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Speaker 1: As a league fifteen to ten touchdown Chargers.

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Speaker 2: What's up?

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Speaker 3: Guys?

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Speaker 2: Welcome into a week four edition of Chargers Weekly.

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Speaker 4: We're powered by Microsoft Surface as always, joined by Matt

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Speaker 4: Muney Smith. The first podcast of the twenty twenty three season.

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Speaker 4: After a win, Chargers get it done in Minnesota, a

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Speaker 4: game they had to have twenty eight, twenty four. Buddy,

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Speaker 4: I have like twenty things written down about that game

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Speaker 4: and pushing.

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Speaker 3: Them forward to the Raiders.

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Speaker 4: So much to get into. I want to start with

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Speaker 4: justin forty of forty seven, four hundred and five yards,

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Speaker 4: three touchdowns through his one hundredth touchdown pass in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: Save for maybe a couple of throws and maybe some decisions,

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Speaker 4: I thought it was the best game he played as

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Speaker 4: a Charger, given the circumstances, what was necessary, what was

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Speaker 4: required to get a win, to avoid going to zero

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Speaker 4: and three.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was his best game.

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Speaker 5: I don't you know, he's had really obviously, he's had

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Speaker 5: incredible games, but this one, like you said, it's, you know,

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Speaker 5: his first four hundred yard passing game. He's blitzed on

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Speaker 5: eighty percent of his dropbacks. It's Brian Flores. We know

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Speaker 5: what that looked like the last time he faced the

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Speaker 5: Dolphins with Flores, and.

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Speaker 3: This is so much different. He had much different, much different.

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Speaker 5: You know, you go through when you when I was

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Speaker 5: watching it back and I watched every one of his dropbacks.

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Speaker 5: Flores has got seven minimum sometimes eight guys on the

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Speaker 5: line of scrimmage. You know, you don't know which ones

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Speaker 5: are dropping out. So credit the offensive line, Credit Isaiah Spiller,

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Speaker 5: Joshua Kelly for picking up those blitzes. And he's not

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Speaker 5: just bringing five on so many of those drops, he's

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Speaker 5: bringing six on a handful, he's bringing seven. And Herbert

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Speaker 5: and Justin was just calm. That's That's the one thing

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Speaker 5: that I really took away is those first two weeks

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Speaker 5: when he experienced pressure, it seemed like he was just Okay,

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Speaker 5: get rid of the ball, let's get to the next play.

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Speaker 5: It's not gonna happen here. Pressure came. We didn't pick

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Speaker 5: it up. I got to in this game. He just

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Speaker 5: held the ball and he's like, I'll figure it out.

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Speaker 5: I'll find a lane. And he moved in the pocket,

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Speaker 5: you know, very the Tom Brady esque. Five feet this way,

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Speaker 5: Now I can deliver, got rid of the ball quickly,

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Speaker 5: had a hot you know, he was just spot on

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Speaker 5: his hot reads and you know he was calling out

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Speaker 5: Who's going to be the guy that's wide open and

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Speaker 5: ready for a pass in under two seconds. And then

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Speaker 5: there were just some ridiculous throws in there as well.

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Speaker 5: It's not you know, it's forty seven attempts for forty

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Speaker 5: completions in four hundred five yards. But there's some big

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Speaker 5: old chunk plays in there, you know. And the left

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Speaker 5: sideline throw to Joshua Palmer was incredible. The first touchdown

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Speaker 5: to Donald parum that little side arm that he I mean,

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Speaker 5: and that thing is just a bang bang play. It's

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Speaker 5: ball is snapped, pressure is in his face and he

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Speaker 5: just almost underhands that thing to Parum for that first touchdown.

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Speaker 5: The fourth down to Parum Man talk about hands. First

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Speaker 5: of all, param snatched that first touchdown down by his knees.

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Speaker 5: The guy six foot nine second touchdown is a laser

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Speaker 5: at his face that probably would have got stuck in

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Speaker 5: ends up snatching that. But there so those the one

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Speaker 5: And Daniel's just so good at this stuff. You know,

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Speaker 5: it's seeing things, you know in the moment they happen.

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Speaker 5: And he said, he's like, man, that is that is

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Speaker 5: one of the great that's going in the archives. Is

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Speaker 5: one of the great justin Herbert throws. And when you

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Speaker 5: go back and watch it, it's a third. It's a

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Speaker 5: third and seventeen I think. And this is when they're

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Speaker 5: down twenty four to twenty one and it's a third

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Speaker 5: to his left under pressure, and man, he throws that

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Speaker 5: right from outside the numbers left to outside the hash

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Speaker 5: right to Keenan Allen. You know, I don't know what

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Speaker 5: the total yardage was on the play. I don't, I don't.

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Speaker 5: I don't have the play by play in front of me,

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Speaker 5: but air yards. That's probably a thirty five yard throw

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Speaker 5: and it got there and what felt like a quarter

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Speaker 2: How many quarterbacks do you think in the NFL can

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen one hand.

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Speaker 5: I mean I though probably those probably those two. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I think there's three guys in the NFL that can

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Speaker 3: And it's and.

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Speaker 5: It's those two and and Justin and I think it's

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Speaker 5: also in terms of Alan, you know, his accuracy gets

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Speaker 5: a little wobbly there. This thing is between the numbers,

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Speaker 5: you know, rolling to your left, throwing to your right,

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Speaker 5: under pressure, thirty five air yards and it gets there

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Speaker 5: like that, like it's it was. I almost want to

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Speaker 5: just pull it up. And I know people can't see,

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Speaker 5: and I'm not doing you guys any favors, but I

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Speaker 4: It's all over. It's all over Twitter, guys. Just is

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Speaker 4: it justin Herbert Third and seventeen.

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Speaker 2: You'll find it. You'll find it.

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Speaker 4: He's going, he's rolling left, He's thrown across his body

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Speaker 4: to Keenan, I think in the middle of the field.

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Speaker 2: And I think it was a first down. I thought

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Speaker 2: he picked up the first Oh yeah.

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Speaker 3: No, so here it is.

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Speaker 5: It's third and seventeen. I'm looking at it now, and

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Speaker 5: they snap the ball at the exactly at the fifty

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Speaker 5: just before the fifties. So from the Charger forty nine left,

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Speaker 5: Hash snaps the ball. He's rolling to his left. He's

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Speaker 5: outside the numbers, so he is outside the numbers left side,

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Speaker 5: behind the forty. He lets this thing go at the

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Speaker 5: thirty nine and Keenan is he's open. He's found the

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Speaker 5: and they are closing in on that completion and he

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Speaker 5: catches it at the thirty at the I'll call it

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Speaker 5: the thirty one yard line, so you're talking about twenty

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Speaker 5: nine yards of distance, actually thirty I'll go thirty yards

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Speaker 5: of distance, and then you go outside of the numbers

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Speaker 5: to the right. Hash that's another ten yards, maybe seven

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Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, crazy, crazy, and the guy on the

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Speaker 4: receiving end of it money. First of all, Justin Herbert

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Speaker 4: Chargers fans, I think knew early and often when Brian Flores.

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Speaker 2: Was blitzing him the way he was, and Justin was.

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Speaker 4: Just he was on a heater in the middle of

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Speaker 4: the game for I don't know how many straight completions

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Speaker 4: I don't remember, but you know, to go forty to

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Speaker 2: Obviously he had a stretch where he was.

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Speaker 3: Just consistraining them together.

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Speaker 2: Since Man, it was crazy.

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Speaker 4: I think Chargers fans realized early in that game Justin

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Speaker 2: Necessarily, you're only going to be in a game with him.

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Speaker 4: But the guy on the receiving end Money twenty thirteen,

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Speaker 4: the longest tenured Charger. We talked about it all training camp,

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Speaker 4: how he was having the best training camp I think

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Speaker 4: I've seen him have.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he was.

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Speaker 4: He was incredible in the summer, put together the best

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Speaker 4: performance we've seen from a Chargers receiver. Eighteen catches, two

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Speaker 2: Keenan.

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Speaker 4: Allen Man, I don't know what you can say. He

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Speaker 4: outplayed Justin Jefferson on that football field. We remember the

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Speaker 4: couple of years ago. Keenan returned the favor and then

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Speaker 4: some those two. Man, that was the best game Keenan

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Speaker 4: has ever played best game, Justin's ever played best game,

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Speaker 4: Keenan's ever played.

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Speaker 5: I'm sure in in Minnesota they're, you know, asking a

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Speaker 5: lot of the same questions we were asking after week one,

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Speaker 5: you know, with Tyreek Hill, like you can't, you can't

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Speaker 5: do better than that, you can't. And that was just

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Speaker 5: Brian Flores approach. And it's very you know, what worked

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Speaker 5: blitzing relentlessly, and there were single coverage on Keenan and

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Speaker 5: we know he's you know, he's in the conversation. It's

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Speaker 5: the best route runner in the league. And he just

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Speaker 5: he made a fool of Byron Murphy. And and I

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Speaker 5: mean the idea that the fact that he decided to

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Speaker 5: think Keenan already piled up like fourteen catches for one

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Speaker 3: What you taught?

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Speaker 5: What are you barking about? It's the and just Flores

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Speaker 5: just kept with it. He's like, yeah, go on back

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Speaker 5: just ate him alive. And you know, one thing I

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Speaker 5: do want to say about the touchdown pass, and we've

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Speaker 5: and we kind of felt it in the moment too.

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Speaker 5: But you think about all those blitzes and all those screens,

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Speaker 5: the tunnel screens, the quick throws into the flat, you know,

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Speaker 5: Josh Palmer going into that touchdown pass, the double pass

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Speaker 5: to Mike Williams. Keenan had caught a couple of those,

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Speaker 5: have even had four of those, just quick screens, tunnel screens,

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Speaker 5: blockers in front. Let's go get five six yards. You're

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Speaker 5: blitzing all good. We got hat on hat. Keenan can

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Speaker 5: make it hat. You know, did it with Josh Palmer,

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Speaker 5: Joshua Kelly, had it with Gerald Everett. And then all

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Speaker 5: got you. Here comes another one. What happens. Safety's like, crap,

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Speaker 5: here's another screen. I got to go up and support

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Speaker 5: and tackle, and there goes Mike Williams and you just

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Speaker 5: knew that Kellen Moore was setting them up for it

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Speaker 5: the whole game, and he took is shot. Keenan delivered,

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Speaker 5: and that's There's a lot that goes into that. You know,

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Speaker 5: one is is Herbert making all those completions. You know,

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Speaker 5: the receivers getting all that yak on those screens and

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Speaker 5: fighting for yards, the receivers and the tight ends on

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Speaker 5: the outside blocking to allow those plays to be successful.

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Speaker 5: That are completions behind the line of scrimmage. And then

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Speaker 5: obviously Keenan and Mike connecting. Keenan with a perfect pass

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Speaker 5: to Mike to get the touchdown. But man, it was

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Speaker 5: a it was a thing of beauty, and it was

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Speaker 5: just an entire team effort to put that thing together

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Speaker 5: and it was it was pretty cool to see it

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Keenan having an all Pro season through the first

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Speaker 4: three weeks. We'll get into the Mike Williams injury obviously

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Speaker 5: But it was inside, you know, one yard. It was

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Speaker 5: that the ball was, you know, on the opposite if

434
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Speaker 5: I'm looking at it and they're moving left to right,

435
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,680
Speaker 5: the ball was on the right of the twenty four

436
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 5: yard hash mark, you know, the twenty four yard line

437
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,359
Speaker 5: hash mark. They had to gain the twenty five exactly.

438
00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,879
Speaker 5: It was two thirds of a yard. It's two feet.

439
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,960
Speaker 5: And I said, I've watched a thirty six yard touchdown

440
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,640
Speaker 5: pass on fourth and sixth. I watched a fifty three

441
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,840
Speaker 5: yard touchdown pass because JT took a terrible angle on

442
00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:01,120
Speaker 5: Justin Jefferson. I've watched seven explosive plays already out here.

443
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,359
Speaker 5: It's a team that's given up the most explosives in

444
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 5: the NFL. I'm not interested in giving them eighty yards

445
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:10,119
Speaker 5: of grass. I want to get the two feet. So

446
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 5: I was all for it. Yeah, I was not happy

447
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:18,119
Speaker 5: with the plague. That's that's you know, and that was

448
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,960
Speaker 5: my issue. And I think, you know, and that's that's

449
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,800
Speaker 5: what the analytics committee is. That's what the analytics crew

450
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 5: is saying, Like love the call, and that's what I

451
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 5: said in the moment. I was like, man, I love

452
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,719
Speaker 5: the call, I just hate the play. And Kellen and

453
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,919
Speaker 5: Brandon are taking a lot of incoming for that. But

454
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Speaker 5: and they'll never say it, and I don't even know it.

455
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:40,800
Speaker 5: I'm just assuming that's a Justin decision. You know, for

456
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,240
Speaker 5: whatever reason, what he saw up front he did not

457
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Speaker 5: like for a quarterback sneak. It just he didn't, you know,

458
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 5: he just didn't.

459
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Speaker 3: I don't know.

460
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Speaker 5: Maybe he didn't think they would get it based on

461
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,160
Speaker 5: what their alignment was. But that's up to Justin. He's

462
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,480
Speaker 5: got three you know, he's got three plays.

463
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 3: He can run.

464
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,880
Speaker 5: He can run the sneak. He can hand to Josh

465
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Speaker 5: Kelly on the full back, or he can pitch to Darius.

466
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 5: A week ago against Tennessee, he pitched the Darius. They

467
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 5: got twelve yards out of it on a fourth and two.

468
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 5: You know, this week he decides to hand to Josh Kelly.

469
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,119
Speaker 5: Now instead of being two feet, it's four yards that

470
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:14,680
Speaker 5: you got to pick up because he handed it to

471
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 5: him at the twenty one yard line. If that's Lorenzo O'Neil, fine,

472
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:25,679
Speaker 5: I still don't like it, but you have to sneak

473
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 5: that you're twenty five of twenty seven on third or

474
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 5: fourth and one or less than one. I would rather

475
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 5: have the six foot six, two hundred and fifty pound

476
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:39,400
Speaker 5: guy two feet away with the two hundred and five

477
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:43,920
Speaker 5: pound running back pushing behind him, than the two hundred

478
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 5: and five pound second string running back playing full back

479
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,400
Speaker 5: running a full back dive. I know it was successful

480
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 5: earlier in the year. I think it was against Miami

481
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,399
Speaker 5: that they ran it that he ended up getting like

482
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Speaker 5: ten yards off of it, Josh did.

483
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Speaker 3: But this is the game. Yeah, you know.

484
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Speaker 5: To me, it's like, you could this play will win

485
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 5: the game. They're out of timeouts. You get two feet,

486
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,920
Speaker 5: the game is over. You are not zero and three.

487
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:13,360
Speaker 5: Your your season is still alive. So that's just kind

488
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 5: of where I I came out on it.

489
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Speaker 4: There's still ay, there's still one and two. It worked

490
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,159
Speaker 4: out in the end, Kenneth Murray.

491
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Speaker 5: But I think moving forward, Chris, like, that's it is.

492
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Speaker 5: I know, I'm relentless with it. I say it every

493
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 5: week to me. They they've got to figure it out.

494
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 5: Like I don't know what's going on in practice or

495
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:41,159
Speaker 5: what's they need that play. The play is unstoppable, you know,

496
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 5: and and I think it's a you know, Petros brought

497
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Speaker 5: this up on the show yesterday and it was a

498
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 5: great point.

499
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Speaker 3: You know.

500
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Speaker 5: I mentioned Jalen Hurts and how effective he is. I

501
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 5: was like, and he's thirty pounds lighter than than Herbert,

502
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 5: you know, and and he and he said, he's a

503
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Speaker 5: running back. And he's like, Matt, you're talking about someone

504
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 5: who's a running back, like Jalen Hurts was a dual

505
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 5: threat quarterback who was probably more comfortable running than throwing.

506
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 5: He's like, so he knows, like he's that's a situation

507
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,880
Speaker 5: that he's comfortable in. You know, there is a mentality

508
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 5: to it. And then you know, my pushback to that was, well,

509
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:21,160
Speaker 5: the greatest player in the history of football was the

510
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:25,879
Speaker 5: best at it in Tom Brady. Nobody better he So

511
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Speaker 5: if who was six foot six, who is not as

512
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:34,439
Speaker 5: sturdy as Trustin Robert, not a running back, there was

513
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 5: no there's there's been nobody that's been better at it

514
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 5: than Tom Brady.

515
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Speaker 3: So like, I would.

516
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Speaker 5: Assume that the justice of the stature that he can

517
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 5: reach out to Tom and just say, hey, man, you're

518
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 5: a tall drink of water. I know, it's probably not

519
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,120
Speaker 5: fun getting bent backwards when you're that tall and you're

520
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 5: trying to get low. It's not easy. But what, like,

521
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 5: what can you pass along to me? Like, what is

522
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 5: it that I need to know so I am comfortable

523
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 5: in those situations. I'm not making it out like it's easy.

524
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 5: You talk to people and they tell you, man, it's

525
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,959
Speaker 5: nasty in there. It is rough. It is it is

526
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 5: not clean sled, and it's so I get it. All

527
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 5: I'm saying is I'd like to see them figure it

528
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 5: out in the bye week, say hey, we need this,

529
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 5: like this is something that we've got to have, because

530
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 5: that was a got to have it, that was a

531
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 5: got to have play, and they did not run the

532
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Speaker 5: They did not run the play with the highest percentage

533
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 5: of possible success, and that needs to be addressed. You know,

534
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 5: when you're talking about ninety three percent for justin on

535
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,400
Speaker 5: third or fourth and one or less than one ninety

536
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 5: three percent, we gotta run that play. So to me,

537
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 5: that's something that'll be work done. You know, I'm assuming

538
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 5: this week and also in the bye week.

539
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:49,159
Speaker 2: It's simple for me.

540
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 4: The ball should not be out of ten's hands in

541
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Speaker 4: those situations, not at all.

542
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 2: He's either throwing the football. He's forty or forty seven

543
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 2: in the game.

544
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Speaker 4: All Right, I realized, if if you have a couple

545
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,199
Speaker 4: of feet to go, probably not the best idea to

546
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 4: throw the football. But the quarterback sneak has got to

547
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,199
Speaker 4: be in play. I don't take the ball out of

548
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 4: Ten's hands. I remember Week eighteen, two years ago, money,

549
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 4: I think it was a third quarter. They went for

550
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 4: it on fourth and one. Austin Eckler up the middle,

551
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 4: did not get it. Vegas kick the field goal. And

552
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 4: you know those are those are I think plays that

553
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 4: you have to learn from and say, you know what,

554
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 4: we need a better solution. We have a top five

555
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 4: quarterback in the NFL. Uh ten should not be handled

556
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 4: the ball off to anybody on fourth and whatever.

557
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 3: It is.

558
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:38,919
Speaker 5: So and that's and you know what Chris like for me?

559
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 5: What I then do if I'm Kellen Moore, is you

560
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 5: call the sneak. It's not a three way play, it's

561
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 5: I formation, and it's hey, you want to go for it.

562
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,439
Speaker 5: Here's the play. You do not audible out of it,

563
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 5: you do not check out of it. This is the play.

564
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 5: This is what we're doing. Tell the offensive line it's

565
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 5: on you guys. You could you will determine whether or

566
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 5: not we win this game. You can go win the

567
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 5: game right now for us, it is in your hands.

568
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 5: Go get it. If you're not comfortable and you don't

569
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 5: think you guys are getting the push that you need

570
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 5: against this front, tell me right now, and I'm up

571
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 5: on it away. But that's what we're doing. I think

572
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,919
Speaker 5: that's just something that has to be ingrained into this team.

573
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 5: And it's an identity thing, you know, I think it.

574
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,199
Speaker 5: You know, when I talked to Lorenzo and I you know,

575
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 5: tonight they'll they'll do the thing on Balley's Sports West.

576
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 5: You know, he brought it out. He's like, look, I

577
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 5: was six for six. He's like, I know what my

578
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 5: stats are. He goes, because that's you know, that's what

579
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 5: that play is. That play is all about want. It

580
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:41,719
Speaker 5: is all about commitment, it is. And you know, he's like,

581
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 5: that's just that's what that play is. That is not

582
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 5: you're out scheming them. It's not oh we're gonna we're

583
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 5: gonna move, Oh we're gonna hike it and we're gonna

584
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 5: dive into this hole. He's like, no, he goes, that

585
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 5: is a play where you know, this ain't gonna be fun,

586
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 5: but I'm gonna go get it. And you know, you

587
00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 5: just keep your legs moving and you go get it

588
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 5: and I'll figure it out, you know, like you said, Hey,

589
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 5: it worked out. It worked out, and I to answer

590
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 5: your question, I was fine with it. I actually liked it.

591
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 5: I loved the call. I was like, perfect, go win it.

592
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 5: And that's I know I'm talking a lot about it here,

593
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 5: but because I think a lot of people are still

594
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 5: talking about this play. Like to me in his first season,

595
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 5: it's what we loved about Brandon Staley.

596
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 3: It's like, this is great. Be aggressive.

597
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 5: You've got Justin Herbert, you got Keenan Allen, Mike Williams,

598
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 5: Austin Eckler. That's better than what they probably have on

599
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 5: the other side of the football.

600
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 3: So go take it.

601
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 5: You've got the advantage. And that's one of the things

602
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 5: he said when you know, when it was working, when

603
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 5: he was nine for nine on fourth down and everybody's

604
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 5: selling celebrating Brandon Staley as this you know, new age

605
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 5: thinker as a head coach. We love this guy, and

606
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 5: and that did him no favors because all the traditional

607
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 5: folks were like, no, we don't love this guy. This

608
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 5: isn't right. We don't like what he's doing. It's different,

609
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 5: and we're not comfortable with different, and change isn't good.

610
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 5: And it's going to get him. It's gonna bite him eventually.

611
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 5: And they were rooting for him to fail. But to me,

612
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 5: that's his identity. It's something that he believes in. He

613
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 5: said it in the first eight games of that season,

614
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 5: and I wish he hadn't got away from it because

615
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 5: of all the incoming he took. You know, I hope

616
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 5: he presses forward because he went Look, he went forward

617
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 5: on fourth down instead of kicking the field goal to

618
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 5: Donald Parum and got a touchdown.

619
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, got an extra four points out of it.

620
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 2: But the week before, so if you're all right, but

621
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 2: the week.

622
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 4: Before punting it on fourth down in your own hated it,

623
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 4: you right, So it's it's like.

624
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 5: Hated it from the Tennessee forty one. It's like, don't

625
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 5: be punting that. It's fourth and two. You got justin Herbert,

626
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 5: go get it. Yeah, one hundred percent. And that's the

627
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 5: other thing too, Chris. Before we move on from this game,

628
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 5: the one play I did not lie, though I did

629
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 5: not like him not accepting the holding call on third

630
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 5: and six would have made it third and sixteen, would

631
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 5: have put them all the way back at the forty

632
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 5: six yard line. Instead, they're at the thirty six yard line,

633
00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 5: which Greg Joseph's got a sixty one yarder on his

634
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 5: He could have kicked the field goal, but they end

635
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 5: up going forward. It's the kJ Osbourne thirty six yard touchdown.

636
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 5: In the moment as the game's being played, DJ and

637
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 5: I are looking at each other. I'm like, why is

638
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 5: he not accepting this penalty? Push him back to the

639
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 5: forty six's That was a call I disagreed with. His

640
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 5: reasoning for people that didn't see it was he didn't

641
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 5: want to give Justin Jefferson two plays. He was hoping

642
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 5: they could defend him in one and get a turnover.

643
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 5: Undowns He's like, I figured out I gave him third

644
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 5: and sixteen. They're on the plus side of the field.

645
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 5: They're probably going to go forward on fourth down anyway.

646
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 5: Why not just give them one crack at it instead

647
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Speaker 5: of two? And my answer, so now I'm paying ponging it.

648
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Speaker 5: My answer to that is because they're probably not going

649
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Speaker 5: to go forward if it's fourth and twelve. They're not

650
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 5: going to go forward. If it's fourth and sixteen, They're

651
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Speaker 5: not going to go forward if it's fourth and nine.

652
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 5: You know, fourth and six. Yeah, that's you got a

653
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 5: lot of options in there.

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Speaker 4: So anyway, well, you brought up a good point too

655
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Speaker 4: about the amount of grass that Kirk would have if

656
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 4: they did punt and keeping my Darwin James was not

657
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,959
Speaker 4: that football game. On the other side, we're gonna get

658
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 4: to all the injuries. The list is long on a Wednesday.

659
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Speaker 4: I know it's going to change.

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Speaker 2: As we get through the rest of the week, but

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Speaker 2: let's take a quick break. We'll talk about the Raiders.

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678
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Speaker 4: come to town on Sunday. Opportunity for the Chargers to even

679
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 4: up their record before the bye week and kind of

680
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 4: hit the reset button as they get into a couple

681
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Speaker 4: of tough games coming out of the by against Dallas

682
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 4: and Kansas City. This Raiders team has not been very good.

683
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 4: They have not forced a turnover through three weeks.

684
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 2: They have given up.

685
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 4: The ball seven times minus seven turnover differential. Justin Herbert,

686
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Speaker 4: I think the only quarterback in football who has not

687
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 4: turned the football over through the first three weeks. I

688
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 4: think that that's a nice starting point against a hated

689
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 4: rival that you absolutely have to beat. You can't go

690
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Speaker 4: one in three.

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Speaker 5: No, and look, we brought this up on an earlier

692
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Speaker 5: podcast about Jimmy Garoppolo, and Jimmy was great with the

693
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Speaker 5: greatest play caller in the NFL. Jimmy was great with

694
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Speaker 5: a defense that had the best front in the NFL

695
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 5: and would stake him to Leeds. Jimmy was great with

696
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 5: a guy that had incredible run design, that had receivers

697
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Speaker 5: that were all about run after catch and physical and

698
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 5: George Kittle and Deebo Samuel and Brandon Ayuk and then

699
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 5: Christian McCaffrey. But even before that, Raheem most are all

700
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Speaker 5: like Jimmy was great in that situation. Well, now Jimmy

701
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 5: comes to a team with a below average offensive line

702
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,919
Speaker 5: with Josh Jacobs who right now is averaging two point

703
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 5: four yards per carry and just cannot get it going,

704
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 5: has zero tds. This was your rushing leader last year.

705
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 5: DeVante Adams is pissed. Darren Waller is gone, Like you're

706
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Speaker 5: now asking Jimmy Garoppolo to play, like Justin Herbert, like, Hey,

707
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Speaker 5: we're gonna put the team on your back and you're

708
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Speaker 5: gonna carry us. And that I'm looking at it right now.

709
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Speaker 5: You know what that looks like. Five touchdowns, six interceptions,

710
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Speaker 5: That's what that looks like. So in less than two

711
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Speaker 5: hundred and fifty yard about two hundred and twenty yards

712
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Speaker 5: per game. So that's and I don't even know if

713
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Speaker 5: he's gonna play. You know, he didn't he did not

714
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Speaker 5: practice yesterday, have not. You know, there's no injury report

715
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Speaker 5: yet as we're as we're recording this.

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Speaker 3: So Daniel, whether or not.

717
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Speaker 4: Daniels made it seem to think that he would be okay.

718
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 4: I think Jeremy Feller ESPN thinks that that he'll be okay.

719
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Speaker 4: But the Chargers preparing for all three quarterbacks. For you, yes,

720
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Speaker 4: Ryan Hohr is the backup. But I think Raider Nation

721
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 4: was to see aide O'Connell.

722
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Speaker 5: If they want O'Connell in the worst way, they want

723
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Speaker 5: him in the worst way, to which I would say, look,

724
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Speaker 5: you know me, I love Purdue players, huge fan of

725
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 5: Purdue players. But I would say, you know, how many

726
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 5: quarterbacks have looked great in the preseason. Zach Wilson looked

727
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Speaker 5: great in the preseason, you know, like that's it's the preseason.

728
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Speaker 3: But it just goes to show.

729
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Speaker 5: You how they are not on board with the you know, Garoppolo,

730
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Speaker 5: the Jacobe Myers instead of Darren Waller, like all of

731
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Speaker 5: these these things. It's a problem. Like it's a big

732
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 5: problem in Las Vegas right now. The fact that Josh

733
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Speaker 5: McDaniels is trying to recreate what he had in New England.

734
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Speaker 5: They draft Hyree Wilson. He's the worst pass rusher in

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Speaker 5: the NFL right now. I mean they take him with

736
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Speaker 5: a top ten pick. He's got what did we just

737
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Speaker 5: say about Tully had.

738
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Speaker 3: What nine pressures or ten pressures in the.

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Speaker 5: Last game I think it was last week. Yeah, nine

740
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Speaker 5: pressures against the Vikings. Wilson's got won this year and

741
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 5: he's rushing opposite Max Crosby. Think about the resources you

742
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Speaker 5: have to devote to Max Crosby, the best pass rusher

743
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Speaker 5: in the NFL. He's opposite him. He's got one pressure.

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Speaker 2: I think it at some point, like a zero percent

745
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Speaker 2: pass rush.

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Speaker 3: Win Race benched him last week.

747
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 4: He was sick last week and played like fifteen snaps.

748
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,720
Speaker 4: So you'll probably see a little bit more of him

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Speaker 4: this upcoming week.

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Speaker 3: But they don't.

751
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 4: They can't generate a turnover, and you know, sometimes you

752
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 4: think that the script's going to be flipped. You're like,

753
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Speaker 4: all right, you know what, Minnesota's going to take care.

754
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Speaker 2: Of the football.

755
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 4: They've been off for ten days, concerted effort, take care

756
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Speaker 4: of the football.

757
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Speaker 2: You know what. Kirk gave it up at the end,

758
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 2: turnover right off the top.

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Speaker 4: Should have had a third one that although he force

760
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Speaker 4: from Madison, So sometimes that turnover luck is just you are.

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Speaker 3: What you are.

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Speaker 4: And right now the Raiders are mistake prone and they

763
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Speaker 4: can't take the football away. That gives you a built

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Speaker 4: advantage right off the top. Now, money, I need to

765
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Speaker 4: read off this injury list, and keep in mind we're

766
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Speaker 4: taping this Thursday morning. This is gonna change. But you

767
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 4: know Bosa d n P. He hasn't practiced on Wednesdays

768
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Speaker 4: the last couple of weeks. Eckler limited. I would be

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Speaker 4: surprised that.

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Speaker 3: That's good news there. Limited is good news.

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Speaker 2: It's good news.

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Speaker 4: And Eckler said himself, he said, the bye week has

773
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Speaker 4: no bearing on whether or not I play Sunday.

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Speaker 2: If I'm one hundred percent, I'm one hundred percent. If

775
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Speaker 2: I'm not, I'm not.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 4: Gerald Everett d m P Illness, Alohi Gilman d n P,

778
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Speaker 4: heel Derwin James uh this could be concerning because of

779
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Speaker 4: the rap that we saw on his hamstring during the game.

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Speaker 4: Hamstrings dmp Kendricks hamstring limited. That's good news. Corey Linsley

781
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Speaker 4: illness dmp Khalil Mack rest Uh So he's been getting

782
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Speaker 4: that rest growing for Kenneth Murray and then uh Rashaun

783
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Speaker 4: Slater ankle limited. The two players that you cannot let

784
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Speaker 4: beat you on Sunday is one Davonte Adams and two

785
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Speaker 4: Josh Jacobs. Now Minnesota entered Week three with the worst

786
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Speaker 4: rushing attack in football. Didn't have a ten yard rush

787
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Speaker 4: all season. They had multiple against the Chargers in that game.

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Speaker 4: Josh Jacobs, you set a money two point four yards

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Speaker 4: of rush. I think he had a minus zero point

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Speaker 4: two in one game. It may have been a Week

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Speaker 4: two against the Bills.

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Speaker 3: He's first week. I think, right, was the first week

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Speaker 3: or was it?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

795
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Speaker 5: No, you're right it was against the Bills were had

796
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Speaker 5: negative two yards rushing.

797
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Speaker 4: Yeah, megas, whatever it is, two point four yards of

798
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 4: rush clearly needed training camp. You don't want Josh Jacobs

799
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Speaker 4: to get going against you, so it can only go

800
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Speaker 4: up for him. Davonta Adams. What scares me about that?

801
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Speaker 4: If there's no Derwin James. You talk about the angles

802
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 4: that safeties take. With DeVonta Adams, he can get you

803
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,359
Speaker 4: going sideways. I don't care who if you or me're

804
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 4: throwing him the football, he'll probably get one.

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Speaker 2: Hundred and sixty.

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Speaker 3: So if I were thrown him the football, it would

807
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 3: never make it to him hit the grass.

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Speaker 2: You could do one of those those to his shovels

809
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Speaker 2: to him, though I.

810
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Speaker 3: Let him do his work.

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Speaker 5: He better be five feet he better be within five

812
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Speaker 5: feet of me. If I'm going to complete a pass film,

813
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Speaker 5: that's for sure, because as soon as I get that snap,

814
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Speaker 5: I am throwing away. I want nothing to do with

815
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Speaker 5: a pass rush.

816
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Speaker 4: But buddy, the second, I don't care who's throwing him

817
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Speaker 4: the football. The secondary right now, in flux with J. C.

818
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 4: Jackson's situation, both are starting safety's stemp's on Wednesday and

819
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 4: giving a big plays throughout the first three weeks. That's

820
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 4: the one thing that gives me a little worried this

821
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:43,720
Speaker 4: Chacobe Myers DeVante Adams tandem regardless of who's throwing the football.

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Speaker 5: So I would say, you know, just I'm not even

823
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Speaker 5: playing Devil's advocate. Like what I would say is the

824
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Speaker 5: most important name on that list is Rashaun Slater as

825
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Speaker 5: long as you can have because you know, if the defense,

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Speaker 5: I am accepting that the defense is probably not you know,

827
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Speaker 5: I think the ceiling for this defense as we've watched

828
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Speaker 5: thus far as probably mid pack like that would be huge.

829
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Speaker 5: If they can get to the middle of the pack.

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Speaker 5: I think the Chargers can win a lot of games.

831
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Speaker 5: I don't have any designs, and I don't say it

832
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 5: to be snarky or me and I just think what

833
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 5: we've seen thus far shows there are some limitations with

834
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Speaker 5: this defense in the secondary. Injuries are not helping them.

835
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Speaker 3: The J. C.

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Speaker 5: Jackson thing is a huge blow. So if they can

837
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Speaker 5: just get to average, this offense can score thirty points.

838
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Speaker 5: They can score you know, we've seen kind of the

839
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Speaker 5: way this thing is played out. They're averaging thirty points

840
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 5: a game. They can score thirty points a game. I

841
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 5: don't think the Raiders can keep up with that offensively,

842
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 5: I don't think they have the ability to put up

843
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 5: those kind of numbers. Like now, Mike Williams is down.

844
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Speaker 5: That's a huge hit. I mean a monster hit for

845
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Speaker 5: this team. He attracts so much attention because of the

846
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 5: damage he can do downfield with those fifty to fifty balls.

847
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 5: It's really hard to put him one on one and

848
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 5: not have some safety help because he's going to crush

849
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,720
Speaker 5: in those balls push downfield. That's gone, which means Keenan's

850
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 5: not Keenan is going to get a lot more attention,

851
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 5: a lot more. I think Josh Palmer can excel. I

852
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 5: believe he can. He can be a eighty two one

853
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 5: hundred yard receiving yards per game player. I really believe

854
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 5: that he is incredibly He is wildly underrated. So I

855
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 5: think Slater, being healthy, you can leave him on an island.

856
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 5: Max wants to rush him. I'm totally fine with that

857
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 5: battle Slater versus Max Crosby the other side, Tray, you

858
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 5: can give him all the help you want. You know,

859
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 5: put your back over there to help him, put your

860
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 5: tight end over there to help him, because we're not

861
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 5: concerned about anybody else except for that one guy. And

862
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 5: as long as you can neutralize him, you can put

863
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 5: points on the board.

864
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 3: I think.

865
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 5: So that's sort of the I think DeVante's going to

866
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 5: have a good game. He always has a good game

867
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 5: against the Chargers. You know, he pretty much always has

868
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 5: a good game against anybody. He's averaging one hundred and

869
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 5: ten yards per game and a touchdowne hundred and ten

870
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 5: and a tug per game is what he's averaging. He's

871
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 5: probably going to get that. I think the situation with

872
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 5: you know, the rush attack last week, and the vikings

873
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 5: is it's what they gave them. You know, those safeties

874
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 5: were twenty yards off the line of scrimmage. They were

875
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,240
Speaker 5: playing in a two high shell almost the entire game,

876
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 5: so they were willing to give up the rush yards

877
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 5: to try to put a top on it to prevent

878
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 5: those explosive plays.

879
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 3: Didn't really work.

880
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 5: They still got quite a few of them, but it

881
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 5: did work enough where they're like, that's fine, you want

882
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 5: to rush. That first drive is a perfect example. We're

883
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 5: gonna make you methodically make your way downfield and here

884
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 5: comes a lowie Gilman ripping the ball out of the

885
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 5: hands of t J. Hawkinson for a turnover. You know,

886
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 5: so like that's the sort of thing I think that

887
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 5: led to those rushing yards being higher than they had

888
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 5: been at all in previous games. I wouldn't be surprised

889
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 5: if it's the opposite this week. If it's you are

890
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 5: you are not going to get Josh Jacobs going. We're

891
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 5: going to commit resources to the line of scrimmage and

892
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 5: we're going to force Jimmy to beat us with a

893
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 5: pass because we think we can get home by the

894
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:10,760
Speaker 5: time he's ready.

895
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 3: To get rid of it.

896
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 5: So smart. Yeah, that's that's kind of the way I

897
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 5: see this thing going.

898
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 4: The offense is going to change. Let's just say, for

899
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:24,479
Speaker 4: the sake of this conversation here, Austin doesn't play. Uh no, Mike,

900
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 4: No Austin. This is a huge spot for Quinton and

901
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 4: josh And josh obviously had that touchdown. I think it

902
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:33,879
Speaker 4: was the one maybe the one mistake that Justin made

903
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 4: that that ball shouldn't have been intercepted. But we've seen

904
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 4: Joshua last week last year when Mike and Keenan were

905
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 4: out for big stretches. I remember Atlanta vividly and he

906
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 4: was such an integral part of the reason they won

907
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 4: that game. He has been in a spot where he

908
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 4: has been relied upon to be the wide receiver one,

909
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 4: wide receiver two. So this is nothing new to him.

910
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 4: For Quinton, though, this is a big spot. What do

911
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 4: you think we're going to see from him? And how

912
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 4: do you think the offense changes? Knowing that you may

913
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 4: not have Austin and then you're down big.

914
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 5: Mike, He's going to get a lot of snaps and

915
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 5: you know time, it's time for him to grow up.

916
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 5: In a hurry, you know, they were they were slow

917
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 5: playing it. They were talking about you know, this is

918
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 5: coach Daley had said it to us, and you know,

919
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 5: we talked about it last week. So I asked him

920
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 5: before the game, why why isn't quitting out there more?

921
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 3: You know, and and he.

922
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 5: Was, I don't want to say defensive, but he just said,

923
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 5: look at the wide receiver room. You know, we've got

924
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 5: three Pro Bowl level receivers, and you know that's we're

925
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 5: not putting four receivers out there. So it's he's in

926
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 5: a rotational situation. Well that's that's no longer the case.

927
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 5: I'm trying to find the trying to find the offensive

928
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 5: alignment because they're in eleven almost all the time.

929
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 3: Like they are.

930
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 5: They basically Kellen Moore wants to line eleven, meaning one

931
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 5: running back, one tight end, which means there's three receivers

932
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 5: out there for people that don't.

933
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 3: I didn't mean to do that.

934
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 5: So they're constantly in three receiver sets. So, okay, who's

935
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 5: the third receiver? If if Josh Josh is obviously now

936
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 5: the two Keenan's the one is the third receiver. Darius

937
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 5: Davis is the third receiver. Quinton Johnston is the third receiver.

938
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 5: Semi Fojoko is the third receiver. John Hiite like, are

939
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 5: we digging into the practice squad now? Like who who

940
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 5: ends up getting that third receiver? I think the one

941
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 5: thing with Quinton is and I get it. You've got

942
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 5: Keenan Ana Kallen, Keenan Allen out there. Look, Gerald Everett's

943
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 5: targets are going to go up.

944
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,399
Speaker 3: I don't. I have no doubt in my mind about that.

945
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 5: Justin trust Gerald. I think there's a I think there's

946
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 5: a trust thing there. I don't think Herbert is comfortable

947
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,959
Speaker 5: throwing to Quinton yet, because they're have plays where he's

948
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 5: had an opportunity where Johnston has the leverage, he's broken

949
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 5: off his route, he's created separation. And I can watch

950
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 5: it back on film. I can see that Justin's going

951
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 5: through his progressions and he's looking there and I think

952
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 5: he's just like, Hm, I'll throw it to Mike. Yeah,

953
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 5: I'll throw it to Keenan. And now he's going to

954
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 5: be forced to throw those passes, and when he does,

955
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 5: it's up to Quinton to catch him. You know, there

956
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 5: were a couple there's two plays that I'd like to

957
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 5: have erased from my memory, and one was in the

958
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 5: end zone against Tennessee. And one was this last week

959
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 5: on a third down one yard past the sticks, and

960
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 5: Justin's trying to tea you know, is treating Quinton like

961
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 5: he treats Mike. Where he's throwing that ball up there

962
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 5: where only a guy who's six foot four can go

963
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 5: get it. And for whatever reason, Quinton's jumping with one

964
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 5: hand like he's on both the plays he leaps and

965
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 5: he's only has one hand extended, and I'm like, what

966
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 5: is that? Like, that's you can't catch the ball that way.

967
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 5: You've got to have both hands up ready to secure

968
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 5: the ball and win the fifty to fifty. So those

969
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 5: are the things that I'm sure he and he and

970
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 5: Justin are going to go through. And look, it's it's

971
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 5: on him, man, He's he is going to be pressed.

972
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 5: He's going to go from it's been like fifteen snaps

973
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:24,320
Speaker 5: a game to probably forty fifty.

974
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 4: Like I say, good, you know what this is the

975
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 4: this is the opponent to money to to start against. Okay,

976
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 4: and we'll know a lot a lot about Quentin's development

977
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 4: after Sunday's game, where he is right now, how much

978
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 4: trust Justin has in him. But we've done this so

979
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 4: many times. As you go back to Justin's rookie year.

980
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 4: He's trusting Jalen, Geidon and t Billy. If you get open,

981
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 4: Justin's gonna find you and and Quentin's gonna have a

982
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 4: lot of opportunities.

983
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 2: To be found in this offense.

984
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 3: Uh.

985
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 2: The other TCU receiver though, Darius Davis.

986
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 4: I think Brandon Stilly mentioned Darius specifically about guys.

987
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 2: That may have to step up.

988
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 4: You know, maybe we see more of Darius Davis's speed

989
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 4: on the field, whether it's jet sweeps or these quick

990
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 4: little screens or maybe just going vertical right, because you know,

991
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,439
Speaker 4: during the preseason we saw Darius Davis do some things

992
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 4: on offense in addition to his special teams powers. And

993
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:22,760
Speaker 4: you know they clearly trust Parham in the red zone.

994
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:23,720
Speaker 2: Another big target.

995
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 3: He's been great, He's.

996
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 4: Been fantastic and just like everybody has a specific role,

997
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 4: right and Parham has excelled in that role in the

998
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 4: red zone. Gerald Everett, I think you're right that trust

999
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 4: there that Justin has in him. You're going to see

1000
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 4: en up ticking targets there. So I still think that

1001
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:42,240
Speaker 4: they're more than capable.

1002
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 3: And he, by the way, real quick, Chris.

1003
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:45,879
Speaker 5: He had a great game. He had a great game

1004
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 5: against Minnesota, fought for a first down. Like I'm looking

1005
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 5: at his numbers now, twelve targets, eleven catches, one hundred yards.

1006
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 5: You know it's gonna get you ten yards. You throwing

1007
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 5: the ball, he's gonna catch it twelve And that was

1008
00:48:57,880 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 5: an issue you remember early last year he kind of

1009
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 5: had to acclimate I think to Herbert where he had

1010
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 5: some drops early twelve targets, eleven catches. Like the thing

1011
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,320
Speaker 5: about Quentin, I said fifteen, he's not even at fifteen.

1012
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 5: He's at like twelve. Twelve receiving snaps per game is

1013
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 5: what Quentin's at. So that's gonna that is going to jump.

1014
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 5: To put that in perspective, Mike Williams is averaging just

1015
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 5: just receiving snaps one hundred and thirteen, So like Keenan's

1016
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 5: at one hundred and thirty six, he's at basically forty five.

1017
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 5: I mean, that's what you're talking about the kind of

1018
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 5: jump that he's going to take in terms of receiving snaps.

1019
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 5: Obviously you're out there for the run place as well,

1020
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 5: but that's kind of what I'm getting at.

1021
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 3: When you're in the pattern.

1022
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 4: So you know, Muddy, I hate to do this in

1023
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 4: like fantasy football terms, but like you, if you play

1024
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 4: fantasy football, you probably do if you watch this. The

1025
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 4: tight end position has been an absolute nightmare this year.

1026
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 4: It's been like Kelsey and everybody else, like Samuel Porta,

1027
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 4: a guy you probably didn't draft, is balling out. So

1028
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 4: you know, Gerald's one of those guys that, hey, if

1029
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 4: if you have like a Dallas Goddard and he hasn't

1030
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 4: done anything, maybe you look at Gerald Everett after this

1031
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 4: bike injury and say, hey, he may see an uptick

1032
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:08,760
Speaker 4: in targets.

1033
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 5: You know, I agree, Yeah, Everett Parham, you know we're

1034
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 5: probably going to see a little look if Austin's out there,

1035
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:16,760
Speaker 5: he's going to start getting some balls as well. Clearly

1036
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 5: just not quite as comfortable throwing the ball to Joshua

1037
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 5: Kelly like he is Austin Eckler. You know, I'd like

1038
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:26,879
Speaker 5: to see more Spiller. Spiller had a really nice run

1039
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 5: in that game. Nobody could run the ball, and he

1040
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 5: had one for about six seven yards where he got

1041
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 5: hit at the line of scrimmage should have been like

1042
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 5: a one yard loss. He shook the guy off with

1043
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 5: all that strength and turned it into a six yard game.

1044
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 5: Did a really good job in blitz pick up, I thought.

1045
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 5: So I'm hoping we can see a little bit more

1046
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 5: of him. I'd like to see him get involved in

1047
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 5: the past game because we know from his time at

1048
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:48,799
Speaker 5: A and M he can catch the ball, So maybe

1049
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 5: we'll see an uptick in his snaps as well.

1050
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 2: The Rashaun Slater element to this. He was limited Wednesday.

1051
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 4: You hope that that's just precautionary and he's going to

1052
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 4: be good to go on Sunday. The offensive line has

1053
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 4: played well, they've protected Justin Herbert. What are the things

1054
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:09,879
Speaker 4: that they cannot absolutely do to to explosive plays this game?

1055
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:10,240
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1056
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, explosive plays, you know, just like we saw what

1057
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 5: are your touchdowns thirty six yards to kJ Osbourne, fifty five,

1058
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 5: fifty three yards to Justin Jefferson. Seven explosives out there

1059
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 5: in that game. You know, they lost the Tennessee game

1060
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 5: because of explosive plays seventy yards to Trailing Burke's, you know,

1061
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 5: forty nine yards to Chris Moore, Like that's they still

1062
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 5: have an issue with that. You know, you play great defense,

1063
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 5: you get teams behind the sticks first in twenties, third

1064
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 5: and eighteens, you know, second in twenties, and like teams convert,

1065
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 5: and they've got to stop with the bonehead penalties on

1066
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:53,919
Speaker 5: third down, just like the raheem lane one. Come on, man,

1067
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 5: you cannot draw you know better than that. You cannot

1068
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 5: drop your head like you just can't do it. It's

1069
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 5: you know, Derwin had another one like that's just inexcusable.

1070
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 5: Those are self inflicted wounds where you can get off

1071
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,839
Speaker 5: the field or force a field goal and you're given

1072
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 5: the team.

1073
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 2: Points defense man weeks.

1074
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 5: Now, yeah, all third they're all third downs, like it's

1075
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 5: it's brutal. So that's got to get cleaned up. And

1076
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 5: explosive plays have to get cleaned up, you know, and

1077
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 5: they do that, this team's going to be really good.

1078
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 5: I mean it's this team's got a chance to be

1079
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 5: really good if they can clean that up. But we've

1080
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 5: been saying that for three years now, you know, clean

1081
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:42,280
Speaker 5: up the explosive plays, and they keep biting them. So

1082
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 5: we'll see, you know, right now, Devonte Adams has a

1083
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 5: season long of thirty two yards. Can't let him cannot

1084
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,399
Speaker 5: let him erase that and put a new number there.

1085
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 5: His season high is a thirty two yard reception. You

1086
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 5: cannot let him put a new number there.

1087
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 4: Same with Josh Jacobs. That two point four yards of

1088
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 4: pop needst around that territory.

1089
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:01,839
Speaker 3: Right.

1090
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, before we get out of here, I want to

1091
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 4: ask you about the bye week. And normally, you know

1092
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 4: you hate the early buy but I almost feel like,

1093
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:13,320
Speaker 4: given the injuries, given the way that the season has started,

1094
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 4: if you can get out of this two and two

1095
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 4: and take a breath and get ready for Dallas, I

1096
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 4: almost feel like it's come at the right time for

1097
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 4: this team to maybe end this first quarter of the

1098
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 4: season on a high note, figure out what the heck

1099
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 4: is going on in some of the breakdowns, and then

1100
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 4: kind of retool and get ready for two huge games

1101
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:35,720
Speaker 4: against Dallas and Kansas City.

1102
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:38,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, I hate that the league did them so dirty.

1103
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 5: You know, you get a bye and the Cowboys get

1104
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 5: extra rest. You know, you go from a buye into

1105
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,720
Speaker 5: a Monday night football game. I wish it were reversed.

1106
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 5: I wish it was bye week Kansas City and then

1107
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 5: the Monday nighter.

1108
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,320
Speaker 3: That would be a short week going to Kansas City too.

1109
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:57,320
Speaker 5: Exactly, so you get a short week instead. You're coming

1110
00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 5: off a buy and you get the Monday nighter, the

1111
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 5: extra rest, and then you have to go to Kansas

1112
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:02,760
Speaker 5: City on a short week.

1113
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 3: You know.

1114
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 5: After that is where So that's two very tough games.

1115
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 5: Go into those two and two, and if you come

1116
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 5: out of those two to one and one, not the

1117
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 5: end of the world three and three after six weeks,

1118
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 5: because after that is where they got to make their bones.

1119
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 5: They have got to make their bones in that stretch.

1120
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 5: Bears at home at Jets, Monday night, Detroit, at home

1121
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:30,240
Speaker 5: at Green Bay, Baltimore, at home at New England, Denver,

1122
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 5: at home at Vegas. I mean, that is the stretch

1123
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,840
Speaker 5: that will dictate their season because after that, Buffalo and

1124
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 5: Kansas City in two of the final three weeks of

1125
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:39,240
Speaker 5: the season.

1126
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 3: So it's still there. Looks it was a huge win.

1127
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 5: Even at zero and three, I would have been like, eh,

1128
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 5: probably still there for him. Not ideal going into the

1129
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 5: by at one and three if you beat the Raiders

1130
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 5: and then having the Cowboys and the Chiefs, and you

1131
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 5: might be looking at two and four, you know, but

1132
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 5: go in at two and two, get out of those

1133
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 5: two at three and three, and then you can really

1134
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 5: start to make your march and it's very similar to

1135
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 5: what they did last year, you know at the end

1136
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 5: of the year, when they when they packaged all those

1137
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 5: wins together at the four game win streak, you know,

1138
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 5: right before Week eighteen, at the end of the year,

1139
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 5: to punch their ticket in at ten. So the other

1140
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 5: good news is and it never fails. It just got

1141
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 5: to make we got to stop making stupid proclamations prior

1142
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:25,439
Speaker 5: to the season about oh, the AFC and all these quarterbacks,

1143
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 5: and it's a you're gonna have teams. You better win

1144
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 5: eleven games if you want to win, if you want

1145
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:31,320
Speaker 5: to make it in the the playoffs.

1146
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:32,320
Speaker 3: No.

1147
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 5: Now, it turns out Baltimore, you know, the brilliant Shane

1148
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 5: Steichen forces Lamar to throw the ball outside the numbers

1149
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 5: can't do it, and the Colts go in there with

1150
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 5: Gardner Minshew and get a victory. And you know, and now,

1151
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 5: and obviously the Jets do not have Aaron Rodgers. The

1152
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 5: I'm going through it all. Now, let me just go

1153
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 5: through the conference as we go down. Yeah, there's one

1154
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:55,800
Speaker 5: three and zero team. Are you afraid of? The Steelers

1155
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 5: at two and one second year of Kenny Pickett. Kind

1156
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 5: of a reminder the defense looks great, but you know

1157
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 5: you've got obviously. The Chiefs look fantastic. The Colts are

1158
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 5: two in one, the Browns have an incredible defense, don't

1159
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 5: quite know what the offense is yet. Patriots are talking

1160
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 5: about moving on from Mac Jones. The Jaguars are a

1161
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:21,760
Speaker 5: complete disaster after getting humiliated by by the Texans. Trevor

1162
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 5: Lawrence looks lost. The Bengals are one and two, and

1163
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 5: Joe Burrow looks like he's got a calf injury that's

1164
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 5: going to be dogging them all year. Sean Payton is

1165
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 5: a laughing stock.

1166
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 2: Can I get your thoughts on seventy twenty real quick?

1167
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:35,919
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1168
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:39,839
Speaker 5: You earned it, dude, You know you earned it. That's

1169
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 5: what you get. So it's just there was no Look.

1170
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 5: I don't know Sean Payton personally, but you know I

1171
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 5: know enough people that have been around him to kind

1172
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 5: of know what his personality is, his disposition is, and

1173
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 5: that's hubris and it bit him in the ass. You know,

1174
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 5: you want to run your mouth about the worst coaching job. Hey,

1175
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:01,760
Speaker 5: at least the defense was good last year for Denver.

1176
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 5: It's one of the best defenses in the NFL. Now

1177
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 5: you've shown up, You broke the defense and the offense sucks.

1178
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 5: Can I as a first and a second rounder?

1179
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 2: Can I ask you this?

1180
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 4: I think VIC probably had some mixed emotions in that game, like,

1181
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 4: you know what, we just beat my former team by fifty,

1182
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 4: but I had that defense humming and yeah, and it's

1183
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 4: it's a shame to see what they've become in just

1184
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:28,919
Speaker 4: a couple of years since my departure, right like it's

1185
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 4: I mean even last year money with with with ever,

1186
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 4: like they were a good defense.

1187
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 2: They were they would get after you.

1188
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 3: In the league.

1189
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 4: Justin Simmons wasn't in the game, didn't matter, wouldn't have

1190
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 4: mattered anyway. Maybe they don't give up seventy, but Jalen

1191
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 4: Wattle wasn't even in that game.

1192
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:44,479
Speaker 2: Man.

1193
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:48,479
Speaker 5: By the way, you know they don't have their second

1194
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 5: round pick this year. Very well can end up being

1195
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 5: you know, like the Bears traded their second rounder for

1196
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 5: Chase Claypool. They traded it for Sean Payton along with

1197
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 5: the the Miami first rounder that went to New Orleans.

1198
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 5: If i'm if I'm Tom Telesco, We'll give you our

1199
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 5: second for Justin Simmons. You want you want to replace

1200
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 5: your second with our second, we'll give it to you

1201
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 5: right now, you know, like I would, What do you

1202
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 5: want for certain? We'll give you our one. We'll give

1203
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 5: you our one for certain right now?

1204
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 2: You think they afc West trade there?

1205
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 5: I mean, I the wheels are going to come off

1206
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 5: that thing they're playing. They're playing the Bears this week,

1207
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 5: I think, aren't they if they lose to the.

1208
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 4: Bears everything, That's what I mean, Judy Simmons, everybody is

1209
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 4: on the way.

1210
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 3: Lose to the Bears.

1211
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 5: You might as well start playing for Caleb Williams because

1212
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 5: you can't get rid of Russell's contract. You know, that's

1213
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 5: that thing stuck on the books for at least another year.

1214
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 5: And if you do cut them, I think it's like

1215
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 5: a forty million dollar hit of dead money this year

1216
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 5: and then you're clear, you know, thirty five to forty million.

1217
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 5: So if you have a rookie quarterback, you can account

1218
00:58:57,600 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 5: for that, right if you If you draft Drake may

1219
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 5: or Caleb Williams or you or is one of those

1220
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 5: high picks six, that's fine. Yeah, so I think that

1221
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 5: that will become a serious conversation. And yeah, you know

1222
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 5: you mentioned it. Mike Williams is down all right, I

1223
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 5: don't know what the Courtland Sutton contract looks like, but

1224
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 5: you know, get that outside receiver, that big, physical outside

1225
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 5: receiver to come in the you know, if they're going

1226
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 5: to go into a full rebuild, they don't care. They

1227
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 5: don't care. If you know they're they're given an AFC

1228
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 5: West team, you know, a player. It just's like whatever,

1229
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 5: we're we're going to be two years away anyway, So

1230
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 5: let's let's just freaking recoup and get some picks. And

1231
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 5: I don't think they'd give up Cirtan. He's too good.

1232
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 5: But some team will give him a one. I don't

1233
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 5: think there's any question about it. They'll give him one

1234
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 5: for certain, maybe even they'll give him a one plus.

1235
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 5: But I'd give him a I just think about you know,

1236
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 5: we talk about the physicality of a lowis and and

1237
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 5: what you'd be able to do if you could have

1238
00:59:56,280 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 5: a free like a legit free read the field, take

1239
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 5: the right angles, put a lid on it like that man,

1240
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 5: that'd be a huge addition for this team, a huge addition.

1241
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 4: Certaan's father was on Twitter on Sunday, and he was

1242
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 4: none too pleased with the situation that his son is

1243
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 4: in either so.

1244
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 5: I'm sure you know the son was in the conversation.

1245
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 5: Is the best corner in football last year, the best

1246
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 5: corner in all of football, and now he's on a

1247
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 5: defense that allowed seventy points to a team like disaster,

1248
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 5: And you know what couldn't happen to a better guy?

1249
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 2: AFC. You said it, and it's the same. It's the

1250
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 2: usual suspects.

1251
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:38,479
Speaker 4: Man, it's Kansas City, it's Buffalo, and now it's Miami,

1252
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 4: and now it's Miami.

1253
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 2: It's those it's those three teams.

1254
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 4: And if the Chargers can do what they're supposed to

1255
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 4: do and beat the Raiders and beat the Cowboys and

1256
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 4: maybe beat the Chiefs or split that, like you said,

1257
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 4: make some hay in that soft part of the schedule,

1258
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 4: they may be in a position.

1259
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 2: Right historically they have not.

1260
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 4: Done what the Rams did in terms of getting guys

1261
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 4: like Jalen Ramsey, Ron Miller or Odell Beckham. But if

1262
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 4: they're in a position where they're making hey and Mike

1263
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 4: Evans is available or Justin Simmons is available.

1264
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 3: Mike Evans a great call.

1265
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe this is a year you do go for

1266
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 2: it because you haven't done it in the past.

1267
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 4: You do have the draft capital to do it and

1268
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 4: it's not gonna kill you. And you know, you look

1269
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 4: at the cap number of a lot of these guys,

1270
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 4: Joey Khalil, Keenan, Mike. Some of those guys are not

1271
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 4: going to be here next year. So if you can

1272
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 4: make some hey, maybe that's something that we talk about

1273
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 4: here in the next four or five weeks. I purposely

1274
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 4: did not do the mail bag this week because we

1275
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 4: have a bye week next week, and we'll.

1276
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 3: Do it next week. There's just too much talk weeks. Exactly, yeah, exactly.

1277
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 2: All right, that's gonna do it, Uh, buddy, I will

1278
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 2: be there on Sunday. Look forward to seeing you, man.

1279
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 4: It's for telling you guys, Uh, Chargers Raiders Sunday, they're

1280
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 4: going to go one zero in the AFCU West for

1281
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:59,160
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01:01:59,160 --> 01:01:59,920
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1283
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