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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for

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Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,

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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyon, and this is episode number tay

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Speaker 1: in the show, we're diving deep into the topic of

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Speaker 1: shed hunting and joining us is Michael Terby Phil and

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Speaker 1: Dan Perez of white Tail Properties. All right, welcome to

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Speaker 1: the Wired to Hunt podcast. And it's early March, and

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Speaker 1: that means one thing for white tail addicts like you

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Speaker 1: and me, shed hunting. And some of you know this

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Speaker 1: coming weekend, March seven is the shed Rally, which is

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Speaker 1: a pretty cool event that many of us are gonna

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Speaker 1: be participating in. And then we'll talk about a little

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Speaker 1: bit more here in a couple of minutes. But that said,

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Speaker 1: today I want to talk shed hunting tips and tactics

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Speaker 1: to make sure that we're all ready to find plenty

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Speaker 1: of antlers this weekend and in the weeks beyond. But Dan,

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Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but I'm a little worried

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Speaker 1: about my shed hunting plants coming up this weekend because

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Speaker 1: we are just getting clovered with snow. What's uh, what's

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Speaker 1: the deal? Over by you huge announcement shed rally has

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Speaker 1: been canceled because I said so, man, we got we

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Speaker 1: got about eight inches of snow out my front yard

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Speaker 1: and backyard we got probably five, which means that there's

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Speaker 1: probably eight to ten in the timber. Still. Um, it's

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Speaker 1: it's not gonna warm up fast enough for that snow

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Speaker 1: until next week. Like next weekend is gonna be prime

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Speaker 1: shed hunting, except I'll be in a wedding in Chicago.

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Speaker 1: You get some horrible wedding plans like isn't didn't your brother?

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Speaker 1: Isn't that right? Isn't your brother getting married in November?

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Speaker 1: That's coming here, Let's not talk about it, Mark, I

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Speaker 1: want to stay positive for this this episode. We'll try

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Speaker 1: to stay positive. But yeah, that's a bummer, man. I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you what I've been getting. My shedding plans all

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Speaker 1: screwed up too. I was supposed to go to Ohio

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Speaker 1: last weekend, but they got a bunch of snow, so

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Speaker 1: we pushed it to this weekend. And now today that

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Speaker 1: they have a winter storm warning. They're supposed to get

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Speaker 1: potentially seven to twelve inches, and so me and my

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Speaker 1: you know, my least partner Josh, and my buddy Corey

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Speaker 1: there this weekend. And like, this is the most excited

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Speaker 1: you know, you know, all the stuff that's going on

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Speaker 1: now I don't know. This is where I'm just crossing

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Speaker 1: all my fingers and toes and hoping that this storm

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Speaker 1: sleet and stuff like that, which is a possibility because

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Speaker 1: want to go find some bone. Yeah me too, Um,

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Speaker 1: these people on the news they're saying, oh, global warming,

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Speaker 1: and then from there we know what what happens from there,

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Speaker 1: rest of the rest of your life. That was that

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Speaker 1: need to say this stand, but but you have to.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you fall through the ice, survival, you know,

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Speaker 1: And and you're like, no, man, I'm fine, you know,

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Speaker 1: doing Dan, it was just a little over aggressive. It

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Speaker 1: I want to make a brief announcement about something we

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Speaker 1: talked about last week. Dan. Yes, and that's the fact

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Speaker 1: that the brand new, redesigned, rebranded Wired to Hunt dot

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Speaker 1: I do like it, Thank you, sir. It's been like

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Speaker 1: the logo, thanks man, it's you know, as you've seen,

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Speaker 1: it's a lot easier to navigate, a lot easier to

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Speaker 1: So hopefully all those things, uh, you know, work out

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Speaker 1: the way we're hoping they will. And also, Dan, we've

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Speaker 1: make sure let everyone out too. Well, I hope that

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Speaker 1: I know Daniel focused on just just to you exactly. Well,

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Speaker 1: it all right, Let's get the guys on the line.

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Speaker 1: All right. Here with us on the line is Dan

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Speaker 1: or the two of you, could could you guys give

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Speaker 1: Tail properties, and maybe Dan, could you kick us off. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm as you as you mentioned Dan Perez, I'm

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Speaker 1: and and and many other levels of media and the

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Speaker 1: real estate are our business. It revolves around the white

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Speaker 1: tailed deer. That's that is our niche. We we presently

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Speaker 1: have a footprint of twenty one states. We're in all

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Speaker 1: guys is uh is a land specialists. They think, they breathe,

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Speaker 1: They grow dear. And so that's in a nutshell, that's

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Speaker 1: who we are. Awesome. And then Michael, what's your role

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Speaker 1: in the white tailed properties? So, guys, I handle marketing

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Speaker 1: level that are being offered by white tailed property UH

428
00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,520
Speaker 1: on my farm, we'll have some awards at the end

429
00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,560
Speaker 1: of the day and they'll they'll be um most handlers,

430
00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:32,199
Speaker 1: most antlers found will win an award. UH. The largest

431
00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,439
Speaker 1: handler will win at an award, and the smallest handler

432
00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,760
Speaker 1: will win an award. UH. The smallest antler is important

433
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,879
Speaker 1: because I've seen guys come in with a single spike

434
00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 1: that was two inches and that took much more to

435
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 1: find that than it would a large antler. You know,

436
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,760
Speaker 1: I UH, I scan a field or I'll scan U.

437
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,960
Speaker 1: I'll scan the woods and in my mind, if it

438
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,160
Speaker 1: doesn't really jump out sometimes, well then I didn't miss much,

439
00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,680
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But but I like it

440
00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 1: when when it seems like the little guys always find

441
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,560
Speaker 1: the little antlers. I don't know why that is. Well,

442
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 1: maybe it's because they're closer to the ground and they

443
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 1: see them real clearly. There was the kids always find

444
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,400
Speaker 1: the little one. So it's it's cool, it'll be fun

445
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 1: for everybody. We're we're really excited about looking forward to it.

446
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 1: That's awesome. That sounds like that's gonna be a lot

447
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,000
Speaker 1: of fun. I uh, I can't claim that me and

448
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 1: my friends have got prizes lined up ourselves for our

449
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,639
Speaker 1: shout hunting plans on Saturday, but I do know that

450
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 1: whoever finds the biggest antler will probably get a beer

451
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,960
Speaker 1: on me, so that we'll have that going at least

452
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,400
Speaker 1: down by us. Now, I don't need when Mark, when

453
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,680
Speaker 1: Mark said hunts, he doesn't need an excuse to fall

454
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:40,119
Speaker 1: through the ice. Yeah, that's we're just talking about this.

455
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 1: Last year, me and Dallas were shut hunting together and

456
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:47,440
Speaker 1: I actually fell through a frozen river. So yeah, so

457
00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:53,439
Speaker 1: we uh, I won't be voluntarily participating anything like that either. Now, UM,

458
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:59,200
Speaker 1: that all said, I'm curious you kind of mentioned a

459
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 1: few of these things in UM, but I kind of

460
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 1: want to hear like your your pitch, like you're tight

461
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 1: sales pitch on this for someone out there listening who's

462
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,359
Speaker 1: a serious deer hunter, but for whatever reason, he just

463
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,480
Speaker 1: hasn't gotten the shed hunting. And we've kind of walked

464
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 1: around the edges of this, but could you give me

465
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 1: like your your sales pitch to this guy? You know,

466
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,359
Speaker 1: why should he go shed hunting? In like thirty seconds

467
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 1: or a minute. What's your really quick sales pitch on that,

468
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 1: you know. I'm just gonna share why why I go,

469
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 1: And maybe maybe that might encourage some people because I

470
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 1: love Here's here's me. And if if you're if you're

471
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 1: anything like me, you you love, um everything that has

472
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 1: to do with land. That's why I'm in the land business.

473
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,439
Speaker 1: I love the grass, I love the leaves, I love

474
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 1: the water, I love the trees. I love every aspect

475
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,440
Speaker 1: of nature and I just love to be out in

476
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 1: it walking and and if I find an antler, that's

477
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 1: that's great, that's the icing on the cake. But if

478
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 1: I don't, I had I had a wonderful day, a

479
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,639
Speaker 1: wonderful time in God's country, and if I'm able to

480
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,680
Speaker 1: share that with friends and family, that's even huge for me.

481
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,400
Speaker 1: You know. That's that's that's even bigger than the icing

482
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 1: and the cake. So that's that's a quick or why

483
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 1: you should consider doing it. That's awesome. That's a really

484
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 1: good point. And I'll I guess I'll add in a

485
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 1: couple more. That's that's the most important stuff about getting

486
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 1: out there. But also from a practical standpoint, Um, And

487
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:17,440
Speaker 1: I'm sure you might be able to speak more of

488
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 1: this to Dan Um, but you know, from my perspective,

489
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 1: I think shed hunting does a lot for you from

490
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 1: an actual strategy standpoint because you can tell, okay, which

491
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 1: bucks made it through to the new year. That's gonna

492
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 1: formulate It's gonna help you formulate a strategy that it's gonna,

493
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,160
Speaker 1: you know, eventually be applied during the hunting season. Where

494
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 1: you find these sheds can help you learn something about

495
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,400
Speaker 1: some of these particular bucks too. So if you find

496
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,399
Speaker 1: the big eight sheds deep in this seedar thicket, you

497
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 1: can start realizing, hey, this might be one of his

498
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,120
Speaker 1: betting hears. That's something you can apply in the future. Um.

499
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 1: So those are two things from a practical standpoint that

500
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,479
Speaker 1: I think everyone should keep in mind too when they

501
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 1: go shed hunting. This isn't just about you know, getting

502
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 1: an antler that you can put on your you know,

503
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,680
Speaker 1: on your mantelpiece. These are things that can actually be

504
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:59,159
Speaker 1: applied to developing a strategy, um, you know, months from now.

505
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,399
Speaker 1: So I know that I'm gonna be keeping that in

506
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 1: mind this weekend, um down Ohio, because I really want

507
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 1: to know a couple of these bucks if they survived.

508
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 1: Um And I actually had a situation where I hit

509
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 1: a deer last year on this property, wasn't able to

510
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 1: recover him. And I'm very hopeful that I'll find his

511
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,959
Speaker 1: sheds um and and build confirmed if he's alive. Um.

512
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 1: But those are just a few of other reasons, you know,

513
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 1: in addition to all the other great aspects of shed hunting,

514
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:26,680
Speaker 1: I think people people should keep in mind. So absolutely so,

515
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 1: what do you think you know? How many sheds do

516
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,120
Speaker 1: you think you found in You mentioned you've been shed hunting,

517
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 1: You've been hunting antlers your whole life. Do you keep

518
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 1: track of that? No? I don't. I couldn't tell you

519
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 1: how much I've found in my life. But I did

520
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,879
Speaker 1: have one year, um that I found a hundred forty

521
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,640
Speaker 1: two antlers. I know that that was. That was a big,

522
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 1: big year for me. Um And and it was partly

523
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 1: two things. It was at that time I was walking

524
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 1: a lot of property selling land as well, and and

525
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 1: every every moment that I had that I could be

526
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,119
Speaker 1: in the woods looking for antlers, I was doing at

527
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 1: as well. So I you know, I had that going

528
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 1: for me. It's it's pretty cool when your when your

529
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: job revolves around being in the outdoors, you know. So

530
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 1: I have some opportunities a lot of people do not

531
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 1: have as far as finding antlers. But that was a

532
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,479
Speaker 1: big year. That was. That was a big year. If

533
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 1: you know, I have no idea how many I've found

534
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 1: in my life because I've been looking for him my

535
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 1: whole life. It's just, um, I found him everywhere. And

536
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 1: I'm originally from Florida and uh and and like like

537
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,880
Speaker 1: here in the Midwest, they get antlers are eating very

538
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 1: quickly in the South and and in the Midwest. When

539
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,159
Speaker 1: I say the Midwest, there's parts of the Midwest that

540
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 1: they don't maybe maybe there's more snow in in Minnesota,

541
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 1: for example, and the squirrels can't get to the antlers

542
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 1: as quickly, so they last longer. But in the South

543
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 1: there's no snow and there's a lot of a lot

544
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,360
Speaker 1: of rodents and a lot of a lot of squirrels. Um,

545
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,719
Speaker 1: so they're they're eating very, very quickly. So you've got

546
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,159
Speaker 1: to get out there very you gotta get out right away.

547
00:26:56,320 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 1: You know, we're here, Um like we're waiting until well,

548
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 1: well this weekend March seventh, I guess it'll be and um,

549
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: and we're going to get out. In some places, Um,

550
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,120
Speaker 1: they're eaten within a week of when they drop off

551
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: a deer's head. Um, so it Uh. Yeah, I wish

552
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 1: I could tell you. Yeah, six six million, I don't

553
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 1: have any idea that's a hundred forty. However many in

554
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 1: a year, that's pretty incredible. I cannot I cannot claim

555
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 1: anything close to that. My my best I think twelve.

556
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 1: So I've gotta ways to go. But what about you, Dallas,

557
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 1: how's the what's the most you've ever found? I think

558
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 1: the most I've ever found in one year was I

559
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 1: was also unemployed that year, so I had a lot

560
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: of spare time. Uh, and it just so happened to

561
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: fall during UM late February in March that I was unemployed,

562
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 1: So I think I found close to thirty thirty antlers. Nice.

563
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: That's not a bad year at all for the average guy.

564
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 1: So you touched on this day in a second ago

565
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 1: UM about the timing of shed hunting and how it's

566
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: important to get out there before you know, antlers get

567
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,439
Speaker 1: start getting chewed on by squirrels and whatnot. But then

568
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 1: there's also issues like snow that might keep you from

569
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: going out there. What are your thoughts on the timing

570
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: of shed hunting. When do you think is the best

571
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 1: time to shut hunt? And or what are the considerations

572
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: that we should keep in mind when choosing when to

573
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 1: shut hunt. Yeah, that's a good question. Timing is really

574
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 1: really important for a couple of reasons. One is you

575
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 1: don't you don't want to start so soon that you

576
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 1: push these animals onto your neighbors where they dropped their

577
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: antlers next door, rather than on the property that you're

578
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: able to access, whether it's a lease or your own property.

579
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: And and so you've got to be careful there. So

580
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: what I try to do is, UM is take a

581
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: my either my U, my hunt vi or or a

582
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 1: gator and work the fields. In other words, do not

583
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 1: I try not to intrude into the timber until it's

584
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: it's pretty much until I'm pretty close to when most

585
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: of the deer have dropped their antlers. It's hard to

586
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 1: put a date on when all of them we've dropped

587
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 1: their antlers, because there's there's animals right now that, believe

588
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 1: it or not, are still trying to breed it. Uh,

589
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 1: It's it's crazy. I've seen fields before, I've looked across

590
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: food plots before, and I've I've seen animals were there,

591
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: their their antlers are developing. In other words, their their

592
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: velvet and the big you can see the big bulbs

593
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 1: at the end. And uh, at the same time, there

594
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: were there was a deer on that field they had

595
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: hard antlers, and and there were deer on that field

596
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: with drop antlers, and and and and a something A

597
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 1: reference of that is you you'll see frauns sometimes with

598
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 1: spots all different times of the year, because it's not

599
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 1: um it's not the same all the time. That the

600
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: dose don't do not all come into estrus at the

601
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: same time, and the bucks do not all drop their

602
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: antlers at the same time. Um. But anyway, um concerning

603
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 1: the timing, Um, I work the edges, the fields and stuff,

604
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 1: and again because I don't want to push them out. Uh.

605
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: So so when it's time, when when the majority the

606
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: deer have dropped their antlers, then I'll enter the timber

607
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: as well. This way I won't push them out by

608
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: working the fields. But now I'm looking for him in

609
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: their antlers and their bedding areas and and uh and

610
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 1: a lot of other places. I look in bedding areas.

611
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you the best way that I look

612
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: at it is if I'm a deer and I'm I'm

613
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: I'm out all night, okay, And now sun the sun

614
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 1: is starting to come out, and and I catch those

615
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: first warm rays that are coming from the south and

616
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 1: from the east. Well, I'm just gonna I'm on a

617
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: bed somewhere where I'm nice and comfortable, and that sun

618
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 1: hits me because it's been cold all night. It's it's winter. Um.

619
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 1: So two places that I key on I like to

620
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: too key on edge uh. Edge and edges is very

621
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 1: dominant here because of the agriculture. You know, edge um

622
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: that is on the on the south and the southeast side.

623
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,239
Speaker 1: Of the edge. I look for that quite a bit.

624
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 1: I slopes um the side of hogbacks or or hills

625
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: or or gullies, the sides where it does two things.

626
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: It uh, you've got the the south facing slope if

627
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: there's not if it's not heavily timbered, you'll get plenty

628
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 1: of sun and it's warm and it's comfortable. And that's

629
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: where they bed And that the back side of that

630
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: slope is it breaks the wind. It's important for them

631
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: not to have that north wind on them. So it

632
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: serves as two purposes. That's when I go into the

633
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 1: timber on when I'm when I'm in the field, first

634
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the at the south southeast edge is

635
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: quite a bit. I don't. I don't hardly look at

636
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 1: the shade side of of stuff very much, although I

637
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: oh I will when I'm driving around. But most of

638
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 1: the antlers I find will be where the where the

639
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: deer finally bedded after a long night and they want

640
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 1: to bed some were warm, you know, if that makes

641
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: sense to you guys. So so the south facing slopes

642
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: and the south facing edge is a big deal for me,

643
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: and and and and and the other thing to go

644
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: along with I think you mentioned something about I think

645
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: about dry bedding. I'm not I'm not sure the context

646
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: of what you said, but dry bedding is really important

647
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: also because when the snow falls, everything's wet, and you

648
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: would think that, uh uh, the oak leaves would be good,

649
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: but the oak leaves get pretty muddy out out in

650
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: the timber. I like I like cedar thick it's cried

651
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: a bit, and maybe that's what you mentioned. Maybe it

652
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 1: was cedars, I'm not sure cedars, pines, anything that provides

653
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: really dry bedding. UM. A lot of people plant the

654
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: warm season grasses on their properties. When those grasses fall over,

655
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: they provide really dry bedding as well. Those deer, you know,

656
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: it's cold and then they don't really like to lay

657
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: in a mud puddle. So so I I key on

658
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: those areas. I try to What I try to do

659
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 1: is knock out the areas that are the hottest spots first.

660
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: That's that's where I'm going. First. Of course, the hottest

661
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: areas UM, and it changes with time, is is the

662
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: the post season food sources. The best post season food sources,

663
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: because you know there's food sources that were hot, really

664
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: hot during hunting season that at the end of this,

665
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: at the post of the season, their cold. Maybe that's

666
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: that was clover for example, it turns dormatic as soon

667
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 1: as it freezes there it's dormate, you know. So some

668
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: of the hotter, hotter food sources obviously look for antlers

669
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: in those food sources and around those food sources. So

670
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: now I could venture into the timber around those really

671
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: hot food sources. That's a that's probably my number one um,

672
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: you know. And on this particular topic of timing, I

673
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 1: I don't know if you want me to get into

674
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: some other stuff, but I got some stuff that people

675
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 1: don't even think of when when hunting antlers, and I

676
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: could save it. If it's the wrong timing, well, I

677
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 1: hate you. I hate to have a cliffhanger here. Now,

678
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: I'm really intrigued. Let's let's hear that now, and then

679
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: I've got a million other questions now that I'm thinking

680
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 1: of as your touch answer of these things. But let's

681
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: hear the the not so commonly thought of antler tips.

682
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: I have found probably more antlers doing this than especially farms,

683
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: were not too many people mess around the ponds. There's

684
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 1: years where it's not so wet, and there's not so

685
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: much snow like there is right now. So so water

686
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 1: even in the winter is not very available. And some

687
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: of the southern regions also it's it's never available. And

688
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: if you have a year of drought um ponds, there's

689
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 1: antlers laying in ponds. If those ponds have never been dry,

690
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 1: they've never gone dry, and no one's ever done this.

691
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: You may have a wealth of antlers in your pond.

692
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:54,800
Speaker 1: And what I what I do is I take a

693
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 1: long pole, very long pole depending on the size of

694
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 1: the pond, with a rake head on the end of it,

695
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 1: and UH dragged. In other words, I reached as far

696
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 1: as I could reach into the pond, and then I

697
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 1: dragged back towards the shore. And when you feel on

698
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 1: the end of that rake you feel a little bink bink,

699
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: you know you have an antler on the other end.

700
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: And I and I drag them out and and it's

701
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: kind of cool because you know, like I bought, uh,

702
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: I bought a new farm to see it's it's been

703
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: three seasons now. And the first thing I did was

704
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: dragged the ponds. And I didn't find that many these ponds,

705
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 1: some of them dried up, but I found fifteen antlers

706
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: by dragging ponds um. And the cool thing about it,

707
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: there's nothing eating those antlers. There's nothing eating them, and

708
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: the water actually preserves them. They'll there'll be a different color.

709
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 1: There'll be a little little shade of an arm of

710
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 1: a brownish like not a dark brown, but but kind

711
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 1: of a medium brown color from being underwater if they've

712
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: been there for a long time. But that the antlers

713
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 1: still perfectly intact. Nothing they don't. I don'tlike an antler

714
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 1: that's been laying now, you know, like here and in

715
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 1: the South, squirrels eat antlers, might seat antlers, they eat

716
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: them very quickly. In the West where they don't have

717
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:11,240
Speaker 1: so many squirrels, in some cases no squirrels, and antler

718
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 1: may lay there for years without being touched. But then

719
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: antler will it will dry out, you know, it'll kind

720
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 1: of bleach out and and and when you pick it

721
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: up there won't weigh anything. But the ones that you

722
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 1: pull out of the ponds, they they'll be perfect, you know,

723
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,800
Speaker 1: I mean that they'll they'll they're they're still have the

724
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: same amount of meryl. They're solid, you know. So that

725
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: that's something that I know a lot of people haven't

726
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 1: have have not done. I mean, I'm probably the only

727
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 1: one crazy enough to try it. You know, you take

728
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 1: the cake for the craziest most unique shed hunting tip

729
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: I've ever heard. Yeah. Now, now, probably now when we

730
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: when we acquire a farm, i won't be able to

731
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 1: find antlers because I'll let it out of the bag,

732
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 1: you know, because you guys have so many listeners. They're

733
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 1: definitely gonna at least I'll be trying it, you know.

734
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: And I'll mention this to as well. Um, agricultural areas

735
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 1: that have been tiled um, and you know, they're they're like, um,

736
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: they're like little levees across your you know, to to

737
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 1: to help your drainage on the fields. And uh, those

738
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: little levees provide wind breaks and and and bucks uh

739
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: dolls as well, those snug right up to them. If

740
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 1: if they in other words, if that that serves as

741
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: a wind break on a west or northerly wind as

742
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 1: long as they're still on the south side of that

743
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 1: wind break. Uh, it's it's uh, it's a really hot

744
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: spot as well, because it's and the reason I say that,

745
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: if if I was this, if I was disciplined enough

746
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: and had the time to go up and down each

747
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 1: stubble corn roll, I would find the same number of

748
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,399
Speaker 1: I would find more antler's probably, But what I try

749
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: to do is hit the hottest spots as fast as

750
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: I can, and uh so I if it's an open field,

751
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 1: I key on those, um those tile various. Uh. That

752
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 1: serves as a wind break. The other thing is that's

753
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: that's hot is our fences, those internal fences they go

754
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: through the woods, especially the ones that you see. The

755
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: top strand is beat down from so many deer. They

756
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: jump it and jump it and jump it and jump it.

757
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 1: Uh that's a that's a prime place for them to

758
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 1: drop antlers. I found several over the years at fence

759
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: crossings as well. Yeah, that's I know. Uh. Dallas and

760
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 1: I went shed hunting, like I mentioned together last year

761
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 1: and he found one of the fence crossing My right, Dallas,

762
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: I think you did yep right right in that pinch point.

763
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I think, Um, that makes a lot of sense. Right,

764
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: Buck jumps over the jumps over the fence and his

765
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: antlers are about to go and has that hard impact

766
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: on the other side. Pop there they go. So yeah, yeah, probably,

767
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: I mean it does. It does apply to ditches and

768
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 1: creeks and different crossings like that too. Um. I've I've

769
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: found that to be the case. So that's awesome. UM.

770
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: Are there any any other bizarre shed hunting tips that

771
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,240
Speaker 1: you've got, dad? You know, No, no, not not too bizarre.

772
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: I've never used um. You know a lot of guys

773
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: talk about these, um these cages uh that they put

774
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: their their they're they're they're made to catch andler's um

775
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 1: when when the bucks bend into uh to bend into

776
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 1: to eat corn or something, they get them in those

777
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: those fences. UM, forget what they call them. I'm not sure,

778
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: but they They've never used them because I'm a little

779
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: it bothers me a little bit that they may become

780
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: tangled to the point where they can't get out. I

781
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're in other words, that the

782
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: antler is not ready to break, you know. But I've

783
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 1: never used that, and you know, I don't really have

784
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,760
Speaker 1: any I'm thinking about it now, and that that's probably

785
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: the only really bizarre uh, the one thing I have done,

786
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 1: and um, that that is bizarre, but it has not

787
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: served uh, it has not served me really well. I

788
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: found one antler doing this is in years when when

789
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: the creeks are frozen or whatever the water sources is,

790
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 1: that's frozen and the snow has going. In other words,

791
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 1: the pond is still frozen, but there's not a lot

792
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: of a lot of places to drink anywhere, and there's

793
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,919
Speaker 1: just not a lot of not an abundance of water.

794
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 1: Is uh. I have broken holes into um into creeks

795
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 1: at crossings where it's just slows them down, makes them

796
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 1: hang around a little longer, makes them go to it.

797
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: And over the years I found one or two antlers

798
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 1: doing this, But I still believe in it. You know,

799
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 1: it's just got to be the right conditions. We're The

800
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: reason that the conditions are so important is because normally,

801
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: if your ponds are frozen, there's access to moisture everywhere.

802
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: But there are some years that the ponds are still

803
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 1: frozen and everything else is is kind of drying up.

804
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's sunny out and and when you

805
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: can bust that pond and as soon as they know,

806
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 1: it's just like it's crazy. Like the way the deer

807
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: are is is so neat because you could bust a

808
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 1: hole in that in that pond and then in three

809
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,320
Speaker 1: days there's a million tracks there. How they figured it

810
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: out so fast is amazing, you know it. But the

811
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: key is is is to bust the ice in those

812
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: places where there is high traffic. Wow, makes sense. Um,

813
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 1: it makes a lot of sense really now, I know Dallas,

814
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,720
Speaker 1: I know you had a question related to some different

815
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: things you can do on your own property, different than

816
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,439
Speaker 1: you know, water sources. But did you have a question

817
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: for for Dan related to things like that. Yeah, I

818
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 1: don't own my own property. So yeah, there are fields,

819
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 1: but they're not technically food plots. I mean we I don't.

820
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 1: They don't keep the corn in or the beans in

821
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: for the deer. Their their egg fields. But what I

822
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 1: do do is I dump. I spend probably around three

823
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 1: dollars a year dumping a giant pile of corn um,

824
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 1: then just kind of spread it out in a particular area,

825
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 1: put trail camera over top of it in order to

826
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: you know, maybe hold here in that area. Is that

827
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 1: something that you would recommend to somebody. Is that something

828
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 1: that that you do yourself per se to to kind

829
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: of concentrate deer? Yeah? I have, I have done that.

830
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: The one thing that I caution is make sure that

831
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 1: it's it's okay with the state like here in Illinois,

832
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,919
Speaker 1: we we can't. We can't dump any corn. We can't

833
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 1: even put a mineral block or salt out there. Nothing

834
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: that that would um cause dear to to congregate in

835
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: an area where they might they might share fisis, saliva fluids,

836
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,240
Speaker 1: body fluids, or anything else because of the chronic waste disease.

837
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 1: So so we can't do it in So Wisconsin is

838
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: another state you can't do it, and there may be

839
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: other states, but I would I would caution that. But yeah,

840
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 1: any the key is anywhere that those deer during the

841
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: period that they're gonna drop antlers spend the greatest amount

842
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 1: of time obviously increases the chances if you finding an

843
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: antler there. So you know, tying into that, then let's say, right,

844
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 1: we just talked about dance case. He doesn't own the property,

845
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: so the best he can do is he can put

846
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 1: some supplemental feet out or some corn. Now, what if

847
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 1: you do own a property, what would you recommend someone

848
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 1: do if they own property where they have access to

849
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 1: property that they're allowed to manipulate from a habitat standpoint,

850
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 1: what would you do to make the best possible property

851
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: for shed hunting? Yeah, late season crops um. You know, um,

852
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 1: if if you if you still in other words, if

853
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: you plan enough turnips, uh radishes, those they they when

854
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: they after the first second freeze, they turned into a

855
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: sugary syrup and they'll last straight into the winter. You know,

856
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 1: they're still very very relevant right now. Uh So, so

857
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: that would be a great food source. Win Or wheat

858
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 1: and win or rye are both excellent for for the

859
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 1: late season. Um, those those deer. In fact, I have

860
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 1: a winner um winter wheat and rye field that's that's

861
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: under the snow. Now. Visited that field the other day

862
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:50,800
Speaker 1: to pull some some SD cards from a cameras and

863
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: uh they just about pauled that field out to get

864
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: to the winter wheat and winter rye. So so, my, my,

865
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 1: when we go to the shed rally, what I'm gonna

866
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: do is put some people on those food sources and

867
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 1: around those food sources, because what will happen is those

868
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 1: animals will bed as closely to that food source as possible.

869
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 1: They're burning up a lot of a lot of calories

870
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 1: trying to look for food, so as soon as they

871
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: find food, they're gonna bed right on top of it.

872
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 1: You know, late season beans, if you've got beans that

873
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: you left standing, if you're if you're fortunate enough that

874
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: you could plant, depends a lot of course on the

875
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: on the on the deer population. Like here, Um, I

876
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 1: don't have an excess of deer, but it's a lot

877
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: I've got like, uh, my area probably sixty seventy deer

878
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 1: per square mile, which is is pretty much. And uh

879
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 1: where I used to be in an area that was

880
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: over a hundred deer per square mile. So what I'm

881
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 1: getting In some places you can get away with five

882
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: acres of beans. In some places you may need to

883
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: have fifty acres of beans, you know. But if you're

884
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 1: you're fortunate enough to have standing beans, um, right now

885
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 1: in February and March, holy how, you will have every

886
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: deer in the county in there until that the beans

887
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:06,359
Speaker 1: are gone. It's it's and that's where the antlers will

888
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 1: because they'll they will literally eat the beans and then

889
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 1: lay in the beans. And then they'll get up and

890
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 1: they'll eat the beans and they'll lay in the beans.

891
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 1: They won't they won't venture too far. Yeah, we've got

892
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 1: a standing bean field on a neighboring property near one

893
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 1: of my places in Ohio that I'm really excited to

894
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,959
Speaker 1: shed hunt around because, like you said, that really pulls

895
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 1: them in now. Oh yeah, guys, hey, guys, if you

896
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 1: if you don't mind me chiming in on the inverse

897
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: of of dance point there. I was turkey hunting last

898
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: year in Florida on probably around March eighte and uh,

899
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: I was. I was in your stereotypical Florida Planet Pines area.

900
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 1: I walked an old planet pine logging road. I ended

901
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 1: up killing a turkey in a in about a one

902
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: acre food plot that was probably the first food plot

903
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,280
Speaker 1: on the entire property to green up in the spring.

904
00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 1: And uh, and found three shed antlers within side of

905
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 1: of the turkey when I when I when I end

906
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 1: up harvesting him in the food plot. So in the South,

907
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 1: the inverse maybe be true is is uh, it's where

908
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 1: you you would want to plant food sources that uh

909
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: in the Midwest, that that our prime in winter and

910
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 1: once everything gets cold in the South, you may find

911
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 1: more sheds around your first fields to green up in

912
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 1: the spring. So I just want to make that point. Yeah,

913
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 1: that's a great point, really interesting. I've I've found one

914
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: shed while turkey hunting too. That seems to be a

915
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: time that lots if you're not actually out there looking

916
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 1: for sheds, that does seem to be a good time

917
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: to accidentally find them, um, you know, as they're not

918
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: quite chewed up by that point. Sometimes two for a

919
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 1: guy for a guy that doesn't own property. Again, and

920
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 1: you can't plant food plots. You've touched on some of

921
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 1: the different types of agg that are you know, high

922
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 1: highly productive shed hunting spots. But other than crop fields,

923
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: is there any natural food sources that you guys have

924
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 1: seen to be you know, good spots to check for

925
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 1: for sheds. Yeah, it depends on where where you are.

926
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 1: You know. Mean, we have had years where we we

927
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,399
Speaker 1: have an abundance of acorns and and uh. And that's

928
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: a that's great if you could get out there in

929
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: the moaks and and uh, because that's that's where the

930
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 1: deer be. But the deer you know what, what's what's

931
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 1: what's kind of cool if you're the guy with the

932
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: food is that if there is food in the area,

933
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 1: and that area could be that area could be four

934
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 1: miles in the winter, Um, you may lose your deer

935
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: on In other words, if you're leasing a piece of property.

936
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: You're you you only have access to this one piece

937
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 1: of property. And and two miles down the road a

938
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 1: guy left someone left standing corn or someone has a

939
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: winter wheat a winter wheat field. Uh that you may

940
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 1: lose that population during that period. In other words, they'll

941
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 1: suck it right off your property. I give an example

942
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: that was was pretty neat is Uh. I had a

943
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 1: farm on Dutch Creek and I really didn't have that

944
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 1: that year. I didn't have any late seasoned food. I

945
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 1: didn't have anything to carry them into the ter. But um,

946
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think probably four miles down the

947
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 1: road off of Highway nine, this guy left man a

948
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 1: bunch of corn standing, and um, I don't yeah, part

949
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 1: of it was standing and part of it he bush hogged.

950
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 1: So there was an abundance of corn on the ground,

951
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 1: and there was abundance of corn standing, and people would

952
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 1: slow down and just about stop because there was so

953
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: many deer in that field. So I remember four nights

954
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 1: in a row I went down there to to glass

955
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: the deer in that field because there was so many

956
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,760
Speaker 1: deer that they could not have come from the immediate

957
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 1: immediate area and I had there was there was two deer.

958
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 1: Two bucks. This was in Um, this was about the

959
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 1: third week of February. Two bucks that were from my

960
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 1: property that live on me four miles away in their

961
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 1: eating corn. So so they literally pulled everything out of

962
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,879
Speaker 1: off of everybody by leaving that standing corn. I don't

963
00:48:57,880 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 1: know why they left it. Maybe it was some insurance,

964
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 1: you know. I don't know, but uh, that's something that's

965
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 1: um that you face if you don't have food, if

966
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 1: you don't have a food source, UM, you may lose

967
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 1: those deer during the late season, but during the pole season.

968
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: I'll tell you something that that I learned from Dan

969
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: when I when I started a white tailed properties, uh,

970
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 1: was was we see so many deer next to the highways,

971
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 1: um at the end of at this time of year.

972
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 1: And uh and uh it's fascinating for for to learn

973
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 1: from a guy like Dan who's lived out here in

974
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 1: the Pike County Big Buck area of Illinois for five years,

975
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 1: is is those deer the first thing they're gonna eat

976
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 1: once crops are harvested are the most secluded fields. They're

977
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: gonna stay as secluded as possible. And then when their

978
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 1: bellies driving them towards the roads because that's all the

979
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,839
Speaker 1: food that's left. Uh, that's when you're gonna start seeing

980
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:53,760
Speaker 1: DearS this time of year, when there's the least amount

981
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 1: of food possible, they have to come out and feed

982
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 1: in those bigger crop fields that might be right next

983
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,240
Speaker 1: to a highway or inner an interstate, and so naturally

984
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 1: that's where deer spending a lot of time this time

985
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:06,240
Speaker 1: of year. You may not have to find secluded fields

986
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 1: to find shed antlers. It may be the field that's

987
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:13,800
Speaker 1: right off the highway. It's an interesting point, makes sense thought. Okay,

988
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:18,879
Speaker 1: So now that we've talked about where to find these antlers, Dan,

989
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 1: is there is there any tips to finding the antlers

990
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:25,359
Speaker 1: that you'd like to maybe go over with us? Yeah,

991
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:28,959
Speaker 1: I guess I'll tell you what what's what's what works

992
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 1: for me when I uh, one of my main pieces

993
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 1: of equipment, one that I have with me is a

994
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:40,840
Speaker 1: good pair of binoculars. Otherwise you spend your time walking

995
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 1: up to two branches and twigs that are in the

996
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 1: ground poking up looking like our corn stalks that look

997
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 1: like antlers. So that will save you a lot of

998
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:50,320
Speaker 1: time with the with the vinyls I tell you. For

999
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 1: for I think for every ten that I think is

1000
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 1: an antler. One of them is maybe an antler, you

1001
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 1: know what I mean. There's there's a lot of stuff

1002
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 1: that looks like antlers, and vinyls will help you a lot.

1003
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 1: But here's another something that that works for me. Maybe

1004
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,800
Speaker 1: it's my eyes. Uh, and it may not work for

1005
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 1: the next person. But I take a pair of shooting glasses,

1006
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 1: you know, those amber shooting glasses. Um. I take a

1007
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 1: pair of amber shooting glasses. When I'm walking around, whether

1008
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 1: it's cloudy or even bright, the antlers just pop a

1009
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 1: lot more for me. I can see them so much

1010
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 1: better with those um a para shooting glasses. UM that

1011
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 1: that those are two tips that that I would And

1012
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 1: of course uh, I take a lot of people take

1013
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 1: a backpack. In the backpack, I stock it with a

1014
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 1: lot of stuff, including food, first aid, totle, the trees,

1015
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,399
Speaker 1: about all kinds of stuff to to uh to last

1016
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 1: the day. And there's usually not enough room in that

1017
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 1: pack for my antlers. So I take um, I take

1018
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 1: about ten ft of it's about ten a rope um

1019
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 1: watered up put in my pack. And as the day

1020
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: goes on and my pack is full of antlers, I

1021
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 1: will tie those antlers. I tie an antler and then

1022
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:00,280
Speaker 1: I I go a few inches and tie the next antler,

1023
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,320
Speaker 1: go a few inches, tie the next handler, and pretty

1024
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 1: soon I'm wearing antlers all over me, but I'm able

1025
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 1: to carry them and keep going. You know, That's that's

1026
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 1: a great, a great idea. I hope I have the

1027
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 1: issue of finding enough antlers at any of the time

1028
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 1: in the my backpack this year, or you could just

1029
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 1: you know, find one and make a necklace out of him.

1030
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 1: That might be more likely for the way my sheds

1031
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 1: plans have gone recently. Um So you mentioned binocular. You

1032
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 1: mentioned binocular, is a backpack, um rope? Any other gear

1033
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 1: or items you would say that a shed hunter should

1034
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 1: bring with them? Yeah, no, I nothing comes to mind

1035
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 1: other than those amber glasses. They they that shade of

1036
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 1: amber makes them pop. That's just that's just me maybe,

1037
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,359
Speaker 1: But that's that's all that that comes to mind. I'm

1038
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 1: probably forgetting stuff, but that's those are the essentials to me. Yeah,

1039
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 1: that's a good one. I like the glasses idea. I've

1040
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 1: tried sunglasses, just regular sunglasses, like polarized glasses, and I

1041
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,399
Speaker 1: feel like that helps me a little bit too. Um

1042
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 1: but it makes a lot of sense. Something you you

1043
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,359
Speaker 1: you touched on briefly, but I'll just emphasize it again.

1044
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 1: Make sure you bring extra toilet paper just in case everyone,

1045
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 1: because you don't want to shed hunting plant or shed

1046
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:10,839
Speaker 1: hunting trips shortened because of nature calling. So we'll walk

1047
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 1: out of the timber with just one sleeve on your

1048
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 1: T shirt. You never you never want to have shed

1049
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 1: rally and that way. UM. So, speaking of something that

1050
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:26,319
Speaker 1: we've kind of mentioned here briefly, UM, the conditions right

1051
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 1: now in many states are still snowy. UM. Where I'm

1052
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 1: supposed to be going this weekend, they're predicting possibly seven

1053
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 1: to twelve inches of snow tonight. UM. Hopefully that doesn't happen. Um,

1054
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: But do you have any advice for Hey, if you're

1055
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:41,800
Speaker 1: out there there is still snow, maybe it's two inches

1056
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 1: five inches. Um. Any advice for someone who wants to

1057
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:48,840
Speaker 1: get out shed hunting but there's still snow? Go home? No,

1058
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding it. Uh, I don't. If I can't

1059
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 1: see at least grass, you know, just the stubble, brown grass,

1060
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 1: I don't go. It's just too difficult. I get I

1061
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 1: get white out, you know, like if you look at

1062
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 1: that snow long enough and then you look away. All

1063
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 1: you see is white dots. You know. It's it's tough

1064
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 1: for me to find them in the snow. It's it's

1065
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 1: uh so, I don't know that I have advice, and

1066
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 1: I'm I would put off that trip if there's three

1067
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 1: inches on the ground, um, just because I want to

1068
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:23,359
Speaker 1: be as productive as possible when I culmb that area. Yeah.

1069
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 1: It definitely does make things a lot more difficult. Um.

1070
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 1: Oh man, it's it's brutal. Um. Yeah. You know a

1071
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 1: lot of the antlers I find I find, I find

1072
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 1: from a hundred yards away, you know. But and you

1073
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 1: lose that when you when there's snow on the ground.

1074
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 1: If I spend as much time and glass and as

1075
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 1: I do walking, yeah, for for whatever it's worth for

1076
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 1: the guy or girl. If you know, let's say your

1077
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 1: only time you can go shed hunting is this weekend

1078
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 1: or whatever it would be, and you do have snow,

1079
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:51,879
Speaker 1: but you still want to get out there. I would

1080
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 1: say there is a little bit of a silver lining. Um.

1081
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:56,359
Speaker 1: You know, if it's only your time, go out there

1082
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 1: and give it your best. And two things that seem

1083
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 1: to help me is that when there is snow right

1084
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 1: you can very very clearly see where the deer have

1085
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:06,359
Speaker 1: been traveling, where they've been betting, and where they've been eating.

1086
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:08,800
Speaker 1: So like it's it's obvious you see a bed in

1087
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:10,919
Speaker 1: the snow, obviously that's where a deer has been betted.

1088
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 1: So it is a little bit easier to go right

1089
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:14,359
Speaker 1: to a bed. And so what I'll do if I'm

1090
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 1: stuck out there in the snow, I'll just check the beds,

1091
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 1: like literally go to each individual bed and check every

1092
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: one of those, and lots of times that's melted down.

1093
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 1: And so if there is by chance, you know, a

1094
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 1: shed there and that's melted down the bed, you've got

1095
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,760
Speaker 1: a chance to find those um And then lots of times,

1096
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 1: you know, on a property where there's you know, six

1097
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 1: or seven or of snow, those deer will follow. All

1098
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:37,280
Speaker 1: the deer in that area will follow a single trail

1099
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 1: to make it easier for them to go back and

1100
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 1: forth between spots. And so I have found, you know,

1101
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 1: these highways essentially that every deer has taken. Sometimes you

1102
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 1: can find an antler on those that you can still

1103
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 1: see because the trail is beaten down so far that

1104
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 1: the antlers lying right there down the trail. Um, so

1105
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 1: that's good stuff. More I'll mention this is if if

1106
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 1: that's the case, and there's there's three inches, four inches

1107
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 1: whatever it is the snow where there is not snow,

1108
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 1: there's not snow there because of two reasons of course,

1109
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 1: like you mentioned trails or beds, or because it receives

1110
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 1: a good dose of sun throughout the day. And if

1111
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 1: that's the case, then you'll find those souths facing slopes

1112
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 1: very quickly, you know. Um, it won't be blocked by

1113
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 1: by trees. You'll you'll find the best places very quickly.

1114
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 1: So that that would be you'll you'll miss a lot

1115
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 1: of stuff, no question. But it's like you say, if

1116
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 1: that's the only time you could go, it may save

1117
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 1: you a lot of time and you still would find

1118
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 1: a fair amount of antlers. Yeah. And another thing I

1119
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 1: just thought of, as you know, uh, it will help you,

1120
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 1: will help you in future years, right if you can

1121
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 1: identify those areas that, like you said, are getting the

1122
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,720
Speaker 1: warmest and melting out the fastest, or those second beds

1123
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 1: or bedding areas feeding areas. Once you notice those spots

1124
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:53,800
Speaker 1: now in the sun or in the snow, in future

1125
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 1: years or later in the year when you get that

1126
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 1: snow melted out, Now you know exactly where to head

1127
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 1: back to um and check those hot spot first, like

1128
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 1: you mentioned, absolutely, you know that's one reason. That's another

1129
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:06,799
Speaker 1: thing just to your point that I love about shed

1130
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 1: hunting is while I'm shed hunting, I almost spend as

1131
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:12,319
Speaker 1: much time looking up at trees about where I'm gonna

1132
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 1: put us tree stand this next year, and looking at

1133
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 1: at apparent funnel situations that I didn't quite see during

1134
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 1: the season. You know, there's a lot of things you

1135
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 1: learn as you go through the woods, and that's one

1136
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 1: of them. Like like like you say, you'll learn a

1137
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 1: lot about where the deer probably do spend the greatest

1138
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 1: amount of time during the day. So we've talked now,

1139
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 1: we've talked about you know, where we look um how

1140
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 1: to find them. Now the next question is what alterations

1141
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 1: maybe I know you talked a little bit about hinge cutting,

1142
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 1: but what what improvements can we can we make to

1143
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 1: the property to hold the deer there while they're dropping

1144
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 1: their antlers. Yeah, that's cool that you just bounced back

1145
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 1: to hinge cutting, because we just it's a lot of

1146
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 1: hinge cutting this this past week. Uh, and and two

1147
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 1: things that I that I've done to hold dear well.

1148
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 1: One one was to kill dear and one was to

1149
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 1: hold dear and h we we basically built a giant

1150
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 1: bedding area by hinging trees over each other and kind

1151
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 1: of like a cardboard, like like a garage without the sides.

1152
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 1: These deer are able to get in out of the

1153
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 1: weather and get up underneath all these trees. And what

1154
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 1: happens is when your hinge cut, of course, is is

1155
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 1: that uh, those trees that normally block the sunlight, um,

1156
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 1: because they're up in the air, now their hens to

1157
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 1: the ground, so there's more there's more sunlight on the

1158
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 1: the actual forest floor. So that second story of rush

1159
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 1: comes up, that second story of of briars and vines

1160
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 1: and everything. It's just thick and nasty, but optimum, optimum bedding.

1161
00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 1: So when you increase the amount of of land surface

1162
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 1: that that that provides for holding deer, you can hold

1163
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 1: obviously more dear. Um. So so hinge cutting is awesome

1164
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 1: for the bending areas, but it's also great um. There's

1165
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:14,439
Speaker 1: there's a there's a place that called the mouse Trap

1166
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 1: this last season, and a hinge cut behind my stand

1167
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 1: from the back of my my tree all the way

1168
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 1: to the bluff. Uh. In other words, so that they'd

1169
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 1: have to fly to get around behind me, because the

1170
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 1: bluff drops a hundred feet. And so what I learned

1171
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 1: during the season was that I didn't do as good

1172
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 1: a job as I thought there was. There was a

1173
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 1: few holes that they were still able to get through.

1174
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 1: The majority of the deer passed in front of me,

1175
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 1: but there was still a few places behind me that

1176
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 1: they went through. So so I hinged a few more

1177
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 1: trees and and stuff some of the holes with some

1178
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 1: trees that I cut from somewhere else, you know. So, um,

1179
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 1: I tightened up those spots. But um, I think the

1180
00:59:57,120 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 1: biggest thing to to to hold deer is simply ride

1181
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 1: more bedding, create more also feathering, you know when you

1182
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 1: feather the edges. Um. What's cool is is I dropped

1183
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 1: those trees back into the timber, and it creates more

1184
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 1: more sunlight, allows more sunlight. Uh, so that those blackberries

1185
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 1: grow up in those those those raspberry vines grow up,

1186
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 1: and it's just a tangled mess of growth, but it

1187
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 1: provides optimum habitat for holding deer. Um. So you know,

1188
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 1: the park like look is great. And and and be

1189
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 1: honest with you, we sell a lot of land that

1190
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 1: people they just love the way it looks like a

1191
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 1: park because it's wide open and you see the big

1192
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 1: trees and all. Uh. There's got to be a certain

1193
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 1: amount of a certain amount of an abbiance of of

1194
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 1: of pretty sometimes. But the most uh, the best habitat

1195
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 1: for holding the deer sometimes is the is the nastiest,

1196
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 1: you know, the vines in the in the in the

1197
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 1: the tree tops laying down on top of it one another.

1198
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 1: And you know that that's all really good stuff. You know.

1199
01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 1: That's another thing I did not mention is if you

1200
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 1: walk in through the woods, um, and you and there

1201
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 1: is a tree that's laying down. Uh, that's a good

1202
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 1: place to look is around that tree that's laying down,

1203
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 1: because it's a natural place for the tier to snug

1204
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 1: up on a cold day, underneath all the limbs that

1205
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 1: are naturally laying there. Um. But yes, that's to me,

1206
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 1: that's the best thing you could do this time of

1207
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 1: year because that and frost seed and frost seed my

1208
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:24,880
Speaker 1: food plots, and that's a that's a great thing to

1209
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 1: do this time of year. And hinge cut those are

1210
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 1: to me the two best things you could do on

1211
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 1: your property to ensure that you you you hold the

1212
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 1: greatest number of deer. So you you talked about you know,

1213
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 1: feathering um some of your edges, which for people who

1214
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 1: aren't familiar, that's you know, creating essentially a transition cover

1215
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 1: from like a field towards your timber. And like you mentioned,

1216
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 1: it gets thick and nasty. And I found the same

1217
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 1: thing to be the case right where lots of times

1218
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:51,920
Speaker 1: where you're looking for those sheds are on those betting

1219
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 1: areas that are nasty with vines and thorns and everything

1220
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 1: like that. And it made me think about all the

1221
01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 1: times I get just tore up with prickers. I've always

1222
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 1: just absolutely carved up after shed hunting. And because of that,

1223
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 1: I wear specific clothing items when I go shed hunting

1224
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:10,439
Speaker 1: to try to protect against that. And it made me wonder,

1225
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 1: is there anything special that you wear, Dan when you

1226
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 1: go out shed hunting. Do you have like a a

1227
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 1: well thought through system for what to wear when you

1228
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 1: go out looking for antler's? I don't mark, I I

1229
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 1: I know what the best thing to wear, and that's uh,

1230
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 1: that's the oh what do you call that material? Like

1231
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 1: the the upland game bird hunters use the canvas that

1232
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 1: like like it's kind of like a canvas almost like

1233
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 1: like a polyester canvas that the cocka birds and the

1234
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 1: hitchhikers and all that stuff doesn't stick to. That would

1235
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 1: be smart. And and but I do wear my car hearts.

1236
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:46,160
Speaker 1: I wear my car hard jacket and car haart pants,

1237
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 1: and those vines do not tear me up. Something stick

1238
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 1: to it, but they don't. They don't tear mine. And

1239
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 1: in other words, I could just ripped through it and

1240
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 1: not worry about a thorn penetrating my clothing. Car heart

1241
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 1: makes some tough stuff. And of course if I'm going

1242
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 1: through that stuff, I'm wearing gloves. I always have either

1243
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 1: gloves on or in my pocket. I take them on

1244
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 1: and off as as a day progresses. Same thing like

1245
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 1: like if I'm walking a lot um this weekend, it's

1246
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 1: gonna probably be a little bit cold. I walk in up,

1247
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:17,600
Speaker 1: I get hot. That means my my sweater hat comes off,

1248
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 1: it goes into my pocket. I walk some more and

1249
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 1: put it back on, staying with my gloves. They're always

1250
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 1: coming off and on. But when I go through I

1251
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 1: go through those viny areas that a lot of stuff

1252
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 1: would tear you up. I have the gloves on for sure. Yeah,

1253
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 1: that's smart. I've gone on way too many shedding trips

1254
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 1: without gloves and just ended up looking like scratched my

1255
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 1: cat up and down my hands. Oh yeah, I can

1256
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 1: tell you stories, man. I've had my ear almost ripped

1257
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:43,960
Speaker 1: off by like you know, you go pushing through and

1258
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:48,440
Speaker 1: also all of them hooked uh vindes with a hooked

1259
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 1: type of a thorn grabs the inside of your ear

1260
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 1: and jerks you in a circle. You know. No, that's

1261
01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 1: another good reason to wear some kind of glasses, whether

1262
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:01,480
Speaker 1: it be the ones you wear or sunglasses or something.

1263
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 1: Because I've had a couple of times where I almost

1264
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:05,440
Speaker 1: got popped in the eyeball with a thorn with a

1265
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 1: branch coming back. That's another good reason wear some kind

1266
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:12,920
Speaker 1: of eyewear. Absolutely absolutely So. You mentioned you wear the

1267
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 1: car Hearts, and that's something I found worse really well

1268
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 1: too for me that I wear some car Heart pants

1269
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:20,440
Speaker 1: out there and that helps a lot in Dan or Dallas. Sorry, Um,

1270
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 1: you wear was arborware pants? Is that right? Yeah? We're

1271
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:28,040
Speaker 1: um a brain of pants called Arborware. It's actually made

1272
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 1: for um arborists. You know, climbing in the trades, really heavy,

1273
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:34,960
Speaker 1: really heavy duty material and that. Yeah, I would say

1274
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:36,920
Speaker 1: it's similar to a car hard type of pants, but

1275
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 1: it's uh, it's designed to get beat up. Yeah, yeah,

1276
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 1: I think that's smart. I've I've made the mistake of

1277
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:46,480
Speaker 1: sometimes forgetting that and just wearing regular thin jeans and

1278
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 1: I'll just get again, lots and lots of thorns carved

1279
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:52,400
Speaker 1: up on my thighs and everything. That's that can take

1280
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:55,959
Speaker 1: your excitement of a day shed hunting really quickly. So yeah,

1281
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 1: so I've got We've got just a couple of really

1282
01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 1: quick sort of random quite and then we'll let you

1283
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:03,000
Speaker 1: guys go because I appreciate the time when we're coming

1284
01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 1: up here on on that time limit. So if you

1285
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 1: could pick anywhere to hunt, regardless of property were regardless

1286
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 1: of where you own property, if there was one state

1287
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 1: that you would choose to spend your time shed hunting, Um, Dan,

1288
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 1: where would that be? Well, you know that's a that's

1289
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:26,920
Speaker 1: a two sided question. I mean where where I wanted

1290
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 1: to find, where I thought i'd find the most sheds

1291
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:33,120
Speaker 1: would probably be Kansas. Um. The reason I say that

1292
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:35,720
Speaker 1: is they do have a very good population A deer,

1293
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 1: and they do not have the rodents that eat the

1294
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:41,280
Speaker 1: antlers so quickly. An antler could lay out there for

1295
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 1: weeks and weeks and weeks and weeks, you know what

1296
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:48,520
Speaker 1: I mean. So so in that regard, I would say Kansas. Um,

1297
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 1: but me like, I mean, that's a general a general answer.

1298
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 1: Kansas A good property in Kansas, you probably hope find

1299
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 1: more antlers than about anywhere else. But if um, if

1300
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 1: you know the property like I do my property, if

1301
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 1: you have a place like that, um, it probably doesn't

1302
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 1: matter much. Word it is like for me obviously be

1303
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 1: Illinois because I have a really good idea of what's there,

1304
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:15,960
Speaker 1: and and it would mean the most to me, uh,

1305
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:19,959
Speaker 1: to your point earlier that the antlers I I find

1306
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 1: will mean a lot to mean one I could I

1307
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:25,200
Speaker 1: could journal and I could monitor the uh an animal

1308
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:27,760
Speaker 1: all my property, all the animals that live on my property.

1309
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 1: I want to know who they are and what they're

1310
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:32,000
Speaker 1: what they do year in, year out, and and and

1311
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:36,640
Speaker 1: also it'll let me know those that survived, uh, especially

1312
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 1: if I'm hunting a big one. And so I would

1313
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:44,160
Speaker 1: say Illinois for me. Okay, that was that was That

1314
01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 1: was a long answer to to what should have been

1315
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:49,920
Speaker 1: a short answer. No, we like long We like long

1316
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:52,800
Speaker 1: winded answers. That keeps things that interesting much better than

1317
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:58,560
Speaker 1: the guy that says Kansas. Yeah, that's it. So I

1318
01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:00,560
Speaker 1: love it. Um, how about you else? Do you have

1319
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:02,960
Speaker 1: a final question for Michael or Dan before we wrap

1320
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:06,480
Speaker 1: things up? Well, I think I'll direct my my question

1321
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:09,440
Speaker 1: to Michael in regards to the shed rally. Um. And

1322
01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 1: I know it's uh, it's the creation of it is

1323
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 1: kind of you know, getting more people involved with the outdoors.

1324
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 1: Do you have I have a I have a daughter

1325
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:23,040
Speaker 1: and she she's right now, she's too um and she

1326
01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 1: may be a little bit young to take on these

1327
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 1: uh you know some of these shed rally events for

1328
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:32,720
Speaker 1: like a longer day. What would you want to share

1329
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 1: with somebody who is trying to get their their kid?

1330
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 1: Is there is there anything that like a parent or

1331
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:45,240
Speaker 1: somebody should do to maybe show some interest in that? Well,

1332
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 1: you might you might be asking the wrong guy in

1333
01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 1: that regardless because I am not a parent yet I

1334
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 1: hope to be one day. Um, but I can tell

1335
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 1: you that, uh that one of the you know what,

1336
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:58,240
Speaker 1: we we had several photos, uh, you know, the beauty

1337
01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:00,200
Speaker 1: of shed rallies. We got to see everything. Last year,

1338
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:02,680
Speaker 1: we kind of got to see who who who Who

1339
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 1: are the shed ralliers, Like who are the who are

1340
01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:05,920
Speaker 1: the people that are going to do this? And so

1341
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:09,120
Speaker 1: the hashtag let's us see everything, And there were there

1342
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:12,400
Speaker 1: were a bunch of photos uploaded last year of parents

1343
01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:15,960
Speaker 1: with little kids that wore the the you you guys

1344
01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:17,960
Speaker 1: tell me if they have an official name, but they're

1345
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:20,840
Speaker 1: the harnesses that carry babies. You either wear them on

1346
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 1: your chest or you wear them on your back. And

1347
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 1: and I can tell you from my perspective, uh you know,

1348
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 1: to me, a shed hunt is a great way to

1349
01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:31,240
Speaker 1: just get out and walk and get out and and

1350
01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:33,200
Speaker 1: it's the time of year when you've kind of been

1351
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:35,720
Speaker 1: been caged up all winter, if you're like us in

1352
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:38,240
Speaker 1: the Midwest where you know, we've we've been through three

1353
01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:40,320
Speaker 1: or four months of pretty hard winter. It's a great

1354
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:43,080
Speaker 1: time to get outside walk and hopefully it's gonna be

1355
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 1: warm enough on Saturday during the shed rally to get

1356
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:48,479
Speaker 1: out and take a walk. And uh, you know, when

1357
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:50,400
Speaker 1: you're a kid, I don't know when I when I

1358
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 1: was a kid, you could have given me a stick

1359
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:53,600
Speaker 1: in a tree and I could have just beat that

1360
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 1: that tree with a stick, you know, So it didn't

1361
01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:58,600
Speaker 1: take much to entertain me in the woods. And I

1362
01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:01,000
Speaker 1: just needed this something to hit with the stick. So

1363
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:05,439
Speaker 1: now you've given me this big basically Easter egg hunt.

1364
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:07,920
Speaker 1: But for antlers, well you could keep me entertained all

1365
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:09,400
Speaker 1: day if I'm a little kid by telling me to

1366
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:11,600
Speaker 1: look for an antler, just show me where to go.

1367
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:14,720
Speaker 1: I'm ready. Uh you know now, it's it's better than

1368
01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 1: beating a tree with a stick. So I think kids,

1369
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 1: more so than than anything else, can stay entertained when

1370
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 1: they're in the woods, maybe than than anything. You you

1371
01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:25,200
Speaker 1: put them in a room with a video game, it's

1372
01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:26,720
Speaker 1: gonna get old. You put them in a room with TV,

1373
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:29,040
Speaker 1: it's gonna get old. They're gonna be, you know, trying

1374
01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:31,679
Speaker 1: to climb the walls. Take a kid to the woods

1375
01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:34,200
Speaker 1: and you can you can literally entertain him all day.

1376
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:36,240
Speaker 1: And then you know when you're when you're a guy

1377
01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 1: like Dan Shoes, he's got a whole family out there

1378
01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:41,120
Speaker 1: going with grandkids and kids and friends. And I mean

1379
01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:43,080
Speaker 1: that's an adventure to a kid. You know what I'm saying.

1380
01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:44,599
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it's there's something they don't get

1381
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:47,400
Speaker 1: to do every day. So I personally think shed rally

1382
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 1: is is the perfect gateway to people that are that

1383
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 1: are looking to to ease someone into the outdoor lifestyle

1384
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:55,680
Speaker 1: and not putting the pressure on them of pulling the

1385
01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:58,760
Speaker 1: trigger or being quiet or controlling your scent or any

1386
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:01,519
Speaker 1: of those things that us die hard guys do every

1387
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:04,080
Speaker 1: time we go hunting. You're saying, come on out, let's

1388
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:05,720
Speaker 1: have a good time. Let's walk around the woods and

1389
01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:07,799
Speaker 1: make all the noise you want. We're gonna have a contest,

1390
01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a barbecue, we're gonna high five, and

1391
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:13,439
Speaker 1: just you know, keep it casual, keep it, keep it lighthearted.

1392
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:15,880
Speaker 1: And and the cool thing about shed rally is everybody

1393
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 1: else is doing it at the same time too, So yeah,

1394
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:21,720
Speaker 1: I love that. I think that's one of the best

1395
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:23,639
Speaker 1: things about she hunting. And it's funny that you mentioned

1396
01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:25,479
Speaker 1: the whole you know, just standing in the woods and

1397
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:27,160
Speaker 1: begging a stick on the tree, because I think that's

1398
01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:33,479
Speaker 1: still what Dallas does the time he's out there. Oh man,

1399
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:38,559
Speaker 1: you could give me a stick and keep me busy

1400
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 1: all day when I was six, So I mean, think

1401
01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 1: about now you're telling me to go look for antlers. Well,

1402
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna be a hound dog, you know. Yeah,

1403
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:48,840
Speaker 1: I'll add to that. Just one thing you might do,

1404
01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:51,720
Speaker 1: depending on the child's age. If they're really young, make

1405
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:54,360
Speaker 1: sure you take a few antlers with you to ensure

1406
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:57,920
Speaker 1: that they find something. You know. Um so, so they

1407
01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 1: go home happy and and in its free warding and

1408
01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:02,160
Speaker 1: it's a big deal and you talk about it. Hey,

1409
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:05,000
Speaker 1: do you know you know, my my my daughter, my

1410
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:07,519
Speaker 1: grand child, whoever it is, just found this handling and

1411
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 1: they just beam. You know, they can't wait till the

1412
01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:12,559
Speaker 1: next time they go out, whereas if they not. Everyone's

1413
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:15,040
Speaker 1: like Herb, you know, I mean ter Herb is literally

1414
01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:16,920
Speaker 1: he's a determined guy and he's gonna go and he's

1415
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:18,639
Speaker 1: gonna do it. But some kids that they get bored,

1416
01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:20,960
Speaker 1: they may not want to go the next time. Um

1417
01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:25,400
Speaker 1: can I always take I was gonna say another thing

1418
01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:27,479
Speaker 1: I've noticed that Dan and the guys do is it's

1419
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 1: it's their teaching time for the for the kids as well.

1420
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:32,639
Speaker 1: You may not want to go walk your your best

1421
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:37,680
Speaker 1: betting area or your your your the most uh incredible

1422
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:39,919
Speaker 1: rub line that you have on your property. In October,

1423
01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 1: once the bucks have started laying down all that sign

1424
01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:44,519
Speaker 1: those grace in those rubs. Well, shed rallies are the

1425
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:47,280
Speaker 1: perfect time of year when you're you're not worried as

1426
01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:49,800
Speaker 1: much about intrusion and disturbing things, where you can go

1427
01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:52,120
Speaker 1: show a kid a scrape line or a rub line,

1428
01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:54,639
Speaker 1: or explain to them a betting area and a food

1429
01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:56,400
Speaker 1: source and all that stuff. So this is the time,

1430
01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:59,280
Speaker 1: if you're ever gonna be invasive on your property to

1431
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:03,400
Speaker 1: to to heach and mentor those those kids. Yeah, yeah,

1432
01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:06,840
Speaker 1: that's that's good stuff to her. Um I said to Michael,

1433
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:09,080
Speaker 1: I'm sorry somebody might might I think I'm saying what

1434
01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:11,720
Speaker 1: you said before, But you know I was gonna I

1435
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:14,040
Speaker 1: was gonna mention this to you. I had I've had

1436
01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:16,840
Speaker 1: to shed dogs. One of them was hit by an automobile.

1437
01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:19,679
Speaker 1: The other one was poison I don't think they purposely

1438
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:22,920
Speaker 1: poisoned him, but maybe they're poisoning coons or something. Anyway,

1439
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:25,280
Speaker 1: he died, But but I remember when he was just

1440
01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:29,000
Speaker 1: a pup during the during the training, you could not

1441
01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:31,439
Speaker 1: hide a shed from him. I mean, this just didn't

1442
01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:34,320
Speaker 1: matter where you put it. But there are a lot

1443
01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 1: like a little kid the first time you take him out.

1444
01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:39,040
Speaker 1: Like the first time that I took the dog's name

1445
01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:41,200
Speaker 1: was White Oak, and he was just one year old,

1446
01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:43,360
Speaker 1: and I took him out for the first time. Uh.

1447
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:46,840
Speaker 1: He he was more interested in eating coon droppings and

1448
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:49,600
Speaker 1: chasing butterflies. He was so excited to be out in

1449
01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:52,479
Speaker 1: the real world, you know. And uh, so I I

1450
01:12:52,680 --> 01:12:56,320
Speaker 1: took I took a few antlers and uh and rewarded

1451
01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:58,519
Speaker 1: him just like I did during training. And he was

1452
01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 1: all fired up about it. And then the next time

1453
01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:04,479
Speaker 1: I took him out, Um, he was. The next time

1454
01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:06,080
Speaker 1: I took him out with the next season, he was

1455
01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:08,800
Speaker 1: two years old, and he was really really good. I

1456
01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:10,639
Speaker 1: mean he could find it. You couldn't hide a hand

1457
01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:12,720
Speaker 1: or from there's just if it was down wind of him,

1458
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:15,040
Speaker 1: he could find it. But at the same time, there's

1459
01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:17,400
Speaker 1: all kinds of other sense going on, and he's been

1460
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:21,000
Speaker 1: kind of sheltered, and he hadn't smelled all this stuff before.

1461
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:24,240
Speaker 1: He hadn't smelled deer, he hasn't smelled coons, hasn't smelled anything.

1462
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:27,040
Speaker 1: So he's out chasing and playing and uh and and

1463
01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:29,320
Speaker 1: I got kind of frustrated, and I said, Uh, I said,

1464
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:32,719
Speaker 1: why Oak, load up and so I'm heading towards the truck,

1465
01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:35,040
Speaker 1: and I'm a little bit I'm a little bit aggravating,

1466
01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 1: a little frustrated and walking towards the truck, and all

1467
01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:40,800
Speaker 1: of a sudden, roarers me in the calf muscle and

1468
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:43,080
Speaker 1: I looked down and whye Oak shoved an antler into

1469
01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:46,000
Speaker 1: my calf that he picked up, just just grabbed it

1470
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:47,800
Speaker 1: while we were heading back to the truck. So I

1471
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:50,000
Speaker 1: patted them, rewarded him. I always gave him something eat

1472
01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:53,599
Speaker 1: and we His command was wash. He'd played and everything,

1473
01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 1: you know, and it was hunted hunt him up. When

1474
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:57,400
Speaker 1: I say hunt him up, white Oak was business, you know.

1475
01:13:57,520 --> 01:14:00,560
Speaker 1: And and uh and after after that, I threatened to

1476
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 1: take him back home. He was just all business. After that.

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Speaker 1: This is kind of cool. And I just touched on

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Speaker 1: this really quick because I know we're widing it up.

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Speaker 1: But if you have a shed dog, the important thing

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Speaker 1: to do is be patient. Because this is what I

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Speaker 1: experienced with white Oak. The first year I had white Oak,

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Speaker 1: I was better than white Oak. I could find more

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Speaker 1: antlers than white oak. The second year I had a

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Speaker 1: white oak, white Oak and I were about the same.

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Speaker 1: The third year, when white Oak was three years old.

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Speaker 1: Now all of a sudden, he understands he's putting two

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Speaker 1: to two, two and two together, and he understands, this

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Speaker 1: is what I want. This is what makes me happy,

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Speaker 1: this is what gets him rewards. And uh, his ability

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Speaker 1: as far as finding antlers was so good. It's like

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Speaker 1: I wasn't even on the face of the earth. He

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01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:46,320
Speaker 1: was so so much better. He'd run down whind of

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Speaker 1: of a stubble corn field and with his nose up

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Speaker 1: in the air, and if there was a there was

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Speaker 1: a drop shed that was I don't know, maybe within

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Speaker 1: two weeks old he could find he could smell the

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Speaker 1: wax around the base of that that shed from about

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Speaker 1: sixty yards it turned around on the I mean, run

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Speaker 1: across the stubble cornfield, pick it up and run back

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Speaker 1: to me. And and that is that's amazing. But you

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Speaker 1: gotta be patient with him. So I thought i'd throw

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Speaker 1: that in there. Yeah, that's that's awesome. We UM for

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Speaker 1: anyone listening today that didn't catch last week's episode. UM.

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Speaker 1: Last week episode forty five, we had Jeremy Moore who

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Speaker 1: is a shed dog trainer, and so we talked all

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01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:22,040
Speaker 1: about that very topic and got lots of lots of

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01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:25,439
Speaker 1: great information, so be sure to check that one out too. Um,

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01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:27,559
Speaker 1: but I think this is a perfect place for us

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Speaker 1: to wrap things up. This has been awesome and I

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Speaker 1: was already excited about shed hunting this weekend, but now

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Speaker 1: I'm even more excited. So if anyone out there listening

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Speaker 1: right now, if they want to learn more about white

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Speaker 1: tail properties or the shed Rally, Michael, where would you

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01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:43,439
Speaker 1: recommend they go? So? I think, uh, kind of with

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01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:46,679
Speaker 1: with the weekend upon us of shed Rally. The best

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01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:49,400
Speaker 1: place you can find more information out about white tail

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01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:52,320
Speaker 1: properties or shed Rally would be on Facebook, Twitter, or Instagram.

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01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:55,040
Speaker 1: And uh, you can look for us on Facebook at

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Speaker 1: facebook dot com slash white tail properties. Perfect. We will

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Speaker 1: make sure to include those links in the show notes

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Speaker 1: for this episode. And UM, I know I'm gonna be

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Speaker 1: out there hitting the woods here soon and Dallas will

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Speaker 1: be and I hope both you, Michael and Dan have

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Speaker 1: some luck this weekend. To thank you so much for

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01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:14,040
Speaker 1: joining us. Yeah, good luck to you guys as well,

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Speaker 1: and thank you for having us absolutely, thanks a lot.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you later. Wow, that was that was

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01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:25,640
Speaker 1: pretty awesome, don't you think, Dallas? I agree, it did

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Speaker 1: that conversation definitely got me pumped up about this weekend,

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01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:33,439
Speaker 1: either fighting the snow and doing some shed hunting, or

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01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:38,000
Speaker 1: or waiting two weeks and potentially finding some cute antlers

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01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 1: but none the last man. Just getting outside and walking

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01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:45,240
Speaker 1: for sheds is fun. Yeah, it's gonna be. Uh. Guys,

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Speaker 1: I really really really hope this snowstorm that we're supposed

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Speaker 1: to have doesn't happen, because I'm I'm chomping at the

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01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:54,519
Speaker 1: bit right now. So we'll uh, we'll definitely be I

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Speaker 1: will definitely be posting updates on the Wired Hunt Facebook

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01:16:57,080 --> 01:17:00,719
Speaker 1: page and Instagram and Twitter, um this weekend on Saturday

1539
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:02,599
Speaker 1: for the shed Railey, hopefully I'll be out there looking

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01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:05,160
Speaker 1: for some bone. And uh, I'm sure you will be

1541
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:08,280
Speaker 1: to Dan or Dallas over at the Nine Finger Chronicles.

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Speaker 1: And speaking of I think you had an announcement you

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Speaker 1: wanted to make about the Nine Finger Chronicles, is that right? Right? Right? Um? Well,

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Speaker 1: March marks the one year anniversary of the Nine Fingure Chronicles,

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01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:23,520
Speaker 1: So to kind of celebrate, um, to all the podcast

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Speaker 1: listeners and to the followers of the Nine Finger Chronicles,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be doing some some gear giveaway. I know,

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Speaker 1: that you're gonna be donating some hats and uh, I'm

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01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:38,519
Speaker 1: going to be talking with some other companies about about

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01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:43,040
Speaker 1: donating some products to get a giveaway. So just make

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Speaker 1: sure you go and visit m the nine Finger Chronicles

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Speaker 1: dot com for the latest blog. It's either gonna be

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Speaker 1: posted um tomorrow or it's gonna be posted on Friday

1554
01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:57,759
Speaker 1: and uh or actually when this releases, it's gonna be Thursday.

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01:17:57,880 --> 01:18:01,800
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be Thursday Friday this week and there's

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01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 1: gonna be instructions there on what you need to do

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01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:08,680
Speaker 1: in order to get entered into this giveaway. And just

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Speaker 1: another reason for free to gear. Man, I love it,

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01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:14,240
Speaker 1: gotta love, gotta love a little free gear. So I

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Speaker 1: will make sure to uh to post that in the

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Speaker 1: show notes as well. Sounds good, awesome, Well, I'd say

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Speaker 1: that is going to do it for us today on

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Speaker 1: the podcast and for show notes from this episode. With

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Speaker 1: all the links from today's show, please visit wired to

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Speaker 1: Hunt dot com slash episode and why are there be

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Speaker 1: sure to explore the new word to hunt, which is

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Speaker 1: looking much improved in my opinion. I hope you like it. Also,

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Speaker 1: as we always ask, if you enjoyed the show. Please

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Speaker 1: take a hot second to leave us a rating or

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Speaker 1: review on iTunes. It means a lot to us. We

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Speaker 1: also like to thank our partners whose support has helped

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Speaker 1: keep Wired to Hunt chugging along so big. Thank you too,

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Speaker 1: Sick of Gear, Trophy, Ridge Bear Archery, Red Nick Blinds,

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Speaker 1: Carbon Express Arrows, Hunt Soft, Lacrosse Boots, Big and Jay

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Speaker 1: Lawrange Attractings, and the White Tail Institute of North America.

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Speaker 1: And finally, thank you all for joining us today. If

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Speaker 1: you're heading out soon goes shut hunting, I wish you

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Speaker 1: good luck, stay safe and don't forget the t P,

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Speaker 1: and of course stay Wired to Hun