WEBVTT - Bethany

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<v Speaker 1>At Southern Illinois University in the small city of Carbondale.

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<v Speaker 1>Three light brown towers our campus landmarks their high rise dorms.

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<v Speaker 1>A sophomore named Emily has moved into one of them.

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<v Speaker 1>I lived actually on the fifteenth floor, and the view

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<v Speaker 1>from up inside the towers that high up was just amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>I just always loved it, and of course at night

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<v Speaker 1>you could see all the lights from the city. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the fall of two thousand three. Emily is not her

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<v Speaker 1>real name, which she didn't want used. Emily and her

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<v Speaker 1>roommate share a bathroom with two freshmen. The four girls

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<v Speaker 1>are sweet mates, and as the semester goes on, they

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<v Speaker 1>get to know each other. One of the freshman sweet

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<v Speaker 1>mates is named Sarah, Sarah Delashman. She's from Highland, a

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<v Speaker 1>small town almost two hours north. She's here as a

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<v Speaker 1>pre med student. Sarah has short brown hair. It was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of dirty blonde or close to brown, and it

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<v Speaker 1>kind of looked a little bit feathered. She had glasses embraces.

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<v Speaker 1>If she owned makeup, I didn't know it because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think I ever saw her wear makeup before at all.

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<v Speaker 1>My previous two sweet mates the year before they were

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<v Speaker 1>nowhere nearest, friendly, and so Sarah kind of seemed a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit like a beam of sunshine. I guess you

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<v Speaker 1>could say Sarah doesn't talk about her family all that much.

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<v Speaker 1>I never saw it her dad. I think her dad

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<v Speaker 1>was not in a picture, and I don't remember if

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<v Speaker 1>he had passed away or it was, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>a divorce situation. I never saw her mom ever, which

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of interesting because she lived about maybe an

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<v Speaker 1>hour and a half, maybe closer to two hours. Her

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<v Speaker 1>cousin had brought her newborn baby, and that's the only

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<v Speaker 1>time I think that I remember she had any family

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<v Speaker 1>that came and visited him. Not long into the semester,

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah walks into Emily's room. I think it was about

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<v Speaker 1>maybe October or so when she came and told us that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that she had leukemia. Leukemia. No one takes

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<v Speaker 1>the news of Sarah's cancer harder than her roommate, the

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<v Speaker 1>other freshman of the bunch. She was one of those

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<v Speaker 1>friends that if you were crossing the street and she

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<v Speaker 1>saw that the bus was about to hit you, she

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<v Speaker 1>would have jumped in the way to save her friend.

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<v Speaker 1>She was going to support her no matter what she

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<v Speaker 1>was That close with Sarah. The semester goes on. They

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<v Speaker 1>come and go from class, and Sarah makes sure that

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<v Speaker 1>nobody forgets about her cancer. One day, Sarah talks about

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<v Speaker 1>how she's starting to lose her hair and maybe she

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<v Speaker 1>should just go ahead and cut it all off. They

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<v Speaker 1>all gather in Emily's room with hers, roll back the rug,

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<v Speaker 1>and get ready to give Sarah a haircut. At the

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<v Speaker 1>last minute, though she backs out. She never says why,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know who doesn't back out, her roommate. She

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<v Speaker 1>chops off her hair and a show of support. One day,

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah suggests they watch a movie called A Walk to Remember.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a teen romance and the lead female character is

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<v Speaker 1>dying from cancer. It's the kind of cancer story that

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<v Speaker 1>you might see on the Hallmark channel. I'm sick, I'm sick. Aprkemia.

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<v Speaker 1>Emily isn't so sure this is a good idea. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we were told by Sarah and her roommate that it

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<v Speaker 1>was fine, that they were going to be okay, they

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<v Speaker 1>were going to hold themselves together, and it was completely

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<v Speaker 1>the opposite. By the time the movie was over, the

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<v Speaker 1>room was dark except for the light of the TV

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<v Speaker 1>and off in the corner. The movie ended with Sarah

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<v Speaker 1>and her roommate crumpled on the floor, hugging each other,

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<v Speaker 1>crying together. It was a bad idea not to intervene.

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<v Speaker 1>The school year ends, everyone scatters for the summer. Emily

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<v Speaker 1>and Sarah decide to room together when they come back

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<v Speaker 1>in the fall. One evening in July, Emily is at

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<v Speaker 1>a wedding, and then during the reception, I get a

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<v Speaker 1>call from Sarah that she's been in a car accident,

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<v Speaker 1>and a bad one at that. She said that she

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<v Speaker 1>was going to have to have her back fused. If

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<v Speaker 1>I could almost paraphrase how she said, you know, I've

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<v Speaker 1>been in a car accident and I'm in a wheelchair,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know if I'm gonna be able to

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<v Speaker 1>walk again. Emily doesn't see Sarah until the start of

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<v Speaker 1>the new fall term. They agree on a move in time,

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<v Speaker 1>but when Emily gets there and opens the door, she

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<v Speaker 1>discovers that Sarah has surprised her by moving in early.

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<v Speaker 1>Here the door start to open and she's in a wheelchair.

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<v Speaker 1>And not only is she a wheelchair, she's a She's

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<v Speaker 1>an emmanual wheelchair and not an electric wheelchair. She also

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<v Speaker 1>had this heavy plastic, medical looking back brace that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of fit around her almost like a corset would. After

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<v Speaker 1>school starts, Sarah isn't around all that much. She just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of disappeared for a day, or disappear for two days,

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<v Speaker 1>and I barely saw her. But then one day she

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<v Speaker 1>started talking to me, and she was laying on her bed,

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<v Speaker 1>and I turned around in my chair um to face

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<v Speaker 1>her in the window, and I looked back at her,

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<v Speaker 1>and she was smiling, talking, But the way that she

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<v Speaker 1>was laying on the bed looked really strange, because she

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<v Speaker 1>was laying like you were laying on your stomach, propping

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<v Speaker 1>your your elbows up like you were flipping through a magazine,

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<v Speaker 1>and like you had your feet kind of flipped up

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<v Speaker 1>towards the ceiling. And I just remember looking at her,

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<v Speaker 1>watching her smiling and with his fused back of hers.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, I don't know how she's this comfortable laying

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<v Speaker 1>on the bed like she is. But that was the

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<v Speaker 1>turning point that something is off. Emily and Sarah start

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<v Speaker 1>to not get along, typical roommates not clicking. Emily moves out,

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<v Speaker 1>leaving Sarah to fend for herself and the wheelchair in

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<v Speaker 1>the back brace a few weeks later, Emily walks through

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<v Speaker 1>the double doors of a dining hall, and there she is.

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<v Speaker 1>I see Sarah at the top of the stairs, and

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<v Speaker 1>she is not in a wheelchair, she is not in

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<v Speaker 1>a back brace. She's in jeans and a T shirt.

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<v Speaker 1>Students scurry two and throw all around them, But for

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<v Speaker 1>Emily and Sarah time stops. Everything else around me just

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<v Speaker 1>seems to disappear just as I step into the dining hall,

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<v Speaker 1>looking up at her. And I looked at her, and

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<v Speaker 1>she saw me, and she looked at me kind of

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<v Speaker 1>with a blank stare. It wasn't a sad thing, it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't a mean face or anything. It was just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of blank, and it seemed like everything else faded away,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was like the only thing that was going

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<v Speaker 1>on was just the two of us kind of staring

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<v Speaker 1>at each other. Emily walks up the stairs past Sarah,

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<v Speaker 1>neither of them saying a word. And I turned the

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<v Speaker 1>corner to head to where the mailboxes were, and curiosity

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<v Speaker 1>got the better of me, and I turned back to

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<v Speaker 1>look at her. And she hadn't moved, you, like her

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<v Speaker 1>feet or anything, but she had still turned and looked

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<v Speaker 1>at me with that's aim look, it was game over,

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<v Speaker 1>but her game was far from over. The worst part

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<v Speaker 1>is I found out much, much, much, much later that

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<v Speaker 1>it morphed into something so sinister and hurtful than I

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<v Speaker 1>never imagined. We were warm up, you know, we were practiced.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a reason why Emily doesn't want us to use

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<v Speaker 1>her name. She's hoping Sarah has forgotten it. She doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>want Sarah to ever find her. You're telling a story

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<v Speaker 1>about someone who's such a masterminded lying, and you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>no one's going to believe this story. I mean, it

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<v Speaker 1>just sounds crazy to even think of, Like some of

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<v Speaker 1>the stuff that had happened. Emily never saw Sarah again.

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<v Speaker 1>But over the years, Sarah got better and better at

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<v Speaker 1>insinuating herself into online support groups for people with illnesses

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<v Speaker 1>or charities that help patients should find a way into

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<v Speaker 1>people's hearts and lives. She obviously kept many, many, many

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<v Speaker 1>stories straight for a very very long time. She did

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<v Speaker 1>a good job of fooling a lot of people for

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<v Speaker 1>a really long time, until the day she told one

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<v Speaker 1>lie too many. This was a case that victims were

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<v Speaker 1>very passionate about. You know, Sarah can go to prison,

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<v Speaker 1>someone can lock her up for a crime, but where

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<v Speaker 1>is the law? The law doesn't account for the trauma.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a story told by the victims of what

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<v Speaker 1>may seem like a victimless crime. Sarah delash Miant wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>really after money or power. She needed something far more complicated,

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<v Speaker 1>and what she stole from everyone who trusted her and

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<v Speaker 1>believed her in the end was far more valuable than money.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Laura Beale. You're listening to Sympathy Pains. This is

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<v Speaker 1>episode one. Bethany. I've been a medical journalist for a

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<v Speaker 1>really long time, so long that there are times when

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<v Speaker 1>I think that nothing is really going to surprise me anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Until it does. Until you pull a string and just

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<v Speaker 1>keep pulling and pulling, trying to make sense of things,

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<v Speaker 1>and in the end you're left in a place that

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't expect to be. This is one of those stories.

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<v Speaker 1>Bethany Turner lives in Indianapolis with her young daughter. She

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<v Speaker 1>has a round face and soft brown eyes. She's thirty

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<v Speaker 1>one years old. She grew up here in a tight

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<v Speaker 1>knit religious family, pretty sheltered until she went to college

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<v Speaker 1>in Chattanooga, Tennessee. Bethany is one of those people who

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<v Speaker 1>not only recognizes pain and injustice. She feels it down

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<v Speaker 1>to her bones. She's drawn to people in need, people

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<v Speaker 1>who live in the invisible margins of society. You're helping

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<v Speaker 1>yourself along the way to because every one of those

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<v Speaker 1>situations I walked out of I felt like I gained

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<v Speaker 1>more than I was giving. It's it's an environment where

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<v Speaker 1>you get to learn from each other, but feel like

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<v Speaker 1>you're bettering a community too. In two thousand and fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>she was looking for the next place she could serve.

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<v Speaker 1>I just finished up a term with AmeriCorps. I had

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<v Speaker 1>done a year with them working with children in South Florida.

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<v Speaker 1>I had traveled abroad and done some um teaching. I

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<v Speaker 1>was searching for the kindness. I was searching for the humanity.

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<v Speaker 1>I was searching for the community. Scrolling through the Internet,

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<v Speaker 1>she started reading about a place in Texas called Camp Summit. Today,

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<v Speaker 1>it spans out of our almost five acres, near a

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<v Speaker 1>town called No Joke Paradise. It's been around in some

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<v Speaker 1>form since the nineteen forties. It's a place where adults

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<v Speaker 1>with disabilities can spend a week soaking in the outdoors,

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<v Speaker 1>doing the kind of stuff that society usually makes hard

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<v Speaker 1>for them, like swimming or putting on a talent show.

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<v Speaker 1>This resonated with Bethany. She had had an uncle who

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<v Speaker 1>was disabled and a friend in college who was too.

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<v Speaker 1>That friend especially gave Bethany a whole new perspective. She

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<v Speaker 1>encouraged her to not be afraid of being bold. She

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<v Speaker 1>just really challenged me to be better and try different

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<v Speaker 1>things and not make excuses. The moment Bethany drove through

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<v Speaker 1>the gates of Camp Summit and onto the gravel driveway,

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<v Speaker 1>she knew this is where she needed to be. You

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<v Speaker 1>come in and there everything in campus surrounded by trees.

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<v Speaker 1>There's um some little walkways back in there where we

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<v Speaker 1>would take hikes into the woods a little bit, and

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<v Speaker 1>they had some areas that were set up for bonfires.

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<v Speaker 1>The boys camp is on the right, so there's five

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<v Speaker 1>or six, I'd say five, maybe cabins, just a typical

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<v Speaker 1>old school camp house. Campers could ride horses, shoot arrows,

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<v Speaker 1>even go down a zip line. A lot of them

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<v Speaker 1>told me it was their vacation, which hadn't really occurred

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<v Speaker 1>to me until they said that out loud. That you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they live in assisted living homes, or they live with

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<v Speaker 1>caregivers or they've lived with family their whole life, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is there one or two times a year where

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<v Speaker 1>they can take a week to go be with friends

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<v Speaker 1>and and it be a completely accessible experience. For many

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<v Speaker 1>of the campers, it's the best week of their lives. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the best week of anybody's life that gets to go.

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<v Speaker 1>To be honest with you, I mean, the staff loves

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<v Speaker 1>it just as much, if not more, than the campers do.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a very sacred community. Sacred community. I've

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<v Speaker 1>heard this phrase a lot while working on this story.

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<v Speaker 1>You passed that gate and everybody's just kind of their

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<v Speaker 1>own chaotic mess, laughing and hugging, and I have have

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<v Speaker 1>never experienced so many hugs and so much laughter in

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<v Speaker 1>my life. And the lasting friendships that came out of

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<v Speaker 1>just those few weeks of being there, I think are

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<v Speaker 1>going to be lifelong. The new camp burs arrived on Sundays.

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<v Speaker 1>During one session in the fall of two thousand fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>Bethany and the other counselors were roaming through the cabin,

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<v Speaker 1>which was bustling with the chatter and activity of unpacking.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the campers was in a power wheelchair in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of the room. Yeah, I remember her wearing

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of like soft pink and soft clothes. She

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<v Speaker 1>told the counselor she had muscular dystrophee. She could hold

0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:30.800
<v Speaker 1>herself upright, but could barely move from the neck down.

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<v Speaker 1>Just a little bit of arm control enough to work

0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:36.280
<v Speaker 1>the toggle on her chair was all she could manage.

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<v Speaker 1>Her name was Sarah. She was thirty years old. She

0:14:41.720 --> 0:14:43.920
<v Speaker 1>said she had her nursing license and lived with her

0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:47.320
<v Speaker 1>mom in southern Illinois, in a town not far from St. Louis.

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<v Speaker 1>She kind of came across with someone who hadn't experienced

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<v Speaker 1>a lot outside of her small town in Illinois. Bethany

0:14:54.680 --> 0:14:58.880
<v Speaker 1>drifted from camper to camper, helping organize their bedding and clothes.

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<v Speaker 1>So of the caregivers was already helping her unpack everything

0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:04.320
<v Speaker 1>because she was basically just kind of pointing where she

0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:07.040
<v Speaker 1>wanted things and organized. And she had she brought a

0:15:07.080 --> 0:15:09.840
<v Speaker 1>c pat machine, so that she was talking to her

0:15:09.840 --> 0:15:11.920
<v Speaker 1>about how to set that up. And she pointed over

0:15:11.960 --> 0:15:14.040
<v Speaker 1>at the separate suitcase and she said, open that one.

0:15:14.480 --> 0:15:16.120
<v Speaker 1>It has some other things in there. For the cabin.

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<v Speaker 1>She had a bunch of crafts and things that we

0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:21.600
<v Speaker 1>could do. I think she had maybe even some snacks

0:15:21.640 --> 0:15:24.040
<v Speaker 1>for us. Of course, then everyone else in the cabinet

0:15:24.120 --> 0:15:25.880
<v Speaker 1>is immediately drawn to her and want to see what

0:15:25.920 --> 0:15:28.600
<v Speaker 1>was in there. The treats were a draw, but so

0:15:28.760 --> 0:15:32.360
<v Speaker 1>was she. She seemed like a very good friend to everyone.

0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:34.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean she showed up day one with crafts and

0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:37.440
<v Speaker 1>things ready to go. I mean, I'm definitely not that

0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:40.400
<v Speaker 1>friend most days that I come prepared with, you know,

0:15:40.520 --> 0:15:43.120
<v Speaker 1>thoughtful gifts and things. And so she just she set

0:15:43.200 --> 0:15:48.800
<v Speaker 1>this aura in the camp. Because of Sarah's circumstances, the

0:15:48.920 --> 0:15:52.720
<v Speaker 1>counselors had to do everything for her, dress her, cut

0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:56.200
<v Speaker 1>her food into bite sized pieces, even change her feminine

0:15:56.280 --> 0:15:59.920
<v Speaker 1>hygiene products. They bathed her two and she liked to

0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:05.080
<v Speaker 1>shower every evening. I'm five one two, and she was

0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:08.440
<v Speaker 1>significantly bigger and taller than me and the other two caregivers.

0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:11.280
<v Speaker 1>So whoever was lifting her from the front, it's really

0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:13.680
<v Speaker 1>hard to describe, but essentially it's, you know, kind of

0:16:13.680 --> 0:16:15.720
<v Speaker 1>a dead lift to get the weight off of your back.

0:16:16.160 --> 0:16:18.120
<v Speaker 1>But the way she would land, because of her height

0:16:18.200 --> 0:16:20.800
<v Speaker 1>and her weight and her inability to help at all,

0:16:22.080 --> 0:16:25.080
<v Speaker 1>our spines were going the wrong direction, and just the

0:16:25.120 --> 0:16:29.000
<v Speaker 1>weight on the top of our shoulders. But they did it.

0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:32.360
<v Speaker 1>It's why they were there. And as time went on,

0:16:32.760 --> 0:16:37.200
<v Speaker 1>Bethany and Sarah drew closer and closer, until their lives

0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:44.680
<v Speaker 1>became interwoven in unexpected ways. Bethany gave everything she had

0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:47.560
<v Speaker 1>to make sure that Sarah had the kind of vacation

0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:50.360
<v Speaker 1>she came for. It was just a really empowering week

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<v Speaker 1>for a lot of reasons. She got to participate in

0:16:52.400 --> 0:16:55.560
<v Speaker 1>some camp traditions and things. I remember all of the

0:16:55.600 --> 0:16:59.720
<v Speaker 1>conversations of what she didn't have. She didn't have the

0:16:59.720 --> 0:17:02.000
<v Speaker 1>abilitlity to move out on her own and you know,

0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:07.160
<v Speaker 1>have roommates. She wanted to experience freedom, and she really

0:17:07.240 --> 0:17:09.760
<v Speaker 1>wanted to go down the zip line. It's maybe a

0:17:09.800 --> 0:17:12.440
<v Speaker 1>ten second ride. It assumed really fast, but we would

0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:16.600
<v Speaker 1>put her power wheelchair underneath the zip line. There was

0:17:16.680 --> 0:17:19.720
<v Speaker 1>kind of a sack. It has four points with some

0:17:20.240 --> 0:17:22.240
<v Speaker 1>carabineers on it. To be able to lift her with

0:17:22.320 --> 0:17:26.639
<v Speaker 1>some rope out of the power wheelchair and onto the

0:17:26.720 --> 0:17:31.320
<v Speaker 1>zip line. Getting her onto the zip line took a

0:17:31.320 --> 0:17:35.679
<v Speaker 1>lot of staff and delayed activities for other campers. She

0:17:35.800 --> 0:17:37.840
<v Speaker 1>just kept throwing her neck back. There was a lot

0:17:37.880 --> 0:17:39.840
<v Speaker 1>of concern on letting her do this, because she was

0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:42.760
<v Speaker 1>not giving us any assistance. But she finally did it

0:17:42.880 --> 0:17:46.679
<v Speaker 1>and went across and they lowered her down onto the

0:17:46.760 --> 0:17:49.560
<v Speaker 1>deck to unhook the carabineers. And remember her just laying

0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:52.880
<v Speaker 1>there and just sobbing. It felt like such a big

0:17:52.920 --> 0:17:56.679
<v Speaker 1>moment for her. Through it all, Bethany was there for

0:17:56.760 --> 0:18:01.600
<v Speaker 1>the triumphs and the fireside hard hearts. Sara seemed to

0:18:01.640 --> 0:18:04.000
<v Speaker 1>make a point of having one on one time with

0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:08.000
<v Speaker 1>the staff. She was very intentional with her friendships from

0:18:08.040 --> 0:18:11.280
<v Speaker 1>the get go, and I think I just am drawn

0:18:11.320 --> 0:18:15.280
<v Speaker 1>to deep conversation anyway. And so I mean, she told

0:18:15.320 --> 0:18:17.800
<v Speaker 1>me about her home life and things like that and

0:18:18.040 --> 0:18:20.320
<v Speaker 1>college friends and feels like you're packing all these things

0:18:20.359 --> 0:18:23.280
<v Speaker 1>into one week, and so it felt much more heartfelt.

0:18:23.720 --> 0:18:26.119
<v Speaker 1>And then when you all parted at the end of

0:18:26.119 --> 0:18:31.200
<v Speaker 1>the week, what was that goodbye? Like very tearful. We

0:18:31.200 --> 0:18:33.800
<v Speaker 1>were all really sad to see that weekend. Um, we've

0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:37.440
<v Speaker 1>seen a lot of bonding and new relationships formed and things.

0:18:37.480 --> 0:18:41.399
<v Speaker 1>And so I remember Sarah leaving. She was telling one

0:18:41.440 --> 0:18:44.040
<v Speaker 1>of the other campers that she was going to fly

0:18:44.119 --> 0:18:46.879
<v Speaker 1>back to St. Louis, that she had to leave early

0:18:47.000 --> 0:18:51.840
<v Speaker 1>that day, to catch a flight. The goodbye would not

0:18:52.080 --> 0:18:57.000
<v Speaker 1>last for long, as autumn wound down and the weather

0:18:57.040 --> 0:19:01.800
<v Speaker 1>turned cooler. Camp ended, The cow Stlors packed up and dispersed.

0:19:02.560 --> 0:19:05.080
<v Speaker 1>One group made plans to head up to Colorado to

0:19:05.119 --> 0:19:08.280
<v Speaker 1>work at the resorts for the upcoming ski season. We

0:19:08.280 --> 0:19:10.200
<v Speaker 1>were going to kind of do that for a season

0:19:10.200 --> 0:19:12.080
<v Speaker 1>and figure out what we wanted to do in the spring.

0:19:12.640 --> 0:19:16.040
<v Speaker 1>Sarah was calling and texting and sending gifts to all

0:19:16.080 --> 0:19:18.000
<v Speaker 1>of us. I think I was the one that was

0:19:18.000 --> 0:19:22.840
<v Speaker 1>probably communicating with her the most frequently. Thanksgiving week, Bethany

0:19:22.960 --> 0:19:26.200
<v Speaker 1>and her family were on a road trip. Bethany realized

0:19:26.240 --> 0:19:29.320
<v Speaker 1>that they'd be passing close to Sarah's home in Illinois.

0:19:29.960 --> 0:19:32.920
<v Speaker 1>We met her at a cracker barrel at the outskirts

0:19:32.960 --> 0:19:35.960
<v Speaker 1>of her town. She was already waiting at the restaurant

0:19:36.000 --> 0:19:39.600
<v Speaker 1>when they arrived. My family introduced themselves, and uh we

0:19:39.640 --> 0:19:41.840
<v Speaker 1>sat down at a table, and I remember she ordered

0:19:41.920 --> 0:19:44.720
<v Speaker 1>like a thing. It was like a fried chicken or something,

0:19:44.760 --> 0:19:46.880
<v Speaker 1>and so I cut everything up for you know, gave

0:19:46.880 --> 0:19:50.639
<v Speaker 1>her the straw. It was like camp all over again,

0:19:51.200 --> 0:19:53.280
<v Speaker 1>and we sat there in giggled. I remember she was

0:19:53.359 --> 0:19:55.800
<v Speaker 1>in a great mood, super friendly, and bubbly with my family.

0:19:56.200 --> 0:19:58.440
<v Speaker 1>We got ready to leave, and her story was that

0:19:58.480 --> 0:20:00.639
<v Speaker 1>her mom had dropped her off and her mom had

0:20:00.680 --> 0:20:04.720
<v Speaker 1>to take her nephews to their Saturday basketball game, and

0:20:04.720 --> 0:20:06.280
<v Speaker 1>then when she got done with that, her mom was

0:20:06.280 --> 0:20:07.800
<v Speaker 1>gonna come pick her up. But that was why she

0:20:07.840 --> 0:20:09.960
<v Speaker 1>wanted to drop her off at Cracker Barrel, because at

0:20:10.040 --> 0:20:12.560
<v Speaker 1>least Sarah could stay somewhere kind of in a lobby

0:20:12.720 --> 0:20:15.240
<v Speaker 1>area and hang out. I hugged her, took a couple

0:20:15.240 --> 0:20:17.040
<v Speaker 1>of pictures, and then my family and I got on

0:20:17.080 --> 0:20:18.560
<v Speaker 1>the road. She said she had talked to her mom

0:20:18.600 --> 0:20:19.720
<v Speaker 1>and her mom was gonna be there in a few

0:20:19.720 --> 0:20:22.719
<v Speaker 1>minutes and I was just running late. Shortly after Bethany

0:20:22.840 --> 0:20:27.480
<v Speaker 1>arrived in Colorado, her life changed dramatically. I found out

0:20:27.480 --> 0:20:29.920
<v Speaker 1>I was pregnant, so I got a plane ticket back

0:20:29.920 --> 0:20:33.240
<v Speaker 1>to Chattanooga to kind of figure that out. And that

0:20:33.280 --> 0:20:35.840
<v Speaker 1>was really when my friendship with her took off. Was

0:20:36.359 --> 0:20:38.320
<v Speaker 1>her calling and texting all the time, checking on me

0:20:38.320 --> 0:20:41.520
<v Speaker 1>and the baby and asking about things that were going on.

0:20:42.240 --> 0:20:46.160
<v Speaker 1>Bethany was preparing for life as a single mom. I

0:20:46.200 --> 0:20:49.639
<v Speaker 1>was in such a raw, vulnerable place in my life,

0:20:49.920 --> 0:20:52.080
<v Speaker 1>and I felt like she was offering to be a

0:20:52.480 --> 0:20:56.239
<v Speaker 1>new foundation and a new friend. I cried to her

0:20:56.240 --> 0:21:00.280
<v Speaker 1>a lot about different hiccups that were happening about the

0:21:00.280 --> 0:21:04.400
<v Speaker 1>pregnancy and different things that were just really hard situations,

0:21:04.440 --> 0:21:08.040
<v Speaker 1>and she would always cry with me, is what I

0:21:08.080 --> 0:21:10.760
<v Speaker 1>remember now, like looking back on all those conversations, Like

0:21:10.800 --> 0:21:12.680
<v Speaker 1>if I was happy and I was doing well, then

0:21:12.680 --> 0:21:14.960
<v Speaker 1>so was she. You know. If I was happy with

0:21:15.000 --> 0:21:16.639
<v Speaker 1>work and I had a really good day, then so

0:21:16.720 --> 0:21:18.600
<v Speaker 1>did she. But if if we got on the phone

0:21:18.640 --> 0:21:21.399
<v Speaker 1>and she asked about something that was a little sore

0:21:21.480 --> 0:21:23.679
<v Speaker 1>for me at the moment and I started crying, then

0:21:23.720 --> 0:21:27.760
<v Speaker 1>she'd start crying. For a long distance friendship, it quickly

0:21:27.800 --> 0:21:32.359
<v Speaker 1>moved to unvarnished emotion. Sarah talked about how lonely she

0:21:32.560 --> 0:21:37.840
<v Speaker 1>was because she didn't have friends out there, and how

0:21:37.880 --> 0:21:39.960
<v Speaker 1>the friends that she did have, you know, didn't want

0:21:40.000 --> 0:21:42.000
<v Speaker 1>to invite her to go do things because they wanted

0:21:42.040 --> 0:21:44.199
<v Speaker 1>to go out to the bars, for example, and they

0:21:44.240 --> 0:21:45.960
<v Speaker 1>didn't know where they wanted to go to a restaurant,

0:21:45.960 --> 0:21:48.320
<v Speaker 1>but they didn't know how to transfer Sarah if Sarah

0:21:48.359 --> 0:21:51.440
<v Speaker 1>had to go to the restroom. Bethany was also on

0:21:51.440 --> 0:21:55.120
<v Speaker 1>her own preparing for the day when she would suddenly

0:21:55.560 --> 0:21:57.639
<v Speaker 1>not be I just remember there being a lot of

0:21:57.720 --> 0:21:59.720
<v Speaker 1>days where between, you know, trying to figure out how

0:21:59.760 --> 0:22:02.080
<v Speaker 1>am I going to financially support this child. I need

0:22:02.119 --> 0:22:04.560
<v Speaker 1>to find a place to live, I need to find

0:22:04.600 --> 0:22:07.480
<v Speaker 1>a better steady income and figure out how to get

0:22:07.480 --> 0:22:09.600
<v Speaker 1>her and you know, some sort of childcare so that

0:22:09.640 --> 0:22:12.320
<v Speaker 1>I could, Like there were all of the emotions that

0:22:12.359 --> 0:22:16.080
<v Speaker 1>are attached to anything that deals with any of that.

0:22:16.080 --> 0:22:19.080
<v Speaker 1>It was a lot of stress and anxiety and sleepless

0:22:19.160 --> 0:22:22.520
<v Speaker 1>nights and crying, and at every point of that, Sarah

0:22:22.800 --> 0:22:27.120
<v Speaker 1>tried to involve herself and cry with me and reflect

0:22:27.160 --> 0:22:30.320
<v Speaker 1>the same emotions as if she understood. I started to

0:22:30.359 --> 0:22:33.320
<v Speaker 1>feel an obligation to my friendship with her because of

0:22:33.320 --> 0:22:35.920
<v Speaker 1>the tears and because of what she was asking for

0:22:35.960 --> 0:22:39.120
<v Speaker 1>from me, just at an emotional level, and I knew

0:22:39.160 --> 0:22:44.760
<v Speaker 1>that she was also doing that for me. It felt

0:22:44.800 --> 0:22:48.840
<v Speaker 1>like they were two women, each providing a stabilizing force

0:22:48.960 --> 0:22:53.000
<v Speaker 1>during a time of uncertainty. There was one weird thing, though,

0:22:53.400 --> 0:22:56.879
<v Speaker 1>something that wouldn't make sense to Bethany until years later.

0:22:57.359 --> 0:22:59.840
<v Speaker 1>I remember her asking several times for my ultrasounds, and

0:23:00.320 --> 0:23:03.480
<v Speaker 1>I was always driving when she asked me, and I go, yeah, yeah,

0:23:03.600 --> 0:23:04.920
<v Speaker 1>when I park, you know, when I get to where

0:23:04.920 --> 0:23:06.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm going, I'll send it. I always forgot to send it.

0:23:06.680 --> 0:23:08.680
<v Speaker 1>She kept pestering me about the ultrasound, and I started

0:23:08.720 --> 0:23:10.000
<v Speaker 1>to get to a point where I felt bad because

0:23:10.040 --> 0:23:12.600
<v Speaker 1>it was just pregnancy brain. I just kept forgetting to

0:23:12.640 --> 0:23:19.840
<v Speaker 1>send it to her, but she asked multiple times. During

0:23:19.880 --> 0:23:23.960
<v Speaker 1>their conversations. Sarah was making plans to return to Camp

0:23:24.000 --> 0:23:27.080
<v Speaker 1>Summit for the spring session. We talked a lot the

0:23:27.119 --> 0:23:29.359
<v Speaker 1>two prior weeks before she went to camp, but she

0:23:29.440 --> 0:23:31.440
<v Speaker 1>was anxious about it because it wasn't going to be

0:23:31.480 --> 0:23:33.720
<v Speaker 1>the same staff, and so I think Sarah was really

0:23:33.800 --> 0:23:36.480
<v Speaker 1>nervous about whether or not they were going to have

0:23:36.480 --> 0:23:39.399
<v Speaker 1>the same level of expertise with the care, if it

0:23:39.440 --> 0:23:41.560
<v Speaker 1>was going to be as smooth as it was In

0:23:41.600 --> 0:23:45.159
<v Speaker 1>the spring of two thousand sixteen, Sarah went back to

0:23:45.280 --> 0:23:49.280
<v Speaker 1>Camp Summit just after lunchtime sometime early afternoon. I was

0:23:49.359 --> 0:23:52.960
<v Speaker 1>driving to my job and I got a call from

0:23:52.960 --> 0:23:56.479
<v Speaker 1>a Texas number that I didn't have saved. It was

0:23:56.640 --> 0:23:59.840
<v Speaker 1>the assistant director at the time, and she said, Hey,

0:23:59.840 --> 0:24:02.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm so sorry to call you like this. She said,

0:24:02.840 --> 0:24:06.600
<v Speaker 1>yours was the hardest call to make. Bethany had just

0:24:06.800 --> 0:24:10.000
<v Speaker 1>pulled into the parking lot. She stopped the car and

0:24:10.080 --> 0:24:13.520
<v Speaker 1>braced herself. There's a staff alumni page for the camp,

0:24:13.560 --> 0:24:17.240
<v Speaker 1>and it's very very frequently that they'll post something about

0:24:17.880 --> 0:24:19.960
<v Speaker 1>former campers who have passed. So I thought that was

0:24:19.960 --> 0:24:24.080
<v Speaker 1>where the conversation was going. I had no idea, she said, Bethany,

0:24:24.119 --> 0:24:25.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm so sorry that I have to be the one

0:24:25.960 --> 0:24:29.359
<v Speaker 1>to tell you this. She said, Sarah was here this week,

0:24:29.760 --> 0:24:32.240
<v Speaker 1>and uh, I said, yeah, I know. We've we've kept

0:24:32.280 --> 0:24:35.800
<v Speaker 1>in contact. She told Bethany that they had been contacted

0:24:35.840 --> 0:24:39.400
<v Speaker 1>by a pastor from Illinois a few weeks earlier. He

0:24:39.480 --> 0:24:43.200
<v Speaker 1>was inquiring about Sarah's relationship with camp and just wanted

0:24:43.240 --> 0:24:45.160
<v Speaker 1>to know if she was going to be down there

0:24:45.880 --> 0:24:49.040
<v Speaker 1>during certain weeks as a volunteer. And so some of

0:24:49.080 --> 0:24:52.360
<v Speaker 1>the staff had gotten involved in this conversation and said, well,

0:24:52.359 --> 0:24:55.199
<v Speaker 1>know she's here as she's coming as a camper. And

0:24:55.480 --> 0:24:58.639
<v Speaker 1>this pastor said, well, I am a pastor of some

0:24:58.720 --> 0:25:02.680
<v Speaker 1>of her relatives, and she's been caught in a lot

0:25:02.720 --> 0:25:04.840
<v Speaker 1>of lies before and we've tried to catch her and

0:25:04.880 --> 0:25:07.520
<v Speaker 1>she's always been able to sneak her way out. He

0:25:07.640 --> 0:25:10.440
<v Speaker 1>even had proof to back up what he was claiming.

0:25:10.760 --> 0:25:13.280
<v Speaker 1>Here's examples of her social media posts. Here's a picture

0:25:13.359 --> 0:25:16.800
<v Speaker 1>of her skiing in Colorado with her mom. Bethany gripped

0:25:16.800 --> 0:25:20.840
<v Speaker 1>the phone tighter, almost unable to breathe. She stared out

0:25:20.840 --> 0:25:25.359
<v Speaker 1>of the windshield. Everything was going blurry. What the camp

0:25:25.400 --> 0:25:27.280
<v Speaker 1>had agreed to do because the pastor and a couple

0:25:27.320 --> 0:25:29.439
<v Speaker 1>of family members said, can you please just let us

0:25:29.480 --> 0:25:32.359
<v Speaker 1>come and confront her at camp, because we've tried and

0:25:32.400 --> 0:25:34.960
<v Speaker 1>tried to get her help, and we've tried to confront

0:25:35.000 --> 0:25:37.560
<v Speaker 1>her in the lies, and we know that things like

0:25:37.600 --> 0:25:40.520
<v Speaker 1>this have been going on, and so what camp agreed

0:25:40.560 --> 0:25:45.160
<v Speaker 1>to do was to facilitate an interaction between them during

0:25:45.160 --> 0:25:47.640
<v Speaker 1>an activity where none of the other campers would see,

0:25:48.040 --> 0:25:52.880
<v Speaker 1>which was extremely extremely important to the staff. The pastor

0:25:53.040 --> 0:25:56.160
<v Speaker 1>told the camp employees when they would be coming. As

0:25:56.200 --> 0:25:58.560
<v Speaker 1>the staff waited in the office, they saw a van

0:25:58.720 --> 0:26:02.240
<v Speaker 1>come down the drive and stop. They radioed for Sarah

0:26:02.280 --> 0:26:05.159
<v Speaker 1>to come to the office. A couple of family members

0:26:05.160 --> 0:26:07.640
<v Speaker 1>in her pastor got out of the van. Sarah pulled

0:26:07.680 --> 0:26:10.960
<v Speaker 1>up in her wheelchair, saw who it was, and camp

0:26:11.000 --> 0:26:12.480
<v Speaker 1>staff told me. She got up out of the chair,

0:26:12.560 --> 0:26:14.400
<v Speaker 1>got in the van, shut the door, and they drove off.

0:26:19.680 --> 0:26:22.960
<v Speaker 1>There wasn't an apology. There wasn't There wasn't even anything

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<v Speaker 1>from the family as far as we'll follow up with

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<v Speaker 1>you once we get home. Nobody heard from him. She

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<v Speaker 1>drives off, and they're just sitting there, stunned, having to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out how to deal with the fallout of that,

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<v Speaker 1>how to explain to other campers why she's gone. Sitting

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<v Speaker 1>in her car talking to the camp assistant director, Bethany erupted,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember screaming at her for probably about ten seconds,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's not my nature at all. And I stopped

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<v Speaker 1>and I apologized and I said, I'm so sorry. All

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<v Speaker 1>of that was out of line. And she goes, Bethany,

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<v Speaker 1>I totally get it, because I did the same thing

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<v Speaker 1>to my boss. She said, none of us know how

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<v Speaker 1>to deal with this, like we don't know what to

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<v Speaker 1>believe anymore, what we're supposed to do. A couple of

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<v Speaker 1>days later, Sarah called in the middle of the night.

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<v Speaker 1>Bethany didn't answer. Her emotional well had dried up. For

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<v Speaker 1>the next few days and weeks, Bethany was in a daze,

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<v Speaker 1>and then things got creepy. After she was exposed. I

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<v Speaker 1>started getting random phone calls from an unknown number, and

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<v Speaker 1>I would answer it and it would be someone breathing

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<v Speaker 1>heavy on the on the other end of the line

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<v Speaker 1>or cackling. And that happened for several weeks um and

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<v Speaker 1>then I started getting screenshots of my current location sent

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<v Speaker 1>from like a like a Yahoo phone number. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that it was her. I was also,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a pregnant, about to be single mom. There

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<v Speaker 1>could have been multiple reasons, and I just don't know

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<v Speaker 1>the answer. Bethany was haunted by the betrayal of her rust.

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<v Speaker 1>One day, she called a friend from the camp, someone

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<v Speaker 1>who had been her mentor. I remember sitting in a

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<v Speaker 1>Chick fil A drive through and calling her and having

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<v Speaker 1>to pull over after I got my chicken nuggets, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was just kind of unloading on her, like it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it just had hit me because I had

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<v Speaker 1>googled Sarah and I had seen the photos of her

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<v Speaker 1>skiing in Colorado right around the same times when I

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<v Speaker 1>had been up there working. Every time I googled something

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<v Speaker 1>about her, I would find something new and a new blog,

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<v Speaker 1>a new email address. I mean, I was digging deep

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<v Speaker 1>at that point trying to find where does this end?

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<v Speaker 1>Bethany didn't even know the half of it. For more

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<v Speaker 1>than a decade, Sarah had built friendship after friendship on

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<v Speaker 1>a foundation of lies, and even after Camp Summit, she

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't done. I knew of her as a young mom

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<v Speaker 1>whose husband was away, who was battling stage four cancer.

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<v Speaker 1>She was my friend, I loved her, she was bregnant,

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<v Speaker 1>she was myrself. So to find out that she miss

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<v Speaker 1>scared that, you know, it mess with me. The story

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<v Speaker 1>really is unbelievable that someone could get away with all

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<v Speaker 1>the things that she did for all those years, for

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<v Speaker 1>so long. Who is Sarah? I don't even think she knows.

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah makes herself up as she goes along. Sarah is

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<v Speaker 1>an empty shell. Sarah. I don't know what happened to her.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe Sarah doesn't even know herself. But her victims know

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what Sarah did to them, and they were faced

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<v Speaker 1>with a problem. How do you find justice when no

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<v Speaker 1>law has been broken, but on the inside you are.

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<v Speaker 1>That's this season Unsympathy Pains. Sympathy Paines is a production

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<v Speaker 1>of Neon hum Media and I Heart Radio. I'm Your host.

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<v Speaker 1>Laura Beale I wrote and reported the episodes. Natalie Wrinn

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<v Speaker 1>is the lead producer. Our editor is Katherine St. Louis.

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<v Speaker 1>Jesse Pearlstein composed the theme song and music heard throughout

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<v Speaker 1>this series. Additional tracks are by Blue Dot Sessions and

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