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Speaker 4: we have football conversations to to chat about talk about
Speaker 4: with you right now. The Cowboys are going on Monday
Speaker 4: night against the Cincinnati Bengals and Joe burrow.
Speaker 5: Man. I asked coach McCarthy about him yesterday.
Speaker 4: So mikel a lot of a lot of praise for
Speaker 4: Joe ban no choice Joe by super Bowl quarterback Joe.
Speaker 5: Bur Joe borrow Yes.
Speaker 4: So he talked about a play he made way through
Speaker 4: and got a thirty two yard game. So he's been
Speaker 4: studying film up there and one of the more impressive
Speaker 4: first round overall picks that we've seen here in the NFL.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry man, that's a that's an icy little is
Speaker 5: that is that terry cloth? Well, I'm sorry for those
Speaker 5: who can't see right now. We got the quarter zip.
Speaker 6: That is that?
Speaker 5: A man, that's a quarter zip ThReD Countess.
Speaker 2: I think fresh Nike at the tasty you gleaming the twelve.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, what were you talking about?
Speaker 4: I was just like, my man, thank you, Mike sink,
Speaker 4: Phil my boy, Mike over there, zips that looks good
Speaker 4: on the golf course. Man man saying by running the sink,
Speaker 4: I ask you just let him know. You know, he
Speaker 4: gave me a bag. I got a bag, got a
Speaker 4: bag of so large for me. I just thought I'll
Speaker 4: see what I can. I'm actually heading over tomorrow Thereday
Speaker 4: City signing day at TC tomorrow and then they've got
Speaker 4: the uh they're gonna let us talk to women's basketball
Speaker 4: coach over there. Okay, yeah, yes, damn over there. So
Speaker 4: they're top ten team now. Sunday at six o'clock, National
Speaker 4: champions South Carolina running it, Don Staley, Yes, sir, so
Speaker 4: I will.
Speaker 5: I'll be there.
Speaker 4: No Cowboy game on Sunday, so I want to go
Speaker 4: watch Don Stanley coming to town.
Speaker 5: I'm coming to go watch.
Speaker 2: Does a lot of her players go though today or
Speaker 2: they still They just recycled.
Speaker 5: They just recycled, like U cont South you want something?
Speaker 2: She?
Speaker 5: I mean you're talk about selecting. She's selected. Now, she
Speaker 5: get the top of She get the top me you
Speaker 5: like to come here?
Speaker 4: I mean it's drastically different than the Southeast lot of
Speaker 4: teams I covered back.
Speaker 5: In the day.
Speaker 2: Were you talking about going to the league, going to
Speaker 2: a lot of her big time players from last year gone?
Speaker 2: But it don't even matter because they were They don't
Speaker 2: even it don't even matter. They got another one another one.
Speaker 4: We just we select. We're not reading recruiting. Oh you're
Speaker 4: to now yet?
Speaker 5: Thank you?
Speaker 4: We lived for top five certain so yes, yes, I
Speaker 4: mean she's not good man that watching her. The final
Speaker 4: four was the final four two years ago. It was
Speaker 4: the first final four that Caitlyn Clark was. It was
Speaker 4: a great it was a great final four. So it
Speaker 4: was Iowa. South Carolina came in as the favorite, LSU
Speaker 4: came in, and then it was Virginia Tech and then
Speaker 4: Iowa had beat South Carolina. But when I was there
Speaker 4: at that the practice before they had the final four,
Speaker 4: she was like a rock star all these go these
Speaker 4: kids were there trying to sign autographs from me.
Speaker 5: It was you could like that was a super first
Speaker 5: star like them. Okay, just got Aura around you. Yes,
Speaker 5: she was like prime. You know.
Speaker 4: It was like there was coaches, then it was Don Staley.
Speaker 4: So anyway, they're coming to town here.
Speaker 2: So for somebody like you that that has covered the sport,
Speaker 2: obviously you knew Don Staley when she was a.
Speaker 5: Player, Dude, Don Staley. I was Virginia. Yeah, Virginia too young.
Speaker 5: She was in she was in w n B A,
Speaker 5: she was in w NBA, but this was before she
Speaker 5: was in the w A.
Speaker 4: W n B had Bet Bennett overseas. So she was
Speaker 4: a two guard at Virginia. Tammy Hollywood Reese was the
Speaker 4: point guard. Then they had the two Burgess twins. I
Speaker 4: didn't have the Burge and man, they were good. They played,
Speaker 4: they played, you know, played champions, getting thing lost to
Speaker 4: Stanford somebody else. Anyway, but I had been a fan
Speaker 4: of hers for a long time. And she was at Temple.
Speaker 4: And then Eric Hyman, who used to be the a
Speaker 4: D at TCU, then went to South Carolina. He ended
Speaker 4: up going to Temple and convincing Dawn to come down
Speaker 4: and uh coach sou but he said she was hard
Speaker 4: to get to know, so she, you know, hard had
Speaker 4: the wall up. But he said he went up there
Speaker 4: to Philadelphia spent time with her.
Speaker 5: And you.
Speaker 4: Talking about one of the great hires that anybody's ever made.
Speaker 4: I mean Eric hym And hire. Gary Patterson is a
Speaker 4: football coach going to the Hall of Fame Don Staley
Speaker 4: as the basketball coach Hall of Fame career already there
Speaker 4: were two national championships. But she's coming to town, man,
Speaker 4: So it's gonna be let's watch. You know, it's gonna
Speaker 4: be packed.
Speaker 2: I think I think it's kind of crazy when you
Speaker 2: have those players that were great in their position when
Speaker 2: they played that are now great coaches as well. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's that's such a I think obviously the game is
Speaker 2: so nuanced between just who you are as a player,
Speaker 2: but even trying to build culture and relationships within the
Speaker 2: locker room. When you see a coach being able to
Speaker 2: transcend and be that on and off you know of
Speaker 2: the field, that I think that's tough, but also that's
Speaker 2: something really kind of major, something to attribute to them
Speaker 2: as a person. When you can translate that both of
Speaker 2: those great player and great coach.
Speaker 5: How do you head lot, how do you see about Dion?
Speaker 5: Right now?
Speaker 2: That's the thing I think as far as Dion is concerned.
Speaker 5: You know how great he was as a player.
Speaker 2: I mean he was generational as a player, but as
Speaker 2: a coach, his ability to get these young men not
Speaker 2: only to come in buy into the program. His culture
Speaker 2: is different than the culture in Georgia. Okay, but then
Speaker 2: young men are coming in and they are being you're
Speaker 2: not reading if you could see anything in the paper,
Speaker 2: this is Colorado players, this and that Colorado. You're not
Speaker 2: reading that. They're not talking about that either. But the
Speaker 2: ability to get that culture, get everybody to buy in,
Speaker 2: get these guys to understand how the NIL works for them,
Speaker 2: get them to understand what it's going to be and
Speaker 2: where you fit at the next level, if you could
Speaker 2: go to the NFL, because he knows he already has
Speaker 2: the groundworks. Any look what it says, I have a
Speaker 2: gold jacket out and pay for right. The man is
Speaker 2: a Hall of famer, but also as a coach, his
Speaker 2: ability to lay the groundwork for that, him and coach Stalley.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, Like guys that can do that. Man,
Speaker 2: that's something very special because now nowadays the players that
Speaker 2: they are dealing with as coaches are different than the
Speaker 2: players that they were when they played massively massively different
Speaker 2: because they had to do everything from the dirt right.
Speaker 2: They didn't have all this stars and projections and all
Speaker 2: those things. They get to do it just because obviously
Speaker 2: that's the sport they loved.
Speaker 5: They were the best where they were.
Speaker 2: But now as coaches after all, I mean, I think
Speaker 2: that's phenomenal what it speaks to.
Speaker 4: I've read this book by Adam Grant called Think Again
Speaker 4: and Hidden Potential, a really great, great author, but he
Speaker 4: talks about the challenge for people who are brilliant to
Speaker 4: be able to become teachers to teach it to people.
Speaker 6: Yea.
Speaker 5: And for instance, Magic Johnson could not coach.
Speaker 4: Magic could see things that other people just can't see
Speaker 4: because he's magic. They talked about Wayne Gretzky and somehow
Speaker 4: they checked out his vision like you see here. Wayne
Speaker 4: Gretzky's vision went to like there that he literally could
Speaker 4: see things other people could not see when they checked
Speaker 4: out his vision. And so for Dion right now to
Speaker 4: be able to be this next level player, Hall of
Speaker 4: Fame player and then be able to teach it.
Speaker 5: That's hard.
Speaker 4: Same thing with Don say. A lot of people can't
Speaker 4: do it. Usually it's the other way around. You see
Speaker 4: somebody who is an okay player who had to really
Speaker 4: study thee about the fundamentals and techniques, then they could
Speaker 4: go out and teach it. Jerry Sloan was an NBA player,
Speaker 4: good player, but great coach. Rick Carlyle NBA player but great.
Speaker 4: They show one the last dance getting abused by Michael Jordan.
Speaker 4: They got when they started playing that that ll cool j.
Speaker 5: Bad and it was it was the game like that.
Speaker 4: It was hilarious because because Jordan went golfing with Danny
Speaker 4: Ainge on an off day and he said it was
Speaker 4: leaving the off course. Oh yeah, by the way, tabley
Speaker 4: DJ got something from tomorrow Dennis Johnson and it burned
Speaker 4: my eye. Guarded him, Dennis Johnson, guard that. They show
Speaker 4: Carlile guard him and Carl he just like threw his
Speaker 4: hands up as Jordan and then look Rick, Carl he
Speaker 4: wants his mommy. You know that he was coaching here
Speaker 4: at the time.
Speaker 5: Nobody said that.
Speaker 4: No, we saw you on that, we saw you on
Speaker 4: that that and then Jordan's Rick Carlo played a Virginia,
Speaker 4: So you know he was Jordan been getting on him
Speaker 4: for years.
Speaker 5: You own giving him buckets this word. You know, me
Speaker 5: work every day. Everybody already carl and so, but Rick
Speaker 5: could teach. He's a great coach.
Speaker 4: He's a great coach. But that's that's a hard thing
Speaker 4: to do. And I mean, look at Jordan's greatest to
Speaker 4: ever do it. But as a GM, it was tough.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think I think Jordan's caught up in
Speaker 2: that same He can't pick players and also he has
Speaker 2: a massive personality that even his players can't get in
Speaker 2: the same room with. You know, what can you say
Speaker 2: to Michael Jordan? You don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 5: What do you say? You can't throw that line out
Speaker 5: there with Michael Jordan in the room. What do you
Speaker 5: mean to Jordan?
Speaker 4: He killed poor Kwame Brown, He took and you know,
Speaker 4: just abused it mentally, and just like that, that's when
Speaker 4: you watched the last dance at the end of episode seven.
Speaker 4: Episode seven is epic, because you will Purdue makes no
Speaker 4: bones about how much heated like Michael Jordan and Jordan
Speaker 4: getting on him because Jordan's used to say that man
Speaker 4: he called Will Vanderbilt because he played it. Man, he said,
Speaker 4: you was good enough to be named after the Big
Speaker 4: ten school. And then they asked me, bgr show. Was
Speaker 4: he a nice guy? He couldn't have been a nice
Speaker 4: guy to play at that level until Michael goes through
Speaker 4: the whole thing of hey, man, I played the game
Speaker 4: at a certain standard and all my teammates came after me,
Speaker 4: and you had to play to that. And he said
Speaker 4: sometimes I had to drag people said I have to
Speaker 4: get somebody. Then I got somebody. But you ask anybody.
Speaker 4: Michael Jordan never asked you to do anything that he
Speaker 4: didn't can do himself.
Speaker 5: And that's the difference. And it's just it's tremid and
Speaker 5: tell you and he cries.
Speaker 4: You see him tear up at the end and he's like,
Speaker 4: you want to play that way, don't play that way.
Speaker 4: And then he said cut, No, he said break and
Speaker 4: then he but he was just that adamant about one.
Speaker 4: But he as a general manager, he was too hard
Speaker 4: on guys. He hired too many friends. The problem he
Speaker 4: would get hiring buddies and friends like Rod Higgins to
Speaker 4: go run this didn't work out. I grew up a
Speaker 4: Hornets fan. When he took over to the Hornets man,
Speaker 4: it was hard. Oh, I forgot about it. They took
Speaker 4: took another, took another dude, man, another white guy.
Speaker 5: Who's that guy? He can't play? I mean, George Is
Speaker 5: that guy could play. They just could not play.
Speaker 2: He was trying to get on the European wave. A
Speaker 2: lot of people got it, the Mavericks. Mavericks figured it out. Everybody,
Speaker 2: he cannot check Republic, he can shoot the three bring
Speaker 2: him everybody.
Speaker 5: Nobody wasn't that dude?
Speaker 4: You known Tony k Everybody hit that dude over there?
Speaker 5: Man, Everybody not that dude. All right? We were on
Speaker 5: Joe Burrow. Yes, we're on Joe Burrow. Here Joe.
Speaker 2: He had three thousand yards man, three thousand yards, thirty touchdowns,
Speaker 2: five interception, bad off its.
Speaker 5: Line with a bad off insive line to get killed
Speaker 5: each week he getting smacked up.
Speaker 4: He is, I mean there are foreign there FOURGN eight
Speaker 4: They had sko on with cried crying about the Bengals.
Speaker 2: Now I don't think he was crying about that. That
Speaker 2: That man was mad, hurt. There's something else going on
Speaker 2: behind the door. Something else going on with that.
Speaker 4: Situations like no, Joe, you said the Bengals was gonna
Speaker 4: be good, They're not good to listen and then you
Speaker 4: got you.
Speaker 5: Know, you're wiping you.
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, this man talking about to hope him
Speaker 4: this man and drank some hope um up there and
Speaker 4: he finally relays off of it hurting.
Speaker 5: That's gotta be.
Speaker 2: Hard for since Sinnati bigles fans to watch this team
Speaker 2: knowing that you got one of the best quarterbacks in
Speaker 2: the league and your team is underachieving like this. You
Speaker 2: sit out the power rankings, saw the power rankings with
Speaker 2: Cincinnati there. I mean, come on, this is this isn't
Speaker 2: where you expect the team with a generational quarterback, a
Speaker 2: guy like Joe Burrow that's literally raising these guys to
Speaker 2: a level each and every week, and they're still massively
Speaker 2: underachieving in that division, which is one of the worst division,
Speaker 2: what's one of the toughest divisions.
Speaker 4: So your point being, and this has been my issue
Speaker 4: with Cincinnati four. I've never believed in the coach, Zach Taylor,
Speaker 4: even though he took him to a Super Bowl. I
Speaker 4: don't believe in them. Also, I don't believe in the
Speaker 4: construction of the football team. I've got a quarterback who
Speaker 4: went to Kansas City and won an AFC championship game,
Speaker 4: and since that time, they not improved the offensive line.
Speaker 5: Boy getting I mean, with all due respect, we watched
Speaker 5: the Cowboys cut little Collins.
Speaker 4: And then he had start in the first game, Yes,
Speaker 4: first game to get Pittsburgh.
Speaker 5: J J.
Speaker 2: Watt, Yeah, look out, Doug and got him.
Speaker 5: And they just keep where where's the offensive lying a man?
Speaker 5: That's bad.
Speaker 4: You know they're taking news at the camera dot We're good, right,
Speaker 4: Joe started, Oh gosh, so I don't get that, So
Speaker 4: you know protect this man got Jamar Chase, one of
Speaker 4: the best.
Speaker 5: They trying not to pay him that.
Speaker 2: They literally told this man they are not going to
Speaker 2: negotiate the contract. Nuts, this is nuts. Didn't care that
Speaker 2: he was sitting out, didn't care. Hey, we are not
Speaker 2: we stand no business, no no down. That's we stand on.
Speaker 2: You know how we are standing on and had and
Speaker 2: had other Bengals players in the media going, don't do it,
Speaker 2: just don't do it.
Speaker 5: He's not gonna pay you. You'll sit out all season.
Speaker 2: Just imagine they will sit you out all s and
Speaker 2: then a lot of times it'd be these players, we
Speaker 2: fight for them, and we get you know, ticked off
Speaker 2: at them when they sit out and do certain things.
Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, when you see
Speaker 2: some of these injuries, you're like, man, I'm glad the
Speaker 2: dude set out and got his got his coin, and
Speaker 2: here it is right now. Jamar Chase, obviously one of
Speaker 2: the best wide receivers in the league, is unguardable, unguardable
Speaker 2: on a lot of fronts, and him and Joe Burrow,
Speaker 2: I mean they are They're trying to take this on
Speaker 2: all by themselves and do it.
Speaker 5: You can't. You can't do it.
Speaker 2: That's the one thing about that organization to me that
Speaker 2: really has thrown me off over the years. And that's
Speaker 2: why I feel like in this game the Cowboys, the
Speaker 2: Cowboys have a challenge with a team that really that
Speaker 2: down in the dumps because the players on that team
Speaker 2: got to know the same thing. You know what it is,
Speaker 2: you get you ain't protecting the quarterback they got.
Speaker 5: That's that's one of the biggest things.
Speaker 4: And so I do think if they got to I
Speaker 4: don't think they keep Zac Taylor.
Speaker 5: There's no way go get a better.
Speaker 4: Head coach and find someone who can like the coach,
Speaker 4: who can go to man. It's been to say, we
Speaker 4: must address this offensive line. We must want pay Chase
Speaker 4: to protect Joe and then run some better concepts out
Speaker 4: there to help the defensive.
Speaker 5: Help to that defense is I've always asked, where did
Speaker 5: zach Zach come from? Was he a Shanahan guy? I
Speaker 5: don't know he was. He was a quarterback coach for
Speaker 5: Sean McFall. No play you come from.
Speaker 2: He was the former quarterback in the league. I think
Speaker 2: he played accurate. Wait, he was in the league. He
Speaker 2: played one year in the league.
Speaker 5: Like for the Dolphins or somebody. But yeah, he played
Speaker 5: for two teams in one year. I believable. I mean, look,
Speaker 5: Kevin O'Connell, you know he wasn't exactly.
Speaker 4: I mean he played for the Patriots to come home
Speaker 4: and this you can do that that profile.
Speaker 2: He went to the I don't know, I'm guessing him.
Speaker 2: But either way, either way he.
Speaker 5: Went to the back. Okay, I don't know, we'll find it.
Speaker 5: Either way. I'm asking a question, where did he come from?
Speaker 5: How did this happen?
Speaker 2: Because all of a sudden he emerges as as a
Speaker 2: head coach and this is one of those guys that
Speaker 2: really if you think about him flying under the radar
Speaker 2: with his job.
Speaker 5: Before Joe Burrow got.
Speaker 2: There, it was already murmurs and talks of this guy
Speaker 2: has maybe you know, over his skis in this whole situation.
Speaker 2: Like play calling was the time of you know, all
Speaker 2: of those things where people were like, look, man, something's
Speaker 2: going on with this guy. And then all of a
Speaker 2: sudden Joe Burrow. You get Joe Burrow and the like he's.
Speaker 5: Stood next to m Van and you you was it?
Speaker 5: You fit your description? It did it did? Barry got
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you did it to yourself. You actually did this
Speaker 2: with yourself. No, no, no.
Speaker 5: Talking about that, talking about that, Barry Church. Respect.
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Speaker 5: Talk about it. Why was they coming at you like
Speaker 5: day man, because you know, I put it out. I
Speaker 5: put it, I put it.
Speaker 4: I put the word out and put the word out
Speaker 4: there bout you all loving up on killing Wore.
Speaker 5: It's my guy, man. I want somebody believe in me,
Speaker 5: like Barry Church. I believe you. Kellen Moore, do you understand?
Speaker 2: You know what I'm and justin her don't let go
Speaker 2: justin her. I think I think Danny Dimes let go
Speaker 2: of hisself. Danny took herself off the hook. He figured out,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, he got off that narket.
Speaker 5: I hope that was real. That was the blue magic, all.
Speaker 2: Right, That was.
Speaker 5: Was crazy. He got a bad match, that fact I
Speaker 5: was saying.
Speaker 4: But you know, man, you know so I put out
Speaker 4: I put out the tweet promoting the show, and I said,
Speaker 4: as usual, Barry Church got on his soapbox for Kellen
Speaker 4: Moore did it. I just don't feel the same way
Speaker 4: about the Eagles. O C pretty easy to call plays
Speaker 4: when you have a potential m v P at running back.
Speaker 4: Just respect watch the pod. It's just that somebody be weezy.
Speaker 4: Kellen can flat out coach. Ask Dak be weezy what
Speaker 4: I'm saying? I responded to be weazy. Understands, I said.
Speaker 4: Jack led the NFL in interceptions his last season with Kellen.
Speaker 4: He led the NFL touchdown pass his first year with
Speaker 4: Mike McCarthy calling plays.
Speaker 5: Then I got the jim when the brother steps his head, like,
Speaker 5: think about it, think about it, think about it. And
Speaker 5: then Ray she come at me.
Speaker 4: She says, uh, was that because Kellen called too many
Speaker 4: of the bounce off Noah Brown's hands plays.
Speaker 5: Damn, no one catches it straight. He ain't got his ticket, man.
Speaker 4: So I responded to Ray, I got no one catching
Speaker 4: the hell Mary Washington.
Speaker 2: I will give you that it gives man, and then
Speaker 2: be weezy gonna say stop it.
Speaker 4: He was also racking up the interceptions is year, and
Speaker 4: I didn't respond to be weezy at that time because
Speaker 4: I wanted to come out there and have to talk about.
Speaker 5: The offensive line issues and the.
Speaker 4: CD and the maybes at the receiving corps and they
Speaker 4: will right the running back room being being a shell
Speaker 4: of what it used to be.
Speaker 5: So I didn't want to say all that. I didn't
Speaker 5: want to. You know, that's crazy. But people, man, but
Speaker 5: the bud but your.
Speaker 4: Little sponsor, So I appreciate that, and uh yeah, man,
Speaker 4: but okay, more.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's doing this thing though, his thing of
Speaker 2: you got the number, what they gotta be top five
Speaker 2: offense in the league.
Speaker 5: Game the game is doing this thing. I mean, so
Speaker 5: let's make sure we understand.
Speaker 4: One of the things that McCarthy did mention with Kellen
Speaker 4: Wore was, hey, man, I've been in this spot. You
Speaker 4: know you want to o see you call him players,
Speaker 4: you want to put up points. Mike kept talking about
Speaker 4: complimentary football, which meant underlining running, run, pro tech, the defense. Okay,
Speaker 4: so Kelln, the joystick leaves here, goes out to charging
Speaker 4: what the joystick do? Fire everybody. So now he's in Philadelphia,
Speaker 4: what's he doing. He's doing what Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 5: Told her, to the ball.
Speaker 2: He's coachable, running the ball, he's coachable, because Harry, that's how,
Speaker 2: that's how great ones get better.
Speaker 4: How he rose in the coach, how he rose now, Harry,
Speaker 4: in fact, the ride you like Zoro, You're gonna run
Speaker 4: that ball.
Speaker 5: You're gonna run it. The Sirihanne in there shaking his
Speaker 5: head like this is wild. Run the ball.
Speaker 2: We didn't hear any of this back in April, back
Speaker 2: in June when I was saying I didn't have to,
Speaker 2: when I was saying Kellen Moore gonna go to the
Speaker 2: Eagles and they're gonna fly. H I mean, see if
Speaker 2: he could bring up the tape.
Speaker 5: But you was there.
Speaker 2: I thought, I was like, this is exactly what's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: Y'all knew who he had out there. A. J. Brown,
Speaker 2: Hurts Saqua was a part of the bunch.
Speaker 5: I ain't hear none of this. Anybody could do it.
Speaker 5: Run right, run left. I ain't hear any of that.
Speaker 2: Now all of a sudden, when he's doing today, it's
Speaker 2: anybody could do it.
Speaker 4: Kelli Moore could have been coaching the Bears and he
Speaker 4: was gonna be on. It would beever you were. You
Speaker 4: enjoy you on a joy but whatever you go.
Speaker 2: But what has happened? Are they not one of the
Speaker 2: best teams in the league? They are best offenses in
Speaker 2: the league. They and I And if you didn't say
Speaker 2: that all season though, what would you say in the
Speaker 2: all season?
Speaker 6: Man?
Speaker 5: Even when they had what after? I found that?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 5: Man, joy?
Speaker 2: If Keller Moore had an auto autobiography right now he
Speaker 2: wrote his book, what was what.
Speaker 5: Should he name it? Thirty percent? Look at twenty six goal,
Speaker 5: he's gonna name it. Do what you got to do
Speaker 5: that it's gonna be on.
Speaker 4: It's gonna be You're gonna be the old Ron Washington
Speaker 4: doing the game asking, Hey, we.
Speaker 2: Said no, you could do what they did. Hear the
Speaker 2: name of the book is, how do I take credit
Speaker 2: for this? You could do what they did here?
Speaker 5: Mike was right.
Speaker 2: Mike was right, fifty miles right.
Speaker 5: That was your man right. It's the problem, got no
Speaker 5: right excuse?
Speaker 2: Keep the reason we're like this from Saint Kwon Barkley
Speaker 2: after a year like this, I mean, his two favorite players,
Speaker 2: say one left, sake one right, touchdown, touched down.
Speaker 4: I'm not left right, get it, Take one out the back,
Speaker 4: take one out the.
Speaker 5: Fourth play, fourth plays? Would you rather be making crazy?
Speaker 4: So we're gonna give you what you gotta do one
Speaker 4: jumping over people like give Kellen Moore credit.
Speaker 5: And I would rather I would rather what Kellen Moore
Speaker 5: is doing right now? And would you rather that? Or
Speaker 5: we'll be here now, what's what's the right here? We're
Speaker 5: fining five and seven? What would you rather be?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 4: So somebody, somebody, somebody gonna go out there and mess up,
Speaker 4: make him, make him head coach.
Speaker 2: He'll be say all that, say that, like coach, that's
Speaker 2: where's going. Some guys are coordinators. That's where it's going. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the rumbling verse.
Speaker 4: If if coach soul and Zach Taylor and Connor can
Speaker 4: get jobs, Kellen Moore can get a job in this
Speaker 4: league there hired.
Speaker 5: Listen to me, Kellen, don't do it, man, just you
Speaker 5: got a lane right now, right there.
Speaker 2: Man, you don't want to You don't want that because
Speaker 2: that's a different it's a different lea minutes different than so.
Speaker 2: His genius has limitations. This I've always said, he is
Speaker 2: that eliteer. Always you rich. I've always said, hey man,
Speaker 2: you got your coordinator, okay, don't don't plot thickens always
Speaker 2: so you know, I was in the locker room with
Speaker 2: my guy, like I was there. Sometimes sometimes you don't
Speaker 2: know everything about everybody will get out and I'm like,
Speaker 2: you couldn't follow that, you know, I was in the
Speaker 2: locker room and he was just different kind of That's
Speaker 2: what we were just talking about, you guys and guys like.
Speaker 5: JS.
Speaker 4: James Johnson just hit us up on Twitter. I was there,
Speaker 4: but James hit up on Twitter. Since I think growth
Speaker 4: can happen. But I don't know how much of a
Speaker 4: leader of men our guy is, but he can. He
Speaker 4: can dial up a few Madden players. That's what That's
Speaker 4: why I'm there.
Speaker 5: You go stay in your lane. You know I will
Speaker 5: support you. You know what I mean, I'll be like, yo,
Speaker 5: you could do it, but only okay.
Speaker 2: I mean, but the next the next step for him
Speaker 2: after this is him becoming the head coach. That's when
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be at the train station. I mean, I
Speaker 2: was just talking about Cliff Kingsbury. Cliff Kingsbury. You're starting
Speaker 2: to hear the rumbles about it.
Speaker 5: Come on, there's another He ain't a guy out there,
Speaker 5: He ain't he ain't a gat falls. We're seeing it,
Speaker 5: We're seeing the cliff. This is where it's going this
Speaker 5: is that.
Speaker 2: I mean, you're looking at the end of the year,
Speaker 2: maybe what six seven teams that are gonna be looking
Speaker 2: for head coaches. Just right off the back, he gonna
Speaker 2: be on the top. He's gonna be, you know, one
Speaker 2: of them guys. But if I was him, just got
Speaker 2: a good lane right now, stay in that lane.
Speaker 5: M v P. Possibly. I mean, come on, they gonna
Speaker 5: get him. I'm gonna be like he kind of gold.
Speaker 2: Because as soon as it got just man, you you've
Speaker 2: been in the locker room when things don't go right,
Speaker 2: Things get ugly in there quick, and you gotta have
Speaker 2: a guy that's in there that can control all that.
Speaker 5: Look Chicago, Yeah, players starting to talk. You know, they
Speaker 5: were bolted after that Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2: They I mean, but if you go to a situation
Speaker 2: like I mean, come on, where you have a bona
Speaker 2: fide quarterback and you can bring in a running back.
Speaker 5: I mean this, there's a situation where how did that
Speaker 5: work out for Keller last year at the Charge? It
Speaker 5: didn't work out. It didn't work out. How they went
Speaker 5: out had a quarterback? Birds have to see birds. Yeah,
Speaker 5: you see how they went out with stately Man. How's
Speaker 5: it different this year? Ringing and they got right there.
Speaker 4: You know what, man, this is like what Kellen Moore
Speaker 4: is doing is the equivalent when I went to the
Speaker 4: New Orleans School of Cooking.
Speaker 5: All the food was right there. All you had to do.
Speaker 5: They already chopped, go ahead. All you had to do
Speaker 5: is just to put it in. Mix it. You can't
Speaker 5: mix it up. It's all right there.
Speaker 2: For him, and they still give the chef the award, right,
Speaker 2: you know what, even though he has all the tools
Speaker 2: and chicken, you know what, and so so.
Speaker 4: Man, your dish was great, you win. So I followed
Speaker 4: all the instructures. Me and all these other people. People
Speaker 4: are looking at me. They're saying, are you a chef
Speaker 4: or something? I'm like, no, just followed instructure. He was
Speaker 4: pretty easy. But you thought I was a chef. They
Speaker 4: thought I was some big touch. And that's what you
Speaker 4: got with Kella Moore. You are here thinking he's some chef.
Speaker 5: He ain't no chef. He's still going to win. Follow instructure.
Speaker 2: How we said, what's the end result? How he gave
Speaker 2: you all the what's the end result? Were you a
Speaker 2: top shit? You could have been like, yeah, that's.
Speaker 5: My dish, that's what Joyce ship. How do I take?
Speaker 2: All that matters is what's the end result, that's that matter,
Speaker 2: or we talk about what happens in between. Were talking
Speaker 2: about the end, that's all we talk about. I just look, man,
Speaker 2: your belief in Kella Moore incredible.
Speaker 5: It's drunk Your wife jealous, Missus Church is jealous.
Speaker 2: Result man at the end, Missus Church jealous like that.
Speaker 5: You could be like that. You could be five and seven,
Speaker 5: you got me. You could be drunk off nine and
Speaker 5: two or ten and to.
Speaker 2: My bad, my bad, Keller dunk Off'm glad your wife.
Speaker 5: Don't you can get sober five and seven? Which which
Speaker 5: you want? Five and seven or ten and two? Oh
Speaker 5: my god, I want to play to or or or
Speaker 5: or you can't go? You will, you will, man, you will. Man.
Speaker 2: When we come back, you get the fixing, so you
Speaker 2: will get grandberry sauce and all that. He dig in
Speaker 2: and won't dish who got Oh that man got the
Speaker 2: dish on time. He got the dish. Man potato, who
Speaker 2: brought it? I worked hard on this potato. I worked hard, No,
Speaker 2: but he brought it.
Speaker 5: Ke Keller brought that stove shop.
Speaker 4: You brought that stovetop, dressing it. But help on it.
Speaker 5: I made that myself. Oh damn, this is good. Let
Speaker 5: me that's good man.
Speaker 2: They ain't see the receipt in the garbage, trying to
Speaker 2: say you made biscuits and they look just like.
Speaker 5: The ones from churches. We know, we know you put
Speaker 5: the butter on them. Bring trying to bring him back
Speaker 5: of a cold too. When we come back. Did it win?
Speaker 4: Someone in the media asked the question about brock Hoffman,
Speaker 4: should he keep his job if and when Zach Martin
Speaker 4: becomes healthy.
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Speaker 2: That book don't work with some time. That book don't
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Speaker 4: Mal office line offensive line prevented it happening this year,
Speaker 4: I didn't make this.
Speaker 5: So the Pro Bowl voting is in right now.
Speaker 4: The current prom they got Kyle you checked one, which
Speaker 4: is no surprise.
Speaker 5: My man is at number six. So many fullbacks of
Speaker 5: the legs. They got a list of ten, they only
Speaker 5: got nine. I ain't got ten.
Speaker 4: They got nine on here, so Hunter of Lifky, the
Speaker 4: Cowboys and six man. You know, I said, man, check
Speaker 4: get hurt. They used my man right, but it was
Speaker 4: all a dream. So it's not happening. Man, it's not happening.
Speaker 4: And Mike can't putting him in good positions.
Speaker 5: Man, we got to keep a second set of books. Man,
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Speaker 11: Time.
Speaker 5: He want to go in his arsenal. All he do
Speaker 5: is I didn't need to go on there. I didn't
Speaker 5: need to go in the jump you right now? Can
Speaker 5: you want my blood? Take my take my how you
Speaker 5: flipping back? I just I was wrong. I was wrong.
Speaker 5: But it's not wrong with this team.
Speaker 2: Not wrong.
Speaker 5: Ain't no running back here. Can't do nothing with this.
Speaker 5: Nobody we beted. Uh, we betted.
Speaker 4: Zachadoll Man left guard, left left, left tackle, holding makes
Speaker 4: that penalties.
Speaker 5: Ain't no room for hunt looking to get nothing. I
Speaker 5: can't get down with this. You can't get with this.
Speaker 4: Yes, so no, it will not happen. But I meant
Speaker 4: I was there. I was take my blood.
Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, no, no, you're good good.
Speaker 2: So when it come down to brock Hoffman and Zach
Speaker 2: so so.
Speaker 4: For some strange reason, this became a topic, became a
Speaker 4: topic in the media, and then someone asked Mike McCarthy
Speaker 4: about it in the walk off section yesterday and and like, well,
Speaker 4: you know, could Hoffing possibly you know, playing with the
Speaker 4: job And Mike said, Tank Mark good football player, and
Speaker 4: he kind of laughed, see what you mean. No, no,
Speaker 4: but Zach Martin. But Zach Martin is ready to come back,
Speaker 4: brock off and we'll go to the bench.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I know that's what's gonna happen. That
Speaker 2: we all know that's exactly what's going to happen.
Speaker 5: But I mean it's been playing well.
Speaker 2: Granted it was against the giants, but you look at Washington,
Speaker 2: thank you, thank.
Speaker 5: You, Washington front, look at Washington.
Speaker 2: And that off the line was doing the stand. He
Speaker 2: was one of the main contributors. Like a thorn in
Speaker 2: the side.
Speaker 5: You you was about to fight somebody about Zach Martin.
Speaker 2: Remember, wait a minute, yeah, wait a minute. The players
Speaker 2: by Zach Martin. And if you don't have this, you
Speaker 2: can't be I swear to god. Uh I hate Chris. Chris,
Speaker 2: get in here, help Chris, come on, get hit them
Speaker 2: on the show right about now?
Speaker 5: What did you order to right talking about?
Speaker 2: You can't say nothing if you've been in the churchill
Speaker 2: now we can't we sit this ten days, two weeks
Speaker 2: and now we.
Speaker 5: Win it? Damn all that, damn it. I don't know.
Speaker 5: I don't know who is that guy? Boy? You know?
Speaker 6: Yeah? Right?
Speaker 5: So wait so wait right right? We are we going over?
Speaker 5: So yeah?
Speaker 2: Not right? Go ahead, man, Yeah, y'all know, y'all all wrong.
Speaker 5: Y'all.
Speaker 2: First of all, y'all wrong, right now, y'all wrong, because
Speaker 2: y'all know that's not what I was saying, right, It's
Speaker 2: not what I was saying.
Speaker 5: You know what we.
Speaker 2: Know so rock Hoffman has been playing his tail off.
Speaker 5: He okay, And when it.
Speaker 2: Comes to Zach Martin, it is his decision whether he
Speaker 2: should come back or not. All right, if he's not
Speaker 2: healthy and he can't come back, give it another week.
Speaker 5: That's his decision.
Speaker 2: That said, what if he's like, I'm ready, he plays,
Speaker 2: hands down, he plays. I'm just saying, Zach Martin, Hey,
Speaker 2: rock Hoffman has been playing his tail off, and I'm
Speaker 2: giving him the kudos that he deserves because he stepped
Speaker 2: in and he's been a major contributor. Well, Zach Martin
Speaker 2: was was in man, he was hurt. He I mean,
Speaker 2: the production of the Office is line as a whole
Speaker 2: was down.
Speaker 5: It was down. I mean he.
Speaker 2: Couldn't do it. He couldn't move, he couldn't extend. All
Speaker 2: of those things were bad. Brock Hoffman comes in and
Speaker 2: you see the difference, and I like, and I like
Speaker 2: what his coach said, I've a pretty damn good player.
Speaker 5: And which Hall of Famerly he gonna he gonna be in?
Speaker 2: Look, I go with what my uncle says, Hey, you're
Speaker 2: not in, and to you end talking about the Hall
Speaker 2: of Fame. All right, and so he will be on
Speaker 2: the Porch and Canton one of these days, all right.
Speaker 2: But all I'm saying is, right now, we've seen we
Speaker 2: wanted to have that depth, and we didn't know about
Speaker 2: brock Kaufman. How many people can stand on the desk
Speaker 2: and say that brock Kaffman would have done the job
Speaker 2: that he did. I damn sure didn't know. I mean,
Speaker 2: we had had looks at other guys like TJ. Bass,
Speaker 2: and we've seen that he could come in and replace
Speaker 2: guys in spot duty. But being able to do what
Speaker 2: brock Hoffman has done over these last couple of games,
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's something to look forward to in
Speaker 2: the future.
Speaker 5: But right now, Zach Martin is healthy. He can play.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And as much as I talk, you know, if
Speaker 2: he's he go, he gonna play, we all know he
Speaker 2: gonna play.
Speaker 5: It's just like man, he's Howen was balling.
Speaker 11: Man.
Speaker 2: This is eerie similar to what we've seen this organization
Speaker 2: do in the past. You know, when it comes to
Speaker 2: WHOA making sure whoa you knows of a certain.
Speaker 5: Stature don't play. I mean we've all sewy you know,
Speaker 5: we've all.
Speaker 2: Seen those guys that are behind those guys wait for
Speaker 2: you know, maybe a little bit longer than they should
Speaker 2: have because you had a you know, maybe a Hall
Speaker 2: of Famer in front of them. Man, Look, Zach Marin's
Speaker 2: a hell of a player, and when healthy, I think
Speaker 2: he's still one of the top guards in the league.
Speaker 5: So if he's fully healthy, you can go out there.
Speaker 5: He's gonna start. He's gonna play.
Speaker 2: But you know, if he's a little hindered by you know,
Speaker 2: whatever injuries may he may have still had from those games,
Speaker 2: then I wouldn't mind seeing brocking him the chance out there.
Speaker 5: But he's gonna play. Yeah, he's gonna play.
Speaker 4: And that's basically what Mike McCarthy ended up indicating here.
Speaker 5: So yeah, he gonna play. Man. So Tuesday players off.
Speaker 4: Tomorrow, more preparations, they get ready for Cincinna's and Monday
Speaker 4: night games. So Cowboys rop on Sunday, they play Cincinnati
Speaker 4: here on Monday. As the Cowboys try to make it
Speaker 4: back to back winds at Jerry Can.
Speaker 2: I ask this question, when you came off of Thanksgiving
Speaker 2: and you had a Monday night game, how much was
Speaker 2: that an of rest?
Speaker 5: But did that feel like a ton of rest?
Speaker 2: Yes, because you basically get two full days like you
Speaker 2: get that Monday fully away and Tuesday fully away. Like
Speaker 2: usually when you play Sunday, you get Monday fully off.
Speaker 2: But then Tuesday you kind of got to either come
Speaker 2: in here and watch film or something. You ain't not
Speaker 2: being at the facility. So Thursday extra day, So Thursday
Speaker 2: after the game. Then then that Friday. Are you off
Speaker 2: that Friday? Yeah? You off completely? Yeah done? Okay, what
Speaker 2: about Saturday? Sunday? Saturday Sunday you off? You usually back
Speaker 2: on Monday, back on Monday. Yeh, that's what can usually
Speaker 2: get back. But they ain't got that thing until next Monday. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they're gonna have some good time, some good time, especially
Speaker 2: after you get a dub too. I mean, the spirits
Speaker 2: are high seeing the family back to back, but what
Speaker 2: about the help. I'm asking that question about the health
Speaker 2: of the team. We're dealing with the injuries that were
Speaker 2: they should have some cats back. I mean, don't you
Speaker 2: know the law went down what three four weeks ago? Man?
Speaker 4: Basically what Mike said yesterday that he doesn't anticipate him
Speaker 4: still going to be in the rehab group, so he's
Speaker 4: still got a little bit of work left to do.
Speaker 2: So damn guys like Digs hopeful, hopeful on digs Ferguson.
Speaker 4: Ferguson, he believes he should be ready to go. There'll
Speaker 4: be enough time.
Speaker 5: Get back. Yeah, that schoony.
Speaker 4: Schooney's out there doing this thing. And then Michigan won
Speaker 4: over the weekend too, So what y'all thought?
Speaker 2: So y'all think it's that big of a deal when
Speaker 2: Cass plant the flag after you, it is, it's it's
Speaker 2: a big man, it's a big deal. It's a big
Speaker 2: especially for Ohio State Michigan. That's a big deal. Was
Speaker 2: it like how to escalated to that point where teens
Speaker 2: was fighting? Like where was that doing the game? No,
Speaker 2: it's I think for the rivalry, for the communities and
Speaker 2: the way that they build that up through the recruiting
Speaker 2: and everything, that's a big moment. And for them to
Speaker 2: bring it like it's that's like taking the knife and
Speaker 2: just here right here, just sticking it, just sticking it
Speaker 2: to I mean, some rivalries are different, Some rivalies are different.
Speaker 2: When I was at Kansas State and we beat KU,
Speaker 2: the student section walked the gold post from Lawrence to Manhattan. Damn,
Speaker 2: they walked google it. They walked the gold posts from Lawrence,
Speaker 2: Kansas to Manhattan, and when I saw the gold post
Speaker 2: at Agieville, I was like, oh, this is a real rivalry.
Speaker 2: I mean, so something's just running, bro, that's a dedication
Speaker 2: on highway because it's time of the year.
Speaker 4: It's it's up there this time of the year. So okay,
Speaker 4: that's four straight from Michigan, ain't it? And Urban Meyer
Speaker 4: never lost he was seven, And oh it's not good.
Speaker 4: They was supposed to stomp Michigan this go around. I
Speaker 4: worked up when I worked up there in Ohio, John
Speaker 4: Cooper could not beat Michigan and it ended up costing
Speaker 4: him his job eventually. Then Jim Trussell came in there.
Speaker 5: He was be them. So this is a problem.
Speaker 4: And basically, if you're Ryan Day, you need to win
Speaker 4: the national championship, so you make everybody shut up. If not,
Speaker 4: they could easily raise funds up there to replace him.
Speaker 5: The trick is who do you get?
Speaker 4: That's always my thing. You fire anybody all day long.
Speaker 4: Who do you go get? And in a job like that,
Speaker 4: you want somebody to understands it. I heard Marcus Freeman's
Speaker 4: name for Chicago with the Bears, but Marcus Freeman is
Speaker 4: a former Ohio state linebacker.
Speaker 5: Marcus Freeman, the coach for Notre Dame. Yes, sir, that's
Speaker 5: a better job. No.
Speaker 4: I mean, in my opinion, I say his better job
Speaker 4: in Notre Dame because you can get kids in Tomorrow.
Speaker 5: Willingham were talking about man the hardest system.
Speaker 4: I'm recruiting the same kid that Michigan, Ohio stated I
Speaker 4: can't get him in more to day. And they're sitting
Speaker 4: there taking the guys and you know they just wand
Speaker 4: to was a couple hundred.
Speaker 5: Million or whatever.
Speaker 4: They spent twenty million dollars roster whatever for the players
Speaker 4: this year. They got bread Man. They got bread I just.
Speaker 2: I guess I said that because his you know, his
Speaker 2: reputation must be really good to be mentioned in those
Speaker 2: in those same circles with those jobs. I mean they're
Speaker 2: mentioning with NFL jobs and the Ohio state job. That's
Speaker 2: that's respect.
Speaker 5: Leader of men, sir. That's crazy.
Speaker 4: How joy Stick ain't got that. But that's a conversation
Speaker 4: for another day. Harrison, I appreciate it.
Speaker 5: Well he didn't. He just get smacked by Northern Illinois matters.
Speaker 4: Crazy season, Go up, man. Everybody everybody got that. Everybody
Speaker 4: got a bad everybody got a bad loss this year.
Speaker 5: Man, that's true. Oregon? Okay, Oregon. Yeah, you're ready to
Speaker 5: put your money on them and take the whole thing.
Speaker 5: They pretty good put it on. I put you They're
Speaker 5: pretty good, man.
Speaker 4: Be interesting, be interesting interesting. These playoffs are gonna be wild, man,
Speaker 4: they are. It's gonna be like the NCAA tournament. You
Speaker 4: go sit around season, tell me how did that happen?
Speaker 4: Because it's the playoffs, people go out there balling, So
Speaker 4: it's me fun.
Speaker 5: This is gonna be a fun From Texas to Heisman.
Speaker 5: What's what's my guy? What's the running backs name for
Speaker 5: Boise State? Over over? Travis hunt one hundred percent? Okay,
Speaker 5: Barry Church is spoken, y'all think he's not agreeing with you.
Speaker 2: You don't think you should get that over Travis hunty over.
Speaker 2: I mean we've seen what Travis has been doing on
Speaker 2: both sides of the ball. That's is it a snock count?
Speaker 2: That's a y'all, Wow, I didn't decide either way. We're
Speaker 2: at a time.
Speaker 4: Thank Maharson, thank you, Chris, Jazz, Josh, everybody's been a part.
Speaker 5: Of the place. Come at you tomorrow two EI Central time.
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