1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:01,880 Speaker 1: The volume. 2 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 2: Do we want to stay just quickly in music? Not 3 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 2: that I mean this may be more of a Patreon thing. 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 2: I'm just still a rap NERD Beans put out his 5 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 2: list to top five Philly rappers excluding himself. 6 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 3: I was actually curious what your list would be Philly rap. 7 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is Bean's top five greatest Philly without him, 8 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 2: of course, number one, Black Thought, number two, Young Chris three, 9 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 2: Freeway four, Meek Mill five, Gilly excluding him. 10 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would want to hear where y'all put Beans 11 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 4: on there. I know he excluded him, but ya, Beans 12 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 4: is number two. 13 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 2: To me, my list would be Black Thought one, Beans too, 14 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 2: Freeway three, Chris four. Actually I got to stop wing, 15 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 2: but then I don't know where to put even right now, 16 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 2: Beans is number one. I'm not mad at that Beans 17 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 2: being number one. 18 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 5: Beans is one of my Black Thought is a fucking alien. 19 00:00:57,840 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 5: He could probably rap better than ninety nine percent of 20 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 5: nig on planet. I would say one, but I don't 21 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 5: listen to Black Thought as much as I listened to Being. 22 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 6: Okay, but we're talking about the greatest rap and me. 23 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 4: You have had this discussion too, where just because you 24 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 4: listen to something more doesn't make it greater, so greater rappers. 25 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 2: I'm still going my five. I'm sticking with. I'm just 26 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 2: I feel like Eve deserves to be in that five. 27 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 2: But I have Black Thought, Beans, Freeway, Chris, Meek, But 28 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 2: I want Eve to be somewhere out there because she deserves. 29 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 3: To be there. She does. But if it's five, I don't. 30 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 2: Like, does Chris rap better than Eve? Of course, but 31 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 2: I still have to put in like Gilly, what Eve 32 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 2: has done? 33 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 4: Gilly rap better than Eve? Yes, I'm not familiar with 34 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 4: Gilly's pen. 35 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 3: No, Gilly is a great rapper. Is a really really 36 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 3: really good rapper? 37 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 6: Just wonder. 38 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, Gilly rats better than Meek. Yeah, but I put 39 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 2: Meek there just because of what Meek has accomplished with songs, 40 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 2: and but Gilly rap better than me for sure. 41 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 3: I think Meek would probably say that, No, he does, 42 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 3: It's not, I mean it's not he does Gilly. 43 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 5: Listen a lot of y'all met Gilly through podcasting, like, yeah, 44 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, it was putting 45 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 5: out you know, he was dropping joys. 46 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 3: He was on every fucking DVD. 47 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 5: Like, Gilly definitely raps better than a lot of people 48 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 5: think and a lot of people really don't know Gilly's 49 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 5: you know, his his his bars like that, but trust 50 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 5: and believe he's definitely one of the illo for. 51 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 3: Philly, and it puts some respect just on Philly periods. 52 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 2: I mean, the way people talk about home taking Young 53 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 2: Christ's flow, people can say the same thing about Wayne. 54 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 2: When everything shifted, it was a Gilly flow. 55 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 3: It was definitely I mean Philly, he said. 56 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 5: Gilly said, you was wearing soft toed rebox when I 57 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:47,239 Speaker 5: met you. Y'all wasn't watching. 58 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 2: Flow is iconic. The way Wayne we talk about being 59 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:56,119 Speaker 2: so influential, like there's a Gilly flow. Yeah, Like I'm 60 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 2: not on the side that he your ghost rip everything 61 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 2: for Wayne or I don't want to get in the 62 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 2: weeds to that. But Philly, between Detroit and Philly, I 63 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 2: think are probably the two best cities of just straight rapping. 64 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 3: Like you just got rap. 65 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 4: New York's not in it just to rap, not song. 66 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 4: He not the most song why just bars, just bars? 67 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 3: Philly and Detroit there, man, that's top two to you. 68 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 5: You bugging the funk out man, You think Detroit rap 69 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 5: better than New York? 70 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 3: You crazy as a motherfucker. 71 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 2: All right, big pun versus Eminem. And you know, I'm 72 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 2: not even a big M fan like that? 73 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 3: Why you snatch Big Pun? 74 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 2: Because how you were doing new or doing New York? 75 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 6: How did you get that that was horrible to do? 76 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 3: How was that Big Pun in Eminem? What kind of 77 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 3: matchup is that? 78 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 2: We talk about people that just just rap, really, we 79 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 2: don't think Big Pun raps really really. 80 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 5: Really well, yes, but I'm saying is not one of 81 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 5: the New York yet. All right, So why you didn't 82 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 5: name Jayz? Why you didn't name Nas? 83 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 2: I think Pun and M have a similar flow than 84 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 2: nads in Eminem or Jay and Eminem. I think Pun 85 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 2: and Eminem are closer together as far as how they rap. 86 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 3: What do you know how Jay started rapping? 87 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, like the fucking double time pullshit, that's not what 88 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 2: em does dead in the middle, Like I can't even 89 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 2: do that shit, that's end to me. 90 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 5: That's one rap, that's one part of a rat you 91 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 5: talked about. That wasn't Pun styling throughout his. 92 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 2: Career for sure, But I mean the first album rapping, 93 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 2: rapping like he rapped with black thought. 94 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 5: Actually no, pun, No, don't don't get it twisted. But 95 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 5: matter of fact, it's somebody named it Black Thought. 96 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 2: And the first thing when he even got on Pun's 97 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 2: album was just in Philly. It was like, Yo, that's 98 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 2: the one in New York that just raps better than everybody. 99 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 2: That's why he wanted to get on that ship because 100 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 2: Pun was one of. 101 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 5: Those I'm not saying Pun wasn't, but it's just weird 102 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 5: for you to say Pun versus Eminem, like who's Hawaii? 103 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 2: Might the first person he defines jay Z and how 104 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 2: his rap style is. 105 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 5: No, I'm not saying that, but you might be the 106 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 5: first person to ever say big Pun or Eminem. You 107 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 5: might be the first person to ever say that. 108 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 2: I'm not doubling down just because I'm fucking hard headed. 109 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 2: I do think that's a very fair comparison. And if 110 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 2: you're doing Detroit versus New York of who raps similar, 111 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 2: Punt and m are very close in that. All right, 112 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 2: I'm taking Pun well, I and too, But that's I'm 113 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 2: we're talking about. So now the Golden Horston Detroit is out. 114 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 2: So now who you got? I leave New York away 115 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 2: from all these. Don't do the bias. 116 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 3: Don't do that. 117 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 5: Nah, you said Detroit and Philly are the best rap cities. 118 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 3: That's what you said. 119 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, because in Detroit you have m Royce, l Zi. 120 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 5: Yep, legends rap is for real shit, I'm just having 121 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 5: a brain fard. It's okay, Yeah, should I start naming 122 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 5: New York because I can, Like, if you want to 123 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 5: just start naming New York for you, I can you 124 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 5: know who. 125 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 6: Would you name in New York taking away song making 126 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 6: ability just rap? 127 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 2: Just because why I'm making that comparison is yes, of 128 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 2: course New York freestyle like that, but New York was 129 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 2: so focused on making songs from the nineties in two thousands. 130 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 2: In Philly and Detroit, who's just rapping no hours on end. 131 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 5: Just Philly is one of my favorite rap cities. You'll 132 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 5: never hear me say anything about the Spinners. I'm talking 133 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 5: about the niggas that really cor rapt from Philly, Like 134 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 5: it's incredible balls that we can we can quote. But 135 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 5: when you say best rap cities and you go Detroit 136 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 5: and Philly and it's like. 137 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 2: What I think, m Royce and Lzi is the craziest 138 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 2: three when it comes to just rapping, like period. 139 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 3: J nods and Big. 140 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 5: Show talking about about who are you talking about? Nobody 141 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 5: raps better? Than Jaynas and Big nobody on planet. 142 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna I know where my bias stands on everything, 143 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 2: But so what are we talking about. 144 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,359 Speaker 4: We're going to give you on y'all ass fighting for 145 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 4: Eminem to be better than all three of them. 146 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 6: Y'all do not know. 147 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 5: Better than who jns are big? Yeah, people, you niggas 148 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 5: better go back and listen to some music. Jay z 149 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 5: Nas and Biggie are the best. 150 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 2: I always take j over M in any category. But 151 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 2: I can total see why someone be like not if 152 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 2: you print out a piece of paper, Yes, he's rapping 153 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 2: better than everybody. 154 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 3: That's what I'm talking about. 155 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 4: Somebody from LA is screaming across the coast right now about. 156 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 5: By LA rappers respect to all the all the major cities. 157 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 5: You know, we we we can name a bunch of cities. 158 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 5: But I'm just saying Rory said. 159 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 2: Even the last ten years and has been out rapping everybody. 160 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 3: L has been out rapping everybody. 161 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 2: He's had this conversation easy, but if you're going back 162 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:30,119 Speaker 2: to the night he's like, yeah, it's Snoop incredible, of course, 163 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 2: but it doesn't add up to all the rappers that 164 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 2: were in New York at that time. 165 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 5: You told about rapping every time. Yeah, you say Snoop name. 166 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 5: I just think about that Snoop and DMX versus. I 167 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 5: hate that versus so much. I hate that they did that, 168 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 5: that match up. You didn't hate that match up, of course, 169 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 5: like I hate it. I really can't believe they did that. 170 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 3: Like DMX said, he was molested and y'all kept dancing. 171 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 3: But to you, he's always got to make your with that. 172 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 3: That was my takeaway from that. Yeah, I just I 173 00:07:59,040 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 3: hated that. 174 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 5: I would think that Snoop and DMX was supposed to 175 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 5: be in the verses against each other like that was. 176 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 3: I didn't like that matchup, but recipiece of the Act. 177 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 6: To be fair, sorry, who would you have rather matched 178 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 6: them up with? 179 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 4: Because what I saw that was I saw that as 180 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 4: more of a celebration in a real versus, because. 181 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 6: Who would you put them against? 182 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 3: Snoop? 183 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 6: Snoop might be easier. Who would you put dm Mexicans? 184 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 5: Oh hmm, I don't know. I would have put xagons. 185 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 5: I'd have to think about that. Because we were recording, 186 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 5: I can't really think of it. But I just didn't 187 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 5: remember when they announced that. I was just like Snoop 188 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 5: versus DMX, it just that was just it just never 189 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 5: felt if I mean, were looking at it, we. 190 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 3: Snoop Dogg and then DMX was the dog man. 191 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 5: I think they tried to lean, they went that way 192 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 5: with him, but if you told my catalog and and 193 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 5: you know, skills set, and it just it wasn't a 194 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 5: good matchup. 195 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 3: No for sure. 196 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 4: But that's why I said I think some of I 197 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 4: think some of the verses were more celebrations than. 198 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 3: I mean, that's what it turned out to be, you 199 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. 200 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 5: But I just didn't like I remember when they announced that, 201 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 5: I was kind of like, I don't really like that, 202 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 5: but I was happy that they gave DMX that platform 203 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 5: because a lot of people needed a history lesson on DMX. 204 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 3: So that was dope. 205 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 2: I think that kind of ties into the t pay 206 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 2: rant on a club shah. 207 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 3: Let me not call it a rant. I hate that word. 208 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 2: He he was talking about Khaled during his club shah 209 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 2: shit and saying more or less, I'm paraphrasing, Cali was 210 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 2: my best friend when he needed me for the first 211 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 2: three fucking albums, and then then after that, when I 212 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 2: got a little colder, I don't hear from cald. 213 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 3: I. 214 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 2: Okay, you know I Teddy bender ass is one of 215 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 2: my favorite of all time. I'm not here to even 216 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 2: defend this some music industry, Why would you expect Kalen 217 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 2: to be your friend? I get what you're saying. Maybe 218 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:58,839 Speaker 2: it's because I'm so Jayla at this point and we've 219 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 2: had a similar conversation with I don't have the expectations 220 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 2: of people anymore, will I look at it? Kind of 221 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 2: funny if we was sitting in the studio for ten 222 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 2: years straight and we brothers this and that and having fun, 223 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, you don't call. Yeah, 224 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 2: I think that's corny and weird. So that's what he's like, 225 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 2: that's what he's saying. Expect it, But that's what he's saying. 226 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 5: Though, Like if we did all of that, we have 227 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 5: all of this history together, we probably had some you know, 228 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 5: heart to heart conversations, spent a lot of time. You know, 229 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 5: families probably know each other to an extent, like and 230 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 5: then all of a sudden, like I can't get a 231 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 5: All we did was win. Yeah, I can't get a 232 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 5: return phone call. I can't if I reached out for something. 233 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 5: Maybe you know I wanted you on a record and 234 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,599 Speaker 5: I couldn't get that from you. I could understand t 235 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 5: pain stance of, you know, fuck DJ Khaled, But the 236 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 5: thing I don't understand is, and I've said it and 237 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 5: people kill me for saying it, but DJ Khaled is 238 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 5: obviously very self serving. Yeah, And I don't understand how 239 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 5: people don't understand or see that by now, like he's 240 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 5: very self serving. Sure why he's been the businessman that 241 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 5: he's been in the music business, right, So I mean, 242 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,839 Speaker 5: but again, T Pain probably felt like they were a 243 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 5: little close or a little. 244 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 3: Better than that. 245 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 5: And you know, I mean, it is what it is, 246 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 5: if that's what his stance, If his stance is, he's 247 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 5: not fucking with Caled, and I'm sure he has because 248 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 5: T Pain is not somebody that I can remember ever 249 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 5: having a real issue with anybody other than auto to him. 250 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 2: I don't want to talk about Khaled's character per se, 251 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 2: because I don't really know Khaled as a human being. 252 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 2: But when I was at deaf Jam, he was an executive. 253 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 2: While I was at deaf Jam, he was an executive 254 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:38,559 Speaker 2: there and an executive. 255 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 3: At Sony, which was unheard of. 256 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 2: He's also a DJ, executive and DJs are only working 257 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 2: with what's hot at the moment. There's no tie to anything. 258 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 2: Kaled actually doesn't. I don't think gets the credit. He 259 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 2: deserves to be the executive that he is, but he 260 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 2: has the mind of a DJ and executive. He's only 261 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,199 Speaker 2: going to fuck with what's high and pitch it as 262 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 2: if they're brother. You don't think le Or Cohen's self serving? Yeah, 263 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 2: you don't think Lucian Range is self serving? 264 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 4: Yeah? 265 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 2: You don't think Kevin Laos is self not self serving? 266 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 2: Like as humans in their personal lives, like I'm sure 267 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 2: with their families, they're amazing people. 268 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, but business we're talking about. 269 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, you have to be to be successful. 270 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 2: Listen, those those companies are net thirty, net sixty, net ninety, 271 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 2: not just with paying people, but also with the relationship 272 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 2: with that person one hundred two thousand. You're only as 273 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 2: funky as your last cut. I don't owe you shit, 274 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 2: but you can't because you know, because because because music 275 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 2: is so emotional and you're pouring your life into it, 276 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 2: some some people rightfully so view it as that it's 277 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 2: not it's a transaction knowledge which I don't care about 278 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 2: it that I'm not one of those people. 279 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 5: It's not for some people. It's not because you have 280 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 5: a lot of art. It's not one of those people. 281 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 5: And I know that, but I'm just saying you have 282 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:53,599 Speaker 5: a lot of You have a lot of artists and 283 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 5: a lot of producers that work together, that are very close, 284 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 5: that are like family. And I feel like, you know, 285 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 5: maybeald Well, maybe T Paint felt like that was him 286 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 5: in Kalid, Like like we can go back and look 287 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 5: at the history. T Pain was on every big Kalid 288 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 5: record when it was We the Best and all of that, 289 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 5: like it was it. 290 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 3: Was T Pain everywhere. I mean, it was ace Hood everywhere. 291 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 5: And now both of these gentlemen have you know, certain 292 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 5: feelings towards DJ Khalet, But I mean it's looking like 293 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 5: they're they're both in the same boat, and they're right 294 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 5: like Khalid used them when they was hot, you know, 295 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 5: it was making a lot of records, making big songs together. 296 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 3: Then once Bieber sent his vocals back, it was like 297 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 3: fuck ace Hood, fuck T Pay. 298 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 5: Once you get in Future vocals and Beyonce vocals and 299 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 5: Rihanna vocals, it's like, I don't need T Pain no more. 300 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 5: When I got Future, I don't need you know, ace 301 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 5: hood when I got Hove sending you know, versus back 302 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 5: and I got nas in the studio and I got 303 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 5: you know, so, I mean T Pain probably felt like, 304 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 5: all right, well I asked for a record, which is 305 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 5: probably what he did, and Kali didn't get back to him, 306 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 5: didn't and so now you're like, okay, it's like that. 307 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 3: I well, then this is how I feel. 308 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 5: Fuck you, And T Pain is not wrong for that 309 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 5: because again, this is the music industry, and we know 310 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 5: it's business. But through business and through you know, spending 311 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 5: so much time working with certain people, you build a relationship, 312 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 5: you build a chemistry, you build a friendship, you build 313 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 5: even family at some pople We've seen a lot of 314 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 5: people in the industry become family through working with each other, 315 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 5: and you know, sometimes it goes that way. Sometimes it's 316 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 5: you find out this person was just using and I 317 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 5: think that's what tea pain is at. 318 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, where do you I mean, where do you fall 319 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 2: on the side of if you're not being used, you're useless? 320 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 5: I mean, yes, not about pain, but no, no, no, no, 321 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 5: I give what you're saying, because. 322 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 2: My problem with this whole thing is Khalid is creative 323 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 2: enough and T Pain is a goat. You could Kalient 324 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 2: and T Pain can make a hit record right now. 325 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 5: But but you know it's I mean, listen, man, I'm 326 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 5: not the biggest cal Like I don't like. 327 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 3: Many of the Kalid projects. I don't go back to 328 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 3: a lot of those, the early ones. I definitely like, 329 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 3: well the early one. Yeah, that's who was on the 330 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 3: early ones. I think. 331 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 2: So, what's the one with his son on the cover? 332 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 2: That is his son EPs? I love that one. Yeah, 333 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 2: I don't want to mispronounce his son's name, but yeah, 334 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 2: I love that. That was probably my last favorite Kala. 335 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, but I just don't you know, I get it, man, 336 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 5: And it's a tough pill to swallow when you realize 337 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 5: that people's only using you because you was hot at 338 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 5: the moment. 339 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 3: But it's a real thing. 340 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 2: And I mean, I hate to go back to the 341 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 2: first point of executive and DJ, like he's a DJ. 342 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 2: Even if you go to Flex, like, yeah, there's probably 343 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 2: artists that had two great records in ninety eight that 344 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 2: Flex played all the time. Does Flex owe them the 345 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five record they want to put out? 346 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 3: Like he's a DJ? He just moves on to the 347 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 3: next thing. 348 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 4: But that's completely that's completely different. 349 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 2: I'm sure, and I hate to just put Flex in this, 350 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 2: even though I'm critical Flex, I don't want to put 351 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 2: something on his character. I'm sure Flex is called Mike 352 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 2: Geronimo brother before, and I love my drop, Like I'm 353 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 2: just using an example of somebody that had a great 354 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 2: record in the nineties. I'm sure Mike has went to 355 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 2: Flex after like yo, I got this other record and 356 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 2: Flex was moving on to DMX at that time, Like, yeah. 357 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 3: I'm just playing other show, so you could do that. 358 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 5: Then I could say, do you think that if Pat 359 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 5: Poos ever went to Rest in Peace case Slave with 360 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 5: a record, Slave wouldn't have played. 361 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 3: It wouldn't have happened. Fair wouldn't have happened. 362 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 2: I'm trying to think, like with Clue now, because even Clue, 363 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 2: when I mean Rand is probably one of the best 364 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 2: rappers of twenty twenty five, twenty four, twenty three, But 365 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 2: I'm sure when Rand was trying to find a record, Yeah, 366 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 2: Clue played a lot. 367 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 3: Of Rand on the radio. Now I think about. 368 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 2: It, so we know DJ's he had investment, and I 369 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 2: don't know Clue in Rand's actual personal relationship. I'm only 370 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 2: outside looking in about the entire thing. Clue had an 371 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 2: invested stock into eighteen with pitch in Ransom, so he 372 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 2: had a incentive outside of probably loving their music. He 373 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 2: wouldn't sign them if he didn't, but he had an 374 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 2: incentive to do so. I mean, does Kalent have an 375 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 2: incentive outside of ace hood is a different conversation, But 376 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 2: does kalit have an incentive outside of what's popular? 377 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 5: I mean, but when it seems like when it seems 378 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 5: like you know, you have new famous friends and then 379 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 5: you forget about your olcaust T Pain is still famous. 380 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 5: And if you forget about this ever exist, you forget 381 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 5: about your old famous friends. That's corny to me. I 382 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 5: agree with you. I think get that port. That's all 383 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 5: I'm saying. 384 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 2: I'm just viewing it down to what T. Paint said. 385 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 2: Brother means nothing to the people in the music industry. 386 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 2: If your music industry friends that I like, I don't 387 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 2: know things in that way. You can't say that because 388 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:55,439 Speaker 2: I don't operate that way. But I don't expect other 389 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 2: people that. 390 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 3: I know and I don't either. 391 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 5: But we can't say brother means nothing to pop in 392 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 5: the music industry because to some people in the music industry. 393 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 5: Brother does mean something, and I have plenty of examples 394 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 5: of brothers in the music industry for sure. So that's why, 395 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 5: you know, just just say brother, don't mean nothing to cal. 396 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 3: Palestine. 397 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 5: Its Palestine, Like it's okay, just say that, but don't 398 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 5: don't make it, you know, a music industry thing, because 399 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 5: we do know the music industry is very cutthroat and 400 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:27,679 Speaker 5: it's very fucked up. But we also do know we 401 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 5: have a lot of great relationships with great friends and 402 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 5: great family in the music industry as well. 403 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 2: All right, if Kali got super cold after the second album, 404 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 2: do you think T Pain would be like, Yo, let's 405 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 2: let's do a record in twenty twenty five. And Pain 406 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 2: never got cold? To me, I'm just using an example. 407 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 2: Do we think T Pain would do the same thing? 408 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 3: No, I don't think so. 409 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 2: Do you think he'd be like, all right, let's Kalid 410 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 2: because we had those first two projects, let's in twenty 411 00:18:57,880 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 2: twenty five. 412 00:18:58,400 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 3: I got you. 413 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, we've seen We've seen Ortis do it all the time, 414 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 5: Artists that had hot records in the nineties, early two thousands, 415 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 5: and then they come back in twenty twenty five and 416 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 5: be like shit, Nads and Premier about to put out 417 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 5: their first album. 418 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 2: But we're not I mean weird. 419 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 5: No, I'm just saying, but they gave us something in 420 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 5: the nineties and been teasing an album for. 421 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 3: Years, fifteen years, I want to say. 422 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 5: And now was finally it one of them picked up 423 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 5: that one of them picked up the phone that was like, Yo, 424 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. And Nads could have been 425 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,479 Speaker 5: like Yo, no, Premium, you ain't that hot right now. 426 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:33,400 Speaker 5: To me, I'm just saying, I'm just saying he could. 427 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 5: I'm just saying he could have. He could have, especially 428 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 5: coming up all the hit boys shit, getting his first Grammy. 429 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 2: I just don't put Caleent in Premiere in the same. 430 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 5: No, I'm talking about the relationship. Yeah, I'm talking about 431 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 5: people still, you know, holding people to a certain regard, 432 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 5: even no matter if they hot, cold, whatever it is. 433 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 5: If we made good chemistry together, make good songs, make 434 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 5: good music together, I don't care if you're not hot 435 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 5: right now, like we made we got we made some 436 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 5: shit together, and we probably still got some shit in 437 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 5: a hard drop that we need to go revisit. 438 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 2: But I mean that speaks to Pream's character too, because 439 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 2: preem will. I mean that will work with anyone. That's 440 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 2: why I think he's a go. Outside of all the 441 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 2: amazing shit he did, but his Him and Na's relationship 442 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 2: started when Nas was nobody at nineteen and gave him 443 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 2: New York State a month. Pream was already on Rupp 444 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 2: home at Benout like Nas was nobody. He was like, yah, 445 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 2: I got you. Pream is just a different type of 446 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 2: human being in that regard. If he fucks with you, 447 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,919 Speaker 2: doesn't matter how popular you are, he'll. 448 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 3: Say fuck and say brother means nothing to calvity. 449 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 2: Cream is an amazing human being, So say brother, I know, 450 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 2: I know Pream, Well, say he's the other way. Don't 451 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 2: say the peoples in the set. That's all I'm saying, Paul, 452 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 2: this is disgusting. I think it's time to upgrade this. 453 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 2: This this is insane. You should upgrade to the iPhone 454 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 2: seventeen Pro because, believe it or not, it's designed to 455 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 2: be the most powerful iPhone ever. Of course it'd be 456 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 2: more powerful than the sixteen. But I'm sure you're thinking 457 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,360 Speaker 2: about traffic on the way transfering your data. That can 458 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 2: be a mess. Sometimes you just want to keep this 459 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 2: this chipped up phone that you have, But I have 460 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 2: good news. 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I rushed back to the house to 470 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 2: watch it because I thought it was gonna get taken 471 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 2: down because his lawyers did send some c and ds, 472 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 2: which once you get to episode two you start to 473 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 2: see why. 474 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 3: Listen. 475 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,120 Speaker 5: I finished the I finished the dock here last night 476 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 5: here before I went home, I was like, let me 477 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 5: watch it because I did feel like it was gonna 478 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 5: be taken down soon since cease and desist was sent out. 479 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 5: And I would have been mad because I watched the 480 00:21:54,840 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 5: first two episodes and I was like, oh shit, yeah, 481 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 5: so let me watch next to and listen if everything 482 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 5: in that doc is real and true. I think we all, 483 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 5: like we all owe a lot of people like damn 484 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 5: because we watched it happen. Yes, like years of watching 485 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:23,479 Speaker 5: shit like it was right in front of us, things happened. 486 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 5: And you know, one of the things that I did 487 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 5: take away from the dock because you know, you go 488 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 5: back and they was you know, telling things that happened, 489 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 5: and then from people that really were close to Puff 490 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,120 Speaker 5: and grew up with them and was there from day one, 491 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 5: and just hearing the way they spoke about them, and 492 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 5: then watching things you know that you know, happened publicly 493 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 5: and things it was definitely like damn, like, how the 494 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 5: fuck did this continue to just happen right in front 495 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 5: of us and nobody you know, and y'all know all 496 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 5: the time, I always say, people don't care, that we 497 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 5: pretend like we care, and when things happen like oh 498 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 5: my god, prayers, condolences, and then we hit scroll and 499 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 5: then there's no more prayers and condolences and things like that. 500 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 5: But the documentary did shed a lot of light on 501 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 5: a lot of things that I didn't know about, gave 502 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 5: the testimony of people that were, you know, spent a 503 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 5: lot of years around Diddy, working with him, whether it 504 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 5: was personal or just business. And I can see why 505 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 5: his lawyers did want to see some desist because it 506 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 5: does it can paint a different picture for people who 507 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 5: supported Diddy over the years. It definitely paints him in 508 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 5: an entirely different light, an entirely different perspective of the 509 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 5: man that many of us have supported over the years. 510 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 5: But overall, I thought it was a very informative doc. 511 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 5: I thought it was you know, it's fucked up what happened, 512 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 5: But it was a good documentary though. 513 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why you know, we gave fifty a little 514 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 2: bit of shit last episode, just because we thought, like, 515 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 2: all right, is this him just being petty because of 516 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 2: their history and his child's mother, and like, are we 517 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,679 Speaker 2: going to get one of those clip together Hulu docs? 518 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 2: That is just like this was a money grabbing unnecessary 519 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 2: as far as it doc goes, it was very informative 520 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:07,120 Speaker 2: and very well put together. Like episode one was, I thought, 521 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 2: I like really knew the Diddy story for the most part. 522 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 2: It was a very informative, ditty doc like just in 523 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 2: general about his life and his family life. But once 524 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 2: you get to episode two, things do start to fall 525 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 2: off the rails. Was there any new information on here 526 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 2: for you? Because I mean, I know we're a little 527 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 2: closer to everything than the average consumer when it comes 528 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 2: to this type of stuff. 529 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 3: As far as the music industry, I. 530 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 2: Know a lot of people learned a lot of things 531 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 2: for the first time in this dock, which I think 532 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 2: is great, But was there anything in here? 533 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 3: You were like, yo, what the fuck? 534 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,360 Speaker 5: Well when they they said, uh that the Wallaser State 535 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 5: paid for the funeral, but then it came out to 536 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 5: prove that that wasn't true. 537 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, wayless. 538 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,959 Speaker 5: The state did not pay for Biggie's a funeral. And 539 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 5: that's something that I was like, wait, hold up, like again, 540 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 5: if any of that is true? Yeah, and they're saying 541 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,919 Speaker 5: that that's not true, But that was definitely one of 542 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,199 Speaker 5: the things that I was completely thrown off by, Like 543 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 5: I was like, I never heard that, never knew that, 544 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 5: and if that is true, that's fucking crazy. 545 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 546 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 2: In the dock, it explained it as if bad Boy 547 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 2: paid for the funeral, but it came out of Biggie's 548 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 2: recording budget, so it was a line item in a 549 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 2: P and L. But this morning, lour Leosa had went 550 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,360 Speaker 2: on the Breakfast Club and said she spoke with Biggie's 551 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 2: estate slash former manager, and he said he has been 552 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 2: on the royalty statements since the very day that Big 553 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 2: passed away, and that never happened. Bad Boy paid for 554 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 2: everything that wasn't something that came out of the biggest budget. 555 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 4: Okay, so I have a question, this is Devil's advocate, 556 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 4: because I know everybody's bleeding hearts, but don't most humans 557 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 4: pay for their own funerals? So when people were like, 558 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 4: he didn't pay for his funeral, like, don't most people 559 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 4: pay for their own funerals, that doesn't happen. 560 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,880 Speaker 5: Well if you have life insurance and things like that, 561 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 5: like a policy. Yeah, But the thing was, the way 562 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 5: they said it in the dock made it seem like 563 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 5: it came directly out of like money that was his. 564 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:09,199 Speaker 5: So essentially, look, Biggie made bad Boy money, right, So 565 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 5: even if bad Boy paid for it, in a way, 566 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,199 Speaker 5: the Biggie paid for the funeral, right, Yeah, But the 567 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 5: way they broke it down, the way they explained it 568 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 5: in the doc, it made it seem like, you know, 569 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 5: because they were saying Puffer saying this is gonna be 570 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 5: the biggest funeral ever said or third, but Biggie's gonna 571 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 5: pay for it. So when you hear it that way, 572 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 5: you like and then they're saying like, yeah, he's the 573 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 5: one that came out of the wireless estate or whatever. 574 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 5: It was like, that's a little crazy if that's if 575 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 5: they did it that way, But in a way, yes, 576 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 5: you're right, you do kind. 577 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 3: Of you do pay for your own funeral. 578 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 5: It does come out of funds that you have, whether 579 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 5: it's life insurance or you know, again being one of 580 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 5: the biggest artists in the world at that time, for 581 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 5: the label, if the label pays for it, you can 582 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 5: kind of say that you worked for it. 583 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 3: You you gross that money for the label. So yeah, 584 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 3: I get it. 585 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,679 Speaker 5: But just hearing it that way was definitely like, what 586 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 5: do you mean, Biggie pay for his own funeral. 587 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's more of a moral thing because like how 588 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 2: they even painted it in the dock with that segment, 589 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 2: it was like, all right, Big thought he was going 590 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 2: to London. Puff said, now we're going to go to 591 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 2: la to promote the album, even though we know it's 592 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,199 Speaker 2: probably not safe. We've been getting death threats. Probably not 593 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 2: the best time to go over there. But they were 594 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 2: painting Puff's arrogance where he felt like he was so 595 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 2: bulletproof it didn't matter of what the truth was, so 596 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 2: he dragged Biggie there to promote an album that was 597 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 2: signed to bad Boy. 598 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 3: Unfortunately that happens to big. 599 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 2: Then he to most points says, it's about to be 600 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 2: the biggest funeral, but like, wait, does miss Wallace want 601 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 2: it to be the biggest. 602 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 3: Funeral if you're paying for it? All? Right? 603 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,439 Speaker 2: Like cool, you can bad Boy up this entire thing 604 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 2: if you're paying for it. Then right after that, he 605 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 2: was supposed to get the cover of Rolling Stone, like 606 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 2: a few weeks after the funeral, and that was which 607 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 2: I've heard that before that. I'm pretty sure that's factual. 608 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 2: That was cruz crazy Allegedly, you don't pay for the funeral. 609 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 2: Now you switch the cover that was supposed to you know, 610 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 2: honor your your best friend to you because you have 611 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 2: to do the no out shit. You're leading single, which 612 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 2: makes you god knows how much money is I'll be 613 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,120 Speaker 2: Missing You, which you promote immediately, which I get it's 614 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:13,120 Speaker 2: a tribute song. But we know Puff's mind. Of course 615 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 2: he was morning, but he's gonna take advantage of that moment. 616 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,360 Speaker 2: And yeah, it looked all nasty when you add. 617 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:19,199 Speaker 3: All those things together. 618 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 2: If bigs family indeed had to pay for the entire thing, 619 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 2: but it turned out that that was not the. 620 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 3: Case and Puff did pay for it. But still nasty. 621 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:31,120 Speaker 4: Well if so, if that can be questioned, then don't 622 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 4: we now question the integrity of the entire doc. 623 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 2: Well that's why lawyers love this type of shit and 624 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 2: why I know they're going to amplify that. Biggie's of 625 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 2: State said this because you know, it's similar to what 626 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 2: we even saw with Diddy's sexual assault cases, where we 627 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 2: saw the CASTI one and we saw the footage, but 628 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 2: then a bunch of people came out the woodworks where 629 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 2: stuff looked like, all right, this is true over here, 630 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 2: but this seems like some bullshit money grab kicking while 631 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 2: he's down. Maybe he'll settle type of thing. And that's 632 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 2: what lawyers used to be, like, see, this case is bullshit, 633 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 2: so everything must be bullshit, and that's never really what 634 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 2: it is. Yeah, Like sometimes misunderstandings happened in there. I 635 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 2: don't know if there was much in the doc that 636 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 2: couldn't be proven to be true outside of that one. 637 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 2: I mean, I think the Tupac thing, they didn't say 638 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 2: it in a fact, they alluded to it, but which 639 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 2: I mean we can discuss. Do I think just speculation? 640 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 2: No one knows this to be a fact. Do I 641 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 2: think that Puff probably said to some gang members in 642 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 2: passing or in a room, put some money on their heads. 643 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I do think that happened. 644 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 2: But do I think the people that allegedly killed Tupac 645 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 2: went to Vegas with the thought, we're going there to 646 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 2: kill Tupac so we can get the bounty money that. 647 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 3: Puff put up. 648 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 7: No. 649 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 2: I think Pop punched the wrong crip that had a 650 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 2: beef with the people he was rolling with, and crips 651 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 2: do what crips do. That was and then they whether 652 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 2: there was a bounty or not. I think those crips 653 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 2: do what they did regardless. Now, once it's done, I 654 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 2: might as well go collect some money for it too. 655 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that was the kind of what I took 656 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 5: from it. It's just something that just happened to happen 657 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 5: that night after a conversation however many days or weeks ago, 658 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 5: so it kind of lined up that way. But you know, overall, 659 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 5: the documentary to me, just it gives a different perspective 660 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 5: on somebody that we've only known publicly, not much personal 661 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 5: knowledge of the type of person that he is. But 662 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 5: just again to hear those people talking. I forgot the 663 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 5: gentleman's name that was actually with bad Boy from day one, 664 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 5: who he took the twenty five percent stocking bad Boy from. Yeah, 665 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 5: just hearing him talk and then you know, it's like 666 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 5: guys like that, you know, here's somebody that we've never 667 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 5: heard from. I've never seen him sit down and talk 668 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 5: about that. I just don't think that he would sit 669 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 5: there and fabricate something at this point, like what does 670 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 5: he have to gain from that? Yeah, you know what, 671 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 5: I mean, his story, his truth, whatever happened, and you 672 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 5: know why he signed over to twenty five percent that 673 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 5: he owned a bad Boy. I mean, I just think 674 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 5: that he I don't think that he has to lie 675 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 5: about those type of things and circumstances that happened around 676 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 5: that whole thing. But overall, I mean, it was very informative. 677 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 5: It shed some light on a lot of things. Hearing 678 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 5: from testimony from certain people. Even some of the jurors 679 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 5: spoke about why they didn't find him guilty on you know, 680 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 5: the sexual assault charges and things like that, and the 681 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:41,959 Speaker 5: juris said it was like, yo, it's hard to you know, 682 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 5: find him guilty of that. Yes, we see the tape 683 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 5: and we see the video of him assaulting a woman, 684 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 5: but then we also have footage of them hours laid at. 685 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 3: A galla together. 686 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 5: And I know how you know, abuse is whether it's physical, 687 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 5: whether it's verbal, you know, whether it's mental. You know, 688 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 5: people are victims and you know, but it's hard, hard 689 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 5: to tell a jury to find somebody guilty of this 690 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 5: when you have more footage, you know, of them on 691 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 5: vacations together, after that, and this, that, and third, it's like, well, yes, 692 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 5: we do think that this was toxic, this was wrong. 693 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 5: Things happen, But at the same time, do we find 694 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 5: him guilty of these things? Because it does take you know, 695 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 5: it takes too. 696 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 2: And to give the jurs some grace there too, I 697 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 2: blame more of the prosecution, like, yeah, we all saw 698 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 2: the CASI tapes, Like that's not what he was charged for. 699 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 2: Do I think Diddy is a guilty human being? Of 700 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 2: course I do. Yeah, But you guys put up a 701 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 2: bunch of shit that you couldn't even really prove happened, 702 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 2: and all the stuff that we did know to be true, 703 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 2: he's not charged for. So if I'm a jury, ib 704 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 2: was sitting there like, yeah, I think guy's a piece 705 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 2: of shit. But this is the system America has made 706 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 2: where you have to prove the charges that you have 707 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 2: right here, and you're not doing that. So what am 708 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 2: I supposed to do? Yeah, say he's guilty for something 709 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 2: that's not in the court right now. 710 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 3: I can't do that. One. 711 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 5: The one thing that stood out to me in the 712 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 5: dock was how around every tragic thing that happened in 713 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 5: his life, he was the one that came out of it, 714 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 5: you know, whether it's like his career elevated out of 715 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 5: each of these tragedies. And that's kind of like that 716 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 5: raises an nob bra, like how come you the only 717 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 5: one that benefited from these tragedies? Like life got you 718 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 5: know from I guess from what we see and what 719 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 5: we know, seems like life got better for you after 720 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 5: these tragedies. Success happens, you know, and it's like, why 721 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 5: is that? 722 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 3: To me? 723 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 5: That's what the one thing I took from the dock, 724 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 5: Like even going back to the city college, you know 725 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 5: stampede that happened. You know, at that time, Puff was 726 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 5: just a party parole in the city, young kid throwing parties, 727 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 5: you know, bringing people together trying to have a good time. 728 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 5: But even out of that there was an elevation. You 729 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 5: go to get the uptown after that, you know what 730 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 5: I'm saying, and then you and Andre Herrell for all 731 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 5: out and then you take what you learn from Andre 732 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 5: Horral where you know, like I'll be showing these peoples 733 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 5: talking like none of these guys got really paid from uptown, 734 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 5: like they got that that they advanced. But after that, 735 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 5: a lot of these artists struggled. Go to bad boys, 736 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 5: start your thing. A lot of those artists can say 737 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 5: the same thing. Craig mac has, He's Grammy nominated, he 738 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 5: has a number one song and barely pays bills. And 739 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 5: then he asks you for money and his wife says, 740 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 5: you pull out one hundred dollars bill and give it 741 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 5: to him. 742 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 3: It's like for people to have these stories, it's like. 743 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 5: Something somebody ain't Everybody can't be lying, like that's just 744 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 5: my thing. When everybody get to talking, it's like everybody 745 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 5: can't be lying. 746 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 3: Now is this some things that you know? Is it 747 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 3: one hundred percent true? 748 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 5: And maybe that's their perspective on how things happen. We 749 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 5: understand how things get a little blurry. Did but the 750 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 5: bottom line is when you look at, you know, the 751 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 5: things that happen as far as the tragedies, and then 752 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 5: look and saw how Puff was able to elevate from 753 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 5: that and and was the one that kind of became, 754 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 5: you know, to star and things like that, it does 755 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 5: raise an eyebro like that's something that you kind of 756 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 5: got to look at with a side eye, like something 757 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 5: ain't right here. 758 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it. 759 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 2: Puff came across as probably the greatest self preservation human 760 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 2: being I've ever seen. To your point, every time something 761 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 2: bad happened to everyone, including himself in that circle, he 762 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 2: would find a way for everyone else to be the 763 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,800 Speaker 2: fall people and for him to continue on no matter 764 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,879 Speaker 2: what scheme or way he had to go about it. 765 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 2: He will always gonna self preserve no matter what, even 766 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 2: with the bad Boy family. Mm hm, well, I'm not 767 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 2: going down right. I gotta keep the family movement. Do 768 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,479 Speaker 2: you think that started around the City College thing? Because 769 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 2: I almost watched it like kind of in reverse in 770 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 2: my head towards the end thinking of that that moment, Yes, 771 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 2: Puff was just a young party promoter. Should the cops 772 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,839 Speaker 2: probably had a better structure there? Should Puff have maybe 773 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 2: had better security. Of course, there's a bunch of what 774 00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 2: is there not saying he's completely innocent, but he's throwing 775 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 2: a charity bass. 776 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 3: He doesn't know about that shit yet. It's unfortunate what. 777 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 2: Happened because he got out of that scott free, and 778 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 2: then even said himself at that point, I had never 779 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 2: been that famous in my life. I immediately became famous 780 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 2: because of a tragedy. Do you think that started the 781 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 2: mindset he had of being so metaphorically bulletproof in any situation. 782 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,280 Speaker 2: I can get away with anything, I can have someone 783 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,240 Speaker 2: Shug's man in front of a fucking club in Atlanta 784 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 2: was gonna happen to me. I can shoot up a 785 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 2: club with j Lo. Nothing's gonna happen to me Like that, 786 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 2: I think is where he started to build that mentality, 787 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,879 Speaker 2: along with drugs, to just start seeing the world as 788 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 2: objects and opportunities. Like kim Porter, that was opportunity. He had. 789 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 2: Clearly had a very fragile and crazy ego. So because 790 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 2: that was Albi Shore's girl, I'm gonna get her me, 791 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,280 Speaker 2: he says his other baby mother. Oh that's somebody else's 792 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,839 Speaker 2: fifties baby. Like he has that mentality where this isn't 793 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 2: because I want that woman, because I want that object opportunity. 794 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,839 Speaker 3: And ego boost for the people around me. Yeah. 795 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 2: That I think just built more and more throughout the 796 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,879 Speaker 2: years because he he never really took an l Yeah, 797 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 2: I like, I don't get it, but I could see 798 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 2: how that trajectory mixed with pink cocaine could get you 799 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,319 Speaker 2: to the place that he treats the world the way 800 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 2: he does. Of course I can beat up Cassie. Why 801 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 2: why can't I do that? Look at everything I've done 802 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 2: and gotten away with. It's almost like he has like 803 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 2: the mentality of like that rich kid that had a 804 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,400 Speaker 2: billionaire father that knew they could do anything and dad 805 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 2: will get him out of. 806 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 3: It, but Puff would get himself out of it. 807 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 6: Yeah. 808 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,840 Speaker 2: I think he had that same mentality. As the years 809 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:41,720 Speaker 2: went on, well. 810 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 5: I mean people that grew up with him and they 811 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,720 Speaker 5: spoke to that, Yeah, how they started to see the change. 812 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 5: And then Mark Curry was talking about the intro and 813 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,759 Speaker 5: the album things. He was saying, you know, now he's 814 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 5: talking like a gangster. I'll put a million dollars on 815 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 5: your head, get you raised. He marks, like, the fuck 816 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,399 Speaker 5: what did that like? When you start talking like that, 817 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,600 Speaker 5: Like so you know, you got to look at those 818 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 5: things and kind of say, okay, yeah, where did it start? 819 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 5: And I think the documentary did a good job at 820 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 5: kind of trying to point that out, like when the 821 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 5: ego came into play, when the god complex came into play, 822 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,440 Speaker 5: and then you know, talking to people who were directly 823 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 5: close to him, who were speaking to certain things that 824 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:26,800 Speaker 5: they saw and experienced, and you know, and again. 825 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,400 Speaker 3: You watch it, you take what you take from it. 826 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 3: I don't think I learned too much. 827 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,360 Speaker 5: I mean, it was interesting to see them put everything 828 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 5: together from the very beginning of you know, puff being 829 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 5: a party promoter and trying to get into the industry 830 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,360 Speaker 5: to where he ultimately ended up today. 831 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 3: I thought they did a good job with that. 832 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 5: But overall, I mean, you know, definitely probably one of 833 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 5: the better did He documentaries I think I watched. 834 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:53,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's definitely in a way different way 835 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 2: up there with the Apple music what was that Can't 836 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 2: Stop Won Stop about just bad Boy in general? I 837 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,320 Speaker 2: think I maybe like that one better because I didn't 838 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,279 Speaker 2: know about all of this shit where it was like, 839 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 2: oh I can enjoy the music and the artists and this, 840 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,279 Speaker 2: you know, was obviously a tough watch. But back to 841 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 2: the God Complex thing. Did you ever see the Anthony 842 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,880 Speaker 2: Wiener documentary? I suggest everyone go back and white. It's 843 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 2: a very fascinating documentary just about the last year of 844 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,400 Speaker 2: him in politics and him getting caught again when he 845 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,880 Speaker 2: was running for mayor, like everyone kind of forgave him, 846 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:25,360 Speaker 2: and then it was like, wait, you're still sending dick 847 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 2: pics to young girls, Like fuck is wrong. They filmed 848 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,880 Speaker 2: the entire thing, and the whole time I'm watching it, 849 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 2: I'm going, why is Anthony Wiener allowing them to film this? 850 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,400 Speaker 2: Why am I able to see these moments? I felt 851 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,759 Speaker 2: that would puff two of the God Complex? Why are 852 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,960 Speaker 2: you being filmed in a hotel talking to your lawyer 853 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:46,640 Speaker 2: that way about what type of defense that you need? Yeah, like, 854 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:47,879 Speaker 2: where in your brain? 855 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:49,239 Speaker 3: Why are you filming this? 856 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,759 Speaker 5: That was the one thing that even with the Diddy ja, 857 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 5: It's like, how did fifty get his hands on this? 858 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,239 Speaker 3: So like that happen. 859 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 2: There's been conflicting reports with what I did see that 860 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 2: seems like it would be the a troop of one. 861 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 2: Netflix was somewhat involved with Diddy shooting a documentary going 862 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,279 Speaker 2: into the trial stuff because Puff was very confident in 863 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 2: his god complex that he was going to be found innocent, 864 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:15,319 Speaker 2: and once again, to your point, he would try umph 865 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 2: fall from the ashes, and here comes Puff with this 866 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,759 Speaker 2: doc of like, damn, look what we put him through 867 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 2: with the trial trial, and he was innocent the whole time. 868 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,759 Speaker 2: I think that's what Puff had in mind. And I 869 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:27,040 Speaker 2: think Netflix was already involved. Once you get arrested, I 870 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 2: don't really know what happens with the rights of stuff 871 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,160 Speaker 2: or if anyone got paid. Netflix may have owned that footage. Yeah, 872 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 2: and then you know, here comes fifty. You guys own what? 873 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,239 Speaker 3: Yeah? I know, wait what did you say? 874 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 7: I know what? 875 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,480 Speaker 2: Editor fifty probably opened his mac book and was like, 876 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:42,680 Speaker 2: you know what, I'll do it. 877 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, man, the part with little Rod. Little Rod is 878 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:46,839 Speaker 3: his name. 879 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:52,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel bad for him. I don't feel bad 880 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:53,920 Speaker 2: laughing at some of the stuff that was in the 881 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 2: reports just because how it read. I think as humans 882 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 2: were allowed to laugh sometimes when something appears to just 883 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,800 Speaker 2: sound funny when you read it in paperwork. But once 884 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,799 Speaker 2: like he humanized it and you heard it from him. 885 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like, he got done done. I'm sorry man. Yeah, 886 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:10,640 Speaker 3: they did him dirty. 887 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:17,400 Speaker 2: Outside of the adult grooming producer grooming. Also, what do 888 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:18,719 Speaker 2: you get like seventeen k or some shit? 889 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 3: No, he said he got twenty twenty nine thousand that album. 890 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:28,400 Speaker 2: And then those voice notes like pure god, complex manipulation, 891 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 2: like puff, I was just on a yacht. Whld you 892 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,560 Speaker 2: spend one hundred grand on gas for that thing? Can 893 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,680 Speaker 2: you pay me the money that you already said. 894 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:35,920 Speaker 3: You owed me? 895 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:37,320 Speaker 6: How much did he say that he owed him? I 896 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:37,719 Speaker 6: didn't watch. 897 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,080 Speaker 2: He said two fifty was what he was supposed to 898 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:41,839 Speaker 2: get for producing on the Love album. 899 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, he ended up getting like nine thousand out of 900 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:46,560 Speaker 3: two hundred and fifty thousand, and Pope said he was 901 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 3: gonna give them. Yeah, man, it's tough, man, and it's not. 902 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 5: And you know, the fucked up part is it's so 903 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,440 Speaker 5: many people that have a story like that in industry, 904 00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:01,920 Speaker 5: do some incredible records, incredible songs, and you know, just 905 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,879 Speaker 5: because you're chasing the dream, and you know, you get 906 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,960 Speaker 5: flown out to fucking Italy on the yacht with with 907 00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,600 Speaker 5: you know, somebody that you looked up to as a kid, 908 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,800 Speaker 5: and now you're working with him and producing music with him, 909 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 5: and he telling you're gonna give you two hundred and 910 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,680 Speaker 5: fifty thousand, you like, fuck it, whatever I gotta do 911 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 5: to get this album done. 912 00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,799 Speaker 3: And you know, like if I. 913 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,120 Speaker 5: Got to witness some crazy shit, if I got to 914 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:25,879 Speaker 5: be a part of some crazy shit, you know, it's 915 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,239 Speaker 5: just it's fucked up with people pray on people like 916 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 5: that because they know that they need that opportunity and 917 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,279 Speaker 5: they you know, they need that that moment to kind 918 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,400 Speaker 5: of like be able to, like you said, take care 919 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,319 Speaker 5: of his family and his kids and have his kids 920 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,319 Speaker 5: be able to take care of their kids. That's what 921 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,400 Speaker 5: he was chasing, and that was that was his you know, 922 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:45,799 Speaker 5: his goal. But voice notes man Puff was like, Yo, 923 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,360 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, Like, I know, you know 924 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,120 Speaker 5: what I'm saying. I know you ain't going crazy. I 925 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,799 Speaker 5: was like that manipulation and. 926 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,600 Speaker 2: Then like now I feel like I got to look 927 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,239 Speaker 2: at you crazy. Yeah, like I don't want to look 928 00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 2: at you crazy. Wait, I'm crazy because I asking for 929 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,120 Speaker 2: the money that you you said that you would pay me. 930 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:04,799 Speaker 3: You came up with that number. I didn't come up 931 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:05,320 Speaker 3: with that number. 932 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough, but that's also like and I won't 933 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:12,279 Speaker 2: say it doesn't happen in other businesses, but adding on 934 00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,359 Speaker 2: to why the music industry is so fucked fucked up. 935 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,920 Speaker 2: A lot of that weird shit can happen in the 936 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 2: environment of creating music, like blocking out for the Love Sessions. Shit, 937 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,120 Speaker 2: I came on the spot, I went, I went to 938 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:24,640 Speaker 2: one of the Love Sessions. I was trying to get 939 00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 2: on that fucking album. Nothing crazy was happening in there 940 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,919 Speaker 2: at all. But when you're blocking something out for a month, Yeah, 941 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:33,920 Speaker 2: if I leave at one am, I don't know what 942 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 2: the fuck is happening at three am. But a lot 943 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,280 Speaker 2: of producers are still there, actually there just to make music. 944 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:42,319 Speaker 2: Now you're complicit into this whole thing. Like I don't 945 00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,880 Speaker 2: think Lil Rod did anything wrong when they went to 946 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:48,000 Speaker 2: the strip club on the boat. Yo, take this bad 947 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:49,960 Speaker 2: way hat on. They know what it means, Like, I'm 948 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,239 Speaker 2: here to produce, man like. But I get why little 949 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,040 Speaker 2: robouls would be like, all right, man, we just have. 950 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:55,799 Speaker 3: A woman to go. I'm not doing anything wrong. 951 00:43:55,840 --> 00:44:00,920 Speaker 2: But not realizing that you are now complacent in a 952 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:04,360 Speaker 2: way bigger sex ring right now that you have no idea, 953 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,200 Speaker 2: you're thinking, oh, he said, I'm the next member of 954 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 2: the hit Man. I'll take a bad boy hat. Let 955 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:09,680 Speaker 2: me walk around the strip club with it, not knowing 956 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:14,279 Speaker 2: that you are. Now they know that's the flag. Oh 957 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,040 Speaker 2: there's the guy that we need to go to to 958 00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,799 Speaker 2: sell pussy. Yeah, perfect, we'll go to him. And Little 959 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:20,680 Speaker 2: Ro's like, well, I'm going back to the studio. 960 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, go back to it. We're all going back. Yeah. 961 00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:26,040 Speaker 3: It was tough though. Did you watch it? Baby? Did 962 00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:26,440 Speaker 3: you finish it? 963 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:26,520 Speaker 7: No? 964 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,759 Speaker 6: I didn't. I was just I haven't even started it, 965 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:29,319 Speaker 6: that's all I was. 966 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, you should finish it before before it's taken down. Yeah, 967 00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,279 Speaker 5: well I do think it'll be taken down eventually. The 968 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,560 Speaker 5: Aubrey O'Day segment was really tough to watch. 969 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:38,960 Speaker 6: I heard about that. 970 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 3: I feel for her. 971 00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:45,279 Speaker 2: She told her story of somebody on the staff had 972 00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,160 Speaker 2: walked into one of the studios where Puff. 973 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,680 Speaker 3: And another gentleman were having sex with her. 974 00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:54,000 Speaker 2: She looked really out of it, slump, like she had 975 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:58,719 Speaker 2: clearly been drugged. She has no recollection of this whatsoever. 976 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:00,520 Speaker 2: But you could imagine the toll that would put on 977 00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,840 Speaker 2: you if somebody was like I one hundred percent, no, 978 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:07,120 Speaker 2: I walked in on you Puff and another gentleman having sex, 979 00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,480 Speaker 2: and you're like, I've that never happened, and now you're 980 00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,440 Speaker 2: starting to question everything because you know, there's been crazy 981 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,600 Speaker 2: practices with shit getting drugged and this and that. And 982 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,279 Speaker 2: she even said if this person's lying and I keep 983 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,840 Speaker 2: going with it, now that gives Puff's team even more ammo. 984 00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,400 Speaker 3: And she's like, I know, fucked up things happen. 985 00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,160 Speaker 2: So if I pursue this and it ends up not 986 00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,880 Speaker 2: being true, now it's like, hey, look they're lying over here. Yeah, 987 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,799 Speaker 2: so she's in a weird conflicted position there. 988 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,640 Speaker 4: I can't imagine because that came out in one of 989 00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,400 Speaker 4: the civil super accusers having said that in her affidavit 990 00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,400 Speaker 4: that I can't imagine hearing that for the first time, Like, 991 00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,360 Speaker 4: oh yeah, by the way he raped you too, you 992 00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,120 Speaker 4: was like knocked out, slumped and he's like what. 993 00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:48,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's wow. 994 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:49,359 Speaker 6: That's like what. 995 00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:54,160 Speaker 3: I want to ask the Marius. 996 00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,120 Speaker 2: Have you ever been in a situation or seen the 997 00:45:56,160 --> 00:46:00,839 Speaker 2: situation with two female best friends, you. 998 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,240 Speaker 3: Know, the women that are besties. 999 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,480 Speaker 2: They're not bisexual with their besties, and they're fake gay 1000 00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,080 Speaker 2: with each other, Like they would never like smoking each 1001 00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,200 Speaker 2: other's mind. Yeah, they would never bump coochiese. They're not like, 1002 00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:13,399 Speaker 2: but they'll you know, Cuchi, they'll kiss after the hookah thing, 1003 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,640 Speaker 2: just for like last or like do a selfie. They're 1004 00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:20,520 Speaker 2: not really bisexual, they're just drunk and besties. Has there 1005 00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:25,600 Speaker 2: been a situation where one wasn't doing the bestie plus 1006 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,799 Speaker 2: and the other bestie had to find that out. 1007 00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:29,120 Speaker 3: The hard way? 1008 00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:30,759 Speaker 6: Yes, that happens very well. 1009 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:32,120 Speaker 3: One wasn't doing the bestI. 1010 00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,399 Speaker 2: What Sometimes one girl is actually bisexual and this isn't 1011 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,879 Speaker 2: just fun bestI energy at the Hoopa spot. She's here 1012 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,240 Speaker 2: for game time. Some of them don't wants to bump kuccies. 1013 00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,000 Speaker 6: Some of them don't know though. Some of them don't know. 1014 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:44,239 Speaker 3: Some of them don't know what. 1015 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,000 Speaker 4: So A lot some women will have that relationship with 1016 00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,680 Speaker 4: a close friend of theirs and not realize that they're 1017 00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,960 Speaker 4: really sexually attracted until they've been doing the whole fake 1018 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,200 Speaker 4: gay thing and it's like, oh, like it's stirring up 1019 00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:55,880 Speaker 4: feelings in me? 1020 00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,239 Speaker 6: Yeah, for sure, they don't. That's how I found out 1021 00:46:59,280 --> 00:46:59,600 Speaker 6: I was there. 1022 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:01,560 Speaker 3: How did you find out you were gay? 1023 00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:05,520 Speaker 4: I found that out from playing gay and realizing, oh, I'm. 1024 00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,200 Speaker 6: Not playing Yeah. I found that out when I was younger. 1025 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,960 Speaker 2: Now it was the bestie she was bisexual and was 1026 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:12,560 Speaker 2: trying to turn you out. 1027 00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:17,920 Speaker 3: Okay, No, she was straight and y'all had This is 1028 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,360 Speaker 3: something that y'all would do when y'all was like hanging out. 1029 00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,320 Speaker 4: Just just I don't want to get too deep into 1030 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:27,120 Speaker 4: detail with it for her own protection, but yeah, like yeah. 1031 00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,000 Speaker 3: Her own protection is crazy these days. This is your friend. 1032 00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:34,680 Speaker 3: But they put our ad on the internet, so you. 1033 00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:36,640 Speaker 5: Know, the marriage finding out she's gay because she was 1034 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:37,560 Speaker 5: just playing around. 1035 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:40,600 Speaker 6: Bro, it happened. It happens a lot. 1036 00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:44,200 Speaker 2: It happens every episode of Euphoria. It's like I wasn't gay, 1037 00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:44,879 Speaker 2: I am now gay. 1038 00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,800 Speaker 3: Oh my god, that is hilarious. I'm sure that happens 1039 00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:51,040 Speaker 3: a lot. But sometimes, like you know how, that's why 1040 00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:52,600 Speaker 3: I tell the niggas, don't play gay games with me. 1041 00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,960 Speaker 2: You're gonna find out what not what male besties to 1042 00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:56,759 Speaker 2: do that. 1043 00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,200 Speaker 6: But you know that, you know the white people, white 1044 00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:00,920 Speaker 6: fret boy. 1045 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,040 Speaker 5: Y'all play the games, y'all, y'all do the games where y'all, 1046 00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:03,319 Speaker 5: you know. 1047 00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,240 Speaker 2: Get drunk and kiss my homeboy, Like now you grab 1048 00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:07,359 Speaker 2: a ball in the locker room. 1049 00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,440 Speaker 3: I've never got grabbing a ball in the locker if 1050 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:13,360 Speaker 3: it ain't a basketball period, like you know, you know, 1051 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,200 Speaker 3: the games that white boys play like I'll be staying 1052 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:16,480 Speaker 3: there and told them to a girl my wife friend 1053 00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:18,200 Speaker 3: come up behind me and pull my shorts. 1054 00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:21,280 Speaker 2: Down, like you know, okay, So that's that's hard games, 1055 00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,399 Speaker 2: the games, the fright games. 1056 00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,720 Speaker 3: Y'all play those type of games each other's ass. 1057 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:29,239 Speaker 4: But like gripping, gripping the like the cuff, good game, 1058 00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:30,160 Speaker 4: but you gripped the cuff. 1059 00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,520 Speaker 3: No, niggas, we ain't play that in my hood. That that never, 1060 00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:33,440 Speaker 3: that game didn't. 1061 00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:37,919 Speaker 2: Make it uptown after a good game. It's fucking yeah, 1062 00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:39,080 Speaker 2: like leaving your. 1063 00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,360 Speaker 3: Hand like that. We didn't need that jump shot that 1064 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:42,800 Speaker 3: bad when you got to grab my ass. 1065 00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:44,759 Speaker 4: But I always thought that that good game ship was 1066 00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:46,960 Speaker 4: weird anyway, that nigga has mad body parts. 1067 00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:48,520 Speaker 6: Why are you tapping his ass? 1068 00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,000 Speaker 5: Well, it's not really like we're not looking at it 1069 00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:52,520 Speaker 5: like tapping his ass. It's kind of like a pad 1070 00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:53,240 Speaker 5: on the. 1071 00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:56,399 Speaker 4: Back like, but it's mad back like the man's ass 1072 00:48:56,400 --> 00:49:01,160 Speaker 4: as little as it's mad back. You nah, you skipped 1073 00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,120 Speaker 4: the back and go and tap his ass. 1074 00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:05,560 Speaker 3: It's a little home more erotic. 1075 00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:07,839 Speaker 2: I'm not here to defend it. I don't I don't 1076 00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,080 Speaker 2: fully understand it either, but I mean, I guess because 1077 00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,520 Speaker 2: your arms are there after the free throw. 1078 00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:18,680 Speaker 3: It's just like in reaching distance, I'm not going I can't. 1079 00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:19,480 Speaker 2: I didn't invent it. 1080 00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,239 Speaker 5: Participation. I'm a victim of that as well. Like I've 1081 00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,839 Speaker 5: done it, I've received it, Like I just be honest, 1082 00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,000 Speaker 5: I played both growing up, like, but we weren't looking 1083 00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:28,879 Speaker 5: at it like yo, that's some weird ship. 1084 00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:30,480 Speaker 3: It was just ship that we did. 1085 00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:32,960 Speaker 4: But and then when nigga suck her out, don't like, 1086 00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:34,759 Speaker 4: have no meat on your ass. The nigga sucker on it, 1087 00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:38,560 Speaker 4: slap y'all, like, good game you and you got recoil crazy, Yeah, 1088 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,160 Speaker 4: jiggling after that's fucking crazy. 1089 00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,160 Speaker 5: Your ass having recoiled as a man is wild though, 1090 00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:46,880 Speaker 5: Like that is wow. 1091 00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,920 Speaker 2: And somebody notices it, like you got the football tights 1092 00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:52,279 Speaker 2: on me? 1093 00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:56,040 Speaker 4: So yeah, like because because that's my thing. Like so 1094 00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,439 Speaker 4: you y'all do that to like even no ass, even 1095 00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,160 Speaker 4: the home because everybody know the football player with the 1096 00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:01,440 Speaker 4: fat ass. Like we all went to school with the 1097 00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:03,400 Speaker 4: football player with the fat ass. You're telling me you 1098 00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:04,880 Speaker 4: tapped his ass and you ain't feel. 1099 00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:05,239 Speaker 6: It bounce back. 1100 00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:06,600 Speaker 2: Nah, your niggas is gay. 1101 00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:12,120 Speaker 3: I don't care we had on gloves. I didn't play football. 1102 00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:15,240 Speaker 6: Basketball shorts looser. 1103 00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:19,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, listen, baby, I'm not I'm not here to argue 1104 00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:20,360 Speaker 5: with you defended it's crazy. 1105 00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,239 Speaker 3: It's it is some weird ship. 1106 00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,600 Speaker 5: Like I get it, but we weren't looking at it 1107 00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:26,359 Speaker 5: through that lens of y'all. 1108 00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,120 Speaker 6: Wasn't somebod y'all. That's how some of y'all I was gay. 1109 00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:30,920 Speaker 3: That's the fact I well, I definitely wasn't looking through 1110 00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,400 Speaker 3: it through that lens. I definitely I didn't. That's why 1111 00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:34,799 Speaker 3: I stopped playing balls so many years ago. 1112 00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:36,120 Speaker 2: That's why you gave up the game. 1113 00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:37,360 Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, the same for me. 1114 00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:39,719 Speaker 2: You would have went to the league. If they wasn't 1115 00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:40,680 Speaker 2: slapping as they. 1116 00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:42,680 Speaker 3: Wasn't slapping ashes, I might have went pro. I ain't gonna. 1117 00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,279 Speaker 3: I might have went pro. That's how straight you are. 1118 00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:48,279 Speaker 3: I gave up. 1119 00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:52,799 Speaker 2: I was like, I don't like that ship. So what 1120 00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,040 Speaker 2: happens if you get up after this and peage goes good? Pard, 1121 00:50:55,840 --> 00:51:01,359 Speaker 2: You're know we're not doing sexual harassle. Definitely that would 1122 00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,200 Speaker 2: be funny if an athlete, because you would have some 1123 00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:04,799 Speaker 2: grounds for that. 1124 00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:06,760 Speaker 3: You're in the workplace. 1125 00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:09,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, if my teammate smacked me on the ass after 1126 00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:11,320 Speaker 2: a free throw. I'm in the workplace, I'm on the clock. 1127 00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:13,680 Speaker 2: I didn't ask for that. 1128 00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:15,719 Speaker 3: That's just weird, though, but I get it. 1129 00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,239 Speaker 5: But baby DM, I'm glad you shed light on the 1130 00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:19,959 Speaker 5: finding out how you're gay. 1131 00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:22,319 Speaker 3: I think that's important. I think women need to hear that. 1132 00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:24,080 Speaker 6: I mean, but I was very young. 1133 00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:26,120 Speaker 4: I won't say which age again because it will expose 1134 00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:27,759 Speaker 4: the friend, but I was very young. 1135 00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,080 Speaker 2: So I just think it happens a lot in adulthood because, 1136 00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:32,680 Speaker 2: as we said, women aren't really friends with each other, 1137 00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:34,719 Speaker 2: and they meet like a lot of friends, like at 1138 00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,279 Speaker 2: the club and become besties. They're like, they'll have ig 1139 00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:38,160 Speaker 2: batty friends. 1140 00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:40,440 Speaker 4: I think of the gay and I think some of 1141 00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,359 Speaker 4: the studio sessions and say that you're your friends. 1142 00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:43,799 Speaker 6: I'm so tired of y'all shooting at women. 1143 00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,120 Speaker 4: Y'all be meet, y'all be meeting at a bar, y'all 1144 00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:48,640 Speaker 4: be meet, and niggas at the bar, y'all happen to 1145 00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:49,520 Speaker 4: be fucking two bitches. 1146 00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:51,319 Speaker 6: That's cool. Now y'all friends like y'all in. 1147 00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:54,239 Speaker 2: The studio together, And now y'all that's survival. Yeah, if 1148 00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:55,680 Speaker 2: I got a double date, at least, like, let me 1149 00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:56,640 Speaker 2: try to get along with me. 1150 00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,040 Speaker 5: I've never met a random man at a bar and 1151 00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:00,640 Speaker 5: we're still friends to this day. Let me just put 1152 00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,279 Speaker 5: that up there. You have done that either, it's never had. 1153 00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:04,279 Speaker 5: That's a wild thing. 1154 00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:06,640 Speaker 4: Y'all meet the random homie of a random homie and 1155 00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,239 Speaker 4: now your friends Like now y'all boys, not y'all a boys. 1156 00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:09,439 Speaker 3: Shit. 1157 00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:12,279 Speaker 5: So you mean like I brings a friend in here 1158 00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,759 Speaker 5: and like we all kicking it and like now your friends, 1159 00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,680 Speaker 5: Well not today, I'm not gonna leave, Like, yo, that's 1160 00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:18,400 Speaker 5: my friend. 1161 00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:20,800 Speaker 3: But like if he's around for the next. 1162 00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,040 Speaker 5: Two three years and we hanging out te people meet, yeah, 1163 00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:24,960 Speaker 5: like yeah, that's like, yo, that I met him. 1164 00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:27,239 Speaker 2: Like damn, you didn't know that girl and you got 1165 00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:28,920 Speaker 2: to know where and married her. That's the marriage. 1166 00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:32,200 Speaker 3: Do the same thing. We're not doing. 1167 00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:32,920 Speaker 6: We're gonna do that. 1168 00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:36,080 Speaker 4: We're not right, not not this week, not that, this 1169 00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:37,319 Speaker 4: today is not this is not the week. 1170 00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,120 Speaker 3: This is not the week for that. Okay, I'm sorry 1171 00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:39,440 Speaker 3: because I. 1172 00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:41,440 Speaker 6: Know where you're going and I don't want to have 1173 00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:42,200 Speaker 6: to steer you out. 1174 00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,440 Speaker 5: You know, I'm not I'm not I would never do that. 1175 00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:46,000 Speaker 5: I'm not going there I'm not going there. 1176 00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:49,239 Speaker 2: What's fucked up is that is a double standard with men. 1177 00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:55,600 Speaker 2: Like women can meet their friends any and everywhere. Men like, yeah, 1178 00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:56,920 Speaker 2: we would look at you a little weird if he 1179 00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:58,319 Speaker 2: was like, yeah, you know, I was just you know, 1180 00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:00,600 Speaker 2: having a beer and he was right next to me 1181 00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:02,640 Speaker 2: and we became friends. 1182 00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't. We can't meet each other. I think 1183 00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:06,399 Speaker 3: that guy has something else on his mind. 1184 00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, we can't meet. We can't because then it's like, Yo, 1185 00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:11,839 Speaker 5: what's up with your men? Why keep hitting trying to 1186 00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:12,560 Speaker 5: talk and text me? 1187 00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,640 Speaker 2: What's like you have to be like and like we 1188 00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:18,080 Speaker 2: kicked it, and like you can't just meet men and 1189 00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:18,799 Speaker 2: be friends with them. 1190 00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:22,480 Speaker 4: But see, that's why the male loneliness epidemic. Yeah, ain't 1191 00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:25,800 Speaker 4: got no fucking friends because y'all be afraid to meet people. 1192 00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:28,840 Speaker 3: Not afraid. I just don't fuck with people. 1193 00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:31,600 Speaker 2: You should probably fuck with people just randomly chatting it up. 1194 00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:32,879 Speaker 6: You got four hundred brothers and sister. 1195 00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,600 Speaker 5: I got my friends, I got I'm cool. I don't 1196 00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:39,080 Speaker 5: need like to meet new friends. 1197 00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,120 Speaker 6: You had a best friend, all, Yeah, what's his name? 1198 00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:41,839 Speaker 3: Mike? 1199 00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:42,560 Speaker 6: Mike? 1200 00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:44,600 Speaker 4: I ain't never heard of Mike. Why I never met 1201 00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:49,719 Speaker 4: Mike before. Mm hm, no, it's not ringing a bell either. 1202 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:51,560 Speaker 6: He ever ever been around? 1203 00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:53,600 Speaker 5: He was, he came to the he came when we 1204 00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,440 Speaker 5: had the He was here when we had the people 1205 00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:57,680 Speaker 5: pull up for the party. 1206 00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:00,279 Speaker 3: Oh, you might have left he pulled up as I 1207 00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:02,799 Speaker 3: don't think that was there. You met him? What God 1208 00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,600 Speaker 3: owns the store? Oh shit, yeah, a bunch of times. Okay, 1209 00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:06,640 Speaker 3: he was here, he came in. 1210 00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:08,800 Speaker 5: You might have left though, Yeah, But that's wh like 1211 00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:10,560 Speaker 5: we grew up together, Like I might have known him 1212 00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:11,160 Speaker 5: since I was like. 1213 00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:13,720 Speaker 6: So like he will say Malla is my best friend. 1214 00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:16,759 Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know if we say best friends. 1215 00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:18,680 Speaker 5: We wouldn't say that. We don't put that on. 1216 00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:20,919 Speaker 3: It MySpace topic. You guys will both be number one. 1217 00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,600 Speaker 5: That's a little weird too, but like we know like that, 1218 00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:27,680 Speaker 5: that's that's like family. At this point, I was like, 1219 00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:29,640 Speaker 5: I think I was eleven and he was nine when 1220 00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:30,279 Speaker 5: we first met. 1221 00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:34,000 Speaker 6: So is that what makes men best friends? Is that time? 1222 00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:34,680 Speaker 6: Is it time? 1223 00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:37,120 Speaker 4: Because Rory's best friend has been his best friend since 1224 00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:39,320 Speaker 4: he was like seven too. So I always wonder what 1225 00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:41,640 Speaker 4: men like because I know what women. It's about who 1226 00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:45,239 Speaker 4: we feel closest to. With men, is it like. 1227 00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:47,720 Speaker 5: Well for me, well for me, I'm speaking for myself, 1228 00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:52,480 Speaker 5: it's yes, time, but it's also experiences is also going 1229 00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:54,759 Speaker 5: through things together and then like just that bond of 1230 00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:58,799 Speaker 5: like we cannot speak for three months like at all, 1231 00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,719 Speaker 5: and then I and call him. We pick up right 1232 00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,160 Speaker 5: where we left off three months ago, like we don't 1233 00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,600 Speaker 5: have to see each other every day. He got his life, 1234 00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:08,960 Speaker 5: his family, I got my life, you know what I'm saying. 1235 00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:13,800 Speaker 5: It's like, yes, like we don't have to like our relationship, 1236 00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,160 Speaker 5: our bond is not continued on to speaking every day, 1237 00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:19,279 Speaker 5: like I don't need to speak to nobody every single day, 1238 00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,400 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. So it's like, you know, 1239 00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:23,560 Speaker 5: you know what somebody is because you've been through some 1240 00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:27,240 Speaker 5: things and loyalty was tested and you know things like that, 1241 00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:30,600 Speaker 5: integrity was tested and you just see who somebody is 1242 00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:31,960 Speaker 5: and then you look up at black damn like we 1243 00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:35,600 Speaker 5: known each other over thirty years, Like this shit is crazy. 1244 00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:38,960 Speaker 5: So yeah, that's like I can't even say best friend. 1245 00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:40,880 Speaker 5: That's that's family at this point, that's not even like 1246 00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:41,719 Speaker 5: a best friend. 1247 00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:45,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, because even like yeah, I think women define best 1248 00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:48,280 Speaker 2: friend differently too, because there may be people I'm closer 1249 00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:50,919 Speaker 2: with than my best friend at the moment, just because 1250 00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:53,440 Speaker 2: of where my life is. To your point, I'm not 1251 00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:57,120 Speaker 2: to speaking, but that's still my best friend been thirty years, 1252 00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:00,799 Speaker 2: but we don't speak every day like I I'm probably 1253 00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:05,360 Speaker 2: closer with Raven on like ravens like like daily talking 1254 00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:08,160 Speaker 2: about what's going on in my life than him. But 1255 00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:11,279 Speaker 2: I wouldn't say that Raven is my best best I 1256 00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:11,600 Speaker 2: don't know. 1257 00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:13,000 Speaker 6: I would say your best friend. 1258 00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:14,799 Speaker 2: She's definitely one of my best friends for sure, But 1259 00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:18,040 Speaker 2: I don't know that the family it is Raven is fair. 1260 00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:20,120 Speaker 2: That's not That's what I'm saying. I can't put best. 1261 00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:22,520 Speaker 4: Your best friends should be family like your best friend 1262 00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:23,000 Speaker 4: should be fan. 1263 00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:25,920 Speaker 3: Yes, agreed, I didn't mean my best friend in the 1264 00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,120 Speaker 3: bar over a beer. Yeah. 1265 00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:30,680 Speaker 4: But also what men require from their friendships as well 1266 00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:32,160 Speaker 4: known that y'all don't require much. 1267 00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:37,799 Speaker 3: Men don't require much. We don't know. 1268 00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:39,440 Speaker 6: It's just the things y'all require. 1269 00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:41,160 Speaker 3: Those are the important things. 1270 00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:45,799 Speaker 4: Loyalty, honesty, y'all loves requiring loyalty and not giving it out. 1271 00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,640 Speaker 5: N that's that's that's young niggas that do that. That's 1272 00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:53,480 Speaker 5: little boys that don't grown man talk. 1273 00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:56,600 Speaker 3: Cheating is a young young. 1274 00:56:56,400 --> 00:57:00,520 Speaker 5: Boy sport who brought up a rich man sport that too, 1275 00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:05,320 Speaker 5: But you nah, you when you loyals, it's just something 1276 00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:06,439 Speaker 5: that you don't even have to think about. 1277 00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:10,520 Speaker 3: It's just who you are. You have to think about it. Yeah, William, 1278 00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:12,720 Speaker 3: what so don't put me in that box, baby, I'm sorry. 1279 00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:17,280 Speaker 2: On Sunday, Sunday, with my free afternoon, I'm gonna go 1280 00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:18,680 Speaker 2: to the bar and just just chat it up with 1281 00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:19,240 Speaker 2: a fella. 1282 00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:22,360 Speaker 4: You should, I'm serious. You never know what you have 1283 00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:23,880 Speaker 4: in common with people, and then you'll be like, girls 1284 00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:25,480 Speaker 4: aren't really friends. You guys that meet each other at 1285 00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:27,600 Speaker 4: a club and suddenly your friends. It's like, well, yeah, 1286 00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:30,080 Speaker 4: girls make connection. And then if hey, if I'm getting 1287 00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:32,600 Speaker 4: to notice person and they become deeper in my life, 1288 00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:33,520 Speaker 4: they become deeper in my life. 1289 00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:34,880 Speaker 6: If not, then we get rid of I'm bitch weird. 1290 00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:36,400 Speaker 5: But if I go to a bar and a random 1291 00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:38,680 Speaker 5: man just starts having conversations with me and he's not 1292 00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:41,680 Speaker 5: the one making my drinks, get the fuck away from me. 1293 00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:44,280 Speaker 3: He's either gay or I'm getting lined. Yeah, it's one 1294 00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,000 Speaker 3: of those. That's just the world we live. 1295 00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:48,600 Speaker 5: Either he's trying to take me home, or he's trying 1296 00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:52,680 Speaker 5: to take my kidney. 1297 00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:54,480 Speaker 2: Not a way an organ is involved. 1298 00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:57,440 Speaker 3: Not the way is not happening. 1299 00:57:57,680 --> 00:57:59,360 Speaker 2: I'm an organ, dona that night regardless. 1300 00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:05,160 Speaker 4: But uh, but but sometimes like I've been to like 1301 00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:06,640 Speaker 4: I've been on the phone with a man who was 1302 00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:08,360 Speaker 4: at a bar and like there was like a chatty 1303 00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:09,240 Speaker 4: white boy next to him. 1304 00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:09,680 Speaker 6: He drunk. 1305 00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:12,080 Speaker 4: He just yet he hate his wife. He just needs 1306 00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:14,760 Speaker 4: somebody to talk to. Like I think that that's like 1307 00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:15,680 Speaker 4: as humans, that. 1308 00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:18,680 Speaker 2: We talk to somebody the airport bar, but we knew 1309 00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:20,439 Speaker 2: that we're getting on separate flights and never I don't 1310 00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:20,840 Speaker 2: even want to know. 1311 00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:22,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, we've never seen each other. 1312 00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:24,000 Speaker 6: What if you guys have, like you know, you could 1313 00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:25,120 Speaker 6: do business together. 1314 00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:26,480 Speaker 3: Well, that's that's different. 1315 00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:28,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, if the conversation goes there and you find out 1316 00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,240 Speaker 5: like he does something and y'all kind of in the 1317 00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:32,640 Speaker 5: same industry, like yeah. 1318 00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:34,360 Speaker 6: And then you guys become friends. 1319 00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:39,160 Speaker 3: I don't know about that. It's a little gay. That's gay. 1320 00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:41,360 Speaker 3: Jersey swapping is gay. 1321 00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:42,440 Speaker 6: What's jersey swapping? 1322 00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:43,920 Speaker 3: After games? 1323 00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,760 Speaker 2: Athletes will swap jerseys and take photos, and now people 1324 00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:48,480 Speaker 2: are doing it outside of the club with their button 1325 00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:49,120 Speaker 2: up shirts. 1326 00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:52,920 Speaker 6: Man, I'm not see that's crazy. 1327 00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:56,120 Speaker 5: I can see Peach doing that though he's definitely that's 1328 00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,760 Speaker 5: definitely Peas peachbag. 1329 00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:04,400 Speaker 7: No people, I don't think there's anything to strangers at 1330 00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:07,080 Speaker 7: the bar, but like to continue on, I get at 1331 00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:10,439 Speaker 7: your local like cheers, like that guy's there every time 1332 00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:10,919 Speaker 7: you're there. 1333 00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:13,760 Speaker 2: I could see you forming some type of a friendship. 1334 00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:16,120 Speaker 2: But to just go to a random bar meet a 1335 00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:18,040 Speaker 2: guy like let's exchange numbers and get lunch. 1336 00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:25,040 Speaker 5: But listen, I know it sounds crazy. It's just because 1337 00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:27,040 Speaker 5: would be with it. He'll be, he'll be and to 1338 00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:29,240 Speaker 5: be women like he'll be talking to a woman. 1339 00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:32,480 Speaker 4: Man, pease be no peace, be talking about that mad 1340 00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:33,880 Speaker 4: fellas like at the bar. 1341 00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:34,120 Speaker 6: Bro. 1342 00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:39,640 Speaker 2: Fellas, Like if you're sitting there talking about the game, 1343 00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:42,360 Speaker 2: like that's not holding or like yeah that's different, like 1344 00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:44,000 Speaker 2: we're watching the game. That's fine. 1345 00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:44,920 Speaker 6: Y'all should stop. 1346 00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:47,160 Speaker 4: But I've said this plenty of times when y'all say 1347 00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:49,280 Speaker 4: women we can't do anything, or women call us gay, No, 1348 00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:52,760 Speaker 4: it'd be y'all. Y'all put so many gay strengths on 1349 00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:55,840 Speaker 4: each other, like just be humans and you would have 1350 00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:57,360 Speaker 4: so much more fulfilling. 1351 00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:59,080 Speaker 5: Through were talking ship, Like, of course, so I go 1352 00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:00,680 Speaker 5: to a bar, I've had com conversations with. 1353 01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:04,680 Speaker 1: What you can tell, you can number, we're not doing 1354 01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:08,200 Speaker 1: that usually anytime going out, there's a lot of mutual 1355 01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:10,720 Speaker 1: Like if I'm talking to this person, they know somebody 1356 01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:11,960 Speaker 1: that I know that's here. 1357 01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:13,920 Speaker 3: So that's why I've never found out. 1358 01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,680 Speaker 2: I'm saying, just if I go across the street and 1359 01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:19,240 Speaker 2: just sit down and just start chatting it up and 1360 01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:21,800 Speaker 2: then find out how to come see the office, And 1361 01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:23,000 Speaker 2: you guys are like, how'd you meet him? 1362 01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:24,600 Speaker 3: Like, oh, we met at a bar. 1363 01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:25,240 Speaker 6: Fire. 1364 01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:29,400 Speaker 5: I don't know, there's nothing fire about that. Get this 1365 01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:32,160 Speaker 5: fucking random guy out of here before he kills all 1366 01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:32,240 Speaker 5: of 1367 01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:35,120 Speaker 3: Us, And where's our skin for a fucking jacket, like