigba 967 00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:55,720 Speaker 1: did everything but run. By all accounts, his workout was solid, 968 00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:58,239 Speaker 1: kind of cemented himself as one of the better route 969 00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:02,360 Speaker 1: runners in the class. What let me put it to 970 00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:04,319 Speaker 1: you this way? I mean, because some people still think 971 00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:07,920 Speaker 1: he's probably a late first round pick at worst. If 972 00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:12,000 Speaker 1: he comes out and runs sub four four five, because 973 00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:13,520 Speaker 1: I know he's not a blazer, But if he gets 974 00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:16,160 Speaker 1: under four four five, what does that do to his stock? 975 00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:20,719 Speaker 1: You think? I think he's probably gonna end up going 976 00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:23,680 Speaker 1: top twenty no matter what, just because I was blown 977 00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:26,320 Speaker 1: away by his workout. It's the best on field workout 978 00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,280 Speaker 1: from a wide receiver that I've seen since Justin Jefferson 979 00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,880 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty and he showed no signs of the 980 00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:35,439 Speaker 1: lingering hamstring injury that kept him out of only playing 981 00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,480 Speaker 1: in three games the season ago. And if you think 982 00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,680 Speaker 1: about it, when we did see him at his top 983 00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:42,680 Speaker 1: form in twenty twenty one, everybody rables about the big 984 00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:45,160 Speaker 1: game in the Rolls Bowl against Utah and rightfully sold. 985 00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,840 Speaker 1: But he was in a wide receiver room with Garrett Wilson, 986 00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:50,120 Speaker 1: crist Olive and plenty of other players that we talked 987 00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:53,000 Speaker 1: that we'll be talking about in the future, Marvin Harrison Junior, 988 00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:56,600 Speaker 1: Emmanuel Buca and all these great Ohio state wide receivers 989 00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:58,800 Speaker 1: that have come out of there. He outproduced all of 990 00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,000 Speaker 1: those guys. He set a program record and catch us 991 00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:04,080 Speaker 1: and then also receiving yards. But his lead up to 992 00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:06,759 Speaker 1: the draft is very reminiscent of Justin Jefferson to me, 993 00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:09,359 Speaker 1: just because if you think about Justin Jefferson, the big 994 00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:11,399 Speaker 1: knock on him was that he was a slot guy only. 995 00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,319 Speaker 1: But I think it was just because that he had 996 00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:17,480 Speaker 1: so many guys around him, Terrace Marshall, Jamar Chase, and 997 00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:20,760 Speaker 1: we're seeing a similar circumstance with Jackson Smith and Jigbu 998 00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:23,960 Speaker 1: so and you put him in in the conversation with 999 00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:27,600 Speaker 1: this draft class. So you've got in Jigba, You've got 1000 00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:31,280 Speaker 1: Quintin Johnson, and you've got maybe like a Zay Flowers 1001 00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:33,760 Speaker 1: type of guy. Which of those three, if any of them, 1002 00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:38,760 Speaker 1: differentiated himself in this combine? Is there a guy who 1003 00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:42,360 Speaker 1: is Well, we've said this, this draft class of receivers 1004 00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,520 Speaker 1: doesn't really have an alpha guy, right, How do these 1005 00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:50,320 Speaker 1: guys differentiate themselves? I mean, it just really depends on 1006 00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:52,520 Speaker 1: what you're looking for in these wide receivers. I don't 1007 00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:56,760 Speaker 1: think anybody at the top was just desperately or underwhelming 1008 00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:58,920 Speaker 1: outside of Jordan Addison. A lot of people were expecting 1009 00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:00,960 Speaker 1: him to run a little bit faster than what he 1010 00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:02,520 Speaker 1: did at four four nine, But I think he was 1011 00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:04,880 Speaker 1: plenty fine. I think what he showed on tape, I 1012 00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:07,120 Speaker 1: think that's exactly what he showed at the combine. But 1013 00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:10,360 Speaker 1: with this class, we've been so spoiled with great wide 1014 00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:13,040 Speaker 1: receiver classes over the last four or five years. This 1015 00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:14,960 Speaker 1: class is still good, but it's just not up to 1016 00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:17,320 Speaker 1: the standards that we have seen in years pass. So 1017 00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:19,280 Speaker 1: a lot of people are saying that it's a bit underwhelming. 1018 00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:21,560 Speaker 1: I kind of disagree with that, just because if you're 1019 00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:24,960 Speaker 1: looking for that complimentary wide receiver two, if you already 1020 00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:27,280 Speaker 1: have alpha like a Stefan Diggs, I think this is 1021 00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:30,600 Speaker 1: the exact type of class that you're looking for. And 1022 00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:34,960 Speaker 1: Jordan's the offensive line group. There's some tackles that will 1023 00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,080 Speaker 1: probably go before the bills are even on the clock. 1024 00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:40,240 Speaker 1: You know, guys like Broderick Jones and Paris Johnson are 1025 00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:44,000 Speaker 1: probably long gone. Is there a drop off after those 1026 00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:47,360 Speaker 1: two or is there anybody are that is remotely near 1027 00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:51,400 Speaker 1: those guys at the tackle position that might justify a 1028 00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:57,120 Speaker 1: value at twenty seven. Yeah, this group is really top heavy, honestly, 1029 00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:59,479 Speaker 1: and I think we could see as many as six 1030 00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:01,800 Speaker 1: off tackles go in the first round. And you talk 1031 00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:05,280 Speaker 1: about Skronski Johnson Junior, and then also brought Erick Jones. 1032 00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:07,840 Speaker 1: Those are your big three at the top. But after that, 1033 00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:11,640 Speaker 1: I think Donald Wright and Anton Harrison I think they 1034 00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:14,440 Speaker 1: absolutely submented themselves as first round selections. And then you're 1035 00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:17,600 Speaker 1: talking about Dawan Jones from Ohio State and the feedback 1036 00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:19,280 Speaker 1: that I got a lot of people said, there's just 1037 00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:21,640 Speaker 1: no way that he gets outside of the first round, 1038 00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:24,320 Speaker 1: especially when you're six foot eight, three hundred and seventy 1039 00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:26,360 Speaker 1: four pounds, and then you move the way that he's 1040 00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:28,880 Speaker 1: been doing. He dominated at the Senior Bowl, and then 1041 00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:31,640 Speaker 1: he put some really good reps on tape this past 1042 00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:34,479 Speaker 1: season two. So I think by the end of the draft, 1043 00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:36,400 Speaker 1: excuse me, by the end of the night one, I 1044 00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:39,080 Speaker 1: think we could see as many as six offensive tackles 1045 00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:40,680 Speaker 1: go in the first round. That may be, and I 1046 00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:43,120 Speaker 1: kind of agree with you. I think those even if 1047 00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:47,120 Speaker 1: some of these offensive tackles or slotted into guard at 1048 00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:51,320 Speaker 1: the pro level, they're built so that they can really 1049 00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:53,840 Speaker 1: not only hold their own I think in this first round, 1050 00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,760 Speaker 1: more so than any other round recent class coming out, 1051 00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:00,240 Speaker 1: there may be a run on offensive lineman like we 1052 01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:02,160 Speaker 1: haven't seen in a long time. A lot. There's a 1053 01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:05,640 Speaker 1: ton of guys with traits that could go in the 1054 01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:08,320 Speaker 1: first round just because of the way they present themselves 1055 01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:14,040 Speaker 1: physically and this and Duan Jones is a perfect example. Yeah, 1056 01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:16,160 Speaker 1: I'm right there with you, especially when you I think 1057 01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:18,760 Speaker 1: there's a bit of a precipitous drop off after those guys, 1058 01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:21,480 Speaker 1: just because you get into the equation or you beg 1059 01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:23,400 Speaker 1: the question is he a guard or is he a tackle. 1060 01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:26,000 Speaker 1: I think there's more so of those tackle body types, 1061 01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:28,400 Speaker 1: and of course, with it being a premium position, there's 1062 01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:30,480 Speaker 1: always going to be teams that reach for those tackles 1063 01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:33,640 Speaker 1: in the first round. Do you think Darnell right is 1064 01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:37,280 Speaker 1: right tackle only, I mean, I know that's where he 1065 01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:40,560 Speaker 1: played at Tennessee, or do you think there are Does 1066 01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:42,320 Speaker 1: he have the feat to be on the left side too, 1067 01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:45,520 Speaker 1: or is he strictly a right tackle? I think he 1068 01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:48,040 Speaker 1: can play either. I think of any offensive lineman in 1069 01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:50,160 Speaker 1: this class, he looked the best at the combine and 1070 01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:53,080 Speaker 1: just seeing him move around. This was my third time 1071 01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:55,160 Speaker 1: actually seeing him a close so I saw him against 1072 01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:57,800 Speaker 1: South Carolina earlier this year when I went to live 1073 01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:00,280 Speaker 1: scout him and I was I was floored by high 1074 01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:02,400 Speaker 1: will he moved and there was a lot of questions 1075 01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:05,840 Speaker 1: about his athleticism coming into the season, but he steadily 1076 01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:08,520 Speaker 1: continued to get better. He's he was a big time 1077 01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:11,600 Speaker 1: recruit actually coming into Tennessee, had some weight troubles, had 1078 01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:13,840 Speaker 1: to slim down a little bit, but over his past 1079 01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:16,040 Speaker 1: two seasons at Tennessee, I thought he played lights out 1080 01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:19,000 Speaker 1: and of any offensive tackle in this class, He's went 1081 01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:21,720 Speaker 1: through the gauntlet of players that he's had to play against. 1082 01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:24,400 Speaker 1: He went against Will Anderson, played really well against him. 1083 01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:27,520 Speaker 1: Bj Ojalari from LSU, who's getting some first round bus, 1084 01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:30,040 Speaker 1: played really well against him. And then in his final 1085 01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:32,880 Speaker 1: game against Clemson, he went up against Brian Berci, who 1086 01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,360 Speaker 1: was also projected to be another first round player, and 1087 01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:38,360 Speaker 1: right was fantastic against all of those guys. So you 1088 01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:40,040 Speaker 1: get right to the top of this You take the 1089 01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:43,680 Speaker 1: position rankings or the positions off these guys. He get 1090 01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:45,760 Speaker 1: right to the top of the draft. And we heard 1091 01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:49,160 Speaker 1: some things over the course of the combine about Jalen 1092 01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:53,120 Speaker 1: Carter and the tragedy that happened in Alabama or any 1093 01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:56,640 Speaker 1: of these guys. I mean, what's your thought about the 1094 01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:59,360 Speaker 1: top guys in the draft. I know that Chicago is 1095 01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:01,880 Speaker 1: mayor may not be the first team that drafts. They're 1096 01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:04,080 Speaker 1: there now, it looks like they're shopping that pick around. 1097 01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:07,200 Speaker 1: What's your gut feeling tell you about the tippy top 1098 01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:11,640 Speaker 1: of this draft? Oh, it's not as strong as we 1099 01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:14,200 Speaker 1: have seen in years past. I don't think outside of 1100 01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:17,320 Speaker 1: Will Anderson and Jalen Carter, there's no bona fide guys 1101 01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:19,760 Speaker 1: that you know, we're going to step in and be 1102 01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:22,440 Speaker 1: superstars like we have seen even going back to last season. 1103 01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:25,440 Speaker 1: I don't think there's a Sauce Gardener or Derek Stingley. 1104 01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:28,320 Speaker 1: There's no types of players like that in this draft class. 1105 01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:30,960 Speaker 1: But if you're looking for depth or to build depth 1106 01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:33,280 Speaker 1: on your roster, I think this is the draft for you. 1107 01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:35,520 Speaker 1: We're gonna see some really good players turned in the 1108 01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:38,080 Speaker 1: starters in between that second in the fourth round, but 1109 01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:40,200 Speaker 1: at the top of the draft there's just not a 1110 01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:43,600 Speaker 1: lot of star power. And then I saw in some 1111 01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:46,960 Speaker 1: of your notes that there were two other kind of 1112 01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:50,439 Speaker 1: under the radar linement that impressed you or at least 1113 01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:55,240 Speaker 1: kind of sparked your interest. The Arkansas center Ricky Stromberg 1114 01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:59,440 Speaker 1: and then the UCLA lineman John Gaines. Maybe just paint 1115 01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:03,960 Speaker 1: the picture thumbnail, sketch those guys for us if he could. Yeah, 1116 01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:07,400 Speaker 1: Stromberg's had experience at guard. He originally started at guard 1117 01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:09,760 Speaker 1: during his time at Arkansas, but over the past three 1118 01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:12,560 Speaker 1: seasons he's only played center, and that's what I think 1119 01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:14,120 Speaker 1: he is. On the next level. He can give you 1120 01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:17,040 Speaker 1: center a guard flexibility, but if you're trying to get 1121 01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:18,640 Speaker 1: the most out of him, I think he's going to 1122 01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:21,680 Speaker 1: be best as a center. And I had an opportunity 1123 01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:24,080 Speaker 1: to see him at the East West Shrine game. That 1124 01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:26,520 Speaker 1: was my first exposure to him, and I thought he 1125 01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:28,760 Speaker 1: was one of the better not only offensive linemen there, 1126 01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:31,400 Speaker 1: but better overall players too. So I think he can 1127 01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:33,880 Speaker 1: step into the NFL right away and be a starting center. 1128 01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:36,160 Speaker 1: I think that highly of him. And then John Gaines 1129 01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:38,600 Speaker 1: another player that I've seen on the All Star Game 1130 01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:41,960 Speaker 1: circuit that's played center and guard. He actually was originally 1131 01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:45,760 Speaker 1: committed to Princeton as a center. So a very smart individual, 1132 01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:48,640 Speaker 1: very savvy, is a little bit undersized, but he's very 1133 01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:51,800 Speaker 1: strong at the point of attack and very athletic. Do 1134 01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:53,720 Speaker 1: you think there's gonna be movement at the top of 1135 01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:57,520 Speaker 1: this draft with the teams and and what kind of 1136 01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:00,400 Speaker 1: effect do you think that'll have on, say the bottom 1137 01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:03,280 Speaker 1: half of the first round? If you've got guys jumping 1138 01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:05,720 Speaker 1: into the top ten to get one of the four quarterbacks. 1139 01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:07,600 Speaker 1: And I guess, as you ask you first, are all 1140 01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:10,600 Speaker 1: four of those guys gonna go up there? And how 1141 01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:13,200 Speaker 1: will that affect the bottom half of the first round. 1142 01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:17,000 Speaker 1: There's gonna be some good players that are pushed outside 1143 01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:19,040 Speaker 1: of the top ten, just because I think at the 1144 01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:21,720 Speaker 1: end of the day, we're gonna get four quarterbacks inside 1145 01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:23,200 Speaker 1: of the top ten. I think there's gonna be a 1146 01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:25,600 Speaker 1: lot of shuffling inside of the top ten, starting with 1147 01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:28,360 Speaker 1: the number one overall pick. I would be really surprised 1148 01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:31,720 Speaker 1: if the Chicago Bears stayed there and drafted someone with 1149 01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:34,120 Speaker 1: the number one overall pick, whether it's a Will Anderson 1150 01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:36,800 Speaker 1: or Jalen Carter. I would be shocked if they stayed 1151 01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:39,200 Speaker 1: there and didn't try to get some type of value 1152 01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:41,600 Speaker 1: with the number one overall pick. Arizona could look to 1153 01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:44,760 Speaker 1: trade back if somebody's trying to trade up for a quarterback, 1154 01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:47,640 Speaker 1: and we could see Houston, we could see Las Vegas, Carolina, 1155 01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:50,360 Speaker 1: or even Indianapolis look to trade up to go get 1156 01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:53,720 Speaker 1: their quarterback one. And we got this far into it 1157 01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:56,480 Speaker 1: without really touching on the tight end class that has 1158 01:04:56,520 --> 01:05:00,400 Speaker 1: been hyped to high heaven here. You know, some people 1159 01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:03,440 Speaker 1: think there's about five in the top fifty, ten in 1160 01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:05,760 Speaker 1: the top one fifty. I mean, you don't usually see 1161 01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:09,960 Speaker 1: that at the tight end position. How how many do 1162 01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:13,320 Speaker 1: you think could be off the board by the end 1163 01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:16,360 Speaker 1: of night two? Are we talking six, seven, maybe eight guys? 1164 01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:20,280 Speaker 1: I feel good about seven. I think we could see 1165 01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:22,960 Speaker 1: as many as seven go off of the board and 1166 01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:25,920 Speaker 1: through the second day of the draft. And you know, 1167 01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:29,760 Speaker 1: Michael Mayer, Dawn Kincade, Darnell Washington, those are potential Day 1168 01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:32,600 Speaker 1: one guys. But if none or even one go in 1169 01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:34,560 Speaker 1: the first round, we're going to see these guys fly 1170 01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:36,840 Speaker 1: off of the board in the second and third round. 1171 01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:38,960 Speaker 1: So that's why I think some teams may look to 1172 01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:41,080 Speaker 1: wait to take one of those guys in the second 1173 01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:43,200 Speaker 1: and the third round, just because it's such a deep class. 1174 01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:45,480 Speaker 1: But this is one of the best tight end classes 1175 01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:47,360 Speaker 1: that I have seen in a very very long time. 1176 01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:51,400 Speaker 1: How who's the best one and why? And we've seen 1177 01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:54,000 Speaker 1: Darnell Washington be touted as you know, the guy with 1178 01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:57,000 Speaker 1: so many traits. Does he do those traits at the 1179 01:05:57,120 --> 01:05:59,360 Speaker 1: NFL level? Put him above some of these other guys. 1180 01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:02,960 Speaker 1: It really just depends on what type of tight end 1181 01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:05,400 Speaker 1: that you're looking for, just because with tight end, I 1182 01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:07,880 Speaker 1: think it's one of the harder positions to learn coming 1183 01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:09,800 Speaker 1: into the league, just because you're learning how to be 1184 01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:12,760 Speaker 1: a blocker while also learning how to be a pass catcher. Two. 1185 01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:15,040 Speaker 1: So if you're looking for guys that are just trying 1186 01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:16,880 Speaker 1: to make an impact as a pass catcher or a 1187 01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:19,240 Speaker 1: run blocker. That's something that you're going to have to 1188 01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:21,720 Speaker 1: figure out. But it just depends on what type of 1189 01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:23,480 Speaker 1: flavor that you want with these guys. But I like 1190 01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:26,280 Speaker 1: Michael Mayer the best steel out of the group. But 1191 01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:29,160 Speaker 1: Darneld Washington made a huge impression on me, especially at 1192 01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:32,200 Speaker 1: the combine. Just seeing him in person, six foot seven, 1193 01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:34,560 Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy pounds reminds me a lot of 1194 01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:37,360 Speaker 1: Martellis Bennett during his career in Seattle and then also 1195 01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:40,320 Speaker 1: Green Bay. He has a lot of similar traits to him, 1196 01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:42,240 Speaker 1: and he had a really nice one handed catch at 1197 01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:44,560 Speaker 1: the end of his workout that really helped him stand out. 1198 01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:47,440 Speaker 1: And nobody that big should move that easy. That was 1199 01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:53,200 Speaker 1: not right, listen. Jordan, thanks very much for the time. 1200 01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:55,360 Speaker 1: We appreciate the insight on this. We'll keep an eye 1201 01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:59,240 Speaker 1: out for more of your work at ESPN dot com. Absolutely, 1202 01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:02,600 Speaker 1: thank you guys as all as Jordan Reid NFL draft 1203 01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:06,000 Speaker 1: analyst for ESPN, and you can see a lot of 1204 01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:10,200 Speaker 1: his work at ESPN dot com on the NFL Draft page, 1205 01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:14,240 Speaker 1: and had some good and interesting takes on a lot 1206 01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:17,960 Speaker 1: of the prospects at the combine and who impressed him. 1207 01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:19,920 Speaker 1: And that's why I wanted to pick his brain a 1208 01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:23,680 Speaker 1: little bit on some of those later round lineman because 1209 01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:25,640 Speaker 1: you know, everybody's like, oh, the Bills have to get 1210 01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:27,480 Speaker 1: a lineman in the draft. They may have to get two, 1211 01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:29,680 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. If you can't, yeah, you know, 1212 01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:32,000 Speaker 1: resign enough. I mean, we talked about how they had 1213 01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:35,560 Speaker 1: four free agents. They probably will get a couple of them. 1214 01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:38,560 Speaker 1: But the fact that he said, and I agree with him, 1215 01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:41,440 Speaker 1: there's a there's too many guys in this draft class 1216 01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:44,080 Speaker 1: that have played at a high level and have these traits. 1217 01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:47,160 Speaker 1: Even if they haven't been as productive as you'd like 1218 01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:51,000 Speaker 1: him to be, they're still gonna go. They're gonna fly 1219 01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:53,200 Speaker 1: off the board. Man. Those guys are hard to find. 1220 01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:56,240 Speaker 1: And even if you know you get a guy who 1221 01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:58,480 Speaker 1: you know, okay, take him in the second round or 1222 01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:01,000 Speaker 1: the third round and he doesn't quite get to be 1223 01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:03,040 Speaker 1: a starter, he's still got these traits that make him 1224 01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:05,040 Speaker 1: a guy that you're gonna have, you gonna hang around 1225 01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:07,440 Speaker 1: on the roster and gonna be a depth guy, help 1226 01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:09,600 Speaker 1: out when he can plug in, finish a game, whatever, 1227 01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:14,800 Speaker 1: they're just too many good athletes that are big to 1228 01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:17,560 Speaker 1: pass up, you know, especially in a year where you 1229 01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:20,280 Speaker 1: don't have a Julio Jones or a you know, one 1230 01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:23,439 Speaker 1: of these guys sae Quon Barkley up there. Get somebody 1231 01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:25,280 Speaker 1: who can help you up front. And then there's a 1232 01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:28,400 Speaker 1: ton of those. There's big and then there's ridiculous. And 1233 01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:32,960 Speaker 1: the Ohio State tackle Dawan Jones, he's six eight three 1234 01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:37,520 Speaker 1: seventy four eighty seven and seven eighth things inch wingspan. 1235 01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:41,479 Speaker 1: Think about that for a second. Almost eighty eight inches 1236 01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:44,760 Speaker 1: on the wingspan, that's like seven almost seven and a 1237 01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:48,519 Speaker 1: half feet. You'd need a you'd need a six foot 1238 01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:51,160 Speaker 1: stick just to reach him. He's got his hand on 1239 01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:53,120 Speaker 1: your forehead. It's like a little kid. I mean, he's 1240 01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:58,000 Speaker 1: just huge these guys. That's nuts. And then here they 1241 01:08:58,080 --> 01:08:59,559 Speaker 1: measured his hand. You want to guess what his hand 1242 01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:02,280 Speaker 1: size was. Seems got eleven inches or something eleven and 1243 01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:08,200 Speaker 1: five eighth inches. It's unbelievable. Even so, from his thumb 1244 01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:11,160 Speaker 1: to his binkie is almost like a school ruler. Yeah, 1245 01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:15,880 Speaker 1: it's crazy. So and let me tell you something this 1246 01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:17,880 Speaker 1: just in and you all know that, but I'll say 1247 01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:23,080 Speaker 1: it Anyway, those guys are rare when they come along. 1248 01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:26,120 Speaker 1: You want to get him. You want to get one 1249 01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:30,240 Speaker 1: of those guys. He weighs he's listed at three seventy four. 1250 01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:33,880 Speaker 1: Well they weighed him there, so I mean he's there 1251 01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:36,040 Speaker 1: in his jockey shorts, so it's got to be accurate. 1252 01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:40,360 Speaker 1: You would think you can't mean you have to be 1253 01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:46,000 Speaker 1: a genetic anomaly anomaly to compete against him and like 1254 01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:49,599 Speaker 1: to hold your own. Yeah, him firing off the ball 1255 01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:53,320 Speaker 1: in the run game is not something I want to see. Like, 1256 01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:55,479 Speaker 1: what do you do? You're just gonna get swallowed up 1257 01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:57,840 Speaker 1: by him, kind of like Jonah and the whale. Hope 1258 01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:01,120 Speaker 1: he falls over you. You know, what are you gonna do? Um? 1259 01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:05,479 Speaker 1: Guys like that. Now, he may be and I don't 1260 01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:08,760 Speaker 1: know Duan Jones, he may be. He may be a 1261 01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:11,479 Speaker 1: guy that just never gives up. He's a hard trier, 1262 01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:13,599 Speaker 1: you know whatever. He had a good Senior Bowl week. 1263 01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:17,240 Speaker 1: We know that it comes down to his work ethic, 1264 01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:20,840 Speaker 1: of course, because you've got guys like this who are 1265 01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:24,639 Speaker 1: in the league, like a Mackay Bectam for the Jets, 1266 01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:26,880 Speaker 1: who has been who is touted as a bust last 1267 01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:29,639 Speaker 1: year and he had to answer questions about the fact 1268 01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:32,920 Speaker 1: that he stunk in the draft, and he was, yeah, 1269 01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:35,720 Speaker 1: he's he's a top ten he's a top ten pick 1270 01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:38,200 Speaker 1: and he just hasn't been good and he's he's fatten 1271 01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:40,439 Speaker 1: and out of shape, and they think he's lazy. He 1272 01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:42,960 Speaker 1: can't stay healthy, right, and he has trouble staying healthy 1273 01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:44,479 Speaker 1: and that and that has to do with a little 1274 01:10:44,479 --> 01:10:49,920 Speaker 1: bit of your work ethic as well. So if Dwan 1275 01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:52,320 Speaker 1: Jones is the opposite of that mentally, if he's if 1276 01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:54,360 Speaker 1: he's got a fire under him, then he doesn't want 1277 01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:55,840 Speaker 1: to you know, he's gonna be one of those guys 1278 01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:57,400 Speaker 1: that you're gonna see, you know what I mean, he's 1279 01:10:57,400 --> 01:11:00,519 Speaker 1: got something to prove. You know that, you know, a 1280 01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:03,800 Speaker 1: guy like that is just because of the he's gonna 1281 01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:06,120 Speaker 1: get nine chances in the NFL. I'm glad I asked 1282 01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:08,800 Speaker 1: him about Darnell right, because you know, as much as 1283 01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:12,120 Speaker 1: guard is the position that people look at, because the 1284 01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:15,439 Speaker 1: Bills have three free agents of that position, including one 1285 01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:19,479 Speaker 1: of their starters from last year, and Roger staffold, I'd 1286 01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:21,200 Speaker 1: much rather take a tackle and then if you got 1287 01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:22,840 Speaker 1: to play him at guard, will then so be it. 1288 01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:24,920 Speaker 1: But at least you have the flexibility of putting him 1289 01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:26,599 Speaker 1: out of tackle if you think he can play there. 1290 01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:29,800 Speaker 1: Darnell right, not just a right tackle. Jordan Reed said 1291 01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:31,240 Speaker 1: he could play on the left side. His feet are 1292 01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:35,080 Speaker 1: good enough. And here's the thing, Steve earlier in his 1293 01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:38,880 Speaker 1: college career he played guard, so it's not like guard 1294 01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:40,880 Speaker 1: is foreign to him. So if you wanted to start 1295 01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:43,519 Speaker 1: him there and then transition him out to tackle at 1296 01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:46,680 Speaker 1: a later date, you have that option. So that makes 1297 01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:50,040 Speaker 1: him in here because you got these guys that are 1298 01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:53,280 Speaker 1: you know, Ohio State guys, Georgia guys and Alabama guys. 1299 01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:57,880 Speaker 1: They're all, you know, huge guys, and some of them 1300 01:11:57,960 --> 01:11:59,920 Speaker 1: like this, What did can you tell me about Tyler's 1301 01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:04,120 Speaker 1: I can't tell you anything. Yeah, he didn't play at Alabama. 1302 01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:07,200 Speaker 1: Coming out at Alabama, he's six six, three twenty one. 1303 01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:10,440 Speaker 1: He played between behind two maybe of the best tackles 1304 01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:14,679 Speaker 1: in the country, and he's coming out from Alabama at least, 1305 01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:18,680 Speaker 1: I think that's right. And he couldn't get on the 1306 01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:20,439 Speaker 1: field because he's got two of the best guys ahead 1307 01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:23,840 Speaker 1: of him. Right, hard to get a handle on him. 1308 01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:27,559 Speaker 1: But you find these guys and sometimes you get lucky, right, 1309 01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:32,200 Speaker 1: there's You just can't find Tyler Stein offensive tackle out 1310 01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:41,360 Speaker 1: Alabama six six three twenty. So you can find guys 1311 01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:47,200 Speaker 1: out there, even an offensive line that maybe a diamond 1312 01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:51,000 Speaker 1: and the rough kind of guy. But my thought is, 1313 01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:54,280 Speaker 1: and the Bills have proven this, I think they believe 1314 01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:56,160 Speaker 1: it too. You gotta get the big guys who are 1315 01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:59,320 Speaker 1: genetically different. You gotta get them early because they don't last. 1316 01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:02,439 Speaker 1: They don't last. You can get guys like Isaiah, like 1317 01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:06,439 Speaker 1: Isaiah Pacheco in the seventh round. You get guys like 1318 01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:11,960 Speaker 1: even Steph Digs with a fourth rounder, fifth rounder, fifth rounder. 1319 01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:15,919 Speaker 1: But the guys who were big with tools and traits, 1320 01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:19,960 Speaker 1: they don't last. You gotta get him earlier. Break time 1321 01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:22,320 Speaker 1: for us here, but your phone calls when we return, 1322 01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:27,439 Speaker 1: as we are talking about a realistic wildcard move the 1323 01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:30,080 Speaker 1: Bills can make this offseason. We've at him good ideas 1324 01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:34,559 Speaker 1: so far, a trade for DeAndre Hopkins, acquiring Mike Evans somehow, 1325 01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:37,200 Speaker 1: especially if he's cut by the Bucks. You let us 1326 01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:40,880 Speaker 1: know what your idea is for the Bills this offseason 1327 01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:42,880 Speaker 1: when we return here on one Bills Live presented by 1328 01:13:42,960 --> 01:14:01,640 Speaker 1: Klota Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, back, on 1329 01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:04,920 Speaker 1: one of Bill's live player releases are flying around. Looks 1330 01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:08,439 Speaker 1: like cornerback Byron Jones and a much anticipated move is 1331 01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:10,559 Speaker 1: going to be released by the Dolphins, save them about 1332 01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:13,880 Speaker 1: thirteen million. On the cap. Donovan Smith, left tackle for 1333 01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:17,000 Speaker 1: the Bucks, looks like he's going to be released as 1334 01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:21,639 Speaker 1: well as teams try to get into cap compliance by 1335 01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:23,720 Speaker 1: next week. But let's go back to the phones. At 1336 01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:26,320 Speaker 1: eight o three five fifty one eight eight five fifty 1337 01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:29,240 Speaker 1: two five fifty we lead off with Mark in New Jersey? 1338 01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:32,320 Speaker 1: What do you got for us? Mark? How you guys 1339 01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:36,280 Speaker 1: doing this afternoon? Being down here and hearing the radio 1340 01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:39,759 Speaker 1: down here, and they fascilate so much and they waffle. 1341 01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:42,280 Speaker 1: I remember Mike Whitehall, he's the guy got to wrap 1342 01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:44,360 Speaker 1: them up, got to wrap them up, And then that 1343 01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:47,559 Speaker 1: soured quick. They talk about the Jets as if they're 1344 01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:51,800 Speaker 1: this ready made unit, and some of the people too 1345 01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:54,000 Speaker 1: because of their defense. I don't remember recall their defense 1346 01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:56,519 Speaker 1: making a big stop when they needed to, or getting 1347 01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:59,360 Speaker 1: a big turnover. They didn't score. I know their quarterback 1348 01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:02,479 Speaker 1: situation was a mess, but that's of their own doing. 1349 01:15:03,160 --> 01:15:05,559 Speaker 1: They didn't have a veteran there when Wilson was a rookie. 1350 01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:08,240 Speaker 1: They had to bring in Flacco on late. They had 1351 01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:11,240 Speaker 1: Joe Douglas gets tired as a great GM. I haven't 1352 01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:15,160 Speaker 1: seen it. He had how many top ten picks last year? Oh, 1353 01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:17,719 Speaker 1: it's very easy to you know, hit on Sauce Gardner 1354 01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:20,719 Speaker 1: and the other a cat and then they got Bryce 1355 01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:25,240 Speaker 1: Greece Hall. But he's coming off an ACL McKay. Beckton's 1356 01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:28,760 Speaker 1: gonna bust. Quinny Williams was a Macagnon draft pick, not 1357 01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:30,639 Speaker 1: a his draft. They don't have to pay him money. 1358 01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:34,719 Speaker 1: Their linebackers are probably gonna go both. Mosley might be released. 1359 01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:38,120 Speaker 1: Quincy Wilson's gonna want a contract extension. They think Rogers 1360 01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:40,320 Speaker 1: is going to come to this Shark tank media wise 1361 01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:43,479 Speaker 1: and flourish, and you think he wants to come after 1362 01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:45,720 Speaker 1: what you know, this is where Brett came after he 1363 01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:47,640 Speaker 1: left Greenbay. You think he's gonna want to follow that 1364 01:15:47,800 --> 01:15:53,320 Speaker 1: same blueprint, knowing back guy's ego. Absolutely not. He's gonna 1365 01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:55,080 Speaker 1: be like Derek Carr. He came here, got to look 1366 01:15:55,160 --> 01:15:56,680 Speaker 1: under the hood and then like you know what, I'm out, 1367 01:15:56,840 --> 01:15:59,840 Speaker 1: I'm going somewhere else, or he'll retire. He'll go hang 1368 01:15:59,880 --> 01:16:04,040 Speaker 1: out in the Desert with Aubrey Marcus. Yeah, I mean 1369 01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:06,840 Speaker 1: I get it. I think the biggest reason why you 1370 01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:08,840 Speaker 1: should stay where he's at is because he's in the NFC. 1371 01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:11,240 Speaker 1: I don't know why you'd come to the AFC to 1372 01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:13,879 Speaker 1: play quarterback with all the other a f C qbs 1373 01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:16,559 Speaker 1: in this conference. It's insane. Yeah, stay in the NFC. 1374 01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:20,439 Speaker 1: It's you, Jalen Hurts and who Dak Prescott, a thirty 1375 01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:23,120 Speaker 1: five year old Matthew Stafford. There's nobody over there. He's 1376 01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:31,760 Speaker 1: in a division with Kirk Cousins, Jared Goff and Justin Fields. Yeah, 1377 01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:35,160 Speaker 1: I'd stay there. It could walk to the division title. Yeah. 1378 01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:39,160 Speaker 1: And I get about anything with the Jets. I'm with 1379 01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:43,160 Speaker 1: you as well. And now he made knowing the not knowing, 1380 01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:47,559 Speaker 1: but observing the kind of personality he has, he might 1381 01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:49,639 Speaker 1: relish a chance to come to New York and take 1382 01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:52,479 Speaker 1: on the media. It might be he just his take 1383 01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:54,799 Speaker 1: it as a challenge. He'd take it as a challenge 1384 01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:57,280 Speaker 1: and feel like he'd come in and have his way 1385 01:16:57,360 --> 01:17:01,640 Speaker 1: with him. Um, which might be a bad idea. But 1386 01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:05,200 Speaker 1: he's the smartest guy in the room though, That's why. Yeah, Yeah, 1387 01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:08,040 Speaker 1: And he may be up for that. Challenge. Um, and 1388 01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:11,680 Speaker 1: he may be up for that, you know, Um to go. 1389 01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:14,200 Speaker 1: He may be just the opposite of what we're saying. 1390 01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:16,559 Speaker 1: What you said, Yeah, Brett Farve did, He won't want 1391 01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:18,160 Speaker 1: that blueprint. He may want to go and do it 1392 01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:25,599 Speaker 1: the way Brett Farve couldn't get it done. Um, we'll see. Um. Yeah, 1393 01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:27,840 Speaker 1: I'm with you. I think the best place for him 1394 01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:30,439 Speaker 1: is where he's at. But I don't think that. I 1395 01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:33,599 Speaker 1: think the Packers are like doing their best to sweep 1396 01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:37,160 Speaker 1: him out the door in the most classy wake possible. 1397 01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:40,840 Speaker 1: But I've said it before, it rarely ends well for 1398 01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:44,880 Speaker 1: really great ones. Um. Tom Brady went to Tampa Bay, 1399 01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:48,840 Speaker 1: went retired, came back, then had a terrible season. Now 1400 01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:52,160 Speaker 1: he's retired. You can go back across the course of history. 1401 01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:54,800 Speaker 1: He didn't have a terrible season the Bucks, right, and 1402 01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:56,880 Speaker 1: he well, he carried him and he was their offense. 1403 01:17:56,920 --> 01:17:58,880 Speaker 1: He was He threw more than any other quarterback in 1404 01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:03,000 Speaker 1: the league. Yeah, he was their only hope. I think 1405 01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:05,840 Speaker 1: he got maybe got tired of that, yeh. But I 1406 01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:09,800 Speaker 1: think Aaron Rodgers is a different animal. He always has been. 1407 01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:11,800 Speaker 1: Maybe this is kind of the thing he does, but 1408 01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:14,200 Speaker 1: this it would not surprise me, particularly in this day 1409 01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:17,400 Speaker 1: and age, for Aaron Rodgers to finish his career someplace 1410 01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:19,920 Speaker 1: other than Green Bay. I don't think it's best I 1411 01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:22,080 Speaker 1: don't think it's his best fit. I don't think he's 1412 01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:24,920 Speaker 1: gonna win even if he stays in Green Bay. And 1413 01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:27,000 Speaker 1: maybe that's what he'll do it for him and ultimately 1414 01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:28,479 Speaker 1: if he wants to have a shot at the ring 1415 01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:31,479 Speaker 1: and have a really good team, the Jets seem to 1416 01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:35,760 Speaker 1: be unlike you, you know, I think the Jets are 1417 01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:38,600 Speaker 1: better than the Green Bay Packers on the roster. I 1418 01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:40,439 Speaker 1: think he's better with the Jets than he is with 1419 01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:44,840 Speaker 1: the Packers, except that the fact that he's in Buffalo's division. Yeah, 1420 01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:49,040 Speaker 1: you gotta deal with the Dolphins, the Bills, I mean, okay, Patriots, whatever. 1421 01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:52,240 Speaker 1: But then even after that, you're in the AFC, you 1422 01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:55,519 Speaker 1: gotta deal with the Chiefs, the Bengals. Jacksonville is an 1423 01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:58,960 Speaker 1: upstar team now, I mean there's a multitude of team. 1424 01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:03,720 Speaker 1: The Chargers made the playoffs last year. Like, stay in 1425 01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:06,479 Speaker 1: the NFC, dude, Like, what do you think there are 1426 01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:08,719 Speaker 1: five or six quarterbacks at the top of the AFC 1427 01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:11,960 Speaker 1: that are better than anybody in the NFC except maybe 1428 01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:18,479 Speaker 1: outside of Rogers, it's Mahomes, Alan Burrow, justin Herbert uh, 1429 01:19:19,240 --> 01:19:24,639 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, I mean, good grief. And then he put 1430 01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:29,680 Speaker 1: throw Aaron Rodgers in there. Stay in the NFC, rough Man, 1431 01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:32,479 Speaker 1: Stay in the NFC. Let's go back to the phones 1432 01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:35,639 Speaker 1: and to Kevin in Hamburg. What do you got first? Kevin? Hey, guys, 1433 01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:37,400 Speaker 1: how are you doing? Thanks for taking my call? Sure, 1434 01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:41,400 Speaker 1: I want to talk about the draft real fast fast. Yeah, 1435 01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:46,440 Speaker 1: um the beginning that I think we're gonna probably unfortunately 1436 01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:50,960 Speaker 1: meet lose tremin Edward Edmonds. But that one guy from 1437 01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:53,920 Speaker 1: Petn State, Joey Porter Junior, the one I think is 1438 01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:57,160 Speaker 1: related somehow to the guy in wait for Bill Kawer. Yeah, 1439 01:19:57,720 --> 01:20:00,680 Speaker 1: anything like him. I don't know how he's related. A 1440 01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:03,720 Speaker 1: brother or sons, his son guy from the Steelers, yea, 1441 01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:06,920 Speaker 1: his son, Okay, if he's anything like them. But I 1442 01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:10,040 Speaker 1: remember how Joey Porter played for the Steelers, even though 1443 01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:12,120 Speaker 1: he didn't stay out like Harrison, the one who picked 1444 01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:15,480 Speaker 1: off krup Warner in the Super Bowl. He was phenomenal. 1445 01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:21,120 Speaker 1: And of Joey Porter better than a linebacker than Yeah, Kevin, 1446 01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:24,400 Speaker 1: he's a He's a Kevin. He's a cornerback, though Joey 1447 01:20:24,439 --> 01:20:27,400 Speaker 1: Porter Junior at Penn State, he's a corner not a linebacker. 1448 01:20:27,479 --> 01:20:31,080 Speaker 1: That's the only problem. Well, he'd still be good relating 1449 01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:35,040 Speaker 1: to him somehow, Yeah, he was. He pretty we need 1450 01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:38,400 Speaker 1: a good quarterback and we lose if we lose either 1451 01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:43,120 Speaker 1: Justin or the other guy, Mica, and he's still covering 1452 01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:45,639 Speaker 1: and covering from a neck injury. He might be good 1453 01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:48,760 Speaker 1: anyway no matter what position he is. If he's like 1454 01:20:49,320 --> 01:20:51,160 Speaker 1: he's gonna he's gonna be a first round pick, they're 1455 01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:54,840 Speaker 1: actually most mock drafts have him off the board well 1456 01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:58,400 Speaker 1: before the Bills pick at twenty seven. Joey Porter Junior 1457 01:20:58,439 --> 01:21:00,759 Speaker 1: is considered one of the top three cornerback in the class, 1458 01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:03,880 Speaker 1: and he's probably gonna be gone by about pick eighteen 1459 01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:07,519 Speaker 1: to twenty somewhere in there, if not sooner, because I've 1460 01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:12,120 Speaker 1: seen him mocked as high as fourteen. So the general 1461 01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:14,720 Speaker 1: consensus is he's going to be a mid first round pick. 1462 01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:17,160 Speaker 1: So the Bills probably don't even get a sniff at 1463 01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:20,880 Speaker 1: him down there at twenty seven. But yeah, he's a 1464 01:21:20,920 --> 01:21:24,200 Speaker 1: cornerback by trade, as you know, his dad was a linebacker, 1465 01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:28,000 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, and he's super talented, but he's he's 1466 01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:33,280 Speaker 1: a corner, not a linebacker. So there's that. Did you 1467 01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:38,599 Speaker 1: see did you see what? Sauce Gardner tweeted at Aaron 1468 01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:41,640 Speaker 1: Rodgers already after hearing he's going to be visiting with 1469 01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:46,280 Speaker 1: the Jets. He said, Ay, Aaron Rodgers, if you sign 1470 01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:48,320 Speaker 1: with if you come to the Jets, I won't pick 1471 01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:51,800 Speaker 1: you off in practice, I promise, and I'll burn the 1472 01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:57,280 Speaker 1: cheese head. Yeah, Sauce Gardner notoriously putting the cheese head 1473 01:21:57,320 --> 01:22:04,040 Speaker 1: on after the Jets went into Green Bay. And one listen, 1474 01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:08,479 Speaker 1: if I'm a Jet fan or a Jet player, I 1475 01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:16,519 Speaker 1: am doing nothing but hoping, watching Twitter, hoping that that 1476 01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:21,120 Speaker 1: guy signs and that trade happens. Aaron Rodgers changes things 1477 01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:23,120 Speaker 1: for the Jets, whether whether he likes it or whether 1478 01:22:23,120 --> 01:22:27,200 Speaker 1: it's a right fit that guy. That is a seismic move. 1479 01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:29,920 Speaker 1: In the end, That may be the most seismic move 1480 01:22:29,960 --> 01:22:33,280 Speaker 1: of the entire offseason in the in the league, which 1481 01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:36,080 Speaker 1: means it's you know, that's right in his wheelhouse where 1482 01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:41,320 Speaker 1: he wants to be. That is a big, big deal. 1483 01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:47,000 Speaker 1: If Aaron Rodgers gets traded to the Jets, Yeah, and 1484 01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:50,479 Speaker 1: I think it does make them a legitimate contender. I 1485 01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:52,599 Speaker 1: think they have enough. They still have to fix their 1486 01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:55,400 Speaker 1: offensive line, but they can do that. They're picking thirteenth. 1487 01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:57,680 Speaker 1: They'll probably get one of the top three tackles in 1488 01:22:57,720 --> 01:23:00,840 Speaker 1: the draft. Stick the guy at left. They got to 1489 01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:04,559 Speaker 1: give that pickup to get him. Well, that's yeah, you're right, 1490 01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:06,760 Speaker 1: that's a good point. Might have to give it up 1491 01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:09,439 Speaker 1: to get Rogers in the first place, that's what we're thinking. 1492 01:23:09,479 --> 01:23:12,360 Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe, and maybe you catch Green Bay 1493 01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:15,000 Speaker 1: on a nice day where they're just ready to get 1494 01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:16,599 Speaker 1: rid of him and move on. He say, how about 1495 01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:18,120 Speaker 1: if I give you two twos this year and next 1496 01:23:18,200 --> 01:23:23,639 Speaker 1: year instead of a one. I would think they would 1497 01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:27,519 Speaker 1: want to help immediately to prop up their young quarterback. Maybe, 1498 01:23:28,439 --> 01:23:34,639 Speaker 1: but still so. Dan Graziano from ESPN. Since we've been talking, 1499 01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:40,000 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is reporting that the Jets contingent is on 1500 01:23:40,120 --> 01:23:45,280 Speaker 1: the way to California, includes team owner Woody Johnson, GM 1501 01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:49,719 Speaker 1: Joe Douglas, head coach Robert Sala, offensive coordinator Nathaniel Hackett, 1502 01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:55,080 Speaker 1: and possibly others to meet in person with Aaron Rodgers. 1503 01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:59,320 Speaker 1: They're taking the G six out West Steve. They're gonna 1504 01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:02,320 Speaker 1: roll out the red carpet does see what Aaron wants 1505 01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:06,760 Speaker 1: to do. Aaron's probably gonna be in uh, what are 1506 01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:10,519 Speaker 1: those what are those ponchos that those people wear, the 1507 01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:14,160 Speaker 1: Mexican style ponchos that they wear at in California. He's 1508 01:24:14,160 --> 01:24:18,840 Speaker 1: gonna have one of those on, barefoot straw hat and 1509 01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:22,840 Speaker 1: like cut off jean shorts. That that's Aaron Rodgers's gonna 1510 01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:24,439 Speaker 1: be sitting on a rock on a hill on his 1511 01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:27,000 Speaker 1: property with his back turn to them, and they're gonna 1512 01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:31,080 Speaker 1: walk up on him say Aaron, we're here. He will 1513 01:24:31,160 --> 01:24:35,599 Speaker 1: not turn around, He'll sit there. He'll just give him 1514 01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:39,920 Speaker 1: put his finger, put his finger. He'll slowly turn around 1515 01:24:40,520 --> 01:24:44,040 Speaker 1: and have some prophetic statement to make you welcome to 1516 01:24:44,280 --> 01:24:48,439 Speaker 1: my lair. If you're Aaron Rodgers, how do you handle that? 1517 01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:51,240 Speaker 1: Do you have your your representations got to be in 1518 01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:53,080 Speaker 1: the room. Did you like me saying sitting on a 1519 01:24:53,160 --> 01:24:58,960 Speaker 1: rock and sit it right with his his in the 1520 01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:04,479 Speaker 1: lotus pla um. If you're Aaron Rodgers, your report, your 1521 01:25:04,520 --> 01:25:07,280 Speaker 1: agent's got to be there. In fact, your agent and 1522 01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:12,240 Speaker 1: your agent's assistant and they're entourage. I mean, you've got 1523 01:25:12,320 --> 01:25:14,240 Speaker 1: to have your own crew there to meet that girl. 1524 01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:17,599 Speaker 1: That group you don't meet the team owner, the general manager, 1525 01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:21,479 Speaker 1: the head coach, and the offensive coordinator by yourself right 1526 01:25:21,520 --> 01:25:23,599 Speaker 1: out of the gate. You gotta let's go to dinner, 1527 01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:27,360 Speaker 1: get to know each other. And then you watch. You 1528 01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:30,519 Speaker 1: watch too. This is great. If you're Aaron Rodgers. You 1529 01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:32,680 Speaker 1: bring him to dinner. You say, here's our table. You 1530 01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:35,200 Speaker 1: have just enough seats for everybody there, and then you 1531 01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:39,000 Speaker 1: watch how the jet contingent shuffles around to see who 1532 01:25:39,040 --> 01:25:41,840 Speaker 1: gets to sit beside you. You kind of just watch 1533 01:25:41,960 --> 01:25:47,880 Speaker 1: that gymnastics take place. Right Who sits by Aaron Woody 1534 01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:53,200 Speaker 1: and who Robert sala Or is buddy Nate Nathaniel Half 1535 01:25:53,320 --> 01:25:56,040 Speaker 1: Probably Nate doesn't need to sit next to him because 1536 01:25:56,040 --> 01:25:59,559 Speaker 1: he already knows him. Well, yeah, but you can imagine though, 1537 01:25:59,640 --> 01:26:04,799 Speaker 1: how that goes. That's wait, hold on his Aaron Rodgers 1538 01:26:05,080 --> 01:26:08,600 Speaker 1: attempted or you to go, hey, Nathaniel, good to see you. 1539 01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:12,280 Speaker 1: What the hell happened with Russell last year? Fire that one. 1540 01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:15,840 Speaker 1: Listen this to me because I really don't want that 1541 01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:18,040 Speaker 1: to happen to me. I'm just saying, think about that, 1542 01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:22,080 Speaker 1: think about that meeting, at which point sala says, uh, Nathaniel, 1543 01:26:22,120 --> 01:26:26,120 Speaker 1: you're fired. Aaron I want to think about this, think 1544 01:26:26,120 --> 01:26:29,040 Speaker 1: about that meeting Brownie. This isn't it's an SNL skit. 1545 01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:35,000 Speaker 1: It's an SNL waiting to be hated. Aaron Rodger already painted. Right, 1546 01:26:35,160 --> 01:26:37,920 Speaker 1: he's got he's got the incense burning, and he's got 1547 01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:42,160 Speaker 1: the druggy poncho on. Right, he's got that. He's got 1548 01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:46,120 Speaker 1: a straw hat barefoot. Such a straw hat, right, it 1549 01:26:46,280 --> 01:26:50,320 Speaker 1: is so straw hat. Yeah, and he's got he's like scraggly. 1550 01:26:51,200 --> 01:26:54,160 Speaker 1: He hasn't shaved, he hasn't showered, he hasn't showered in 1551 01:26:54,200 --> 01:26:55,880 Speaker 1: a week. Yeah, there's a there's a hint of him 1552 01:26:55,920 --> 01:26:57,360 Speaker 1: because you don't want it. You don't want it. He 1553 01:26:57,439 --> 01:27:02,320 Speaker 1: doesn't and that's a thing. And Woody comes in there, yeah, 1554 01:27:02,479 --> 01:27:05,040 Speaker 1: in his pressed suit with a with a thin tie 1555 01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:10,200 Speaker 1: and a baseball cap. Well he's big on that. And 1556 01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:14,840 Speaker 1: just Nate Hackett comes in like and he's a scatterbrain 1557 01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:20,559 Speaker 1: eight year old wearing a hoodie. Yeah, and Sala wait 1558 01:27:21,360 --> 01:27:24,280 Speaker 1: so much Joe Douglas. Joe Douglas has got that energy 1559 01:27:24,360 --> 01:27:26,080 Speaker 1: like like he's trying to work the deal, like trying 1560 01:27:26,120 --> 01:27:28,799 Speaker 1: to negotiate the deal right there and then and Sala 1561 01:27:29,000 --> 01:27:32,040 Speaker 1: is the only sane person in the entire situation. He's 1562 01:27:32,040 --> 01:27:34,200 Speaker 1: the only going to wait, wait, he's the like he's 1563 01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:37,000 Speaker 1: the MC And three minutes in he's rolling his eyes right, 1564 01:27:37,120 --> 01:27:39,640 Speaker 1: he's like he's had it. Yeah, Oh my gosh, this 1565 01:27:39,800 --> 01:27:41,599 Speaker 1: is an it's an Es and El skit. It's awesome. 1566 01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:44,880 Speaker 1: It's an Es and El skit. And there's a there's 1567 01:27:44,920 --> 01:27:47,400 Speaker 1: like a three foot ball sitting in the middle of 1568 01:27:47,439 --> 01:27:53,760 Speaker 1: the table. There's a three foot there. Wait, there's a 1569 01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:57,080 Speaker 1: there's a hash pipe sitting in the middle of the 1570 01:27:57,160 --> 01:28:01,840 Speaker 1: table with five hoses coming off like that, with five 1571 01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:06,040 Speaker 1: hoses coming off of them in California. Nah, I don't 1572 01:28:06,040 --> 01:28:09,639 Speaker 1: believe he's got this, this huge centerpiece of a bomb 1573 01:28:09,760 --> 01:28:12,080 Speaker 1: sitting there with a pipe for each with a hose 1574 01:28:12,200 --> 01:28:14,160 Speaker 1: for each of them. Should be should I can't wait 1575 01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:17,280 Speaker 1: to hear what. We gotta take a break. How uncomfortable 1576 01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:19,600 Speaker 1: was that meeting? Well, we'll see he might get a 1577 01:28:19,640 --> 01:28:21,360 Speaker 1: lot more comfortable if what's in the middle of the 1578 01:28:21,439 --> 01:28:23,920 Speaker 1: table is accurate to your description. We have to take 1579 01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:25,640 Speaker 1: a break here, though, Steve and I to close it 1580 01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:45,080 Speaker 1: up next here on One Bill's Live. Stay tuned all right. 1581 01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:47,160 Speaker 1: Back here on One Bill's Live. We did want to 1582 01:28:47,200 --> 01:28:50,439 Speaker 1: take this time to pay tribute to a loyal listener 1583 01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:54,240 Speaker 1: of the show. Unfortunately, we're about a week removed from 1584 01:28:54,320 --> 01:28:59,519 Speaker 1: the tragic loss of Buffalo Firefighter Jason Arnold. Um you know, 1585 01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:03,280 Speaker 1: who tragically died in that fire last week downtown, and 1586 01:29:03,520 --> 01:29:05,720 Speaker 1: we came to understand not only is the Big Bill's Fani, 1587 01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:08,160 Speaker 1: he was a big fan of our show, and I 1588 01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:11,639 Speaker 1: also learned that he is the stepbrother of my two nieces, 1589 01:29:11,960 --> 01:29:15,360 Speaker 1: so kind of hit close to home. But we wanted 1590 01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:17,360 Speaker 1: to pass along our well wishes, thoughts and prayers to 1591 01:29:17,439 --> 01:29:19,519 Speaker 1: the family. We also wanted to make you aware that 1592 01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:21,719 Speaker 1: there is a go fund Me page that is raising 1593 01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:24,760 Speaker 1: money for his wife and three year old daughter. It's 1594 01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:28,360 Speaker 1: called the Family of Buffalo Firefighter Jason Arnots, So if 1595 01:29:28,360 --> 01:29:29,760 Speaker 1: you go to go fund Me, you can check it out. 1596 01:29:29,800 --> 01:29:32,000 Speaker 1: So thanks to all those people, all the service members 1597 01:29:32,040 --> 01:29:34,599 Speaker 1: and the first responders, all those people who put their 1598 01:29:34,640 --> 01:29:37,880 Speaker 1: lives on the line. Unfortunately, Jason Arno as an example 1599 01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:41,720 Speaker 1: of that in the most heroic way, and we want 1600 01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:44,719 Speaker 1: to thank him and remember his family today. Thank you. Finally, 1601 01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:48,599 Speaker 1: I'll be out on vacation Chris Trapasso in tomorrow with Steve. 1602 01:29:48,680 --> 01:29:50,800 Speaker 1: They'll have Jim Naggie from the Senior Bowl on the show. 1603 01:29:50,840 --> 01:29:51,599 Speaker 1: They'll see it one