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Speaker 3: Light here now and everything on outside the door too soft?

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Speaker 5: Yes, a little fill in action.

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Speaker 3: I like that.

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Speaker 5: We were five star recruits coming out of high school.

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Speaker 5: We had all American careers in college. We're used to

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Speaker 5: making good plays. Why we actually we never made a

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Speaker 3: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Wednesday here

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Speaker 3: at j Let's Stadium, and it's Paul and myself holding

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Speaker 3: down the fort until Evan gets here and Deuce gets

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Speaker 3: had Gerrad Mayo with his press conference. Today is weekly

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Speaker 3: Wednesday press conference. We'll talk about that because I didn't listen,

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Speaker 3: but Paul did. Uh but uh, you know, not breaking news.

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Speaker 3: But they announced the twenty five finalists for the Hall

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Speaker 3: of Fame and is semi finalists three point five Patriots

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Speaker 3: on their semifinals.

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Speaker 5: Technically, if you want to get really technical, there are

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Speaker 5: seven guys that had Patriot of ties highs in some

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Speaker 5: come down to Vince will Fork and and Adam Vinit Terry.

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Speaker 5: You know really, but you got you know, Fred Tyler, Uh,

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Speaker 5: you know Fred Taylor, James Harrison, you know guys that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they were here.

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Speaker 5: But then you have like Reggie Wayne and Tory Holts. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: But yeah, yeah, so it was Harry.

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Speaker 3: Vinitarry to me, is my my biggest.

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Speaker 5: Lock, your biggest lock. I think that's probably a bit

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Speaker 3: If any kicker should be in, it should be him.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. I think the argument would be, where do we

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Speaker 3: And I put punches and kickers in the same category, right, Ray, guys.

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Speaker 5: In no, Adam Van Terry belongs in the Hall of Fame, right,

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Speaker 5: I don't think there's an argument, but it's I'm asking

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Speaker 5: if you think he goes over. I don't even know

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Speaker 3: No, but I'm but kind of to me, like, if

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Did he dominate a kicker, Yes he did.

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Speaker 3: He had some of the greatest kicks in the history.

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Speaker 5: Of football that he did.

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Speaker 3: But he had two to at least two Super Bowl

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Speaker 5: He did not dominate on the biggest stage. He did.

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Speaker 5: But much like Adam had the game winning kicks. But

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Speaker 3: No, it's true, but there's a much higher at quarterback

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Speaker 3: best kicker to ever be nominated for the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 5: He's the most clutch kicker ever to be nominated. That's

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Speaker 5: Okay. So that's all I'm saying is he's the most clutch.

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Speaker 5: I just don't agree with your reasoning, that's all.

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Speaker 3: And he did it for two teams, folks.

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Speaker 5: That's how I do it. That's how I managed to

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Speaker 5: him on. Anyways, Adam goes right in if you ask me.

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Speaker 3: And like, you know, I think it's a decent list

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Speaker 5: No, right? So is he a Hall of Fame quarterback. No,

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Speaker 3: Right, So that's why you have to look at errors.

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Speaker 5: And that's why I think it's going to be difficult

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Speaker 3: So there's that, and you listen to draw today. What

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Speaker 5: I would say that it was a pretty mundane Wednesday

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Speaker 3: A very exactly what is it? I believe that's the

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Speaker 5: But he He also added that David Andrews has been

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Speaker 3: Well, especially if you're thinking they have a need might

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Speaker 5: You know, like what do we do? This is not

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Speaker 5: best he can. You know, Quinn Williams dominated him. You

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Speaker 5: know that they're having they're having a hard time. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: they're having a hard time in the middle. So if

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Speaker 5: Cole Strange can play the center spot, does he.

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Speaker 3: Have the body type for that because he gets over

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but well he's a little he's a little tall,

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Speaker 5: I would say, yeah, center, But he's that kind of

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Speaker 3: Well, he moves well, there's no doubt about it. But like, like,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so at center, I mean he's bigger than David Andrews.

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Speaker 5: I would say so?

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Speaker 3: Really, Okay, I thought David Andrews has maybe a lower

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Speaker 5: Maybe he's not as tall. Yeah, but I think I

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Speaker 3: But I also give reasoning, like why I hate them.

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Speaker 5: You walk He was playing poorly?

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Speaker 5: He refuses to move.

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Speaker 3: But in Israel, the Jets haven't won since sixty eight.

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Speaker 5: No, I know, But but it's not because they're cursed,

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Speaker 3: No, they're not curse, they're idiots.

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Speaker 3: I might be anyway. Speaking of Tom Brady, a lot

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, I think that's that's valid. Now what I would

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Speaker 5: it's what might happen around it exactly the way you described.

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Speaker 3: I would not want that if I was Andy Reid

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Speaker 3: What if you don't think it's what if.

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Speaker 5: They what if they let's you know, I'm just trying

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Speaker 5: But what if they end up just you know, the

439
00:21:03,313 --> 00:21:05,513
Speaker 5: two of them end up, you know, having lunch together,

440
00:21:05,674 --> 00:21:08,474
Speaker 5: just the two of them. I don't I get what

441
00:21:08,513 --> 00:21:10,593
Speaker 5: you're saying, Like, I wouldn't want to Andy Reid or

442
00:21:10,593 --> 00:21:11,074
Speaker 5: Clock Hunt.

443
00:21:11,073 --> 00:21:13,593
Speaker 3: I don't think it's illegal. It depends on how it was,

444
00:21:13,793 --> 00:21:15,994
Speaker 3: how did it come about, you know.

445
00:21:16,033 --> 00:21:18,593
Speaker 5: Like if it came about innocently, it would be okay.

446
00:21:18,994 --> 00:21:20,754
Speaker 5: Because I totally get what you're saying. I'm not trying

447
00:21:20,754 --> 00:21:24,593
Speaker 5: to be argumentative like I normally am. I'm just it's

448
00:21:24,674 --> 00:21:27,234
Speaker 5: it's just saying line. But but he shouldn't. He shouldn't

449
00:21:27,273 --> 00:21:29,434
Speaker 5: be able to do both. I don't think there's any questions.

450
00:21:29,474 --> 00:21:31,754
Speaker 5: But even Robert kra can't serve two masters.

451
00:21:31,793 --> 00:21:35,553
Speaker 3: Even Robert Kraft right now doesn't have the kind of

452
00:21:35,634 --> 00:21:40,913
Speaker 3: access to other teams that the A team broadcast, you know,

453
00:21:41,353 --> 00:21:42,833
Speaker 3: without color Man has.

454
00:21:43,313 --> 00:21:44,913
Speaker 5: He should not be allowed to do both. And my

455
00:21:44,994 --> 00:21:46,914
Speaker 5: guess is when this year is over, that's going to

456
00:21:46,954 --> 00:21:49,353
Speaker 5: be It's going to be Tom Brady's broadcasting career. But

457
00:21:49,394 --> 00:21:51,793
Speaker 5: I don't know that. No one's written that, and no

458
00:21:51,833 --> 00:21:55,553
Speaker 5: one's told me that, But that would be to me,

459
00:21:55,634 --> 00:21:57,154
Speaker 5: the best way to go here.

460
00:21:57,234 --> 00:21:59,833
Speaker 3: And then somebody. So on one of your shows this morning,

461
00:21:59,833 --> 00:22:01,873
Speaker 3: they were talking That's why I was thinking about. They

462
00:22:01,914 --> 00:22:04,594
Speaker 3: were talking about it and then said, yeah, they said

463
00:22:04,634 --> 00:22:06,274
Speaker 3: what you said, it'll be one and done. I think

464
00:22:06,313 --> 00:22:09,154
Speaker 3: it was Curtis, and he said, you know, that's not

465
00:22:09,234 --> 00:22:13,033
Speaker 3: my show. But then Wiggy said, yeah, so after this

466
00:22:13,154 --> 00:22:15,153
Speaker 3: year it'll be done, and then he'll be with the

467
00:22:15,194 --> 00:22:17,473
Speaker 3: Raiders and you know he'll be the guy helping the

468
00:22:17,513 --> 00:22:21,513
Speaker 3: owner hire coaches and doing all like. No, he really

469
00:22:21,754 --> 00:22:24,434
Speaker 3: he's now going to become the de facto GM, he said,

470
00:22:24,674 --> 00:22:26,113
Speaker 3: much like Elway was.

471
00:22:26,234 --> 00:22:27,954
Speaker 5: Yeah, see, that's exactly what I was going to say.

472
00:22:28,114 --> 00:22:30,033
Speaker 5: So he's going to fill a John Elway role.

473
00:22:30,114 --> 00:22:30,474
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't.

474
00:22:30,513 --> 00:22:31,434
Speaker 5: I don't see that either.

475
00:22:31,513 --> 00:22:33,714
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't you see this as more of like that's

476
00:22:33,714 --> 00:22:34,593
Speaker 3: a full time job.

477
00:22:34,714 --> 00:22:37,113
Speaker 5: Isn't this more of like to you like, this is

478
00:22:37,114 --> 00:22:38,033
Speaker 5: a business opportunity.

479
00:22:38,033 --> 00:22:41,314
Speaker 3: It's a business opinal opportunity. He's already invested in Vegas.

480
00:22:41,353 --> 00:22:44,194
Speaker 3: He's got the women's basketball team. I think he sees

481
00:22:44,234 --> 00:22:48,194
Speaker 3: it as a building an empire, building a sports exactly

482
00:22:48,593 --> 00:22:51,553
Speaker 3: in Vegas, and so, uh, that's why he's doing it.

483
00:22:51,553 --> 00:22:53,353
Speaker 3: I don't think he's doing it because he wants to

484
00:22:53,353 --> 00:22:53,954
Speaker 3: play GM.

485
00:22:54,114 --> 00:22:56,754
Speaker 5: Yeah again, I don't think you know either.

486
00:22:56,833 --> 00:22:57,154
Speaker 3: I don't.

487
00:22:57,194 --> 00:22:59,234
Speaker 5: I don't know. Maybe he does, but I would be

488
00:22:59,273 --> 00:22:59,953
Speaker 5: surprised if that.

489
00:22:59,954 --> 00:23:01,674
Speaker 3: But if you're going to be a GM, that's you're

490
00:23:01,714 --> 00:23:03,474
Speaker 3: there full time a lot of that's a lot of work,

491
00:23:03,553 --> 00:23:04,273
Speaker 3: a lot of work.

492
00:23:04,434 --> 00:23:06,793
Speaker 5: Now, I do think that having a guy like that,

493
00:23:08,114 --> 00:23:10,914
Speaker 5: you know, as a ceremonial figurehead, it could be valuable.

494
00:23:11,033 --> 00:23:13,714
Speaker 3: Sure, you know, And to me that just rubs me

495
00:23:14,194 --> 00:23:19,433
Speaker 3: so wrong. He's the ceremonial figurehead of the Raiders, the

496
00:23:19,474 --> 00:23:22,593
Speaker 3: guy with the tuck rule that probably ended your run.

497
00:23:22,833 --> 00:23:31,154
Speaker 5: Sounds like one of those tough five might be well fringe, Yeah,

498
00:23:31,194 --> 00:23:33,234
Speaker 5: I got a couple. I got two locks in the

499
00:23:33,273 --> 00:23:36,834
Speaker 5: top five that aren't there. But anyway, I'll let you

500
00:23:36,954 --> 00:23:37,393
Speaker 5: unveil it.

501
00:23:38,154 --> 00:23:41,794
Speaker 3: Just it, just it. This whole Brady with the Raiders

502
00:23:41,793 --> 00:23:46,874
Speaker 3: thing every day rubs me worse. I just don't like it.

503
00:23:46,874 --> 00:23:50,394
Speaker 3: It's wrong. I want him to divest and I want

504
00:23:50,474 --> 00:23:54,354
Speaker 3: Robert Kraft to say, come here, I'll let you buy

505
00:23:54,714 --> 00:23:57,354
Speaker 3: one or two percent of this team. This is where

506
00:23:57,394 --> 00:24:02,234
Speaker 3: your love Tom, not in Las Vegas, for crying out loud,

507
00:24:02,754 --> 00:24:06,114
Speaker 3: certainly not with the Raiders. This is where you.

508
00:24:07,553 --> 00:24:09,793
Speaker 5: There's nowhere that he's going to have the adoration.

509
00:24:10,474 --> 00:24:14,634
Speaker 3: What are we doing here? It's just it's not right.

510
00:24:14,754 --> 00:24:16,474
Speaker 5: He doesn't love it here. I mean I think it's.

511
00:24:16,394 --> 00:24:19,474
Speaker 3: Pretty clear, you know how like when magnets like are opposite.

512
00:24:19,874 --> 00:24:22,394
Speaker 3: This is what it's like, Raiders and Brady.

513
00:24:22,553 --> 00:24:26,273
Speaker 5: That doesn't match dogs and cats living together.

514
00:24:26,754 --> 00:24:29,393
Speaker 3: Oh it's just a money play. I hate it. I

515
00:24:29,474 --> 00:24:34,154
Speaker 3: hate it anyway, all right? Eight five five PATS five

516
00:24:34,234 --> 00:24:38,674
Speaker 3: hundred is the tpx houtline podcast at patriots dot com.

517
00:24:38,754 --> 00:24:42,914
Speaker 3: Is the email address we got people calling, people emailing.

518
00:24:42,994 --> 00:24:46,234
Speaker 3: We'll have evan induced coming soon, so we should probably

519
00:24:46,273 --> 00:24:48,194
Speaker 3: get to what the listeners have to say because once

520
00:24:48,234 --> 00:24:54,394
Speaker 3: even comes here, you know, just kidding it. No, Trevor's

521
00:24:54,394 --> 00:24:55,913
Speaker 3: in Kansas City. What's up, Trevor?

522
00:24:57,353 --> 00:25:00,154
Speaker 7: Hey, guys, I have two points I wanted to make,

523
00:25:00,234 --> 00:25:03,234
Speaker 7: and the probably well can you hear me, Trevor?

524
00:25:03,394 --> 00:25:03,594
Speaker 3: Yeah?

525
00:25:03,593 --> 00:25:04,353
Speaker 5: I think I can hear it.

526
00:25:04,553 --> 00:25:07,833
Speaker 3: Hear yeah, Matt. I don't think the speaker, but I

527
00:25:07,954 --> 00:25:11,353
Speaker 3: think the speaker might have popped here. I heard it go.

528
00:25:11,954 --> 00:25:12,593
Speaker 5: Is that what it was?

529
00:25:12,874 --> 00:25:13,833
Speaker 3: Can you hear me? Guys?

530
00:25:13,994 --> 00:25:15,914
Speaker 5: So hold on and hold on that line.

531
00:25:16,434 --> 00:25:17,394
Speaker 3: Can I put them on hold?

532
00:25:17,474 --> 00:25:19,273
Speaker 5: We'll get to here the second I'll put them on hold.

533
00:25:19,313 --> 00:25:22,954
Speaker 3: I just put Trevor on hold, although.

534
00:25:22,674 --> 00:25:26,114
Speaker 5: We'll do it live. Yeah, yeah, I think they might

535
00:25:26,273 --> 00:25:30,674
Speaker 5: might have something might just happen to that. What else

536
00:25:30,754 --> 00:25:38,194
Speaker 5: oh Dolphins. Yeah, yeah, this is this is It's gonna

537
00:25:38,234 --> 00:25:39,113
Speaker 5: be a tough spot.

538
00:25:39,273 --> 00:25:41,714
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm looking for a big game for my guy,

539
00:25:41,833 --> 00:25:42,593
Speaker 3: Marcus Jones.

540
00:25:42,634 --> 00:25:46,313
Speaker 5: Miami can't Miami can't afford to lose this game. I

541
00:25:46,313 --> 00:25:50,354
Speaker 5: don't like that situation. Yeah, you know, they they're claring

542
00:25:50,394 --> 00:25:53,033
Speaker 5: their way back and they're probably at best gonna you know,

543
00:25:53,073 --> 00:25:55,793
Speaker 5: if they can, things can work out for them. Maybe

544
00:25:55,793 --> 00:25:58,554
Speaker 5: they can squeak out nine wins, which might get you

545
00:25:58,714 --> 00:26:02,113
Speaker 5: the seventh spot, you know, in the wild card. But

546
00:26:02,833 --> 00:26:04,633
Speaker 5: if they're going to do that, they can't afford to

547
00:26:04,714 --> 00:26:07,234
Speaker 5: lose to the Patriots at home. They need that one.

548
00:26:07,353 --> 00:26:09,073
Speaker 5: So I don't I don't like I don't like the spot.

549
00:26:09,234 --> 00:26:12,033
Speaker 3: All right, let's see. Should I try it now? All right,

550
00:26:12,154 --> 00:26:16,474
Speaker 3: let's see Trevor you're there, can you hear me?

551
00:26:16,513 --> 00:26:16,833
Speaker 5: Guys?

552
00:26:17,194 --> 00:26:21,673
Speaker 3: We got problems. We got speaker problems. All right, Sorry, Trevor.

553
00:26:22,513 --> 00:26:25,153
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe you can call back later. I'll get to

554
00:26:25,273 --> 00:26:26,594
Speaker 3: some emails. Oh that's too.

555
00:26:26,394 --> 00:26:28,834
Speaker 5: Bad, all right, get to some emails.

556
00:26:28,914 --> 00:26:32,833
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had a weird thing happened to me today.

557
00:26:32,593 --> 00:26:35,513
Speaker 5: Paul, you want to share it.

558
00:26:35,754 --> 00:26:37,194
Speaker 3: I was in the bathroom.

559
00:26:37,553 --> 00:26:39,553
Speaker 5: I thought, how weird is this that? Before you share

560
00:26:39,593 --> 00:26:41,914
Speaker 5: it in front of the you know, a family audience. Yeah,

561
00:26:42,394 --> 00:26:44,634
Speaker 5: how weird? Is this situation weird?

562
00:26:44,674 --> 00:26:47,154
Speaker 3: It's just, you know, I think it's happened to everybody. Okay,

563
00:26:47,353 --> 00:26:49,833
Speaker 3: I thought I was alone and I was.

564
00:26:49,914 --> 00:26:50,793
Speaker 5: Now I'm really worried.

565
00:26:50,833 --> 00:26:53,273
Speaker 3: I was in my stall and I just started talking

566
00:26:53,313 --> 00:26:55,033
Speaker 3: to myself because I was trying to work out a

567
00:26:55,073 --> 00:26:59,353
Speaker 3: plan to deliver something to somebody. Yeah, so I started

568
00:26:59,353 --> 00:27:02,234
Speaker 3: talking out loud, and I think the person who I

569
00:27:02,273 --> 00:27:04,713
Speaker 3: didn't know was next to me wanted me to know

570
00:27:04,754 --> 00:27:06,754
Speaker 3: that he was there, so we started shuffling his feet.

571
00:27:07,474 --> 00:27:12,754
Speaker 5: So I was like, oh, you were talking to yourself,

572
00:27:12,793 --> 00:27:14,994
Speaker 5: thinking you will buy yourself. Yeah, and there was somebody

573
00:27:15,033 --> 00:27:16,754
Speaker 5: else in the bathroom next to me.

574
00:27:16,954 --> 00:27:17,154
Speaker 3: Yeah.

575
00:27:17,914 --> 00:27:20,714
Speaker 5: I told you, friend that that's like getting old. Yeah,

576
00:27:20,754 --> 00:27:23,674
Speaker 5: that's when you just got to go all right, Yeah, yeah,

577
00:27:23,714 --> 00:27:25,393
Speaker 5: all right, I'll let you go. Yeah right, Like I

578
00:27:25,513 --> 00:27:28,874
Speaker 5: was pretend on the phone, I don't give a crap.

579
00:27:30,874 --> 00:27:33,954
Speaker 3: John Risley. He says, I'm thinking about buying my mom

580
00:27:34,033 --> 00:27:37,714
Speaker 3: a new washer and dryer for Christmas. I know you're

581
00:27:37,754 --> 00:27:39,833
Speaker 3: the one that knows when it comes to appliances. Was

582
00:27:39,874 --> 00:27:43,194
Speaker 3: wondering any advice, Well, you know, I mean come on,

583
00:27:43,474 --> 00:27:46,593
Speaker 3: is that a setup question. I'm a speed Queen guy.

584
00:27:46,874 --> 00:27:49,593
Speaker 3: Speed Queen, Speed Queen. Now the question for your mother

585
00:27:49,833 --> 00:27:53,113
Speaker 3: is does she still have kids in the houses at

586
00:27:53,154 --> 00:27:57,273
Speaker 3: a large family, Because if it's a large family, speed

587
00:27:57,353 --> 00:28:00,273
Speaker 3: Queen may not be the way to go. You might

588
00:28:00,313 --> 00:28:04,073
Speaker 3: want a bigger washer and dryer that has more bells

589
00:28:04,114 --> 00:28:07,313
Speaker 3: and whistles because you're doing you know, bigger loads and everything.

590
00:28:07,353 --> 00:28:09,994
Speaker 3: But if she's it's just her and your dad or whatever,

591
00:28:10,394 --> 00:28:15,234
Speaker 3: small small, you know, workload, Speed Queen is the way

592
00:28:15,273 --> 00:28:18,033
Speaker 3: to go. Last forever, made in the US steel drum.

593
00:28:18,353 --> 00:28:19,553
Speaker 3: You know it doesn't break down.

594
00:28:20,273 --> 00:28:23,434
Speaker 5: Yea, what but you can't have a heavy workload.

595
00:28:23,674 --> 00:28:25,553
Speaker 3: Well no, I mean, like if you have like huge

596
00:28:25,553 --> 00:28:28,593
Speaker 3: loads because you've got six kids, like the LG's the

597
00:28:28,593 --> 00:28:34,034
Speaker 3: Samsungs have more bells and whistles and you know. But anyway,

598
00:28:34,234 --> 00:28:39,034
Speaker 3: speed Queen, Speed Queen. That's Freddy's Yeah, washer of we

599
00:28:39,114 --> 00:28:41,474
Speaker 3: have a lot of emails. Let's see what's going on.

600
00:28:41,914 --> 00:28:44,034
Speaker 5: Some of them.

601
00:28:44,834 --> 00:28:47,913
Speaker 3: Warren says, not great on YouTube, sounds like it's underwater.

602
00:28:48,994 --> 00:28:50,594
Speaker 3: Can we have somebody check YouTube?

603
00:28:50,634 --> 00:28:52,913
Speaker 5: There might be some some issues here. I think Matt's

604
00:28:53,074 --> 00:28:54,234
Speaker 5: scurrying around in the other.

605
00:28:54,194 --> 00:28:58,074
Speaker 3: Room at Can we have somebody check YouTube and how

606
00:28:58,114 --> 00:29:05,194
Speaker 3: it signs on sounds on YouTube. Let's see a lot

607
00:29:05,194 --> 00:29:07,714
Speaker 3: of questions about next year. I don't like talking about

608
00:29:07,794 --> 00:29:12,754
Speaker 3: next year yet, Gary, next year draft stuff like draft

609
00:29:12,874 --> 00:29:15,474
Speaker 3: and free agents and not ready for that.

610
00:29:15,554 --> 00:29:18,433
Speaker 5: Yeah, let's talk about we have months to do those shows.

611
00:29:18,994 --> 00:29:23,194
Speaker 3: Let's see who's this? This is Gary? Where's Gary from?

612
00:29:23,714 --> 00:29:26,274
Speaker 3: Oh it's a long email, Indiana. He's in Dublin.

613
00:29:26,474 --> 00:29:28,874
Speaker 5: Oh not even close.

614
00:29:29,074 --> 00:29:34,514
Speaker 3: Yeah, been listening since before Super Bowl forty nine. It's

615
00:29:34,554 --> 00:29:36,393
Speaker 3: been playing on my mind a few weeks now. But

616
00:29:36,514 --> 00:29:38,794
Speaker 3: Christian beat me to the punch on Tuesday Show. We

617
00:29:38,794 --> 00:29:42,394
Speaker 3: were apparently always a run first team this season. I'm

618
00:29:42,394 --> 00:29:44,514
Speaker 3: guessing to give Drake a chance to get ready, but

619
00:29:44,554 --> 00:29:47,994
Speaker 3: we did nothing to improve that position. We extended Remandre

620
00:29:48,274 --> 00:29:50,874
Speaker 3: off the back of a down year. But other than that,

621
00:29:50,914 --> 00:29:54,354
Speaker 3: we got bodies to fill. We got bodies to fill spots.

622
00:29:55,194 --> 00:29:58,314
Speaker 3: As you discussed, we had the cap space. While Paul

623
00:29:58,394 --> 00:30:00,794
Speaker 3: and Evan don't like signing running backs and free agency

624
00:30:00,954 --> 00:30:04,314
Speaker 3: and I get it, but why not even try to

625
00:30:04,354 --> 00:30:06,354
Speaker 3: go for one of the available Tier one guys like

626
00:30:06,394 --> 00:30:08,953
Speaker 3: mixing a Barkley not saying we would have got him,

627
00:30:08,994 --> 00:30:12,714
Speaker 3: but at least try. And then he goes about how

628
00:30:13,114 --> 00:30:16,474
Speaker 3: Bill never valued the elite running back, but you know

629
00:30:16,514 --> 00:30:16,913
Speaker 3: and all that.

630
00:30:16,994 --> 00:30:20,514
Speaker 5: But do you think that the elite running back was

631
00:30:20,554 --> 00:30:24,034
Speaker 5: a necessity when they re signed Stevenson? Do you think

632
00:30:24,074 --> 00:30:28,794
Speaker 5: that would have been smart? I don't either. Yeah, now

633
00:30:28,834 --> 00:30:29,874
Speaker 5: we can we can hear you.

634
00:30:30,554 --> 00:30:34,994
Speaker 3: Okay, So it was Josh on YouTube too.

635
00:30:35,434 --> 00:30:38,234
Speaker 5: Yeah, there was some talk about the YouTube feeds sounded

636
00:30:38,234 --> 00:30:40,394
Speaker 5: a little bit muffled, like we were underwater.

637
00:30:40,474 --> 00:30:42,754
Speaker 3: Maybe you can email Chris or something.

638
00:30:43,354 --> 00:30:46,114
Speaker 5: I don't know, but you know, the running back thing,

639
00:30:46,194 --> 00:30:48,514
Speaker 5: I totally get that. I was a little surprised they

640
00:30:48,554 --> 00:30:50,514
Speaker 5: didn't add some depth, and I thought there were some

641
00:30:50,594 --> 00:30:53,354
Speaker 5: depth pieces that they could have signed even as the

642
00:30:53,394 --> 00:30:56,754
Speaker 5: summer came around. But I would not have been interested

643
00:30:56,754 --> 00:30:59,594
Speaker 5: in signing a frontline guy like like Joe Mixon or

644
00:30:59,714 --> 00:31:05,354
Speaker 5: Josh Jacobs or Saquon Barkley because you re signed Ramandre Stevenson. Now,

645
00:31:05,394 --> 00:31:09,074
Speaker 5: if you had lost him, then you want somebody talented

646
00:31:09,834 --> 00:31:13,633
Speaker 5: to base the running game on. But like they wanted

647
00:31:13,674 --> 00:31:15,794
Speaker 5: to be a run first team. I agree with the emailer, Right,

648
00:31:17,034 --> 00:31:18,474
Speaker 5: do you feel like they haven't been able to be

649
00:31:18,514 --> 00:31:21,154
Speaker 5: a run first team because of the lack of depth

650
00:31:21,234 --> 00:31:22,034
Speaker 5: at running back.

651
00:31:22,034 --> 00:31:23,274
Speaker 3: Or because of the line.

652
00:31:23,514 --> 00:31:27,074
Speaker 5: Well, but they've been I mean until May started playing,

653
00:31:27,474 --> 00:31:30,474
Speaker 5: they've been a run first team. Since May has played,

654
00:31:31,274 --> 00:31:33,913
Speaker 5: the running production is dropped off, but the passing production

655
00:31:33,994 --> 00:31:38,194
Speaker 5: has increased, right, so that I don't necessarily look at

656
00:31:38,314 --> 00:31:41,154
Speaker 5: the depth chart at running back being a problem. Now.

657
00:31:41,194 --> 00:31:43,474
Speaker 5: I agree that they were a little thin there, and

658
00:31:43,554 --> 00:31:45,674
Speaker 5: I thought that they would, you know, like last year

659
00:31:45,674 --> 00:31:50,034
Speaker 5: they signed Ezekiel Elliott somebody like that they could have signed.

660
00:31:50,114 --> 00:31:52,794
Speaker 3: Don't you think even when the end it started, the

661
00:31:52,914 --> 00:31:54,754
Speaker 3: run game started to be less effective.

662
00:31:54,794 --> 00:31:57,113
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I think the run games teams were gearing up.

663
00:31:57,154 --> 00:32:01,393
Speaker 5: The run game production was almost entirely dude who incredible

664
00:32:01,474 --> 00:32:04,594
Speaker 5: work from Stevenson and Gibson breaking tackles in the backfield

665
00:32:04,594 --> 00:32:08,274
Speaker 5: every game. But even then after a while, after a while,

666
00:32:08,314 --> 00:32:09,354
Speaker 5: you can't do that any right.

667
00:32:09,794 --> 00:32:13,274
Speaker 3: So if you knew now what you if you know,

668
00:32:13,674 --> 00:32:16,474
Speaker 3: if you knew then what you know now would like

669
00:32:16,514 --> 00:32:19,873
Speaker 3: a mix and have been good if you knew it

670
00:32:19,954 --> 00:32:20,674
Speaker 3: was gonna.

671
00:32:20,514 --> 00:32:22,034
Speaker 5: No, I don't think it would have been a smart

672
00:32:22,114 --> 00:32:23,714
Speaker 5: use of resources.

673
00:32:23,794 --> 00:32:23,954
Speaker 3: All.

674
00:32:24,434 --> 00:32:28,034
Speaker 5: Now, if you said mixing instead of Stevenson, you can

675
00:32:28,114 --> 00:32:30,194
Speaker 5: give me an argument for that, I would have taken Stevenson.

676
00:32:30,234 --> 00:32:33,153
Speaker 5: I think he's younger, but you can make an argument

677
00:32:33,194 --> 00:32:35,153
Speaker 5: for one over the other. I don't understand why you

678
00:32:35,154 --> 00:32:37,714
Speaker 5: would want to invest big money into two running backs,

679
00:32:38,314 --> 00:32:41,354
Speaker 5: or any money really into two running backs, you know.

680
00:32:42,234 --> 00:32:45,354
Speaker 3: Micah from South Dakota writes in Adam Vinteri is the

681
00:32:45,434 --> 00:32:48,714
Speaker 3: league's all time leading scorer, has two walk off game

682
00:32:48,714 --> 00:32:52,074
Speaker 3: winning kicks, and Super bowls. Off those two facts alone,

683
00:32:52,474 --> 00:32:54,314
Speaker 3: he should be a first ballot Hall of Famer, and

684
00:32:54,354 --> 00:32:58,953
Speaker 3: I could argue unanimously. Also, is this the year Rodney

685
00:32:58,954 --> 00:33:02,234
Speaker 3: Harrison finally gets in? I hope so dude deserves it.

686
00:33:02,354 --> 00:33:05,554
Speaker 3: My current Patriot question, do you guys think with Cole

687
00:33:05,634 --> 00:33:08,674
Speaker 3: Strange being activated they will play him at center? I'd

688
00:33:08,674 --> 00:33:10,314
Speaker 3: love to see him try, and it gives him a

689
00:33:10,394 --> 00:33:13,514
Speaker 3: chance to actually get a good second contract with the

690
00:33:13,554 --> 00:33:16,434
Speaker 3: team since David Andrews will likely retire by the time

691
00:33:16,434 --> 00:33:19,434
Speaker 3: we need to play Strange. Nothing against Ben Brown. He's

692
00:33:19,434 --> 00:33:21,634
Speaker 3: been a good soldier, but he can't do it at

693
00:33:21,634 --> 00:33:22,554
Speaker 3: an NFL level.

694
00:33:23,674 --> 00:33:28,354
Speaker 5: Yeah, Just to be to be clear, Cole Strange has

695
00:33:28,394 --> 00:33:29,314
Speaker 5: not been activated.

696
00:33:30,074 --> 00:33:31,314
Speaker 8: He was.

697
00:33:31,474 --> 00:33:34,153
Speaker 5: He's going to return to practice today, but he has

698
00:33:34,194 --> 00:33:38,114
Speaker 5: not been activated yet, And yes, right along the lines

699
00:33:38,154 --> 00:33:41,154
Speaker 5: of what the email is talking about, I do think

700
00:33:41,194 --> 00:33:43,514
Speaker 5: they have plans to check and see if he has

701
00:33:43,554 --> 00:33:47,554
Speaker 5: the versatility to play center. And David Andrews has already

702
00:33:47,594 --> 00:33:50,473
Speaker 5: been working with him, trying to help along with that

703
00:33:50,554 --> 00:33:52,554
Speaker 5: kind of a transition. So I think that is in

704
00:33:52,594 --> 00:33:55,473
Speaker 5: the cards and we'll see if it works. You know,

705
00:33:55,554 --> 00:33:57,354
Speaker 5: it's like you said, Fred, you know some guys just

706
00:33:57,394 --> 00:34:00,434
Speaker 5: can't do you know, can't do it. Yep, and who

707
00:34:00,434 --> 00:34:01,954
Speaker 5: knows if Cole Strange can.

708
00:34:03,114 --> 00:34:06,714
Speaker 3: Anthony writes in the call mail made to accept the

709
00:34:06,754 --> 00:34:09,913
Speaker 3: penalty yards and not make the rams punt. Is it

710
00:34:09,994 --> 00:34:12,794
Speaker 3: possible that he was worried taking the five yard penalty

711
00:34:12,794 --> 00:34:16,154
Speaker 3: creating another fourth down may have given McVeigh the opportunity

712
00:34:16,234 --> 00:34:18,393
Speaker 3: to decide to try to kick the field goal and

713
00:34:18,474 --> 00:34:19,274
Speaker 3: seal the game.

714
00:34:20,594 --> 00:34:22,594
Speaker 5: So he didn't kick the field goal at the distance

715
00:34:22,674 --> 00:34:27,034
Speaker 5: it was but five yards further back. Yeah, does that

716
00:34:27,074 --> 00:34:27,754
Speaker 5: make sense to him?

717
00:34:27,754 --> 00:34:32,714
Speaker 3: It doesn't. Yeah, they were on the thirty five. Taking

718
00:34:32,754 --> 00:34:35,033
Speaker 3: the penalty would push them back to the forty, so

719
00:34:35,194 --> 00:34:38,594
Speaker 3: roughly a fifty eight yard field goal to end the game. Basically,

720
00:34:39,074 --> 00:34:41,754
Speaker 3: as long as this season is fifty five, I was

721
00:34:41,794 --> 00:34:43,873
Speaker 3: actually surprised at didn't kicked to try to seal the

722
00:34:43,913 --> 00:34:45,153
Speaker 3: win when they punted.

723
00:34:45,274 --> 00:34:47,913
Speaker 5: Right, So he thought fifty three was too little long.

724
00:34:48,114 --> 00:34:50,754
Speaker 5: But I would have kicked fifty eight right. Yeah, now

725
00:34:50,873 --> 00:34:54,473
Speaker 5: that doesn't make sense. I think that had the game

726
00:34:54,554 --> 00:34:56,754
Speaker 5: been tied, I think he probably would have kicked the

727
00:34:56,794 --> 00:35:00,553
Speaker 5: fifty three yard field goal, but they didn't need it. Yeah,

728
00:35:00,754 --> 00:35:03,153
Speaker 5: they thought it was more important to pin them back,

729
00:35:03,834 --> 00:35:07,113
Speaker 5: and ultimately they were right because they really didn't even

730
00:35:07,114 --> 00:35:08,554
Speaker 5: come close to giving up that touchdown.

731
00:35:08,634 --> 00:35:11,633
Speaker 3: Yep, so the speakers up again, eight five to five,

732
00:35:11,674 --> 00:35:13,993
Speaker 3: pats five hundred if you want to call on the

733
00:35:14,034 --> 00:35:19,513
Speaker 3: TPX hotline. Alex writes in e'san Lowell he said yesterday,

734
00:35:19,674 --> 00:35:21,594
Speaker 3: but Dart, your guy.

735
00:35:21,953 --> 00:35:24,073
Speaker 5: I did not hear any of Greg yesterday, so this

736
00:35:24,114 --> 00:35:24,794
Speaker 5: is all new to me.

737
00:35:25,234 --> 00:35:27,234
Speaker 3: He made a point that AVP has been a great

738
00:35:27,314 --> 00:35:30,154
Speaker 3: quarterback coach so far to May, which I agree with.

739
00:35:30,274 --> 00:35:32,873
Speaker 3: I think Drake has steadily improved week by week and

740
00:35:32,913 --> 00:35:35,553
Speaker 3: has looked much better from when he first got in

741
00:35:35,674 --> 00:35:39,034
Speaker 3: during mop up time against the Jets. However, but Dard

742
00:35:39,074 --> 00:35:43,033
Speaker 3: also briefly brought up how if Cliff Kingsbury was coaching May,

743
00:35:43,354 --> 00:35:45,914
Speaker 3: that Drake would have started week one and looked similar

744
00:35:45,953 --> 00:35:49,114
Speaker 3: to Jaden Daniels, Paul, since you love to do this

745
00:35:49,194 --> 00:35:51,834
Speaker 3: for argument's sake, which route of coaching do you think

746
00:35:52,154 --> 00:35:55,913
Speaker 3: is better last for lasting development for quarterback? Whid may

747
00:35:56,194 --> 00:35:59,633
Speaker 3: look worlds better if he had Kingsbury from day one.

748
00:36:00,514 --> 00:36:03,073
Speaker 5: I mean, I really don't have any idea. I mean,

749
00:36:03,074 --> 00:36:06,794
Speaker 5: I'm not going to try to pretend. Kingsbury has been

750
00:36:06,794 --> 00:36:12,234
Speaker 5: a guy who has generally at the starts of seasons

751
00:36:12,314 --> 00:36:16,594
Speaker 5: had a lot of success and then generally teams have

752
00:36:16,754 --> 00:36:19,554
Speaker 5: kind of figured it out. And people are already starting

753
00:36:19,554 --> 00:36:23,074
Speaker 5: to wonder if that's starting to happen in Washington. You know,

754
00:36:23,114 --> 00:36:24,913
Speaker 5: they've been a little bit more average. You know, they

755
00:36:24,953 --> 00:36:27,553
Speaker 5: had that even the game that they had the Hail Mary,

756
00:36:27,674 --> 00:36:30,873
Speaker 5: you know, they didn't score very much, right, they struggled

757
00:36:30,913 --> 00:36:33,754
Speaker 5: in the red zone that day. Then they had the

758
00:36:33,834 --> 00:36:36,513
Speaker 5: game that they I think they've lost back to back

759
00:36:36,554 --> 00:36:40,114
Speaker 5: games now. They lost the game to Pittsburgh where they

760
00:36:40,114 --> 00:36:42,993
Speaker 5: were kind of plotting offensively and they were just flat

761
00:36:43,034 --> 00:36:45,674
Speaker 5: out bad offensively in the game against the Eagles on

762
00:36:45,754 --> 00:36:48,314
Speaker 5: the Thursday night. Part of that is road Thursday night

763
00:36:48,354 --> 00:36:50,953
Speaker 5: thing too. Let's see what happens the rest of the way.

764
00:36:50,953 --> 00:36:54,594
Speaker 5: With Kingsbury, I think that he's good. I think he

765
00:36:54,714 --> 00:36:58,913
Speaker 5: has like sort of the New Age college type schemes

766
00:36:58,953 --> 00:37:01,154
Speaker 5: that he likes to throw out there. I'm not you know,

767
00:37:01,234 --> 00:37:03,873
Speaker 5: Evan will obviously be able to speak to greater detail

768
00:37:03,873 --> 00:37:06,553
Speaker 5: than I would on that, but I do think his

769
00:37:06,674 --> 00:37:11,913
Speaker 5: reputation in Arizona was really fast starts offensively, they kind

770
00:37:11,913 --> 00:37:14,234
Speaker 5: of figure him out and then it's not as good. Yeah,

771
00:37:14,274 --> 00:37:15,954
Speaker 5: a lot of like what we talk about with Miami,

772
00:37:16,554 --> 00:37:19,154
Speaker 5: with McDaniel, you know, they always seem to get off

773
00:37:19,154 --> 00:37:22,194
Speaker 5: to a really good start offensively. And you know, I

774
00:37:22,234 --> 00:37:25,794
Speaker 5: think people blame the weather more so from Miami. They

775
00:37:25,794 --> 00:37:26,834
Speaker 5: can't play in bad weather.

776
00:37:26,953 --> 00:37:30,754
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, we're talking about how good would

777
00:37:30,834 --> 00:37:34,034
Speaker 3: Drake may be if Klin Kingsbury had him from week

778
00:37:34,074 --> 00:37:35,754
Speaker 3: one and he was starting for a week one. How

779
00:37:35,834 --> 00:37:38,074
Speaker 3: much better would AVP have had him if he had

780
00:37:38,114 --> 00:37:41,354
Speaker 3: a week to start right, you know, like give a

781
00:37:41,473 --> 00:37:47,754
Speaker 3: VP a chance like he's doing fall Yeah, say uh,

782
00:37:47,873 --> 00:37:51,314
Speaker 3: Jeff in Canada though, although it's unfair to make this

783
00:37:51,354 --> 00:37:54,153
Speaker 3: assumption already, but if Poke and Baker were to stay

784
00:37:54,154 --> 00:37:56,913
Speaker 3: on the track that they're on, they'll be busts that

785
00:37:56,953 --> 00:37:59,473
Speaker 3: would solidify that the new regime picked up where the

786
00:37:59,514 --> 00:38:02,754
Speaker 3: previous regime left off with a complete blind spot to

787
00:38:02,834 --> 00:38:05,953
Speaker 3: drafting and signing wide receivers. It seems they can only

788
00:38:05,994 --> 00:38:09,154
Speaker 3: do smaller chain mover guys, and even those are hit

789
00:38:09,234 --> 00:38:12,033
Speaker 3: and miss. What can be done about this? Can the

790
00:38:12,154 --> 00:38:15,274
Speaker 3: organization go out and hire a wide receiver guru who

791
00:38:15,354 --> 00:38:18,114
Speaker 3: can just tell them who to draft? It doesn't seem

792
00:38:18,433 --> 00:38:21,433
Speaker 3: that hard, but it is for the Patriots.

793
00:38:23,473 --> 00:38:26,834
Speaker 5: I mean, I can't argue with the resultso there. I

794
00:38:26,913 --> 00:38:31,794
Speaker 5: just don't think it's because they I don't. I don't

795
00:38:31,794 --> 00:38:36,073
Speaker 5: think it's because Elliott Wolf should be blamed for all

796
00:38:36,114 --> 00:38:39,314
Speaker 5: of the other failures. Like I don't think Elliott Wolf

797
00:38:39,473 --> 00:38:43,034
Speaker 5: had anything to do with Chad Jackson or Aaron Dobson.

798
00:38:44,034 --> 00:38:45,433
Speaker 5: I don't think he really had a whole lot to

799
00:38:45,433 --> 00:38:50,633
Speaker 5: do with Taekwan Thornton. You know. But obviously they picked

800
00:38:50,634 --> 00:38:52,834
Speaker 5: Polk and Baker, and right now neither one of them

801
00:38:52,873 --> 00:38:54,994
Speaker 5: looks like.

802
00:38:53,953 --> 00:38:58,074
Speaker 3: I don't include Baker. In Baker, it's.

803
00:38:57,873 --> 00:38:59,634
Speaker 5: A sixth round pick, right fourth?

804
00:38:59,834 --> 00:39:03,994
Speaker 3: Oh, he was fourth, whom I think Belle was six, seventh, seventh?

805
00:39:04,194 --> 00:39:07,314
Speaker 3: Who was the sixth for this year?

806
00:39:07,433 --> 00:39:10,033
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know maybe it was Belle. Maybe he

807
00:39:10,114 --> 00:39:12,794
Speaker 5: was a sixth round pick. I don't know. But though

808
00:39:13,114 --> 00:39:16,513
Speaker 5: you know Douglas and Booty with sixth round picks last

809
00:39:16,554 --> 00:39:20,634
Speaker 5: year as receivers, and I said this, I know in

810
00:39:21,034 --> 00:39:24,314
Speaker 5: previous shows, like I do think part of the problem

811
00:39:24,393 --> 00:39:27,354
Speaker 5: with perception of those guys as that it's where you

812
00:39:27,393 --> 00:39:27,714
Speaker 5: get to.

813
00:39:27,794 --> 00:39:30,274
Speaker 3: You know, like, sure, well it should. I mean, if

814
00:39:30,274 --> 00:39:32,634
Speaker 3: you're going to use a second round pick on anybody,

815
00:39:32,674 --> 00:39:33,754
Speaker 3: he should be pretty.

816
00:39:33,473 --> 00:39:35,593
Speaker 5: If Paishan Booty was the second round pick, people would

817
00:39:35,594 --> 00:39:37,953
Speaker 5: think he was a bust. But right now people are

818
00:39:37,994 --> 00:39:39,953
Speaker 5: excited about him. He's a sixth round pick who kind

819
00:39:39,953 --> 00:39:42,513
Speaker 5: of looked like he resurrected his career. He's made some

820
00:39:42,594 --> 00:39:46,754
Speaker 5: plays and people are excited. Okay if he was okay,

821
00:39:46,994 --> 00:39:47,794
Speaker 5: it's a cornerback.

822
00:39:47,873 --> 00:39:50,154
Speaker 3: Yeah, so.

823
00:39:51,754 --> 00:39:55,354
Speaker 5: I there's no call. I'm not trying to make excuses

824
00:39:55,393 --> 00:39:57,154
Speaker 5: for Jalen Polk. He hasn't he hasn't played.

825
00:39:57,234 --> 00:39:59,714
Speaker 3: It's not about the player, it's about the evaluation.

826
00:39:59,913 --> 00:40:03,073
Speaker 5: And I think that that clouds it a little bit, like, well,

827
00:40:03,074 --> 00:40:05,593
Speaker 5: look at how good Douglas and Baker and Booty are,

828
00:40:05,994 --> 00:40:08,073
Speaker 5: well are they or are they just playing really well

829
00:40:08,074 --> 00:40:09,074
Speaker 5: for six round picks.

830
00:40:10,154 --> 00:40:12,354
Speaker 3: I think, I think Douglas is playing pretty well.

831
00:40:13,554 --> 00:40:14,993
Speaker 5: But if he was a second round pick, would you

832
00:40:15,034 --> 00:40:16,594
Speaker 5: say the same thing. I wouldn't.

833
00:40:17,154 --> 00:40:18,354
Speaker 3: I'd expect a little bit more.

834
00:40:18,473 --> 00:40:21,673
Speaker 5: I'd spend a lot more out of them. Yeah, yeah,

835
00:40:21,794 --> 00:40:25,794
Speaker 5: that's that's like all My point is, Like, I'm not

836
00:40:25,834 --> 00:40:26,754
Speaker 5: saying that Polk.

837
00:40:26,594 --> 00:40:30,393
Speaker 3: Would be Polk isn't playing well for a six round pick.

838
00:40:30,794 --> 00:40:31,674
Speaker 3: That's the problem.

839
00:40:31,634 --> 00:40:34,114
Speaker 5: I think if you got two touchdowns out of your

840
00:40:34,194 --> 00:40:36,513
Speaker 5: rookie sixth round pick in spot duty, I think you'd

841
00:40:36,514 --> 00:40:40,674
Speaker 5: be like something the mis not what I'm just saying.

842
00:40:40,714 --> 00:40:42,953
Speaker 5: Maybe maybe people would look at it a little bit

843
00:40:42,994 --> 00:40:45,794
Speaker 5: differently because they wouldn't have the expectations they would be

844
00:40:45,994 --> 00:40:47,993
Speaker 5: part of that. That that that I think is the

845
00:40:48,354 --> 00:40:51,994
Speaker 5: unfair expectations a little bit is us the media. Sure,

846
00:40:52,194 --> 00:40:54,754
Speaker 5: the media put this guy on a level based on

847
00:40:54,834 --> 00:40:57,754
Speaker 5: training camp that I thought was absurd.

848
00:40:57,953 --> 00:40:59,594
Speaker 3: Well, also based on his production it.

849
00:40:59,794 --> 00:41:02,834
Speaker 5: You know in Washington, he was a third receiver in Washington,

850
00:41:02,834 --> 00:41:05,754
Speaker 5: but he had numbers. Yeah, in an offense that threw

851
00:41:05,794 --> 00:41:09,073
Speaker 5: the ball every play, Okay, but he caught it, you know. Yeah,

852
00:41:09,114 --> 00:41:11,794
Speaker 5: he was never the best. Like if you looked at

853
00:41:11,873 --> 00:41:14,794
Speaker 5: him in college, you you got fooled by that because

854
00:41:15,034 --> 00:41:17,594
Speaker 5: it was a doomsday and he only even got a

855
00:41:17,714 --> 00:41:19,073
Speaker 5: role because McMillan got.

856
00:41:18,994 --> 00:41:20,913
Speaker 3: Hurt, right, And when he got hurt, he came in

857
00:41:20,953 --> 00:41:21,393
Speaker 3: and he he.

858
00:41:22,994 --> 00:41:25,154
Speaker 5: Was He was fine as fine can be.

859
00:41:25,274 --> 00:41:28,473
Speaker 3: He came in with good, good reputation for being a

860
00:41:28,514 --> 00:41:29,153
Speaker 3: hands guy.

861
00:41:29,433 --> 00:41:31,714
Speaker 5: Yep, you know, And that's what I saw in the summer. Yeah,

862
00:41:31,834 --> 00:41:34,314
Speaker 5: I didn't see an elite guy. The way people were

863
00:41:34,354 --> 00:41:35,113
Speaker 5: talking about him.

864
00:41:35,194 --> 00:41:36,953
Speaker 3: Well, he didn't have a chance. I don't. I know.

865
00:41:37,194 --> 00:41:39,154
Speaker 5: In the summer people were talking about him. This is

866
00:41:39,234 --> 00:41:41,354
Speaker 5: no this guy is going to hit the ground run.

867
00:41:41,554 --> 00:41:42,034
Speaker 5: I agree.

868
00:41:42,154 --> 00:41:44,834
Speaker 3: He didn't do amazing things in the summer. I agree,

869
00:41:45,114 --> 00:41:47,794
Speaker 3: but he also wasn't making the mistakes that he's making now.

870
00:41:47,873 --> 00:41:52,194
Speaker 3: Like something's happened. It's the bill Blast disease. He's wearing bad.

871
00:41:52,074 --> 00:41:55,474
Speaker 5: Clothes regular season. So he's playing against NFL players.

872
00:41:55,514 --> 00:41:58,673
Speaker 3: Now, well maybe that could be it, but I mean

873
00:41:58,754 --> 00:42:01,194
Speaker 3: playing against regularly, that doesn't mean you have to go

874
00:42:01,234 --> 00:42:03,513
Speaker 3: off side. It doesn't mean you have to.

875
00:42:03,393 --> 00:42:07,914
Speaker 5: Can we separate, like fall start penalty from him ten catches?

876
00:42:07,994 --> 00:42:11,034
Speaker 3: I'm not going to get that because that's limiting his time.

877
00:42:11,154 --> 00:42:15,433
Speaker 5: I feeling much more well he'd have more reps O

878
00:42:15,634 --> 00:42:18,913
Speaker 5: day thirty six snaps he got the other day. He

879
00:42:18,953 --> 00:42:21,234
Speaker 5: didn't get benched because he got a fall start penalty.

880
00:42:21,433 --> 00:42:23,993
Speaker 5: I'm not I'm not excusing the false start, but I'm

881
00:42:24,074 --> 00:42:27,754
Speaker 5: much more concerned about target. That's my That's what I'm

882
00:42:27,754 --> 00:42:30,193
Speaker 5: concerned with, because they don't trust because she doesn't get open.

883
00:42:31,554 --> 00:42:36,634
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't, I don't know. I No, we're fighting.

884
00:42:36,834 --> 00:42:39,394
Speaker 5: No, we're not fighting about no.

885
00:42:40,913 --> 00:42:44,873
Speaker 3: Is here. Look who's back from the locker room.

886
00:42:44,953 --> 00:42:47,554
Speaker 9: What was the mood where the player is friendly to that?

887
00:42:47,714 --> 00:42:51,314
Speaker 3: None of them look like demk Henry, Hey, Mike, What

888
00:42:51,354 --> 00:42:55,234
Speaker 3: was it like in the locker room?

889
00:42:56,514 --> 00:42:58,593
Speaker 1: What was it like in the.

890
00:43:00,034 --> 00:43:02,714
Speaker 3: You know what I think we should have along with

891
00:43:02,754 --> 00:43:06,073
Speaker 3: the song is while the songs playing, animation of Mike

892
00:43:06,154 --> 00:43:10,794
Speaker 3: in the locker room, just kind of Sasha, you know,

893
00:43:10,873 --> 00:43:13,394
Speaker 3: with the recorder recorder out.

894
00:43:13,354 --> 00:43:16,754
Speaker 4: Walking like little animation.

895
00:43:17,194 --> 00:43:18,513
Speaker 3: You know, that's great love.

896
00:43:18,674 --> 00:43:19,594
Speaker 4: I thought you were saying.

897
00:43:19,354 --> 00:43:21,393
Speaker 3: Something that would match the flow of the song.

898
00:43:21,754 --> 00:43:22,113
Speaker 10: Just nice.

899
00:43:22,154 --> 00:43:24,794
Speaker 4: I get a lot of emails on Twitter, emails on Twitter,

900
00:43:25,354 --> 00:43:28,433
Speaker 4: you know whatever, uh saying people like why am I

901
00:43:28,433 --> 00:43:29,794
Speaker 4: walking around my house singing that side?

902
00:43:29,873 --> 00:43:31,274
Speaker 5: So it's a good song.

903
00:43:31,393 --> 00:43:33,393
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe Jill needs to like repurpose it and put

904
00:43:33,393 --> 00:43:35,474
Speaker 4: it out as like not about me single, a single

905
00:43:35,514 --> 00:43:37,114
Speaker 4: as a song, you know, to change the words.

906
00:43:37,114 --> 00:43:39,714
Speaker 5: Does that about Evan's back from practice can be the

907
00:43:39,714 --> 00:43:41,433
Speaker 5: B side? No?

908
00:43:41,594 --> 00:43:46,873
Speaker 3: Oh no, yeah.

909
00:43:46,234 --> 00:43:48,754
Speaker 5: Do you see that, Deuce? I mean, Matt, I suggested

910
00:43:48,794 --> 00:43:50,513
Speaker 5: to Deuce that we put Evan on the B side.

911
00:43:50,514 --> 00:43:53,834
Speaker 5: He gave me the stink face, gave me to get

912
00:43:53,873 --> 00:43:54,274
Speaker 5: the gas.

913
00:43:54,714 --> 00:43:55,954
Speaker 1: You think dayside material.

914
00:43:56,314 --> 00:43:58,953
Speaker 5: This is this is my show.

915
00:43:59,234 --> 00:44:03,754
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's kind of quiet today. I'm not gonna lie

916
00:44:03,794 --> 00:44:05,314
Speaker 4: to you. I got kind of a bad vibe about

917
00:44:05,314 --> 00:44:06,953
Speaker 4: this game this week. I mean, I don't want to.

918
00:44:07,234 --> 00:44:08,873
Speaker 4: I was already in that place before.

919
00:44:08,594 --> 00:44:10,194
Speaker 5: We went in. You had mentioned it on the way

920
00:44:10,634 --> 00:44:11,234
Speaker 5: got over there.

921
00:44:11,873 --> 00:44:13,314
Speaker 4: But now it's kind of quiet in the locker room,

922
00:44:13,314 --> 00:44:15,354
Speaker 4: even like you already said, it's a low key today.

923
00:44:15,794 --> 00:44:18,673
Speaker 4: But we did get a cavalcade of guys coming through

924
00:44:18,714 --> 00:44:20,593
Speaker 4: us as we are on on Wednesdays now, so it's

925
00:44:20,674 --> 00:44:23,794
Speaker 4: usually four or five guys, you know, July to I

926
00:44:24,393 --> 00:44:26,354
Speaker 4: it seems so, I don't know, maybe it's because Dan

927
00:44:26,393 --> 00:44:27,834
Speaker 4: Roach is leading all these things off with like you

928
00:44:27,873 --> 00:44:30,473
Speaker 4: guys haven't won Miami in like five years. Why you know,

929
00:44:30,554 --> 00:44:33,274
Speaker 4: so I think, you know, Tony Gibson's like, I don't know.

930
00:44:33,314 --> 00:44:35,714
Speaker 4: I wasn't here, man, you know, so I don't know

931
00:44:35,714 --> 00:44:37,834
Speaker 4: if it was some of the tenor of the questions.

932
00:44:37,873 --> 00:44:41,234
Speaker 3: I just I get so bored with the TV low

933
00:44:41,274 --> 00:44:44,354
Speaker 3: hanging fruit, you know, sound bites.

934
00:44:44,433 --> 00:44:48,714
Speaker 5: So you know, now I have the reputation he's but

935
00:44:48,953 --> 00:44:52,314
Speaker 5: just so critical me be a little bit more creative, and.

936
00:44:53,074 --> 00:44:56,754
Speaker 4: You know, anyway, anyway, I know, well the players weren't

937
00:44:56,754 --> 00:44:59,754
Speaker 4: having it either, to be honest. So but you know,

938
00:44:59,873 --> 00:45:02,314
Speaker 4: just a lot of questions about Tua and the offense.

939
00:45:02,473 --> 00:45:04,634
Speaker 4: And I thought the quote of the day though, was

940
00:45:04,754 --> 00:45:06,314
Speaker 4: Jonathan Jones was a good one.

941
00:45:06,433 --> 00:45:06,553
Speaker 11: Uh.

942
00:45:07,154 --> 00:45:09,553
Speaker 4: Clinice's own Taylor Kyle's asked him, you know, do you

943
00:45:09,554 --> 00:45:12,314
Speaker 4: feel a little level of comfortability now that you face

944
00:45:12,393 --> 00:45:14,314
Speaker 4: these guys a couple of times in John Joe's cose,

945
00:45:14,554 --> 00:45:16,194
Speaker 4: do you ever get comfortable with a bullet coming at

946
00:45:16,234 --> 00:45:19,513
Speaker 4: you with a little extreme Uh? Later he like was like, well,

947
00:45:19,554 --> 00:45:21,113
Speaker 4: bull of train or you know, you could walk to back.

948
00:45:21,393 --> 00:45:22,674
Speaker 4: But I thought it was a good, you know, a

949
00:45:22,674 --> 00:45:23,674
Speaker 4: good quote overall.

950
00:45:23,794 --> 00:45:25,913
Speaker 5: Just it's a great quote, I understand, and his he

951
00:45:26,034 --> 00:45:30,194
Speaker 5: probably immediately bullets was taken back with the PC police,

952
00:45:30,354 --> 00:45:30,674
Speaker 5: but you.

953
00:45:30,634 --> 00:45:32,754
Speaker 4: Get it with Tyreek Hill because he is coming at

954
00:45:32,794 --> 00:45:33,754
Speaker 4: you like a bullet.

955
00:45:33,794 --> 00:45:37,794
Speaker 5: And like, I'm pretty sure that Gonzo and Jonathan Jones

956
00:45:37,834 --> 00:45:40,274
Speaker 5: do not ever feel comfortable when those when they're trying

957
00:45:40,314 --> 00:45:40,834
Speaker 5: to face those.

958
00:45:41,034 --> 00:45:42,593
Speaker 4: And he talked about, you know, just the late motion

959
00:45:42,714 --> 00:45:45,154
Speaker 4: right at the snap where they're already at full speed.

960
00:45:45,154 --> 00:45:47,114
Speaker 4: But you know, everything you'd expect to hear about this

961
00:45:47,194 --> 00:45:49,794
Speaker 4: Miami offensive of you know, it's a finely tuned machine.

962
00:45:49,794 --> 00:45:52,153
Speaker 4: It's you know, key On White talking about how hard

963
00:45:52,194 --> 00:45:54,914
Speaker 4: it is to get to it quick enough to affect him.

964
00:45:55,234 --> 00:45:57,873
Speaker 4: Jonathan Jones talked a little bit about being physical with

965
00:45:57,913 --> 00:46:00,194
Speaker 4: the guys, trying to disrupt the timing, trying to get

966
00:46:00,194 --> 00:46:03,393
Speaker 4: in passing lanes. But just in their answers, you can

967
00:46:03,433 --> 00:46:05,553
Speaker 4: hear how difficult it is to tell.

968
00:46:05,913 --> 00:46:11,354
Speaker 3: So if you're McDaniel and you scouted last week's game

969
00:46:11,473 --> 00:46:14,433
Speaker 3: and you saw the problems that the Patriots had with

970
00:46:14,514 --> 00:46:16,993
Speaker 3: the Rams motion, do you say, Okay, we're going to

971
00:46:17,074 --> 00:46:19,634
Speaker 3: do the same thing, or oh, this week they're going

972
00:46:19,714 --> 00:46:22,114
Speaker 3: to be extra careful and they're going to have an

973
00:46:22,154 --> 00:46:24,354
Speaker 3: answer for motion, or do you just say we're just

974
00:46:24,354 --> 00:46:26,154
Speaker 3: better than that doesn't matter. They're not going to be

975
00:46:26,154 --> 00:46:27,113
Speaker 3: able to handle.

976
00:46:26,873 --> 00:46:29,314
Speaker 4: Us kind of be I think, I don't know, I mean,

977
00:46:29,514 --> 00:46:31,673
Speaker 4: I just I respect this offense. I'm sure they saw

978
00:46:31,714 --> 00:46:33,514
Speaker 4: things on tape that they want to try to attack,

979
00:46:33,554 --> 00:46:35,314
Speaker 4: but at the end of the day, to me, just

980
00:46:35,594 --> 00:46:38,114
Speaker 4: the basic Miami offense of what they do is going

981
00:46:38,154 --> 00:46:39,554
Speaker 4: to give the Patriots plenty of problems.

982
00:46:39,594 --> 00:46:41,834
Speaker 5: Yeah, and one thing, you know, sort.

983
00:46:41,674 --> 00:46:44,073
Speaker 3: Of I'm just Alex Austin though, secrets.

984
00:46:43,714 --> 00:46:46,234
Speaker 5: When you come back brought up, you know, the different

985
00:46:46,834 --> 00:46:49,114
Speaker 5: possibilities in the game plan. It did remind me of

986
00:46:49,154 --> 00:46:51,913
Speaker 5: one element of Mayo to that I didn't mention, was,

987
00:46:52,514 --> 00:46:54,234
Speaker 5: you know, he was sort of asked some follow ups

988
00:46:54,234 --> 00:46:58,594
Speaker 5: on the Rams stuff and the Cup Nakoula sort of yeah,

989
00:46:59,234 --> 00:47:02,714
Speaker 5: you know issue from last week, and that Gerrod was

990
00:47:03,834 --> 00:47:06,433
Speaker 5: a little give a little pushback to that, like, you know,

991
00:47:07,674 --> 00:47:09,354
Speaker 5: the majority, I think the way he said it was

992
00:47:09,393 --> 00:47:13,873
Speaker 5: the majority of man to man snaps. They had Gonzales

993
00:47:13,994 --> 00:47:18,073
Speaker 5: on one of them, and then basically he was saying

994
00:47:18,074 --> 00:47:19,714
Speaker 5: on zones there's not really a whole lot you can

995
00:47:19,754 --> 00:47:23,393
Speaker 5: do about it. Yeah, But so I think I think

996
00:47:23,393 --> 00:47:25,473
Speaker 5: the whole nother which has kind of been my thing,

997
00:47:25,554 --> 00:47:29,394
Speaker 5: like I don't know how we've gone a whole season

998
00:47:29,433 --> 00:47:31,834
Speaker 5: with every time the pass gets completed. It has nothing

999
00:47:31,873 --> 00:47:34,714
Speaker 5: to do with our better guys, you know. And I

1000
00:47:34,794 --> 00:47:37,873
Speaker 5: just feel like the secondary as a whole has struggled.

1001
00:47:37,913 --> 00:47:42,154
Speaker 5: But somehow none of this is attached to Jonathan Jones

1002
00:47:42,194 --> 00:47:44,554
Speaker 5: and and you know this week it was in Christian

1003
00:47:44,594 --> 00:47:48,274
Speaker 5: Gonzalez and even to a lesser extent, Marcus Jones. Like

1004
00:47:48,274 --> 00:47:51,474
Speaker 5: they're all out there, they're all giving up plays at times.

1005
00:47:51,473 --> 00:47:53,274
Speaker 5: And you could say that Gonzalez has given up the

1006
00:47:53,274 --> 00:47:56,153
Speaker 5: fewest of those three, and I would agree. I think

1007
00:47:56,194 --> 00:47:59,194
Speaker 5: Gonzalez has been the best player by far of those three.

1008
00:47:59,393 --> 00:48:02,194
Speaker 5: But I think Mayo gave a little pushback on that

1009
00:48:02,274 --> 00:48:05,234
Speaker 5: today with the heat that well, I think question Marcus

1010
00:48:05,234 --> 00:48:07,394
Speaker 5: Covington's getting. You know, let's just look.

1011
00:48:07,234 --> 00:48:10,553
Speaker 3: At the last four years, you know, with Bill and

1012
00:48:11,354 --> 00:48:14,474
Speaker 3: after losses, whatever the failing was, it's it was mostly

1013
00:48:14,514 --> 00:48:19,794
Speaker 3: the offense, obviously. And I did the media get as

1014
00:48:19,873 --> 00:48:22,194
Speaker 3: much in the weeds X and O with Bill as

1015
00:48:22,194 --> 00:48:23,993
Speaker 3: they are now with with.

1016
00:48:24,074 --> 00:48:27,433
Speaker 5: Girod Asking the questions yeah to Bill questions, No, it's

1017
00:48:27,433 --> 00:48:28,154
Speaker 5: a good question for it.

1018
00:48:28,314 --> 00:48:30,354
Speaker 4: I don't think they did a little more empowered to

1019
00:48:30,393 --> 00:48:33,873
Speaker 4: speak X and o's too, because Bill didn't Hall of

1020
00:48:33,873 --> 00:48:34,714
Speaker 4: Fame coach.

1021
00:48:34,794 --> 00:48:37,834
Speaker 3: And maybe it is what I'm saying.

1022
00:48:37,953 --> 00:48:41,794
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, No, well he doesn't have to answer it. No,

1023
00:48:42,393 --> 00:48:44,554
Speaker 5: they're going to ask him the questions that they stopped

1024
00:48:44,554 --> 00:48:47,593
Speaker 5: at Bill. They used to ask Bill those questions and

1025
00:48:47,674 --> 00:48:50,473
Speaker 5: he batted them away. Yeah, and then most of those

1026
00:48:50,514 --> 00:48:52,754
Speaker 5: people stopped doing it. Now some of the people that

1027
00:48:52,794 --> 00:48:56,354
Speaker 5: are asking questions weren't around for to ask Bill questions.

1028
00:48:56,433 --> 00:48:56,673
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1029
00:48:57,433 --> 00:48:59,674
Speaker 5: Some of these guys, some of these all twenty two

1030
00:48:59,674 --> 00:49:02,594
Speaker 5: guys are newer and didn't really ask Bill any questions.

1031
00:49:02,674 --> 00:49:04,194
Speaker 10: Yeah, Evan's got good stories about that.

1032
00:49:04,873 --> 00:49:07,513
Speaker 5: Haven't did it a few times and he said again,

1033
00:49:08,154 --> 00:49:11,834
Speaker 5: haven't said, I'm not doing that anymore. Yeah, yeah, because

1034
00:49:11,873 --> 00:49:12,594
Speaker 5: Evan was smart.

1035
00:49:12,714 --> 00:49:16,754
Speaker 3: But like you said, they feel empowered or comfortable to

1036
00:49:16,913 --> 00:49:21,633
Speaker 3: ask questions technical questions about the failings. But I don't

1037
00:49:21,674 --> 00:49:22,874
Speaker 3: think they Bill.

1038
00:49:23,194 --> 00:49:24,674
Speaker 5: I agree with you. I don't think they would ask

1039
00:49:24,873 --> 00:49:25,873
Speaker 5: that or not anymore.

1040
00:49:26,114 --> 00:49:28,594
Speaker 4: Kind of people on the beat, who are you interested

1041
00:49:28,634 --> 00:49:30,794
Speaker 4: in that side of the game and that kind of minutia,

1042
00:49:30,834 --> 00:49:33,873
Speaker 4: And some of those people put out those narratives in

1043
00:49:33,953 --> 00:49:37,154
Speaker 4: the wake of losses, and then it becomes a talking point,

1044
00:49:37,194 --> 00:49:39,074
Speaker 4: like the boundary thing, and you know, and you know,

1045
00:49:39,114 --> 00:49:40,953
Speaker 4: how like how many of these guys really know what that?

1046
00:49:41,154 --> 00:49:44,393
Speaker 5: I've said it many times, you know, and people don't

1047
00:49:44,393 --> 00:49:46,594
Speaker 5: want to hear me criticize and I don't mean it,

1048
00:49:46,594 --> 00:49:48,953
Speaker 5: but like it's just a difference. I'm not telling you

1049
00:49:48,994 --> 00:49:51,274
Speaker 5: it's right or wrong. How's that for not being critical?

1050
00:49:51,913 --> 00:49:54,993
Speaker 5: But there's a different approach. And I think there's more

1051
00:49:55,034 --> 00:49:58,433
Speaker 5: and more people now that come into the beats on

1052
00:49:58,514 --> 00:50:01,674
Speaker 5: all of the sports and they're a fan of the sport.

1053
00:50:01,994 --> 00:50:04,674
Speaker 5: They're not a fan of the job. They're not a

1054
00:50:04,714 --> 00:50:08,873
Speaker 5: fan of journalism. They're a fan of I know, football.

1055
00:50:09,514 --> 00:50:13,354
Speaker 5: Like that's that's not the requirement and that's not the recure.

1056
00:50:13,433 --> 00:50:15,474
Speaker 5: It's not the only thing that you I'm not telling

1057
00:50:15,473 --> 00:50:17,754
Speaker 5: you you shouldn't know what a first down is, but

1058
00:50:17,873 --> 00:50:23,433
Speaker 5: you don't need to know the EPA minus plus net

1059
00:50:23,473 --> 00:50:27,194
Speaker 5: neutral of every player to be able to be a

1060
00:50:27,274 --> 00:50:30,714
Speaker 5: journalist and find out what's ticking in the locker room. Right,

1061
00:50:30,873 --> 00:50:32,513
Speaker 5: Like Mike comes out of the locker room and says

1062
00:50:32,514 --> 00:50:34,033
Speaker 5: he felt like it was a little bit more of

1063
00:50:34,034 --> 00:50:36,473
Speaker 5: a low key vibe, whereas one of those guys that

1064
00:50:36,594 --> 00:50:38,274
Speaker 5: come out and say you know, they got too much

1065
00:50:38,314 --> 00:50:41,114
Speaker 5: boundary corner issues with you know, on the three technique

1066
00:50:41,114 --> 00:50:45,074
Speaker 5: on the inside ship. Like that's not helping anybody but you.

1067
00:50:45,754 --> 00:50:48,073
Speaker 5: It's feeding your ego because you think that you can

1068
00:50:48,114 --> 00:50:51,194
Speaker 5: talk exes and o's with an NFL coach. You can't,

1069
00:50:51,274 --> 00:50:53,554
Speaker 5: but you think you can because you read a book

1070
00:50:54,234 --> 00:50:57,154
Speaker 5: or you took a scouting class. Like, that's not the

1071
00:50:57,194 --> 00:51:01,634
Speaker 5: same thing, right, And that's why I think when you lose,

1072
00:51:01,994 --> 00:51:04,634
Speaker 5: Like when you win, it's great because no one cares.

1073
00:51:04,634 --> 00:51:07,594
Speaker 5: But when you lose, people want to know why.

1074
00:51:06,473 --> 00:51:11,354
Speaker 3: They want to be the reporter and the expert, you.

1075
00:51:11,314 --> 00:51:13,673
Speaker 5: Know, right, And I don't think there are very many

1076
00:51:13,754 --> 00:51:16,873
Speaker 5: reporters left. They're just experts, right. And I'm not telling

1077
00:51:16,913 --> 00:51:18,634
Speaker 5: you they all know what they're talking about.

1078
00:51:18,714 --> 00:51:19,873
Speaker 3: Experts with quotations.

1079
00:51:20,714 --> 00:51:22,513
Speaker 5: And I'm not telling you that none of those guys

1080
00:51:22,514 --> 00:51:24,034
Speaker 5: that they know a lot more about the ex's and

1081
00:51:24,074 --> 00:51:27,513
Speaker 5: no's than I'll ever drink. Yeah, and the terminology and

1082
00:51:27,554 --> 00:51:29,393
Speaker 5: I don't, well, I know the terminology. I just don't

1083
00:51:29,433 --> 00:51:32,234
Speaker 5: care about not some of this stuff. There's a difference.

1084
00:51:32,873 --> 00:51:35,274
Speaker 5: There's a difference not caring and not knowing the two

1085
00:51:35,314 --> 00:51:38,074
Speaker 5: different things. I don't think that helps me do my

1086
00:51:38,154 --> 00:51:41,154
Speaker 5: job better. I think sort of listening to Mike tell

1087
00:51:41,234 --> 00:51:43,073
Speaker 5: me what the mood is like in the locker room

1088
00:51:43,393 --> 00:51:46,274
Speaker 5: and what the tenor of the players is helps me.

1089
00:51:46,354 --> 00:51:48,073
Speaker 5: I talked to Mike g Reese about that stuff all

1090
00:51:48,114 --> 00:51:50,553
Speaker 5: the time on Tuesdays when we do our because I'm

1091
00:51:50,554 --> 00:51:52,714
Speaker 5: not always in there. That's when I when I used

1092
00:51:52,714 --> 00:51:55,274
Speaker 5: to go in all the time. That's what I was

1093
00:51:55,473 --> 00:51:59,074
Speaker 5: focusing on, not you know, like, yeah, I used to

1094
00:51:59,154 --> 00:52:01,873
Speaker 5: do something. I don't know, you might not remember this, Fred,

1095
00:52:01,873 --> 00:52:03,274
Speaker 5: but I used to do something like we did a

1096
00:52:03,314 --> 00:52:05,994
Speaker 5: matchup of the week, like sort of one little ex'es

1097
00:52:05,994 --> 00:52:07,913
Speaker 5: and those kind of like nugget and I used to

1098
00:52:07,953 --> 00:52:09,993
Speaker 5: always like to talk to Steph Gilmour about it because

1099
00:52:09,994 --> 00:52:11,513
Speaker 5: I always would say, like, he's going to get the

1100
00:52:11,554 --> 00:52:13,913
Speaker 5: other team's best with you. You know, That's when I got,

1101
00:52:14,034 --> 00:52:17,634
Speaker 5: you know, sort of little insight into Stefan Gilmore's thoughts

1102
00:52:17,634 --> 00:52:25,394
Speaker 5: of Smith Schuster. You know, they lo they lost, they

1103
00:52:25,473 --> 00:52:28,513
Speaker 5: lost Antonio Brown Pittsburgh. Remember they were playing Pittsburgh in

1104
00:52:28,514 --> 00:52:30,554
Speaker 5: the first game of the year one year, and you

1105
00:52:30,594 --> 00:52:34,274
Speaker 5: know it's like Gilmore and sit, Yeah, I said, no,

1106
00:52:34,274 --> 00:52:36,993
Speaker 5: they're not worried about this matchup at all because you

1107
00:52:37,034 --> 00:52:40,234
Speaker 5: get a flip. It's not because they're not worried about

1108
00:52:40,234 --> 00:52:44,393
Speaker 5: this matchup because of the inside shade technique that Gilmore

1109
00:52:44,634 --> 00:52:50,154
Speaker 5: excels at really hurts Juju Smith Schuster's ability to get

1110
00:52:50,194 --> 00:52:53,234
Speaker 5: off the line of scrimmage and beat press man coverage

1111
00:52:53,594 --> 00:52:56,114
Speaker 5: and you know, play the boundary side. Like, That's not

1112
00:52:56,154 --> 00:52:57,754
Speaker 5: why I felt good about it. I felt good about

1113
00:52:57,754 --> 00:53:00,514
Speaker 5: it because I saw sort of the reaction that Gilmore

1114
00:53:00,594 --> 00:53:03,873
Speaker 5: gave me. Yeah, like he ain't, he ain't Antonio Brown,

1115
00:53:03,913 --> 00:53:04,913
Speaker 5: I don't have to worry about this.

1116
00:53:04,994 --> 00:53:06,513
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's definitely more of the side I go to.

1117
00:53:06,594 --> 00:53:09,154
Speaker 4: I feel like though, I'm just like I like watching

1118
00:53:09,274 --> 00:53:10,993
Speaker 4: the All twenty two film afterwards, Like I just I

1119
00:53:11,074 --> 00:53:12,633
Speaker 4: like to go back and watch the game again. There's

1120
00:53:12,674 --> 00:53:14,194
Speaker 4: so much happening. I feel like I miss things. I

1121
00:53:14,234 --> 00:53:15,154
Speaker 4: feel like I slow it down.

1122
00:53:15,194 --> 00:53:16,953
Speaker 5: I'm able to watch absolutely a great thing to do.

1123
00:53:17,114 --> 00:53:20,433
Speaker 4: I've never been comfortable trying to do what Evan does,

1124
00:53:20,473 --> 00:53:22,754
Speaker 4: which is trying to explain it to people. And I

1125
00:53:22,834 --> 00:53:25,633
Speaker 4: understand all these terms, like I've heard all of them enough,

1126
00:53:25,634 --> 00:53:27,993
Speaker 4: I've read enough books, but I've just never been one

1127
00:53:28,114 --> 00:53:30,393
Speaker 4: to try to Now I'm going to explain it to

1128
00:53:30,393 --> 00:53:32,114
Speaker 4: all you guys, you know, and that's that's what's been

1129
00:53:32,114 --> 00:53:33,594
Speaker 4: hard for me. I feel like it saved me. But

1130
00:53:34,034 --> 00:53:36,033
Speaker 4: what I love about football though, is that there's so

1131
00:53:36,074 --> 00:53:38,154
Speaker 4: many different ways to cover this game. And sometimes I

1132
00:53:38,234 --> 00:53:40,754
Speaker 4: wonder like if I was covering hockey, which is, you know,

1133
00:53:40,754 --> 00:53:42,794
Speaker 4: probably the only other sport I feel really confident that

1134
00:53:42,834 --> 00:53:45,034
Speaker 4: I know really well, it would just be so different.

1135
00:53:45,074 --> 00:53:46,953
Speaker 4: There's like it's kind of like because hockey is just

1136
00:53:46,994 --> 00:53:49,113
Speaker 4: so fluid and it's like, yeah, that guy fell down,

1137
00:53:49,194 --> 00:53:52,154
Speaker 4: Like well, that's not like some big schematic like adjustment

1138
00:53:52,194 --> 00:53:54,274
Speaker 4: that the coaches didn't do during the week, you know, And.

1139
00:53:54,154 --> 00:53:56,194
Speaker 5: That's you know, what they do in that sport. Now,

1140
00:53:56,754 --> 00:53:59,354
Speaker 5: the course they're on the internet with the Fenwick and

1141
00:53:59,393 --> 00:54:02,553
Speaker 5: the course and all these different you know, analytics about

1142
00:54:02,594 --> 00:54:07,994
Speaker 5: puck possession and you know expected save percentage like mm hmmm, yeah,

1143
00:54:08,034 --> 00:54:11,393
Speaker 5: and that's whole Did he did he beat the guy? Why?

1144
00:54:11,393 --> 00:54:15,513
Speaker 3: But like the defense I can't understand like reviewing the

1145
00:54:15,554 --> 00:54:17,754
Speaker 3: game all twenty two to see yeah that was a

1146
00:54:17,794 --> 00:54:20,553
Speaker 3: good block or this guy was showfield or that, you know,

1147
00:54:20,794 --> 00:54:23,994
Speaker 3: But to me, for me, I would draw the line

1148
00:54:24,354 --> 00:54:27,473
Speaker 3: like able to look at all twenty two and say, oh,

1149
00:54:27,554 --> 00:54:29,914
Speaker 3: here's what they were trying to do on this play.

1150
00:54:29,953 --> 00:54:32,713
Speaker 3: How do you know? Yeah, how do you know that

1151
00:54:32,953 --> 00:54:35,393
Speaker 3: this guy wasn't on the wrong page and what it

1152
00:54:35,433 --> 00:54:38,354
Speaker 3: looks like he was trying to do was off the reservation,

1153
00:54:38,514 --> 00:54:41,274
Speaker 3: you know, Like so totally agree. That's where I draw

1154
00:54:41,314 --> 00:54:43,553
Speaker 3: the line. It's it's to me, it's good to see

1155
00:54:43,594 --> 00:54:46,354
Speaker 3: like who did what on the play, but the why

1156
00:54:46,994 --> 00:54:49,314
Speaker 3: that's up for the coaches. But like you don't know why.

1157
00:54:49,393 --> 00:54:51,714
Speaker 5: So back to something that Fred and I talked about being,

1158
00:54:51,754 --> 00:54:53,714
Speaker 5: you know, Joe Douglas got fired with the Jets and

1159
00:54:53,714 --> 00:54:55,913
Speaker 5: blah blah blah blah blah. Like to me, I would

1160
00:54:55,953 --> 00:54:58,314
Speaker 5: if I'm a fan of the Jets, I'm far more

1161
00:54:58,354 --> 00:55:00,953
Speaker 5: fascinated with that nugget that we talked about that the

1162
00:55:00,994 --> 00:55:05,033
Speaker 5: Athletics said that Woody Johnson around the time that they

1163
00:55:05,074 --> 00:55:08,914
Speaker 5: fired Salah wanted to bench wanted them to bench Aaron Rodgers.

1164
00:55:08,953 --> 00:55:12,834
Speaker 5: Oh interesting, Like I don't need like I don't need

1165
00:55:12,873 --> 00:55:14,714
Speaker 5: all the stats. I don't need all I didn't I

1166
00:55:14,754 --> 00:55:18,594
Speaker 5: don't need the route combinations and you know what the

1167
00:55:18,594 --> 00:55:22,714
Speaker 5: the that's drop that's turmoil that why did they go

1168
00:55:22,794 --> 00:55:25,594
Speaker 5: one in six and the next seven because the the

1169
00:55:25,754 --> 00:55:28,274
Speaker 5: organization is not on the same page, right, like the

1170
00:55:28,314 --> 00:55:31,194
Speaker 5: owner wants to make a move at quarterback. Evidently, according

1171
00:55:31,234 --> 00:55:33,873
Speaker 5: to the report, the coaches were kind of left to

1172
00:55:33,953 --> 00:55:36,513
Speaker 5: look like was he serious about that? Like, did you

1173
00:55:36,554 --> 00:55:37,754
Speaker 5: seriously want us to do that?

1174
00:55:37,834 --> 00:55:38,073
Speaker 12: Right?

1175
00:55:38,634 --> 00:55:43,073
Speaker 5: Like that's a mess. Yeah, that's dysfunction. To your point, Fred,

1176
00:55:43,074 --> 00:55:44,794
Speaker 5: why are the Jets of the Jets? Why haven't they

1177
00:55:44,834 --> 00:55:48,634
Speaker 5: wont Because it's just another year of utter dysfunction with

1178
00:55:48,714 --> 00:55:52,074
Speaker 5: the Jets. I don't need like to break down the

1179
00:55:52,114 --> 00:55:55,234
Speaker 5: all twenty two to see that Sauce Gardner's not playing

1180
00:55:55,274 --> 00:55:57,393
Speaker 5: anywhere near the level he played it his first couple

1181
00:55:57,433 --> 00:56:00,073
Speaker 5: of years. That they're dysfunctional mess.

1182
00:56:00,194 --> 00:56:00,354
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1183
00:56:00,354 --> 00:56:02,554
Speaker 4: And the crazy thing is if they had bench Rogers,

1184
00:56:02,674 --> 00:56:04,993
Speaker 4: they'd still be a dysfunctional mess. Like that would be

1185
00:56:05,074 --> 00:56:08,113
Speaker 4: problem too. So like they were just I actually saying

1186
00:56:08,154 --> 00:56:09,553
Speaker 4: it to Laine last night, were talking. I don't why

1187
00:56:09,554 --> 00:56:11,754
Speaker 4: we're talking about it, but it's like all summer we

1188
00:56:11,794 --> 00:56:14,674
Speaker 4: just said, I don't know, but the Jets are the Jets.

1189
00:56:15,234 --> 00:56:17,114
Speaker 5: You guys told me and I didn't. I gotta be

1190
00:56:17,314 --> 00:56:18,553
Speaker 5: I have to be honest. As much as I hate

1191
00:56:18,594 --> 00:56:21,274
Speaker 5: Daran Rodgers, I did not envision this. I was wrong

1192
00:56:21,314 --> 00:56:23,234
Speaker 5: on that. I thought he'd be better. I didn't think

1193
00:56:23,234 --> 00:56:25,634
Speaker 5: the Jets. I thought Buffalo would win the division, but

1194
00:56:25,674 --> 00:56:27,513
Speaker 5: I thought the Jets would be right in line for

1195
00:56:27,554 --> 00:56:31,874
Speaker 5: a playoff spot. I didn't envision a total system failure

1196
00:56:32,354 --> 00:56:34,433
Speaker 5: like at a lot of ever did a lot of

1197
00:56:34,473 --> 00:56:37,953
Speaker 5: other people did, so, you know, hats off to all

1198
00:56:37,994 --> 00:56:38,794
Speaker 5: you guys.

1199
00:56:39,873 --> 00:56:41,473
Speaker 4: But there was just I feel like a lot of

1200
00:56:41,514 --> 00:56:43,033
Speaker 4: it was just like, I don't I don't have a

1201
00:56:43,074 --> 00:56:43,754
Speaker 4: reason for it.

1202
00:56:43,794 --> 00:56:45,873
Speaker 10: I'm just gonna that's what I said.

1203
00:56:46,114 --> 00:56:47,714
Speaker 5: That's that's not necessarily a prediction.

1204
00:56:47,913 --> 00:56:51,553
Speaker 4: They got the talent. I mean, could probably people on

1205
00:56:51,554 --> 00:56:54,114
Speaker 4: the fence with Robert Salak coming into this year anyway

1206
00:56:54,154 --> 00:56:56,834
Speaker 4: a little bit. But that was more just but.

1207
00:56:56,794 --> 00:56:59,794
Speaker 5: Like, to me, to find out that kind of information

1208
00:56:59,873 --> 00:57:03,553
Speaker 5: about my team, that's reporting. That's to me far more

1209
00:57:03,634 --> 00:57:08,274
Speaker 5: valuable than what the beat writer thought of the game plan. Yeah,

1210
00:57:08,674 --> 00:57:09,314
Speaker 5: do you know what I mean?

1211
00:57:09,433 --> 00:57:13,993
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, it's like the old fable the scorpion and

1212
00:57:14,034 --> 00:57:17,314
Speaker 3: the toad. I think it's like the toad asked the

1213
00:57:17,314 --> 00:57:22,834
Speaker 3: scorpion for a ride across the river, and uh, you know,

1214
00:57:23,154 --> 00:57:26,754
Speaker 3: halfway through, the scorpion stings thee and tells like, dude,

1215
00:57:26,754 --> 00:57:29,354
Speaker 3: what are you doing? Like I'm helping you? Goes, Well,

1216
00:57:29,514 --> 00:57:31,674
Speaker 3: you knew I was a scorpion when you asked me,

1217
00:57:31,794 --> 00:57:34,554
Speaker 3: what did you expect? Knew they were the Jets when

1218
00:57:34,554 --> 00:57:36,114
Speaker 3: it happened, like, what did you expect?

1219
00:57:36,234 --> 00:57:38,434
Speaker 4: Usually, when I hear that fable, it's a snake.

1220
00:57:38,554 --> 00:57:40,834
Speaker 3: It could be a snake road degre I heard it with.

1221
00:57:40,714 --> 00:57:43,314
Speaker 4: The score, somebody finds a wounded snake on the road

1222
00:57:43,314 --> 00:57:44,554
Speaker 4: and back to health.

1223
00:57:44,554 --> 00:57:44,874
Speaker 3: And then.

1224
00:57:46,434 --> 00:57:47,914
Speaker 5: Yeah, aarons what I did?

1225
00:57:48,114 --> 00:57:48,754
Speaker 4: Rodgers bit him?

1226
00:57:48,834 --> 00:57:50,914
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a snake. I bite you. We're the Jets.

1227
00:57:50,914 --> 00:57:51,514
Speaker 3: We screw up.

1228
00:57:51,634 --> 00:57:52,394
Speaker 5: I am what I am?

1229
00:57:52,514 --> 00:57:55,554
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. All right, let's see if we can get

1230
00:57:55,594 --> 00:58:00,034
Speaker 3: the TPX outline working. It's my keys from Philadelphia. What's up, Marquis?

1231
00:58:02,474 --> 00:58:08,794
Speaker 3: Oh no really, Oh that's too bad. I can't hear

1232
00:58:08,834 --> 00:58:11,474
Speaker 3: your Marquis. Sorry. Oh he's not there.

1233
00:58:11,674 --> 00:58:13,154
Speaker 5: Oh okay, I did.

1234
00:58:13,194 --> 00:58:14,514
Speaker 3: He wasn't on the line that long.

1235
00:58:15,034 --> 00:58:17,394
Speaker 4: Maybe he was just people from Philadelphia a little impatient.

1236
00:58:17,794 --> 00:58:22,074
Speaker 3: We were talking Santa, you know. The twenty five semi

1237
00:58:22,074 --> 00:58:25,994
Speaker 3: finalists came out yep, yep. In my opinion of the list,

1238
00:58:26,074 --> 00:58:27,274
Speaker 3: Adam is the only lock.

1239
00:58:27,514 --> 00:58:30,194
Speaker 4: Oh wow, Yeah, NFL's all time leading scorer.

1240
00:58:30,234 --> 00:58:36,954
Speaker 3: Paul thinks Eli Manning should be in. Oh boy says

1241
00:58:37,234 --> 00:58:39,954
Speaker 3: from tem Broke. He says, if Eli Manning, a man

1242
00:58:39,994 --> 00:58:43,554
Speaker 3: who has two seasons with twenty plus interceptions and only

1243
00:58:43,594 --> 00:58:46,514
Speaker 3: had less than ten interceptions in two seasons where he

1244
00:58:46,554 --> 00:58:48,994
Speaker 3: didn't play more than ten games, gets into the Hall

1245
00:58:48,994 --> 00:58:52,674
Speaker 3: of Fame before Vinitary or Harrison, then the Hall loses

1246
00:58:52,754 --> 00:58:53,834
Speaker 3: all its credibility.

1247
00:58:55,154 --> 00:58:57,234
Speaker 5: Well, I don't think Eli Manning should be a Hall

1248
00:58:57,274 --> 00:58:57,914
Speaker 5: of Famer.

1249
00:58:57,674 --> 00:58:59,514
Speaker 3: So I don't either. And you brought him up.

1250
00:58:59,594 --> 00:59:01,634
Speaker 5: No, I brought him up because you said that he

1251
00:59:01,674 --> 00:59:06,594
Speaker 5: made Adam vinit Erry, it was great. Great. Fred and

1252
00:59:06,634 --> 00:59:08,754
Speaker 5: Paul argument, Yeah, like we both think he should be

1253
00:59:08,754 --> 00:59:09,914
Speaker 5: a first ballot Hall of Famer.

1254
00:59:09,994 --> 00:59:10,914
Speaker 3: But we still argue.

1255
00:59:10,954 --> 00:59:15,074
Speaker 5: But Fred said he's the greatest kicker who ever lived.

1256
00:59:15,634 --> 00:59:19,794
Speaker 5: And I said, well, he's the greatest clutch kicker that

1257
00:59:19,834 --> 00:59:22,114
Speaker 5: ever lived. That's not exactly the same thing. And he said,

1258
00:59:22,234 --> 00:59:25,474
Speaker 5: well it is. He made those two kicks. I go, Lee,

1259
00:59:25,674 --> 00:59:28,914
Speaker 5: Eli Manning made those two throws to win two Super Bowls?

1260
00:59:28,914 --> 00:59:31,754
Speaker 5: So does that mean he should go? And then of

1261
00:59:31,794 --> 00:59:33,594
Speaker 5: course we moved, you know, we moved it all around

1262
00:59:33,554 --> 00:59:35,674
Speaker 5: the court. Arm but I do not believe that. I mean,

1263
00:59:35,754 --> 00:59:39,594
Speaker 5: I totally recognize that Eli Manning his last name and

1264
00:59:39,634 --> 00:59:41,994
Speaker 5: where he played, and I'm not stupid. I know he's

1265
00:59:41,994 --> 00:59:43,674
Speaker 5: probably gonna go to the Hall of Fame. I don't

1266
00:59:43,674 --> 00:59:45,113
Speaker 5: think he should be. I don't think he's a Hall

1267
00:59:45,154 --> 00:59:48,714
Speaker 5: of Famer. I don't, But Adam Vina Terry, I don't

1268
00:59:48,714 --> 00:59:49,994
Speaker 5: think there's an argument against.

1269
00:59:50,394 --> 00:59:50,674
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1270
00:59:50,754 --> 00:59:52,434
Speaker 5: I think he's a lock for the Hall of Fame.

1271
00:59:52,474 --> 00:59:54,754
Speaker 3: And according to one emailer, he is the all time

1272
00:59:55,034 --> 00:59:56,474
Speaker 3: point leader, leading scorer.

1273
00:59:56,554 --> 00:59:58,394
Speaker 10: Y yeah, I wrote that this morning.

1274
00:59:58,994 --> 01:00:00,354
Speaker 3: Do you think? And there it is?

1275
01:00:00,394 --> 01:00:04,114
Speaker 5: It doesn't mean he's the best? Do you so?

1276
01:00:04,194 --> 01:00:06,354
Speaker 3: He has the most points and he's the most clutch?

1277
01:00:06,914 --> 01:00:09,274
Speaker 3: How what else? What are the criteria? Are you looking for?

1278
01:00:09,714 --> 01:00:11,434
Speaker 5: Accuracy percentage?

1279
01:00:11,594 --> 01:00:11,874
Speaker 3: Okay?

1280
01:00:12,034 --> 01:00:13,714
Speaker 5: Who makes the most more often?

1281
01:00:13,914 --> 01:00:16,114
Speaker 3: Well? Justin Tucker's not up yet.

1282
01:00:16,034 --> 01:00:20,754
Speaker 5: Okay, but I'm not you're moving the goalposts. Ironically for

1283
01:00:20,794 --> 01:00:21,714
Speaker 5: a dicker.

1284
01:00:22,274 --> 01:00:22,874
Speaker 10: It's hard to do.

1285
01:00:23,914 --> 01:00:24,234
Speaker 4: Shoot.

1286
01:00:24,234 --> 01:00:25,874
Speaker 10: I was just gonna say, so, do you think.

1287
01:00:25,674 --> 01:00:29,874
Speaker 4: That the fact that Eli Manning beat an undefeated Patriots

1288
01:00:29,954 --> 01:00:31,794
Speaker 4: team like that, like those.

1289
01:00:31,714 --> 01:00:37,114
Speaker 5: Like I'm not saying it's ridiculous that he's he's under consideration,

1290
01:00:37,514 --> 01:00:41,314
Speaker 5: But if you're me. Eli Manning isn't much different than

1291
01:00:41,394 --> 01:00:44,474
Speaker 5: Philip Rivers or you know, we talked about Matthew Stafford

1292
01:00:45,514 --> 01:00:48,514
Speaker 5: like they they're guys that were good players. Matter of fact,

1293
01:00:48,514 --> 01:00:51,674
Speaker 5: I would put Rivers in Stafford over Eli Manning, but

1294
01:00:52,714 --> 01:00:55,314
Speaker 5: they they were they were like kind of hallo, very good.

1295
01:00:55,594 --> 01:00:58,754
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're all of very good players.

1296
01:00:59,354 --> 01:01:01,874
Speaker 5: He's going in like you're not stupid. He's going in like.

1297
01:01:02,234 --> 01:01:05,594
Speaker 4: There were so many random quarterbacks over those twenty plus

1298
01:01:05,674 --> 01:01:08,514
Speaker 4: years that just went off against the Patriots at random times.

1299
01:01:08,554 --> 01:01:10,954
Speaker 4: Like I just like I'm remembering like court Nick Foles

1300
01:01:10,954 --> 01:01:12,794
Speaker 4: in the in the Super Bowl, but I'm remembering like

1301
01:01:13,354 --> 01:01:15,593
Speaker 4: one of the backup like a J. Feely or something

1302
01:01:15,594 --> 01:01:19,674
Speaker 4: like just the random quarterbacks they had like one totally

1303
01:01:19,674 --> 01:01:20,234
Speaker 4: one as.

1304
01:01:21,154 --> 01:01:23,474
Speaker 5: To the Patriots. He not just in the two.

1305
01:01:23,674 --> 01:01:25,634
Speaker 4: Was here for the eleven game too that it to him.

1306
01:01:25,634 --> 01:01:27,914
Speaker 5: And he had another game that they that the Giants

1307
01:01:27,954 --> 01:01:30,554
Speaker 5: actually lost because Gostowski made like a fifty five yard

1308
01:01:30,594 --> 01:01:33,593
Speaker 5: field goal on at the buzzer at the Metal Lands.

1309
01:01:33,594 --> 01:01:36,434
Speaker 3: Well even in Game sixteen in the regular season, it.

1310
01:01:36,394 --> 01:01:39,234
Speaker 5: Was just another yeah, yeah, you know, I Man played

1311
01:01:39,234 --> 01:01:40,474
Speaker 5: well against the Patriots.

1312
01:01:40,554 --> 01:01:42,674
Speaker 4: The king of those guys but he was actually, you know,

1313
01:01:42,674 --> 01:01:44,714
Speaker 4: I'd say pretty good. But there were a lot of

1314
01:01:44,714 --> 01:01:47,634
Speaker 4: other just random guys similar jeely did it you know

1315
01:01:48,114 --> 01:01:51,234
Speaker 4: Matt Flynn on Green Bay yep?

1316
01:01:51,714 --> 01:01:55,314
Speaker 3: Basically the contract with the Dan Conley game, yep, yep.

1317
01:01:55,594 --> 01:01:58,674
Speaker 3: It was the one in Chicago that their backup quarterback

1318
01:01:58,714 --> 01:02:02,114
Speaker 3: gave us all kinds of fits. It was mid two thousand,

1319
01:02:02,674 --> 01:02:04,794
Speaker 3: the odds, I forget it was.

1320
01:02:04,714 --> 01:02:07,554
Speaker 10: A backups and Rex Grossman, right, no, I.

1321
01:02:07,474 --> 01:02:10,634
Speaker 3: Forget, but it's like, why do we make these backup quarterbacks?

1322
01:02:10,794 --> 01:02:12,834
Speaker 4: I know it happened like you would think, just like

1323
01:02:12,874 --> 01:02:14,794
Speaker 4: the Dynasty of twenty years and every time they played

1324
01:02:14,834 --> 01:02:15,274
Speaker 4: a crap.

1325
01:02:15,514 --> 01:02:19,274
Speaker 3: Matthews that could have been that rings a belly something

1326
01:02:19,314 --> 01:02:23,914
Speaker 3: like that. Anyway, former Florida Kyle says back to the

1327
01:02:23,914 --> 01:02:27,274
Speaker 3: Patriots with the nice weather of Miami in May, being

1328
01:02:27,314 --> 01:02:29,674
Speaker 3: from the Carolinas, do you think he could have a

1329
01:02:29,714 --> 01:02:33,554
Speaker 3: career day three hundred yards three plus touchdowns this Sunday?

1330
01:02:33,674 --> 01:02:33,914
Speaker 3: I do.

1331
01:02:35,114 --> 01:02:36,914
Speaker 4: I think Drake can have a really good game this week.

1332
01:02:36,954 --> 01:02:38,354
Speaker 4: I just don't know if he can have a good

1333
01:02:38,474 --> 01:02:40,554
Speaker 4: enough game to win the win the game because I

1334
01:02:40,594 --> 01:02:42,154
Speaker 4: don't know if they can keep up with Miami. I

1335
01:02:42,274 --> 01:02:45,794
Speaker 4: just but I I feel like I'm expecting to see

1336
01:02:45,794 --> 01:02:46,434
Speaker 4: good things out of Drake.

1337
01:02:46,714 --> 01:02:49,154
Speaker 5: I'm not expecting to see a bad offensive performance, not

1338
01:02:49,234 --> 01:02:51,394
Speaker 5: after what they did against the Rams. I think the

1339
01:02:51,474 --> 01:02:53,434
Speaker 5: Rams have a better defense than Miami does.

1340
01:02:53,594 --> 01:02:53,834
Speaker 3: Yep.

1341
01:02:56,114 --> 01:02:57,994
Speaker 5: And I you know, I think that the weather. Yeah,

1342
01:02:57,994 --> 01:03:01,073
Speaker 5: it's I mean, he's used to playing you know, he's

1343
01:03:01,154 --> 01:03:03,633
Speaker 5: used to playing down there. I don't think the weather

1344
01:03:03,634 --> 01:03:04,274
Speaker 5: will be a factor.

1345
01:03:04,354 --> 01:03:07,154
Speaker 4: Yeah, Jonathan Jones throwing some shade at the fact that

1346
01:03:07,194 --> 01:03:09,754
Speaker 4: there is no shade for the visiting team down there,

1347
01:03:09,794 --> 01:03:11,714
Speaker 4: and you know, he's saying, part of what makes it

1348
01:03:11,754 --> 01:03:13,914
Speaker 4: hard to play down there, that's one little element of

1349
01:03:13,954 --> 01:03:15,034
Speaker 4: the layout of the stadium.

1350
01:03:15,114 --> 01:03:17,634
Speaker 5: Isn't that one of the reasons that that we built

1351
01:03:17,674 --> 01:03:19,874
Speaker 5: the stadium the way we did too for the wind

1352
01:03:20,274 --> 01:03:21,314
Speaker 5: well in the the sun.

1353
01:03:22,834 --> 01:03:23,274
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1354
01:03:23,354 --> 01:03:24,794
Speaker 5: I think I think that was.

1355
01:03:24,794 --> 01:03:27,434
Speaker 3: I think you always build a stadium north south.

1356
01:03:27,674 --> 01:03:29,593
Speaker 5: No, but we have the side with the sun.

1357
01:03:29,914 --> 01:03:31,674
Speaker 3: Oh why we sit that side?

1358
01:03:31,674 --> 01:03:31,834
Speaker 13: Oh?

1359
01:03:31,874 --> 01:03:32,034
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1360
01:03:32,114 --> 01:03:35,754
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was intentional. Yeah, I remember you because he

1361
01:03:35,874 --> 01:03:36,754
Speaker 5: told me the story.

1362
01:03:36,914 --> 01:03:38,314
Speaker 4: But in the winter, don't you want to be in there?

1363
01:03:38,314 --> 01:03:42,474
Speaker 5: And you also get closer to the locker locker room.

1364
01:03:42,634 --> 01:03:45,034
Speaker 4: Yeah, they were never on the other side, though, right,

1365
01:03:45,394 --> 01:03:46,554
Speaker 4: you can't because.

1366
01:03:46,594 --> 01:03:49,034
Speaker 3: This stadium really don't have This stadium is built into

1367
01:03:49,074 --> 01:03:52,594
Speaker 3: the side of granted, so a lot of stadiums have

1368
01:03:52,794 --> 01:03:56,354
Speaker 3: full circle on their service tunnel our stops. Oh, I

1369
01:03:56,354 --> 01:03:58,994
Speaker 3: didn't realize that's why it's on granted, because it's all

1370
01:03:58,994 --> 01:04:00,154
Speaker 3: granted on this side.

1371
01:04:00,834 --> 01:04:01,633
Speaker 10: Construction talk.

1372
01:04:01,674 --> 01:04:07,034
Speaker 4: I like it Bedrock, maybe.

1373
01:04:05,874 --> 01:04:11,754
Speaker 3: Mantle Ford and Savannah, Georgia. You've been in Savannah. It's

1374
01:04:11,794 --> 01:04:12,394
Speaker 3: worth the trip.

1375
01:04:12,834 --> 01:04:14,034
Speaker 5: Savannah, I don't believe.

1376
01:04:14,034 --> 01:04:15,474
Speaker 10: I have no it's a good place to visit.

1377
01:04:15,714 --> 01:04:17,434
Speaker 5: I haven't spent a ton of time in Georgia.

1378
01:04:17,634 --> 01:04:19,354
Speaker 10: I went to Atlanta for the Olympics, and I.

1379
01:04:19,234 --> 01:04:21,074
Speaker 5: Was in Atlanta for a Super Bowl. Mike, you wouldn't know,

1380
01:04:21,074 --> 01:04:22,114
Speaker 5: but I don't know what that's like.

1381
01:04:22,714 --> 01:04:26,994
Speaker 3: Savannah is very different than Atlanta. I knew Gerard's job

1382
01:04:27,114 --> 01:04:29,154
Speaker 3: was going to be hard one because we were all

1383
01:04:29,194 --> 01:04:33,074
Speaker 3: exposed to a masterclass in coaching for twenty plus years.

1384
01:04:33,634 --> 01:04:35,194
Speaker 3: Like it or not, I feel like those of us

1385
01:04:35,234 --> 01:04:38,314
Speaker 3: who watched closely all got an education in football, which

1386
01:04:38,354 --> 01:04:41,554
Speaker 3: is probably colors the way we see the game. Whoever

1387
01:04:41,594 --> 01:04:43,754
Speaker 3: coaches the Patriots is going to get a fan base

1388
01:04:43,954 --> 01:04:46,754
Speaker 3: who at least think they know what they're talking about

1389
01:04:46,794 --> 01:04:48,314
Speaker 3: for years to come. Do you agree?

1390
01:04:48,874 --> 01:04:50,713
Speaker 4: I do agree, because I feel like I'm a prime

1391
01:04:50,754 --> 01:04:52,514
Speaker 4: example of it. I mean I was one of the

1392
01:04:52,554 --> 01:04:54,914
Speaker 4: reasons I wanted to learn more about football is everyone

1393
01:04:54,954 --> 01:04:57,514
Speaker 4: talked about Bill Belichick being a genius, and that was

1394
01:04:57,874 --> 01:05:00,673
Speaker 4: you know, maybe four h five that that period after

1395
01:05:00,674 --> 01:05:03,434
Speaker 4: they won three Super Bowls, and I was just became

1396
01:05:03,474 --> 01:05:05,714
Speaker 4: really curious about, well, what's he doing, Why is he

1397
01:05:05,754 --> 01:05:07,634
Speaker 4: a genius? Like what is you know, I wanted to

1398
01:05:07,834 --> 01:05:09,994
Speaker 4: I mean I played high school football, but you know,

1399
01:05:10,074 --> 01:05:12,474
Speaker 4: never thought about x's and o's in terms of like

1400
01:05:12,514 --> 01:05:14,954
Speaker 4: really being able to dominate a game. It just felt like, well,

1401
01:05:14,954 --> 01:05:16,674
Speaker 4: here's your playbook and you're going to try to execute,

1402
01:05:16,674 --> 01:05:18,434
Speaker 4: and they're going to try to execute. But you know,

1403
01:05:18,434 --> 01:05:20,154
Speaker 4: it was the first time I realized that that there

1404
01:05:20,154 --> 01:05:22,354
Speaker 4: could be an advantage, There could be curveballs, there could

1405
01:05:22,354 --> 01:05:25,154
Speaker 4: be things that teams aren't expecting, and you know that

1406
01:05:25,234 --> 01:05:26,954
Speaker 4: I was part of the reason I started to try

1407
01:05:26,994 --> 01:05:29,474
Speaker 4: to learn more about the schematic stuff was because of

1408
01:05:29,514 --> 01:05:33,274
Speaker 4: Bill and his impact on this team.

1409
01:05:33,434 --> 01:05:36,194
Speaker 3: Mike I made the announcement because we had an emailer

1410
01:05:36,234 --> 01:05:39,474
Speaker 3: who asked me if I could rank my hated teams,

1411
01:05:39,474 --> 01:05:42,114
Speaker 3: my most hated teams. So I'm doing it in the

1412
01:05:42,114 --> 01:05:45,114
Speaker 3: newsletter this okay, all right, So I'm not gonna announce

1413
01:05:45,154 --> 01:05:46,914
Speaker 3: it on the show, but if you get the newsletter

1414
01:05:47,114 --> 01:05:49,673
Speaker 3: Hated Podcasts at Patriots dot com to get on the list,

1415
01:05:50,354 --> 01:05:53,633
Speaker 3: you'll get my list of most hated teams and why Yeah,

1416
01:05:54,234 --> 01:05:55,714
Speaker 3: but Dan and Virginia in Michigan.

1417
01:05:55,914 --> 01:06:00,634
Speaker 5: I'm just going to say so and so why because.

1418
01:06:01,794 --> 01:06:04,673
Speaker 3: Dan says it's not the Patriots, his friend's list that's

1419
01:06:04,714 --> 01:06:07,593
Speaker 3: coming out Friday, his list of most hated teams as

1420
01:06:07,714 --> 01:06:11,073
Speaker 3: leader of Pew Nation, or his personal list all time

1421
01:06:11,154 --> 01:06:15,274
Speaker 3: of most hated teams person personal? How much does this

1422
01:06:15,314 --> 01:06:17,994
Speaker 3: list overlap with Fred's fur and again lists from the

1423
01:06:17,994 --> 01:06:21,754
Speaker 3: The Flake eight days? There might be a little, not

1424
01:06:21,834 --> 01:06:22,354
Speaker 3: too much.

1425
01:06:23,074 --> 01:06:25,114
Speaker 5: The only I want again that will be on this

1426
01:06:25,314 --> 01:06:26,274
Speaker 5: list that I could think of.

1427
01:06:27,914 --> 01:06:30,394
Speaker 3: The only different The only hall of fame that Eli

1428
01:06:30,474 --> 01:06:33,274
Speaker 3: Manning belongs is in the mouth breather Hall of Fame.

1429
01:06:33,754 --> 01:06:35,914
Speaker 3: I'm not sure where that is located, but I'm guessing

1430
01:06:35,954 --> 01:06:37,154
Speaker 3: it's in Florida somewhere.

1431
01:06:38,274 --> 01:06:40,074
Speaker 5: Yeh see. Now we're going to take it to the extreme,

1432
01:06:40,394 --> 01:06:43,634
Speaker 5: like he doesn't even deserve consideration Now you know, I

1433
01:06:43,754 --> 01:06:46,514
Speaker 5: personally like a small hall Fred and I are very

1434
01:06:46,794 --> 01:06:51,554
Speaker 5: like minded, like you, Rodney, for you borderline candidate.

1435
01:06:51,674 --> 01:06:53,153
Speaker 4: That's why I asked, because I feel like he would

1436
01:06:53,194 --> 01:06:53,554
Speaker 4: be for you.

1437
01:06:53,594 --> 01:06:54,034
Speaker 10: That's why I.

1438
01:06:54,074 --> 01:07:00,434
Speaker 3: Was Antonio Gates right, I'd love him to get loves.

1439
01:07:00,554 --> 01:07:02,834
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's a good one. It's a good question for.

1440
01:07:02,794 --> 01:07:05,994
Speaker 5: You, Antonio Gates. Oh that's a that's a Hall of Famer.

1441
01:07:06,114 --> 01:07:10,914
Speaker 3: Yeah. Emery writes in I'm surprised that Paul's headline from

1442
01:07:10,954 --> 01:07:14,154
Speaker 3: Mayo's press conference today was cold strange. I thought for

1443
01:07:14,234 --> 01:07:16,914
Speaker 3: sure he would have latched onto Mao saying it's in

1444
01:07:16,954 --> 01:07:20,314
Speaker 3: their plan to eventually incorporate design runs for may. What

1445
01:07:20,394 --> 01:07:21,914
Speaker 3: are your thoughts on that plan and what do you

1446
01:07:21,954 --> 01:07:25,074
Speaker 3: see need to see to feel more comfortable with may running?

1447
01:07:26,634 --> 01:07:29,314
Speaker 5: Interesting? It is absolutely an interesting nugget that I probably

1448
01:07:29,354 --> 01:07:31,194
Speaker 5: should have brought up. I think the email is right.

1449
01:07:31,234 --> 01:07:33,554
Speaker 5: I didn't take it as strongly as he just explained

1450
01:07:33,594 --> 01:07:36,354
Speaker 5: it though. The answer, Now, you was sitting next to me, Mike,

1451
01:07:36,434 --> 01:07:37,034
Speaker 5: did you No?

1452
01:07:37,114 --> 01:07:37,474
Speaker 4: Not really?

1453
01:07:37,514 --> 01:07:39,673
Speaker 5: I mean I know that's something we Yeah, that's something

1454
01:07:39,674 --> 01:07:40,073
Speaker 5: we could do.

1455
01:07:40,154 --> 01:07:41,633
Speaker 4: I'm all for it. In the red zone, I'm all

1456
01:07:41,674 --> 01:07:43,794
Speaker 4: for it. That you know, inside the five yard line.

1457
01:07:44,194 --> 01:07:45,394
Speaker 4: We've talked about a bunch of times.

1458
01:07:45,394 --> 01:07:47,154
Speaker 5: I'm all for that kind of like midfield though, And

1459
01:07:47,234 --> 01:07:50,034
Speaker 5: the email is right, he said that's something that's definitely coming,

1460
01:07:50,194 --> 01:07:52,634
Speaker 5: But I didn't really take it as something that was

1461
01:07:52,674 --> 01:07:52,994
Speaker 5: all that.

1462
01:07:53,074 --> 01:07:56,154
Speaker 3: Yeah, because they really haven't you know, done any like

1463
01:07:56,314 --> 01:07:57,514
Speaker 3: option run.

1464
01:07:58,434 --> 01:08:00,634
Speaker 5: They did it in the preseason and he easily walked

1465
01:08:00,634 --> 01:08:03,834
Speaker 5: in against the Eagles. Yeah, so I wouldn't be surprised

1466
01:08:03,834 --> 01:08:05,914
Speaker 5: to see something like that in the red zone.

1467
01:08:05,994 --> 01:08:06,194
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1468
01:08:06,274 --> 01:08:08,034
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I like what they're doing.

1469
01:08:08,034 --> 01:08:08,354
Speaker 5: I don't.

1470
01:08:08,594 --> 01:08:11,113
Speaker 3: I don't. Everybody would lose, is you know what if

1471
01:08:11,114 --> 01:08:12,834
Speaker 3: they started doing that, you.

1472
01:08:12,794 --> 01:08:14,554
Speaker 4: Know, But I think we all want to see him

1473
01:08:14,994 --> 01:08:17,073
Speaker 4: learn to play quarterback and that's you know, that's what

1474
01:08:17,114 --> 01:08:19,554
Speaker 4: I've been most excited about with him. And it's nice

1475
01:08:19,554 --> 01:08:22,034
Speaker 4: when you have that athleticism to pick up those you know,

1476
01:08:22,114 --> 01:08:24,994
Speaker 4: downs where people are covered. But his progress in the

1477
01:08:25,034 --> 01:08:26,954
Speaker 4: part and getting the ball out quick, like, those are

1478
01:08:26,994 --> 01:08:28,554
Speaker 4: the things I'm here for. Like if they run an

1479
01:08:28,634 --> 01:08:30,674
Speaker 4: RPO with him and he can you know or you know,

1480
01:08:30,794 --> 01:08:33,234
Speaker 4: read option and he keeps it great in the red zone,

1481
01:08:33,234 --> 01:08:34,514
Speaker 4: but I don't need to see it.

1482
01:08:34,554 --> 01:08:37,114
Speaker 5: And it's also it's it's great, you know, in the

1483
01:08:37,154 --> 01:08:41,634
Speaker 5: short term, it's great if it succeeds. You know, you

1484
01:08:41,754 --> 01:08:47,114
Speaker 5: need to be able to succeed in the regular way. Yeah,

1485
01:08:47,634 --> 01:08:51,154
Speaker 5: did you watch the end of the Pittsburgh Baltimore excuse me,

1486
01:08:51,554 --> 01:08:54,794
Speaker 5: Pittsburgh BALTI Well, I had a little burp from my DIAPEPSI.

1487
01:08:55,314 --> 01:08:57,074
Speaker 5: I didn't want to like let it fly on the air.

1488
01:08:58,714 --> 01:09:01,674
Speaker 5: So Ravens score with about a minute left down too,

1489
01:09:01,754 --> 01:09:04,314
Speaker 5: they need a two point conversion. Lamar keeps it never

1490
01:09:04,394 --> 01:09:08,314
Speaker 5: had a chance, Like, you need to find a way

1491
01:09:08,394 --> 01:09:11,554
Speaker 5: to get those in without just relying on your quarterback.

1492
01:09:12,354 --> 01:09:14,874
Speaker 5: And I think they're probably trying to teach that first,

1493
01:09:15,314 --> 01:09:18,034
Speaker 5: knowing they'll have this in their bag at some point.

1494
01:09:18,354 --> 01:09:22,994
Speaker 5: And again the email is right. Gerrod did say when

1495
01:09:23,154 --> 01:09:25,554
Speaker 5: I think, I think Phil Perry asked him of it.

1496
01:09:25,634 --> 01:09:28,274
Speaker 5: In the way Phil brought it up, was that he

1497
01:09:28,394 --> 01:09:30,634
Speaker 5: was scrambling a lot. But it seems like the last

1498
01:09:30,674 --> 01:09:33,034
Speaker 5: two weeks that number has dropped a little bit. It's

1499
01:09:33,034 --> 01:09:34,634
Speaker 5: been like three or four a game as opposed to

1500
01:09:34,714 --> 01:09:39,274
Speaker 5: eight or nine. Might you say, well, he's not getting

1501
01:09:39,354 --> 01:09:42,394
Speaker 5: hit as much, so maybe we can have him run. Yeah,

1502
01:09:42,594 --> 01:09:44,434
Speaker 5: I think it's still probably not in the best interest

1503
01:09:44,434 --> 01:09:46,314
Speaker 5: in getting him hit his you know as much.

1504
01:09:46,394 --> 01:09:48,074
Speaker 10: No, no, no, don't want it.

1505
01:09:48,594 --> 01:09:52,194
Speaker 3: All right, we'll take a break. Let's see what do

1506
01:09:52,274 --> 01:09:52,914
Speaker 3: I have here?

1507
01:09:53,274 --> 01:09:53,834
Speaker 5: Any food?

1508
01:09:54,154 --> 01:09:56,434
Speaker 3: No, I didn't want to food today. It wasn't too hungry.

1509
01:09:56,554 --> 01:09:57,434
Speaker 5: Fred's Food's not here.

1510
01:09:58,434 --> 01:10:02,474
Speaker 3: Ah, it's easy to drink, it's easy to enjoy. Bud Light,

1511
01:10:02,794 --> 01:10:08,594
Speaker 3: the official beer sponsor of the New England Patriots. He's

1512
01:10:08,634 --> 01:10:10,474
Speaker 3: on his way because he's got to go shopping for

1513
01:10:10,554 --> 01:10:16,554
Speaker 3: Black Friday. He wants to spend more time shopping in

1514
01:10:16,634 --> 01:10:19,674
Speaker 3: less time waiting in line. So this November, Bob's is unboxed,

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Speaker 5: Only what you saw last week from your team.

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01:12:17,594 --> 01:12:18,794
Speaker 11: You talked a little bit about.

1552
01:12:18,554 --> 01:12:19,354
Speaker 3: A post game plays.

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01:12:19,714 --> 01:12:20,714
Speaker 11: You feel like you're getting.

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01:12:20,514 --> 01:12:23,114
Speaker 9: Closer, you know, and what is it maybe that's holding

1555
01:12:23,154 --> 01:12:24,914
Speaker 9: you back a little bit in the red zones and

1556
01:12:25,554 --> 01:12:27,674
Speaker 9: things like that to keep you guys optimal lot.

1557
01:12:28,474 --> 01:12:29,794
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think we moved the ball well. You know,

1558
01:12:29,834 --> 01:12:31,314
Speaker 11: I can think you know, the first of all the rams.

1559
01:12:31,354 --> 01:12:32,794
Speaker 11: You know, if they are you know, good defense, are

1560
01:12:32,794 --> 01:12:37,194
Speaker 11: good up front, you know, obviously he had some chances

1561
01:12:37,234 --> 01:12:38,594
Speaker 11: and like I said, down there in the red zone,

1562
01:12:38,594 --> 01:12:39,914
Speaker 11: if we've got you know, punched it in. I don't

1563
01:12:39,954 --> 01:12:42,594
Speaker 11: think it was something that that they did. I think

1564
01:12:42,634 --> 01:12:44,834
Speaker 11: it's just you know, on ourselves to you know, whether

1565
01:12:44,874 --> 01:12:46,714
Speaker 11: it's you know, fight the extra, you know, go the extra,

1566
01:12:47,074 --> 01:12:50,674
Speaker 11: go the extra effort, or maybe uh some little things

1567
01:12:50,714 --> 01:12:52,234
Speaker 11: here or there. But I think we moved them all well.

1568
01:12:52,274 --> 01:12:55,034
Speaker 11: And those guys you know, put some good film on tape.

1569
01:12:55,074 --> 01:12:56,194
Speaker 11: So I think, you know, the end the game. We

1570
01:12:56,274 --> 01:12:57,914
Speaker 11: had a chance there and put that on myself to

1571
01:12:58,074 --> 01:12:59,754
Speaker 11: you know, go, you know, make a play down down

1572
01:12:59,834 --> 01:13:01,674
Speaker 11: the stretch, and I got the ball in my hands

1573
01:13:01,714 --> 01:13:03,153
Speaker 11: to win the game. You know, you want that scenario.

1574
01:13:03,274 --> 01:13:05,714
Speaker 11: So I think we're right there. And like I said,

1575
01:13:05,714 --> 01:13:07,474
Speaker 11: it's more successful in the red zone. I think, you know,

1576
01:13:07,514 --> 01:13:09,634
Speaker 11: we've been striving on that and and focusing on that.

1577
01:13:09,794 --> 01:13:11,994
Speaker 11: So I think maybe in red zone day this week

1578
01:13:12,114 --> 01:13:14,674
Speaker 11: or just in general, just you know, study it more

1579
01:13:14,714 --> 01:13:17,674
Speaker 11: and kind of put some more effort to trink.

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01:13:17,874 --> 01:13:20,354
Speaker 5: You see, you can play last time the Hitchers played

1581
01:13:20,394 --> 01:13:20,954
Speaker 5: the golfense.

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01:13:20,994 --> 01:13:22,034
Speaker 15: Just what do you remember.

1583
01:13:21,754 --> 01:13:23,434
Speaker 3: About that gam you know, when where did you learn?

1584
01:13:23,514 --> 01:13:24,954
Speaker 10: You know, we'll sort of watching the sound.

1585
01:13:25,714 --> 01:13:27,594
Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, I think they fly around, you know,

1586
01:13:27,594 --> 01:13:30,594
Speaker 11: they get some some uh you know, I think if

1587
01:13:30,754 --> 01:13:32,354
Speaker 11: every team who plays got a good good up front.

1588
01:13:32,394 --> 01:13:34,554
Speaker 11: You know, they're good up front. You know, your class

1589
01:13:34,594 --> 01:13:37,154
Speaker 11: Campbell is still making plays and they said, he's you know,

1590
01:13:37,154 --> 01:13:38,874
Speaker 11: one of the nicest dudents in the league. But they're

1591
01:13:38,874 --> 01:13:40,914
Speaker 11: still up there trying to take my head off. I'm sure.

1592
01:13:40,954 --> 01:13:43,794
Speaker 11: So they're good. In the back end. They got some

1593
01:13:43,834 --> 01:13:45,834
Speaker 11: better guys that have played a long time in this

1594
01:13:45,914 --> 01:13:48,674
Speaker 11: league and are good players and same thing really in

1595
01:13:48,674 --> 01:13:51,354
Speaker 11: the linebacker course, so we gotta we got a tall task.

1596
01:13:51,474 --> 01:13:54,794
Speaker 11: But uh, I think starts with running the football. I

1597
01:13:54,794 --> 01:13:56,394
Speaker 11: think every week you'll be able to run the football

1598
01:13:56,394 --> 01:13:58,234
Speaker 11: and they're gonna make up some looks. So just taking

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01:13:58,274 --> 01:14:00,434
Speaker 11: what they give me and UH just be smart, you know,

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01:14:00,674 --> 01:14:01,554
Speaker 11: protecting the football.

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01:14:01,794 --> 01:14:05,674
Speaker 15: When he comes to leadership, leadership skills specifically to.

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01:14:08,674 --> 01:14:14,714
Speaker 11: An important leader for uh, it's a good question. Important

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01:14:14,754 --> 01:14:16,034
Speaker 11: leader for me in my lifetime.

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01:14:18,794 --> 01:14:19,034
Speaker 3: Coach.

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01:14:20,394 --> 01:14:22,954
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean I was being around sports. I just watching,

1606
01:14:23,194 --> 01:14:25,834
Speaker 11: I say my dad, I'm just watching them now. And

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01:14:25,834 --> 01:14:27,714
Speaker 11: a leader in the household, but a leader you know

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01:14:27,754 --> 01:14:29,634
Speaker 11: in sports in gymeral he's always you know coaching us,

1609
01:14:30,114 --> 01:14:32,274
Speaker 11: you know, growing up. And I think just the way

1610
01:14:32,914 --> 01:14:35,154
Speaker 11: that he approached you know, you know, forcing me to

1611
01:14:35,954 --> 01:14:37,474
Speaker 11: as a young age to get in the huddle and

1612
01:14:37,634 --> 01:14:39,194
Speaker 11: say something to the team or break the team down

1613
01:14:39,194 --> 01:14:40,394
Speaker 11: a little things at a young age, I think my

1614
01:14:40,474 --> 01:14:43,154
Speaker 11: dad kind of introduced me some things because he played,

1615
01:14:43,674 --> 01:14:46,674
Speaker 11: Uh played in a short shorts doun in the NFL

1616
01:14:46,754 --> 01:14:49,314
Speaker 11: for a little bit. I was with Tampa Bay for

1617
01:14:49,314 --> 01:14:51,754
Speaker 11: for a year. But playing in college and playing at

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01:14:51,754 --> 01:14:53,634
Speaker 11: a high level. He kind of was introduced and was

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01:14:53,634 --> 01:14:56,714
Speaker 11: able to introduce, you know, to his boys about how

1620
01:14:56,754 --> 01:14:58,394
Speaker 11: to lead and what it takes and you know, what

1621
01:14:58,474 --> 01:15:00,554
Speaker 11: you need and kind of what comes of it.

1622
01:15:00,874 --> 01:15:02,674
Speaker 12: You've gotten a lot of praise for your field vision,

1623
01:15:02,714 --> 01:15:05,274
Speaker 12: your processing. So I'm curious from your perspective, when you're

1624
01:15:05,314 --> 01:15:07,514
Speaker 12: reading a defense in your head, is it, oh, er

1625
01:15:07,554 --> 01:15:09,634
Speaker 12: cover two or cover three? Are you just reading space

1626
01:15:09,634 --> 01:15:11,634
Speaker 12: and leverage or how are you really seeing the defense

1627
01:15:11,714 --> 01:15:12,834
Speaker 12: and like going through your head?

1628
01:15:13,034 --> 01:15:15,794
Speaker 11: Yeah, this kind of comes natural. I think you always

1629
01:15:15,794 --> 01:15:17,234
Speaker 11: try to check, you know, the safety structure. I think

1630
01:15:17,234 --> 01:15:19,354
Speaker 11: that helps any type of quarterback. But uh, I think

1631
01:15:19,514 --> 01:15:21,434
Speaker 11: kind of the best thing is just just spatial reasoning,

1632
01:15:21,514 --> 01:15:23,754
Speaker 11: like you said, seeing the space or seeing the guy,

1633
01:15:23,834 --> 01:15:26,194
Speaker 11: and that also comes with you know, feeling the guy out,

1634
01:15:26,834 --> 01:15:28,674
Speaker 11: you know pause, but uh, just to kind of see

1635
01:15:28,794 --> 01:15:31,154
Speaker 11: how the rally's kind of run. And I think that

1636
01:15:31,194 --> 01:15:32,834
Speaker 11: comes with the kind of time, Hey, you know, hunter

1637
01:15:32,874 --> 01:15:35,474
Speaker 11: maybe doing this against this coverage or maybe versus man.

1638
01:15:35,594 --> 01:15:37,794
Speaker 11: So they kind of just feeling out, you kind of

1639
01:15:37,834 --> 01:15:39,914
Speaker 11: the guys and and seeing how they run routes for

1640
01:15:39,954 --> 01:15:42,314
Speaker 11: a different you know, man and zone, and also just

1641
01:15:42,474 --> 01:15:44,074
Speaker 11: getting reps at it. That's the biggest thing.

1642
01:15:44,394 --> 01:15:47,314
Speaker 9: How much more complex is the post snap stuff at

1643
01:15:47,314 --> 01:15:50,113
Speaker 9: this level compared to what you saw in North Carolina.

1644
01:15:50,394 --> 01:15:51,874
Speaker 15: How has that kind of been coming.

1645
01:15:51,674 --> 01:15:52,274
Speaker 3: To the six?

1646
01:15:52,714 --> 01:15:54,554
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think these coordinators they try to do the

1647
01:15:55,034 --> 01:15:56,394
Speaker 11: you know, the kind of the same type of stuff

1648
01:15:56,434 --> 01:15:58,274
Speaker 11: post snap, and I think just the guys up front,

1649
01:15:58,314 --> 01:16:00,314
Speaker 11: you know, make it a little tougher post snap in

1650
01:16:00,314 --> 01:16:01,914
Speaker 11: the NFL, you know, I think you feel a little

1651
01:16:01,914 --> 01:16:03,874
Speaker 11: more pressure for a little more heat. And obviously the

1652
01:16:03,874 --> 01:16:06,154
Speaker 11: guys in the back end are better tighter coverage, So

1653
01:16:06,194 --> 01:16:07,874
Speaker 11: I think, you know, kind of the same type stuff

1654
01:16:07,874 --> 01:16:10,394
Speaker 11: of the kind of fire zones, boot zones and you know,

1655
01:16:10,434 --> 01:16:12,794
Speaker 11: bringing five, bringing six, or you know, dropping guys out.

1656
01:16:12,794 --> 01:16:15,554
Speaker 11: I think there's the amount of the tighter windows and

1657
01:16:15,634 --> 01:16:18,474
Speaker 11: maybe the kind of a little more heat you feel fronts.

1658
01:16:18,034 --> 01:16:20,634
Speaker 16: Just naturally as talented as you are, you know, strong arm,

1659
01:16:20,834 --> 01:16:23,474
Speaker 16: you can obviously run around. How have you learned the

1660
01:16:23,514 --> 01:16:27,034
Speaker 16: discipline of think plays go or not trying to force them?

1661
01:16:27,114 --> 01:16:29,914
Speaker 16: Understanding sometimes those leads and turnovers or sacks I've been

1662
01:16:29,914 --> 01:16:30,874
Speaker 16: living to see another day.

1663
01:16:30,954 --> 01:16:31,794
Speaker 7: Sometimes the best play.

1664
01:16:31,954 --> 01:16:33,674
Speaker 11: Yeah, I gotta do a better better job of that.

1665
01:16:33,754 --> 01:16:35,354
Speaker 11: I think you mentioned it. You know kind of may

1666
01:16:35,394 --> 01:16:36,954
Speaker 11: sometimes throw away as the kind of the best player

1667
01:16:37,314 --> 01:16:39,394
Speaker 11: even incompletion. I think at times you saw you go,

1668
01:16:39,474 --> 01:16:41,274
Speaker 11: we do a great job of that of hey, just

1669
01:16:41,314 --> 01:16:43,754
Speaker 11: throwing in the dirt or you know, even taking a

1670
01:16:43,754 --> 01:16:45,674
Speaker 11: short sack is what we talk about in the quarterback room.

1671
01:16:45,714 --> 01:16:47,274
Speaker 11: I think, you know, t C does a great job

1672
01:16:47,274 --> 01:16:49,634
Speaker 11: of you know, those little things and a little reminders

1673
01:16:49,634 --> 01:16:51,474
Speaker 11: that can go a long way of you know, knowing

1674
01:16:51,474 --> 01:16:54,434
Speaker 11: when to do things situationally. And I talked about the

1675
01:16:54,434 --> 01:16:56,114
Speaker 11: one in Tennessee where you know, it's a third down

1676
01:16:56,154 --> 01:16:57,754
Speaker 11: and we're up midfield, we got a chance to you know,

1677
01:16:57,794 --> 01:16:59,914
Speaker 11: pin them deep on a punt and you know, you know,

1678
01:16:59,914 --> 01:17:02,634
Speaker 11: throw interception and causes you know, a short field for

1679
01:17:02,674 --> 01:17:04,314
Speaker 11: the defense and just little things like that. You kind

1680
01:17:04,314 --> 01:17:06,874
Speaker 11: of grow and learn and you'll try to replicate those

1681
01:17:06,874 --> 01:17:11,074
Speaker 11: mistakes like yeah, tough. It Ha's tough really to in

1682
01:17:11,154 --> 01:17:13,354
Speaker 11: practice to kind of you kind of just running plays

1683
01:17:13,354 --> 01:17:15,274
Speaker 11: on hey, this is first and second down plays and

1684
01:17:15,314 --> 01:17:16,994
Speaker 11: I don't think you really get the situational part. I

1685
01:17:17,034 --> 01:17:19,114
Speaker 11: think that's why it's big for you have an area

1686
01:17:19,154 --> 01:17:20,834
Speaker 11: with a VP and TC that I think they're so

1687
01:17:20,874 --> 01:17:23,154
Speaker 11: great with so many different experiences of talking through hey,

1688
01:17:24,074 --> 01:17:26,794
Speaker 11: this is what we do and this is what you

1689
01:17:26,834 --> 01:17:28,474
Speaker 11: know we want you to do, or this is probably

1690
01:17:28,514 --> 01:17:30,594
Speaker 11: the best thing for for our for our football team

1691
01:17:30,594 --> 01:17:32,794
Speaker 11: at this this standpoint, Jacoby is great in the game.

1692
01:17:32,874 --> 01:17:34,874
Speaker 11: Reminded me, hey, you know, it's not be bad here

1693
01:17:34,874 --> 01:17:36,754
Speaker 11: to think this or little things like that.

1694
01:17:36,954 --> 01:17:38,874
Speaker 3: Great. Why do you feel back here?

1695
01:17:38,994 --> 01:17:41,954
Speaker 8: Why do you feel your team has has done pretty

1696
01:17:41,954 --> 01:17:45,034
Speaker 8: well offensively if the starts at games recently, you've been

1697
01:17:45,114 --> 01:17:48,034
Speaker 8: very good in the first quarter at least generating points

1698
01:17:48,074 --> 01:17:49,994
Speaker 8: on most of the drives in the last few games.

1699
01:17:50,034 --> 01:17:51,994
Speaker 10: Why is that good?

1700
01:17:52,634 --> 01:17:54,354
Speaker 11: I think it's credit to a VP and the guys

1701
01:17:54,394 --> 01:17:57,314
Speaker 11: have known the first initial calls. I think we study

1702
01:17:57,354 --> 01:18:00,434
Speaker 11: that hard on Friday and Saturday of knowing, hey, this

1703
01:18:00,514 --> 01:18:02,074
Speaker 11: is the you know, the first places you know, coming

1704
01:18:02,114 --> 01:18:03,634
Speaker 11: out of the of the ball game, and this is

1705
01:18:03,674 --> 01:18:05,474
Speaker 11: what we're expecting. And I think the guys have have

1706
01:18:05,594 --> 01:18:08,954
Speaker 11: really responded well. And I think early on in the year,

1707
01:18:08,994 --> 01:18:11,354
Speaker 11: I think guys kind of lost focus on those you know,

1708
01:18:11,354 --> 01:18:14,034
Speaker 11: whether first ten or fifteen or twenty plays, and then

1709
01:18:14,074 --> 01:18:16,154
Speaker 11: we had them up on the call shooting. You know,

1710
01:18:16,194 --> 01:18:18,594
Speaker 11: guys kind of you know what they're expecting. Maybe or

1711
01:18:18,994 --> 01:18:20,794
Speaker 11: sometimes you know, it doesn't really all come off of

1712
01:18:21,154 --> 01:18:22,514
Speaker 11: the play sheet, but I think the guys have done

1713
01:18:22,514 --> 01:18:24,674
Speaker 11: a good job of you know, studying that up and

1714
01:18:24,674 --> 01:18:26,234
Speaker 11: and really focus it on it.

1715
01:18:26,514 --> 01:18:29,434
Speaker 9: When you change your arm, you're rolling right and you

1716
01:18:29,594 --> 01:18:32,194
Speaker 9: dropped outside, don't you're going to the left side by

1717
01:18:32,674 --> 01:18:35,354
Speaker 9: you switch hands? Is that a conscious act?

1718
01:18:35,514 --> 01:18:36,354
Speaker 12: Is that instinctive?

1719
01:18:37,674 --> 01:18:40,234
Speaker 11: Where has that ability to do that and deliver the

1720
01:18:40,274 --> 01:18:44,314
Speaker 11: ball on? Talking out of time from Yeah, just instinctive really,

1721
01:18:44,394 --> 01:18:46,874
Speaker 11: I think you know some of it probably like you know,

1722
01:18:46,874 --> 01:18:48,394
Speaker 11: what is he doing out there a little bit, you know,

1723
01:18:48,474 --> 01:18:50,754
Speaker 11: trying to throw away passes and little stuff like that.

1724
01:18:50,834 --> 01:18:53,914
Speaker 11: That's kind of just instinctive. I think just from growing up,

1725
01:18:55,074 --> 01:18:56,754
Speaker 11: you know, playing with his ball in the backyard or

1726
01:18:57,154 --> 01:18:59,554
Speaker 11: little things just playing different sports like I said, change

1727
01:18:59,594 --> 01:19:03,234
Speaker 11: it our angle and you know, playing dodgeball or you know,

1728
01:19:03,234 --> 01:19:06,274
Speaker 11: who knows what. So I think just something just comes instinctively.

1729
01:19:06,274 --> 01:19:07,234
Speaker 11: I'm just out there playing ball.

1730
01:19:07,474 --> 01:19:07,954
Speaker 3: You're kind of.

1731
01:19:07,914 --> 01:19:09,154
Speaker 5: Adding on to my earlier question.

1732
01:19:09,354 --> 01:19:11,394
Speaker 12: On a podcast, I think Kyle Wrdolf mentioned how when

1733
01:19:11,434 --> 01:19:13,354
Speaker 12: he was playing with Brady he was kind of different

1734
01:19:13,354 --> 01:19:15,154
Speaker 12: from the quarterbacks because instead of you know, running to

1735
01:19:15,234 --> 01:19:17,434
Speaker 12: a specific depth you'd say, hey, if you're in space,

1736
01:19:17,514 --> 01:19:19,434
Speaker 12: give me your eyes so you're available. Is that kind

1737
01:19:19,474 --> 01:19:21,194
Speaker 12: of how you process or as a young guy, you're

1738
01:19:21,234 --> 01:19:23,074
Speaker 12: trying to stick more to the details, or is there

1739
01:19:23,074 --> 01:19:23,834
Speaker 12: some kind of balance.

1740
01:19:24,314 --> 01:19:26,314
Speaker 11: That's what I'm telling Hunter. You're hunting those guys down

1741
01:19:26,354 --> 01:19:27,914
Speaker 11: the field. I think, you know, sometimes you're just going

1742
01:19:27,954 --> 01:19:30,194
Speaker 11: out there and playing football. I think sometimes you know,

1743
01:19:30,274 --> 01:19:32,594
Speaker 11: these guys get into you're running the route that's on

1744
01:19:32,634 --> 01:19:35,194
Speaker 11: the you know, the sheet of paper or at this depth.

1745
01:19:35,234 --> 01:19:36,714
Speaker 11: I think at some point, you know, just turns into

1746
01:19:36,754 --> 01:19:38,794
Speaker 11: playing ball making plays. So I think we're trying to

1747
01:19:38,994 --> 01:19:40,554
Speaker 11: you'll figure that out a little bit. I think Hunter

1748
01:19:40,594 --> 01:19:41,914
Speaker 11: and those guys are starting to see it. You know,

1749
01:19:41,914 --> 01:19:44,194
Speaker 11: I don't think last week on the play that coming

1750
01:19:44,234 --> 01:19:45,794
Speaker 11: back on a penalty, you know what Hunter did it

1751
01:19:45,914 --> 01:19:47,594
Speaker 11: kind of sitting in the zone and little stuff like that.

1752
01:19:47,634 --> 01:19:49,474
Speaker 11: I think you're gonna start to see a lot of

1753
01:19:49,994 --> 01:19:52,434
Speaker 11: a lot of strides in that area and some stuff that,

1754
01:19:52,594 --> 01:19:55,634
Speaker 11: you know, with different different guys moving around and kind

1755
01:19:55,634 --> 01:19:57,354
Speaker 11: of get comfortable in their spot, you can see some

1756
01:19:57,434 --> 01:19:59,994
Speaker 11: kind of some evolution of kind of different things that

1757
01:19:59,994 --> 01:20:03,834
Speaker 11: will help us make some more plays.

1758
01:20:03,954 --> 01:20:07,634
Speaker 6: I'm very reliable just what about him has made him

1759
01:20:07,834 --> 01:20:10,554
Speaker 6: h so easy for you to go to him anymore.

1760
01:20:11,114 --> 01:20:14,074
Speaker 11: Yeah, first off, I think he scored like thirty or

1761
01:20:14,114 --> 01:20:16,594
Speaker 11: forty touchdowns in this league, so it's had a lot

1762
01:20:16,594 --> 01:20:19,674
Speaker 11: of success. And he's done it with a guy you know,

1763
01:20:19,674 --> 01:20:24,074
Speaker 11: with Philip in San Diego who or quote unquote when

1764
01:20:24,234 --> 01:20:26,154
Speaker 11: then he was la with w some guys that have

1765
01:20:26,154 --> 01:20:28,074
Speaker 11: done at a high level. And he's seen it out

1766
01:20:28,074 --> 01:20:30,154
Speaker 11: a lot of different looks, and he helps with a

1767
01:20:30,194 --> 01:20:31,994
Speaker 11: line of guys up in the in the huddle, and

1768
01:20:32,234 --> 01:20:34,634
Speaker 11: he's just a true VET and you know, one of

1769
01:20:34,674 --> 01:20:36,394
Speaker 11: the best players on football teams. I'm trying to get

1770
01:20:36,434 --> 01:20:37,314
Speaker 11: in football.

1771
01:20:38,114 --> 01:20:41,754
Speaker 9: That you said sometimes just going out there and playing football,

1772
01:20:41,714 --> 01:20:43,674
Speaker 9: how would you learn that as you're going about your

1773
01:20:43,794 --> 01:20:47,434
Speaker 9: NFL career, Start that even though it's the most complicated

1774
01:20:47,434 --> 01:20:49,794
Speaker 9: game with the highest level that he sometimes it comes

1775
01:20:49,874 --> 01:20:51,113
Speaker 9: out is simply playing.

1776
01:20:50,914 --> 01:20:52,834
Speaker 11: For Yeah, don't lose it. I think, you know, the

1777
01:20:52,874 --> 01:20:56,434
Speaker 11: big thing about you know, football is that I think,

1778
01:20:56,594 --> 01:20:58,354
Speaker 11: you know, football is easy, and people are complicated, and

1779
01:20:58,354 --> 01:21:00,274
Speaker 11: you know, people try to complicate it, and I think

1780
01:21:00,314 --> 01:21:01,314
Speaker 11: the best thing to do at the end of the

1781
01:21:01,354 --> 01:21:03,354
Speaker 11: day is simplified and try to make a simple and

1782
01:21:03,354 --> 01:21:04,834
Speaker 11: be on the same page. I think we're learning that

1783
01:21:04,874 --> 01:21:07,394
Speaker 11: and kind of feeling our way through that. So there's

1784
01:21:07,394 --> 01:21:09,674
Speaker 11: probably some things that I've done, you know, in this

1785
01:21:09,714 --> 01:21:12,194
Speaker 11: season that it was probably out of the ordinary or

1786
01:21:12,394 --> 01:21:14,394
Speaker 11: maybe you know, I'm not trying to think this guy

1787
01:21:14,434 --> 01:21:16,274
Speaker 11: may do something that ended up being in a negative play,

1788
01:21:16,314 --> 01:21:18,274
Speaker 11: but I think down the roads end up leading to,

1789
01:21:18,394 --> 01:21:19,514
Speaker 11: you know, some bigger plays for us.

1790
01:21:20,714 --> 01:21:22,794
Speaker 16: He sees a lot of similarities between you and a

1791
01:21:22,874 --> 01:21:25,754
Speaker 16: young Herbert. Has he ever talked to you about those

1792
01:21:25,794 --> 01:21:26,634
Speaker 16: days and playing with us?

1793
01:21:28,714 --> 01:21:30,754
Speaker 11: Yeah, I asked Hunter, and I asked a bunch of questions.

1794
01:21:30,794 --> 01:21:32,274
Speaker 11: I think, you know, Hunters of you know, wealth, the

1795
01:21:32,314 --> 01:21:34,834
Speaker 11: knowledge him and Jacoby and and Hooper and and David

1796
01:21:34,874 --> 01:21:36,554
Speaker 11: and guys like that that are just on the offense

1797
01:21:36,714 --> 01:21:39,554
Speaker 11: a veteran's side. You know, he always talks about Herbert

1798
01:21:39,554 --> 01:21:42,794
Speaker 11: re membories first started. I think, you know, Hunter said

1799
01:21:42,794 --> 01:21:44,554
Speaker 11: he was real nervous coming out there in the huddle,

1800
01:21:44,594 --> 01:21:47,034
Speaker 11: and you know, maybe through his first one in the stands,

1801
01:21:47,074 --> 01:21:48,594
Speaker 11: kind of like I did in my first my first

1802
01:21:48,594 --> 01:21:51,314
Speaker 11: one against the Texans. So uh, no, other than that,

1803
01:21:51,354 --> 01:21:53,794
Speaker 11: I think it just his arm down and you know,

1804
01:21:53,834 --> 01:21:55,354
Speaker 11: he's a great player in this league. But I think

1805
01:21:55,394 --> 01:21:57,754
Speaker 11: Hunter is just you know, a classic example of me

1806
01:21:57,834 --> 01:22:00,674
Speaker 11: trying to soak up information and try to feed you

1807
01:22:00,754 --> 01:22:02,314
Speaker 11: one of our best players football.

1808
01:22:02,994 --> 01:23:04,314
Speaker 15: Thank you, and now great moments in.

1809
01:23:06,634 --> 01:23:07,034
Speaker 10: History.

1810
01:23:07,194 --> 01:23:10,194
Speaker 5: Basically it comes down to luck, Like Lou Williams the

1811
01:23:10,234 --> 01:23:13,474
Speaker 5: Strip Club and he still didn't get it. But it's

1812
01:23:13,474 --> 01:23:15,834
Speaker 5: how to get the wings. That's exactly my point. And

1813
01:23:15,834 --> 01:23:18,634
Speaker 5: then you look at like strip club. I'm just not

1814
01:23:18,634 --> 01:23:20,834
Speaker 5: going to go and say, well, this team didn't get

1815
01:23:20,834 --> 01:23:23,154
Speaker 5: any so I got to give them credit for it. No,

1816
01:23:23,354 --> 01:23:24,914
Speaker 5: the luck of the draw.

1817
01:23:25,074 --> 01:23:27,074
Speaker 3: You know they're gonna be like, oh, this team did this,

1818
01:23:27,074 --> 01:23:28,034
Speaker 3: this this.

1819
01:23:27,794 --> 01:23:29,994
Speaker 5: Because you know, but you know, no teams are gonna

1820
01:23:29,994 --> 01:23:34,194
Speaker 5: be like just recklessly just as usual all day. I

1821
01:23:34,234 --> 01:23:36,354
Speaker 5: mean if when the Giants rented that boat down in

1822
01:23:36,354 --> 01:23:40,634
Speaker 5: Miami a couple of years ago, or the Vikings, remember

1823
01:23:40,274 --> 01:23:44,954
Speaker 5: the Vikings, Oh my god, it's like talking about like

1824
01:23:45,074 --> 01:23:46,834
Speaker 5: sailing around in a peachrey dish.

1825
01:23:46,874 --> 01:23:49,314
Speaker 1: So like, if you're gonna go to a strip club,

1826
01:23:49,474 --> 01:23:51,514
Speaker 1: probably go to the one that Lou Williams went to

1827
01:23:51,594 --> 01:23:53,274
Speaker 1: in Atlanta.

1828
01:23:54,114 --> 01:23:56,874
Speaker 5: And good and good wings, great wings, good wings from

1829
01:23:56,874 --> 01:23:57,954
Speaker 5: all reputations.

1830
01:23:58,034 --> 01:23:59,794
Speaker 3: Take your temperature before you walk in.

1831
01:24:00,074 --> 01:24:03,834
Speaker 4: You know, did the ladies wear masks.

1832
01:24:04,034 --> 01:24:12,114
Speaker 15: Where the club? Oh, I see what you're saying. While Yeah,

1833
01:24:12,954 --> 01:24:15,194
Speaker 15: that's another great moment from.

1834
01:24:17,274 --> 01:24:20,834
Speaker 3: All right back here on Patriot's Unfiltered, It's deuced Paul myself,

1835
01:24:20,954 --> 01:24:24,434
Speaker 3: Matt nabooth Evan should be by any moment now right

1836
01:24:24,474 --> 01:24:28,114
Speaker 3: because practice is wrapping up. Yeah a little bit. Yeah,

1837
01:24:28,114 --> 01:24:31,394
Speaker 3: we're gonna get rain tomorrow and we need it.

1838
01:24:31,434 --> 01:24:33,234
Speaker 10: They said we do need it conditions.

1839
01:24:33,314 --> 01:24:35,794
Speaker 3: I heard that if it does rain, which I guess

1840
01:24:35,794 --> 01:24:38,594
Speaker 3: it's pretty much definite, they're gonna move practice into the

1841
01:24:38,634 --> 01:24:40,634
Speaker 3: bowl the bowls.

1842
01:24:40,714 --> 01:24:42,114
Speaker 5: Oh, it's going to rain heavy.

1843
01:24:42,274 --> 01:24:45,034
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh interesting, So they're gonna go into.

1844
01:24:44,874 --> 01:24:47,314
Speaker 5: The good because I have a lot of places I

1845
01:24:47,354 --> 01:24:47,914
Speaker 5: need to be quick.

1846
01:24:47,954 --> 01:24:49,034
Speaker 3: Oh it's going to rain all weekend.

1847
01:24:49,114 --> 01:24:51,354
Speaker 5: Paul, I don't care. Well, I mean I do care

1848
01:24:51,394 --> 01:24:53,994
Speaker 5: about that, but like tomorrow, I have to do some things.

1849
01:24:54,074 --> 01:24:56,394
Speaker 5: And they're saying, got a bank to go to fel

1850
01:24:56,434 --> 01:24:58,554
Speaker 5: Grint and for those of you that listened, felgrim Mas

1851
01:24:58,554 --> 01:25:02,274
Speaker 5: delayed by a day Sunshine dot com on on Thursday

1852
01:25:02,874 --> 01:25:06,914
Speaker 5: this week little charity event that the my station is

1853
01:25:07,034 --> 01:25:09,514
Speaker 5: taking part in and paddles.

1854
01:25:09,594 --> 01:25:13,954
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's gonna rain all weekend in a drenching rain,

1855
01:25:14,274 --> 01:25:15,234
Speaker 3: so much needed.

1856
01:25:15,714 --> 01:25:18,354
Speaker 5: Yeah, So it was funny because the you know the

1857
01:25:18,354 --> 01:25:21,314
Speaker 5: wildfires that you know, they're really bad up my area.

1858
01:25:21,354 --> 01:25:23,674
Speaker 5: I don't know, like Middleton and Land, like they've been.

1859
01:25:23,634 --> 01:25:24,674
Speaker 3: All the forest up there.

1860
01:25:24,994 --> 01:25:28,114
Speaker 5: They been really bad. And I would say over the

1861
01:25:28,114 --> 01:25:32,674
Speaker 5: weekend and to the beginning even Monday, didn't really notice

1862
01:25:32,714 --> 01:25:34,594
Speaker 5: it as much. Today when I walked out of my house,

1863
01:25:34,634 --> 01:25:37,194
Speaker 5: it was overwhelming, Like you could see the haze. You

1864
01:25:37,194 --> 01:25:39,954
Speaker 5: could smell it really, you know, almost like someone had

1865
01:25:39,954 --> 01:25:43,074
Speaker 5: a fire pit going right next door. Yeah, and so

1866
01:25:43,354 --> 01:25:46,874
Speaker 5: hopefully we will get that drenching rain to sort of squash.

1867
01:25:46,594 --> 01:25:47,594
Speaker 10: The rest of that.

1868
01:25:47,914 --> 01:25:51,114
Speaker 5: I know they're really fighting it, the pab fires. I

1869
01:25:51,154 --> 01:25:56,154
Speaker 5: mean it's been bad, yeah, Middleton, Land, Peabty, Danvers, like

1870
01:25:56,194 --> 01:25:56,674
Speaker 5: the whole air.

1871
01:25:56,714 --> 01:25:59,954
Speaker 3: It's just because the dryness no funny business.

1872
01:26:00,034 --> 01:26:02,874
Speaker 5: Oh, I mean, who knows, but I assume it's for

1873
01:26:02,914 --> 01:26:05,034
Speaker 5: the dry the dry conditions.

1874
01:26:04,594 --> 01:26:08,634
Speaker 3: Well, it makes it makes it worse. Yeah, the leaves

1875
01:26:08,674 --> 01:26:11,514
Speaker 3: are down and they're crinkling, you know, they're like paper.

1876
01:26:12,674 --> 01:26:13,314
Speaker 4: Tinder box.

1877
01:26:13,914 --> 01:26:15,914
Speaker 5: How's your leave situation, Freddy? You got that thing?

1878
01:26:15,994 --> 01:26:18,834
Speaker 3: Well, I got my company that does the lawnmowing they

1879
01:26:18,874 --> 01:26:21,834
Speaker 3: come by once a week company and they take care

1880
01:26:21,874 --> 01:26:23,394
Speaker 3: of the leaves. So they've been keeping up with it.

1881
01:26:23,394 --> 01:26:25,114
Speaker 5: Who was the guy last week that said fried me

1882
01:26:25,434 --> 01:26:30,674
Speaker 5: being rich, so my company, my company comes care of Well.

1883
01:26:30,794 --> 01:26:33,154
Speaker 3: Somebody email and said that what we learned yesterday that

1884
01:26:33,314 --> 01:26:34,994
Speaker 3: is Fred's too good for Marshalls.

1885
01:26:35,594 --> 01:26:40,074
Speaker 5: It's not so much.

1886
01:26:38,914 --> 01:26:40,474
Speaker 3: But it's not so much. I'm too good for it.

1887
01:26:40,514 --> 01:26:42,154
Speaker 3: You get what you paid. I don't buy a lot

1888
01:26:42,154 --> 01:26:43,834
Speaker 3: of clothes. You get what you so when I do

1889
01:26:43,954 --> 01:26:47,114
Speaker 3: buy clothes, I want it to last. And I'm telling

1890
01:26:47,154 --> 01:26:50,834
Speaker 3: you people that the line you could buy Polo, the

1891
01:26:50,874 --> 01:26:53,754
Speaker 3: brand Polo, and the Polo that you buy in Marshalls

1892
01:26:53,874 --> 01:26:56,474
Speaker 3: is not the same Polo that you buy in the

1893
01:26:56,474 --> 01:27:00,234
Speaker 3: the big department stores. It's a different different, you know.

1894
01:27:00,954 --> 01:27:02,954
Speaker 5: And I would agree with Freddy. I'm not. It's not

1895
01:27:03,034 --> 01:27:05,794
Speaker 5: that we're above it, but you do. You have to

1896
01:27:05,834 --> 01:27:08,514
Speaker 5: know what you're getting. And I've shopped at Marshals before.

1897
01:27:08,514 --> 01:27:11,074
Speaker 5: I've gotten stuff at you know, when when I have something,

1898
01:27:11,114 --> 01:27:15,994
Speaker 5: I don't necessarily want to spend a lot of money

1899
01:27:16,834 --> 01:27:18,674
Speaker 5: stuff like that, But you know who cares what the

1900
01:27:18,754 --> 01:27:19,354
Speaker 5: quality is?

1901
01:27:19,474 --> 01:27:19,594
Speaker 11: Right?

1902
01:27:19,634 --> 01:27:20,874
Speaker 5: You know, like they're like when you get a couple

1903
01:27:20,914 --> 01:27:22,714
Speaker 5: of T shirts that I'm going to be, you know,

1904
01:27:22,794 --> 01:27:24,194
Speaker 5: doing yard work in or whatever.

1905
01:27:24,274 --> 01:27:27,554
Speaker 3: You know, I'm not a clothes or horse or what horse,

1906
01:27:27,634 --> 01:27:29,674
Speaker 3: but horse I used to be. You know. It's funny,

1907
01:27:29,714 --> 01:27:31,954
Speaker 3: oh you back in the day.

1908
01:27:32,474 --> 01:27:35,074
Speaker 4: Yeah, now that I think, because I have bought Marsh

1909
01:27:35,194 --> 01:27:37,954
Speaker 4: is always good for like Patriots sweatshirts. But it is

1910
01:27:38,034 --> 01:27:44,674
Speaker 4: you're right because they are not defective versions of.

1911
01:27:42,514 --> 01:27:47,514
Speaker 5: The logos over here, you know, like you get like

1912
01:27:47,554 --> 01:27:50,274
Speaker 5: a hoodie and like it doesn't quite but line up

1913
01:27:50,594 --> 01:27:50,834
Speaker 5: like that.

1914
01:27:50,954 --> 01:27:53,874
Speaker 3: But they also the brands also make a cheaper line

1915
01:27:53,914 --> 01:27:56,394
Speaker 3: for these discount department stores.

1916
01:27:56,474 --> 01:27:59,554
Speaker 5: Yeah, it used to be Kmart to back they would have.

1917
01:27:59,594 --> 01:28:01,154
Speaker 3: I worked at Kmar when I was in high school.

1918
01:28:01,274 --> 01:28:04,154
Speaker 4: I totally agree with that philosophy on shoes, like if

1919
01:28:04,154 --> 01:28:06,954
Speaker 4: you're gonna buy, don't buy cheap crappy shoes, Like buy

1920
01:28:06,954 --> 01:28:07,434
Speaker 4: good shoes.

1921
01:28:08,754 --> 01:28:11,314
Speaker 5: Like I totally agree, better for your feet.

1922
01:28:11,554 --> 01:28:13,754
Speaker 3: So, like, I like, if I bought a lot of clothes,

1923
01:28:13,754 --> 01:28:15,314
Speaker 3: if I was one of those people that always had

1924
01:28:15,354 --> 01:28:18,874
Speaker 3: to be seen in new stuff, i'd go to Yeah,

1925
01:28:18,914 --> 01:28:21,554
Speaker 3: I go to those places because I couldn't afford to

1926
01:28:21,634 --> 01:28:24,234
Speaker 3: buy the top. But I don't buy a lot of stuff.

1927
01:28:24,234 --> 01:28:26,354
Speaker 3: So when I do. I like, so, if you buy.

1928
01:28:26,234 --> 01:28:30,954
Speaker 5: Your fancy euro sweater at Marshalls, yeah, that probably already

1929
01:28:30,954 --> 01:28:34,074
Speaker 5: would be like where it worn out and yeah ruined.

1930
01:28:34,074 --> 01:28:35,754
Speaker 3: I've had this for two years now. Yeah.

1931
01:28:37,194 --> 01:28:39,154
Speaker 10: Yeah, that's why I cost six hundred dollars.

1932
01:28:39,554 --> 01:28:44,114
Speaker 5: Oh it doesn't cost minimum, Come on minimum. He had

1933
01:28:44,154 --> 01:28:46,314
Speaker 5: to have it shipped from from Milan.

1934
01:28:46,194 --> 01:28:50,314
Speaker 3: Right, but I'd made it. I'd rather have quality over quantity.

1935
01:28:51,154 --> 01:28:52,434
Speaker 5: I would agree with Fred on that.

1936
01:28:52,874 --> 01:28:53,274
Speaker 3: Yeaheah.

1937
01:28:54,074 --> 01:28:56,154
Speaker 5: For as much as we argue, we really do line

1938
01:28:56,234 --> 01:28:57,434
Speaker 5: up on a lot of things.

1939
01:28:58,634 --> 01:29:02,674
Speaker 3: Let's let's try the TPS outline again. Riley's in Phoenix.

1940
01:29:02,714 --> 01:29:07,754
Speaker 3: What's up, Riley? Hey, what's up?

1941
01:29:09,354 --> 01:29:09,554
Speaker 15: Hey?

1942
01:29:09,674 --> 01:29:10,274
Speaker 12: What's on?

1943
01:29:10,474 --> 01:29:11,954
Speaker 3: Guys? What up?

1944
01:29:12,434 --> 01:29:15,714
Speaker 7: I just had a couple of questions and I wanted

1945
01:29:15,754 --> 01:29:18,354
Speaker 7: to get you guys spot. I know you said you

1946
01:29:18,394 --> 01:29:20,954
Speaker 7: didn't really want to talk draft too much, so I

1947
01:29:20,954 --> 01:29:23,394
Speaker 7: won't get into player specific.

1948
01:29:24,354 --> 01:29:26,154
Speaker 10: Okay, yeah, that's good.

1949
01:29:28,034 --> 01:29:28,554
Speaker 3: Hello.

1950
01:29:28,954 --> 01:29:29,994
Speaker 5: I think we lost him.

1951
01:29:29,874 --> 01:29:34,634
Speaker 3: Riley, Riley, Riley, hang on for us.

1952
01:29:34,954 --> 01:29:36,154
Speaker 5: His call must have dropped.

1953
01:29:36,194 --> 01:29:37,194
Speaker 3: Oh, poor Riley.

1954
01:29:37,634 --> 01:29:39,434
Speaker 5: That was the closest we had to a call. Mike

1955
01:29:39,674 --> 01:29:40,954
Speaker 5: hour and twenty eight minutes.

1956
01:29:40,754 --> 01:29:43,114
Speaker 3: Into the show, He's like, I don't want to know.

1957
01:29:43,434 --> 01:29:45,394
Speaker 5: We've had several people on the line. We just can't.

1958
01:29:45,474 --> 01:29:46,514
Speaker 3: What do you think he was gonna I know you

1959
01:29:46,514 --> 01:29:49,114
Speaker 3: guys didn't want to talk draft, but I'm going to

1960
01:29:49,154 --> 01:29:50,194
Speaker 3: talk draft.

1961
01:29:50,314 --> 01:29:52,954
Speaker 5: Right And uh, it wasn't that I didn't want to talk. Oh,

1962
01:29:52,994 --> 01:29:55,794
Speaker 5: Fred didn't want to talk about specific players in the draft.

1963
01:29:56,634 --> 01:29:59,234
Speaker 5: There's six games left in the season. We have plenty

1964
01:29:59,274 --> 01:30:01,114
Speaker 5: of time to talk about the draft after the season.

1965
01:30:01,154 --> 01:30:04,474
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Mike, We're not Patriots scouting Statt department. Who

1966
01:30:04,514 --> 01:30:08,074
Speaker 5: was out, you know, scouting these guys and putting together

1967
01:30:08,114 --> 01:30:10,874
Speaker 5: their boards and whatnot. We're not doing that, not yet,

1968
01:30:11,714 --> 01:30:14,474
Speaker 5: even in the off season. Now that Evan might do.

1969
01:30:14,474 --> 01:30:18,074
Speaker 3: That spiing Fresno rights in he said some time ago,

1970
01:30:18,114 --> 01:30:21,314
Speaker 3: Fred mentioned offhand that there's a term for when you

1971
01:30:21,394 --> 01:30:23,914
Speaker 3: do a clever turn of phrase, such as Eli Manning

1972
01:30:24,034 --> 01:30:26,114
Speaker 3: is going to be a Hall of guy versus a

1973
01:30:26,154 --> 01:30:28,834
Speaker 3: hall a guy in the Hall of Fame. Well, I

1974
01:30:28,874 --> 01:30:32,314
Speaker 3: asked chat GBT and it said the term is either

1975
01:30:32,394 --> 01:30:37,434
Speaker 3: contrastive phrasing or ironic contrast. And there it is. Okay.

1976
01:30:37,634 --> 01:30:38,714
Speaker 3: Andy was a big one on that.

1977
01:30:38,834 --> 01:30:41,314
Speaker 5: Andy was, Yeah, he's the one that really brought it

1978
01:30:41,354 --> 01:30:44,714
Speaker 5: to the mainstream, and it was that.

1979
01:30:44,834 --> 01:30:46,514
Speaker 3: Is he a running back or is he a back

1980
01:30:46,554 --> 01:30:47,234
Speaker 3: who runs?

1981
01:30:47,434 --> 01:30:50,154
Speaker 5: No, it was more like Mark Anderson is the guy

1982
01:30:50,194 --> 01:30:52,514
Speaker 5: who had ten sacks. It's not a ten sack guy.

1983
01:30:52,674 --> 01:30:53,154
Speaker 3: I like that.

1984
01:30:53,194 --> 01:30:54,594
Speaker 5: Tully Bantercaine, same thing.

1985
01:30:54,674 --> 01:30:58,394
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, exactly, and he's right, yeah, you.

1986
01:30:58,394 --> 01:30:58,914
Speaker 10: Know, I like that.

1987
01:30:58,994 --> 01:31:02,314
Speaker 5: It's just like there's a difference between a Pro Bowl

1988
01:31:02,394 --> 01:31:04,074
Speaker 5: quarterback and a quarterback who went to.

1989
01:31:04,074 --> 01:31:07,634
Speaker 4: The Pro Bowl running quarterback a quarterback who can run.

1990
01:31:07,714 --> 01:31:09,594
Speaker 3: So that's contrast of phrasing.

1991
01:31:09,314 --> 01:31:10,514
Speaker 5: Contrasting freezing.

1992
01:31:10,554 --> 01:31:11,994
Speaker 4: There you go get smarter.

1993
01:31:12,234 --> 01:31:15,874
Speaker 3: Yeah, Boston Cream sends in some trivia.

1994
01:31:16,394 --> 01:31:17,794
Speaker 10: I want to do someve trivia.

1995
01:31:17,834 --> 01:31:22,914
Speaker 3: I love trivia. Question one. The Patriots picked first overall

1996
01:31:23,034 --> 01:31:26,434
Speaker 3: in nineteen eighty two. The player that selective.

1997
01:31:26,154 --> 01:31:29,634
Speaker 5: Was game Day Ken Simms.

1998
01:31:29,674 --> 01:31:32,834
Speaker 3: Ken Simms is correct, you called him game Day. Yeah.

1999
01:31:33,514 --> 01:31:35,274
Speaker 5: He said he'd be ready on game day after he

2000
01:31:35,314 --> 01:31:36,154
Speaker 5: had a slow.

2001
01:31:36,114 --> 01:31:39,194
Speaker 3: Start to He never liked to practice, right, was he. Yeah?

2002
01:31:39,474 --> 01:31:42,514
Speaker 5: No, he had one reasonably good year and he broke

2003
01:31:42,554 --> 01:31:42,874
Speaker 5: his leg.

2004
01:31:43,394 --> 01:31:46,594
Speaker 3: I'm a former Patriot first round pick and full back

2005
01:31:46,634 --> 01:31:52,154
Speaker 3: out of usc Who am I what round pick? First round?

2006
01:31:52,594 --> 01:31:53,794
Speaker 5: Oh? Sam Cunningham.

2007
01:31:53,834 --> 01:31:58,274
Speaker 3: Sam Cunningham Sam Bam, I crossed, these are really easy,

2008
01:31:58,314 --> 01:32:01,434
Speaker 3: Boston cream. I crossed the picket line during an NFL

2009
01:32:01,514 --> 01:32:06,074
Speaker 3: strike to play quarterback for the Patriots. BAMBI right, that

2010
01:32:06,114 --> 01:32:11,034
Speaker 3: would be Doug flu In Paul Parlance. And finally, I

2011
01:32:11,154 --> 01:32:14,474
Speaker 3: scored four touchdowns on five rushes in the season and

2012
01:32:14,554 --> 01:32:17,514
Speaker 3: am universally known to be one of the best players

2013
01:32:17,514 --> 01:32:22,794
Speaker 3: in Team nay League history. Now this is sarcastic. This

2014
01:32:22,834 --> 01:32:24,113
Speaker 3: is Andy would get.

2015
01:32:23,914 --> 01:32:28,154
Speaker 4: This one, Oh Devlin, James Devlin, Right, you have me

2016
01:32:28,154 --> 01:32:29,074
Speaker 4: with Andy?

2017
01:32:29,034 --> 01:32:30,954
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would not have gotten that without your Andy.

2018
01:32:31,234 --> 01:32:34,394
Speaker 4: A little fullback centric there questions.

2019
01:32:35,554 --> 01:32:38,554
Speaker 5: I was thinking full back out of USC mostly to Tupoo,

2020
01:32:38,594 --> 01:32:41,114
Speaker 5: but then he said first round pick. I was like, oh,

2021
01:32:41,394 --> 01:32:42,594
Speaker 5: it's a trick question.

2022
01:32:42,874 --> 01:32:44,034
Speaker 10: Was mostly the Tupoo good?

2023
01:32:44,794 --> 01:32:46,194
Speaker 5: He was a great special teams player.

2024
01:32:46,274 --> 01:32:48,914
Speaker 3: Yeah he was, he was, Yeah.

2025
01:32:48,274 --> 01:32:50,754
Speaker 5: Yeah he was. You know, he's a good song I remember.

2026
01:32:50,874 --> 01:32:52,074
Speaker 4: I mean, I told you when I was a kid,

2027
01:32:52,074 --> 01:32:54,114
Speaker 4: I called them mosty tu poo poos. That was one

2028
01:32:54,114 --> 01:32:55,434
Speaker 4: of the first players I.

2029
01:32:55,434 --> 01:32:56,794
Speaker 5: Knew two poo poos.

2030
01:32:56,794 --> 01:32:58,794
Speaker 3: And I think it was Russ Francis who said, like

2031
01:32:59,194 --> 01:33:01,234
Speaker 3: he was probably the best, one of the best coal

2032
01:33:01,434 --> 01:33:05,754
Speaker 3: or snow game because he had these wide feet. It

2033
01:33:05,834 --> 01:33:08,514
Speaker 3: was like snow shoes. He never loses, had.

2034
01:33:08,354 --> 01:33:10,954
Speaker 5: Like one hundred yard game in the snow late in

2035
01:33:10,994 --> 01:33:12,754
Speaker 5: the season one year against the Saints.

2036
01:33:12,954 --> 01:33:13,514
Speaker 10: Wide feet.

2037
01:33:14,154 --> 01:33:16,394
Speaker 5: I didn't know that. I didn't know the wide feet part. Yeah,

2038
01:33:16,434 --> 01:33:18,634
Speaker 5: that's interesting, the wide angle. I didn't know that one.

2039
01:33:18,874 --> 01:33:21,114
Speaker 3: Uh Patrick and Ottawa. I'm not sure I understand this

2040
01:33:21,194 --> 01:33:25,914
Speaker 3: email hearing Drake may say pause after talking about feeling

2041
01:33:25,914 --> 01:33:29,194
Speaker 3: the guys during a press conference. These aren't Bills Patriots anymore.

2042
01:33:29,234 --> 01:33:29,874
Speaker 3: What did he say?

2043
01:33:30,354 --> 01:33:33,634
Speaker 4: I guess he like verbalized the word pause today, which

2044
01:33:33,674 --> 01:33:35,834
Speaker 4: I didn't catch. I didn't catch, and it's been it's

2045
01:33:35,834 --> 01:33:37,754
Speaker 4: been going around on social media a little bit that

2046
01:33:37,954 --> 01:33:40,474
Speaker 4: he was responding to a question and then, you know,

2047
01:33:40,554 --> 01:33:41,674
Speaker 4: said pause.

2048
01:33:41,834 --> 01:33:42,634
Speaker 3: What was the question?

2049
01:33:42,834 --> 01:33:44,474
Speaker 10: A shoot?

2050
01:33:44,874 --> 01:33:45,474
Speaker 5: I'd have to look.

2051
01:33:45,554 --> 01:33:48,554
Speaker 3: Come on, man, I forget, I forget, So I'm now

2052
01:33:48,594 --> 01:33:49,234
Speaker 3: I'm intrigued.

2053
01:33:49,314 --> 01:33:51,834
Speaker 5: So now I'm gonna have to call myself out for

2054
01:33:51,954 --> 01:33:53,354
Speaker 5: not paying attention because.

2055
01:33:53,114 --> 01:33:55,754
Speaker 4: I didn't hear it either. I saw a couple.

2056
01:33:57,074 --> 01:34:00,114
Speaker 3: Well, where is it all right? While you're looking at

2057
01:34:00,674 --> 01:34:02,674
Speaker 3: Brendan from Edmonton, Alberta?

2058
01:34:03,674 --> 01:34:03,794
Speaker 5: Uh?

2059
01:34:04,034 --> 01:34:07,394
Speaker 3: One? Play gotta have it? Third and ten? Who are

2060
01:34:07,434 --> 01:34:09,474
Speaker 3: you throwing? The ball to if all things are equal,

2061
01:34:09,554 --> 01:34:17,194
Speaker 3: Wes Welker, Julian Edelman, Danny Amandola or Troy Brown Welker, Welker, Yeah,

2062
01:34:17,914 --> 01:34:19,394
Speaker 3: but over Edelman.

2063
01:34:20,554 --> 01:34:22,914
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'd probably go Troy Brown next.

2064
01:34:23,354 --> 01:34:25,874
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, do you want to hear? Yeah?

2065
01:34:25,994 --> 01:34:28,234
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah. Do you have which one it is?

2066
01:34:28,314 --> 01:34:31,874
Speaker 12: Matt reading space and leverage or how are you really

2067
01:34:31,914 --> 01:34:33,034
Speaker 12: seeing the defense.

2068
01:34:32,714 --> 01:34:33,874
Speaker 10: And like going through your head?

2069
01:34:34,034 --> 01:34:36,794
Speaker 11: Yeah, this kind of comes natural. I think you always

2070
01:34:36,834 --> 01:34:38,274
Speaker 11: try to check, you know, the safety structure. I think

2071
01:34:38,274 --> 01:34:40,394
Speaker 11: that helps any type of quarterback. But uh, I think

2072
01:34:40,514 --> 01:34:42,474
Speaker 11: kind of the best thing is just just spatial reasoning,

2073
01:34:42,554 --> 01:34:44,794
Speaker 11: like you said, seeing the space or seeing the guy,

2074
01:34:44,874 --> 01:34:47,194
Speaker 11: and that also comes with you know, feeling the guy out,

2075
01:34:47,874 --> 01:34:49,994
Speaker 11: you know pause, but uh, just to kind of seeing.

2076
01:34:49,834 --> 01:34:50,914
Speaker 5: How the rally's kind of run.

2077
01:34:50,954 --> 01:34:53,394
Speaker 11: And I think that comes with kind of time, Hey,

2078
01:34:53,434 --> 01:34:55,354
Speaker 11: you know Hunter maybe doing this against this coverage or

2079
01:34:55,634 --> 01:34:58,274
Speaker 11: maybe versus man. So they kind of just feeling out,

2080
01:34:58,434 --> 01:35:00,354
Speaker 11: you kind of the guys and and seeing how they

2081
01:35:00,394 --> 01:35:02,314
Speaker 11: run routes for a different you know man and zone,

2082
01:35:02,474 --> 01:35:04,594
Speaker 11: and then also just getting reps at it. That's the

2083
01:35:04,594 --> 01:35:05,114
Speaker 11: biggest thing.

2084
01:35:06,394 --> 01:35:07,314
Speaker 3: Where did he say pause?

2085
01:35:07,394 --> 01:35:09,474
Speaker 5: That was in there in the middle, but I was

2086
01:35:09,514 --> 01:35:12,474
Speaker 5: he kind of like how he's doing it mentally like

2087
01:35:12,514 --> 01:35:14,154
Speaker 5: don't like you know, you like you see the guy

2088
01:35:14,194 --> 01:35:17,354
Speaker 5: out pause and then you make your know. That's how

2089
01:35:17,394 --> 01:35:20,114
Speaker 5: I took that. Listening to it, I getta admit. I

2090
01:35:20,154 --> 01:35:21,514
Speaker 5: did not think anything of it.

2091
01:35:21,514 --> 01:35:24,154
Speaker 4: I didn't think anybody live and on this replay, I

2092
01:35:24,194 --> 01:35:27,314
Speaker 4: didn't think anything. People are just putting it on social media.

2093
01:35:27,794 --> 01:35:29,714
Speaker 4: I think it was Taylor that asked the question, and

2094
01:35:30,034 --> 01:35:32,594
Speaker 4: Taylor definitely asked the question, but also said, you know,

2095
01:35:33,074 --> 01:35:36,114
Speaker 4: May says pause when he mentions, I don't know, I

2096
01:35:36,114 --> 01:35:36,554
Speaker 4: don't get it.

2097
01:35:37,034 --> 01:35:39,514
Speaker 3: I don't think he meant pause like now I need

2098
01:35:39,554 --> 01:35:41,514
Speaker 3: to stop and think. I think he meant pause like

2099
01:35:41,794 --> 01:35:42,714
Speaker 3: like like.

2100
01:35:44,954 --> 01:35:49,234
Speaker 11: Pause, like you said, seeing the space or seeing the guy,

2101
01:35:49,314 --> 01:35:51,634
Speaker 11: and that also comes with you know, feeling the guy out,

2102
01:35:52,314 --> 01:35:54,514
Speaker 11: you know, pause, but just kind of see how the

2103
01:35:54,594 --> 01:35:55,594
Speaker 11: rise is kind of run.

2104
01:35:55,394 --> 01:35:58,794
Speaker 5: And feeling the guy out pause and then seeing how

2105
01:35:58,834 --> 01:36:00,914
Speaker 5: the guy running something. That's what I think he was saying.

2106
01:36:01,034 --> 01:36:03,234
Speaker 3: Take a beat, take a beat, take a beat.

2107
01:36:03,874 --> 01:36:04,834
Speaker 5: That's how I took.

2108
01:36:04,674 --> 01:36:07,074
Speaker 3: It, nitpicking every little thing.

2109
01:36:07,314 --> 01:36:09,674
Speaker 5: Leave my drake Alonge friend, I'll take you a role.

2110
01:36:10,834 --> 01:36:12,674
Speaker 5: I think I like drink more than you do.

2111
01:36:12,754 --> 01:36:17,874
Speaker 3: Like God, people, let's take a breath, take a pause.

2112
01:36:18,634 --> 01:36:21,354
Speaker 3: Trevor from Fresno. There's been talk about how this year's

2113
01:36:21,594 --> 01:36:25,074
Speaker 3: draft class still isn't a success unless another guy hits

2114
01:36:26,074 --> 01:36:28,514
Speaker 3: so the current one, the one they just drafted. But

2115
01:36:28,594 --> 01:36:31,234
Speaker 3: I don't really see that that way. This year is

2116
01:36:31,274 --> 01:36:33,954
Speaker 3: all about developing Drake May, and he's been awesome. The

2117
01:36:33,994 --> 01:36:36,434
Speaker 3: offense looks half decent with a motley crew at both

2118
01:36:36,474 --> 01:36:38,634
Speaker 3: wide receiver and O line. I think all we need

2119
01:36:38,754 --> 01:36:40,874
Speaker 3: is an impact player on offense and an impact player

2120
01:36:40,874 --> 01:36:44,274
Speaker 3: on defense, and for Drake May to continue developing. We

2121
01:36:44,354 --> 01:36:46,034
Speaker 3: are not as far off as some people think. What

2122
01:36:46,074 --> 01:36:48,794
Speaker 3: are your thoughts? But I hear what you're saying, Trevor.

2123
01:36:48,794 --> 01:36:52,234
Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, like this draft

2124
01:36:52,234 --> 01:36:55,314
Speaker 3: class wasn't that good. I mean, Drake May, of course

2125
01:36:55,394 --> 01:37:00,674
Speaker 3: is the crown jewel, but like.

2126
01:36:58,674 --> 01:37:01,154
Speaker 5: Like, who are the impact players? Like are you adding

2127
01:37:01,154 --> 01:37:06,074
Speaker 5: like Jamar Chase and Micah Parsons right, Like because no.

2128
01:37:05,994 --> 01:37:08,754
Speaker 3: But he's but he's talking about this year.

2129
01:37:09,714 --> 01:37:11,674
Speaker 5: To suggest that you're not that far off. All you

2130
01:37:11,674 --> 01:37:13,594
Speaker 5: need is one impact player on offense and one impact

2131
01:37:13,594 --> 01:37:16,754
Speaker 5: player on defense. That is in my for next year,

2132
01:37:16,914 --> 01:37:20,394
Speaker 5: in my view way short. They need way more than that.

2133
01:37:21,194 --> 01:37:25,154
Speaker 5: And the point about the draft class, Yes, this season,

2134
01:37:25,234 --> 01:37:27,714
Speaker 5: the most important thing in my view, in Mike's view,

2135
01:37:27,874 --> 01:37:30,674
Speaker 5: in a lot of people's view, was to develop Drake May.

2136
01:37:31,754 --> 01:37:33,714
Speaker 5: That didn't mean that it was okay that they haven't

2137
01:37:33,874 --> 01:37:35,274
Speaker 5: hit on any other draft picks.

2138
01:37:35,554 --> 01:37:36,674
Speaker 10: No, how long is it gonna take.

2139
01:37:36,714 --> 01:37:37,474
Speaker 4: That's it's not.

2140
01:37:37,754 --> 01:37:39,674
Speaker 5: I mean it like, right now, it doesn't look like

2141
01:37:39,714 --> 01:37:43,114
Speaker 5: that draft class has given you anything, let alone much.

2142
01:37:43,074 --> 01:37:44,874
Speaker 4: Right I mean, at the very least, you're hoping that

2143
01:37:44,954 --> 01:37:47,714
Speaker 4: you get some players that can just be solid for you,

2144
01:37:47,794 --> 01:37:50,394
Speaker 4: like you know, I mean, Cole Strange comes back, is

2145
01:37:50,434 --> 01:37:52,194
Speaker 4: Leydon Robinson ever gonna play again this year? Is he

2146
01:37:52,274 --> 01:37:54,394
Speaker 4: ever going to get another chance? Caden Wallace is still

2147
01:37:54,394 --> 01:37:57,274
Speaker 4: not back. I'm kind of losing hope on Polk. I mean,

2148
01:37:57,314 --> 01:37:59,234
Speaker 4: people continue to just say he's gonna be good, He's

2149
01:37:59,234 --> 01:38:01,314
Speaker 4: gonna be good. I mean, I've never seen anything like that,

2150
01:38:01,394 --> 01:38:03,714
Speaker 4: where I mean I said already, I've never seen anything

2151
01:38:03,754 --> 01:38:05,754
Speaker 4: like feeling he was going to be productive in camp

2152
01:38:05,994 --> 01:38:08,194
Speaker 4: and then he wasn't. But I've also never seen people

2153
01:38:08,274 --> 01:38:11,194
Speaker 4: so assured that he's going to break out of this

2154
01:38:11,234 --> 01:38:12,714
Speaker 4: and he's going to be good. I mean, he's eleven

2155
01:38:12,754 --> 01:38:17,874
Speaker 4: catches on the season. I hope so, but I don't

2156
01:38:17,914 --> 01:38:18,714
Speaker 4: I don't share that.

2157
01:38:18,834 --> 01:38:20,754
Speaker 10: Oh, it's absolutely gonna happen anymore.

2158
01:38:20,994 --> 01:38:23,914
Speaker 3: What do we make of Evan's tardiness. I don't know.

2159
01:38:23,954 --> 01:38:25,994
Speaker 4: Maybe I'll give him an extra think it's that given

2160
01:38:25,994 --> 01:38:27,034
Speaker 4: her a little extra time.

2161
01:38:27,914 --> 01:38:29,674
Speaker 5: Maybe it's usually late in the show that.

2162
01:38:29,674 --> 01:38:33,114
Speaker 3: He comes a little worried. Oh, do you think there

2163
01:38:33,154 --> 01:38:35,514
Speaker 3: might be some grousing. Well, I think there might be

2164
01:38:35,554 --> 01:38:38,514
Speaker 3: some unrest cuffs. I don't know about.

2165
01:38:38,994 --> 01:38:41,954
Speaker 5: Someone took a pause. Yeah, yeah, he'll be put in

2166
01:38:42,114 --> 01:38:42,914
Speaker 5: laid pause on.

2167
01:38:43,194 --> 01:38:47,354
Speaker 3: Maybe yeah, laid pause. Yeah, I don't know.

2168
01:38:47,354 --> 01:38:49,394
Speaker 4: I don't remember what time he usually the tweets i'll

2169
01:38:49,394 --> 01:38:51,474
Speaker 4: all just hit about two minutes ago.

2170
01:38:51,554 --> 01:38:53,354
Speaker 5: So he shall be by it, he'll be.

2171
01:38:53,274 --> 01:38:55,834
Speaker 3: Coming, okay, so he's probably on his way. Yeah.

2172
01:38:58,354 --> 01:39:02,354
Speaker 5: The draft class thing to me is that's relevant. You

2173
01:39:02,394 --> 01:39:05,194
Speaker 5: can't just be happy. I mean, obviously, that's the most

2174
01:39:05,194 --> 01:39:08,114
Speaker 5: important thing I'd rather have. If I had to choose,

2175
01:39:08,514 --> 01:39:10,994
Speaker 5: Drake may hit and the rest of them miss, then

2176
01:39:11,034 --> 01:39:12,834
Speaker 5: the rest of them hit and Drake may miss.

2177
01:39:13,474 --> 01:39:17,034
Speaker 3: Oh sure, okay, given that choice, obviously, Yeah, but.

2178
01:39:17,154 --> 01:39:19,514
Speaker 5: You needed, you know, And I'm not writing it off.

2179
01:39:19,594 --> 01:39:21,914
Speaker 5: It's you know, we're talking about eleven games. I'm not

2180
01:39:21,914 --> 01:39:24,674
Speaker 5: writing the draft class off. I'm always very critical of

2181
01:39:24,714 --> 01:39:28,554
Speaker 5: those who immediately declare victory on the draft. When guys

2182
01:39:28,834 --> 01:39:31,114
Speaker 5: make the team and play a little bit, you know,

2183
01:39:31,674 --> 01:39:32,434
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna write it.

2184
01:39:32,634 --> 01:39:34,834
Speaker 3: Robinson could end up being Robinson and.

2185
01:39:34,874 --> 01:39:37,594
Speaker 5: Caden Wallace could end up being starting offensive lineman for you.

2186
01:39:37,994 --> 01:39:40,474
Speaker 5: Jalen pol could shrug this off and just be a

2187
01:39:40,474 --> 01:39:42,874
Speaker 5: footnote in his career. He could be, you know, a

2188
01:39:42,874 --> 01:39:44,874
Speaker 5: solid receiver for you, and all of a sudden it's

2189
01:39:44,874 --> 01:39:45,554
Speaker 5: a really good draft.

2190
01:39:45,594 --> 01:39:46,434
Speaker 3: Books not closed.

2191
01:39:46,834 --> 01:39:49,554
Speaker 5: You know what was the year that it looked like

2192
01:39:49,554 --> 01:39:52,674
Speaker 5: it was a really bad class for a while and

2193
01:39:52,714 --> 01:39:54,754
Speaker 5: then all of a sudden you got more out of

2194
01:39:55,074 --> 01:39:59,674
Speaker 5: was it duggery? You know, Infony Jennings looked you know,

2195
01:39:59,674 --> 01:40:01,394
Speaker 5: he didn't do much of a couple of years. Now

2196
01:40:01,434 --> 01:40:04,114
Speaker 5: he's a starting player for you. Like things can evolve,

2197
01:40:04,594 --> 01:40:07,714
Speaker 5: but they're gonna need to because you can't just have

2198
01:40:08,474 --> 01:40:11,394
Speaker 5: May and the rest of them nothing. You need a

2199
01:40:11,434 --> 01:40:13,554
Speaker 5: couple of these guys to hit guess who's here?

2200
01:40:16,394 --> 01:40:17,714
Speaker 9: Has we turned?

2201
01:40:18,474 --> 01:40:23,714
Speaker 15: And then has we turned? Has we turned?

2202
01:40:28,194 --> 01:40:28,274
Speaker 1: All?

2203
01:40:28,354 --> 01:40:29,754
Speaker 3: Right? Haven't we were a little warried.

2204
01:40:29,914 --> 01:40:32,234
Speaker 5: Yeah was very well.

2205
01:40:32,354 --> 01:40:35,394
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, it's they've been running little late in terms

2206
01:40:35,474 --> 01:40:40,194
Speaker 6: of start to practice. So one o'clock is supposed to

2207
01:40:40,194 --> 01:40:41,594
Speaker 6: be the start of time, but it's been closer to

2208
01:40:41,674 --> 01:40:43,834
Speaker 6: like one ten, I would say, by the time we

2209
01:40:43,874 --> 01:40:47,954
Speaker 6: get out there for stretching. But anyways, a little change

2210
01:40:47,954 --> 01:40:49,834
Speaker 6: for you today, Fred, no pads.

2211
01:40:50,074 --> 01:40:51,074
Speaker 3: No pads on Wednesday.

2212
01:40:51,194 --> 01:40:54,714
Speaker 6: No pads on Wednesday, so shells, but no pads today.

2213
01:40:55,114 --> 01:40:57,314
Speaker 6: I think we're getting later on into the season. Guys

2214
01:40:57,354 --> 01:41:00,034
Speaker 6: are probably feeling it a little bit, so a little

2215
01:41:00,114 --> 01:41:04,714
Speaker 6: lighter practice today without pads. And Nicole Strange, as Gerrodmeo said,

2216
01:41:04,714 --> 01:41:08,194
Speaker 6: back at practice today and participating. We can get to

2217
01:41:08,554 --> 01:41:10,234
Speaker 6: where he was participating here in.

2218
01:41:10,194 --> 01:41:11,034
Speaker 3: A second as well.

2219
01:41:11,714 --> 01:41:16,954
Speaker 6: In terms of absences, Christian Barmore not spotted at practice.

2220
01:41:17,434 --> 01:41:20,754
Speaker 6: It seems like he's on some sort of a management schedule,

2221
01:41:20,834 --> 01:41:24,834
Speaker 6: I would think. And no Dietrich Wise still still at practice,

2222
01:41:24,914 --> 01:41:27,954
Speaker 6: so still dealing with a foot injury. It sounds like

2223
01:41:27,994 --> 01:41:28,434
Speaker 6: for Wise.

2224
01:41:28,674 --> 01:41:34,074
Speaker 3: Okay, what did you make of Gerard saying that you know,

2225
01:41:34,114 --> 01:41:38,074
Speaker 3: we could you know that Cole Strange will be getting

2226
01:41:38,074 --> 01:41:40,914
Speaker 3: back to practice. A lot of people we heard that

2227
01:41:41,034 --> 01:41:43,794
Speaker 3: David Andrews is working with him at center. Yep, what

2228
01:41:43,794 --> 01:41:44,714
Speaker 3: do you think about that?

2229
01:41:44,794 --> 01:41:47,634
Speaker 6: Well, that's what we saw out there today was after

2230
01:41:47,674 --> 01:41:50,234
Speaker 6: Ben Brown, the guy snapping the ball was cold, strange,

2231
01:41:50,634 --> 01:41:53,514
Speaker 6: So he was taking some reps at center already in

2232
01:41:53,634 --> 01:41:58,034
Speaker 6: practice today, And you know, I think long term, there

2233
01:41:58,154 --> 01:42:00,394
Speaker 6: was there were some thoughts in the draft that center

2234
01:42:00,474 --> 01:42:04,194
Speaker 6: might be his best position in the line, just because

2235
01:42:04,234 --> 01:42:06,554
Speaker 6: of the fact that he's undersized, and you can get

2236
01:42:06,554 --> 01:42:09,714
Speaker 6: away a little bit more with being undersized at center

2237
01:42:09,794 --> 01:42:12,474
Speaker 6: versus at guard. But I find it interesting because I

2238
01:42:12,834 --> 01:42:15,994
Speaker 6: just feel like Michael Jordan is their weak link right now,

2239
01:42:16,434 --> 01:42:18,794
Speaker 6: and if I were to want to replace anybody on

2240
01:42:18,874 --> 01:42:20,594
Speaker 6: the line with what they have in the house, I

2241
01:42:20,634 --> 01:42:23,954
Speaker 6: would think left guard, which is strangest spot, would be

2242
01:42:24,034 --> 01:42:27,754
Speaker 6: the spot to replay, and not necessarily Ben Brown at center.

2243
01:42:27,794 --> 01:42:30,874
Speaker 6: But I should mention Ben Brown was still taking the

2244
01:42:30,954 --> 01:42:34,034
Speaker 6: first team reps at center. Col Strange was taking second

2245
01:42:34,034 --> 01:42:34,994
Speaker 6: team reps at center.

2246
01:42:35,114 --> 01:42:38,434
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, all right, So you say it was in shells,

2247
01:42:38,874 --> 01:42:40,314
Speaker 3: shells and helmets.

2248
01:42:40,794 --> 01:42:46,834
Speaker 6: Shorts, some shorts, some sweats, some shorts with the leggings underneath.

2249
01:42:46,914 --> 01:42:47,514
Speaker 6: You know, that's.

2250
01:42:47,474 --> 01:42:51,034
Speaker 5: Everybody to go with the leggings without the shorts Sean Jefferson.

2251
01:42:51,154 --> 01:42:54,834
Speaker 6: No, no one's got the scared, no one's got the

2252
01:42:54,874 --> 01:42:55,794
Speaker 6: you know what's to do that?

2253
01:42:55,954 --> 01:42:56,714
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think you.

2254
01:42:56,794 --> 01:42:58,114
Speaker 5: Did, Jefferson.

2255
01:42:58,514 --> 01:43:01,114
Speaker 3: He kept running at you with all that stuff bouncing around.

2256
01:43:03,514 --> 01:43:09,554
Speaker 3: Ye no, uh okay. So other than that, any you

2257
01:43:09,594 --> 01:43:12,314
Speaker 3: know alignment. Do we think we're looking at the same

2258
01:43:12,394 --> 01:43:15,073
Speaker 3: line for offense this week? Uh?

2259
01:43:15,234 --> 01:43:17,794
Speaker 6: Yeah, I thought it was interesting. It didn't sound like

2260
01:43:18,034 --> 01:43:21,114
Speaker 6: uh Girod was too committal to that this morning, Like

2261
01:43:21,194 --> 01:43:24,714
Speaker 6: it wasn't as matter of fact as it was last week.

2262
01:43:24,834 --> 01:43:29,274
Speaker 6: So I believe they they're probably trying to see where

2263
01:43:29,314 --> 01:43:32,194
Speaker 6: cold Strange is, you know, and maybe trying to factor

2264
01:43:32,274 --> 01:43:34,674
Speaker 6: him back in again. I would think at left guard,

2265
01:43:34,874 --> 01:43:36,714
Speaker 6: I seeing that that's where he's played his whole career.

2266
01:43:36,834 --> 01:43:39,554
Speaker 6: But you know, we'll see. I don't think it's a

2267
01:43:39,594 --> 01:43:41,954
Speaker 6: foregone conclusion that the line's going to be exactly the

2268
01:43:41,994 --> 01:43:42,434
Speaker 6: same though.

2269
01:43:42,514 --> 01:43:47,594
Speaker 3: Okay we were talking well before we get into the subject.

2270
01:43:47,674 --> 01:43:51,794
Speaker 3: But staying on what you saw today, it what's the

2271
01:43:51,834 --> 01:43:53,314
Speaker 3: weather supposed to be for Miami?

2272
01:43:53,914 --> 01:43:54,394
Speaker 5: Uh?

2273
01:43:54,794 --> 01:43:58,354
Speaker 3: Not too hot forties snow no, I doubt.

2274
01:43:58,154 --> 01:44:01,274
Speaker 6: That, but like like low to mid seventies, not so

2275
01:44:01,474 --> 01:44:03,634
Speaker 6: bearable it's going to be it's not gonna be crazy.

2276
01:44:03,714 --> 01:44:04,914
Speaker 5: Yeah's going to be a scortchet.

2277
01:44:04,954 --> 01:44:06,474
Speaker 3: So it's not like they have to go into the

2278
01:44:06,474 --> 01:44:09,154
Speaker 3: bubble and put turn the heat on to get ready.

2279
01:44:10,154 --> 01:44:11,074
Speaker 6: Yeah, it doesn't.

2280
01:44:10,754 --> 01:44:13,594
Speaker 3: Sound like it, but that sun can get hot down well.

2281
01:44:13,474 --> 01:44:16,354
Speaker 6: And you know the sideline, you know, I'm.

2282
01:44:16,234 --> 01:44:18,074
Speaker 5: Assuming it'll be humid because it always is.

2283
01:44:18,234 --> 01:44:21,914
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's because in Miami a lot of people don't

2284
01:44:21,914 --> 01:44:23,394
Speaker 3: know the way they have We were talking about it

2285
01:44:23,394 --> 01:44:26,194
Speaker 3: at Gillette. The way they have it up is the

2286
01:44:26,234 --> 01:44:30,874
Speaker 3: sun is beating down on the visitor bench. The dolphins

2287
01:44:30,874 --> 01:44:33,714
Speaker 3: are shaded from it, so it's it's tough down there

2288
01:44:33,754 --> 01:44:37,034
Speaker 3: when when that sun's out. So yeah, something to get

2289
01:44:37,074 --> 01:44:38,994
Speaker 3: ready to get that sunscreen on.

2290
01:44:39,114 --> 01:44:41,634
Speaker 6: If you're a player, got to get those tents, you know,

2291
01:44:41,714 --> 01:44:44,794
Speaker 6: the like the ones you bring to the beach. You

2292
01:44:44,794 --> 01:44:47,634
Speaker 6: get a bunch of those. Ye stick will be on that.

2293
01:44:47,874 --> 01:44:50,514
Speaker 5: Okay, some squore bottles.

2294
01:44:51,154 --> 01:44:54,954
Speaker 3: So with the game being with the game being in Miami, yes,

2295
01:44:56,194 --> 01:44:58,874
Speaker 3: would you say there's more media people planning to make

2296
01:44:58,914 --> 01:45:01,194
Speaker 3: that trip than they would usually for a road game.

2297
01:45:01,634 --> 01:45:02,314
Speaker 5: Interesting question.

2298
01:45:02,394 --> 01:45:05,314
Speaker 6: I didn't talk to anybody about that specifically, but I'll

2299
01:45:05,314 --> 01:45:07,514
Speaker 6: have an answer for you tomorrow. I'll ask around.

2300
01:45:07,394 --> 01:45:09,954
Speaker 3: Assignment, because I would I would imagine being like, oh,

2301
01:45:09,994 --> 01:45:13,234
Speaker 3: I'm staying at this place, so where are you staying? Yeah?

2302
01:45:13,314 --> 01:45:16,754
Speaker 6: Yeah, it is a popular trip, There's no doubt about that.

2303
01:45:16,794 --> 01:45:18,474
Speaker 3: A lot of people have relatives down there.

2304
01:45:18,594 --> 01:45:20,634
Speaker 6: Yes, I know a couple of people that are staying

2305
01:45:20,634 --> 01:45:22,754
Speaker 6: with relatives. And I know, you know.

2306
01:45:22,914 --> 01:45:25,114
Speaker 3: Barth making the trip. He is not, he's not.

2307
01:45:25,514 --> 01:45:26,794
Speaker 4: He's going to man the show.

2308
01:45:27,714 --> 01:45:33,754
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, okay, all right. Well that's that's the practice report.

2309
01:45:33,834 --> 01:45:34,194
Speaker 5: That's it.

2310
01:45:34,354 --> 01:45:35,634
Speaker 6: That's it pretty straightforward.

2311
01:45:35,674 --> 01:45:40,474
Speaker 3: Today. I think things have settled down with the media.

2312
01:45:41,034 --> 01:45:41,674
Speaker 6: Absolutely.

2313
01:45:43,074 --> 01:45:45,274
Speaker 4: Did you get kind of a little bit of a

2314
01:45:45,354 --> 01:45:46,794
Speaker 4: subdued vibe in the locker room today?

2315
01:45:46,834 --> 01:45:47,794
Speaker 10: It was a little bit kind of the vibe.

2316
01:45:47,834 --> 01:45:49,274
Speaker 4: I don't know, it's just so quiet today. I don't

2317
01:45:49,274 --> 01:45:50,594
Speaker 4: want to make it sound like they were all like

2318
01:45:50,674 --> 01:45:54,354
Speaker 4: zombies in there, but some Wednesdays it's bustling and others

2319
01:45:54,394 --> 01:45:56,074
Speaker 4: it's a little bit less so, and I kind of

2320
01:45:56,074 --> 01:45:56,834
Speaker 4: felt less over.

2321
01:45:56,714 --> 01:45:59,434
Speaker 6: That, uh, maybe a little bit. I do think that

2322
01:45:59,474 --> 01:46:04,113
Speaker 6: the vibe now is significantly different than it was earlier

2323
01:46:04,114 --> 01:46:07,634
Speaker 6: in the season, especially during obviously the six game losing streak.

2324
01:46:07,714 --> 01:46:10,354
Speaker 6: So even though they're still kind of losing now, it

2325
01:46:10,394 --> 01:46:14,034
Speaker 6: does feel like there's a little bit more belief to

2326
01:46:14,114 --> 01:46:15,073
Speaker 6: the process.

2327
01:46:15,234 --> 01:46:17,234
Speaker 5: Conflicting reports of what they're doing.

2328
01:46:17,354 --> 01:46:19,994
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I get if positive.

2329
01:46:20,234 --> 01:46:22,674
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not saying that. It's like I don't think

2330
01:46:22,674 --> 01:46:26,674
Speaker 6: he's saying and I'm not saying overly pose. But when

2331
01:46:26,714 --> 01:46:29,034
Speaker 6: it was when you were in there during the losing streak,

2332
01:46:29,074 --> 01:46:33,154
Speaker 6: it was yeah, it was grim. Yeah it had some

2333
01:46:33,194 --> 01:46:36,074
Speaker 6: moments like that, But this one, I feel like is

2334
01:46:36,114 --> 01:46:38,394
Speaker 6: a little bit more like, you know, we're doing some

2335
01:46:38,514 --> 01:46:41,634
Speaker 6: things that are working, you know, especially on the offensive

2336
01:46:41,634 --> 01:46:42,154
Speaker 6: side of the ball.

2337
01:46:42,234 --> 01:46:43,954
Speaker 4: So maybe that's why because I heard from more of

2338
01:46:43,954 --> 01:46:47,114
Speaker 4: the defensive side of the ball, and Kendrick Bourne was

2339
01:46:47,154 --> 01:46:49,234
Speaker 4: the only offensive guy we heard about, which, by the way,

2340
01:46:49,234 --> 01:46:51,874
Speaker 4: I should mention like and maybe this is everybody knows this,

2341
01:46:51,954 --> 01:46:53,474
Speaker 4: but he was just like straight up like, yeah, I

2342
01:46:53,474 --> 01:46:55,914
Speaker 4: got benched. You know, Kendrick talks like he's just like, yep,

2343
01:46:55,954 --> 01:46:58,834
Speaker 4: I got benched. And I don't know, it just was

2344
01:46:58,954 --> 01:47:00,674
Speaker 4: very forthcoming about it. I think we all assumed that,

2345
01:47:00,714 --> 01:47:02,954
Speaker 4: but I never really heard anyone explicitly say and he

2346
01:47:02,994 --> 01:47:06,394
Speaker 4: said it. But maybe my reaction is more because of

2347
01:47:06,514 --> 01:47:09,394
Speaker 4: what we heard from Tabai and Jay Jones and those

2348
01:47:09,474 --> 01:47:10,314
Speaker 4: guys that were.

2349
01:47:10,594 --> 01:47:12,594
Speaker 5: I would like to know about that whole situation is

2350
01:47:14,754 --> 01:47:18,634
Speaker 5: when was the determination that he was being benched like

2351
01:47:19,194 --> 01:47:21,994
Speaker 5: he was dressed. Yeah, it's not it's not common. You

2352
01:47:22,034 --> 01:47:24,834
Speaker 5: look at like a game book and usually the backup

2353
01:47:24,914 --> 01:47:28,514
Speaker 5: court of back is that. You know, maybe if the

2354
01:47:28,594 --> 01:47:32,074
Speaker 5: team had like nine offensive linemen dressed for it. There's

2355
01:47:32,154 --> 01:47:33,554
Speaker 5: very few guys that dress.

2356
01:47:33,354 --> 01:47:34,274
Speaker 10: And do not play.

2357
01:47:35,394 --> 01:47:38,674
Speaker 5: And Kendrick Bourne dressed didn't play in that game. I

2358
01:47:38,714 --> 01:47:42,114
Speaker 5: wonder when the determination came that he wasn't gonna play.

2359
01:47:42,154 --> 01:47:44,554
Speaker 6: Maybe he has some active game day roster bonuses in

2360
01:47:44,634 --> 01:47:48,034
Speaker 6: his contracts. They didn't want to stick it to his wallets.

2361
01:47:48,794 --> 01:47:53,314
Speaker 3: Well, I mean either high level. He shouldn't be saying

2362
01:47:53,354 --> 01:47:56,834
Speaker 3: that because his head coach didn't really ever come out

2363
01:47:56,834 --> 01:48:00,194
Speaker 3: and say, yeah, we benched him. Yeah, so you just

2364
01:48:00,274 --> 01:48:00,834
Speaker 3: can't do that.

2365
01:48:02,274 --> 01:48:02,994
Speaker 5: Sure, you can't.

2366
01:48:03,194 --> 01:48:05,714
Speaker 3: I can't. You you can't say it. You gotta you

2367
01:48:05,754 --> 01:48:07,194
Speaker 3: gotta keep that stuff in house.

2368
01:48:07,874 --> 01:48:09,954
Speaker 5: Well he didn't say why, No, I know.

2369
01:48:09,914 --> 01:48:15,194
Speaker 3: He didn't say why, but never said we benched Kendrick Bourne.

2370
01:48:15,354 --> 01:48:19,314
Speaker 5: Well he didn't play them, I know, but.

2371
01:48:18,394 --> 01:48:21,834
Speaker 3: But he just kind of skirted around it. Like you know,

2372
01:48:21,954 --> 01:48:22,714
Speaker 3: it's I don't know.

2373
01:48:23,114 --> 01:48:25,434
Speaker 5: No, I don't have as much problem. I do agree

2374
01:48:25,474 --> 01:48:28,354
Speaker 5: with you that there's been a little too much free

2375
01:48:28,354 --> 01:48:30,954
Speaker 5: wheeling in the locker room. Yes, I don't necessarily look

2376
01:48:30,954 --> 01:48:31,594
Speaker 5: at that as an.

2377
01:48:31,474 --> 01:48:38,274
Speaker 3: Exist Let's talk football. We were talking earlier. If McDaniel

2378
01:48:38,354 --> 01:48:40,954
Speaker 3: looks at last week's game against the Rams and he

2379
01:48:41,034 --> 01:48:43,834
Speaker 3: sees how McVeigh really did get us in a blender

2380
01:48:43,954 --> 01:48:46,794
Speaker 3: or whatever with the motion and all that, Yeah, do

2381
01:48:46,994 --> 01:48:50,634
Speaker 3: you say we're going to do the same thing or

2382
01:48:50,874 --> 01:48:53,074
Speaker 3: are you saying, well, they're going to be a little

2383
01:48:53,074 --> 01:48:55,994
Speaker 3: bit more prepared for it this this game than they

2384
01:48:55,994 --> 01:48:58,234
Speaker 3: would last game, so world adjusted. The second thing I

2385
01:48:58,274 --> 01:49:00,314
Speaker 3: want to ask, we had an email. I'm not going

2386
01:49:00,314 --> 01:49:03,194
Speaker 3: to take credit for this, but he claims that the

2387
01:49:03,194 --> 01:49:07,034
Speaker 3: way the Patriots played defense against the Rams was the

2388
01:49:07,074 --> 01:49:09,994
Speaker 3: same game plan they had in the Super Bowl against

2389
01:49:09,994 --> 01:49:13,114
Speaker 3: the Rams that they won. Now, obviously it worked in

2390
01:49:13,154 --> 01:49:15,194
Speaker 3: that game because I think you had better players, But

2391
01:49:15,354 --> 01:49:15,954
Speaker 3: is that true?

2392
01:49:16,154 --> 01:49:16,234
Speaker 5: No?

2393
01:49:16,514 --> 01:49:20,834
Speaker 6: Okay, Now, in the Super Bowl against the Rams, they

2394
01:49:20,994 --> 01:49:24,874
Speaker 6: really brought back like basically a forty six defense. They

2395
01:49:24,874 --> 01:49:27,554
Speaker 6: played US six one defensive front, so they put six

2396
01:49:27,554 --> 01:49:30,434
Speaker 6: guys up across the line of scrimmage because at the time,

2397
01:49:30,474 --> 01:49:32,754
Speaker 6: the Rams did not run downhill at you. They were

2398
01:49:32,794 --> 01:49:33,754
Speaker 6: trying to get outside the.

2399
01:49:33,714 --> 01:49:35,474
Speaker 3: Tack They didn't have Cooper Cup that game.

2400
01:49:35,514 --> 01:49:37,274
Speaker 6: They didn't have Cooper Cup. But you know, in the

2401
01:49:37,354 --> 01:49:41,554
Speaker 6: run game, this was this was like first iteration Sean McVay.

2402
01:49:41,634 --> 01:49:44,474
Speaker 6: We haven't gotten to this iteration of McVeigh yet. So

2403
01:49:44,794 --> 01:49:46,874
Speaker 6: he was a you know, he was a wide zone guy.

2404
01:49:47,034 --> 01:49:50,114
Speaker 6: Like they didn't really run in between the tackles or

2405
01:49:50,114 --> 01:49:52,994
Speaker 6: in between the guards really too much. So the Patriots

2406
01:49:52,994 --> 01:49:55,874
Speaker 6: put six guys across the line of scrimmage. And back

2407
01:49:55,914 --> 01:49:58,994
Speaker 6: then you had Dante high Tower as the one linebacker

2408
01:49:58,994 --> 01:50:01,194
Speaker 6: off the line of scrimmage. When you have a guy

2409
01:50:01,274 --> 01:50:04,274
Speaker 6: like that with high Tower who can basically just eat

2410
01:50:04,314 --> 01:50:07,874
Speaker 6: up blocks everywhere, it's helpful. But no, in the in

2411
01:50:07,914 --> 01:50:09,954
Speaker 6: the back end, they played zone. In the Super Bowl,

2412
01:50:09,994 --> 01:50:12,274
Speaker 6: they played cover three, they played quarters like it was

2413
01:50:12,314 --> 01:50:12,834
Speaker 6: totally different.

2414
01:50:12,914 --> 01:50:15,034
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, so then go back to the first part

2415
01:50:15,034 --> 01:50:18,114
Speaker 3: of the question, McDaniels, what is he gleaning from the

2416
01:50:18,154 --> 01:50:21,194
Speaker 3: game against the Rams, and does that have him adjust

2417
01:50:21,354 --> 01:50:23,234
Speaker 3: or does he say I'm not doing the same thing.

2418
01:50:23,514 --> 01:50:25,794
Speaker 6: Well, he does the same thing. You know that that's

2419
01:50:25,794 --> 01:50:27,954
Speaker 6: their offense. They're number one in the league in motion rate,

2420
01:50:27,994 --> 01:50:29,794
Speaker 6: they're number two in the league in motion at the snap,

2421
01:50:29,834 --> 01:50:32,514
Speaker 6: the Rams are number one. So like they they that's

2422
01:50:32,514 --> 01:50:35,034
Speaker 6: what they do. So I don't expect him to do

2423
01:50:35,114 --> 01:50:38,073
Speaker 6: anything differently or overthink it because that's just the system

2424
01:50:38,114 --> 01:50:41,034
Speaker 6: that they run in general. So I fully expect them

2425
01:50:41,074 --> 01:50:43,074
Speaker 6: to just run their offense. And I don't think the

2426
01:50:43,074 --> 01:50:46,354
Speaker 6: Patriots defense has really done anything that makes you think, well,

2427
01:50:46,354 --> 01:50:48,634
Speaker 6: we can't just run our conventional offense and we have

2428
01:50:48,714 --> 01:50:50,474
Speaker 6: to reinvent the wheel in a week.

2429
01:50:50,594 --> 01:50:53,154
Speaker 3: Okay, So what are the Patriots gonna do because they

2430
01:50:53,194 --> 01:50:56,114
Speaker 3: had problems with that type of offense? What do they

2431
01:50:56,154 --> 01:50:57,754
Speaker 3: do to adjust this week? Yeah?

2432
01:50:57,794 --> 01:51:01,074
Speaker 6: I mean I don't like the matchup, like I honestly like,

2433
01:51:01,114 --> 01:51:03,594
Speaker 6: I think it's it's a scary matchup for that reason.

2434
01:51:04,354 --> 01:51:06,114
Speaker 6: The one thing that I would say in the Patriots

2435
01:51:06,154 --> 01:51:09,314
Speaker 6: favor is that I do believe they match up a

2436
01:51:09,354 --> 01:51:12,994
Speaker 6: little bit better against these receivers than the Rams receivers

2437
01:51:13,034 --> 01:51:16,354
Speaker 6: because the Rams receivers are big, physical guys, whereas in

2438
01:51:16,434 --> 01:51:19,234
Speaker 6: this matchup, it's all about speed on speed. So when

2439
01:51:19,234 --> 01:51:22,634
Speaker 6: you look at like Gonzo, Marcus Jones, Jonathan Jones like,

2440
01:51:22,674 --> 01:51:25,194
Speaker 6: I feel a lot better about the Joneses against Jaylen

2441
01:51:25,354 --> 01:51:27,554
Speaker 6: Waddle than I do Puka Nakua just because of the

2442
01:51:27,594 --> 01:51:31,034
Speaker 6: size to discrepancies and things like that. So I do

2443
01:51:31,074 --> 01:51:33,354
Speaker 6: think they match up a little bit better in the secondary.

2444
01:51:33,394 --> 01:51:35,474
Speaker 6: And that's sort of what Girodd said this morning, that

2445
01:51:35,514 --> 01:51:38,394
Speaker 6: this would be a little bit more match up based

2446
01:51:38,554 --> 01:51:40,954
Speaker 6: than what they did against the Rams in terms of

2447
01:51:40,954 --> 01:51:42,634
Speaker 6: their game plan. And I think that will be a

2448
01:51:42,634 --> 01:51:45,714
Speaker 6: big reason why is they feel like they match up

2449
01:51:46,114 --> 01:51:49,114
Speaker 6: man on man a little bit better against Miami. So

2450
01:51:49,154 --> 01:51:52,794
Speaker 6: the one thing against Miami that you often see is

2451
01:51:52,834 --> 01:51:54,554
Speaker 6: you play a lot of man to man coverage and

2452
01:51:54,594 --> 01:51:58,034
Speaker 6: you press these receivers because everything about their offense is

2453
01:51:58,114 --> 01:52:01,634
Speaker 6: timing based. They play a really really you know, quick

2454
01:52:01,674 --> 01:52:04,114
Speaker 6: strike get the ball out of too his hands. So

2455
01:52:04,194 --> 01:52:06,434
Speaker 6: if you can get into their receivers and disrupt the

2456
01:52:06,474 --> 01:52:09,674
Speaker 6: timing of the offense, then they're not one of those

2457
01:52:09,714 --> 01:52:13,114
Speaker 6: teams that's gonna kill you as the down progresses later

2458
01:52:13,194 --> 01:52:16,354
Speaker 6: in the down. So that one way to do it.

2459
01:52:16,434 --> 01:52:19,314
Speaker 6: But if you're gonna press, like you're always risking the

2460
01:52:19,354 --> 01:52:20,954
Speaker 6: adr touchdown over your head.

2461
01:52:20,874 --> 01:52:22,554
Speaker 3: Two is accurate if nothing else.

2462
01:52:22,994 --> 01:52:25,754
Speaker 5: Yeah, and the Dolphins ran for one hundred ninety three

2463
01:52:25,794 --> 01:52:28,434
Speaker 5: yards when they didn't have any semblance of a passing

2464
01:52:28,474 --> 01:52:31,874
Speaker 5: game in the first meeting. So I think that they

2465
01:52:31,954 --> 01:52:34,034
Speaker 5: can stretch you that way too. And if you're going

2466
01:52:34,114 --> 01:52:36,274
Speaker 5: to play, you know a lot of man to man

2467
01:52:36,314 --> 01:52:38,754
Speaker 5: stuff and want to get maybe they stretch you out,

2468
01:52:38,754 --> 01:52:42,314
Speaker 5: they spread you out horizontally, maybe they gash you with

2469
01:52:42,354 --> 01:52:43,914
Speaker 5: the running game. They didn't have a Chan in that

2470
01:52:43,954 --> 01:52:46,314
Speaker 5: first game either. He left the game after three carries.

2471
01:52:46,314 --> 01:52:48,634
Speaker 5: He got a concussion right in the first quarter. So

2472
01:52:48,874 --> 01:52:51,114
Speaker 5: there's some weapons that Miami has that they didn't have.

2473
01:52:51,154 --> 01:52:55,794
Speaker 5: The tough, tough test for the defense. Yeah, Now I'm

2474
01:52:55,834 --> 01:52:58,834
Speaker 5: with Deuce. I would look at the positive aspects as

2475
01:52:59,514 --> 01:53:02,554
Speaker 5: you might be equipped to stay with them a little bit, right,

2476
01:53:02,554 --> 01:53:06,314
Speaker 5: whereas you weren't in the past. Right, because Drake May

2477
01:53:06,354 --> 01:53:08,114
Speaker 5: and the offense are showing signs of being able to

2478
01:53:08,154 --> 01:53:11,234
Speaker 5: get over twenty yeah, and they haven't really had that ability.

2479
01:53:11,594 --> 01:53:13,834
Speaker 6: I think you need to be over thirty probably to

2480
01:53:13,874 --> 01:53:14,434
Speaker 6: win the game.

2481
01:53:14,514 --> 01:53:16,754
Speaker 5: Probably, and I we'll see.

2482
01:53:16,794 --> 01:53:18,794
Speaker 6: But I'm with Paul, like I the way to win

2483
01:53:18,874 --> 01:53:20,674
Speaker 6: this game is to win a shootout. And I know

2484
01:53:20,754 --> 01:53:23,714
Speaker 6: that's crazy to say based off of the offense that

2485
01:53:23,754 --> 01:53:26,114
Speaker 6: we've seen over the last couple of years. But I

2486
01:53:26,154 --> 01:53:27,994
Speaker 6: just don't see how you get out of Miami giving

2487
01:53:28,074 --> 01:53:30,154
Speaker 6: up anything less than twenty eight. Like they're gonna make

2488
01:53:30,154 --> 01:53:32,674
Speaker 6: their plays on offense, and I think that you just

2489
01:53:32,714 --> 01:53:34,274
Speaker 6: got to hope Drake can make more.

2490
01:53:34,914 --> 01:53:38,114
Speaker 3: Okay, I agree? All right, Well listen, we're gonna end

2491
01:53:38,114 --> 01:53:42,434
Speaker 3: the show a little early. We'll have more on this tomorrow.

2492
01:53:42,474 --> 01:53:44,834
Speaker 5: Did you have a yuro No, no, nope.

2493
01:53:45,994 --> 01:53:48,754
Speaker 3: So we have the playbook coming up. Playbook coming up

2494
01:53:48,754 --> 01:53:51,914
Speaker 3: with John Rook and so we'll get to that after this.

2495
01:53:52,714 --> 01:53:55,314
Speaker 3: If you you know what, I'll take one more phone

2496
01:53:55,314 --> 01:53:57,794
Speaker 3: call because Riley has been holding on. He tried.

2497
01:53:57,954 --> 01:54:00,074
Speaker 5: Plus seven's here. Now you can answer his draft question.

2498
01:54:00,834 --> 01:54:03,354
Speaker 3: Let's go to Riley in Phoenix. We'll give it another tribe.

2499
01:54:03,354 --> 01:54:06,714
Speaker 3: We lost you last time. What's up Riley?

2500
01:54:07,114 --> 01:54:09,474
Speaker 7: Hey, guys, Yeah, I'm not quite sure what happened on that,

2501
01:54:09,794 --> 01:54:14,594
Speaker 7: but my question is related to a couple of players

2502
01:54:14,834 --> 01:54:18,634
Speaker 7: on the team. So a couple of things. First, I

2503
01:54:18,674 --> 01:54:21,354
Speaker 7: want to get your guys a thought on how the

2504
01:54:21,394 --> 01:54:24,954
Speaker 7: offense this coordinator is using. Antonio Gibson.

2505
01:54:25,914 --> 01:54:27,834
Speaker 16: I feel like he's.

2506
01:54:27,674 --> 01:54:30,754
Speaker 7: Definitely a lot more explosive whenever he's on the field

2507
01:54:30,834 --> 01:54:33,234
Speaker 7: compared to Ramandre. I know, you guys kind of touched

2508
01:54:33,234 --> 01:54:35,754
Speaker 7: on that a little bit yesterday. I think it was

2509
01:54:35,874 --> 01:54:39,314
Speaker 7: Paul that kind of pointed that out where he needs

2510
01:54:39,394 --> 01:54:43,634
Speaker 7: to break a tackle or you know, drift into that

2511
01:54:43,794 --> 01:54:47,074
Speaker 7: second gear, and it just doesn't seem like, for whatever reason,

2512
01:54:47,194 --> 01:54:49,834
Speaker 7: he's really got it. I don't know if it's attritionian

2513
01:54:50,034 --> 01:54:53,514
Speaker 7: or what, but it seems like every time Gibson's on

2514
01:54:53,554 --> 01:54:56,234
Speaker 7: the field, he runs good, and he runs hard and

2515
01:54:56,874 --> 01:55:00,394
Speaker 7: picks up some good yards. So that was my first thought.

2516
01:55:01,514 --> 01:55:05,834
Speaker 7: Second thought was how imperative do you think it is

2517
01:55:05,874 --> 01:55:09,514
Speaker 7: that we draft a tight end? I know, jaheem Bell

2518
01:55:09,634 --> 01:55:12,034
Speaker 7: played a little bit this last game, but obviously not

2519
01:55:12,234 --> 01:55:14,874
Speaker 7: very much, and obviously the hope is that he continues

2520
01:55:14,954 --> 01:55:18,394
Speaker 7: to develop. But I just kind of wanted to get

2521
01:55:18,394 --> 01:55:21,354
Speaker 7: your guys thoughts on that and see if you were

2522
01:55:21,394 --> 01:55:25,354
Speaker 7: open to bringing Austin Hooper back on the team or

2523
01:55:25,354 --> 01:55:29,674
Speaker 7: if we'd rather just pursue another veteran guy or possibly

2524
01:55:29,794 --> 01:55:34,274
Speaker 7: draft somebody. And that's pretty much all I got, all right, thanks.

2525
01:55:34,074 --> 01:55:36,074
Speaker 3: Riley, So two questions.

2526
01:55:36,554 --> 01:55:40,394
Speaker 5: Tight end's in need, no question, but if they can't

2527
01:55:40,434 --> 01:55:43,354
Speaker 5: get one, if they can't draft one. I'd be open

2528
01:55:43,434 --> 01:55:46,834
Speaker 5: to seeing if Hooper would stash or sure, yeah, to

2529
01:55:46,914 --> 01:55:49,794
Speaker 5: join Henry. I think those two guys have been pretty good.

2530
01:55:49,914 --> 01:55:51,554
Speaker 3: I think it's a need, but it's not as big

2531
01:55:51,594 --> 01:55:53,034
Speaker 3: a need as other areas.

2532
01:55:53,394 --> 01:55:55,114
Speaker 6: Yeah, I actually looked into this today. I think I'm

2533
01:55:55,154 --> 01:55:57,554
Speaker 6: going to write about them this week. They're fourth in

2534
01:55:57,594 --> 01:55:59,954
Speaker 6: the league and receiving yards from tight ends right now.

2535
01:56:00,274 --> 01:56:01,274
Speaker 5: Those two guys have been good.

2536
01:56:01,554 --> 01:56:04,754
Speaker 6: Yeah. They have seventy catches between Henry and Hooper, so

2537
01:56:04,874 --> 01:56:07,034
Speaker 6: his fourth in the league and seven hundred and twenty

2538
01:56:07,074 --> 01:56:09,274
Speaker 6: eight yards is also fourth in the league behind you know,

2539
01:56:09,754 --> 01:56:13,394
Speaker 6: Mark Andrews, Travis Kelcey brock Baller like behind the star

2540
01:56:13,474 --> 01:56:16,834
Speaker 6: tight ends. But as a duo, they've been pretty solid.

2541
01:56:16,834 --> 01:56:19,634
Speaker 6: And you know, look, I at this point you're probably

2542
01:56:19,634 --> 01:56:22,754
Speaker 6: not thinking about in season extensions, but like Austin Hooper

2543
01:56:22,834 --> 01:56:25,714
Speaker 6: is one that not for big money obviously, but I

2544
01:56:25,754 --> 01:56:28,314
Speaker 6: would bring him back, you know, on a reasonable contract,

2545
01:56:28,554 --> 01:56:29,594
Speaker 6: sure for sure.

2546
01:56:29,714 --> 01:56:30,354
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2547
01:56:30,354 --> 01:56:32,554
Speaker 5: So here's one thing that I've had in mind about,

2548
01:56:32,594 --> 01:56:36,354
Speaker 5: like ever since Alex van Pelt came. I think of

2549
01:56:36,794 --> 01:56:42,074
Speaker 5: that offense and when they're high powered, it's big plays

2550
01:56:42,114 --> 01:56:44,034
Speaker 5: to the tight end, and I don't think either one

2551
01:56:44,034 --> 01:56:46,634
Speaker 5: of those guys has that necessarily, you know, that David

2552
01:56:46,674 --> 01:56:50,674
Speaker 5: Nijoku skill set. So that's why I think maybe if

2553
01:56:50,714 --> 01:56:52,194
Speaker 5: you can upgrade and get you know, I don't I

2554
01:56:52,234 --> 01:56:54,474
Speaker 5: don't know if Jahem Belt could somehow.

2555
01:56:54,914 --> 01:56:56,474
Speaker 4: He has that some of those traits.

2556
01:56:56,474 --> 01:56:58,194
Speaker 5: He has that athletic skill set, but I don't know

2557
01:56:58,194 --> 01:57:01,394
Speaker 5: if he's good enough to do it something to really

2558
01:57:01,394 --> 01:57:03,714
Speaker 5: take advantage of Drake May's ability, because I think those

2559
01:57:03,754 --> 01:57:05,994
Speaker 5: plays will you know, Yeah, I thought it was interesting

2560
01:57:06,034 --> 01:57:08,314
Speaker 5: and I saw my show over here as we're getting

2561
01:57:08,354 --> 01:57:09,034
Speaker 5: ready to sign off.

2562
01:57:09,354 --> 01:57:11,754
Speaker 3: NBC Sports boss Albert Breer wrote a little bit.

2563
01:57:11,794 --> 01:57:13,234
Speaker 5: You know, he had a notebook yesterday and he had

2564
01:57:13,234 --> 01:57:17,274
Speaker 5: an like he was sort of asked around to some

2565
01:57:17,514 --> 01:57:20,114
Speaker 5: rival teams that have played the Patriots what they think

2566
01:57:20,154 --> 01:57:23,074
Speaker 5: of how Alex Van Pelt is handling Drake May. A

2567
01:57:23,074 --> 01:57:26,874
Speaker 5: lot of complimentary things from opposing coach is but one

2568
01:57:26,874 --> 01:57:29,394
Speaker 5: of the things that it mentioned is that he doesn't

2569
01:57:29,474 --> 01:57:31,794
Speaker 5: have the pieces yet to do some of the things

2570
01:57:31,794 --> 01:57:33,514
Speaker 5: that he likes to do. And that was one of

2571
01:57:33,554 --> 01:57:36,474
Speaker 5: the things I thought of those They haven't gotten the

2572
01:57:36,554 --> 01:57:40,034
Speaker 5: zone running really in gear right, They don't really have

2573
01:57:40,074 --> 01:57:43,794
Speaker 5: the offensive line to do that once they do. I

2574
01:57:43,874 --> 01:57:46,234
Speaker 5: look at Drake May and the way he's played and

2575
01:57:46,234 --> 01:57:48,354
Speaker 5: his you know, the way he moves around and can

2576
01:57:48,394 --> 01:57:50,794
Speaker 5: throw on the move and off platform and all that stuff.

2577
01:57:51,114 --> 01:57:53,514
Speaker 5: Those hard play actions are going to be big plays

2578
01:57:53,594 --> 01:57:57,474
Speaker 5: down the field. Hopefully this time next year, if you

2579
01:57:57,514 --> 01:57:59,874
Speaker 5: can get some pieces that can make those big plays

2580
01:57:59,914 --> 01:58:00,274
Speaker 5: for him.

2581
01:58:01,074 --> 01:58:05,194
Speaker 3: What about the Gibson verse Formandre comparison.

2582
01:58:05,154 --> 01:58:08,714
Speaker 6: It's gotta be something. It's got to be something about

2583
01:58:08,754 --> 01:58:11,314
Speaker 6: the playbook or the reads or something that he's not

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Speaker 6: grasping mentally, because I agree with the caller, like when

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Speaker 6: he gets the ball in space, he's their most dynamic runners.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and from a dead start, i'd like Remandre.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I unders like, you know, they run, They're gonna run

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Speaker 6: a screen like to a back or something like why

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Speaker 6: I maybe they think it's gonna be too predictable. I

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