1 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: And we back. Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to 2 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: the No Dunes podcast on the Athletic Network. I'm Jay 3 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:19,959 Speaker 1: Skeets along with our super producer jd. We got a 4 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 1: special guest today. Rolling through his Twitter bio, says he 5 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 1: convinced half a million people that he was cool enough 6 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: to watch. That's actually him being humble. He's an NBA 7 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: two K YouTube star. He's one of the hosts of 8 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: the Through the Wire podcast on host so Highlights. He 9 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 1: goes by King of the fourth Quarter. It's Kenny Beacham, Kenny, 10 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 1: what's up? 11 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 2: Man? 12 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: I appreciate you jumping on today. 13 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 3: This is insane. I just got to get an intro 14 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 3: from Jay Skeats. It's crazy to even think about. 15 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, saying seven hundred and fifty thousand doesn't have 16 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 2: the same ring as half Amelia for the bio, so 17 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 2: he's gonna keep it a half a million to eventually 18 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 2: hopefully I can get it to one million. 19 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: Just round up already, man, say a million. No one's 20 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: gonna actually check. Don't want to get there, man. I'm 21 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: so pumped to have you on. It's been something I 22 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,559 Speaker 1: wanted to do for a while now. We were talking 23 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 1: a long time ago. It was talking of maybe getting 24 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: you on a trivia podcast, which I think we have 25 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: to do in the future because you know your stuff. Man, 26 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: I gotta give it to you. I've been doing this 27 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 1: for a long time. The guys I do the show 28 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: with they obviously know a ton about the NBA. But 29 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: I've been watching your videos recently listening to your podcast 30 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,199 Speaker 1: as well, and I'm like, damn, there are other people 31 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: out there that know maybe just as much as we 32 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: do about the NBA. You guys know your stuff. I 33 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: tweeted out earlier this week just how impressed I was 34 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: with your work, ethic, your passion, your content. It is 35 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 1: top notch. 36 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 3: My man, thank you. 37 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: I got so many questions. I want to throw you away, okay, 38 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 1: cause I'm fascinated about how you go about creating your 39 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: content making a living out of it. And we will 40 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: get to the Through the Wire podcast and other sports 41 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: media opportunities opening up for you. But let's start with 42 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: that baby, your NBA two K YouTube channel, Kenny, right 43 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: off the top. I'm not much of a gamer, okay, 44 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: especially anymore. It's passed me by, So can you explain 45 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: to nubes like me? I obviously know what two K 46 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: is I think I'm in the game for crying out. 47 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: Yes you are, Yes, I'm one of the annoying social 48 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: media things that pops up. But can you display, like 49 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: explain the different factions within two K, because I know 50 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: what you do is like my league, or you focus 51 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: prominently on that, and then there's like, I guess there's 52 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 1: my team and or my Yeah, part explain that to me. 53 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, I focus on my league, which the general concept 54 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 2: is being the general manager of a team and trying 55 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 2: to build a championship team. And eventually, I think you 56 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 2: can go for as far as like sixty years before 57 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 2: two K decides Okay, this is. 58 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 3: Enough for you. You can start over now. So that's 59 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 3: why I focus on because I feel. 60 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 2: That the the overall idea of building a team is 61 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 2: so intricate, and I just love the idea of just 62 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 2: putting things together. 63 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 3: And I have like a this fan base that's just 64 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 3: with me. 65 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 2: And when I started making these videos, I had no 66 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 2: idea that other people liked to make trades like I 67 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 2: do and try to build the perfect type of lineups. 68 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 2: And then I found out that there are also NBA 69 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 2: players that love the my league. There are other gms 70 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 2: like Daryl Moury. Daryl Moury is a big fan of 71 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 2: my videos, him and his kids, so he is making 72 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 2: virtual teams while he's trying to also make the Houston 73 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 2: Rockets a really good team. So that's where I usually 74 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 2: make my videos. But there are different aspects, Like so you're. 75 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: Not playing really the game itself, right, You're doing simulations. 76 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm simulations, so I'm building my entire I usually 77 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 2: keep it to like a ten man rotation, and I 78 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 2: simulate the eighty two games and try to figure out 79 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 2: how many wins we can get and then make the 80 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 2: playoffs and try to win a championship, just virtually because 81 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 2: my irail basketball skills aren't that great, so I decided 82 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 2: that I went to be a general manager virtually. 83 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 3: But there are different aspects. 84 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 2: So there's my career where you control yourself, you create 85 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 2: yourself and try to make yourself the best in the world. 86 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 2: And then you can also take that player and play online, 87 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 2: which is the my Park. 88 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 3: So Mike Park, you can squad up. 89 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 2: With two other people or sometimes there's one other person 90 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 2: and play against other people around. 91 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 3: The world with your creative player. Those games are fun. 92 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 3: I'm just not that good at online gaming in general. 93 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 2: So the fact that I am a gamer and I'm 94 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 2: making my job without actually having competition is it's crazy. 95 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the wildest part to me. So you're honestly 96 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: not that good. No, when it comes to actually playing 97 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: two GAY you're being on Yeah, wow, that's amazing. 98 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 3: Not a two K. 99 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 2: I'm better at like the first person shooter type games 100 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 2: than I'm at the actual two K. I don't know, 101 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 2: there's like, there are people that are really good at 102 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 2: It's something about the dribble animations, and I just can't 103 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 2: get into it. So I'm just gonna take a seat 104 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 2: and do simulation and try to be and try to 105 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 2: be Massa Massai. 106 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, sure, it is my president. That's my president 107 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: right there. You know, do you follow the NBA two 108 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 1: K League then with these actual gamers that are playing 109 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 1: the games or is that something you're just not all 110 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: that interested. 111 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 2: I tried to the first season because I actually had 112 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 2: a friend that was drafted to the Knicks and they 113 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 2: went on to win a championship. 114 00:04:57,839 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 3: But after that first season. 115 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 2: I kind of fell out because he retired from gaming completely, 116 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 2: which is kind of weird to say. But since then 117 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 2: not too much. I'll try to come in every once 118 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 2: in a while to talk into like they do Twitch, 119 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 2: so there's a chat and usually some of the people 120 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 2: inside the chat know who I am because of my name, 121 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 2: So I'll come in and talk to some people, watch 122 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 2: a game or two, but I can tell you who 123 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 2: is the best team in the league right now and 124 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 2: who's the worst, because I'm not that in tune with it. 125 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 1: Did you also just say the Knicks won a championship and. 126 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 3: Then virtual championship? Yeah? 127 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: I thought this was supposed to be realistic. That's okay. 128 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 1: So yeah, like you said, you're focusing on my league, 129 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: the simulation basically. Yeah, like you said, being a GM, 130 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: you do all these really cool and really creative challenges. 131 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 1: I guess the best way to call them right, Like recently, 132 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: I know you've done like a Big three rebuilding challenge, 133 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 1: so you got to have like really, you know, guys 134 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: over ninety in the game, you gotta get three of 135 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: them like you were the Heatles with Lebron, Wade and 136 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: Botch exactly done like an alphabet. Rebuilding challenges. 137 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 3: So many challenges, so I look you, what's your favorite 138 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 3: so far? 139 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 2: My favorite ish I created myself and made myself like 140 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 2: the star player of a franchise. 141 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 3: Okay, and again I'm not very good. 142 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 2: So I tried to make myself as realistic to myself 143 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 2: as possible. So in real life I'm five to seven, 144 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 2: so my creative player was also five to seven. In 145 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 2: real life, I can't hit a jump shot, so my 146 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 2: two K player couldn't hit a jump shot. I did 147 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 2: that and tried to build a championship, and honestly, I 148 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 2: was the five to seven point guard with three other stars, 149 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 2: where I averaged like six points per game. 150 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 3: But it was Paul George doing all the scoring. 151 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 2: It was really Gobert protecting the paint, and that was 152 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 2: like one of my favorite challenges. But I found out 153 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 2: pretty early with doing these videos that if you don't 154 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 2: do some type of challenge attached, then most people won't 155 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 2: tune in. So doing a normal Utah Jazz rebuild, it's 156 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 2: going to attract Utah Jazz fans. But if I throw 157 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 2: a little challenge into it, then it's more broader to uh, 158 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:56,799 Speaker 2: to just anybody. 159 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, how do you come up with all these ideas? 160 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 1: I assume a lot of your fans are throwing them 161 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 1: out there In comments across social media, because yes, like 162 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: you've done, I don't know hundreds of these hundreds of them. 163 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I do have like a brainstorm a period 164 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 2: at the beginning of every week where I try. 165 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 3: To come up with my own challenges. And I am lucky. 166 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,239 Speaker 2: Enough that my fan base does give out different ideas. 167 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 2: So I can just roam through my YouTube comments section 168 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 2: or go to my Twitter mansions and I have five 169 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 2: or six suggestions and I can try. 170 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 3: To pick which one I believe is going to reach 171 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 3: a big audience. 172 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,239 Speaker 2: Because at the end of the day, that's that's pretty 173 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 2: much what we do it for, trying to get our 174 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 2: videos in front of more people. 175 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: What made you decide to launch a YouTube channel? And 176 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: for somebody that's new to you, like, how long have 177 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: you been doing this before? 178 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 3: Now? 179 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 2: My first YouTube video was twenty eleven, OK, so I've 180 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,679 Speaker 2: been doing it for almost a decade now, and I 181 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 2: jumped into it basically as as a hobby. 182 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 3: Me and two other friends. 183 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 2: We all got the equipment together and we're like, we're 184 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 2: gonna We're gonna build our version of a Big Three. 185 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 3: Like there are other YouTube creators out. 186 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 2: There that had like friends that they continued to make 187 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 2: videos with and after maybe a year, my other two 188 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 2: friends dropped out and they were like, you know, it's just. 189 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 3: Not for them. But I just continued to do it 190 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 3: and continue to do it, and then. 191 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 2: I basically found out that I had a love for 192 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 2: it and it became a hobby the passion into now 193 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 2: a job like it took maybe six years before I 194 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 2: got my first paycheck. Wow, But when I got it, 195 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, now I can start to focus 196 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 2: on this more. 197 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 3: And eventually after that it became my full time job. 198 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: Like you said, you started in twenty eleven, sounded like 199 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: you just did it for fun at first, and then 200 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, I really like this. When did it 201 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: click that you were like, Wow, I could maybe make 202 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: this into a living. There's something here, you know what 203 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: I mean. 204 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 2: So it was right after I graduated high school in 205 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 2: twenty fifteen, and then that was I was working. I 206 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 2: don't know if you guys have them in Atlanta, but 207 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 2: there's a store named Fruitful Yield. 208 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 3: It's similar to like a vitamin shop. 209 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 2: Okay, So I was working at the vitamin shop and 210 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 2: I got a paycheck from YouTube for about four hundred 211 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 2: dollars and that was basically my same paycheck on my 212 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 2: regular job. It's like, Okay, my dad won't like this, 213 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 2: but I think I think I'm gonna leave my job 214 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 2: here to focus on YouTube. 215 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:10,719 Speaker 3: And I did that, and then my next paycheck was 216 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 3: like two hundred bucks, and I was. 217 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 2: Like, oh, exactly, I made a mistake. 218 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 3: But I'm lucky enough that my dad was like on 219 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 3: my side the entire time. 220 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 2: He had no idea what I was doing or what 221 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 2: it was turning into. And then maybe six months down 222 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 2: the line, I had a paycheck worth eight hundred dollars, 223 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 2: and then it kept going up and up, and then 224 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 2: by the time of twenty seventeen, I had enough money 225 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 2: to move out and get my own place, and then 226 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 2: it's just been continuing to grow since. 227 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:39,079 Speaker 3: Then. 228 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: Take us through your like production schedule then, I mean 229 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: you said, at the beginning of the week, you sit down, Okay, 230 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:46,959 Speaker 1: what could I maybe do this week? That sounds like 231 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: very similar to what we do here at No Dunks. 232 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 1: Have that little brainstorm and special all right, start, you know, 233 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: filling in the calendar. We'll do oh one on one 234 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:55,319 Speaker 1: with Kenny. That'd be cool. We'll do a beach step 235 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: and whatever. What's like a week like I guess, but 236 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: even more specifically like a day like for you, because 237 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,959 Speaker 1: if you pump out the content, my man, like, I 238 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: know how much work goes into this stuff. I assume 239 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: a lot of people do watching your videos, like it's 240 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 1: not just you talking. I mean, there's a lot of 241 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: editing going along along with the idea itself and executing it. 242 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: So take me through sort of a day if you can. 243 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 2: Like yeah, So I start off on Mondays and that's 244 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 2: where I have this brainstorming session. I'll come down to 245 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 2: my basement, which is like my work area, and I'll 246 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 2: sit here with like a it used to be a journal, 247 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 2: but now I'm just using like docs and type it 248 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 2: in different ideas. And what I would do is take 249 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 2: those ideas that I've come up with and send them 250 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 2: to like my friends group to at like hey, would 251 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 2: you watch this video? 252 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 3: And they'll say yes or no. 253 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 2: And I'm lucky enough that my friends will be completely 254 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 2: honest with me, like Kenny, that's a that's a terrible idea. 255 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 3: How about you scratched that one? 256 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 2: And after Monday I usually come up with three four 257 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 2: video ideas and that's enough for me to go down 258 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,959 Speaker 2: to the basement and start recording, and I record in 259 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 2: this entire video. Each video usually takes like an hour 260 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 2: maybe two to actually record, and then I'm onto the 261 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 2: editing session. And I used to hire editors. I mean, 262 00:10:58,480 --> 00:10:59,719 Speaker 2: I did it for like a week, and I just 263 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 2: hate it not being a complete control. Sure, it's like 264 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna I'm gonna do it myself. And then 265 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 2: you're saving money too because you don't have to pay anybody. 266 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,719 Speaker 2: So I'll record, I'll edit that video, and I get 267 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 2: it up, spend some time with my girlfriend because though 268 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 2: I'm a busy guy, but I do have to save 269 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 2: some time for the girlfriend or she'll get pretty upset. 270 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 3: And then we're back to work. 271 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 2: So it's no real like, hey, every day, I work 272 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 2: from twelve to four. Sometimes I'm working from midnight to two, 273 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 2: and then come back in the morning to finish things up. 274 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 2: And I have that luxury because I am basically working 275 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 2: for myself at this point. 276 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: Did you teach yourself? Yeah, how to edit and all that. 277 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, everything I taught myself. Basically you can find anything 278 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 2: on YouTube, right yep. So I've switched through like four 279 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 2: or five different editing programs before I found one that 280 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 2: I really loved, and then I went through, like there's 281 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 2: a YouTube channel that had like basically courses editing one 282 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 2: O one, one O two, one O three, and I've 283 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 2: watched the entire series. And then that's how I got 284 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 2: to the point I am. And I wouldn't even say 285 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 2: I'm really a good editor. I think I'm just serviceable. 286 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 2: I know the guy that I I hired for that 287 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 2: one week, he was insane, and if it wasn't for 288 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,839 Speaker 2: me just not liking the idea of not being in 289 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:08,839 Speaker 2: complete control, he would still be working. 290 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 3: For me right now. 291 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: So he was talented. 292 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 3: He was very talented. 293 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: You just wanted to have your fingerprints all over I 294 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: get that. Have you ever started a video then an 295 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 1: idea and be like halfway through like this sucks. 296 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 3: This all the time. 297 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 2: That's like the saying that I'm my own biggest critic. 298 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of people have that mindset, 299 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 2: and it's completely true. So what I did to stop 300 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 2: that is that if I feel halfway through that this 301 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 2: is not going to be a good video, I'll try 302 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 2: to power through it. I'll edit it and send it 303 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 2: to the group chat, Hey is this a bad video? 304 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 2: Or am I tripping, and a lot of times I'll 305 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 2: be like, no, that's actually a pretty good video, so 306 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 2: just publish it. But there have been times where like 307 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 2: your energy's off or sure, yeah it's that's just. 308 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 3: The way it is. 309 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 2: And again, my friends are like ridiculously honest with me, 310 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 2: and that's exactly what I need. 311 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: That's good And I'm sure though, even all that said, 312 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: trying to like go through that process of having your 313 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: friends almost check it first before you post it, I 314 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,199 Speaker 1: bet tell me if I'm wrong. There's times where you're like, 315 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: all right, this one's not my best work. Let's throw 316 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: it up and see what happens. And maybe those are 317 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: the ones that obviously blow up for some reason or 318 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: get my dues. 319 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 2: Does that have a viewed video? It has like two 320 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,839 Speaker 2: million views. It was just something very rand. I took 321 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 2: a quiz, right, I took a quiz where I was 322 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 2: there was two NBA logos. One was slightly off and 323 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 2: one was the right one. Okay, so yeah, I just 324 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 2: I did that in my parents' house and I had 325 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 2: no idea that it was gonna do the numbers that 326 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 2: it did. But at this time, there was no like 327 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 2: quiz community on YouTube. So once I made that video, 328 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 2: and I think I did pretty bad on it. It 329 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 2: was just like very subtle differences between the logos. 330 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 3: It was hard to tell. 331 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're talking like little color changes exact nixt logo, 332 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: like oh there's a little orange there and then there 333 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 1: isn't on this one. Which one's the right one? 334 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. 335 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 2: So I put that video up and I think I 336 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 2: went to sleep or I went to work, and that 337 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 2: was like, at that time, it was my most few video. 338 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:54,559 Speaker 3: I was like, whoa. 339 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 2: And then it continued to hit the YouTube recommendation, then 340 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 2: it hit a YouTube trending page and now send that 341 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 2: two million views. 342 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 3: But that was not a video that I thought in 343 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:05,439 Speaker 3: my mind was going to do anything right. 344 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,719 Speaker 2: I also have videos I'm like, okay, this is the 345 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 2: way go viral and its tanks and it's just like 346 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 2: it's so heartbreaking. 347 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: That's the Internet for you right there in a nutshell. 348 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: Yeah you do. I'm glad you brought that up, that 349 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: the trivia one, because you do. I notice a lot 350 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: more than just the two K videos. You know, these 351 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: trivia videos you do, like the the fifteen dollars you 352 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: have to draft the team type videos and reaction videos 353 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: it feels like you're doing a lot more recently, like 354 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: to clips and maybe articles. Was that something you started 355 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: from the jump or was that something you like started 356 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: to fold in to the rest of the two K videos, 357 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. 358 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 3: So, yeah, I didn't start that from the jump at all. 359 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 2: One thing that my dad has always taught me is like, 360 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 2: you want to try to diversify your income, And I 361 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 2: guess that's what I'm doing because I know that there's 362 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 2: a larger market out there of NBA fans that don't 363 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 2: watch two K videos. So in that case, okay, let 364 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 2: me react to this article or let me just send 365 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 2: down and talk about I think the top ten players 366 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 2: in the NBA are right now. So I'm just trying 367 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 2: to grow my name and my brand outside of the 368 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 2: gaming world. And yeah, that's where it just recently started, 369 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 2: maybe a year or two ago, because until then I 370 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 2: was just, hey, I'm a gamer, I'm a gamer. 371 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 3: But now it's like, I want to be so much 372 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 3: more than that. 373 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: Why do you think your videos resonate so much with fans? Well, like, 374 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: if you had to pick one or two things, I. 375 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 2: Think I think a lot of people and this is 376 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 2: what the general manager over a house of highlights, is 377 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 2: said to me, A lot of people see part of 378 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 2: themselves in me. Whether it's because I'm also pretty young 379 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 2: or it's just the smile, I don't. I literally don't know. 380 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: I think it's because your enthusiasm. I really do. And 381 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: like I said, watching your videos, I don't. I mean, 382 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: I know what's going on because you're explaining it, and 383 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: I know two K, I'm not an idiot, but I'm like, like, 384 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: I don't really have that much fastest into this, but 385 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: it's like they I can't stop watching them because your 386 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: enthusiasm does come across the screen. That's why I think 387 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: the number one thing, Like a part of that is 388 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: like you're sort of and we've always gotten this compliment 389 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: over the long time. Now too, is like you're just 390 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: being yourself. You're being real, You're not putting on an act. 391 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: Even just now, this is the first time I've ever 392 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: talked to you in person. You're basically exactly the same 393 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: as you are in the video, and that does come through, 394 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: I think to people. So that would that would be 395 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: my reasoning why you do these crazy numbers. 396 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 2: That is very important to me too, because there are 397 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 2: people in like the community that that do have characters 398 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 2: right with their videos, and it's nothing wrong with that 399 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 2: because people want to see those characters. But I've always 400 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 2: wanted to be as true to myself as possible, and 401 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 2: that is something that people say when they meet me 402 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 2: in public, like, hey, this is the candy that I 403 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 2: saw in the video. Like, I just try to be 404 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 2: myself in those videos, and it's been working out pretty well. 405 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: It's working for sure. You said you're essentially playing GM 406 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: in a lot of these videos, especially the my League stuff. 407 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: You know, I think there was one I saw your 408 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: I think it's a little tongue in cheek, but you're saying, hey, Pistons, 409 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: this is why you should hire me for Yeah, let 410 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: me rebuild your franchise, let me blow it up and 411 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: start it over, and here's what will be my resume, 412 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: so to speak. Do you have any desire in all 413 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 1: honesty to follow that path in real life, any sort 414 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: of getting into basketball management or No? 415 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 3: No, not really. 416 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 2: It was more like, there's like memes that are attached 417 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 2: to my channel, and that was one of them. I 418 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 2: did a similar thing when the Bulls were looking for 419 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 2: a new gender manages. 420 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 3: I am a diehard Bulls fan. 421 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:21,360 Speaker 2: So whenever there's like a GM opportunity, I just see 422 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 2: it as a good time to make a video that 423 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 2: will get good numbers. 424 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 3: But mostly I want to be in sports media more 425 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 3: than anything. 426 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 2: Okay, the idea of being a gener manager, I feel 427 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 2: like there's just so much that goes into it that 428 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 2: I could not keep up with it. 429 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't even know where you start with that 430 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: exact type of job. I mean, I'm sure there's classes 431 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: you'd want to take, you'd obviously want to you'd have 432 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 1: to start at the bottom. I'm sure within a franchise 433 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. But I was just curious because 434 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: I mean, you obviously I thought that was the answer. 435 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: I mean, like, oh, what an opportunity to make this video, 436 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: But you never know, it might be something very young enough. 437 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: Why couldn't you be beside twenty years from now exactly? 438 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 2: But no, I just it's something about the media side 439 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 2: that I love so much more then the extual idea 440 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 2: of trying to build a team. 441 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: You talked about your production sort of schedule, what a 442 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 1: day's like. Did you have a goal early on and 443 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: even to this day of like a video a day 444 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,439 Speaker 1: or whatever it is. Like you know, like at the 445 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: beginning of that week, you're like, I want to have 446 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 1: X amount of things up or is it just sort 447 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: of flying by the seat of your pants a little bit? 448 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: But is there like structure to that level? You know 449 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 1: what I mean? 450 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 2: Sometimes there is structure, sometimes there isn't. I feel like 451 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 2: the days or the weeks where I don't put a 452 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 2: goal on myself, I'm usually the most productive because somehow 453 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 2: I get in my head like, oh I wanted five videos, 454 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 2: but somehow I've only got three done. 455 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 3: I failed this week. 456 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 2: So instead I'm just like, Okay, can I get something 457 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 2: done today? If I can, then let's do it. If 458 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 2: I can't, then no harm done? 459 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: Right. What's your favorite part about creating these two K 460 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 1: videos or any of your videos? 461 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 3: For that, it's a flexibility. Mostly. I just love being 462 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 3: able to decide. 463 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 2: When I do upload and when I don't upload. Uh, 464 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,640 Speaker 2: it's just it's really just the freedom of it. 465 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: Are you like one of these guys that's like making 466 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: these videos at like three in the morning, Like, are. 467 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 2: I feel I feel like I am my best version 468 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:15,439 Speaker 2: of myself when I need sleep. 469 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 3: I don't know if that's because. 470 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: You're like, well, just a little loose, a little loopy. 471 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's just something about it. 472 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 2: I love recording around those times of the day, but 473 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 2: it doesn't always work that way. 474 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 3: You know. Sometimes I do want to most of the times, I. 475 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 2: Do want to go to bed with my girlfriend, you know, 476 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 2: so we can get to bed together. 477 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 3: But just something about the three am two am. 478 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 2: Time, it's just like it's still myself, but it's just 479 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 2: maybe a little bit more loopier version of myself. 480 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 3: And then those are the times where like people clip. 481 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 2: Parts of my videos and tweet them out and I'm like, 482 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 2: did I really see it? 483 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 4: Say that? 484 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's when the memes are created exactly exactly. What's 485 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: your least favorite part of your of your job, which 486 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: this is your job, What's something we're just like at times, 487 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,199 Speaker 1: you're like, this is a little taxing because we I mean, 488 00:19:58,240 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: as much as we all love our jobs, and you 489 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 1: and I have pretty incredible jobs, you know, there are 490 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 1: parts that you don't like about it. Sometimes. What would 491 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:04,360 Speaker 1: you tha. 492 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 2: Like, uh, the brainstorm an idea part, because there are 493 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 2: times where there's not much for me to to create, 494 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 2: especially like this time of the year, because we're getting 495 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 2: to the point where the next version of two K 496 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 2: is going to come out. So like all of the 497 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 2: challenges or the ideas that I have are like run low. 498 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 2: And I mean again, I'm lucky that like my fans 499 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 2: can send me ideas. But sometimes it's just hard to say, 500 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 2: like hey, if I if I want to do this 501 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 2: much this minute videos a week, it's hard to sometimes 502 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,239 Speaker 2: come up with that. And then I've had times I'm like, 503 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 2: I'm just going to take a week off, you know, 504 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 2: just just refresh. 505 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to in anything creative. I think you 506 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 1: have to do that. And this one this has been 507 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: a weird season probably for you as well with the 508 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 1: NBA season because you and we'll get to you through 509 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,360 Speaker 1: the Wire podcast, but it's like we've had no time off. 510 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 1: I mean, you're still creating podcasts through the Wire. I 511 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: know that, as are we with no it's really weird. 512 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 1: What what's the best random generated name you've ever come 513 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: across in two command? 514 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 2: Jadedan's probably not gonna like this, you may have to 515 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 2: bleep it, go ahead, but there is a player named 516 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 2: Dick Rose. 517 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 1: I think, okay Rose, all right, brother of Derek. 518 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 3: I guess exactly. So I traded for him and it 519 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 3: was like a package deal. 520 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 2: I traded two players for two players, and I think 521 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 2: the main person I was traded for was someone along 522 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 2: the lines of Shay Gilges Alexander and this guy Dick 523 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 2: Rose is just a part of it. 524 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 3: And I just saw d Rose. 525 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 2: Sometimes two K has it where you can't see the 526 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 2: picture that's generated with the player. 527 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:40,120 Speaker 3: So my mind, I just. 528 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 2: Picked up Dereck Rose. He's my favorite player of all time. 529 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 2: So I got Alexander and Dereck Rose. But instead I 530 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:49,679 Speaker 2: look at my roster, there's a point guard named Dick Rose, 531 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 2: and I'm like, well, this is uh, this is not 532 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 2: what I expected. 533 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 3: And then that itself became a. 534 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 2: Huge meme on my channel, where like people who made 535 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 2: Twitter accounts dedicated to this Dick Rose. 536 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's only a recent video too. I don't know 537 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: if it was recent. I can't keep tracking all your videos. 538 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: But instead of Reggie Miller, it was like Riggy Miller, 539 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: that's just an error in the game. Or was there 540 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: another guy? 541 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 3: Yeah? 542 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 2: So like two K, you can download rosters that other 543 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 2: people have created, Okay, And Reggie Miller is not a 544 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 2: guy that has signed on his rights to two K, 545 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 2: so there's he hasn't been in the game two early 546 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 2: two thousands, so you can download a roster. If you 547 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 2: want the all time greatest pacer lineup, you need Reggie Miller. 548 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 2: So some guy created his version of Reggie Miller but 549 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 2: spelled it riggy gotcha. 550 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 3: And then that also became a huge meme with a channel. 551 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: That's very funny. It feels like correct me if I'm 552 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 1: wrong yourself and the NBA two K community have like 553 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: a love hate relationship. 554 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 3: Oh yes with the game. 555 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, why is that? Like, you guys obviously love it. 556 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 1: You're playing it all the time, You're doing what you do, 557 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: But there does seem to be like like fix this, 558 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: change this. Why don't you guys listen to us? Is 559 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: that is that fair? 560 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 2: It's very fair? And the reason is that they have 561 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 2: corn at the market right it's this is the only 562 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 2: NBA related basketball game there is. They had a little 563 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 2: bit of competition with NBA Live, but eventually NBA Live 564 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 2: decided to stop making what we call simulation version of 565 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 2: basketball and start making more like NBA Street type games 566 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 2: where it's just like super fun or NBA Jam type games, 567 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 2: and two K is the only simulation version. So they 568 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 2: could basically put out any type of product in US. 569 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 2: NBA fans that love playing video games are gonna buy 570 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,199 Speaker 2: that version because it's the only version of basketball we 571 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 2: really have, And because of that, we feel like us 572 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 2: as creators and the people that are also in the community, 573 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 2: we feel like there's a lot of things that could 574 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 2: be better about the game that maybe the company isn't 575 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 2: really taken care of. 576 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: Do you think they're receptive to complaints or suggestions. No, 577 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: they're like are they just it's like, guys, you're gonna 578 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: buy the game, Just relax. 579 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 3: That's the way we feel. 580 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 2: We feel like they just they don't really love the criticism, 581 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 2: like they're I don't know. 582 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 3: I want to say. Community manager's name is Ronnie. Ronnie Tka. 583 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 3: You've seen him in like the All Star games and 584 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 3: things like that. 585 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 2: He has a way of like he also live streams, 586 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 2: and people go into his live stream to talk about, hey, 587 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 2: this creator said this about the game, and he'll somehow 588 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 2: insult the creator that says of them about the game 589 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 2: instead of trying to to really change what the things 590 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 2: that are wrong with the game. But ultimately, I can 591 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 2: I can say the Game of two K is fun. 592 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 2: I love it. It's just could be a lot better. 593 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 2: Just the point that a lot of us creators are 594 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 2: trying to. 595 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 1: Say, Yeah, there's one video in particular that I watched 596 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: where you were like giving suggestions things you would change, 597 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 1: things that could be better in terms of the simulation 598 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. I actually laughed out loud because 599 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,679 Speaker 1: I had no idea. No one let me know about this, 600 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: by the way, so I'm gonna be a little upset 601 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: with all the listeners that also watch you. But you 602 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 1: were like, you know, we got this social media part 603 00:24:58,200 --> 00:24:59,959 Speaker 1: of the game. I like Jay Skeetz, but I don't need 604 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: know what virtual Jay Skeets thinks of my team. Yeah, 605 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 1: laughed out loud, like. 606 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 2: It'll be tweets like, uh, let's say Jimmy Butler had 607 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 2: twenty five, It'll be Jay skeets Jimmy Butler was on 608 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 2: fire last night. 609 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 3: And it's cool, delightful, it's cool. 610 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 2: But it's just like nobody really goes over to the 611 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 2: social media tab to read what you and Task is 612 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 2: in there as well. 613 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think all the guys, I think Trey is 614 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: for sure. I don't know about Lely, but he might 615 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 1: be Yeah. 616 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, he might be as well, so it's actually it's 617 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 2: actually cool to see that, but it's just. 618 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 3: Not something that a lot of us really pay attention to. 619 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: No, see, that's you're right, it's cool the first time. 620 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe even that's embellishment, but it's like the first time, 621 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: Oh that's cool, and then you do not care ever 622 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 1: again to see a fake tweet from a virtual me 623 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: talking about a virtual team. 624 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 3: If it was more insightful, then I wouldn't mind. 625 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 1: You know, you're putting it on me. 626 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 3: You know, it's just with his magic Johnson side tweets. 627 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 1: Love to write my own tweets, send them to rounding two. 628 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: Start putting this in the game. This is what I 629 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: would say, dropping bombs and people get excited. Oh my god, 630 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 1: you said you play or you did? Do you play 631 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 1: other games? 632 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 3: Yeah? 633 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 2: So right now into into the Call of Duty war zones, 634 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 2: just because that's like the number one thing I find 635 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 2: myself playing, Like mL BE the show a lot, even 636 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 2: though I'm not a big baseball fan. It's just something 637 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 2: about the game that's pretty fun. But those are pretty 638 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 2: much it. I feel like most of the time i'm online, 639 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 2: I'm mostly just talking to my friends and what we 640 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 2: consider like the Xbox Party more than actually gaming. 641 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: Do you like Twitch this stuff when you play those 642 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: games or are used to. 643 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 2: But then Twitch told me that that they weren't gonna 644 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 2: partner me, and that kind of turned me off to 645 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 2: the entire platform. 646 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 1: Honestly, Yeah, well, and what does that mean for someone 647 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: that really. 648 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 2: Has So there's two different versions of I guess three. 649 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 2: It's just like a normal streamer. There's an affiliate and 650 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 2: then there's a partner. The partner you get like the 651 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 2: check mark, and then the reason I wanted to be 652 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 2: a partner, it's not for the lousy check mark, but 653 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 2: mostly because you can have up to I. 654 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 3: Think thirty emotes. 655 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 2: So like right now on my Twitch channel, there's like 656 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 2: four emotes where it's like, hey, if someone subscribed to 657 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 2: the channel, you put this in chat. But basically, what 658 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 2: I wanted to do was have these thirty different emotes 659 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 2: that are very where you can use across the Twitch 660 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 2: platform that most people know that you're coming from my channel, right, 661 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,679 Speaker 2: And I had so many ideas, but Twitch told me no. 662 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 3: And you know what, I'm not mad at Twitch. 663 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 2: It's just like it's a grind to become a partner 664 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 2: more than anything, gotcha and maybe I'm kind of spoiled 665 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 2: that like every other platform, like I was TikTok verified 666 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,400 Speaker 2: without even posting a TikTok you know, So maybe I'm 667 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 2: spoiled by that. 668 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 3: The twitch is like, no, you have to put a 669 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:45,919 Speaker 3: little bit more time into. 670 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: But I'm Kenny, God damn it, partner me. Well that's 671 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,479 Speaker 1: their loss. It sounds like they're a loss. Yeah, all right, 672 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: lots more with Kenny. After a quick word from our sponsor. 673 00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 4: I don't know about you guys, but I haven't been 674 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 4: motivated to tend to my hygiene the last couple months. 675 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 4: Hadn't washed my hair in weeks. And then I got 676 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:14,360 Speaker 4: my goodies from Hawthorn. Body wash got me smelling tangy, 677 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 4: shave butter moisturizer got the face skin all bouncy, and 678 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 4: the shampoo conditioner combo has my hair feeling soft. I 679 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 4: actually can't remember the last time I conditioned my hair, 680 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 4: but it was so fluffy. 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You guys are fun. 702 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 3: We all are. 703 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 2: So that's kind of where our friendship grew. So we've 704 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 2: met each other high school. Freshman year, we played on 705 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 2: the same basketball team, but after the basketball season was over, 706 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,479 Speaker 2: we didn't really stay in connections with each other until 707 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 2: we found out that we all had an Xbox and 708 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 2: then we. 709 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 3: Started playing some games together. 710 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 2: Then now we get to the point where like I'll 711 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 2: wake up in the morning, if i don't have any 712 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 2: work to do, then I'll hop on Xbox and hey, 713 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 2: and my friend Mike is there, Pierre is there, and 714 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 2: they will all just sit there even if we're not 715 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 2: actually playing games, just kind of just like talking to 716 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 2: your friends. So our entire relationship. It's like, we give 717 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 2: thanks to Xbox for honestly. 718 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: Wow, yeah wow, I mean your yeah, your relationship and 719 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: then maybe even now into your careers with that exactly, 720 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 1: you guys getting paid from house to highlights. Who's the 721 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: best gamer of the. 722 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 3: Bunch, It's definitely me. 723 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 2: I'm just I'm just saying if we looked at statistics 724 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 2: from all the games we played, I would have the 725 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 2: best statistics and every one of them, every one of them. 726 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: Who's the worst? 727 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 2: Then I would say Derek is the worst, mostly because 728 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 2: he's the one that probably plays the least. Okay, it's 729 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 2: just it takes a lot of time to be okay 730 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 2: at some of the games. 731 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 3: And again I'm not good at the game, so that 732 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 3: tells you that they're even worse. 733 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 2: So it's just I'm probably just have the most time 734 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 2: played in comparison to all of them. 735 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: How long have you guys been doing the Through the 736 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 1: Wider podcast? Now it's been you've been, it's been a minute. 737 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 3: It's been. 738 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 2: This is our third season, this is our third NBA 739 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 2: season covering. It started off where we just where we 740 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 2: had a group chat again where we just debate basketball. 741 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 2: And one thing that we found out is that me 742 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 2: and Pierre, who's actually my cousin, we disagree on so 743 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 2: many things right. And I had already had this platform 744 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 2: for YouTube. I think at this time I had like 745 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 2: two hundred thousand subscribers, and I just hit the group 746 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 2: chat like, hey, do you want you guys want to 747 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 2: record a podcast? 748 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 3: And they said yeah. 749 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 2: So literally that day I went out to buy all 750 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 2: the microphone equipment. I bought the mixers, I bought everything 751 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 2: necessary for us to actually start the podcast, because once 752 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 2: I had a yes, I wanted to make sure that 753 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 2: nobody decided to change their mind. When they saw me 754 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 2: by the equipment, they knew it was time to get 755 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 2: to work. 756 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: And that then snowballed into you getting you know, basically 757 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: picked up by House of Highlights to do their official podcast. 758 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 1: You guys do a video version as well. You post 759 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: that You've obviously I assume liked that experience. 760 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 3: It's going well amazing. 761 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, do you have help with that then, Kenny? Or 762 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: is that like, are you the JD of that? 763 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 3: I am the j D of the post? 764 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: Don't They offered it to us. 765 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 2: We we kind of decided to turn it down. I 766 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 2: don't remember why we decided to. It was like very 767 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 2: early in the stages with House of Highlights, but somehow 768 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 2: we decided that, hey, Kenny could just do it all himself, 769 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 2: and maybe it's better for a House of Highlights. They 770 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 2: don't have to have another guy onto the team. But 771 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 2: it's it's the House of Highlights. Connection has been more 772 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 2: than I could have asked for. The team that they 773 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 2: built over there is better than any team I've ever seen. 774 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 2: We have a diverse group and everybody just plays their 775 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 2: role perfectly. And I give I give a lot of 776 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 2: credit that to to Doug, the general manager. He found 777 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 2: us on the ground floor with our podcasts and the 778 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 2: story goes. He emailed me like, hey, Kenny, like your channel, 779 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 2: love your podcast from GM of House of Highlights. I'm like, okay, 780 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 2: that's that's cool, but like it's it left the door 781 00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 2: open to so many questions. Are they listening to the 782 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 2: podcas in the offices or is he just a personal fan. 783 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 2: So I just replied back, like, thank you very much. 784 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 2: I love House of Highlights because everyone loves House of Highlights. 785 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 2: It's like one of the best accounts in the world. 786 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 2: And then a few months go past and I'm listening 787 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 2: to jaj Reddick's podcast. Jaja Reddick had a podcast where 788 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 2: he had Omar Raja, who is the founder of House 789 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 2: of Highlights, on it, and in that podcast, Omar mentioned 790 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 2: that they're about to branch off into the YouTube world 791 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 2: because at this point they were just an Instagram accountant. 792 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 2: So I'm like, okay, I have this YouTube channel. I've 793 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 2: already been in contact with the general manager of the company. 794 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 2: So then I sat down with my guys. I'm like, okay, 795 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 2: we need to formulate this email to let them know 796 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 2: that we want to be a part of this this 797 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 2: YouTube team. Whatever they decide to do with YouTube, we 798 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 2: can do that. So we formulate this whole email because 799 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 2: at this point we were just an audio podcast, you know, 800 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 2: we didn't have the visuals. So in the email, I 801 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 2: tell Doug like, hey, I just bought the camera equipment. 802 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 2: We're about to go full video. I have experience with 803 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 2: making YouTube videos. Here's my resumes. You already all you know, 804 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 2: if you're a fan of the channel, we would love 805 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 2: to work together. And then we got to email back 806 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 2: maybe a week later, He's like, let's hop on a call, 807 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 2: and it. 808 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 1: Was wow, that was it. Wow, that's pretty amazing. So 809 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 1: now three years in then with House of Highlights. 810 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, sortlights yeah. 811 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 1: Right right right, and the video portion, that's when that 812 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,319 Speaker 1: kicked off because you said I do this, you're going 813 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 1: into YouTube or you want to expand into it. We 814 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,720 Speaker 1: could be like sort of the official podcast right exactly 815 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: of the thing. That's incredible. So do the other guys 816 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 1: Pierre Mike there, like is that their job? Are they 817 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 1: like they twenty four to seven podcasters with Houseglights or 818 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 1: maybe they do other things. 819 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 2: I don't know, they are twenty four seven podcasters. Derek 820 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 2: has like he does so many different jobs. He did 821 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,399 Speaker 2: like door Dash Uber. He's just he's just a guy 822 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 2: that needs to stay busy, which is which is really cool. 823 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 2: So he just had a bunch of different jobs. But 824 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 2: the rest just podcasts. You know, we have our brainstorm 825 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 2: sessions for each episode. We record each episode and that's it. 826 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 1: Okay, well tell me this. Do I know your friends? 827 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 1: I'm friend with the guys I do the show with. 828 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: But it doesn't matter if you're friends, and maybe even 829 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:07,359 Speaker 1: it's heightened when you're friends in a creative you know, 830 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 1: element in a creative setting making a podcast, that's what 831 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 1: that is. I mean, are there are there beefs of 832 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 1: like what we should talk about, you know, how we 833 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 1: should go about it? You know, like that must happen, right. 834 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just when you have so many different personalities 835 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 2: trying to have one end goal, it's gonna happen. We 836 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 2: butt hits all the time on the route that we 837 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 2: want to have for each episode, but we usually since 838 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 2: there's four of us, we just somehow find a way 839 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 2: to find a a middle ground to whatever topic or 840 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 2: if this is where we're covering, this isn't newsworthy, but 841 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 2: this is Those are just like the the overall things that, 842 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 2: like you said, you go through as well, but we 843 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 2: just always find a way to make it work, you know, 844 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 2: and even sometimes those like heated conversations transfer over to 845 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 2: the podcast and I think that's those are the ones 846 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 2: that the fans love the most when we're actually like 847 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,240 Speaker 2: in heated debate all. 848 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 1: One hundred percent, I mean against speaking from experience, people 849 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,839 Speaker 1: love going du leean tasks. Hate each other, well, they 850 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 1: don't hate other. Well, they were really going at it 851 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 1: about Ben Simmons or whoever you know, and you're like, yeah, 852 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 1: they were arguing about, you know, their opinions on the 853 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,760 Speaker 1: team or a player, and it's like, you're right. People 854 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 1: love that stuff. I mean again, that's just like that's 855 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,279 Speaker 1: what everybody does with their buddies anyway, exactly. You know, 856 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 1: in talking hoops, people get they're opinionated, they're fired up. 857 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 1: How dare you say this? Let me tell you why 858 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 1: you're wrong, blah blah blah. So yeah, oh that's good 859 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 1: to know. I mean, I just I think it's interesting 860 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 1: to me because like, you go from doing everything by yourself, 861 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,840 Speaker 1: a creative thing with your YouTube videos, like and you 862 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,839 Speaker 1: do it all, and then now you have all these 863 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 1: other people, of course that have their own opinions on 864 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:42,239 Speaker 1: how he it. 865 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 2: It was a big transition because I was so used 866 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 2: to being like the guy that made the decisions with 867 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 2: my own things. So it was definitely a big transition 868 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 2: to get to the point where I was able to 869 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 2: allow my co hosts and even like some of the 870 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 2: producers of House of Highlights, to have a say in 871 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 2: what we do. At the end of the day, I 872 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 2: don't know everything, and everybody has their own bit of 873 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 2: knowledge that that can be more useful to whatever we're doing. 874 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 1: Last couple of weekends, All Star weekends, I should say, 875 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 1: you guys have taken the show basically on the road, 876 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 1: although the last one in Chicago. You didn't have to 877 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 1: travel far for that one. But talk about those experiences 878 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 1: and just how exciting I'm sure that was for you guys. 879 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 1: I know when we started doing that, you're actually taking 880 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 1: the show on the road and there are people who 881 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 1: come to see you, want to take photos. Is that 882 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 1: something you guys want to continue to do? 883 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:32,279 Speaker 2: And oh yeah, the first one was so scary. I 884 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 2: was so nervous to perform, to perform, I guess is 885 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 2: the word in front of a crowd. And that was Charlotte. 886 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,839 Speaker 2: So last All Star and I'm sure you guys were 887 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 2: there as well. It was like rainy the entire weekend 888 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 2: and we had Bleach report. We had like this tent, 889 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 2: and the tent was like there at a basketball court. 890 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,320 Speaker 2: They had gaming situations, and then we had our little 891 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,240 Speaker 2: corner whereas where we were performing and we had a crowd, 892 00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,399 Speaker 2: but it was raining and the doors had to stay 893 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,319 Speaker 2: open for like fire hazard purposes. 894 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 3: And it was like forty degrees, so we were like freezing. 895 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 2: I was holding the microphone and you would think that 896 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 2: I was like nervous, but at this point it's just 897 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 2: I'm just so cold, and so we had to put 898 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 2: together so there. 899 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 3: I mean, I think we did a pretty good job. 900 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 3: The fans really loved it. We gave up like. 901 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,400 Speaker 2: Free free clothing and free jerseys and stuff. So that 902 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 2: was our first All Star appearance, and this year it 903 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 2: just got rented up to a whole another level because 904 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 2: this was our home and at this point, we were 905 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 2: like the focal point of the entire house of highlights. 906 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 3: Like brand at this moment. 907 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 2: So they rented out this entire thing where it wasn't 908 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,879 Speaker 2: just basketball courts here and other reasons to be there. 909 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,240 Speaker 2: Everybody that was there were for us, So we packed 910 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:42,840 Speaker 2: out the house. 911 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 3: It was so fun. We had Kobe White on the show, which. 912 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 2: Is one of my favorite bulls, and We're supposed to 913 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 2: have a few WNBA players for something that came up 914 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,720 Speaker 2: in their schedule. But the entire experience of being live, 915 00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,239 Speaker 2: I think it's something that's incredible. I think its something 916 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,800 Speaker 2: that's credible because this year we had like the Twitter 917 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:06,280 Speaker 2: Show and it was broadcast across the world, and never 918 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,799 Speaker 2: did I even recognize the crowd while we were up there. 919 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,240 Speaker 2: I was just so in tune with my co hosts 920 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 2: and the ideas that we were flowing out there. And 921 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 2: that's when I was like, this is exactly what I 922 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 2: want to do for my entire life. 923 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,759 Speaker 1: You get that, itch man, It's exciting for sure, live 924 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 1: anything is very exciting. It's nerve wracking too, but that's 925 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 1: it's like a good feeling, I think. And then when 926 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 1: it's all done and you got through it, you're like, 927 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 1: oh my god, that was awesome exact So what do 928 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 1: you want? You want to do more of that? 929 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 3: Then? 930 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, what does Kenny want to do? Like 931 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 1: in terms of sports media? 932 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 2: So we planned on going on tour this season, but 933 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 2: everything got shut down, like right before we were four 934 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 2: hours away from our flight to Philly for our first 935 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 2: official live show. 936 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 3: Are you serious? 937 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,920 Speaker 2: We got a call from our producers, like you know what, 938 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 2: they shut down travel, We cannot go anywhere. So like 939 00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 2: COVID nineteen, we were this close to being on the 940 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 2: flight during the beginning of the COVID nineteen thing. 941 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,240 Speaker 1: But hold on, were you just gonna go to Philly 942 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 1: and then back or were you gonna do like a tour. 943 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,759 Speaker 2: We're gonna We're gonna go Philly, New York and then 944 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,319 Speaker 2: home and then we also had places like Houston two 945 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:13,359 Speaker 2: weeks later and. 946 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:14,440 Speaker 3: Then here and there. 947 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 2: So we were really getting started for our tour and 948 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,920 Speaker 2: that got shut down. Uh, but that that is what 949 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 2: I want to do. Like I don't know, maybe you 950 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 2: can say something about this. I don't know where the 951 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,960 Speaker 2: future sports media is going with like the internet. I 952 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 2: don't know if it is TV still like where you 953 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 2: want to be or or anywhere else, but whatever, like 954 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,839 Speaker 2: the prime location for an audience of sports media that 955 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 2: I want to be right at the front of that. 956 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:40,719 Speaker 1: Nice. Well, you guys are well on your way. What 957 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 1: about interviewing players and stuff like that. I mean, you said, 958 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,720 Speaker 1: Kobe White, I know you've talked to Trey Young before. 959 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:47,919 Speaker 1: It feels like you've you have an interest in wanting 960 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:48,759 Speaker 1: to do more of that too. 961 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,799 Speaker 2: Yes, So the beginning of January so to the year 962 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 2: of twenty twenty, I was promoted to the face of 963 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 2: the House of Highlights brand, which is pretty cool to say. 964 00:40:57,960 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 2: So there are a few shows that I took over, 965 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 2: and one of them was called The Real where maybe 966 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 2: you seen Omar He was sitting down with different NBA 967 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,839 Speaker 2: players and reacting to their highlights. So I am now 968 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 2: the host of that. And again, we had so many 969 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:11,799 Speaker 2: schedule for the summer. I was supposed to be here 970 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:15,239 Speaker 2: and there, here, there, I've already. Miles Turner was the 971 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,239 Speaker 2: first player I had. He was really nice and I 972 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 2: just great. He opened the door for me. I was 973 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,480 Speaker 2: so nervous for that one, and him just being such 974 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 2: a nice person kind of let me in like, hey, 975 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,319 Speaker 2: these are just normal people as well. So I did 976 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,160 Speaker 2: that one. Trey Young was really cool as well, and 977 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,440 Speaker 2: then I did Pat Contan and one of the more 978 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,239 Speaker 2: recent ones that hasn't been released yet. I had John 979 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,319 Speaker 2: Morant via zoom and that was cool, but I just 980 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:38,959 Speaker 2: I could have had John Morant in Memphis. I wanted 981 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,160 Speaker 2: to go to Memphis so bad. But those are the 982 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,279 Speaker 2: type of things that we've been doing and it's been 983 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,279 Speaker 2: super fun. There's a couple other shows and the work 984 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:48,720 Speaker 2: that I don't think I can say yet. 985 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 3: Hopefully, when all of this is. 986 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,040 Speaker 2: Over and we could get back to travel, those can 987 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 2: become a reality, all right. 988 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,359 Speaker 1: So yeah, when hopefully knock on wood, things are back 989 00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:01,880 Speaker 1: to normal, you guys through the wire, live shows like 990 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:03,920 Speaker 1: you said or like you had planned, and more interviews 991 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:05,719 Speaker 1: and stuff like that, and more shows. It sounds like 992 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,960 Speaker 1: in the works. That's awesome. Well, let's just talk quickly 993 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,480 Speaker 1: about this bubble. I guess on a scale of one 994 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,160 Speaker 1: to ten. I asked Big wat was this the other day? 995 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 1: How confident are you about the NBA is successfully pulling 996 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,520 Speaker 1: this off, this NBA restart in Disney World, that we 997 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:20,799 Speaker 1: crown a champion in. 998 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 3: I think I am as confident as it gets. 999 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,920 Speaker 2: I don't know if it'll be like the traditional championship, 1000 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,279 Speaker 2: because we can get halfway through with the playoffs and 1001 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:34,360 Speaker 2: someone big goes down with hope God forbid COVID nineteen 1002 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 2: or anything. But I do believe that one hundred percent 1003 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:38,960 Speaker 2: the NBA is going to crown a champion because they 1004 00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,839 Speaker 2: they kind of at this point, they put so much 1005 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 2: into it I feel like something dramatic would have to 1006 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,239 Speaker 2: happen for them to shut it down. And them doing 1007 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,040 Speaker 2: the testing last week, I think it was two out 1008 00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 2: of the three hundred and twenty two players testing positive. 1009 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,800 Speaker 2: I think that that is a pretty decent sign going forward, 1010 00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,440 Speaker 2: that that only two players came down with it. But 1011 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:00,799 Speaker 2: the idea of having the employee go in and out 1012 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,360 Speaker 2: of the bubble was kind of the only thing that makes. 1013 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,160 Speaker 3: Me a bit iffy. But I still believe that we 1014 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:06,240 Speaker 3: will crown a champion. 1015 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,839 Speaker 1: Okay, which player or team or both if you want, 1016 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,320 Speaker 1: do you think it's under the most pressure in the restart? 1017 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:13,479 Speaker 1: If you have to pick. 1018 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,080 Speaker 2: NBA Twitter makes me want to say the Bucks, just 1019 00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,400 Speaker 2: because the idea of losing Giannis, But I see Gianni's 1020 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:25,799 Speaker 2: as like a lifer. Just everything about his personality, his 1021 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,440 Speaker 2: upbringing tells me that like he's gonna stay with the 1022 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:32,520 Speaker 2: Bucks forever. So NBA Twitter wants me to say the Bucks. 1023 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,040 Speaker 2: But I think there is a little bit more pressure 1024 00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:38,880 Speaker 2: for like the Houston Rockets, probably more than anything because 1025 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,919 Speaker 2: their window was slowly closing and though Russ the second 1026 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,759 Speaker 2: half of the season was looking amazing, I think we 1027 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,040 Speaker 2: can all agree that like a player like him could 1028 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,120 Speaker 2: fall off a cliffs just because he is He relies 1029 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,680 Speaker 2: so much on this athleticism to be a successful player. 1030 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,239 Speaker 2: So I think those are the teams that I think 1031 00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:56,400 Speaker 2: are under the most pressure. 1032 00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:58,719 Speaker 3: I would I would love to see. 1033 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:03,759 Speaker 2: Like a situation where the Okay, see Thunder somehow become. 1034 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,680 Speaker 1: Great and they have You love Chris Paul, Right. 1035 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,160 Speaker 2: Chris Paul is? I love Chris Paul. I just put 1036 00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:14,240 Speaker 2: up in my workroom. Chris Paul signed jersey. Chris Paul's 1037 00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,239 Speaker 2: is my favorite player other than Derek Grows of all time. 1038 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,400 Speaker 1: Right, Wow, you love for the point guard position. 1039 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,200 Speaker 2: Obviously, it's something about the smaller guys that I just 1040 00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:23,719 Speaker 2: really love. 1041 00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:25,680 Speaker 1: Do you think are you worried that he's going to 1042 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,560 Speaker 1: be abusing the snitch hotline though. 1043 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,399 Speaker 3: Chris Paul, Oh, of course. I mean, hey, I'm looking 1044 00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:31,879 Speaker 3: forward to that. You know. If I want to see 1045 00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:32,839 Speaker 3: them be successful, I. 1046 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,080 Speaker 2: Need Chris Paul to get on the hotline and I 1047 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,600 Speaker 2: need him to tell everything. 1048 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:37,840 Speaker 3: That he sees. 1049 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,200 Speaker 1: There's literally no team left because Chris Paul just snitches 1050 00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,880 Speaker 1: out everyone. Thunder win the championship. You're happy by the 1051 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,480 Speaker 1: sounds of it. Okay, So you're you're confident this goes 1052 00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,040 Speaker 1: off without a hitch. I'm with you there. I do 1053 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:53,560 Speaker 1: think the NBA have taken all the measures they possibly 1054 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:55,720 Speaker 1: can to try and make this as safe as possible. 1055 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,960 Speaker 1: Now it really is on the players, so to speak, 1056 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,839 Speaker 1: to like fold rules exactly. And you know, we're joking 1057 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:03,560 Speaker 1: about the hotline and snitch hot line and all that, 1058 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,520 Speaker 1: but like, you know, if they want to pull this off, 1059 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,400 Speaker 1: they almost have to, like I hate to say it, 1060 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,239 Speaker 1: but like call each other out. If people are not 1061 00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,880 Speaker 1: taking it seriously and you're and you're you are not 1062 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,880 Speaker 1: following the rules, then you sort of should be penalized exactly. 1063 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:18,840 Speaker 1: You would hope people aren't making things up and stuff 1064 00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:20,680 Speaker 1: like that, and I think these guys wouldn't do that. 1065 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's a crazy situation. I won't keep you 1066 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,080 Speaker 1: much longer here. You send you hoop a little bit 1067 00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,680 Speaker 1: a little so I think I read somewhere crip do 1068 00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,040 Speaker 1: you have like some basketball DNA in your family? Is 1069 00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:33,040 Speaker 1: your uncle or something like that? 1070 00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:33,239 Speaker 2: Uh? 1071 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:34,360 Speaker 3: My uncle played. 1072 00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,480 Speaker 2: My uncle played at Hawaii. Okay, so that's that's the 1073 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,960 Speaker 2: most basketball we have. And right now he's training my 1074 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,600 Speaker 2: younger cousin, who I think he's going to be really, 1075 00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,879 Speaker 2: really good. I think he's twelve years old right now, 1076 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:46,960 Speaker 2: and every time I see him, he's got a basketball 1077 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:48,680 Speaker 2: in his hand, and I think he's going to be 1078 00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,640 Speaker 2: really good. But that's the as far as it goes. 1079 00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,920 Speaker 2: But my uncle is the reason I am. It's a basketball. 1080 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,160 Speaker 2: We would have like these summers where he has h 1081 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,080 Speaker 2: he has four boys, and then I would be the 1082 00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,239 Speaker 2: fifth boy. Uh as a boy in the exactly would 1083 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:04,000 Speaker 2: run up to the park every summer. We'd spend the 1084 00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:05,879 Speaker 2: nights at his house, and the days we're at the park, 1085 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:07,680 Speaker 2: they will go home, eat and get ready for the 1086 00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:08,160 Speaker 2: next day. 1087 00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,120 Speaker 3: So he's the guy that ingrained the love of basketball. 1088 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:11,640 Speaker 3: That's us. 1089 00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,200 Speaker 1: That's cool. Well we got it at some point. Set 1090 00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,239 Speaker 1: up a four on four game. I think there has 1091 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:20,520 Speaker 1: to happen versus no dunks, because here's love that. I'm 1092 00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,880 Speaker 1: guarding you for sure, Okay, I feel like you're the quickest, 1093 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,000 Speaker 1: You're the point guard of the team. There. We got 1094 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,759 Speaker 1: a battle of the bigs in Derek versus Trey. Those 1095 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:31,960 Speaker 1: are the big guys on the squads. Who is more 1096 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,920 Speaker 1: of a sharp shooter Between Mike and Pierre, Mike is 1097 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,440 Speaker 1: definitely the sharp shooter of the Okay, okay, so Mike's 1098 00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,920 Speaker 1: gonna match up with Lee, he's our three point specialist. 1099 00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,239 Speaker 1: And then Pierre and tasks is does Pierre have like 1100 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,400 Speaker 1: a sort of a gritty game to him? Is he 1101 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,240 Speaker 1: gonna do the small things or he know? 1102 00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:51,120 Speaker 3: Pierre is the nest player more than anything. Uh, he's 1103 00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,640 Speaker 3: he is a pretty boy on the court. He wants 1104 00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,399 Speaker 3: to make the flashy pass. Oh, he wants to do. 1105 00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,840 Speaker 2: The finger roll and instead of just getting the easy layup. 1106 00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:00,839 Speaker 2: That's the player that he But I can say he's 1107 00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:02,440 Speaker 2: the best player of the group though, even all of 1108 00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:03,080 Speaker 2: that considered. 1109 00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,000 Speaker 1: So oh, okay, I like that Ask is a good 1110 00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,560 Speaker 1: defensive player. So that's that might be a nice matchup. 1111 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,040 Speaker 3: Remind me how how tall is Trey again? Trades six 1112 00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,520 Speaker 3: y five six five? Okay, Derek is sixty four. So 1113 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,040 Speaker 3: you know that's a good mats up right there. 1114 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, Trey's a big guy. I didn't know Derek was 1115 00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,000 Speaker 1: that tall. Other, all right, this is perfect. We'll make 1116 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,719 Speaker 1: this happen, you know, like get rid of the celebrity 1117 00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:23,879 Speaker 1: All Star game. Look, give the people what they want 1118 00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,359 Speaker 1: through the wire versus no dunks. Zach four on four 1119 00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,160 Speaker 1: it'd be awesome. Well, look, I'm gonna let you go. 1120 00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,399 Speaker 1: You're a busy man. I'm gonna I want to wish 1121 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,040 Speaker 1: you continued success. He's been a real treat. Thank you 1122 00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:34,520 Speaker 1: so much for coming on, Kenny, appreciate it. 1123 00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:34,680 Speaker 2: Man. 1124 00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:36,000 Speaker 1: Tell the people where to follow your work. 1125 00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:37,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1126 00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,200 Speaker 2: Firstly, I just want to say thank you to you 1127 00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,120 Speaker 2: and and the entire crew. You guys have been a 1128 00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,360 Speaker 2: big inspiration for me throughout the times, especially with you 1129 00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,279 Speaker 2: guys using your voice for all the things that are 1130 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:47,520 Speaker 2: they're important in the world. 1131 00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:48,359 Speaker 3: I appreciate that. 1132 00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,000 Speaker 2: And also with this quarantine, the fact that you guys 1133 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:54,000 Speaker 2: have been able to put together not just content but 1134 00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:57,600 Speaker 2: quality content throughout this entire time without actually having basketball, 1135 00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:58,520 Speaker 2: it's admirable. 1136 00:47:58,640 --> 00:47:59,360 Speaker 3: So thank you for that. 1137 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:03,000 Speaker 1: Thank you this. You're our two hundred and fiftieth podcast 1138 00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:06,080 Speaker 1: of the season. That is crazy, which sounds insane to 1139 00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,520 Speaker 1: stay out loud. And then we're gonna we're gonna clipse 1140 00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:10,719 Speaker 1: three hundred for this season, no problem. But well, I 1141 00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,279 Speaker 1: appreciate the kind of words. Thank you so much. But 1142 00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:14,640 Speaker 1: where can people follow your work? 1143 00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,080 Speaker 3: Sure? Yeah, at Twitter, I'm at kot for Q. 1144 00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,560 Speaker 2: You can type that exact thing onto YouTube and you 1145 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:23,120 Speaker 2: see all of my channels. I would I'd recommend going 1146 00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,840 Speaker 2: to the YouTube channel and seeing if you enjoy the content. 1147 00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:27,200 Speaker 2: If so, hit the subscribe button. 1148 00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,120 Speaker 1: There it is. Yeah, hit the subscribe button. I heard 1149 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:31,759 Speaker 1: you the other day saying a lot of you are 1150 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:33,400 Speaker 1: watching this, why aren't you subscribed? 1151 00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:33,920 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1152 00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:35,920 Speaker 1: That obviously helps you out in terms. I'm sure of 1153 00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:37,080 Speaker 1: numbers and getting paid. 1154 00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,600 Speaker 3: In numbers and brand deals different things like that. 1155 00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:42,400 Speaker 2: I mean, at the end of the day, it's the views. 1156 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,080 Speaker 2: Mattal way more than a subcount. But it's just cool 1157 00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:46,560 Speaker 2: to have a higher number. 1158 00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,600 Speaker 3: You know, we want to hit a million, and you subscribe, 1159 00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:49,560 Speaker 3: we can hit a million. 1160 00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, so he doesn't have to round up two hundred exactly. 1161 00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:56,080 Speaker 1: Hit the subscribe button. King of the fourth Quarter, Kenny, 1162 00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:57,759 Speaker 1: thanks so much, man, appreciate you, take care. 1163 00:48:58,200 --> 00:48:58,600 Speaker 3: Thank you. 1164 00:48:59,080 --> 00:48:59,800 Speaker 1: Race the day people. 1165 00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:09,520 Speaker 3: You could say, oh every day and age happy every minute. 1166 00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:15,120 Speaker 3: It's been so long that you're no mona wait for 1167 00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:31,799 Speaker 3: it's happened already. It's gonna be grivy