Speaker 1: The quest for immortality and he urged to escape the
Speaker 1: inevitability of death has long been a preoccupation for us,
Speaker 1: as evidenced by the ancient Sumerian poem The Epic of Gilgamesh,
Speaker 1: the oldest example of written literature known today. In the poem,
Speaker 1: written sometime around eighteen hundred BC in Mesopotamia, the titular Gilgamesh,
Speaker 1: part hero, part arrogant demigod, undertakes an audacious mission to
Speaker 1: find the secret immortality after being confronted by the inevitability
Speaker 1: of his own death. Though we might not be demigods
Speaker 1: like Gilgamesh, his desperate refusal to accept the inevitability of
Speaker 1: his fate is a deeply human one, and something that
Speaker 1: many of us can sympathize with, whether we elect to
Speaker 1: place our hope in the promises of religious teachers or
Speaker 1: in the invention and imagination of our leading biogerontologists, those
Speaker 1: that study the mechanics of aging. There aren't many of
Speaker 1: us who haven't contemplated the possibility of existing forever in
Speaker 1: one form or another. However, although some of us may
Speaker 1: want for it, being a mortal is rarely portrayed as
Speaker 1: something desirable, and at the very least as something that
Speaker 1: can only be achieved at a great cost, from the
Speaker 1: burdens of Cone McCloud in his pursuit to become the
Speaker 1: only remaining Highlander, to the pitiful efforts of Melmouth the
Speaker 1: Wanderer to convince another soul to take on his pack
Speaker 1: with the devil in return for another one hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty years of life. In fact, we take great pains
Speaker 1: to dissuade ourselves from wanting it. Perhaps this is simply
Speaker 1: to provide some comfort in the face of such a
Speaker 1: futile desire, but it doesn't stop us trying back. In
Speaker 1: October this year, a team led by Tel Aviv University
Speaker 1: professor Shay Fratti published the results of an extraordinary study
Speaker 1: in the journal Aging. The study, to determine the effect
Speaker 1: of pure oxygen on the aging process, involved placing thirty
Speaker 1: five adults over the age of sixty four in a
Speaker 1: hyperbaric chamber and giving them pure oxygen for ninety minutes
Speaker 1: a day, five days a week over the course of
Speaker 1: three months. Through this process, of Fratti's team found they
Speaker 1: were able to successfully limit the build up of senescent
Speaker 1: cells in the body, cells that have aged to the
Speaker 1: point where they can no longer replicate, leaving the bodies
Speaker 1: susceptible to many age related diseases. Incredibly, not only did
Speaker 1: this delay the aging process, but actually reversed it. Aubrey
Speaker 1: De Gray, one of the best known biogerontologists, has long
Speaker 1: insisted that medical technology were one day allowers to control
Speaker 1: the aging process, even making the stunning claim as far
Speaker 1: back as two thousand and eight that the first person
Speaker 1: who lived to a thousand years old is already alive today.
Speaker 1: There are some, however, who'd say that this person isn't
Speaker 1: just alive right now, but they've already lived to be
Speaker 1: over a thousand years old. You're listening to Unexplained, and
Speaker 1: I'm Richard McClane Smith. It was sometime in the seventeen
Speaker 1: seventies that Countess of Adama, Mary Antoinette's personal attendant, first
Speaker 1: met him. For her, it was his eyes that mosted out.
Speaker 1: They were like nothing she'd ever seen before. His teeth, too,
Speaker 1: were immaculate, and all the more noticeable for being framed
Speaker 1: by such a thick head of luxuriant jet black hair.
Speaker 1: And though his clothes were simple, they were nonetheless made
Speaker 1: from the finest materials and decorated with the most exquisite jewelry.
Speaker 1: It was an appearance she assumed would be accompanied by
Speaker 1: a certain steely, if not arrogant, countenance. However, when she
Speaker 1: finally plucked up the courage to approach him one afternoon
Speaker 1: at the court, though his stare was penetrating, so too
Speaker 1: was it soft and inviting. Despite everything the Countess had
Speaker 1: heard about the man, it was quite something to see
Speaker 1: him finally in the flesh, looking no more than forty
Speaker 1: five years old. And yet it was back in seventeen
Speaker 1: forty three, over thirty years previously, that he'd first appeared
Speaker 1: mysteriously one day at the Palace of Versailles, home to
Speaker 1: King of France Louis the fifteenth, looking exactly the same age.
Speaker 1: For the Countess of Gergi meeting him around the same time,
Speaker 1: the effect was even more stark. Fifty years earlier, when
Speaker 1: living in Venice with her husband, who was the French
Speaker 1: ambassador at the time, she'd been used to a man
Speaker 1: that looked nearly identical who went by the name of
Speaker 1: Marquis Belletti. Had it not been for the sheer number
Speaker 1: of intervening years, she would have sworn it was his double.
Speaker 1: The Countess was so taken by the similarities she was
Speaker 1: compelled to ask him if perhaps this Belletti character had
Speaker 1: been his grandfather or another close relative. Perhaps. The man
Speaker 1: simply smiled and congratulated the Countess on the solidity of
Speaker 1: her memory, for it was not his grandfather at all,
Speaker 1: but himself, who had been traveling under a different name
Speaker 1: at the time. But it couldn't be thought, the Countess,
Speaker 1: realizing as she drew a little closer to him, that
Speaker 1: it was indeed the man she'd met in Venice all
Speaker 1: those years ago. If anything, he even looked a little
Speaker 1: younger than he had back then. The man, as it
Speaker 1: turned out, had been known by many names over the years,
Speaker 1: but there was one for which he will forever be known,
Speaker 1: the Count of Saint Germain. It's not known exactly when
Speaker 1: the Count of Saint Germain first arrived at the Palace
Speaker 1: of the Psailles, only that he arrived a complete stranger,
Speaker 1: but left the talk of French upper class society. A
Speaker 1: keen conversationalist, he was said to be immeasurably knowledgeable about
Speaker 1: everything from politics and philosophy to art and the sciences,
Speaker 1: but also fluent in nine languages, including Italian, Sanskrit and Chinese,
Speaker 1: as well as being, according to some amongst the finest
Speaker 1: musicians of the day. But it was his apparent expertise
Speaker 1: and restoring jewels that first brought him to the attention
Speaker 1: of King Louis the fifteenth. In one instance, the Count
Speaker 1: was invited to fix a flawed diamond for the king.
Speaker 1: Having taken up the offer, he returned a month later
Speaker 1: and present of the King with his fixed diamond. Not
Speaker 1: only was the floor removed, but the diamond was now
Speaker 1: somehow even bigger than it had been before. The royal jeweler,
Speaker 1: who inspected it soon afterwards, declared that whatever the mysterious
Speaker 1: Count had done to it had increased its worth by
Speaker 1: fifty percent. Soon rumors began to circulate about the true
Speaker 1: nature of this mysterious count. Some declared him a charlatan,
Speaker 1: others that he was some kind of magician and expert
Speaker 1: alchemist who had even succeeded in discovering the Philosopher's Stone,
Speaker 1: the fabled substance that could turn base metals into gold
Speaker 1: and bestow those who knew its secret with the gift
Speaker 1: of immortality. Within a year, the Count of Saint Germain
Speaker 1: had become so trusted by King Louis the fifteenth that,
Speaker 1: when in December seventeen forty four, his mistress, the Duchess
Speaker 1: of Chateaurouse, lay dying from a suspected poisoning, it was
Speaker 1: allegedly to the out that the King turned for help.
Speaker 1: It isn't known exactly why the King would think san
Speaker 1: gimin capable of it. Nonetheless, he has said to have
Speaker 1: begged him to make an antidote to cure the duchess. However,
Speaker 1: the Count declined, saying that it was sadly too late
Speaker 1: to help. Many years later, when the Countess of Adamar
Speaker 1: asked him why he didn't do it, the Count replied
Speaker 1: coolly that had he done what the King asked, he
Speaker 1: would have been called on by each and any person
Speaker 1: hoping to save the life of a loved one every
Speaker 1: time they got sick. It was a responsibility that he
Speaker 1: could not bear, implying that although he was perfectly capable
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Speaker 1: such obvious renown, there exists little by way of letters, articles,
Speaker 1: or memoir certifiably written by the count himself, leading some
Speaker 1: to speculate as to whether he was even real at all.
Speaker 1: What we do have are a tantalizing array of brief
Speaker 1: encounters and momentary glimpses of the man as he crops
Speaker 1: up in the most unexpected places, and often in times
Speaker 1: of huge political significance, And so, like temper or detectives,
Speaker 1: we are left with only these scraps and snippets with
Speaker 1: which to give form to this most mystifying of individuals.
Speaker 1: The year after he is said to have first ingratiated
Speaker 1: himself with King Louis the fifteenth, him appearing suddenly in
Speaker 1: England in the midst of the Jacobite Rising, as the
Speaker 1: recently deposed House of Stuart attempted to regain control of
Speaker 1: the British throne. A letter written by Horace Walpole, author
Speaker 1: of The Castle of Otranto, considered to be the first
Speaker 1: Gothic novel, gives this account. The other day they seized
Speaker 1: an odd man who goes by the name of Count
Speaker 1: Saint Germain. He's been here these two years and will
Speaker 1: not tell who he is or where he is from,
Speaker 1: but professes that he does not go by his real name.
Speaker 1: He sings, plays on the violin wonderfully composes, is mad
Speaker 1: and not very sensible. The Prince of Wales has had
Speaker 1: unsatiated curiosity about him, but in vain. The letter was
Speaker 1: written after the Count had been arrested when he was
Speaker 1: found to be carrying a note allegedly from Charles Edward Stuart,
Speaker 1: head of the House of Stuart, thanking him for his
Speaker 1: help in trying to secure the throne. What exactly brought
Speaker 1: the count to England, like much of what we know
Speaker 1: of his life, is unclear. What is known, however, is
Speaker 1: that two arias written by him were featured in an
Speaker 1: opera performed at the Haymarket Theater in London earlier that year.
Speaker 1: The pieces of music, along with roughly forty more Italian arias,
Speaker 1: seven solos for the violin, and a collection of English
Speaker 1: songs can be found in the Classical Music archives at
Speaker 1: the British Library. As musical historian Charles Burney wrote in
Speaker 1: his seventeen eighty nine book A General History of Music,
Speaker 1: an opera was attempted on April the seventh of the
Speaker 1: Little Theater in the Haymarket under the direction of Geminiani
Speaker 1: Prince Labkowitz, who was at this time in London and
Speaker 1: fond of music, and the celebrated and mysterious Count Saint
Speaker 1: Germain attended all the rehearsals. Perhaps this is simply more
Speaker 1: evidence of the high regard with which the count's musical
Speaker 1: talent was held, and yet it remains unusual that a
Speaker 1: man of which so little has been recorded would have
Speaker 1: his work performed in this manner. Things only become more
Speaker 1: intriguing when we take into account an unusual mural that
Speaker 1: was painted at the home of Johann Jacob Heidegger, once
Speaker 1: manager of the renowned King's Theater in London. Heidegger bought
Speaker 1: the property in seventeen forty four and had several murals
Speaker 1: of Swiss and Italian landscapes painted throughout it, and over
Speaker 1: one doorway still existing today, forming part of the mural,
Speaker 1: you'll find the painting of a book open on a
Speaker 1: piece of music written by none other than San German.
Speaker 1: The book also happens to be surrounded by a wreath
Speaker 1: of acanthus a symbol of immortality. Heidegger's painting has led
Speaker 1: some to speculate that there was a little more to
Speaker 1: the Count's music than met the ear, that he'd buried
Speaker 1: all his magical secrets within it. One of the few
Speaker 1: letters attributed to the Count of Saint German places him
Speaker 1: in India in seventeen fifty five. It is there that
Speaker 1: he claims to have learned his peculiar talent for restoring jewels,
Speaker 1: although details of what he learnt exactly are teasingly absent.
Speaker 1: As was ever the case, it wasn't merely a solitary
Speaker 1: trip of self discovery, but one spent in the company
Speaker 1: of Lieutenant Colonel Robert Clive, who was busy laying the
Speaker 1: foundations of the British Empire in India at the time.
Speaker 1: In seventeen fifty eight, we find a tantalizing mention of
Speaker 1: the Count in a letter written by Voltaire, one of
Speaker 1: the most brilliant writers and thinkers of the day, describing
Speaker 1: him as the man who does not die and who
Speaker 1: knows everything. And then five years later this from Austrian politician,
Speaker 1: Count Carl von Kourbenzel to the State Chancellor of the
Speaker 1: Hasburg Empire Anton. It was about three months ago that
Speaker 1: the person known by the name of the Count of
Speaker 1: Saint German passed this way and came to see me.
Speaker 1: I found him the most singular man that I've ever
Speaker 1: saw in my life. I do not yet precisely know
Speaker 1: his birth. I believe, however, that he is the son
Speaker 1: of a clandestine union in a powerful and illustrious family,
Speaker 1: possessing great wealth. He lives in the greatest simplicity. He
Speaker 1: knows everything and shows an uprightness, a goodness of soul
Speaker 1: worthy of admiration. Among a number of his accomplishments, he
Speaker 1: made under my own eyes, some experiments of which the
Speaker 1: most important were the transmutation of iron into a metal
Speaker 1: as beautiful as gold and at least as good. The
Speaker 1: Count was traveling under the name of Monsieur Zermont at
Speaker 1: the time. In the same year, famed philanderer Giacomo Casanova
Speaker 1: aimed to also have met the man. Then, in seventeen seventy,
Speaker 1: the Count was allegedly spotted in the port of Livorno
Speaker 1: in Italy, dressed in a Russian naval uniform, going by
Speaker 1: the name of Count Soltikoff. There he was said to
Speaker 1: have stood shoulder to shoulder with Count Alexis all Off,
Speaker 1: one of Russia's leading naval commanders at the time, who
Speaker 1: would soon after oversee the destruction of more or less
Speaker 1: the entire Turkish navy at the Battle of Kesma. The
Speaker 1: arrival of the Russian fleet at Livorno is considered by
Speaker 1: many to be the day that Russia announced itself on
Speaker 1: the world stage as a substantial political power in the
Speaker 1: affairs of Europe, the Count appearing once again to be
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Speaker 1: When the count returned to France in seventeen seventy, he
Speaker 1: was introduced to the Countess of Adamar for the first time,
Speaker 1: writing in her memoirs years later, she described a royal
Speaker 1: dinner which Sant German attended, as was his custom. The
Speaker 1: Count ate nothing. In fact, it is said that no
Speaker 1: one ever saw him eat, despite the numerous meals and
Speaker 1: sophisticated engagements he attended. Instead, he preferred merely to regale
Speaker 1: the guests with his bizarre and unusual anecdotes. On this night,
Speaker 1: he spoke at the time, he was introduced to a
Speaker 1: man referred to only as Count R, who was on
Speaker 1: the verge of death when they first met. His perilous condition,
Speaker 1: according to Sant German, was the result of a terrifying
Speaker 1: haunting he'd been suffering at the hands of a woman
Speaker 1: he'd inadvertently resurrected and then spurned. Every night, at midnight,
Speaker 1: the ghost and its rotting body would arrive in his
Speaker 1: bedroom and crawl into his bed, before vanishing in the morning.
Speaker 1: As Saint German explained, knowing the powers he had at
Speaker 1: his disposal, he had little choice but to try and
Speaker 1: help the hapless Count R, and so it was soon
Speaker 1: after that Saint Germain arrived at the man's home at
Speaker 1: a quarter to midnight. Having placed seven lit candles around
Speaker 1: the sitting room, He traced out a triangle surrounded by
Speaker 1: a circle on the floor, one shape to act as
Speaker 1: a gateway to the other realm, the other to protect
Speaker 1: him from whatever might appear. He then ordered Count Ar
Speaker 1: into the middle and warned him not to leave under
Speaker 1: any circumstances. For the next ten minutes, they waited in
Speaker 1: complete silence under the flickering light of the candles, until
Speaker 1: the clock struck midnight and the door flew open to
Speaker 1: reveal standing in the doorway the terrifying specter that had
Speaker 1: been haunting the man so terribly. But it was the
Speaker 1: next bit that most shocked the guests, when Saint German
Speaker 1: claimed to have used the Rod of Moses to dispense
Speaker 1: with the foul smelling creature. The rod, he claimed, had
Speaker 1: been given to him by a great great grandchild of
Speaker 1: Moses back when he was living in the city of
Speaker 1: Babylon during the reign of Cyrus. If true, this would
Speaker 1: have placed him there at some time in the sixth
Speaker 1: century BC. At one point, he turned to his assistant
Speaker 1: Roge for help in recollecting another of his anecdotes, to
Speaker 1: which Roget replied, you forget master, that I've only been
Speaker 1: with you for five hundred years. Perhaps it is my
Speaker 1: predecessor that you're thinking of in the official account, as
Speaker 1: far as any such thing could be said to exist.
Speaker 1: In seventeen seventy nine, Count Saint Germain is said to
Speaker 1: have arrived in Altona formerly of the Duchy of Schleiswig
Speaker 1: but now part of Hamburg in Germany. There he was
Speaker 1: taken in by Prince Charles of Hesse Cassel, well known
Speaker 1: for his interest in the occult and a member of
Speaker 1: a number of secret societies. The Prince was so impressed
Speaker 1: by the Count's talent for alchemy he installed a laboratory
Speaker 1: for him in which to conduct his experiments. In a
Speaker 1: letter written by the Prince in eighteen twenty five, he
Speaker 1: claimed that Saint Germain confided in him that, despite all
Speaker 1: the rumors, he was in fact only eighty eighty years
Speaker 1: old when they first met, and that he was the
Speaker 1: son of Prince Francis Ragotzi of Transylvania. The Prince, who
Speaker 1: was under threat at the time, had apparently sent his
Speaker 1: son away as a young boy to be raised by
Speaker 1: the wealthy Medici family in Italy. The claim has never
Speaker 1: been verified, though the Count was known on occasion to
Speaker 1: travel under the name Zaroggi, an anagram of Rgottsi. It
Speaker 1: is said that the Count died in February seventeen eighty
Speaker 1: four at the residence given to him by Prince Charles
Speaker 1: of Hesse Cassel. He was buried the following month at
Speaker 1: Nikolai Church in Eckenford, on the coast of the Baltic Sea.
Speaker 1: The Count's estate on his death was said to include
Speaker 1: little more than a packet of paid and receiated bills
Speaker 1: and a small amount of money. Also, some might have
Speaker 1: it four years later, the Count of Chalon, an acquaintance
Speaker 1: of the Countess of Adama, was walking through San Marco
Speaker 1: Square in Venice, when the sight of a familiar face
Speaker 1: stopped him in his tracks. Recalling the moment to the
Speaker 1: Countess not long afterwards, he could have sworn it was
Speaker 1: the Count of Saint German that he'd seen. It would
Speaker 1: be almost a hundred years later when journalist and writer
Speaker 1: Albert Dresden Van Dame published his book An Englishman in Paris.
Speaker 1: The book detailed Van Dam's time spent socializing in the
Speaker 1: cafes and bars of Paris from eighteen fifty five to
Speaker 1: eighteen seventy, and the many interesting bohemian characters that he
Speaker 1: met there. The account of one such character makes for
Speaker 1: some startling reading. Major Fraser, though he never dined there,
Speaker 1: spent an hour or two daily in the estaminais de
Speaker 1: Divan to read the papers. He was a great favorite
Speaker 1: with everyone, though none of us knew anything about his background.
Speaker 1: In spite of his English name, he was decidedly not English,
Speaker 1: though he spoke the language. He was one of the
Speaker 1: best dressed men of the period, and a bachelor. He
Speaker 1: never alluded to his parentage and lived by himself. He
Speaker 1: was always flush of money, though the sources of his
Speaker 1: income were a mystery to every one. He rarely spoke
Speaker 1: on the subject of politics, but when he did, every
Speaker 1: one sat listening with the raptest attention, for he was
Speaker 1: a perfect mine of facts. His knowledge of political history
Speaker 1: was as nothing to his familiarity with the social institutions
Speaker 1: of every civilized country and of every period. His memory
Speaker 1: was something prodigious, and even men like Dumars and Balzac
Speaker 1: confessed themselves his inferiors in that respect. Strange to say,
Speaker 1: he often used to hint that this was no mere
Speaker 1: book knowledge. Of course, it is perfectly ridiculous. He remarked
Speaker 1: with a strange smile. But every now and again I
Speaker 1: feel as if all this did not come to me
Speaker 1: through reading, but from personal experience. At times I become
Speaker 1: almost convinced that I lived with Nero and that I
Speaker 1: knew Dante personally. When Major Fraser died, not a single
Speaker 1: letter was found in his apartment, giving a clue to
Speaker 1: his antecedence, merely a file of receipts and a scrap
Speaker 1: of paper detailing his last wishes. His clothes and furniture
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