1 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, number of one, nine one 2 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:17,440 Speaker 1: one one bare American theme. I try to find my wife. 3 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: You're trying to find your wife? Yeah, Sven and you 4 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: guy here her? Do you know what directions to usually walk? 5 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:42,599 Speaker 1: Then I know exactly. I'll road the whole area. You 6 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: are hearing the voice of the high school principle who 7 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 1: suddenly realizes his wife is gone. That's the nine one 8 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: one call. I Meancy Grace, this is Crime Stories. Thank 9 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: you for being with us. We're trying to glean any 10 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: information we can. Did I hear him correctly? With me 11 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: John Linley, investigative reporter at the Crime online dot Com 12 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 1: to say he was upstairs asleep, came back down and 13 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: she was gone. Didn't it was that correct? Did I 14 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: hear that correct? And stating the obvious? It's hard to 15 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: understand him. He said he was sleeping, it's not normal 16 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,839 Speaker 1: for her to be gone, and he had already driven around. 17 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: He said, I've already wrote around, meaning he had driven 18 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: her usual route for walking. You know, for a high 19 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: school principal, A that's a grammar felony. But I'm more 20 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: concerned about the wife right now with me an all 21 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 1: star panel to break it down put it back together again. 22 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: Joining me a renowned pathologist, the Deputy Chief Medical Examiner 23 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: in Buffalo, doctor Katherine Maloney, John Cardillo, former NYPD forensic psychiatrists. 24 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: Joining me out of the Florida jurisdiction, doctor Daniel Bober. 25 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: Ashley Wilcott, judge, trial lawyer. You can find her Ashley 26 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: Wilcot dot com. Well, you know, right off the bat, 27 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: Ashley Wilcot, I got a little problem because there's a 28 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:12,959 Speaker 1: bullet hole in the floor of the bedroom. Now, I'm 29 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: just assuming you was a taking a nap in the bedroom. 30 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: He didn't hear a gun go off. And if there 31 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: was a gunfire in the bedroom, where is she? Yeah? 32 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: And the best part of that, Nancy, as he said, Oh, 33 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: I don't know why there's a bullet I don't know, 34 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 1: and I don't have a gun. On top of that, 35 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: let me suggest this that most spouses, when they live 36 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: in the same house, if one of them goes out, 37 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: especially the female, a female goes out to take a 38 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: walk at night, generally the other spouse, boyfriend, girlfriend, whoever 39 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: lives in the house with them, doesn't just go to sleep, 40 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: but rather kind of pays attention listens to make sure 41 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: they hear him come back. Ye, now, hold on, hold 42 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: your horses, Ashley Wilcott. I think you're correct in meniications, 43 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: but sometimes I never know if my husband David is 44 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: in or out. Less I hear the ring sound on 45 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: my cell phone. It sounds like bewitch casting a spell 46 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: like and I go, well, there goes David. Okay, So 47 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: if I didn't have the ring, what I really like 48 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: to do is speak to him through the phone. It 49 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: kind of always scares him and I can watch him. 50 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:23,119 Speaker 1: That's very curious what you're bringing up, um, Doctor Kathery 51 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: Maloney with me, John Cardillo, doctor Daniel Bober, John Limley 52 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: with Crime online dot Com. John, let me understand he 53 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: didn't know where the bullet came from. The bullet hole 54 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: in his bedroom floor. Is that where he's supposed to 55 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: be taking a nap? And why is he taking a 56 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: nap at night? If he waited forty five minutes, he 57 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: could go to sleep well. He says he doesn't even 58 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: own a gun and has no earthly idea why a 59 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: bullet would even be on the bedroom floor, let alone 60 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: a hole in the floor next to the bullet. And 61 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: as for sleeping. Your guess is as good as mine. 62 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: No one has explained that so much hope. Maybe he 63 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: was just down for the night, but he did make 64 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: it sound like he was taking a nap. Well, it 65 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: didn't take long for others to do what James Yarborough, 66 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: the principle could not do. Listen, the corner tells us 67 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: that that woman found is Karen Yarborough from Somerville, who 68 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: had gone missing. At this time, it's not clear how 69 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: long she had gone missing for, but I did reach 70 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 1: out to the coroner to ask him about that. But 71 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: we also have learned that she's expected to have an 72 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 1: autopsy at the Medical University of South Carolina, and deputies 73 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: tell us that she is an apparent victim of a homicide. 74 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: They actually got a tip. Deputies got a tip that 75 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: there was a body found here on Harrison Road, and 76 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: from there they came out here and this scene has 77 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: been active. Deputies and knines have been coming in and 78 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: out all day long. This is actually off of a 79 00:04:55,839 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: gravel road and this area is surrounded by woods. Now 80 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: we are still waiting to learn how exactly miss Yarborough 81 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: ended up here in the town of Dorchester. In the 82 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: town of Dorchester Bay to you John Lumley, investigative reporter 83 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: with Crime online dot Com, the town of Dorchester. Where 84 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: is that in relation to the high school principal James 85 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 1: Yarborough and his wife Karen's home. They lived in Somerville, 86 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: South Carolina. Karen was a business manager in Charleston, about 87 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: twenty five miles southeast. That will give you a better 88 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: idea of the region we're talking about in South Carolina. 89 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: And then where she was found. Where her body was 90 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 1: found was right on the edge of protected Audubon wildlife 91 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: preserve called the Bibler Forest. Take a listen to our 92 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: friends at WCBD. This is Taylor Murray. Police are investigating 93 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: this as a murder after a woman was found dead 94 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: earlier today in rural Dorchester County and is an ongoing investigation. 95 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 1: But here is what we know now. Earlier today, the 96 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: Dorchester County Sheriff's Office received a report about a body 97 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: near the Bibler Forest along Harrison Road in Dorchester. The 98 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 1: Dorchester County Corner later identified the body as a missing 99 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 1: Somerville woman, sixty three year old Karen Yarborough. Additional details 100 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 1: are still limited at this time, but the Somerville Police Department, 101 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: Dorchester County Sheriff's Office, and the Dorchester County Coroner's Office 102 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 1: are investigating this together, and we're told that an autopsy 103 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 1: is scheduled for Thursday morning at MUSC John Linley Crime 104 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,799 Speaker 1: online dot Com. What do we know about the cod 105 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 1: cause of death? Well, the Dorchester County Coroner's Office says 106 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: that it was obvious that this is a homicide, and 107 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: the autopsy has revealed We have just the basics of 108 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: the autopsy report at this point, the full thing still 109 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: to come. The autopsy revealed that she died from a 110 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 1: gunshot to the head. Joining me as I mentioned doctor 111 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: Catherine Maloney out of New York and forensic psychiatrist doctor 112 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 1: Daniel Bober. I've got so many questions running through my 113 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: mind right now to doctor Catherine Maloney. Why is it 114 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: they'd take one look at the body and they immediately 115 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: say this is a homicide? Well, I mean that it 116 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: would be based on the circumstances of the scene investigation. 117 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: At times we're performing an autopsy, you can get information 118 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: about the range of fire. So if this was a 119 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: self inflicted gunshot wound, you might expect to see certain 120 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: characteristics of the wound that would let you know that 121 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: the gun was held closer to the head, which we 122 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: often see in a self inflicted gunshot wound versus wound 123 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: from a distance where there wouldn't be those findings. So 124 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: there may have been findings like that that the forensic 125 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: mythologists saw. Or to John Cardillo from an NYPD, he's 126 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: been around the block once or twice in New York. 127 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: It may be as simple as you see that the 128 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: back of her head is blown out with a gun, 129 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: and you know that she could not possibly maneuver a 130 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: weapon to shoot herself in the back of the head 131 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: right now, So yeah, you could. You could look at 132 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: a body and if there's no stippling, there's no powder burns, 133 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: and if, of course, if the round entered from the 134 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: back of the head, then you're gonna rule out suicide 135 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: pretty quickly, and you're gonna run erring on the side 136 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: of safety on the premise that it was a homicide. 137 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: But I get to doctor Daniel Bober, who is an 138 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: MD as well as a psychiatrist. Doctor Daniel Bober, I 139 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: hear what doctor Catherine Maloney is saying. Sometimes you see 140 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: a body, you find a body, say, in their apartment, 141 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 1: and it looks like the person's asleep. You don't see 142 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: any trauma, you don't see any marks around the neck, 143 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 1: you don't see a stab wound, a gunshot, and once 144 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: you've seen a gunshot, you know what a gunshot looks like. Now, 145 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: of course there's the opportunity to be shot with a 146 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 1: like Saya twenty two, but she leaves a little leno up. 147 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: It's almost like it's nothing depending on where your shot. 148 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 1: But typically with a gunshot wound, you know it's a 149 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 1: gunshot wound. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, we are talking 150 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: about the murder a beautiful mom Karen Yarborough, a business executive, 151 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 1: as well to doctor Daniel Bober. Doctor Bober, clearly this 152 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 1: was not her regular walking path. So what this says 153 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: to me at the very outset is that's not where 154 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: the murder occurred. She was taken there, that's not where 155 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,559 Speaker 1: she normally walks. That I go for a walk, and 156 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: then no, I don't want to pretend I'm dale. Let's 157 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: see Ashley Wilcote goes for a walk. Okay, I'll let 158 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: her die. Ashley Wilcote goes for a walk and then 159 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: Suddenly her body's found five miles away at the bottom 160 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: of a rasine and she's been shot. Okay, what that 161 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: tells me? Right there, she was not killed on her 162 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: normal walk. I don't know if she ever was on 163 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: a normal walk and she was murdered, Okay. When the 164 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: body is found, when Ashley's found, there's not a gun there. 165 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 1: If this had been suicide, the weapon would still be there. 166 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: So it tells me she was not killed on her 167 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: normal walk. Ashley was taken somewhere and dumped. Sorry, Ashley, 168 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 1: so bober, what does this scenario tell you about Karen 169 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: Yarborough's death? Obviously that she was not you know, within 170 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: her comfort zone, in her geographical area, that her body 171 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: was moved from her from that location where where the 172 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 1: actual murder occurred and dump. You know. Another issue, Ashley, 173 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: you're alive again with me, judge trial lawyer Ashley Wilcot 174 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 1: at Ashley Wilcot dot com. Ashley. Another issue is this 175 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: was about twenty miles away from her home. Okay. Again, 176 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: the weapon was not found with her. She's got what 177 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: we think is a single gunshot wound way in Ashley. 178 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: So it is exactly you know, the first place they 179 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: look when they investigate us a crime scene, which is 180 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 1: where the body is located. So the distance from the 181 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: house is an issue if in fact a husband were 182 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 1: to believe believed that she had quote unquote gone out 183 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: on a walk. But add to that, because you have 184 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: a secondary crime scene right of her house, because you 185 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,839 Speaker 1: have a bullet a hole in the ground then or 186 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 1: a hole in the floor. Rather you put those two 187 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 1: things together and it doesn't add up. This woman has 188 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: been murdered and dumped. Are we connecting the dots too soon? 189 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 1: How would someone in a home not know a gun 190 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:10,439 Speaker 1: had been fired right there in their own bedroom? Take 191 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: a listen to our friends at WCSC at least went 192 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:15,719 Speaker 1: to Yarborough's house to talk to him. They saw some 193 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,559 Speaker 1: things that didn't add up. They saw bloodstains on his shirt. 194 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: Yarborough told them it was an old shirt and he 195 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 1: was taking blood thinners. They also found Karen Yarborough's purse 196 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: with her cell phone at it. Cops also found a 197 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: bullet in the master bedroom. Yarborough told them he did 198 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: not own a gun. A few hours later, someone found 199 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: Karen Yarborough's body near the beat La Forest in Dorchester County. 200 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 1: James Yarborough was taken into custody and charged with murder, 201 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: obstruction of justice, a possession of a weapon during a 202 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 1: violent crime. Gosh, don't make sense. Bill Blevins owns the 203 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 1: Tasty Freeze restaurant across from Somerville High School, where Yarborough 204 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: was principal from nineteen ninety four through nineteen ninety eight. 205 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,359 Speaker 1: Blevin says Yarborough used to come there in a regulars. 206 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 1: He was surprised to hear about his arrest. He'd like 207 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: a super nice bed. I don't understand. Police are still 208 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: trying to determine what led to the murder. That's Harv 209 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: Jacobs there at WCSC. The ripple effect of a high 210 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: school principle, A mild mannered high school principle potentially being 211 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 1: involved in his wife's murder. The ripples go on. Take 212 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: a listen to WCS. A former principal at Somerville High 213 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 1: has been charged with killing his wife. Somerville police arrested 214 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 1: James Yarborough in the death of his wife, Karen Yarborough. 215 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: James Yarborough charged with murder, possession of a weapon during 216 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: a violent crime, and obstruction of justice. Karen Yarborough's body 217 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: was found near the Bidler National Forest in Dorchester County. 218 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: Somerville police went to Yarborough's home to investigate his wife's disappearance. 219 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: James Yarborough reportedly told officers his wife said she was 220 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: going for a walk about eight Monday night, straight out 221 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 1: to Katherine Maloney, the Deputy Chief Medical Examiner in Buffalo Again, DOTR. Maloney, 222 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. All police reports, all 223 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: news accounts state that her body was dumped, which gives 224 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 1: me a big clue. Kieran's body was found dumped in 225 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: a wooded area about twenty miles from home Dorchester County, 226 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: South Carolina. How can you look at a body, doctor 227 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: Maloney until it's been dumped, as opposed to that's where 228 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: the crime occurred, or they fell and died, or they 229 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: fell and died of natural causes. Why did they all 230 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: say they could look at the body until it was dumped. Well, 231 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: in this case, I'm guessing it's because at the scene 232 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: where they found her, there probably wasn't the blood that 233 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: they'd expect to see. So if this is where the 234 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: crime was committed, then you would or where she was shot, 235 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: then you would expect to see a lot of blood 236 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: there from the bleeding from the gunshot wound, and there 237 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: probably wasn't any blood there. Also, this is twenty miles 238 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: from her home, so it's not like she was going 239 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: out for a leisure league twenty mile walk in the 240 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: middle of the evening. She's very far from her house, 241 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: so she was brought there. If there's no vehicle there, 242 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: then how did she get there? I mean, unless she's 243 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: a marathon runner, presumably she didn't run there and then 244 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: suddenly die of natural causes. So I think the logical 245 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: assumption is that someone brought the body there and dumped 246 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: it there. M you know, on the NINA one call 247 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: to doctor Daniel Bober. Doctor Bober, what do you make 248 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: of his demeanor on the phone? Well, you know, he 249 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: seemed a little bit too calm and collected for someone 250 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: whose wife has been missing. But you know, again you 251 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: can't draw always draw firm conclusions from that, but he 252 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: sounds like almost flat. I would say, it didn't seem 253 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: like it was really consistent or congruent with the context 254 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: of what was going on. To Ashy Wilcott. It seemed 255 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: to me he's setting up that she committed suicide. Because 256 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: he tails cops, you know, after they come to speak 257 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: to him. Guys with me Ashy Wilcott and trial Lawyering. 258 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: You can find her at Ashley Wilcot dot com. He 259 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: says she's been depressed, that he got ready for bed 260 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: and went to bed at eight o'clock, that she was 261 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: depressed and went for a walk. You know, if my husband, 262 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: first of all, said he was depressed right there, you know, 263 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: I'd have to call his family. David, it is not 264 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: the kind of person that says I'm depressed. I don't 265 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: think I've ever heard him say that in his whole life. 266 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: He no. And Plus, if he did say I'm depressed, 267 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: I'm going for a walk in the dark, I would 268 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: try to keep him from going. I would say, look, 269 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: let me make you a cup of coffee, you know, 270 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: let's just go sit outside and talk. Or I would 271 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: not somebody say I'm depressed and they go for a 272 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: walk in the dark. That would concern me, Ashley. But 273 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: that is what he told police. Yeah, that is what 274 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: he told police. But frankly, his entire story didn't make 275 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: much sense by the end of it. However, having said that, 276 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: that's what I meant, I think I'll circle back to 277 00:16:57,960 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: when you have a spass or someone you live with, 278 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: and especially like you point out Nancy, when they say 279 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 1: they're depressed and it's dark and they're going for a walk. 280 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: I don't believe that you're just gonna, okay, go to bed, 281 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: fall asleep, and then all of a sudden realize there, Oh, yeah, 282 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: my wife is missing. It's too suspicious because you would 283 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 1: take different steps if you knew they were depressed or 284 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 1: going through things. Time stories to Greece summer of my 285 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 1: nine one one looks like a Sharry emergency. I'm trying 286 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: to find my wife. You're trying to find your wife? Yeah, 287 00:17:52,920 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: I want saving and going. Who's got here her? Do 288 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: you know what directions she usually walks in? I know, 289 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: Jack rode the whole area. You are hearing the voice 290 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:20,120 Speaker 1: of a high school principle who suddenly realizes his wife 291 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: is gone. That's the nine one one call. Did you notice, Ashley? 292 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: I mean, yes, we're trial lawyers, you're a judge as well. 293 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,919 Speaker 1: I'm still a lay person. But his speech she sounded 294 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: slurred on the phone call. It's hard to understand. Yeah, 295 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: definitely sounded out of it. And I did notice that 296 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: because again, if I thought my spouse were really missing, 297 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 1: I would be panicked, upset, crying, freaked out. Something other 298 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: than as it's almost like he's asleep still or I 299 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: don't know why flouring his speech, but something sounds off. 300 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,679 Speaker 1: How did these two meet? What's their history? Take a 301 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 1: listen to our friend bro be hard at people liked 302 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 1: him flipping it through time. She always had a smile 303 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: on her face. She was just the sweetest girl. Ken 304 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: Bowman's reminded of the year's spin with Stan and Karen Yarborough. Yeah, 305 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: he says, all three of them were high school classmates 306 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: and have been neighbors the last several years. Standing Karen 307 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: were just typical high school students when I knew him, 308 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: And we hate that this has happened, and we hate 309 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:27,959 Speaker 1: what Stand's gonna have to go through if he has 310 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: found guilty. Police charge Stan Yarborough with the murder of 311 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 1: his wife Karen on Tuesday. Several neighbors say they've heard 312 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: the couple arguing, but Ken says he never saw anything 313 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 1: out of the ordinary. But I had never heard of 314 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: any problem with the two of them at all, And 315 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: there's nothing we can do for Karen anymore. Hardly anything 316 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: we can do for Stan, but there are things we 317 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: can do for their family members. Did John Limley Crime 318 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: Online dot Com investigative reporter, what do you know about 319 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: their relationship? Well, they had done each other, Karen and Stan, 320 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: at least since I school, if not even before that. However, 321 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 1: it seems their lives went in different directions until many 322 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 1: I stop at stop at stop, stop stop stop. That's 323 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 1: Hollywood talk, you know. It's like on TV you see 324 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: one one star is out and they just plan another 325 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: one in there like you're not going to notice, and 326 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 1: they go, We're going in a different direction. David and 327 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: I laugh about that all the time. What do you 328 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 1: mean they're going in a different direction? Ashley Wilcot Wait, 329 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: I need a shrink for this, doctor, Daniel Bober. I 330 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 1: met my husband David shortly after my fiancee was murdered. Okay, 331 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 1: that was a long time ago, and we have lived 332 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: in separate cities for over, you know, fifteen years. He 333 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: went to grad school, I went to law school. That 334 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 1: a lot happened, but in my mind, love is love, 335 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 1: and he stuck by me through all of that. I'm 336 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: not limbly different directions. Why do people say I'm going 337 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,199 Speaker 1: in a different direction. That's b as I. You know, 338 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 1: either you've got a lover or some other interest occurs 339 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: in your life. There's there's a break somewhere in that relationship. 340 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 1: You don't just wander away from each other. I don't 341 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: buy that, doctor Bober. Well, you know, Nancy, it's a 342 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: fairly generic pop culture term. It really doesn't have any 343 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: meeting except for the fact that to one or one 344 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: of the two people or both people don't have the 345 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: emotional maturity to make the relationship work. So that's really 346 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 1: what it's about. Yeah, you know, sometimes I look at David. 347 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: He'll say some smart elect comment to me, and I think, 348 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: oh m anyway, long story short. I am not going 349 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: to let him go in a different direction. I can 350 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: tell you that much. That is not gonna happen. Um 351 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: as you woke out, what do you make of that? Limley, Limley, 352 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: I'll circle back to you. Different direction? Okay, what about 353 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: an Ash? Yeah, I don't think. I don't think you 354 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: go different directions. I think exactly like you're saying. I 355 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: think that somebody chooses makes the choice to have a 356 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: fair juice, something to bury or something they shouldn't you 357 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 1: don't just go different directions. I completely agree with you 358 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 1: and John Limley. You know, I'm gonna go online and 359 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: check your reporter credentials. No offense. You know people say 360 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: no offense right before they say something offensive. Okay, because 361 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: what you're leaving out is the big gap. I got 362 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 1: Jackie Howard telling me, who knows about everybody's relationship, that 363 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,919 Speaker 1: these two broke up in high school and they only 364 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: got back together in twenty twelve, twenty fourteen, right, and 365 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 1: that is when they got married. Yeah, did you leave 366 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: that out? Limby? They haven't been together and all board 367 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: with each other since high school. That was my different director. Limley, 368 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: are you even in a relationship? I'm married? Okay, so 369 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 1: you're married. Well, I hope your spouse is not going 370 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: in a different direction. That's a huge big deal. Doctor 371 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: Daniel Bober again a shrink. And if you can't answer this, 372 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: I met Ashley Wilcott Ken. There's a big difference. And 373 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:04,479 Speaker 1: you've known them since high school and you broke up 374 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 1: in high school and you get back together in twenty fourteen, 375 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 1: that's a very different relationship. I agree, Nancy, because I mean, 376 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: let's put it out there. You're a very different person 377 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: in high school than you are. It's a different day run. 378 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: So I think getting back together probably says something about 379 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: the strength of the release. Oh please, doctor Bober, you're 380 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 1: really putting perfume on the pig. What it means is 381 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: you're not bored yet. Okay. David sometimes looks at me goes, 382 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 1: are you tired of me? And I'm go, I've been 383 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: tired of you since nineteen seventy nine, and okay, that's 384 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: it's a show. And I don't mean it because I'm not. 385 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:43,719 Speaker 1: I'm not. But Ashi Wilcot, that's a big difference. Okay, 386 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 1: everybody laugh, But actually the truth is and our relationship, 387 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 1: I feel like I've been with David for like maybe 388 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 1: two or three years, and we've really been together a 389 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: long time. But I do like to say that to 390 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 1: him to keep him on his toes. Ashie Wilcot, there's 391 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: a big difference in you've been dating since high school 392 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 1: and then you just reunite it in twenty fourteen. Could 393 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 1: you explain that to Bober place. I don't know my 394 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: reason because we all know a lot of people that 395 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: I hear from that I know personally who have been 396 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,919 Speaker 1: together since high school. For a very long time because 397 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 1: I am older. They do say that you grow up together, 398 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 1: and so that can have negative or positive consequences. But 399 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 1: it's a whole different thing, you know, a personal lot differently, 400 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: when you've been married for a long time together since 401 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 1: high school, then when you go and live your life 402 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 1: and come back together later in life, will you go 403 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: to doctor Katherine Maloney who is joining US Deputy Chief 404 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: Medical Examiner out of Buffalo, Doctor Maloney, how can you 405 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 1: look at let's just say ahead injury and determine where 406 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 1: the killer was at the time of the shooting, what 407 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: position they were, and explain if you could trajectory path. 408 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: So the trajectory path is the path that the bullet 409 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 1: takes through the body. So you can tell if the 410 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: bullets traveled well, you know, kind of as it enters 411 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: a body, does it go up or down or right 412 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: or left? And is it going back to front or 413 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: front to back, And obviously that will give you an 414 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: idea of perhaps the location of the gun in relationship 415 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: to the person that has been shot, and so that 416 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 1: can give you a sense of perhaps how the two 417 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: people were in relation to one another, Like was one 418 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 1: of them was a person who shot the gun. Was 419 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: it somehow lower or was it higher? The tricky thing 420 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: about trajectories you have to keep in mind that both 421 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: people might be moving, so the person who shot could 422 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: be leaning forward or leaning backward, and that could make 423 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 1: a gunshot won't appear to be going up or going down, 424 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: when in fact it's really more of a straight on shot. 425 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: So it actually can be pretty tricky to get an 426 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 1: exact idea of how people were facing each other, but 427 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 1: it can kind of give you a general sense of 428 00:25:49,800 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 1: the relationship of two people when one shoots another. Crime 429 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 1: stories with Nancy Grace jointing mean John Cardillo, former NYPD. 430 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:14,400 Speaker 1: What about the other evidence found at the home, specifically 431 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: this high school principles shirt. Well that you know, when 432 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: you put the totality of the evidence together Nancy and 433 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 1: the fact pattern, it all adds up in my opinion, 434 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,439 Speaker 1: if I were an arresting investigator to probable cause. So 435 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,159 Speaker 1: you've got forensic evidence on the shirt, You've got a 436 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: gun fired in the home, and like you mentioned, a 437 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: gun going off in an enclosed space. I don't care 438 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 1: if it's a tiny, little twenty two long rifle is 439 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 1: going to be loud. It's going to be deafening. You're 440 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: not sleeping through that. This case appears to involve a 441 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 1: common defensive or duty handgun round, which is going to 442 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: be incredibly loud in an enclosed space like a home, 443 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,679 Speaker 1: so you're going to know a gunman off. Now, in 444 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,479 Speaker 1: most jurisdictions, let's take the murder aspect out of it. 445 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: If you have an accidental discharge of a firearm in 446 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: your home, you're to notify law enforcement. So that alone 447 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: would give the police reason constitutional reasons to investigate further. 448 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: Now you find the wife's body, and as others noted, 449 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: there might not have been blood around the body, no 450 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: firearm there. Now you're looking at a homicide, no vehicle 451 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 1: that brought her there, other means of conveyance, the shirt. 452 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: With the evidence, now you've got more than enough probable 453 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: cause to make an arrest. I would suspect that when 454 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 1: police questioned him. It's timeline, And you know this is 455 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: a prosecutor, and as investigators, we know the timeline means 456 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: everything as through the credibility of the assertions that the 457 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,679 Speaker 1: suspect would make. And in this case, it appears when 458 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 1: you combine all that evidence with this guy's narrative of 459 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 1: his timeline. The fact pattern led the investigators to one place, 460 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,919 Speaker 1: and that was to arrest him for murder. To John Limley, 461 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: investigative reporter, you hear John Cardillo talking about forensic evidence, 462 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:58,400 Speaker 1: evidence evidence on the shirt. It's blood. It's blood, Limley, 463 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 1: That's what's on his shirt. Lane. Right as Stan is 464 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: describing his wife to the officers standing there, they can't 465 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,959 Speaker 1: help but notice there's a big red stain on his shirt. 466 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: And Stan says it's his own blood, that this is 467 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: something that happens often because he's on blood thinners. In 468 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:21,679 Speaker 1: the police report, I see that the cops noted the 469 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,640 Speaker 1: high school principal had a red stain on the bottom 470 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: of his shirt as he was speaking to them. I mean, 471 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: you're talking to the cops and you have blood on 472 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: your shirt, and then he tells the cops according to 473 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: this police report, I'm looking at that he was on 474 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: blood thinners and the blood must have been his and 475 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: the shirt was old. Okay, Ashley Wilcott. That's not hanging 476 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 1: together for me, not at all. He didn't know where 477 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: it came from, but it'sten on blood cinners. Listen, if 478 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: you had blood stains on your shirt, I would suggest 479 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 1: most people are going to know exactly why, what it's from, 480 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: when it happened. That's not an everyday occurrent. Well, not 481 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: only that, what can you tell me, John Limley, investigative 482 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: reporter joining us about the family cars and the flower pots. Yeah, 483 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: not only do things not look right inside the house, 484 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: they don't look right outside either. There was damage to 485 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: both of the couple's vehicles. There were broken flower pots, 486 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: and a wheelbarrow. Officers said that after they started putting 487 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: all this together, connecting the dots, it just looked like 488 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 1: someone attempting to clean up the scene of some sort 489 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: of incident, maybe a murder. Take a listen to our friend, 490 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: Danielle Sata a Mount Pleasants wcb D depending charges against 491 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:47,959 Speaker 1: Jaborrow include murder, obstruction of justice, and weapon violations. Who 492 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 1: was on Tuesday night where he told police that his 493 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: wife was missing. Investigators responded to a rural area near 494 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: by their forest in Dorchester County last night. They found 495 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 1: the body of Karen Yarboro in a wooded area. In 496 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,959 Speaker 1: the police report I obtained today, Somerville police say they 497 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: respond to the couple's Warring Street home yesterday. According to 498 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: the reports, Dan Yarborough told authorities his wife was missing 499 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 1: since Monday. To Ashley Wilcott, what do you make on 500 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: the flower pots and the car well again, so remember 501 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: this is the secondary crime scene. You have where the 502 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: body was found as the primary. This is the secondary 503 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 1: And so during the course of an investigation, obviously law 504 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: enforcement is going that they have to look at all 505 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: of the evidence. Everything they see document and when you 506 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: take all of these things together, talk about circumstantial. The 507 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: flowerpot in and of itself, big deal. The car in 508 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: and of itself, big deal. But when you put these 509 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 1: things together along with the blood on the shirt, I 510 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: don't remember I'm on blood sinners, don't not out there, 511 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: it's fine. And a board on the floor and next 512 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: to a hole on the floor in the house where 513 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 1: the husband says, I don't even have a gun. I 514 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 1: don't know where this came from. You start looking at 515 00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 1: all of these things together and you can start to 516 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: connect the dot. Well another issue to you, doctor Daniel Bober, 517 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: physics psychiatrist. To me, it's like the riding on the wall. 518 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 1: There's also the issue of a wheel barrow found in 519 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: the front of the couple's home. I'd be very curious 520 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: to find out if the cars park in front of 521 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 1: the home, like in a driveway, which I think that 522 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: they do, because it's very clear to me, Bober that 523 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: she is shot upstairs in the bedroom, that he then 524 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 1: drags her down, drags her to the front door, puts 525 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: her body in a wheelbarrow, and then in getting the 526 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: wheelbarrow with the body in it to the car, he 527 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: knocks over the flower pots. It's very obvious to me 528 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: what happened. Yeah, Nancy, I mean it's pretty much like 529 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: a roadmap. I mean, you've got you've got the bullet 530 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: in the bedroom, you've got the blood on the T shirt, 531 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: you've got the flower pots that were knocked over. I mean, 532 00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: he pretty much did everything but announced himself. It's, uh, 533 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: it's pretty straightforward. It seems that way. Anyway. Let's take 534 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: a listen one more time to that nine one one 535 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: call summer of nine one one was like a hair emergency. 536 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: I find my wife. You're trying to find your wife. Yeah, 537 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: I save and you got here her. Do you know 538 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: what directions she usually walks in? I know exactly. I 539 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: rode the whole area. You're hearing him talking, but surprisingly 540 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: to Ashley Walcott that call was not made until the 541 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: following morning. Is that correct, John Emley? That is correct. 542 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 1: It was at least twelve hours later, So the whole 543 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 1: night he doesn't notice she's gone. Ashley again, So I 544 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 1: stand by he wouldn't have gone to sleep when she 545 00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: left in the dark depressed to go take a walk. However, 546 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: even if he went to sleep I would suggest that 547 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 1: he would have woken up at some point. I do 548 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 1: this all the time, and you know my husband. If 549 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: my husband's downstairs watching TV, falls asleep in front of 550 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: the TV. I noticed in the middle of the night, Hey, 551 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: there's nobody next to me. I'm going to go down 552 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: and check. I'm gonna see where he is. Is everything good? 553 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 1: I think that's normal human Well maybe not normal, but 554 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 1: I do think that's human nature. So I cannot imagine 555 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: that it's plausible that he slept all night and woke 556 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 1: up and he still sounds sleepy or something and then says, though, 557 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: I've better call because she's not here. It doesn't make 558 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: good logical sense to me. Well, also, your husband is 559 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 1: about six to four, and he's got away in a 560 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 1: at least two twenty five, so it would really be 561 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 1: hard to miss him. Am I right about that? Oh? 562 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 1: You're right, he's actually sixty seven. And I won't come 563 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 1: in on the weight, Okay, I knew it was up there. Yeah, 564 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: it'd be hard, it'd be hard not to notice he's missing. Okay. 565 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: Just nothing is fitting together for me in this case. 566 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: In another aspect of it, Dodtor Catherine Maloney, I'm not 567 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 1: going to ask you how many autopsies you have performed, 568 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: and I guess you and I have probably seen the 569 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 1: gamut of dope killings, bar FIGHTSS car accidents. But how 570 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 1: many times, doctor Maloney, have you seen and educated, mild 571 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 1: mannered high school principle involved with the brutal murder of 572 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 1: his wife. Well, I'm not sure specifically a high school principle, 573 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 1: but I mean, do we do see a fair number 574 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 1: of domestic disturbances. I guess our domestics is what we 575 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 1: call them. When usually the husband kills the wife or 576 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 1: the boyfriend kills the girlfriend. Unfortunately, it's really not that uncommon. 577 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 1: Sometimes there's a history of domestic violence, or neighbors will 578 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 1: say they fought a lot, but sometimes there's just no 579 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,919 Speaker 1: history at all, and it's entirely unclear what caused one 580 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 1: spouse to snap and kill the other one. But it 581 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: does happen, unfortunately. And to doctor Daniel Bober, forensic psychiatrist, 582 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 1: everything she just said is right. That there are a 583 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 1: lot of domestic homicides. And typically, however, in domestic homicides, 584 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 1: they're very awful, will be prior domestic abuse reports. The 585 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 1: family or the friends or the co workers will know 586 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 1: about domestic abuse. Neighbors may have heard arguments in the past, 587 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:33,879 Speaker 1: not so in this case. And often in domestic homicides, 588 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 1: the man, which is typically the killer, not always has 589 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 1: a reputation for I got a rage problem, or he's 590 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 1: a control free or he's will fly off the handle 591 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: very easily. Yeah, not the case at all with James Yarboro. 592 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 1: It is very odd, Nancy. Usually, like you said, there 593 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 1: is an escalation, a crescendo where generally the man will 594 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 1: up the ante and in this case it seems to 595 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: have occurred strictly in isolation, which is unusual. We are 596 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 1: talking about the murder a beautiful bomb. Karen Yarborough a 597 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 1: business executive as well. Take a listen to this. Yarborough. 598 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 1: In court today a judge denied bond for his murder 599 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 1: charge but did issue a fifty thousand dollar bond for 600 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,320 Speaker 1: a weapons charge and twenty five thousand for obstruction of justice. 601 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 1: We all have our lives and we don't see what 602 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 1: goes on behind closed doors. The stigma is there and 603 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: they're gonna have to carry it the rest of their lives. 604 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 1: Police say they found a bullet in Yarborough's bedroom on 605 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 1: Tuesday and blood on his shirt, but ultimately they found 606 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 1: Karen Yarborough's body in a rural Dorchester County. All kind 607 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 1: of shaking our heads and we feel bad for what's happened. 608 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 1: And you know, Karen was a sweet, just beautiful woman. 609 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 1: She really was. And tonight, Deputy say Stan Yarborough isn't. 610 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,799 Speaker 1: The Dorchester County Detention Center is expected to go before 611 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,800 Speaker 1: a judge on December sixteen. That was w civ's Brodie 612 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,760 Speaker 1: Heart talking with a long time friend of the family, 613 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 1: Kin Bowman. And right now I'm looking at a photo 614 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:11,359 Speaker 1: of their home and what strikes me about it is 615 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 1: it's so well kept and it's got decorations, seasonal decorations 616 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:24,399 Speaker 1: all around the home. There is a flag of some sort. Oh, 617 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:29,839 Speaker 1: it looks like a Clemson flag out front. You can 618 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 1: tell It's been decorated and lovingly cared for. There's a 619 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 1: rose garden edging one side of it, and in a 620 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:42,880 Speaker 1: beautiful residential area. All the homes are very quaint looking, 621 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 1: and it goes to show that you never know what 622 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 1: is happening behind closed doors. People show you the facade 623 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 1: they want you to see, and not really what is 624 00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 1: lurking beneath. We wait as justice unfolds. Nancy Grace crime story, 625 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 1: signing off goodbye friend,