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Speaker 1: Well, good evening, everyone, Welcome to stinc Shield.

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Speaker 2: I think one of the most important stories of our

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Speaker 2: time is who was running the White House when Joe

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Speaker 2: Biden was President of the United States. Was Joe Biden

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Speaker 2: even competent? You and I we all know that Joe

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Speaker 2: Biden wasn't competent. So then who was in charge of

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Speaker 2: the coverwoe? Who was engaged with the cover up? Well,

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Speaker 2: at the forefront of this cover up had to be

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden's doctor. This guy, Kevin O'Connor. Kevin O'Connor was

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Speaker 2: called in for a hearing before House Oversight today to

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Speaker 2: answer questions about his role in assessing Joe Biden. I

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Speaker 2: would say, his role in covering up Joe Biden's mental condition,

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Speaker 2: but he refused to answer any questions. He took the

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Speaker 2: fifth for everything. This is him leaving Oversight today after

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Speaker 2: a very short committee. You're obviously we don't answer any questions.

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Speaker 2: You don't need to go very low.

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Speaker 1: How's the president? How's the president's health?

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Speaker 3: It is?

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Speaker 4: Are you going to come to the briefing room to

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Speaker 4: address us?

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Speaker 1: Probably not.

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Speaker 3: It could not change before that.

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Speaker 5: This is unprecedented and and I think that this adds

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Speaker 5: more fuel to the fire that there was a cover up.

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Speaker 5: This was an opportunity to come clean.

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Speaker 2: He you know, he could say, oh, doctor O'Connor, mentally

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Speaker 2: fit to service President.

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Speaker 1: Doctor O'Connor, what's your message to the committee?

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Speaker 6: Do you think he is up to serve?

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Speaker 7: Thank you?

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Speaker 8: Have you told the truth the entire time that he

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Speaker 8: was backed up to serve? All right?

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Speaker 2: Obviously does doesn't want to answer any questions there If

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Speaker 2: you want to see his performance, we've just obtained the

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Speaker 2: video from inside this closed door hearing.

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Speaker 1: It was closed door.

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Speaker 2: But now oversight decided to release the video of him

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Speaker 2: actually taking the Fifth Amendment?

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Speaker 9: Doctor O'Connor, did you ever believe the president was unfit

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Speaker 9: to execute his duties as president?

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Speaker 10: And the advice of council, I must respectfully declined to

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Speaker 10: answer based on the physician patient privilege and in reliance

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Speaker 10: on my right under the fifth Pendment of the Constitution

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Speaker 10: another lawyer, and I must follow my lawyer's advice in

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Speaker 2: A lot of important questions too, like did anyone ask

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Speaker 2: you to lie about the president's condition? That has nothing

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Speaker 2: to do actually with the condition of the president for

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Speaker 2: patient client privilege, but that has everything to do with

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Speaker 2: getting to the heart of who was behind all of this. So,

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Speaker 2: James Comber, you saw a quick, little brief part of it.

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Speaker 2: Let me play it again for you. James Comer actually

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Speaker 2: responded to what happened inside there today.

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Speaker 5: This is unprecedented, and I think that this adds more

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Speaker 5: fuel to the fire that there was a cover up.

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Speaker 5: This was an opportunity to come clean. He said, Oh,

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Speaker 5: President was in great health. This is just a conspiracy theory.

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Speaker 3: He was fine.

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Speaker 2: So he takes the Fifth Amendment. Look, there's no crime

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Speaker 2: against taking it. The reality is taking the Fifth Amendment

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Speaker 2: is not an admission of guilt. The Supreme Court has

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Speaker 2: made that clear over and over again. But it certainly

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Speaker 2: doesn't look good. And this show is not a court

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Speaker 2: of law. Our perception is valid, and I'll tell you this,

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Speaker 2: it looks really bad when this doctor comes in and

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Speaker 2: refuses to answer any questions. I want to bring in now,

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Speaker 2: a man who is on that Oversight committee, Republican House

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Speaker 2: of Representatives member from Missouri, our buddy, Eric Burlason, is here, Congressmen.

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Speaker 8: Great to have you on the program, Great to be

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Speaker 8: on Graham.

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Speaker 1: All right, So what do you make of him taking

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Chairman Comber is right when he says

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Speaker 4: that this sinks to high heaven. The American people saw

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Speaker 4: with their own eyes that the administration and the mainstream

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Speaker 4: media were lying to us about his mental fitness. But

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Speaker 4: the fact that this doctor cannot be open and honest

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Speaker 4: in a deposition hearing with Congress and pleads the Fifth

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Speaker 4: it really you know, pleading the fifth is to ensure

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Speaker 4: that you don't incriminate yourself. So people that are that

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Speaker 4: have nothing to hide or are not guilty of anything,

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Speaker 4: don't need to plead the Fifth. This individual pleading the

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Speaker 4: fifth is it demonstrates that there is something there that

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Speaker 4: they're they're hiding.

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Speaker 2: Well, certainly, when you're asking questions about the president's health,

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Speaker 2: what was his blood pressure?

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Speaker 1: What were all these things? Does he have a certain disease?

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Speaker 2: I understand maybe that falls into client privilege, but he's

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Speaker 2: president of the United States, You've released reports on him before.

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Speaker 1: Many of the answers are in there.

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Speaker 2: You're asking for opinions on certain things, and a doctor

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Speaker 2: can give his own opinion. Fine, But there were other questions, Congressman,

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Speaker 2: like the one I mentioned. Did anyone ask you to

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Speaker 1: You ever lie about that?

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Speaker 2: I understand why you might take the Fifth Amendment on

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Speaker 2: that one, but there were plenty of questions where you're

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Speaker 2: not violating patient client privilege.

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Speaker 4: Correct, That's a great point, grand and which is you're

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Speaker 4: one hundred percent right him just not getting into the weeds,

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Speaker 4: not getting into the details about the health aspects of

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Speaker 4: Joe Biden, just answering the question where you asked to

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Speaker 4: lie or misrepresent his health status. Is that you're not

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Speaker 4: revealing anything anything. You're just determining if the doctor is

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Speaker 4: being honest with the American people. It's tragic, it's sad,

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Speaker 4: and it's clearly it's created a lot of smoke. And

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Speaker 4: you know, look there, if there was nothing, there would

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Speaker 4: be one thing. But when they're when they're trying to

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Speaker 4: hide where they're using the fifth you know there's something

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's only a few situations that could happen. The

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Speaker 2: President himself asks the doctor to lie for him, somebody

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Speaker 2: The doctor takes it upon himself to just lie for

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Speaker 2: the president because he thinks it's the right thing to do,

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Speaker 2: or he believes he was open and honest.

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Speaker 1: Those are the those are the only four choices.

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Speaker 2: Now, if somebody asks you to lie, lying is not

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Speaker 2: a crime unless you're under oath.

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Speaker 1: So my assessment of.

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Speaker 2: The Fifth Amendment here is that's not a crime lying.

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Speaker 2: Now we may not like it, maybe morally wrong, but

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Speaker 2: it's not criminal to lie.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it would it would be criminal lie under oath.

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Speaker 7: But you're right.

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Speaker 4: If he admitted that he had misrepresented the president's health

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Speaker 4: would be immoral, but it wouldn't be it wouldn't be criminal.

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Speaker 4: And so the fact that he's unwilling to be open

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Speaker 4: to work with the administration. Look, he's an individual who's

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Speaker 4: had a long standing relationship with the Biden. So I

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Speaker 4: think that to that point, he's not He's not some

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Speaker 8: This is is clearly part of a long time cover up.

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Speaker 2: It sure seems like that, i'll use a legal term,

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Speaker 2: a reasonable person would suspect all of this seems very suspicious.

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Speaker 2: And with that, Congress and Burls, and I'll ask you

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Speaker 2: how important is this story that we get to the

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Speaker 2: bottom of what was behind.

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Speaker 1: All of this.

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Speaker 4: You know, I think the American people deserve and we

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Speaker 4: basically had, you know, a cabinet and that would not

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Speaker 4: do their job. We had, including Kamala Harris. You had

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Speaker 4: I think the American people deserve to know. So we're

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Speaker 4: going to continue the investigation because look, the history books

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Speaker 4: need to document this mistake so that we never ever

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Speaker 4: come back to this again.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this story, like so many others MAGA.

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Speaker 2: Republicans just want justice. We want people held accountable. Last

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Speaker 2: question for you, Congressman, do you think anybody will be

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Speaker 8: I hope so.

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Speaker 4: I hope the Department of Justice is investigating oversight, is

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Speaker 8: But at the end of today, it's going.

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Speaker 4: To take the Department of Justice to prosecute these individuals,

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Speaker 4: and so I hope that they are doing their job

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Speaker 4: in investigating.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate the fact that you are being led by

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Speaker 2: James Comer, who oversees that committee Congress and Burrows, and

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Speaker 2: I know you're a busy guy.

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Speaker 1: We always appreciate when you come on the program.

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Speaker 8: Thank you, sir, Thank you Graham.

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Speaker 2: All right, and all of this, folks, gets to the

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Speaker 2: heart of the auto pen, right, because my belief is

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Speaker 2: that's why they were using the auto pen to side bills,

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Speaker 2: pardons executive orders for Joe Biden so the Wizard of

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Speaker 2: was stolen. With that, I want to bring in Samuel

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Speaker 2: Dewey is with the Oversight Project that really uncovered most

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Speaker 2: of this stuff. The Oversight Project is a vision of

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Speaker 2: the Heritage Foundation. Samuel do it.

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Speaker 1: Welcome the program, and it's great to have you on today.

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Speaker 7: Thank you very much for having me. I'm happy to

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 2: So I asked the congressman the same question I'll ask

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Speaker 2: you guys. You guys really are at the heart of

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Speaker 2: uncovering this autopen scandal. The autopen is the key to

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Speaker 2: everything because whoever runs it basically runs the country.

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Speaker 1: Am I right?

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Speaker 9: That's largely correct? And this has always been a lens

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Speaker 9: to look at the issue of capacity. What was President

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Speaker 9: Biden's capacity? Was the government being run in his name?

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Speaker 9: If it was being run in his name, it was

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Speaker 9: being run using the autopen And that's what was so

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Speaker 9: important about doctor O'Connor's failure to testify. Today, he's the

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Speaker 9: one who would be closest to the issue of was

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Speaker 9: the president aware of what was being autopen in his name?

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Speaker 9: Did he have the capacity discharge the office?

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Speaker 2: As a lawyer, I don't know if you're a criminal

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Speaker 2: lawyer or not, but is there the ability for the

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Speaker 2: who's not the key player in all this.

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Speaker 1: He's relative to Wala, but he's not the key player.

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Speaker 2: He's a soldier, probably to offer him immunity. And if

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Speaker 2: you're all for immunity, and I think we saw some

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Speaker 2: of these things with some of the Trump investigations, do

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Speaker 2: you have to testify or can you do you still

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Speaker 2: have to take the fifth if you have immunity.

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Speaker 11: To all of this.

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Speaker 9: So that's a great question. The Department of Justice could

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Speaker 9: immunize him, or Congress itself can apply to the district

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Speaker 9: court from the community order. That was done, for example,

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Speaker 9: when Oliver North testified in front of Iran Contra. It

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Speaker 9: was done back in twenty sixteen. In some Senate investigations,

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Speaker 9: immunity orders were entered and witnesses testified pursuant to the

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Speaker 9: immunity order. And if an immunity order is entered and

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Speaker 9: the witness refuses to answer tries to invoke the Fifth

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Speaker 9: Amendment again, they are in contempt and can be prosecuted.

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Speaker 9: That's very well established. Once they're in unies they have

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Speaker 2: That may be a way to go at it here.

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Speaker 2: Because to me, I don't really care about the doctor.

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Speaker 2: I care about the guy who was deciding whoever it was,

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Speaker 9: And there are plenty of instances of that, so.

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Speaker 2: The reality is though you didn't need access to the president,

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Speaker 2: Update you on the Russian collusion hoax. I never liked

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Speaker 2: It was very, very clear this entire thing was a

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Speaker 1: Larry, Welcome to the program.

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Speaker 2: All right, Larry, the CIA getting involved with this from

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure it's going to go anywhere.

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Speaker 11: If it gets the Epstein treatment, you know, candidly Trump

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Speaker 11: again the big talkers, little doers. The fact that where

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Speaker 11: it wasn't just against Donald Trump. At the outset, John

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Speaker 3: A task force means you've got people from.

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Speaker 3: They were brought together for.

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Speaker 11: A purpose to collect intelligence on all of the presidential candidates,

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Speaker 11: Brennan and Camy, we're all involved with that, so Brendan

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Speaker 1: In fact, I found out about this because.

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Speaker 11: He said, man, you're never going to believe this, But

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Speaker 3: He said, came to me and said, hey, do.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you're aware.

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Speaker 11: Of Grant, but I'm the one that went in alerted

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Speaker 1: What's up?

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Speaker 11: And I laid ou out for him this conspiracy and

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Speaker 11: That's what launched cash Pttel into doing the investigation.

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Speaker 1: How frustrated are you then?

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Speaker 2: And casting a great job with that investigation and here

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Speaker 11: Larry Well, they clearly I don't know what the statue.

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Speaker 2: Do you getting glary that it was Do you think

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Speaker 2: That last question for you real quick, it now comes

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Speaker 11: That thirty seconds he was Obama definitely was involved, but

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Speaker 2: Obama just piled on fascinating stuff. Larry Johnson's always fascinating

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Speaker 2: when you come on former CIA officer. We appreciate your

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Speaker 2: thank you, thank you, Gret Absolutely all right, folks, we're

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Speaker 1: We will not let it. Welcome back here, everyone, I'll

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Speaker 2: For the first time on CNN, a PBS White House

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Speaker 14: all throughout the election cycle, the MAGA base really built

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Speaker 14: this up. Not just the MAGA base, but key figures

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Speaker 14: that are now inside the President's administration, whether it's Pam Bondy,

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Speaker 14: whether it's stand On Gino Cash Fattel, the leaders of

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Speaker 14: the FBI.

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Speaker 1: They were talking about this.

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Speaker 2: Non stop, yep, pretty much, which is why I feel betrayed,

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Speaker 2: and I was shocked when President Trump laid it out

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Speaker 2: like this.

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Speaker 15: I'm just interested, Sagan, are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein?

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Speaker 15: This guy's been talked about for years? You're asking, we

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Speaker 15: have Texas, we have this, we have all of the things,

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Speaker 15: and are people still talking about this guy?

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Speaker 8: This creep?

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Speaker 1: That is unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: He's a creep, all right, and it's unbelievable. Now we're

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Speaker 2: getting there's enoughing see here, deal. I do believe there

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Speaker 2: is something to see here. I believe President Trump believes

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Speaker 2: it's in America's best interest that we don't see it,

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Speaker 2: and I trust President Trump. I'd rather we just be

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Speaker 2: told that than a two page document that says there's nothing.

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Speaker 2: There After, we had my very good friend and so

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Speaker 2: many other of my very good friends on camera saying

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Speaker 2: they saw it all like Alina Haba.

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Speaker 7: And not been held accountable.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the reverse.

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Speaker 16: I believe in accountability, so you have to now go

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Speaker 16: through your process. Now I won't say they're guilty until

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Speaker 16: they go through their time in court. But again, now

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Speaker 16: it's time for accountability. We have seen for so many

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Speaker 16: years Pierce in this country, many investigations, subpoena's, testimonies in Congress,

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Speaker 16: et cetera, et cetera. But there's a general frustration with accountability.

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Speaker 16: We take it halfway, we don't take it home. And

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Speaker 16: I really believe that now with cash and PAM, there

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Speaker 16: will be accountability.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Unfortunately there's not.

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Speaker 2: She also says all kinds of evidence, blockbuster evidence, would.

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Speaker 1: Be shocked by it all, and so far we get nothing.

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Speaker 2: I don't understand how we're told nothing when delay Maxwell

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Speaker 2: Epstein's cohort has a little black book. We're told there's

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Speaker 2: two thousand names, and at that little black book, corn

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Speaker 2: to Marjorie Taylor Green is still under seal in a

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Speaker 2: federal court.

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Speaker 1: Now even call it a client.

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Speaker 2: List, call it a black book, Call it just an

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Speaker 2: FBI list of the clients.

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Speaker 1: Why don't we know who this is? What is it?

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Speaker 1: Play here?

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Speaker 2: I want to bring you in now, FBI whistle blower

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Speaker 2: and former special agent Steve Friend.

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Speaker 1: Steve, Welcome to the program. Thanks for having me tonight. Steve.

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Speaker 2: I feel like I'm in an alternate universe sometimes. Now,

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Speaker 2: what in the world is going on? Do you have

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Speaker 2: any idea?

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Speaker 17: Look, I'm just as disgusted as you are about this

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Speaker 17: entire thing, and not just because of the salacious nature

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Speaker 17: of these allegations about Jeffrey Epstein that have gone back

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Speaker 17: for years. I think everybody should be justify the outraged

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Speaker 17: about children being abused. But really, at its core, what

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Speaker 17: does the Jeffrey Epstein case represent to MAGA. It is

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Speaker 17: a question a fundamental question of do we have a

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Speaker 17: two tiered system of justice in which the elite avoid

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Speaker 17: all accountability. All the different metrics of our system, all

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Speaker 17: the different leavers are always pulled so they can avoid

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Speaker 17: any sort of accountability for the wrongdoing, and we are

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Speaker 17: all waiting on baby.

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Speaker 1: Breath to see if in fact this.

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Speaker 17: List whatever you wanted and in the other form was revealed,

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Speaker 17: then that would put the pressure on the DOJ to

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Speaker 17: actually bring the hammer down on those individuals.

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Speaker 1: And now we've been deprived of that.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's very interesting because there are people

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Speaker 2: that were involved other than Epstein, and nobody has been

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Speaker 2: held accountable. All the idea was he was blackmailing people.

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Speaker 2: Even so we knew who they were, and they're engaging

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Speaker 2: in sexual activity with minors, they need to be held accountable,

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Speaker 2: as you mentioned. Then, Mike Benz, who's a former State

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Speaker 2: Department official, was on the program yesterday and he talked

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Speaker 2: about Epstein's ties to.

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Speaker 1: The Middle East and possibilities.

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Speaker 2: Now this is all speculation that his ties in the

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Speaker 2: Middle East, possibly those he blackmailed, are involved in peace

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Speaker 2: talks right now, world leaders, it would upend something like that.

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Speaker 2: Let me play this cut six for the guys behind

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Speaker 2: the glass.

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Speaker 1: This is Mike Ben's.

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Speaker 18: What you're dealing with here is an international intelligence web.

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Speaker 18: Take take his role in Iran contra that was illicit

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Speaker 18: arms trafficking and money laundering for a CIA activity that

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Speaker 18: violated international law in that one operation alone. You have

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Speaker 18: the CIA in the US, you have Israeli intelligence, you

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Speaker 18: have UK intelligence, and you have Saudi intelligence. That's four

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Speaker 18: different countries intelligence agencies running through this single person.

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Speaker 2: And that single person, of course, would be Epstein. Steve,

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Speaker 2: is there any scenario in your mind that if you

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Speaker 2: knew behind the scenes, you'd say, Okay, I understand why

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Speaker 2: they're not releasing it.

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Speaker 17: I could understand that, but it'll never be justified in

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Speaker 17: my mind, because regardless of what your considerations are, if

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Speaker 17: you're ultimately coming down to it's for the greater good,

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Speaker 17: that's why it's okay people who raped small children can

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Speaker 17: get away with it, then that just fundamentally means to

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Speaker 17: me that this country is no longer an objective force

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Speaker 17: for good.

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Speaker 1: We are no longer great.

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Speaker 17: Because we cannot be good because we have said that

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Speaker 17: it out loud, and to me, this is a failure

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Speaker 17: of leadership at the Department of Justice, at the FBI,

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Speaker 17: and all the way up to the White House, because

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Speaker 17: Donald Trump getting on the bully pulpit and actually running

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Speaker 17: interference for Pambonni when she was asked a legitimate question

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Speaker 17: by a journalist in that case is tremendously disappointing, and

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Speaker 17: it's the portrayal of the campaign promises that he and

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Speaker 17: his entire campaign made throughout the twenty twenty four election.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I will agree, if disappointing.

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Speaker 2: I don't want anyone to forget He's still doing some

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Speaker 2: great things for this country and America's back on track,

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Speaker 2: and it just seems to take away a little bit

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Speaker 2: from all of this. I think there may have been

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Speaker 2: another way they could have handled it that would have

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Speaker 2: been better than this. Because Maga is disappointed, there's no

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Speaker 2: debt about it. This does, as you say, it feels

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Speaker 2: like a betrayal on all of this. So I'll ask

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Speaker 2: you from inside the FBI, if Pam Bondi says there's

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Speaker 2: two thousand pages of documents that were found in New York,

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Speaker 2: how do you come from two thousand pages from convicting

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Speaker 2: Epstein convicting Maxwell to a two page report that says

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Speaker 2: there's nothing to see here.

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Speaker 17: Well, you just have to have select the right people

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Speaker 17: to just follow orders and write those two pages in

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Speaker 17: a very clean and sterile format. Here, because the people

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Speaker 17: who actually do this sort of work, they have a

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Speaker 17: passion for putting these evildoers away, would not idly stand

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Speaker 17: by here, So I think it was probably someone from

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Speaker 17: the outside here and I wanted to just brush it

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Speaker 17: under the rug, which is also why we saw the

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Speaker 17: league happen over a holiday weekend July fourth and middle

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Speaker 17: of the summer, and also because of the events down

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Speaker 17: in Texas.

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Speaker 2: I want to reiterate because I get so much of

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Speaker 2: this on social media that they said, oh, this is

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Speaker 2: Trump's admission that he's on the list, and Elon said

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Speaker 2: he's on the list. In my opinion, you don't go

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Speaker 2: about it this way if you're really trying to cover.

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Speaker 1: That up too.

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Speaker 2: Between Biden and Obama and the access to these files,

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Speaker 2: we would have known about Trump if there were salacious

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Speaker 2: details about this, I don't think that's it. I think

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Speaker 2: there's something more to it. Have you tried to speculate

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Speaker 2: at all as to what this is.

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Speaker 17: I'm doing the best I can, but I mean I'm

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Speaker 17: coming up with different scenarios, but ultimately it comes down

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Speaker 17: to the fact that there is just way too much

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Speaker 17: smoke there if there's not to have been some sort

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Speaker 17: of fire. And I agree with you though on the

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Speaker 17: Donald Trump. The selective leaks that we've seen about President

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Speaker 17: Trump during his first and now second administration to friendly

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Speaker 17: left wing media, to me lends me to believe that

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Speaker 17: this would have been ultimately leaked if he had been

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Speaker 17: one of the evil doers here, we would have seen

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Speaker 17: this case push forward very fast into a Biden administration.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a great point.

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Speaker 2: And think about this two page DOJ report that basically

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Speaker 2: washes away everything was released to Axios, which makes no sense.

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Speaker 2: I have to wonder if there's some evil force at

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Speaker 2: play inside the Trump administration that's trying to make pam

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Speaker 2: by Cash, Mattel and.

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Speaker 1: Dan Bongino look bad.

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Speaker 17: I think the leak to Axios is actually strategic because

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Speaker 17: it is a left wing source that maybe you would

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Speaker 17: soften the blow to MAGA to the right of center

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Speaker 17: individuals because they might at first glance say, oh, you know,

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Speaker 17: I'm not going to lend that any credence because that's

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Speaker 17: not a legitimate news source for me. And then that

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Speaker 17: was maybe a strategic leak because leaks are a tool

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Speaker 17: of the director of the FBI, of the Attorney General,

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Speaker 17: and of the president. So it might have been actually

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Speaker 17: just their own decisions to soften the blow for themselves

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Speaker 17: and not really get the fallout, which is why we're

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Speaker 17: also seeing them pivot away to start of look at

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Speaker 17: James Comey and John Brennan, who are outside the statute

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Speaker 17: of limitations. At the same time they look at Christopher Ray,

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Speaker 17: the Chinese involved in the twenty twenty election, that's still

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Speaker 17: within the statute of limitations. He's still gettable. Why if

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Speaker 17: for as long as we're going to pivot, let's go

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Speaker 17: after that guy.

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Speaker 2: It just seems like all the Trump confidants go to

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Speaker 2: jail while Trump's not in office, and all of Biden

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Speaker 2: and Hillary and Bronx close cohorts, everybody skates.

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Speaker 1: Something's wrong.

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Speaker 2: I don't know whether it's just we're not tough enough

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Speaker 2: or or what it is, or they're out smarting us.

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Speaker 2: Either way, something's got to change. Steve Friend, it's always

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Speaker 2: great having you on the program. I appreciate you coming

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Speaker 2: on as usual.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Gret.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back everyone.

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Speaker 2: I'm still praying for these victims of these Texas floods

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Speaker 2: and so many people lost, so many lives and loved ones.

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Speaker 6: It's the big one. Wow, it's turn it so you

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Speaker 6: could not be here that not happened.

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Speaker 1: Oh, we would be probably dead.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you saw the cat.

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Speaker 8: You've seen more inside than I have.

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Speaker 19: Wow, I haven't the neighbor to pale indiate.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I know many of you can imagine what

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Speaker 2: they're going through, whether it's wildfires, floods, hurricanes. So many

673
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Speaker 2: Americans have lost homes like this. It's the loss of

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Speaker 2: life that hurts. And then I love seeing the coming

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Speaker 2: together of people who are really working to turn things around.

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Speaker 2: Look at these little kids they raised. Like I don't know,

677
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Speaker 2: I think it's five thousand dollars in counting.

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Speaker 8: I feel like a lot of people like care for

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Speaker 8: Miss Jaking how damaged it is.

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Speaker 14: And it made me feel good because we've done it.

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Speaker 1: And the money to camp. They're selling something sweet that's

682
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Speaker 1: symbolic to Camp misstick. They're Tweety cookies.

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Speaker 6: Named after one of the camp owners.

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Speaker 18: Tweety made her feel so special the week she was

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Speaker 18: at camp, sat with her at lunch one day.

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Speaker 9: Family members say Tweety Eastland's husband, Dick did well saving campers.

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Speaker 1: After we talked about it, she said, it's not fair.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know Dick longer because I learned that he's

689
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Speaker 2: such an example of God. They raised five thousand dollars

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Speaker 2: for this. This is an example of living for your country. Well,

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Speaker 2: I read a great piece by veteran Navy seal. He's

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Speaker 2: a former CIA Global Response staff member, a protective officer

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Speaker 2: as well. He's now the CEO of Able Shepherd. They

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Speaker 2: do firearms training in Colorado. Jimmy Graham is with us,

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Speaker 2: and Jimmy, you were talking about not just dying for

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Speaker 2: your country, which so many of our guys and gals

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Speaker 2: that wear a flag on their.

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Speaker 1: Shoulder willing to do.

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Speaker 2: You talked about living for this country even setting sometimes

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Speaker 2: it's harder tell me what you meant by this piece,

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Speaker 2: and I was taken by it.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, that comes from my book and Return of Man,

703
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 20: The Return of Man. I was talking to a young

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Speaker 20: man that was looking at going into the seal teams.

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Speaker 20: We're having lunch, and I asked him. I was like,

706
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Speaker 20: would you die for your country? He had a notebook

707
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Speaker 20: and he was writing some notes and I said, write

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Speaker 20: this down. Would you die for your country? And I

709
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 20: could see he was just begging for me to actually

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Speaker 20: ask him. And I said, and second thought, crosst die

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Speaker 20: and right live? Would you live for your country? And

712
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Speaker 20: I said, and add your family, my family in this nation,

713
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Speaker 20: because if you're not going to if you're not going

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Speaker 20: to live for us like your kids, my kids, your families,

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Speaker 20: all that stuff. Then you don't get the honor of

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Speaker 20: potentially dying for this nation. So it's easy to say

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Speaker 20: I'd die for my country, I die for this knowing

718
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Speaker 20: that you might not. You can accidentally die, you can't

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Speaker 20: accidentally live.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, many of us would never get

721
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Speaker 2: the chance to actually die for our country unless you

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Speaker 2: enlist in the military or serve as a police officer

723
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Speaker 2: or something like that. Now, living for the country is

724
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Speaker 2: very different. So what do you mean by someone who

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Speaker 2: lives for the country.

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Speaker 20: I would say to shepherd, and obviously that word my

727
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Speaker 20: company is called able shepherd and the shepherd.

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Speaker 6: That word just resonated in me. What is it?

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Speaker 20: What's able, capable? What's shepherd? Teacher and leader and protector?

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Speaker 20: So it doesn't just mean a protector. I know there's

731
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Speaker 20: a sheep dog movement and there's some falls from grace

732
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Speaker 20: and some special oberators right now going on. But when

733
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Speaker 20: you talk about okay, so teach, lead and protect, Teach

734
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Speaker 20: what right, not wrong?

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Speaker 3: Right?

736
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Speaker 6: What's right? Righteousness?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 11: Lead?

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Speaker 20: Where I'd say heaven and not hell and boldly say that,

740
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Speaker 20: don't whisper it you know, like what I've taught you

741
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Speaker 20: in the dark, sat in the light, what I whispered

742
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Speaker 20: in your ear, scream it from the rooftops. Well, protection

743
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Speaker 20: from what in a word, I would say destruction? Protection

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Speaker 20: from destruction? Well, what kind of destruction?

745
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Speaker 3: In order?

746
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Speaker 6: Spiritually, mentally and physically.

747
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Speaker 20: And I know a lot of guys like me, they

748
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Speaker 20: drive to physical like I'm gonna shoot a gun, I'm

749
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Speaker 20: gonna do jiu jitsu, I'm gonna do all that stuff

750
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Speaker 20: while we're losing this battle spiritually and mentally, like our

751
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Speaker 20: kids aren't mentally strong and they don't know where they're

752
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Speaker 20: going eternally, you have no business doing it of that stuff.

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Speaker 20: It's a distraction. All of this is a distraction until

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Speaker 20: you take care of who are you?

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Speaker 6: Who are you?

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Speaker 20: My kids know that and they're mentally strong. Now, maybe

757
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Speaker 20: we can talk it about some physical protection.

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Speaker 1: Am I oversimplifying it?

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Speaker 2: If I look at those girls selling lemonade to hold

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Speaker 2: up a candle for the victims of those floods, raise

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Speaker 2: money for them and the parents who I'm sure are

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Speaker 2: playing a large part of it is that part of living.

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Speaker 1: For this country.

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Speaker 20: Absolutely, praise God, I was watching that. I've been watching

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Speaker 20: the horrific pictures, as doctor Perry saw says, do the next.

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Speaker 6: Right thing, Like, what's the next right thing?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 6: They saw a need and they're like, people are hurting.

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Speaker 1: What can I do?

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Speaker 20: And they're like, maybe we could sell some things, and

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Speaker 20: maybe you're instilling something.

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Speaker 6: In those children.

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Speaker 20: I just got back from the Camino de Santiago. It's

774
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Speaker 20: a walk across Spain with my two daughters, seventeen and fifteen.

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Speaker 20: I need to show them, not to not just tell them,

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Speaker 20: show them how dad interacts with people. Show them how

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Speaker 20: he spreads the love of God, not just he goes

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Speaker 20: off the work and comes back. I need them to

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Speaker 20: see this because they'll leave my house someday. So we

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Speaker 20: say this a lot, show me, talk about it, show.

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Speaker 1: Me real quick.

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Speaker 2: You know this probably better than anyone you come out

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Speaker 2: of the military. Not everyone's a leader. What do you

784
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Speaker 2: tell those people? And actually our world wouldn't even operate

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Speaker 2: if everybody was a leader. We do need some followers.

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Speaker 2: What do you tell those people? I would challenge that immediately.

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Speaker 20: There's nobody else's job is to lead your life, right,

788
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Speaker 20: So you might not be a leader that's going to

789
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Speaker 20: go start an organization and doing all that, But I

790
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 20: can't raise your kids. I'm not going to be the

791
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Speaker 20: hero to your kids. I can help you, I can

792
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Speaker 20: guide you. That's your job. When you say you're a leader,

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Speaker 20: I said, first thing, don't repeat lies and don't say

794
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Speaker 20: list say true words, the true words or is you're

795
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Speaker 20: a call to lead your family, step into it.

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Speaker 1: It's great advice. Jimmy Graham. I appreciate you coming on.

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Speaker 2: I'm fascinated by your whole movement here and uh literally,

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Speaker 2: let's let's spread it. I'm happy to help you do

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Speaker 2: it anyway I can. Able Shepherd is your organization. Where

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Speaker 2: can people find you online?

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Speaker 20: Jimmy able Shepherd dot com find all that stuff and

802
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Speaker 20: the Protector culture podcast.

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Speaker 6: Thank you, my blessed you.

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Speaker 2: Sounds good with your background, you know, Jimmy, I was

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Speaker 2: saying to my producer Cia Navy C. I could have

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Speaker 2: had you, like any topic we had on tonight, you

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Speaker 2: could have been helping me.

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Speaker 1: Talk about it. But this was a good one. Thank you, sir.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate.

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Speaker 19: I love the comment about the other one too.

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Speaker 6: It's like about the agenda with what.

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Speaker 1: Was going on with anyways, let's get you on next week.

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Speaker 1: You can come on more than welcome to talk about it.

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham, thank you all right, you too.

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Speaker 2: Great patriots take care of their countries we just talked about,

816
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Speaker 2: but they also take care of their health.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about that next. Folks. Everybody out there knows

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Speaker 1: I don't even care.

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Speaker 2: If you have a super successful marriage, and I hope

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Speaker 2: and pray many of you do, relationships can still be hard.

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Speaker 1: You know how you can make up a little easier

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Speaker 1: by getting healthy.

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Speaker 21: Watch this when we first heard the five five five,

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Speaker 21: and we've been hearing you on RAB for quite a while,

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Speaker 21: and we finally made that decision. But I have lost

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Speaker 21: fifty three pounds since we started.

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Speaker 1: Good Okay, my.

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Speaker 16: Weight change was seventeen pounds.

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Speaker 6: I'm melting away.

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Speaker 4: Well, the cool thing is we are eighty six inches

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Speaker 4: closer together. Tell everybody it has brought us together, but not.

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Speaker 1: Just physically, spiritually as well.

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Speaker 3: Oh.

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Speaker 11: Absolutely, your program is absolutely amazing.

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Speaker 3: This has been an awesome journey so far.

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Speaker 1: Well, if that doesn't make you smile, I don't know

837
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Speaker 1: what would.

838
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Speaker 2: If it doesn't make it motivated to get healthy, I

839
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Speaker 2: don't know what would.

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Speaker 1: Maybe my buddy.

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Speaker 2: John Jubilee, the founder of energized Health. He motivates everybody,

842
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Speaker 2: including me. Got me to lose fifteen pounds in just

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Speaker 2: two weeks on the Energized Health program, kept it off,

844
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Speaker 2: and every every measurement is going in the right direction.

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Speaker 2: John Jubilee, welcome to the program.

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Speaker 8: My friend.

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Speaker 19: Hey, great to be here. Grant.

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Speaker 2: All right, so we always talk about, you know, getting

849
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Speaker 2: blood pressure down, losing some body fat, but improving your relationship.

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Speaker 22: This is cool, John, No, it's it's super cool. And

851
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Speaker 22: come on, that puts a big smile on my face.

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Speaker 22: You know, we get to hear that, you know, pretty

853
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Speaker 22: much every day of our life at Energized Health, Grant.

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Speaker 22: And don't you love it that that couple, you know,

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Speaker 22: they obviously took their measurements. They're eighty six inches physically

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Speaker 22: closer together.

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Speaker 19: Eighty six inches. Come on, that's like a person missing

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Speaker 19: out of the bend. They're eighty six inches closer.

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Speaker 22: But I love it that she qualified her statement said,

860
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Speaker 22: but no, we're actually closer together spiritually, because Grant, we

861
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 22: don't even realize sometimes we're our own worst enemy. When

862
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:17,879
Speaker 22: we have brain fog, when we have chronic pain, when

863
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 22: we're suffering, how could we possibly show up the best

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Speaker 22: for the people we need to show up for, for

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Speaker 22: our spouse, for our children, for our grandchildren. We can't

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Speaker 22: we can't do it when we don't feel good.

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Speaker 19: But when we feel.

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Speaker 22: Good and we're healthy from the inside out, which, by

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Speaker 22: the way, we teach this principle that listen, listen to

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Speaker 22: looking good.

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Speaker 19: Grant is a side effect. That's a side effect.

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Speaker 22: The most important thing is to feel good, is to

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Speaker 22: feel good. So we've been teaching for twenty eight years. Listen,

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Speaker 22: when you're healthy, you feel good. When you feel good,

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Speaker 22: you can't help but look good. So let's focus on

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Speaker 22: the first things first, which is feeling good getting healthy.

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Speaker 2: Since we're talking about relationships now this is a family show,

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Speaker 2: but let's just say improvements can be seen in the

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Speaker 2: bedroom as well.

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Speaker 1: That should get people to my five to five challenge.

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Speaker 22: John, No, listen, no, look, I'm just going to speak

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Speaker 22: scientifically here.

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Speaker 1: Listen.

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Speaker 22: The smallest vein in the body is to the male organ,

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Speaker 22: and when you get cellular hydration to that vein, the

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Speaker 22: vein opens up. When you get healthy viscosity in the blood,

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Speaker 22: it's ten times better than viagra and it's totally natural.

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Speaker 19: Grant. I'm just telling you scientifically.

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Speaker 22: We've had couples two, three, four, five, eight, ten years

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Speaker 22: they were not having sexual relations, but they love each other.

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Speaker 19: They stayed in their marriage.

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Speaker 22: Today they say they're having the best intimate physical relations

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Speaker 22: they've ever had. And I'm talking to people in their

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Speaker 22: seventies and eighties, by the way. So it is absolutely

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Speaker 22: a side effect of getting healthy at the cellular level.

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Speaker 22: It will definitely improve your intimacy and your connection in

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Speaker 22: the bedroom.

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Speaker 2: All Right, I asked the beginning of this is I

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Speaker 2: don't know what else with motiv but actually you found

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Speaker 2: another topic that would motivate me. All right, So all

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Speaker 2: of this is about intercellular hydration. It's not drugs, it's

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Speaker 2: not fad diets, it's not crazy we're going to kill

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Speaker 2: you in the gym workouts. It's a program, a protocol

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Speaker 2: that is backed in science. John, I'll give you the

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Speaker 2: last word here.

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Speaker 22: Now, look, this is real science. This is medically approved.

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Speaker 22: This is medically approved. So you know when you are

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Speaker 22: fully FSA HSA care credit approved, you are a medically

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Speaker 22: accredited program. It's in this because we have scientific efficacy

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Speaker 22: for twenty eight years.

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Speaker 19: So guys, come and join us. You just got to

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Speaker 19: go click on.

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Speaker 22: It'll take you five minutes, so it'll cost you five

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Speaker 22: dollars to change your life forever.

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Speaker 2: All right, let me tell people how they can find you,

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Speaker 2: John Jubilee, always great to see you, my friend.

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Speaker 1: Here's what I want people to do.

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Speaker 2: Go to my five five five challenge dot com. That's

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Speaker 2: my five five five challenge dot com. Right now, learn

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Speaker 2: as John said, how you can lose five pounds in

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Speaker 2: five days for only five dollars.

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Speaker 1: You cannot beat that, folks, I'm telling you.

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Speaker 9: All right.

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Speaker 2: CNN rolls out Bill ny, a liberal guy, to b

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Speaker 2: rate you for well causing the floods of Texas. You know,

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Speaker 2: the climate change zealots never give up Democrats. It's typical

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Speaker 2: for them to like weaponize any tragedy for political points.

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Speaker 2: And of course anytime there's a weather event, they want

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Speaker 2: to blame climate change and all of this, so they

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Speaker 2: go and dig up Bill Night, a science guy. This

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Speaker 2: guy's like still around. I had no idea of this.

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Speaker 2: We call him Bill Ny, a liberal guy. Here is

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Speaker 2: what are we going to do about?

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Speaker 21: It?

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Speaker 23: Is the ancient question, and it would be to stop

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Speaker 23: burning fossil fuels.

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Speaker 19: When you're in a hole up digging and so on.

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Speaker 23: But the fossil fuel industry has been very successful in

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Speaker 23: getting organizations like the US Congress to think that it's.

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Speaker 1: Really not happening.

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Speaker 14: Well, and the first six months of the Trump administration

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Speaker 14: we've seen an end to some of the federal efforts.

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Speaker 2: You know what's a shame is that's Dana Bash. She

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Speaker 2: knows full well the fossil fuel industry is not responsible

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Speaker 2: for the climate changing. In fact, it has not been

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Speaker 2: proven that man is responsible. If someone can prove that

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Speaker 2: to me, I'm not an anti climate change.

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Speaker 1: Zelln I'm not an anti Zellen.

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Speaker 2: I just want it proven to me that man is

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Speaker 2: the cause before I upend economies. And please show me

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Speaker 2: how the United States doing something in India and China

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Speaker 2: not puts US behind the eight ball.

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Speaker 1: We're screwed.

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Speaker 2: That's going to do it for US folks real quick,

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Speaker 2: since Field Army rules.

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Speaker 1: See you tomorrow night,