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Speaker 1: When her parents searched her location Friday night, they assumed

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Speaker 1: our friends at Fox forty. Ari's Hammock's parents say she

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Speaker 1: What happened? My daughter lives with both my wife and I.

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Speaker 1: right there, Charles, I'm glad you told me that, because

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Speaker 1: So Aris leaves home to meet up with friends around

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Speaker 1: pointing forward in the future. Wow, very positive personality, absolutely

426
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Speaker 1: And anyway, I want everybody to be able to see

427
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Speaker 1: what you're talking about. So she's going now again? I

428
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:05,120
Speaker 1: thought I heard d ingram jumping in d Why do

429
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 1: you believe she was looking for a particular person or address? Well?

430
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: When when m lelan in Charles called me, um, we

431
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 1: went down to the scene. So I took pictures of

432
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 1: the car. You know, the wheels were turned in, which

433
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:21,719
Speaker 1: means to me that she didn't come in to make

434
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 1: a U turn in that called a sect. She actually

435
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 1: deliberately parked there. So I wanted to look at the

436
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 1: phone because in my in my experience, um, in my career,

437
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,880
Speaker 1: the phone records are critical and there's a timeline that's critical.

438
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 1: So I started going to the phone and the first

439
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 1: thing I noticed was there was a the Google app

440
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 1: was open, but they were looking at her text. She

441
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 1: had one phone call, um you know, from actually, let

442
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 1: me go back a little bit. She had several phone

443
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 1: calls from her parents obviously, and several voicemails that were left.

444
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 1: Other than that, there was a call, an unknown caller

445
00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 1: calling into her at nine two pm and it was

446
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: a hang up call. It was an instant hang up.

447
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,360
Speaker 1: There was no seconds, nothing, And I thought, wow, that's

448
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: very strange for them to have, you know, calls from

449
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 1: her parents, one strange phone call. I started to go

450
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: backwards and Airiss is on her phone, mind you all

451
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 1: the time. So from that night, from about seven pm

452
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: and that nine twenty two phone call in there was

453
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,640
Speaker 1: nothing behind it. There was I think it went back

454
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: to November. There was a call in November an incoming.

455
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 1: There were texts all the way back to twenty twenty one,

456
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking there is no way that Airis was

457
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 1: not on that phone since twenty twenty one to Friday night. Question.

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00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 1: You say that the call you saw there was something

459
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 1: at seven and then at nine twenty two. Yeah, nine

460
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,360
Speaker 1: twenty two there was an unknown caller that called in right,

461
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: and what was at seven? And then before that she

462
00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 1: had looked at the address again which she put in

463
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 1: the I believe it was twenty nine correct me if

464
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 1: I'm wrong with Charles, but twenty nine six or fifty

465
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: thirtieth Street, and it was in there several times. Well,

466
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 1: I went backwards in her Google app and she had

467
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 1: googled that address the night before Thursday night, So that

468
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 1: told me that she had had plans to go to

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00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:22,199
Speaker 1: this area the night before. Oh, by the way, Charles, usage,

470
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: you're carry's at correct. This is what we've learned. You

471
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: go into your bill, you look at ze usage details

472
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 1: and you can look at talk text or data. If

473
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: you look at talk you see the actual phone log.

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00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: And I understand, Charles Hammock, you have already done that.

475
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 1: So you already know that right, correct, So even though

476
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: it wasn't on the cell phone, you managed to find

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00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 1: it on the phone bill, correct, and you gave it

478
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: a Sacramento pad. Correct. I'm curious, Charles, precisely what was

479
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 1: wiped from her phone from Wind to win in. Yeah, Nancy,

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00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: I'm not sure exactly the time frame on the information

481
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 1: that was wiped. These actually looked at the phone a

482
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: wonderful day. What's the time frame with me? Is d

483
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 1: Ingram former deputy sheriff? Uh date? What's the time period

484
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: that was? Why? From the from the text messages it

485
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 1: was from that night, I would say everything from seven

486
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 1: pm backwards to win last week, last month, last year

487
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: when it was some of it was the text message

488
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 1: was at least at least seven eight days, the emails

489
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 1: and the recent phone calls back to twenty twenty one. Nancy,

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00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 1: let me add something out here, just because I think

491
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 1: I understand where there's some confusion. I think just to

492
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 1: share with you one kind of side factor on this.

493
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: So when when we got her phone, okay, and we

494
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: went to look at the phone details on at AT

495
00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: and T was having technical issues preventing us from looking

496
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: at a detail of usage for both Airis' number and

497
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: one other number on our phone plan for the majority

498
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 1: of the weekend. It wasn't until yesterday morning that we

499
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: were actually able to get into and see Airis's usage details,

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00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: after having to escalate to AT and T multiple times.

501
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 1: So between the time that we had access to that

502
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: information and the time that we spoke with Sacramento PD

503
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: and spoke with a detective and gave over her laptop

504
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: and her cell phone for them to run cyber forensics on,

505
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 1: we did not have time to do an inventory looking

506
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 1: at all of her texts and phone messages on her

507
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: phone and comparing it to her usage data. Now we've

508
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 1: turned that over to Sacramento PD for them to take

509
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 1: a look at it, and we'll probably do it ourselves

510
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: again when we get the phone back, but we were

511
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 1: without a period of time that we could not see

512
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: any of her cell phone information from AT and T

513
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: in do that type of comparison. Let me understand about

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00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: this address twenty nine fifty thirtieth straight, I believe it

515
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: was twenty six ninety five. I think it was twenty

516
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: six ninety five or twenty six fifty nine. What is

517
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: twenty six fifty nine. It's a vacant lots. Yes, it's

518
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: We're not sure why that address showed up in her

519
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 1: Apple Maps but doesn't show up on Google Maps. When

520
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 1: we first noticed that evening as we were looking through

521
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 1: her phone waiting for the police. Twenty six fifty nine, right,

522
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: twenty six fifty nine. Yeah, I may have a couple

523
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: of those numbers, and unfortunately, you know, flip flop, and

524
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: I don't have her phone in front of me. The

525
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 1: police have it to reference. And that's an a lot, Yes,

526
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: it's a it's this residential area that her car was

527
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 1: found in. There is it recently went in or construction

528
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 1: the past couple of years, a new freeway was put

529
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: in an overpass and between two homes that were there,

530
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: there's a vacant lot of land that's on a high slope,

531
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: because all of this land runs up to supporting the overpass,

532
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: to reporting supporting the freeway. But I would say it's

533
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: probably a thin stretch of land at a high slope

534
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: that probably runs about fifty two seventy yards wide. Time

535
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: Stories with Nancy Grace at this juncture, Brian Fitzgibbons is

536
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: joining US Search and Rescue expert with USPA nationwide security.

537
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: What do you advise exactly, you know, talking to you,

538
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: continuing this media coverage and I think getting some kind

539
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: of reward out through independent organizations to get information. You know,

540
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: we've found that that the coupling media coverage with advertising

541
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: rewards and getting her photo out there. Charles Hammett question

542
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 1: to you, has airis ever just disappeared for this number

543
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 1: of days before. She's never disappeared at all. She's never

544
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: disappeared for hours even hours, neither of mine, thank God

545
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: in heaven. So this is completely out of character. How

546
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: was she feeling that day? I mean, from what you've

547
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 1: told me, she was up eating normal when she left

548
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 1: and said she'd be right back. It was fine. Everything's

549
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: been fine at home, Nancy. We all get along. We

550
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: you know, my wife and I went out to her

551
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: Will Get dinner cheesecake factory with her brothers Wednesday evening.

552
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: You know, everyone was looking forward to spending the holidays together.

553
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: What does Aris do? Does she work? Is she in

554
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: school right now? She's actually she's a little bit entrepreneurial, Nancy.

555
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 1: She's started she's been working on a startup business, selling

556
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 1: handbags and selling jewelry. Really off of the website and

557
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: off of Etsy, And have you looked at the website

558
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: and what she's selling on Etsy? Has anyone wanted to

559
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: meet her for any reason through her website? Not that

560
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,320
Speaker 1: I'm aware of any type of traffic or activity that

561
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 1: she had. Everything was shipped out. Was she on a

562
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: dating website? Not that I'm aware of, But I don't know.

563
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: Is she dating anyone right now? No? Has she had

564
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: a recent breakup that you know of? No, not at all. Okay,

565
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 1: Troy Slayton is joining me, high profile lawyer joining us

566
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 1: out on California. Troy, I'm very concerned because they say

567
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 1: they're watching her on this video and she seems to

568
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,720
Speaker 1: be looking for someone or an address as she's talking

569
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 1: on the phone, and there's no video saying that she's

570
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: going back that shows her going back to the car

571
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: and then suddenly her cell phone, her credit card, her

572
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: ID in the case of the car, or all back

573
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: in the car and she's gone that suspicious Nancy. So

574
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:20,800
Speaker 1: that would obviously lead someone to believe that she is

575
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: missing or was taken, or is somewhere in that local area.

576
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 1: But what I would want to know, as with any

577
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 1: twenty four year old is what was the social media activity?

578
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 1: What was the activity that could be gleaned from Instagram, Facebook, TikTok?

579
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 1: What about that? Charlsie's absolutely right, Charles Hammock, and we're

580
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 1: training to piece that together from what we've been able

581
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: to see. Eris wasn't a frequent Facebook user. I think

582
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: she was more, you know, as far as on Instagram

583
00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 1: and TikTok. At one point earlier in her life she

584
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 1: shared a lot of information out. I think as she

585
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: got older she tended to be less focused on kind

586
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 1: of putting out content and more watching things. I was

587
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: able to get in contact with a group of virtual

588
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: friends that she had because she used the Discord application

589
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: quite a bit. She had actually gained some friends during

590
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: the COVID period that were located across the US through Discord.

591
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 1: She had flown to meet some of them on they

592
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: have a ski trip in Colorado last winter. We were

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00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: able to locate off off of a phone record at

594
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,280
Speaker 1: a conversation that she had had with one of those friends.

595
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 1: He was kind enough to bring me into their Discord

596
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: chat with a group of friends that they had to

597
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: share the news and see if they happen to have

598
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: any insights into who Aris might have been trying to

599
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: meet with, why Eris would have been there, if Eris

600
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 1: would have disappeared at all, And they've had no information

601
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,800
Speaker 1: or ideas they kind enough to share out because some

602
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: of them have computer kind of backgrounds and expertise. I'm

603
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: concerned about what you're saying about Discord because you know,

604
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: on Discord you can remain completely anonymous. Communication between anyone

605
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 1: can lee to exploitation and sextortion, right, And that is

606
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: my fear that someone she's speaking to on Discords that

607
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: I consider it a very dangerous platform. Nancy. It's it's

608
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: important to know that Airis had four different emails Gmail

609
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: accounts because she does her business and she has a

610
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: personal one. She has one form school. All of those

611
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,720
Speaker 1: had been logged out of every device. The only reason

612
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: that they were able to keep one of those open

613
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: for pinging was because Aris was logged into her IM

614
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 1: or her Apple computer at home. It was logged in

615
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: at home, so all of her locations were paused. All

616
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: of everything dicinct was turned off, and that was all

617
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:07,280
Speaker 1: from her phone. Yes, yes, okay, No, I'm very very concerned.

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Speaker 1: Alexis Terreschuck joining me crime online dot Com Airis would

619
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: not have turned everything off. And if she knew enough

620
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 1: to turn everything off, Alexis terres Chuck, she would have

621
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 1: also turned off for Apple computer at home. Nancy and

622
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 1: Jane's very suspicious and if you heard worrisome that this

623
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,439
Speaker 1: is happening, and the police have told me. I spoke

624
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: with the Sacramento Police Department yesterday and they said they

625
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 1: have no leads on this yet. They do not have

626
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: a suspect, They don't have anyone that they are looking at.

627
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 1: But she has completely managed into thin air. From as

628
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: everybody has said, you know, the fabulous sorties and sacrament

629
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Speaker 1: of the state capital of California. There couldn't be more

630
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 1: police teams in this city. That brings up a good point.

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Speaker 1: Charles Hammick is joining me. Aris's dad. What are police

632
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: telling you? First of all, I don't like what they

633
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,919
Speaker 1: said when they showed up. They just seemed to think

634
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: that she just kind of wandered off on her own.

635
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 1: I mean, what has their attitude being? What are they

636
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,240
Speaker 1: telling you? Thankfully, I think their perspective on this has changed,

637
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: Nancy over the past twenty four to forty eight hours,

638
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 1: A lot of it. Thankful to d and her help

639
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 1: just simply by talking with them and questioning them relative

640
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: to all the information we've been able to put together.

641
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 1: Right now, they have a detective assigned to the case.

642
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: They are considering her a missing person. Wait, they didn't

643
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 1: already consider her a missing person. They considered her a

644
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: missing person. They shared with us initially when we contacted

645
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: them and spoke with them Friday night Saturday morning, that

646
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,919
Speaker 1: they were putting it in as a missing person case.

647
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,720
Speaker 1: But it wasn't until yesterday that a detective was assigned

648
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 1: to the case and that we met with a detective

649
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,879
Speaker 1: and turned over her laptop and her phone for them

650
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 1: to do forensics. Song. Well, I'll be blunt d Ingram.

651
00:39:54,760 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 1: I mean, it's December thirteen. We've lost four days, lost

652
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 1: a lot of time we did, and we've had tips. Um,

653
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 1: we've had several in the last twenty four hours. Well,

654
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: the first one that came in, I guess was last

655
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 1: night and basically they said that on Friday night, Um,

656
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 1: somebody in I believe it was Modesto. Um, actually it

657
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 1: was Natomas Um that someone said that there was a

658
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,840
Speaker 1: white van parked in the parking lot and next to

659
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,399
Speaker 1: her car. Um being a female. She's like, that's odd,

660
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: that kind of scary. So she had someone at at

661
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 1: the store that she was in walk her out to

662
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:36,800
Speaker 1: her car. Well, there was supposedly a sighting of Eiris

663
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: and Charles can tell you more about that, and that

664
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: was near Na Thomas, which is right outside of the

665
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: area where we think she disappeared. Secondly, as of last night, UM,

666
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: there was a Facebook feed that someone took a screenshot

667
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: of and sent to the Hammocks that said that they

668
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 1: saw Eris. They're sure they saw Ris in Modesto UM

669
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 1: near mckinry, and that she was in a ros store.

670
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: That's all we have, and that she actually got into

671
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: a green sub These are things that the share of

672
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 1: the Brief Department has not been told. I don't believe.

673
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: I think Leilani said that she's sending all of this

674
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: to zach PD so that they would obtain some video

675
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: so we can confirm whether it was their US or not,

676
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 1: and we haven't heard anything back. I just want to

677
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 1: put this out there, Charles, and I think d Ingram

678
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: is going to be able to help you do this.

679
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: I would immediately start a website where people can and

680
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: you can see how they're doing it in the Idaho

681
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: students like the FBI has set up a tip a

682
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: video tip site where people that have pictures or think

683
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: they have pictures they can email, they can write in tips,

684
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 1: and they can upload any picture or video. Tell me

685
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: about the search effort, Charles, what are you guys doing.

686
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: We're doing all things. First, we're canvassing the area, speaking

687
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:07,439
Speaker 1: with any residence in that area that Aris was last seen,

688
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 1: talking to them, sharing her information flyers of course you

689
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 1: put up flyers, yeah, and also asking them if they

690
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 1: happen to have any video during that time frame between

691
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: when we know Aris arrived in that area until the

692
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 1: time that we arrived in the area and found the vehicle.

693
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 1: And why is it after you saw the video, you're convinced, Charles,

694
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 1: that she was looking for someone or some address. We

695
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,760
Speaker 1: know that we have the address that was plugged into

696
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 1: her phone, into her mapsap on her phone that leads

697
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: to that empty lot. We have video surveillance that shows

698
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: her walking back and forth this alley next to where

699
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: her vehicle is parked, looking as if she's speaking with

700
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: somebody and pacing back and forth with some sense of urgency.

701
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 1: We also know from one of the residents in the

702
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 1: area who said he spoke with Eiris that she was

703
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: looking for someone by the name of Chris, that she

704
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: was trying to find this address that did not exist,

705
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: and she seemed to be very agitated. The other thing, Nancy,

706
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 1: that we're very concerned by, and we don't know with

707
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: how much credibility there is with this, as we've canvassed

708
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: the area and as there's several many transients I should

709
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: say they're in that area, we shared with them the

710
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 1: flyers see if they may have seen her at all

711
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 1: during that time frame, and one of the transients that

712
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 1: we spoke with on Saturday indicated that Friday night they

713
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: asked them at about ten pm that they had Sawiris

714
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 1: and they described Arris fairly well. Well, we didn't have

715
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: flyers at this time, so she seemed to validate Aris's

716
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 1: appearance as well as Airis's general demeanor with my wife

717
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 1: that Aris approached her, she spoke with Aris briefly, and

718
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 1: that a white van had come by them and that

719
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 1: Airis was taken. Now, again, we don't have any evidence

720
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: of that so far other than that witness statement. We've

721
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 1: shared that information with the police as well as the

722
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 1: name of the transient and a description of the transient

723
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,800
Speaker 1: to try and get more information. You know what, Charles,

724
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 1: I find it really hard to believe that in this

725
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: area of the fab forty Christmas tour, all these mansions

726
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,879
Speaker 1: are decked out and that you know ice cream shop

727
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:46,240
Speaker 1: that is a destination that there is not video camera

728
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: surveillance not only of Aris, but the possible white van

729
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,800
Speaker 1: you're talking about. The white van that he's talking about

730
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: basically was not in that court where car was. The

731
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: white van was supposedly spotted underneath the underpass that that

732
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: that they could area leads to. So it's under the

733
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: freeway and I've looked in that area. I've approached some

734
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 1: of the houses there. There's no camera footage from that

735
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 1: underpass where the van supposedly was seen. And nand this

736
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 1: is Alexis, can I jump in? Yeah? So when I

737
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 1: spoke with the detective yesterday, there had also been a

738
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: tip that she had been taken by somebody and that

739
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 1: that person was living in a trailer under a bridge,

740
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 1: and the police said that they investigated this. They went

741
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: down there, they made contact with a person, but there

742
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: was no no signs of airis or anything like that,

743
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: so they had followed up with one tip to Charles Hammock.

744
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: What is your message to Airis, Airis and anyone listening

745
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: right now everyone in the world. Um, we love as

746
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: we hope that you're safe. If you would please contact

747
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: you know, anyone to get information to the Sacramento Police

748
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 1: Department or US at home to let us know that

749
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: you're safe. We want you to come back home and

750
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,879
Speaker 1: we will do anything that we can and move heaven

751
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: and earth to sit there and help you come home safely. Eiris,

752
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: We love him, miss you. We are praying for a

753
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 1: Christmas miracle. Help us. The tip line is nine one

754
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 1: six eight zero eight five four seven one. You hear

755
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:39,720
Speaker 1: Airis's father begging for your help. Nine six eight zero

756
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 1: eight five four seven one. Goodbye friend,