1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to One Bill's Like the podcast that is the 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: express version of our Monday to Friday program, One Bills Live, 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 1: brought to you by Kalid to Health. Instead of three hours, 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: you get thirty to forty minutes to the best Steve 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: and I have to offer with fresh content along with 6 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: our best interview of the week. Let's roll at a 7 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: Steve Tester who has been all over her fields. Kind 8 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: of unique. He was kind of a dual role players 9 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: for you, Steve, Steve a blimp, We're not even in 10 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: the stratosphere of normalcy. Thank you for joining us here 11 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: on One Bills Like Chris Brown, Steve Tester with you, 12 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: where we'll be discussing a handful of topics, including whether 13 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: Josh Allen will finish twenty twenty with the most prolific 14 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: season in team history for a quarterback. We'll ask Chargers 15 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: GM Tom to us go what convinced him to draft 16 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert sixth overall this past spring? And is there 17 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: a more hated athlete in Buffalo, Steve than Brett Hull. 18 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 1: We will discuss so, Steve, we know that Josh Allen, 19 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: for the second time this season, was named AFC Offensive 20 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: Player of the week after his second four hundred yard 21 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: passing performance of the year that came against Seattle. Obviously, 22 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,919 Speaker 1: taking a look at some of his current numbers steve 23 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: their eye opening. And I realize it's only ten games played, 24 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: but if the season ended today, he would have the 25 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: highest single season completion percentage in Bill's history at sixty 26 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 1: eight point four percent. I mean that's pretty good. Yes, 27 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: light years of where even the most optimistic fans of 28 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: Josh would have put him this year that everybody thought 29 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: he would make a jump from. It was fifty eight 30 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: almost fifty nine percent. Last year. People wanted him to 31 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: get to sixty three percent. Sixty four now he's I 32 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: would have been happy with that. Yeah. And there's been 33 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks where he's touched on seventy and 34 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: I think his best of the year was on eight, right, 35 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: so or eighty one point six star has he has 36 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: taken it to a level that even Bills fans didn't 37 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: even hope or even be optimistic that he could reach. So, um, 38 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, yeah, I think he can probably do that. 39 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 1: I think that is the question. I think he can. 40 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: And this is a team that is playing better now 41 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: than it has than it was, and more consistently. I 42 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: think they're even more dependable. And when the chips are 43 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: down and when and when the games are tighter, as 44 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 1: we saw in Arizona, Josh has risen to the occasion 45 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: in the LA game earlier in the year where they 46 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: dropped his twenty five point lead. They came back and 47 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: snatched victory out of the jaws of defeat with a 48 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: late drive. That speaks well for where they can go 49 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:47,679 Speaker 1: in tough situations during games, and coming down to the 50 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 1: last part of the season, they're gonna be a lot 51 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 1: of tough games. He already has three hundred and sixty 52 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: four pass attempts on the season, which is close to 53 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 1: that of some of the other Bills quarterbacks in team history. 54 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 1: You have put together completion percentage seasons for an entire 55 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 1: sixteen game schedule. So we know NFL teams throw a 56 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: lot more now obviously, but so Steve is of the 57 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: opinion that Josh at the end of the year can 58 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: set the record for highest single season completion percentage. What 59 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: do you think he stays around sixty eight. I will 60 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: tell you he's got to be over sixty five and 61 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: a half. That is the current record, Right, Yeah, I 62 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: think so. I think he'll. Yeah, I don't know if 63 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: he'll stay at sixty eight, but I see him beating 64 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: sixty five and a half. I think he'll do that 65 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: quite easily. So it's only fair Steve to begin our 66 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: numbers game with the following question, using three hundred pass 67 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: attempts as the qualifying number to be on this list? 68 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: Who are the four other Bills quarterbacks in the top 69 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: five all time single season completion percentage behind Josh Allen's 70 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: current sixty eight point four percent completion rate. All right, 71 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: here we go, and I'm gonna guess four quarterbacks. Jack Kemp. 72 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: Jack Kemp is not on this list. Okay, yeah, Joe 73 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: Ferguson again, No, not on this list. Kelly, Jim Kelly 74 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: is on the list. He is currently third all time 75 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: sixty four point one percent four hundred and seventy four 76 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 1: pass attempts in nineteen ninety one. And I will tell 77 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: you no one else has appeared on this list more 78 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: than once. Rob Johnson, it is not Robbed not on 79 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: this list, and I think the reason why is he 80 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 1: is under the three hundred pass attempt threshold. About blood 81 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 1: cell blods not on the list, Trent Edwards. Trent Edwards 82 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: is the record holder sixty five point five percent three 83 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy four pass attempts in two thousand and eight. 84 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: All right, so I've got so you've got the number 85 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: one and the number three guys. So you need the 86 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 1: number two guy and the number four guy on the list. 87 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: Right now, Josh will be ahead of all all four 88 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: of these guys. If he was Josh, then Trent Edwards. 89 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: Then number four is Jim. Jim. So there's somebody that's 90 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: number three and somebody that's number five, uh, three hundred 91 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: attempts over three hundred attempts. That's Fluty. It is not 92 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: Doug Fluted. I'll give you a hint. Go more recent, 93 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: h oh Tyrod Tyrod Taylor is fifth, sixty three point 94 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: seven percent completion rate three hundred eighty pass attempts in 95 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: twenty fifteen. It is not Ryan Fitzpacker. No, that is 96 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: a good guess. This guy is a little hard to 97 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: remember because he was not here very long, but he 98 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: was over three hundred pass attempts. In fact, he had 99 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: four hundred forty seven pass attempts. Really, yes, two years 100 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: or this is single season. Your kid who had four 101 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: ej It is not ej Ma out there? Uh, one 102 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: to go? Come on, you can get this guy. You 103 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 1: might you might be angry if you don't get this guy. 104 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: But I'm prying because you'll say all that makes sense 105 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: after you hear his name. Yeah, okay, I'm trying to go. 106 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 1: I'm just going down. And who's taking snaps? Uh? And 107 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: I know there's somebody I'm missing in recent history? Is 108 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: it recent as a recent guy? Like it's recent? Yeah, 109 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 1: it's in the last six seasons? Wow? Who was here 110 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: right before Tyrod? It's like Fitz wasn't Well, there are 111 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 1: a couple of guys in between there. You already guessed 112 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: one incorrectly, which was EJ. It's not Cobb, it's not Kevin, 113 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: but you're right in that window. He's right in there. 114 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: Twenty fourteen, I had no idea who is it. It's 115 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: Kyle Orton, Kyle or who played here for one year 116 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: and then very unceremoniously retired after the season. I'm glad 117 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: I didn't get sixty four point two percent completion. Those 118 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: are your top five. I actually feel good about myself 119 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: that I didn't. Well, Okay, but better get that wrong. 120 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: Josh Allen Steve would also have the highest single season 121 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: passer rating for a Bill's quarterback in team history if 122 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: the season ended today with a mark of one oh 123 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: three point two. Do you think he can stay in 124 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: the one oh two to one oh seven range come 125 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: the end of the season. Yeah, I do. I think, Yeah. 126 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: This is It's for real. This passing offense is for real. 127 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: The atmosphere the league has changed to the point where 128 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: this is going to happen more and more often. So 129 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: I say, yes, I think this is this change and 130 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: this level of offenses. Who there are? So with that 131 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: in mind, there are only two quarterbacks in team history 132 00:07:56,240 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: seat who currently occupied the top five single season passer 133 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: rating years. Okay, in Bill's history, we have two guys. 134 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: One of them holds three of the five top spots. 135 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: The other quarterback holds the remaining two. I'm going can 136 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: you name those two? More? Back? Two obvious ones? Joe Ferguson, 137 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: Jim Kelly. Jim Kelly is correct for holding two of 138 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: the five spots. Okay, so he holds three, holds the 139 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: number one passer rating nineteen ninety passer rating of one 140 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: on one point two, and he holds the third spot 141 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: in ninety one, ninety seven point six passer holds three others. 142 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: The other guy holds the remaining three, the second best, 143 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: the fourth best, and the fifth best. And it is 144 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: not Joe Ferguson, Jack Kemp, and they are quick on 145 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 1: the buscher in there. It is not Jack Kemper. Come on, 146 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: Jack high passer rating for three years and yes, for 147 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: three different seasons. It's not Jack Kemp, and they were 148 00:08:57,679 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: for It's not Joe Ferguson or Jack Kenno. And they 149 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: were all in succession these three seasons, three consecutive years 150 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: to rank second, fourth, and fifth in Bill's history. Single 151 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 1: season passera Bledson, it's not Drew bledsoe he was two 152 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: three oh four, So that was a good guess. But no, 153 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: not not at the top. You want to know why 154 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: Drew wasn't at the top. He took a lot of sacks. Yeah, 155 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 1: and that hurts your passer. Oh, well, that's what Rob 156 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,559 Speaker 1: Johnson did too. Ye, Rob Johnson, he wasn't here. He's 157 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: not Robber. I don't know if he played three straight 158 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: seasons enough of the time, right he was, he was 159 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 1: in he was in the training room more than he 160 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 1: was on the field three seasons in succession. Yeah, that 161 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: I was trying to help you with that, but I 162 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: don't know that I'm helping you all that much. It's Fitz. 163 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: It is not fits. But that's a good guess. I'll 164 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: give you two more guesses and then I'll let you 165 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: off the hook, or one more three And there were 166 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: three three consecutive season. It ends up being second highest 167 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: single season passer rating year and team history for a quarterback, 168 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: fourth and fifth. This guy's got three of the top 169 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: five right now. Now, Josh, how long was Flutie here? 170 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 1: Flutie was here long enough, but he is not the 171 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,959 Speaker 1: correct answer. I didn't guess Flutie. I asked how long 172 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: he was here? Yeah, he was here. It doesn't count 173 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: three seasons. He was here till oh oh one. Yeah, 174 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: they was gone. An it's not raw, it's not Rob 175 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:39,079 Speaker 1: Johnson's nine. I do not know. It's a conservative quarterback. 176 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:45,559 Speaker 1: Tyrod Tyrod high Rod Taylor twenty fifteen, ninety nine point 177 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: four passer rating twenty sixteen, eighty nine point seven passer 178 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: rating twenty seventeen, eighty nine point two passer ratten Man, 179 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: How bad is it? Steve that eighty nine makes the 180 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: top five for passer rating for Bill's quarterback It's all time, 181 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: ain't that? It's disappointed hard too, because you know, you 182 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: get into these where it wasn't a throwing league, and 183 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: you'd go out here in a snowstorm where his twenty 184 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: degrees and sideways rain and the older quarterbacks threw a 185 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: lot more picks than we see now, and that crushes 186 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: your Yeah, that crushes your pass ray. So you get it, 187 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: all right, the last single season quarterbacks stead in Bill's history. 188 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: We're gonna look at Steve is touchdown to interception ratio 189 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: right now. Alan has the third best touchdown to interception 190 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: ratio at three to one. Right, So there are four 191 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: Bills quarterbacks in the current top five for single season 192 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: touchdown to interception ratio. Who do you think they are? Tyrod? 193 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: Tyrod is one, He's got three of the top five. 194 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:49,319 Speaker 1: He doesn't throw picks. Three touchdowns to zero ratio, okay, Tyrod? 195 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: Jim Jim, Yes, one more. This guy's actually tied with Jim. 196 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 1: So Jim did in nineteen ninety two point six seven 197 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: to one ratio. This guy, what what year was this guy? Well, 198 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: if I give you the year, you'll know but this 199 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: guy tied him at two point six seven to one 200 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: touchdown to interception ratio. Rob. He's not Rock. I got 201 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: a lot of faith in Rob. You know he got 202 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: a contract first, you know. Yeah, I figure he had 203 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: a flash us to stay on my heel. Oh my god, 204 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 1: it ain't Fits. I know that's not Fits. Definitely not fits. Um. Yeah, Orton, 205 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:34,959 Speaker 1: not Kyle Orton. You've guessed this guy already today on 206 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: the bloodsoe not Bless. I've guessed him already. Yeah, he's 207 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: one of the guys. He guessed EJ and one of 208 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: these categories. No, I'll give it to you. It is 209 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: Doug Fluting. Oh really two thousand, season two thousand, two 210 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: point six seven to one. So Josh currently, uh, actually, 211 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: I have to correct my figures. I didn't update him 212 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: from the last game. Josh's two point two two to 213 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 1: one touched down to interception ratio right now. Do you 214 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: think he can get to three and a half to 215 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: one by the end of the season, because that's Tyrod's 216 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: figure at the top of this list twenty seventeen three 217 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: and a half to one touchdown to interception ratio. He 218 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: was there for a while. He was he was way 219 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: above it, and then this last game against Arizona brought 220 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: him back under three to one. I'm going to take 221 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 1: a quick look at the schedule moving forward. He got 222 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: the Chargers, Niners, Steelers, Broncos past. I'm gonna say, no, no, 223 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:32,959 Speaker 1: he doesn't get there. Okay, Yeah, I think that's a 224 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: little bit of a hill to climb. Yeah, I think 225 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: he'd have to go. He'd have to. All you need 226 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 1: is one bad game and it drops. He's precipitous, right, 227 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: He's had a stretch like last year. He's gone through 228 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: stretches where he's like twelve to two. You know. Yeah, 229 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 1: he would need to go on a tear like that 230 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: again exactly get there, because he was sixteen touchdowns, four picks. 231 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 1: He was four to one at one point this year. 232 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: I mean he was ripping it. Yeah. Yeah, so yeah, 233 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 1: I think it'll be tough. That's probably the toughest one 234 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: to come out of this season with. I think he 235 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 1: gets passer rating. I think he gets m The other 236 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: one that we did which was completion percentage, I think 237 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:10,839 Speaker 1: he gets those. I think that's because he's got to 238 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: he can hang on and play like like those. This 239 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 1: one he's got to dig out of a little bit 240 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: of a hole. Yeah, I don't think. I don't think 241 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 1: that's something you can count on. All right. That is 242 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: our latest edition of the Numbers Game time Now for 243 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: our guest this week, it's the general manager of the 244 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: Los Angeles Chargers, Tom Tolesco. We talked with the personnel 245 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: boss of the Chargers about him being a Hamburg, New 246 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: York native, his new franchise quarterback, and on the transition 247 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: to their new stadium. Chargers GM Tom Tallesco a Hamburg, 248 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: New York native as many people know. Tom. First of all, 249 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: how is the family and everybody getting through this pandemic 250 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: right now? Everybody good? I appreciate it. Yeah, yeah, the 251 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: family is doing well. Um, you know, our kids are 252 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: in school, not not all week for the release, are 253 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: in school right now, and you know we're just trying 254 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: to handle it like everybody. But yeah, else right now? 255 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: How has the adjustment and the protocols for the NFL. Uh? 256 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: You know affected you guys. I know you guys are 257 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: in a new facility, I guess, I mean you're not 258 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: in You're not in San Diego anymore. You're just trying 259 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: to get your you know, feet in the door. Of 260 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: the new stadium and all this and now they got 261 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: this dropped on. Yeah, how has that adjustment affected you 262 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: guys ability to get on the field and play. Yeah, 263 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: I mean it's affected everybody in the league. Um, but 264 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: it's been a huge challenge. I mean, and it's every day, 265 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: um to try and follow the protocols and in the 266 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: middle of that, trying to get ready for an NFL game. Um. 267 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: But uh yeah, between the testing and trying to keep 268 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: people physically distant, you know, with between you know, our 269 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: players and coaches, they're together all day long. So um, 270 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: at this point, we're all virtual meetings to get people 271 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: out of the building, keep people separated. Um, it's a 272 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: different way to prepare for a football game. But at 273 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: this point, you know, we're all on the same same protocols, 274 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: same rules, But we're trying to keep everybody safe, keep 275 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: us safe, keep the coaches and players safe, and still 276 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: be able to do our jobs. And you know, i'd 277 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: say on average, you know, the league's done pretty well. 278 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: We know the numbers are going up across the country. 279 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: I think our numbers are gonna probably gonna go up 280 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: just based on society. But we're trying to do the 281 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: best we can. And Tom, I mean I'm not telling 282 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: you anything that you don't know, but Tom Pella Sero 283 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: from NFL Network was just reporting about some of the 284 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: alterations coach Lynn is making this week with respect to 285 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: special teams duties. Um, just your thoughts about maybe going 286 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: forward now and trying to make the special teams unit 287 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: a better one. Yeah, we're just trying. You know, we've 288 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: been struggling and that that that phase of the game 289 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: for a number of weeks. So just trying to look 290 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: for ways to get better. So we made some changes 291 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: there and um, you know, it's been an uptill client 292 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: for us as a football team this year as you 293 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: can as you can tell by the record at three 294 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: and seven. So, um, to try and do what we 295 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: can do to get better. Right now, Well, we've watched 296 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: with the whole country in amazement. As on the spur 297 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: of the moment when it began, Justin Herbert took over 298 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: for Tyrod and we thought, man it it's gonna be catastrophic. 299 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: I mean, this guy's gonna get chewed up and spit out. 300 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 1: It didn't happen. Justin Herbert has been sensational. What how 301 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 1: was it? Luck was it. Well, what did you see 302 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: in Justin Herbert? Because there were three guys maybe four 303 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,640 Speaker 1: ahead of him in the draft, you know, the process, 304 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 1: and people thought, I don't know if he's the right guy, 305 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 1: if he's gonna do it? Was he like Oregon? What's it? 306 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: What did you see in Justin Herbert? How did he 307 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 1: become a charger? And you know how fast did you 308 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 1: know he was gonna be this good? Well? Yeah, we 309 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: were lucky in this year's draft because it was a 310 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: heavy quarterback draft with a lot of talented players. But no, like, 311 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: he's as you said, he stepped in against Kansas City 312 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:50,199 Speaker 1: without I mean literally seconds before kickoff and stepped in, 313 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: and really it's just taken off from there. And you know, 314 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: he has a lot of physical ability. I mean he's big, 315 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 1: he's athletic, he's strong, and then as a quarterback, he's 316 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: a big arm. You know, it's I wouldn't say it, 317 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: it's not Josh Allen strong, but it's it's pretty darn strong. 318 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 1: He's been accurate the football, anti has anticipation skills and 319 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 1: ballplay has been has been really really good. And you know, 320 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 1: it's been a good combination of it's a talented player. 321 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: He's got great intangibles and work ethic and a drive 322 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: to be great. And and then you know, and then 323 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: this coaching, you know, coaching and player development between Anthony 324 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: Lynn and Shane Styke and our offensive coordinator and Pet Hamilton, 325 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 1: our quarterback coach. So trying to get him up to 326 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 1: speed and get him ready to go. And it's so 327 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 1: it's been a group effort, but he's been impressive. He's 328 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 1: kept us in games, and it couldn't be more happy 329 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: about him right now. Yeah, And I wanted to ask 330 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: you Tom about Shane Styke and the offensive coordinator. I mean, 331 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 1: he was given that role permanently, you know, this year 332 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: after he inherited it halfway through the season last year. 333 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 1: What was so convincing about the job he did last year? 334 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: And then how has he kind of worked with the 335 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: rookie quarterback this season, because I mean it's I mean, 336 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 1: the numbers are through the roof. Yeah, you know, he's 337 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,199 Speaker 1: very adaptable and flexible, and you have to work to 338 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,199 Speaker 1: what your personality has or which what you what you have, 339 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: what you have in your personnel, and that that changes 340 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: on week to week basis just based on injuries and 341 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 1: even this year it's based on COVID. You're not always 342 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 1: sure who you're gonna have week to week. So, um, 343 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 1: he's a good offensive mind, comes from a very good background. 344 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 1: He came up the right way and um, you know, 345 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: he showed that last year. We had a lot of 346 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: confidence in him last year, but when he took over 347 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 1: the job, he showed it to us. And um, if 348 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 1: let's continued on this year, and you know, we put 349 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: them in a difficult situation. It's a rookie quarterback. It's 350 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 1: no offseason program, no preseason games, and the thought that 351 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: that Tyboy Taylor would be our quarterback to start the year. 352 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: Obviously that changed in week week two. Um, but Justin 353 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: has taken a job and run with it and it's 354 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: been a good combination for everybody involved. And as always, 355 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: it's not all about COVID. When you when you got 356 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 1: an injury to Austin Eckler and it looks like he's 357 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: been and I can only imagine how bad his hammy 358 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 1: was to be out for so long. But getting him 359 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: back on the field, certainly he may not be, there 360 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,360 Speaker 1: may be a little rust on him, but getting him 361 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: back on the field's gotta give you guys, a little 362 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,959 Speaker 1: bit at least of an emotional boost, if not a 363 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 1: pretty good boost in production as well. Yeah, I mean 364 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: he'll he'll start some practice this week. You know, I 365 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: don't know what it means for you know, a game 366 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 1: wise coming up. But like I said, it was it 367 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: was a different type of hamstring. It wasn't your typical 368 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 1: sprinting down field and strain your hamstring. It was it 369 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,199 Speaker 1: was more serious than that. But now he brings a 370 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 1: dynamic to our offense that he just can't duplicate. Because 371 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 1: every time he touched the ball, he can take it 372 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: the distance for a touchdown. He's so explosive both as 373 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 1: a runner and as a receiver out of the backfield. 374 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,439 Speaker 1: Gives us speed and juice in our run game. UM. 375 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: So yeah, so he'll be a huge a boost when 376 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 1: he does come back. I'm not sure when that will be, Um, 377 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: but he has hard to duplicate guys with that type 378 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 1: of skill. Um. He's done a great job to kind 379 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: of work his way back from this. We'll kind of 380 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: see where it goes. I want to I want to 381 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: hit the rewind button a little bit and just go 382 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: back to draft weekend if we can, Tom, because I 383 00:20:56,359 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: found the draft approach for your entire division pretty fascinating, 384 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 1: Like the Broncos and the Raiders pretty much determined they 385 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 1: needed to invest in speed and high end receiving talent 386 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 1: in what seemed like an effort to keep up with 387 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 1: Kansas City. Um, even though you added a couple of 388 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,959 Speaker 1: receivers later in the draft, you know you had receiver 389 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: talent on your roster already, you had other priorities. But 390 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 1: what was your review looking back on how the rest 391 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 1: of the division reacted to the success that the Chiefs 392 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: had last year. Well, they're they're a team to be obviously, 393 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:35,479 Speaker 1: they've won the division number years in a row, when 394 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,959 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. So you know, when you're building your 395 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: football team, you are looking how you match up with 396 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: your other teams in your division. Um, so you do 397 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 1: look to build that way, but you also remember that 398 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:46,400 Speaker 1: you know, we need to build our team as well 399 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:47,919 Speaker 1: to make them match up with us. So it's kind 400 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: of a double edged sword. UM. But yeah, our division 401 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: is uh, it's it's tough. You know. We got Kansas City, 402 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 1: we got the la Um, the got the oak I 403 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: keep calling the Oakland Raiders that like people used to 404 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 1: cause the Vegas Raiders and then Denver's come along. Denver, 405 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 1: as you said, it's very fast on offense, so difficult division. 406 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 1: And you know, as we build it, we try and 407 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 1: look to see where we match up. But like I said, 408 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: it goes both ways with that. What has Anthony Lynn's 409 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: message been to his team? I know that when you're 410 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 1: sitting there losing a game. I was. I went back 411 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,199 Speaker 1: today and watched the Denver game you guys had in 412 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: Denver where you were lumping them up and somehow, some 413 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: way they fight back and beat you with an extra point. 414 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: What's Anthony Lynn? How have has he done during this 415 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,199 Speaker 1: time when the team's playing so well and is not 416 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: getting rewarded for it. Yeah. Well, he's a great leader. 417 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: He's got a great presence about him. He keeps him 418 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: focus on the game at hand. And you know we've 419 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: had three three games that should we lost in the 420 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:45,679 Speaker 1: last play of the game, you know, it could be 421 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: the difference between three and seven and six and four. 422 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: You know, who knows, But you know we've had some 423 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: situations here in the past. I know Anthony's first year 424 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 1: we started off very slow. It was a first year 425 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: moving from San Diego. It is a difficult position to 426 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 1: be in, and then he rallied this team back and 427 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: we made a huge run. So but you know, you 428 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 1: just had some really unique leadership skills which you have 429 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 1: to have in the head coach's job, especially in situations 430 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: like this where things have not gone as we had planned, 431 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 1: and the players respond to him, the players believe in him. 432 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: That's why we think that this last six games and 433 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 1: we're going to take them one at a time, but 434 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: we still think, we still think we can finish strong. 435 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 1: Right now talking to Chargers GM, Tom to LESCo here, 436 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 1: and you know, justin Herbert's state of readiness Tom for 437 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: the NFL game is probably what has grabbed people the 438 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: most by surprise in terms of his success. You know, 439 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: for outside observers that aren't seeing him every day in 440 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:46,360 Speaker 1: practice like you are. I don't know that the Oregon 441 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: offensive system really ever put his full athletic ability on display. 442 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: So how did you guys kind of do your due 443 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: diligence in confirming he was the kind of quarterback that 444 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: had the necessary mobility to kind of extend plays and 445 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 1: make them off script when necessary, which seems like a 446 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: required quality in the league these days for a quarterback. Yeah, 447 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 1: there's there's no doubt. It's like putting a puzzle together. 448 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: And it's not just with quarterbacks. It's not just with 449 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: Justin with it's with everybody you draft. So when we're 450 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 1: looking at college players, we're trying to project them to 451 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 1: the NFL level. Um. And you know, with Justin obviously 452 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: four year starter in college, so we had a lot 453 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: of background, a lot of work to do on him, 454 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 1: just tape wise, Um, you just try and put the 455 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:36,880 Speaker 1: pieces together. You may not see him do everything he'll 456 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:38,239 Speaker 1: do at this level, but if you see it once 457 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: or choice, you know it's in there. And uh, look 458 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 1: for Oregon's offense. You know, they moved to football, they 459 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 1: scored points. Uh, they won the Patrol Championship, they won 460 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: the Rose Bowl. Um, so what they were doing worked 461 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: for them. Um. But as scouting the player, we're trying 462 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: to look at everything we can. Tape wise, we washed him. 463 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 1: You know, the Rose Bowl, they played him a little 464 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: bit differently. He was at the Senior Bowl and we 465 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: could see a little bit more. But you know, we 466 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 1: knew he was a good athlete. We knew he could 467 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: fit the system that we want to run. And then 468 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 1: everything else is just about a lot of it about 469 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: it's just his work ethic. He's a perfectionist. He wants 470 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: to be great. And usually those guys they get better. 471 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: They developed. Now he's developed faster than than maybe we 472 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 1: had anticipated. Um, but those guys get better that they 473 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: have the football intelligence and the work ethic and they're 474 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: right coaching around them. We marveled, and we were to 475 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: Steve and I were talking about it on the show 476 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 1: this week, Tom how much his numbers quite quite literally 477 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: mirror those of Josh. And I mean much has been 478 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: made of Josh's progress here in year three with the 479 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: bills and the big step that he has taken. Justine's 480 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 1: doing this as a rookie. His numbers are almost identical 481 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: to that of Josh Allen and he's played one fewer 482 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 1: game than Josh. So I mean, we've got him on 483 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,360 Speaker 1: our screen for our MSG viewers right now. I mean 484 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: it's almost a carbon copy. Um. It's just it's uncanny 485 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 1: that Herbert is Herbert's game is this advanced when it 486 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: took Josh about three years to get there. Well that's 487 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 1: all great, But the biggest status the one at the bottom. 488 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: So that's the one, that's the one we're working on 489 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, the quarterback is very important. He 490 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 1: touched the ball if you play, but it's about the 491 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: team and look where we're really really happy with Justin, 492 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: with how he's how he's developed. Um, you know for 493 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,919 Speaker 1: a young player. Um, and just watching Josh, you know, 494 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: watching them, watching you guys in the last couple of weeks, Um, 495 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: he has just been outstanding. Watching him play, It's like 496 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: watching Josh Allen in the pocket is like watching like 497 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: the varsity versus the jv is as the pass rushers 498 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 1: come around and he's just swapping him around, pushing him around. Um, 499 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: he's so big and strong. I mean he runs the 500 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 1: ball like you're running back. And then you know, his 501 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 1: arm strength is unbelievable and he's got great touch on 502 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 1: the ball and and uh, obviously the receivers that Bills 503 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,439 Speaker 1: have are really good too, and they go deep with 504 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 1: that group. So he's got a lot of talent around 505 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: him and he hasn't be a tough challenge for us 506 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: this week. One thing I've watched Justin Herbert do is 507 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: your offensive lines had some injuries, and it doesn't seem 508 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 1: like that has bothered him. His athleticism has helped him 509 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: in that. You guys have had to shuffle your offensive line. 510 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 1: Can you speak to that about how you know you've 511 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,199 Speaker 1: how concerning is it to you going forward? Certainly like 512 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: everybody healthy, How has your depth been in the offensive line? 513 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 1: And how impressed have you been with Herbert and his 514 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: ability to like just to overcome that on the offensive side. Yeah, 515 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 1: you know, it was interesting during training camp. You know, 516 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: his first couple of weeks of training camp, he was 517 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 1: really lighting up the defense. So we tried to make 518 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: it a little bit more challenging for him, and he 519 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 1: had a couple of rough, rough practices. But the one 520 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 1: thing he did in training camp, it didn't matter if 521 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 1: there was five, six, seven, eight people coming at him, 522 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,360 Speaker 1: He stood in the pocket, never looked at the rush, 523 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 1: and made throw us downfield. But the one thing we 524 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: didn't know is it's practice because and you can't hit 525 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 1: the quarterback during practice, So can you do this in 526 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: a live situation in the NFL? We didn't have a 527 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 1: preseason game to know that, so we didn't even know 528 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: this till really against against Kansas City. Essentially, is you know, 529 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,880 Speaker 1: can he still be that same guy when you don't 530 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: have essentially a red jersey on and he just has 531 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: a great feel in the pocket to kind of move 532 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: shuffley to left or right, maybe stuff up in the pocket, 533 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: find an open throwing lane and make throws. And you know, 534 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: a lot of that is just natural ability and a 535 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,959 Speaker 1: lot of that's just practice and work at it, and 536 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: he's showing the abilities to do that. We've got a 537 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: couple more starters back in the offensive line last week, 538 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: so that's good to see. But now he's been able 539 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: to handle the rush and handled the amount of pressure 540 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:36,880 Speaker 1: and blitz his people are brought against us very well 541 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: for a young player. Talking to Chargers GM, Tom to 542 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: LESCo and two guys on the defensive side of the ball, Tom, 543 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: I want to get your thoughts on the one guy 544 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: that you traded up for in the first round, Ken 545 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 1: Murray Junior, who just looked like a fantastic run and 546 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: hit type athlete just looking at his college tape going 547 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 1: into the draft. Just his level of progress here in 548 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 1: his rookie season. And then guy that's kind of flashed 549 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: here that's kind of flown under the radar, Mike Davis, 550 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 1: the corner. Just the game that he has brought to 551 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: the table this season. It looks like he's made an 552 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: awful lot of progress with his game. Yes, Michael's come 553 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: a long way. Michael was an undrafted free agent from 554 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: b YU and he's just each year taking a bigger step. 555 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: And now he's, you know, he's a legitimate starting corner 556 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: in this league. He's got long arms, and he runs 557 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: very well, and he's had a nice year for us. 558 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: And then who's the other player mentioned, Oh Kenny Murray. 559 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, yeah, Kenny. He's been Uh, like he said, 560 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: he's a running, hit player and very physical, big fast, 561 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: and you know, we've kind of put him in a 562 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: position where he's the quarterback of the defense, which is, uh, 563 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 1: it's difficult. I'm young players. I mean, right now we've 564 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: got a you know, rookie quarterback on one side and 565 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: really you know a rookie linebacker that's making all the 566 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: calls on defense. Um, you know, and especially not having 567 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: Derwin James out there has kind of changed some things 568 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: how how we get lined up. And so he's been 569 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: putting some tough positions, but he's handled it well. And 570 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 1: for how young he is, he's very mature, loves to 571 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: play the game, great, great work ethic and I think 572 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: we're gonna see really big stries from him as we 573 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 1: moved forward this year and then for the rest of 574 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: his career. Yeah, it's kind of interesting because what you're 575 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: going through now is exactly what the Bills did in 576 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 1: uh what was a twenty eighteen. You know, they had 577 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback and they had Tremaine Edmonds calling all 578 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: the stuff on the defensive side of the ball at 579 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: the linebacker position. And it's kind of funny because their 580 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 1: body types are almost a little similar. Murray's kind of 581 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: that long, lanky guy too, it seems at least that's 582 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: how he looks on TV. Yeah, very very similar players. 583 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 1: Probably probably remains a little bit taller, but but similar 584 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: players and both young when they came out of college too. Right, 585 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 1: last one that I've got for you, Tom is playing 586 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: in these largely empty stadiums, and in the new one 587 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: that you guys are playing in, it's got to be cavernous. 588 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: I mean that that is a huge facility. We've talked 589 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: to some of the players here about how it's different, 590 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 1: and especially the defensive players. Tom have said sometimes when 591 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: we need that juice from the crowd on a third 592 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 1: down or something, it's not there, and we have to 593 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 1: manufacture it and get it from each other. I'm wondering 594 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 1: if your players have expressed some of those same things 595 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 1: and what they've done to try to overcome it. Well, yes, 596 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 1: I mean it's a it's an experience like like none 597 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: none other. I mean the first game, our opener against 598 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: the Bengals, and it was an away game, but it 599 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: felt like a scrimmage. You know, without anybody in the stands. 600 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 1: You hear every whistle, you hear every pad that that hits, 601 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: you hear interactions between coaches and players, and players and coaches, 602 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: and um, it's just a different it's a different field. 603 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 1: So you do have to bring your own energy. Um. 604 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: You know, there are some positives. I mean, you can 605 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: get some coaching from the sideline and you can scream 606 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: out to wherever you need to get them lined up 607 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: in the in the correct spot. But it's different, it 608 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: really is, and it's it's it's hard to get used to, 609 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 1: but it's going to help us this weekend going to 610 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: Buffalo to not have that crowd behind them. So for us, 611 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 1: it is a big advantage this week to play the 612 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 1: Bills in a silent stadium. Because there's there's you know, 613 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: probably no harder place to play to go playing for 614 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 1: an eighty thousand Bills fans, and especially the way the 615 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 1: Bills are playing right now, so at LEASTA makes it 616 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 1: an even playing field for us. Last thing, I go 617 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 1: just we just heard before we came out, and I'm 618 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: sure you knew it probably before we did, that the 619 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: Steelers and the Ravens game has been moved from Thanksgiving 620 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 1: to Sunday. It's been the first game that's been adjusted 621 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: for weeks ever since back in the day when Tennessee 622 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 1: had the outbreak early in the season, they kind of 623 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: put the lid on that it's been a player here, 624 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: a player there. How, given where we were, like say, 625 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 1: four months ago, back in July, June and July, when 626 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 1: they didn't know, how unbelievable is it that the league 627 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 1: has been able to keep this on track and keep 628 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: it rolling, knowing that they didn't do it in a bubble, 629 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: And I just think it maybe in the in the 630 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: calendar of the sports, this may be one of the 631 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: great accomplishments the NFL has ever done. If they can 632 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: indeed get to the Super Bowl and do it on schedule, 633 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,959 Speaker 1: How how likely is it, I guess I'll ask you that. 634 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: But also, how impressive is it that they've even got 635 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: this far? Well, I think you hit on the head. 636 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:21,959 Speaker 1: I think it's impressive that we've been able to do 637 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: this without being in a bubble. It would be hard 638 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: for the NFL to do this like the NBAUM and 639 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: get it in a real bubble. So they do it 640 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: like this with the protocols, and look they've we've adjusted 641 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: these protocols from August till now. I mean, I can't 642 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: tell you how many memos they have a stack over 643 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 1: here that almost a new one comes out every Monday. 644 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 1: As far as changing up how we're going to handle this, 645 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 1: which we have to because we're learning more and more 646 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 1: about the virus, you know, the longer we get into this. 647 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 1: So it's been incredible they get to where we are now. 648 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: But this is gonna be the most difficult test right now. 649 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: I mean that the numbers across the country are going up, 650 00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: so I think obviously our numbers are going to increase 651 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 1: a little bit. But you know, between us following the protocols, 652 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: keeping away from each other, we wear these contact tracers. 653 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,760 Speaker 1: I know all the bills do as well to remind 654 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 1: us of that. Our testing every day helps and really 655 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 1: the biggest thing is make sure everybody's honest. If you 656 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,879 Speaker 1: feel anything, if it feels sick, you stay home. And 657 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: it's our job as as a front office to have 658 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 1: the team ready to play. And it maybe and we 659 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 1: saw it last week or two weeks ago with Dane 660 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 1: Jackson coming up and starting for the Bills and actually 661 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 1: played really really well, good player. So you have to 662 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 1: build a deep team. You have to coach everybody, you 663 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 1: have to be ready to go. So between the teams 664 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 1: and the league office handling this, it's been impressive. But 665 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: this this next month and a half is going to 666 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 1: be difficult, but hopefully we have things in place we 667 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 1: can get through and play these games and have the playoffs. Tom, 668 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: thanks man, it's great seeing you. A good luck and 669 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 1: thanks for coming on with us and taking a minute 670 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 1: to share it with us. Yeah, anytime. Thanks for having on, guys, 671 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 1: we appreciate the time, especially during a holiday week. And 672 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: please thank your wife for starting that jewelry company Charming Newport, 673 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,839 Speaker 1: because I got three easy gimme birth Christmas gifts from 674 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 1: my wife. She bought him for herself and handed them 675 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 1: to me. So please thank your wife for doing that. 676 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Thanks for the plug, Brownie, appreciate it. Thanks, yeah, 677 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 1: you too, all right. Always good to catch up with 678 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 1: one of the solid gms in the league, Tom Telesco. 679 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 1: He's got a good roster. You were making some comparisons 680 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 1: on the show this week, Steve, how strikingly comparable. Their 681 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 1: numbers in a lot of areas are to that of 682 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 1: the Bills, and yet their records are complete opposites of 683 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 1: each other. But I think that's a Chargers team we're 684 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 1: gonna be hearing more from in twenty twenty one. Right now, 685 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: we look at an offensive defensive matchup called Something's Gotta Give. Okay, So, Steve, 686 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 1: the Chargers are the third best passing offense in football. 687 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 1: Bills are the fourth. LA has the most fifty plus 688 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,760 Speaker 1: yard plays in the league, with six so far this season, 689 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:02,319 Speaker 1: demonstrating Justin Herbert's deep ball passing ability. The Bills have 690 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: no such plays, nothing over fifty yards, but they do 691 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 1: lead the league in pass plays of twenty yards or 692 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,759 Speaker 1: more forty one of them. So looking at these two defenses, 693 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:16,760 Speaker 1: this week, Steve, Buffalo tied for fifth in most fifty 694 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 1: plus yard plays given up in the league, they've given 695 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 1: up three. Chargers defense has also given up three. So 696 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 1: when giving up plays of twenty yards or more, Bills 697 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 1: defense is given up the sixth most thirty eight, Chargers 698 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 1: have given up the ninth most thirty five. Which team 699 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 1: ends this game making more big plays in the passing game? 700 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 1: I will say I'd give it to Buffalo. You say 701 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 1: they make more big plays in the passing game, Okay, 702 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 1: I think this is a game where they could make 703 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 1: that happen, particularly given West Coast key team coming east 704 00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 1: for the second straight week, by the way, and they 705 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:00,799 Speaker 1: were just with the Jets at Medlife, And I just 706 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 1: think this is a Bills team that's coming off the bye. 707 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna have some wrinkles. Yeah, So I'm 708 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 1: saying I would give Buffalo the edge, and just as 709 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,920 Speaker 1: a general rule going forward this week, and I just 710 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,359 Speaker 1: think I give Buffalo the edge in most categories leading 711 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 1: up to the game because they're coming off the bye week. Yeah, 712 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 1: I'm kind of with you on the bye. Mcdermot's undefeated 713 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 1: coming off the bye. I think they really drilled down 714 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 1: on some things and I believe that Day will with 715 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:30,320 Speaker 1: the extra time to prepare, will be ready, locked and loaded. 716 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 1: And Gus Bradley with this defense has had some issues 717 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 1: at times. They get a little leaky here, a little 718 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 1: leaky there. You don't know what's going to crop up. 719 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 1: They can't protect leads with their defense. So yeah, I'm 720 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 1: kind of with you on that. So I'm kind of 721 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:45,839 Speaker 1: leaning that way. That doesn't mean that I don't think 722 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 1: the Chargers are going to be good. I think they are. 723 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,800 Speaker 1: I think they're a really good football team. And you 724 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 1: have to drill down pretty deep to find out, you know, 725 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,400 Speaker 1: why are they three and seven and not seven and 726 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,799 Speaker 1: three like the Bills. Yeah, all right, we will move 727 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 1: forward then after covering that, as we wrap up this 728 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 1: week's podcast here on One Bill's Light with one burning question. 729 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 1: I still got to get the guys to give me 730 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 1: the echo of fifty. So this week's question, Steve, is 731 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 1: there a more hated athlete in Buffalo than Brett Hull? 732 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 1: For those that don't know, Brett Hull is the guy 733 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 1: that scored the game winning goal for the Dallas Stars 734 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 1: in the nineteen ninety nine Stanley Cup Finals against the 735 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,880 Speaker 1: Buffalo Sabers. Did it here in Buffalo in Game six 736 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 1: in triple overtime, and it was a controversial goal because 737 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 1: his foot was in the crease and there was a 738 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,720 Speaker 1: rule that said, if your foot is in the crease 739 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,759 Speaker 1: and you score a goal, it does not count. But 740 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,400 Speaker 1: the refs allowed the goal, and a short time later, 741 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,920 Speaker 1: the Dallas Stars are skating around the ice in Buffalo 742 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,120 Speaker 1: with the standard that end of the game on a 743 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 1: goal that one hundred and fifty three times during the 744 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 1: regular season would have been disallowed. But on the one 745 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 1: goal where the cup is in the bound is the 746 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:05,319 Speaker 1: impresstige of the entire NHL in the balance? They sold out? Yeah, 747 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,840 Speaker 1: just give it to him. It is otherwise known in 748 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:11,239 Speaker 1: Buffalo as no goal. And so because of that, Brett Hull, 749 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 1: even as late as I want to say, twenty seventeen, 750 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:19,800 Speaker 1: was in Buffalo and was booed unceremoniously just for seeing 751 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:24,280 Speaker 1: his face on the jumbo tron in the arena. Booed. Yeah. 752 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,719 Speaker 1: As far as being the most hated, but is he 753 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 1: the most hated athlete in Buffalo? That is the question here. 754 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,279 Speaker 1: You don't think so, So who tops him? I have 755 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,840 Speaker 1: some suggestions, Tom Brady top said. I was one of 756 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 1: the suggestions. If you're talking about athletes, Tom Brady, I 757 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 1: would say at one point, maybe not so much now 758 00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 1: Brian Cox Senior. Yeah, football wise, let's see. Do you 759 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,920 Speaker 1: think Dan Marino is on that list anywhere? I think 760 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,719 Speaker 1: there's a level of respect for Dan, plus he spent 761 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,360 Speaker 1: some time. Does you guys beat him more than he 762 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:59,120 Speaker 1: beat you? So let's say, yeah, this is it's interesting. 763 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 1: Hold on a minute, now this is you get into it. 764 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 1: I would say probably. You know, there's some who probably 765 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 1: never come to Buffalo, like Troy Aikman. Do you think 766 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 1: he's hated because of the Super Bowls? Yeah? Maybe. Do 767 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,319 Speaker 1: you think Michael Irvin's more hated than Troy Aikman? I 768 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:16,600 Speaker 1: think so, just because of his um. I think the 769 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:20,359 Speaker 1: Michael Irvin swagger is not asked for it though, well 770 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 1: he does kind of kind of plays to it. Yeah, 771 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,759 Speaker 1: but I would say, yeah, Brett Hall is probably in 772 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 1: the top five. Do you think Deshaun Watson gets on 773 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 1: this list after last year's playoff game and what he did? 774 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe if that's enough, that's not enough, 775 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,760 Speaker 1: just a wild card game. But usually it's those guys 776 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 1: that kill this that kill the Buffalo Sports teams in 777 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,759 Speaker 1: the playoffs that are clearly the most hated, which is 778 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 1: why it's so interesting that Brady would probably be at 779 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 1: the top of this list. But I think that's just 780 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,280 Speaker 1: that it's just the time and again, you know, whack 781 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,360 Speaker 1: a mole, knock you down again and again and again 782 00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,279 Speaker 1: and again. I think Brady does it. Deshaun Watson make 783 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:01,839 Speaker 1: the list, but I don't think so, because I think 784 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:07,280 Speaker 1: this is a time, particularly now that Brady's gone and 785 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,440 Speaker 1: Deshaun wasson, you feel like, you know this is a 786 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,719 Speaker 1: team now with what's going on in Houston, the Bills 787 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,799 Speaker 1: fans would say, shoot, I want another another crack at 788 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 1: that guy, right, I would agree with you that Brady 789 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,200 Speaker 1: is number one, and I will share a personal story. 790 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 1: Two personal stories. The first one involves my son, who 791 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 1: is a died in the wild Bills fan. At age nine, 792 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 1: he had a dartboard in the basement with Tom Brady's 793 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,279 Speaker 1: face on it. Okay that that paints somewhat of the 794 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,920 Speaker 1: picture as to the hatred of Tom Brady. Here's example 795 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 1: number two from my own household. We're watching the Monday 796 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:48,880 Speaker 1: night football highlights from this past week. Yeah, Bucks and Rams. 797 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,959 Speaker 1: My wife did not see any part of the game. 798 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,120 Speaker 1: You know, she's watching her own shows on Monday night. 799 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 1: She's not wasting my time with Monday night football. But 800 00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,839 Speaker 1: I have the highlights on and she's watching them. She 801 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:04,080 Speaker 1: sees that Brady was playing last night, so she's watching them. 802 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 1: First interception, Oh good, good, I like it. Then we 803 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:10,920 Speaker 1: get down to these. She didn't know how the game ended, right, 804 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,880 Speaker 1: you know it's close game. Oh you know, you hear 805 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,959 Speaker 1: the commentator is a time for the Brady magic blah 806 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,840 Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah. Oh but he's picked off again. Yes, yes, 807 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,759 Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. I mean, if that 808 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:28,000 Speaker 1: is not the true, bitter vitriol of a Bills fan 809 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,759 Speaker 1: when it comes to hatred for Tom Brady's true and 810 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 1: that is a casual fan. That is not a you 811 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,080 Speaker 1: know what I mean, like an over the top I 812 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,719 Speaker 1: won't God God Bills fan. I won't even get into 813 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 1: specifics or anything like that. But the the conversations that 814 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:49,720 Speaker 1: in my house with four sons, who now the oldest 815 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:54,439 Speaker 1: is thirty three, the youngest or thirty two, or the 816 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:58,560 Speaker 1: youngest is twenty two. He spent almost a lifetime with 817 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:03,760 Speaker 1: Brady dealing with this. The casual conversations about Tom Brady 818 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:08,240 Speaker 1: and what he's just in passing conversation you can't repeat, 819 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:13,760 Speaker 1: and you know, they're like, it's everything he is. Yeah, 820 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,279 Speaker 1: so Brady, I think Trump's Bret Hole. But Brett Hole 821 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,799 Speaker 1: is probably still there in the top three, top five, 822 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,680 Speaker 1: somewhere in there. He's on the list, no question. But 823 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:25,440 Speaker 1: he's getting further into history. But here's the thing. At 824 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:26,640 Speaker 1: a time, and I didn't want to get into this 825 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,839 Speaker 1: at the time, but Brett plays it up a little 826 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:35,240 Speaker 1: bit too. He like, oh, he'll flashed the ring, He'll 827 00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,920 Speaker 1: talk about you don't know anything about hockey. It was 828 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:39,680 Speaker 1: a good goal. It was all this stuff, and when 829 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:46,160 Speaker 1: it was it was an absolute blatant sell out, cowardly 830 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:54,520 Speaker 1: completely caving into the moment event by the NHL. Yeah, 831 00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:58,080 Speaker 1: they totally. They went garage. Oh my gosh, it was. 832 00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:01,480 Speaker 1: It was cousin Vinny in the mirage wearing a white 833 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,440 Speaker 1: tank top T shirt on a card. Take it's all 834 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,600 Speaker 1: one in the league. That's where the that's where the 835 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,600 Speaker 1: edict came down from. It's over, get the cup. That's right, 836 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,920 Speaker 1: game's over and listen and a fairness to the stars. 837 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,399 Speaker 1: The Dallas start, they were probably the better team that year. 838 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,520 Speaker 1: But my contention is this, they didn't get a chance 839 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,520 Speaker 1: to prove it. They just awarded him the cup. Yeah, 840 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,160 Speaker 1: so they can. They can, They can celebrate it all 841 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,640 Speaker 1: they want. They just didn't earn it. Well said, that'll 842 00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,760 Speaker 1: do it for this week's edition of One Bills. Liked 843 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,239 Speaker 1: the microwave version of One Bills Live. And remember when 844 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,600 Speaker 1: there isn't enough time for One Bills Live, there's always 845 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 1: enough time for one Bill's Life. We're in and out 846 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,440 Speaker 1: and about the time it takes for you to drive 847 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:44,719 Speaker 1: to or from work. Steve Tasker, I'm Chris Brown. We'll 848 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:57,440 Speaker 1: catch you next week. Everybody,