1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: General Motors got bad news from the Supreme Court today. 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: With a full complement of nine justices in place, the 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: court issued orders and herd or an argument a number 4 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: of cases this morning. UH, and it issued an order 5 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: rejecting GM's claims that it shouldn't have to face lawsuits 6 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: over an ignition switch defect that arose before GM went 7 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: into bankruptcy. With us to talk about what the Supreme 8 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: Court did today, including this GM case. UH is Greg's store. 9 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: Greg is our co host on Bloomberg Law and also 10 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: Bloomberg's Supreme Court reporter. So, Greg, you've had a busy 11 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 1: morning at the court. Um. This case with GM could 12 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: be billions of dollars in potential liability for them depending 13 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 1: on what the courts end up finding, and they were 14 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 1: pretty keen to get out from under it. What did 15 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: the Court do today? Yeah, the Court rejected GM's appeal. 16 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 1: GM why the court to hear arguments and overturned this 17 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: lower court order that said you have to face these 18 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: lawsuits potentially involving millions of of car purchasers and and 19 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: an estimate that GM highlighted potentially seven to ten billion 20 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: dollars in claims, much of that by people who were 21 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 1: involved in very serious accidents because of this ignition switched 22 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: defect or allegedly because of that. Greg there were two 23 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: art oral arguments today and both relating to capital punishment 24 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,119 Speaker 1: or death penalty defendant. Tell us about the first one, 25 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: which involved help from a psychiatrist or mental health of 26 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: a capital punishment defendant. Yeah, this is a case involving 27 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: a guy who in Alabama was convicted of a four 28 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: murder and kind of the underlying question is whether he 29 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: had a mental illness that should be a mitigating factor 30 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: in his death sentencing proceeding. And the court there ordered 31 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: or appointed a state employed psychologist to produce a report 32 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: about his mental health. And that report actually found that 33 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: he had some as as the expert put an organic 34 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: brain dysfunction. And what Mr McWilliams argues is that that 35 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: that was not enough under an earlier Supreme Court decision. 36 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 1: He says, I am entitled to an independent expert, somebody 37 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: who's not state employed, and somebody who is essentially on 38 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: my side of the case, because this report, had I 39 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: been able to, you know, fully explore it and present 40 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: it to the court, might have been enough to give 41 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: me grounds to avoid the death penalty. So how did 42 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: the justices respond to the arguments today, Well, they seemed mixed. 43 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: It seemed to be kind of an ideological divide that 44 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: we've gotten used to. With Anthony Kennedy in the middle 45 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:45,399 Speaker 1: of the court, he was somewhat sympathetic. Um, maybe not 46 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: giving the defense Mr McWilliams everything he was asking for, 47 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: but uh he he did suggest that, uh that. And 48 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: the part of this is that a lot of other 49 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: states now have already given these sorts of right that 50 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: he's asking for. Kennedy did seem to suggest that he 51 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: was inclined to give Mr McWilliams at least some of 52 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 1: what he was asking for, which could mean a new 53 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 1: sentencing hearing for him. So it seems as if Kennedy 54 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: is still the swing vote. He does, he does seem 55 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: that way. Let me just point out one other interesting 56 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: aspect of this argument today. I've now seen it twice 57 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: two justices to keep an eye on Justice Gorsuch and 58 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: Justice Kagan, the two news justices on the court twice 59 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: now since Justice Corser has been on the court. Justice 60 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: Kagan pushed back at him very hard on something that 61 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: that he said today. She used the word shocking to 62 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: describe a way he was proposing, uh, exploring this case 63 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: before them. What was it, greg What did he say this? 64 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: It's actually a pretty tactical point, but it had to 65 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: do with how the court interpreted this decision. From that 66 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: is really the underlying precedent. And essentially what what the 67 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,119 Speaker 1: way Kagan described what Gorsuch was was saying is that 68 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: he wasn't content just to look at what the court said. 69 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: He wanted to go a little further back to look 70 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: at what the parties were asking the court to do 71 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: in and she said that would be a shocking way 72 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 1: of reading court precedents. We shall see what happens with that. 73 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: But now the court hasn't granted any new cases today, 74 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 1: but there are still some interesting possibilities out there and 75 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: some time left. Yeah, and it seems like maybe they 76 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: took it just a little bit of pause to let 77 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 1: Neil Gorst come up, get up to speed. There's a 78 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: case that seems highly likely to be granted would be 79 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 1: a blockbuster. That is the North Carolina Voter i. D. Case. 80 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: That's the one where a federal appeals court said the 81 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 1: state with quote almost surgical precision, targeted blacks with these restrictions. UH. 82 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: The court UH is already indicated that there are four 83 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,239 Speaker 1: of them on the court. This was even before arrived. 84 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: Are are inclined to want to hear North Carolina is 85 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: appealing that this case that could be a really big one. 86 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: One other, if I have a second to describe to you, 87 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: there are a number of petitions that ask a really 88 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: interesting question about digital privacy. Whether police need a warrant 89 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: to get from a telecom company the location of your 90 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: mobile phone has arisen in a number of contexts. UH 91 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: lower course generally have said no, they don't need to 92 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 1: go to a judge and show probable cause and get 93 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: a warrant in order to get that sort of information 94 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: from a telecommunications company. Well, I'm sure we'll be talking 95 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: about that. We talked about that subject all the time. 96 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: It keeps coming up our thanks to Greg Store from 97 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 1: Bloomberg new Supreme Court reporter and our co host on 98 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Law. Coming up, we'll be talking about extensive litigation 99 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 1: against the agribusiness giant Syngenta over whether it misled people 100 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 1: about genetically modified corn getting approved