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Speaker 1: The Houston Rockets force a game six. The Rockets win
Speaker 1: ninety three, now excuse me, ninety nine ninety three. The
Speaker 1: fourth game six on Friday, all five Rockets scored in
Speaker 1: double figures, led by Jabbari Smith who has twenty two
Speaker 1: no KD no problem. Jabari Smith six to thirteen four
Speaker 1: nine from three twenty two, Tari E eighteen six of
Speaker 1: eleven to a six, Shing Goon fourteen points five of
Speaker 1: ninem and Thompson fifteen points. Reed Shepherd had twelve points.
Speaker 1: He played unbelievable night. Knocked down. Some big shots had
Speaker 1: a big steal to really put the game away, but
Speaker 1: even the guys came up the bench. Phinnis Smith, Aaron
Speaker 1: Holliday and Okogie played really, really well. Joe, I told
Speaker 1: you I didn't like the way the Lakers looked the
Speaker 1: other night, and it was like that, well, were.
Speaker 2: Going back home. We'll take care of that home.
Speaker 1: If you notice these guys, they do a lot more
Speaker 1: moving when Kadie's not there, because it's almost like they're
Speaker 1: looking like, Okay, let's see what Kadie's gonna do. Tonight,
Speaker 1: shing Goon got the ball. Nobody was standing around. They
Speaker 1: were diving to the rim, and they made the Lakers
Speaker 1: play on some back door cuts and over the top. Joe,
Speaker 1: what did you like about what you saw from the
Speaker 1: Houston Rockets tonight to force a game six? Joe, you muted,
Speaker 1: I'm bad.
Speaker 2: They're justins that they made un ojo where the Rockets
Speaker 2: just using their youth. Bro, the Lakers look, you know,
Speaker 2: they look stuck in mud. And that's why I tell y'all, man,
Speaker 2: it's a fine line between winning and losing and the postseason,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Lakers went to Houston one
Speaker 2: games what was that three or four? And they won
Speaker 2: game three. They was up three, oh yeah, one game
Speaker 2: three and then come back and come home. Man, you
Speaker 2: think you know, I was thinking they were trying and
Speaker 2: close these boys out, but they never They didn't even
Speaker 2: start the game like you know, like they had that off,
Speaker 2: like they was ready to put these boys away. And
Speaker 2: you give a young team like the Houston Rockets, bro life,
Speaker 2: you don't know who's gonna beat you. You don't know
Speaker 2: who gonna step up and make shots. You don't know
Speaker 2: who gonna step up and make plays. That's a hard
Speaker 2: team to game plan for, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And when you look, hell, Lakers ain't getting nothing from
Speaker 2: Luke Canard to night with thirty one minutes. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: you know what Joe he's been.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at him since the guys
Speaker 1: have been out, he's playing above his head. And we've
Speaker 1: talked about it. We've never seen him play like this before.
Speaker 1: Now maybe he hadn't got the minutes like this before,
Speaker 1: but Joe, we've never seen them. I mean, a playoff
Speaker 1: career high. He was having career highs. He was shooting
Speaker 1: the ball. He woned what third or fourth three point
Speaker 1: field goal percentage in the NBA. So at some point
Speaker 1: in time, you're gonna revert back to who you are.
Speaker 1: You are what you are, and he just reverted back
Speaker 1: to who he was. He's a role player, he's a
Speaker 1: solid role player. But you're asking him to play thirty one,
Speaker 1: thirty five, thirty six minutes. That's asking him awful lot, Joe,
Speaker 1: go ahead, continue.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, but with him, with them being at home,
Speaker 2: you know, you would think he would play a lot
Speaker 2: better than this. I mean he only took four shots
Speaker 2: in thirty one minutes. I mean, how is that even possible?
Speaker 2: Seeing that the way he's played throughout this whole entire series.
Speaker 2: You know, I thought they got I thought the Lakers
Speaker 2: got some good production from from from from different guys.
Speaker 2: But scoring ninety three points, Ojo, It's gonna be hard
Speaker 2: to win like that, Bro, It's gonna be hard to win. Really.
Speaker 1: For me, the only person that really impressed me tonight
Speaker 1: was DA. I thought, d A's this is what I've
Speaker 1: been looking for from D eight. He gave us, he
Speaker 1: gave you, he gave you eighteen and seventeen. Lebron nine
Speaker 1: or twenty from the floor. Ruy was five or eleven
Speaker 1: from the floor. Marcus Mart with three. Marcus Mart had
Speaker 1: more turnovers than assists. He was three of seven. All
Speaker 1: of his shots were from the three point line. Luke
Speaker 1: Kennard was over over two from the uh and Austin
Speaker 1: Reeves came back. He was twelve or thirteen. He was aggressive,
Speaker 1: but he was four or sixteen from the floor. It's
Speaker 1: just hard to win like that. And you look at
Speaker 1: the three point shot, they're seven to twenty seven. And
Speaker 1: I thought the Rockets knocked down some big shots. I
Speaker 1: thought they had guys in their face. Now some of
Speaker 1: the guys were open. They gotta pay, They gotta pay
Speaker 1: better attention. And the Lakers don't do a good job
Speaker 1: of defending because what happens. They get beat off the dribble,
Speaker 1: somebody comes to help, and now you got to kick
Speaker 1: in the corner or you gotta kick to the top
Speaker 1: of the key, and the guy's shooting a wide open three.
Speaker 1: They got to do a better job of staying in
Speaker 1: front of their guys. It's really that simple. And you
Speaker 1: know what, let Shin gooon goes go off, but you
Speaker 1: can't give up dunks and layups, Joe, because you're coming
Speaker 1: to double And he spins around and sees the guy
Speaker 1: dive into the and gives it to him and he
Speaker 1: either dunked the ball or layer up.
Speaker 2: Just let shin gun say.
Speaker 1: A uh d A you on your on the night, Yeah,
Speaker 1: on the night, I wondered, you gotta play you gotta
Speaker 1: play him square up? Yeah, when when you look at it,
Speaker 1: I wonder did the Lakers, you know, take Houston for
Speaker 1: granted this last Yeah? I mean you know you still
Speaker 1: know Kdie, You still ain't got a lot of your
Speaker 1: Vengero guys out. I think they thought they was gonna
Speaker 1: come out hend and just walk the dog on these boys.
Speaker 1: But the energy and effort wasn't there from the jump,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like Staples wasn't like I
Speaker 1: mean not Staples.
Speaker 2: It wasn't buzzing Crypto, It wasn't. It wasn't buzzing like
Speaker 2: it normally was. You know what I mean. They never
Speaker 2: could get the grab the crowd into it to kind
Speaker 2: of make those runs. Yeah, they try to make a
Speaker 2: late surge, but it was too late, man, it was
Speaker 2: too late. You gotta get Houston. A lot of critic
Speaker 2: give them young boys credit man to come in that
Speaker 2: hostile environment like that, knowing that they was on the
Speaker 2: brink if they if they didn't win, it was a
Speaker 2: rap and he they showed a lot of maturity tonight.
Speaker 3: Hey hey, uncle Joe, what's that man?
Speaker 4: Them boys came out flat from the beginning, obviously knowing
Speaker 4: that youth is against you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you want to come out and set the tone early.
Speaker 4: You're playing at home with the opportunity to close these
Speaker 4: young bulls out, the fact that they don't have Katie playing,
Speaker 4: you know, it should be one up. I think the
Speaker 4: inconsistencies when it comes to certain players with the Lakers.
Speaker 4: You don't know what you're gonna get in which night,
Speaker 4: DeAndre Aiden. I mean, this is what we need from
Speaker 4: you every night. No, I mean you talk about it
Speaker 4: all the time. Hell, you don't know what you're gonna
Speaker 4: get from Luke nar I mean, I like what unc said.
Speaker 4: You know, he'd been playing way above what's expected of him,
Speaker 4: so he's bound to have a night and revert back to.
Speaker 3: You know who he truly is.
Speaker 4: I mean, Lebron can only do so much, you know,
Speaker 4: Mark Smart did did what need to do and aus three.
Speaker 3: We're gonna be all three in.
Speaker 4: But they don't have anybody that can consistently you can
Speaker 4: count on and be like, this is what our number
Speaker 4: is gonna be. We just need everybody else around us
Speaker 4: to contribute just a little bit.
Speaker 2: Might be.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure how many times the team has come
Speaker 3: back three.
Speaker 1: That three, three, none, zero, one nine. It never happened, yep,
Speaker 1: but eventually it's gonna happen. And I said that said
Speaker 1: at the beginning, serious, you know, when they got up
Speaker 1: three ozer Joe, I said, nobody's ever come back. The
Speaker 1: only time it's ever happened. Well, and I think it
Speaker 1: might have happened in hockey once, but it happened in baseball.
Speaker 1: The Yankees were up three to zero in the Red Sox,
Speaker 1: and the Red Sox came back. It's never happened in basketball.
Speaker 1: But eventually it's gonna happen. Just like nobody had ever
Speaker 1: come back from three to one down in the NBA
Speaker 1: Finals and it happened. It's going to happen. The low
Speaker 1: Averages says, it's gonna happen. You just don't want it
Speaker 1: to happen to the team. That you're on or happened
Speaker 1: to the team that you happen to be rooting for.
Speaker 1: But it's going to happen eventually, and this might be
Speaker 1: the series because the Rockets have confidence.
Speaker 2: And I told you, I said, what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: They win this game, they win Game four, they go
Speaker 1: back and still game five, it says, okay, we're gonna
Speaker 1: get game six at our place. All the pressure now
Speaker 1: goes to them in Game seven. At some point in time.
Speaker 1: Lebron's gonna need He got aggressive late, but he came
Speaker 1: out again. What we trying to do. Get everybody involved,
Speaker 1: Get everybody involved. And when guys ain't making no shot,
Speaker 1: he's not a guy that can he forty one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what you could do at twenty eight, what you could
Speaker 1: do at thirty two. Get everybody involved and not getting it,
Speaker 1: get yourself going. It gets hard and harder for the
Speaker 1: old Carter Crank and Marcus Smart started off turning the
Speaker 1: ball over. Bro, you're not in church. Stop raising your
Speaker 1: hand when you turn the ball over. Just stop turning
Speaker 1: it over.
Speaker 2: I thought, I thought Marcus Smart got off to a
Speaker 2: decent start. He scored eight of the first ten points.
Speaker 2: Old y'all. I said, you know, because if he can
Speaker 2: have a big game, that'll take some pressure out Brun.
Speaker 2: But when you think about it, the longer this series
Speaker 2: goldfellas it plays in the Houston hands because they're a
Speaker 2: young team there, your team. Look, this series has been grueling,
Speaker 2: has been physical, and it's mentally it wears and tears
Speaker 2: on you. Bro like it's it's tough, you know, especially
Speaker 2: when you got Lebron at forty one and you're asking
Speaker 2: so much of him. That's a lot, man, that's a lot.
Speaker 2: I think Houston they're in a good position right now.
Speaker 2: They can go home. I know they they looking forward
Speaker 2: to winning Game six and coming back to LA for
Speaker 2: a Game seven. But I think Houston got a real
Speaker 2: shot at this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, oh yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2: Only four teams of.
Speaker 1: The teams to start three and oh, only four have
Speaker 1: ever forced the game seven.
Speaker 2: Those teams are oher and three.
Speaker 1: Even though they forced the game seven, Lebron James teams
Speaker 1: has never blown a.
Speaker 2: Two oh series lead his entire NBA career.
Speaker 1: I just look, like you said, Joe, they didn't they
Speaker 1: didn't have they didn't come out with that passion. I mean,
Speaker 1: they got a little lead and then you know, Houston
Speaker 1: took a time out.
Speaker 2: And they just hey them them damn minutes that they
Speaker 2: that they logging night in and night out. It's starting,
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, man, they're starting to catch up with.
Speaker 1: Them with Lebron. Lebron played another thirty nine minutes. Shing goo,
Speaker 1: I mean Shan Goon played forty three minutes. I'm and
Speaker 1: Thompson played. But you're talking about guys that's twenty five. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you talk about guys, I mean Lebron kids. Damn the
Speaker 1: oldest these guys. You got Jabari Smith Junior, you played
Speaker 1: forty two minutes, You got arm and Thompson played forty
Speaker 1: five minutes. Your big guys that you're counting on. Easton
Speaker 1: came in and gave him some great minutes. Tonight man
Speaker 1: eighteen points, Joe On six of eleven, two or six.
Speaker 1: He played really well before what did he file out? No,
Speaker 1: he picked up his field. They changed? Did they change it?
Speaker 1: Because I started getting the dressed when they called a
Speaker 1: charge on him and they challenged it.
Speaker 2: Did they there? They changed it? They changed he shot
Speaker 2: I think he shined free throws behind them. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: I figured that as much.
Speaker 3: Hey, hold on hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on,
Speaker 3: hold on.
Speaker 4: I just I just want to make something clear real quick, right, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: Lebron is still playing Joe, and I'm right correct, Yes, yes,
Speaker 4: you know it was his decision to play this this
Speaker 4: far into his career twenty three you know, twenty three
Speaker 4: years in the league at forty one years old. What
Speaker 4: we're not going to, we can't keep doing is using
Speaker 4: his age as a reason when things don't work out,
Speaker 4: or trying to set that up as a crush on
Speaker 4: why things didn't work out. You know, he knows, even
Speaker 4: he knows his wouldn't be the same playing at forty
Speaker 4: one years old, playing a certain amount of minutes, you know,
Speaker 4: especially being in a situation like this, So we can't
Speaker 4: keep throwing out his age all the time every time
Speaker 4: things don't go right.
Speaker 3: That's his decision, the one that played this long.
Speaker 2: Even when things go well.
Speaker 1: You're in awe that a forty one year old is
Speaker 1: doing this because we've never seen it before.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, obviously.
Speaker 1: So even even the mere fact, the mere fact that
Speaker 1: he's playing, because normally when guys are played that you
Speaker 1: look at Vince Carter, guys are averaging average five points.
Speaker 2: Yeah, points a game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's twenty, he's twenty five and five actually was
Speaker 1: twenty six, twenty point eight, seven, and I think six.
Speaker 1: So you look at what he's doing. So even yeh, yes,
Speaker 1: we're not gonna we're not saying that using that as
Speaker 1: a crutch, But even when he plays well at forty one,
Speaker 1: you have to marvel it because we've never seen we've
Speaker 1: never seen anybody play that well at forty at thirty nine,
Speaker 1: at thirty eight, and what you're asking him to do,
Speaker 1: nobody has ever been asked to do what he's doing
Speaker 1: at this age. So let that sink here for a second.
Speaker 1: You're asking him at forty one to do something. The
Speaker 1: NBA is seventy years old, and the history no eighty
Speaker 1: years old. I'll take that back, eighty years old, and
Speaker 1: we've never seen the NBA ask a player at that
Speaker 1: age to do what they're asking him to do.
Speaker 2: That's not an excuse. They have to play better.
Speaker 1: But the days of him being able to single handily
Speaker 1: put teams on his back like he did the calf
Speaker 1: against Boston, like he did against Toronto, like he did
Speaker 1: against Indiana.
Speaker 2: Those days are over. Yeah, yeah, and it's over. For
Speaker 2: a lot.
Speaker 1: KD can't carry a team like he wants could. Steph
Speaker 1: Curry can't carry a team like he once could. James
Speaker 1: Harden can't carry your team like.
Speaker 2: He once could. Sports is a young man's game, Ain,
Speaker 2: And and when you look at the game, you look
Speaker 2: down the stretch, you see how all his shots were
Speaker 2: short yep, because them legs gone. Bro, when leg's gone, okay,
Speaker 2: oh Joe, I don't I don't care who you are, bro.
Speaker 2: That that that the first thing to go when them
Speaker 2: legs gone is that jump shot. That jump shot out
Speaker 2: of It's the That's why you see a lot of
Speaker 2: his shots was at the basket, at the rim, in
Speaker 2: the paint, you know. And that's what we talk about,
Speaker 2: you know, as series goes along, because it's so physical,
Speaker 2: it's so grueling, and it's so mental. You know, it's
Speaker 2: mentally challenging that bro. It's draining. It is draining though, and.
Speaker 1: He was a great joe Y mean you you got
Speaker 1: to get him credit with you and Joe. He took
Speaker 1: to free throw teams. Ah yeah, but it's hard at
Speaker 1: his age to constantly drive, to constantly drive.
Speaker 2: He can't put pressure on you like shape shakee twenty six.
Speaker 2: So he can just.
Speaker 1: Come at and just keep coming and keep coming and
Speaker 1: keep coming at you. That's not Lebron. He got to
Speaker 1: pick and choose those spots. I agree, But he's gonna
Speaker 1: need other guys. He's gonna need Austin reed to Look,
Speaker 1: it was a great game for Often to get back.
Speaker 1: I think he'll be better in game six. It's gotta
Speaker 1: realize he's been for a month. I believe he'll be
Speaker 1: better in game six than he was in Game five. Hey,
Speaker 1: he put pressure on him. I love the way he
Speaker 1: attacked shots, just didn't go down for it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Hello, another guy that you can put in the
Speaker 2: pick and roll, who can obviously create, score, make plays
Speaker 2: for other guys. But man, it's gonna take. It's gonna
Speaker 2: take a lot for them to put this young Houston
Speaker 2: team away. Fellas.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure, because like I said, they got
Speaker 1: confidence now, they believe to say.
Speaker 2: And Joe we talked about the other night.
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, we talked about how the Cavaliers when they
Speaker 1: were down three to one, they say, Okay, let's get
Speaker 1: this game. Okay, now we're gonna go. But we hey,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get Game five there now, we're gonna come
Speaker 1: back home and get game six here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Now, all.
Speaker 1: The pressure goals on them, because no team has ever
Speaker 1: gave giving up a three to one lead in the
Speaker 1: NBA Finals. No team in NBA playoff history has given
Speaker 1: up a three zero lead. Hey, all the pressure goes
Speaker 1: to the team, especially if you're at home. You're at home.
Speaker 2: And listening to if you if okay, see they at
Speaker 2: the house like this, he'll rubbing their hands together. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Cuse as soon as y'all come out this grueling series
Speaker 2: right here against the Rockets, whoever.
Speaker 3: You gotta deal, you gotta deal with us.
Speaker 1: They probably gonna play next Tuesday, because you got Friday Sunday.
Speaker 1: Oh they playing next Tuesday. Yeah, and the damn who win?
Speaker 1: They played well, the Rockets or the Lakers. They're playing
Speaker 1: next Tuesday. NBA don't want to put the schedule out,
Speaker 1: but they playing next Tuesday. You're not going you're not
Speaker 1: getting that, but you're not going that far that much further. Hey,
Speaker 1: the boys resting, they kind of healing up some of
Speaker 1: the wounds they got. Yeah, it's gonna be a dangerous team, bro,
Speaker 1: that's I mean, that's what you don't want.
Speaker 4: Hey, younger Joe, Yes, we got regardless of who makes
Speaker 4: it out this series, whether it's the Lakers.
Speaker 1: Neither team, both teams getting swept if they play. Okay,
Speaker 1: I just.
Speaker 3: Want to see what you're gonna give it your gentleman and.
Speaker 2: Sweet No four, oh, ain't no gentleman. So you so
Speaker 2: you don't think you don't think, Okay, c gonna get
Speaker 2: a challenge until they get to the Western Conference. Uh,
Speaker 2: that is correct finals. Yes, m m. They're just too good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they just too good, too much depth ship.
Speaker 1: And that guy, that guy ahead of the Snake, you're nice.
Speaker 1: He ain't playing those silly games, is it?
Speaker 2: Man? No?
Speaker 1: No, he's an attack mode. He's an attack mode. He's
Speaker 1: an attack mode. Lakers guys are defending. They're defending. They're defending.
Speaker 1: They're defending at an elite level. Guys understand their role,
Speaker 1: they understand their responsibility. They're not envious of each other.
Speaker 1: All the guys have gotten contracts. So what hey, Check
Speaker 1: got his money, j J got his money. Obviously, Shay
Speaker 1: got his money. Hartenstein came into Fridge and so he
Speaker 1: got his money. Everybody paid and they know it's his stake,
Speaker 1: you know, to be able to go back to back.
Speaker 1: You want to be great, you got to go back
Speaker 1: to back. That's why the Spurs don't get the ready
Speaker 1: that they deserve. They won't five, but they never went
Speaker 1: back to back.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he God damn that, God damn Sja Joe.
Speaker 4: Y'all probably correct me if I'm wrong. Does his does
Speaker 4: his game.
Speaker 3: His style of play, the way he plays on the court.
Speaker 4: Does he not have that same killer mentality like Jordan's,
Speaker 4: God damn Kobe or my tripping?
Speaker 2: No, he got he got that killer instinct. You know.
Speaker 2: I think it's more of a it's more of a
Speaker 2: confidence thing. Okay, oh Jo, you know, just knowing knowing
Speaker 2: that it don't matter who y'all put on me. Bro,
Speaker 2: this dude, this dude can't check me. He can't stay
Speaker 2: in front of me. He can't stop me from getting
Speaker 2: them my spots, period, point blank. I mean here the
Speaker 2: last game in Phoenix, what he had like fifteen assists? Man,
Speaker 2: he had like fifteen assists. So he can do more
Speaker 2: than just score, I think, and he knows that with
Speaker 2: j Duve being out, he's gonna have to do a
Speaker 2: little more. You know, they're gonna have to have other
Speaker 2: guys step up. But Okay, I got I got faith
Speaker 2: in the Lakers, Bro, I think they'll win. Uh, They're
Speaker 2: probably more.
Speaker 4: Like Joe, how you got faith in the Lakers? Don't
Speaker 4: have faith in them.
Speaker 2: I'm saying, I think their answer to Bill in this
Speaker 2: series against the Rockets. That's what I'm saying. You know
Speaker 2: what I mean. Is it gonna be challenging. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: I think they have they can do it. That's what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. I think they can do it. I think
Speaker 2: Houston just being such a young team, obviously they've learned
Speaker 2: from their mistakes, and Houston could easily be up in
Speaker 2: this series. Fellas, they could easily be up in the series.
Speaker 1: So but Joe, you do realize is that because the
Speaker 1: Lakers start off so slow, when you're an older team,
Speaker 1: it's harder for you to get back. You can't sum
Speaker 1: us up that energy. Yeah, you can't get behind, Yes,
Speaker 1: fall behind. Young teams can chase you down because they
Speaker 1: got guys they can keep coming. They got their twenty
Speaker 1: six and under guys and they could just keep coming,
Speaker 1: keep coming.
Speaker 2: Right, your best player is forty one.
Speaker 1: Austin Reeve is coming back after a month, and you
Speaker 1: don't have guys that are really knocked down shooters.
Speaker 2: You got guys that are streaky and can get hot.
Speaker 2: Take that back. Luke Lenard is a shooter. You don't.
Speaker 1: You don't win a three three point percentage of the
Speaker 1: field goal percentages and not be a good three point shooter.
Speaker 1: But the other guys, Austin or the Austin breed, Marcus
Speaker 1: mart is streaky. Ruin is streaky. But when you fall behind,
Speaker 1: and you fall behind by double this is one thing
Speaker 1: if you can keep it six or seven. But when
Speaker 1: you think about it, you've got and the problem is
Speaker 1: they don't defend particularly well. So you fall behind. Joe,
Speaker 1: you make a couple of threes, Okay, you down thirteen.
Speaker 1: You make a couple of threes. Okay, you get it
Speaker 1: down to seven. Guess what happens. A lay up is nine,
Speaker 1: another layup is eleven, and you've exhalted. You've expended a
Speaker 1: lot of energy to cut it over two minutes to
Speaker 1: only willing only to whiddle the lead down two points.
Speaker 2: And that's what they did tonight. Think about it.
Speaker 1: They cut it, They cut it the three and the
Speaker 1: next thing, you know what was its back up to seven? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was too late and it burned the game. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: a couple of crucial turnovers.
Speaker 2: Yes, you know it'll bite you any time. But man,
Speaker 2: get his rock get his young Rockets team. Credit Bro,
Speaker 2: they can't they They did what they were supposed to do.
Speaker 2: Like you say on Tars Easton, I thought he played
Speaker 2: great for them. He was tough, He made shots and
Speaker 2: he guarded like just like Thompson, just like Smith. You know,
Speaker 2: I thought all those guys really really, you know, showed
Speaker 2: promise to night as far as that. You know, they
Speaker 2: want to continue their season and then and if they
Speaker 2: go home and take care of home court. Who knows
Speaker 2: what happened in game seven? Who game seven? You think? So?
Speaker 2: I do? I do? Well? They game? They Game seven
Speaker 2: gonna be tough, man, because you only gonna get a
Speaker 2: day of rest and then you gotta go play. Ok se, Well,
Speaker 2: we saw, we saw.
Speaker 1: What happened when they went they played that Uh they
Speaker 1: played that overtime game, remember yeah on how the Lakers look.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, now this is this will be they play
Speaker 1: again on Friday night. Think about that. Lebron James played
Speaker 1: forty minutes back to back games Monday night Wednesday night.
Speaker 2: Gonna play again on Friday night. Yeah. Hey a that's
Speaker 2: three and a half four miles fellas a game. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: he he's gonna have to be on his horses, boy,
Speaker 2: because Oh, I don't think they'll leave. I think they'll
Speaker 2: leave tomorrow.
Speaker 1: I think they'll give the guys like, hey, go home,
Speaker 1: get up a sleep in your own bed. We'll leave,
Speaker 1: We'll come in and watch tape, see what we did.
Speaker 1: We'll leave tomorrow and get ready to go and get
Speaker 1: ready to try to close this thing out on on Friday.
Speaker 1: I believe that'll be I believe that'll be their schedule
Speaker 1: or Lakers schedule.
Speaker 2: Or what's up with KD? Does he have any chance
Speaker 2: of coming back this I think he does. So if
Speaker 2: he coming back here, I think game six is the
Speaker 2: perfect time for him to He's coming back, don't you think. Yeah?
Speaker 2: I mean, what better position to be in bro for real? Seriously,
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know the significance of his injury,
Speaker 2: but if he can get out there and give them anything,
Speaker 2: you know, But they play different with KD. They watch KD.
Speaker 2: I know, I know that's the thing.
Speaker 1: When you have a great player, you stand around watching
Speaker 1: see what he gonna do.
Speaker 2: No move.
Speaker 1: The hell you go back and look at the games
Speaker 1: in which KD played and when they double KD. I agree,
Speaker 1: he got he got Thomson the east and standing right
Speaker 1: next to each other. Ain't nobody died to the basket.
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody run to the three point line. Ain't nobody
Speaker 1: try to come help him get the ball? Don't nobody
Speaker 1: know where to go?
Speaker 2: Now? Watch tonight when Shingoon got.
Speaker 3: Double back, everybody moving.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's different. Watch the flair. It's different. It's
Speaker 2: different because KD handles the ball a lot. As soon
Speaker 2: as he crossed half court handling the rock, they sit
Speaker 2: in a double. They make him give it up. So now, yes,
Speaker 2: you got a four on three on the backside if
Speaker 2: you Houston, and you just gotta be able to make
Speaker 2: the right decisions, which they hadn't been able to do
Speaker 2: in the regular season or the postseason when KD has
Speaker 2: been playing. Now that KD isn't playing, and you double
Speaker 2: sing Goon Sing Goon got catching the ball at the
Speaker 2: top of the key on the block. Yes, he ain't
Speaker 2: gonna Yeah, he'll be out there the three at times,
Speaker 2: but they ain't really doubling them out there. They double
Speaker 2: him when they got KD pushed so far out, Joe,
Speaker 2: there you go, there you go. So I agree with
Speaker 2: you on that it's two totally different defensive coverages when
Speaker 2: he play. But if I'm Houston boy, if I could
Speaker 2: get him to suit up.
Speaker 1: Uh oh yeah for sure, Because if you think about it, Joe,
Speaker 1: I'm they trapping KD at the timeline on one.
Speaker 2: Side of the court. Yeah. If you look at where
Speaker 2: they're trapping him, they're trapping shit goon.
Speaker 1: He's getting the ball, damn there at the nail or
Speaker 1: at worst case scenario, the top of the key.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And so now when he hey, you come with a
Speaker 1: double he see look at my backcut? Oh damn, what
Speaker 1: you call him? Just read this flare to the three
Speaker 1: point line? Reed, Shepherd, tarry Easton all the way backside.
Speaker 1: Let me get it to it. Shin Gun is a
Speaker 1: better passer than KD. And a lot of those Joe,
Speaker 1: you know a lot of those European big man's, they're
Speaker 1: great passers. You look at jo Ki, you look at
Speaker 1: a Shing Goon, you look at guys Bousovich.
Speaker 2: They can pass out of the double team. Hey, that's
Speaker 2: that's probably one of the most underrated attributes you can
Speaker 2: have in your game, especially as a big man, as
Speaker 2: a center. If you ask center, if you got a center, bro,
Speaker 2: who has a high IQ and he knows how to
Speaker 2: play the game, and he can pass, he can make
Speaker 2: the game easy for everybody around him. Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2: I think sing Goon he's great at that. Not only
Speaker 2: is he a good passer, but he's a willing passer.
Speaker 2: And you know they hey, they got life, bro. Like
Speaker 2: you said, confidence is a mug, especially you know in
Speaker 2: the postseason. Now the Lakers got to find a way
Speaker 2: to try to get a game.
Speaker 1: Confidence is ever thing in pro sports. Man boy, we
Speaker 1: had a game.
Speaker 2: We had a game. We had a game.
Speaker 1: Kate Cunningham scores forty five as the Magic stave off
Speaker 1: elimination and forced a game six. Kate Cunningham scored a
Speaker 1: franchise playoff record forty five points, including the step back
Speaker 1: jumping with thirty two seconds Orlando leaves the series three
Speaker 1: to two and well a head home. On Friday Night,
Speaker 1: The Magic fell to h and ten in franchise history
Speaker 1: with a Game five on the roll, Paulo ban Caro,
Speaker 1: this is what we need to see from you. Forty
Speaker 1: five points, nine rebounds, seven assists on seventeen or thirty one,
Speaker 1: shooting six to ten from the three. But he was
Speaker 1: terrible from the free throw line, and that might have
Speaker 1: really hurt him. Cade forty five points, five assists, four
Speaker 1: rebounds on thirteen of twenty three field goals, five of
Speaker 1: eight from the three, fourteen of fourteen, a perfect fourteen
Speaker 1: of fourteen from the free throw line. This is what
Speaker 1: I love. I love to see when two guys got
Speaker 1: it going. Yeah, I mean you remember when Donovan Mitchell
Speaker 1: and Jamal Murray. You remember Lebron and even though they
Speaker 1: ended up losing that game, through Lebron and Katie going
Speaker 1: back and forth, there's nothing like when two guys. We
Speaker 1: saw Bron and Paul Pierce have it going a couple
Speaker 1: of times in the playoffs. Yeah, there's nothing like when
Speaker 1: two guys got it going. Anything you can do, I
Speaker 1: can do it better. Man, Joe, what did you like
Speaker 1: about the Pistons won this game? What did you like
Speaker 1: about the Pistons and how did they win this game?
Speaker 1: I like to fight. I like to fight.
Speaker 2: That the Pistons had obviously just being resilient knowing that
Speaker 2: you know, they was on their home floor they had
Speaker 2: to take care of because they weren't trying to, you know,
Speaker 2: lose and and the series be over with. They were
Speaker 2: fighting to get back to Orlando. I like what Tobias
Speaker 2: Harris gave him tonight. Yo. I thought he was been
Speaker 2: playing well, Joe, he has the past couple of games,
Speaker 2: he's been playing well. He's been lifting them up. He's
Speaker 2: been giving k the second guy who he can really
Speaker 2: depend on. But I'm gonna be honest with y'all, man,
Speaker 2: they ain't really getting a whole lot from from you know,
Speaker 2: these other guys. Bro I mean, during was decent tonight,
Speaker 2: Duncan Robinson was decent. I just Orlando to beat them
Speaker 2: in Orlando. Yeah, Oh that's gonna be tough. I mean,
Speaker 2: because that's what they're up against. They gotta win two
Speaker 2: more games? Can can Can Detroit go to Orlando win
Speaker 2: a game and come back home final lead? They can?
Speaker 1: They need Thompson. Thompson was tremendous on the boards tonight.
Speaker 1: He was tremendous. They killed him on the boards tonight
Speaker 1: for they revert forty nine to thirty three. Thompson only
Speaker 1: took three shots. Excuse me, he took five shots. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he had fifteen boards, six assists, five steals, two blocks.
Speaker 1: He's sensational on defensive end. He and his brother outstanding
Speaker 1: defensive players. His brother is a little bit more advanced
Speaker 1: offensively than him. Yeah, but Kay Cunningham.
Speaker 3: A young boy, A young boy. Nice uncle, Joe, Hey,
Speaker 3: Ojoe nice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the boy got everything in his toolbox, hear me,
Speaker 2: I'm talking about listen, that's who. Hell, if I was Orlando,
Speaker 2: I'd be sending that double at his ass when he
Speaker 2: crossed half court the way he got it going, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Because he operates, He operates well
Speaker 2: in traffic, he operates well in isolation, and he's a
Speaker 2: great catch and shoot guy. Yeah, I just forty five points.
Speaker 2: It's awesome. I think I don't know if he could
Speaker 2: do that again in Orlando. But he's gonna have to
Speaker 2: be special for them to win, just like he look
Speaker 2: he if he gonna play anyone like this, they got
Speaker 2: a great chance of winning.
Speaker 1: You remember Joe, what was that game one? He had
Speaker 1: thirty nine. So he's more than capable of having and
Speaker 1: producing big numbers.
Speaker 2: But I don't.
Speaker 1: And Tobias Harris has been unbelievable.
Speaker 2: In this series.
Speaker 1: Yes, he played really well and when you expecting and
Speaker 1: Duran gave you, he gave you twelve only took the
Speaker 1: six shots nine rebounds, so he gave you a little
Speaker 1: more than what he normally does. But Tobias Harris has
Speaker 1: been unbelievable. They did get a little more out of
Speaker 1: Duncan Robinson. He's a kind of liability on the on
Speaker 1: the defensive man, so it's really hard for him to
Speaker 1: play him because they're gonna attack him at every chance
Speaker 1: they get. He he's that, he's that uh you know,
Speaker 1: the cub. He's that, he's that little animal, that the
Speaker 1: fox that they try to circle, they try to get,
Speaker 1: get your attention over here. They try to steal him
Speaker 1: away because he don't protected the catcher, because he can't
Speaker 1: hit protect himself, and that's what and that's how they
Speaker 1: attack him. Uh, they gotta get them. I thought Stu
Speaker 1: Stuke came in and gave some quality minutes on the
Speaker 1: boards and you got you gotta have this was about
Speaker 1: kde tonight.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, you got They got up pensions,
Speaker 2: gotta have somebody come off their bench. They can give
Speaker 2: him a little you know I'm talking about because in Orlando,
Speaker 2: bro I think depending on Cade to try and get
Speaker 2: you forty fifty points. Yeah, I don't know if that's
Speaker 2: gonna happen. I ain't saying you got.
Speaker 1: Getting that kind of points on the road, Joe. That
Speaker 1: don't happen very often. A guy goes on the road
Speaker 1: and hit the monster.
Speaker 2: Number like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but maybe you don't need him to hit forty five.
Speaker 4: You need everybody else to come to the party.
Speaker 2: Huh.
Speaker 3: That'sck and Tobias Aarris.
Speaker 4: Contribute the way he did tonight, will continue to contribute
Speaker 4: and be consistent. Duncan Robinson, You're supposed to be a
Speaker 4: shooter from the clip, shooting from the cliff. I mean,
Speaker 4: I mean, it's one thing to say it, but then
Speaker 4: go out there and do it. Jayleen Jayalen during even
Speaker 4: up and down, I mean yeah, oh yeah, yeah, even
Speaker 4: up and down all God damn serious, So I meant that.
Speaker 4: God damn cave boy. Hey, if I'm he nice.
Speaker 2: But if I'm Orlando Fellas, we're not going back to Detroit.
Speaker 2: No we hell now, we're not going back to Detroit.
Speaker 2: We finel they made the free throws, they win, they
Speaker 2: went back to night. Yeah, we finna go, Joe. They
Speaker 2: miss fourteen free throws. Joe h.
Speaker 1: Cave miss seven? You mean Ben Carroll miss said? I
Speaker 1: mean Ben Carroll? Yeah, Ben Carroll miss seven. Yeah he
Speaker 1: Jamal k was three or seven. K was five or twelve.
Speaker 1: Jalen sug was oh for one. Uh, the silver was
Speaker 1: one or two, Black was one of two. There was
Speaker 1: sixteen of thirty.
Speaker 2: Hey, listen, we add good game Detroit. But in Orlando.
Speaker 2: If I'm if I'm the Magic, We're finna go balls
Speaker 2: to the wall boy game six you hear me, I'm
Speaker 2: talking about we finish, We fin let it all hang out.
Speaker 2: We no way you can go back to Detroit. Bro,
Speaker 2: you can't what the Lakers did tonight. Orlando can't do that.
Speaker 2: The hell of a game.
Speaker 1: Didn't shoot any better from the free throw line. They
Speaker 1: missed thirteen, Joe, they missed twenty seven free throws between
Speaker 1: the two of them. Damn, it's a good game. Oh,
Speaker 1: this was an unbelievable game.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: And this is what you're like. Look, man, I'm watching
Speaker 1: Paulo band Carroll. He come down with a three. Oh,
Speaker 1: y'all hugging up on me. Okay, I'm gonna put this
Speaker 1: on the floor. And one I'm gonna put on the
Speaker 1: floor again and one Now I'm finna hit you with
Speaker 1: a step back.
Speaker 2: What he had it going. I mean, he had it going.
Speaker 2: He had it going, Joe. This what we've been talking about. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but you it's instill a center for all those three.
Speaker 2: Get your ass down there that block, drive that ball there.
Speaker 2: They can't get his can't stop you. Hey, he seems
Speaker 2: to to kind of understand that. Ever since that that
Speaker 2: that bad ass lost their head against uh Philly, Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's been he's been a totally different He's been the
Speaker 2: player that we've been looking for. You know, he stepped up.
Speaker 2: He answered every challenge. He's been playing great. And to
Speaker 2: come out with forty five nine and seven six for
Speaker 2: eleven from the three mm hmm. Hey, it's gonna be
Speaker 2: tough where Detroit got. They got some work to do.
Speaker 2: That had been that had been a fifty point. He
Speaker 2: had a he had a fifty ball in him. He
Speaker 2: makes some of them breaking. Hey when you look at
Speaker 2: when you when you see the stash sheet and you say,
Speaker 2: now I have forty five and what I missed? Five
Speaker 2: free throw? Are you ever seven free throw? Yeah? That hurt?
Speaker 2: That hurt.
Speaker 1: That hurt and then you know they played they played
Speaker 1: without Bogner, so we don't know if he's coming back
Speaker 1: for Game six, if it's something that's gonna keep himut
Speaker 1: of Game six, potentially can come back games, or is
Speaker 1: this something that keeps him out of the rest of
Speaker 1: the playoffs or at least keeps him out of the
Speaker 1: rest of this series.
Speaker 2: And it's a problem with Orlando because they got so
Speaker 2: many of their key guys that hasn't played a lot
Speaker 2: this season. They all been injured for whatever reason, and man,
Speaker 2: it's just hard to win like that. This is why
Speaker 2: I feel like they've given Detroit to run for their
Speaker 2: money because they really not an a seed ojo. You know,
Speaker 2: just dealing with all these injuries has kind of had
Speaker 2: them balk down throughout the season to where all they
Speaker 2: key guys have missed significant, you know amount of time. Yes,
Speaker 2: you know, there's somewhat somewhat healthy at this point, but
Speaker 2: to get to get Wagner back, yeah, that'll be that'll
Speaker 2: be huge for them. And you look at it, Joe
Speaker 2: Cade played forty four minutes, Thompson played thirty six during
Speaker 2: only twenty eight, Robinson twenty five, Tobias played thirty one minutes.
Speaker 2: They gave some quality minutes to their backups. You look
Speaker 2: at Stu.
Speaker 1: Played twenty Minutest Green played fifteen minutes, Karris Lavert played
Speaker 1: twenty five minutes, and Jenkins played sixteen. Anthony Black played
Speaker 1: thirty nine minutes off the bench. That's crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that means they am They ain't really depending on
Speaker 2: but about six guys for real. Yeah, yeah, they were.
Speaker 1: They were a deep at least what you call it
Speaker 1: went deep in they back what you call it with Detroit.
Speaker 1: Look you not look all that. That's funny. Games in
Speaker 1: the regular season, Oh man, they deep. They played ten playerffs,
Speaker 1: they play a limb player. Okay, the the playoffs start,
Speaker 1: you gonna probably be nine next round, you'll be eight
Speaker 1: the next bitch, that b gonna be a seven man rot.
Speaker 2: There you go, blow out one way or another. There
Speaker 2: you go. You ain't you in team? Coaches really ain't
Speaker 2: going no deeper than that in the postseason unless you
Speaker 2: just got a really great veteran team and you got
Speaker 2: guys really producing. But for the most part, it ain't
Speaker 2: going no more than seven eight d bro.
Speaker 1: Yeah, unless you okay see there you mm hmm, unless
Speaker 1: you okay see it ain't but one. Okay, see, but
Speaker 1: this was, this was this was unbelievable game. I mean
Speaker 1: the shot making by those two players, going young players, that's.
Speaker 2: What you'd like to see.
Speaker 1: You'd like to see this back and forth like oh
Speaker 1: oh you oh oh, you thought you did something. Yeah, Helpy,
Speaker 1: that damn ball come in here. He didn't fit to
Speaker 1: come in here and show he's asked.
Speaker 2: Him my out. Oh no, oh no, it was Hey,
Speaker 2: it was. It was beautiful to watch. Uh, the way
Speaker 2: k operated, the way Ben Carol, you know, kept answering
Speaker 2: the bell. Hey. At one point, I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 2: I thought Orlando was gonna pull it out because they
Speaker 2: pretty much they had control of this game. You know,
Speaker 2: they did for a lot of for for a lot
Speaker 2: of the time. I was like, hold on, Orlando gonna
Speaker 2: come in Detroit and any boys a number one seed.
Speaker 2: But you know, Detroit ended up finding their swag and
Speaker 2: was able to pull it out. But it's gonna be
Speaker 2: They still got a lot more work to do, fellas
Speaker 2: they do. But you have to feel you look, you
Speaker 2: have to feel good. Uh if you're Orlando, we look
Speaker 2: it's it's ain't no good losses. But they didn't get
Speaker 2: blowed out. They said, look, a few mistakes. We made
Speaker 2: some few mistakes here. We left a couple of guys
Speaker 2: open and they knocked down some big shots. We gotta
Speaker 2: do a better job on the glass. I mean we
Speaker 2: got out rebounded by sixteen. He got that rebounded by sixteen.
Speaker 2: They had sixteen offensive rebounds. We had eight, So they
Speaker 2: doubled us up there. That means they got a couple
Speaker 2: of extra second chance points that they probably didn't deserve.
Speaker 2: That's that desperation that the Pistons was playing with. Yes,
Speaker 2: any misshots, we crashed in the glass. Like you say,
Speaker 2: sixteen offensive rebounds. Hell, it's hard to beat any team
Speaker 2: you give up sixteen offensive rebounds because those second chance points.
Speaker 2: And I'm sure that they capitalized on on some absolutely
Speaker 2: on some of them had to. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So yeah, and Orlando, Look, can Paulo go play another
Speaker 1: game like this? Maybe not, Maybe he doesn't have to.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I think the question is, am
Speaker 1: I Detroit, what you guys really have a look that
Speaker 1: well on the road. Yeah, late, you try to make
Speaker 1: a run late in the ball game, but you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to give yourself some wiggle room. You can't fall
Speaker 1: down by like you thought. F fail behind and try
Speaker 1: them out to come back. It gets hard and harder
Speaker 1: to do that.
Speaker 2: I agree, I agree. Uh if Detroit, I don't, I
Speaker 2: don't want to speak this into existence. But let's say
Speaker 2: they don't. They don't get out this series. They probably
Speaker 2: gonna have to make make a change or two ojo.
Speaker 2: I know they number one seed sixty wins, but they
Speaker 2: need some more scoring. They Ky needs some help, bro,
Speaker 2: he needs some help. I know Tobias has been great
Speaker 2: these past two to three games, but hell, you're gonna
Speaker 2: need somebody else who you can really depend on. And
Speaker 2: what about KD No no, no.
Speaker 1: No, no, no no no no.
Speaker 3: OK.
Speaker 2: What if what what what if? I said, Tobi? What
Speaker 2: if I send Tobias Harris and.
Speaker 4: Uh nah, go get a young boy out there Arizona
Speaker 4: and bring him on down there to Detroit and give
Speaker 4: him a pair.
Speaker 2: The booker book book. They're not letting book go. They
Speaker 2: gotta do something. They gotta do something. Yeah damn yeah,
Speaker 2: I thought he said, with that little remedy he had,
Speaker 2: it was gonna be gone by the day. Buy here,
Speaker 2: stay your sister, about three five days. Oh man, come on,
Speaker 2: come on, now, come on, come on. But this is
Speaker 2: a good series. This is a good series. This is
Speaker 2: a good series.
Speaker 1: Look all the series look like they're going to six.
Speaker 1: They going look Toronto going seven. Let's go ahead and
Speaker 1: talk about that. Hell I thought I thought Toronto was
Speaker 1: gonna win this game too.
Speaker 2: I did too. The Cavs UH one one game away
Speaker 2: from advancing to the second round.
Speaker 1: They win one twenty five thanks to Denny Shrewder came
Speaker 1: off the bench and played unbelievable. For he's been in
Speaker 1: big games before, He's not in odd the moment, seven
Speaker 1: of eleven from the floor, three or six from the three, uh,
Speaker 1: and two or two from the free throw line. He
Speaker 1: and Evan Mobley were huge tonight. Evan Mobley played unbelievable
Speaker 1: eight or thirteen from the floor, three or three from
Speaker 1: the three point line. Harden played well. Uh he had
Speaker 1: twenty three points, four of eight from the three point line,
Speaker 1: five or six for the free throw line.
Speaker 2: Donovan Mitchell struggled a little.
Speaker 1: Bit with a shot, and he has in this series,
Speaker 1: but he was three or five from the three point line.
Speaker 1: They were fifty percent from the three. Brandon Ingram got
Speaker 1: hurt left this game early, I thought al j Bag
Speaker 1: played really well, Walter played well. Look they got I
Speaker 1: just feel this game going. I just feel his going seven.
Speaker 1: I just feel Joe, I just feel I just don't.
Speaker 1: I just don't see Cleveland going to Toronto and winning
Speaker 1: on their court. Yeah, it's gonna be tough. Shout out
Speaker 1: to Cleveland.
Speaker 2: Uh, but when you look at Cleveland's bench like you
Speaker 2: need you need a guy, That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: You need a guy who can come off their bench
Speaker 2: and give you a spark if we ain't really going
Speaker 2: because Toronto pretty much had control of this game too,
Speaker 2: Yes they did, Yeah until until Schroeder came in. He
Speaker 2: changed it with his energy and effort. Uh, Mobiley played great.
Speaker 2: I just feel like, man, you can't just always depend
Speaker 2: on your big guns to deliver. It's gonna be nice, bro,
Speaker 2: they not gonna have it or the defense it is
Speaker 2: geared to slow them down to an extent. So okay, boom.
Speaker 2: If if you got Mitchell and Harden drawing all this attention,
Speaker 2: then we're gonna need somebody to step up who can
Speaker 2: make some shots, who can make some plays, who can
Speaker 2: create some offense for other guys as well, and I thought,
Speaker 2: I thought Cleveland got that. Now with Toronto they just
Speaker 2: got they got a lot of weapons. Now they got
Speaker 2: a lot of weapons from ball runs to Barrett. Obviously,
Speaker 2: you know Ingram hasn't been great, but you look at
Speaker 2: these guys. She sneid, what's his name?
Speaker 3: She?
Speaker 2: Yeah? She who come off the bench? Yeah, man, he can.
Speaker 2: He come in with great energy. He plays with a
Speaker 2: lot of passion and they and they are they are
Speaker 2: confident bunch too. I don't think Cleveland can win in Toronto.
Speaker 2: I really don't. I don't think they can win to him.
Speaker 2: That's why I say I'm with I think this is
Speaker 2: gonna go seven to It's gonna be right back in
Speaker 2: Cleveland for a game seven, and it's gonna be up
Speaker 2: in the air because Toronto has been playing great. Man, Hey,
Speaker 2: just think about it. Ingram hadn't been, he hadn't been.
Speaker 2: What did he hurt? But by the time I got there,
Speaker 2: he was already gone. Me too when I said, I said, damn,
Speaker 2: what happened? But uh, if they if they could get
Speaker 2: anything that's that's decent from him, this this series probably
Speaker 2: would be over Fellas if I'm just keeping the one hundred.
Speaker 2: But they getting good contribution from guys off the bench.
Speaker 2: Toronto a dangerous team, man, they are. They're really they're
Speaker 2: they're really dangerous team. They play hard. Uh they played
Speaker 2: they played really hard. Yeah. And like I said, R J. Barrett,
Speaker 2: that left it, he'd be getting it. Yeah. And Barnes.
Speaker 2: You look at Barnes. You look how six eight six
Speaker 2: nine he can play the point, great passer, great defender,
Speaker 2: great rebounder. He don't really have a weakness in his game. Ojo,
Speaker 2: go ahead. They don't really have the most aesthetically pleasing games.
Speaker 2: It don't. You don't, but but hey, but he don't.
Speaker 2: He doesn't effective, Joe. But yeah, he's super effective because
Speaker 2: at his height at six eight six y nine, with
Speaker 2: them loan all that long wingspin and being a hell
Speaker 2: of a defender. It's tough because that's who that's a
Speaker 2: lot of times that's who's Guarden James, or that's who's
Speaker 2: Garden Donovan, you know, to making tough on him. So
Speaker 2: to Toronto got a good game playing man. They just
Speaker 2: got to stick with it.
Speaker 1: The Cavaliers trail the Raptors and in the fourth quarter
Speaker 1: in Game six, they had lost their last twenty two
Speaker 1: playoff games trailing and in the fourth quarter before tonight,
Speaker 1: But it was Shrewder's energy. Yeah, and he's done this before.
Speaker 1: We've seen it with the Lakers, We've seen it with
Speaker 1: the other teams.
Speaker 2: Where was he at Sacramento? He was in Sacramento.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we see. We look, this is what he is.
Speaker 1: This is what he's a really solid player. He's had
Speaker 1: an outstanding career. You watch him in in feb and
Speaker 1: that kind of play. He was the most outstanding player
Speaker 1: for FEB. Those guys have played together for a number
Speaker 1: of basically their whole career is Joe you excuse me.
Speaker 1: You come up playing in international and you play together
Speaker 1: and these guys are built so Shrewd he's unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, his energy and for this contagious man. And that's
Speaker 2: what that's what I've been talking about. You know, you
Speaker 2: gotta have somebody if we come out a little lackluster,
Speaker 2: flat damn, can we put somebody in a game who
Speaker 2: can kind of realize let's just kind of get us going,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I think he's been Look,
Speaker 2: he had nineteen points and twenty one minutes. Fella, twenty
Speaker 2: one minutes. That's that's crazy. Efficient, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: Like twenty one minutes, you give me nineteen points like
Speaker 2: that mean he's as soon as he checking the game,
Speaker 2: it ain't no oh, let me warm up. Hell, he
Speaker 2: comeing in and getting right to it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he understands this, He understands his role, He
Speaker 1: understands the assignment. What is as fort of him in
Speaker 1: that moment. Yeah, I need you to put pressure. I
Speaker 1: need you, hey, I need you to speed this thing up.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Plus he's another ball handler that I don't have to
Speaker 1: have the ball in James's hand. I don't have to
Speaker 1: have the ball in donovan hands.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: He can make plays. He can create for himself, but
Speaker 1: he could also create for others. Absolutely, And I like
Speaker 1: what Cleveland done. They left him in the game with Donovan,
Speaker 1: with James Harden. Yes, you know they had all three
Speaker 1: of those guys in together that way. It's so much
Speaker 1: attention on Harden and Mitchell that okay, boom, we can
Speaker 1: put it in Shroulders head, run his pick and roll
Speaker 1: and wa able to get you know, maybe get James
Speaker 1: some wide open threes, get Donovan some easy shots. If not,
Speaker 1: then we know Shrewder can get in the paint. He
Speaker 1: can shoot his floater, he can shoot his pull up.
Speaker 1: He gonna make sure the bigs get a little something.
Speaker 1: So I think he is a perfect fit for Cleveland.
Speaker 1: Obviously he's been I think he's been playing pretty well
Speaker 1: for him in this postseason, especially the night because they
Speaker 1: needed that.
Speaker 2: He's bounced around. I don't know why.
Speaker 1: And he always plays if his teams make the playoffs,
Speaker 1: he always plays well.
Speaker 2: I don't know why.
Speaker 1: He hasn't really found a home ever since that situation
Speaker 1: with the Lakers where reportedly he turned down a boatload
Speaker 1: of money. He's kind of been a journeyman ever since. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I don't know why, Joe, because he's a
Speaker 1: solid player, Joe. He plays really well when give it
Speaker 1: the opportunities.
Speaker 2: You're right, I really don't know, Uh, I know. I
Speaker 2: think he was in Detroit for a little minute last year.
Speaker 2: It was last year, Yeah, Yeah, he was in Detroit.
Speaker 2: He played well, he played well against the Dicks. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't really really don't know. I really don't know
Speaker 2: what it is. But every team that he goes to,
Speaker 2: he's definitely effective. I think what kind of hurt him
Speaker 2: in the Sacramento is when they signed Russell Westbrook, you know,
Speaker 2: kind of put him on that back burner a little bit.
Speaker 2: I think they kind of knew they was gonna get
Speaker 2: rid of him. But he Hey, he's a hell of
Speaker 2: a contributor to a team. I mean, this is perfect
Speaker 2: for Cleveland for sure.
Speaker 1: So we gotta get We got three game six is right.
Speaker 1: So we got a game six in Houston, We got
Speaker 1: a game six in Toronto, and we got a game
Speaker 1: six in Orlando.
Speaker 2: And all these games are taking place on Friday, right,
Speaker 2: we got we got more basketball, fellas, more basketball, right,
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so we got three.
Speaker 2: Game six is tomorrow, and we got three. Game six
Speaker 2: is on Friday. Guys, damn yeah, close out house. Well, Joe,
Speaker 2: what you got? Yeah, NBA like y'all who play tomorrow?
Speaker 2: Let me see what's Boston Philly? Oh yeah my Hawks
Speaker 2: play tomorrow. Timber number uh Knicks, Hawks and t Wolves
Speaker 2: and Nuggets. Yeah, hey, Joe with that bet looking like, Joe,
Speaker 2: well what you mean was looking like? I mean for tomorrow?
Speaker 2: We better we got the five hundred for the game
Speaker 2: six tomorrow. Shure, yeah, positive positive.
Speaker 3: I just want I just want to clarify Okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm positive positive. What you what you think is
Speaker 2: gonna happen? Uh?
Speaker 1: Game six Boston Philly tomorrow and Philly. Are you telling
Speaker 1: me that Boston's gonna shoot that terrible from the three again?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Because they are three point shooting team, Joe, they make threes.
Speaker 1: You're not beating them because they get up so many.
Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta give a Philly credit critic. What
Speaker 1: if Philly held them to thirty nine threes they normally
Speaker 1: getting up in the fifties. Yeah, so you get up
Speaker 1: fifty threes, Joe, you make let's just say, for the
Speaker 1: sake of argument, you make somewhere.
Speaker 2: Between nineteen and twenty four.
Speaker 1: It's hard for a team to keep up with that
Speaker 1: that volume and that many mates unless they've taken make
Speaker 1: that many.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, they shot lights out in game four two
Speaker 2: in Philly got.
Speaker 1: Joelen Bid did what he does and then you got
Speaker 1: Tyres Maxi. Paul george has been solid. He hasn't given you,
Speaker 1: you know, twenty five. He's not that Paul Georgie once was,
Speaker 1: but he's a solid he he's the third best player
Speaker 1: on the team. Yeah, yeah, but he's been giving them
Speaker 1: solid minutes Edge can come in and did. But it
Speaker 1: was Quentin Grimes off the bench that was hitting bomb
Speaker 1: threes that really flipped this game, that really gave gave
Speaker 1: them the cushion once they called the Celtics and got
Speaker 1: and got that lead.
Speaker 2: You just grab this bombing. Yeah, yeah, hey, it's getting
Speaker 2: good now, fellas you know, this postseason now is just
Speaker 2: starting to wind down to you know, uh uh you know,
Speaker 2: win or go home games. I'm curious to see how
Speaker 2: you know, uh, Minnesota is gonna respond with to Denver
Speaker 2: because I think they, I mean, hell, it's probably that
Speaker 2: this is their best chance right here, a game sixty
Speaker 2: they don't want to get. Yeah, I don't. I don't
Speaker 2: see how I don't. I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't bet no matter money, that they go into
Speaker 1: Denver and win a game seven. So I agree with you.
Speaker 1: I think this is their best chance to win. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they gonna off you ask him awful lot. Uh, Jue
Speaker 1: Reynald's gonna have to play. Ju Rend's gonna need to
Speaker 1: give you thirty Uh ao, uh, it's gonna need to
Speaker 1: give you gonna have to have a game. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying he needs to have forty but he needs to
Speaker 1: have a He needs to get up more shots than
Speaker 1: what he got up in Denver. He didn't shoot bad
Speaker 1: from the field, Joe. He had eighteen points, but they
Speaker 1: didn't take all buch shots.
Speaker 2: He didn't. You're gonna need a You need mc daniels
Speaker 2: to step up. Yes, you're gonna need him to. He
Speaker 2: gonna need by eighteen to twenty five hours. You know,
Speaker 2: you you you, you're gonna be asking you know, quite
Speaker 2: a bit from some guys, but to continue to keep playing.
Speaker 2: This is what you're gonna need because you you you
Speaker 2: you mess around and squander this game away at home, boy,
Speaker 2: it's gonna be hell to pay. You go to Denver well,
Speaker 2: game seven.
Speaker 1: Uh, Gobert is gonna have to do do like he
Speaker 1: did in games two, three, and four against We know
Speaker 1: that's not an easy task, Joe. We understand what we
Speaker 1: understand what he's up against. I don't know, we absolutely
Speaker 1: understand what he's up against Denver.
Speaker 2: Denver. They they look too comfortable now, you know, I
Speaker 2: mean that they're champions. OKAYO. You know they've been there,
Speaker 2: they've been down, they've been down this road. You know,
Speaker 2: they know what it's like. They know what it takes.
Speaker 2: You know, they they first advert they faced adversity before,
Speaker 2: and it's no different.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 2: They win this game six, they're gonna be moving on.
Speaker 1: And but the thing is with you see the other night,
Speaker 1: Joe last what they have last night, he had sixteen
Speaker 1: of sis.
Speaker 2: You can't give him that. You can't if you go
Speaker 2: back and.
Speaker 1: Look at the games they won, they held they had
Speaker 1: of his assist total under team. You start letting them
Speaker 1: get you let him get his average, which was twenty seven,
Speaker 1: and you gave him fifteen cents. Well you didn't give him,
Speaker 1: but I'm saying he got fifteen of cents. That means
Speaker 1: guys are making shots.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't want that, you can't have it, I mean,
Speaker 2: but that's the desperation that you know, that was what
Speaker 2: was needed for them to win that game though. Okay, Ocho,
Speaker 2: you know, I don't know how many times Denver has
Speaker 2: been on the brink. I know they won seven games
Speaker 2: with OKC last year, right they did. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 2: you can probably see the best Denver team we've seen
Speaker 2: in a while under these conditions, considering the fact that
Speaker 2: they've been in these situations before.
Speaker 3: True.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we'll find we got uh. Three game six
Speaker 2: is damarrow and three game six is on seven.