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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us as we

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Speaker 1: begin the Wednesday edition of the program, the day after

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Speaker 1: election day, one year until basically the twenty twenty four elections,

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Speaker 1: and we are live at mar A Lago down in

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Speaker 1: West Palm Beach.

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Speaker 2: In the third hour of the program.

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Speaker 1: Make sure that you are with us because Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: will be here live on the air for an hour

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Speaker 1: with us to finish the show today. In the meantime,

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Speaker 1: we've got a lot to react to. We'll take some

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Speaker 1: of your calls eight hundred to.

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Speaker 2: Eight A two.

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Speaker 1: But Election Night twenty twenty three has now come and passed,

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Speaker 1: and Buck, I jotted down three things that, based on

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Speaker 1: looking at the data, jumped out to me, and I

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Speaker 1: want to get your reaction to each of these things,

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Speaker 1: the lessons potentially that could be gleaned from what we

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Speaker 1: saw happen in last night's results. Number one, and this

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Speaker 1: is probably the most disappointing to me. And I know

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Speaker 1: it's disappointed to you, Bought, because it's one reason that

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Speaker 1: you moved down to Florida. Kentucky Governor Vasher was re

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Speaker 1: elected by about five points fifty two to forty seven

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Speaker 1: or thereabouts, beat Daniel Cameron, the Attorney General Republican candidate

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Speaker 1: from the state of Kentucky. And what really fires me

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Speaker 1: up about this this point one, is there were no

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Speaker 1: consequences for COVID. Andy Basheer was wrong on everything. And

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Speaker 1: we've talked about this a lot on the program. No

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Speaker 1: Democrat lost his or her job for being wrong on COVID.

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Speaker 1: And it might be frustrating if it's Gavin Newsom or

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Speaker 1: if it's someone in New York or a blue city

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Speaker 1: or blue state, but you can at least understand that

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Speaker 1: because the people there might be refusing to acknowledgledge that

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Speaker 1: they were wrong and they're just going to vote for

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Speaker 1: their tribe. Donald Trump, if he is the nominee, is

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Speaker 1: going to win Kentucky by thirty points. Andy Basher, the Democrat,

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Speaker 1: got everything wrong on COVID. He kept kids out of school,

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Speaker 1: he made them wear masks, and yet there were no

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Speaker 1: consequences even in a red state. Here's a little sports

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Speaker 1: analogy for you, Buck. The only Southeastern Conference state that

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Speaker 1: So that's my biggest takeaway point one. I mean, and

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Speaker 1: I know this, it fires you up too well.

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Speaker 2: Of course, because you didn't have the consequences of or

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Speaker 2: for any of these Democrat governors, any of these Democrat

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Speaker 2: have just moved on from COVID. People don't want to

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Speaker 2: really think about it anymore. To me, it's more a

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Speaker 2: function though, of is this this individual somebody who has

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Speaker 2: good judgment in a moment of crisis. I think that

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Speaker 2: you know everything you need to know about a leader's

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Speaker 2: judgment based on how they responded to COVID in its totality,

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Speaker 2: not just picking one week at one point in time

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Speaker 2: position of authority handled it, and you know, how are

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Speaker 2: they under pressure? Do they look at the data or

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Speaker 2: do they look at the polls first and foremost? And

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Speaker 2: so it's frustrating for me. But look, Clay, the real

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Speaker 2: takeaway from last night, if we're looking at it from

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Speaker 2: a thirty thousand foot view, is it was a bad knight.

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Speaker 2: For Republicans. It was a bad knight for Republicans and

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Speaker 2: the pro life movement in Ohio, a bad night in Virginia, obviously,

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Speaker 2: a bad night in Kentucky. And I think we get this.

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Speaker 2: If we're going to take something away from this that

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Speaker 2: because we look at these different these different contests, and

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Speaker 2: it's a combination of things. In virgin it's the General Assembly,

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Speaker 2: which is now Democrat Glenn Youngkin's dream of a general

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Speaker 2: the state legislature. Ohio changed amended its constitution for a

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Speaker 2: pro abortion pro abortion statute. That's a big loss for

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Speaker 2: the pro life movement in Ohio. Obviously, you talked about

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Speaker 2: I do not know what is going on with Kentucky there,

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Speaker 2: And when you look at the expended whether it's in

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Speaker 1: Look, and that's why my number one is Kentucky my

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Speaker 1: I think Glenn Youngkin probably in the last two and

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Speaker 2: Now, I will say it was still very even so.

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Speaker 1: While Virginia did not flip, it was still if you

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Speaker 1: go look at the numbers and compare it to twenty

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Speaker 2: And then the last one you hit on it.

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Speaker 1: Abortion is still a challenge, and we talked about on

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Speaker 1: this show that in post Roe v. Wade America, there

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Speaker 1: hasn't been some massive decline in abortions. In fact, according

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Speaker 2: But they're going to try, and I.

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Speaker 1: Was reading this morning as the data came in on Ohio.

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Speaker 1: They're going to try to get an abortion referendum on

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Speaker 2: They're going to try.

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Speaker 1: They already got one on the ballot in Ohio and

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Speaker 1: They're going to try to put these on as many

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Speaker 1: And we'll talk about this sum with Donald Trump, who

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Speaker 1: the amount of money as you mentioned that's going to

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, there's a split within the GOP right now,

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Speaker 2: the GOP is the pro life party. The Democrats are

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Speaker 2: the pro abortion party. This has been the case for

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Speaker 2: off distance, there's going to be it's already happening, a

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Speaker 2: debate between do we go all in where we can

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Speaker 2: to protect as much life as we can, or is

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Speaker 2: it a better strategy to moderate and have the incrementalism

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Speaker 2: that the left used for many years on abortion to

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Speaker 2: get to the most extreme positions in reverse? Effectively, do

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Speaker 2: you make the political calculation that you know you're going

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Speaker 2: a true pro life position, or is at an abandonment

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Speaker 2: is about more than just politics.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: But the problem, of course becomes if it's about more

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Speaker 2: most extreme abortion laws possible in the state because of

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Speaker 2: how you've messaged it politically, you're going to have greater

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Speaker 2: worse position. So no one's really figured out how this

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Speaker 2: Trump has said, and we'll ask them about this today

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Speaker 2: in the third hour, that this is going to be

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Speaker 2: a state's issue, which was the whole basis for the

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Speaker 2: overturning of ree V Wade. So that's consistent. But it's

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Speaker 2: it's people on the pro life side. And I know

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Speaker 2: We have to get the messaging right.

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Speaker 1: I think think hey, Haley has handled it well. I

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Speaker 1: purely political analysis. There are ten percent of people who

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Speaker 1: none of it. There are ten percent of people that

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Speaker 1: There's a variety of different positions on what the law

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Speaker 1: it's Ron DeSantis six weeks. Glenn Youngkin in Virginia, which

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Speaker 1: in a very different state, more competitive state than Florida,

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Speaker 1: Let individual states decide and pivot and attack Democrats for

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Speaker 2: It has to be dealt with state by state. That's

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Speaker 2: the whole basis for Again, the overturning of Row was

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Speaker 2: not that it wasn't on the basis of we need

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Speaker 2: a federal law that makes it illegal for anyone to

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Speaker 1: It was we this goes back to it should be

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Speaker 1: a political issue for individual stakes.

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Speaker 2: That's right. That was the Scalia position before he passed

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Speaker 2: for many years. And I think what you've seen also

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Speaker 2: is understands that this for them goes beyond just the

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Speaker 2: normal political issues.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: That's why there's a sensitivity here. This is about saving babies' lives.

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Speaker 2: But they can see that there was a very strong

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Speaker 2: legislation passed and signed here in Florida by Governor DeSantis.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's not a no exception situation. Also, very

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Speaker 2: So there are places where there have been some victories

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Speaker 2: or I should say there's been action to defend life.

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Speaker 2: But going into the twenty twenty four election, it is

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Speaker 2: them victories in key swing states, and GOP has got

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Speaker 2: and Buck Sexton, welcome back to play. Buck. Everybody eight

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Speaker 2: If the National Democrat Party is planning to hammer and

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Speaker 1: To take a Rudy Giuliani like moment for so many

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Speaker 1: We are live at our alago, going to be joined

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Speaker 5: Listen, I can't believe I have to say this, but

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Speaker 2: and less.

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Speaker 1: Just, and it is a direct response to a terror attack.

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Speaker 1: When you're arguing for a ceasefire, imagine if Japan had said,

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Speaker 1: right after they attacked us on the Pearl Harbor, hey,

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Speaker 1: we got to have a ceasefire.

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Speaker 2: Now. Imagine if I walked up with somebody in a

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Speaker 2: bar and hit them over the head with a bottle

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Speaker 2: and they're you know, picking shards out of the side

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Speaker 2: of their face, and I said, hey, buddy, well hold on,

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Speaker 2: ceasefire time. Now, let's have a ceasefire. Why are you

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Speaker 2: trying to hurt me. It's effectively what the hamas apologists

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Speaker 2: are doing right now, and they haven't even returned the hostages.

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Speaker 2: There's over two hundred hostages that are still being held here,

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Speaker 2: which I think one of the reasons why you see

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Speaker 2: some of these lunatics. You don't see it in my

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Speaker 2: neighborhood in Miami Beach, no one's pulling down the hostage flyers,

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Speaker 2: but in other places you've seen these lunatics pulling down

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Speaker 2: flyers that show the hostages. Is that the bad guys

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Speaker 2: take hostages, and that's a really tough one to get around, right.

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Speaker 2: The bad guys are the ones that are taking children,

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Speaker 2: elderly people and threatening to murder them if they don't

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Speaker 2: get their way politically, including.

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Speaker 1: Ten Americans, which everybody just seems to want to forget about.

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Speaker 1: Remember Joe Biden went to Israel and returned without getting

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Speaker 1: the American hostages released. And to your point, it's not

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Speaker 1: as if these are enemy combatants. I think we have

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Speaker 1: Corey Bush here too. She's a Democrat from Missouri, part

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Speaker 1: of the left wing pro Palestine, giving excuses for hamas

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Speaker 1: contingent of the Democrat party.

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Speaker 2: Here, she is losing it.

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Speaker 1: This is about as unhinged as you'll see somebody on

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Speaker 1: the house floor. Soundbuck, let's play cut seventeen.

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Speaker 6: It's outrageous that my colleagues are blatantly, blatantly attempting to

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Speaker 6: silence the only Palestinian American representative right here.

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Speaker 2: It's outrageous, but it's not surprising.

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Speaker 6: And let me tell you, it's not surprising because this

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Speaker 6: place is where seventeen hundred members of Congress elect body

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Speaker 6: enslaved black people. It's not surprising because they thought it

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Speaker 6: was right. It's not surprising because this is a place

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Speaker 6: where members continue to claim that the insurrection on the

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Speaker 6: Capitol just appear to look like a normal tourist visit.

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Speaker 2: And let me say this.

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Speaker 6: She mourns for the fourteen hundred, more for the ten thousand,

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Speaker 6: and she will not stop.

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Speaker 2: General Lady's time is expired.

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Speaker 6: I cease fire now, and she takes the death threats

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Speaker 6: that you all said that death.

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Speaker 2: The General Lady is no longer recognized the gentleman from Maryland.

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Speaker 2: The desire to say love is greater general gentlemen from

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Speaker 2: Maryland is recognized. Can say it. There's a lot a

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Speaker 2: lot going on there.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that is messy even for deranged house standards

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Speaker 1: of behavior.

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Speaker 2: Can I just we're just does not mourn for the

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Speaker 2: fourteen hundred is really who are killed. The first thing

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Speaker 2: that she does is go out there and say, I'm

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Speaker 2: so scared for what the response will be against Palestinians.

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Speaker 2: There was there was no time spent mourning for the

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Speaker 2: fourteen hundreds Raelies who were brutally murdered by terrorists and

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Speaker 2: in ways that are so grotesque and so barbaric that

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Speaker 2: we were just talking about this in the drive up.

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Speaker 2: It's something that stays with you when you just read

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Speaker 2: the descriptions. Never mind those people who have seen their video.

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Speaker 2: There's photos. The decision was made by Hamas not only

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Speaker 2: to kill as many civilians as possible, but to do

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Speaker 2: so in the most gruesome and sadistic way possible. To

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Speaker 2: show that this is really about a hatred of the

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Speaker 2: Jewish people. First and foremost, Pashiddly doesn't address any of that.

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Speaker 2: She pretends that this is like a resistance movement, that's

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Speaker 2: hoping for a swap of territory, that's fighting with Geneva

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Speaker 2: convention rules. It's completely insane.

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Speaker 1: How about the fact that she tried to connect condemning

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Speaker 1: a terror attack that killed fourteen hundred innocent people with

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Speaker 1: the actions of slavery in the United States. I know

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Speaker 1: that the concept of the Democrat Party trying to tie

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Speaker 1: everything back to hundred zero years ago, but to argue

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Speaker 1: that there is some sort of moral equivalency between condemning

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Speaker 1: an endorsement of terror attacks and a refusal to condemn

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Speaker 1: them with slavery existing is so broken brained that even

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Speaker 1: left wing Democrats have to be astounded that that argument

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Speaker 1: could attempted to be made.

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Speaker 2: On the House floor.

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Speaker 1: And I hope Corey Bush, a lot of these Democrat

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Speaker 1: congressmen and women are going to get primaried. I hope

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Speaker 1: there's somebody in the Saint Louis area with a functional brain.

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Speaker 1: Because it's a Democrat seat, it's going to be a

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Speaker 1: Democrat representative. Surely, there's got to be somebody that the

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Speaker 1: Saint Louis area can send us that is more intelligent

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Speaker 1: and more able to do the job than Corey Bush.

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Speaker 2: Clay, you also have to just take a step back

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Speaker 2: and ask the question, the people who are making these

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Speaker 2: entreaties now on behalf of the ceasefire, or that are

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Speaker 2: making excuses for Hamas, or what is it that they

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Speaker 2: think Israel should actually do. I keep asking this question.

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Speaker 2: Answer the question, A ceasefire for how long? How long

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Speaker 2: is that ceasefire supposed to last? Is it supposed to

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Speaker 2: be indefinite? So they don't because if the answer is yes,

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Speaker 2: it's indefinite, well then they don't actually believe in the

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Speaker 2: Israeli right to self defense against a terrorist group that's

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Speaker 2: right on its borders. They don't want to tell people

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Speaker 2: what they really want. Here is the end state, which

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Speaker 2: is the end of the Jewish state. That's the only

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Speaker 2: acceptable position for the people that make apologies for Hamas

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Speaker 2: and for the Palestinian cause and all the rest of

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Speaker 2: it is the end of Israel and everything else is

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Speaker 2: really just noise. And that's what you see from the

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Speaker 2: numerous failed negotiated attempts to end this conflict with offers

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Speaker 2: made for a vast majority of the terror They don't

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Speaker 2: want a deal. They want the end of Israel and

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Speaker 2: everything else that all these people they are talking about Palestine,

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Speaker 2: the sympathy for the Palestinian cause, and how Gaza, oh

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Speaker 2: people are poor and it's rough there and everything else.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm billionaires running around cutter who are supposed

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Speaker 2: to be running the Palestinian territories. They got billionaires who

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Speaker 2: are flying on private jets. They don't care about these

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Speaker 2: people because they're supposed to be kept there effectively as

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Speaker 2: as pawns in a broader game of honestly, just anti

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Speaker 2: Semitic sentiment from across the Middle East. That's really what

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Speaker 2: this is all about.

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Speaker 1: And that's why Joe Biden is trying to finesse this

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Speaker 1: divide in his party by endorsing a pause, which is

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Speaker 1: not a ceasefire.

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Speaker 2: But you also don't hear how long the pause should last.

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Speaker 2: I mean now they're playing semantic games, but it is.

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Speaker 2: Isn't it amazing You talk about Joe Biden and finesse

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Speaker 2: and you realize that's not gonna go. Well, he's not

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Speaker 2: a finesse guy these days, that's for sure. I'm not

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Speaker 2: sure Joe Biden has the ability to do anything much less. Yes,

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Speaker 2: he doesn't have dexterity. He does not have finesse. We'll

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Speaker 2: get back into all this in a second eight hundred

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Speaker 5: A lot of.

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Speaker 7: Videos of individuals who have been tearing down signs, many

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Speaker 7: of these taking place in New York City of Israeli's

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Speaker 7: presently being held hostage in Gaza. There have been some

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Speaker 7: tense confrontations that have taken place. There is the White

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Speaker 5: Look, I've sort of kind of seen the reporting here

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Speaker 5: and there. I think it was from last week, right, like.

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Speaker 2: Thirty million videos that've got around.

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Speaker 5: No, I know, I hear you, I hear it.

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Speaker 2: I'm just not going to I'm not going to I'm

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Speaker 2: not going is that peaceful protests about down? Should you

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Speaker 2: not be here?

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Speaker 4: I'm just not going to go into specifics on that

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Speaker 4: particular thing.

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Speaker 2: I think it's pretty easy. Actually, that was Karim Jean Pierre,

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Speaker 2: and it seemed like she didn't want to answer the question,

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Speaker 2: what do you think about those who are going around

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Speaker 2: ripping down photos of people who have been seized as hostages,

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Speaker 2: their lives hanging in the balance by hamas a vile

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Speaker 2: terrorist entity. What do you think of it? And from

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Speaker 2: the White House podium, Karine Jean Pierre doesn't want to say,

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Speaker 2: you know what, maybe even they have a right to

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Speaker 2: do it, although I think, you know, are you like

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Speaker 2: kind of destroying property by ripping someone's poster up? But

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Speaker 2: you know, we believe in free speech, but we think

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Speaker 2: that's gross. They won't say it because there's a big

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Speaker 2: chunk of the Democrat Party clay that are honestly hamas

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Speaker 2: apologists slash anti Semites.

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Speaker 1: That's reality. What about I kind of sort of have

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Speaker 1: seen the reporting. It's everywhere. Her job is to be

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Speaker 1: the White House Press secretary. Even if you claim that

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Speaker 1: you aren't seeing all of these viral videos. It has

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Speaker 1: been written up in the New York Times, in the

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Speaker 1: Washington Post, in the Wall Street Journal, all of them

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Speaker 1: have had big feature pieces on the fact that these

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Speaker 1: hostage placards, these posters that are all over the place

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Speaker 1: have become major cultural flashpoints. To claim that she isn't

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Speaker 1: aware of it. Even going on is a step where

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Speaker 1: she beyond where she's not giving you an actual opinion,

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Speaker 1: which should be, Hey, we want to all the hostages

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Speaker 1: to come back. We don't think it's helpful to tear

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Speaker 1: those down. She's claiming that she's not even that well

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Speaker 1: versed in the story to try to give herself an

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Speaker 1: out on why she doesn't want to comment on it,

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Speaker 1: which is one hundred percent a lie, but goes to ultimately,

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Speaker 1: the Democrat Party is being torn asunder based on identity politics.

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Speaker 2: There's no way for them to have their feet on

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Speaker 2: both sides of the line here, right. I mean that

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Speaker 2: you can straddle this one. You're either you're either on

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Speaker 2: board for Israel defending itself after its own version of

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Speaker 2: nine to eleven, or you're making excuses for a terrorist

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Speaker 2: entity that was beheading dabies. I mean, that's what's going

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Speaker 2: on here. Let's take some of your calls. As we said,

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Speaker 2: let's get to and this is in reference the last night,

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Speaker 2: which was disappointing for Republicans, but you know, at least

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Speaker 2: it's not twenty twenty four disappointing. We'll take BD in Lexington,

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Speaker 2: Kentucky on the governor's race.

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Speaker 3: There, what's up, Good afternoon, gentlemen. Last night, as I

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Speaker 3: was watching the returns come in for the governor's race,

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Speaker 3: I kind of saw how the narrative this morning would

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Speaker 3: be thrown out by the national media. I thought that

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Speaker 3: they would be pushing that Kentucky is somehow starting to

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Speaker 3: affirm the President's agenda. And I think that something actually

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Speaker 3: really unique happened last night in the story and being told.

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Speaker 3: I think it came down to the fact that Kentucky

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Speaker 3: has a very popular governor who has helped guide the

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Speaker 3: state through the devastating tornadoes in western Kentucky, the unprecedented flooding,

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Speaker 3: and the already impoverished Eastern Kentucky. He brought sports gambling

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Speaker 3: to the table that we finally have even though again

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Speaker 3: neighboring states. Yes, I actually voted for Daniel Cameron, but

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Speaker 3: I will say I was undecided until I stepped into

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Speaker 3: the booth.

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Speaker 1: So I think I appreciate you laying out why this

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Speaker 1: year might be popular. The guy was wrong on everything

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Speaker 1: related to COVID. He kept kids in masks for years

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Speaker 1: in the state of Kentucky, so I understand. I hope

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Speaker 1: that every governor would be good responding to floods or

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Speaker 1: tornadoes that take place in their state. I think Kentucky

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Speaker 1: got it wrong, and frankly, it's disappointing that even in

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Speaker 1: a red state, a governor who failed on everything related

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Speaker 1: to COVID didn't bear the consequences. And if you want

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Speaker 1: to talk about threats to democracy, to me not being

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Speaker 1: able to be held accountable for failures, I'll just say it.

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Speaker 1: People are tougher on John Caliperi as a basketball coach

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Speaker 1: in Kentucky than they are on the governor for how

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Speaker 1: he responded to COVID.

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Speaker 2: I just learned that's backwards Kentucky basketball. They're tougher on

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Speaker 2: Mark Stoops too. Your football and basketball.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, your football and basketball coaches are held to a

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Speaker 1: higher standard of job performance than your governor.

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Speaker 2: I think that's backwards. Hillary Clinton had some words to

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Speaker 2: say about Donald Trump and Donald Trump's gonna have some

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Speaker 2: words with us here in the third hour, so stick around.

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Speaker 2: That's all coming up