1 00:00:05,496 --> 00:00:07,696 Speaker 1: Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is 2 00:00:07,736 --> 00:00:13,496 Speaker 1: a production of the NFL and iHeart Podcasts. We got lots, 3 00:00:13,536 --> 00:00:16,976 Speaker 1: just said, we got lots. 4 00:00:17,336 --> 00:00:18,056 Speaker 2: Just say. 5 00:00:20,616 --> 00:00:24,056 Speaker 3: What Becker here and we hold you stay because. 6 00:00:23,776 --> 00:00:28,896 Speaker 2: We got lots. Just say yeah, we got lots, Just 7 00:00:29,056 --> 00:00:32,576 Speaker 2: say here's Bobby. 8 00:00:32,616 --> 00:00:39,415 Speaker 4: That like negative thirty as we do this podcast. The 9 00:00:39,455 --> 00:00:42,616 Speaker 4: games this past weekend were like negative thirty the games 10 00:00:42,656 --> 00:00:44,175 Speaker 4: coming up because we got one of billion one in 11 00:00:44,256 --> 00:00:44,856 Speaker 4: Kansas City. 12 00:00:45,296 --> 00:00:48,256 Speaker 5: It should be just talk about that for a second. 13 00:00:48,616 --> 00:00:53,135 Speaker 4: Meaning all I can relate it to is either hunting 14 00:00:53,856 --> 00:00:56,576 Speaker 4: and it's still hunting, miserable, just sitting there up against 15 00:00:56,616 --> 00:01:00,016 Speaker 4: a tree awful, or like high school football but we 16 00:01:00,056 --> 00:01:03,096 Speaker 4: didn't play in December, or it's the same similar weather 17 00:01:03,136 --> 00:01:05,576 Speaker 4: but it would be cold, but like that looked miser. 18 00:01:06,256 --> 00:01:08,016 Speaker 2: It is miserable. I'm not gonna lie. 19 00:01:08,136 --> 00:01:11,056 Speaker 6: And I've been in games where we had one in 20 00:01:11,136 --> 00:01:13,056 Speaker 6: Green Bay that was negative five at the start of 21 00:01:13,096 --> 00:01:14,856 Speaker 6: the game. We had one in Kansas City that was 22 00:01:14,976 --> 00:01:18,336 Speaker 6: negative five even any anything under fifteen degrees, And when 23 00:01:18,376 --> 00:01:21,416 Speaker 6: you have wind as a factor too, it is just 24 00:01:21,536 --> 00:01:22,856 Speaker 6: it cuts through. 25 00:01:22,656 --> 00:01:23,816 Speaker 2: And you're warming up. 26 00:01:23,856 --> 00:01:27,496 Speaker 6: And I still to this day, I give so much 27 00:01:27,536 --> 00:01:29,056 Speaker 6: credit to those guys that can go out there and 28 00:01:29,056 --> 00:01:30,776 Speaker 6: play without sleeves, because I was one of those guys. 29 00:01:30,816 --> 00:01:32,976 Speaker 2: I was like, there's no chance I'm wearing sleeves. I've 30 00:01:32,976 --> 00:01:34,736 Speaker 2: got to bundle up. I've got to have the warmers 31 00:01:34,776 --> 00:01:35,096 Speaker 2: in there. 32 00:01:35,136 --> 00:01:37,696 Speaker 6: They put the heat packs inside the warmers, so there's 33 00:01:37,736 --> 00:01:39,696 Speaker 6: little subtle things you can do, but there's just no 34 00:01:39,816 --> 00:01:42,536 Speaker 6: getting out of those elements. And then in addition to that, 35 00:01:43,096 --> 00:01:46,816 Speaker 6: it's anybody that handles the ball. The ball just changes dramatically. 36 00:01:46,896 --> 00:01:50,296 Speaker 6: It's slick, it's hardens up, so you just from a 37 00:01:50,296 --> 00:01:51,256 Speaker 6: grip standpoint. 38 00:01:51,296 --> 00:01:52,136 Speaker 2: And also those runners. 39 00:01:52,176 --> 00:01:55,336 Speaker 6: You saw multiple turnovers this weekend and it was just 40 00:01:55,416 --> 00:01:58,456 Speaker 6: a basic play one with lamar One with the running 41 00:01:58,456 --> 00:02:02,656 Speaker 6: back for the la Rams where they're just running with 42 00:02:02,696 --> 00:02:05,296 Speaker 6: the ball and they it's a simple hit that normally 43 00:02:05,376 --> 00:02:06,496 Speaker 6: they'll hold onto the ball. 44 00:02:06,296 --> 00:02:08,256 Speaker 2: But because it's so slick, it just comes out. 45 00:02:08,335 --> 00:02:12,736 Speaker 6: So ball security is paramount, paramount in all those type 46 00:02:12,736 --> 00:02:13,696 Speaker 6: of situations. 47 00:02:14,256 --> 00:02:18,456 Speaker 4: Adrenaline doesn't make up for the cold. That's a question 48 00:02:18,496 --> 00:02:21,056 Speaker 4: at the end of the night, like at what point it. 49 00:02:21,376 --> 00:02:22,376 Speaker 2: Does to a certain degree. 50 00:02:22,416 --> 00:02:24,696 Speaker 6: And look, I've had teammates they used to take a 51 00:02:24,736 --> 00:02:27,416 Speaker 6: shot of something before they would run out, just anything 52 00:02:27,696 --> 00:02:28,775 Speaker 6: to get that blood. 53 00:02:28,456 --> 00:02:30,536 Speaker 2: Boiling a little bit when you run around. 54 00:02:30,576 --> 00:02:32,376 Speaker 6: One of the tricks of the trade that I learned 55 00:02:32,416 --> 00:02:34,096 Speaker 6: early on was from Tom Brady. And we might have 56 00:02:34,136 --> 00:02:36,696 Speaker 6: talked about this before, but we're in the locker room. 57 00:02:36,776 --> 00:02:38,376 Speaker 6: It's going to be a cold game. It's like seventeen 58 00:02:38,416 --> 00:02:40,296 Speaker 6: degrees outside, a little bit of wind, a little bit 59 00:02:40,296 --> 00:02:42,416 Speaker 6: of sleep, and I see him putting on like a 60 00:02:42,456 --> 00:02:44,656 Speaker 6: half wet suit, and I'm like, what are you doing 61 00:02:44,736 --> 00:02:46,856 Speaker 6: right now? I've never seen it before, and he said, 62 00:02:46,936 --> 00:02:48,856 Speaker 6: I wear a wet suit when the conditions are like 63 00:02:48,896 --> 00:02:50,656 Speaker 6: this because it insulates my body. And then he just 64 00:02:50,656 --> 00:02:52,656 Speaker 6: would wear a little half sleeve over the top of it. 65 00:02:52,696 --> 00:02:54,976 Speaker 6: But he was warm as can be. So I went 66 00:02:54,976 --> 00:02:56,736 Speaker 6: to the equipment manager and asked if I could, and 67 00:02:56,776 --> 00:02:58,256 Speaker 6: he's like, well, you're gonna have to pay for your own. 68 00:02:58,296 --> 00:02:59,536 Speaker 2: I was like, I figured that. 69 00:02:59,856 --> 00:03:02,776 Speaker 6: I figured I would, so I ordered one, and it 70 00:03:02,936 --> 00:03:05,976 Speaker 6: is an absolute game changer because you put that on 71 00:03:06,096 --> 00:03:08,776 Speaker 6: and it just the heat is insulated inside your body 72 00:03:08,776 --> 00:03:11,136 Speaker 6: and you don't feel the elements like you would if 73 00:03:11,176 --> 00:03:14,056 Speaker 6: you just wore a normal type of cloth or anything 74 00:03:14,056 --> 00:03:16,016 Speaker 6: that they have even for these cold weather games, and 75 00:03:16,296 --> 00:03:17,576 Speaker 6: I did that for the rest of my career in 76 00:03:17,616 --> 00:03:18,536 Speaker 6: any cold weather games. 77 00:03:18,576 --> 00:03:19,216 Speaker 2: That's interesting. 78 00:03:19,256 --> 00:03:21,615 Speaker 4: I did a couple Olympic trath lines, and there's part 79 00:03:21,616 --> 00:03:23,776 Speaker 4: of it where you swim the mile or so and 80 00:03:23,776 --> 00:03:26,176 Speaker 4: you're in a wet suit because it's freaking cold, right. 81 00:03:26,016 --> 00:03:26,976 Speaker 5: And you don't feel cold. 82 00:03:27,016 --> 00:03:28,856 Speaker 4: Your face feels cold because that's hit in the water, right, 83 00:03:29,016 --> 00:03:31,616 Speaker 4: but the rest is warm. But then I think, how 84 00:03:31,696 --> 00:03:35,616 Speaker 4: much can you actually move your arms, because mine, obviously 85 00:03:35,736 --> 00:03:39,416 Speaker 4: not meant for throwing, was super tight. Are there like 86 00:03:39,576 --> 00:03:41,536 Speaker 4: do you cut slits in certain parts of the armors 87 00:03:41,536 --> 00:03:43,096 Speaker 4: that just ad a different type of wetsuit. 88 00:03:42,816 --> 00:03:44,376 Speaker 2: So you could cut a slit underneath it. 89 00:03:44,416 --> 00:03:46,656 Speaker 6: But also it's all based on I guess it's by 90 00:03:46,656 --> 00:03:49,016 Speaker 6: the millimeter the thickness of it, and so you try 91 00:03:49,056 --> 00:03:52,576 Speaker 6: to get to a certain certain amount, like I don't 92 00:03:52,576 --> 00:03:56,496 Speaker 6: even know what it was ten as possible because then 93 00:03:56,536 --> 00:03:58,736 Speaker 6: you still had the range of motion, the flexibility because 94 00:03:58,736 --> 00:04:00,176 Speaker 6: some of those that we put on early on. 95 00:04:00,256 --> 00:04:01,696 Speaker 2: When I tried it on, I. 96 00:04:01,616 --> 00:04:03,816 Speaker 6: Was like, dude, I can't even move like you said, 97 00:04:03,856 --> 00:04:06,096 Speaker 6: you can't reach over your head. You're like, throwing motions 98 00:04:06,136 --> 00:04:08,096 Speaker 6: gonna be messed up and be throwing like Philip Rivers 99 00:04:08,096 --> 00:04:11,616 Speaker 6: out here side arm. But once you find the right one, 100 00:04:12,256 --> 00:04:16,176 Speaker 6: it worked out great. That's the move, that's the move. 101 00:04:16,336 --> 00:04:19,256 Speaker 4: Thinking back, I wish I wore a wet suit when 102 00:04:19,296 --> 00:04:20,736 Speaker 4: I was an avid hunter because that. 103 00:04:20,936 --> 00:04:22,776 Speaker 2: Sucked ball an avid hunter? 104 00:04:23,096 --> 00:04:23,256 Speaker 6: Did? 105 00:04:23,296 --> 00:04:24,815 Speaker 5: I grew up in the woods in Arkansas, like my 106 00:04:24,856 --> 00:04:26,976 Speaker 5: whole life now I'm good. 107 00:04:26,856 --> 00:04:28,976 Speaker 2: Deer hunting, turkey hunting, everything. 108 00:04:29,096 --> 00:04:30,936 Speaker 5: Yes, duck hunting, deer, honey, turkey hunting. 109 00:04:31,015 --> 00:04:31,895 Speaker 2: I love this about you. 110 00:04:32,015 --> 00:04:34,135 Speaker 5: I got a four ten at eleven years old. 111 00:04:34,575 --> 00:04:37,815 Speaker 2: Wow, And did they wipe the blood on your face 112 00:04:37,815 --> 00:04:39,056 Speaker 2: and do that whole ceremony? 113 00:04:39,496 --> 00:04:42,455 Speaker 5: No, no ceremony. It was mostly like my stepdad because 114 00:04:42,496 --> 00:04:44,256 Speaker 5: I never knew my real dad. But my stepdad took me. 115 00:04:44,215 --> 00:04:49,015 Speaker 4: Out at like eleven and we shot, and that was 116 00:04:49,056 --> 00:04:51,895 Speaker 4: just him going, I'm teaching a gun safety without saying 117 00:04:51,895 --> 00:04:52,695 Speaker 4: it's gun safety. 118 00:04:52,936 --> 00:04:53,976 Speaker 5: And I remember going back. 119 00:04:54,015 --> 00:04:55,456 Speaker 4: I went to school the next day and I had 120 00:04:55,695 --> 00:04:58,056 Speaker 4: some terrible bruise on my shoulder and left handed. 121 00:04:58,455 --> 00:05:00,576 Speaker 5: It kicked so hard, and they thought that I was like. 122 00:05:00,496 --> 00:05:03,015 Speaker 4: Getting hit at home, right, And I was like, no, 123 00:05:03,135 --> 00:05:06,096 Speaker 4: I'm learning how to shoot a gun. But from that moment, 124 00:05:06,815 --> 00:05:08,376 Speaker 4: I never even had that people go with me, I 125 00:05:08,416 --> 00:05:10,136 Speaker 4: would just go hunting by myself with a four ten. 126 00:05:10,536 --> 00:05:12,535 Speaker 2: Much savage, I guess. 127 00:05:12,895 --> 00:05:14,896 Speaker 5: I mean, how savage am I really no, but. 128 00:05:14,856 --> 00:05:17,135 Speaker 6: That's pretty savage to go out on your own as 129 00:05:17,176 --> 00:05:19,016 Speaker 6: a kid and just go hunting in the woods. 130 00:05:18,815 --> 00:05:19,976 Speaker 5: Like squirrel hunting, rabbit hunting. 131 00:05:20,015 --> 00:05:22,536 Speaker 4: Sure like that was the environment though, And you know, 132 00:05:22,575 --> 00:05:25,095 Speaker 4: from that to a twenty two, then a twenty gauge, 133 00:05:25,096 --> 00:05:27,056 Speaker 4: then a twelve gage and the thirty out six once 134 00:05:27,096 --> 00:05:30,695 Speaker 4: I got to be a bit older, so and I 135 00:05:30,775 --> 00:05:34,015 Speaker 4: knew how to use a rifle, right, Oh yeah, Like 136 00:05:34,056 --> 00:05:36,095 Speaker 4: that's a whole version of me. 137 00:05:36,496 --> 00:05:39,255 Speaker 6: This is pretty like epic right now because this is 138 00:05:39,376 --> 00:05:42,496 Speaker 6: a whole layer of the onion that we're just unpeeling. 139 00:05:42,976 --> 00:05:45,455 Speaker 5: That just gave me many you're unpeeling, I feel like, 140 00:05:45,496 --> 00:05:48,176 Speaker 5: I mean straight from Arkansas, people are like, you married 141 00:05:48,176 --> 00:05:49,575 Speaker 5: to your cousin, you hunted your whole life. 142 00:05:50,135 --> 00:05:52,255 Speaker 2: I feel like that's what everybody thinks to a certain degree. 143 00:05:52,296 --> 00:05:56,336 Speaker 6: But again, like with the way that you present yourself 144 00:05:56,455 --> 00:05:59,015 Speaker 6: is maybe not an avid hunter all the time. 145 00:05:59,135 --> 00:06:00,775 Speaker 5: Oh yeah no, And but I don't anymore. 146 00:06:00,775 --> 00:06:03,535 Speaker 6: I'm good, right, But I mean I'm definitely going hunting 147 00:06:03,536 --> 00:06:04,415 Speaker 6: with you because you're not. 148 00:06:04,536 --> 00:06:06,056 Speaker 2: I don't work all we're going. 149 00:06:06,176 --> 00:06:07,975 Speaker 4: My point was I don't want to be the best 150 00:06:08,056 --> 00:06:10,736 Speaker 4: is duck hunting because it awo and then we all 151 00:06:10,736 --> 00:06:12,415 Speaker 4: fight about who shot with the duck right, and we 152 00:06:12,455 --> 00:06:16,335 Speaker 4: had great duck dogs, Like, oh dude, we had I 153 00:06:16,335 --> 00:06:17,776 Speaker 4: think I could write a book. I just did a 154 00:06:17,815 --> 00:06:21,256 Speaker 4: podcast called God's Country Podcast. It's all about hunting. And 155 00:06:21,416 --> 00:06:23,296 Speaker 4: we call my stepdad in middle of the podcasts because 156 00:06:23,296 --> 00:06:25,376 Speaker 4: I knew he'd be in the woods. 157 00:06:25,056 --> 00:06:25,735 Speaker 5: And they know me. 158 00:06:25,775 --> 00:06:29,895 Speaker 4: And even then they were like, that's we talked bow hunting, 159 00:06:29,936 --> 00:06:31,416 Speaker 4: We talked all of that, and they're like, it's just. 160 00:06:31,376 --> 00:06:33,776 Speaker 5: So weird to hear this version. Right, They don't really 161 00:06:33,775 --> 00:06:34,176 Speaker 5: turn it on. 162 00:06:34,335 --> 00:06:36,176 Speaker 4: But if I would have had a wet suit, it 163 00:06:36,176 --> 00:06:37,216 Speaker 4: would have helped so much. 164 00:06:37,335 --> 00:06:39,336 Speaker 6: Dude, were you one of those guys for like duck 165 00:06:39,416 --> 00:06:43,296 Speaker 6: hunting that has the rings and the bands that they collect. 166 00:06:43,416 --> 00:06:45,216 Speaker 5: No, So I'm gonna tell you why I wasn't cool enough. 167 00:06:45,575 --> 00:06:49,655 Speaker 4: This is my quick story of duck hunting before we 168 00:06:49,695 --> 00:06:51,336 Speaker 4: get back to football, because. 169 00:06:51,096 --> 00:06:53,135 Speaker 5: People don't want to hear my lame hunting stories I do. 170 00:06:53,496 --> 00:06:56,736 Speaker 4: The first three times that I went out, I was 171 00:06:56,815 --> 00:06:59,776 Speaker 4: I was a young kid. I didn't grow until like 172 00:06:59,815 --> 00:07:01,936 Speaker 4: eleventh grade, so I was very small, and I was 173 00:07:01,936 --> 00:07:04,695 Speaker 4: wearing adult waiters I think two or maybe all three. 174 00:07:04,736 --> 00:07:05,296 Speaker 2: First I fell. 175 00:07:05,416 --> 00:07:07,616 Speaker 5: Then every time and the water gets in your way 176 00:07:07,695 --> 00:07:10,376 Speaker 5: or you're done, I would just go back to the truck, 177 00:07:10,456 --> 00:07:12,816 Speaker 5: take all my clothes off, and be butt naked in 178 00:07:12,896 --> 00:07:14,535 Speaker 5: the heat while they all were in the blind. 179 00:07:14,856 --> 00:07:16,656 Speaker 2: It was terrible. You're gonna h hypotheremia. 180 00:07:16,736 --> 00:07:18,256 Speaker 6: I've had it happen one time where I hit a 181 00:07:18,256 --> 00:07:20,975 Speaker 6: log underneath, slipped underneath, and it's. 182 00:07:20,856 --> 00:07:24,935 Speaker 2: Gets so heavy you're so weighted down to walk. 183 00:07:25,136 --> 00:07:27,016 Speaker 5: It's really heavy. 184 00:07:27,096 --> 00:07:31,696 Speaker 4: Yes, oh it's worse misery, But having a wet suit 185 00:07:32,056 --> 00:07:35,456 Speaker 4: to hunt in would have made it so much easier because, 186 00:07:35,496 --> 00:07:38,936 Speaker 4: like you say, having a wet suit to play football, 187 00:07:39,136 --> 00:07:42,256 Speaker 4: and also, like watching these guys, it looks when it 188 00:07:42,416 --> 00:07:45,975 Speaker 4: snows that looks fun and novel, like a heavy snow 189 00:07:46,016 --> 00:07:47,256 Speaker 4: game difficult for seeing. 190 00:07:47,416 --> 00:07:50,016 Speaker 5: But when it's really cold and it's not snowing. 191 00:07:49,896 --> 00:07:53,576 Speaker 6: Right, that looks worse because the field is just it 192 00:07:53,655 --> 00:07:56,776 Speaker 6: hardens over as well. But when it's snowing and it's 193 00:07:56,776 --> 00:08:00,016 Speaker 6: heavy snow, I actually loved playing that because why the 194 00:08:00,056 --> 00:08:02,416 Speaker 6: defensive lineman then the traction that they get. They couldn't 195 00:08:02,456 --> 00:08:05,175 Speaker 6: get off the balls quickly right because it was all about. 196 00:08:05,016 --> 00:08:05,896 Speaker 2: Staying on your feet. 197 00:08:05,976 --> 00:08:09,576 Speaker 6: DB's couldn't react as quickly, so like your little slip screens, 198 00:08:09,576 --> 00:08:12,576 Speaker 6: and even when you're throwing these timing routes like curls 199 00:08:12,655 --> 00:08:15,736 Speaker 6: or incuts, the transition that they have to make. Think 200 00:08:15,736 --> 00:08:19,496 Speaker 6: about a defensive back pedaling ten yards. You're running and 201 00:08:19,576 --> 00:08:22,336 Speaker 6: as long as your wide receiver can keep their feet 202 00:08:22,376 --> 00:08:25,256 Speaker 6: and come, it actually opens up windows a lot more 203 00:08:25,296 --> 00:08:27,295 Speaker 6: than you think. So I used to love playing in snow, 204 00:08:27,456 --> 00:08:30,176 Speaker 6: but when it's just bitterly cold and there's no snow 205 00:08:30,215 --> 00:08:32,256 Speaker 6: on the ground, they still get off the ball. They're 206 00:08:32,296 --> 00:08:34,216 Speaker 6: still coming to hit you, and those hits feel a 207 00:08:34,216 --> 00:08:36,856 Speaker 6: little bit different when you're playing in that type of weather. 208 00:08:37,216 --> 00:08:39,976 Speaker 4: Not to look to the past, but just last week 209 00:08:40,295 --> 00:08:44,175 Speaker 4: whenever it started to snow, because that was two games 210 00:08:44,216 --> 00:08:46,296 Speaker 4: otherwise cold and no snow. I're talking about the Rams 211 00:08:46,295 --> 00:08:48,736 Speaker 4: and the Eagles, and then it started snowing pretty heavily. 212 00:08:48,816 --> 00:08:51,175 Speaker 4: This second came down, and as the Rams were kind 213 00:08:51,175 --> 00:08:53,295 Speaker 4: of making their move back, it was one point of 214 00:08:53,336 --> 00:08:56,896 Speaker 4: the game when Stafford just like, we're just going no huddle, 215 00:08:57,295 --> 00:08:59,736 Speaker 4: right for the OC and that's when they really started 216 00:08:59,736 --> 00:09:02,136 Speaker 4: to move the ball. When they were going no huddle, 217 00:09:02,496 --> 00:09:05,936 Speaker 4: not giving the defense much time to adjust. 218 00:09:06,055 --> 00:09:08,415 Speaker 6: You couldn't see, couldn't see, and they move the ball 219 00:09:08,496 --> 00:09:11,216 Speaker 6: every drive right, And they had a great game plan. 220 00:09:11,295 --> 00:09:13,136 Speaker 6: And if it wasn't for the turnovers, they had the 221 00:09:13,816 --> 00:09:17,616 Speaker 6: fumble and then they also Stafford got a strip sack 222 00:09:17,896 --> 00:09:21,136 Speaker 6: in the pocket and so the dynamics of that game 223 00:09:21,256 --> 00:09:23,216 Speaker 6: with those two turnovers, that was a changing point. But 224 00:09:23,295 --> 00:09:25,016 Speaker 6: like you said, they had to go no huddle at 225 00:09:25,016 --> 00:09:27,616 Speaker 6: that point, they're down two scores, but you saw they 226 00:09:27,616 --> 00:09:29,376 Speaker 6: picked up the pace. And what it does for a 227 00:09:29,376 --> 00:09:31,896 Speaker 6: lot of those defenses is it simplifies the defense for 228 00:09:31,935 --> 00:09:34,415 Speaker 6: the offense because they've got to get lined up right away. 229 00:09:34,456 --> 00:09:36,576 Speaker 6: They can't make all these adjustments and dial up all 230 00:09:36,616 --> 00:09:38,976 Speaker 6: these blitzer and so it simplifies it for the quarterback. 231 00:09:39,175 --> 00:09:40,815 Speaker 6: And if you can get on the ball and consistently 232 00:09:40,856 --> 00:09:42,815 Speaker 6: move the ball, it's just all about taking the profit 233 00:09:42,856 --> 00:09:44,336 Speaker 6: and moving. And they were able to go down in 234 00:09:44,415 --> 00:09:46,616 Speaker 6: less than a minute or just over a minute score 235 00:09:46,696 --> 00:09:48,935 Speaker 6: put themselves in a position to where now it's a 236 00:09:48,976 --> 00:09:49,696 Speaker 6: one score game. 237 00:09:50,096 --> 00:09:52,696 Speaker 4: I didn't know you played for Buffalo at all and 238 00:09:52,776 --> 00:09:56,656 Speaker 4: I saw the picture you posted the Castle Bowl Kansas 239 00:09:56,655 --> 00:09:57,456 Speaker 4: City and Buffalo. 240 00:09:57,655 --> 00:09:59,575 Speaker 2: I was like, it's not really the Castle Bowl. Let's 241 00:09:59,655 --> 00:10:00,055 Speaker 2: be honest. 242 00:10:00,216 --> 00:10:03,496 Speaker 6: They got two really good quarterbacks and they're probably really 243 00:10:03,535 --> 00:10:04,936 Speaker 6: happy with their situations. 244 00:10:05,655 --> 00:10:07,456 Speaker 4: So, as you said, you didn't know I was a Hunter, 245 00:10:07,535 --> 00:10:08,935 Speaker 4: I didn't know you played for Buffalo. 246 00:10:08,816 --> 00:10:12,175 Speaker 6: What was the tenure there? It was a cup of coffee. 247 00:10:12,376 --> 00:10:16,175 Speaker 6: I got traded from the Vikings to Buffalo. I was 248 00:10:16,256 --> 00:10:19,655 Speaker 6: under Rex Ryan. I was there for the first two 249 00:10:19,696 --> 00:10:23,016 Speaker 6: weeks a season. Tyrod Taylor actually started in front of me. 250 00:10:23,295 --> 00:10:25,296 Speaker 6: That was the game where the first game of the season, 251 00:10:25,336 --> 00:10:27,136 Speaker 6: for some reason, they wanted to do this trick play. 252 00:10:27,136 --> 00:10:28,096 Speaker 2: They put me a quarterback. 253 00:10:28,096 --> 00:10:30,496 Speaker 6: I took a shotgun snap handed it to the running back. 254 00:10:30,696 --> 00:10:32,975 Speaker 6: Tyrod Taylor came around on a reverse and that was 255 00:10:33,016 --> 00:10:34,655 Speaker 6: the extent of my playing time. But I did get 256 00:10:34,655 --> 00:10:37,535 Speaker 6: the start and we did win, So technically I deserve 257 00:10:37,616 --> 00:10:39,976 Speaker 6: the win on that, even though Tyrod Taylor did all 258 00:10:40,016 --> 00:10:41,216 Speaker 6: the heavy lifting in that game. 259 00:10:41,295 --> 00:10:43,296 Speaker 5: Okay, well, then it all evens out because if Brady 260 00:10:43,336 --> 00:10:43,695 Speaker 5: gets the. 261 00:10:43,616 --> 00:10:44,896 Speaker 2: Win, right, That's what I said. 262 00:10:45,016 --> 00:10:46,456 Speaker 5: So when you went in, you got the win for that, 263 00:10:46,535 --> 00:10:47,136 Speaker 5: I should. 264 00:10:46,856 --> 00:10:49,815 Speaker 2: Get the win and then we played the Patriots. 265 00:10:49,816 --> 00:10:52,816 Speaker 6: The second week, I get a call, like, get into 266 00:10:52,816 --> 00:10:53,376 Speaker 6: the locker room. 267 00:10:53,376 --> 00:10:54,295 Speaker 2: After a Monday practice. 268 00:10:54,295 --> 00:10:56,136 Speaker 6: We got blown out by the Patriots and I get 269 00:10:56,175 --> 00:10:58,856 Speaker 6: a call and my agent had called me ten times, 270 00:10:58,896 --> 00:11:00,136 Speaker 6: so I waited to get in the car. I get 271 00:11:00,136 --> 00:11:03,136 Speaker 6: in the car. My wife's thirty four weeks pregnant, and 272 00:11:03,535 --> 00:11:05,175 Speaker 6: he says, are you sitting down? I'm like, yes, I'm 273 00:11:05,175 --> 00:11:07,096 Speaker 6: in the What's going on? He's like, You've been traded 274 00:11:07,136 --> 00:11:09,696 Speaker 6: to the Dallas Cowboys. So I was there for the 275 00:11:09,776 --> 00:11:11,815 Speaker 6: first two weeks a season. Romo gets hurt, I get 276 00:11:11,816 --> 00:11:14,055 Speaker 6: traded to the Dallas Cowboys. I'm on the first thing, 277 00:11:14,136 --> 00:11:16,175 Speaker 6: shipped out the next day to go to Dallas. And 278 00:11:16,216 --> 00:11:17,575 Speaker 6: that was the extent. 279 00:11:17,295 --> 00:11:20,576 Speaker 2: Of my Buffalo two weeks with the Bills two weeks. 280 00:11:20,896 --> 00:11:23,776 Speaker 5: Do you keep a jersey with every team you play for, 281 00:11:24,175 --> 00:11:25,256 Speaker 5: generally if you're a player. 282 00:11:25,935 --> 00:11:26,215 Speaker 2: Yeah. 283 00:11:26,535 --> 00:11:28,976 Speaker 6: I felt a little guilty about keeping a jersey because 284 00:11:28,976 --> 00:11:31,455 Speaker 6: I wasn't there for even three games. 285 00:11:31,535 --> 00:11:33,456 Speaker 2: But I would have loved to keep a jersey. 286 00:11:33,496 --> 00:11:36,096 Speaker 6: I have jerseys, I think from every organization I played 287 00:11:36,096 --> 00:11:37,056 Speaker 6: for other than Buffalo. 288 00:11:37,456 --> 00:11:39,736 Speaker 2: So if they're listening, could I get a jersey? 289 00:11:41,655 --> 00:11:46,616 Speaker 5: Can you request balls during cold weather games at any 290 00:11:46,655 --> 00:11:49,136 Speaker 5: point a change of ball, can they keep the balls warm? 291 00:11:49,496 --> 00:11:51,776 Speaker 2: Like, what's the rule there? They tried to. They tried to. 292 00:11:51,856 --> 00:11:53,856 Speaker 6: On the sideline, you'll see the ball boy and they'll 293 00:11:53,896 --> 00:11:56,896 Speaker 6: be covering it. And then the biggest thing for me 294 00:11:56,976 --> 00:11:59,336 Speaker 6: always was I tell the ref who's standing over the 295 00:11:59,336 --> 00:12:01,576 Speaker 6: ball to set the ball in place, if he could 296 00:12:01,576 --> 00:12:03,736 Speaker 6: cover that up, because when it's snowing and all that, 297 00:12:04,096 --> 00:12:06,976 Speaker 6: now you're dealing with a ball and conditions. If they 298 00:12:06,976 --> 00:12:08,776 Speaker 6: could kind of keep it dry to a certain extent, 299 00:12:08,856 --> 00:12:10,456 Speaker 6: especially when it's raining, raining's. 300 00:12:10,216 --> 00:12:11,016 Speaker 2: The worst to play in. 301 00:12:11,496 --> 00:12:15,856 Speaker 6: Every quarterback has nightmares about playing in rain just because 302 00:12:15,896 --> 00:12:19,935 Speaker 6: of ball security. Taking the snap, as simplistic as that sounds, 303 00:12:20,175 --> 00:12:23,016 Speaker 6: becomes in your mind. You're like, just don't fumble the snap. 304 00:12:23,016 --> 00:12:25,176 Speaker 6: It's the most basic playing football, but you're always like, 305 00:12:25,415 --> 00:12:28,215 Speaker 6: you're worried about it, and it's so I would always 306 00:12:28,216 --> 00:12:29,776 Speaker 6: talk to the ref about just holding over and a 307 00:12:29,816 --> 00:12:31,616 Speaker 6: lot of those guys were cool about it, but sometimes 308 00:12:31,616 --> 00:12:33,535 Speaker 6: they just leave it out there and let it roll, 309 00:12:33,535 --> 00:12:34,736 Speaker 6: and you got to deal with the conditions. 310 00:12:34,856 --> 00:12:38,496 Speaker 4: There really are no advantages weather wise, because Buffalo is 311 00:12:38,535 --> 00:12:43,016 Speaker 4: at Kansas City. Both cold weather teams right, both outdoor 312 00:12:43,175 --> 00:12:47,216 Speaker 4: cold weather teams, and then in Philadelphia the Commanders are 313 00:12:47,256 --> 00:12:51,095 Speaker 4: going and again cold weather team or outdoor. 314 00:12:51,136 --> 00:12:54,416 Speaker 6: We play outdoor all year. We've dealt with elements before. 315 00:12:55,376 --> 00:12:58,096 Speaker 4: I guess the only advantage would be if that Philadelphia 316 00:12:58,216 --> 00:13:01,216 Speaker 4: Commander's game, and I don't think the forecast has it, 317 00:13:01,216 --> 00:13:02,496 Speaker 4: but if it was like a lot of snow and 318 00:13:02,535 --> 00:13:04,736 Speaker 4: you had to just ground and pound, I think Philly 319 00:13:04,736 --> 00:13:08,815 Speaker 4: would have the vantage there based on their running game, right, and. 320 00:13:08,655 --> 00:13:11,535 Speaker 6: I think that's the biggest advantage for Philly in last 321 00:13:11,535 --> 00:13:14,096 Speaker 6: week's game was Sakuon Barkley, right, he had the forty 322 00:13:14,096 --> 00:13:16,256 Speaker 6: four yard run, He had what the seventy yard run 323 00:13:16,576 --> 00:13:18,696 Speaker 6: or maybe it was a six yard run and a 324 00:13:18,736 --> 00:13:21,736 Speaker 6: seventy yard run, and then Jalen Hurts had that first 325 00:13:21,776 --> 00:13:23,896 Speaker 6: touchdown that was a forty four yard scamper. 326 00:13:24,256 --> 00:13:25,295 Speaker 2: That's what they're built to do. 327 00:13:25,456 --> 00:13:27,975 Speaker 6: That offense runs through Saquon Barkley, and you're going to 328 00:13:28,055 --> 00:13:30,256 Speaker 6: have to stop the running game first and foremost, because 329 00:13:30,616 --> 00:13:33,536 Speaker 6: they haven't shown throughout the playoffs or even really throughout 330 00:13:33,576 --> 00:13:38,016 Speaker 6: season that they wanted to be a pass first offense. 331 00:13:38,055 --> 00:13:40,415 Speaker 6: They've got the weapons to do so, but at the 332 00:13:40,456 --> 00:13:43,656 Speaker 6: same time, they know their formula for success. They're going 333 00:13:43,696 --> 00:13:45,975 Speaker 6: to play stout defense, which they've got one of the 334 00:13:46,016 --> 00:13:48,256 Speaker 6: best in the league, if not the best in the league, 335 00:13:48,456 --> 00:13:50,856 Speaker 6: and they've got a tremendous offensive line. They've got a 336 00:13:50,935 --> 00:13:54,496 Speaker 6: dude in the backfield that they trust, so the advantage 337 00:13:54,496 --> 00:13:57,896 Speaker 6: would be there. Because I do like Brian Robinson for Washington, 338 00:13:58,055 --> 00:14:02,256 Speaker 6: I like Eckler. They have depth, but the dynamic of 339 00:14:02,295 --> 00:14:06,136 Speaker 6: their offense it starts with Jaden Daniel his ability to 340 00:14:06,136 --> 00:14:08,536 Speaker 6: throw the ball downfield, which he did an exceptional job 341 00:14:08,576 --> 00:14:12,016 Speaker 6: last week against Detroit. But then they counter that with 342 00:14:12,136 --> 00:14:14,136 Speaker 6: the run game, so it kind of works hand in hand. 343 00:14:14,535 --> 00:14:15,256 Speaker 2: They do both. 344 00:14:15,535 --> 00:14:18,335 Speaker 6: And the interesting part about Washington's offense is so much 345 00:14:18,336 --> 00:14:21,296 Speaker 6: of it is if you're going to match numbers on 346 00:14:21,336 --> 00:14:24,256 Speaker 6: the outside right, two over two, then. 347 00:14:24,136 --> 00:14:26,096 Speaker 2: We're going to run the ball. We have a lighter box. 348 00:14:26,176 --> 00:14:28,176 Speaker 6: If all of a sudden you have a number, it's 349 00:14:28,176 --> 00:14:30,216 Speaker 6: advantage on the outside. You're going three over two. Well, 350 00:14:31,136 --> 00:14:33,416 Speaker 6: now you're going to try, excuse me, three over two 351 00:14:33,496 --> 00:14:35,696 Speaker 6: outside you're going to run the ball. All of a sudden, 352 00:14:35,696 --> 00:14:38,376 Speaker 6: you leave the numbers matched up, and you don't want 353 00:14:38,416 --> 00:14:40,776 Speaker 6: to extend that linebacker out well, they're going to throw 354 00:14:40,776 --> 00:14:43,496 Speaker 6: that bubble, So it's always this option where they can 355 00:14:43,536 --> 00:14:45,736 Speaker 6: throw that slip screen, like they did to Terry McLaurin 356 00:14:45,776 --> 00:14:49,056 Speaker 6: early on he broke the long touchdown run. It's an 357 00:14:49,096 --> 00:14:51,256 Speaker 6: interesting way in which they attack. And then when you 358 00:14:51,336 --> 00:14:53,296 Speaker 6: got somebody that special that can do it with his 359 00:14:53,416 --> 00:14:55,816 Speaker 6: arm and his legs, they'll give him an opportunity. 360 00:14:56,416 --> 00:14:59,296 Speaker 4: America loves a winner until the winner wins too much. 361 00:14:59,776 --> 00:15:03,096 Speaker 4: Then America hates the winner, and we saw this with 362 00:15:03,136 --> 00:15:06,856 Speaker 4: the Patriots. I love a dynasty. I love a great 363 00:15:06,936 --> 00:15:09,215 Speaker 4: player like I love a Lebron, I love a Jordan. 364 00:15:09,336 --> 00:15:11,976 Speaker 4: I love the Patriots when they're winning. I love the 365 00:15:12,016 --> 00:15:12,896 Speaker 4: Chiefs when they're winning. 366 00:15:12,936 --> 00:15:15,656 Speaker 5: Because it's rare in our lifetime that we get to 367 00:15:15,856 --> 00:15:20,376 Speaker 5: actually experience greatness, unless it's like a rival team. 368 00:15:20,976 --> 00:15:24,336 Speaker 4: Like I'm into it because there's seven or eight times 369 00:15:24,376 --> 00:15:27,456 Speaker 4: in your life where you really get to see somebody 370 00:15:28,016 --> 00:15:32,256 Speaker 4: or something dominate consistently because there are levers in place 371 00:15:32,896 --> 00:15:35,576 Speaker 4: that are pulled to not allow domination. 372 00:15:35,856 --> 00:15:37,776 Speaker 5: A salary cap a you could. 373 00:15:37,656 --> 00:15:39,816 Speaker 6: Go through all the different runs when you win the 374 00:15:39,816 --> 00:15:41,776 Speaker 6: Super Bowl, guess where you're picking thirty. 375 00:15:41,496 --> 00:15:45,536 Speaker 4: Two another perfect example of a lever that isn't helping 376 00:15:46,016 --> 00:15:50,136 Speaker 4: the team stay the best. And the Chiefs in a 377 00:15:50,256 --> 00:15:53,496 Speaker 4: vacuum are not a disliked team in a vacuum. I 378 00:15:53,536 --> 00:15:56,056 Speaker 4: mean they didn't win the last two Super Bowls, they 379 00:15:56,096 --> 00:15:57,696 Speaker 4: didn't win the Super Bowl a couple years before that. 380 00:15:58,376 --> 00:16:00,376 Speaker 4: They are just a team playing for a Super Bowl 381 00:16:00,456 --> 00:16:04,496 Speaker 4: this year. They are not an unlikable team, but because 382 00:16:04,496 --> 00:16:08,296 Speaker 4: they've been winning so much much, they have now become 383 00:16:08,336 --> 00:16:09,216 Speaker 4: an unlikable team. 384 00:16:09,256 --> 00:16:12,456 Speaker 5: The same with the Patriots. Right, people people hated the Patriots, 385 00:16:12,576 --> 00:16:15,776 Speaker 5: hate hated the Patriots. 386 00:16:15,416 --> 00:16:18,856 Speaker 4: For no other reason that they continued to win. And 387 00:16:18,856 --> 00:16:21,856 Speaker 4: with the Patriots over the two versions of its of 388 00:16:21,896 --> 00:16:24,816 Speaker 4: their two dynasties that ended up being one dynasty. 389 00:16:25,616 --> 00:16:30,496 Speaker 5: You know, there was probably between Craft and the NFL 390 00:16:31,736 --> 00:16:35,456 Speaker 5: no love loss. We saw that in the documentary, and 391 00:16:35,496 --> 00:16:39,496 Speaker 5: there were things that shifted America's perception of the Patriots, 392 00:16:39,536 --> 00:16:42,216 Speaker 5: fair or unfair. I think the flake Gate was stupid. 393 00:16:42,656 --> 00:16:44,816 Speaker 5: I think the flay Gate was so stupid, But it 394 00:16:44,816 --> 00:16:47,376 Speaker 5: doesn't mean America doesn't think that the Patriots were taters. Well, 395 00:16:47,416 --> 00:16:49,335 Speaker 5: we also had spy Gate and that was the one 396 00:16:49,336 --> 00:16:51,856 Speaker 5: though probably is real though, but so the flay Gate 397 00:16:51,896 --> 00:16:53,536 Speaker 5: was a stupid one that I felt like was so 398 00:16:53,616 --> 00:16:54,136 Speaker 5: uncalled for. 399 00:16:54,216 --> 00:16:54,936 Speaker 2: I could the. 400 00:16:54,896 --> 00:16:57,696 Speaker 4: Suspension was domb All of it was dumb to flight Gate, 401 00:17:00,176 --> 00:17:01,016 Speaker 4: probably something. 402 00:17:00,776 --> 00:17:03,216 Speaker 6: There you got, you got something there, you get kind 403 00:17:03,216 --> 00:17:04,656 Speaker 6: of got caught with your pants down. 404 00:17:04,696 --> 00:17:06,696 Speaker 2: There's video level. I was there and that. 405 00:17:06,816 --> 00:17:08,776 Speaker 6: The crazy part about that was two thousand and seven, 406 00:17:09,256 --> 00:17:11,416 Speaker 6: we're like the third game of the season. We had 407 00:17:11,495 --> 00:17:14,296 Speaker 6: absolutely We're going into the third game of season I 408 00:17:14,336 --> 00:17:18,456 Speaker 6: think against the San Diego Chargers at the time, and 409 00:17:18,896 --> 00:17:22,016 Speaker 6: all of a sudden this news breaks and I didn't 410 00:17:22,056 --> 00:17:24,576 Speaker 6: know anything about this, but they're coming off of three 411 00:17:24,656 --> 00:17:27,096 Speaker 6: Super Bowls, and then we had missed the Super Bowl 412 00:17:27,536 --> 00:17:29,856 Speaker 6: the last two seasons. We went to we won in 413 00:17:29,856 --> 00:17:32,896 Speaker 6: the divisional round last two seasons but. 414 00:17:32,896 --> 00:17:33,536 Speaker 2: Got knocked out. 415 00:17:33,856 --> 00:17:35,336 Speaker 5: So you went there for the first three. 416 00:17:36,376 --> 00:17:38,255 Speaker 6: I wasn't there for the first three, right, Okay, So 417 00:17:38,816 --> 00:17:42,295 Speaker 6: when I got there, we went and I think to 418 00:17:42,376 --> 00:17:45,896 Speaker 6: the divisional round and lost to Denver. Next year AFC Championship, 419 00:17:46,215 --> 00:17:48,896 Speaker 6: lost to the Colts. And then it was that next 420 00:17:48,975 --> 00:17:50,896 Speaker 6: year in two thousand and seven where all this stuff 421 00:17:50,896 --> 00:17:53,056 Speaker 6: about spy gay comes up and it was the biggest. 422 00:17:52,735 --> 00:17:53,295 Speaker 2: Story out there. 423 00:17:53,376 --> 00:17:56,296 Speaker 6: Obviously a team that went and won three Super Bowls 424 00:17:56,296 --> 00:18:00,255 Speaker 6: in four years, dominated the league and has is a 425 00:18:00,256 --> 00:18:03,696 Speaker 6: perennial powerhouse. They've got off to a great start. The Jets, 426 00:18:03,896 --> 00:18:06,616 Speaker 6: you know, say what they did. Manginie, who came from 427 00:18:06,656 --> 00:18:08,936 Speaker 6: the Patriots, probably knew the inner workings of what was 428 00:18:08,975 --> 00:18:12,215 Speaker 6: going on, signed sealing everything, and everybody had their version. 429 00:18:12,256 --> 00:18:14,056 Speaker 2: Well, it would be a lot, really easy if. 430 00:18:13,975 --> 00:18:16,416 Speaker 6: The quarterback was to tell me that a cross dogs 431 00:18:16,455 --> 00:18:18,295 Speaker 6: coming in the middle and our lineman can pick it 432 00:18:18,336 --> 00:18:19,775 Speaker 6: up right, Well, you don't have that much time at 433 00:18:19,776 --> 00:18:22,416 Speaker 6: the line of scrimmage. But from that point on, we 434 00:18:22,455 --> 00:18:25,176 Speaker 6: went undefeated that season, and then we went to the 435 00:18:25,176 --> 00:18:27,015 Speaker 6: Super Bowl and we lost to the Giants in that 436 00:18:27,096 --> 00:18:31,856 Speaker 6: Super Bowl. But it was incredible to see the resiliency 437 00:18:31,856 --> 00:18:33,936 Speaker 6: of that team because there's so many distractions going on. 438 00:18:33,936 --> 00:18:36,856 Speaker 6: Everybody's calling them cheaters, everybody's saying this wasn't legit, and 439 00:18:36,896 --> 00:18:38,656 Speaker 6: then to go on that run the way that they did, 440 00:18:38,656 --> 00:18:40,536 Speaker 6: and for Brady to play the way that he did 441 00:18:40,856 --> 00:18:43,736 Speaker 6: that season and sept the NFL record at the time 442 00:18:43,735 --> 00:18:49,576 Speaker 6: for TD passes, it just went to prove like, there's 443 00:18:49,696 --> 00:18:53,296 Speaker 6: more than what it looks like here. We weren't cheating, 444 00:18:53,336 --> 00:18:55,816 Speaker 6: they weren't cheating to a point where oh, well they 445 00:18:55,816 --> 00:18:56,535 Speaker 6: had all the answers. 446 00:18:56,576 --> 00:18:58,936 Speaker 2: No, they just had really an incredible. 447 00:18:58,495 --> 00:19:01,416 Speaker 6: Quarterback, the best of all time, They had the best 448 00:19:01,416 --> 00:19:03,736 Speaker 6: coach of all time, and they had a veteran leadership 449 00:19:03,816 --> 00:19:04,656 Speaker 6: across the board. 450 00:19:04,896 --> 00:19:08,776 Speaker 4: Why do you think deflate gate then mattered so much? 451 00:19:08,856 --> 00:19:13,096 Speaker 4: Because it was so sensational, Like it involves such another dynasty, 452 00:19:13,816 --> 00:19:16,936 Speaker 4: good looking Tom Brady. Deflated balls are fun toy like 453 00:19:16,936 --> 00:19:19,536 Speaker 4: play it. That was such a crock even I felt 454 00:19:19,536 --> 00:19:20,495 Speaker 4: like it was a crock even then. 455 00:19:20,616 --> 00:19:23,096 Speaker 6: Well, the funny part about it was they switched the 456 00:19:23,096 --> 00:19:25,696 Speaker 6: balls out at halftime. He threw for more yards after 457 00:19:25,696 --> 00:19:27,016 Speaker 6: they switched the balls out. 458 00:19:27,136 --> 00:19:28,176 Speaker 2: So whatever it might be. 459 00:19:28,856 --> 00:19:33,856 Speaker 6: But coming off of knowing what you know now about Spygate, 460 00:19:34,416 --> 00:19:37,416 Speaker 6: and then you go and you have this other huge 461 00:19:37,495 --> 00:19:41,015 Speaker 6: scandal about oh, either're deflating all the balls, you're not 462 00:19:41,256 --> 00:19:44,856 Speaker 6: playing by the rules again, it was just another reason 463 00:19:44,896 --> 00:19:46,975 Speaker 6: for people to say, oh, look see, I told you 464 00:19:47,016 --> 00:19:47,736 Speaker 6: they're cheating again. 465 00:19:47,776 --> 00:19:48,576 Speaker 2: They're cheating again. 466 00:19:48,975 --> 00:19:52,176 Speaker 6: So they already were a hated franchise because of the 467 00:19:52,215 --> 00:19:55,616 Speaker 6: winning aspect, and then you add on these different major 468 00:19:55,735 --> 00:19:58,376 Speaker 6: stories and elements. You could take it any which way 469 00:19:58,376 --> 00:19:59,416 Speaker 6: you wanted. To in the media. 470 00:20:00,056 --> 00:20:02,696 Speaker 4: And my point with the Chiefs is again in a vacuum, 471 00:20:02,816 --> 00:20:06,096 Speaker 4: they're not hated, but because they have one a lot. 472 00:20:06,336 --> 00:20:09,495 Speaker 4: And then you throw in the factors of Taylor Swept 473 00:20:09,495 --> 00:20:10,255 Speaker 4: with Travis Kelcey. 474 00:20:10,776 --> 00:20:14,056 Speaker 5: Yeah, people like I'm so tired of Travis Kelsey, who 475 00:20:14,136 --> 00:20:16,656 Speaker 5: surely wrote the games, and then it's I'm so tired 476 00:20:16,696 --> 00:20:16,856 Speaker 5: of them. 477 00:20:16,896 --> 00:20:21,656 Speaker 4: On every commercial, Patrick Mahomes probably strategically falling a little 478 00:20:21,696 --> 00:20:25,296 Speaker 4: more than he needs to fall man even flopping at 479 00:20:25,296 --> 00:20:27,416 Speaker 4: times like the one was real bad last week on 480 00:20:27,455 --> 00:20:31,376 Speaker 4: the sideline right. The other ones he just slides like strategically, 481 00:20:31,455 --> 00:20:33,136 Speaker 4: like right, he's playing within the rules. 482 00:20:33,215 --> 00:20:34,696 Speaker 5: The flop though, was a little over. 483 00:20:34,495 --> 00:20:36,376 Speaker 6: The time flop, and they didn't call that one to 484 00:20:36,416 --> 00:20:39,055 Speaker 6: their credit, that's true, but still we saw it. But 485 00:20:39,136 --> 00:20:42,056 Speaker 6: the one that in the first quarter of that game, 486 00:20:42,215 --> 00:20:44,856 Speaker 6: it's third and eight, he overthrows the ball, he gets 487 00:20:44,936 --> 00:20:47,736 Speaker 6: hit and when you look at it, I could understand 488 00:20:47,735 --> 00:20:50,015 Speaker 6: in real time it looks like it's a helmet to helmet, 489 00:20:50,016 --> 00:20:52,656 Speaker 6: But at the same time, when you go back, it 490 00:20:52,696 --> 00:20:55,015 Speaker 6: was just a normal hit that you have to be 491 00:20:55,016 --> 00:20:56,975 Speaker 6: able to take and understand that's what you're going to 492 00:20:57,016 --> 00:20:59,055 Speaker 6: do as a quarterback and they called it in fifteen 493 00:20:59,096 --> 00:21:03,015 Speaker 6: yards penalty. It then equates the play points for the 494 00:21:03,096 --> 00:21:06,136 Speaker 6: Kansas City Chiefs, and those are major call in these 495 00:21:06,176 --> 00:21:09,656 Speaker 6: type of games because every series matters. When you go 496 00:21:09,735 --> 00:21:11,735 Speaker 6: down and if you get fifteen yards and you're able 497 00:21:11,735 --> 00:21:15,815 Speaker 6: to extend the drive and get off the field or 498 00:21:15,816 --> 00:21:18,015 Speaker 6: get off the field as a defense, it changes the 499 00:21:18,096 --> 00:21:19,455 Speaker 6: dynamics of the game completely. 500 00:21:19,616 --> 00:21:23,816 Speaker 4: I saw a statistic based on people saying the Chiefs 501 00:21:23,816 --> 00:21:28,055 Speaker 4: get all the calls that the Chiefs had more penalties called. 502 00:21:27,816 --> 00:21:29,775 Speaker 5: On them than the other way around. 503 00:21:29,936 --> 00:21:34,136 Speaker 4: Interesting, but the difference is when the Chiefs get even 504 00:21:34,176 --> 00:21:39,376 Speaker 4: the smallest break, just to justifiably so or not, they 505 00:21:39,416 --> 00:21:41,576 Speaker 4: take advantage of it better than other teams. So when 506 00:21:41,576 --> 00:21:44,815 Speaker 4: they get that flag and they do it turn that 507 00:21:44,896 --> 00:21:48,735 Speaker 4: into a touchdown. That's what people remember because you let's 508 00:21:48,735 --> 00:21:51,936 Speaker 4: say you get a fifteen yard penalty one of these 509 00:21:52,056 --> 00:21:55,656 Speaker 4: you know, helmet to helmets, and then you end up 510 00:21:55,656 --> 00:21:56,536 Speaker 4: punting three plays later. 511 00:21:56,576 --> 00:21:57,376 Speaker 5: Nobody really remembers. 512 00:21:57,495 --> 00:21:59,735 Speaker 2: Nobody remembers that. They're like, oh, that sucked. But at 513 00:21:59,735 --> 00:22:00,776 Speaker 2: the same. 514 00:22:00,376 --> 00:22:02,016 Speaker 5: Score, and it's a big part of the game. 515 00:22:02,136 --> 00:22:03,896 Speaker 6: It's a big part of the game. Puts points on 516 00:22:03,936 --> 00:22:06,336 Speaker 6: the board. And everybody's like, oh, they get all the calls, 517 00:22:06,616 --> 00:22:08,975 Speaker 6: but again that's part of the game. They they're trying 518 00:22:09,016 --> 00:22:10,416 Speaker 6: to protect every quarterback in that. 519 00:22:10,616 --> 00:22:14,255 Speaker 2: In that way, it just is Patrick Mahomes has a 520 00:22:14,256 --> 00:22:15,096 Speaker 2: microscope on him. 521 00:22:15,136 --> 00:22:17,336 Speaker 6: He's really good at the play like you said, where 522 00:22:17,336 --> 00:22:20,975 Speaker 6: he flops and he does it slows down and even 523 00:22:20,975 --> 00:22:22,816 Speaker 6: the one where the two defenders come over the top 524 00:22:22,896 --> 00:22:25,775 Speaker 6: and collide basically with each other. Well, he's doing all 525 00:22:25,776 --> 00:22:27,936 Speaker 6: that stuff and he became a runner. And so when 526 00:22:27,975 --> 00:22:30,575 Speaker 6: you become a runner and then late drop, you have 527 00:22:30,616 --> 00:22:32,576 Speaker 6: to take that into account in my opinion, But it's 528 00:22:32,616 --> 00:22:35,536 Speaker 6: hard for those referees who are saying protect the quarterback. 529 00:22:35,776 --> 00:22:39,136 Speaker 6: We saw it early on in the season when Jacksonville 530 00:22:39,256 --> 00:22:41,215 Speaker 6: quarterback Taylor Uh. 531 00:22:41,056 --> 00:22:42,736 Speaker 5: Taylor Trevor Lawrence down. 532 00:22:43,056 --> 00:22:46,495 Speaker 6: Trevor Lawrence went down and got absolutely Oh dude, I 533 00:22:46,536 --> 00:22:47,336 Speaker 6: was sitting there going. 534 00:22:48,856 --> 00:22:50,136 Speaker 2: That was a tough one to swallow. 535 00:22:50,176 --> 00:22:52,335 Speaker 6: So, I mean, and there was so much notoriety that 536 00:22:52,376 --> 00:22:55,336 Speaker 6: came along with that in the protecting the quarterback. So 537 00:22:55,576 --> 00:22:58,775 Speaker 6: I understand where the refs are coming from, especially with 538 00:22:58,816 --> 00:22:59,816 Speaker 6: a superstar like that. 539 00:23:00,696 --> 00:23:06,335 Speaker 4: Also, those two flags, they both looked like what the 540 00:23:06,376 --> 00:23:10,376 Speaker 4: penalties were right, like it wasn't. Some agree just called 541 00:23:10,455 --> 00:23:14,815 Speaker 4: that was that the solo helmet to helmet. It looked 542 00:23:14,856 --> 00:23:16,215 Speaker 4: like he got hit in the helmet. Now did he 543 00:23:16,215 --> 00:23:18,376 Speaker 4: ge hit in the chest and also got his face mask? Yeah, yeap, 544 00:23:18,495 --> 00:23:20,136 Speaker 4: whenever you slow it down and look at it slow. 545 00:23:20,495 --> 00:23:24,856 Speaker 4: So the call was probably wrong ish, but it was 546 00:23:24,936 --> 00:23:26,975 Speaker 4: so close that it's hard to go that rest of 547 00:23:27,096 --> 00:23:27,815 Speaker 4: cheat for Kansas City. 548 00:23:27,856 --> 00:23:28,335 Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing. 549 00:23:28,376 --> 00:23:32,056 Speaker 6: We get the benefit of watching the replay fifteen times 550 00:23:32,455 --> 00:23:33,455 Speaker 6: and being to analyze it. 551 00:23:33,495 --> 00:23:35,416 Speaker 5: Did he hit his chest from the angle. 552 00:23:35,376 --> 00:23:37,696 Speaker 6: In all the angles they're sitting there out there in 553 00:23:37,735 --> 00:23:39,376 Speaker 6: real time, and if you were to replay it for 554 00:23:39,416 --> 00:23:41,616 Speaker 6: me and I'm standing behind Patrick Mahomes and watching it 555 00:23:41,656 --> 00:23:43,656 Speaker 6: in real time, it looks like a helmet to helmet. 556 00:23:43,696 --> 00:23:44,176 Speaker 2: I get it. 557 00:23:44,336 --> 00:23:46,456 Speaker 6: When he slides and he goes down, you see two 558 00:23:46,576 --> 00:23:49,616 Speaker 6: guys converging on him and just go wham. You see 559 00:23:49,616 --> 00:23:52,616 Speaker 6: the contact, you hear the contact, but you don't really 560 00:23:52,656 --> 00:23:54,736 Speaker 6: understand that those guys hit each other and he got 561 00:23:54,735 --> 00:23:57,295 Speaker 6: out of the way with just maybe a slight glancing blow. 562 00:23:57,656 --> 00:24:01,416 Speaker 6: But everybody that's watching on television and saying that's ridiculous, 563 00:24:01,576 --> 00:24:04,215 Speaker 6: you know, and I understand the point of view from 564 00:24:04,256 --> 00:24:08,455 Speaker 6: the ref and that's always the hardest thing for the 565 00:24:08,495 --> 00:24:10,535 Speaker 6: fans to understand. They're watching a real time and have 566 00:24:10,576 --> 00:24:11,896 Speaker 6: to make a split decision, and. 567 00:24:11,856 --> 00:24:13,336 Speaker 5: Some of those calls you can't go look in your 568 00:24:13,336 --> 00:24:13,816 Speaker 5: little screen. 569 00:24:14,896 --> 00:24:16,736 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're unreviewable. 570 00:24:17,776 --> 00:24:23,775 Speaker 5: Does Mahomes beat Allen and like was like the eleventh 571 00:24:23,856 --> 00:24:24,975 Speaker 5: version of this, Does he do it again? 572 00:24:25,296 --> 00:24:27,696 Speaker 6: I think that they've said that they've played eight times, 573 00:24:27,816 --> 00:24:31,856 Speaker 6: four times in the playoffs, and you know, everything goes 574 00:24:31,856 --> 00:24:35,416 Speaker 6: through Kansas City. Patrick Mahomes has established himself as one 575 00:24:35,416 --> 00:24:37,616 Speaker 6: of the greats of our game just because of his 576 00:24:37,696 --> 00:24:40,016 Speaker 6: winning record when he gets the playoffs. I think since 577 00:24:40,056 --> 00:24:42,376 Speaker 6: he's taken over his starting quarterback, they've been to the 578 00:24:42,376 --> 00:24:45,936 Speaker 6: AFC Championship Game every single year. Every time, every single 579 00:24:46,056 --> 00:24:49,975 Speaker 6: year they've won three Super Bowls. And so for Josh 580 00:24:49,975 --> 00:24:54,176 Speaker 6: Allen or guys like Lamar Jackson, this is the type 581 00:24:54,296 --> 00:24:57,936 Speaker 6: of game where you have to go and knock the 582 00:24:58,016 --> 00:25:00,455 Speaker 6: king off of this throne, I mean, and that's the 583 00:25:00,495 --> 00:25:02,536 Speaker 6: only way that you prove yourself in this league because 584 00:25:02,576 --> 00:25:05,016 Speaker 6: at the end of the day, for any quarterback, you're 585 00:25:05,096 --> 00:25:07,896 Speaker 6: judge on your wins and losses, and particularly in the playoffs, 586 00:25:07,896 --> 00:25:10,936 Speaker 6: because Josh Allen could be a remarkable player, Lamar Jackson 587 00:25:10,936 --> 00:25:12,976 Speaker 6: could be a remarkable player. But until you go get 588 00:25:12,975 --> 00:25:15,735 Speaker 6: that Super Bowl, people aren't going to remember you in 589 00:25:15,856 --> 00:25:18,096 Speaker 6: history other than being a great player. But you go 590 00:25:18,215 --> 00:25:21,015 Speaker 6: out into Kansas City, which you've proven you can win 591 00:25:21,056 --> 00:25:22,696 Speaker 6: there in the regular season, but now you have to 592 00:25:22,735 --> 00:25:25,215 Speaker 6: do it in the biggest game of the year to 593 00:25:26,455 --> 00:25:28,656 Speaker 6: kind of set up your legacy, so to speak. So 594 00:25:28,696 --> 00:25:30,336 Speaker 6: if you can go do that, you're playing the best 595 00:25:30,336 --> 00:25:33,015 Speaker 6: football you've ever played in your career. If you're Josh Allen, 596 00:25:33,336 --> 00:25:35,216 Speaker 6: You've got a team that can go in there and compete, 597 00:25:35,376 --> 00:25:36,975 Speaker 6: and now you just have to go do it and 598 00:25:37,016 --> 00:25:39,015 Speaker 6: put yourself in a position to go compete for a 599 00:25:39,056 --> 00:25:39,576 Speaker 6: Super Bowl. 600 00:25:39,735 --> 00:25:42,455 Speaker 4: I feel like the boogeyman for Lamar was last week 601 00:25:42,975 --> 00:25:45,215 Speaker 4: at least three and five in the playoffs. 602 00:25:45,256 --> 00:25:47,015 Speaker 5: It's just winning the playoffs. 603 00:25:47,176 --> 00:25:49,776 Speaker 4: But the real boogeyman for Josh Allen is this week 604 00:25:50,016 --> 00:25:55,495 Speaker 4: because it's Patrick Mahomes. Right, Lamar has trouble winning playoff games, 605 00:25:55,696 --> 00:25:57,936 Speaker 4: Josh Allen has trouble beating Patrick Mahomes in the postseeed, 606 00:25:58,096 --> 00:26:00,656 Speaker 4: that's the post season, So he's now facing his boogeyman 607 00:26:00,735 --> 00:26:01,336 Speaker 4: this week. 608 00:26:01,176 --> 00:26:04,016 Speaker 6: Right, because you've got this incredible matchup, just like last 609 00:26:04,016 --> 00:26:08,015 Speaker 6: week was between Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen, and now 610 00:26:08,056 --> 00:26:10,056 Speaker 6: you go and you get two of the best quarterbacks 611 00:26:10,096 --> 00:26:10,975 Speaker 6: in the game once again. 612 00:26:11,656 --> 00:26:14,816 Speaker 2: And again it goes back to slaying the dragon. 613 00:26:14,896 --> 00:26:17,215 Speaker 6: For Josh Allen, he's got to go in and he's 614 00:26:17,256 --> 00:26:19,176 Speaker 6: had trouble, and this team has had trouble. 615 00:26:19,176 --> 00:26:20,496 Speaker 2: It's got to be in the back of their mind. Now, 616 00:26:20,495 --> 00:26:21,416 Speaker 2: these teams are all different. 617 00:26:21,455 --> 00:26:24,176 Speaker 6: I think they've only got thirteen players that return from 618 00:26:24,176 --> 00:26:26,536 Speaker 6: when they first played in the playoffs against Patrick Mahomes. 619 00:26:26,576 --> 00:26:30,055 Speaker 6: But at the same time, they know that this is 620 00:26:30,056 --> 00:26:31,776 Speaker 6: the biggest game. It's going to be in Kansas City, 621 00:26:32,056 --> 00:26:34,735 Speaker 6: those Kansasity Chiefs fans are it's going to be hostile environment, 622 00:26:34,776 --> 00:26:36,336 Speaker 6: They're going to be loud, it's going to be hype, 623 00:26:36,696 --> 00:26:40,495 Speaker 6: and so the pressure's on Buffalo. Kansas City knows that 624 00:26:40,536 --> 00:26:43,056 Speaker 6: they've been there, they've done that. They have confidence. They've 625 00:26:43,056 --> 00:26:45,736 Speaker 6: played in so many close games this year that they 626 00:26:45,856 --> 00:26:48,295 Speaker 6: just have figured out ways to win. And that's I 627 00:26:48,296 --> 00:26:50,136 Speaker 6: don't think that they're at the caliber of team that 628 00:26:50,136 --> 00:26:53,015 Speaker 6: they've been in the past coming into these situations. Just 629 00:26:53,096 --> 00:26:55,455 Speaker 6: if you look at them from an offensive standpoint, the 630 00:26:55,536 --> 00:26:59,976 Speaker 6: explosiveness that they've shown in the past versus this year. However, 631 00:27:00,536 --> 00:27:02,255 Speaker 6: they still figure out ways to win. And that's the 632 00:27:02,296 --> 00:27:03,936 Speaker 6: mark of a good team. And you've got a guy 633 00:27:04,376 --> 00:27:06,736 Speaker 6: Patrick Mahomes with a you read that has proven that, 634 00:27:06,856 --> 00:27:09,376 Speaker 6: and their track records proven that time in and timeout. 635 00:27:09,936 --> 00:27:12,216 Speaker 5: NFC commanders are playing with house money at this point. 636 00:27:12,296 --> 00:27:14,975 Speaker 2: Right. I love it, man, I love it. Did you 637 00:27:15,016 --> 00:27:16,456 Speaker 2: ever envision them? No? 638 00:27:16,455 --> 00:27:20,856 Speaker 5: No, No, For two reasons. One, it's a rookie quarterback. 639 00:27:21,495 --> 00:27:23,936 Speaker 4: So until last year, we really hadn't seen a rookie 640 00:27:23,975 --> 00:27:26,936 Speaker 4: do what Stroud did last year. But Jada Daniels has 641 00:27:27,336 --> 00:27:29,775 Speaker 4: now supplanted him as the best rookie quarterback season of 642 00:27:29,816 --> 00:27:30,296 Speaker 4: all time. 643 00:27:30,455 --> 00:27:31,735 Speaker 5: Right, And so no. 644 00:27:32,056 --> 00:27:37,576 Speaker 4: And also their colors are slow, and their logo sucks 645 00:27:37,816 --> 00:27:40,696 Speaker 4: and so no, I can't see and a lot of 646 00:27:40,735 --> 00:27:42,656 Speaker 4: their logo sucks. Good never won with it, and so 647 00:27:42,696 --> 00:27:44,455 Speaker 4: I just think of that is just a losing logo. 648 00:27:44,856 --> 00:27:46,856 Speaker 6: They haven't been to the championship game, in the NFC 649 00:27:46,975 --> 00:27:48,776 Speaker 6: championship game since nineteen ninety one. 650 00:27:49,455 --> 00:27:51,455 Speaker 5: Was that like Mark Grippen years, it h it had 651 00:27:51,455 --> 00:27:51,896 Speaker 5: to be, it had. 652 00:27:51,816 --> 00:27:52,535 Speaker 7: To be the Hogs. 653 00:27:52,576 --> 00:27:56,376 Speaker 4: And yeah, I mean, so the pressures on the Eagles then, 654 00:27:56,416 --> 00:27:58,455 Speaker 4: because the Commanders are playing with house money. 655 00:27:58,296 --> 00:28:02,096 Speaker 6: Right, think about this new ownership, new coach and Dan Quinn, 656 00:28:03,096 --> 00:28:07,376 Speaker 6: rookie quarterback Jade Daniels phenomenal. They won four games last year, 657 00:28:07,735 --> 00:28:10,295 Speaker 6: they come in, they go twelve and five, they get 658 00:28:10,376 --> 00:28:12,136 Speaker 6: in the playoffs. Everybody's like, well, they got to go 659 00:28:12,136 --> 00:28:15,656 Speaker 6: to Tampa. You know they're the seventh seed. All these 660 00:28:15,696 --> 00:28:18,896 Speaker 6: things go down. Beat Tampa. Now you're going up against 661 00:28:18,896 --> 00:28:23,775 Speaker 6: a juggernaut fifteen and two Detroit Lions at home stadium state. 662 00:28:23,896 --> 00:28:26,215 Speaker 6: Everybody's hype. I mean, nobody can stop this machine that 663 00:28:26,256 --> 00:28:29,616 Speaker 6: they have in Detroit. And they go out and somehow 664 00:28:30,536 --> 00:28:34,896 Speaker 6: some way create what four turnovers, four or five turnovers 665 00:28:34,896 --> 00:28:38,376 Speaker 6: in that game. They capitalize on everyone. They had three 666 00:28:38,576 --> 00:28:42,056 Speaker 6: fourth down conversions in the red zone to extend drives 667 00:28:42,056 --> 00:28:45,096 Speaker 6: and get touchdowns. Jayden Daniels plays out of his mind, 668 00:28:45,696 --> 00:28:48,496 Speaker 6: and I'd say the defense had a bin but don't 669 00:28:48,496 --> 00:28:51,376 Speaker 6: break mentality. They gave up over five hundred yards of offense, 670 00:28:51,536 --> 00:28:54,176 Speaker 6: but they capitalized when they needed to and create turnovers. 671 00:28:54,536 --> 00:28:58,256 Speaker 6: That really the first turnover, the strip sack was huge. 672 00:28:58,256 --> 00:29:01,016 Speaker 6: They're on the twenty yard line. First and ten. At 673 00:29:01,016 --> 00:29:04,016 Speaker 6: the end of the half, Jared Goff steps back another 674 00:29:04,056 --> 00:29:05,776 Speaker 6: first and ten on the thirty yard line. Go Get 675 00:29:05,776 --> 00:29:08,096 Speaker 6: points to kind of build that momentum before you go 676 00:29:08,096 --> 00:29:10,856 Speaker 6: in a halftime, throws an interception there, throws the pick 677 00:29:10,936 --> 00:29:13,176 Speaker 6: six in the second court. I mean, so there was 678 00:29:13,256 --> 00:29:15,376 Speaker 6: all these different elements and it was a complete team win. 679 00:29:15,456 --> 00:29:18,016 Speaker 6: But Jaden Daniels the way that he played, I mean, 680 00:29:18,056 --> 00:29:22,496 Speaker 6: the dude is unfazed, the poise, the confidence. He doesn't 681 00:29:22,496 --> 00:29:26,575 Speaker 6: look like a rookie, and that is unbelievable for a 682 00:29:26,616 --> 00:29:29,656 Speaker 6: guy to step into on those different stages and just 683 00:29:29,696 --> 00:29:30,816 Speaker 6: look unphased by the moment. 684 00:29:31,136 --> 00:29:35,856 Speaker 4: Yeah, my question about how composed he is, because he 685 00:29:35,896 --> 00:29:39,496 Speaker 4: looks wildly composed, even for not a rookie in those situations, right, 686 00:29:39,576 --> 00:29:43,776 Speaker 4: because it looks like he's dialed and he's focused and 687 00:29:43,816 --> 00:29:45,976 Speaker 4: it's not affecting him in a way of like, I 688 00:29:46,016 --> 00:29:46,776 Speaker 4: just imagine his. 689 00:29:46,656 --> 00:29:47,656 Speaker 5: Heart is just chilling. 690 00:29:48,016 --> 00:29:51,736 Speaker 4: Heart rate gets up. You're you're reacting more than you're 691 00:29:51,776 --> 00:29:53,176 Speaker 4: thinking and responding. 692 00:29:52,736 --> 00:29:55,096 Speaker 2: And you're you're rushing through your reeds and your throats. 693 00:29:55,096 --> 00:29:55,256 Speaker 6: Oh. 694 00:29:55,416 --> 00:29:57,056 Speaker 5: I can feel his heartbeat by watching him, and he 695 00:29:57,096 --> 00:30:00,736 Speaker 5: goes like this, it was nothing to him, and. 696 00:30:00,696 --> 00:30:02,816 Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying, like they had to convert. I 697 00:30:03,136 --> 00:30:06,576 Speaker 6: think he threw two touchdown passes on four down. Those 698 00:30:06,616 --> 00:30:09,536 Speaker 6: are big time moments for any quarterback. You're in there, 699 00:30:09,736 --> 00:30:11,296 Speaker 6: you're like you could be in the moment and when 700 00:30:11,296 --> 00:30:13,256 Speaker 6: you're locked in the zone that's one thing, but for 701 00:30:13,296 --> 00:30:16,096 Speaker 6: any quarterback, you feel those moments. And plus in that 702 00:30:16,176 --> 00:30:19,416 Speaker 6: type of environment when the stadium everybody's screaming, they know 703 00:30:19,496 --> 00:30:22,936 Speaker 6: the significance of what's going on, and that you're just like, 704 00:30:23,736 --> 00:30:26,576 Speaker 6: no big deal, another walking a part, boom, Hey, suck 705 00:30:26,616 --> 00:30:29,416 Speaker 6: on that. I mean, it's pretty pretty remarkable. 706 00:30:29,456 --> 00:30:30,815 Speaker 4: And for him to have the ability because there were 707 00:30:30,816 --> 00:30:33,976 Speaker 4: a couple of short fourth down plays where he just 708 00:30:35,416 --> 00:30:37,256 Speaker 4: ran it around the edge, right because it was nothing 709 00:30:37,256 --> 00:30:40,256 Speaker 4: that they couldn't stop it. You know, when that was 710 00:30:41,056 --> 00:30:44,136 Speaker 4: it looked to be an option, meaning he had like 711 00:30:44,136 --> 00:30:48,136 Speaker 4: three options and it was so easy a rounded because 712 00:30:48,176 --> 00:30:51,456 Speaker 4: he's quick, he's fast, but he's quick, he's quick, and 713 00:30:51,496 --> 00:30:54,136 Speaker 4: there's a difference, right. Yeah, it was pretty amazing to 714 00:30:54,136 --> 00:30:56,576 Speaker 4: see who's the player you think of that you played with, 715 00:30:57,016 --> 00:30:59,816 Speaker 4: that had poise to where you're going. 716 00:30:59,856 --> 00:31:01,096 Speaker 5: Is that person even a human? 717 00:31:02,376 --> 00:31:06,056 Speaker 6: I mean, the easy answer Obviously, the first guy I 718 00:31:06,056 --> 00:31:07,736 Speaker 6: ever played with and was in the room with for 719 00:31:07,736 --> 00:31:11,856 Speaker 6: four years was Tom Brady. I mean, when the situation 720 00:31:12,016 --> 00:31:13,816 Speaker 6: called for it, and he was at his best in 721 00:31:13,856 --> 00:31:16,536 Speaker 6: those two minute drills, and we repped those two minute 722 00:31:16,616 --> 00:31:21,136 Speaker 6: situations all the time. But it was just methodical for him. 723 00:31:21,376 --> 00:31:23,216 Speaker 6: He knew how he wanted to call it, where he 724 00:31:23,256 --> 00:31:26,216 Speaker 6: wanted to go with the ball. And the thing that's hard, 725 00:31:26,376 --> 00:31:30,056 Speaker 6: I think for a lot of quarterbacks is that risk reward. 726 00:31:30,136 --> 00:31:31,496 Speaker 6: A lot of times we want to push the ball 727 00:31:31,536 --> 00:31:33,656 Speaker 6: down the field, get as much as we can right now. 728 00:31:34,016 --> 00:31:37,376 Speaker 6: But he was so steady and consistent. And I remember 729 00:31:37,456 --> 00:31:41,096 Speaker 6: one time my rookie year, we're in Pittsburgh on the road, 730 00:31:41,936 --> 00:31:44,016 Speaker 6: two minute drill to go set up a game winning 731 00:31:44,056 --> 00:31:45,976 Speaker 6: field goal. All we needed was a field goal, I think, 732 00:31:46,536 --> 00:31:50,496 Speaker 6: and he just took checkdown after checkdown after checkdown because 733 00:31:50,496 --> 00:31:52,696 Speaker 6: they're playing zone coverage or trying to get that guard 734 00:31:52,696 --> 00:31:57,056 Speaker 6: against the big ball, and just his diligence in that 735 00:31:57,096 --> 00:32:00,536 Speaker 6: situation and his composure to see the field and not 736 00:32:00,576 --> 00:32:03,056 Speaker 6: get greedy and just continue to take the profit. 737 00:32:03,096 --> 00:32:05,056 Speaker 2: And he understanding like, hey, we've got to get up 738 00:32:05,056 --> 00:32:05,376 Speaker 2: on the ball. 739 00:32:05,376 --> 00:32:08,096 Speaker 6: I'll clock it, get everybody set up, go take the 740 00:32:08,176 --> 00:32:10,536 Speaker 6: check down, Take the checkdown. But these are five ten 741 00:32:10,616 --> 00:32:12,976 Speaker 6: yard chunks and all he was doing was moving us 742 00:32:12,976 --> 00:32:15,216 Speaker 6: down the field. Now, there were plenty of times where 743 00:32:15,616 --> 00:32:18,216 Speaker 6: he saw, all of a sudden, they're bringing pressure, he's 744 00:32:18,256 --> 00:32:20,976 Speaker 6: going to take the shot down the field and do that. 745 00:32:21,016 --> 00:32:24,456 Speaker 6: But he was so good and so composed in those 746 00:32:24,456 --> 00:32:27,096 Speaker 6: situations that he was unfazed by the moment, and it 747 00:32:27,136 --> 00:32:29,656 Speaker 6: was almost like he thrived in those moments. And those 748 00:32:29,696 --> 00:32:32,416 Speaker 6: are the exciting players to be around. Even Stafford was 749 00:32:32,416 --> 00:32:34,656 Speaker 6: another guy that I played with in Detroit. It was 750 00:32:34,896 --> 00:32:37,216 Speaker 6: amazing because we're behind a lot late in the game, 751 00:32:37,776 --> 00:32:41,136 Speaker 6: and that's the toughest thing is when you don't when 752 00:32:41,176 --> 00:32:44,536 Speaker 6: you just need a field goal, that's easy, like for us, 753 00:32:44,536 --> 00:32:46,456 Speaker 6: we gotta get you to the thirty yard line or 754 00:32:46,496 --> 00:32:48,736 Speaker 6: whatever the guy's ranges, and the coach will come in 755 00:32:48,736 --> 00:32:50,456 Speaker 6: here and be like, hey, we gotta get to the 756 00:32:50,496 --> 00:32:52,456 Speaker 6: thirty five yard line to kick a field goal. When 757 00:32:52,496 --> 00:32:55,456 Speaker 6: you're down by a touchdown, all of a sudden, it 758 00:32:55,616 --> 00:32:58,856 Speaker 6: ratchets up a lot because you just don't have the time. 759 00:32:59,096 --> 00:33:01,176 Speaker 6: But when you're down two scores and the defense knows 760 00:33:01,216 --> 00:33:03,256 Speaker 6: you've got to throw and they're coming off the edge. 761 00:33:03,776 --> 00:33:06,216 Speaker 6: How do you respond in those moments because your sense 762 00:33:06,216 --> 00:33:08,376 Speaker 6: of urgency goes up, and then if you can go 763 00:33:08,416 --> 00:33:10,616 Speaker 6: down and put that one score on the game, I 764 00:33:10,656 --> 00:33:13,456 Speaker 6: mean one score, make it a one score game, and 765 00:33:13,456 --> 00:33:15,056 Speaker 6: then your defense got to do its job and get 766 00:33:15,096 --> 00:33:17,335 Speaker 6: the ball back. Those are when you're really tested as 767 00:33:17,336 --> 00:33:19,656 Speaker 6: a quarterback, when you're down and you've got to come 768 00:33:19,696 --> 00:33:21,496 Speaker 6: back from multiple scores late in the game. 769 00:33:21,896 --> 00:33:39,976 Speaker 4: And London Fletcher coming up back in a second. About 770 00:33:39,976 --> 00:33:42,056 Speaker 4: to talk with London Fletcher. He is now an analyst 771 00:33:42,056 --> 00:33:44,816 Speaker 4: for the Washington Commander's Radio team. Joined the broadcast team 772 00:33:44,816 --> 00:33:46,576 Speaker 4: in twenty twenty two. I wanted to play a few 773 00:33:46,576 --> 00:33:50,376 Speaker 4: clips from the game last Saturday night Commander's Radio Network 774 00:33:50,456 --> 00:33:54,136 Speaker 4: with Bram Weinstein London Fletcher. They're on the call. This 775 00:33:54,216 --> 00:33:56,536 Speaker 4: is second quarter. The Commander's at a pick six from 776 00:33:56,576 --> 00:33:57,096 Speaker 4: Kwan Martin. 777 00:33:57,096 --> 00:33:58,296 Speaker 2: Here you go, crush it up. 778 00:33:58,336 --> 00:34:03,376 Speaker 8: The little golf has ten and feelers. 779 00:34:05,696 --> 00:34:14,256 Speaker 5: Jaredy Fine pick six, touchdown, touchdown, Loucking god quad and. 780 00:34:14,576 --> 00:34:18,256 Speaker 3: In Actuick broke least to the clam Martin tip down 781 00:34:18,336 --> 00:34:22,216 Speaker 3: eight pound. Benny Tortois has swarmed into the end zone 782 00:34:22,256 --> 00:34:23,536 Speaker 3: of the deck Troy Lon. 783 00:34:23,776 --> 00:34:28,416 Speaker 5: WHOA, that's fun. 784 00:34:28,896 --> 00:34:29,496 Speaker 2: That's awesome. 785 00:34:29,536 --> 00:34:32,256 Speaker 4: I love home team broadcast now because they just get 786 00:34:32,336 --> 00:34:34,256 Speaker 4: to do what they want to do as the home team. 787 00:34:34,696 --> 00:34:37,176 Speaker 5: That's super cool. Here's the game ceiling, picked by Jeremy 788 00:34:37,216 --> 00:34:38,136 Speaker 5: chen for the Commanders. 789 00:34:38,416 --> 00:34:41,896 Speaker 8: Snap the golf steps off, good pocket to a middle 790 00:34:41,936 --> 00:34:42,576 Speaker 8: bit pick off. 791 00:34:42,896 --> 00:34:44,056 Speaker 2: Jeremy Chitz counting. 792 00:34:44,456 --> 00:34:44,856 Speaker 5: That's it. 793 00:34:46,016 --> 00:34:48,376 Speaker 2: Celebrate like it's nineteen ninety one. 794 00:34:49,016 --> 00:34:51,616 Speaker 5: We're going to the NFIT Championship game. 795 00:34:52,536 --> 00:34:55,776 Speaker 3: This is the Motown, the home of Motown to tonight 796 00:34:55,896 --> 00:34:57,296 Speaker 3: they'll be playing at Boom. 797 00:35:00,536 --> 00:35:00,896 Speaker 2: All right. 798 00:35:00,936 --> 00:35:02,656 Speaker 5: Here he is, London Fletcher. 799 00:35:05,736 --> 00:35:09,376 Speaker 4: I'm sitting here listening to a biography of a quarterback 800 00:35:09,416 --> 00:35:12,696 Speaker 4: who played you for like ten minutes Castles, Like dude 801 00:35:12,816 --> 00:35:16,416 Speaker 4: was everywhere, like every he was talking about everywhere you played, 802 00:35:16,856 --> 00:35:18,856 Speaker 4: Like so I just kind of want to pass it 803 00:35:18,896 --> 00:35:20,776 Speaker 4: over to Matt to start, but just know if your 804 00:35:20,816 --> 00:35:22,536 Speaker 4: ears were burning or your nose was itching, like my 805 00:35:22,576 --> 00:35:24,815 Speaker 4: grandma used to say, Like I was here in ten 806 00:35:24,856 --> 00:35:27,456 Speaker 4: minutes of how dynamic of a defensive player you were 807 00:35:27,456 --> 00:35:28,536 Speaker 4: against this guy over. 808 00:35:28,376 --> 00:35:31,416 Speaker 2: Here, Aylen, I'm your biggest fan, London. 809 00:35:31,456 --> 00:35:33,296 Speaker 6: I mean I was sitting there, I was like he 810 00:35:33,456 --> 00:35:35,576 Speaker 6: was one of the toughest middle linebackers to go up 811 00:35:35,616 --> 00:35:39,256 Speaker 6: to against because he was sidelined the sideline. He was instinctive, 812 00:35:39,336 --> 00:35:42,856 Speaker 6: he knew route combinations and would jump stuff. But he's 813 00:35:42,896 --> 00:35:45,176 Speaker 6: also had the speed to get down the middle in 814 00:35:45,216 --> 00:35:47,456 Speaker 6: that Tampa two defense that you guys would always play. 815 00:35:47,496 --> 00:35:50,016 Speaker 2: So I am an absolute huge. 816 00:35:49,816 --> 00:35:51,856 Speaker 6: Fan and I was actually looking at some of your 817 00:35:51,896 --> 00:35:55,576 Speaker 6: stuff and did you really run a four to three 818 00:35:55,816 --> 00:35:57,576 Speaker 6: eight when you're coming out of college? 819 00:35:57,856 --> 00:36:00,416 Speaker 8: I did, And I've been investing with with frids move. 820 00:36:00,976 --> 00:36:03,256 Speaker 8: He's he does some shows with me here in Washington, 821 00:36:03,576 --> 00:36:06,016 Speaker 8: and I tease him that I was fastiday him in 822 00:36:06,016 --> 00:36:07,296 Speaker 8: the forty and it kills him. 823 00:36:09,816 --> 00:36:11,616 Speaker 7: He told me it was that John Carroll. It was 824 00:36:11,656 --> 00:36:12,736 Speaker 7: only thirty eight yards. 825 00:36:12,736 --> 00:36:19,576 Speaker 9: But why do you think you weren't drafted at four 826 00:36:19,816 --> 00:36:23,576 Speaker 9: three eight with your size because it was It wasn't 827 00:36:23,616 --> 00:36:25,616 Speaker 9: like you were one hundred and twenty pounds like you 828 00:36:25,656 --> 00:36:26,376 Speaker 9: had size on. 829 00:36:26,856 --> 00:36:27,976 Speaker 5: Why were you drafted? 830 00:36:28,056 --> 00:36:28,376 Speaker 2: You think? 831 00:36:28,616 --> 00:36:30,696 Speaker 8: Well, because of the Division II school, you know, being 832 00:36:30,776 --> 00:36:34,416 Speaker 8: playing at the Division three, being undersized at the linebacker position. 833 00:36:34,496 --> 00:36:37,216 Speaker 7: So I'm five ten coming out of college. I was. 834 00:36:37,856 --> 00:36:40,896 Speaker 8: I played my senior year maybe two thirty two thirty 835 00:36:40,936 --> 00:36:44,936 Speaker 8: five and the competition, so you know, people are looking 836 00:36:45,056 --> 00:36:48,896 Speaker 8: for reasons to kind of knock you if you're undersized 837 00:36:48,896 --> 00:36:51,616 Speaker 8: and you played the Division three regardless of of the speed. 838 00:36:51,656 --> 00:36:55,616 Speaker 8: Because I thought, based on my productivity and how fast 839 00:36:55,656 --> 00:36:58,216 Speaker 8: I ran, man, I thought I was getting drafted in. 840 00:36:58,136 --> 00:36:58,856 Speaker 7: The third round. 841 00:36:59,016 --> 00:37:01,056 Speaker 8: I was like, Okay, they're gonna draft me in the 842 00:37:01,056 --> 00:37:04,136 Speaker 8: first round, but third route seems logical. 843 00:37:04,816 --> 00:37:07,296 Speaker 2: Was that something? Use it as motivation when you went 844 00:37:07,336 --> 00:37:07,896 Speaker 2: into your career. 845 00:37:07,936 --> 00:37:10,056 Speaker 6: Obviously you're trying to make the team early on, but 846 00:37:10,096 --> 00:37:12,056 Speaker 6: once you do that and establish that was that year 847 00:37:12,096 --> 00:37:13,856 Speaker 6: and year out something that you always had a chip 848 00:37:13,856 --> 00:37:15,936 Speaker 6: on your shoulder, motivation that you use in the back 849 00:37:15,976 --> 00:37:18,856 Speaker 6: of your mind to just excel and continue to push 850 00:37:19,096 --> 00:37:21,096 Speaker 6: week I mean week in, week out, year and year out. 851 00:37:21,456 --> 00:37:24,256 Speaker 8: It was for I would say, probably, let's call it 852 00:37:24,256 --> 00:37:28,576 Speaker 8: maybe my first five, four, five or six years in 853 00:37:28,616 --> 00:37:31,216 Speaker 8: the league, I would always try to look for something 854 00:37:32,016 --> 00:37:34,456 Speaker 8: to give give me an aed, some some reason, and 855 00:37:34,456 --> 00:37:36,616 Speaker 8: then I held on to that for a long time 856 00:37:36,656 --> 00:37:39,216 Speaker 8: to doubt. I can remember my first year starting in 857 00:37:39,216 --> 00:37:41,136 Speaker 8: Saint Louis. It was my second year in the league, 858 00:37:41,936 --> 00:37:46,496 Speaker 8: and ESPN the magazine had a preseason kind of roster 859 00:37:46,616 --> 00:37:49,776 Speaker 8: preview where they would rate all the starters offense, defense, 860 00:37:49,816 --> 00:37:52,856 Speaker 8: and then special teams guys one through five, five being 861 00:37:52,856 --> 00:37:55,296 Speaker 8: the highest, one being the lowest. And I'm looking at 862 00:37:55,336 --> 00:37:58,136 Speaker 8: this this magazine. I was all excited, Hey, I'm a 863 00:37:58,176 --> 00:38:00,416 Speaker 8: starter and I want to see what they say about me. 864 00:38:00,456 --> 00:38:02,216 Speaker 7: And they had they rated me a one. 865 00:38:02,856 --> 00:38:05,536 Speaker 8: It's like, if if loved the Fletcher's starting on this 866 00:38:05,576 --> 00:38:07,496 Speaker 8: team by Halloween, we'll buy you a car. 867 00:38:08,176 --> 00:38:10,776 Speaker 7: And so I'm pissed. I mean, and I put. 868 00:38:10,576 --> 00:38:14,496 Speaker 8: This this magazine on my coffee table the entire season. 869 00:38:14,816 --> 00:38:16,776 Speaker 8: So I ended up starting all the games for Washington. 870 00:38:16,776 --> 00:38:20,576 Speaker 8: Our defense plays extremely well. So they did a postseason 871 00:38:20,736 --> 00:38:23,656 Speaker 8: edition of the same magazine. Now they're previewing all the 872 00:38:23,696 --> 00:38:27,336 Speaker 8: postseason teams, and we make the playoffs, and then they 873 00:38:27,416 --> 00:38:29,776 Speaker 8: rated me like a four, and it's like, hey, if 874 00:38:29,816 --> 00:38:33,216 Speaker 8: London Fletcher is not the leading tackler in the postseason 875 00:38:33,216 --> 00:38:35,296 Speaker 8: for this team, will buy you a car. And I 876 00:38:35,336 --> 00:38:38,416 Speaker 8: told later on that we end up winning Super Bowl. 877 00:38:38,536 --> 00:38:42,256 Speaker 8: So I had my media date. I was like, man, ESPN, 878 00:38:42,296 --> 00:38:43,936 Speaker 8: y'all owe me a car, and I wanted to be 879 00:38:43,976 --> 00:38:48,256 Speaker 8: a rams blue Mercedes Benz. So I definitely use those 880 00:38:48,296 --> 00:38:49,576 Speaker 8: things as motivation. 881 00:38:50,256 --> 00:38:53,696 Speaker 4: One of my good friends is DeMarcus Ware, and you 882 00:38:53,696 --> 00:38:55,616 Speaker 4: know he did not play the Power five now Power 883 00:38:55,616 --> 00:38:56,096 Speaker 4: four school. 884 00:38:56,096 --> 00:38:57,816 Speaker 2: He played at Troy, but he grew. 885 00:38:57,656 --> 00:39:02,056 Speaker 5: A lot in college, like substantial growth Scottie Pippen esque 886 00:39:02,256 --> 00:39:04,416 Speaker 5: where he grew like six inches when he was at 887 00:39:04,496 --> 00:39:08,936 Speaker 5: Central Arkansas playing basketball, and demarcts. Yeah, DeMarcus was like, I. 888 00:39:08,856 --> 00:39:12,696 Speaker 4: Grew so much and I was already working really hard 889 00:39:12,736 --> 00:39:15,496 Speaker 4: that things just kind of fell in. Where for you 890 00:39:15,576 --> 00:39:18,176 Speaker 4: did it click physically coming out of high school? Were 891 00:39:18,216 --> 00:39:21,136 Speaker 4: you undersized or where in college did physically it start 892 00:39:21,176 --> 00:39:21,856 Speaker 4: to make sense for you? 893 00:39:22,216 --> 00:39:25,016 Speaker 8: I would say I was from I probably stopped growing 894 00:39:25,496 --> 00:39:28,376 Speaker 8: my senior year, so I went to college at five 895 00:39:28,456 --> 00:39:31,056 Speaker 8: ten and never grew. I will say just the I 896 00:39:31,136 --> 00:39:35,056 Speaker 8: was raw from a football standpoint. Once I got to college. 897 00:39:35,056 --> 00:39:37,616 Speaker 8: I only played one year high school football. I was 898 00:39:37,896 --> 00:39:40,936 Speaker 8: a basketball guy up until my senior year, only played 899 00:39:40,936 --> 00:39:45,456 Speaker 8: the one year high school football. Didn't play football initially 900 00:39:45,936 --> 00:39:48,736 Speaker 8: again until what was my third year in college, and 901 00:39:48,776 --> 00:39:51,016 Speaker 8: so as I got more reps and got more experience, 902 00:39:51,536 --> 00:39:54,336 Speaker 8: that's when it kind of took off for me. Initially, 903 00:39:54,376 --> 00:39:57,296 Speaker 8: I'm just surviving off my raw athleticism and talent. 904 00:39:57,576 --> 00:39:59,376 Speaker 7: But once I was able to learn. 905 00:39:59,696 --> 00:40:04,096 Speaker 8: Defensive scheme, offensive schemes, and understand kind of the game 906 00:40:04,136 --> 00:40:06,816 Speaker 8: a lot better that that's when it really took off 907 00:40:06,856 --> 00:40:07,056 Speaker 8: of me. 908 00:40:08,536 --> 00:40:11,136 Speaker 7: As I got to the pros, got great coaching. 909 00:40:11,336 --> 00:40:13,896 Speaker 8: And my knowledge of the game, it elevated even more. 910 00:40:14,136 --> 00:40:16,896 Speaker 8: And it was a I would say, probably my fifth 911 00:40:16,936 --> 00:40:20,296 Speaker 8: sixth year in the league where where your athleticism and 912 00:40:20,336 --> 00:40:23,536 Speaker 8: your knowledge of the game intertwined. And that's where where 913 00:40:23,536 --> 00:40:25,056 Speaker 8: it just really took off of me and I was 914 00:40:25,096 --> 00:40:29,176 Speaker 8: playing playing my best football during the middle of my year, 915 00:40:29,296 --> 00:40:30,456 Speaker 8: my years in the NFL. 916 00:40:31,296 --> 00:40:33,656 Speaker 6: We in you are the epitome of an iron man. 917 00:40:33,816 --> 00:40:38,656 Speaker 6: I mean, sixteen seasons, two hundred and fifteen consecutive starts. 918 00:40:38,456 --> 00:40:40,016 Speaker 5: Fifty six fifty six. 919 00:40:40,136 --> 00:40:43,256 Speaker 6: Yet that extra forty you got to give you the 920 00:40:43,296 --> 00:40:44,576 Speaker 6: extra forty one hundred percent? 921 00:40:45,096 --> 00:40:47,376 Speaker 2: What do you credit that too? 922 00:40:47,496 --> 00:40:50,856 Speaker 6: Because in today's game, with guys like Derrick Henry Lebron James, 923 00:40:50,856 --> 00:40:52,656 Speaker 6: you know they spend a million dollars a year on 924 00:40:52,696 --> 00:40:57,096 Speaker 6: their body. How did you stay healthy, stay on the field. 925 00:40:57,176 --> 00:40:58,576 Speaker 6: Did you always play through injuries? Like? 926 00:40:58,616 --> 00:41:00,456 Speaker 2: What were some of the things that you did to 927 00:41:00,496 --> 00:41:01,256 Speaker 2: stay on the field. 928 00:41:01,496 --> 00:41:03,536 Speaker 8: I'll tell you that onen't they I wasn't spending anywhere 929 00:41:03,576 --> 00:41:09,016 Speaker 8: near close to a million dollars. Old man, I say 930 00:41:09,056 --> 00:41:12,176 Speaker 8: this the way I was made. You know, God kind 931 00:41:12,176 --> 00:41:16,216 Speaker 8: of built me in a in a compact, you know, 932 00:41:16,416 --> 00:41:19,696 Speaker 8: with help with the game of football I did. I 933 00:41:19,736 --> 00:41:23,176 Speaker 8: never really had those catastrophic injuries where guys can do 934 00:41:23,216 --> 00:41:26,136 Speaker 8: everything the right way and you'll have a guy blowing 935 00:41:26,176 --> 00:41:26,536 Speaker 8: knee out. 936 00:41:26,576 --> 00:41:27,856 Speaker 7: We just had Sam cosed me. 937 00:41:28,296 --> 00:41:30,976 Speaker 8: You know, a great player here and he's doing everything 938 00:41:31,096 --> 00:41:33,736 Speaker 8: the right way and gets his knee rolled up, blew 939 00:41:33,736 --> 00:41:36,336 Speaker 8: out his a c L. I never had those type 940 00:41:36,336 --> 00:41:38,976 Speaker 8: of situations, but I did do a lot of the 941 00:41:39,056 --> 00:41:42,616 Speaker 8: maintenance stuff, whether it was the massages, the cold tub, 942 00:41:42,656 --> 00:41:47,336 Speaker 8: hot tub, the dry needling, the art rest. Rest was 943 00:41:47,336 --> 00:41:50,296 Speaker 8: big in my in my repertoire, getting my rest and 944 00:41:50,456 --> 00:41:53,576 Speaker 8: just really listening to to my body. If I felt 945 00:41:53,576 --> 00:41:56,336 Speaker 8: a little something a little blew out of whack, maybe 946 00:41:56,496 --> 00:41:58,936 Speaker 8: dial in the back end practice, going to give him 947 00:41:58,936 --> 00:42:01,616 Speaker 8: my chiropractice or my my person who worked on my 948 00:42:01,656 --> 00:42:04,096 Speaker 8: soft tissue, or the trainers. So it was a lot 949 00:42:04,136 --> 00:42:05,856 Speaker 8: of a lot of those types of things idea. But 950 00:42:06,536 --> 00:42:08,936 Speaker 8: I was getting as many pre things as possible through 951 00:42:08,976 --> 00:42:09,296 Speaker 8: the team. 952 00:42:09,296 --> 00:42:20,896 Speaker 10: I wasn't spend of that million dollars. 953 00:42:27,896 --> 00:42:31,616 Speaker 5: This is a wide open question. Jade daniels Go makes 954 00:42:31,616 --> 00:42:32,096 Speaker 5: it special. 955 00:42:32,696 --> 00:42:38,616 Speaker 8: I think, first and foremost his work ethic, and we all, 956 00:42:38,656 --> 00:42:41,656 Speaker 8: you know, know people who work hard, especially at the quarterback. 957 00:42:41,696 --> 00:42:44,696 Speaker 8: I think you know most quarterbacks they have you in 958 00:42:44,776 --> 00:42:47,256 Speaker 8: order to say you have to work extremely hard. 959 00:42:47,296 --> 00:42:50,376 Speaker 7: But it seems like he's for a young guy. He 960 00:42:50,496 --> 00:42:51,376 Speaker 7: came in here. 961 00:42:51,256 --> 00:42:54,736 Speaker 8: Already with a tremendous work ethic, and he knew he 962 00:42:54,816 --> 00:42:57,456 Speaker 8: had a routine already mapped out where he's getting in 963 00:42:57,496 --> 00:43:00,776 Speaker 8: here at six am, getting on the virtual of the 964 00:43:00,856 --> 00:43:05,335 Speaker 8: VR stuff and getting all those extra reps. The work 965 00:43:05,496 --> 00:43:09,296 Speaker 8: ethic and the humility that he carries himself with. He 966 00:43:09,336 --> 00:43:11,496 Speaker 8: doesn't get too high, doesn't read his press clippers. He 967 00:43:11,536 --> 00:43:15,216 Speaker 8: didn't come in here feeling entitled, thinking that Hey, I'm 968 00:43:15,256 --> 00:43:17,416 Speaker 8: the number two overall draft pick for m a Heisman 969 00:43:17,496 --> 00:43:21,856 Speaker 8: Trophy winner. This franchise has been wanting a franchise quarterback 970 00:43:21,896 --> 00:43:22,616 Speaker 8: for forever. 971 00:43:23,216 --> 00:43:24,416 Speaker 7: I'm going to be that guy. 972 00:43:24,536 --> 00:43:26,536 Speaker 8: No, I'm gonna come in here, earn it, earn it 973 00:43:26,616 --> 00:43:30,336 Speaker 8: respect to my teammates, with my work ethic, and continue 974 00:43:30,536 --> 00:43:33,976 Speaker 8: to operate in great humility. And you know, just let 975 00:43:34,056 --> 00:43:37,336 Speaker 8: my natural guy bi ability take over, and you know, 976 00:43:37,376 --> 00:43:40,096 Speaker 8: you couple all those things with the gifts that he has, 977 00:43:40,136 --> 00:43:41,976 Speaker 8: and that's what makes him so special. 978 00:43:42,696 --> 00:43:46,136 Speaker 6: When you think about the Washington Commanders just even a 979 00:43:46,136 --> 00:43:48,176 Speaker 6: few years ago and the bad rap that they got 980 00:43:48,656 --> 00:43:50,936 Speaker 6: with ownership and just the team itself not having a 981 00:43:50,976 --> 00:43:54,096 Speaker 6: tremendous amount of success, and then this year it's new ownership, 982 00:43:54,296 --> 00:43:56,736 Speaker 6: new head coach with dan Quinn Jaden Daniels. Did you 983 00:43:56,776 --> 00:43:59,856 Speaker 6: ever envision them being at this position that they are 984 00:43:59,936 --> 00:44:03,496 Speaker 6: right now competing for an NFC championship when you started 985 00:44:03,496 --> 00:44:03,816 Speaker 6: this year. 986 00:44:04,216 --> 00:44:07,936 Speaker 8: I be lying if I tell you I thought that 987 00:44:08,216 --> 00:44:11,176 Speaker 8: I would say this when when the new ownership group 988 00:44:11,256 --> 00:44:13,256 Speaker 8: came in and they've they've done a lot of They've 989 00:44:13,256 --> 00:44:16,936 Speaker 8: provided a lot of resources for the not just the 990 00:44:16,936 --> 00:44:19,976 Speaker 8: football team, but the organization to have success on and 991 00:44:20,016 --> 00:44:23,416 Speaker 8: off the field, hiring Ada Peters as a general manager. 992 00:44:23,616 --> 00:44:25,256 Speaker 8: Then you go out and you hire dan Quinn and 993 00:44:25,496 --> 00:44:28,856 Speaker 8: this the staff that they brought together. Being intentional with 994 00:44:28,896 --> 00:44:31,016 Speaker 8: the players that they put together, I felt like this 995 00:44:31,056 --> 00:44:35,496 Speaker 8: team would be extremely competitive. There's something that our fans 996 00:44:35,536 --> 00:44:38,216 Speaker 8: will be proud of to where whether win or lose, 997 00:44:38,536 --> 00:44:40,256 Speaker 8: they will be proud of the product. 998 00:44:39,896 --> 00:44:40,696 Speaker 7: That was on the field. 999 00:44:41,136 --> 00:44:43,216 Speaker 8: But for us to have this season that we've had 1000 00:44:43,256 --> 00:44:47,536 Speaker 8: and win twelve regular season games, going to into Tama Bay, 1001 00:44:47,576 --> 00:44:50,936 Speaker 8: win a playoff game, then going to Detroit knock off 1002 00:44:50,936 --> 00:44:53,536 Speaker 8: the number one seed, and and got this game coming 1003 00:44:53,616 --> 00:44:58,256 Speaker 8: up against the Philadelphia Egles for the NFC championship. Man, 1004 00:44:58,296 --> 00:45:01,976 Speaker 8: that's that's beyond my wildest dream and probably a lot 1005 00:45:01,976 --> 00:45:04,696 Speaker 8: of a lot of people around here wildest dreams as well. 1006 00:45:04,856 --> 00:45:06,696 Speaker 4: I think about it Austin Eckler a lot now because 1007 00:45:06,696 --> 00:45:08,736 Speaker 4: he gets the most carries, but because when you have 1008 00:45:08,776 --> 00:45:12,976 Speaker 4: a rookie quarterback, leadership, veteran leadership is really important, coming 1009 00:45:12,976 --> 00:45:16,256 Speaker 4: from a lot of different places. Getting guys like an Eckler, 1010 00:45:16,416 --> 00:45:19,816 Speaker 4: how important are they whenever your quarterback is so young. 1011 00:45:19,856 --> 00:45:20,856 Speaker 7: It's extremely important. 1012 00:45:20,896 --> 00:45:23,616 Speaker 8: And you mentioned Austin Eckler, I think getting the veteran 1013 00:45:23,656 --> 00:45:27,456 Speaker 8: center and Tyler biattish is was key to match. You 1014 00:45:27,496 --> 00:45:29,856 Speaker 8: play a quarterback and it's a lot so much on 1015 00:45:29,896 --> 00:45:32,536 Speaker 8: your play, but if you can have a veteran, especially 1016 00:45:32,536 --> 00:45:35,936 Speaker 8: at that center position, who can help calm things down, 1017 00:45:36,016 --> 00:45:39,336 Speaker 8: get the protections right, be a calming presence for you. 1018 00:45:39,936 --> 00:45:43,856 Speaker 8: Tyler Bennett has been a really underrated signing. Having you 1019 00:45:44,256 --> 00:45:47,336 Speaker 8: mentioned Austin Eckler, bringing in a zach Ertz guy who 1020 00:45:47,376 --> 00:45:50,456 Speaker 8: played in Cliff Kingsbury offense, who's who's kind of an 1021 00:45:50,496 --> 00:45:53,656 Speaker 8: extension of Cliff on the field where he can help 1022 00:45:53,976 --> 00:45:57,256 Speaker 8: Jayden and different things. And having even even not just 1023 00:45:57,256 --> 00:45:59,736 Speaker 8: bringing in the veteran guys, but having a guy like 1024 00:45:59,856 --> 00:46:04,096 Speaker 8: Terry McLaurin, who's so such a great leader and one 1025 00:46:04,096 --> 00:46:06,896 Speaker 8: of the guys that a lot of people that his 1026 00:46:06,976 --> 00:46:10,216 Speaker 8: teammates respect so much. So having those the right veteran 1027 00:46:10,256 --> 00:46:13,376 Speaker 8: guys on the team. They were intentional about adding the 1028 00:46:13,456 --> 00:46:15,696 Speaker 8: guys that they did to this football team, especially the 1029 00:46:15,696 --> 00:46:16,896 Speaker 8: free agents that they brought in. 1030 00:46:17,696 --> 00:46:19,736 Speaker 6: Now, this is this game coming up. We got the 1031 00:46:19,736 --> 00:46:22,896 Speaker 6: Philadelphia Eagles. Do you hate the Philadelphia Eagles as much 1032 00:46:22,896 --> 00:46:26,456 Speaker 6: as any Washington You know you've got the rivalry, right, 1033 00:46:26,496 --> 00:46:30,136 Speaker 6: the history is there. But oh yeah, do you hate 1034 00:46:30,176 --> 00:46:32,976 Speaker 6: them or is it just like the media, the fans 1035 00:46:33,016 --> 00:46:33,656 Speaker 6: everything else. 1036 00:46:34,976 --> 00:46:36,376 Speaker 7: Hate is a strong word, but. 1037 00:46:38,536 --> 00:46:41,616 Speaker 8: Professional hatred, I would say, I mean it's a it's 1038 00:46:41,776 --> 00:46:46,496 Speaker 8: extremely strong. Dislike the in this NFC East, the rival 1039 00:46:46,576 --> 00:46:49,216 Speaker 8: with the with the Cowboys and and us that's probably 1040 00:46:49,256 --> 00:46:53,496 Speaker 8: the most storied because you know that it's a lot 1041 00:46:53,536 --> 00:46:56,176 Speaker 8: of the you know, great teams. They've won Super Bowls, 1042 00:46:56,176 --> 00:46:58,856 Speaker 8: We won super Bowl especially in the in the eighties 1043 00:46:58,856 --> 00:47:01,776 Speaker 8: and nineties when we were both ride high. The Giants 1044 00:47:01,816 --> 00:47:06,256 Speaker 8: as a rivalry, but the Philadelphia they're that rivalry hits 1045 00:47:06,296 --> 00:47:08,696 Speaker 8: a little different because you going there, you feel like 1046 00:47:08,736 --> 00:47:11,376 Speaker 8: you're in the in the in the in the in 1047 00:47:11,416 --> 00:47:14,256 Speaker 8: the enemy's territory. You can feel as soon as you 1048 00:47:14,296 --> 00:47:16,376 Speaker 8: come out of that stadium, come out of that tunnel. 1049 00:47:16,696 --> 00:47:19,335 Speaker 8: Their fans, let you know how they feel. The ride 1050 00:47:19,336 --> 00:47:21,576 Speaker 8: into the stadium on the bus, they're gonna throw some 1051 00:47:21,576 --> 00:47:24,176 Speaker 8: some things at your bus, some eggs and some other things, 1052 00:47:24,216 --> 00:47:27,136 Speaker 8: and they're gonna one finger salute you. And uh, it's 1053 00:47:27,176 --> 00:47:30,016 Speaker 8: gonna be it's gonna be an electric environment. And I 1054 00:47:30,056 --> 00:47:32,456 Speaker 8: can't wait to be a part of it. Just you know, 1055 00:47:32,496 --> 00:47:34,576 Speaker 8: I get to call a game. But man, I can't 1056 00:47:34,616 --> 00:47:37,976 Speaker 8: imagine what those players are gonna be feeling because this 1057 00:47:38,016 --> 00:47:42,856 Speaker 8: is a heated, heated rivalry, especially this season where you know, 1058 00:47:42,896 --> 00:47:44,616 Speaker 8: we beat them once, they beat us once, and this 1059 00:47:44,696 --> 00:47:46,896 Speaker 8: is the rubber match, and this is to represent the 1060 00:47:46,936 --> 00:47:47,976 Speaker 8: conference in the super Bowl. 1061 00:47:48,136 --> 00:47:49,416 Speaker 7: It doesn't get any bigger than this. 1062 00:47:49,856 --> 00:47:51,736 Speaker 5: What's the buzz like in the DMV right now. 1063 00:47:52,376 --> 00:47:54,976 Speaker 7: It's palpable, like you can feel it. 1064 00:47:55,376 --> 00:47:58,416 Speaker 8: We're out in Ashburn, which is don't know, thirty miles 1065 00:47:59,536 --> 00:48:02,496 Speaker 8: west I guess of the city, and you can feel 1066 00:48:02,536 --> 00:48:04,896 Speaker 8: it all the way out here, just the energy all 1067 00:48:05,136 --> 00:48:06,256 Speaker 8: you're all over the place. 1068 00:48:06,256 --> 00:48:08,376 Speaker 7: I mean, I like the fans. 1069 00:48:08,736 --> 00:48:11,736 Speaker 8: You see so many people wearing their Commander's gear, talking 1070 00:48:11,776 --> 00:48:15,976 Speaker 8: about the game, anticipating the game. Our fans have been 1071 00:48:16,096 --> 00:48:19,296 Speaker 8: great in traveling a I would say twenty five percent 1072 00:48:19,336 --> 00:48:22,816 Speaker 8: of the stadium in Tampa where our fans probably fifteen 1073 00:48:22,856 --> 00:48:25,936 Speaker 8: to twenty percent. Was the same in Detroit, and it's 1074 00:48:25,936 --> 00:48:27,616 Speaker 8: a lot of people going to be going up to 1075 00:48:27,616 --> 00:48:31,016 Speaker 8: Philadelphia to support us. But it is I mean, it's 1076 00:48:31,096 --> 00:48:33,096 Speaker 8: unlike any that I've experienced since I've been here in 1077 00:48:33,176 --> 00:48:34,296 Speaker 8: Washington for. 1078 00:48:34,336 --> 00:48:35,416 Speaker 2: A team like the Commanders. 1079 00:48:35,416 --> 00:48:37,216 Speaker 6: Bobby and I were talking about this a little bit too, 1080 00:48:37,256 --> 00:48:39,856 Speaker 6: that it's kind of like they're playing with house money. 1081 00:48:40,096 --> 00:48:43,136 Speaker 6: Do you think, as from a player's perspective, that kind 1082 00:48:43,136 --> 00:48:44,856 Speaker 6: of takes a little bit of the pressure off. You know, 1083 00:48:44,896 --> 00:48:47,736 Speaker 6: you're the underdog, nobody expects you, but we just have 1084 00:48:47,816 --> 00:48:49,176 Speaker 6: to go out and have something to prove. 1085 00:48:50,336 --> 00:48:53,576 Speaker 8: Well, here's the thing they don't view themselves as underdogs, 1086 00:48:54,216 --> 00:48:56,536 Speaker 8: and nack Quinn touched on it. I felt like that 1087 00:48:56,696 --> 00:49:00,256 Speaker 8: even going into the Detroit game, where they don't go 1088 00:49:00,296 --> 00:49:03,376 Speaker 8: into a game feeling like, hey, we're the underdog's house money, 1089 00:49:03,376 --> 00:49:05,936 Speaker 8: we got nothing to lose. They going to these games 1090 00:49:06,096 --> 00:49:09,256 Speaker 8: expecting to win. And that's a different type of approach. 1091 00:49:09,336 --> 00:49:12,496 Speaker 8: That's a different type of preparation where like, no, we 1092 00:49:12,496 --> 00:49:16,656 Speaker 8: we belong here. We're a damn good football team. You 1093 00:49:16,696 --> 00:49:18,736 Speaker 8: know this whole, you know, Vegas and whatever. They have 1094 00:49:18,816 --> 00:49:21,016 Speaker 8: to put out their points spreads and all that, but 1095 00:49:21,056 --> 00:49:23,816 Speaker 8: those points prayers, they won't they won't help you between 1096 00:49:23,856 --> 00:49:24,496 Speaker 8: those white lines. 1097 00:49:24,496 --> 00:49:25,576 Speaker 7: They won't take one snap. 1098 00:49:25,816 --> 00:49:28,256 Speaker 8: And these guys going there with a great deal of 1099 00:49:28,256 --> 00:49:31,616 Speaker 8: confidence and their confident because of their preparation, their confidence 1100 00:49:31,656 --> 00:49:34,536 Speaker 8: and confident because of how they prepare, their battle tested. 1101 00:49:34,936 --> 00:49:37,216 Speaker 8: They've had five or six games that have all come 1102 00:49:37,296 --> 00:49:41,016 Speaker 8: down to the final play. They're confident because of the 1103 00:49:41,056 --> 00:49:44,656 Speaker 8: way dan Quinn prepares these guys week in and week out, 1104 00:49:44,696 --> 00:49:46,496 Speaker 8: So they don't they don't feel like they're playing with 1105 00:49:46,536 --> 00:49:50,056 Speaker 8: house money. They feel like they're they're excellent football team 1106 00:49:50,256 --> 00:49:52,736 Speaker 8: and they deserve to be here playing for this moment, I. 1107 00:49:52,736 --> 00:49:55,016 Speaker 4: Was deep dive in London, Fletcher, because I know mid dive, 1108 00:49:55,096 --> 00:49:56,896 Speaker 4: I know shallow dive, but I was deep dive in 1109 00:49:56,936 --> 00:49:57,576 Speaker 4: London Fletcher. 1110 00:49:57,936 --> 00:50:00,136 Speaker 5: And you have three touchdowns? You keep any of those balls? 1111 00:50:00,536 --> 00:50:00,936 Speaker 7: I did? 1112 00:50:01,976 --> 00:50:05,936 Speaker 8: Yeah, they're they're at the house you get You definitely 1113 00:50:05,936 --> 00:50:07,216 Speaker 8: got to keep your touchdown ball. 1114 00:50:09,776 --> 00:50:12,136 Speaker 4: Can you remember it again or did somebody go get 1115 00:50:12,176 --> 00:50:13,176 Speaker 4: them for you afterwards? 1116 00:50:13,216 --> 00:50:13,256 Speaker 6: Like? 1117 00:50:13,296 --> 00:50:13,856 Speaker 2: Do you lock it? 1118 00:50:13,896 --> 00:50:15,936 Speaker 5: As soon as you score a touchdown, you hold on 1119 00:50:15,976 --> 00:50:16,416 Speaker 5: to that thing. 1120 00:50:16,696 --> 00:50:19,096 Speaker 8: Oh, defensive players, we're gonna always hold on to them. 1121 00:50:19,336 --> 00:50:22,056 Speaker 8: No offensive guys they can, they can forget to hold 1122 00:50:22,096 --> 00:50:25,256 Speaker 8: on to the football. I've seen guys score their first 1123 00:50:25,336 --> 00:50:27,855 Speaker 8: ever touchdown and throw the football and they wonder if 1124 00:50:28,096 --> 00:50:30,096 Speaker 8: their teammates has to go retreat that football. 1125 00:50:30,376 --> 00:50:32,216 Speaker 7: You don't have to worry about that. With a defensive 1126 00:50:32,256 --> 00:50:33,336 Speaker 7: players scored a touchdown. 1127 00:50:33,576 --> 00:50:35,576 Speaker 8: We will take that thing to the sideline with us, 1128 00:50:35,576 --> 00:50:37,496 Speaker 8: and we might even take it to the locker room 1129 00:50:37,536 --> 00:50:37,736 Speaker 8: with it. 1130 00:50:38,416 --> 00:50:39,936 Speaker 7: We will hold on to that football. 1131 00:50:40,776 --> 00:50:44,016 Speaker 6: Let it what's your keys to success against Philly? Philly 1132 00:50:44,056 --> 00:50:46,456 Speaker 6: obviously they can run the football. It all runs through 1133 00:50:46,496 --> 00:50:48,816 Speaker 6: Saquon Barkley. They've got a dominant defense. But what's the 1134 00:50:48,896 --> 00:50:52,176 Speaker 6: keys both offensively and defensively for Washington in this game 1135 00:50:52,216 --> 00:50:53,896 Speaker 6: if they're going to go out there and pick up 1136 00:50:53,936 --> 00:50:54,176 Speaker 6: a win. 1137 00:50:54,496 --> 00:50:56,696 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think you know, going into this ball game, 1138 00:50:56,856 --> 00:51:01,056 Speaker 8: from offenses standpoint, you gonna have to block jen Jalen Carter, 1139 00:51:01,456 --> 00:51:04,136 Speaker 8: figure out a way to get him, you know, blocked 1140 00:51:04,176 --> 00:51:06,776 Speaker 8: up and not let him disrupt the game because he's 1141 00:51:06,816 --> 00:51:10,336 Speaker 8: a He's a major difference maker for them being effective 1142 00:51:10,776 --> 00:51:13,696 Speaker 8: against the coverage that that Vic van Giel is gonna 1143 00:51:13,736 --> 00:51:16,856 Speaker 8: throw at you. He's gonna make it tough against the quarterbacks, 1144 00:51:17,136 --> 00:51:20,336 Speaker 8: and they don't have to, you know, bring eight men 1145 00:51:20,376 --> 00:51:22,576 Speaker 8: in the box to stop your run. Then they gonna 1146 00:51:22,576 --> 00:51:24,936 Speaker 8: sit back in that that quarters covered that two shell 1147 00:51:25,056 --> 00:51:27,536 Speaker 8: look and and be able to play coverage. But gotta 1148 00:51:27,576 --> 00:51:29,456 Speaker 8: be able to black Jalen Carter both in the run 1149 00:51:29,496 --> 00:51:31,576 Speaker 8: and against the run. In the pass game. Get that 1150 00:51:31,696 --> 00:51:34,176 Speaker 8: run game going and then let Jaalen be special. From 1151 00:51:34,176 --> 00:51:37,456 Speaker 8: a defense standpoint, stopping Sa Kwan and you're not gonna 1152 00:51:37,456 --> 00:51:41,496 Speaker 8: stop him, but slowing him down really limited the explosive plays. 1153 00:51:41,216 --> 00:51:41,936 Speaker 7: That he's gonna have. 1154 00:51:42,536 --> 00:51:44,896 Speaker 8: Being a gap sound, getting out of your getting off 1155 00:51:44,896 --> 00:51:47,096 Speaker 8: the blocks, playing on the other side of the lot 1156 00:51:47,136 --> 00:51:50,696 Speaker 8: of scrimmage and and when they decide to throw the football. 1157 00:51:50,736 --> 00:51:53,816 Speaker 8: I don't know what type of condition to shape Jalen 1158 00:51:53,976 --> 00:51:54,496 Speaker 8: Hurts is. 1159 00:51:54,496 --> 00:51:54,976 Speaker 7: Gonna be in. 1160 00:51:55,056 --> 00:51:56,896 Speaker 8: I know he has got a little banged up injury. 1161 00:51:57,056 --> 00:51:59,416 Speaker 8: But you're gonna have to be sticky in coverage. And 1162 00:51:59,696 --> 00:52:02,896 Speaker 8: they got two great wide receivers and you know we're gonna. 1163 00:52:02,616 --> 00:52:04,376 Speaker 7: Have to have to limit those guys as well. 1164 00:52:04,496 --> 00:52:06,656 Speaker 8: We can come out of here with the two or 1165 00:52:06,696 --> 00:52:09,696 Speaker 8: three turnovers and you know, do those things. I think 1166 00:52:09,696 --> 00:52:11,576 Speaker 8: we we come out of there victorious. 1167 00:52:11,856 --> 00:52:13,016 Speaker 5: One final question for you. 1168 00:52:13,136 --> 00:52:15,976 Speaker 4: Are some stadiums a little nicer when it comes to 1169 00:52:16,016 --> 00:52:19,256 Speaker 4: warmth when you're calling the game and and what's Philly like? 1170 00:52:19,376 --> 00:52:21,416 Speaker 5: Is this gonna be cold? Are you going to be cold? 1171 00:52:22,616 --> 00:52:25,456 Speaker 8: Some stadiums are definitely nicer when it comes to the Uh, 1172 00:52:26,136 --> 00:52:29,576 Speaker 8: the setup they have for you depends on, like I guess, 1173 00:52:29,616 --> 00:52:32,536 Speaker 8: the how it's set up, so to speak. I called 1174 00:52:32,576 --> 00:52:34,776 Speaker 8: we called a game in Philly obviously this year, but 1175 00:52:34,816 --> 00:52:38,576 Speaker 8: that was mid October November. I can't remember. It's been 1176 00:52:38,856 --> 00:52:42,056 Speaker 8: so long, and the weather wasn't terrible. I remember doing 1177 00:52:42,096 --> 00:52:45,856 Speaker 8: a night game there, uh two years ago. It was 1178 00:52:45,896 --> 00:52:48,056 Speaker 8: a little cooler, so I might I may instead of 1179 00:52:48,056 --> 00:52:50,496 Speaker 8: taking my jacket off, I'll have my jacket on and 1180 00:52:50,536 --> 00:52:55,296 Speaker 8: maybe a beanie. But some some stadiums, definitely, the friendly 1181 00:52:55,336 --> 00:52:58,376 Speaker 8: confines are a lot a lot nicer and and uh 1182 00:52:58,456 --> 00:53:00,776 Speaker 8: the setup is a lot better. But Philly Philly is. 1183 00:53:00,896 --> 00:53:03,336 Speaker 8: It's a decent view. But I can imagine it being 1184 00:53:03,336 --> 00:53:05,016 Speaker 8: a little bit cool cooler that day. 1185 00:53:05,136 --> 00:53:07,696 Speaker 5: It's hard to talk to you teeth chattering, and I've 1186 00:53:07,736 --> 00:53:09,416 Speaker 5: been there. That is tough. 1187 00:53:09,536 --> 00:53:12,296 Speaker 4: Definitely, Hey, we appreciate you coming on with us. We 1188 00:53:12,296 --> 00:53:14,896 Speaker 4: were listening to some of the calls from last week. Man, 1189 00:53:15,056 --> 00:53:17,456 Speaker 4: I love home team broadcast because you get to be 1190 00:53:17,536 --> 00:53:19,936 Speaker 4: the home team. And I'm sure they don't put any 1191 00:53:19,936 --> 00:53:22,416 Speaker 4: restrictions on you on not being like like you got 1192 00:53:22,416 --> 00:53:23,976 Speaker 4: to keep it, keep it down the middle, like you 1193 00:53:24,016 --> 00:53:24,896 Speaker 4: get to go you right. 1194 00:53:25,136 --> 00:53:29,456 Speaker 8: Oh no, they they they love to just be you. 1195 00:53:28,936 --> 00:53:30,416 Speaker 8: That's that's what they tell me. 1196 00:53:30,536 --> 00:53:30,936 Speaker 2: Just be me. 1197 00:53:31,016 --> 00:53:34,016 Speaker 8: And I love that that I can showcase my personality. 1198 00:53:34,056 --> 00:53:36,456 Speaker 8: And you mentioned with it being a home broadcast, you 1199 00:53:36,496 --> 00:53:37,856 Speaker 8: can show your your bias. 1200 00:53:37,856 --> 00:53:39,456 Speaker 7: I'm gonna be fair, I'm gonna call it, call it 1201 00:53:39,536 --> 00:53:40,096 Speaker 7: like I see it. 1202 00:53:40,096 --> 00:53:42,496 Speaker 8: But when great plays happened, which there have been a 1203 00:53:42,496 --> 00:53:44,976 Speaker 8: lot of great plays in this season. We're gonna be 1204 00:53:45,016 --> 00:53:47,696 Speaker 8: excited and I'm gonna, you know, express that and let 1205 00:53:47,776 --> 00:53:50,176 Speaker 8: the fans know exactly what I'm seeing and how I 1206 00:53:50,216 --> 00:53:52,256 Speaker 8: feel about those those plays that take place. 1207 00:53:52,536 --> 00:53:55,376 Speaker 4: We really appreciate you. Thank you so much for for 1208 00:53:55,416 --> 00:53:58,256 Speaker 4: the time. And what are the commands they say? What 1209 00:53:58,296 --> 00:54:00,616 Speaker 4: do the commanders say? What's like their thing? Go com 1210 00:54:00,936 --> 00:54:01,296 Speaker 4: people say? 1211 00:54:03,296 --> 00:54:04,376 Speaker 2: I like that? What is it? 1212 00:54:04,496 --> 00:54:06,056 Speaker 7: Anybody anytime anywhere? 1213 00:54:06,776 --> 00:54:08,896 Speaker 4: I'm not like cool enough to say that or strong 1214 00:54:09,016 --> 00:54:11,936 Speaker 4: enough or like, yeah, but you guys both could pull 1215 00:54:11,976 --> 00:54:12,296 Speaker 4: that off. 1216 00:54:12,576 --> 00:54:14,256 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know if I could. I mean, 1217 00:54:14,256 --> 00:54:15,656 Speaker 2: you used to hunting the woods by yourself? 1218 00:54:16,256 --> 00:54:19,176 Speaker 7: Wear any time? Yeah, yeah, I can't remember. Right now, 1219 00:54:19,216 --> 00:54:19,856 Speaker 7: I'm coming. 1220 00:54:19,696 --> 00:54:24,616 Speaker 8: Half sleep, yeah, defervation, all right, get his body anywhere anytime. 1221 00:54:24,896 --> 00:54:26,976 Speaker 2: I guess I'm sleep line body anywhere anytime. 1222 00:54:27,096 --> 00:54:27,456 Speaker 5: Thank you. 1223 00:54:28,016 --> 00:54:31,056 Speaker 4: We're rooting for you, guys, and hopefully you'll be in 1224 00:54:31,056 --> 00:54:32,136 Speaker 4: New Orleans in a couple of weeks. 1225 00:54:32,456 --> 00:54:33,976 Speaker 7: All right, begs, all right, let me see it. 1226 00:54:50,016 --> 00:54:52,496 Speaker 4: To think that he runs a sub four forty ran 1227 00:54:52,496 --> 00:54:54,696 Speaker 4: a sub four forty four, it's wild. 1228 00:54:55,096 --> 00:54:58,696 Speaker 6: I mean, because if you're a legit wide receiver, Yeah, 1229 00:54:58,736 --> 00:54:59,816 Speaker 6: a four four is legit. 1230 00:54:59,936 --> 00:55:00,176 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1231 00:55:00,216 --> 00:55:02,256 Speaker 6: Even guys that run a four or five, they're like, 1232 00:55:02,336 --> 00:55:06,456 Speaker 6: oh he's got size, that's fast. Yeah, but a four 1233 00:55:06,456 --> 00:55:09,256 Speaker 6: to three eight. And then listen to him say, I 1234 00:55:09,296 --> 00:55:10,816 Speaker 6: started playing football. 1235 00:55:10,816 --> 00:55:12,216 Speaker 5: His senior senior year. 1236 00:55:13,216 --> 00:55:17,456 Speaker 6: Wild wild, because there's so much that goes into As 1237 00:55:17,496 --> 00:55:21,256 Speaker 6: he was explaining, learning the game, understanding your role on 1238 00:55:21,296 --> 00:55:24,176 Speaker 6: the defensive side of the ball. What what a four 1239 00:55:24,216 --> 00:55:25,776 Speaker 6: to three defense is a three to four. You can 1240 00:55:25,816 --> 00:55:27,616 Speaker 6: get a general understanding in high school, but then all 1241 00:55:27,656 --> 00:55:29,936 Speaker 6: of a sudden you step up a level and go 1242 00:55:30,016 --> 00:55:33,136 Speaker 6: to Division three, and then you're right into the pros. 1243 00:55:33,296 --> 00:55:35,456 Speaker 2: It's a crazy story. 1244 00:55:36,416 --> 00:55:41,296 Speaker 4: And they say the best ability is availability and durability. 1245 00:55:41,456 --> 00:55:43,496 Speaker 4: And to play that many games in a row at 1246 00:55:43,536 --> 00:55:46,616 Speaker 4: such a high impact position, any position that many games 1247 00:55:46,656 --> 00:55:50,256 Speaker 4: in a row, but to play linebacker right that many. 1248 00:55:50,296 --> 00:55:52,936 Speaker 4: I don't think he ever missed a game. I know 1249 00:55:52,976 --> 00:55:54,616 Speaker 4: he had that streak of starts, I don't think he 1250 00:55:54,616 --> 00:55:57,856 Speaker 4: ever missed a game in his career. Pretty wild. I 1251 00:55:57,896 --> 00:56:01,376 Speaker 4: think about running the forty and I pulled the tape 1252 00:56:01,416 --> 00:56:03,616 Speaker 4: of mind. Yes, but I did mind a couple of 1253 00:56:03,696 --> 00:56:06,856 Speaker 4: years ago when you ran the forty, did you combine? 1254 00:56:07,376 --> 00:56:07,456 Speaker 2: No? 1255 00:56:07,536 --> 00:56:10,416 Speaker 6: I just went to I never I never started. So 1256 00:56:10,496 --> 00:56:12,176 Speaker 6: I went to the I went to our pro day 1257 00:56:12,176 --> 00:56:14,576 Speaker 6: and I'll go in the first day it's the bunny. 1258 00:56:14,896 --> 00:56:15,896 Speaker 2: I walk in the guys. 1259 00:56:16,056 --> 00:56:17,776 Speaker 6: I was like, yeah, I'm Matt Castlem, a senior, and 1260 00:56:17,816 --> 00:56:20,376 Speaker 6: he goes, yeah, I don't have you on my list. 1261 00:56:20,736 --> 00:56:23,456 Speaker 6: I was like, well, I'm trying out, all right, I'm 1262 00:56:23,456 --> 00:56:25,016 Speaker 6: trying out. They said it was an open tryout for 1263 00:56:25,016 --> 00:56:27,456 Speaker 6: the players. So he's like, well, they already started the 1264 00:56:27,456 --> 00:56:29,216 Speaker 6: Wonderlick test, so you can get in there. There's about 1265 00:56:29,256 --> 00:56:31,056 Speaker 6: fifteen minutes left. I don't know how long they've been 1266 00:56:31,096 --> 00:56:32,896 Speaker 6: taking it for. So I scrambled in there, did this, 1267 00:56:33,376 --> 00:56:36,536 Speaker 6: and so I go through and uh. And we got 1268 00:56:36,536 --> 00:56:39,296 Speaker 6: to the forty and so I was I trained my 1269 00:56:39,496 --> 00:56:41,016 Speaker 6: butt off for this, right and. 1270 00:56:40,976 --> 00:56:43,256 Speaker 2: I was like, oh man, I'm gonna run fast. Get 1271 00:56:43,256 --> 00:56:43,576 Speaker 2: out there. 1272 00:56:43,616 --> 00:56:45,976 Speaker 6: And I mean there are a ton of scouts there 1273 00:56:46,016 --> 00:56:48,776 Speaker 6: because we were loaded at the time with different prospects 1274 00:56:48,816 --> 00:56:51,336 Speaker 6: and everything. So get out there in the line with 1275 00:56:51,376 --> 00:56:54,696 Speaker 6: adrenaline's going. I put on my buddy's track shoes, thinking, 1276 00:56:54,736 --> 00:56:57,016 Speaker 6: oh yeah, cut off a few seconds. I think I 1277 00:56:57,136 --> 00:57:00,016 Speaker 6: ran like a four eight eight. I was so disappointed. 1278 00:57:00,056 --> 00:57:03,296 Speaker 6: I was just like, ah, maybe a four night. I 1279 00:57:03,296 --> 00:57:05,376 Speaker 6: have no idea, but it was not my best perform 1280 00:57:05,496 --> 00:57:07,216 Speaker 6: and so I must have got up, you know, popped 1281 00:57:07,256 --> 00:57:09,536 Speaker 6: up too early. They talked about the mechanics. I worked 1282 00:57:09,536 --> 00:57:12,776 Speaker 6: with like a track a track coach that was like, okay, 1283 00:57:12,776 --> 00:57:15,216 Speaker 6: you gonna stay out. Did for the first five yards 1284 00:57:15,216 --> 00:57:17,536 Speaker 6: and slowly I was like, maybe I'm just not that fast. 1285 00:57:17,656 --> 00:57:20,736 Speaker 5: Were you human timed or were you some mechanically timed. 1286 00:57:20,856 --> 00:57:22,976 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm gonna go with human because if I was 1287 00:57:22,976 --> 00:57:25,176 Speaker 6: mechanically it definitely would have dropped from there. 1288 00:57:25,616 --> 00:57:28,936 Speaker 2: But I crushed my agility drill three. Come, I did 1289 00:57:28,976 --> 00:57:29,256 Speaker 2: do that. 1290 00:57:29,296 --> 00:57:31,496 Speaker 5: I've heard the legend of your agility drill. 1291 00:57:31,976 --> 00:57:34,296 Speaker 6: That's really what what got me. Got me some play 1292 00:57:34,776 --> 00:57:35,816 Speaker 6: read what was my time? 1293 00:57:37,256 --> 00:57:38,696 Speaker 5: What You're at? 1294 00:57:38,776 --> 00:57:41,456 Speaker 4: University of South Carolina. In the practice facility, we ran 1295 00:57:41,576 --> 00:57:44,896 Speaker 4: with the running back and ran. I ran pretty good. 1296 00:57:44,936 --> 00:57:45,576 Speaker 4: It's pretty good. 1297 00:57:45,816 --> 00:57:48,376 Speaker 2: A four to eighty three? Did you train for this? 1298 00:57:49,096 --> 00:57:53,016 Speaker 2: I train every day, bro. That's really impressive. 1299 00:57:53,096 --> 00:57:55,656 Speaker 4: So I would think probably closer to four nine. No, 1300 00:57:55,816 --> 00:58:00,136 Speaker 4: I'm giving myself. He was probably a little fast, but 1301 00:58:00,256 --> 00:58:01,176 Speaker 4: we have it all on tape. 1302 00:58:01,176 --> 00:58:02,696 Speaker 2: We have we fully taped it. 1303 00:58:03,816 --> 00:58:05,016 Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel pretty good, but it was not like 1304 00:58:05,016 --> 00:58:06,816 Speaker 5: my third. Like I didn't nail it the first time. 1305 00:58:06,896 --> 00:58:10,096 Speaker 6: That's okay, you still ran a four eight, I will 1306 00:58:10,096 --> 00:58:12,176 Speaker 6: say four to nine. No, you're rounding down, don't you 1307 00:58:12,216 --> 00:58:15,096 Speaker 6: know decimals like with my kids all the time. 1308 00:58:15,136 --> 00:58:17,856 Speaker 2: You ran a four eight. That's really impressive. I felt 1309 00:58:17,856 --> 00:58:18,376 Speaker 2: pretty good. 1310 00:58:18,496 --> 00:58:20,936 Speaker 5: Also, I felt like my hamstrings were going to rip 1311 00:58:20,976 --> 00:58:24,096 Speaker 5: out of my legs because I was going. 1312 00:58:23,936 --> 00:58:25,176 Speaker 2: To it's worth it, it's worth it. 1313 00:58:25,256 --> 00:58:27,136 Speaker 5: We do have it on tape, and I actually want 1314 00:58:27,176 --> 00:58:30,216 Speaker 5: to see this. You don't. I don't look very good 1315 00:58:30,336 --> 00:58:30,656 Speaker 5: doing it. 1316 00:58:30,696 --> 00:58:31,856 Speaker 2: Nobody looks good running. 1317 00:58:32,056 --> 00:58:34,576 Speaker 6: I love the slow motion video sometimes when they show 1318 00:58:34,616 --> 00:58:36,816 Speaker 6: these guys at the combine, their faces are just contorted. 1319 00:58:36,816 --> 00:58:37,376 Speaker 2: And there's. 1320 00:58:38,816 --> 00:58:41,176 Speaker 5: Tom Cruise looks pretty good running like he's kind of 1321 00:58:41,536 --> 00:58:44,096 Speaker 5: nailed the movie running he. 1322 00:58:44,136 --> 00:58:46,816 Speaker 6: Has and he's just he's pretty good at everything. I mean, 1323 00:58:47,096 --> 00:58:50,416 Speaker 6: flies his own plane, does his own stunts. It's pretty 1324 00:58:50,456 --> 00:58:52,656 Speaker 6: remarkable what he's able to do. I would love to play. 1325 00:58:53,096 --> 00:58:56,736 Speaker 6: I mean, if I was any action figure, he'd be 1326 00:58:56,736 --> 00:59:00,256 Speaker 6: a pretty good one to be. The Mission Impossible movies too, 1327 00:59:00,576 --> 00:59:01,016 Speaker 6: love those. 1328 00:59:01,216 --> 00:59:02,816 Speaker 5: Was there ever a moment in your career because here 1329 00:59:02,816 --> 00:59:06,176 Speaker 5: you are star athlete, good looking dude, guy that. They 1330 00:59:06,176 --> 00:59:07,696 Speaker 5: were like, hey, want you do some acting when you 1331 00:59:07,696 --> 00:59:08,216 Speaker 5: finish here? 1332 00:59:08,976 --> 00:59:11,496 Speaker 6: No, not really. I just never got into it. Even 1333 00:59:11,536 --> 00:59:13,296 Speaker 6: though my mom's kind of in that business. She's a 1334 00:59:13,336 --> 00:59:15,696 Speaker 6: set decorator's been in that business for twenty five years. 1335 00:59:15,816 --> 00:59:19,416 Speaker 6: She probably is my biggest promoter of me going into Maddie. Maddie, 1336 00:59:19,416 --> 00:59:22,096 Speaker 6: you should go try You've got the phase for it, 1337 00:59:22,136 --> 00:59:25,456 Speaker 6: this that, And I was like, Eh, well no I haven't. 1338 00:59:25,496 --> 00:59:25,976 Speaker 2: I've done it. 1339 00:59:26,016 --> 00:59:31,016 Speaker 6: I did it one commercial with Danny McBride for case Swiss. 1340 00:59:31,136 --> 00:59:32,856 Speaker 6: That's about the extent of my acting. 1341 00:59:32,976 --> 00:59:34,856 Speaker 5: What was that commercial? Now that's a video. I got 1342 00:59:34,896 --> 00:59:36,736 Speaker 5: to say, I got videos we need to see. 1343 00:59:36,816 --> 00:59:41,376 Speaker 6: Now that is a video. It's not necessarily kid appropriate. 1344 00:59:41,616 --> 00:59:44,656 Speaker 6: And they called me and case Swiss said, we're going 1345 00:59:44,736 --> 00:59:45,936 Speaker 6: to do the Casewiss tubes. 1346 00:59:45,936 --> 00:59:47,416 Speaker 2: It's we're going to try to market this thing. 1347 00:59:48,176 --> 00:59:50,136 Speaker 6: Danny McBride, he's gonna come up and he played his 1348 00:59:50,256 --> 00:59:53,976 Speaker 6: character from East Bound and Down, so he was in 1349 00:59:54,216 --> 00:59:57,336 Speaker 6: full character. We did this this shoot and if you 1350 00:59:57,456 --> 00:59:59,376 Speaker 6: see it, you're going to understand what I'm saying when 1351 00:59:59,376 --> 01:00:03,136 Speaker 6: I say it's not kid appropriate because the stuff that 1352 01:00:03,176 --> 01:00:05,336 Speaker 6: comes out of his mouth and all the different visuals 1353 01:00:05,456 --> 01:00:09,656 Speaker 6: that he has from his office is absurd and really 1354 01:00:10,696 --> 01:00:12,136 Speaker 6: really out there in terms of humor. 1355 01:00:12,256 --> 01:00:16,416 Speaker 4: So we will put up as a video clip of both. 1356 01:00:18,096 --> 01:00:20,176 Speaker 5: I'll watch it after it, but we'll put it as part, 1357 01:00:20,416 --> 01:00:21,256 Speaker 5: you know, part of it is. 1358 01:00:21,296 --> 01:00:23,856 Speaker 4: And then we'll put me running my forty at South Carolina, 1359 01:00:23,856 --> 01:00:25,896 Speaker 4: but only the last one read I don't want to 1360 01:00:25,896 --> 01:00:29,016 Speaker 4: slow the slower ones, like, we have to. 1361 01:00:29,016 --> 01:00:30,176 Speaker 5: Definitely put our best foot. 1362 01:00:30,296 --> 01:00:33,056 Speaker 6: Absolutely, we only take the best time anyway at the combine, 1363 01:00:33,096 --> 01:00:34,816 Speaker 6: so you should do only the best one. 1364 01:00:36,216 --> 01:00:38,096 Speaker 2: I mean, how much slower were you just kind of 1365 01:00:38,096 --> 01:00:39,176 Speaker 2: building up? What? 1366 01:00:40,136 --> 01:00:42,216 Speaker 5: Yes, and that I was afraid I was going to 1367 01:00:42,256 --> 01:00:43,296 Speaker 5: tear my hamstrings. 1368 01:00:43,576 --> 01:00:45,136 Speaker 4: So I think the first one I ran like a 1369 01:00:45,336 --> 01:00:46,816 Speaker 4: five to two, and I was like, oh, I got 1370 01:00:46,896 --> 01:00:48,936 Speaker 4: I have more in the tank, right, Like I knew 1371 01:00:48,936 --> 01:00:51,336 Speaker 4: I had way more in the tank, but I'm not 1372 01:00:51,496 --> 01:00:55,416 Speaker 4: twenty five. And so the second one probably closer to five, 1373 01:00:55,976 --> 01:00:58,096 Speaker 4: and then I just thought, I screw it. I'm going 1374 01:00:58,136 --> 01:00:59,776 Speaker 4: as hard as I can and if I pull a 1375 01:00:59,816 --> 01:01:01,376 Speaker 4: hams then I just pull up. 1376 01:01:01,896 --> 01:01:04,496 Speaker 5: And I didn't pull up, and it's a pretty good time. 1377 01:01:04,656 --> 01:01:07,296 Speaker 6: I can't even imagine running a forty at this point, 1378 01:01:07,376 --> 01:01:09,856 Speaker 6: but I was in an adult softball league two years 1379 01:01:09,896 --> 01:01:12,976 Speaker 6: ago and I hit a weak grounder to third and 1380 01:01:13,016 --> 01:01:15,216 Speaker 6: I was like, I'm going to leg this out. Pulled 1381 01:01:15,216 --> 01:01:17,016 Speaker 6: my quad muscle. Never pulled a muscle in my life, 1382 01:01:17,016 --> 01:01:19,376 Speaker 6: pulled my quad muscle. That's when I started to feel old. 1383 01:01:19,656 --> 01:01:22,296 Speaker 6: I was like, what a loser. I was hobbling down 1384 01:01:22,336 --> 01:01:23,016 Speaker 6: the base path. 1385 01:01:23,496 --> 01:01:23,816 Speaker 2: Just go it? 1386 01:01:24,656 --> 01:01:26,096 Speaker 5: What did you leg it out? 1387 01:01:26,256 --> 01:01:29,256 Speaker 2: Or you say I got there? I got that. That's 1388 01:01:29,296 --> 01:01:30,096 Speaker 2: all that matters. That you know. 1389 01:01:30,136 --> 01:01:32,656 Speaker 6: I'm a maximum effort, tight guy. I'm gonna give it 1390 01:01:32,656 --> 01:01:34,096 Speaker 6: all laid all on the line for the team. 1391 01:01:34,176 --> 01:01:36,456 Speaker 5: The two things people know about you just from hearing 1392 01:01:36,816 --> 01:01:39,016 Speaker 5: from around town, just walking around town and the guy 1393 01:01:39,056 --> 01:01:41,376 Speaker 5: does a heck of an agility trow and he legged out. 1394 01:01:42,496 --> 01:01:46,176 Speaker 2: Those are my too promising things that I have going 1395 01:01:46,216 --> 01:01:47,496 Speaker 2: for me as an athlete. 1396 01:01:47,376 --> 01:01:49,976 Speaker 5: Going into this weekend. Pick a winner both sides. 1397 01:01:50,136 --> 01:01:52,416 Speaker 2: Oh gosh, this is this is fun. 1398 01:01:54,296 --> 01:01:56,256 Speaker 6: I do believe that Buffalo is going to go into 1399 01:01:56,296 --> 01:02:00,456 Speaker 6: Kansas City and win. I just I think that they've 1400 01:02:00,456 --> 01:02:03,696 Speaker 6: got the balance with the run game and James Cook defense. 1401 01:02:03,816 --> 01:02:07,056 Speaker 6: I really like their defense, and I just haven't seen 1402 01:02:07,656 --> 01:02:10,456 Speaker 6: the production. As I said before, that scares me. With 1403 01:02:10,536 --> 01:02:13,936 Speaker 6: this Kansas City offense. So I'm gonna go with Buffalo. 1404 01:02:14,056 --> 01:02:16,656 Speaker 6: I'm sorry, but it's hard. It's always hard for you 1405 01:02:16,696 --> 01:02:19,656 Speaker 6: to pick somebody other than Kansas City in these situations 1406 01:02:19,696 --> 01:02:22,536 Speaker 6: because they've proven it so many times that this is 1407 01:02:22,576 --> 01:02:24,576 Speaker 6: when they thrive and they're when they're at their best. 1408 01:02:24,976 --> 01:02:26,896 Speaker 6: But I think if there's every year for somebody to 1409 01:02:26,976 --> 01:02:29,096 Speaker 6: knock them off, I think Buffalo can do it, and 1410 01:02:29,136 --> 01:02:32,336 Speaker 6: I think they will. And then when you talk about 1411 01:02:32,896 --> 01:02:36,456 Speaker 6: Washington at Philly, I think Philly is going to win. 1412 01:02:36,696 --> 01:02:40,256 Speaker 6: I just think the physicality of that offensive line, offensive 1413 01:02:40,256 --> 01:02:44,656 Speaker 6: line Saquon Barkley, and I don't think the defense has 1414 01:02:44,696 --> 01:02:47,456 Speaker 6: talked about as much. That defense are a bunch of 1415 01:02:47,496 --> 01:02:50,296 Speaker 6: dogs out there. I mean, they're really really good defense, 1416 01:02:50,336 --> 01:02:53,776 Speaker 6: and it's going to take a maximum effort by Washington 1417 01:02:54,296 --> 01:02:56,296 Speaker 6: to beat them, particularly on the defensive side of the 1418 01:02:56,296 --> 01:02:58,176 Speaker 6: ball because the way in which they run the ball. 1419 01:02:58,816 --> 01:03:00,416 Speaker 6: The reason why they won last week was because of 1420 01:03:00,456 --> 01:03:03,616 Speaker 6: the five turnovers that Detroit had. When they run the 1421 01:03:03,616 --> 01:03:06,576 Speaker 6: ball and they're effective as they are in Philadelphia. One 1422 01:03:06,296 --> 01:03:09,216 Speaker 6: they keep the ball out of Jaden Daniels hands, but 1423 01:03:09,296 --> 01:03:11,936 Speaker 6: two they don't give you the same opportunities that Detroit 1424 01:03:12,016 --> 01:03:14,576 Speaker 6: gave Washington last week because they just don't throw the 1425 01:03:14,576 --> 01:03:15,776 Speaker 6: ball at such high volume. 1426 01:03:16,496 --> 01:03:18,776 Speaker 5: Wise Man once said to be the man, you got 1427 01:03:18,776 --> 01:03:20,016 Speaker 5: to beat the man. Woo. 1428 01:03:20,656 --> 01:03:24,896 Speaker 4: That wise man is Ric Flair, and until you beat him, 1429 01:03:25,336 --> 01:03:29,696 Speaker 4: he's the man. It's Patrick Mahomes, It's Kansas City. I 1430 01:03:29,696 --> 01:03:33,496 Speaker 4: don't see how they lose. I think they go out 1431 01:03:33,696 --> 01:03:37,856 Speaker 4: play eight man and win somehow magically Kansas City doesn't 1432 01:03:37,896 --> 01:03:40,976 Speaker 4: lose in Kansas City. So and then I think that 1433 01:03:41,176 --> 01:03:43,096 Speaker 4: as a shout out London, thanks for coming on. But 1434 01:03:43,176 --> 01:03:44,896 Speaker 4: I think the Eagles are I think we got a 1435 01:03:44,936 --> 01:03:47,296 Speaker 4: rematch yep. I think a couple of years ago. It's 1436 01:03:47,296 --> 01:03:49,696 Speaker 4: going to be awesome to conclude this. Have you seen 1437 01:03:49,736 --> 01:03:54,056 Speaker 4: the Chiefs of hollic documentary, No Wow good as a 1438 01:03:54,176 --> 01:04:00,456 Speaker 4: former Chiefs player who understands Chiefs kingdom. And also, I 1439 01:04:00,496 --> 01:04:02,736 Speaker 4: grew up in small towns and the Chiefs are a 1440 01:04:02,776 --> 01:04:06,296 Speaker 4: small market team, right, so Buffalo's small market team and 1441 01:04:06,296 --> 01:04:10,056 Speaker 4: the passion in these small market areas it's massive because 1442 01:04:10,056 --> 01:04:12,776 Speaker 4: it's really all they have as far as like. 1443 01:04:12,736 --> 01:04:16,136 Speaker 5: Athletic teams like Kansas City. They don't have a basketball team. 1444 01:04:16,176 --> 01:04:18,896 Speaker 4: They have a baseball team, but they're one of these, again, 1445 01:04:20,336 --> 01:04:23,576 Speaker 4: least funded baseball teams in the majors. They're spending no money, 1446 01:04:23,576 --> 01:04:27,936 Speaker 4: they're small, zero money. So Chiefs Kingdom there's a guy 1447 01:04:27,976 --> 01:04:31,056 Speaker 4: named chiefs Aholik who dressed in full wolf costume. And 1448 01:04:31,616 --> 01:04:33,536 Speaker 4: I don't know if he was there when you were there. 1449 01:04:33,656 --> 01:04:35,656 Speaker 4: I'm not sure how long he's been, this guy, but 1450 01:04:35,696 --> 01:04:38,216 Speaker 4: it's the story about him. Robin Banks, Oh, I remember 1451 01:04:38,216 --> 01:04:40,376 Speaker 4: reading this, yes, and that's all I remember too. Was 1452 01:04:40,376 --> 01:04:42,456 Speaker 4: the guy that would go to away games and rob 1453 01:04:42,496 --> 01:04:44,176 Speaker 4: Banks on the way to away games so he'd get 1454 01:04:44,616 --> 01:04:45,576 Speaker 4: pay for his trips. 1455 01:04:46,496 --> 01:04:47,536 Speaker 2: He's got beer, buddy. 1456 01:04:48,216 --> 01:04:50,256 Speaker 5: It's way more than that, is It so good? 1457 01:04:50,416 --> 01:04:52,696 Speaker 2: It's so good. And it took a long time for 1458 01:04:52,736 --> 01:04:53,736 Speaker 2: them to catch him too, right. 1459 01:04:54,056 --> 01:04:55,216 Speaker 5: I don't even want to spoil it. 1460 01:04:55,376 --> 01:04:57,016 Speaker 2: Oh boy, I mean I can't wait. 1461 01:04:56,936 --> 01:04:57,816 Speaker 5: To get my wife. 1462 01:04:57,856 --> 01:04:59,696 Speaker 4: If my wife was like what I like it, I 1463 01:04:59,696 --> 01:05:02,136 Speaker 4: would say for you, For my wife, I would say 1464 01:05:02,136 --> 01:05:03,656 Speaker 4: I would give it three and a half out of five. 1465 01:05:04,016 --> 01:05:06,536 Speaker 4: For my friends, I would say four and a half. Really, 1466 01:05:06,616 --> 01:05:09,896 Speaker 4: it's a little long, because it's almost two hours. 1467 01:05:09,976 --> 01:05:11,736 Speaker 5: I had no idea some of the stuff that was happening. 1468 01:05:11,976 --> 01:05:13,736 Speaker 5: It's it is crazy. 1469 01:05:13,856 --> 01:05:14,536 Speaker 2: Yes, I cannot. 1470 01:05:14,576 --> 01:05:16,496 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's on Amazon. It's called Chiefs Ofholly. 1471 01:05:17,376 --> 01:05:19,776 Speaker 4: What team if they said, okay, you got to put 1472 01:05:19,776 --> 01:05:21,816 Speaker 4: a team on your headstone, what team would it be? 1473 01:05:22,416 --> 01:05:22,896 Speaker 2: Oh? Boy? 1474 01:05:25,296 --> 01:05:28,416 Speaker 6: I've always had a lot of loyalty to the Patriots 1475 01:05:28,816 --> 01:05:31,176 Speaker 6: because they gave me that opportunity when I don't think 1476 01:05:31,216 --> 01:05:34,296 Speaker 6: anybody else would have. Everybody's like, hey, we'd love to 1477 01:05:34,296 --> 01:05:36,056 Speaker 6: bring in as a free agent, this, that and the other. 1478 01:05:36,576 --> 01:05:39,496 Speaker 2: And then to get that phone call and. 1479 01:05:39,416 --> 01:05:42,896 Speaker 6: Say, we're going to take you because we're going to 1480 01:05:42,936 --> 01:05:44,736 Speaker 6: give you this opportunity, but we're going to use our 1481 01:05:44,776 --> 01:05:47,376 Speaker 6: last draft pick on somebody that never started a game 1482 01:05:47,936 --> 01:05:50,376 Speaker 6: and saw something in me that maybe didn't see in myself. 1483 01:05:50,896 --> 01:05:53,376 Speaker 2: And then to develop me the way in. 1484 01:05:53,296 --> 01:05:55,296 Speaker 6: Which they did and allow me to learn from a 1485 01:05:55,336 --> 01:05:58,056 Speaker 6: guy like Tom Brady. And then when all the stuff 1486 01:05:58,096 --> 01:06:00,656 Speaker 6: went down in two thousand and eight and Tom goes 1487 01:06:00,696 --> 01:06:03,216 Speaker 6: down the first game, we went kind of up and 1488 01:06:03,256 --> 01:06:05,976 Speaker 6: down early in the season when lost when law and 1489 01:06:06,056 --> 01:06:09,216 Speaker 6: to stick with me and just allow me to write 1490 01:06:09,256 --> 01:06:10,896 Speaker 6: it out and grow throughout the season not only as 1491 01:06:10,936 --> 01:06:13,696 Speaker 6: a leader but as a player, and we end up 1492 01:06:14,096 --> 01:06:17,536 Speaker 6: having success, And that really catapulted me and extended my 1493 01:06:17,576 --> 01:06:19,776 Speaker 6: career because look, I was that was the last year 1494 01:06:19,776 --> 01:06:22,616 Speaker 6: of my rookie contract. If I don't play that year, 1495 01:06:22,616 --> 01:06:24,056 Speaker 6: I don't know if I'm still on a team or 1496 01:06:24,096 --> 01:06:27,136 Speaker 6: we're even sitting here talking, right. And So the loyalty 1497 01:06:27,136 --> 01:06:31,416 Speaker 6: to Bill Belichick, the Craft family, to just them being 1498 01:06:32,136 --> 01:06:36,016 Speaker 6: the organization that they were and have been and allowing 1499 01:06:36,056 --> 01:06:38,136 Speaker 6: me to come in there and give me my opportunity. 1500 01:06:38,176 --> 01:06:41,976 Speaker 2: I've always had great loyalty to that. So Patriots Patriots? 1501 01:06:42,536 --> 01:06:46,016 Speaker 2: Should I have just said Patriots and I'm ready. So 1502 01:06:46,656 --> 01:06:47,696 Speaker 2: you're going with Patriots? 1503 01:06:49,016 --> 01:06:51,736 Speaker 4: No, I just I'm curious as to where your loyalty 1504 01:06:52,096 --> 01:06:55,576 Speaker 4: and you can have multi loyals if that's even a term. 1505 01:06:55,936 --> 01:06:58,376 Speaker 5: But that answer makes a lot of sense. 1506 01:06:58,736 --> 01:07:01,696 Speaker 6: Okay, So if you were to give same thing for 1507 01:07:01,776 --> 01:07:07,216 Speaker 6: you the biggest influence in your career to like get 1508 01:07:07,256 --> 01:07:10,896 Speaker 6: to where you are early on or throughout that, you'd 1509 01:07:10,896 --> 01:07:14,776 Speaker 6: say you would You'd say I'd die for this person, 1510 01:07:14,896 --> 01:07:17,976 Speaker 6: or I would give whatever I need to give to 1511 01:07:18,056 --> 01:07:21,536 Speaker 6: pay back what they offered me or advice, whatever it 1512 01:07:21,616 --> 01:07:24,536 Speaker 6: might be. It's probably a really difficult question to answer 1513 01:07:24,656 --> 01:07:26,736 Speaker 6: considering all the people you've met throughout your career. But 1514 01:07:26,816 --> 01:07:29,656 Speaker 6: somebody that's had such an impact on you. It's somebody 1515 01:07:29,656 --> 01:07:30,336 Speaker 6: I've never met. 1516 01:07:30,376 --> 01:07:33,376 Speaker 5: I never had a mentor, and I never really had 1517 01:07:33,376 --> 01:07:35,336 Speaker 5: anybody go I believe in you. 1518 01:07:35,696 --> 01:07:38,256 Speaker 4: I'm going to pay you a bunch of money. It 1519 01:07:38,336 --> 01:07:40,456 Speaker 4: was more like, okay, prove it, wise guy. 1520 01:07:41,056 --> 01:07:41,736 Speaker 2: He little guber. 1521 01:07:42,736 --> 01:07:46,456 Speaker 5: But I would say David Letterman, never met. 1522 01:07:46,376 --> 01:07:50,416 Speaker 4: Him, is my hero because he was an odd I 1523 01:07:50,456 --> 01:07:53,976 Speaker 4: could see something that resembled me, and that he was 1524 01:07:53,976 --> 01:08:01,256 Speaker 4: an oddly looking guy for television, irreverent and was from 1525 01:08:02,816 --> 01:08:05,336 Speaker 4: Middle America that was from the South, but he wasn't 1526 01:08:05,456 --> 01:08:07,696 Speaker 4: from like New York or LA, and he wasn't slick. 1527 01:08:08,496 --> 01:08:10,976 Speaker 4: And I just thought because I would have watched David Letterman, 1528 01:08:11,056 --> 01:08:13,256 Speaker 4: I was like eight guy. I never had a bedroom 1529 01:08:13,296 --> 01:08:15,216 Speaker 4: growing up, so I slept on couch in my whole life, 1530 01:08:15,336 --> 01:08:17,456 Speaker 4: and so I would watch TV all night, and so 1531 01:08:17,576 --> 01:08:19,095 Speaker 4: I would watch that show and not even get the 1532 01:08:19,176 --> 01:08:22,736 Speaker 4: jokes and go like, that's the guy that is telling 1533 01:08:22,776 --> 01:08:23,816 Speaker 4: me that I can do this. 1534 01:08:24,456 --> 01:08:26,216 Speaker 5: So I never got drafted by Letterman. 1535 01:08:25,936 --> 01:08:26,856 Speaker 2: Which was really cool. It'd be cool. 1536 01:08:26,856 --> 01:08:28,136 Speaker 5: We've been like we're taking the fifth round. 1537 01:08:28,176 --> 01:08:33,175 Speaker 4: I'm like, of what, But uh, Letterman is that guy 1538 01:08:33,416 --> 01:08:36,576 Speaker 4: who if it's put someone's face. 1539 01:08:36,936 --> 01:08:38,776 Speaker 5: I'd just I'd have him sketch out a letterman on 1540 01:08:38,816 --> 01:08:40,656 Speaker 5: my on my headstone, little yeah. 1541 01:08:40,576 --> 01:08:41,416 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I love that. 1542 01:08:41,496 --> 01:08:44,536 Speaker 5: One day. Although he's getting old, but you're. 1543 01:08:44,456 --> 01:08:45,976 Speaker 2: Gonna have to do this quick, yeah, because he is 1544 01:08:46,016 --> 01:08:48,336 Speaker 2: getting a little bit older. But it's all we all are. 1545 01:08:48,656 --> 01:08:49,936 Speaker 2: We all are day by day. 1546 01:08:49,776 --> 01:08:52,536 Speaker 4: Blink of and I that's it. Thank you guys. Uh 1547 01:08:52,616 --> 01:08:55,295 Speaker 4: next week another episode. These episodes come out on Wednesday. 1548 01:08:55,416 --> 01:08:57,216 Speaker 4: We actually are a little late on this one because 1549 01:08:57,336 --> 01:08:59,536 Speaker 4: Matt went to the National Championship game, which. 1550 01:09:00,056 --> 01:09:02,176 Speaker 5: Ended up being kind of exciting at the end. 1551 01:09:02,496 --> 01:09:05,016 Speaker 6: It did it did? I mean, I'm not gonna lie 1552 01:09:05,416 --> 01:09:08,296 Speaker 6: thirty one seven. Midway through the third I was like, boys, 1553 01:09:08,776 --> 01:09:11,536 Speaker 6: get your coach ready because if they score again, we 1554 01:09:11,656 --> 01:09:14,776 Speaker 6: might be Yeah, we're gonna be driving. Look, I'm a 1555 01:09:14,816 --> 01:09:17,776 Speaker 6: big fan, but my loyalty Look, I was a Trojan, 1556 01:09:18,336 --> 01:09:20,336 Speaker 6: right and so my loyalties weren't to either one of 1557 01:09:20,376 --> 01:09:22,296 Speaker 6: these schools. But at the same time, when it gets 1558 01:09:22,456 --> 01:09:24,616 Speaker 6: out of hand like that, it's kind of like it's 1559 01:09:24,896 --> 01:09:25,776 Speaker 6: difficult to watch. 1560 01:09:26,176 --> 01:09:29,456 Speaker 2: But I'll tell you what the old faithful for Notre Dame. 1561 01:09:29,736 --> 01:09:31,016 Speaker 2: You know, they came back. 1562 01:09:31,056 --> 01:09:33,256 Speaker 6: They put a score on the board, and then they 1563 01:09:33,296 --> 01:09:35,776 Speaker 6: got to stop. They go down drive and then that 1564 01:09:35,856 --> 01:09:37,736 Speaker 6: they missed that field goal, and I was just like, ah, 1565 01:09:38,136 --> 01:09:40,576 Speaker 6: could you hear it hit in the same Oh, you 1566 01:09:40,576 --> 01:09:43,376 Speaker 6: can hear one percent and then it ricochets backwards, you 1567 01:09:43,376 --> 01:09:44,336 Speaker 6: know sometimes they like rick. 1568 01:09:44,936 --> 01:09:47,216 Speaker 2: I was just like, oh, my gosh, that is not good. 1569 01:09:47,336 --> 01:09:49,656 Speaker 6: I just at that point I didn't understand why don't 1570 01:09:49,656 --> 01:09:51,856 Speaker 6: we just take another shot at the enz like you're 1571 01:09:51,896 --> 01:09:55,256 Speaker 6: still to score game. And then they had another great 1572 01:09:55,296 --> 01:09:57,216 Speaker 6: drive to hit the big play down the field. 1573 01:09:57,016 --> 01:09:58,656 Speaker 5: I mean the turnover though, You're like, hey, that feel 1574 01:09:58,696 --> 01:10:00,216 Speaker 5: go that it went in and it. 1575 01:10:00,216 --> 01:10:03,376 Speaker 4: Would have actually worked, right. Uh, yeah, that's fine, that's exciting. 1576 01:10:03,616 --> 01:10:05,616 Speaker 6: I saw it with your boys, Yes, the boys, And 1577 01:10:05,856 --> 01:10:07,896 Speaker 6: I mean, I know, growing up, I went to like 1578 01:10:08,136 --> 01:10:12,176 Speaker 6: one professional football game. I went to one Notre Dame 1579 01:10:12,496 --> 01:10:15,256 Speaker 6: SC game with my grandfather, but we didn't really go 1580 01:10:15,336 --> 01:10:18,936 Speaker 6: to a lot of sporting events, but I vividly remember those. 1581 01:10:19,416 --> 01:10:21,456 Speaker 6: It was like one of those special moments that you 1582 01:10:21,536 --> 01:10:23,736 Speaker 6: go and you're like, gosh, it's so cool be in 1583 01:10:23,776 --> 01:10:26,136 Speaker 6: a stadium, be in the environment, feel the energy. And 1584 01:10:26,176 --> 01:10:28,016 Speaker 6: so I was like, it's in Atlanta, it's not far 1585 01:10:28,056 --> 01:10:31,496 Speaker 6: from us. Drove up on Monday, went and got set 1586 01:10:31,576 --> 01:10:33,616 Speaker 6: up at the hotel and took the boys there and 1587 01:10:33,736 --> 01:10:35,336 Speaker 6: they enjoyed every minute of it. 1588 01:10:35,416 --> 01:10:40,055 Speaker 4: Man Yeah, producer Kevin O'Connell, red Yarberry over there running 1589 01:10:40,056 --> 01:10:40,496 Speaker 4: the video. 1590 01:10:40,736 --> 01:10:41,616 Speaker 2: He's Matt Castle. 1591 01:10:41,656 --> 01:10:42,416 Speaker 5: I'm Bobby Bones. 1592 01:10:42,456 --> 01:10:44,616 Speaker 2: We'll see you next week. We have had lots to. 1593 01:10:44,576 --> 01:10:53,776 Speaker 1: Say by everybody, lots to say with Bobby Bones and 1594 01:10:53,816 --> 01:10:57,776 Speaker 1: Matt Castle is a production of the NFL and iHeart Podcasts. 1595 01:10:57,896 --> 01:11:02,136 Speaker 1: For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 1596 01:11:02,176 --> 01:11:03,536 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts.