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Speaker 1: UMGC dot edu. Well big goings on in the NFL Today,

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Speaker 1: The Cowboys say Micah Parsons Week one, Brian Schottenneimer says, I'm.

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Speaker 4: Yelling it yeah.

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Speaker 1: Is Caleb Williams Tyson pagent the same quarterback storyline from

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Speaker 1: a decade ago?

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Speaker 4: We want to know joining us now. I'm the hot

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Speaker 4: line to break it all down.

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Speaker 1: Longtime friend of the show, NFL Insider Extraordinary Jason Locke

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Speaker 1: and fora Odyssey Washington Post one oh five seven The

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Speaker 1: fan in Baltimore, Jay, what's happening?

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Speaker 3: Man? Hey?

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Speaker 1: First of all, I know it was a very difficult day.

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Speaker 1: You held your breath for a long time. Today the

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson injury at practice turned out to be okay

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Speaker 1: and he is fine going forward. But I can imagine

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Speaker 1: what that must have been there for about ninety minutes

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Speaker 3: Uh. Yeah, I was actually not only radio today. I

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Speaker 3: just seems to be at least what they're saying. Nothing

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Speaker 3: to see here, got his footstepped on, should be good

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Speaker 3: to go. Obviously, should pay any attention to the Raven

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Speaker 3: to pretty much start right away. I don't think they're

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Speaker 3: it seems like nothing to see here, but anything with

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Speaker 4: So when you so, when you when you were driving

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Speaker 1: You saw that, did you say hey and you pulled

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Speaker 1: to keep hitting refreshed on social media, see what's happened.

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Speaker 3: We were we were on a train. We were on

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Speaker 5: So yeah, there you go, tell him to take a nap.

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Speaker 5: It'll all be good, as we will look at ahead

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Speaker 5: of here at Jason for the week that has been

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Speaker 1: from Fox Sports Radio Studios. Right now you add that

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Speaker 1: I don't think the Bears do all of this for

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Speaker 3: What is this an office done that's been particularly like that,

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Speaker 3: And I guess, like just tell me because like I'm

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Speaker 3: don't know, man, Like if it doesn't work with terriaboyas

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Speaker 3: I got news for you, Like this securing this kid

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Speaker 3: like all guts and you know, like let them run

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Speaker 3: Ben Johnson didn't go to to work with badget dude,

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Speaker 3: Like there's no bleeping way. Like if it doesn't work

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Speaker 3: I just think of your backup quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Well, I hear you, but I'm gonna let me give

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean I think the Bears part of it

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Speaker 3: Like that's just the reality. So you want him to

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Speaker 3: I mean, clearly they feel like he has value, But

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Speaker 3: I just don't I don't think that even they would you.

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Speaker 5: It is that he just encapsulated fifty years of my life.

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Speaker 5: In a very brief synopsis, it's Jason Locking for our guest,

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Speaker 5: Washington Post one O five to seven, the fan there

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Speaker 5: Micah's sitting there, the photo scene around the world. It's

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Speaker 5: now eleventh hour. Jared, Jared, who blinks.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, look, I think they get they pay him.

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Speaker 3: I mean that's what these things generally in a certain way,

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Speaker 3: and it's with Jerry making somebody, you know, bestowing the

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Speaker 3: in games that start mattering real soon here, and it

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Speaker 3: all has just been, you know, just what he wants.

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Speaker 3: The prelude and the preamble is more important and more

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Speaker 1: Mike Harmon. Now, one of the things you hear Mike

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Speaker 4: Well, that's the beautia of it.

435
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Speaker 5: You bring in all these other voices and ideas from

436
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Speaker 5: people who have turned other things around. You mentioned John

437
00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:51,000
Speaker 5: Henry theo Epstein part of the group as well, Right,

438
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:56,399
Speaker 5: did massive, miraculous work in Boston and then with the

439
00:21:56,440 --> 00:22:02,200
Speaker 5: Cups in terms of building an enterprise, a foundation, uh

440
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:07,879
Speaker 5: and pushing ahead into huge success and continued success. So

441
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,919
Speaker 5: now now you look at it from the idea of

442
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:14,560
Speaker 5: live golf, I think there was some hope that either

443
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 5: the players would miss and you've had some complaints, right,

444
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,480
Speaker 5: we don't our stuff doesn't count here and and we're

445
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 5: not included here, and and there's a little bit of that,

446
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Speaker 5: and you know, hey, you made your choice and took

447
00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 5: your money. But I think from the organizational side of things,

448
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 5: there was a ad, don't worry, it'll it'll run its course.

449
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:35,240
Speaker 4: Right.

450
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,240
Speaker 5: We talked about it a couple of years ago. It's like, ah,

451
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 5: they'll get tired of putting money in. No, there's an

452
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:43,480
Speaker 5: endless reservoir of money that'll keep flowing in for live golf.

453
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Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's not going away.

454
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Speaker 5: So as so long as the players keep getting fat

455
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 5: with giant checks, you're not going to bridge that gap

456
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Speaker 5: of guys suddenly running back to the tour. Some might

457
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Speaker 5: as they fall out of favor, and whatever the travel

458
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 5: schedules and whatever they decide they want to go back

459
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:08,120
Speaker 5: because of legacy, history, fans getting on them, whatever amount

460
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:12,920
Speaker 5: of outside of influences may be there. But in terms

461
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Speaker 5: of your organization, trying to figure out how you become

462
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Speaker 5: more of an issue. I mean, look, we talk Scottie

463
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Speaker 5: Scheffler a little bit, but it's usually kind of a

464
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 5: mention of, wow, he's on another great run.

465
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Speaker 4: He won again.

466
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Speaker 5: But other than him showing up and happy, happy Gilmore too,

467
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Speaker 5: Like he showed more life in those scenes than he's

468
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Speaker 5: ever done at a podium.

469
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Speaker 4: And that's fine, that's who he is.

470
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Speaker 5: But you're trying to find a star, you know, chasing

471
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Speaker 5: John Daily round also happy Gilmore too. Is it gonna

472
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Speaker 5: get you to be like, he's not coming out into

473
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Speaker 5: playing competitive golf, right, Tiger's not walking back through that door.

474
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 5: All of those things of you've got some great players,

475
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Speaker 5: but you don't have guys that are huge personalities. And

476
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Speaker 5: you're trying to draw people not only back to the

477
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Speaker 5: television or back out to the course. The golf fans

478
00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 5: are still gonna be there, but you're trying to find

479
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Speaker 5: the those folks that you know, might be, Hey, the

480
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 5: tour's coming in, right. I talked to a guy that

481
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 5: out here in southern California today. Actually he was going

482
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Speaker 5: to visit his son, Lived Golf is doing an event

483
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Speaker 5: in Michigan. He was going out for a couple of

484
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 5: days to go see that, right, thinking, Hey, that would

485
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 5: be It's a different thing. That's what the PGA needs again.

486
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,680
Speaker 5: They got to figure out how to make it. Hey,

487
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 5: you know it's it's coming to your town. How do

488
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 5: we get out there, meet and greets come and you know,

489
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,120
Speaker 5: go to the driving range and take a shot or two.

490
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Speaker 5: Whatever the inn is to get folks excited about it.

491
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Speaker 5: And here's a great first step. Now here's where hope

492
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Speaker 5: becomes a strategy.

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Speaker 1: Okay, this is this is exactly where hope becomes a

494
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Speaker 1: strategy because all this is great, right, All this is awesome, right, great.

495
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 4: Stuff for PGA tour figuring things out. But this is

496
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Speaker 4: where hope is a strategy.

497
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Speaker 1: Is that the PGA Tour sits here and has to

498
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Speaker 1: hope because this is where the good times will show

499
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,119
Speaker 1: up again and people are gonna say, man, this is

500
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Speaker 1: just like when Tiger Woods was around.

501
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 4: This is awesome. They have to hope.

502
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 1: That Charlie Woods in two or three years shows up

503
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 1: and is great, because if Tiger Woods' kid shows up

504
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 1: and really, look, he's high school golf right now. To look,

505
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,400
Speaker 1: Tiger Woods turn pro, you know, coming out of Stanford,

506
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,639
Speaker 1: he was in his early twenties. So it's still a

507
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,160
Speaker 1: couple of years away for Charlie Woods, right, He's still

508
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 1: probably probably two or three years now. You never know,

509
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 1: the next couple of years his game could really blossom

510
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 1: even more. One of the best young players in the

511
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 1: country right now. But if Charlie Woods comes in and

512
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 1: starts doing damage and winning tournaments, all he could do

513
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,679
Speaker 1: is win one tournament, all of a sudden interests in

514
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 1: the PGA tour boom. It blows back up to Tiger

515
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Speaker 1: Woods type levels. Here's Tiger Woods's kid. Is he gonna

516
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Speaker 1: be better than Tiger? Can he win majors?

517
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Speaker 4: Now?

518
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Speaker 1: What's gonna be his right? Will he have them with Rory?

519
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,920
Speaker 1: Will he have with Jordan Speith? What does Tiger think

520
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 1: of this? And suddenly Tiger gets an entirely new run

521
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 1: because now he's Charlie Woods's dead. Will they play together

522
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,119
Speaker 1: in the same tournaments against each other? You get a

523
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 1: bron brawny situation. If Charlie Woods is really good, golf

524
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 1: is gonna sit here and say, we just solved our

525
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 1: problems for the next fifteen years. We have fifteen I

526
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 1: can go and sit in a hammock and have a

527
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Speaker 1: beer and tell live golf blank. You guys, we got

528
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Speaker 1: Tiger's kids, because you know, Tiger's kid's not going to

529
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Speaker 1: live golf, right. Tiger talked about how big the PGA

530
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Speaker 1: Tour has been and important to him throughout. He wants

531
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Speaker 1: to tour to succeed as much as Tiger Woods is.

532
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,239
Speaker 1: Pretty much he is loyal to himself. He's got that.

533
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Speaker 1: Next loyalty is to the PGA Tour. If Charlie Woods

534
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: is good, they buy fifteen years of the fast Lane.

535
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 1: And like I said, all Charlie Woods has to do

536
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 1: is just win one tournament once and it's all all

537
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 1: the attention with him and the majors. Charlie Woods is

538
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 1: in contention. It's Tiger's kid, all the storylines right themselves.

539
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 1: That's all the PGA Tour needs.

540
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Speaker 5: That is really good. Deep hope, hope, hope can be

541
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Speaker 5: a strategy.

542
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 4: No, that's it.

543
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Speaker 5: I mean, you know you bust it out a candle

544
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 5: and maybe fifteen more of them. I'm going to condense

545
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 5: all of what you just said down to one word

546
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,360
Speaker 5: cloning now hear me out.

547
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 4: Genetics or one thing.

548
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 5: But getting into where we've got, you know, a droid army,

549
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 5: you know, not a droid army, but you know we

550
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 5: replicate old django fet and we go down the line.

551
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 5: You know we we can do that. No, I like

552
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 5: your theory, and it certainly would work. He's got to

553
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 5: be in contentionent in one big tournament and the camera

554
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 5: flashes and everything start to roll.

555
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 4: He wins one. Great.

556
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,439
Speaker 5: How about we take our Simpsons analogies, as we do,

557
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 5: because we got thirty five forty seasons worth of material

558
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 5: at this point, and we go back to when Homer

559
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 5: joined the Stonecutters. Remember what happened? Oh no, you got it.

560
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 5: What's that's a royal sampler?

561
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 4: You win again?

562
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 3: Yay.

563
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 5: That's what we need to happen for Charlie.

564
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 4: Where did this ball go? Don't know?

565
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 5: Don't know that the camera lost it or did it.

566
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 5: That's all that needs to happen. Tell me, man, that's it. Hope,

567
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 5: that is the greatest hope and wishing strategy. I mean

568
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 5: that's better than anything you've ever come up with for

569
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 5: the Jets.

570
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, manh yeah, Well, because I could say, Okay,

571
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 1: what's a better hope?

572
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 4: Boy, I hope Justin Fields is good? Or I hope Charlie,

573
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:29,640
Speaker 4: what's this good? What's the better hope? Punt? Yeah?

574
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 1: I mean really, I mean that's that's what it is, right,

575
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: that's what what else?

576
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 4: What else can you say?

577
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: Oh no, No, that's absolutely a h that's that's absolutely strategy.

578
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 5: You know what's great about Charlie Woods though he doesn't

579
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 5: even have to be the twelfth to fifteenth best.

580
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 4: On itamp.

581
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 1: I look, but that's the thing is that is that

582
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: if Brownie was really good, Right, just think about this

583
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: for a second, right, compare this to where it's at.

584
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 4: Like, here's the NBA.

585
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 1: If Bronnie James came in and was amazingly good, right,

586
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 1: doesn't he even need to be the best player? Does

587
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: he need to come in and be Wemby? Doesn't he

588
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: need to come in and be someone like that? But

589
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: if he just came in and was really really good

590
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: and he can be a star shooting guard, the NBA

591
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: solved their problems for the who's taking the tour from

592
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: lebron who's the face of the league. They solved their

593
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 1: problems for the next ten plus years as well. But

594
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: Bronnie isn't he's a he's a he's a he's a

595
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 1: fun story and maybe he gets better and and he's

596
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: still kind of fun to talk about, but he's not

597
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,959
Speaker 1: gonna stir the conversation or push the league forward.

598
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 4: He's not.

599
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: He's never gonna be the face of the NBA. But

600
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: if he was really and again doesn't need to be

601
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 1: just like Charlie Woods. If he's really good, like if

602
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: he wins once and shows that, hey, he has the

603
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 1: potential to win a Major one day, he can do

604
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: that and clearly be in Tiger Woods kid. I don't

605
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 1: know why you would say not. I'd have to go

606
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: into DNA, but I'm pretty sure that can happen. I

607
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 1: can find Professor Frank to come in and tell me

608
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: those things without the Charlie and the Woods and what

609
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 1: But uh, if that, if that was the case, just

610
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: think about where the NBA would be and the PGA

611
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: Tour is really on a on a on a really

612
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: good path. I mean, I'm getting you're crossing your fingers

613
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: and hoping. But clearly Charlie Woods is progressing. He's he's

614
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: that kind of talent. Bronnie never came in as Hey,

615
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 1: he's a transcendental talent. At least you know Charlie Woods is. Hey,

616
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: he's working up towards it.

617
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 3: Man.

618
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: You see what he's doing seeing in some tournaments already.

619
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Speaker 1: If he is, if he is really good man, the

620
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 1: PGA tourist saying we're back, Man, We're back.

621
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Speaker 4: We're not going anywhere.

622
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 1: Man, you can write us in, just like it was

623
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: for Tiger Woods for the most of the late nineteen

624
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 1: nineties into the twenty tens. We are Tiger, we are

625
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 1: Woods driven again.

626
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Speaker 5: The problem is you have to now cut out the

627
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 5: last four minutes of the analysis from any audio transcript

628
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 5: to this, because now they're gonna say, why are we

629
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 5: gonna pay the consultants.

630
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 4: Consultants are all mad at you.

631
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Speaker 5: The hoping strategy is one it's like, wait, that doesn't

632
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 5: cost us anything. We just have to sit on our

633
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 5: asses and wait and see what happens, and then we

634
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 5: can deal with it four years from now. Whereas if

635
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 5: we actively try I had to tell them all the

636
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 5: things that they could be doing we get billable hours.

637
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 4: There we go. That's how it works.

638
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 5: That's my Carmen consultancy coming in here.

639
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: Exit out about a Fresca exit swollen down the Jason

640
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: Smith Show with my best friend Mike Carmon. Now I

641
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 1: have a request what we're going to say here, because

642
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: now see what we're doing here on the show when

643
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: we throw to to Moncey and Steve.

644
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 4: We are starting to get requests on how to do it.

645
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 4: A wow, Moncey's going to crush tyshirt.

646
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 1: This is from Ralph who says, Jason, here's how you

647
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: should throw to Moncey, amn of someone who's been called

648
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: the Enrique Iglesias a Fox Sports Radio because it's not

649
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: by Lamos, it's Bolognos, it's Moncey.

650
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 7: Ah, that's pretty incredible. Actually, that's the I wonder if

651
00:31:55,320 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 7: Ralph has heard Jonas Knox and I sing that song

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Speaker 7: as we do the update.

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Speaker 4: Oh okay, so wow, wow, you actually sing that song.

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Speaker 7: But we gotta you gotta go to like the chorus

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Speaker 7: and then it goes you know, we we we get

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Speaker 7: into it, we sing it. Yes, it's great, nicely done, guys. Yes,

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Speaker 7: this is fun. Does it doesn't this song make you

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Speaker 7: want to literally dance by Lamos gets in without trying

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Speaker 7: to wait.

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Speaker 4: Isn't that the forbidden dance?

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Speaker 5: That let us dance, Yhall, we dance together. That's right,

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Speaker 5: that's right, that's all dance.

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Speaker 4: I love I love them.

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Speaker 5: Let's go watch the movie there?

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Speaker 4: Why not?

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Speaker 2: Why not?

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Speaker 7: We got two baseball games still going on, fellas. We'll

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Speaker 7: start in San Diego where the padre Is just keep

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Speaker 7: extending their lead over the Giants at six to one

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Speaker 7: bottom of the sixth thing, and the Angels have taken

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Speaker 7: the lead from the Reds two to one bottom of

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Speaker 7: the eighth inning in Anaheim. What happened earlier today while

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Speaker 7: the Rockies took down the Dodgers in Colorado. Eight to

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Speaker 7: three was the final score. Shoey O Tani started things

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Speaker 7: off on the mound for La. He pitched five innings,

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Speaker 7: gave up nine hits and five earned runs. The Yankees

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Speaker 7: have won five in a row. They outscored the race

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Speaker 7: six to four and ten innings. Young Carlos Stein pinch

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Speaker 7: inning in the tenth inning and he hit that two

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Speaker 7: run shot to take the lead and they hold on.

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Speaker 7: The Cups held on four to three against the Brewers

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Speaker 7: for their third straight win against Milwaukee. Nationals top the

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Speaker 7: Mets five to four, and the Rangers took the lead

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Speaker 7: in the ninth inning and won six to three against

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Speaker 7: the Royals, while the A's top the Twins four to

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Speaker 7: two in ten innings. In NFL news, the Bear sign

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Speaker 7: backup quarterback Tyson bije In to a two year contract extension.

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Speaker 7: Saints coach Kellen Moore said both Tyler Shuk and Spencer

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Speaker 7: Rattler will play in their final preseason game. Bengals head

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Speaker 7: coach Sack Taylor tour reporters that Joe Burrow and the

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Speaker 7: starters will not play in their final preseason game. And yes,

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Speaker 7: there was a scare for Ravens fans as Jackson left

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Speaker 7: practice earlier today, but he just had his foot stepped on.

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Speaker 7: The raven stole reporters that Jackson is fine. The Jets

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Speaker 7: had a secret practice Jason without the media, without assistant coaches,

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Speaker 7: and then Garrett Wilson tells a social media influencer about it,

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Speaker 7: and that's how people started finding out. Moves that have

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Speaker 7: happened in the NFL. The Chiefs are sending wide receiver

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Speaker 7: Skymore to the forty nine ers, and the league has

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Speaker 7: suspended Niners wide receiver JaMarcus Robinson for the first three

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Speaker 7: games of the regular season for violating the league's substance

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Speaker 7: abuse policy. Back to you guys, all.

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Speaker 1: Right now, Mantia, let me just say this. Okay, Aaron

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Speaker 1: Glenn was at the practice.

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Speaker 4: He was the only kid twice. Yes, But what I

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Speaker 4: heard this story.

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Speaker 1: The last thing I wanted to hear was, please don't

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Speaker 1: tell me somebody got hurt at this player's only practice.

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Speaker 4: That's not fair. Please tell me that nobody got hurt

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Speaker 4: at this player's.

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Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, totally Yeah.

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Speaker 7: You must have been holding your breath right absolutely.

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Speaker 4: Hey, coach, Yeah, listen. So here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: Sauce and and Garrett got tangled up at this player's

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Speaker 1: only practice, and uh yeah.

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Speaker 4: It's not looking good.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what to tell you.

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Speaker 5: I was it a wwe tryout some paintball, water balloons,

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Speaker 5: water slide, Like, what are we talking here?

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Speaker 1: Oh, thank you very much for get Welcome Jason Smith

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Speaker 1: Mike Harmon live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

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Speaker 4: Coming up next.

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Speaker 1: It's been a while, but after the big news today,

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Speaker 1: you want a Caitlyn Clark hot take? Oh, we got

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Speaker 1: a Caitlyn Clark hot take. That's next right here, Jason

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Speaker 1: and Mike Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 4: And the Dodgers locked in the Rockies eight two three, and.

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Speaker 1: The Mets lost to the Nationals six two five.

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Speaker 4: It's a one run loss for New York. I can't

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Speaker 4: believe it. When does McLean pitch again? Has been raised.

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Speaker 2: The Forbidden Dance. Be sure to catch live editions of

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Speaker 2: The Jason's Mythshow with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern,

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Speaker 2: seven pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with My best

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Speaker 1: Friend Mike Harmon. Now, if you're hoping Caitlin Clark was

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Speaker 1: gonna come back to play in the WNBA this season

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Speaker 1: right now the Indiana Fever saying, well, the plan is

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Speaker 1: for her to return before the season ends. Don't know

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Speaker 1: if that took a dent earlier today, where a WNBA

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Speaker 1: source confirmed to ESPN the Caitlin Clark suffered a bone

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Speaker 1: bruise on her left ankle during a workout earlier this month.

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Speaker 1: That she's been rehabbing the ankle concurrently with her right

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Speaker 1: groin injury that's kept her out for the past month.

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Speaker 1: Plus the WNBA season. Still no timetable for her return.

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Speaker 1: The big update we got a day ago was, Hey,

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Speaker 1: they're hoping that she can come back at some point

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Speaker 1: before the regular season ends. The big quote from Stephanie

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Speaker 1: White was quote, until she can get into practice and

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Speaker 1: until you guys see her in practice, it's really status quo.

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Speaker 1: So early, we're waiting for the next time we see

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Speaker 1: Caitlin Clark lasen up for practice, and then maybe we

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Speaker 1: get some sort of timeline. But I want to throw

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Speaker 1: this out there because I'm not a doctor, but in

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Speaker 1: observing and covering sports for the better part of the

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Speaker 1: last you know, near three decades, now I want to

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Speaker 1: say this.

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Speaker 4: This is the third.

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Speaker 1: Muscle injury and not counting this boat, which is an

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Speaker 1: addition her groin injury is the third muscle injury she

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Speaker 1: has suffered this year. Now, what did Caitlin Clark do

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Speaker 1: in the off season? Worked out a ton, right, you

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Speaker 1: saw her body, got in the gym, worked out a bunch.

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Speaker 1: You know when you first saw the pictures of her,

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Speaker 1: of her triceps.

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Speaker 4: And her BiCon.

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Speaker 1: Oh, she's jacked, she's stronger. She went wild in the

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Speaker 1: gym in the off season to bulk up, be stronger.

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Speaker 1: This is a natural thing that players do. The good

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Speaker 1: news is that you know, hey, if it's what I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna throw out there, well, you know you live and

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Speaker 1: learn on it, and it's okay. It's part of being

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Speaker 1: an athlete and what your body needs to thrive. But

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Speaker 1: this wouldn't be the f and again, not a doctor,

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Speaker 1: not a doctor. I like the end of Brooklyn nine nine.

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Speaker 1: Not a doctor, not a doctor. But this wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: the first time you have seen someone suffer multiple muscle

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Speaker 1: injuries because of too much working out or too much

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Speaker 1: stress on your muscles by working out when they haven't

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Speaker 1: gone through it before. You know, you want to think

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Speaker 1: when you're young and you're working out, you can do

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Speaker 1: whatever you want to. But you know, this is three

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Speaker 1: muscle injuries for Katelyn Clock, who had a lot of

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Speaker 1: time off.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: It's not like she spent you know, she finished the

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Speaker 1: end of the WNBA season.

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Speaker 4: There was no basketball. She was done.

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Speaker 1: You know, she had the big month off, no Olympics,

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Speaker 1: everything else. She still worked out all the time, right,

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Speaker 1: what you have to do as an athlete, but there

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Speaker 1: was no basketball. She came in, she was rested, ready

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Speaker 1: but you see three muscle injuries, and I wonder just

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Speaker 1: what what was her workout situation like in the off

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Speaker 1: season did you push your muscles too much to the

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Speaker 1: point where, hey, you got to understand there's a happy

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Speaker 1: medium of what you can do to your body to

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Speaker 1: try to get it stronger from time to time. Again,

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Speaker 1: not a doctor, but I've seen this many times now

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Speaker 1: to be able to say, hey, when you see numerous

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Speaker 1: muscle injuries in a season, you go back and someone

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Speaker 1: worked out a ton in the offseason and worked out

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Speaker 1: maybe how you've not worked out before? H Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think there's a correlation there.

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Speaker 5: Change your workouts, change your strength, trainings, train all that

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Speaker 5: U And I mean we see it with growth spurts, right,

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Speaker 5: I mean, look a look at the history of of

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Speaker 5: NBA big men. We were talking about John Wall and

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Speaker 5: we immediately start getting into you know, Joel Embiid and

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Speaker 5: some of the other guys that came into the NBA

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Speaker 5: about the time Wall did, and how many of those

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Speaker 5: guys had foot and ankle problems. How many times do

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Speaker 5: we see, as you know, we watch our kids, maybe

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Speaker 5: our kids friends and those that they're competing with, that

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Speaker 5: there's just a difference as they get to that next

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Speaker 5: level and go through that maturation that the body doesn't

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Speaker 5: always grow everything, you know, properly at the same time. Right,

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Speaker 5: there's there's a curve to it. Likewise with Caitlin Clark

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Speaker 5: putting on some muscle, changing the regimen, different torque on

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Speaker 5: your system, on your joints, all of that stuff that

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Speaker 5: it that it comes back on you.

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Speaker 1: I look, it's it's again. And I don't I'm be

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Speaker 1: the first person to tell you.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I just know the correlation there between the two and

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Speaker 1: that this is somebody she's been healthy her entire career, right,

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Speaker 1: this this is a new thing for her, right. And

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Speaker 1: and three muscle injury. Look the bone bruise that happens, right,

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Speaker 1: that's one of those things that's unfor sure, it happens.

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Speaker 1: But you know, muscle injuries. That's the thing, man, when

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Speaker 1: when you're getting to that this is not hey, you

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Speaker 1: know I bang my I bang my knee against somebody,

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Speaker 1: or you know, by my thumb got bent back after

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Speaker 1: grabbing a basketball and you can say it's bad luck,

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Speaker 1: it's these are these are different muscle injuries up and

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Speaker 1: around and I really, you know, want to look back

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Speaker 1: and see, Okay, what was what were her workouts?

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Speaker 4: Like, what was that is?

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Speaker 1: I mean, at the very least, it's something that you

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Speaker 1: have to look into and say, okay, what did I

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Speaker 1: do and could that be something that had an effect

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Speaker 1: on this now because here she is missing the majority

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Speaker 1: of the season, you know, when she had a lot

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Speaker 1: of time off coming into it.

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Speaker 5: Well, trying to figure out where that sweet spot is.

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Speaker 5: And for the WNBA, all right, Angel Reese is back,

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Speaker 5: but you don't have that fae and then Sophie Cunningham's

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Speaker 5: lost for the year.

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Speaker 1: We've lost it all. Exit out bout a Fresca, Exit

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Speaker 1: swollen Dome. Jason Smith Mike Harmon Live from the Fox

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