WEBVTT -  BREAKING UPDATE on Savannah Guthrie’s Missing Mom:  “We Do In Fact Have A Crime Scene” 

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there, folks. It is Monday, February second, and we

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<v Speaker 1>have a breaking update in the search for Today's Show

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<v Speaker 1>host Savannah Guthrie's mom, who has gone missing in Arizona.

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<v Speaker 1>Police now say this was a crime. Welcome to this

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<v Speaker 1>episode of Amy and TJ Robe. We were just listening

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<v Speaker 1>to the update out there. This story has changed even

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<v Speaker 1>in the past hour. But Savannah Guthrie, host of the

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<v Speaker 1>Today Show, her mom went missing over the weekend. In

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<v Speaker 1>robes not giving us a lot, but they are saying

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<v Speaker 1>this was a crime as she did not leave on

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<v Speaker 1>our own.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, this is a chilling update. We learned Nancy Guthrie.

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<v Speaker 2>She's eighty four years old, and police made it very

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<v Speaker 2>clear that she doesn't have any mental issues. She is

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<v Speaker 2>sharp as attack I believe, is what they said. So

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<v Speaker 2>this isn't an issue of an eighty four year old

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<v Speaker 2>old elderly woman wandering off. No, she has physical challenges

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<v Speaker 2>though they said she couldn't walk fifty yards on her own.

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<v Speaker 2>And more importantly, they say there is medication that she

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<v Speaker 2>needs that if she doesn't get in the next twenty

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<v Speaker 2>four hours, it could be fatal. So they are up

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<v Speaker 2>against the clock. That is disturbing, but the language they

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<v Speaker 2>used to describe why they have shifted their focus now

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<v Speaker 2>from searching for Nancy Guthrie to now investigating a crime.

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<v Speaker 2>That is a very dramatic and traumatic shift.

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<v Speaker 1>So we woke up this morning really to this news.

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<v Speaker 1>They say she was last seen on Saturday at nine

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<v Speaker 1>forty five there in Tucson, Arizona, where some family members

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<v Speaker 1>were at the house. So that's why they know she

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<v Speaker 1>was at home. They leave next day they family members

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<v Speaker 1>started getting calls from people at they say church that

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<v Speaker 1>Savannah Guthrie's mom hadn't showed up as expected. So then

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<v Speaker 1>they go to the house, start looking for it, then

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<v Speaker 1>report her missing around noontime on Sunday. Now that's the

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<v Speaker 1>information we had. They said it was a vulnerable adult

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<v Speaker 1>that they were looking for. They had search and rescue

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<v Speaker 1>teams out. That is the news we had this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>It has now changed in the past hour. Robes we

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<v Speaker 1>should go through now what the sheriff out there has

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<v Speaker 1>said and again and he is so concerned, I would

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<v Speaker 1>use the word beg. He is begging the public for help.

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<v Speaker 2>They are begging the public for help because they say

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<v Speaker 2>technology is going to help them solve this crime. They say,

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<v Speaker 2>we need to depend on technology. We need cameras, we

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<v Speaker 2>need anyone who had a sighting of Nancy Guthrie or

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<v Speaker 2>anything unusual in that neighborhood. They are asking for the

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<v Speaker 2>public's help. And yes, babe, it sounded like they were

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<v Speaker 2>begging for the public's help.

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<v Speaker 1>This was.

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<v Speaker 2>A quote that the sheriff gave that just sent chills

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<v Speaker 2>up and down my spine. He said, we do, in

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<v Speaker 2>fact have a crime scene. We do in fact have

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<v Speaker 2>a crime And he said, we don't see this as

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<v Speaker 2>a search mission as much as we do a crime scene.

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<v Speaker 2>And obviously the questions are, how what did you find

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<v Speaker 2>in Nancy Guthrie's home? What is making this so obvious

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<v Speaker 2>to the point where you can say the public is

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<v Speaker 2>not at risk?

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<v Speaker 1>He I mean he kind of headed a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>on that with Denney. He was asked that question directly,

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<v Speaker 1>and I mean he almost stuttered and he's, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. They just don't have a lot of answers,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems right now. The answer they have is that

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<v Speaker 1>this is a crime, and this is a crime scene

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<v Speaker 1>that they are processing. And he said, they know she

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<v Speaker 1>did not leave on her own. What that means did

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<v Speaker 1>she leave willingly? I say, meaning did she walk out

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<v Speaker 1>of there? Did she walk out?

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<v Speaker 2>They said no, because they said she could not walk

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<v Speaker 2>fifty yards on her own, that she physically just is

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<v Speaker 2>not able to wander off or to go anywhere, and

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<v Speaker 2>again making it very clear that it would not dementia

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<v Speaker 2>related in any way. And then there are a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of questions about why this happened, how this could have happened.

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<v Speaker 2>This is such a bizarre, strange story. An eighty four

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<v Speaker 2>year old woman who was with family until almost ten

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<v Speaker 2>pm on Saturday night. Something happens after ten pm before

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<v Speaker 2>she's supposed to go to church in the morning on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 2>What could that have possibly been?

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about. He was not giving a lot of details.

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<v Speaker 1>He's being very careful right now because it's early in

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<v Speaker 1>investigation rooms. But it was telling some things, he said.

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<v Speaker 1>It was telling to hear him say that the search

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<v Speaker 1>and rescue has been called off, like all the planes,

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<v Speaker 1>the helicopter, the drones, all those volunteers for whatever reason, robes.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't think it's necessary. They don't think it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to produce any results if they keep searching areas. What

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<v Speaker 1>that means She's not just roaming around out there, they believe.

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<v Speaker 1>Now at least it sounds like there was something specific

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<v Speaker 1>and she was an somewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Because to that point this was also Look, these are

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<v Speaker 2>all the things you don't want to hear. If someone

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<v Speaker 2>you love is missing her cell phone, they have it.

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<v Speaker 2>She does not have her cell phone with her, she

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<v Speaker 2>does not have her possessions with her, that is fighting.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no way to know where she is, how to

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<v Speaker 2>contact her. I just, you know, all of us put

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<v Speaker 2>ourselves in that shoe as the daughter or a family

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<v Speaker 2>member of your eighty four year old mother. And we

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<v Speaker 2>know Savannah really well, worked with her for many, many years,

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<v Speaker 2>and I just I cannot even imagine the agony that

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<v Speaker 2>she and her family must be feeling right now, because

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<v Speaker 2>it's hard enough dealing with a tragedy, but not knowing

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<v Speaker 2>where your mom is, not knowing who is with her,

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<v Speaker 2>not knowing if she's suffering, not knowing how she's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be. I mean, the clock is ticking twenty four

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<v Speaker 2>hours until they said, I mean, he used the words

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<v Speaker 2>if she does not get the medication that she needs,

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<v Speaker 2>it could be fatal. So they are up against the

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<v Speaker 2>c and you know, he said this, we don't. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>curious what your take is on this, babe. The sheriff said,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't need another bad, tragic ending. We need some help.

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<v Speaker 2>So if they don't think she wandered off, if they

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<v Speaker 2>don't believe that she is someone who they could be

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<v Speaker 2>searching for, and something that they found at her home

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<v Speaker 2>is cementing this fact that they've made very clear that

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<v Speaker 2>a crime occurred. I'm trying to create scenarios in my

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<v Speaker 2>head and I can't come up with one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's this is what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>They have to do what they have to do and

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<v Speaker 1>not give as much information to preserve the integrity of

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<v Speaker 1>the investigation as this has now become a national story,

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<v Speaker 1>and so we're all chomping at the bit for information

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<v Speaker 1>and this is just it's going to drive ourselves crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>But to hear, I guess the most important thing Robes

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<v Speaker 1>is if he feels there is a chance to recover

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<v Speaker 1>her safely. That's how he's talking now. So whatever is

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<v Speaker 1>going on, he is at least telling the public that

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<v Speaker 1>we believe she's out there and we need to get

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<v Speaker 1>to her soon because of this medicine. That means there's

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<v Speaker 1>a chance, or at least they think she could. They

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<v Speaker 1>have time. It's ticking, but they have time to recover

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<v Speaker 1>her and have a good outcome. That's the best I

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<v Speaker 1>can take out of what he said. But everything the update.

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<v Speaker 1>We were debating when to do this episode and waiting

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<v Speaker 1>for updates, and then we were sitting here and saying,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my goodness, this story has just completely changed.

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<v Speaker 2>It's changed because at first they weren't necessarily saying that

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<v Speaker 2>it was a crime scene. They said they were concerned

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<v Speaker 2>based on what they found in the home. But now

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<v Speaker 2>they have taken it to a whole new level calling

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<v Speaker 2>it an active crime scene. And they also said this

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<v Speaker 2>and this will be interesting. They do have a lot

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<v Speaker 2>to go through. They are reviewing video from Nancy Guthrie's home.

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<v Speaker 2>There were cameras inside the home. She lives by herself,

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<v Speaker 2>we know that much. She does have some folks who

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<v Speaker 2>work for her and help her throughout her day. So

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<v Speaker 2>they are doing I'm sure all of those interviews, but

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<v Speaker 2>those cameras looking to see what that video shows, I

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<v Speaker 2>would think would be their most valuable bit of information

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<v Speaker 2>at this point, but also looking for other people's videos.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe people have those ring cameras, the door cameras, the

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<v Speaker 2>surveillance people these days pretty much, Yeah, someone on your

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<v Speaker 2>street or multiple people on your street have security cameras.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he railed against And I wrote this down

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<v Speaker 1>because it jumped out when he was talking about technology,

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<v Speaker 1>how much they needed out as much as going to

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<v Speaker 1>help he specifically it might have been the first thing

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<v Speaker 1>he said, license plate readers. Now he's specifically the first

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<v Speaker 1>thing that he's talking about. Yeah, he almost went on.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't necessarily political, but he took a moment to say, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>politicians out here, every time you talk about this technology

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<v Speaker 1>and say it's going to be used wrong, it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to violate your paid No, in the hands of the

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<v Speaker 1>right people, these are wonderful tools. We have license plate readers.

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<v Speaker 1>That jumped out at me. What is he does he

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<v Speaker 1>know he's looking for a.

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<v Speaker 2>Car already probably And look, this reminds me a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of what happened in Ohio where we had I

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<v Speaker 2>hate to keep calling him the dentist and his wife,

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<v Speaker 2>but the Tepie murders. We kind of had a similar

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<v Speaker 2>situation where it was this bizarre you found these this

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<v Speaker 2>couple murdered, their children are alive, there's no forced entry,

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<v Speaker 2>and they seemingly were beloved in the community. What could

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<v Speaker 2>have happened? It was technology that broke that case. They

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<v Speaker 2>found the license plate of the ex husband and this

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<v Speaker 2>is how it led to an arrest, and they were

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<v Speaker 2>able to track him and his movements based on surveillance

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<v Speaker 2>cameras and license plate readers, those things that are now

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<v Speaker 2>everywhere and we see it more and more and more

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<v Speaker 2>now being used effectively to solve crimes and mysteries like

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<v Speaker 2>this man.

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<v Speaker 1>But he says he definitely Robes is going to need

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<v Speaker 1>it on this one. I think it We didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>what was going on. But the other thing they said

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<v Speaker 1>this before we got this update, homicide detectives had been

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<v Speaker 1>called to the scene. Now that's it's just not normal

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<v Speaker 1>procedure if you don't think there's a crime. So when

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<v Speaker 1>we first heard that, that was the first thing that

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<v Speaker 1>perkure ears up a little bit this morning and just

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<v Speaker 1>hoping she had wandered off. But they have been from

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<v Speaker 1>the jump saying nope, her mind is sharp. This ain't that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, they found something, and they he even said, like

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<v Speaker 2>I understand you guys want details. That makes so much sense.

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<v Speaker 2>We just can't give them to you. But it is

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<v Speaker 2>interesting if you think about we cover this kind of

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<v Speaker 2>thing all the time with a missing person. Usually you

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<v Speaker 2>have to wait twenty four hours and there are procedures

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<v Speaker 2>before they'll actually even investigate something like this. There was

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<v Speaker 2>clearly something at the home that put all of that

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<v Speaker 2>to bed. They immediately began investigating this in a very

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<v Speaker 2>specific way.

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<v Speaker 1>And we did hear from the Guthrie family, in particular

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<v Speaker 1>Savannah Guthrie this morning, who was, of course, as you'd imagine,

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<v Speaker 1>she was not on set. In fact, the sheriff did

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<v Speaker 1>say she has made it to Arizona and she is

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<v Speaker 1>out there with her family as they try to find

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<v Speaker 1>her mother. But we will let you know the words

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<v Speaker 1>that Savannah Guthrie and her family hat this morning. Stay

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<v Speaker 1>hear all right, We continue here on Amy and TJ.

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<v Speaker 1>Ropes with the breaking news. We were in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of in the middle of another meeting, and we're distracted

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<v Speaker 1>because we saw the updates coming on the screen that's

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<v Speaker 1>in front of us, saying that in fact, Savannah Guthrie's mother,

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<v Speaker 1>the disappearance is now being treated as a crime. They

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<v Speaker 1>say they do have a crime scene at her home.

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<v Speaker 1>And this woman eighty four years old, described as eighty

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<v Speaker 1>four five five, one hundred and fifty pounds, blue eyes,

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<v Speaker 1>and brown hair. They had flyers out looking for but

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<v Speaker 1>now this is a crime scene. Search and rescue has

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<v Speaker 1>been called off. They said, they sent those folks home.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll continue to canvas maybe for information in the neighborhoods,

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<v Speaker 1>but just going and walking fields and neighbor that's not

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<v Speaker 1>happening anymore because they think this was a specific crime.

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<v Speaker 1>We did hear from the family, I guess first in

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<v Speaker 1>this tifically from Savannah, And I mean, how much can

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<v Speaker 1>they say here Rode right now, all the emphasis is

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<v Speaker 1>on trying to find this woman.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and of note, and this would be an obvious

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<v Speaker 2>question because we heard some of the q and a

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<v Speaker 2>that followed the press conference, and one of the first

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<v Speaker 2>questions from a reporter was are there any threats against

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<v Speaker 2>Savannah Guthrie? Do you know if potentially this crime that

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<v Speaker 2>occurred against her mother and Nancy Guthrie had anything to

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<v Speaker 2>do with Savannah being who she is in the public eye,

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<v Speaker 2>a very prominent journalist and national figure. And they said,

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<v Speaker 2>we do not know, we're not aware of any threats,

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<v Speaker 2>but that Savannah is there in town and is obviously

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<v Speaker 2>cooperating with police. They say, the FBI is aware of

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<v Speaker 2>the case. US Customs and Border Protection also assisting in

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<v Speaker 2>this case, so they have all hands on deck trying

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<v Speaker 2>to investigate every detail of this crime.

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<v Speaker 1>And again we had two statements, I guess we got

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<v Speaker 1>one from the family and then one specifically from Sava.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there was a separated here, but hearing from

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<v Speaker 1>the family said actually this was from NBC News. They

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<v Speaker 1>put this one out earlier, saying we can confirm this

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<v Speaker 1>is a missing person's case and the family is working

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<v Speaker 1>closely with law enforcement. Then they gave the number for

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<v Speaker 1>people to call and said the family is grateful for outreach,

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts and prayers. Again that came through NBC News earlier today.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and there have been a couple statements. As you

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<v Speaker 2>point out, they said, right now, our focus remains on

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<v Speaker 2>the safe return of our dear mom. We thank law

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<v Speaker 2>enforcement for their hard work on this case. And again

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<v Speaker 2>every statement that goes out encouraging anyone with information to

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<v Speaker 2>contact the Pima County Sheriff's Department. I mean, we always

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<v Speaker 2>hear a call for help, a call for action, and

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<v Speaker 2>those tips are always. Oftentimes what breaks a case like

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<v Speaker 2>this open someone knows something, someone saw something, someone might

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<v Speaker 2>not even realize they captured something on their home surveillance video.

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<v Speaker 2>And so when people start to look and they find things,

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<v Speaker 2>this is what we have seen time and time again

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<v Speaker 2>crack these types of cases.

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<v Speaker 1>I tholl that was interesting, he said earlier he said

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<v Speaker 1>if you see something, just take a picture. He actually

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<v Speaker 1>said that take a picture. If you think you might

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<v Speaker 1>see her, let's just see. I mean, they seem to

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<v Speaker 1>some degree, they seem like they don't have much of

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<v Speaker 1>anything other than that crime scene, and they are I

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<v Speaker 1>just you can tell.

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<v Speaker 2>Rose.

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<v Speaker 1>We watch enough of these press conferences. He was pleading

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<v Speaker 1>with the government, with the public. Please please please.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, your heart just goes out to the Guthrie family

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<v Speaker 2>to just again to not know and to hope that

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<v Speaker 2>someone has information that will give them the information that

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<v Speaker 2>they need to find Nancy Guthrie. But of course, we

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<v Speaker 2>will stay on top of this story, bring you any

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<v Speaker 2>new developments that may occur. But certainly, as always, we

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate you listening to us. I made roboch alongside my

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<v Speaker 2>partner DJ Holmes. We will talk to you very soon