1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: Walk back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: of you hanging out with us. Thirteen days until Donald 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: Trump raises his right hand and becomes the next president 4 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: of the United States. 5 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:12,399 Speaker 2: We cannot wait. We know you cannot wait either. 6 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: Decided to have Buck back with us after a big 7 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: trip to Spain. I'm still interested to hear how that 8 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 1: all went. We'll discuss that a bit, but we got 9 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: major breaking news that came out this morning associated with Facebook, 10 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: the censorship industrial complex, and the overall impact that that created. 11 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:31,639 Speaker 2: We'll get to that. 12 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: In a moment, but first, we're both right in the 13 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: Great Canal Debate of twenty twenty five. In twenty twenty one, 14 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: the Suez Canal was blocked by a ship. So the 15 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: crew was right about the Suez Canal. And interestingly it 16 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: was actually a Panamanian based ship that blocked the Suez Canal. 17 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: But what I was thinking about was twenty twenty three. 18 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: Last year, two hundred ships got back as a part 19 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: of the overall supply chain crisis in the Panama Canal. 20 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: We're discussing this because much of Trump's discussion surrounding the 21 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: Panama Canal Greenland has been predicated on world trade and 22 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: who has the ability to control control in some way 23 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 1: the ingress and egress of ships around the world for 24 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: purposes of commerce. Now for purposes of commerce, they're also 25 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: and fact checking is a major discussion point out there 26 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: about Facebook and Buck. In March of twenty twenty one, 27 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 1: I went and testified in front of Congress. Our friend 28 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 1: Jim Jordan invited me to come, and I went under 29 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: oath and testified as an expert about the impact of 30 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: Facebook and what happened when Facebook basically decided, hey, we 31 00:01:55,600 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: don't like your organization anymore. Overnight, our Facebook traffic basically vanished. 32 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: And many different media outlets that have been on quote, 33 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: the wrong side of the stories that Facebook wanted to 34 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: propagate have dealt with this impact. In particular, we were 35 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: too favorable about Donald Trump, and we were too aggressive 36 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: in covering whether schools should open back up, whether masks worked, 37 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: where COVID came from at OutKick, and as a result, 38 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: Facebook basically shut down traffic to our site and that 39 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 1: had a major impact. And let me just point this out, Buck, 40 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: because I think it's super important. Four years ago in concert, Facebook, Twitter, Spotify, Snapchat, Instagram, Shopify, Reddit, Twitch, TikTok, 41 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 1: and Pinarists all banned Donald Trump from being able to 42 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: have an account on their social networks. 43 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 2: In Unison, Pinterest, I just that was I mean, I don't. 44 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 3: Probably can't put out his favorite his favorite recipes or 45 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 3: his favorite way of making sprinkles for cookies, no doubt. 46 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: And if Donald Trump had wanted to get in the 47 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 1: oven mint business, pinterist was just completely killing his oven 48 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,959 Speaker 1: mit game. This was scary and it was crazy, and Buck, 49 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 1: you've talked about this. Not only did they do that, 50 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: they actually used Amazon to legitimately take sites off the 51 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: Internet that we're using. A lot of people don't realize this, 52 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: maybe some of you do. Amazon web hosting is one 53 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: of the biggest businesses they do. If somewhere won't host 54 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: your website, they basically just make you not exist. And 55 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: this is what they did back in the day to 56 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: uh what was the site? 57 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 3: It was a parlor, yeah, which was a free speech 58 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 3: a free speech site. 59 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 4: And no, this was scary. 60 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 3: This was the beginning of the of the of the 61 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 3: true online to atalitarianism that we had to live through. 62 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 3: I mean, it was this, It was COVID, it was 63 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 3: the election. You know election stuff. So it was frightening 64 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 3: how this just worked all in Unison McLay, I was 65 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 3: looking up I just found this. There was a PolitiFact 66 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 3: on me. Remember I was saying this before, and this 67 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 3: was from a Facebook post. And here's what I said 68 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 3: in February of twenty twenty one. The science says open 69 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 3: the schools, stop wearing masks outside. I should have just 70 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 3: said stop wearing masks, but stop wearing masks outside and 71 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 3: everyone at low risk should start living normal lives. And 72 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 3: they fact checked this and said the whole thing was wrong. 73 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 3: It's all masks outside. I mean we knew that from 74 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 3: the very beginning that that was always moronic. I mean, 75 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 3: no one was getting COVID outdoors. 76 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 4: That never happened. It was all absurd. 77 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 3: I mean we say never, I mean like lightning strike. 78 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 3: Maybe it could happen, but it was it was madness. 79 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 3: So everything that they fact checked me on they were having, 80 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 3: they were wrong. And they did this over and over again. 81 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 3: By the way, that it's not like they just fact 82 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 3: checked me. 83 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 4: Clay. 84 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 3: They shut down my Facebook account. Yeah, based on that. 85 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 3: So I said, hey, guys, look at the look at 86 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 3: the numbers. Masks outdoors makes no sense. Oh no, that's 87 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 3: a lie. You're off Facebook. 88 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 4: Now. This is what they were doing to be and 89 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 4: they did this. I know, it's not like Woe is Me. 90 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 3: I always hated Facebook. It's not something I use very much. 91 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 3: But they did this to so many people. And what 92 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 3: you realize was that they were they were not only 93 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 3: unrepentant about the whole thing, they liked the fact that 94 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 3: they could do it to people, even when what they 95 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 3: were fact show, even when they were pushing lies. Right, 96 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 3: that's the real power. The real power isn't to stop 97 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 3: other people from lying. The real power is to make 98 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 3: other people lie or to prevent other people. 99 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 1: From speaking the truth. And that's got one. I've got 100 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 1: one for you that I testified about. Buck, you'll appreciate this. 101 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: We had doctor Marty McCarey on this show quite a lot, 102 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: and he's now going to be the head of the CDC, 103 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 1: I think, which is an amazing congratulations doctor McCarey. It's 104 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 1: a great appointment. Appointment by Donald Trump. We wrote an 105 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: article at OutKick in March of twenty twenty one and 106 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 1: it said it was Marty McCarey saying herd immunity will 107 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 1: be here by April. This was doctor Martin McCarey, an 108 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 1: editorial at the Wall Street Journal. We wrote about that 109 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: on OutKick and Facebook told us that we were guilty 110 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: of the headline was misinformation violations, and they said we 111 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: could not share the opinion piece of doctor McCarey on 112 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: our Facebook account, and as a result, they banned the 113 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: sharing of OutKick stories for a set period of time, 114 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: with no ability to in any way appeal. 115 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 2: We shared an opinion piece from a doctor. 116 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 3: And just understand this for those of you who have never 117 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 3: been in the yeah, you know, the media business, I 118 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 3: mean to be operating in this world. I mean, Clay 119 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 3: knows about this very well. But I started out working 120 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 3: at The Blaze. I was a website writer for Glenn 121 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 3: Beck at The Blaze. That was my first media job. 122 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 3: That was back in twenty eleven. Gosh, I'm getting old, Clay. 123 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 3: Uh So I very much lived in that world too. 124 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 3: Facebook was for a lot of a lot of big websites. 125 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 3: What would you say, Clay, thirty forty percent of traffic 126 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 3: was Facebook derived, sometimes higher depending on the hiring on 127 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 3: the site. 128 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, in the day, I mean huge amounts. 129 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 3: So I mean imagine, you know, if you're running a 130 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 3: hardware store and forty percent of your customers disappear forever, 131 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 3: you're not going to be in business very long, right. 132 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 3: I mean, if you're used to a certain customer base 133 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 3: and forty percent of them are gone. Certainly true of 134 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 3: a online journalism or or you know, news media entity 135 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 3: as well. So Facebook was able to kill off a 136 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 3: lot of conservative sites and a lot of traffic. And 137 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 3: I mean the damage. And I don't want to lose 138 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 3: sight of this, the damage that Zuckerberg whom you know, yeah, 139 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 3: he's coming around on. Can I just also put something 140 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 3: out here for a second. We need to stop worshiping 141 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 3: people who have been conservative for like five minutes or 142 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 3: not even conservative, who have stopped being crazy. You know, 143 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 3: we can welcome them into the ten without thinking they're 144 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 3: the messiah. 145 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. This is a different thing. 146 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 3: I mean, I have noticed this trend on the right 147 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 3: recently of oh, someone has said a couple of the 148 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 3: right things in the last year, so now we love 149 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 3: them forever. Some of us have been saying the right 150 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 3: thing for many years, some cases many decades. Okay, So 151 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 3: if you're looking for like long term wisdom, I wouldn't 152 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 3: all of a sudden you know, you know, I don't 153 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 3: know Russell Brand. You know, is he a great guy? 154 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 4: Now? 155 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 3: I have no idea, but I think it's funny that 156 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 3: people are like, oh my gosh, he's so conservative. I'm like, 157 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 3: can we give it a year, Like, let's just see 158 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 3: how it goes first. I mean, there's a lot of 159 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 3: these people that I would put in this category. And 160 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,439 Speaker 3: Mark Zuckerberg it just makes me think of this clay 161 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 3: because Okay, so he's no longer actively subverting with Zuckerbucks 162 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 3: going to Democrat causes and massively undermining conservative message. You know, 163 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 3: he's no longer a huge, you know, enemy of free 164 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 3: speech the same way he was. 165 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 4: But let's see what he does. Do you know what 166 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 4: I'm saying? Like, this is it. It's one thing to 167 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 4: see this as good. 168 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 3: It's another thing to think think, oh, like the war 169 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 3: is won, or oh yeay, we can trust this guy. 170 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 4: Now I'm still a little skeptical. Do you see what 171 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 4: I mean? 172 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? 173 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: No, I mean I totally get it. And this is 174 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: what my wife said. And we'll play these audio clips 175 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: for you maybe when we come back in a sec. 176 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 1: Because I want to really kind of dive into it. 177 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: But there is no recognition by and large of the 178 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 1: people who were so dramatically wrong on all of this 179 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: that they were dramatically wrong. And I would say that 180 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: some form the twenty twenty four election is a referendum 181 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: on how wrong many people in the legacy media were. 182 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: But all those people who lecture us that we were 183 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: going to be on the wrong side of history if 184 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,079 Speaker 1: we voted for Trump, or we were on the wrong 185 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: side of history because we weren't standing with our backs on 186 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: the elevator with masks on, or sitting in circles in parks, 187 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: they just kind of vanished. They never really admitted by 188 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: and large, hey, we were wrong about everything. Zuckerberg's statement, 189 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,559 Speaker 1: which we're going to play for you, will play one 190 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: cut of it right here, and then we'll play the 191 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: other one for you coming back, really is an endorsement 192 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: of which much of what we've said on this program 193 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 1: for the last four years. Zuckerberg admits that the government 194 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 1: was artificially putting pressure on him to curtail your and 195 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: mine and everyone out there's free speech rights. The government 196 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: cannot use a third party to do what it itself 197 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 1: would otherwise not be constitutionally able to do. That's what 198 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: they did, and that's what we've been telling you that 199 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: they did. Listen to Cut three. This is Zuckerberg saying 200 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: it's gone too far. 201 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 5: First, we're going to get rid of fact checkers and 202 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:06,719 Speaker 5: replace them with community notes similar to X. Starting in 203 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 5: the US, after Trump first got elected in twenty sixteen, 204 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 5: the legacy media wrote NonStop about how misinformation was a 205 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 5: threat to democracy. We tried, in good faith to address 206 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 5: those concerns without becoming the arbiters of truth. But the 207 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 5: fact checkers have just been too politically biased and have 208 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 5: destroyed more trusts than they've created, especially in the US. 209 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 5: So over the next couple of months, we're going to 210 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 5: phase in a more comprehensive community notes system. 211 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: Okay, this is huge, buck, and we'll talk about all 212 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: the consequences of this will unpack basically, this Zuckerberg statement 213 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: will play a bit more of it for you going forward. 214 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: But this is a seismic victory for those of us 215 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:49,839 Speaker 1: who believe in a crazy idea. 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I feel sometimes I feel like I 250 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,199 Speaker 3: saw a pedal. What Trump says. I'm just gonna tell you. 251 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 3: He straight up said, we're gonna start calling it not 252 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:46,719 Speaker 3: the Gulf of Mexico but the Gulf of America. We're 253 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 3: gonna rename it the Gulf of America. And you know 254 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 3: this stuff about naming and some of these what could 255 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 3: seem Clay like maybe you know, superficial changes or something. 256 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 3: These things we all have implications. And you know, the 257 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 3: left understands that they understand the Democrats, they understand the 258 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:11,079 Speaker 3: power of language and demanding that certain words be used. 259 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 3: This is why they also understand or why they want to, 260 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 3: you know, tear down statues whe they want to rename things, 261 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 3: they want to change the names of military bases. Wasn't 262 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 3: it the Obama administration that changed it from McKinley to Denale? 263 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 3: And now Trump is saying, We're going back to Mount McKinley, right, 264 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 3: I mean in all the military bases, yes, the. 265 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah. 266 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 3: So it's interesting, isn't it that On our side, I 267 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 3: think there's a little bit of a knee jerk reaction 268 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 3: to oh whatever, that's petty or that doesn't matter. By 269 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 3: the way, I'm not saying everyone feels that way, but 270 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 3: some people may just have that, you know, we got 271 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 3: bigger fish to fry mentality. Why would the left waste 272 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 3: their time? 273 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 4: Right? 274 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 2: What? 275 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 3: Why does it matter to them so much? But it 276 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 3: shouldn't matter to us at all. Clearly there's something to it, 277 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 3: and I think Trump pos looking at them in this 278 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 3: way and making these kinds of early proclamations is indicative 279 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 3: of the fact that he understands the narrative battle that 280 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 3: we're in as well. 281 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: I just think it's funny people are saying, Okay, how 282 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: do you do this? Because I do think it's interesting. 283 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: Like Marjorie Taylor Green is introducing a bill to rename 284 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America on 285 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: like all American maps and everything else. So you can say, oh, 286 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: this is crazy, but remember buck, how much time did 287 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: they spend saying you can't say Redskins, you can't say 288 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs, you can't say Atlanta Braves, you can't 289 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: say Cleveland Indians. The left has been obsessed with renaming 290 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: things to try and address cultural grievances that they have 291 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: decided need to be a major part of their social platform, 292 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: and we just take the punches. We never actually throw 293 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: a punch back and say, hey, how about we change 294 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: something that you might say, to your point, it's inconsequential, 295 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: but this is kind of using their playbook and throwing 296 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: it back in their face. 297 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean you have. 298 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 3: I mean, by the way, you have disputes between, for example, 299 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 3: China and all of its neighbors about you know, what 300 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 3: to call whether it's different islands. You know, there's the 301 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 3: what is it, there's the the Dayu and Senkaku islands, 302 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 3: and these these island change. You know, they've got multiple 303 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 3: names for it. You know, this is not an unheard 304 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 3: of thing. Now I understand you might say, well, we're 305 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 3: not in some dispute with Mexico over this. 306 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 4: I don't know, Maybe we are you maybe it's time. 307 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: And I'll also point out for people out there say, oh, 308 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: what does this matter? Oil and gas offshore, as you 309 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: talked about earlier, Biden is trying to restrict our ability 310 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: to use our offshore. 311 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 2: Oil and gas. 312 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 4: We should dive into this. By the way, it's it's 313 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 4: it's important. 314 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: And so something as inconsequential in theory of renaming an area. Basically, 315 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: it's saying this is the province of America, not the 316 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: province of Mexico. So if you know two hundred miles 317 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: off the coast, and I'm not an expert in oil 318 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: and gas, you know how long the far the continental 319 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 1: shelf exists. But this is a major issue of international trade. 320 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: There could be consequences associated with naming that tie into 321 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: that as well in terms of sovereignty and who has 322 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: rights to the oil and gas underseas. I still want 323 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 1: to play another Facebook too when we come back, continue 324 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:28,959 Speaker 1: to break this down, but I think it's Trump and 325 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: the agenda and the narrative basically flipping overnight in all facets. 326 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: This is how they're all connected and. 327 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 3: Our oil talk makes me reminds me, have you seen 328 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 3: this Landman show? 329 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:40,719 Speaker 4: Do I need to watch this? 330 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 2: I've heard it's really really good. 331 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 3: I might have to add this to the list. We'll 332 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 3: talk more about that too. Bear Creek Arsenal, my friends, 333 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 3: they are fantastic. 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We're talking 353 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 1: about all the different moving parts out there. The biggest 354 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 1: news of the day so far that face this book 355 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 1: has ended its fact checking. Let me hit you with 356 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,360 Speaker 1: a couple of more details about this decision. 357 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 2: Buck. 358 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 1: We've talked about how it's impacted us, how it's impacted 359 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: businesses out there. They're also moving the so called fact 360 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: checking rubric, which will now be similar to what Twitter 361 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 1: did with community notes. They're moving it to Texas from California. 362 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: That is, all of the employees involved there will be 363 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 1: in Texas now. That I think is also significant because 364 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: it basically means this will be occurring under the auspices 365 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 1: of Texas law, which is more protective of free speech 366 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: rights than California law would be. 367 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 2: So if Facebook is. 368 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: Sued over the way that they implement this, you would 369 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: have a more favorable jurisdiction in Texas by and large 370 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: compared to elsewhere in California, for instance. But again, this 371 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:58,199 Speaker 1: is very significant. It's a direct result of Trump winning. 372 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: So if you are out there and saying would this 373 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: have happened if Kamala Harris had won the election, I 374 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,919 Speaker 1: think the answer is no. Remember, Zuckerberg has been to 375 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 1: dinner with Trump at Mar A Lago. He has pledged 376 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 1: on behalf of Facebook a million dollars for the inauguration. 377 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: He has described Trump's response to the assassination as badass. 378 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: I am told that the relationship between Trump and Zuckerberg 379 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: on a personal level has become much better. And Zuckerberg 380 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 1: now says he's going to work with Donald Trump to 381 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 1: fight the censorship industrial complex. This was a part of 382 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: the statement that he released. Let me also reminds you 383 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:44,719 Speaker 1: they now have a Republican, former Republican staffer in charge 384 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: of all their government affairs. And you know where they 385 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:52,679 Speaker 1: announced this new policy buck on Fox News this morning 386 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 1: on Fox and Friends, probably with the idea being that 387 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: President Trump, who watches Fox News all the time, likely 388 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: to have been watching. But here is Mark Zuckerberg cut 389 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 1: Ford talking about working with Trump going forward. 390 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 5: We're going to work with President Trump to push back 391 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 5: on governments around the world. They're going after American companies 392 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 5: and pushing to censor more. Europe has an ever increasing 393 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 5: number of laws institutionalizing censorship and making it difficult to 394 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 5: build anything innovative there. Latin American countries have secret courts 395 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 5: that can order companies to quietly take things down. China 396 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 5: has sensored of apps from even working in the country. 397 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 5: The only way that we can push back on this 398 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 5: global trend is with the support of the US government, 399 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 5: and that's why it's been so difficult over the past 400 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 5: four years. When even the US government has pushed for 401 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 5: censorship by going after US and other American companies, it 402 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 5: has emboldened other governments to go even further. 403 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: Block We were right about everything. Trump was right about everything, 404 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 1: and this is as close to an acknowledgment that he 405 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: was wrong about the way that Facebook handled censorship as 406 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 1: you're ever going to see from Mark Zuckerberg. Now, my 407 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: wife and I bet a lot of you out there 408 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: are still angry about this, and you want more of 409 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: a final resolution maybe than what you've gotten, more consequences. 410 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,360 Speaker 1: But I think this is about as good as you're 411 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:18,919 Speaker 1: going to get from an American CEO. 412 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 3: Yes, I also think, though it's fair to point out 413 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 3: that Yeah, you know, now he's all about free speech 414 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 3: and free expression after getting it wrong, and when the 415 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 3: political wins favor it. I mean, there's a lot of 416 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 3: there's a lot of advantage right now with the incoming 417 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 3: Trump administration to take this position. I'm just saying, I 418 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,199 Speaker 3: don't think that what Mark Zuckerber's doing. Mark Zuckerberg is 419 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 3: doing here isn't any way brave or even rooted in principle. 420 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 3: I think that it is somewhat cunning and political, as in, 421 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 3: he understands that this is in the interest of Facebook 422 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 3: right now, and so he's doing it. 423 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 4: You know, he has gone through some changes recently. You know, 424 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 4: he does kind of dress like a. 425 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 3: Guy in a nineties movie who would be like selling 426 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 3: ecstasy outside of a nightclub now or something. I mean, 427 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 3: you know, he's changed up a lot. He's a little 428 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 3: different than he used to be. Does a little bit 429 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 3: of jiu jitsu. You know, he's a little more of 430 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 3: a bro than he used to be. So maybe he 431 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 3: is truly a little bit more right wing. And I 432 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 3: will also say this, I don't ever want to discount that. 433 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 3: I think people have learned the left became very, very 434 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 3: assertive and very powerful as a result of COVID in 435 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 3: a way and is particularly online, in a way that 436 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 3: I think allowed them to show us their absolute worst 437 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 3: impulses and the worst side of who they are as 438 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 3: people and who they are ideologically. And I think it 439 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 3: scared a lot of folks. And I think more than that, 440 00:23:56,040 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 3: the results for the country were disastrous. The results of 441 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:04,400 Speaker 3: the increased power and assertiveness of the left online and 442 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 3: in real life were horrific and and just took us 443 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 3: into the land of crazy town. And so the pushback 444 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 3: to that is in earnest right. So I think there 445 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 3: are a lot of people who have been red pilled 446 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 3: truly because of what has happened. I totally see that, 447 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 3: you know, I think Mark Zuckerberg, we just got to 448 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 3: take it a little bit step by step. 449 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:25,919 Speaker 4: Here, we'll see. 450 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 3: I mean, I haven't forgotten all the times when I 451 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 3: was trying to get the word out about what was true, 452 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 3: you know, sharing Bearnson articles, Alex Parentson articles, things like 453 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 3: that on Facebook, and just it was maddening. You get 454 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:42,120 Speaker 3: these like strikes, you get these shutdowns and the whole thing, 455 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 3: and you could say, the most insane stuff that the 456 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 3: Democrats approve of and you would never get anything. And 457 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 3: it was a very uh, you know, Orwellian nineteen eighty 458 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 3: four existence that we all had then at a time 459 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 3: when it really mattered and it really counted. So, you know, 460 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 3: COVID was the stress test, and social media absolutely failed us. 461 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,439 Speaker 3: We need to change the structures now such that that 462 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 3: will never happen again. 463 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: And remember, all we're trying to do is just say 464 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 1: you should be able to debate topics freely without people 465 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: parachuting in and deciding to become arbiters of what's true 466 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 1: or false. That the line between fact and opinion is 467 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 1: one of the most difficult lines I think for any 468 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: media company to try to finesse, because what we should 469 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: have is a very strict understanding of what fact is. 470 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 1: For instance, if Buck, if I came on today and 471 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: I said, hey, you know what, I think water actually 472 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: freezes at thirty five degrees, you might sit there and 473 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,880 Speaker 1: listen and be like, okay, but you're wrong. Water freezes 474 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,439 Speaker 1: at thirty two degrees. If I came on with you 475 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: and I said, hey, based on looking at this forecast, 476 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: Texas is going to get slammed. 477 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 2: I think if I. 478 00:25:55,880 --> 00:26:00,080 Speaker 1: Had some meteorologic meteorological knowledge, for sure. I think that 479 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 1: it's actually going to be colder than people expect, and 480 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: they're going to get way more snow than what the 481 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 1: forecast are forecasting. That's an opinion, right, So, and I 482 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 1: use that because a lot of this fact checking was 483 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: fact checking opinion and actually saying your opinion is wrong, 484 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: for instance. And this is one that I think is 485 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: so key. Where did COVID come from? We still don't know. 486 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 1: I think one reason we don't officially know is because 487 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: they curtailed our ability to actually examine that in the 488 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: immediate aftermath of COVID. 489 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 4: Right. 490 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,679 Speaker 1: I think the evidence supports that COVID came from a 491 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 1: Chinese lab. Some of you may disagree and believe that 492 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 1: it was zoonotic in origin, that is, animal based in origin. 493 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: But the fact that we weren't able to actually have 494 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: that debate actually contributed to our inability to determine the 495 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: real truth. And the entire fabric of a democrat republic 496 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: is we should all be able to thoroughly argue our 497 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 1: own opinions and get the best results. 498 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 3: To the other thing, though, and this is what I 499 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 3: think was so so totalitarian about what happened at Facebook 500 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 3: and Twitter. 501 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 4: Let me just say, I know some of you aren't 502 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 4: very active. 503 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 3: A lot of you aren't very active on social media, 504 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 3: and by the way, it probably makes your lives better. 505 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 3: So congratulations, and I mean that. But I don't think 506 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,400 Speaker 3: Donald Trump loses. Don't tell me, oh, but he won, 507 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I don't think Joe Biden 508 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 3: ever becomes president without the social media censorship and deeplatforming 509 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,120 Speaker 3: and hiding Hunter laptop. 510 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 4: Story, etc. That occurred. 511 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 3: Okay, so I think that Donald Trump would be ending 512 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 3: his second term right now. So in a sense, maybe 513 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:39,719 Speaker 3: you're kind of like, well, at least we get four 514 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 3: years of Trump now, Fine, But I think that without 515 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 3: that they wouldn't have been able to pull off what 516 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 3: they did in twenty twenty, all other things being equal, 517 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 3: I think that that was a deciding factor and really 518 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 3: a form of cheating, a form of you know, weighing 519 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 3: the scales down artificially in favor of Biden. So that's 520 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 3: that's a major part of this. But Clay, also we're 521 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 3: talking about what they've what they're fact checking was things 522 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 3: that they said were untrue that were true, and things 523 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 3: that they insisted. 524 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 4: Were true were clearly untrue. I mean, remember that Elon 525 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 4: decided that. 526 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 3: He had to buy and again, apologies for my voice, 527 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 3: folks keeps getting worse. Elon decided that he had to 528 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 3: buy Twitter basically because of a joke the Babylon be 529 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 3: made about a man costuming as a woman who was 530 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 3: getting the like who they gave the Man of the 531 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 3: Year award too, because he had received the Woman of 532 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 3: the Year award, And so the Facebook censorship regime was 533 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 3: such that you had to refer to a trans woman 534 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 3: as a man or a trans man as a woman. Right, 535 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 3: So what I'm saying is it was mandatory lies, and 536 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 3: mandatory lies is the ultimate power. If you can get 537 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 3: people to lie at will, you can get them to 538 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 3: do absolutely anything. It was tremendous harm that Facebook and 539 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 3: these other platforms were involved and perpetrating, of course, in 540 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 3: the name of preventing Harmon, by the way, is true 541 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 3: of all totalitarians. I mean, if you were to sit 542 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 3: down with the Kim dynasty in North Korea, they'd have 543 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 3: a million different ways of telling you what they do 544 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 3: is necessary to prevent the destruction of their country, and 545 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:20,959 Speaker 3: it's all lies. 546 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: I'm just catching up. I hadn't even seen the dollar figure. 547 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: I saw you share this. This all ties in with 548 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: how everything is changing with the Trump win. Amazon gave 549 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: forty million dollars for the Milania Trump documentary. Yes, holy cow, 550 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: that's Michelle Obama kind of money. 551 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? No, no, do, no doubt. 552 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 1: But I mean, to the point we're making about suddenly 553 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: Elon led the charge, Zuckerberg, Bezos, Tim Cook at Apple, 554 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: a lot of these other executives that are very wealthy 555 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: and very powerful leading to companies in twenty sixteen, There's 556 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: no way they would have for a forty million dollar 557 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: Milania Trump documentary. This is the same stuff, whether you 558 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: like it or not, to your point, buck, that a 559 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: Michelle Obama would be getting when she gets a you know, 560 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: she writes a book and she gets a twenty million 561 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: dollar advance, or the Obamas have a Netflix deal and 562 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: they're making, like, you know, some mediocre movie but they 563 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: get hundreds of millions of dollars in order to invest 564 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: in that. Or even Megan Markle, who continues to get 565 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: tons of money. Netflix, I know has got some new 566 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: Megan Markle documentary. But this is a vibe shift in 567 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: seismic ways, and I think what Mark Zuckerberg is saying 568 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: publicly is what a lot of tech CEOs are feeling privately. 569 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: And I think you have to give a lot of 570 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: credit to Elon because he has charged to up the 571 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: hill to such an extent. He took all the shrapnel, 572 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 1: he took all the oncoming fire, and it hasn't dented him. 573 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: And a lot of people, let's be honest, to be 574 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: behind the first wave. They're very comfortable being in the 575 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: second or third wave after all of the major fighting 576 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: has already taken place. 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Let's let Fred and Fairfax, 611 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 3: Virginia's Colin and he actually wants to talk about this. 612 00:32:59,000 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 4: What's up Fred? 613 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 7: Hi there? 614 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 4: How you doing good? 615 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 2: How are you. 616 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 7: Really good? Just with regard to a couple of things 617 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 7: you were talking about early in the show, and they're 618 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 7: sort of factoids. First of all, we were talking about 619 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 7: how Biden was restricting drilling in our territorial waters all 620 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 7: around the country, up Alaska and every place else. At 621 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 7: the same time, there is at least one and probably 622 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 7: more Chinese drilling platforms in the Gulf of Mexico right now, 623 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 7: probably Chinese owned and operated, certainly Chinese owned, and you 624 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 7: can check on that. But it's sort of irony that 625 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 7: he would be Biden would be doing this at the 626 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 7: same time that the Chinese are already out there and 627 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 7: they're drilling in international waters and probably thumbing their nose 628 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 7: at us at the same time. The other thing was 629 00:33:56,520 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 7: with regard to your conversation on Greenland, the uh, the 630 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,719 Speaker 7: issue really is, as far as I think is Trump 631 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 7: and certainly the military and the White House are concerned. 632 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 7: The Trump White House is the fact that Greenland is 633 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 7: in the perfect geostrategic position between Iceland and Canada, which 634 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 7: are both NATO countries, and we've got we've got a 635 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 7: base in Iceland, a NATO base that we we can use. 636 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 7: And so it's it's right up there exactly where where 637 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 7: we would like to have more influence and probably military 638 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 7: force presence at. 639 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 4: We already have. 640 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 3: I mean, we have a US Space Force base on 641 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 3: the northwest coast of Greenland right now. 642 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 7: Yeah, but Space Force ain't gonna hack it when you're 643 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,720 Speaker 7: talking about Russian ships in China. 644 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 4: No, I know. 645 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 3: I'm just saying we already have a you, we have 646 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 3: a presence there that we could build out more. I mean, 647 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 3: I'm trying to build on what you're saying by pointing 648 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 3: out we already have a foothold there. 649 00:34:59,080 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 2: Fred. 650 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 1: Question for you, you and you may know and likely 651 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 1: do way more than Buck or I would about this situation. 652 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 1: One of the fascinating things to me about the extraction 653 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,799 Speaker 1: of oil and gas is defining where the footprint is 654 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 1: and who has the right to own that footprint. In 655 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 1: other words, if you think about it almost like a straw, 656 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 1: the straw can suck that that oil and gas. You know, 657 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 1: you dig deep with that straw and then you're sucking 658 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: from a variety of different perspectives. 659 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 2: Right, for international oil and. 660 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 1: Gas, if we are giving up the right to be 661 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 1: going and getting oil and gas offshore, to your point, 662 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,399 Speaker 1: China's like, okay, we'll take it. In other words, it's 663 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 1: not as if that that that oil and gas is 664 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 1: staying in the water or sorry say staying underground. China 665 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: is then hoovering in and taking what we're turning down. Right, 666 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,720 Speaker 1: it's it's very poor from a just pure business perspective decision. 667 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, well, also from a military position. If you remember 668 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 7: what happened in Kuwait. Kuwait was accused by Saddam of 669 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:09,840 Speaker 7: putting in a drilling that was taking oil out of Iraq, 670 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,880 Speaker 7: and that was one of the reasons why Saddam went 671 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,840 Speaker 7: down to Kuwaitah was because he was accusing them of 672 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 7: they had They had drilling on their property in Kuwait, 673 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 7: on their land, but it was taking from the pool 674 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 7: that was in a very productive part of Iraq. 675 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,240 Speaker 2: Thank you for the call. I think this is super important. 676 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 2: Trump sees it. 677 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,959 Speaker 1: Biden is trying to do everything he can to muck 678 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 1: it all up on his way out. We'll talk more 679 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 1: about this and continue to break down the absolute latest 680 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 1: Gulf of America. 681 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:43,399 Speaker 2: It's a new age boys and girl