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Speaker 1: Late Kick Extra podcast, Thursday July fifteenth, Year of Our Lord,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. I cannot believe how loaded the mailbag is.

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Speaker 1: Our numbers, as I have told you, are through the roof,

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Speaker 1: will now the mail back volumes through the roof too.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at our sheet in front of me. To

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Speaker 1: be honest with you, I have no clue how we're

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do the same format I did the other day,

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Speaker 1: which I got good feedback on, and that is dive

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Speaker 1: right into a question and then mix up the housekeeping

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Speaker 1: notes throughout. So Gage is going to start us off today.

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Speaker 1: He says, how would you feel about getting rid of

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Speaker 1: preseason rankings? Wait until say week six or seven or eight,

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Speaker 1: and then rank the teams based on what they've done

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Speaker 1: to that point with this negate, overrated wins, improve, mid

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Speaker 1: we already do that. You may say, that's not true.

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Speaker 1: I see preseason ranking all over the place. They don't

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Speaker 1: what I mean by that is our postseason formula is

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Speaker 1: it very much mattered what preseason rankings were. Now it's

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Speaker 1: the playoff committee now. If you want to argue with me, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but all the preseason and early season narratives and talking

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Speaker 1: What is the official body out there that ranks college football?

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Speaker 1: Are we talking about the AP? Because we got a

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Speaker 1: If you highly value then you just check out every

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Speaker 1: I mean, for those of you who don't care about

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Speaker 1: the magazines. It's very good for college football. Buy all

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Speaker 1: of them. I end up, well, we get all of

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Speaker 1: them shipped to us, but previously I used to buy

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Speaker 1: all of them. And then you decide how much you

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Speaker 1: want to invest in what you're reading there. Do you

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Speaker 1: use it as a resource. Do you just blindly buy

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Speaker 1: everything that's written there. At the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: does it matter? The games are going to be played anyway,

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Speaker 1: So it's entertainment if nothing else. But also I would

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Speaker 1: encourage you check out the digital assets, cause a lot

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Speaker 1: of those are packed with information. And since they released digitally,

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Speaker 1: they can wait until the last minute, which means they

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Speaker 1: have all the right transfers, all the right portal updates,

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Speaker 1: all the right just roster information in general, any late

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Speaker 1: staff moves, so those are very up to date. I

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Speaker 1: would get as much information in the preseason as you can,

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Speaker 1: and then of course do your own homework. I'll tell you.

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Speaker 1: On my end. With Late Kick, we do what are

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Speaker 1: called our grand season previews, and we hit a ton

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Speaker 1: of teams and I'll do those throughout August essentially, and

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Speaker 1: those are packed. I mean, those are videos that will

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Speaker 1: also be available in audio form, but those are very,

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Speaker 1: very packed with information. I go a lot of different angles.

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Speaker 1: Like if I'm doing let's say the Tennessee Grand season

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Speaker 1: preview today, I do about four or five different kind

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Speaker 1: of features that are unique to Late Kick. The way.

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Speaker 1: We've slowly compiled our methodology over the years, so those

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Speaker 1: will be coming up. So yeah, check everything out. But

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Speaker 1: last thing I'll say is make sure when December comes

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Speaker 1: you flip back through those pages. That's how you find

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Speaker 1: out who's credible. And don't just go to who nailed

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Speaker 1: the right Bowl predictions, but check out how someone felt

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Speaker 1: about a team and then juxtaposed it to how that

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Speaker 1: team and that season ended up playing out. Because you

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Speaker 1: could be absolutely right about a team and they get

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Speaker 1: derailed due to end and of course your prediction for

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Speaker 1: their record goes wrong. Well that doesn't mean you were wrong.

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Speaker 1: It just means several of the factors outside anyone's ability

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Speaker 1: to predict happened. So don't always go off the prediction,

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Speaker 1: just the raw prediction. Was it right or wrong? Check

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Speaker 1: out what the overall theme and feel for the teams were.

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Speaker 1: Was the information on point? That's what I like, and

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Speaker 1: that's what I'm looking at. Jake is up next. I'm

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Speaker 1: doing some season simulations for all one hundred and thirty

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Speaker 1: FBS teams to prepare for the season. Currently, I just

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Speaker 1: give three points to every home team since that is

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Speaker 1: traditionally what is used for home field advantage. But I've

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Speaker 1: been thinking about how there might be an added advantage

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Speaker 1: this year for home teams, so I'm going to do

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Speaker 1: a separate simulation where each home team has plus four

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Speaker 1: two questions, One is that logical? And two would you

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Speaker 1: be interested in the results? Well, yes, Jake, I'd be

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Speaker 1: interested in the results. So you can DM me those

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Speaker 1: or email me those at late kick Josh on Twitter

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Speaker 1: and Instagram. I forgot to tell you this the last week.

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Speaker 1: This is how you get in touch with me. Please

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Speaker 1: follow me and how you can submit a question at

483
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Speaker 1: late kick Josh Instagram and Twitter, and you can also

484
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Speaker 1: email me Josh paid seven zero six at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, Jake, hit me with that. And also, I

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Speaker 1: strongly believe home field advantage will be undervalued early in

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Speaker 1: the season. It will not be normal. It may fade

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Speaker 1: back into normal in the back half of the season,

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Speaker 1: but home field advantage will disproportionately affect games early in

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Speaker 1: the season. I have no doubt about that. You're going

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Speaker 1: to have, in some cases teams with thirty to forty

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Speaker 1: percent of their roster having never played in a full

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Speaker 1: road stadium environment. Think about North Carolina first week of

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Speaker 1: the season going on the road on a Friday night

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Speaker 1: to Blacksburg, Virginia Lane Stadium packed for the first time

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Speaker 1: in two years against Virginia Tech. That's a game they're

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Speaker 1: going to be a favored to whim. That's a game

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Speaker 1: everyone's going to expect them to win. And it's a

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Speaker 1: game because of environment alone, independent of what Virginia Tech

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Speaker 1: team shows up, it's gonna be very difficult to go

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Speaker 1: in there and win. So I absolutely agree with that approach,

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Speaker 1: but you got to calibrate it. So I never believe

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Speaker 1: and go and blanket plus three in the NFL. I

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Speaker 1: do in college my own system and who I partner

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Speaker 1: with when we do Raminudle express. Oh, there's those words.

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Speaker 1: When we do our own game simulations, we have a

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Speaker 1: unique proprietary home field baked in for every environment in

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Speaker 1: every situation, so not even every stadium receives the same

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Speaker 1: home field advantage number for every game across the season.

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Speaker 1: LSU if they're playing Troy at two o'clock in the

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Speaker 1: afternoon versus Alabama at night, I'm giving them a different

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Speaker 1: home field advantage baked into the line. That's what I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about. So I would really dive deep on that,

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Speaker 1: and I do it on a week by week basis,

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Speaker 1: but there will be no research that comes out in

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Speaker 1: time to find out if you're right or wrong in

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Speaker 1: real time. It'll be too anecdotal in nature. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: have to have good instinct on that. Otherwise I would

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Speaker 1: leave it alone, or for the sake of simplicity, I

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Speaker 1: would just do a simple plus three or plus three

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Speaker 1: and a half or plus three and three quarter if

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Speaker 1: you want to. I've realized I've gotten like seven questions

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Speaker 1: deep and I have not done any house keeping. So

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Speaker 1: as usual, here's just the requisite thank you. Because our numbers,

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Speaker 1: even from last podcast have gone up again. So the

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Speaker 1: numbers are exploding, and I really start to feel that

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Speaker 1: if I can stay out of prison, we're going to

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Speaker 1: explode the show. This fault that's really the only key.

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Speaker 1: Stay healthy, stay out of prison, not necessarily in that order,

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Speaker 1: and we can blow the show up this fall. So

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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, you guys heard me put

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Speaker 1: out a little call. It was on the live version

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Speaker 1: Late Kick Live, and I said, if anyone out there

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Speaker 1: is in a position with a regional or national type

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Speaker 1: of company where you want to advertise, I'm not guaranteeing

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Speaker 1: we're even going to do it because we don't have

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Speaker 1: to do it. But if there are some brands out

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Speaker 1: there I'd like to partner with and we can make

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Speaker 1: the price points work, hit me up, we'll see what

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Speaker 1: we can work out. Well, you guys did immediately, I

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Speaker 1: mean immediately, and we got some big names that we're

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Speaker 1: talking to right now that I would be very proud

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Speaker 1: to partner with. But I'll also tell you this, if

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Speaker 1: you're in the finance world, this will make sense. If not,

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Speaker 1: it'll be over in two seconds. Q three is upon

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Speaker 1: ad spending for quarter three Q four We got that

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Speaker 1: on lock. But if anyone has some Q three discretionary

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Speaker 1: ad spending, they can still do and we can make

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Speaker 1: it work. You know, we're looking well, you know what

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Speaker 1: we're looking for you. We'll just decide if it's a

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Speaker 1: good partnership. There are brands I'll partner with. There are

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Speaker 1: ones I won't partner with. I just I have to

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Speaker 1: sign off on it. It's got to be something I

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Speaker 1: believe in. I'm not going to endorse anything I don't

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Speaker 1: believe in. There are several things as a result, I

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Speaker 1: would not endorse. If you paid me a trillion dollars,

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Speaker 1: I would not put it on the show. But if

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Speaker 1: it's the right thing for our audience and it's something

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Speaker 1: I believe in, will make it happen. But I'm saying

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Speaker 1: all that to say this hurry because we don't have

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Speaker 1: a lot of time, and we don't have a lot

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Speaker 1: of shelf life and inventory left. It's gone a little

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Speaker 1: bit smoother than I thought it would. I was always

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Speaker 1: told the sales thing's supposed to be hard, and it

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Speaker 1: turns out it's not. If you have a product. Let's

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Speaker 1: say that, if you have a good product, it's not.

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Speaker 1: So Fortunately, you guys have built this show into such

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Speaker 1: a good product that also in our audience are people

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Speaker 1: in positions to buy their way into the product. And

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Speaker 1: it's just one big, happy family, and it helps us

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Speaker 1: keep the show free, so everyone wins. Did you notice

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Speaker 1: it's not like middle school? There are no losers in

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Speaker 1: this equation. It's a wonderful, wonderful time. And I don't

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Speaker 1: even think we've started to sing yet because we have

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Speaker 1: not had a full season here that was COVID free,

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Speaker 1: and that was election free. So we got a huge

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Speaker 1: platform this fall and we're going to blow it up,

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Speaker 1: and I don't doubt that one bit. I just want

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Speaker 1: to maximize the potential, squeeze every ounce of juice out,

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Speaker 1: and we're in the process of doing that. And we

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Speaker 1: got more announcements coming up that I can't tell you

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Speaker 1: quite yet. But if you've been paying attention to my Instagram,

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Speaker 1: especially the story, you probably know what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 1: So stay tuned dot dot dot and as usual, let's

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Speaker 1: make sure we get as many people on board as possible.

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Speaker 1: All right, back to the questions, Kyle. Finally, a question

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Speaker 1: on Iowa State. Kyle said, coaches always say they think

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Speaker 1: they signed a great recruiting class, but I think for

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Speaker 1: the most people that's just lip service. But when Matt

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Speaker 1: Campbell at Iowa State set, I think he means it,

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Speaker 1: despite signing relatively low ranking classes in the forty five

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Speaker 1: to sixty range. Well, my question is, do you believe

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Speaker 1: that high by the services. All Right, that was the

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Speaker 1: first part of Kyle's question. I'll hit this quick. I

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Speaker 1: great classes. The thing about Iowa State and the thing

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Speaker 1: about Matt Campbell is he has no illusion about where

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Speaker 1: pretend they're about to go heads up against Ohio State

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Speaker 1: or Oklahoma for kids, they don't even pursue them. They

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Speaker 1: know what kind of kid they can get in there.

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Speaker 1: But they also have ultra high confidence in their process.

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Speaker 1: They know, as a result, because of the kind of

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Speaker 1: athlete they're going to get, they're not going to start

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Speaker 1: a ton of true freshmen. But they're not going to

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Speaker 1: have to because they build and solidify their depth chart

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Speaker 1: to where they never take crushing blows. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: never open up a preview magazine and see that they

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Speaker 1: lost three guys off this position unit they will be

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Speaker 1: totally incapable of replacing them. No, they're confident and they

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Speaker 1: rarely replace outgoing starters with true freshmen. But what he

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Speaker 1: being Matt Campbell he is looking at He's saying, based

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Speaker 1: on what we want, we're getting the players that we require.

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Speaker 1: Chip Kelly kind of was the same way at Oregon

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Speaker 1: with the powerhouse programs for lead athletes. With nowadays, it's

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Speaker 1: kind of a different story, But back then, chip Kelly said,

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Speaker 1: we can either do one of two things. We can

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Speaker 1: either play the same style of football they do and

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Speaker 1: they're going to beat us with superior athletes. We can

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Speaker 1: try and recruit against them for the same athletes and

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Speaker 1: they'll beat us because they have a thirty year head

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Speaker 1: start and more resources than we do. Or we can

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Speaker 1: implement a system that makes for our purposes a three

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Speaker 1: star kid a five star kid. Since we're doing something,

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Speaker 1: then he fits us perfectly, whereas Southern CALU may look

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Speaker 1: at him and say, we don't even have room for him,

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Speaker 1: and they did that. Iowa States doing the same thing.

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Speaker 1: The only difference is they're not doing it with some

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Speaker 1: radical offense the likes of which no one has seen.

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Speaker 1: They're just doing it with Obo grease. There's no big

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Speaker 1: secret formula, kind of like we talked about the other day.

641
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: It's just stacking good days on top of each other

642
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: and adhering very rigidly to a process, not bending it

643
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: for anyone, Which leads me to the second part of

644
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 1: this question that Kyle asked. He said Matt Campbell also

645
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 1: essentially dismissed NIL at Big twelve media days. He said

646
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 1: it had very little to no change on their program.

647
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: Do you think this will come back to hurt him

648
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: in future recruiting classes and alter the trajectory of the program, don't, Kyle,

649
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 1: only because I don't think it factors into what they

650
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: I think he's being honest, is what I believe. I

651
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 1: think he is being honest and saying the kind of

652
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: kid that's going to be attracted to our program will

653
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 1: not be turned off because we don't have a ton

654
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: of NIL opportunity. I think that's what he's saying. He

655
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 1: is openly seeding the fact that the guys who can

656
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: expertly market themselves and leverage their huge social followings, and

657
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 1: they can get X number of dollars endorsing products per year,

658
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: and they can command all this attention on the NIL market.

659
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: He's telling you that's probably not an Iowa State guy anyways,

660
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 1: just not the kind of kid that we've recruited. And

661
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: that's fine because we can win with the kind of

662
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: kids we do recruit, and those kinds of kids probably

663
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: don't carry a lot of extra baggage, let's say, of

664
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 1: needing this and that. Regarding NIL. I don't know how

665
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: that's going to turn out for him. And the bigger

666
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: question would be, how's that turnout if he goes to

667
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 1: another program, if he were to go to Notre Dame

668
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: or Michigan or something like that. I wonder if he'd

669
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: had that stance. I wondered this about Brian Harson at Auburn.

670
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: I was talking to someone at Auburn the other day,

671
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: and you know, they kind of shrugged their shoulders. I said,

672
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: I have not heard a lot out of there about NIL.

673
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: Everyone else around you and the SEC is touting these

674
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: big NIL projects and these big partnerships, and Auburn's not

675
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: really doing any of that, And don't think it's any

676
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: coincidence that Brian Harson kind of comes from the same

677
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: school of philosophy. I doubt that he wants much to

678
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: do with it. Well, how are you going to survive

679
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 1: in the SEC and not have much to do with NIL?

680
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: That was my open ended question. It doesn't have to

681
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: be an indictment on the future of the program. I'm

682
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,959
Speaker 1: just very curious, like you are, Kyle, how that's going

683
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: to go. One more from Nolan here. That kind of

684
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: has to do with Media Day, he said. Chris Cleman,

685
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: who is the Kansas State head coach, was asked a

686
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: question at Media Days and his response was definitely one

687
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: geared towards any player listening. However, I wanted your take, which,

688
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: of course I will be happy to do when we

689
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: come back, so Nolan continues, he said. Chris Clemban said

690
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,239
Speaker 1: that Manhattan, Kansas, where Kansas State is located, was a

691
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 1: gold mine for NIL due to the value the community

692
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 1: places on k State athletics on a national scale. Would

693
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: you say that schools in towns like Manhattan or Lubbock

694
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: could have their athletes benefit more due to just how

695
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: important their program is as compared to a player that

696
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: goes to USC or Minnesota, which are in larger markets

697
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: and have more distractions from the university. So this could

698
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 1: go a couple of ways. It all depends on how

699
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,959
Speaker 1: woven into the fabric of the community or the market

700
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: the university is. So what I mean, because that sounds arbitrary,

701
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: what I mean is this, every market is unique. The Manhattan,

702
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: Kansas market and the Los Angeles, California market, they're very unique. Lubbock,

703
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: Texas and Dallas, Texas two different worlds in the same state.

704
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: But here's what's interesting. If I'm going to Texas Tech

705
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: or I'm going to USC, I have opportunity at both.

706
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: If you have ever run a brand or a company,

707
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 1: and there is a brand associated with a company, you've

708
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: got to get rub in your market. I mean, if

709
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: you're trying to sell it. Let's say you're a regional

710
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: or even a local brand, you got to have rub

711
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 1: in your market. So let's say you're a big car dealership.

712
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: You're the biggest car dealership in your market. Well, if

713
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: you're in Los Angeles, California, you could thrive without ever

714
00:33:56,120 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 1: touching USC Athletics, cause there are one trillion different media

715
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: opportunities and all kind of different ways to get your

716
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 1: name and your brand in front of the However, many

717
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: million people live in that market besides USC football. It

718
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: would help. USC football would help, but you don't have

719
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 1: to touch USC. You cannot thrive in Lubbock, Texas without

720
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 1: being associated with Texas Tech Athletics. You certainly cannot thrive

721
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: in Manhattan, Kansas without working in lockstep conjunction from a

722
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:28,240
Speaker 1: marketing aspect, with Kansas State University. So you think to yourself,

723
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: if I'm a prospective athlete, oh, there's a lot more

724
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 1: money for me to be made at USC than there

725
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: is Kansas State. That's true if everyone has their act

726
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: together at USC, if they've done the leg work or

727
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 1: you know, since the school's technically not supposed to be involved,

728
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 1: if someone representing you has done the leg work, and

729
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: if enough brands in and around southern California realize they

730
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 1: got to get their rub and it makes sense financially

731
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: for them to get their rub by associating with USC.

732
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 1: But there's a lot of guesswork in that and you

733
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: would have to execute that. Whereas if you're going to

734
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 1: Kansas State, there is no guesswork there, you can guarantee

735
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,879
Speaker 1: yourself there are going to be huge businesses with huge

736
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,760
Speaker 1: opportunity for you because they have to rub up against

737
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,280
Speaker 1: Kansas State football. Now, the question becomes how many kids

738
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: are really choosing between Kansas State and USC How many

739
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 1: kids are choosing between Texas Tech and Texas This is

740
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 1: just not a battle that goes on very often, and

741
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: so I don't What I'm saying is there's going to

742
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: be opportunity for high name athletes because they're choosing amongst

743
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: the best of the best in the biggest markets. But

744
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: also there are going to be opportunities for guys who

745
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 1: previously you never would have identified. I mean, a three

746
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 1: star kid who is choosing, let's say, between Texas Tech

747
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: and Kansas State could have a win win opportunity because

748
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: those markets have in them the built in advantage for

749
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: the athlete that local business has to invest in the

750
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: athletic program or they completely drown, because that is the

751
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: biggest billboard in the market is the athletic program. We

752
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 1: continue to roll merrily alone. Rock Go up Next. You

753
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: often talk about how Ryan Day and Nick Saban focus

754
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: on process and not external factors like disrespect to motivate

755
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: a team. Well, do you think Kirby Smart is in

756
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 1: the disrespect camp or the process camp. I don't have

757
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 1: a good read on it, but coach and player press

758
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:19,760
Speaker 1: conferences are something I don't spend much time watching. Well, Roco.

759
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 1: The first thing I wanted to do is I want

760
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 1: to clarify when I say they don't use disrespect this motivation.

761
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 1: I don't mean they don't ever mention disrespect. I don't

762
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 1: mean that they never put something on the wall in

763
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:33,879
Speaker 1: the locker room or the weight room. I don't mean

764
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: they never loop a previous year's game in front of

765
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: the weight racks. I know they do that sort of thing.

766
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: If someone in the opposing locker room says something on

767
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: a Tuesday that could catch your guy's ears, it's gonna

768
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: make their way to them via the strength and conditioning

769
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: coach or their position coach. I'm not saying they don't

770
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 1: do that. What I said, to be very clear is

771
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 1: they don't build their program's ethos and they don't build

772
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:02,760
Speaker 1: their motivation apparatus on a foundation of disrespect. In other words,

773
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 1: they do not build their program to where they rely

774
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: on something externally to motivate with them. They know that

775
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 1: the true long term sustainable fuel source is within You

776
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: don't count on other people to doubt you, because once

777
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 1: that runs out, your fuel source runs out. So that's

778
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 1: what I was saying. It's a more overarching sort of

779
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: macro instead of a micro. Now, as for your question there,

780
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 1: I don't think Kirby Smart has that fully figured out.

781
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: It's one of the many challenges for a younger head

782
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: coach is to figure that out. Kirby Smart himself, I

783
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: have no doubt, knows how to motivate. Kirby Smart's not

784
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 1: a guy when he wakes up in the morning that

785
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 1: has any trouble getting out of bed and needs to

786
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: look at the screen on his iPhone where he has

787
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: plastered a quote of someone disrespecting him, and that's what

788
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: motivates him. Kirby Smart himself doesn't need that. The challenge

789
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: is not in motivating yourself. The challenge is in finding

790
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 1: a way to put what's in you in your entire program.

791
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 1: And that's where I think Kirby Smart and a lot

792
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 1: of young guys, a lot of younger coaches probably struggle

793
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 1: because some of the older ones don't get it figured out.

794
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: You see, Kirby Smart try it. I mean when he

795
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: keeps talking about chopping wood, choping wood, chopping wood, well,

796
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: that is directly tied to the mentality. I'm talking about process, process, process.

797
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,760
Speaker 1: Independent of what's going on outside our bubble, we control

798
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 1: inside our bubble. And if we take care of what's

799
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: happening in here, then we're going to recruit athletes to

800
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: the level that won't matter who's out there. We're capable

801
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:24,399
Speaker 1: of beating anyone if we operate at maximum performance level. Well,

802
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: he hasn't gotten there yet. That's not a knock. That's realistic.

803
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: It's hard to be there when you're only five or

804
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 1: six years in as a head coach. And that's why

805
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,280
Speaker 1: I respect Ryan Day so much. I mean, that's why

806
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: I respect Dabbos so much. They did not. Lincoln Riley's

807
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: the same way, Kirby's the same way. These are not

808
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: guys that started at Tulsa. These are not guys that

809
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 1: started at Akron. I mean, these are guys that have

810
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: their first opportunity being on one of the biggest stages

811
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: in the sport. Are there are no shortcuts though to

812
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 1: learning these lessons. Tyler is last up. He said, how

813
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,760
Speaker 1: would you define success from my game Cocks under Shane

814
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: Beemer over the next five years. I don't think a

815
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: college Football Playoff appearance, or SEC championship or in the cards.

816
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 1: So I'm trying to determine what we should be aiming for. Success.

817
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: To me, for South Carolina would be getting the roster situated,

818
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: and that's in the immediacy. I would have a recruiting

819
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 1: plan in place where I would want to see a

820
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: recruiting plan in place that consistently allows us to pull

821
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 1: one or two upsets a year on the trail that

822
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: we shouldn't in conjunction with our overall level of recruiting

823
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: floating somewhere in the ten to twenty range, which makes

824
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 1: us competitive every year and puts us in any two

825
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: to three year period in position to build to a

826
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: team that's capable of beating Georgia, capable of beating Florida.

827
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,760
Speaker 1: This again, is in any given year. See, I wouldn't

828
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 1: sell yourself short, Tyler. I wouldn't say we can never

829
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 1: win the SEC. I wouldn't say that only because if

830
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 1: you would have said that about Clemson, you would have

831
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: been wrong. I'll grant you they're in a different conference,

832
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 1: but everything else resource wise geographically like, these places are

833
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 1: not all that different. I know you guys don't want

834
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: to hear that, but those places are not all that different.

835
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,760
Speaker 1: My point is if Clemson was able to rise South Carolina,

836
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,959
Speaker 1: they uretically is able to rise. It's a multi year deal, though,

837
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 1: and so the baby steps first are to be able

838
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:10,959
Speaker 1: to When someone in let's say, Tucson, Arizona, asks someone

839
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 1: else on a street corner, hey, what is South Carolina football?

840
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: They have an immediate answer. There's something identifiable, uniquely so

841
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 1: about South Carolina that college football fans know coast to coast.

842
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 1: Because if the fans know it, the players know it.

843
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:25,919
Speaker 1: If the players know it, they're more liable to commit there.

844
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: The next thing they need to do is they need

845
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 1: to have a solid nil plan that could be the

846
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,760
Speaker 1: tie breaker on some of these things. And the third

847
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 1: thing is Shane Biemer has to have been the right hire.

848
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 1: Now we don't know, obviously because he hasn't coached a game,

849
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: and we also can't debate it because it's already happened.

850
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: But if he is a guy the culture fit we

851
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: always talk about, if he's a guy that the community

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Speaker 1: and other coaches start buying into, then that means it

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Speaker 1: professionally some people would probably view South Carolina as. And

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, South Carolina feels the same as

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Speaker 1: North Carolina does. Right now, only recently have we started

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Speaker 1: location as it is under Mac Brown. Well, they don't

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Speaker 1: have the trademark or the patent on that approach. You

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Speaker 1: kind of just follow the North Carolina model. That's probably

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Speaker 1: the easier way to say it, Tyler, follow the North

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Speaker 1: Carolina model. But I wouldn't sell myself short. I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: talk about what is or isn't possible. I just focus

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Speaker 1: the cultures in place, which is going to be the

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Speaker 1: most important word around any program. But if Shane Bemer's

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Speaker 1: the man, if he ends up being the man there,

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Speaker 1: he's not going anywhere, first off, so you'll have him

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Speaker 1: locked down forever. And secondly, if he is the man,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the limit is for South Carolina.

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Speaker 1: It's not like they're coaching out in the middle of

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Speaker 1: the Atlantic Ocean. They're tied to this region just like

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Speaker 1: everyone else, and recruits know that they exist, they just

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Speaker 1: don't view them as a destination like they may in

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Speaker 1: the future if some of these things start falling into place.

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Speaker 1: All right, I have to get this sent off. We

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Speaker 1: in Georgia for another funeral, so I'll be headed back

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Speaker 1: Saturday night. So but we're still going to be own schedule,

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Speaker 1: kind words that some of you have sent me. Make

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Speaker 1: is because of you guys. Thank you so much. Until

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Speaker 1: next time for producer Jordan, I'm Josh Bade have a

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