WEBVTT - TechStuff Classic: Where's My Flying Car?

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to tech Stuff, a production from I Heart Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive producer with iHeart Radio and

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<v Speaker 1>I love all things tech and is time for another

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<v Speaker 1>classic episode of tech Stuff. This one originally published back

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<v Speaker 1>on December two, two thousand thirteen. It is titled Where's

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<v Speaker 1>My Flying Car. I don't know how I resisted the

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<v Speaker 1>urge to title it dude, where's my Flying Car? But

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<v Speaker 1>somehow I did. Anyway, as you may guess, this is

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<v Speaker 1>an episode about flying cars and why ain't they everywhere already?

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<v Speaker 1>Gosh darn it, let's listen in if this is the future,

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<v Speaker 1>Where's my flying car? Where's my jet flying car? Why

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<v Speaker 1>are my meals in pill form? It's because jet packs

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<v Speaker 1>and flying cars are really dangerous. Yeah, they're not practical

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<v Speaker 1>very much, and at least not yet, and they're really

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<v Speaker 1>tricky to do in a way that is safe. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>even if you're talking about completely automating it, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk about some cars where they're taking that approach,

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<v Speaker 1>where they're making it as automated as possible, it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's there's a lot of logistics to work through. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>just imagine, like in my neighborhood alone, if I had

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<v Speaker 1>a flying car and it was all automated and everything,

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<v Speaker 1>and it could detect other flying cars, I still have

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<v Speaker 1>to worry about things like power lines. And we don't

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<v Speaker 1>have autonomous cars that go on a two dimensional plane yet.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean adding that third dimension is more complicated

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<v Speaker 1>than it probably sounds. So the flying car, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously that's been something in science fiction. What might surprise

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<v Speaker 1>you is how old the concept of a flying car is.

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<v Speaker 1>It did not take very long after the invention of

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<v Speaker 1>both cars and planes for someone to say, hey, wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>it be awesome if a car was also a plane.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh So back in eighteen eighty five, that's when you

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<v Speaker 1>get your first gasoline powered automobile, which was invented by

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<v Speaker 1>a fellow named Carl Friedrich Benz and Mercedes Benz. And

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<v Speaker 1>then in nineteen o three we had the first flight

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<v Speaker 1>of the Right brothers, right, which, depending upon your view

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<v Speaker 1>of history, was the first you know, uh, solid like

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<v Speaker 1>heavier than air flight. Uh. There's definitely some debate there,

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<v Speaker 1>but generally in the historical ranks, generally speaking, people say

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen O three first flight. At any rate, it was

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<v Speaker 1>right around that time. So eighteen eighty five was the

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<v Speaker 1>first gasoline powered automobile. Keep in mind that there were

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<v Speaker 1>other types of automobile, steam powered, electric powered ones, but

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<v Speaker 1>gasolene powered started in the late nineteenth century early twentieth century.

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<v Speaker 1>You get the Right Brothers, So how long did it

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<v Speaker 1>take before someone came up with an idea of making

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<v Speaker 1>up car slash plane? Seventeen fourteen years after the Right

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<v Speaker 1>Brothers flew, someone says, clearly, awesome, two things can be combined, right,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the chocolate and peanut butter of the technological age.

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<v Speaker 1>They must become one. And that person was but Glenn Curtis.

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<v Speaker 1>He created the Curtis auto Plane. Then the names of

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<v Speaker 1>these things, by the way, are my favorite that they

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<v Speaker 1>really only get better. Yeah, it's sort of like what

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<v Speaker 1>you encounter when you when you look at steampunk, where

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<v Speaker 1>people come up with the most creative uh, goofy goofy,

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<v Speaker 1>like like multi collaborate names. So the Curtis auto Plane

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't really a true flying car and what we would

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<v Speaker 1>think of today, right, it didn't look like a car

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<v Speaker 1>that could suddenly take off and you wouldn't he have

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<v Speaker 1>Doc Brown say where we're going, we don't need roads,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you have the big Back to the Future

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<v Speaker 1>music come up. It's it looked more like a plane

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<v Speaker 1>that you could sort of drive around if you needed to. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was a plane, a small plane, relatively small

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<v Speaker 1>plane with a forty foot wingspans about twelve point, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you very much. And it had a rear mounted four

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<v Speaker 1>bladed propellers, so the propellers on the back of the

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<v Speaker 1>plane and so have on the front of it, which

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<v Speaker 1>is fairly common in a lot of the designs will

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<v Speaker 1>be talking about today. Um and uh. But but it

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<v Speaker 1>never really flew, now, it just kind of hopped off

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<v Speaker 1>the ground a couple of times, never really caught flight.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you ever watch any of those kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like a toddler going and flying and started jumping really hard. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>if you look at any of those old timey movies

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<v Speaker 1>where people were working on the early early versions of airplanes,

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<v Speaker 1>and you see lots of planes that get a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit off the ground and then immediately come right back down,

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of what this thing did. It never never

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<v Speaker 1>attained true flight, to be fair. At the time, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that a lot of especially kind of hobbyist created

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<v Speaker 1>planes exactly. We're just you know, we're really just hopping.

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<v Speaker 1>So that probably wasn't terrible for no, for a first

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<v Speaker 1>attempt at making a car that was also a plane.

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<v Speaker 1>Not bad, not great, but not bad. And it would

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<v Speaker 1>take another twenty years before someone would create something similar,

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<v Speaker 1>or at least according to all the research I was doing,

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<v Speaker 1>there probably were other people, hobbyists, mechanics engineers who are

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<v Speaker 1>trying to do the sort of thing, but not all

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<v Speaker 1>of their attempts have been recorded for posterity's sake. But

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<v Speaker 1>in ninety seven, a Waldo Waterman created the aero bile

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<v Speaker 1>or aerobill or aerobilly anyways, it was. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>student baker, which, as we all know from the Muppet

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<v Speaker 1>movie is a bear's natural habitat, so student baker not.

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<v Speaker 1>If you were to look at a picture of a

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<v Speaker 1>student baker, I don't think the first thing that you

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<v Speaker 1>would think is that looks like that sucker could fly

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<v Speaker 1>through the air. And yet Waldo Waterman was determined, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this one was that was a three wheeled car, but

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<v Speaker 1>the wheels were detachable. Yeah, well had detachable wheels and

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<v Speaker 1>a rear mounted propeller, and it never ended up getting

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<v Speaker 1>uh sufficient funding. The wings itself were also detachable. That's

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<v Speaker 1>also a very common thing and a lot of these

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<v Speaker 1>early designs where you know, you would take all the

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<v Speaker 1>parts that you didn't need off for it to be

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<v Speaker 1>a car, and then once you got to wherever, them

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<v Speaker 1>in a very large trunk and run. Yeah, or a

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<v Speaker 1>trailer that you would tow behind the car get to

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<v Speaker 1>wherever you're going, Like whatever airstrip you're going to put

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<v Speaker 1>your plane together, Yeah, you'd actually have to assembol it

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<v Speaker 1>and then it would be a plane. So it was,

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<v Speaker 1>which is something that is very worrying for me. I

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<v Speaker 1>have to say, guys, I I personally do not have

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of engineering background to really feel comfortable flying

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<v Speaker 1>in something that I have just built. Can you imagine

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<v Speaker 1>looking into the trailer and you're seeing like three or

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<v Speaker 1>four just random nuts and bolts in there and think

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<v Speaker 1>that's good enough? You know it's because it could be

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<v Speaker 1>like going to Ikea, like you put your furniture together

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<v Speaker 1>and you're like, it's always a few spare bits, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, well, you didn't say that we're spare bits,

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<v Speaker 1>But I could have sworn I followed the instructions. Yet

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<v Speaker 1>that was sort of what these early flying cars were

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<v Speaker 1>like too. So really, you're gonna notice while we talk

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<v Speaker 1>about this, so for these early ones, it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>sound more and more like it was a plane that

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<v Speaker 1>converted into a vehicle that could travel on Rhods. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the case for most of these early ones. Robert Edison

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<v Speaker 1>Fulton Jr. A distant relative to another Fulton we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about in how steam engines were Yeah, the steamboat, the

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<v Speaker 1>steamboat Fulton. Yeah, so steamboat Fulton was not He was

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<v Speaker 1>not a direct descendant of Robert Fulton, the steamboat engineer. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Robert Fulton, I believe had one son who never had

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<v Speaker 1>any kids, but several daughters. But obviously you wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 1>the last name Fulton through that line, So we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>like a cousin distantly related in that sense. But still

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<v Speaker 1>his dad was a friend to a certain Thomas Edison,

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<v Speaker 1>which is why Edison had had the Edison in his name. Um, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I would guess that if it were Robert Nicola Fulton,

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<v Speaker 1>we would all be just fawning over him because of

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<v Speaker 1>Tesla's and I know we both lost some geek cred

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<v Speaker 1>there I think anyway, His version was an aluminum body

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<v Speaker 1>car that had detachable fabric wings to turn it into

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<v Speaker 1>a light plane, and it also had a detachable propeller

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<v Speaker 1>that would serve as propulsion. And they built four prototypes

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<v Speaker 1>but it never went into production. UM and the following year,

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<v Speaker 1>Consolidated Vaulty developed the convert Car, which was a two

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<v Speaker 1>door sedan with detachable airplane unit. So in this case,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like an entire kind of airplane kit that you

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<v Speaker 1>could fit on top of this car. And they had

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<v Speaker 1>some success, at least, well, they had limited early success

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<v Speaker 1>with their with their tests. Didn't think, Yeah, yeah, they

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<v Speaker 1>had two successful tests. Um, they had two successful tests.

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<v Speaker 1>Improved they could they could fly for about an hour

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<v Speaker 1>and travel it around forty five seventy two I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>not forty five. I could travel a total distance of

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<v Speaker 1>forty five miles or seventy two kilometers on a gallon

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<v Speaker 1>of gas. Us. But it was pretty good. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>to flights going pretty slow, but unfortunately the third flight

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<v Speaker 1>not so successful. Yeah, and that that was pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the project, right. They were trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get some marketing dollars behind it. After the crash that

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<v Speaker 1>was a complete disaster for them, and it was it

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<v Speaker 1>was scrapped. They decided not to go forward with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Molten B. Taylor builds the Arrow Car, which was actually

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<v Speaker 1>inspired by Robert Edison Fulton Junior's design. It also had

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<v Speaker 1>detachable wings and a detachable tail so they could stash

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<v Speaker 1>those in a in a trailer. Yeah, this is one

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<v Speaker 1>of those that you would put all those parts in

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<v Speaker 1>a trailer, tow it to the airport, then take everything out,

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<v Speaker 1>assemble it on the car. And according to the Wall

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<v Speaker 1>Street Journal, a practiced owner could assemble the Erow car

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<v Speaker 1>from into flying form within ten minutes. Ten minutes to

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<v Speaker 1>turn into an airplane. I can't assemble a microwave dinner

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<v Speaker 1>and ten I don't. I certainly anyone who watched me

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<v Speaker 1>play Minecraft knows ten minutes is not enough time for

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<v Speaker 1>me to assemble anything. This was another tail end propeller. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and it looks like a mini car and only six

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<v Speaker 1>were ever built. In fact, one of them I think

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<v Speaker 1>was current, was on the market recently for just over

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<v Speaker 1>like a million dollars or something like. It actually looks

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<v Speaker 1>very quaint, like it looks like a quaint little antique

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<v Speaker 1>car that for some reason has had an airplane tail

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<v Speaker 1>merged onto the end of it and wings that sprouted

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<v Speaker 1>out of it. So yeah, but if you, if you,

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<v Speaker 1>you could easily imagine removing those and it would look

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<v Speaker 1>like a little Yeah. So this one was more of

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<v Speaker 1>a car, although again you could not, you know, effortlessly

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<v Speaker 1>convert to flying form, which is really what we're going

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<v Speaker 1>for here, right. We want a car that you could

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<v Speaker 1>drive on the streets and then when traffic is getting

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<v Speaker 1>really badly you put sug button and it transforms like

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<v Speaker 1>in an anime, and it would be a while and

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<v Speaker 1>still would will be a while before we'd see something

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<v Speaker 1>like that. Uh So, nineteen sixty, Paul Mahler introduces the

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<v Speaker 1>x M two. Now Maller will be well, we'll go

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<v Speaker 1>ahead and tell Mahler's story. It's kind of a disappointing story.

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<v Speaker 1>But the x M two was the first prototype of

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<v Speaker 1>his sky car concept that one would hover, but he

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't get it to fly. So he would continue to

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of refine this design, and in nine was

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<v Speaker 1>the first one. Nine he introduces the M two hundred X,

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<v Speaker 1>which could fly in an altitude of about fifteen meters

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<v Speaker 1>or around fifty feet, and then he would later introduce

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<v Speaker 1>the sky car M four hundred, which is a vertical

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<v Speaker 1>takeoff and landing aircraft vt o L vertical takeoff or

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<v Speaker 1>landing really, which could reach speeds theoretically of four hundred

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<v Speaker 1>miles per hour or six hundred forty four kilometers power.

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<v Speaker 1>But the cruising speed. Yeah, can you imagine your average

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<v Speaker 1>motorists controlling a vehicle traveling traveling at that speed, I

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<v Speaker 1>literally cannot have the cruising speed. Now that was the

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<v Speaker 1>top speed. The cruising speed was three miles per Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>well that's much better, yeah, or five hundred sixty three

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<v Speaker 1>kilometers per hour. Fuel for the vehicle included simple simple

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<v Speaker 1>household items yasolene was one diesel okay, alcohol okay, kerosene

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<v Speaker 1>and propane all at the same time. Yeah. Well it's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because it was using some pretty powerful sure

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<v Speaker 1>which which also yeah, exactly, the average voters just has

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<v Speaker 1>those lying around all right, exactly. You know, you can

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<v Speaker 1>just go to one filling station and find all of those.

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<v Speaker 1>Some filling stations you might, but not many had a

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<v Speaker 1>range of about nine hundred miles, which is about hundred

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<v Speaker 1>fifty kilometers. Is that the same as it's car mode range.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh no, no, it's Kira mode at a mileage of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty miles per gallon or thirty two point two kilometers

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<v Speaker 1>per gallon. I know, really usually do leaders per kilometer,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's only so much conversion I can do. Guys,

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<v Speaker 1>I have to apologize for my American nous. But the

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<v Speaker 1>initial price for the M four hundred was quoted to

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<v Speaker 1>be a millions Macarou's one million bucks. But the promises

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<v Speaker 1>of Muller never quite panned out. So in two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>three they did a demonstration where the M four hundred hovered,

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<v Speaker 1>but it hovered on a tether like it was tethered

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<v Speaker 1>to the ground. It did not fly. Um, so it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't really awe inspiring or giving a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>confidence in the project. And in fact, by two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>nine they still didn't have a flying car to show off,

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<v Speaker 1>and Maller ended up filing for personal protection under Chapter

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<v Speaker 1>eleven as in bankruptcy. Turned out apparently the company had

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<v Speaker 1>spent something like one hundred million dollars over forty years

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get this flying car designed to work, and

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<v Speaker 1>it had not happened hundred million bucks. So yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>was definitely a tough, tough story. Now, Maller, while he

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<v Speaker 1>filed for protection under Chapter eleven, the company, Maller International

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<v Speaker 1>is still from why I understand, still operating in a

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<v Speaker 1>very limited capacity. So the company didn't go away, but

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<v Speaker 1>Maller certainly had to look for some financial protection after

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<v Speaker 1>after just not being able to turn this around. Now

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<v Speaker 1>that leads us up to the last one we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about before our break. Uh. It dates back

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<v Speaker 1>to two thousand one, the Skywriter X two R. So

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<v Speaker 1>this one is designed by Macro Industries Incorporated, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>another VT O L type of vehicle, and this one

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<v Speaker 1>uses ducted fans as propulsion instead of propellers. So, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it kind of looks like like a casual glance, you

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<v Speaker 1>would look and say, oh, those are turbines, but they're

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<v Speaker 1>not actually turbines. So it's around casing. On the inside

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<v Speaker 1>of this casing is a fan blade and those fans

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<v Speaker 1>turn and provide the lift, and you can tilt the

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<v Speaker 1>ducts in different directions so that you can do the

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<v Speaker 1>vertical takeoff and landing, or tilt them forward so that

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<v Speaker 1>you get that forward propulsion like I like a hover carrier. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a little hover carrier thing. According to the website,

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<v Speaker 1>they were the car would have lots of dynamic routing information,

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<v Speaker 1>so it would allow it to plan out a route

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<v Speaker 1>that would keep it clear from the pathway of other

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<v Speaker 1>flying car motorists, because they actually said their goal is

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<v Speaker 1>to make the flying car reality for the average consumer.

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<v Speaker 1>But of course, you know, to you and I, we

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<v Speaker 1>just sit there and think about Atlanta traffic right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Just imagine the traffic that's passing past our building right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you guys can hear it. I know you can

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<v Speaker 1>well imagine all of that traffic in the air. That's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of terrifying, completely terrifying. Although by two thousand one,

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<v Speaker 1>certainly we were starting to get into computer systems that

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<v Speaker 1>would at least help you detect some of that little right.

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<v Speaker 1>So the idea is that it would have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of automated systems to help prevent collisions, to help you

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<v Speaker 1>plan a flight path that wouldn't put you across someone

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<v Speaker 1>else's flight path. Uh, you know, And of course as

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<v Speaker 1>technology has advanced, we've got better with like collision detection

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<v Speaker 1>and prevention, that kind of stuff. Automated systems that can

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<v Speaker 1>take over in case a manual accident is about to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>So things have gotten to the point where you could

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<v Speaker 1>kind of see a reality here, but it's one that's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of early. Yeah yeah, And you know, I I

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<v Speaker 1>heard a little bit about this and it sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>a kind of solid plan. Where did did this one

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<v Speaker 1>actually happen? They said that the first models of this

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<v Speaker 1>car would be available within five years the project receiving

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<v Speaker 1>adequate funding. As far as they can tell, the project

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<v Speaker 1>has yet to receive what they call adequate funding, So uh,

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<v Speaker 1>that five years is kind of the perpetual five years

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<v Speaker 1>off from now, just like most technological advances are ten

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<v Speaker 1>to forty years away, and it's it's always gonna yeah. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they'll end up getting enough funding where they'll become

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<v Speaker 1>a real player in the space, but as far as

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<v Speaker 1>I can tell, it's kind of one of those vaporware

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<v Speaker 1>type things. And was this another one that was more

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<v Speaker 1>more like an aircraft that drives than a Yeah yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it looks more like a plane than it

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<v Speaker 1>does a car. It looks like it looks like a

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<v Speaker 1>plane that's small enough when everything folds up for it

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<v Speaker 1>to fit into your garage, as opposed to a car

0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:15.639
<v Speaker 1>that can turn into a flying machine. It looks like

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<v Speaker 1>a plane that can be driven on the roads right, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and not the kind of thing that you'd expect to

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<v Speaker 1>take out onto the highways and drive around in traffic. Right. Hi, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>it's Jonathan from twenty. I apologize for my hovering. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a flying card joke. But we need to take a

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<v Speaker 1>quick break, all right, So we're back now. The next

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<v Speaker 1>car on our list is one of my favorites because

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<v Speaker 1>it's so different from all the other ones we've been

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<v Speaker 1>mentioning so far. Like all the ones we've talked about

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<v Speaker 1>either had some sort of VT O L system where

0:17:54.720 --> 0:17:57.320
<v Speaker 1>they were going to hover and take off and then

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<v Speaker 1>fly forward, right, which I'm actually kind of impressed by.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that that a vto L would be a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more difficult to engineer, and therefore, yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>got some challenges, but it would assume you could get

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<v Speaker 1>it to work, it would be way easier for your

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<v Speaker 1>average driver, right, because it wouldn't mean that you wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have to go find a long strap in air strips

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<v Speaker 1>so that you could get up to enough speed to

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<v Speaker 1>get lift and then take off. This would allow you

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<v Speaker 1>to convenient Yeah, Yeah, you're at a standstill, you lift up,

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<v Speaker 1>you fly off where you want to go. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think you need to be at a standstill with some

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like hundred feet of clear space around you

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<v Speaker 1>so that you didn't you know, destroy your surrounding. My

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<v Speaker 1>precision is amazing. I am fully confident I could take

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<v Speaker 1>off from like a crowded parking lot with tiny scratches. Maybe.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're talking about now the Parajet skycr and the

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<v Speaker 1>Parajet skycar is one of my favorites. Parajet, you kind

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<v Speaker 1>of get the feeling here. There's a para sail or

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<v Speaker 1>a parachute that is attached to essentially a dune buggy.

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<v Speaker 1>So it looks like something that came out out of

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<v Speaker 1>Mad Max, right, like, you know, you could take this

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<v Speaker 1>to the Thunderdome in style and um, and it has

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<v Speaker 1>this para sale that you can deploy, and on the

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<v Speaker 1>very back of the dune buggy is an enormous fan.

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<v Speaker 1>So it looks a lot like like like one of

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<v Speaker 1>those everglades and boat boats and the kind of archer likes,

0:19:19.200 --> 0:19:21.200
<v Speaker 1>yeah exactly would be one of those. So it's the

0:19:21.240 --> 0:19:23.280
<v Speaker 1>stune buggy with the fan on the back. And the

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<v Speaker 1>parasale that you deploy, And the way it works is

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<v Speaker 1>that you would if you wanted to actually fly, you

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<v Speaker 1>would take the parasale part out, lay it behind the car,

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<v Speaker 1>start up your fan, and then start driving and once

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<v Speaker 1>you hit about thirty seven miles per hour or sixty

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<v Speaker 1>kilometers per hour, you would have enough lift there from

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<v Speaker 1>the para sale to lift off the ground and use

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<v Speaker 1>the fan to control your pitch and your role. That

0:19:49.680 --> 0:19:53.280
<v Speaker 1>sounds so terrifying but wonderful. The videos of this thing

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<v Speaker 1>I absolutely adore. Now, granted again you don't have any wings,

0:19:57.280 --> 0:20:01.120
<v Speaker 1>so it's not like a you know, air lane slash car.

0:20:01.280 --> 0:20:03.160
<v Speaker 1>This is a car that has a pair of sale

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<v Speaker 1>and a propeller on it. That's pretty much what you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about. And it sounds like it would still count

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<v Speaker 1>as a as a light sport vehicle. Yes, yes, you

0:20:11.480 --> 0:20:13.840
<v Speaker 1>would have to have sport aircraft. You have to have

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<v Speaker 1>a light sport aircraft piloting license to to be able

0:20:17.119 --> 0:20:21.080
<v Speaker 1>to fly this legally. Obviously there in fact, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the ones we're going to talk about, the earlier

0:20:22.560 --> 0:20:25.719
<v Speaker 1>ones we were talking about, never really got beyond prototype

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<v Speaker 1>or concept, so it was kind of right, right, they

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<v Speaker 1>never had to think about this kind of thing. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure that the regulations of the f a A

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<v Speaker 1>were a lot lighter when the f A didn't exist,

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<v Speaker 1>so there's some probably helped. The next one we'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>about has kind of a very uh lase attitude about

0:20:42.440 --> 0:20:45.159
<v Speaker 1>air regulations, but I'll mention that when we get into it.

0:20:45.200 --> 0:20:46.879
<v Speaker 1>So this one, you would actually have to have a

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<v Speaker 1>pilot's license to operate in flying mode, but a sport

0:20:50.080 --> 0:20:53.800
<v Speaker 1>pilot license, which I believe it's a little different from it.

0:20:54.400 --> 0:20:56.639
<v Speaker 1>They are different classes, just like there are different classes

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<v Speaker 1>of motorist licenses, there are different classes of pilot licenses, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And since a light sport aircraft is I think you

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<v Speaker 1>have visual site rules on that one, so it's right,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's small enough, it can only be a one

0:21:10.640 --> 0:21:13.440
<v Speaker 1>or two seater just the pilot and up to one passenger.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, max weight of like six which is one thousand,

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<v Speaker 1>three twenty pounds, and a max speed of a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and twenty nuts, which is like a hundred and thirty

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<v Speaker 1>eight miles per hour or two d and two kilometers

0:21:24.920 --> 0:21:27.600
<v Speaker 1>per hour. So it's going relatively by the speed of

0:21:27.640 --> 0:21:30.960
<v Speaker 1>planes slow, right, and so all you really need is

0:21:31.000 --> 0:21:36.000
<v Speaker 1>a driver's license and a this this sport pilot certifications.

0:21:36.440 --> 0:21:39.080
<v Speaker 1>You don't need the full medical thing where a doctor

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<v Speaker 1>approved by the f A comes out and says like, yes,

0:21:41.640 --> 0:21:44.199
<v Speaker 1>you are mentally and physically fit to pilot. Right, you

0:21:44.200 --> 0:21:47.200
<v Speaker 1>can be as unstable as you like as long as

0:21:47.240 --> 0:21:49.440
<v Speaker 1>you don't because the damage that you'll create a few

0:21:49.520 --> 0:21:53.280
<v Speaker 1>crash is relatively small. The Parajet skycar, it's top speed

0:21:53.359 --> 0:21:55.760
<v Speaker 1>is well within those parameters. Is that a hundred fifteen

0:21:55.760 --> 0:21:58.320
<v Speaker 1>miles per hour or about a hundred eighty five kilometers

0:21:58.320 --> 0:22:01.639
<v Speaker 1>per hour on the ground. In the scare, it's fifty

0:22:01.640 --> 0:22:04.359
<v Speaker 1>five miles per hour or nine kilometers per hour. And

0:22:04.520 --> 0:22:06.919
<v Speaker 1>that's not a big surprise. You're flying by para sale.

0:22:06.920 --> 0:22:09.640
<v Speaker 1>It's not like not like like you got a turbojet.

0:22:10.280 --> 0:22:12.240
<v Speaker 1>A gallon of gas will take it about fifty six

0:22:12.280 --> 0:22:14.640
<v Speaker 1>point five miles on the ground or two hundred nautical

0:22:14.720 --> 0:22:18.879
<v Speaker 1>miles in the sky. And it costs one hundred nineteen

0:22:19.200 --> 0:22:23.760
<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars for a dune buggy, which is high for

0:22:23.760 --> 0:22:26.800
<v Speaker 1>a dune bug gam sure, but it's approximately average for

0:22:26.880 --> 0:22:30.399
<v Speaker 1>light sport. So this, when you think about this, this

0:22:30.680 --> 0:22:32.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, first you say Oh, this is kind of

0:22:32.359 --> 0:22:34.920
<v Speaker 1>a weird thing for people to spend money on, but

0:22:35.000 --> 0:22:38.840
<v Speaker 1>it's actually something that has been used for first responders

0:22:38.920 --> 0:22:42.440
<v Speaker 1>and disasters. They've used them to get medicine to remote

0:22:42.440 --> 0:22:45.239
<v Speaker 1>locations because you can fly it and then land it

0:22:45.280 --> 0:22:47.680
<v Speaker 1>and then drive over rough terrain because it's a dune bugge.

0:22:48.320 --> 0:22:50.880
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, you can get to places that might need

0:22:51.520 --> 0:22:54.639
<v Speaker 1>medical relief or other disaster relief. And it's actually become

0:22:54.680 --> 0:22:57.560
<v Speaker 1>a useful tool. So while we kind of laugh about

0:22:57.600 --> 0:23:00.240
<v Speaker 1>some of these designs because they're either impractical or they

0:23:00.400 --> 0:23:04.520
<v Speaker 1>they're crazy extravagant, this one actually had a practical use.

0:23:05.119 --> 0:23:08.000
<v Speaker 1>We will return to this classic episode about Where's my

0:23:08.040 --> 0:23:10.120
<v Speaker 1>Flying Car in just a moment, but first let's take

0:23:10.280 --> 0:23:20.119
<v Speaker 1>another quick break. That's more than I can say for

0:23:20.240 --> 0:23:24.119
<v Speaker 1>the pal V one, which is a three wheeled vehicle

0:23:24.280 --> 0:23:27.520
<v Speaker 1>that converts into a gyrocopter. I I don't know what

0:23:27.560 --> 0:23:29.960
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about. I want one of these right now. Okay,

0:23:30.000 --> 0:23:32.119
<v Speaker 1>So it looks like a have you ever seen the

0:23:32.160 --> 0:23:35.400
<v Speaker 1>Mono tracer? You might not have. There's actually one in Atlanta,

0:23:35.440 --> 0:23:37.880
<v Speaker 1>and I think they only ever made something like seventy

0:23:37.920 --> 0:23:40.040
<v Speaker 1>of them. I do not believe that I have seen it.

0:23:40.320 --> 0:23:43.239
<v Speaker 1>Have you seen tron? Do you know what the light

0:23:43.320 --> 0:23:45.879
<v Speaker 1>cycle and tron looks like? That's all right, that's a

0:23:45.880 --> 0:23:48.440
<v Speaker 1>mono tracer and if you just make a couple of adjustments,

0:23:48.480 --> 0:23:50.720
<v Speaker 1>that's essentially what the pal v one looks like. But

0:23:50.760 --> 0:23:52.800
<v Speaker 1>instead of two wheels, it's step three. It's got two

0:23:52.800 --> 0:23:54.919
<v Speaker 1>in the back, one in the front. It handles like

0:23:54.960 --> 0:24:00.199
<v Speaker 1>a motorcycle, and the gyrocopter rotor folds down and the

0:24:00.200 --> 0:24:03.920
<v Speaker 1>tail folds in to make it a pretty compact vehicle.

0:24:04.320 --> 0:24:07.439
<v Speaker 1>So when you decide that you want to go flying around,

0:24:07.480 --> 0:24:10.760
<v Speaker 1>you drive it over to an airport, you unfold the

0:24:10.840 --> 0:24:13.840
<v Speaker 1>rotor and the tail, and then once the road gets going,

0:24:13.880 --> 0:24:16.720
<v Speaker 1>it's self propelling. Relates a gyrocopter will have to do

0:24:16.760 --> 0:24:21.000
<v Speaker 1>a whole episode on how gyrocopters were, absolutely, but it

0:24:21.200 --> 0:24:24.000
<v Speaker 1>can then do a you know, a vertical takeoff because

0:24:24.080 --> 0:24:26.400
<v Speaker 1>it's just like any other gyrocopter and you can fly

0:24:26.440 --> 0:24:29.240
<v Speaker 1>it around. And this is where the blase attitude comes in.

0:24:29.320 --> 0:24:32.080
<v Speaker 1>They say, like, you know, it's designed to fly around

0:24:32.240 --> 0:24:36.880
<v Speaker 1>or below four thousand feet, which is about which that's

0:24:37.000 --> 0:24:39.679
<v Speaker 1>under the visual flight rules traffic, meaning you don't have

0:24:39.720 --> 0:24:41.920
<v Speaker 1>to have lots of instruments you can. You can fly

0:24:42.119 --> 0:24:45.400
<v Speaker 1>by sight, right, your cabin doesn't have to be pressurized

0:24:45.760 --> 0:24:47.760
<v Speaker 1>at that at that height, and you're not really going

0:24:47.800 --> 0:24:51.600
<v Speaker 1>to be interfering with commercial Yeah, and they essentially say that,

0:24:51.720 --> 0:24:55.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, at that height, the government doesn't really care,

0:24:55.400 --> 0:24:59.879
<v Speaker 1>so have fun. That's essentially what the messages. I'm not

0:25:00.119 --> 0:25:02.320
<v Speaker 1>if that is accurate. I think that there's a problem.

0:25:02.720 --> 0:25:04.800
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of terrifying. Really. It can reach top speeds

0:25:04.840 --> 0:25:08.119
<v Speaker 1>of a hundred twelve miles prour or KOs prower on

0:25:08.280 --> 0:25:12.960
<v Speaker 1>land or in the air. So uh yeah, terrifying no

0:25:13.000 --> 0:25:15.280
<v Speaker 1>matter how you put it. But it looks awesome. I

0:25:15.320 --> 0:25:17.480
<v Speaker 1>mean the pictures and everything the video is is really

0:25:18.000 --> 0:25:20.200
<v Speaker 1>it's a ton of fun. So they have made prototypes.

0:25:20.560 --> 0:25:23.800
<v Speaker 1>These exist, Yeah, you could get one of these. Uh.

0:25:23.840 --> 0:25:26.920
<v Speaker 1>Then there's the aero Mobile V two point five, which

0:25:26.960 --> 0:25:30.560
<v Speaker 1>is another propeller driven aircraft that also acts as a car,

0:25:30.760 --> 0:25:34.560
<v Speaker 1>so really plane first, car second as a car. The

0:25:34.560 --> 0:25:37.480
<v Speaker 1>wings for this aircraft fold back along the fuselage, so

0:25:37.920 --> 0:25:41.800
<v Speaker 1>it's not detachable. They actually fold and they create this

0:25:41.880 --> 0:25:45.240
<v Speaker 1>kind of funky elongated car body. Because the wings are

0:25:45.520 --> 0:25:48.239
<v Speaker 1>they're not necessarily short, so the whole car is a

0:25:48.280 --> 0:25:50.720
<v Speaker 1>long car and The very back of the car is

0:25:50.720 --> 0:25:53.040
<v Speaker 1>also kind of funky. It has this sort of uh,

0:25:53.080 --> 0:25:54.960
<v Speaker 1>these tail fins that pop out of the back, so

0:25:55.040 --> 0:25:58.720
<v Speaker 1>the tail of the aircraft think of like a horizontal

0:25:58.920 --> 0:26:01.479
<v Speaker 1>tail with two verb cool tail fins that pop up

0:26:01.720 --> 0:26:04.600
<v Speaker 1>directly under those tail fins are the rear wheels for

0:26:04.760 --> 0:26:07.000
<v Speaker 1>the Aero Mobile two point five. So what you're saying

0:26:07.040 --> 0:26:08.840
<v Speaker 1>is that if you drop your middle school or off

0:26:08.880 --> 0:26:10.960
<v Speaker 1>in this car, they're gonna make their there. They're gonna

0:26:10.960 --> 0:26:13.680
<v Speaker 1>get a lot of wedgies. Possibly they're either going to

0:26:13.760 --> 0:26:15.919
<v Speaker 1>be told that they have the coolest parent ever, or

0:26:15.960 --> 0:26:18.640
<v Speaker 1>they're going to be ostracized for the rest of their lives.

0:26:18.680 --> 0:26:21.160
<v Speaker 1>It's middle school. That's kind of how it goes. So,

0:26:21.320 --> 0:26:23.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, really, if it weren't that, it'd

0:26:23.200 --> 0:26:26.800
<v Speaker 1>be something else. Um there. This one has a double

0:26:26.840 --> 0:26:29.359
<v Speaker 1>steering wheel, which I thought was really cool. The outer

0:26:29.440 --> 0:26:32.399
<v Speaker 1>steering wheel is designed to drive the car and the

0:26:32.520 --> 0:26:34.800
<v Speaker 1>inter steering wheel is designed to drive it when it's

0:26:34.800 --> 0:26:36.359
<v Speaker 1>in the air. So it's a steering wheel, not a

0:26:36.400 --> 0:26:39.320
<v Speaker 1>not a joystick for the air travel exactly. And it's

0:26:39.880 --> 0:26:43.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, I guess too. To conserve space, they built

0:26:43.840 --> 0:26:47.240
<v Speaker 1>two in one. Um I don't. I haven't seen pictures

0:26:47.240 --> 0:26:49.359
<v Speaker 1>of how this looks, so I don't know exactly, Like

0:26:49.400 --> 0:26:51.199
<v Speaker 1>if the second one, the one in the middle, if

0:26:51.240 --> 0:26:53.800
<v Speaker 1>it projects out a little bit, I would imagine when

0:26:53.800 --> 0:26:56.080
<v Speaker 1>I have to. Otherwise I can't. I can't see how

0:26:56.160 --> 0:26:59.520
<v Speaker 1>you would be able to manipulate it. But the description

0:26:59.560 --> 0:27:02.080
<v Speaker 1>I thought was really interesting. And you just you push

0:27:02.080 --> 0:27:04.880
<v Speaker 1>a button to go into aircraft mode and that makes

0:27:04.880 --> 0:27:07.800
<v Speaker 1>the wings unfold and they lock into aircraft position. And

0:27:07.840 --> 0:27:09.639
<v Speaker 1>you would have to do this at an airport. This

0:27:09.720 --> 0:27:12.000
<v Speaker 1>is one of those those cars where you would have

0:27:12.000 --> 0:27:14.600
<v Speaker 1>to drive it to an airport, get on the landing strip,

0:27:14.880 --> 0:27:17.000
<v Speaker 1>unfolded wings until they're locked into place, and then you

0:27:17.040 --> 0:27:20.040
<v Speaker 1>could drive until you reach liftoff speed and take off.

0:27:20.440 --> 0:27:23.280
<v Speaker 1>So you couldn't just do this on the street. That

0:27:23.280 --> 0:27:26.960
<v Speaker 1>would be bad um. And it has a top speed

0:27:27.000 --> 0:27:29.199
<v Speaker 1>of a hundred and twenty four miles per hour or

0:27:29.200 --> 0:27:32.200
<v Speaker 1>two hundred kilometers per hour when it's an airplane mode,

0:27:32.600 --> 0:27:34.719
<v Speaker 1>and has a range of about four d thirty miles

0:27:34.800 --> 0:27:38.399
<v Speaker 1>or seven kilometers and according to the designer, who is

0:27:38.520 --> 0:27:41.879
<v Speaker 1>Stefan Kleine. Stefan says that you can refuel this at

0:27:41.920 --> 0:27:44.760
<v Speaker 1>any standard gas station which suggests that it is actually

0:27:44.840 --> 0:27:48.160
<v Speaker 1>using regular gasoline or diesel, one of the two. It's

0:27:48.200 --> 0:27:51.720
<v Speaker 1>not using any kind of airplane fuel. Automotive fuel is

0:27:51.840 --> 0:27:54.600
<v Speaker 1>becoming for especially for these small sport craft, a more

0:27:54.600 --> 0:27:57.280
<v Speaker 1>popular choice from what I've been reading right now. This

0:27:57.320 --> 0:27:59.479
<v Speaker 1>one has not yet been certified by the government, but

0:27:59.560 --> 0:28:02.160
<v Speaker 1>we imagine that it would probably fall under the same

0:28:02.200 --> 0:28:06.040
<v Speaker 1>certification as other UH flying cars have under the light

0:28:06.080 --> 0:28:09.680
<v Speaker 1>sport aircraft designation, So uh this would also be another

0:28:09.680 --> 0:28:11.399
<v Speaker 1>one where you would have to have that pilot license

0:28:11.520 --> 0:28:13.760
<v Speaker 1>or to operate it. The wingspan on this thing is

0:28:13.760 --> 0:28:16.680
<v Speaker 1>twenty seven feet wide or eight point two meters, which

0:28:16.720 --> 0:28:19.080
<v Speaker 1>is why I say it's an aircraft first in a

0:28:19.119 --> 0:28:22.160
<v Speaker 1>car second, because you know, at twenty seven feet when

0:28:22.160 --> 0:28:23.960
<v Speaker 1>you fold that back, that means that car has to

0:28:23.960 --> 0:28:26.560
<v Speaker 1>be pretty long. It's it does not look like a car.

0:28:27.080 --> 0:28:29.199
<v Speaker 1>Like you. You look at this and you think, I

0:28:29.200 --> 0:28:31.000
<v Speaker 1>don't know what it is, but it's not a car.

0:28:32.080 --> 0:28:34.280
<v Speaker 1>It sounds like not that many of these that we've

0:28:34.320 --> 0:28:37.080
<v Speaker 1>been talking about would look like cars in any kind

0:28:37.119 --> 0:28:39.360
<v Speaker 1>of yeah, this car shape. I think a lot of

0:28:39.400 --> 0:28:44.680
<v Speaker 1>these would go to amateur pilots who have a lot

0:28:44.800 --> 0:28:49.560
<v Speaker 1>of income. Pretty typical of amateur pilots anyway, because it's

0:28:49.560 --> 0:28:52.600
<v Speaker 1>expensive to be a pilot. Oh sure, sure, but you know,

0:28:52.720 --> 0:28:54.720
<v Speaker 1>and and there there is a problem of many of

0:28:54.760 --> 0:28:57.000
<v Speaker 1>the public airports that you can land in. Once you

0:28:57.080 --> 0:28:59.320
<v Speaker 1>land there, there's no public transportation that goes out of

0:28:59.360 --> 0:29:01.360
<v Speaker 1>them there. They're too small to have even like a

0:29:01.400 --> 0:29:03.440
<v Speaker 1>taxi stand or something like that. So so you need

0:29:03.520 --> 0:29:05.800
<v Speaker 1>to and it can be a pain if you if

0:29:05.840 --> 0:29:08.120
<v Speaker 1>you fly your plane somewhere and you want to immediately

0:29:08.120 --> 0:29:12.760
<v Speaker 1>go elsewhere. Therefore, this thing that you could drive on

0:29:12.800 --> 0:29:17.160
<v Speaker 1>the ground as well as in the air, bass more

0:29:17.200 --> 0:29:21.000
<v Speaker 1>expensive than any other thing you could speaking of. More

0:29:21.040 --> 0:29:24.800
<v Speaker 1>expensive actually you have. All right, So here's the grand

0:29:24.880 --> 0:29:26.720
<v Speaker 1>daddy of flying cars. This is the one that's been

0:29:26.720 --> 0:29:32.680
<v Speaker 1>the news recently, right, Yeah, the Terrafugia UM trans transition. Yes,

0:29:32.720 --> 0:29:35.120
<v Speaker 1>why do I always forget that word? It's really it's

0:29:35.120 --> 0:29:37.640
<v Speaker 1>a transition. It's it's kind of built for a purpose

0:29:37.680 --> 0:29:42.200
<v Speaker 1>of transitioning from car to airplane airplane. Uh yeah. The

0:29:42.600 --> 0:29:47.520
<v Speaker 1>Terrafugia tagline is we are driven to fly, which apparently

0:29:47.560 --> 0:29:52.640
<v Speaker 1>I wrote the tagline. Someone there is very like minded

0:29:52.640 --> 0:29:58.360
<v Speaker 1>to you that that's terrifying. UM. Their their first model

0:29:58.360 --> 0:30:01.000
<v Speaker 1>This transition has been in development for seven years. As

0:30:01.040 --> 0:30:06.440
<v Speaker 1>of flight testing finally occurred in UM they are taking

0:30:06.520 --> 0:30:11.240
<v Speaker 1>pre orders. Uh wow, how much is it? Uh? Two

0:30:11.480 --> 0:30:15.880
<v Speaker 1>dollars I got chick my account, which you know is

0:30:15.960 --> 0:30:19.000
<v Speaker 1>high for a car. Um, it's actually really high for

0:30:19.040 --> 0:30:22.680
<v Speaker 1>a plane as well. The first car that's also a plane,

0:30:22.760 --> 0:30:25.800
<v Speaker 1>it's a steel Seeing as how your choices are so limited,

0:30:25.880 --> 0:30:29.479
<v Speaker 1>and that's almost entire I think that every single one

0:30:29.520 --> 0:30:32.320
<v Speaker 1>that we've talked about has has projected a lower price

0:30:32.360 --> 0:30:35.520
<v Speaker 1>than that's one. Um. But okay, so so this is

0:30:35.560 --> 0:30:38.680
<v Speaker 1>a this is a two seater street legal airplane that

0:30:38.800 --> 0:30:42.080
<v Speaker 1>converts between driving mode and flying mode in supposedly under

0:30:42.120 --> 0:30:44.560
<v Speaker 1>a minute. And it's a it's another press of button.

0:30:44.640 --> 0:30:48.280
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't kind of thing. Um. Yeah, it would fit

0:30:48.320 --> 0:30:52.440
<v Speaker 1>into a standard single car garage. UM has a full

0:30:52.520 --> 0:30:56.400
<v Speaker 1>vehicle parachute in case anything terrible happens at above five feet.

0:30:56.480 --> 0:31:00.840
<v Speaker 1>Very important, yes, and supposedly meets the federal motor vehicle

0:31:00.920 --> 0:31:03.680
<v Speaker 1>stand safety standards that have been put forth by the

0:31:03.880 --> 0:31:08.160
<v Speaker 1>uh National Highway Traffic and Safety Administrations. So that's that's

0:31:08.200 --> 0:31:09.800
<v Speaker 1>something else that we have to talk about. I mean

0:31:09.800 --> 0:31:13.080
<v Speaker 1>the fact that these vehicles have to meet two different

0:31:13.120 --> 0:31:15.040
<v Speaker 1>sets of standards, right, they have to meet as certain

0:31:15.040 --> 0:31:17.480
<v Speaker 1>set standards by the f a A and another one

0:31:17.560 --> 0:31:20.640
<v Speaker 1>by by the highway. You know, they have to be

0:31:20.640 --> 0:31:23.160
<v Speaker 1>both safe as cars and safe as aircraft. And that

0:31:23.320 --> 0:31:25.280
<v Speaker 1>is that is a lot of safety stuff to talk about,

0:31:25.320 --> 0:31:27.720
<v Speaker 1>which I think is one of the reasons why none

0:31:27.760 --> 0:31:30.480
<v Speaker 1>of none of this has come out of prototype, particularly yet,

0:31:31.160 --> 0:31:33.960
<v Speaker 1>especially not for consumer purchase. Now, when would these things

0:31:34.000 --> 0:31:37.520
<v Speaker 1>be available? Like, are we talking ten years? Uh, they've

0:31:37.600 --> 0:31:41.600
<v Speaker 1>they've they haven't really projected a date that I've seen. Yeah,

0:31:41.640 --> 0:31:44.400
<v Speaker 1>I saw someone saying that it might be in as

0:31:44.440 --> 0:31:49.400
<v Speaker 1>few as two years, which means by theoretically these things

0:31:49.400 --> 0:31:51.640
<v Speaker 1>could be available. And again, because it would be a

0:31:52.080 --> 0:31:54.080
<v Speaker 1>light sport aircraft, you would have to have a pilot's

0:31:54.120 --> 0:31:56.680
<v Speaker 1>license to operate it, so I assume you would also

0:31:56.720 --> 0:31:58.600
<v Speaker 1>have to drive this thing out to an airport, just

0:31:58.640 --> 0:32:00.680
<v Speaker 1>like some of the other ones we've talked about. Absolutely,

0:32:00.720 --> 0:32:04.040
<v Speaker 1>that's that's exactly the gig for this sort of thing. Um, well,

0:32:04.040 --> 0:32:05.880
<v Speaker 1>that that means that it's not going to be something

0:32:05.960 --> 0:32:08.360
<v Speaker 1>that's going to absolutely fill the skies as soon as

0:32:08.400 --> 0:32:11.440
<v Speaker 1>it rolls off the production line. No, this is also

0:32:11.560 --> 0:32:15.320
<v Speaker 1>way more of a drivable aircraft than it is a

0:32:15.560 --> 0:32:19.480
<v Speaker 1>flying flying car. Um, well, who's going to make a

0:32:19.480 --> 0:32:22.600
<v Speaker 1>flying car, Lauren, I want my flying car? Well, okay,

0:32:22.640 --> 0:32:25.080
<v Speaker 1>you know this, this this thing is actually pretty clever. Um.

0:32:25.120 --> 0:32:27.480
<v Speaker 1>The the engine is a is a very popular light

0:32:27.520 --> 0:32:30.320
<v Speaker 1>sport aircraft engine. It's called a rod Tex nine twelve.

0:32:30.440 --> 0:32:33.720
<v Speaker 1>I s um at least I assume that is that

0:32:33.920 --> 0:32:37.040
<v Speaker 1>is precisely how you say that, because I don't know

0:32:37.120 --> 0:32:39.600
<v Speaker 1>all that much about plane engines. As it turns out,

0:32:40.560 --> 0:32:42.840
<v Speaker 1>is a weird talk. It really is. I mean, this

0:32:43.120 --> 0:32:45.240
<v Speaker 1>is an engine that's really being lauded for its fuel

0:32:45.280 --> 0:32:49.200
<v Speaker 1>economy and has a whole lot of onboard computers to

0:32:49.280 --> 0:32:52.280
<v Speaker 1>run all kinds of terrific diagnostics for you that that

0:32:52.360 --> 0:32:54.520
<v Speaker 1>are going to read out in a way that's useful

0:32:54.680 --> 0:32:57.400
<v Speaker 1>even if you're not an engineer. So, so it's a

0:32:57.520 --> 0:33:01.560
<v Speaker 1>So it's a pretty cool engine. And they're they're talking

0:33:01.600 --> 0:33:04.200
<v Speaker 1>about I mean, okay when they say that it fits

0:33:04.360 --> 0:33:07.640
<v Speaker 1>in a standard single car garage, where we're talking about

0:33:07.640 --> 0:33:11.960
<v Speaker 1>a seventy eight inch or two meter tall vehicle with

0:33:12.040 --> 0:33:15.920
<v Speaker 1>a eight meter twenty six ft wingspan and six m

0:33:16.040 --> 0:33:20.080
<v Speaker 1>or nineteen ft length. Um, if you want to compare

0:33:20.080 --> 0:33:22.800
<v Speaker 1>that to say, like a camera. Um, you're you're talking

0:33:22.840 --> 0:33:26.960
<v Speaker 1>about a little bit taller about half meter inches not

0:33:26.960 --> 0:33:29.080
<v Speaker 1>not half a meter one point five ms. I was

0:33:29.120 --> 0:33:31.920
<v Speaker 1>thinking half a meter shorter, and then words didn't happen.

0:33:32.120 --> 0:33:36.640
<v Speaker 1>That's significantly shorter, alright. So it's shorter than the camera

0:33:36.720 --> 0:33:40.280
<v Speaker 1>is shorter than the camera is shorter, but it's it's

0:33:40.320 --> 0:33:42.120
<v Speaker 1>just about as long like a hundred and eighty nine

0:33:42.160 --> 0:33:46.600
<v Speaker 1>inches or five meters is what you're talking So on

0:33:46.640 --> 0:33:54.200
<v Speaker 1>a wingspan on a camera, it's about seventy two inches. Wow, man,

0:33:54.920 --> 0:33:58.120
<v Speaker 1>I have been out of the car game for too long. Uh.

0:33:58.160 --> 0:34:00.680
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, as it turns out, you know, this is

0:34:01.320 --> 0:34:05.160
<v Speaker 1>this is another one of those propeller based aircraft right

0:34:05.040 --> 0:34:07.960
<v Speaker 1>right right, it's it's a real propeller and um, and

0:34:08.239 --> 0:34:10.880
<v Speaker 1>you know it's what's interesting to me is that they're

0:34:11.000 --> 0:34:14.200
<v Speaker 1>using this single engine to to go back and forth,

0:34:14.239 --> 0:34:18.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, to to switch back and forth between powering

0:34:18.719 --> 0:34:21.239
<v Speaker 1>the car and powering the plane. Yeah. Well that's really

0:34:21.280 --> 0:34:23.520
<v Speaker 1>cool that you've got this one engine that can do

0:34:23.640 --> 0:34:26.640
<v Speaker 1>two very different jobs in the same vehicle. The fact

0:34:26.640 --> 0:34:29.560
<v Speaker 1>that it's turning a propeller and then can switch to

0:34:29.719 --> 0:34:33.560
<v Speaker 1>this other completely different drive train and control the car,

0:34:33.760 --> 0:34:35.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, give the car the propulsion it needs to

0:34:35.840 --> 0:34:38.960
<v Speaker 1>drive around. That's engineering. Feats like that that I think

0:34:39.000 --> 0:34:42.239
<v Speaker 1>are really really interesting. Even if the vehicle itself is

0:34:42.280 --> 0:34:45.080
<v Speaker 1>never a success commercially, the fact that that was an

0:34:45.120 --> 0:34:48.160
<v Speaker 1>innovation is really cool. Yeah. So the question I have

0:34:48.280 --> 0:34:51.839
<v Speaker 1>for you, Lauren, is anyone working on like a prototype

0:34:51.880 --> 0:34:54.640
<v Speaker 1>that the average driver could use to fly around? Not

0:34:54.800 --> 0:34:57.400
<v Speaker 1>someone who you know has trained as a pilot, but

0:34:57.480 --> 0:35:00.000
<v Speaker 1>someone who would just maybe a couple of hours, could

0:35:00.000 --> 0:35:02.920
<v Speaker 1>figure out how to operate this thing. Okay? Well, strangely

0:35:03.040 --> 0:35:05.880
<v Speaker 1>enough that that same company, Tara Fugia, is working on

0:35:05.920 --> 0:35:09.480
<v Speaker 1>the t f X, which is a four seat hybrid

0:35:09.520 --> 0:35:13.319
<v Speaker 1>flying car. Okay, and and and part part of my

0:35:13.320 --> 0:35:14.800
<v Speaker 1>problem with this I'm going to say right off, is

0:35:15.080 --> 0:35:18.720
<v Speaker 1>that this could not qualify as a light sport vehicle.

0:35:19.160 --> 0:35:21.360
<v Speaker 1>You would need an actual pilot license in order to

0:35:21.440 --> 0:35:24.000
<v Speaker 1>drive this because it contains a because you can carry

0:35:24.120 --> 0:35:27.440
<v Speaker 1>more than two people. Right. Also, from what I understand,

0:35:28.040 --> 0:35:31.960
<v Speaker 1>has not only propellers, which are used for vertical takeoff

0:35:31.960 --> 0:35:35.160
<v Speaker 1>and landing, so in other words, they pivot right where

0:35:35.239 --> 0:35:38.480
<v Speaker 1>they would pivot up, and they the propellers themselves fold

0:35:38.600 --> 0:35:41.799
<v Speaker 1>in on the pods that they are mounted on, So

0:35:41.840 --> 0:35:45.200
<v Speaker 1>then the pods would move up to vertical position, the

0:35:45.200 --> 0:35:49.040
<v Speaker 1>the blades would fold out, they would start to rotate,

0:35:49.120 --> 0:35:52.440
<v Speaker 1>you would gain altitude. They would then start tilting forward,

0:35:52.520 --> 0:35:55.879
<v Speaker 1>so you'd start going forward, and then it switches over

0:35:55.920 --> 0:36:02.560
<v Speaker 1>to from why I understand horsepower engine that provides thrust. Yeah,

0:36:02.640 --> 0:36:04.360
<v Speaker 1>that that rotex I was talking about is like a

0:36:04.440 --> 0:36:07.800
<v Speaker 1>hundred horsepower engine. Yeah, which is a little bit more reasonable.

0:36:07.840 --> 0:36:09.319
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's going to take you up to that

0:36:09.440 --> 0:36:13.000
<v Speaker 1>like hundred and twenty so mile per hour kind of

0:36:13.080 --> 0:36:15.320
<v Speaker 1>range that we were talking about earlier. That seems reasonable

0:36:15.400 --> 0:36:19.200
<v Speaker 1>for your average driver to handle, right, a three horsepower

0:36:19.239 --> 0:36:21.879
<v Speaker 1>engine for cruising, it says, I guess what it means

0:36:21.960 --> 0:36:24.200
<v Speaker 1>is that once you get up to a particular speed,

0:36:24.400 --> 0:36:27.920
<v Speaker 1>this engine would would switch over and you would move

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<v Speaker 1>much faster. Now. The proposal, from what I understand, also

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<v Speaker 1>involves lots of automation, to the point where practically everything

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<v Speaker 1>would be handled in the air by essentially autopilot, right,

0:36:41.040 --> 0:36:42.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, to the to the point that if the

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<v Speaker 1>computer decides that a route that you have chosen is

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<v Speaker 1>dangerous or that you are flying into undesirable territory that

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<v Speaker 1>it would declare an emergency to authorities on your behalf right,

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<v Speaker 1>and it would force you to go and land at

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<v Speaker 1>an airport. Yes, so yeah, this thing. But this thing,

0:36:58.800 --> 0:37:02.040
<v Speaker 1>because it has the VTOL approach, means that theoretically you

0:37:02.040 --> 0:37:05.360
<v Speaker 1>could take off from any location, not just in airports, right,

0:37:05.400 --> 0:37:07.360
<v Speaker 1>as long as you've got that level clearing of about

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred feet, which is right. So it's they are

0:37:11.920 --> 0:37:14.960
<v Speaker 1>supposedly working on this. They pretty much have this just

0:37:15.080 --> 0:37:18.160
<v Speaker 1>in constant drawing us. Yeah, they've they've got some shiny

0:37:18.200 --> 0:37:20.279
<v Speaker 1>computer animations of it. They said that there would be

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<v Speaker 1>something like eight or twelve eight to twelve years of

0:37:22.520 --> 0:37:25.319
<v Speaker 1>testing before this would ever become an actual thing, So

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<v Speaker 1>we are a good ways out from seeing this if

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<v Speaker 1>it ever in fact becomes real reality. I think a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of that's going to depend upon the success or

0:37:33.520 --> 0:37:36.359
<v Speaker 1>failure of the transition UM. If that ends up being

0:37:36.360 --> 0:37:38.360
<v Speaker 1>a success, that makes it more likely that they'll be

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<v Speaker 1>able to do more development on the t FX. I

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<v Speaker 1>honestly don't know what to think about this. I I

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<v Speaker 1>you know, granted, when I was a kid, I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have been able to imagine a car that could take

0:37:48.000 --> 0:37:50.960
<v Speaker 1>you door to door without you ever touching the wheel.

0:37:51.040 --> 0:37:53.200
<v Speaker 1>And yet now we're starting to see cars in the

0:37:53.239 --> 0:37:57.799
<v Speaker 1>prototype stage at various companies like Google and other and

0:37:57.880 --> 0:38:01.279
<v Speaker 1>like actual car manufacturing companies too, so we're starting to

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<v Speaker 1>see that, So maybe it's possible. It's just I think

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<v Speaker 1>that flying is way more complicated than driving. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's the thing. I mean, I really don't think that,

0:38:11.280 --> 0:38:17.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, all that autonomous car stuff is complicated enough

0:38:17.160 --> 0:38:19.200
<v Speaker 1>as it stands. We just did a whole episode of

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<v Speaker 1>Run Forward thinking about it, and so so check that

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<v Speaker 1>out if you if you want to get a full

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<v Speaker 1>breakdown of how difficult this problem really is. Although certainly, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>lots of companies are working on it, but I don't,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, between that and the fact that so many

0:38:33.800 --> 0:38:37.160
<v Speaker 1>regulations and and laws would have to be in place

0:38:37.239 --> 0:38:39.080
<v Speaker 1>in order for this to be a reality, And all

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<v Speaker 1>I would take is maybe one really bad publicity, like

0:38:43.120 --> 0:38:45.920
<v Speaker 1>like accident, even if no one was hurt, That's all

0:38:45.960 --> 0:38:51.600
<v Speaker 1>I would take for it to essentially ground everybody. So uh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't want to be doom and gloom about

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<v Speaker 1>it because I think that especially these these drivable planes

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<v Speaker 1>are a really interesting concept and I really hope that

0:39:00.719 --> 0:39:03.480
<v Speaker 1>a couple of these companies make some consumer level ones

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<v Speaker 1>for the next couple of years. Even if you know,

0:39:05.400 --> 0:39:09.280
<v Speaker 1>two seventy dollars, it's not something that this personal consumer

0:39:09.360 --> 0:39:13.120
<v Speaker 1>is ready to drop on anything. Um but but yeah,

0:39:13.200 --> 0:39:16.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's it's that that single engine clever idea

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<v Speaker 1>is is pretty awesome, and and having something that lightweight

0:39:20.640 --> 0:39:23.399
<v Speaker 1>that that you're still comfortable driving is is pretty rad

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<v Speaker 1>I you know, I am skeptical but hopeful. Let me

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<v Speaker 1>put it that way, like, if it never happens, I

0:39:29.040 --> 0:39:33.040
<v Speaker 1>won't be surprised. If it does happen, I fully expect that,

0:39:33.239 --> 0:39:35.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, for it to get cleared, it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>have to be the best of the best technology out there.

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<v Speaker 1>So hopefully we will see this within our lifetimes, in

0:39:42.040 --> 0:39:45.920
<v Speaker 1>that ten to forty years years. Absolutely, But you know,

0:39:46.040 --> 0:39:48.640
<v Speaker 1>if we don't, then I'm sure we'll figure out how

0:39:48.640 --> 0:39:52.280
<v Speaker 1>to get around traffic some other way. And that wraps

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