WEBVTT - "Spitting" w/ Murray Hill

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<v Speaker 1>Podcast starts now. What is up, everyone around the globe?

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Stradialab in New York City, mind you.

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<v Speaker 2>Happy first day of fall in New York City. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you can feel it. I'm wearing a sweater. I stood up.

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<v Speaker 2>I was up late last night reading my book. in

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<v Speaker 2>a cozy, in my cozy bed. It is, I want

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<v Speaker 2>a giant thing of hot chocolate to sip.

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<v Speaker 1>It's absolutely incredible. I mean, I must say I'm, as

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<v Speaker 1>someone that currently lives in Los Angeles, I will say

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<v Speaker 1>when I wake up and it's cloudy, it does trigger something,

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<v Speaker 1>a panic in me. Like I can't enjoy it. I

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<v Speaker 1>get scared. And I'm like, yeah, there's something about me

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<v Speaker 1>right now where, but it's also, as I was telling you,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm depressed.

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<v Speaker 2>You are depressed. So let's talk more about that.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just recorded my special. And now that I

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<v Speaker 1>did it, I'm like, I'm embarrassed in a way that like,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I threw a big birthday party for myself.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I'm like, why did I do that? You know, like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, it's very shameful. Oh, I see.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's not just that you had this high, high,

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<v Speaker 2>and now you're crashing. It's that you're like, I can't

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<v Speaker 2>believe I just did that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>You're almost, it's like post, or if you're a Catholic

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<v Speaker 2>post orgasm and you're like, I need to take a shower.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>That's exactly what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to fight that. In our business, you have

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<v Speaker 2>to be, you have to embrace your narcissism. You can't

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<v Speaker 2>be having shame about wanting attention.

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<v Speaker 1>I literally need to apologize to all the cameramen. I

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<v Speaker 1>need to be like, hey, sorry, you couldn't hang out

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<v Speaker 1>with your families that night.

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<v Speaker 2>No, this is why we're not more successful. Because both

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<v Speaker 2>of us are full of shame.

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<v Speaker 1>It's wild. And all day today I've been like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I need to repent. Like, I really feel like I

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<v Speaker 1>need to repent.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, you know, my new idea is step and

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<v Speaker 2>repent instead of step and repeat.

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<v Speaker 1>I need the step and repent.

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<v Speaker 2>Where you're on a red carpet and then you can

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<v Speaker 2>repent to camera and then you get it out of

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<v Speaker 2>the way. You go into the event. Time for the

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<v Speaker 2>big premiere.

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<v Speaker 1>I need that so bad. I would really be healed

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<v Speaker 1>if I did that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, speaking of repenting, we have Mr.

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<v Speaker 1>Shobis and Shane. We have Mr.

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<v Speaker 2>Shobis himself on the podcast today. And I, the Murray

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<v Speaker 2>Hill who is on today, Murray Hill's book arrived to

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<v Speaker 2>my apartment yesterday and I brought it here. and you

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<v Speaker 2>hadn't even seen it yet.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it looks great.

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<v Speaker 2>This is your first time seeing your own book.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, fellas, I was a little late. Oh, please. No,

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<v Speaker 3>not to the podcast. Guys, take it easy. I was

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<v Speaker 3>late in finishing the book, so they never printed galleys.

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<v Speaker 3>So I never saw the book. So, you know, it's...

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<v Speaker 3>It's nice and thick.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very thick. It's nice and thick. You can say

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<v Speaker 2>that again.

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<v Speaker 1>Amazing font.

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<v Speaker 2>Beautiful font. Great image. Look at these blurbs. Sarah Jessica Parker.

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah Jessica Parker.

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<v Speaker 2>Bridget Everett. Jeff Hiller. Okay, well, these are coworkers, so

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<v Speaker 2>they don't count. But Kathleen Hanna.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Margaret Cho. Amy Sedaris. I mean, come on.

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<v Speaker 1>Showbiz. It's showbiz.

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<v Speaker 3>I asked your agents, but they didn't get back to me.

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<v Speaker 1>What did you ask them?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, my. Oh, for a blurb. Yeah, we could have given.

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<v Speaker 2>They didn't get back to us either, if you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Showbiz.

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<v Speaker 3>Guys, there's a pause, so I'm going to. I have

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<v Speaker 3>a quick question.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, please.

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<v Speaker 3>So straight lab, right?

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<v Speaker 2>Stradio lab.

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<v Speaker 3>Stradio, straight. That's all I see is Stradio lab. So

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a little freaked out because, first of all, I

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<v Speaker 3>just want to say to the camera that I love

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<v Speaker 3>gay people. They're a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Should be- Sometimes.

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<v Speaker 3>Have equal rights.

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<v Speaker 2>Occasionally.

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<v Speaker 3>But I did think this was a bro straight podcast

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm not saying you both are gay, but I'm

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<v Speaker 3>getting that vibe because you started off talking about like

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<v Speaker 3>gay shame and- Of.

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<v Speaker 1>Course, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>You're both wearing these outfits that if, straight people wore them,

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<v Speaker 3>it would make sense.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true. Oh, interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>That's interesting. So I didn't know this was Gayolab.

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<v Speaker 2>We do actually, we do Gayolab once a year for Pride,

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<v Speaker 2>where someone brings a gay topic. But the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>the year we do Straight Ear Lab. And basically it's,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we are.

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<v Speaker 3>So confused. So- They didn't tell me. But I like guys.

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<v Speaker 3>You guys are fun.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm sorry. You want your agents to email you

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<v Speaker 2>whenever there is a career opportunity and tell you the

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<v Speaker 2>sexuality and gender identity of the person that is giving

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<v Speaker 2>it to you?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, straight lab. So I thought this was

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<v Speaker 3>a straight lab. So I wore this outfit. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>I tried to blend with the guys. I come in

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<v Speaker 3>here and you guys are wearing fucking khakis. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>this is fucked up.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll have you know, these are designer khakis that only

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<v Speaker 2>gay men have access to.

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<v Speaker 1>Mine are a collab. These are khakis that are a collab.

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<v Speaker 2>I had to get his specially tailored for his special taping.

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<v Speaker 1>First, I ordered them way too small, got them tailored

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<v Speaker 1>way too big, and now they don't fit at all. Same.

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<v Speaker 3>Can we get a close-up of that?

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<v Speaker 2>You need to make up your mind. Before you said

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<v Speaker 2>you didn't want a close-up. You didn't want a close-up

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<v Speaker 2>of anything neck down.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing a bit, right? Taking this fucking guy.

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<v Speaker 1>But we can be a straight podcast if you want.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you watch the big game?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, two guys in the Giants got injured

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<v Speaker 3>last night.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that true?

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<v Speaker 3>It's football.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so sad.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, my God.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I hope- It's not sad. They worked hard. They're tough.

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<v Speaker 3>They deserve concussions.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true.

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<v Speaker 2>They worked hard for those concussions.

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<v Speaker 1>They worked hard for those concussions. It's a badge of honor.

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<v Speaker 1>Any conspiracy theories you believe in or want to get

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<v Speaker 1>off your chest really quick?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, any races or ethnicities that you don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Really like that much. What sort of protein powders are

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<v Speaker 1>you on?

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<v Speaker 3>I actually don't get it. So guys, guys, I get

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<v Speaker 3>all my health advice from Instagram.

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<v Speaker 2>From RFK Jr.

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<v Speaker 3>No, Instagram. It's a step higher than RFK. Yeah, barely.

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<v Speaker 1>No, very.

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<v Speaker 3>And apparently for every pound that you weigh, you're supposed

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<v Speaker 3>to have a gram of protein.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're building muscle.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so I have not found, and maybe now that

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<v Speaker 3>I know you guys are gay, and you like health

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<v Speaker 3>and work out and stuff, is now that I know,

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<v Speaker 3>so basically I have to have 220 grams of protein

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<v Speaker 3>per day. If you want to gain muscle.

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<v Speaker 1>And I can't figure it out.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you trying to get really, really buff?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Okay, all right, well there you go.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, this is buff underneath.

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't accusing you of not being buff already. No,

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<v Speaker 2>that's right.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not a gazer into the bodies and stuff. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>like a bear.

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<v Speaker 2>What you're describing isn't the amount of protein you need

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<v Speaker 2>just to be like a healthy person in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the amount of protein. I seriously thought that was.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the amount of protein you need to like bulk up.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean? If you have less than that,

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<v Speaker 2>you'll be fine. You just won't be like huge and muscular.

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<v Speaker 3>So yesterday I had an egg sandwich for breakfast.

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<v Speaker 2>Great.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I had some chips.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>And some Cheez-Its.

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<v Speaker 2>Yum.

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<v Speaker 3>And that was it. So I didn't get too much protein.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're on Atkins. Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I love those chips and Cheez-Its. The Cheez-Its aren't

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<v Speaker 1>the chips.

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<v Speaker 3>They were separate.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course.

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<v Speaker 1>Different meals. Different meals.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the Cheez-Its were from your green room. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>my God.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you're welcome then. We'll be Venmo-ing you for the

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<v Speaker 2>total price of that, too.

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<v Speaker 3>Showbiz.

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<v Speaker 1>I keep getting health advice on Instagram as well.

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<v Speaker 2>What kind of advice are you getting?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, they're always trying to get me to get more flexible.

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram really knows that I'm not flexible.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone loves hip flexors.

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<v Speaker 3>The jumping, right?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you get that one?

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<v Speaker 3>The little jumps in this?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>And the dead arms?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, exactly. And I'm sort of like, can you guys

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<v Speaker 2>make a list?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to be able to find this video

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<v Speaker 1>when I actually want it. Okay, see ya.

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<v Speaker 3>I've never had something in common with a gay man before.

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<v Speaker 1>That can't be true.

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<v Speaker 2>I doubt that.

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<v Speaker 3>It is kind of true. I get sucked into that

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<v Speaker 3>shit and I always want a list of all of

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<v Speaker 3>the moves because I can't remember.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no way to remember.

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<v Speaker 3>Because I'm in showbiz and a certain age and gummies

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<v Speaker 3>and ADHD.

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<v Speaker 1>You have all the lines in your head.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so I, this is so neurotic, I save these

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<v Speaker 3>videos like three times a day. I've never once gone

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<v Speaker 3>back to.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at it. I was about to say.

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<v Speaker 3>Because I want one page with a list.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>Because I can't remember the trunk moving, the hops, let's

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<v Speaker 3>see if we can do it. The, this one?

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<v Speaker 1>There's like the dead arm, this one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the dead arms.

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<v Speaker 1>There's like a, there's a slight like bending one, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I can want to do that one.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not what I heard. But the rim shot, not

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<v Speaker 3>job shot.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I don't know who actually uses these videos

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<v Speaker 1>to actually do the workouts. I'm also like, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think I should be doing this solo. I think I

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<v Speaker 1>need a person watching me, a coach, if you will.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell us what to do next. Like a trainer, perhaps.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, maybe a coach.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe a professional.

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<v Speaker 1>Can we do it?

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<v Speaker 3>Should we try to do it on B-roll after we

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<v Speaker 3>do this? We'll try to do this.

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<v Speaker 2>We're doing a guided workout and then a guided meditation.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm going to perform a Reiki series on the

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<v Speaker 2>two of you.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you get health stuff on Instagram?

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<v Speaker 2>Not what you're describing. I'm getting bulking stuff. I'm getting

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<v Speaker 2>what the first, like protein stuff. I'm getting like, if

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<v Speaker 2>you really want the, get ready, because this is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be body negative. Are you ready for this? It's

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<v Speaker 2>not my fault that I get these things.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not my fault that I get these things.

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<v Speaker 2>I get a lot of content that is how to

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<v Speaker 2>battle skinny fat body type. Do you know what skinny

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<v Speaker 2>fat is?

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<v Speaker 3>I actually don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Skinny fat is when you are skinny, but like, kind

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<v Speaker 2>of flabby, I guess you would say. It's like, imagine

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<v Speaker 2>like a skinny guy that has like love handles.

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<v Speaker 3>And so- I don't want to imagine that. I thought

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<v Speaker 3>this was a straight show.

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<v Speaker 2>This is sort of what my algorithm is also. My

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<v Speaker 2>algorithm is also like, imagine that. Is it pictures? No,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no pictures. Those would be censored, of course. But

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<v Speaker 2>it is basically like, I think it has been decided

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<v Speaker 2>in the gay community that that is the worst possible

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<v Speaker 2>body type one can have.

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<v Speaker 3>So is it better to be chubby?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, because if you're chubby, you're a bear. We know

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<v Speaker 2>where to put you. We know where to put you, right?

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<v Speaker 2>If you're chubby, amazing. There's a community for you. If

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<v Speaker 2>you're skinny, twinkie, you're amazing. There's a community for you.

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<v Speaker 2>If you can't fit into one of those buckets.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're skinny, skinny fat, we have to kill you.

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<v Speaker 1>You are between two worlds?

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<v Speaker 2>Unless you follow these five simple steps. And so that's

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm getting.

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<v Speaker 3>What if you're fat skinny?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I would love to hear what that is.

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<v Speaker 2>How would that work?

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<v Speaker 3>Well... Young people.

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<v Speaker 2>I have an idea for how that would work. Ready? Okay. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're... really big, but have like really skinny arms.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe that's fat skinny.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, that's good.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that how you identify?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I identify as a lot of things. None of

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<v Speaker 3>which are appropriate for a podcast. But yeah, I've got

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<v Speaker 3>skinny fingers.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>And I got, you know, just big right here. So

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<v Speaker 3>I guess I'm fat skinny.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I guess I have skinny.

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<v Speaker 1>No, actually.

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<v Speaker 3>But is there a support group for guys like that?

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<v Speaker 2>For skinny fat guys? Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>Fat, big.

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<v Speaker 2>Fat gay.

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<v Speaker 3>Skinny fat gay guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there a support group for skinny fat gay guys? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I just think it is the last remaining, in an

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<v Speaker 2>era of body positivity, it is the last community that

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<v Speaker 2>faces prejudice in the LGBTQ plus community. And I'm basically

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<v Speaker 2>not even kidding.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there's not a body neutrality movement for skinny fat.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes. Have you heard of body neutrality?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, God.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so body positivity is like, I feel amazing about

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<v Speaker 2>my body no matter what I look like. Body neutrality.

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<v Speaker 3>I've never heard of that either. That's not something I've experienced.

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<v Speaker 2>Body neutrality is like, I'm simply neutral about how I look.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't feel good about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't feel bad about it. It is just my body.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, what are you guys hearing about this shit?

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<v Speaker 2>Let me try doing body neutrality. Didn't work.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me try. That was it.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you feel it?

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<v Speaker 2>Congratulations, did you do it?

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<v Speaker 3>No, but what are you learning about this shit?

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<v Speaker 1>I learned about it yesterday on our podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I told you about it.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I did learn? What? I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>get canceled.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you're not.

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<v Speaker 3>Because anytime I'm with gay guys, I like- Do you

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<v Speaker 3>get canceled?

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<v Speaker 1>You want to be bad?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I don't want to be bad, but I want

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<v Speaker 3>to ask you things that I've- Ask, ask, ask. Because

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<v Speaker 3>you just told me about four words I've never even

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<v Speaker 3>heard of.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's hear it.

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<v Speaker 3>I heard, but I don't know if it's the right definition.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ex-Catholic. I can't wait. Ex-Catholic.

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<v Speaker 3>Shame.

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<v Speaker 1>Felching.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, felching.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's classic.

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<v Speaker 2>You can take this one.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you want to know about it? Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you heard about sides?

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<v Speaker 1>What?

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<v Speaker 2>Have you heard about sides? If someone identifies it as

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<v Speaker 2>a side.

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<v Speaker 3>Like sides when I'm doing a self-tape?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>So do you want to know what a side is?

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<v Speaker 3>What is a side?

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<v Speaker 2>I'll explain sides and then you explain felching. See what

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<v Speaker 2>I did there?

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<v Speaker 1>I got the gross one.

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<v Speaker 2>You got the gross one. A side is a gay

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<v Speaker 2>man who doesn't. like anal sex at all. So he's

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<v Speaker 2>not a top or a bottom. He just wants to

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<v Speaker 2>do other kinds of stuff. So he's a side because

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<v Speaker 2>it's not a top or a bottom.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, what else is there to do? No, it's a

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<v Speaker 3>valid question, Sammy.

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<v Speaker 2>Hand and mouth stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Hand and mouth stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on.

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<v Speaker 2>Be open-minded.

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<v Speaker 3>Guys, I thought this was hand and mouth. Oh, God.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't care what you do in the bedroom. Just,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to see it.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, a side? Yeah. Yeah, what do you think about that?

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<v Speaker 2>You need to go back to your community.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I like sides, like when I go to Ruth's Steakhouse.

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<v Speaker 2>Like an appetizer? Of course. Like a creamed spinach.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes I order all sides.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, my gosh.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Tater tots, mashed potatoes.

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<v Speaker 1>In what context did you hear about felching?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Who was bringing this up with you?

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<v Speaker 3>I do have a gay friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, that's nice.

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<v Speaker 3>Who was in a relationship and... They broke up, and

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<v Speaker 3>he was heartbroken, and then there's this prep thing going around,

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<v Speaker 3>I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what that is.

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<v Speaker 2>Did they break up because of felching in some way?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 1>Or because of prep.

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<v Speaker 2>Or because of prep.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe. So after they broke up, he has been going

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<v Speaker 3>on a bender.

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<v Speaker 2>That'll happen.

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<v Speaker 3>And, you know, I've been around boys. I'm in my 50s.

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<v Speaker 3>I've seen a lot, done a lot. But he was

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<v Speaker 3>telling me that gay guys go to a hotel.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to get it. What am I talking about?

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<v Speaker 3>I thought this was a fucking sports show. A guy

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<v Speaker 3>goes to the hotel. Uh-huh. Stranger.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I see where this is going.

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<v Speaker 3>Doesn't have any clothes on.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>On all fours on the bed.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh-huh.

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<v Speaker 3>And then.

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<v Speaker 2>No loads refused. Have you heard that term?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so sorry. We've got young people here.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's not right. It's not right.

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<v Speaker 2>People.

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<v Speaker 3>Gay guys come in. I don't even know how they

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<v Speaker 3>find it.

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<v Speaker 2>They come in in more ways than one.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they come in. They put some stuff in the

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<v Speaker 3>back door.

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<v Speaker 2>Period.

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<v Speaker 3>And then they leave.

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<v Speaker 2>Bye-bye.

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<v Speaker 3>And then a guy comes in, like the 10th guy

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<v Speaker 3>comes in.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And has an iced coffee, if you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, God.

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<v Speaker 3>They drink it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, that's less common. That's more niche, I think.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. What's that called? What's felching?

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<v Speaker 1>That's felching, but it's just kind of niche.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and we're not judging in any way, but I think-

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<v Speaker 2>I don't do it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm married, baby, I've never done that.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, and you think a married person can't do it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's very interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>That's really interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, felching is the drinking part of putting.

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<v Speaker 1>It in or loading up? Yeah, the drinking part.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, so what's the loading up? I'm trying to talk

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<v Speaker 3>in metaphors.

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<v Speaker 2>Loads are just loads.

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<v Speaker 1>No loads refused. Oh, so it's sides?

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<v Speaker 3>Lodes, body neutrality. Is there going to be a fucking

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<v Speaker 3>quiz after this?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there sure is.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a midterm for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, so the felching's the actual drinking of it.

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<v Speaker 1>See, I didn't know that. Oh, yeah, that's the felching part.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's lodes and felching.

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<v Speaker 2>Body neutrality.

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<v Speaker 1>First comes lodes, then comes felching.

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<v Speaker 2>And then when you do a lot of that, you're like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what? I'm a side.

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<v Speaker 1>When you're a side, you're at peace. That's right.

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<v Speaker 3>Put the rim shot in, this kid's good. Fuck, wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Any other gay things you can tell me about?

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<v Speaker 2>Have you heard of Addison Rae?

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<v Speaker 3>Is that a person?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Or a thing? She's a really young pop star. She

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<v Speaker 2>just came out onto the scene a couple years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>She is blonde.

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<v Speaker 1>And- She is a dancer.

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<v Speaker 2>She's very influenced by certain eras of Madonna. She dances

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<v Speaker 2>a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>She's sort of a normal girl.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she's kind of like a normal girl, but also

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<v Speaker 2>a pop star. But cool. But cool. Who else?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not ringing any bells.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's your pop star?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you love Tina Turner. I know from reading your book.

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<v Speaker 3>I like Tina Turner, of course. And I do listen

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<v Speaker 3>to Creed. Again, I had that answer prepared because I

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<v Speaker 3>thought we were doing a straight podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me about your relationship with Creed.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay. Now, Bridget Everett's my buddy.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh-huh.

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<v Speaker 3>And The other day, you know, I was having some emotions.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't happen a lot because I just try to

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<v Speaker 3>suffocate them.

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<v Speaker 2>You got to shut it down.

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<v Speaker 3>Comedy, showbiz. Hello. So I was feeling it, and I

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<v Speaker 3>just put on Creed on my Spotify. I know I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not supposed to use Spotify, but I mean, iHeartMedia. They

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<v Speaker 3>have music?

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<v Speaker 2>Apple Music.

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<v Speaker 1>Showbiz. Yeah. You put on your Creed vinyl.

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<v Speaker 3>I put on my Creed.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Creed vinyl. Ethically sourced secondhand.

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<v Speaker 3>To, like, get the vibes out of the emotions. And

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<v Speaker 3>I was in the bathroom, just because I thought you

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<v Speaker 3>were straight, guys. I was in the bathroom taking a dump,

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<v Speaker 3>listening to Creed.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, we take dumps, too.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, no, you take loads.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Damn, got my ass.

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<v Speaker 2>No.

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<v Speaker 3>No, thank you. So anyway, I was in the bathroom

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<v Speaker 3>doing stuff, and I had it cranked. And it's like.

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<v Speaker 3>Arms wide open. Yeah, yeah. And Bridget called me and

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<v Speaker 3>I hadn't turned it off. And she was like, what

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<v Speaker 3>the fuck is going on? And I'm like, I'm listening

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<v Speaker 3>to Creed. And she goes, bro, no. And she fucking

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<v Speaker 3>hung up on me.

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<v Speaker 1>Really? Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>She didn't like the straight bro Murray.

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<v Speaker 1>So much for the tolerant left.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why we lost the election, right?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So Creed, do you return too often?

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<v Speaker 3>Only when I'm feeling emotions.

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<v Speaker 2>So like once every six years. Do you like a

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<v Speaker 2>sort of an even more extreme version, like a heavy metal?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I know a lot of people who get their

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<v Speaker 2>emotions out by listening to truly like death metal, like

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<v Speaker 2>screaming music.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually don't like death metal because, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 3>too loud. But Thursday, I'll just keep it open. Thursday,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to see Bikini Kill in Williamsburg.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Every time, and I've been doing this since the 90s,

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<v Speaker 3>when Rebel Girl comes out, that is like, I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to work out my shit right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Totally.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like.

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<v Speaker 3>Fuck you, baby. Oh, sorry. I didn't have a stroke.

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<v Speaker 1>You're good. When Creed was sort of in the backlash

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<v Speaker 1>era and people were like, they suck, they suck, they suck.

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<v Speaker 1>Were you like defending them or were you like, they suck?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Sammy, I know you're a comedian. you know, you're

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<v Speaker 3>on stage. And I used to, when I toured with

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<v Speaker 3>La Tigra, I used to make a couple of Creed jokes.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>During that backlash period.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh-huh.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'll do an impersonation of the audience after I

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<v Speaker 3>made a Creed joke.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, here it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, they weren't responding.

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<v Speaker 1>They weren't loving it.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think it's because they loved Creed or just

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<v Speaker 2>because they thought it was like hack to talk about Creed?

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<v Speaker 3>Ooh, interesting. Yeah, it's tough. Well, that crowd, which is

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<v Speaker 3>like very queer, very positive.

0:19:24.560 --> 0:19:26.320
<v Speaker 2>Trust me, I've been to La Tigre concerts.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's like the irony, and I'm dressed like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, this. So the irony of me making fun

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<v Speaker 3>of Creed may have been lost on that crowd.

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<v Speaker 2>I see.

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<v Speaker 1>The sincere crowd.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, you know. We don't have to say it

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<v Speaker 1>out loud.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we don't have to say it out loud, but

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<v Speaker 3>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm confused currently. I think it's interesting that Creed is like,

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<v Speaker 1>I recognize, liked now, like Gen Z is like Creed

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<v Speaker 1>is funny to put on. Because it scares me because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what? You never know what's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>ironically liked.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, completely.

0:20:00.590 --> 0:20:02.930
<v Speaker 1>Whereas the next generation will just think Creed is good

0:20:02.990 --> 0:20:04.830
<v Speaker 1>because the people older than them just liked it, even

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<v Speaker 1>though it's ironic.

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<v Speaker 2>Which happened with Journey.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly. Exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Creed does have a couple of good songs.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, listen. They've got Photograph.

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<v Speaker 1>No.

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<v Speaker 3>No, that's Def Leppard.

0:20:14.130 --> 0:20:16.450
<v Speaker 1>That's... Look at this photograph!

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's Kid Rock and Sheryl Crow.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 1>You're thinking of I'll put your picture away.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my God, you're right.

0:20:24.180 --> 0:20:25.540
<v Speaker 2>Wow, you really clocked that.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone's gaslighting me.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so Photograph is Creed?

0:20:29.060 --> 0:20:30.820
<v Speaker 1>Photograph is Creed. Arms wide open.

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<v Speaker 2>There's the other one, Higher. Fuck!

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you. Thank you. We were not gaslighting you, bitch!

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<v Speaker 1>What's the difference between Creed and Nickelback? They are so

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<v Speaker 1>identical to me.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, Nickelback has, what's that? I listened to that too.

0:20:44.240 --> 0:20:45.639
<v Speaker 3>I don't, that's a real.

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<v Speaker 1>They are so identical to me.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. It's bros.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Long hair.

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<v Speaker 3>Trying to have emotions before they go to rehab.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. And often, you know, they never make it

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<v Speaker 2>to rehab because they have too many emotions on the page.

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<v Speaker 3>Showbiz.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And Creed is the one that's like the guy in

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<v Speaker 1>the mud. The album covers the guy in the mud.

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<v Speaker 1>Or is that Nickelback?

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<v Speaker 3>I think he's like Jesus or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's Christianity there.

0:21:13.970 --> 0:21:17.030
<v Speaker 2>A lot of times the angriest people love Jesus. It's

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<v Speaker 2>weird how that works out.

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<v Speaker 3>No comment. I never met the guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus? Yes. Oh, you would love him.

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<v Speaker 1>He's fab. He's really nice. Seriously.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's a great host. He'll put out a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of hors d'oeuvres.

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<v Speaker 3>He puts out a lot of sides.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of sides.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of sides.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk about a side.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk about a side.

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus was definitely a side.

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus was a side down.

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<v Speaker 2>Shall we do our first segment?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, that wasn't a segment?

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<v Speaker 1>No. Our first segment is called Straight Shooters.

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<v Speaker 2>You're already going to be confused. You're going to hate this.

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<v Speaker 1>I already have to. You're going to hate this.

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<v Speaker 3>Are we doing a game? Yes. Oh, shit.

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<v Speaker 1>In this game, we ask you a series of rapid

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<v Speaker 1>fire questions. It's basically this thing or this other thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and you pick one. And the only rule is you

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<v Speaker 1>can't ask any follow-up questions or we will scream.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to just pick one.

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<v Speaker 3>How am I going to do that? You've seen me already. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>so you're going to say something. I just pick one.

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<v Speaker 2>Murray Hill.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm already talking too much.

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<v Speaker 2>I love rock and roll or I'm here. Flaws and all.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't do this. Rock and roll.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. Tuna on Shibata or Hakuna Matata?

0:22:35.920 --> 0:22:37.080
<v Speaker 3>Hakuna Machata.

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<v Speaker 2>Being invited to prom or being indicted for doing something wrong? Indicted.

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<v Speaker 1>Bricking your phone or sniffing pheromones?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's tough.

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<v Speaker 1>Shit.

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<v Speaker 3>Can we put it? Jeopardy thing, ding, ding, ding. Sniffing pheromones.

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<v Speaker 2>Sunday nights on HBO or picking a fight with a

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<v Speaker 2>guy named Joe?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, since, well, we were canceled on Sunday night.

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<v Speaker 2>But you were on Sunday nights on HBO.

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<v Speaker 3>We were on Sunday nights, so picking a fight.

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<v Speaker 1>Ebony and Ivory?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes. I don't even want to hear the rest

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<v Speaker 3>of it. I love that song.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. All right.

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<v Speaker 2>Classic. The seven deadly sins or the four fabulous ladies

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<v Speaker 2>of Sex and the City?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>The ladies of Sex and the City.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll say. A public service or a product purchase?

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<v Speaker 3>Did you think I was gay? Public service, fellas.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the La Tigra ethos coming out. Yes, yes, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Help the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Stunning work.

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<v Speaker 1>Incredible as always.

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<v Speaker 2>So what happens?

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<v Speaker 3>I get a prize?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes. So we rate our guests on a scale of

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<v Speaker 1>0 to 1,000 doves.

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<v Speaker 2>And your score is 900 doves.

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<v Speaker 1>Doves? Doves.

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<v Speaker 2>We will be sending them to your home.

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<v Speaker 3>Like the chocolates?

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<v Speaker 2>No, the live birds.

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<v Speaker 3>Not the, you know, the. Women, body positive creams?

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<v Speaker 1>No, no creams.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't believe in body positivity here.

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<v Speaker 1>We're neutral. We're neutral at best.

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<v Speaker 3>We have to come up with something where- We're skinny, fat,

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<v Speaker 3>and we're sides. Okay, what's a word that you don't

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<v Speaker 3>even acknowledge your body? Let's come up with that.

0:24:10.580 --> 0:24:11.159
<v Speaker 2>Wait, what's the word?

0:24:11.180 --> 0:24:12.960
<v Speaker 1>Body doesn't exist? Yeah, body.

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<v Speaker 3>BNE?

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<v Speaker 2>Body invisibility?

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<v Speaker 1>Body invisibility.

0:24:17.780 --> 0:24:19.720
<v Speaker 2>Body erasure. Body erasure. Body erasure.

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<v Speaker 3>Body erasure.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm committing body erasure.

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<v Speaker 2>Erasure.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, body erasure.

0:24:24.400 --> 0:24:25.900
<v Speaker 2>Body erasure is a new movement.

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<v Speaker 3>That we started right here on this podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>That we started where you don't even believe you.

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<v Speaker 1>Have a body.

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<v Speaker 3>You know when they say talking heads? That's what we're doing.

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<v Speaker 3>Talking heads. No bodies.

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<v Speaker 1>No bodies. And if someone's like, I'm skinny fat, I'm like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you're nothing.

0:24:39.119 --> 0:24:39.620
<v Speaker 2>You're nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>You're nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>You're just a head.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk about true equality.

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<v Speaker 3>Just a head. That could mean something else.

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<v Speaker 1>For you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true.

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<v Speaker 1>It could mean a lot for us. Head. Oh, God.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, head means the same thing for all sexualities.

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<v Speaker 1>It does? Well, sometimes.

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<v Speaker 2>Getting, giving.

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<v Speaker 1>No? Yeah, no, you're right. Depends on which culture you're in,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess.

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<v Speaker 2>We thought load was gay only, and then the wonderful

0:25:01.750 --> 0:25:04.510
<v Speaker 2>straight men who work with us informed us that it is,

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<v Speaker 2>in fact, also used for straights.

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<v Speaker 3>Where do they put the load?

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<v Speaker 2>I think you can picture where they put the load.

0:25:13.200 --> 0:25:16.560
<v Speaker 2>They invented it. They did classic, and then we made

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<v Speaker 2>it alt.

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<v Speaker 3>I wish this was a whiteboard. You could draw it

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<v Speaker 3>out for me, because.

0:25:20.280 --> 0:25:22.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm actually trying to figure out.

0:25:22.200 --> 0:25:25.520
<v Speaker 1>What happened was my uncle, who was straight, said something

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<v Speaker 1>about a load. And I was like, do you remember this?

0:25:27.960 --> 0:25:29.540
<v Speaker 1>This is how we started talking about this, I think.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, yes. And we were like, I can't believe you

0:25:32.520 --> 0:25:32.980
<v Speaker 2>know that word.

0:25:33.020 --> 0:25:34.699
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, oh, is he gay? I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>is my uncle secretly gay? Yes.

0:25:36.140 --> 0:25:39.290
<v Speaker 2>And then someone who shall not be named who works...

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<v Speaker 2>with us in our Los Angeles... No, no, no. It

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<v Speaker 2>was our Los Angeles team. Of course. He was like, yeah, no.

0:25:47.710 --> 0:25:49.580
<v Speaker 2>We know what loads are. We say loads, too. Yeah,

0:25:49.619 --> 0:25:50.240
<v Speaker 2>people say loads.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, I thought it was just gay.

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<v Speaker 1>It's crazy. It's only a load if you're a gay guy. No.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, this interview is going so off the track, but

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<v Speaker 3>can I ask a question?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Legitimate, sincere.

0:25:59.080 --> 0:26:00.580
<v Speaker 2>So far, it's going exactly how we planned.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay. I should know this, but... Okay, so.

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<v Speaker 3>If straight guy's doing a load, it's not necessarily the

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<v Speaker 3>back door.

0:26:14.990 --> 0:26:15.850
<v Speaker 1>That's right. It just is a load.

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<v Speaker 2>It could be the front door.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>It can also just be like out there. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>have to go into somewhere to be a load. You

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 3>Can that be the pull quote? Okay, I need that

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<v Speaker 3>on a t-shirt. That is, it doesn't need to be somewhere.

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<v Speaker 3>That's beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't need to be put somewhere to be a load.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, that's beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the journey not the destination.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, it's the journey not the destination.

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<v Speaker 3>Sammy, that's funny. Okay, all right, okay, okay. So I

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<v Speaker 3>guess I've had some loads then. Of course.

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<v Speaker 2>You think you got to where you are in showbiz

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<v Speaker 2>without taking any loads?

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<v Speaker 3>Not taking loads.

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<v Speaker 2>Having them.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 2>Producing them.

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<v Speaker 3>Putting them somewhere without it and placing results.

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<v Speaker 2>Presenting them.

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<v Speaker 1>Presenting them.

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<v Speaker 3>Presenting loads.

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<v Speaker 2>Ladies and gentlemen, I'm Myload.

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<v Speaker 3>That should have been the name of my book.

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<v Speaker 1>Solo show. Solo show. Presenting loads.

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<v Speaker 2>Presenting loads.

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<v Speaker 3>Murray Hill loads, one night only. Murray Hill loads, one

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<v Speaker 3>night only.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. That's good.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I do a lot of these types of

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<v Speaker 3>things and I've.

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<v Speaker 2>Never- Talked about loads this much?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that, but I've never learned so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I'm so glad. Well, guess what?

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<v Speaker 2>We have so much more.

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<v Speaker 3>Is there anything else that you sick people do?

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see.

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<v Speaker 2>You would not believe. I'm trying to think.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what's weird?

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<v Speaker 2>Here's something we do. We pay for tickets to various

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<v Speaker 2>parties And then the day of, we try to sell

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<v Speaker 2>them to our friends.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you mean parties?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just like there's all these parties and they're all called,

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<v Speaker 2>they're all called like, &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt;.

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<v Speaker 1>&lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt;.

0:28:09.340 --> 0:28:12.439
<v Speaker 2>&lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt;.

0:28:12.400 --> 0:28:14.300
<v Speaker 1>&lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt;.

0:28:14.720 --> 0:28:20.619
<v Speaker 2>&lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt;

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<v Speaker 2>selling five tickets to Wet Hole.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's very tops and bottoms. There's some people selling

0:28:26.180 --> 0:28:28.470
<v Speaker 1>the tickets. There's some people in desperate need. They're like,

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<v Speaker 1>who has tickets to Wet Hole? I forgot to get tickets.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, you cannot get these two people together. The

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<v Speaker 1>people selling the tickets and the people buying the tickets

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<v Speaker 1>never seem to interact.

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't that sad?

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<v Speaker 3>So it's like StubHub?

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, it's StubHub, but artisanal. For wet holes. It's artisanal StubHub.

0:28:45.350 --> 0:28:46.770
<v Speaker 2>Non-corporate StubHub.

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<v Speaker 1>Community-based.

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<v Speaker 2>Community-based StubHub for wet holes.

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<v Speaker 1>Artisanal StubHub. Yes, exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Shit, so then where do you guys go if you

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<v Speaker 3>don't go to the party?

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<v Speaker 2>So then what happens is- That's a really good question.

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<v Speaker 2>You get a drink, maybe you go to someone's apartment and-

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<v Speaker 2>you know, have a drink with friends. And then of

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<v Speaker 2>course it gets to be 2 a.m. And everyone's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I actually would love to go to Wet Hole, but

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<v Speaker 2>we all sold our tickets. So then you go.

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<v Speaker 1>To Wet Hole anyway. And you see if you can

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<v Speaker 1>get in.

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<v Speaker 2>You see if you can get in.

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<v Speaker 3>And then there's people being like, you need a Wet

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<v Speaker 3>Hole to get in if you don't have a ticket.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it doesn't hurt.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no one without a Wet Hole.

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<v Speaker 3>Sam, don't set me up with jokes like that. If

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<v Speaker 3>it's wet, it does hurt. No, wait, no, you had

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<v Speaker 3>it right.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it depends on what you're using.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, God. Oh, God.

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<v Speaker 1>Should we get into the straight topic?

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<v Speaker 2>I think that would be.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what we've been talking about the whole time.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of wet holes, actually, this relates to your straight topic. So,

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<v Speaker 2>Marie Hill, what is your topic that you brought today?

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<v Speaker 2>and what is straight about it?

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<v Speaker 3>Now, I realize this could mean different things for different people.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's the mind field.

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<v Speaker 3>But the straight thing I wanted to talk about today

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<v Speaker 3>is spitting.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Straight guys and spitting on the street.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't understand. It's making me, I'm like getting upset.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm upset.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like freaking out.

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<v Speaker 2>No, they'll do it in the middle of a nice

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<v Speaker 2>street with designer stores. Have some respect.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a problem on this block.

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<v Speaker 3>In Brooklyn, no disrespect, it's like they wait until someone's

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<v Speaker 3>close to them to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>To show off.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's like, there's a.

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<v Speaker 1>Lot of different kinds.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a sign of aggression. I mean, you know how

0:30:23.290 --> 0:30:26.530
<v Speaker 2>straight men will do like a contest to see who

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<v Speaker 2>can spit farther. Have you ever seen this?

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<v Speaker 3>Is that like- That's a real thing. Given loads, but

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<v Speaker 3>through the mouth?

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no. Well, I guess in some ways.

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<v Speaker 1>That's interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Surely there is a way to see it sexually.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, hey, don't put me in a box. Wait a minute. What? No,

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<v Speaker 3>that's all.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember being like running, I ran cross country in

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<v Speaker 1>high school. And the straight guys would always be spitting

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<v Speaker 1>the whole run. And I was always like, are we

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<v Speaker 1>like biologically built different? Because I have never needed to

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<v Speaker 1>spit ever in my life.

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<v Speaker 2>Really? No.

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<v Speaker 3>But also how loud it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's loud.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a whole production.

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<v Speaker 3>The spitting that also has the phlegm in it. I

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<v Speaker 3>had several experiences of that on my three block walk

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<v Speaker 3>home yesterday. And it was like, and you're like, and

0:31:21.200 --> 0:31:22.870
<v Speaker 3>then you see it. I'm sorry. You see it on

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<v Speaker 3>the ground.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, what's interesting about spitting is like, okay, I,

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<v Speaker 2>all of us have buildup of saliva.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a nasty theory after you, but.

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<v Speaker 2>It's only, but it's only a straight man who is like,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't be uncomfortable for one single second. So I

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<v Speaker 2>am going to spit this and ruin the vibe for

0:31:40.010 --> 0:31:42.820
<v Speaker 2>everyone on this block. Just because I am, I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like I have slightly more saliva than I would like

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<v Speaker 2>in my mouth.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I know we've been a nasty podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course.

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<v Speaker 3>At least today.

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<v Speaker 1>We aren't normally this nasty.

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<v Speaker 3>You are or you're not?

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<v Speaker 1>We're not.

0:31:52.730 --> 0:31:53.690
<v Speaker 3>Don't blame it on me.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you came in here with all that smut.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, falching sides. Oh my God, enough.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's something about, of course, the binary, they're spitting

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<v Speaker 1>and then they're swallowing.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true. So you think swallowing is gay and spitting

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<v Speaker 2>is straight?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I think we also have the phlegm, but we swallow.

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<v Speaker 2>Your comment?

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<v Speaker 3>You asked me for a comment when I was actually

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<v Speaker 3>disassociating and trying to picture what he was just saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Because they're spitting the opposite of that swallow.

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<v Speaker 2>You're completely correct. And I actually think that relates also

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<v Speaker 2>to how gay people and straight people deal with their trauma,

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<v Speaker 2>their life experiences.

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<v Speaker 3>Taking it in.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, exactly. So a gay person is like, oh no,

0:32:42.170 --> 0:32:45.210
<v Speaker 2>I feel something awful. Let me just put it back in.

0:32:45.210 --> 0:32:45.850
<v Speaker 1>Let me get it in there.

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<v Speaker 2>Whereas a straight person is like, ew.

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<v Speaker 1>Ew.

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<v Speaker 2>Spitting out. What do you think of that theory?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, what's the name of this theory? We got

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<v Speaker 3>to write this down so your next guest, you can

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<v Speaker 3>tell them what this is.

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<v Speaker 2>This is spitting theory.

0:32:58.080 --> 0:33:00.700
<v Speaker 1>It's spitting theory? Yeah. Well, spitting versus swallowing theory.

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<v Speaker 2>Doesn't have as much of a ring to it.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, Sammy.

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<v Speaker 2>Sammy, I'm- It's all about branding. Yes. No, you're right.

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<v Speaker 1>You're right.

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<v Speaker 3>But isn't that also- Isn't spitting- Like, don't- Gay guys

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<v Speaker 3>spit on you, or straight people spit on backs.

0:33:14.500 --> 0:33:17.180
<v Speaker 2>And swallow and do all- See, you're going back to sex.

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<v Speaker 2>And I appreciate that you think the way to relate

0:33:21.290 --> 0:33:24.110
<v Speaker 2>to two gay men is to make everything sexual.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know why I would think that. You know

0:33:27.250 --> 0:33:29.500
<v Speaker 3>what I say in my act, fellas? Stereotypes are based

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<v Speaker 3>on facts.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, it's true.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very true. Thank you for speaking out. Finally someone

0:33:36.200 --> 0:33:36.480
<v Speaker 2>said it.

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<v Speaker 3>Spitting on the street is disgusting.

0:33:38.970 --> 0:33:40.510
<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's disgusting. Spitting on the street is, you know

0:33:40.530 --> 0:33:42.030
<v Speaker 2>what else is disgusting? And I can't believe I'm even

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<v Speaker 2>mentioning this. Straight guys will be peeing in the urinal

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<v Speaker 2>and then spit in the urinal while they're peeing.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my God, they do do that. Yes. No, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like extremely common.

0:33:51.040 --> 0:33:51.840
<v Speaker 2>It's very common.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've never related. I've always been like, so we're

0:33:54.300 --> 0:33:55.040
<v Speaker 1>different people.

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<v Speaker 2>The other thing they do, so they spit in the

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<v Speaker 2>urinal and then they also will just go like, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I do do that.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, can I ask you some bathroom questions?

0:34:05.020 --> 0:34:08.680
<v Speaker 1>Please. And I'm glad we're having this conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm glad we're.

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<v Speaker 2>Having this conversation. It is time we had it. This

0:34:11.680 --> 0:34:12.440
<v Speaker 2>is going to be groundbreaking.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, yeah. Now, bathrooms, you know, they're very controversial about

0:34:15.460 --> 0:34:16.759
<v Speaker 3>who goes to what bathroom. Yeah, of course.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one of the biggest issues.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a hack, and I'm wearing Depends right now,

0:34:20.500 --> 0:34:22.319
<v Speaker 3>so I don't have to choose. So I'm actually going

0:34:22.340 --> 0:34:22.860
<v Speaker 3>to the bathroom right now.

0:34:23.040 --> 0:34:23.319
<v Speaker 2>Oh, great.

0:34:23.340 --> 0:34:25.700
<v Speaker 3>Oh, amazing. But when I do go to the men's room,

0:34:25.840 --> 0:34:27.839
<v Speaker 3>which I was at the Barclays Center last night for

0:34:27.860 --> 0:34:30.640
<v Speaker 3>a WNBA game, so... Men's bathroom was free.

0:34:30.660 --> 0:34:33.029
<v Speaker 2>Men's bathroom was one of the most inclusive bathrooms you

0:34:33.050 --> 0:34:35.430
<v Speaker 2>could possibly go to, is the men's bathroom during a

0:34:35.450 --> 0:34:36.350
<v Speaker 2>WNBA game.

0:34:36.489 --> 0:34:40.790
<v Speaker 3>Yes, in Brooklyn. Yes. Okay, now, in the stall, not

0:34:40.830 --> 0:34:45.030
<v Speaker 3>the urinal, but the stall, why is it that guys

0:34:45.670 --> 0:34:52.230
<v Speaker 3>go in there and pee with the door open, seat down,

0:34:53.770 --> 0:34:55.280
<v Speaker 3>and don't get it into the hole?

0:34:56.090 --> 0:34:57.300
<v Speaker 1>Well, the hole is just so small.

0:34:57.340 --> 0:35:01.239
<v Speaker 3>It's all over the fucking, no, the toilet bowl. Like,

0:35:01.280 --> 0:35:02.660
<v Speaker 3>why is it this?

0:35:03.060 --> 0:35:03.500
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:35:03.780 --> 0:35:05.839
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's harder to control than you think.

0:35:05.880 --> 0:35:07.240
<v Speaker 1>It's disgusting. It's so difficult.

0:35:07.260 --> 0:35:09.460
<v Speaker 3>Why is it hard to control? Mine is like, you know,

0:35:09.600 --> 0:35:11.879
<v Speaker 3>under my, you know, shelf at home.

0:35:12.820 --> 0:35:13.220
<v Speaker 1>Totally.

0:35:13.980 --> 0:35:14.240
<v Speaker 2>Right.

0:35:14.940 --> 0:35:16.520
<v Speaker 3>On the drying rack.

0:35:18.280 --> 0:35:19.589
<v Speaker 2>I think that.

0:35:21.040 --> 0:35:23.299
<v Speaker 1>Well, the door open. I can respond to the door open,

0:35:23.360 --> 0:35:23.680
<v Speaker 1>at least.

0:35:23.860 --> 0:35:24.980
<v Speaker 2>The door open thing.

0:35:25.100 --> 0:35:26.480
<v Speaker 1>Because you can't be accused of pooping.

0:35:26.960 --> 0:35:27.480
<v Speaker 2>Yes, exactly.

0:35:27.520 --> 0:35:28.479
<v Speaker 3>Oh, is that what it is?

0:35:28.520 --> 0:35:29.799
<v Speaker 2>You don't want anyone to think you're pooping.

0:35:29.820 --> 0:35:30.500
<v Speaker 3>You guys are deep.

0:35:30.840 --> 0:35:31.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:35:31.460 --> 0:35:32.040
<v Speaker 1>Well, of course.

0:35:32.060 --> 0:35:33.940
<v Speaker 3>Is that really a thing? So there's shame about it.

0:35:34.020 --> 0:35:35.140
<v Speaker 2>Pooping is feminine.

0:35:35.969 --> 0:35:37.870
<v Speaker 3>Is it really? Oh, my God.

0:35:38.170 --> 0:35:38.569
<v Speaker 2>Oh, my God.

0:35:39.070 --> 0:35:39.630
<v Speaker 3>I feel.

0:35:39.810 --> 0:35:40.790
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to go to college right now.

0:35:40.810 --> 0:35:42.700
<v Speaker 2>You're saying I have to sit down? What am I?

0:35:42.770 --> 0:35:43.710
<v Speaker 1>Some sort of faggot?

0:35:44.010 --> 0:35:44.290
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:35:44.330 --> 0:35:45.950
<v Speaker 1>That's how guys think. That's how guys think.

0:35:46.210 --> 0:35:46.790
<v Speaker 3>Are you for real?

0:35:47.530 --> 0:35:48.150
<v Speaker 1>I kind of think so.

0:35:48.210 --> 0:35:52.299
<v Speaker 2>Kind of. Can we get. Reaction shot.

0:35:53.040 --> 0:35:54.279
<v Speaker 1>Big, big reaction shot.

0:35:54.360 --> 0:35:57.200
<v Speaker 3>Wait, so for real? The door is open because you don't,

0:35:57.320 --> 0:36:00.360
<v Speaker 3>there's shame about pooping? Because you know when people are pooping.

0:36:00.840 --> 0:36:03.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh, trust me, especially in a men's bathroom. It's not

0:36:03.910 --> 0:36:06.270
<v Speaker 2>only shame, it's also like a show of.

0:36:07.630 --> 0:36:08.370
<v Speaker 1>Show of pride.

0:36:08.410 --> 0:36:08.770
<v Speaker 2>Pride.

0:36:08.810 --> 0:36:10.730
<v Speaker 1>Because you're like, if you are closing the door to

0:36:10.810 --> 0:36:14.790
<v Speaker 1>pee in the toilet, you're sort of like, you're ashamed.

0:36:15.250 --> 0:36:19.259
<v Speaker 2>Exactly. You're leaving, you're out in the open. You're saying like,

0:36:19.420 --> 0:36:20.620
<v Speaker 2>it's no big deal, I'm just peeing.

0:36:20.760 --> 0:36:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:36:22.440 --> 0:36:23.759
<v Speaker 3>Okay, now why is it hard to get it in?

0:36:23.760 --> 0:36:24.980
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so that's the second part of your question.

0:36:25.000 --> 0:36:25.520
<v Speaker 1>That's the bigger issue.

0:36:25.540 --> 0:36:27.980
<v Speaker 2>You're saying it's harder to get it in with the

0:36:29.860 --> 0:36:33.200
<v Speaker 2>thing down, seat down, or without the seat down?

0:36:33.420 --> 0:36:35.440
<v Speaker 3>No, it's all over the floor. I don't understand.

0:36:35.640 --> 0:36:37.040
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's because they're looking at their phone.

0:36:37.440 --> 0:36:39.920
<v Speaker 2>That is true. And also, guess why else? A lot

0:36:39.940 --> 0:36:42.360
<v Speaker 2>of times they're drunk. I mean, you're talking about a

0:36:42.410 --> 0:36:44.689
<v Speaker 2>public bathroom at Barclays and like a big venue.

0:36:44.710 --> 0:36:46.469
<v Speaker 1>Well, and also there's probably something primal about trying to

0:36:46.530 --> 0:36:47.230
<v Speaker 1>mark the space.

0:36:47.489 --> 0:36:48.590
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're marking the space.

0:36:48.630 --> 0:36:51.270
<v Speaker 3>Sam, what did you study in college? Women's studies? Yeah.

0:36:52.280 --> 0:36:52.960
<v Speaker 2>Wow, drag him.

0:36:53.340 --> 0:36:54.629
<v Speaker 1>English literature.

0:36:54.650 --> 0:36:59.930
<v Speaker 2>Sir Women's Studies. Wait. Why are you, as a man, reading?

0:37:00.340 --> 0:37:03.520
<v Speaker 1>Homo. Yeah, exactly.

0:37:04.820 --> 0:37:06.819
<v Speaker 3>But can you just put it, aim it?

0:37:07.500 --> 0:37:10.799
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, this move you're doing, you know, is

0:37:10.860 --> 0:37:15.020
<v Speaker 2>implying that this is some sort of like elongatable.

0:37:17.080 --> 0:37:18.300
<v Speaker 3>I'm like really outing myself.

0:37:18.320 --> 0:37:20.379
<v Speaker 1>That's like asking, like, you know, can't we just not

0:37:20.420 --> 0:37:22.620
<v Speaker 1>have war? You know, it's like, of course it would

0:37:22.640 --> 0:37:23.719
<v Speaker 1>be amazing if we could just.

0:37:23.739 --> 0:37:24.660
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it would be amazing if we could.

0:37:24.739 --> 0:37:27.239
<v Speaker 1>Can't we just love our neighbor? Like, there's so many

0:37:27.280 --> 0:37:27.990
<v Speaker 1>things that we.

0:37:28.000 --> 0:37:30.359
<v Speaker 2>And those two are basically related. You know, it's like

0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:33.890
<v Speaker 2>if men. could pee inside of the toilet sink, then

0:37:33.910 --> 0:37:35.110
<v Speaker 2>there probably wouldn't be war.

0:37:35.150 --> 0:37:36.690
<v Speaker 1>I love toilet sink. That actually works for me.

0:37:36.690 --> 0:37:37.230
<v Speaker 2>Toilet bowl.

0:37:37.489 --> 0:37:38.509
<v Speaker 3>Is toilet sink a thing?

0:37:38.710 --> 0:37:39.330
<v Speaker 1>No, but I like it.

0:37:39.370 --> 0:37:40.109
<v Speaker 2>We can make it a thing.

0:37:40.350 --> 0:37:40.890
<v Speaker 3>Jesus.

0:37:42.500 --> 0:37:43.220
<v Speaker 2>Back to Jesus.

0:37:43.460 --> 0:37:51.430
<v Speaker 3>Now, do gay guys... Yeah. mark the ground also, or

0:37:51.450 --> 0:37:52.489
<v Speaker 3>is it just a straight guy thing?

0:37:52.510 --> 0:37:54.830
<v Speaker 2>You know, gay guys are marking things you can't even

0:37:54.890 --> 0:37:56.990
<v Speaker 2>imagine in ways that you can't even imagine.

0:37:57.200 --> 0:37:59.239
<v Speaker 1>You know, I think I can speak from some personal

0:37:59.260 --> 0:38:02.219
<v Speaker 1>experience recently. I have been peeing on the floor a lot. What?

0:38:03.000 --> 0:38:06.520
<v Speaker 3>No, Sam, have you? Wait, have you? I legitimately- You

0:38:06.540 --> 0:38:07.380
<v Speaker 3>get a little red.

0:38:07.880 --> 0:38:09.480
<v Speaker 1>I have been missing in a big way.

0:38:10.610 --> 0:38:11.660
<v Speaker 3>In a toilet or the urinal?

0:38:11.680 --> 0:38:14.550
<v Speaker 2>To learn this about my close friend and co-host on air.

0:38:14.560 --> 0:38:15.600
<v Speaker 2>We're kind of freaked out.

0:38:15.700 --> 0:38:16.170
<v Speaker 3>How is it?

0:38:16.219 --> 0:38:17.120
<v Speaker 2>Why is this happening?

0:38:17.580 --> 0:38:20.100
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but it's like I will be like, whoa,

0:38:20.180 --> 0:38:21.560
<v Speaker 1>I missed. Like, I think I.

0:38:21.540 --> 0:38:22.980
<v Speaker 2>Literally am like... Sam, are you on your.

0:38:23.000 --> 0:38:24.040
<v Speaker 3>Is it because you did the special?

0:38:26.380 --> 0:38:28.380
<v Speaker 1>Ever since I did the special, I keep missing. I

0:38:28.400 --> 0:38:30.380
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I'm looking at my phone. I'm not paying attention.

0:38:30.640 --> 0:38:32.050
<v Speaker 1>My head's not in the game in the same way.

0:38:32.120 --> 0:38:35.310
<v Speaker 3>Wait, you're on your phone at the urinal or the toilet?

0:38:35.410 --> 0:38:35.870
<v Speaker 1>Either one.

0:38:36.250 --> 0:38:37.170
<v Speaker 3>And you can't get it in there?

0:38:37.290 --> 0:38:37.750
<v Speaker 1>I'm missing.

0:38:38.110 --> 0:38:38.720
<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm going to be.

0:38:41.969 --> 0:38:42.450
<v Speaker 2>I'm scared.

0:38:45.270 --> 0:38:46.069
<v Speaker 3>I don't even know what to say.

0:38:46.330 --> 0:38:46.590
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:38:46.630 --> 0:38:48.810
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know what to say. I don't even

0:38:48.830 --> 0:38:49.390
<v Speaker 1>know what to say.

0:38:49.410 --> 0:38:52.180
<v Speaker 2>You finally rendered Murray Hill speechless. Are you proud of yourself?

0:38:52.550 --> 0:38:54.100
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. It never happened before.

0:38:55.020 --> 0:38:55.860
<v Speaker 2>Do you know about pups?

0:38:57.780 --> 0:38:58.839
<v Speaker 3>Trick question? No.

0:38:59.480 --> 0:39:01.040
<v Speaker 2>I want to teach you about more gay guy stuff.

0:39:01.760 --> 0:39:02.740
<v Speaker 3>Is it like puppies?

0:39:03.239 --> 0:39:05.140
<v Speaker 2>So that's what it's based on. Pup play.

0:39:05.340 --> 0:39:05.819
<v Speaker 3>Wait, what?

0:39:05.960 --> 0:39:09.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So pup play is where gay guys will... It's

0:39:09.600 --> 0:39:13.740
<v Speaker 2>a sort of... Yes. Where you act like a dog.

0:39:14.660 --> 0:39:15.530
<v Speaker 1>And you have a dog mask.

0:39:15.590 --> 0:39:18.489
<v Speaker 2>And you have a dog mask. We're not messing with you.

0:39:20.390 --> 0:39:20.970
<v Speaker 2>It's valid.

0:39:23.330 --> 0:39:24.450
<v Speaker 1>I'm just surprised you haven't heard of it.

0:39:24.450 --> 0:39:26.290
<v Speaker 2>So take that back to your community and then teach them.

0:39:26.830 --> 0:39:27.150
<v Speaker 3>Pups?

0:39:27.590 --> 0:39:28.110
<v Speaker 2>Yes, pups.

0:39:29.670 --> 0:39:29.850
<v Speaker 1>So.

0:39:30.670 --> 0:39:32.090
<v Speaker 3>So somebody acts like a dog.

0:39:32.150 --> 0:39:32.670
<v Speaker 2>Correct.

0:39:33.010 --> 0:39:34.549
<v Speaker 1>And someone acts like a dog owner. Yes.

0:39:35.290 --> 0:39:36.850
<v Speaker 3>And wears a muzzle?

0:39:37.010 --> 0:39:40.520
<v Speaker 2>Yes. It's not a muzzle. It's like a leather mask.

0:39:40.700 --> 0:39:43.399
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes they don't wear masks, so I don't want to be.

0:39:43.480 --> 0:39:46.580
<v Speaker 3>No, nobody wants to get COVID. Worst joke ever, but

0:39:46.600 --> 0:39:46.960
<v Speaker 3>I said it.

0:39:49.469 --> 0:39:51.930
<v Speaker 2>That's your next special. Worst joke ever, but I said it.

0:39:52.830 --> 0:39:53.970
<v Speaker 3>Write it down. Write it down.

0:39:54.570 --> 0:39:57.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so they wear these leather masks that are not

0:39:57.760 --> 0:40:03.180
<v Speaker 2>COVID safe, I don't believe. And they have their, do

0:40:03.219 --> 0:40:05.060
<v Speaker 2>they call them owners or masters?

0:40:05.160 --> 0:40:05.899
<v Speaker 1>Both. Okay.

0:40:07.200 --> 0:40:07.680
<v Speaker 3>And then what?

0:40:08.140 --> 0:40:08.940
<v Speaker 1>And then they sort of.

0:40:09.180 --> 0:40:10.479
<v Speaker 2>You know what? Anything goes.

0:40:10.719 --> 0:40:11.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:40:11.300 --> 0:40:13.580
<v Speaker 2>As soon as the ground rules are set, you can

0:40:13.620 --> 0:40:17.040
<v Speaker 2>do whatever you want. We were once, or Sam was

0:40:17.100 --> 0:40:17.460
<v Speaker 2>once at a party.

0:40:17.480 --> 0:40:17.939
<v Speaker 3>Speechless again.

0:40:18.520 --> 0:40:21.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, one time I went to a pup night in D.C.

0:40:21.900 --> 0:40:23.500
<v Speaker 3>Oh, you guys have all the fun.

0:40:23.560 --> 0:40:24.819
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I didn't know you went to a pup night.

0:40:24.860 --> 0:40:26.859
<v Speaker 2>I thought, I was talking about the party you were

0:40:26.900 --> 0:40:28.989
<v Speaker 2>at where someone walked in with his pups and then

0:40:29.010 --> 0:40:31.109
<v Speaker 2>the pups stayed in the corner waiting to be told

0:40:31.150 --> 0:40:31.730
<v Speaker 2>that they could go home.

0:40:32.150 --> 0:40:34.270
<v Speaker 1>Oh, sure, sure, sure. Yeah, New Year's, right?

0:40:34.290 --> 0:40:34.890
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah.

0:40:37.650 --> 0:40:39.660
<v Speaker 3>So is there ever a mashup of like pups and

0:40:39.700 --> 0:40:40.070
<v Speaker 3>wet holes?

0:40:41.500 --> 0:40:42.020
<v Speaker 2>Oh, wow.

0:40:42.260 --> 0:40:46.360
<v Speaker 1>A pup wet hole collab. Wet hole is actually.

0:40:46.570 --> 0:40:47.650
<v Speaker 2>Oh, you mean wet hole the party?

0:40:47.670 --> 0:40:48.350
<v Speaker 1>The party. Yes.

0:40:48.570 --> 0:40:50.109
<v Speaker 2>I think pups. I think pups.

0:40:50.150 --> 0:40:51.569
<v Speaker 3>No, I meant the actual wet hole.

0:40:51.610 --> 0:40:53.390
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I was about to say, yeah, no, wet holes

0:40:53.450 --> 0:40:56.890
<v Speaker 2>are sort of identity neutral. You know, they can they

0:40:56.910 --> 0:40:59.590
<v Speaker 2>can be anywhere. I do think pups could attend Whithole

0:40:59.630 --> 0:41:00.669
<v Speaker 2>if they wanted, if they had a ticket.

0:41:00.830 --> 0:41:01.470
<v Speaker 1>If they had a ticket.

0:41:01.830 --> 0:41:03.200
<v Speaker 3>And so are the pups naked?

0:41:03.500 --> 0:41:03.640
<v Speaker 1>No.

0:41:03.960 --> 0:41:06.540
<v Speaker 2>Well, they can be, but often when they're out, they're

0:41:06.580 --> 0:41:10.120
<v Speaker 2>just like, maybe just like a leathery- A jockstrap. A jockstrap,

0:41:10.180 --> 0:41:12.509
<v Speaker 2>leather harness, and pup mask.

0:41:13.469 --> 0:41:15.270
<v Speaker 1>Maybe a tail butt plug type of thing.

0:41:15.290 --> 0:41:15.790
<v Speaker 2>That's right.

0:41:16.340 --> 0:41:18.720
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so I'm the one that's making this all about sex?

0:41:18.900 --> 0:41:22.540
<v Speaker 3>A tail butt plug? What the fuck is that?

0:41:22.580 --> 0:41:23.440
<v Speaker 1>We're trying to teach you.

0:41:23.480 --> 0:41:25.400
<v Speaker 3>Is there a tail on a butt plug?

0:41:25.500 --> 0:41:26.400
<v Speaker 2>Yes. No.

0:41:26.840 --> 0:41:28.779
<v Speaker 3>I need to see a fucking picture right now.

0:41:28.800 --> 0:41:30.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to show you the butt plug picture

0:41:30.100 --> 0:41:32.000
<v Speaker 2>because that would be sexual harassment since we're in a

0:41:32.020 --> 0:41:34.400
<v Speaker 2>professional environment. But I do want to show you what

0:41:34.660 --> 0:41:36.760
<v Speaker 2>a pup mask looks like. Oh, shit.

0:41:37.840 --> 0:41:39.460
<v Speaker 3>Wait, are you for real? There's a butt plug that's

0:41:39.500 --> 0:41:40.040
<v Speaker 3>like a tail?

0:41:40.120 --> 0:41:40.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:41:40.380 --> 0:41:41.270
<v Speaker 3>Like it has a tail on it?

0:41:41.460 --> 0:41:42.989
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like a big rubber tail.

0:41:43.860 --> 0:41:46.359
<v Speaker 3>Did you know about this? I mean, yes and.

0:41:48.200 --> 0:41:49.660
<v Speaker 2>No. These are like examples. Oh, my God.

0:41:49.900 --> 0:41:51.219
<v Speaker 1>I'm surprised you didn't know about this.

0:41:52.200 --> 0:41:53.260
<v Speaker 3>Okay, that does look like a dog.

0:41:53.430 --> 0:41:53.950
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:41:54.190 --> 0:41:56.950
<v Speaker 3>It's kind of cute. This is my baby dog. You

0:41:56.969 --> 0:41:57.370
<v Speaker 3>want a treat?

0:41:57.810 --> 0:41:58.950
<v Speaker 2>This is someone wearing one.

0:41:59.170 --> 0:41:59.770
<v Speaker 3>That's horrifying.

0:41:59.969 --> 0:42:00.129
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

0:42:00.150 --> 0:42:04.149
<v Speaker 3>How do they get a treat if their mouth is closed?

0:42:04.170 --> 0:42:04.910
<v Speaker 1>No, there's a little hole.

0:42:04.930 --> 0:42:05.529
<v Speaker 2>There's a little hole.

0:42:05.570 --> 0:42:06.130
<v Speaker 1>Come on.

0:42:06.150 --> 0:42:06.549
<v Speaker 2>Come on.

0:42:06.570 --> 0:42:08.100
<v Speaker 1>You got to be able to access the mouth.

0:42:09.160 --> 0:42:10.340
<v Speaker 3>That's your special thing.

0:42:10.400 --> 0:42:11.860
<v Speaker 2>You got to access the mouth.

0:42:12.100 --> 0:42:15.899
<v Speaker 3>One night only, Sammy. Wow, is there anything else? I mean,

0:42:15.980 --> 0:42:17.860
<v Speaker 3>I know you probably had some prepared items.

0:42:17.880 --> 0:42:19.299
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's pretty much all we want.

0:42:19.340 --> 0:42:21.180
<v Speaker 2>You told us you were curious to learn about gay guys.

0:42:21.200 --> 0:42:23.080
<v Speaker 1>We'll see if anything else comes up naturally.

0:42:23.100 --> 0:42:24.980
<v Speaker 3>Okay, pups, felching.

0:42:25.160 --> 0:42:30.080
<v Speaker 2>Sides. Body neutrality and body erasure, which we made up.

0:42:30.340 --> 0:42:32.560
<v Speaker 1>Yes. So spitting.

0:42:32.600 --> 0:42:33.860
<v Speaker 3>And I know guys like going in the woods.

0:42:34.380 --> 0:42:35.020
<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah.

0:42:35.100 --> 0:42:36.500
<v Speaker 2>That's also spitting, right?

0:42:37.500 --> 0:42:38.100
<v Speaker 1>In what sense?

0:42:38.120 --> 0:42:39.860
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, I was just trying to tie it together.

0:42:39.900 --> 0:42:41.779
<v Speaker 2>You're pointing to a truth. You're pointing to a truth,

0:42:41.820 --> 0:42:45.470
<v Speaker 2>which is that for gay people, spitting is bad. primarily sexual,

0:42:45.510 --> 0:42:47.380
<v Speaker 2>whereas for straight people, it's just something you do on

0:42:47.420 --> 0:42:47.779
<v Speaker 2>the street.

0:42:47.840 --> 0:42:48.920
<v Speaker 1>It's offensive. Yes, yeah, yeah.

0:42:48.940 --> 0:42:51.340
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I hate to be judgmental like that, but for

0:42:51.360 --> 0:42:52.120
<v Speaker 3>you guys, it's okay.

0:42:52.340 --> 0:42:55.120
<v Speaker 2>With spitting, it's like, you know how the most dramatic

0:42:55.160 --> 0:42:57.780
<v Speaker 2>thing that can happen in a movie is someone spitting

0:42:57.840 --> 0:42:59.020
<v Speaker 2>on someone's face, like as a.

0:42:59.020 --> 0:43:01.009
<v Speaker 1>Sign of disrespect? Oh, totally.

0:43:01.030 --> 0:43:02.509
<v Speaker 2>That's such a, it's like the scene in a movie

0:43:02.550 --> 0:43:05.750
<v Speaker 2>where someone slaps someone, you know, it's so, or it's

0:43:05.770 --> 0:43:08.210
<v Speaker 2>like someone's being like handcuffed, and so the one thing

0:43:08.250 --> 0:43:09.930
<v Speaker 2>they still have is their spit.

0:43:09.950 --> 0:43:12.670
<v Speaker 3>Well, you know about, well, maybe you don't, but sports.

0:43:12.910 --> 0:43:13.200
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes.

0:43:13.719 --> 0:43:18.120
<v Speaker 3>Especially baseball, if there's like a huge confrontation and the

0:43:18.160 --> 0:43:20.450
<v Speaker 3>coach comes out and is like screaming at the ref,

0:43:20.989 --> 0:43:24.609
<v Speaker 3>the worst disrespectful thing that will get the coach kicked

0:43:24.670 --> 0:43:27.250
<v Speaker 3>out of the game, takes off his hat and goes,

0:43:28.150 --> 0:43:31.029
<v Speaker 3>just spits on the floor and he gets ejected immediately. Yeah,

0:43:31.130 --> 0:43:32.810
<v Speaker 3>that's like a real thing, guys. That's what I can

0:43:32.850 --> 0:43:33.150
<v Speaker 3>teach you.

0:43:33.390 --> 0:43:36.130
<v Speaker 1>That doesn't even seem that offensive. Sometimes I.

0:43:38.219 --> 0:43:39.299
<v Speaker 2>Sorry, he's not doing pub play.

0:43:39.400 --> 0:43:41.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, maybe if the coach did pub play, I could

0:43:41.340 --> 0:43:43.339
<v Speaker 1>see him being removed from the game. That's inappropriate.

0:43:44.020 --> 0:43:48.660
<v Speaker 3>But to his point, it's very disrespectful to spit. Just

0:43:48.700 --> 0:43:49.460
<v Speaker 3>the act of spitting.

0:43:49.480 --> 0:43:49.919
<v Speaker 2>Yes, no, correct.

0:43:49.960 --> 0:43:51.680
<v Speaker 3>You're not, like, he doesn't have phlegm. He's just like.

0:43:52.980 --> 0:43:54.340
<v Speaker 1>Does stuff come out or is it fake?

0:43:55.660 --> 0:43:56.259
<v Speaker 3>I think it's real.

0:43:56.620 --> 0:43:56.880
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

0:43:57.000 --> 0:43:58.219
<v Speaker 3>It's not like phlegm.

0:43:58.280 --> 0:44:00.020
<v Speaker 2>You're right that it's the ultimate sign of disrespect.

0:44:00.040 --> 0:44:02.200
<v Speaker 3>And that's why the refs always go.

0:44:02.219 --> 0:44:03.879
<v Speaker 2>Get out of here. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:44:04.360 --> 0:44:05.799
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes I like to mime. I like to do this

0:44:05.820 --> 0:44:06.069
<v Speaker 1>a lot.

0:44:08.260 --> 0:44:08.719
<v Speaker 3>What's this?

0:44:08.739 --> 0:44:10.000
<v Speaker 2>Like a slap?

0:44:10.040 --> 0:44:11.960
<v Speaker 1>That's when I'm going to hit someone. Oh. I think

0:44:11.980 --> 0:44:14.500
<v Speaker 1>it's a fun... I don't know why the spit first,

0:44:14.520 --> 0:44:15.700
<v Speaker 1>but I like the motion.

0:44:15.719 --> 0:44:21.040
<v Speaker 3>Do you have insurance?

0:44:22.600 --> 0:44:24.239
<v Speaker 2>All right. None of us have insurance.

0:44:24.300 --> 0:44:30.339
<v Speaker 3>Same. But thanks, iHeart. Well, maybe we could help you

0:44:30.360 --> 0:44:31.160
<v Speaker 3>pay for some therapy.

0:44:32.100 --> 0:44:34.140
<v Speaker 1>It's just a funny... No one's laughing.

0:44:35.390 --> 0:44:37.549
<v Speaker 3>That's okay. You got your special coming out.

0:44:38.600 --> 0:44:39.620
<v Speaker 1>It's canceled, it's canceled.

0:44:39.640 --> 0:44:39.960
<v Speaker 3>Showbiz.

0:44:40.239 --> 0:44:40.819
<v Speaker 1>Showbiz.

0:44:40.860 --> 0:44:41.319
<v Speaker 2>After this episode.

0:44:41.340 --> 0:44:42.799
<v Speaker 3>You're going to put it on Trump TV. He's got

0:44:42.820 --> 0:44:43.540
<v Speaker 3>his own network now.

0:44:43.880 --> 0:44:44.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he pays really well.

0:44:44.739 --> 0:44:46.339
<v Speaker 3>Wait, so you spit on it and you just don't

0:44:46.360 --> 0:44:46.860
<v Speaker 3>hit anybody?

0:44:47.219 --> 0:44:47.620
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:44:48.500 --> 0:44:51.000
<v Speaker 2>It's like how people will go like... Yeah.

0:44:51.380 --> 0:44:52.600
<v Speaker 3>Oh, like Italian mothers.

0:44:53.160 --> 0:44:53.600
<v Speaker 2>Correct.

0:44:54.500 --> 0:44:55.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like that.

0:44:55.739 --> 0:44:59.339
<v Speaker 2>Okay. You had that reference locked and loaded. I don't know.

0:44:59.520 --> 0:45:01.960
<v Speaker 1>For some reason, I just think it's... The spitting on

0:45:01.980 --> 0:45:04.920
<v Speaker 1>the hand is always a funny little gesture to me.

0:45:05.020 --> 0:45:05.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:45:06.760 --> 0:45:07.120
<v Speaker 1>I also.

0:45:07.219 --> 0:45:09.520
<v Speaker 2>I thought you were going to go like, Like let's

0:45:09.540 --> 0:45:10.100
<v Speaker 2>shake on it with spit.

0:45:10.140 --> 0:45:11.420
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I never understood what that meant.

0:45:11.580 --> 0:45:14.700
<v Speaker 2>Oh, that's like- That's gross. Totally. But I think what

0:45:14.739 --> 0:45:17.310
<v Speaker 2>it means is like, we're like, it's like blood packed.

0:45:17.330 --> 0:45:17.890
<v Speaker 1>We're brothers.

0:45:17.910 --> 0:45:19.210
<v Speaker 2>We're brothers, bodily fluids.

0:45:19.390 --> 0:45:20.729
<v Speaker 1>We kissed via hand.

0:45:20.750 --> 0:45:24.149
<v Speaker 2>We kissed. You ever seal a business deal with just

0:45:24.210 --> 0:45:25.190
<v Speaker 2>a nice make-out session?

0:45:26.110 --> 0:45:26.890
<v Speaker 1>They should do that.

0:45:26.910 --> 0:45:29.570
<v Speaker 2>They should. So Murray Hill.

0:45:30.910 --> 0:45:33.149
<v Speaker 3>I've never been speechless this much in my entire life.

0:45:43.910 --> 0:45:48.250
<v Speaker 2>I want to talk to you about hosting because it's

0:45:48.270 --> 0:45:51.109
<v Speaker 2>something you're incredibly good at. And it's something I'm actually

0:45:51.260 --> 0:45:55.759
<v Speaker 2>incredibly bad at. I recently... As we're hosting a podcast. Well, no,

0:45:55.820 --> 0:45:57.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm amazing at hosting a podcast.

0:45:57.300 --> 0:45:57.940
<v Speaker 1>Needless to say.

0:45:58.100 --> 0:46:00.759
<v Speaker 2>But, you know, it's a different skill than going out

0:46:00.780 --> 0:46:03.600
<v Speaker 2>and doing a set. And I recently hosted this show

0:46:03.640 --> 0:46:07.400
<v Speaker 2>in East Hampton. And as you can imagine, you know... Where? Guildhall.

0:46:08.440 --> 0:46:10.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure you have. uh, perform there.

0:46:10.760 --> 0:46:10.920
<v Speaker 1>Right.

0:46:11.660 --> 0:46:13.819
<v Speaker 2>Cause I, there's a, there's a giant, um, you know,

0:46:14.400 --> 0:46:17.930
<v Speaker 2>wall with all the framed, uh, headshots of everyone. I'm

0:46:17.950 --> 0:46:21.890
<v Speaker 2>pretty sure I saw yours. Oh, showbiz. Um, and I

0:46:21.930 --> 0:46:24.090
<v Speaker 2>want to know like, what's your, you go out there

0:46:24.510 --> 0:46:26.609
<v Speaker 2>cause I went out, you know, this crowd is like

0:46:26.700 --> 0:46:31.169
<v Speaker 2>median age of 78. Um, they have no idea who

0:46:31.190 --> 0:46:33.049
<v Speaker 2>I am. They just got an email that said, you know,

0:46:33.110 --> 0:46:37.920
<v Speaker 2>comedy night, Brooklyn comedy night, gay guy comedy night, come on.

0:46:38.120 --> 0:46:41.160
<v Speaker 2>So be just like your grandson. How do you relate

0:46:41.180 --> 0:46:43.900
<v Speaker 2>to that? You go out there, you are who you are.

0:46:44.000 --> 0:46:45.839
<v Speaker 2>How do you get that crowd on your side?

0:46:46.500 --> 0:46:49.160
<v Speaker 3>Well, I call that, I call that, I'm stupid.

0:46:52.330 --> 0:46:53.109
<v Speaker 2>So far, so good.

0:46:53.150 --> 0:46:53.870
<v Speaker 1>Really good.

0:46:55.950 --> 0:46:57.010
<v Speaker 3>I call that going out cold.

0:46:57.030 --> 0:46:59.430
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes. Oh, could not have been colder.

0:46:59.590 --> 0:47:04.570
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. It's probably related to some masochism as being a comedian,

0:47:04.830 --> 0:47:05.969
<v Speaker 3>but I love going out cold.

0:47:06.090 --> 0:47:07.629
<v Speaker 1>Really? Tell me more.

0:47:07.670 --> 0:47:11.310
<v Speaker 3>Because it's just brutal, but it is a challenge. Yeah.

0:47:11.550 --> 0:47:12.610
<v Speaker 2>It's like exposure therapy.

0:47:12.800 --> 0:47:18.700
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. And I did a birthday party the other night, showbiz,

0:47:19.160 --> 0:47:22.180
<v Speaker 3>in a basement. It was decorated like a wine cellar,

0:47:22.900 --> 0:47:27.560
<v Speaker 3>private party kind of thing. And families, you know. Up

0:47:27.600 --> 0:47:29.840
<v Speaker 3>to 85 children.

0:47:29.860 --> 0:47:31.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:47:31.140 --> 0:47:34.420
<v Speaker 3>There's no act for me in a car there. So,

0:47:34.780 --> 0:47:40.350
<v Speaker 3>you know, that was going out full blown cold. Now, kids,

0:47:42.670 --> 0:47:45.910
<v Speaker 3>I got a lot of experience going out cold. Like

0:47:45.910 --> 0:47:46.430
<v Speaker 3>30 years.

0:47:46.450 --> 0:47:47.109
<v Speaker 2>Uh-huh.

0:47:48.350 --> 0:47:52.209
<v Speaker 3>And the thing you got to do is read the room.

0:47:53.070 --> 0:47:57.359
<v Speaker 3>And that doesn't sound too deep. But you probably both

0:47:57.400 --> 0:48:01.740
<v Speaker 3>have seen comedians host shows that all they care about

0:48:02.239 --> 0:48:02.919
<v Speaker 3>is telling a joke.

0:48:03.280 --> 0:48:03.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:48:03.920 --> 0:48:05.020
<v Speaker 3>I know it's a slight difference.

0:48:05.380 --> 0:48:05.980
<v Speaker 2>Sure, sure, sure.

0:48:06.000 --> 0:48:09.250
<v Speaker 3>Like I'm going to do my material no matter what.

0:48:10.170 --> 0:48:12.489
<v Speaker 3>If you don't know me, if you don't like me,

0:48:12.550 --> 0:48:15.050
<v Speaker 3>if I'm not funny, I'm going to do my jokes.

0:48:15.750 --> 0:48:20.310
<v Speaker 3>And that's bomb, bomb city in a cold room like that.

0:48:21.550 --> 0:48:24.470
<v Speaker 3>So I just try to go in and feel the same,

0:48:25.270 --> 0:48:28.169
<v Speaker 3>you know, I read the room, literally read the room,

0:48:28.810 --> 0:48:33.009
<v Speaker 3>and that's where I start my jokes. So then it

0:48:33.070 --> 0:48:36.120
<v Speaker 3>breaks the ice and it's like, okay, I'm on the

0:48:36.140 --> 0:48:38.680
<v Speaker 3>same plane and I go, this is a classic joke

0:48:38.700 --> 0:48:42.480
<v Speaker 3>that I do. And it's a litmus test for me too,

0:48:42.560 --> 0:48:46.040
<v Speaker 3>like how much I'm going to bomb that night. How

0:48:46.080 --> 0:48:50.300
<v Speaker 3>much am I going to be dead inside? So the older,

0:48:50.940 --> 0:48:55.839
<v Speaker 3>one of the person's birthday, her father's like 79. And,

0:48:55.900 --> 0:48:59.279
<v Speaker 3>you know, he was looking at me like this. You know,

0:48:59.360 --> 0:49:02.089
<v Speaker 3>I'm like going out there in a suit basically for

0:49:02.120 --> 0:49:05.430
<v Speaker 3>somebody's bar mitzvah. It was insane. Okay.

0:49:05.510 --> 0:49:08.790
<v Speaker 2>It was a 79-year-old's bar mitzvah? No. Finally, he's a man.

0:49:09.010 --> 0:49:11.010
<v Speaker 1>Got it. Showbiz.

0:49:11.330 --> 0:49:12.370
<v Speaker 3>It was like a bar mitzvah.

0:49:12.390 --> 0:49:13.370
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah. Got it, got it, got it.

0:49:13.370 --> 0:49:17.230
<v Speaker 2>Gay guys, am I right? Am I right?

0:49:18.730 --> 0:49:22.020
<v Speaker 3>So I just do this. joke and I look at

0:49:22.040 --> 0:49:26.420
<v Speaker 3>the guy because he is feeling like, who the fuck

0:49:26.640 --> 0:49:27.060
<v Speaker 3>is this?

0:49:27.120 --> 0:49:28.910
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's like, when will death come?

0:49:29.140 --> 0:49:32.469
<v Speaker 3>I don't want you to be here. You're a fucking clown. Like,

0:49:32.530 --> 0:49:35.750
<v Speaker 3>what is this? And of course, you know, the microphone

0:49:35.790 --> 0:49:37.830
<v Speaker 3>barely works and you're in the dark. You know, all

0:49:37.850 --> 0:49:41.090
<v Speaker 3>those other beautiful... sides of show business.

0:49:42.050 --> 0:49:44.810
<v Speaker 2>Great callback.

0:49:44.830 --> 0:49:47.160
<v Speaker 3>So I looked at the guy and I go, sir,

0:49:48.340 --> 0:49:51.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to do an impersonation of you looking at me.

0:49:51.719 --> 0:49:52.900
<v Speaker 3>And I look at the rest of the crowd and

0:49:52.920 --> 0:49:56.120
<v Speaker 3>I say, you know, they can't see what I'm looking at, sir. So,

0:49:56.420 --> 0:49:58.419
<v Speaker 3>and I say, what's your name? And he's like, Jack.

0:49:58.440 --> 0:49:59.719
<v Speaker 3>I was like, okay, Jack, I'm going to do an

0:49:59.739 --> 0:50:00.430
<v Speaker 3>impersonation of you.

0:50:00.469 --> 0:50:00.759
<v Speaker 2>Here it is.

0:50:00.780 --> 0:50:15.719
<v Speaker 1>Laughter Laughter Laughter Wow.

0:50:17.060 --> 0:50:20.250
<v Speaker 3>And then I say, Jack, I'm reading your mind. He's thinking,

0:50:20.430 --> 0:50:22.410
<v Speaker 3>is it a man or a woman? Is it a

0:50:22.469 --> 0:50:25.350
<v Speaker 3>man or a woman? And I say, Jack, the answer

0:50:25.390 --> 0:50:31.300
<v Speaker 3>is no. Now, if there's no laughter, I'm fucked.

0:50:31.680 --> 0:50:32.580
<v Speaker 1>Sure, sure, sure.

0:50:32.640 --> 0:50:34.020
<v Speaker 3>Okay, and then I'll say, if you didn't laugh at

0:50:34.060 --> 0:50:35.819
<v Speaker 3>that joke, it's going to be the longest three minutes

0:50:35.840 --> 0:50:39.930
<v Speaker 3>of your fucking life tonight. So that's like, you know,

0:50:40.030 --> 0:50:43.189
<v Speaker 3>so you gotta be in there and notice what they're,

0:50:44.150 --> 0:50:46.890
<v Speaker 3>that's what I do. To me, hosting is about the

0:50:46.969 --> 0:50:51.630
<v Speaker 3>audience and then making the performers feel comfortable and like

0:50:51.950 --> 0:50:52.830
<v Speaker 3>building up the energy.

0:50:54.410 --> 0:50:56.190
<v Speaker 2>I think you're absolutely right. It's a different, and I

0:50:56.210 --> 0:50:57.930
<v Speaker 2>think you're so right about people that go in and

0:50:57.950 --> 0:51:00.100
<v Speaker 2>just wanna do their material as though they're like doing

0:51:00.140 --> 0:51:00.980
<v Speaker 2>a scripted play.

0:51:01.640 --> 0:51:04.700
<v Speaker 1>Well, someone wanting to go out to somewhere cold, I'm like,

0:51:04.900 --> 0:51:07.300
<v Speaker 1>I do not relate at all. I recently did a

0:51:07.300 --> 0:51:09.230
<v Speaker 1>show and someone was like, someone was going up first

0:51:09.250 --> 0:51:10.770
<v Speaker 1>and he was like, yeah, I mean, this crowd's not

0:51:10.810 --> 0:51:12.610
<v Speaker 1>really gonna like me, but I kind of like when

0:51:12.630 --> 0:51:13.250
<v Speaker 1>that's the case.

0:51:13.530 --> 0:51:15.469
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, I don't- People are masochists.

0:51:15.610 --> 0:51:17.009
<v Speaker 1>I don't want that ever in my life.

0:51:17.870 --> 0:51:18.810
<v Speaker 3>But have you gone out cold?

0:51:19.230 --> 0:51:21.009
<v Speaker 1>Oh, sure. For sure, many times.

0:51:21.030 --> 0:51:21.330
<v Speaker 3>Oh my God.

0:51:21.370 --> 0:51:22.509
<v Speaker 2>Or can you, yes.

0:51:22.570 --> 0:51:24.049
<v Speaker 1>But I'm just sort of like, do we have to?

0:51:24.070 --> 0:51:26.730
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, I would rather not do it.

0:51:26.830 --> 0:51:27.430
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:51:27.450 --> 0:51:31.200
<v Speaker 3>But you know, this isn't a flex, guys, but I

0:51:31.719 --> 0:51:34.399
<v Speaker 3>was the host of a show at the Sydney Opera

0:51:34.420 --> 0:51:36.299
<v Speaker 3>House for like several seasons, right?

0:51:36.320 --> 0:51:36.400
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

0:51:36.730 --> 0:51:39.230
<v Speaker 3>And it was eight shows a week. And, you know,

0:51:39.250 --> 0:51:42.210
<v Speaker 3>I was on the billboards out there and everything. But

0:51:42.290 --> 0:51:45.370
<v Speaker 3>what I learned, and it made me a better comedian,

0:51:46.230 --> 0:51:50.470
<v Speaker 3>is every night I went out full-blown cold. They didn't

0:51:50.489 --> 0:51:52.260
<v Speaker 3>know who I was. They didn't know what the show was.

0:51:52.280 --> 0:51:55.440
<v Speaker 3>They've never seen anybody like me. And it was like

0:51:55.540 --> 0:52:01.100
<v Speaker 3>a different demographic of Taurus or Nightmare audience every single night.

0:52:01.160 --> 0:52:06.790
<v Speaker 3>It was completely different. So... I think this is New

0:52:06.830 --> 0:52:09.600
<v Speaker 3>York too. New York made me have a thick skin.

0:52:09.719 --> 0:52:09.939
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:52:10.460 --> 0:52:15.120
<v Speaker 3>So I learned to adapt depending on what the crowd

0:52:15.160 --> 0:52:18.480
<v Speaker 3>was like. And I wouldn't have learned that. Oh my God,

0:52:18.520 --> 0:52:27.219
<v Speaker 3>I got to spit. Don't edit that out, it's a theme. No,

0:52:27.410 --> 0:52:28.029
<v Speaker 3>that's a clip.

0:52:28.110 --> 0:52:28.930
<v Speaker 1>They're keeping that.

0:52:33.570 --> 0:52:35.710
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but so in that way, I like going out

0:52:35.750 --> 0:52:39.209
<v Speaker 3>cold because it was like college. I learned from being

0:52:39.270 --> 0:52:41.870
<v Speaker 3>on the boards. It's like an old Bob Dylan term.

0:52:41.910 --> 0:52:45.910
<v Speaker 2>But it sucks. I think my issue right now is,

0:52:47.160 --> 0:52:49.380
<v Speaker 2>I mean, when we were coming up, so much of

0:52:49.460 --> 0:52:53.299
<v Speaker 2>our life was just like performing to rooms that, to

0:52:53.380 --> 0:52:56.420
<v Speaker 2>silence or to like an ambush show at a bar

0:52:56.500 --> 0:52:58.500
<v Speaker 2>where like people didn't even know there was comedy happening

0:52:58.540 --> 0:53:01.590
<v Speaker 2>that night or like, I my first year doing comedy,

0:53:01.630 --> 0:53:03.700
<v Speaker 2>I was in Boston, like the show I hosted was

0:53:03.760 --> 0:53:06.540
<v Speaker 2>literally in a bar owned by a Trump supporter and

0:53:06.580 --> 0:53:09.160
<v Speaker 2>had a MAGA hat on the wall. Like I'm very

0:53:09.260 --> 0:53:12.890
<v Speaker 2>I was very used to comedy crowds that didn't like me.

0:53:13.250 --> 0:53:14.690
<v Speaker 2>And then you get a taste of what it's like

0:53:14.730 --> 0:53:16.930
<v Speaker 2>when the crowd does know you and like we go

0:53:16.989 --> 0:53:18.850
<v Speaker 2>on tour and it's people who listen to the podcast

0:53:19.050 --> 0:53:23.489
<v Speaker 2>or who like. I don't know, know us from online or,

0:53:23.650 --> 0:53:25.790
<v Speaker 2>you know. And then you're like, oh, finally, like I

0:53:25.830 --> 0:53:27.549
<v Speaker 2>don't have to do that anymore. And so then when

0:53:27.570 --> 0:53:29.890
<v Speaker 2>you go back to going out cold, it feels like

0:53:29.930 --> 0:53:31.770
<v Speaker 2>such a defeat because you thought that it was in

0:53:31.790 --> 0:53:34.630
<v Speaker 2>your past, you know? But unfortunately it's the only way

0:53:35.170 --> 0:53:37.469
<v Speaker 2>to keep going and to like convince more people to

0:53:37.530 --> 0:53:38.069
<v Speaker 2>care about you.

0:53:38.290 --> 0:53:40.610
<v Speaker 3>Well, that's the fucked up shit about show business. Like

0:53:40.910 --> 0:53:43.070
<v Speaker 3>I did my Christmas show, two sold out nights at

0:53:43.110 --> 0:53:46.070
<v Speaker 3>Lincoln Center last year. Three nights ago, I was in

0:53:46.110 --> 0:53:49.819
<v Speaker 3>a basement in front of 20 people there like, The

0:53:49.920 --> 0:53:53.200
<v Speaker 3>fuck is this? But I think of it as sports too,

0:53:53.219 --> 0:53:57.259
<v Speaker 3>like playing to the home court. And I toured with

0:53:57.280 --> 0:54:00.080
<v Speaker 3>Dita Von Teese at Burlesque Star for 10 years. And

0:54:00.100 --> 0:54:02.320
<v Speaker 3>we just went over and over, all over the country

0:54:02.340 --> 0:54:05.540
<v Speaker 3>and all over the world. And when you do that

0:54:05.600 --> 0:54:09.219
<v Speaker 3>so many times, there's certain audiences that you're like, oh

0:54:09.260 --> 0:54:12.779
<v Speaker 3>my God. If you just take the West Coast, no

0:54:12.860 --> 0:54:15.020
<v Speaker 3>offense to LA, but you take the West Coast and

0:54:15.040 --> 0:54:17.660
<v Speaker 3>you start at the top and you go Seattle, Portland,

0:54:18.010 --> 0:54:23.500
<v Speaker 3>San Francisco, That is like, they get the jokes, they're hilarious,

0:54:24.120 --> 0:54:26.980
<v Speaker 3>you know, people want you there, they're happy you actually

0:54:27.080 --> 0:54:32.030
<v Speaker 3>just showed up, it's queer, it's fluid, it's like, and

0:54:32.070 --> 0:54:34.310
<v Speaker 3>then it's like, when I feel the energy, I start

0:54:34.330 --> 0:54:41.870
<v Speaker 3>going crazy, crazy. Like I, ping pong, ping pong, ping, ping, ping, ping, ping, ping,

0:54:41.910 --> 0:54:43.650
<v Speaker 3>and they're like, get off stage, you've been up there

0:54:43.690 --> 0:54:46.210
<v Speaker 3>for an hour and a half. And then you go

0:54:46.230 --> 0:54:50.200
<v Speaker 3>to LA and it's industry night. And then you're coming

0:54:50.280 --> 0:54:53.200
<v Speaker 3>out hot from the other shows. And if you, I

0:54:53.219 --> 0:54:56.400
<v Speaker 3>don't know about you guys, but anytime you think about

0:54:57.060 --> 0:55:00.509
<v Speaker 3>the show that went well the night before, when you're

0:55:00.550 --> 0:55:04.250
<v Speaker 3>up the stage the next night, dead on arrival.

0:55:05.030 --> 0:55:06.989
<v Speaker 2>This happened to me literally like two weeks ago.

0:55:07.030 --> 0:55:11.560
<v Speaker 3>You cannot, it's a mental, I don't think people understand

0:55:11.580 --> 0:55:16.259
<v Speaker 3>the mental, insanity that goes into being a comedian. So

0:55:16.280 --> 0:55:20.760
<v Speaker 3>like LA, you'll go and it will be absolutely silent.

0:55:21.440 --> 0:55:24.180
<v Speaker 3>And it's industry night, right? And people go, it's industry night,

0:55:24.200 --> 0:55:27.450
<v Speaker 3>it's industry night, celebrities and press. And it's the worst crowd.

0:55:27.670 --> 0:55:27.910
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:55:28.150 --> 0:55:29.530
<v Speaker 3>Like of the entire tour.

0:55:29.850 --> 0:55:30.029
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:55:30.110 --> 0:55:32.530
<v Speaker 3>Every time. And they don't laugh at anything.

0:55:33.190 --> 0:55:37.680
<v Speaker 2>And they're like, Because either they've seen it all, or

0:55:37.739 --> 0:55:40.319
<v Speaker 2>they themselves are aspiring performers, so they're not interested.

0:55:40.340 --> 0:55:42.859
<v Speaker 1>Or they're like their agent's assistant, and they're just like

0:55:42.880 --> 0:55:43.819
<v Speaker 1>there because they have to be.

0:55:43.840 --> 0:55:46.150
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but it's brutal.

0:55:46.250 --> 0:55:48.530
<v Speaker 2>Whereas in Portland, they're so excited to see burlesque.

0:55:48.950 --> 0:55:50.030
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, it's crazy.

0:55:50.050 --> 0:55:52.270
<v Speaker 2>They're like, Dita Von Teese is kind of like their Madonna.

0:55:52.290 --> 0:55:56.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and then, you know, I definitely bombed over the years. Oh,

0:55:56.660 --> 0:56:00.300
<v Speaker 3>you're human. Yeah, showbiz. But I toured with Countess Luann.

0:56:00.739 --> 0:56:00.839
<v Speaker 2>Oh.

0:56:00.940 --> 0:56:02.100
<v Speaker 3>I'm real housewives of Derek.

0:56:02.120 --> 0:56:02.420
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:56:02.520 --> 0:56:09.290
<v Speaker 3>Hello, Flexx. I don't think I've bombed as hard in

0:56:09.330 --> 0:56:11.049
<v Speaker 3>Miami with her.

0:56:11.070 --> 0:56:12.730
<v Speaker 2>Miami is tough.

0:56:12.810 --> 0:56:14.290
<v Speaker 1>I've heard that's a real thing.

0:56:14.469 --> 0:56:18.230
<v Speaker 3>Brutal. Now, the singer, because it was me and a singer,

0:56:18.710 --> 0:56:20.750
<v Speaker 3>and then, you know, while she's doing costume change, I

0:56:20.790 --> 0:56:22.299
<v Speaker 3>come out and just do a 10-minute set, which is,

0:56:22.760 --> 0:56:26.260
<v Speaker 3>you know, as comedians, 10-minute set, if you're cooking, that's nothing.

0:56:27.000 --> 0:56:31.060
<v Speaker 3>If you're stinking it up, it's fucking living hell.

0:56:31.420 --> 0:56:31.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:56:32.380 --> 0:56:34.520
<v Speaker 3>And I stunk that one up so bad, I felt...

0:56:34.770 --> 0:56:38.190
<v Speaker 3>dirty afterwards you know where you're just like why do

0:56:38.230 --> 0:56:38.970
<v Speaker 3>i do this.

0:56:39.170 --> 0:56:41.790
<v Speaker 2>Was this would you say her audience was like mostly

0:56:41.830 --> 0:56:43.450
<v Speaker 2>women or gay men in miami.

0:56:43.670 --> 0:56:47.060
<v Speaker 3>Well the the one that made that particular weird and

0:56:47.080 --> 0:56:49.120
<v Speaker 3>i was so happy because we're at the jackie gleason

0:56:49.160 --> 0:56:52.140
<v Speaker 3>theater where he filmed his tv show back in the

0:56:52.180 --> 0:56:54.680
<v Speaker 3>old days so i was like oh jackie you know

0:56:54.760 --> 0:56:56.540
<v Speaker 3>he's like that and there's a statue of him in

0:56:56.560 --> 0:56:58.300
<v Speaker 3>the front so i was like oh i need pictures

0:56:58.340 --> 0:57:00.529
<v Speaker 3>of him everywhere i'm like jackie gleason of course no

0:57:00.610 --> 0:57:03.290
<v Speaker 3>one knows the reference of Jackie Gleason in that audience.

0:57:03.350 --> 0:57:04.650
<v Speaker 2>Especially not her audience, no offense.

0:57:05.910 --> 0:57:13.110
<v Speaker 3>But her audience is, it was housewives, rich women, gay men,

0:57:14.020 --> 0:57:17.300
<v Speaker 3>and in Miami, the show was at 7.30. So people

0:57:17.320 --> 0:57:20.479
<v Speaker 3>were still out from the beach. So everyone was late.

0:57:21.540 --> 0:57:24.140
<v Speaker 3>So I'm up there doing jokes and it's half full,

0:57:24.340 --> 0:57:27.640
<v Speaker 3>people are coming in and they are dressed like insane.

0:57:28.390 --> 0:57:31.430
<v Speaker 3>I'm like basically wearing bikinis in there. I'm like, what

0:57:31.510 --> 0:57:36.650
<v Speaker 3>is happening? I'm like, man or woman. And they didn't

0:57:36.690 --> 0:57:39.190
<v Speaker 3>even look at me. But the worst part was the

0:57:39.270 --> 0:57:43.630
<v Speaker 3>cast of the Miami Housewives came in. This is the

0:57:43.830 --> 0:57:47.850
<v Speaker 3>worst part of showbiz. Walked in during my set. So

0:57:47.930 --> 0:57:49.590
<v Speaker 3>they walked in and then, you know.

0:57:49.990 --> 0:57:51.130
<v Speaker 2>Everyone started paying attention to them.

0:57:51.190 --> 0:57:53.150
<v Speaker 3>And they even got up and surrounded them.

0:57:53.270 --> 0:57:53.830
<v Speaker 1>Oh, wow.

0:57:53.850 --> 0:57:54.810
<v Speaker 3>And that was just like.

0:57:54.830 --> 0:57:56.250
<v Speaker 2>Oh, my God.

0:57:56.270 --> 0:57:57.010
<v Speaker 3>That's tough.

0:57:57.050 --> 0:57:58.210
<v Speaker 1>That is so tough.

0:57:58.630 --> 0:57:59.630
<v Speaker 2>God, you have seen it all.

0:57:59.710 --> 0:58:01.430
<v Speaker 3>That was a long 10 minutes, guys.

0:58:01.710 --> 0:58:02.350
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure.

0:58:02.770 --> 0:58:07.860
<v Speaker 3>But there's this other story in Vegas. Vegas was a

0:58:08.090 --> 0:58:10.720
<v Speaker 3>weird one. I did well in that show. But, you know,

0:58:11.020 --> 0:58:12.660
<v Speaker 3>the audience, we were on a Monday night and it

0:58:12.700 --> 0:58:15.240
<v Speaker 3>wasn't full. But every night she sells out. Every night

0:58:15.260 --> 0:58:17.560
<v Speaker 3>she sold out that tour. But this was Monday and

0:58:17.600 --> 0:58:20.080
<v Speaker 3>we were in somebody else's theater. So it was a

0:58:20.100 --> 0:58:22.400
<v Speaker 3>weird one. So it wasn't full and she was pissed.

0:58:23.540 --> 0:58:24.900
<v Speaker 3>And I was sitting there on the wings, you know,

0:58:24.920 --> 0:58:27.460
<v Speaker 3>waiting to go on like a good boy. Because she's

0:58:27.480 --> 0:58:31.300
<v Speaker 3>so much taller than me. She's so hot.

0:58:31.340 --> 0:58:32.500
<v Speaker 2>She is. She looks great.

0:58:32.520 --> 0:58:36.090
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I know, girl. That's it? What's this that you

0:58:36.110 --> 0:58:36.430
<v Speaker 3>guys do?

0:58:36.650 --> 0:58:37.090
<v Speaker 1>Clock it.

0:58:37.510 --> 0:58:39.530
<v Speaker 3>Oh, is that what it means? Fuck, I thought that

0:58:39.550 --> 0:58:42.210
<v Speaker 3>was applause. Fuck, I'm going to get back to this.

0:58:42.250 --> 0:58:44.930
<v Speaker 3>I've got to finish my train of thought. So she

0:58:44.970 --> 0:58:45.530
<v Speaker 3>was pissed.

0:58:45.590 --> 0:58:45.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:58:46.280 --> 0:58:48.100
<v Speaker 3>And I just happened to be right there. And she

0:58:48.160 --> 0:58:52.490
<v Speaker 3>turned around and she was like, you, you, you, All

0:58:52.510 --> 0:58:54.540
<v Speaker 3>of your jokes have to be about the Real Housewives

0:58:54.580 --> 0:58:57.980
<v Speaker 3>of New York starting tonight, right now. And I was like, okay.

0:58:59.700 --> 0:59:01.500
<v Speaker 3>So she went up and did her thing. I went

0:59:01.580 --> 0:59:09.350
<v Speaker 3>out and I did this. Guys, count this the win.

0:59:09.660 --> 0:59:12.800
<v Speaker 3>Just fucking chewed me out backstage saying I had to

0:59:12.840 --> 0:59:16.050
<v Speaker 3>do Real Housewives jokes. And I didn't have the heart

0:59:16.070 --> 0:59:19.490
<v Speaker 3>to tell her I don't watch the show. And then

0:59:19.530 --> 0:59:20.270
<v Speaker 3>I did my damn set.

0:59:21.010 --> 0:59:22.210
<v Speaker 1>Oh my God. Did she?

0:59:22.510 --> 0:59:23.450
<v Speaker 3>No, she was getting changed.

0:59:23.470 --> 0:59:24.010
<v Speaker 2>She was getting changed.

0:59:24.050 --> 0:59:25.010
<v Speaker 1>Nobody told me. Oh, wow.

0:59:25.030 --> 0:59:26.110
<v Speaker 2>And then you went back and you were like, oh

0:59:26.130 --> 0:59:27.610
<v Speaker 2>my God, they love the Housewives material.

0:59:27.630 --> 0:59:28.790
<v Speaker 3>She was like, oh my God, they were laughing. I

0:59:28.790 --> 0:59:29.530
<v Speaker 3>was like, uh-huh.

0:59:29.570 --> 0:59:33.670
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Wow. Wow. I love hearing about when someone pops

0:59:33.790 --> 0:59:37.530
<v Speaker 1>off and is like, threatens almost. Like, you have to

0:59:37.570 --> 0:59:39.030
<v Speaker 1>do that material. That's amazing.

0:59:39.070 --> 0:59:42.640
<v Speaker 3>Well, there's nothing I hate more. And like, that didn't

0:59:42.680 --> 0:59:46.060
<v Speaker 3>throw me off. When somebody comes up right, I don't

0:59:46.080 --> 0:59:49.120
<v Speaker 3>know about you guys, right before you go on and

0:59:49.180 --> 0:59:52.110
<v Speaker 3>either gives you a note or tells you something fucked up.

0:59:52.690 --> 0:59:55.330
<v Speaker 3>And like, literally, and then it's like, Murray Hill, and

0:59:55.350 --> 0:59:56.730
<v Speaker 3>you're like.

0:59:57.820 --> 0:59:57.990
<v Speaker 1>Oh.

0:59:58.800 --> 1:00:01.820
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but that makes it feel so much more showbiz.

1:00:01.900 --> 1:00:03.840
<v Speaker 1>It's so cinematic to have that happen.

1:00:04.080 --> 1:00:07.560
<v Speaker 2>It's, you know, oftentimes Sam references, there's a scene in

1:00:07.580 --> 1:00:09.200
<v Speaker 2>the Katy Perry documentary where she is.

1:00:09.780 --> 1:00:10.560
<v Speaker 3>Oh, okay.

1:00:10.880 --> 1:00:15.740
<v Speaker 2>She is, she finds out she's getting divorced. She's being

1:00:15.780 --> 1:00:17.280
<v Speaker 2>served with divorce papers and she has to go on

1:00:17.320 --> 1:00:17.960
<v Speaker 2>stage immediately.

1:00:18.260 --> 1:00:20.610
<v Speaker 1>And she's like crying, crying, crying, crying, crying. And then

1:00:20.630 --> 1:00:21.890
<v Speaker 1>they're like, do you want to cancel the show? And

1:00:21.910 --> 1:00:24.090
<v Speaker 1>she's like, no. And she's like standing on the platform

1:00:24.110 --> 1:00:26.220
<v Speaker 1>where she's about to get lifted up, crying, crying, crying,

1:00:26.520 --> 1:00:28.880
<v Speaker 1>then like looks forward, stops crying. And then it goes,

1:00:30.060 --> 1:00:31.020
<v Speaker 1>and then gets lifted up.

1:00:31.140 --> 1:00:31.660
<v Speaker 2>And it's like, whoa.

1:00:31.700 --> 1:00:32.760
<v Speaker 3>That's showbiz.

1:00:32.780 --> 1:00:33.980
<v Speaker 2>That's you and Countess Luann.

1:00:34.280 --> 1:00:35.080
<v Speaker 1>That's you and Countess Luann.

1:00:35.160 --> 1:00:36.360
<v Speaker 3>Wait. That's me every night.

1:00:36.440 --> 1:00:39.540
<v Speaker 1>The version of me that happened to once was I

1:00:39.580 --> 1:00:41.930
<v Speaker 1>was on a showcase, of course. It was an audition

1:00:41.970 --> 1:00:45.220
<v Speaker 1>for something. And one of the fellow people showcasing was,

1:00:45.610 --> 1:00:50.670
<v Speaker 1>was like told me that one of my longtime friends

1:00:50.890 --> 1:00:55.010
<v Speaker 1>who had been straight up until that point was hooking

1:00:55.050 --> 1:00:55.550
<v Speaker 1>up with a man.

1:00:56.570 --> 1:00:59.340
<v Speaker 2>And then it was like, welcome to the stage, Sam Taggart.

1:00:59.580 --> 1:01:00.640
<v Speaker 2>And you had just heard the shocking news?

1:01:00.660 --> 1:01:02.620
<v Speaker 1>And I just heard the shocking news that my longtime

1:01:02.640 --> 1:01:04.860
<v Speaker 1>friend was gay.

1:01:04.880 --> 1:01:06.880
<v Speaker 3>Wow. How did the set go?

1:01:07.380 --> 1:01:11.970
<v Speaker 1>Incredible. I booked it. Oh, good for you. It went well.

1:01:13.140 --> 1:01:14.630
<v Speaker 1>But it was kind of awesome. I was sort of like,

1:01:14.650 --> 1:01:17.330
<v Speaker 1>I felt like I was in Showgirls or something. Yeah.

1:01:17.350 --> 1:01:19.230
<v Speaker 2>Speaking of Showgirls, I mean, I'm... Wait, we.

1:01:19.190 --> 1:01:19.710
<v Speaker 1>Should wrap up.

1:01:19.870 --> 1:01:22.950
<v Speaker 2>I know, we should wrap up. I want to hear

1:01:22.970 --> 1:01:25.070
<v Speaker 2>about Dita Von Teese, but we're running out of time.

1:01:25.670 --> 1:01:31.390
<v Speaker 2>Dita Von Teese, to me, I'm like... I feel like

1:01:31.610 --> 1:01:34.180
<v Speaker 2>everyone knows who she is, and I couldn't tell you

1:01:34.200 --> 1:01:35.740
<v Speaker 2>where I know her from. I just know that she

1:01:35.780 --> 1:01:39.560
<v Speaker 2>is a quintessential burlesque performer.

1:01:40.280 --> 1:01:42.850
<v Speaker 1>She, to me, well, this was when I was a

1:01:42.890 --> 1:01:46.450
<v Speaker 1>Perez Hilton reader in the year, you know, 2006. He

1:01:47.150 --> 1:01:49.030
<v Speaker 1>used to come to the shows. He was a big fan.

1:01:49.050 --> 1:01:50.730
<v Speaker 1>That's how I met him. And he would like post

1:01:50.770 --> 1:01:51.650
<v Speaker 1>about her all the time.

1:01:51.710 --> 1:01:52.310
<v Speaker 2>Oh, interesting.

1:01:52.350 --> 1:01:53.570
<v Speaker 1>That's kind of how I knew about her.

1:01:53.590 --> 1:01:55.180
<v Speaker 2>Did you enjoy working with her?

1:01:55.820 --> 1:01:59.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was insane. We went together like Reese's Pieces,

1:01:59.400 --> 1:02:02.540
<v Speaker 3>you know, like peanut butter and chocolate. Because she is

1:02:02.600 --> 1:02:06.419
<v Speaker 3>very like ornate and these fancy costumes and like, you know,

1:02:06.980 --> 1:02:10.140
<v Speaker 3>there was no acknowledgement of the audience. It was like,

1:02:10.500 --> 1:02:10.860
<v Speaker 3>look at me.

1:02:10.880 --> 1:02:12.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm beautiful. I'm perfect.

1:02:12.160 --> 1:02:15.400
<v Speaker 3>It's very old school glamor. And then I was like,

1:02:15.420 --> 1:02:18.780
<v Speaker 3>you know, the baggy pants comedian in the tuxedo, like.

1:02:20.440 --> 1:02:20.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1:02:20.840 --> 1:02:21.280
<v Speaker 2>It just worked.

1:02:21.300 --> 1:02:22.490
<v Speaker 1>Classic combo.

1:02:22.550 --> 1:02:25.530
<v Speaker 3>It just worked. And, you know, and that, I went

1:02:25.570 --> 1:02:28.350
<v Speaker 3>out cold a lot for that show too. Because some

1:02:28.370 --> 1:02:30.530
<v Speaker 3>of those, some of the burlesque crowd when we were

1:02:30.550 --> 1:02:33.650
<v Speaker 3>touring was, well, it's not rockabilly. What are those motorcycle

1:02:33.690 --> 1:02:34.150
<v Speaker 3>guys called?

1:02:34.170 --> 1:02:39.410
<v Speaker 1>I know. Is it not?

1:02:39.430 --> 1:02:40.630
<v Speaker 3>No, the cars, the car guys.

1:02:41.110 --> 1:02:42.630
<v Speaker 2>Like Harley, like greasers?

1:02:42.710 --> 1:02:47.780
<v Speaker 3>No, no, no. Who knows this? There's got to be some. No, no,

1:02:48.080 --> 1:02:50.560
<v Speaker 3>not that straight. But, you know, like the car culture,

1:02:50.580 --> 1:02:51.800
<v Speaker 3>like the slick back hair.

1:02:51.820 --> 1:02:52.360
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, yes.

1:02:52.380 --> 1:02:53.080
<v Speaker 2>Sure, sure, sure.

1:02:53.120 --> 1:02:54.620
<v Speaker 3>No, they're not greasers. It's got a name.

1:02:54.840 --> 1:02:55.740
<v Speaker 1>Is that not Rockabilly?

1:02:55.920 --> 1:02:56.540
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Rockabilly.

1:02:56.560 --> 1:02:57.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:02:57.620 --> 1:02:58.380
<v Speaker 3>I didn't say Rockabilly.

1:02:58.440 --> 1:02:58.980
<v Speaker 2>You did.

1:02:59.040 --> 1:02:59.380
<v Speaker 1>You did.

1:02:59.480 --> 1:03:00.520
<v Speaker 3>I don't even know what Rockabilly is.

1:03:00.520 --> 1:03:01.140
<v Speaker 1>Roll back the tapes.

1:03:03.430 --> 1:03:05.160
<v Speaker 3>I said Rockabilly. I'm doing great.

1:03:05.180 --> 1:03:06.390
<v Speaker 2>You definitely said Rockabilly. Yeah.

1:03:06.900 --> 1:03:10.060
<v Speaker 3>Prozac's kicking in. They just upped my dosage.

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<v Speaker 2>You know things you didn't even know were in there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, show me.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so rockabilly. Yes. She is very.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, some of those guys are MAGA.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct.

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<v Speaker 3>And they're very conservative. So it's like when I get up.

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<v Speaker 3>So it was like queer and like, yeah, rockabilly girls.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, because you need to. It's like, what level of

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<v Speaker 2>irony are you processing this with? Like the people that

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<v Speaker 2>think Dita Von Teese is campy, which is what she is,

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<v Speaker 2>I imagine, trying to be. are queer and are in

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<v Speaker 2>on the joke, but then there's just men who want

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<v Speaker 2>to see a woman get naked.

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<v Speaker 3>I like what you said there, kid. Level of irony.

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<v Speaker 3>Because sometimes I feel like it's when there's no level

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<v Speaker 3>of irony being from an audience member, I'm dead.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, exactly. That can scare me.

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<v Speaker 2>They have to understand.

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<v Speaker 1>We're kidding. I don't mean most of the things I'm

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<v Speaker 1>saying right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I don't want to fuck you guys up

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<v Speaker 3>with this whole gender stuff, but... You know, I did

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<v Speaker 3>a show and I fucking bombed. All lesbian crowd, outdoor concert.

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<v Speaker 3>Never will do outdoor concerts again.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, God, no.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, daytime is brutal. Anyway, I was like making jokes and,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the whole property was vegetarian. Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>I could have told you that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. And I was like, hey, before I get started,

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<v Speaker 3>anybody know where I can get a cheeseburger?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you can't go to the vegetarian lesbian commune

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<v Speaker 2>and start joking about cheeseburgers.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not kidding. I was booed. I was fucking booed.

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<v Speaker 3>And I said this as a reaction and it was

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<v Speaker 3>wrong and I did it anyway. And I said, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not your father. I'm not really a man. And

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<v Speaker 3>they were just like, I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, look at me.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>It can be rough.

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<v Speaker 1>That is so interesting. I'm surprised they didn't get a

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<v Speaker 1>kick out of it. Cheeseburger joke?

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<v Speaker 3>I thought it was hilarious.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't want to be. They're like, this is our

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<v Speaker 2>only safe space is this vegetarian property. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I know we got to wrap it up. But being

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<v Speaker 3>deep here, I think sometimes if you feel disenfranchised and

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<v Speaker 3>oppressed and you don't have any visibility or you're not seen,

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<v Speaker 3>it's very hard to laugh at yourself. So you're always defensive.

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<v Speaker 3>So in comedy, if the audience is defensive, forget it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's over.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>But gay guys, you're left with anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, we're fun.

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<v Speaker 3>You are a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll say.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. Let's do our final segment.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's do our final segment.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's do.

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<v Speaker 2>Our final segment. Our final segment is shout outs. So

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<v Speaker 2>we are just going to shout out something that we

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<v Speaker 2>are loving.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And we'll go first and then you can go and

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<v Speaker 2>we make them up. We think of them on the spot.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're both trying to be inspired right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, hold on. Just random things?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Anything at all.

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<v Speaker 3>Something that I like.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Something positive.

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<v Speaker 2>Something positive.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have one? You know what?

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<v Speaker 2>I'll do one that I've done before in the spirit

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<v Speaker 2>of today's guest. I want to shout out Bridget Everett.

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<v Speaker 2>who we didn't talk about too much, but she is

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<v Speaker 2>actually one of the first performers I ever saw doing

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<v Speaker 2>any kind of comedy live. At the Ritz? No, at

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<v Speaker 2>a dive bar in San Francisco. And she got on

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<v Speaker 2>top of the bar and did like a stage dive

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<v Speaker 2>to 40, 30 people. It was one of the most...

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<v Speaker 2>And then I actually went up to her after the

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<v Speaker 2>show and I said, I want to be a comedian.

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<v Speaker 2>And she was like, okay, sweetheart. And then we took

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<v Speaker 2>a photo together.

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<v Speaker 3>She's like, okay, bye.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, literally. And then it took me a couple years

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<v Speaker 2>before I started doing... Doing comedy. But she just is,

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<v Speaker 2>to me, like she unlocked something that I hadn't seen

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<v Speaker 2>before in comedy. And so the fact that she was

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<v Speaker 2>able to work with you and with Jeff Hiller and

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<v Speaker 2>to actually be on Sunday nights at HBO, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>is proof that sometimes good things can happen.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and you can't give up.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we all got on that show in our 50s.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh-huh, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, and it's like we're not your typical TV people.

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<v Speaker 2>And I remember.

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<v Speaker 3>And now Jeff, you know, let's shout out to Jeff Hiller.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, my God. Emmy winner. Emmy?

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<v Speaker 3>And he's going to be a recurring character on Widow's Bay.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>That's great.

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<v Speaker 3>Jeff Hiller.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's always been a damn star. Absolute star.

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<v Speaker 1>So funny. What's up, free klusers and perverts around the globe?

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<v Speaker 1>I want to, you know, I want to redact a

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<v Speaker 1>shout out that I did a few months ago.

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<v Speaker 3>Ed Shearing?

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<v Speaker 1>No, he's still good with me. I want to redact

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<v Speaker 1>my shout out. Kidding, of course. To the lesbian commune,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm kidding.

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<v Speaker 2>If any vegetarian lesbians are listening, these are all jokes.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to redact my shout out of having an

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<v Speaker 1>external charger for my phone. I actually figure out what

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<v Speaker 1>I needed was to get a new damn phone. And,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, sometimes I go in bursts of consumerism and commercialism.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I get in that mode, I'm like, why

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<v Speaker 1>am I not doing this all the time? Currently, I'm saying, oh, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>charge it, honey. Buy that phone. And you know what?

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<v Speaker 1>It's made my life infinitely better and I could not

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<v Speaker 1>be happier. My phone battery is not a concern of

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<v Speaker 1>mine anymore. I can put my mind on bigger issues,

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<v Speaker 1>what with everything going on with the midterms and all.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm so happy to have a real phone battery

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<v Speaker 1>and say goodbye to my external charger. XOXO, Sam.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, shout out to Apple, the corporation.

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<v Speaker 1>Shout out.

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<v Speaker 3>What phone did you get?

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever the, not the like flip one, just normal, normal.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, but not the flip one. As I said, stereotypes

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<v Speaker 3>are based on facts.

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<v Speaker 2>What's your favorite stereotype?

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<v Speaker 1>Don't answer that. He's tricking you.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a trap.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course.

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<v Speaker 2>Damn, kids. All right. Maria, whenever you're ready.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to shout out the New York Knicks.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Because.

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<v Speaker 3>They brought me the most joy that I've had this

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<v Speaker 3>year and possibly in the last decade. I watched the

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<v Speaker 3>whole playoff series and the last three games, like seeing

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<v Speaker 3>the city come together. Because, you know, I'm talking to

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of guys.

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<v Speaker 2>No, but I was I was right there with you.

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<v Speaker 2>I was a bandwagon fan. I never cared about basketball before.

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<v Speaker 2>And the joy I felt that week was crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, do you guys know like Mets and Yankees, right?

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<v Speaker 3>They don't mix.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. No.

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<v Speaker 3>So when the Yankees win the World Series, you're never

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<v Speaker 3>going to get the whole city behind you. So that's

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<v Speaker 3>what was different about this. It was everybody. And it was.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the only basketball team here?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, there's the Brooklyn Nets.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so Knicks is the only basketball team here. If

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<v Speaker 3>you guys want to hang out in straight places, that's

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<v Speaker 3>what you say, okay? You say, oh, no, just the Knicks.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the only team in New York, okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>But, you know, I love sports, obviously. You know, I

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<v Speaker 3>played basketball, clearly.

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<v Speaker 2>And badminton, I learned. Oh, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And pickleball.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, okay. Pickleball.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, shaming. What's pickleball shaming?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that a word?

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<v Speaker 2>It sure is. And I'm doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>P-shamed.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's the word.

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<v Speaker 1>I need to be P-shamed. I sit in that toilet

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<v Speaker 1>so much.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, the Knicks, I'll swing it back to Jalen Brunson.

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<v Speaker 3>But it brought the city together and it was fun.

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<v Speaker 3>And I didn't think about the dumpster fire that is

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<v Speaker 3>currently our industry that we're all in and our world. And,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, all the, it's just a ball and a

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<v Speaker 3>basket and everybody going nuts.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go.

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<v Speaker 3>Woo.

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<v Speaker 1>Well.

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<v Speaker 3>Knicks in five.

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<v Speaker 2>The book is called Showbiz, My Life as a Middle-Aged

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<v Speaker 2>Man by Murray Hill.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me see that. I haven't seen it yet. Any typos?

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<v Speaker 2>Not so far. You know, I got it yesterday. I've

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<v Speaker 2>read the first, I think, 59 pages.

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<v Speaker 3>No, there's definitely typos in there.

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<v Speaker 2>So far, no typos.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I see you stopped at who ate my cheese.

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<v Speaker 2>That's correct. I said I need to go to bed.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, thanks for doing the pod.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks for doing the pod.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>It's wet.

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<v Speaker 2>It is not.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, you know what?

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<v Speaker 2>Because there's water here.

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<v Speaker 1>We spit on it. Bye.

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<v Speaker 3>Get the book.

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<v Speaker 1>Podcast ends now. Stradio Lab is a production by Will

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<v Speaker 1>Ferrell's Big Money Players and iHeartRadio Podcasts.

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