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Speaker 2: satisfy them and be like, yo, you you guys are

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Speaker 2: the greatest. You guys are right, we're losers. We're fucking laves,

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Speaker 2: like we're fucking yeah, you know you guys. Hey, man,

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Speaker 2: you guys win.

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Speaker 1: But that is how you want? Is that how you

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Speaker 2: Mean I don't really care, which is kind of funny.

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Speaker 2: But of course, anytime, whether it be the report of

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Speaker 2: I had no information like anyone else. We were all speculating.

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Speaker 2: I was like, hmmm, I don't know what the case is.

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Speaker 1: They have ran that.

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Speaker 2: Clip to the ground, like I'm like, it's actually makes

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Speaker 1: They said that.

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Speaker 2: It's like the people that are like, this is why

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Speaker 1: The ones that get like somebody should die behind older this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then they also just go like after that,

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Speaker 1: It's absolutely I don't know. It's weird.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not here to like really defend Eddie

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Speaker 2: I don't care if Drake is doing this for artists,

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Speaker 1: I didn't say that.

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Speaker 2: I did not care if Drake was doing this for

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Speaker 2: I just thought it could be helpful if ung had

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Speaker 2: It then turned into this whole defamation and everything else.

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Speaker 2: I just don't care that much now about the case

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Speaker 2: whatever deposition is happening, I was curious. I didn't care

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Speaker 2: I just thought it would be cool if we finally

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Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot. You know, my phone went crazy when

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Speaker 4: It's funny to see people's reaction and again people still

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Speaker 2: As someone that thought I understood it now I actually

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Speaker 2: initially suing for UMG promoting, pushing and using bots about

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Speaker 2: all right, the case is dismissed because there's no defamation.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm an, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: Clearly the paperwork that I initially read is not even

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Speaker 2: But I didn't think that was the lawsuit. I thought

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Speaker 2: all right, yeah, he said mean things about you, but

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Speaker 1: The words non actionable.

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Speaker 2: With what the judges said, Like I said, rap up.

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Speaker 2: I just didn't think that was what the laws.

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Speaker 5: No, that was the lawsuit.

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Speaker 6: The main thing in the case was the defamation and

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Speaker 6: Like that's why you know, shit like that the defamation lawsuit.

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Speaker 6: But if you can't whether they were pro on top

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Speaker 6: But if you can't prove the defamation, then the amplifying

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Speaker 1: Fair.

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Speaker 5: So that's where.

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Speaker 2: didn't even see understands Drake's angle. The judge just proves

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Speaker 2: that he's not a pedophile. That was his case the

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Speaker 2: they were like, well, that was his plan the whole time.

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Speaker 5: That the defamation would be.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying this is logic.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just telling you what I was reading.

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Speaker 2: I'm just telling you what I was reading.

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Speaker 5: It makes no sense, but.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I had a bunch of people hit me of

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Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know what what what do

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Speaker 1: Well, apologize?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know what people are thinking because

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Speaker 4: this to another level. Yeah, I mean, I don't know

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Speaker 2: I mean, shitty, just should we just let it go?

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Speaker 1: Not see No, no, at this point.

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Speaker 4: No, what would you if you had, if you and

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Speaker 2: But why wouldn't And I'm not saying that it depends

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Speaker 1: Every Yeah, didn't they reveal everything?

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Speaker 2: Because that was also something I saw on the the

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Speaker 2: I was like, why wouldn't you just.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I'm not just given. I'm not speaking to shit.

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Speaker 4: I'm speaking to fact shit, like real things, Like I

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Speaker 4: don't this is not over it.

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Speaker 7: I don't.

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Speaker 4: I know people hear things getting dismissed, but like there's

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Speaker 4: ready to go to. I don't think this is a

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Speaker 4: It's definitely not over here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I I see the side of even

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Speaker 2: like this mystique and you're making not like us the

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Speaker 2: greatest battle record of all time. The more you do

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Speaker 2: Like I'm sure not like us because of this announcement,

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Speaker 2: with these moves, and the appeal is just going to

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Speaker 4: That see both sides, like, yeah, but that's the side

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Speaker 2: I know that he doesn't care.

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Speaker 4: When one, when you don't care, two, when you know

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Speaker 4: none of us knows Drake's business with his label. We

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Speaker 4: somebody of his caliber and his level is not going

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Speaker 4: all do not know. They have information that none of

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Speaker 2: Okay, But then I guess I would ask, if you're

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying that doesn't happen. If you have all

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Speaker 2: Drake's lawyers making a grave mistake in this entire thing,

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Speaker 2: like even going in that approach of going the defamation route,

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Speaker 2: because clearly the judge was like, this is a rap battle.

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Speaker 2: This is not a negotiation for your deal with Universal.

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Speaker 2: I think that, like I said, they should have revealed

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Speaker 2: the stuff that we don't know.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the case, Yeah, the information that like people keeps,

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Speaker 6: there's information that the general public doesn't know. Well, I

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Speaker 6: would assume that if there's information that's pertinent to hint

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Speaker 5: And we all have the paperwork.

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Speaker 6: So that's why it's like, what is this magic eight

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Speaker 6: ball information?

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Speaker 4: Well, how many days ago did they ask for the discovery?

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Speaker 4: It wasn't it was what maybe two weeks ago, maybe.

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Speaker 6: October ninth, twenty twenty four. Oh no, yeah, let me

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Speaker 2: Because even like while watch though, wasn't that long ago,

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Speaker 6: Partial discovery was granted around the end of June. Top

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Speaker 4: Limited discovery on certain communications. Yeah, so I don't I

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Speaker 1: What you know Universal did.

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Speaker 4: We do know that he's a top priority at Universal.

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Speaker 7: I think that Dangerous did something incredible for me this

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Speaker 7: Wow mmmmmm. I'll probably say John because it's the bigger,

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Speaker 7: and that was a crazy story. So John was a song.

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Speaker 7: I went to work with Polo to Don and this

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Speaker 2: So years news later do you still have the U

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Speaker 1: Somebody got took.

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Speaker 2: That hard drive.

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Speaker 7: Somebody leaked that ship for.

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Speaker 7: I ain't know, I wouldn't.

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Speaker 8: I wouldn't, I wouldn't live like that my tagging, even

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Speaker 1: Talking about it.

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Speaker 2: But then didn't another version of that end up on teflon.

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Speaker 7: Down somebody did a similar beat. Yeah, it wasn't that.

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Speaker 2: John Yeah, what was the name of that? It was

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Speaker 7: Hmmm? The one was that record that I was telling

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Speaker 7: But I would have to go favorite just because man

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Speaker 7: like y'all don't understand them. Nicki Minine sessions was amazing

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Speaker 7: I forget her name, Candice her last name. She used

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Speaker 7: It was like a beach like Nigga had sand in

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Speaker 7: just she would just be there sober, doing whatever she doing.

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Speaker 7: And then she just let me, gave me free reign.

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Speaker 7: I'm like, nigga, what the fuck you even come to

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Speaker 7: He went in there, he did one takedown and somehow,

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Speaker 7: some way he said, I just want to be your favorite.

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Speaker 7: I'm like, that's it, stopped him, got it, chopped it up,

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Speaker 2: That's fucking that's wild. That's super wild. What's her process? Like, NIGGI,

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Speaker 1: Incredible, Sexy Lady or Sexy Kenna.

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Speaker 7: Oh my god, i' mna have to go Sexy Kenna

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Speaker 7: He got me the chain and I never forgetted me.

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Speaker 7: Billy J. Cap One, we walked from the Lowe's Hotel

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Speaker 7: And then from there it leads us to the epic

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Speaker 7: We're a childie in La And this when he just

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Speaker 7: The nigga put out all Vivid DVDs, a porn and

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Speaker 7: there's a girl that's like talking so bad about ray J,

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00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,760
Speaker 7: Like you trash nigga, you get your weak ass out

440
00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:28,560
Speaker 7: of here, and I'm like, who.

441
00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,560
Speaker 8: Is this girl disrespecting J Like through that, I ain't

442
00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:33,960
Speaker 8: know it. Tierra Marie at the time like he ain't

443
00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:34,359
Speaker 8: cooked at me.

444
00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:34,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo.

445
00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,560
Speaker 7: The nigga goes in the booth, he like, I gotta

446
00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,040
Speaker 7: hit this last line. He's like getting dungeons in some

447
00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:45,520
Speaker 7: fun and he like, nah, it's my Stevie.

448
00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:51,680
Speaker 1: She like, get your Stevie from there.

449
00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,080
Speaker 7: We delivered the record, and shit that shit shot up

450
00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:56,920
Speaker 7: to like fucking I think it peaked at number two

451
00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:58,560
Speaker 7: on the Hot one hundred or whatever. And it's like,

452
00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:00,560
Speaker 7: why this ray J and Young Bird had this record

453
00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:01,760
Speaker 7: that all these white people.

454
00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,639
Speaker 1: Like, I mean, yeah, that fucking melody is.

455
00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:04,160
Speaker 2: I went.

456
00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,199
Speaker 7: I went to jail on the video set of the

457
00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,280
Speaker 7: video for what the first shot of the day we

458
00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,679
Speaker 7: in Miami. I'm smoking a blunt. Nigga's down to like

459
00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:14,720
Speaker 7: a roach. I throw the blunt out of the fucking

460
00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,639
Speaker 7: ship and the police that was one set to protect

461
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:18,480
Speaker 7: us came, picked up the roach and took me to jail.

462
00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:19,919
Speaker 1: That's crazy.

463
00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,000
Speaker 7: Saquilo Meal bailed me out of jail.

464
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:29,000
Speaker 1: I can't make this ship up, bro, Like, yeah, bro.

465
00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:30,800
Speaker 8: I knew I should have known the record was going down,

466
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,480
Speaker 8: and when came that is your greatest record?

467
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:39,440
Speaker 1: Kidding, don't getting no great sold on. Let's slow down

468
00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,800
Speaker 1: for second. I got to sat number memorized.

469
00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:45,680
Speaker 7: No. Ray J and Shaq had a business deal and

470
00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:47,919
Speaker 7: I think he was the investor on ray J's project

471
00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:48,360
Speaker 7: at the time.

472
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, and he was.

473
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:54,240
Speaker 7: A police officer in Miami. Bro Nigga came and bailed

474
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:59,800
Speaker 7: me out of jail. Come on, little man, and I

475
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,680
Speaker 7: back on set twelve hours later, and it's like I never.

476
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:08,520
Speaker 1: Went to jail. It's sexy, can die fucking Oh my god.

477
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,120
Speaker 2: So I guess Kim has a type then, because I'd

478
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,639
Speaker 2: heard at every Kanye session all he would have was

479
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,440
Speaker 2: just porno on the whole time, like it would be,

480
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 2: it would be, it's not that horny assistance in pr

481
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,240
Speaker 2: coming back to the Deaf Jam office like shell shocks, Like, yeah,

482
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 2: we went to the studio and it was just hardcore

483
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:25,480
Speaker 2: porn playing the entire time.

484
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,200
Speaker 7: It's like, Bro is different.

485
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:36,680
Speaker 2: Bro, that's a difference, Apple Horny. Where do we begin

486
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:41,119
Speaker 2: with the mob deep problem? Oh man, I'm ready to

487
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:41,880
Speaker 2: shed it, dear.

488
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:43,640
Speaker 7: It's so good.

489
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:44,959
Speaker 1: It's a really good project.

490
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 2: It was.

491
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 1: I was so happy when I put them on, played

492
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,399
Speaker 1: it like they did. They did it right.

493
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,159
Speaker 2: It feels like this is not you know, Demaris, I

494
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 2: can never say the word postumus, posthumous, posthumous. Yeah, it's

495
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 2: not a possum album. It really feels like Havoc, Prodigy

496
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 2: and Alchemists put out an album in twenty twenty five. Absolutely,

497
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,399
Speaker 2: it feels like an evolution of Mob Deep in the

498
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 2: most beautiful way ever. There's not a fucking skip on it.

499
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 2: Prodigy is rapping at the highest level of Prodigy, which

500
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 2: is saying something Havoc sounds incredible. I don't know what

501
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,920
Speaker 2: to say more about what this Mob Deep album is.

502
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,119
Speaker 1: What is it about twenty five where like we're seeing

503
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 1: you know, Mob Deep and mass Appeal.

504
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, Like, what is it? Like?

505
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 1: Look, what's going on mass Appeal is is?

506
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 2: I mean, I know people are obviously talking about Mass

507
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,120
Speaker 2: Appeal and everything that they're doing, but I still think

508
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 2: we need to champion them even more. Everything that Peter

509
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,680
Speaker 2: Nas and the whole staff over there. Shit, Anthony, I'm

510
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 2: sure just being Nas manager is heavily involved with it too.

511
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 2: What you guys are doing is how hip hop should

512
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 2: age like This is the best example ever when they

513
00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 2: say no country for old men, Nope, hip hop is

514
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 2: aging perfectly because of what NAS and Mass Appeal are doing.

515
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 2: Everything is incredible. It's handled with care, it's not just

516
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 2: to do it for the fuck of it. They're all

517
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 2: moving together too, and they were all at Comic Conna.

518
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 2: Believe that was this weekend. Like seeing everyone move together

519
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 2: to to promote it. It's been the most beautiful thing

520
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 2: to watch hip hop age in this way. Absolutely like

521
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 2: NAS does not get enough credit for what this is

522
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:27,159
Speaker 2: what elder statesmen are supposed to do, not only look

523
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,159
Speaker 2: out for the younger, but also your peers and before you.

524
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 4: Make sure things are done right, done with taste, done

525
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 4: with attention to detail, curating things properly.

526
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 1: I think, like you said, everything you said is correct.

527
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,159
Speaker 4: What Master Piell has been doing with all of the

528
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 4: projects that they've been a part of has been just

529
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 4: handled with so much like you said, care, and you

530
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 4: know they really, you know, want to make sure things

531
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,399
Speaker 4: are done correctly and with class and still have that

532
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,399
Speaker 4: style that you know hip hop is supposed to have.

533
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 4: So shout out the Mass Appeal because they've been getting

534
00:24:59,000 --> 00:24:59,239
Speaker 4: it right.

535
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,399
Speaker 2: Yeah that shit, I mean just coming off the intro, Like,

536
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 2: I literally did not take the Mobdi album off over

537
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 2: the weekend like usually I take my break to catch

538
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 2: up on my pod shit and you know, audio books

539
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 2: and that shit. This was probably the first weekend in

540
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 2: a while that I literally did not stop listening to

541
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 2: one album for three days straight out the gate called

542
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 2: me corny, but shit against the world when Prodigy end

543
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 2: of that shit will see you on the other side,

544
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 2: I legitimately got fucking shows. Yeah, and even pore the

545
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:36,719
Speaker 2: Hennessy of Like having that verse of like already pre

546
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 2: recorded for if I Pass Away was absolutely insane, and

547
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 2: then having Nas follow that shit up was I can't

548
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 2: even say enough about it. Hearing Ray Kwan and Ghost

549
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 2: face with them again was incredible the clips for the

550
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 2: first time, Like it just reminds you how important duos are.

551
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 2: And I know, like Ghost and Ray obviously are solo

552
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,119
Speaker 2: and all that, but they're a duo clips duo, like

553
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 2: that ship is needed in hip hop. I feel like

554
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 2: the big group shit cool, solo cool, but just two

555
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 2: fucking people that could rap well. I missed that shit

556
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:18,640
Speaker 2: so much and this this nailed it, Like Alchemists, When

557
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 2: are we to have the conversation of I know he

558
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:27,679
Speaker 2: gets his flowers, but the way we talk about Swizz, Tim, Kanye,

559
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 2: just you can make an argument that al is above

560
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 2: some of them at this point. This this run for

561
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 2: the last five six years, outside of what Al already accomplished,

562
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,199
Speaker 2: what he is even when he posted his for your

563
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,159
Speaker 2: Grammy consideration and you just looked at what he did

564
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 2: in the last fucking year and in the middle of

565
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 2: doing this, also doing his Eric about Due album, coming

566
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 2: off to Freddy gives shit, doing the Mob Deep like

567
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 2: hit Boy album, rapping crazy on that, Like, is there

568
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:59,160
Speaker 2: even a debate that Al is not a list hip

569
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,360
Speaker 2: hop royalty a producer, that's not. No, but like it's

570
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,640
Speaker 2: a different status at this point, Like he surpassed Tim

571
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:05,120
Speaker 2: in my brain.

572
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: Well, Tim does more than just hip hop like Tim,

573
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 1: you know, he does more than rap. So Tim is

574
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 1: a different he does AI. You're right about that.

575
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 2: But if we're doing it versus this year, you and

576
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 2: your fucking bullshit uh Korean AI girl versus Eric Abad,

577
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 2: do I think I'm gonna.

578
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 4: Go oh no, no for absolutely, But you know, Alchemist

579
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 4: is again, we talked about it. He's the soundtrack to

580
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 4: you know, New York hip hop. His sound is the

581
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 4: is the backdrop to New York City. As far as

582
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 4: I'm concerned, he's one of my favorite producers ever. And

583
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 4: what he continues to do and how he continues to

584
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 4: still find ways to be creative and stay motivated, stay

585
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 4: inspired by this new generation in new sounds. It's dope

586
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 4: to watch, you know what I'm saying, him still have

587
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 4: fun with it and things like this. You know this,

588
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 4: this Mob Deep album, which is obviously very personal for him.

589
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 4: For him to still be able to capture that feeling

590
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 4: and keep that Mob Deep sound to a certain level

591
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 4: of where we know it to be, it just speaks

592
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 4: to als of his just you know, his dedication to

593
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 4: just always staying sharp and keeping keeping his craft at

594
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 4: a high level. But yeah, definitely Alchemists. I mean, I

595
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 4: don't know who argues Alchemist is his status in you know,

596
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,640
Speaker 4: the best producer of all time category.

597
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,360
Speaker 2: I guess I'm just saying now with the second run

598
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 2: he's had, I think it's undeniable. Like before, maybe there

599
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 2: was some conversation like, oh, you gotta look Swiss as

600
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 2: these huge number one records and with all these A lists,

601
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 2: I just think with this run. You can't say all

602
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 2: those names and not say Alchemists absolutely well, and not

603
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 2: that he gives a fuck, but yeah, but that makes

604
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 2: it even better. He don't do it for that. He

605
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 2: don't talk about the recognition of it. He just wants

606
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 2: the music and the craft to speaks for itself and

607
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 2: shout out to to have it. I mean, obviously you

608
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 2: know they called al the third member of Mob Deep

609
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 2: years and years ago, but to even you know, have

610
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 2: our part of that as well, I thought says a

611
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 2: lot about Havoc too, because I Have could have been like, no,

612
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 2: not this one. It is just I'm just doing this

613
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 2: me and p so to collaborate with him there, because

614
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 2: I think Have is one of the most underrated producers,

615
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 2: probably the most underrated drums and hip hop historys have

616
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 2: to me, but him also, you know, letting out be

617
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 2: a part of this, I think was says a lot

618
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 2: about Avoc absolutely regard but sorry for the nerd shit.

619
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 2: I just can't say enough.

620
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 4: No, the album Mob Deep album definite available now if

621
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 4: you haven't heard it. I don't know what she was

622
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 4: listening to, but definitely go listen to that Mob Deep album.

623
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 2: They also announced nas DJ premiere dropping Decemmer twenty twenty five.

624
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 2: They put out a record a couple of months ago.

625
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 2: I mean we've been hearing about this for over a year.

626
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 2: I can't wait for this, Like what a fucking year.

627
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 2: Yeah that we also get a nas in premier ship

628
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:48,959
Speaker 2: at the end of the year.

629
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 1: I mean we've been talking about this for for years.

630
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 2: You know, we get a big l album into as well.

631
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, this mass appeal is listen, man, I love it, man.

632
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 4: I think you know they've they've carved a very specific

633
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 4: thing out for what they want to do and how

634
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 4: they want to do things, and they've been executing at

635
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 4: a high level.

636
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 1: The quality has been incredible.

637
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 4: So I'm here man, I'm looking forward to anything that

638
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 4: Max A Peel is doing.

639
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to it.

640
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 2: If I don't know, if there's some type of Grammy

641
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 2: or there's something, there should be some type of award.

642
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 2: I feel like for Label of the Year, some something.

643
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 2: They deserve that type of award. And even coming off

644
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 2: was it fifty years last year for hip Hop Anniversary

645
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 2: years two years ago, even Massive Heel being you know,

646
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 2: behind the celebration at Yankee Stadium, Like I don't ever

647
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 2: want to hear any old head complain that hip hop

648
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 2: was in a bad space, Like you look at what

649
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 2: they're doing with the genre that we love. Yeah, they're

650
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 2: still this side over here, absolutely, And if you're complaining,

651
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 2: you need to start praising fucking Mass Appeal and what

652
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 2: they've done and on the dock side and on the

653
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 2: content side.

654
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 1: I'm mass Appeal. I'm sorry.

655
00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 2: You guys are amazing what you do, Like, I appreciate

656
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 2: that shit. It's all podcasting lately is fucking hating. I

657
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 2: want to highlight how amazing a company is doing right now,

658
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 2: like for the spirit all that corny shit of hip hop, Like,

659
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 2: let's stop complaining about shit sometimes and highlight the people

660
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 2: that are doing it correctly.

661
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 4: No, the dope shit is out there. I mean, you

662
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 4: just got to pay attention to it and highlight it

663
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 4: and support it. But it's it's definitely great hip hop

664
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 4: music still being produced, still being created. So yeah, you

665
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 4: just gotta support it when you see it. And again,

666
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 4: this Mob the Infinite album is one of them. And

667
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 4: looking forward to again, you know anything that mass Pill

668
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 4: is doing, because they are they just paying attention to

669
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 4: the to the details, man, just making sure everything is

670
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 4: done at a certain level. So you got to support anybody,

671
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 4: any creator that's paying attention to the small things and

672
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 4: the details of it.

673
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 2: Nah, for sure, And I mean anything to get nads

674
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 2: outside too. I love that just Nas is just running

675
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 2: around New York. Now, yeah, this shit is great to see. Man,

676
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 2: they a lot looks incredible. Everybody looks young, like healthy

677
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 2: and shit.

678
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: Love it. But be the example man hip hop and

679
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: age gracefully.

680
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, we do need to start by saying rest in

681
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 2: peace to one of the greatest musicians, singers, artists of

682
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 2: our time, DiAngelo. Yeah. This this was one of those

683
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 2: this like when artists die or celebrities die sometimes like

684
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 2: oh that sucks with this, this one like hurt, Like

685
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 2: I felt like I know him and I've never met him.

686
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's this.

687
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 2: I don't even know where to begin on this one.

688
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 2: How many times in the last ten years of podcasting

689
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 2: I have we just discussed our Dmslow was one of

690
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 2: our favorite artists ever. Anytime we have an R and

691
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 2: B debate, first name we bringing up like he was

692
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 2: one of them. Absolutely, Like you can't compare his voice

693
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 2: or style to any other artist period, whether be pop,

694
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 2: R and B, and Neils or whatever he I mean,

695
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 2: he was a goat with you know, three albums that

696
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 2: he spread out in each generation an era that he

697
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 2: put an album out. He changed the face of music

698
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 2: during absolutely so yeah, I mean, uh, you know, condolences

699
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 2: to his family, definitely, to his his son, definitely, probably

700
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 2: rough rough year for him losing both parents, so surprise,

701
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 2: and condolences to his son as well as his daughter too.

702
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 2: But did you ever have the privilege of meeting D'Angelo?

703
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: Uh, he was in the studio one night. I forgot

704
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 1: whose session it was.

705
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,479
Speaker 4: He was in the studio, but we never I never

706
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 4: had the the privilege of having an actual one on

707
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 4: one conversation and kicking with him, kicking it with him

708
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 4: and giving him his flowers. But you know when you

709
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 4: say di'angelo, you know, for somebody growing up in the nineties,

710
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 4: we call it the Golden era of music R and B.

711
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 4: Especially D'Angelo was was the guy that you know, absolutely

712
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 4: changed the style. You know, you used to seeing musicians

713
00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 4: look a certain way. You're not used to seeing musicians

714
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 4: with the talent level of it. The Angelo would have

715
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 4: corn rolls and you know, leather jackets and no shirt

716
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 4: like it was like, you know, he just changed the

717
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:13,720
Speaker 4: style of what musicians look like, especially in the nineties,

718
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 4: Like he just came in and was you know, just

719
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 4: completely completely just changed the sound and the energy in

720
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 4: R and B soul. So many people that are an

721
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 4: extension of his talent and his musical genius. So receiving

722
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 4: that news of his past and was definitely heavy, like

723
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 4: you know, because the Angelou was never somebody that was

724
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 4: ever really in the headlines. So it's easy to kind

725
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 4: of like not think about the Angelo unless you like

726
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 4: hearing his music or like you you know, he happens

727
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 4: to be working on a new project. So when you know,

728
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 4: I forgot who hit the chat and it was like

729
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 4: the Angelo passed.

730
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 1: I was like I read that.

731
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 4: I was like, whoa you let me just reading that

732
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 4: was just like that's somebody he wasn't expecting to just

733
00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 4: you know, read that passed away. But after privately, you know,

734
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 4: battling the illness and things like that, you know, the

735
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 4: family decided to keep that, you know, because he was again,

736
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 4: he was not Dangelo wasn't somebody that was ever really

737
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 4: in the headlines. It wasn't nothing negative.

738
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 8: You know.

739
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: It was just like if it wasn't about music. If

740
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: he wasn't performing, you didn't know what D'Angelo was doing.

741
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:17,800
Speaker 1: And I think that's the way he wanted it.

742
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 4: That's the way he you know, saw to his mystique

743
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 4: and his aura was was strictly about the music and

744
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 4: his talent. But so young, you know, to to to

745
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 4: pass away at fifty one, and his talent, man, you know,

746
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 4: obviously had to live on.

747
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: His music lives on. But yeah, di'angelo was was one

748
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: of the greats. You know.

749
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 4: For him to no longer be with us, you know,

750
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 4: so soon, it's just like it's just kind of like,

751
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 4: you know, put you in a fall because you can't

752
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 4: really like damn like that fast so soon, like, but

753
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 4: you know, one of the greatest. Remember listening to you know,

754
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 4: Lady and Brown Sugar being in high school, like he

755
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 4: was just a soundtrack if you was, like had a

756
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 4: crush on a girl, so you had to play D'Angelo.

757
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 4: You had to, like, you know, if it was a

758
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 4: talent show, it was like, who's gonna sing DeAngelo? Like

759
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 4: everybody came, Who's gonna try to do that? Everybody D'Angelo

760
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 4: Like he was just the coolest of the cool man,

761
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 4: so prayers and condolence. Is his family left an incredible legacy,

762
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 4: you know, just somebody just had so much musical integrity

763
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 4: and so much style and and and did it his way.

764
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 4: So yeah, man, it's it's a terrible loss for the

765
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 4: coaching and for music. But you know, his work is here,

766
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 4: His his music is here, the people that he influences here,

767
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 4: the artists that he worked would is still here.

768
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 1: So you know, his music and his art lives off

769
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: for sure.

770
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. When I was working for Kevin Lyles, he was

771
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,240
Speaker 2: working with D'Angelo I guess you could say managing Dangelo

772
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,320
Speaker 2: at that time for the Black Messiah album and Dangel

773
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 2: that you know obviously never came to the office, never

774
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 2: was like, you know, part of any meetings or anything.

775
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 2: But when I say, anytime Kevin would play like a

776
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 2: song from that before it came out, like we would

777
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 2: all just gather around like the media room door like

778
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 2: children and just put our fucking ear to the side

779
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 2: to try to hear that shit. So like seeing that

780
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 2: project from an office standpoint completely come together was like

781
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 2: just an honor to be next to somebody that was

782
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:17,720
Speaker 2: working with Dangelo.

783
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: Like I had nothing whatsoever to do.

784
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 2: I was just in the office. But that was like

785
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 2: one of the coolest times ever of like damn listening

786
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 2: to a d' angelo project right now, like nobody's heard,

787
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 2: but yeah, with me and Dixon were in Electric Lady,

788
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 2: which is a very famous studio in New York City

789
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 2: where you know Dangel recorded most of his work, So

790
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 2: aquariums from fuck Eric Bado, everyone you know recorded out

791
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 2: of there. We like didn't work for like an hour

792
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 2: and a half because we were just sitting there talk

793
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 2: like like Dangelo sat right here. Yeah, like we shouldn't

794
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 2: be allowed it. It's fun, like why are we why

795
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 2: are we working in here? This is nuts, Like that's

796
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 2: the same both incredible talent man. So yeah, rest in peace. Again.

797
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 2: I don't know if you have any Dangelo memories, not

798
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 2: like personal, We'll.

799
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,280
Speaker 5: Just like you guys covered everything.

800
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 1: He's a good job. Yeah, I did see.

801
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 2: And I'm not sure if this was a rumor confirmed

802
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 2: that prior to his death he was working on did

803
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 2: it say like six different projects or something he was

804
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 2: working on that wouldn't surprise me, So I mean hopefully

805
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 2: that means, you know, we're still going to get D'Angelo

806
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 2: music that he would want out not just some ship

807
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 2: that a label threw together with fucking old dat tapes.

808
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 2: But he was probably battling pancreatic cancer, so it wouldn't

809
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 2: surprise me if he was planning these projects for after

810
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 2: his death. So you know, I hope we get to

811
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 2: at least here though sometimes so absolutely, but yeah, I

812
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 2: don't really know how to turn turn them round Benzeno.

813
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 5: This was just a.

814
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: Perfect example of sometimes.

815
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 4: The angeloa Benzinos, because I know, I know that's absolutely crazy.

816
00:38:56,120 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 2: It's a perfect example of like of like sometimes honoring

817
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,879
Speaker 2: legends that have passed, like you should just sit out.

818
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 2: Sometimes we don't need to know what, like what influences

819
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 2: you had from him after his death, because I do

820
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 2: believe that Benzino was influenced by Dangelo. All of us were.

821
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 2: But I didn't need to see like exactly how Benzino

822
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 2: was influenced.

823
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 5: Okay, I cannot Okay, no, I don't think.

824
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 4: I don't think Benzino was influenced by D'Angelo. I think

825
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 4: about Benzino's music nothing that I think. This is just

826
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 4: what call it, this is cloud chasing. I think that's

827
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 4: exactly what this is.

828
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 2: He was doing this.

829
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was come on, he was giving Dangelo his

830
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 1: flowers before.

831
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's yeah, he didn't just do that, but that

832
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 5: would be fucking nute.

833
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 1: But oh he didn't just do this. No, it's still nuts.

834
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:52,959
Speaker 1: So he had this in the vault.

835
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 2: Matter of fact, I think it's more disrespectful of doing

836
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 2: this when D'Angelo is alive so he can see it. Why,

837
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 2: but why he is gonna have to put that ship

838
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 2: somewhere on the screen. It's it's the untitled video when

839
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 2: Dangelo is is shirtless with that shadow. But Benzino took

840
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 2: that and put his own spin on it. Oh, this

841
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 2: is with him being shirtless.

842
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 4: This is how does it feel? Yes, Okay, okay, listen, man,

843
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 4: I mean I stayed correctly. This was before this video

844
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 4: was out, before D'Angelo passed. Yes, and I stayed correct

845
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 4: And when maybe Benzino was influenced by No No, he.

846
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 2: Was suggesting, like you know, he posted it when Benzino passed, like, hey,

847
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 2: I've been influenced in my career by him. Here's an

848
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 2: example of how how it made him feel.

849
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: Okay, and I saw it.

850
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 2: I saw Dangelo's son post something of you know, it's

851
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 2: been a tough year.

852
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 1: Thank you guys.

853
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 2: For having me in your thoughts and prayers. I'll definitely

854
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 2: need it, Like keep keep telling me that. Do you

855
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 2: think this made him feel any better? Like something some

856
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 2: tributes should just be like kept in the touch. I'm

857
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 2: sure he read Beyonce's post and was like, oh man,

858
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 2: that's that's really cool to know that my pops, you know,

859
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 2: influenced one of the biggest pop stars ever. Like those

860
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 2: types of things I think help in grief and death.

861
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 1: If I saw this, like.

862
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 2: That's gonna that's gonna delay like funeral plans, I'm gonna

863
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:16,720
Speaker 2: be so angry.

864
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,439
Speaker 5: I honestly, it probably gave him a laugh.

865
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 2: It probably gave him like or him and his dad

866
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,240
Speaker 2: may have laughed at that together before.

867
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: That could have been a good memory.

868
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Like if that was out before his passion,

869
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 4: then yeah, I'm pretty sure D'Angelo laughed at that.

870
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: Absolutely. Yeah.

871
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 2: I also thought it's also crazy to think that James

872
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,839
Speaker 2: got the last recorded D'Angelo record that was put out

873
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 2: font James Samuel for the soundtrack for the Book of Clarence.

874
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:52,399
Speaker 2: It was the Jason Angelo record I Want You For. Yeah,

875
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 2: so that's that was the last one that was put

876
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 2: out while he was alive, which is crazy to think but.

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Speaker 1: Should now out that would make sense though James working.

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00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,879
Speaker 2: With then, Oh absolutely, that makes it. Yeah, I'm sure

879
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 2: they had been talking about that for quite some time,

880
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 2: even before that, because I think James even went in

881
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 2: interviews and like Hope didn't even know about it, and

882
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 2: he just was sending him snippets and I think he

883
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 2: said Hove was on the treadmill sending him bars while

884
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 2: he was running on the treadmill because he had this

885
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,879
Speaker 2: d Angelo record, like, yeah, I'll write for dan.

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00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: You got a d Angelo record? Yeah, I'll get on

887
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 1: that for sure.

888
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 2: That's such a that's such a cool way for hip

889
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 2: hop to age, like a guy in his fifties on

890
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 2: a treadmill writing raps to a d' angelo record.

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00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: Yea for a movie called Book of Clarence.

892
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 2: And then sending them his voice notes to like someone's iPhone.

893
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 2: That absolutely But yeah, I wish you guys wanted to

894
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 2: shame me so much when I thought Dan Angelo was

895
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,359
Speaker 2: down the hall for me those months ago.

896
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:52,320
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I remember that.

897
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, when you kept when you kept conveniently having to

898
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 4: walk to the bathroom, Yeah in the dungeon, that flux. Yeah,

899
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 4: but I that, But then when you told us that,

900
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 4: I understood it though, like I got it. Yeah, I

901
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 4: was like, no, listen, that's that's Dangelo.

902
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: I get it.

903
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,479
Speaker 4: But it's like, there's a way to go about that still,

904
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:13,800
Speaker 4: but I understood it's D'Angelo. Bro as a musician, as anybody,

905
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 4: a producer, as an artist, If you have the opportunity

906
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 4: to be in the same rooms, especially a studio, and

907
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,280
Speaker 4: just talk to DiAngelo and pick his brain about music,

908
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 4: I mean, you definitely have to take that opportunity whenever

909
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 4: you can, because you don't know when you'll have that opportunity.

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00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,800
Speaker 2: Again, and because he had probably the most unique voice

911
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 2: in R and B history, and be outside of like

912
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 2: Marvion Gay, you know, when you're walking past a studio

913
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,919
Speaker 2: and like, all right, that's Dangelo and I've never heard

914
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 2: that song, but what the fuck is going on in there?

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00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 1: Yeah?

916
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 2: But yeah, Benzino, I guess we all we all grieve.

917
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,320
Speaker 1: Different we do, that is very true. Or we do

918
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 1: grieve differently. Absolutely,